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Open up to an arts or that's
something in the woods a narty would you

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about to see? Or that's something
in the woods. Don't walk in the

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pocket danger bid and the your month
set, don't go outside. There's something

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in the woods to night. I
hear him knocking, shaking bushes foot Prince

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holand on my lord, open up
to an arts something in Hey, everybody,

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this is less trying. Yes,
yes, I know aka Surviving Man.

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And you're listening to Brian and Sasquatch
Odyson. He guys, and welcome

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back to sasquatchis. Thank you so
much for cooking play. It is Wednesday.

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I hope you guys are having a
great week. We have an amazing

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guest lined up for you. Put
as always and want to start the show

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by inviting me. If you've had
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member there and help support the show. As I said, we've got a

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great guest lined up. I got
to sit down and talk to Amy from

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California and she had some really,
really interesting experiences while she was living out

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in the Argus Mountain Range with her
mother and they saw what they believed to

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be a sasquatchy. I'll let Amy
tell you all about that, but there

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was an interesting twist in her story. They actually got visited by the military

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after they had this experience, and
the police officers that responded out to the

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initial call actually casted the footprints.
Dad. It's definitely an interesting story where

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I think you guys are really going
to enjoy it. I am back from

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the Idaho Squatch Con. We were
out there in Idaho on Saturday, had

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a great event with Cliff Barrickman,
doctor Jeff Meldrum, Michael Freeman, and

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myself. We had a really really
good time. I had a great time

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getting to catch up with Cliff and
doctor Meldrum and Michael and hang out with

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those guys. It was a really, really awesome event and just a really

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I know you guys are here for
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She's ready to go. You gutta
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Hardy, folks. I want to
welcome my guest to the show.

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It is Amy from California. Welcome
to the show. Amy, Thank you,

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grateful to be here. I am
glad to have you. So.

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I know you're here to share your
multiple experiences over quite a few years.

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So why don't we just get right
into it. Why don't you take everybody

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back to where you were, what
you were doing, and what happened to

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you. Okay, let's see.
So this occurred in nineteen I would say

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nineteen seventy seven seventy eight. I
was living in the High Desert in California,

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in an area called the Panama Valley
next to death valley, and we're

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very remote. I'll set the scene
for you. We were mining camp,

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if you will. And I was
a kid and I got to live out

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there and have some really great experiences. We didn't have electricity at night,

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we had a generator. During the
day, we had kerosene lanterns. So

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the silence was incredible out there.
We got to know pretty much every sound

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and be able to identify what it
was. That's, oh, what is

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that, And oh, that's a
such and such, and that's a bird,

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and that's a coyote, and that's
a wolf, and that's a roadrunner.

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We learned all the calls of all
the animals out there. We also

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piped in our own water from a
spring probably about three miles up in the

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mountains, and there was a water
tower that we had closed to our settlement.

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It was about ten feet tall and
the water was always flowing and there

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was an overflow that flowed into a
bathtub, and so the animals from all

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around in the desert would come and
drink from this bathtub, and we would

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see migratory animals. Wolves were not
resident out there. There were wolves that

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would come through and various animals and
stop for drink and we'd see them from

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our house and it was always fun. We'd go and look at the footprints

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and see what they are. The
other thing was is we didn't have a

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garbage disposal. Fresh food, we're
throwing it away. We fed the coyotes

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every single night, and my aunt
and uncle had this beautiful house with a

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window, and we'd sit there at
the sunset and we'd watch the coyoats and

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in the spring they'd bring their babies
and stuff like that. We would put

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all of our trash, our regular
trash, in these oil barrels and we

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would burn it a couple times a
week, some of us. Sometimes we

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would put food and scraps and things
like that, and some of the animals

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would get into it. What we
started noticing periodically at night, very late

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at night, was this terrible smell, and it was it smelt just like

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a really dirty animal crossed with a
little bit of a homeless person. And

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you'd get a whiff of it and
you'd be like, oh, gosh,

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what is that coming from. And
we'd check our trash the next day and

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something had gone through the trash and
we're like, gosh, what's going on,

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And just these weird things would happen
like that, and we'd smell and

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then we started hearing these calls at
night and they would usually coincide with the

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trash digging and the smell, and
it sounded we could never identify it.

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It sounded like a little bit between
a monkey and an owl, and it

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was very interesting. It was like
a call a little bit of a screen,

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but not a screen. It was
more of a woo like that,

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and it was very strange. And
so we'd hear that, We're like,

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gosh, what is that? And
just go about your life. We also

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had a couple of dune buggies and
we would cruise around and go around various

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areas. And let me just add
that we were about thirty five hundred feet

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up in the mountains and the Argus
Mountain Range, and the top of the

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Argus Mountain Range is the China Lake
Naval Weapons Center, so it's part of

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their area. On the other side
of that is Ridgecrest in you curing me

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and China Lake Naval Weapons Center.
So we started seeing these piles of rocks,

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these stacks of rocks in random places, and fairly heavy rocks, and

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we knew everything out there. We
were the only people out there. We

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knew everything that went on. You
could see every single truck car that came

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through the valley. We knew who
was coming in and out, and so

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it was very interesting. There was
a pile of rocks that was set about

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a half a mile near our water
tower and it just appeared one day,

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and then there was another one that
appeared further north, the same kind of

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situation. It was probably five or
six rocks. And it's gonna just you

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have all these puzzling things that happened
and you're like, what is that?

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And of course I'm a kid,
I'm about ten years old, so investigating

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and learning, and I was highly
interested in geology, the land around us

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and all the animals and things like
that. It was always what is this

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puzzle? What is this smell?
What is this? And after one encounter,

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and I would say the encounter consisted
of the smell the calling sounds,

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we went up to the water tower
the next day and we saw some footprints

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that we couldn't identify, and they
were obviously very large and had been walked

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walked on by donkeys and kazero burrow
while burrows out there and other animals,

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but it was clearly a very large
human like foot footprint, several of them.

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And that's when we called the sheriff
department out and they came out and

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they took a look at everything and
they just said, uh, we don't

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know what that is, and they
went on their married little way. So.

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I don't know if you've ever been
out to the desert in California when

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there is no moon, but it
is one of the most spectacular skies you

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could ever imagine. The stars are
so bright and it's just incredible. And

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so because there are no lights out
there, it's so bright. And when

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we have a full moon, it's
literally something that you could go outside.

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You could go hiking. You could
probably read a book by it. It

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is so bright. And we would
go on these nighttime hikes. It was

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one of my favorite things to do
as a kid. One time we were

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hiking and I got this. I
just got see, I just got it.

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Just now, I got this feeling
up well, the goose bumps out

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the back of my neck for no
reason. Oh, I see, I'm

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getting them right now. It's crazy
just thinking about it. And we smelled

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the smell and we heard the wood
of the sound, and I'm like,

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I want to go. I'm done
with the hike. I'm ready, I'm

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done, I'm done. And I
had this fear in me and I really

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didn't know why. I didn't know. I didn't know about what saucequatch or

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bigfoot or whatever bigfoot at the time, I had no clue. I had

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no idea what it was. And
something threw a rock at us, and

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gosh, I'm getting chills all the
way down my legs just reliving this experience.

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And so we decided, Okay,
let's go. It's time to go.

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It's time to go back in the
house. And we hurried and went

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along. So that night was a
full moon, very bright, and I

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went to bed. At some point
during the night, my mom came into

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my room and she woke me up
and she put her finger over her Be

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quiet, don't say anything, be
very quiet. And she pulled me out

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of my bed and we looked out
the window and she pointed up to the

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water tower and there was a very
large dark image drinking from the bathtub,

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bent over, drinking and oh,
gosh, I'm getting jails. And it

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stood up, and when it stood
up, it was as high as the

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water tower and it but it stood
straight, so it was very straight standing.

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And then it looked our way,
and I again I was just I'm

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like, what is going on here? It looked our way and then it

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turned and it walked down the hill
and then down into the gully. And

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what struck me is that obviously it
walked. Whatever it was walked up right

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on two legs. It had fairly
long arms, but the gate was very

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strange. It was very very tracking. The mechanism of the way it walked

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didn't look like a man would be
lumbering or something like that. It just

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glided and swung its arms and walked
away. But it covered ground pretty quickly.

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Needless to say, as a ten
year old child, I was terrified.

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I was absolutely terrified. We weren't
threatened in any way and that experience,

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but it was very clear that what
I was seeing was something's out there.

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And then a little while later we
heard the call. So now at

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this point we knew there's something out
there, and then we called the sheriff

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out. I don't know why we
kept calling the sheriff, but it seemed

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like the retical thing to do at
the time, and they came out.

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They were very clear prints, and
they took plaster prints of this situation.

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There were quite a few, and
they followed the prints all the way down

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and there was some soft sand and
then some harder rock, and in this

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imuntinet disappeared into the gullies. So
they took a series of footprint plasters.

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A little while after that, we
had a visit from a couple of guys

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I think they were They might have
been from the military, I'm not sure.

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I think it was trying to like
naval weapons center. It was very

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interesting and they came out and they
asked us some questions, and you know,

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we showed them what we the situation, and just told them our story.

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And then that was it. I
lived there for about another year.

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I could never walk past a window
at night ever again, I was terrified

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when it got dark. We would
definitely smell the smell. I knew what

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it was. I stayed in the
house, never went on the moon Let

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hike again. And one night I
had some friends, some friends from town

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come out and do a camping trip. I don't know what it was.

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It's like church camping trip. And
they all came out and they brought there

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they brought their sleeping bags and they
wanted to sleep. There was this beautiful

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area near the water tower. They
all wanted to sleep in their tents out

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there, and I'm like now,
and I felt like, okay, there's

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a couple of kids in my tent. I'm probably okay. Smelled the smell

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laying in the tent, curd You
can hear the gravel crunching outside walking around.

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Definitely, No, it was not
burrows. Burrows snuffle and snort and

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make a lot of noise and grunt
and stuff like that. Coyotes you don't

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hear. And those are really the
larger animals that we would have out there.

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And we heard the crunching walking around, and I didn't say anything.

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I didn't. I was too terrified
to move. I told my mom the

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next day, and there are footprints
walking around. That was my only experience,

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and I felt as though I knew
when it was around. I knew

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when we were hiking. I knew
we would get rocks thrown at us out

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of nowhere when we'd go hiking,
like up into the more interior of the

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hills, the mountains, the Argus
Range. And it's interesting because I to

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this day I my friends know.
Some of my good friends know the story.

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And I still have trouble going camping
and being out at night in the

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woods and I'm like, oh my
god, big puts out here. Didn't

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they make fun of me? Of
course, there's a little bit of a

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joke around it, and it's spined, and but I haven't told my story

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to many people, and it's it's
really I hadn't. I didn't know anything

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about Bigfoot as a kid, didn't
have any clue. And then, of

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course, and we didn't have TV. I didn't see any the six million

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Dollar Man episodes of the whatever that
was the Sasquatch that they had. It

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was just a pure natural exparience of
living out in a remote area and trying

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to figure out a consistent number of
things that occurred over time, and putting

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it all together with the sighting that
one night in the confirmation, with the

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footprints and stuff like that, and
there were plaster molds taking of the footprints.

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And we didn't keep any I didn't, they didn't allow us to,

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and I didn't have We didn't think
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we should keep and publicizes. It
was just like, okay, whatever you

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guys, do your investigations and let
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I moved away and there were still
people that lived there, and I did

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hear that one of the guys that
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a shot, supposedly at one and
the next day his car was turned over.

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His car was literally turned over,
so it was really interesting. And

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he had a little cabin that was
further up in the canyon, so it

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was just him and he had to
call and have somebody come in and turn

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his jeep over because it was on
its side. Really interesting. So that's

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my story. That's really all I
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And my cousin came out. My
cousin came out when we were kids,

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and I think we shared all of
this experience with him and it got him

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really interesting interested in the whole big
footing experience and has turned a sort of

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a lifelong quest for him. But
for me, it's one of those things

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that it's I just don't really I'm
not that excited about. I mean,

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the experience. I know a lot
of the people are they'd love to see

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one, and they listened that I
want to stay as far away as I

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possibly can. And that's usually what
happens. It's either one of two things

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people haven't experience and it drives them
on to want to know more, or

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and to experience it again and all
these things. But that was one of

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the questions I was writing down to
ask you, and you just answered that.

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Obviously, the other side of that
coin is always it drives people to

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the complete opposite end. You had
your experience. It wasn't something that was

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pleasant for you, and you're okay
with that and you've moved on with the

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rest of your life. I want
to go back to some of the experiences

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that you were having, and I
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in retrospect, I don't know if
you ever have an opportunity to have a

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conversation with your mom about it after
this happened. Yeah, so let's talk

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a little bit about that when these
things were going on. I know it

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wasn't on your radar, But for
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and you're hearing monkey sounds, there's
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So what was going through her mind? Was Bigfoot on her radar or was

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she just as baffled as you were
about what was going on. We thought

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it was some sort of bird.
It was not on her radar at all.

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We thought it was some sort of
bird. Honestly, we just couldn't

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figure it out. I couldn't figure
out what we were hearing. And again,

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it was one of those culmination of
consistent occurrences, the rock throwing,

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the smells, the piles of rocks, the calls and things like that,

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and the footprints. My mom never
brought it up until we saw the footprints,

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and she was the one. I
think what we saw was a big

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foot, and I'm like, what's
a big foot? I don't know what

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that was, but it was not
something I ever want to see again,

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nor encounter. And it's weird.
It's because it's one of those six cents

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feeling when they're around. I knew
it. I didn't know what I knew,

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but I knew it was something.
And like I said, I can

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still feel that feeling of getting chills
up the back of my neck, down

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my arms, and it just I
didn't know what it was experiencing until I

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saw it, and then I started
learning about it. Stay tuned for more

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Sasquatch out to see right back after
these messages, Aaron, It's definitely something

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that we've talked about in our family
as I've grown up. And my brother

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was in college and he and his
friends from college would come up and they

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were like, we want to see
the big Foot, and I'm like,

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no, you don't, No,
you don't. On They're all gone,

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hoo, and we're gonna go.
Look, you're gonna go hiking. And

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they'd come out at midnight and at
moonlight, full moons, and they'd go

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hiking, and of course they would
nothing. We talked about it a lot.

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We talked about it a lot.
My mom said that she had seen

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it on a few additional occasions,
but and I always asked her, I'm

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like, why why did you wake
me up? Why did you show me

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that? Why did you put me
in that position? Because I was eleven

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years old actually when it did happen, nineteen seventy nine, and I'm like,

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it terrified me. I'm not sure
if that was something I should have

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seen. And she said, I
just I was so in awe that I

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wanted to share it with you.
It was what she said. I said,

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Okay, I was an adult.
I'm like, okay, I understand

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that, and it's are you seeing
this? Are you seeing what I'm seeing?

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Are you seeing I think it was
one of those things, come here

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and see this? What is that? Do you see that? What is

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that? And then when the thing
just started walking down the hill, it

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was just like, what is that? That is walking? That thing is

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huge and it's walking. It's not
like a just like it peeked from behind

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a tree and popped away. It
was a full blown you would see it

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walking. I'm also curious about the
police aspect of this, because at something

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I was a guest on the show
last night and the host is trying to

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work out there's a police officer up
in I believe it's New York, and

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he's big into the UAP phenomenon and
into crypto, bigfoot and that kind of

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thing. He's lobbying and trying to
put together some training for I was a

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police officer for sixteen years, so
I had no training obviously to deal with

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people calling and saying they saw UFOs
and or bigfoot. So I'm curious about

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what your perspective is on now looking
back from your ten eleven year old self

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until now looking back at the police
involvement. How do you feel looking back,

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knowing they came out and investigated this, they clearly saw the same footprints

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you did. You guys had told
him the same things that were going on,

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in conjunction with the physical evidence that
they found and actually took casts of.

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I know it's subjective and it's all
speculation, but looking back, do

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you think that they were aware that
you might have been dealing, or they

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might have been investigating a bigfoot or
do you think they just thought, maybe

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this is a person and we're going
to go through the motion to make these

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ladies feel better and then we're just
going to move on to the next call.

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I think, in hindsight, looking
at it from the adult active and

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what happened, I think they were
aware. I think they were interested,

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and I think that's why we had
a couple of military guys come out and

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ask some questions, because I think
that they escalated it. Somebody escalated it

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somewhere. Somebody has those plasters somewhere. Yeah, It's one of the things

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that I wrote down, is like
who has the casts? Because yeah,

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again, it's physical evidence of something
that went on, and I think there's

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so many stories out there, very
much like yours, where people have these

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experiences and maybe police investigators come out, maybe it's the Forestry Division, or

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sometimes it's military on military bases,
and for whatever reason, it just gets

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shuffled to the side, and the
evidence that's out there is no longer available,

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and there's really no way to go
back and track that. I'm sure

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there was, nothing like their databases
are now nine one one calls or forever

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more logged in perpetuity for most jurisdiction, if somebody called nine one one and

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said something in the city of Atlanta, where I was a cop, we

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could go back and go to dispatch
and pull the tapes and listen and yeah,

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that didn't happen in nineteen seventy nine, I can assure you. So

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that's another really big piece of the
puzzle for me in a lot of these

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cases where people have encounters similar to
yours and your mom's, when you do

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call somebody like, what do you
do? What do you do with that

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information? Somebody's something is outside of
our window. We're going to call the

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police, the police come out,
you know. And I never took a

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plaster cast of any footprint ever.
Now, I worked in the city of

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Atlanta in other metro areas, so
it wasn't out in the desert. But

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just then that in and of itself
lends me or I would tend to believe

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that, like you said, the
police probably had an interest in what was

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going on, and they knew that
the footprints were irregular at best and didn't

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belong to a human beings. And
the military aspect is always something that's fascinated

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me too. There's a lot of
conspiracy theorists out there in the big foot

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community who think the government knows about
Bigfoot, the military's involved, and it's

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a big conspiracy theory. I've never
really thought that's actually the case. I

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think it's more of a individualized situation, maybe like yours, where they got

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a call from a buddy that worked
at the police department that said, we

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took some really strange casts of these
weird footprints, and they were having these

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weird experiences, and maybe they knew
what was going on and just wanted to

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come out and investigate. I don't
necessarily think that's a big conspiracy theory or

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whatever with the military, but I
think it's very interesting that you got a

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visit from the military after you had
a big foot encounter. That's definitely some

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fodders for the folks that do believe
that the military may be involved in some

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sort of a cover up. Have
you given that any thought? Do you

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think it was maybe the same thing
with the police. The military were just

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interested in that, and you obviously
never had another visit or after that initial

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visit. Right now, no more
visits from the police or the military.

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My mom did share with me later
as an adull that she said that the

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guys that came out from the military, because again, we shared part of

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that mountain range there with the China
Lake Naval Weapons Center, and we would

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occasionally see lights and stuff up there, and they would run exercises and stuff

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like that with some of the guys, and she told me that they said

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that they have had some strange situations
basically is really all they said in that

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area, and I think they what
she had indicated is they were aware of

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something weird, something strange, something
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I don't know specifically what it was, but she said that one of

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them had shared with her that the
reason why they came out is because they're

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following up and somebody had some sort
of a strange experience themselves. But there

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so I don't know. I again, information is taken and they disappear and

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you don't hear anything about it.
Again, But somebody has those casts somewhere.

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Maybe they're sitting in Grandpa's garage out
there from the old sheriff who knows.

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Maybe that stuff kind of surfaces,
and then how do you say?

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Is it authentic? Is it real? Anybody could go out and create a

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plaster of something and go on,
I got a plaster of a big foot.

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So you had these experiences all these
years ago, and I know you've

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probably at least dabbled in maybe a
little bit of research over the years.

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I don't know. I don't want
to put words in your mouth. I

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don't ask this question of everybody,
but I'm curious, having that experience and

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being fairly close to this thing,
and having such an intense experience over such

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a prolonged amount of time. What
do you think these things are? Do

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you think there's some sort of relic
tominoid hominy end? Do you have any

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theories on what they might be?
I have no idea. I have no

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idea. I feel as though it
was highly intelligent. It was. It

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knew what it was doing. It
knew it wanted to keep us away by

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throwing rocks. It knew it needed
to be stealth, it knew that we

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could somehow be a threat, and
it was revengeful. So I think they're

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highly intelligent. Whatever they are,
I have no idea. I have no

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idea. But it's interesting because occasionally
I'll look at what somebody has as a

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video or something really far away.
I saw this one video was really interesting.

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It was very far away. Some
guy was in a meadow and there

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was a big foot running across the
meadow up the hill, and the way

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it was moving was exactly the same. It was exactly the same. It's

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not it is not a human move, it's not an ape move. It's

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its own movement. And it's very
quickly. It's very quick. It's very

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fast. The way it covers ground
is very fast. And I'm like,

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oh my god, that's the thing. That's the thing I saw. That

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is what I saw. And it
was again, it was the way it

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moved. And I've, of course
everybody's seen the Patterson film and I've watched

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that a couple of times, and
it moves like that right. It has

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a sort of cadence the way it
moves, and I don't know whether it's

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the hip structure or I have no
idea what makes it move the way it

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does. I don't know what it
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I know is it's intelligent and potentially
dangerous. It doesn't I don't think that

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it likes dogs. I've heard that
it does not like dogs. Maybe it's

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loud noises. I'm not sure.
We did not have a dog, but

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that's just one thing that I in
my research, I found that it just

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dogs irritated. I don't know.
I don't know what else to say on

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it, Brian, it's I will
say that I've heard other audio that people

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have shared, and there are the
calls are very similar to what I've heard

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what I heard as child, and
it's hard to identify. It's like there

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is a little bit of a slight
human ape aspect to it combine with almost

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a bird like scream, and it
just gives me. I'm when I hear

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it, it just gives me the
chills. Those were two of the things

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that I've had when people have a
siding that's fairly close up. Those are

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two of the questions I like to
ask, and especially when there's audio stuff

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involved, have you seen anything that
really looks like what you saw or that

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moved like you saw? And the
same thing with the vocalizations and clearly answered

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those two questions. I had a
guy here in North Carolina. I had

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him on the show recently. He
actually sent me a piece of audio a

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couple of days ago. He wanted
me to pass it on to Doug high

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Check for him. And it's a
sort of a whoop kind of howl sound.

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Yeah, and then there's an owl. It's clearly happens right after that

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sound. And then I've never heard
this before. I've actually heard people on

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the show that have talked about these
things imitating owls or attempting to imitate owls

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and other animals, and I always
roll my eyes and say, how do

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you know it's not an owl that
just sounds weird? How do you know

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it's another animal imitating? But this
piece of audio is pretty compelling because it

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sounds like what was making the noise
before the owl happened immediately after the owl

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stops, it's trying to imitate the
owl, and it's a weird sound.

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So yeah, I'll probably end up
playing on a future show for you guys

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and let you listen to it,
because it's definitely compelling to me because the

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audio is always something that people experience. I've experienced that here on our property.

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We've heard some really weird things and
the Ohio howl type stuff. So

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the audio is one of the things
that's the most prevalent out there. And

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then obviously people who are I would
say lucky enough or fortunate enough to have

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an actual side one of these things
that can talk about the movement and other

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things. It's really fascinating, and
I really I know it's not an easy

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thing. I could see it when
you were talking and reliving your experience that

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it wasn't an easy thing to talk
about. So I appreciate you trusting me

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enough to come on and share your
story with all of us. It's a

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really for us that are into these
types of encounters. It's a really interesting

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and fascinating encounter. So I really
appreciate you coming on and sharing it.

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You're welcome and thanks for having me, Brian. I really appreciate it,

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And yeah, it's interesting. It's
one of those things that I stay on

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the periphery of it. I don't
dive in, I don't follow. I'm

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not like going to sasquatch shows and
stuff like that and stay on the periphery

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of it. I just know somebody's
got a video. Let me see what

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it is, and is that what
I saw? Is I don't know,

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that's not it? Or yep,
oh boy, wow. It's really interesting.

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It's interesting to see those commonalities because
for me, it's yeah, I

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was a kid, but it's been
something that I lived with. It wasn't

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one time thing, and it wasn't
five seconds of something that I could question.

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It was over time and all the
different things and before and after and

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the validating and the footprints and stuff
like that, and just the consistent experiences

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of knowing if it's around, and
it's around rocks at us, it wants

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us to leave. That kind of
stuff. So it's it's a love hate

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thing because it really terrified me as
a kid for a while. And again,

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my friend's big fun of me when
we go gamping and they're like,

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mit, seems a little big footie
out here. Weren't like, yeah,

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it does, don't be surprised,
And they're like, oh, you're the

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big foot whisperer. So we're all
okay now, thanks for having me on,

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Brian. They say you don't gotta
go home, but you can say

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were all out that Jesus chry this
joy, that chime, everything came right

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back. Ride baby, my joy
for me, Joy stay right now,

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came it right away. Ssssssst about
bout bolt for call tell you Umber bouts

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gas and less and uses us and
use us and uses