WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:06.960 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. Sound Fox 2 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:13.800 Sports fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat 3 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:18.640 z R TWUSA at iHeartRadio Station. Good afternoon, Welcome guy in the ball. 4 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:21.440 You know, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host, Jay Gonzalez. 5 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:26.719 Steve is going to be out today a little unexpectedly and we'll we'll talk 6 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:30.440 about that at another time. But I have my friend Juan here today, 7 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:34.399 so one's hanging out with me and we've got a nice Friday, a nice 8 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.920 Friday show when we're going to just kind of talk about all the stuff that's 9 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:40.240 going on. So Wan, thanks for being here today, Bud for having 10 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:46.200 me. Appreciate it. So you know, we've got it's just a mash 11 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:50.000 of stuff going on right. The US Open is on. There's a young 12 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:54.000 guy, Ludwig Oberg who's winning, is twenty four years old. He's beaten 13 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.399 an incredible field that you always get for the US Open. Tiger Woods is 14 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:02.920 scrambling to try and make the Scottie Scheffer. Mike missed the cut, so 15 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.120 a lot, a lot still left to happen in the US open that's coming 16 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:11.079 to the last few holes. On on NBC, there's some news regarding softball, 17 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:18.840 volleyball. You said softball and volleyball. There's just a whole bunch of 18 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:22.079 stuff. But and then today on the show, we've got Aeron Torres, 19 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:26.599 who's covers a college sports of all types right now, talking a lot of 20 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.599 football. Aaron is a friend of the show. He's got a show on 21 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:38.640 Fox Sports. He's also got his own podcast and does a podcast for Twitter 22 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:42.439 feeds for different areas of the country. He's got one in Arizona. So 23 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.959 Aaron, you know, talks a lot about Arizona, loves talking Arizona basketball. 24 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.400 So we'll see what's on his mind. A number of things going on. 25 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:52.519 He's tested some stuff about this whole deal with the Big Twelve, maybe 26 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:57.000 selling the naming rights to the conference, maybe trying to get some public equity 27 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:00.200 investment, just trying to find ways to raise money. We'll get into some 28 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:05.040 of those issues with Aaron because he's stays on top of all that stuff. 29 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:09.000 He's the guy that I mean, we're talking I think it was November maybe 30 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:15.039 December who said I was listening to his podcast and he back then he said 31 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.840 that John Calipari would not be the head coach at Kentucky this coming year, 32 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.840 And at that time there was no reason to think that other than maybe the 33 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.800 fans were getting sick of him. And then he had another bad NC double 34 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:30.759 eight thing. He's gone, he's at Arkansas. So he correctly predicted that, 35 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:32.319 and that was something that I don't think a lot of people were predicting 36 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:36.159 at that time. So again, Aaron stays on top of those things. 37 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:39.560 So we'll have him on the show at about three twenty and then at four 38 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:45.520 to twenty doctor Porter. We call him Doc Porter. He's doctor Donald Porter. 39 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.680 He's the team physician at Arizona for a lot of years, recently retired 40 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.800 and yesterday was named to the Arizona Athletics Hall of Fame. Good friend, 41 00:02:54.080 --> 00:03:00.319 he's a spectacular guy. I'm sure he's seen a lot in all that time 42 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:00.840 he was at the u of A. I don't know how much of it 43 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:05.039 he can talk about, right, because he is a doctor and you can't 44 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.080 talk about all this stuff. But I'm sure he's had some experiences that are 45 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:12.080 maybe a little um it's things that we don't know right, or things that 46 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.639 we don't know go on and things that they have to deal with. When 47 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.879 we're talking talking about all the medical issues that the athletes have, whether it's 48 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:23.280 you know, a football player or a volleyball player or an or gymnast or 49 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.960 whatever, a lot of things that go on. So we'll just kind of 50 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.759 kick that around and talk about his career at Arizona. So he's again a 51 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:35.639 good friend. I've known him for a long time, really good guy, 52 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:39.360 one of the nicest people ever at McHale, and somebody who they obviously think 53 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:43.080 a lot of because they put him in the Hall of Fames. We'll we'll 54 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.280 have Doc Porter. So anyways, so he'll be on at about four to 55 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:50.599 twenty. What do you think you you asked me if I thought the Celtics 56 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:52.639 would it would finish to sweep tonight. I don't know. What do you 57 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:57.960 think I think they do? You think they do? I think just just 58 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:01.159 from the last game, ye know, Luca felling out with four minus left 59 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:05.560 when it's a three point game, I think that's really demoralizing for a team 60 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:10.919 to be that close yet you're still down three to zero. And I think 61 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:14.960 the Celtics just have to drive. They have the focus and the composure even 62 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.199 just the experience. Well, they certainly have the better team, right showing. 63 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:21.800 Yeah, and it's showing. We talked about that yesterday and you know, 64 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:26.720 Ryan Ryan our Thursday intern. Ryan is a huge Mavericks fan. I 65 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:30.160 don't know if you and him talk, but you know, he just basically 66 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:31.759 said, you know, he admitted, he said they just got better players 67 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.000 across the board, you know, I mean, you know, yeah, 68 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:39.600 Luka, Doncicks a really good player, u n Kyrie Irving's a really good 69 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.480 player. But you match them up against the Celtics guys, and Celtics are 70 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.920 just a better team. And they got five guys on the court that are 71 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.680 better than the year five guys. So I guess I'm a little surprised though 72 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:53.319 that it is three nothing. I really thought that the Mavericks would win the 73 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.639 last game. Yeah, they're really dominant at home, you know. Yeah, 74 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.439 just the last couple of years when the Sons have faced on the you 75 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.040 don't see him lose at home. So I know, I know they were 76 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:05.120 up for a little bit in that first half, but I thought they were 77 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:11.040 gonna take him three in favorable fashion, right, And I've never thought that 78 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:15.480 the Mavericks would win the series. I was hoping it would go like six 79 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:17.800 games. I hate I hate sweeps. And you know, we're looking at 80 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.319 one in the in the NBA, we're looking at one in the Stanley Cup 81 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:27.199 Final. I mean, you hate for the sports to end early because you 82 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:30.199 know the NBA would gone one another couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah, 83 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:32.959 you know, so that's too bad. But I don't know if I hope 84 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:34.959 for them to win at this point. If it's three nothing, it's like, 85 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.199 we know what's going to happen, just end it. Yeah, that's 86 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.480 kind of how I personally want to see Al Horford, a guy that's been 87 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.279 there and been around for a while, I want to see him go get 88 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.040 one. Okay, so all right, we're doing for one of the bets. 89 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.439 Okay, good, good, But but that also means Peyton Pritchard gets 90 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:57.160 one, right bettersweet moments. You know, that guy was annoying to me 91 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.639 and you know, coming here when he played with Oregon, he was that 92 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.759 guy that you just he he didn't look like a good player, yet he 93 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.519 could shoot the lights out. He always killed. There was one game he 94 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:12.360 just killed Arizona here and I'm like, I don't ever want that guy to 95 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:15.480 win anything. Not that I'm a barter guy and stuff like that, but 96 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:18.040 I guess I am. But you know, if he's I mean, if 97 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.199 if it means something to Al Horr to you for Al Horford to get when 98 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:27.639 Okay, I'm not rooting for Bayton Pritchard. I was rooting. He kind 99 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.720 of reminded me of a little bit more skilled TJ. McConnell. He had 100 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.720 that guy, if he had that representation for school and he could shoot the 101 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.519 damn lights out, and he always did against Arizona. It seemed like him 102 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:40.680 something. I hated that. I hated that. But but he'll get one 103 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.439 too. So but you know, look, the Celtics have been the best 104 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.920 team all year long. I mean, and I'm not going to say it's 105 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.839 not even close, but hands down right the best team. Then the Mavericks 106 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.439 come out of the you know, out of the West as a as a 107 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:58.839 five seed, right, you know, Oklahoma City wasn't any good. The 108 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.600 Nuggets turned, you know, they're not not be very good. Uh when 109 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:05.040 when I say not very good compared to what you were expecting to be, 110 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:10.639 right, So anyways, I don't know, I can't decide. I'm I'm 111 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.240 I'm focused on the us. I'm gonna tell you, I'm I'm a golfer, 112 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:17.120 so I love the I love the Majors. I've been watching it all 113 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.279 day to day. Scottie Scheffer's in big trouble. Might may not make the 114 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:24.240 cut, which is crazy. He hasn't missed a cut in two years. 115 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:28.480 He's five over. They're projecting the cut at five over, but right now 116 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:30.120 it's at four over. So a couple of guys got to screw up for 117 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.439 the cut to move to five and then if so, then he's in. 118 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:39.279 But he's not in contention. He's he's eleven strokes out with two two uh 119 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:43.279 two rounds left. So I don't know, it's been interesting to watch that 120 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.639 golf course is crazy, uh for those golf for those of you who are 121 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.279 golfers out there, maybe some of you who aren't are bored by this, 122 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:53.800 but seeing I saw a couple of videos going into the tournament where uh, 123 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.879 somebody was standing next to the hole, okay, on a green, standing 124 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.560 next to the hole and just drop the ball, just just dropped it on 125 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.279 the you know, on the green. Uh, you just standing dropped and 126 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.240 it rolled off the green from right next to the hole. I just saw 127 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.720 a shot a few minutes ago. I think it was who was it, 128 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:15.839 I can't remember who it was, but he knocked the ball and it landed, 129 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.839 couldn't be a foot and a half from the hole, spun backwards a 130 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:24.319 little bit, rolled twenty yards off the green. That's a tough go, 131 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:26.639 but you know, that's what they do. They try to make it as 132 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:30.439 hard as possible. We talked to Don Poolly about that earlier in the week. 133 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:31.559 They try to make it as hard as possible. And some of the 134 00:08:31.559 --> 00:08:33.840 shots that these guys are I mean, some of the things that you're seeing 135 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:39.519 happen like Scotti schefferd today, he's in a dirt patch off the green. 136 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.759 He's chipping just to get on the green, and it took him two shots 137 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.960 to get it on the green. The second time he had over the green. 138 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.200 Like I can do that. I have that. I can do that 139 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.279 anytime. But these guys are you know, this golf course is making some 140 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.480 of these guys look very ordinary, and it's it's tough for someone There's some 141 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.559 guys who didn't make the cut. Phil Mickelson's like twelve over right, you 142 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:01.759 know, and I mean he hasn't been good in a long time. But 143 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.639 you know, he wanted to major a few years ago. But he's twelve 144 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:07.240 over. I mean, he doesn't didn't even come close. They showed him 145 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:11.399 a couple of times his shoulders were slummed. He looked like, I just 146 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.600 want to go home. It's tough to watch these guys. But anyway, 147 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:22.000 so what else we we had a good conversation. Uh, we had good 148 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:28.159 conversations yesterday with UH with Mark Wicker about UH about the passion of Jerry West. 149 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.000 Uh. I take it back, that was day before yesterday. Yesterday 150 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.120 we had Wilner talking about the uh all the business side of it. You 151 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.360 know, the naming rights. He mentioned he said, you know, our 152 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.919 school's going to sell their naming rights and javera morale is when you know he 153 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.720 kind of he tweeted that out that John had said that. I think John 154 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.440 was kind of tongue in cheek on that, but said, yeah, you 155 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.159 never know, you know, instead of right, instead of being instead of 156 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:58.200 being the ears on the wildcats, they might be the hsl properties wild kids. 157 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.840 But you know, these these school's got to raise money. They got 158 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:05.600 to raise a lot of money. Then you're looking at a school like Arizona 159 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.200 Yeah, it's like financial trouble. Right. Where are they going to get 160 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.840 the twenty two twenty plus million dollars that they're going to need to pay athletes 161 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.559 within a couple of years. Where's that going to come from? You know, 162 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.200 you know, you're you're hearing things, and you know there was a 163 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:26.159 I don't know if it's in your breaking news, the transfer kid who's going 164 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.720 to Kansas State. Do you hear about this? I heard about it. 165 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:33.080 I don't remember, like what, I can't remember his name, but they're 166 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.720 saying he's getting two million dollars to transfer from from Illinois to Kansas State. 167 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:43.080 And then somebody said, well, he averaged twelve points and six rebounds last 168 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.480 year. What are you doing? Are you gonna pay that guy? He? 169 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.519 What makes him worth two million bucks to a program? And you know, 170 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.519 some people came up and said, I don't believe that, and then 171 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:56.919 a number of others said, no, this one. A lot of other 172 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.679 ones haven't been that. This one's true. And I'm like, wow, 173 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.759 must have a lot of faith. I mean, he's highly thought of, 174 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.080 right, but what are you getting for the two million bucks? If you're 175 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.759 the one putting up two million bucks? Somebody said, maybe sixteen exactly, 176 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.240 maybe you're going to the sweet sixteen? What do you you know, what 177 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.480 are you doing? You know, is Kansas State going to win a national 178 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.320 championship with this guy? You'd hope. So even if they do, Okay, 179 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.720 even if they do and they pay two million dollars for it, you 180 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.919 know, how much are they getting for the final four or for a NANCAA 181 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.320 championship and two million of it went straight to this kid? And then what 182 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:39.600 if you're the guy who's already playing for Kansas State who was a star last 183 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.240 year he decided to come back and you know, kind of finish it out, 184 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:46.240 and all of a sudden, here comes this kid from somewhere else and 185 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:50.519 somebody's given him two million bucks. Oh man, the world of college years 186 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:56.720 or it's messed up. One, it's messed up. I mean, look, 187 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.240 I don't know what tm X getting right, And we know he's getting 188 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.559 something because we talked to to Bert Lopez, who has a contract with TAMAC 189 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.200 too. You know, whatever he's doing for the amount of money, I 190 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:13.000 don't think it's two million dollars. Yeah, no, I don't think it's 191 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.159 two million bucks. You know, maybe it's uh, maybe it's six figures, 192 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.799 maybe it's a couple of hundred thousand whatever. And you know, because 193 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.919 Bert Lopez has a affinity for you of a sports. He loves football, 194 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.480 he wants it to succeed. You know, he's put up some money for 195 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.080 that. But I don't think Bert Lopez is giving anybody two million bucks. 196 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:35.639 And I can't think of any boost at Arizona who would do that for anybody. 197 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.600 No, right, I mean what what I mean, what's what's the 198 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:43.799 top price for you of a athlete, whether it's Caleb love no off a 199 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:48.799 feed, a couple of hundred thousand dollars, Maybe that's probably what you're looking 200 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.080 at, right, I mean, it can't be much more than that. 201 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:56.240 But I think that also says something about the culture right of those right, 202 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.960 each of those respective sports. Because yeah, sure you can go make two 203 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.320 million in Kansas State, but you know, Caleb loves highly thought of around 204 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.759 the college football world, or not college football, college basketball world. But 205 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:13.559 you don't see him making two million. Yeah, he's sticking with Arizona, 206 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.000 all right, He's sticking with Arizona. Sure, he's going to be comfortable. 207 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.399 He'll you know, he'll get some money, he'll have a nice car. 208 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.440 He'll be able to go out, you know and get a pizza or 209 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:24.799 buy some dinner for somebody, or you know, live in a nice place. 210 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:33.000 Right. But I just I just don't see where the somebody that I 211 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.480 was talking to with today said, where's the return on investment on two million 212 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:43.039 dollars going to a kid who averaged twelve and six last year at another school 213 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:48.120 and coming to your school? Exactly what what do you get for that sweet 214 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.320 sixteen? There's a lot of hopes and dreams. Well, you know what, 215 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.279 and there'll be a lot of a lot of attention paid on this one. 216 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.840 People go to say, Okay, here's this kid, and we're everybody's 217 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:58.480 pretty certain he's getting this amount of money. Let's see what Kansas State does 218 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:03.399 with that? What does it do for Kansas State? 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My usual co host, Stiververa's out today, but 300 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.279 I have my our great Friday intern Juan here, and on the phone, 301 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:57.000 we've got Erin Torris for Fox Sports Fox Sports Radio on the Airport Aerin tors 302 00:19:57.039 --> 00:20:02.559 podcast. You know, i'd call you aaron an expert, and I'll tell 303 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.240 you why, you know in college athletics because of a call that you made, 304 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.480 I think way back in November December. So welcome to the show. 305 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.720 Appreciate you being here. What was the call? I mean, now you 306 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.119 got that's that's what we call a teeth in the business. Yeah. Well, 307 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.799 I was listening to your podcast and I remember if it was late November 308 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:22.920 or December, and you predicted that John Calipari would not be the coach at 309 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.960 Kentucky after this last season. You know, he hadn't the season hadn't gone 310 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.279 far enough for him to be bad, bad enough to say he's going to 311 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:34.240 get fired. But you said you thought he'd be gone after this last season, 312 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.799 and in the end he was. I got to give you a lot 313 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.519 of credit for that. Oh thank you. Yeah, it's crazy that that 314 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:42.839 was surreal, and I know we got a lot of stuff to hit on 315 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:48.319 outside of that, but yeah, it was just, you know, that 316 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.200 situation was so toxic, and listen, I think there's a lot of blame 317 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:55.640 to go around. It was the fans. I don't think Cal helped his 318 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:59.640 own situation, but it just felt like every time there was a loss, 319 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.200 you know, Cal wanted to take zero responsibility. The fans overreacted in a 320 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.759 way that I don't know that I've ever seen covering college sports. And I 321 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.240 think part of it was the contract. But I'll tell you, Jay, 322 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:12.519 you know, I'd love to take a ton of credit. But I just 323 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:18.599 remember after that NCAA tournament lost to Oakland, I just remember sitting there saying, 324 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.960 this can't go on. But obviously they didn't have the money to fire 325 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.839 him, and I didn't think that he would leave on his own accords. 326 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:32.000 So you know, I don't remember what I said in November December. I 327 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:36.240 just know that after that Oakland game, I had the thought of you can't 328 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.880 run this back again, but I didn't, but I thought they had no 329 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:41.960 choice but to. So, you know, one of many, many, 330 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.759 many crazy stories going on in the world of college sports over the last twelve 331 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:49.440 months or so. Well, one of the crazier ones to me and Juan 332 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:53.839 and I talked about it last segment was this news that came out today. 333 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:57.160 You know, and again, so many numbers have been thrown around about Caleb 334 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:00.880 Williams at usc how much he was made king and all this stuff, But 335 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:04.359 this report comes out today that Kansas State assigned a kid and he's going to 336 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:08.559 get two million dollars a year. And he's not even like a spectacular you 337 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.440 know, can't miss Kinnie. He's a really good player, but two million 338 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:17.920 dollars to a place like Kansas State. First of all, your thoughts on 339 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:19.759 that? Are you hearing anything about it? Do you do you have any 340 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:23.839 confirmation of it? I guess yeah, you know, I actually do. 341 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:27.519 I can't say one hundred percent confirmation, But you know, he was an 342 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:32.160 interesting one because you know, he was interesting because he was pretty vocal. 343 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:36.039 Is he was a great great is relative. He was very good player at 344 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:38.079 Illinois. The stats are a little bit misleading. He dealt with some injuries. 345 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.079 You know, I would call him one of the top twenty five or 346 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:47.599 so players in college basketball, maybe top thirty, you know whatever, he 347 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.079 was very good. And I bring it up because you know, he was 348 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.880 very vocal about this time. Last year he entered the NBA Draft, but 349 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:57.880 you know, he went through the process, but when he decided to come 350 00:22:57.880 --> 00:23:02.359 back, he didn't really have any options. And so in this Nio world, 351 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:06.680 I think he said it without saying it that you know, he felt 352 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:08.920 like he was a little bit undervalued at Illinois, so when he entered. 353 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.359 So when he entered the draft, he also entered the portal. And I 354 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.680 will tell you Jay, when he when he announced that he was even before 355 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:19.799 he announced he was coming back, I knew a staff that had kind of 356 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.519 poked around and just just to gauge is he coming back? Is he not? 357 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:27.960 What's the price tag? And they said that he did come back because 358 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:32.680 he saw you know, Great Osabor was the player at the University of Washington 359 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:36.799 that was at about two million dollars. And long story short, I think 360 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.720 Great osa Bor is a fine player, but I don't even think he's like 361 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:44.880 elite by any stretch, especially heading to now the big tenant Washington. So 362 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.559 I was actually told before this kid entered the portal, or excuse me, 363 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:52.720 before he removed his name from the draft, that he was quote looking for 364 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.319 great osabor money. Now has anybody worked that in college basketball? Maybe a 365 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.799 handful of people, But I was told he was going on the highest bidder. 366 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.640 And and the last thing I would say, really quick is I do 367 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:06.599 think there's a little bit of a learning lesson for the future, is you 368 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:11.200 know, I think by waiting until the absolute deadline for the NBA Draft to 369 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.039 withdraw, I think he did limit some of his options because you referenced Kansas 370 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:17.759 State, which is a good program, they made the Elite eight two years 371 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.319 ago. Whatever. But I think he, you know, he would have 372 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.599 gotten the best of both worlds if he had decided to withdraw, maybe a 373 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.640 little bit earlier. Where a little bit of a high profile school, a 374 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.920 little bit of a more eye profile school, Uh, you know, good 375 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.759 money, all that stuff. But to answer your question directly, I knew 376 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.519 something like this was coming, but it is still insane to think about how 377 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.640 quickly the narrative in college sports has changed. And it's crazy. And I 378 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:42.680 guess, you know, if you're saying he should have done this and he 379 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:47.200 should have done that. If he's getting two million dollars, he did okay, 380 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:49.000 right, for sure, for sure. But you know it's like I 381 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.720 think, you know, listen, I mean, let's let's call it what 382 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:53.200 it is. I mean, at the end of the day, he's going 383 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:57.079 to a team that didn't make the NCAA tournament last year. He's coming off 384 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.680 in Elite eight appearance, and I think even in a best case scenario, 385 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.680 that's probably the fourth, fifth, sixth best team in the now Big twelve, 386 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:08.480 your future Big twelve rivals there in Tucson. But in all seriousness, 387 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.119 I mean, you look at the rosters. I mean, Arizona's gonna be 388 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.400 awesome, Kansas is gonna be Austin, and Houston's gonna be awesome, Baylor's 389 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.519 gonna be awesome, on and on and so. All I was really trying 390 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.920 to say was if he had made that decision a little bit earlier, I 391 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:25.279 don't want to say a more high profile place, but I think he would 392 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:29.559 have had better options than just Kansas State because there wasn't much outside of them 393 00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.720 as far as interest relative to how good he is. Well, let me 394 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:36.880 ask you, you know, based on what you know, are schools like 395 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:42.119 Kansas Due, North Carolina, let's say, a god, I don't know, 396 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:47.559 even Arizona are they Are they paying two million dollars for a player? 397 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:52.960 For one player? You know? I don't know because you know, well 398 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:57.200 I can't answer that because ultimately, like what we got to remember is he 399 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:02.160 was essentially a free agent. So like, what was the number for Caleb 400 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.680 Love to come back to Arizona? You know, I don't know. I 401 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.720 don't know if that's certainly not something that's public as far as I know, 402 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.839 So no, I think these numbers are on the high end, and it's 403 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.400 because these are kids with leverage. Now, what I would also say is, 404 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:17.920 you know, I think, let me say this is like when we 405 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.079 hear a lot of these coaches, you know, really pushing hey, make 406 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.440 sure to donate to the collectiveness. That the other thing. I think a 407 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.039 guy like today Coleman Hawkins, he certainly makes a headline. But I think 408 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.799 if a Tommy Lloyd comes out and says, hey, make sure you're donating 409 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:34.720 to our collective, I think it's more to retain a kJ Lewis, Jaden 410 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:38.799 Bradley, a Caleb Love so that they don't feel the need to enter the 411 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.079 portal and test their options, so that they don't feel the need or feel 412 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:47.119 as though they're underappreciated. So, you know, I can't sit here and 413 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.440 say who's making what? I just know that, you know, the kids 414 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:55.039 that do enter the portal end up being super high profile because of the fact 415 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.160 that they almost become essentially free agents, open to the highest fitter. Right, 416 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.559 just the craziness of it is just you know, I'm an old guy, 417 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.680 right, it's just too it's a lot for me to handle. Not 418 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.880 that you're old when I said when I said, I know I didn't need 419 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.519 o guy, just that it's just crazy. You know how much college sports 420 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.079 has changed. I know I'm talking a lot here, but I'll just say 421 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.200 it's like even the story yesterday about the Big Twelve, which obviously has big 422 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.640 Arizona tizes, but you know, are they going to bring in private equity? 423 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.119 Are they going to you know, rebrand the conference with a corporate sponsor. 424 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.960 It's like, you know, two years ago, it was like if 425 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.720 a kid couldn't even sell his autograph for fifty bucks, or he was suspended 426 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.920 for a game, And now it's like you know, the Big twelve might 427 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.720 be you know, the the Big twelve might be the Doctor Pepper twelve before 428 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.759 it's all said and done or something like that. You know what I mean. 429 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.240 Well, you know, and my position on that, and to me, 430 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.920 that's a whole lot different because if if the schools are going to be 431 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.599 forced to pay these athletes, they got to go get some money from somewhere. 432 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.440 You know, all right, I joke, sell naming rights to everything, 433 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.799 right, Sell naming rights to your palm line, Sell naming rights to 434 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.200 your band, sell naming rights to you know, we had John Wilner on 435 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.559 he said, sell naming rights to the school. You know that he said 436 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:17.440 that the in and out Wildcats instead of the air See. That feels like 437 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.599 a bridge too far. But then again, you know, there's probably thirty 438 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.319 stories that have come out over the last four or five years that feels a 439 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.400 bridge too far, you know, exactly exactly. So speaking of you mentioned, 440 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.200 you know, retaining players and stuff like that, how about Yukon retaining 441 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.359 its coach and all the all the news behind that, Dan Hurley uh deciding 442 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.759 not to go to the Lakers. Uh? You know where you as a 443 00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.279 fan, okay, as as somebod who covers this and as a fan, 444 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:47.279 are you happy that he stayed or would or does it make it better for 445 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.960 you? Or were you okay with him going? And let's see what happens 446 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:55.319 at Yukon. So yeah, I mean, first of all, you know, 447 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.240 I am a Yukon of lum I. You know, it's tough for 448 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.519 me because I never really thought that it was a real story to begin with. 449 00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:04.680 I thought, and I know he did his media tour yesterday where he 450 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.680 said it wasn't a leverage play, and anybody who says that is an idiot, 451 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.799 and maybe I'm an idiot, but I still think to a degree it 452 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:12.920 was a leverage play. And oh, by the way, in the same 453 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.240 sentence where he said it's not a leverage play, he said, my contract 454 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:18.559 is done, but I'm trying to take care of my assistance, So it 455 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.759 is a leverage play to some degree. I'll say this. There's two things 456 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.160 jay On. That is, I don't think it would have landed well for 457 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.400 you despite everything he's done for the university. And let's let's just acknowledge that, 458 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.440 you know, he's trending to go down as a potentially all time great 459 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.519 coach if he stays, and even if he left this year, I think 460 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.799 there's there's a large portion of the fan base that would totally get it and 461 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.440 whatever. But I do think and this is also part of the reason that 462 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.319 I didn't think he was going to go, is just the timing. The 463 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.880 timing of it from the perspective of it's June. You know, you had 464 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.000 a kid named Alex Caravan, one of the first players to sign with you 465 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:57.559 at Yukon going into his fourth year. Now, maybe not one of the 466 00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:02.640 first, but in early was with you from the beginning. That kid could 467 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.680 have stayed in the NBA draft and ultimately been drafted, and he wanted to 468 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.319 come back for another year. Uh, you know, you had a bunch 469 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.680 of freshmen that were that didn't play much that you know, he really had 470 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.240 to obviously spend a lot of time communicating with saying, Hey, there's a 471 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.559 plan for you in place here, let's develop you, let's get you better, 472 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.079 let's whatever. And so I think that was part of it from his 473 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.519 perspective or and he has acknowledged that in some of the interviews that he did 474 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:32.039 yesterday of you know, there's a time maybe to seriously consider the NBA. 475 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.759 But not only was this not I don't think the one. I'll just be 476 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.759 honest, I don't think the Lakers is a good job right now because you 477 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.839 have a four year old, you know, aging superstar that wants you to 478 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:47.039 coach his son too. But but besides all that, I think that the 479 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:51.000 timing of this popping up in early June. I think if the Lake, 480 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.000 you know, if the Lakers, if he really was the favorite, and 481 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:56.200 the Lakers had come at him the first week of May when they fired Darvin 482 00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:00.880 Ham, I think even that might be a little bit of a different conversation. 483 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.920 But you know, I was never that worried. Maybe I should have 484 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.519 been, Like I said, he claims that it was a tough decision. 485 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.960 All I'll say is it didn't. He didn't act like a guy this weekend 486 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:17.599 that had a really tough decision between showing between the fact that he was really 487 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.319 in La probably less than twenty four hours, the fact that he was at 488 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.720 the concert on Saturday night back on the East coast, just nothing to me 489 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.200 adds up to a guy that felt like he was ready to make this move. 490 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.200 And I say that as a guy that says that, you know what 491 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.880 someday in the future there probably will be a job that is of more interest 492 00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.799 to him. But this one, I'm not just saying it with hindsight and 493 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.319 revisionist history. It really was never a moment. There weren't many moments, 494 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.640 I should say where I was really that concerned that he was leaving well. 495 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.000 And you know, and the other thing that came out of that, like 496 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.319 you said, was that a lot of people just start saying, you, 497 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.119 guys, the Lakers job is not what the Lakers job used to be, 498 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.039 Kay, And I apologize for keep cutting you off, but like that was 499 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.279 the thing that I and you know, we live on the West Coast, 500 00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.960 so maybe it's a little bit different. But I was like stunned by the 501 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.839 number of people that are, like, you don't turn down the Lakers when 502 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.480 they call, And I'm like, what is this night like nineteen eighty two? 503 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:20.519 Like is Byron Scott and Magic Johnson still on the team? It's like, 504 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.599 you know, you besides the fact that I think it's obviously come out 505 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:28.640 that you know, the franchise maybe financially isn't in a place that a lot 506 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.039 of others are. But I mean, you look at the situation with Lebron 507 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:36.640 James, Like people are talking about coaching Lebron James like it's twenty thirteen and 508 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.440 having him on your team guarantees you a trip to the finals. And that's 509 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:44.079 just not the case anymore. You know, this is a guy that you 510 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.920 know his last two coach listen, a coach that, let remember, it's 511 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:52.960 easy to forget the Lakers made the Western Conference finals last season, and a 512 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.240 year later, that coach is fired. And so you can sit here and 513 00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.799 call me a Yukon homer. But for Dan Hurley to give up what he's 514 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.480 built at Yukon to go to the Lakers and if it doesn't work out, 515 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.480 he's immediately on the hot seat, and he's immediately the fall guy. Like 516 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.319 I said, I just think there's gonna be an NBA opportunity where you know, 517 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.119 it's a little closer to home, a little closer to his family. 518 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.440 He's gonna have time to build it the way he wants. The Lakers can 519 00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:22.039 say all these great things about we want your developmental and your culture near this, 520 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.279 and you're that. But when push comes to shove and Lebron James is 521 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:29.000 mad, I don't know that I believe that he's going to get the benefit 522 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.240 of the doubt. And so I didn't never understand the conversation about, well, 523 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.440 you don't turn down the Lakers. It's like, I don't know, 524 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.039 a lot of people seem to be turning down the Lakers. So anyway, 525 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.680 I'm going on and on. But no, but I know all that valid 526 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:44.480 stuff because it's it's kind of what we're talking about, right It's like, 527 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:45.640 I mean, I thought the same thing, you know, I thought, 528 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.359 like, okay, yeah, the Lakers are it's a you know, it's 529 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.559 they're iconic, but they're not very good and it's not a very good franchise. 530 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.200 Right now, one quick thing before before we let you go, okay, 531 00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.759 we're it's kind of like, all right, all the sports are over 532 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:01.680 with, Well, the College World Series is still going on, but now 533 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:07.279 we're talking about next year and all the changes, all the all the realignments. 534 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:08.920 You know, we're talking Arizona is in the Big twelve. Now we're 535 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.800 going to stop talking about the Pac twelve. It's time to start to you 536 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.239 know, as they say, turn the page, and we're looking at an 537 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:21.679 academic here coming up where completely different. We've got the college Football Playoff, 538 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.880 We've got a Big Twelve Basketball conference. It's just going to be unbelievable, 539 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.960 which to me, you know, if Arizone was going to land in a 540 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:34.079 conference I like the one that they're in largely because of that. Just some 541 00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.039 of your thoughts on what this all these changes, how they're going to look 542 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.519 when when games are starting to get played and now you know, as somebody 543 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.440 said, UCLA is playing Rutgers and it's a conference game. No, there's 544 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.480 no doubt that some of the schedule got leaked the other last week. I 545 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.320 live in LA I do radio on Saturday nights, but USC plays Rutgers in 546 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.360 a Big Ten game on a Friday night, and I said, you know, 547 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.719 I've been out in Coliseum in about four or five years. I would 548 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.199 love to get down to that game because on a Friday I might be able 549 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.159 to do it, you know, my big thing. And I don't know 550 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.000 that it's applicable for some of the Big twelve schools, But first of all, 551 00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:10.639 it is going to look so different, and I think from a basketball 552 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.599 perspective, it's going to be fascinating. From the Arizona side, like how 553 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.840 they end up you know, how just things end up playing out. But 554 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.440 from the football side when I'm fascinated by, Like it's funny. Jeff Levy, 555 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.400 who's the new Mississippi State football coach, said something to the effect of, 556 00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.559 I don't think anybody in this league is going undefeated anymore, and it 557 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:35.280 became like a talking point, and I'm like, yeah, no, nobody 558 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.920 is, you know, and I just I think it's going to be interesting. 559 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:43.159 There's a lot of schools that that you know, have historically, whether 560 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.800 it's Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, you know, Oregon. In 561 00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.159 the PAC twelve, USC has certainly had success through the years, though not 562 00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.079 as much recently, Alabama, Georgia. There's these schools that just expect to 563 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.199 be a ten to eleven twelve win team. But I think there's a lot 564 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.320 of there's a lot of teams that are just gonna have to except like nine 565 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.519 and three is kind of the new eleven and one, just with the way 566 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.760 the schedules break. So I think that's the interesting thing to me is, 567 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.840 like I said, there's a lot of schools that dominated in the Pac twelve. 568 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.159 The Big ten is obviously deeper, the SEC is deeper. There's no 569 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:20.599 divisions in those conferences anymore. And I think It's just gonna be fascinating to 570 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.400 see how people perceive nine and three used to be, like, Okay, 571 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.480 it's good, but it's not great. It might be great for some of 572 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.920 these teams with the way some of these schedules break, right. No, 573 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.079 absolutely, absolutely, Well, Aaron marount of time. I do appreciate you 574 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:37.119 joining us on a Friday afternoon, and I'm hoping we'll run into you some 575 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:38.960 And I'm looking forward to this here just to see what it's like. I 576 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:43.360 think the newness of it. As much as I hate what happened to the 577 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.360 Pac twelve, the newness of all of it, I'm a little fired up 578 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.840 by it. We're gonna see in Kansas City at the Big twelve tournament or 579 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:51.800 what you know, Well, you know, if they invite me, you 580 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:57.039 know I got you know, my stuff was paid for in Vegas. Yeah, 581 00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.199 I know. I'm not quite as many hotel rooms in can in the 582 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:00.920 city, I don't think. I mean I've only been once, but I 583 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.559 don't think there's quite as many hotel rooms. So we'll see not quite as 584 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.280 many hotel rooms are blackjack tables. So there you go, exactly, Eric, 585 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.119 Thanks great week. I appreciate you joining us. Thank you, Steve. 586 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.159 Okay, Steve's okay, thank you, thank you all right. The 587 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.119 Eron Tours from Fox Sports, Fox Sports Radio and the and the Erin Tors 588 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.960 Podcast. Give him a listener's he's got a lot of He got a lot 589 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.639 of knowledge, as you could tell, uh follows a lot of stuff. 590 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:29.320 He's a West Coast guy, even though he's a Yukon guy. A lot 591 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:31.039 of interesting stuff coming from Eron toaurs. So thank you Erin for joining us. 592 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.840 Let's go and take our break. We went a little over. We're 593 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:36.679 gonna come back. Would love to take your cost five two zero four, 594 00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.119 one sixty four forty wight be right back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball 595 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.519 fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a 596 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.679 look back at the Ludolsen era. 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Picture Rocks Pulling, Cheating and Plumbing. 623 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:44.480 Steve Rivera and Jake and Salez they have their eye on the ball. On 624 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:51.360 Tucson's sports Stig Jet Fox Sports fourteen fifteen streaming live, I'm the iHeartRadio WAM. 625 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:53.360 Welcome back down on the Bawling on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your 626 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.960 host Jakin Salas. Steve is out for the day, and but I do 627 00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:00.760 have my buddy Jan here, so one and a kicking things around. Interesting 628 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.159 conversation with with Aaron. A lot of you know, interesting perspective, you 629 00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.559 know when you talk about you know, Aaron reports from a national perspective and 630 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.880 and just the things going on. We're talking about this kid, Coleman Hawkins 631 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:16.840 is alleged allegedly getting two million dollars to play basketball in college. Right in 632 00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:22.599 college, we may uh. Javea morale Is on Twitter just pointed out, 633 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:24.159 we may see him, Michaeliff. You know, we we haven't seen the 634 00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:28.960 basketball schedule yet for Kansas State he's in He's in Arizona's league, so we 635 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.079 may see him. I'm like, okay, are you worth two million dollars? 636 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:34.280 And then you know what's that gonna be like for him? Right, 637 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.880 He's going to go to an arena, He's going he's going to go to 638 00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.559 Kansas or he's gonna wherever. He's going to go. Iowa State, some 639 00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.960 of those teams that they already have big rivalries with, what are their student 640 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.840 sections going to be like when he walks in the door, right exactly? 641 00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.840 I mean, you know a couple of years ago, we had those owners 642 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.360 are going against the one u c l A forward. Now what are they 643 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.639 are they going to bring out money signs for? They were they were they 644 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.119 were poling Brownie. Yeah, exactly, done anything to them? Yeah, 645 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:06.280 you just started getting on that starting spot, the injuries. Yeah, and 646 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.519 so there was a lot of unknown with him. You know that. You 647 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:12.199 heard the booze, right, and I guess, I guess for two million 648 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.679 bucks, you're gonna put it. You'll be happy to put up with stuff. 649 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.039 Right, Well, you give me two million dollars, you can call 650 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.079 me all the names you want exactly. But nonetheless, you know, he's 651 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.760 what twenty twenty one, twenty two years old, and you know he's still 652 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.280 young, and we're going to see you know what some of how some of 653 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:34.440 these things, uh uh, some of these things, you know, play 654 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.360 out with these guys. Now, football is different, right, You're on 655 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.320 a football field, you're far away from the fans, You're you've got your 656 00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:45.079 helmet on people. You know, it's it's you know, you're you're you're 657 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.039 at a distance. But college basketball players, you're right up on top of 658 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.280 these guys. And these guys aren't making money. I mean, you know, 659 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.599 he made a point. We don't know what Caleb Love got or if 660 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.360 you got anything, or how much he got or what he's getting to play 661 00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.599 another season at Arizona. Same with A. A. J. Lewis, 662 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.039 JAYD and Bradley, All three of those guys went into the went into the 663 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:06.599 draft, and all came back. You know, what are they getting? 664 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.840 And I think at some point one of the things that they're pushing for. 665 00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:15.079 And when I say they, whoever they are, NC double A said that 666 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.760 they want transparency. And in all this, how much of these guys getting 667 00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.920 right so that there's an understanding? And I don't know what the purpose of 668 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.000 that is. If I'm if I'm making a salary, I don't necessarily want 669 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:29.599 everybody to know my salary. I mean, you accept that if you're a 670 00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:34.679 government employee or university employee, Yeah, it's public record what you make. 671 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.400 But you know, people don't know what I make. People don't know what 672 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.000 my wife makes. She works at a private company. I don't understand how 673 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.079 you get that. I know, I know because of anti trust issues and 674 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.440 all the things that come with the regulation of the NFL and the NBA, 675 00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.159 stuff like that. Yes, we get their salary information. Is that going 676 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.760 to extend to colleges? I don't know. But you know, I don't 677 00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:59.400 know if we're ever going to know what some of these guys are getting. 678 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:04.000 And I guess I don't even know what the purpose is of knowing. Yeah, 679 00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.400 I think it's just people's interests. And I think, like we said, 680 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.480 when when the Coleman Hawkins comes into Michael Center, you're gonna start comparing 681 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.639 the Caleb Love to the Coleman Hawkins. And is it justified that he is 682 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:20.119 ranking two million over a killed Love who makes X amount of dollars? Or 683 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.159 or what do you what do your own fans do if you have a bad 684 00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:27.239 game? Exactly right? You you miss a you miss a buzzer beater that 685 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:28.840 would have won a game, and they say, well, what the hell 686 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.599 are we paying you two million dollars for if you don't make that shot? 687 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.599 Right? Those kinds of things, and those are issues that I think we're 688 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:39.119 gonna uh you know that, I think we're gonna start to see I think 689 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:44.440 more in basketball season than in football season. Right Like, like you know 690 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:49.960 again mentioned mention a tatoo. McMillan, you know he's getting something. Humberto 691 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.599 Lopez came out and show and said, I'm paying him. He's got a 692 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:54.519 contract with him. We don't know what it is. Uh, maybe we 693 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.360 find out, maybe we don't, but you know, he's just gonna go 694 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.159 play his game. And I don't see, I don't see where he's going 695 00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:07.159 to get boot off the field or anything like that. But college basketball, 696 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.119 because it's it's sort of a much more personal environment. I could see that 697 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.960 becoming an issue for some of these guys who are getting a bunch of money, 698 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.400 and even just the difference in sports. Right, like you said, 699 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:22.280 football, they have the helmets, they have the year basketball. You see 700 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.280 their face, you see all their expressions all the time. They got to 701 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.079 walk through you to get to their locker room, exactly right. That's going 702 00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.920 to be a really interesting thing to see what happens there. If you want 703 00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.480 to give us a call, five two zero four one six seventy four forty 704 00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.199 would love to hear from you. I said the number wrong. As we're 705 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:42.679 the break, I've only been doing it for four years. I don't know 706 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.559 what to tell you. Five two zero four one six seventy four forty. 707 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:49.199 You know, I got to ask the question, right, would you give 708 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.840 that kind of money? Two million bucks? How much money do you have 709 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.960 to have to be able to do that? Right? And you know, 710 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:00.960 I mean I I think the implication is that you know, the two million 711 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:06.079 dollars is probably coming from one source. They didn't go out and gather two 712 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.719 million dollars that was going to go to this player and that player in those 713 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.920 players, somebody came up and said, Okay, I'll give you the two 714 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:14.880 million bucks if you'll go get him and we'll be better if you're a booster 715 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.920 or a fan or an alumnus. How much money do you have to have 716 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.280 to say, Okay, I got two million bucks to give to this kid? 717 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:24.920 Yeah, how much you know? I asked, and I said I 718 00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:29.719 it would have to be Bill Gates money for me, And I don't even 719 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.760 know if I would do it then, right, I'd much rather put the 720 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:37.159 money toward, you know, athletic scholarships, you know, help them with 721 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.840 that. And if you've got if you take my scholar if you take my 722 00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:43.880 money and put it towards scholarships, then you move money over to give to 723 00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.280 him, that's on you. I don't want to be the one giving one 724 00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:51.480 kid two million bucks. I don't know. I feel like that's just too 725 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:55.760 much of a risk, right given I know we're getting real specific with Colemenhawkins, 726 00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:00.320 but you see the stats and you see the well he's getting right, 727 00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:05.760 something doesn't add up. There must be a little bit of an x factor 728 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:09.599 that might be coming with him. We'll see come and again. You know, 729 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:14.800 Jason Chaer made the point, and as did everybody else. He averaged 730 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.679 twelve and six last year. He wasn't a twenty point guy. He wasn't 731 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:23.159 going twenty and ten. He's a six ten forward kind of average guy. 732 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:30.079 You know. Aaron Torres said he's maybe the top twenty twenty five, top 733 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.239 thirty player in the country. How did he get two million bucks, you 734 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.719 know, to do this? How many guys play for his owner that are 735 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:43.760 better than him? We don't know. Right, you're not saying none, 736 00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.280 Right, you're not saying none of them. So what the hell? How 737 00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:52.519 does this guy get that? Look it must be I'm not jealous. Well 738 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.559 okay, I'm a little jealous, but maybe wouldn't be more power to the 739 00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.559 kid to pull that deal off? Right? There was one of the one 740 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:04.920 of the social media posts about it mentioned, you know, he had he 741 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.119 had a marketing firm and an agent and all this stuff that went out and 742 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.400 got this form. More power to those guys if you can get it, 743 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.880 get it. I just don't understand the people who are giving it. That's 744 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.079 the part that I don't that that I can't wrap my brain around, uh, 745 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.079 you know, doing that, and it's something we're just gonna have to 746 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:27.119 get used to, you know, perfect, that's a that's exactly exactly it. 747 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:29.519 We do have to get used to that. We you know, and 748 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.360 you know what, sometime somewhere along the line, there's gonna be a kid 749 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:36.320 come to Arizona, you know, basketball player, more more more than likely 750 00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:39.639 a basketball player that you're going to find out. Some people in this community 751 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:43.360 put a package together to get him, you know, a million, million 752 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.280 and a half two million dollars so he would play at Arizona. I'm like, 753 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:52.079 I don't see how that can happen, but I guess it could. 754 00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:53.440 If it can happen again in the States, shoot, it can happen here. 755 00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.239 I mean I feel like it should. You know, Arizona's been around 756 00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:01.559 for a while. They're quote unquote a powerhouse in college the college basketball world, 757 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.960 So why wouldn't we be. But you bring that kid here. He's 758 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.199 making more money than anybody on the team except Tommy Lloyd. Yeah, more 759 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.079 than all the coaches, you know, more than all the coaches probably combined. 760 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.880 You know, I mean, it's a it's a crazy thing, but 761 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.320 You're right. It's it's it's the way of the world. We got to 762 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.920 get used to it, and it's going to happen. More and more athletes 763 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:24.840 are going to get this kind of money and we're going to you know, 764 00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:29.960 we're just going to deal with it. So I don't know, I'd much 765 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.079 rather deal with the naming stuff exactly. I'm I'm you know, I mean, 766 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.800 am I somebody who would have been upset five years ago, ten years 767 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.880 ago, fifteen years ago if they renamed Michale Center, you know, Bank 768 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.079 of America Center, something like go sure, I would have not today because 769 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:52.639 I you know, I understand the money situation. I'd rather Arizona be competitive 770 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.920 on the field and have the money to run a program that can be competitive 771 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.840 then than not. Right, if you have to, if you have to 772 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:06.719 change the name of Michale Center, if you have to change the name of 773 00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.320 Arizona Stadium, even if you have to change the name of High Corbett Field, 774 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.840 Hill and Brand Stadium, I don't care if you got to. You 775 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.039 know, if you got to name those well, Hill and Brand Stadium is 776 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.159 already named. Somebody's paying for that. But you know, if you have 777 00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.280 to do that in order to have the money and the funding to be competitive, 778 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:30.039 and it keeps ticket prices from going up. As much as I think 779 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.119 they're going to go up because of all this, then I'm okay with it. 780 00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.880 Fine, we you know, we've already gotten rid of all the tradition 781 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.159 and history, you know, but getting rid of the PAC twelve. Yep, 782 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:44.480 let's just let's just do it and be competitive. I mean, as 783 00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.360 much as we talk about how much we dislike it, there is some good 784 00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:50.679 stuff to it. You know. If I'd love to see those ticket prices 785 00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:52.199 go down, you know, there's a lot of well they're not going down, 786 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:57.159 but I think I eventually keep going up the way they're going up. 787 00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.679 Right, But you hear I've been hearing about some these these long time ticket 788 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.800 holders that have had to give it up because they keep going up in it. 789 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.079 Yeah, you don't want to hear that. Yeah, yeah, I 790 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:12.280 mean, and and you know we were talking yesterday the day before that college 791 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.559 football fan is different from the NFL fan. NFL fan is going to die 792 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.239 for their team if the tickets go up, fifty bucks are going to pay 793 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:20.039 the extra. If they go up, one hundred bucks are gonna pay the 794 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.679 extra, And they're still going to go out and buy the jerseys and the 795 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:24.559 cups and the you know, make their man caves and stuff like that. 796 00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.559 College football fan. There's some college football fans to do that, but the 797 00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:32.360 average regular college football fan, they want the ten dollars ticket, the fifteen 798 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.519 dollars ticket. They or they only buy they only go to three games instead 799 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.400 of buying season tickets. It's a different fan base. And I think that 800 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.000 you know, if again, if you have if you have to go, 801 00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:52.039 if you go raise money and it keeps that stuff kind of within, we're 802 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.599 close to where we are, then do it. Just do it, you 803 00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:59.559 know what I mean? Okay, so it's you know again, it's Bank 804 00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:07.960 of America, a center, you know, presented by Pap McHale, you 805 00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.199 know, whatever it is. Uh, you know, you know they they're 806 00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:14.559 going to need the money, and every program is going to need that, 807 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.000 even the big ones, you know, the Texas and Alabama and Ohio State. 808 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.239 You know, we like to think they've got oodles and oodles of money, 809 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:23.880 but you know, when you start having to pay out a bunch of 810 00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:30.239 that money to athletes and stuff like that, I'm sure those programs don't have 811 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:34.559 an extra twenty million dollars sitting around right now. They just don't all right, 812 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.079 God, my head is spinning. My head is really spinning. All 813 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:42.000 right, but you you are loaded up with breaking news, right, Okay, 814 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.400 we're gonna come back. We got breaking news, and then we're gonna 815 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:51.760 have a doctor Don Porter, the former team physician for UH for the U 816 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:55.280 of A Athletic department for a number of years. Great guy, I'm guarantee 817 00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.400 it's gonna be a fun conversation. He's going to join us at four twenty. 818 00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:02.320 But when we get it's going to be a wand coming up with breaking 819 00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:06.280 news, and there's lots of it. I see the US Open is getting 820 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.159 close to wrapping up, and my boy ludvig Aberg has the lead. He's 821 00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:13.199 the guy that I picked this week. I stug, man, he's killing 822 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.199 it. Look twenty four year old dude. Man can't belie. I mean, 823 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.400 he's a child. He's a child. All right, we'll be right 824 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:19.320 back with breaking news.