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California and she had some really, really interesting experiences while she was living out
in the Argus Mountain Range with her mother and they saw what they believed to
be a sasquatchy. I'll let Amy tell you all about that, but there
was an interesting twist in her story. They actually got visited by the military
after they had this experience, and the police officers that responded out to the
initial call actually casted the footprints. Dad. It's definitely an interesting story where
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Hardy, folks. I want to welcome my guest to the show.
It is Amy from California. Welcome to the show. Amy, Thank you,
grateful to be here. I am glad to have you. So.
I know you're here to share your multiple experiences over quite a few years.
So why don't we just get right into it. Why don't you take everybody
back to where you were, what you were doing, and what happened to
you. Okay, let's see. So this occurred in nineteen I would say
nineteen seventy seven seventy eight. I was living in the High Desert in California,
in an area called the Panama Valley next to death valley, and we're
very remote. I'll set the scene for you. We were mining camp,
if you will. And I was a kid and I got to live out
there and have some really great experiences. We didn't have electricity at night,
we had a generator. During the day, we had kerosene lanterns. So
the silence was incredible out there. We got to know pretty much every sound
and be able to identify what it was. That's, oh, what is
that, And oh, that's a such and such, and that's a bird,
and that's a coyote, and that's a wolf, and that's a roadrunner.
We learned all the calls of all the animals out there. We also
piped in our own water from a spring probably about three miles up in the
mountains, and there was a water tower that we had closed to our settlement.
It was about ten feet tall and the water was always flowing and there
was an overflow that flowed into a bathtub, and so the animals from all
around in the desert would come and drink from this bathtub, and we would
see migratory animals. Wolves were not resident out there. There were wolves that
would come through and various animals and stop for drink and we'd see them from
our house and it was always fun. We'd go and look at the footprints
and see what they are. The other thing was is we didn't have a
garbage disposal. Fresh food, we're throwing it away. We fed the coyotes
every single night, and my aunt and uncle had this beautiful house with a
window, and we'd sit there at the sunset and we'd watch the coyoats and
in the spring they'd bring their babies and stuff like that. We would put
all of our trash, our regular trash, in these oil barrels and we
would burn it a couple times a week, some of us. Sometimes we
would put food and scraps and things like that, and some of the animals
would get into it. What we started noticing periodically at night, very late
at night, was this terrible smell, and it was it smelt just like
a really dirty animal crossed with a little bit of a homeless person. And
you'd get a whiff of it and you'd be like, oh, gosh,
what is that coming from. And we'd check our trash the next day and
something had gone through the trash and we're like, gosh, what's going on,
And just these weird things would happen like that, and we'd smell and
then we started hearing these calls at night and they would usually coincide with the
trash digging and the smell, and it sounded we could never identify it.
It sounded like a little bit between a monkey and an owl, and it
was very interesting. It was like a call a little bit of a screen,
but not a screen. It was more of a woo like that,
and it was very strange. And so we'd hear that, We're like,
gosh, what is that? And just go about your life. We also
had a couple of dune buggies and we would cruise around and go around various
areas. And let me just add that we were about thirty five hundred feet
up in the mountains and the Argus Mountain Range, and the top of the
Argus Mountain Range is the China Lake Naval Weapons Center, so it's part of
their area. On the other side of that is Ridgecrest in you curing me
and China Lake Naval Weapons Center. So we started seeing these piles of rocks,
these stacks of rocks in random places, and fairly heavy rocks, and
we knew everything out there. We were the only people out there. We
knew everything that went on. You could see every single truck car that came
through the valley. We knew who was coming in and out, and so
it was very interesting. There was a pile of rocks that was set about
a half a mile near our water tower and it just appeared one day,
and then there was another one that appeared further north, the same kind of
situation. It was probably five or six rocks. And it's gonna just you
have all these puzzling things that happened and you're like, what is that?
And of course I'm a kid, I'm about ten years old, so investigating
and learning, and I was highly interested in geology, the land around us
and all the animals and things like that. It was always what is this
puzzle? What is this smell? What is this? And after one encounter,
and I would say the encounter consisted of the smell the calling sounds,
we went up to the water tower the next day and we saw some footprints
that we couldn't identify, and they were obviously very large and had been walked
walked on by donkeys and kazero burrow while burrows out there and other animals,
but it was clearly a very large human like foot footprint, several of them.
And that's when we called the sheriff department out and they came out and
they took a look at everything and they just said, uh, we don't
know what that is, and they went on their married little way. So.
I don't know if you've ever been out to the desert in California when
there is no moon, but it is one of the most spectacular skies you
could ever imagine. The stars are so bright and it's just incredible. And
so because there are no lights out there, it's so bright. And when
we have a full moon, it's literally something that you could go outside.
You could go hiking. You could probably read a book by it. It
is so bright. And we would go on these nighttime hikes. It was
one of my favorite things to do as a kid. One time we were
hiking and I got this. I just got see, I just got it.
Just now, I got this feeling up well, the goose bumps out
the back of my neck for no reason. Oh, I see, I'm
getting them right now. It's crazy just thinking about it. And we smelled
the smell and we heard the wood of the sound, and I'm like,
I want to go. I'm done with the hike. I'm ready, I'm
done, I'm done. And I had this fear in me and I really
didn't know why. I didn't know. I didn't know about what saucequatch or
bigfoot or whatever bigfoot at the time, I had no clue. I had
no idea what it was. And something threw a rock at us, and
gosh, I'm getting chills all the way down my legs just reliving this experience.
And so we decided, Okay, let's go. It's time to go.
It's time to go back in the house. And we hurried and went
along. So that night was a full moon, very bright, and I
went to bed. At some point during the night, my mom came into
my room and she woke me up and she put her finger over her Be
quiet, don't say anything, be very quiet. And she pulled me out
of my bed and we looked out the window and she pointed up to the
water tower and there was a very large dark image drinking from the bathtub,
bent over, drinking and oh, gosh, I'm getting jails. And it
stood up, and when it stood up, it was as high as the
water tower and it but it stood straight, so it was very straight standing.
And then it looked our way, and I again I was just I'm
like, what is going on here? It looked our way and then it
turned and it walked down the hill and then down into the gully. And
what struck me is that obviously it walked. Whatever it was walked up right
on two legs. It had fairly long arms, but the gate was very
strange. It was very very tracking. The mechanism of the way it walked
didn't look like a man would be lumbering or something like that. It just
glided and swung its arms and walked away. But it covered ground pretty quickly.
Needless to say, as a ten year old child, I was terrified.
I was absolutely terrified. We weren't threatened in any way and that experience,
but it was very clear that what I was seeing was something's out there.
And then a little while later we heard the call. So now at
this point we knew there's something out there, and then we called the sheriff
out. I don't know why we kept calling the sheriff, but it seemed
like the retical thing to do at the time, and they came out.
They were very clear prints, and they took plaster prints of this situation.
There were quite a few, and they followed the prints all the way down
and there was some soft sand and then some harder rock, and in this
imuntinet disappeared into the gullies. So they took a series of footprint plasters.
A little while after that, we had a visit from a couple of guys
I think they were They might have been from the military, I'm not sure.
I think it was trying to like naval weapons center. It was very
interesting and they came out and they asked us some questions, and you know,
we showed them what we the situation, and just told them our story.
And then that was it. I lived there for about another year.
I could never walk past a window at night ever again, I was terrified
when it got dark. We would definitely smell the smell. I knew what
it was. I stayed in the house, never went on the moon Let
hike again. And one night I had some friends, some friends from town
come out and do a camping trip. I don't know what it was.
It's like church camping trip. And they all came out and they brought there
they brought their sleeping bags and they wanted to sleep. There was this beautiful
area near the water tower. They all wanted to sleep in their tents out
there, and I'm like now, and I felt like, okay, there's
a couple of kids in my tent. I'm probably okay. Smelled the smell
laying in the tent, curd You can hear the gravel crunching outside walking around.
Definitely, No, it was not burrows. Burrows snuffle and snort and
make a lot of noise and grunt and stuff like that. Coyotes you don't
hear. And those are really the larger animals that we would have out there.
And we heard the crunching walking around, and I didn't say anything.
I didn't. I was too terrified to move. I told my mom the
next day, and there are footprints walking around. That was my only experience,
and I felt as though I knew when it was around. I knew
when we were hiking. I knew we would get rocks thrown at us out
of nowhere when we'd go hiking, like up into the more interior of the
hills, the mountains, the Argus Range. And it's interesting because I to
this day I my friends know. Some of my good friends know the story.
And I still have trouble going camping and being out at night in the
woods and I'm like, oh my god, big puts out here. Didn't
they make fun of me? Of course, there's a little bit of a
joke around it, and it's spined, and but I haven't told my story
to many people, and it's it's really I hadn't. I didn't know anything
about Bigfoot as a kid, didn't have any clue. And then, of
course, and we didn't have TV. I didn't see any the six million
Dollar Man episodes of the whatever that was the Sasquatch that they had. It
was just a pure natural exparience of living out in a remote area and trying
to figure out a consistent number of things that occurred over time, and putting
it all together with the sighting that one night in the confirmation, with the
footprints and stuff like that, and there were plaster molds taking of the footprints.
And we didn't keep any I didn't, they didn't allow us to,
and I didn't have We didn't think to say, oh, this is something
we should keep and publicizes. It was just like, okay, whatever you
guys, do your investigations and let us know what heppen. I did hear
I moved away and there were still people that lived there, and I did
hear that one of the guys that was supposedly a security guard there had taken
a shot, supposedly at one and the next day his car was turned over.
His car was literally turned over, so it was really interesting. And
he had a little cabin that was further up in the canyon, so it
was just him and he had to call and have somebody come in and turn
his jeep over because it was on its side. Really interesting. So that's
my story. That's really all I had to share about my personal experience.
And my cousin came out. My cousin came out when we were kids,
and I think we shared all of this experience with him and it got him
really interesting interested in the whole big footing experience and has turned a sort of
a lifelong quest for him. But for me, it's one of those things
that it's I just don't really I'm not that excited about. I mean,
the experience. I know a lot of the people are they'd love to see
one, and they listened that I want to stay as far away as I
possibly can. And that's usually what happens. It's either one of two things
people haven't experience and it drives them on to want to know more, or
and to experience it again and all these things. But that was one of
the questions I was writing down to ask you, and you just answered that.
Obviously, the other side of that coin is always it drives people to
the complete opposite end. You had your experience. It wasn't something that was
pleasant for you, and you're okay with that and you've moved on with the
rest of your life. I want to go back to some of the experiences
that you were having, and I know you were ten years old, but
in retrospect, I don't know if you ever have an opportunity to have a
conversation with your mom about it after this happened. Yeah, so let's talk
a little bit about that when these things were going on. I know it
wasn't on your radar, But for your mom, when these things started happening
and you're hearing monkey sounds, there's no monkeys in the desert, right,
So what was going through her mind? Was Bigfoot on her radar or was
she just as baffled as you were about what was going on. We thought
it was some sort of bird. It was not on her radar at all.
We thought it was some sort of bird. Honestly, we just couldn't
figure it out. I couldn't figure out what we were hearing. And again,
it was one of those culmination of consistent occurrences, the rock throwing,
the smells, the piles of rocks, the calls and things like that,
and the footprints. My mom never brought it up until we saw the footprints,
and she was the one. I think what we saw was a big
foot, and I'm like, what's a big foot? I don't know what
that was, but it was not something I ever want to see again,
nor encounter. And it's weird. It's because it's one of those six cents
feeling when they're around. I knew it. I didn't know what I knew,
but I knew it was something. And like I said, I can
still feel that feeling of getting chills up the back of my neck, down
my arms, and it just I didn't know what it was experiencing until I
saw it, and then I started learning about it. Stay tuned for more
Sasquatch out to see right back after these messages, Aaron, It's definitely something
that we've talked about in our family as I've grown up. And my brother
was in college and he and his friends from college would come up and they
were like, we want to see the big Foot, and I'm like,
no, you don't, No, you don't. On They're all gone,
hoo, and we're gonna go. Look, you're gonna go hiking. And
they'd come out at midnight and at moonlight, full moons, and they'd go
hiking, and of course they would nothing. We talked about it a lot.
We talked about it a lot. My mom said that she had seen
it on a few additional occasions, but and I always asked her, I'm
like, why why did you wake me up? Why did you show me
that? Why did you put me in that position? Because I was eleven
years old actually when it did happen, nineteen seventy nine, and I'm like,
it terrified me. I'm not sure if that was something I should have
seen. And she said, I just I was so in awe that I
wanted to share it with you. It was what she said. I said,
Okay, I was an adult. I'm like, okay, I understand
that, and it's are you seeing this? Are you seeing what I'm seeing?
Are you seeing I think it was one of those things, come here
and see this? What is that? Do you see that? What is
that? And then when the thing just started walking down the hill, it
was just like, what is that? That is walking? That thing is
huge and it's walking. It's not like a just like it peeked from behind
a tree and popped away. It was a full blown you would see it
walking. I'm also curious about the police aspect of this, because at something
I was a guest on the show last night and the host is trying to
work out there's a police officer up in I believe it's New York, and
he's big into the UAP phenomenon and into crypto, bigfoot and that kind of
thing. He's lobbying and trying to put together some training for I was a
police officer for sixteen years, so I had no training obviously to deal with
people calling and saying they saw UFOs and or bigfoot. So I'm curious about
what your perspective is on now looking back from your ten eleven year old self
until now looking back at the police involvement. How do you feel looking back,
knowing they came out and investigated this, they clearly saw the same footprints
you did. You guys had told him the same things that were going on,
in conjunction with the physical evidence that they found and actually took casts of.
I know it's subjective and it's all speculation, but looking back, do
you think that they were aware that you might have been dealing, or they
might have been investigating a bigfoot or do you think they just thought, maybe
this is a person and we're going to go through the motion to make these
ladies feel better and then we're just going to move on to the next call.
I think, in hindsight, looking at it from the adult active and
what happened, I think they were aware. I think they were interested,
and I think that's why we had a couple of military guys come out and
ask some questions, because I think that they escalated it. Somebody escalated it
somewhere. Somebody has those plasters somewhere. Yeah, It's one of the things
that I wrote down, is like who has the casts? Because yeah,
again, it's physical evidence of something that went on, and I think there's
so many stories out there, very much like yours, where people have these
experiences and maybe police investigators come out, maybe it's the Forestry Division, or
sometimes it's military on military bases, and for whatever reason, it just gets
shuffled to the side, and the evidence that's out there is no longer available,
and there's really no way to go back and track that. I'm sure
there was, nothing like their databases are now nine one one calls or forever
more logged in perpetuity for most jurisdiction, if somebody called nine one one and
said something in the city of Atlanta, where I was a cop, we
could go back and go to dispatch and pull the tapes and listen and yeah,
that didn't happen in nineteen seventy nine, I can assure you. So
that's another really big piece of the puzzle for me in a lot of these
cases where people have encounters similar to yours and your mom's, when you do
call somebody like, what do you do? What do you do with that
information? Somebody's something is outside of our window. We're going to call the
police, the police come out, you know. And I never took a
plaster cast of any footprint ever. Now, I worked in the city of
Atlanta in other metro areas, so it wasn't out in the desert. But
just then that in and of itself lends me or I would tend to believe
that, like you said, the police probably had an interest in what was
going on, and they knew that the footprints were irregular at best and didn't
belong to a human beings. And the military aspect is always something that's fascinated
me too. There's a lot of conspiracy theorists out there in the big foot
community who think the government knows about Bigfoot, the military's involved, and it's
a big conspiracy theory. I've never really thought that's actually the case. I
think it's more of a individualized situation, maybe like yours, where they got
a call from a buddy that worked at the police department that said, we
took some really strange casts of these weird footprints, and they were having these
weird experiences, and maybe they knew what was going on and just wanted to
come out and investigate. I don't necessarily think that's a big conspiracy theory or
whatever with the military, but I think it's very interesting that you got a
visit from the military after you had a big foot encounter. That's definitely some
fodders for the folks that do believe that the military may be involved in some
sort of a cover up. Have you given that any thought? Do you
think it was maybe the same thing with the police. The military were just
interested in that, and you obviously never had another visit or after that initial
visit. Right now, no more visits from the police or the military.
My mom did share with me later as an adull that she said that the
guys that came out from the military, because again, we shared part of
that mountain range there with the China Lake Naval Weapons Center, and we would
occasionally see lights and stuff up there, and they would run exercises and stuff
like that with some of the guys, and she told me that they said
that they have had some strange situations basically is really all they said in that
area, and I think they what she had indicated is they were aware of
something weird, something strange, something not typical in terms of wildlife or situations.
I don't know specifically what it was, but she said that one of
them had shared with her that the reason why they came out is because they're
following up and somebody had some sort of a strange experience themselves. But there
so I don't know. I again, information is taken and they disappear and
you don't hear anything about it. Again, But somebody has those casts somewhere.
Maybe they're sitting in Grandpa's garage out there from the old sheriff who knows.
Maybe that stuff kind of surfaces, and then how do you say?
Is it authentic? Is it real? Anybody could go out and create a
plaster of something and go on, I got a plaster of a big foot.
So you had these experiences all these years ago, and I know you've
probably at least dabbled in maybe a little bit of research over the years.
I don't know. I don't want to put words in your mouth. I
don't ask this question of everybody, but I'm curious, having that experience and
being fairly close to this thing, and having such an intense experience over such
a prolonged amount of time. What do you think these things are? Do
you think there's some sort of relic tominoid hominy end? Do you have any
theories on what they might be? I have no idea. I have no
idea. I feel as though it was highly intelligent. It was. It
knew what it was doing. It knew it wanted to keep us away by
throwing rocks. It knew it needed to be stealth, it knew that we
could somehow be a threat, and it was revengeful. So I think they're
highly intelligent. Whatever they are, I have no idea. I have no
idea. But it's interesting because occasionally I'll look at what somebody has as a
video or something really far away. I saw this one video was really interesting.
It was very far away. Some guy was in a meadow and there
was a big foot running across the meadow up the hill, and the way
it was moving was exactly the same. It was exactly the same. It's
not it is not a human move, it's not an ape move. It's
its own movement. And it's very quickly. It's very quick. It's very
fast. The way it covers ground is very fast. And I'm like,
oh my god, that's the thing. That's the thing I saw. That
is what I saw. And it was again, it was the way it
moved. And I've, of course everybody's seen the Patterson film and I've watched
that a couple of times, and it moves like that right. It has
a sort of cadence the way it moves, and I don't know whether it's
the hip structure or I have no idea what makes it move the way it
does. I don't know what it is. I have no speculation. All
I know is it's intelligent and potentially dangerous. It doesn't I don't think that
it likes dogs. I've heard that it does not like dogs. Maybe it's
loud noises. I'm not sure. We did not have a dog, but
that's just one thing that I in my research, I found that it just
dogs irritated. I don't know. I don't know what else to say on
it, Brian, it's I will say that I've heard other audio that people
have shared, and there are the calls are very similar to what I've heard
what I heard as child, and it's hard to identify. It's like there
is a little bit of a slight human ape aspect to it combine with almost
a bird like scream, and it just gives me. I'm when I hear
it, it just gives me the chills. Those were two of the things
that I've had when people have a siding that's fairly close up. Those are
two of the questions I like to ask, and especially when there's audio stuff
involved, have you seen anything that really looks like what you saw or that
moved like you saw? And the same thing with the vocalizations and clearly answered
those two questions. I had a guy here in North Carolina. I had
him on the show recently. He actually sent me a piece of audio a
couple of days ago. He wanted me to pass it on to Doug high
Check for him. And it's a sort of a whoop kind of howl sound.
Yeah, and then there's an owl. It's clearly happens right after that
sound. And then I've never heard this before. I've actually heard people on
the show that have talked about these things imitating owls or attempting to imitate owls
and other animals, and I always roll my eyes and say, how do
you know it's not an owl that just sounds weird? How do you know
it's another animal imitating? But this piece of audio is pretty compelling because it
sounds like what was making the noise before the owl happened immediately after the owl
stops, it's trying to imitate the owl, and it's a weird sound.
So yeah, I'll probably end up playing on a future show for you guys
and let you listen to it, because it's definitely compelling to me because the
audio is always something that people experience. I've experienced that here on our property.
We've heard some really weird things and the Ohio howl type stuff. So
the audio is one of the things that's the most prevalent out there. And
then obviously people who are I would say lucky enough or fortunate enough to have
an actual side one of these things that can talk about the movement and other
things. It's really fascinating, and I really I know it's not an easy
thing. I could see it when you were talking and reliving your experience that
it wasn't an easy thing to talk about. So I appreciate you trusting me
enough to come on and share your story with all of us. It's a
really for us that are into these types of encounters. It's a really interesting
and fascinating encounter. So I really appreciate you coming on and sharing it.
You're welcome and thanks for having me, Brian. I really appreciate it,
And yeah, it's interesting. It's one of those things that I stay on
the periphery of it. I don't dive in, I don't follow. I'm
not like going to sasquatch shows and stuff like that and stay on the periphery
of it. I just know somebody's got a video. Let me see what
it is, and is that what I saw? Is I don't know,
that's not it? Or yep, oh boy, wow. It's really interesting.
It's interesting to see those commonalities because for me, it's yeah, I
was a kid, but it's been something that I lived with. It wasn't
one time thing, and it wasn't five seconds of something that I could question.
It was over time and all the different things and before and after and
the validating and the footprints and stuff like that, and just the consistent experiences
of knowing if it's around, and it's around rocks at us, it wants
us to leave. That kind of stuff. So it's it's a love hate
thing because it really terrified me as a kid for a while. And again,
my friend's big fun of me when we go gamping and they're like,
mit, seems a little big footie out here. Weren't like, yeah,
it does, don't be surprised, And they're like, oh, you're the
big foot whisperer. So we're all okay now, thanks for having me on,
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