WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.839 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis 2 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:07.679 Show. Please be sure to give us a five star rating if you'd be 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:12.000 so kind, and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every single 4 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:18.239 day on your favorite podcast platform. It's a dying art where people from opposing 5 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:22.960 parties are willing to get together in person, have a debate, answer the 6 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:27.039 tough questions and more importantly, the follow up questions, even from their opponent, 7 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:30.519 because there just aren't that many people out there anymore, you know, 8 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.960 who have that kind of conviction and that kind of confidence in their own abilities. 9 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.679 So all the credit in the world to Tricia Calvareci, who's here today, 10 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:44.119 Democrat candidate for Congress and CD four. Welcome Tricia and Doug Greg Lopez, 11 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:48.240 Greg and everybody who listens to the show familiar with Greg very accomplished on 12 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:53.560 the conservative side, and he's the nominee from the GOP for this special election. 13 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:58.119 I won't suck up debate time by getting into the special election versus general 14 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:02.479 election stuff. Stakes are high. You know, whoever wins this, yeah, 15 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:06.640 that person's going to be sitting in a very closely divided Congress. So 16 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:10.680 again, thank you to both and to be here well, thank you. 17 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:14.799 And we left it to Tricia to make the choice on who would go first, 18 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.519 because again, I have to tell you how much I admire you coming 19 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:22.280 into this format because obviously this is a conservative radio show, right, but 20 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.560 you're not afraid to come in here and debate, and I just I know 21 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.959 we're going to disagree on probably every major issue, right, but I respect 22 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:30.920 the heck out of you for being willing to do that, and I think 23 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.760 it says lots of good things about you. So so let's dive in. 24 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:38.480 Greg, you go first. The first question up for people, and we 25 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.319 have a time clock that the candidates know about and will enforce gently. But 26 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:47.640 I'm going to ask each of you to open with just a little bit about 27 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.680 who you are, but why you would be a better representative for CD four 28 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:55.599 than your opponent, and then your opponent will reply to that. Okay, 29 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:57.120 Well, listen, Dan, it's great to be here with you tonight, 30 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.719 you know, and I want to start by really commending Tricia for stepping up 31 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:07.040 to the plate, you know, and wanting to serve the fourth congressional district. 32 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:09.319 You know, when you step up to the plate and run for office, 33 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:13.680 you become a target. And so you know, a lot of us 34 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:16.879 are familiar with that, and so I think it's it's good that she's doing 35 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.960 this. You know, we probably differ on a lot of policies, but 36 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.039 I'm glad to hear that, you know, she's in agreement with me when 37 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:29.439 I talk about, you know, people over politics, I think we share 38 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:34.520 that same concern as it pertains to be in an office, you know, 39 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:37.599 and we mentioned that on June twenty fifth. This is a special election, 40 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:39.960 so the people of the CD four are going to be looking for someone that 41 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:45.960 has knowledge, experience, and wisdom that truly understands the complexities and the challenges 42 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.240 of the district. And so I think I because I've been traveling the state 43 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.000 for a number of years, I have connected with them. You know, 44 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:58.080 I'm a small business owner, I'm a veteran. You know, I'm a 45 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.199 husband, I'm a Christian. You know, I'm a father, and so 46 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:05.919 all those things I think helped me become the best Congressman that we can have 47 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.039 here for the next six months. And so that's why I'm running. You 48 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:13.199 know, I think the district wants to see secured borders. They want an 49 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:15.960 economy that works for them, not against them. And so you know, 50 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:21.599 I would just ask all the people in CD four to pay attention and vote 51 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.680 for Greg Lopez. No, thank you, Greg, thank you so much, 52 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:27.439 and I'm thrilled to be here. Thank you sincerely. This this is 53 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.520 what it's about. So, like everyone said, my name is Tricia Calvaries 54 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:31.879 and I'm from the district. I grew up here. I grew up in 55 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:37.240 Sterling and in Douglas County in Highlands Ranch. Actually when it was a ranch, 56 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:40.199 there were wild horses. And I was most recently in Washington, d 57 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:46.319 C. Working for a Trump appoint to help reshore American innovation, and then 58 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.039 a family emergency brought me home. Both of my parents did have cancer and 59 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.879 thankfully I could come home and provide end of life care and they did pass 60 00:03:55.360 --> 00:04:00.240 last fall, and thank you so much. But I'm so great, well 61 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:04.039 I could be there. I'm stepping up to run because so many families like 62 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:09.840 mine are these Sandwich generations. They have so many care obligations and it's so 63 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:14.680 difficult people understand. I'm from the district. My parents were both conservative, 64 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:18.680 they were Republican, and before he passed my dad told me step up and 65 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:23.240 you serve the community that raised you. So that's what I'm doing. Well, 66 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:27.360 thank you for that. And I really and I'm sure listeners appreciate how 67 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:31.439 professional you are toward each other. So this next question isn't meant to change 68 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:36.959 that. But why would you be better than your opponent for CD four, 69 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:42.720 Greg, Well, like I said, look, I've lived in Colorado thirty 70 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.240 six years. I've seen Colorado change. As you know, I ran for 71 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.879 governor and I had a great opportunity to work out or be out in the 72 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:55.199 Eastern Plains. I know the issues of water, I know the issues of 73 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:59.160 what's going on with the agricultural industry, and more importantly, I can relate 74 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:00.480 to them. You know, I don't come from money. I come from 75 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.399 humble beginnings. You know, my mom and dad grew up working in the 76 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:08.560 fields. My dad had a six grade education, never really truly learn how 77 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:11.879 to read and write, and my mom has a tenth grade education. But 78 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.079 one of the things that they taught us boys is that you know what, 79 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.879 you work hard, you surround yourself with good people. You know, you 80 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:20.560 listen to your elders and learn from them, and you can achieve the American 81 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:25.680 dream. And right now the American dream is vanishing. You know you just 82 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.399 heard some of the younger generation is really concerned about can we actually do this? 83 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:32.920 And so I have the wisdom. I understand the complexities of legislation. 84 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:38.519 I understand the complexities of the totality of the office, and I think that's 85 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:41.879 what makes me a better candidate. And Tsia, why would you be better? 86 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.560 Well, I'm actually part of that generation that, for the first time 87 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:48.839 in American history, has experienced the backside life from our parents. Right where 88 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:53.639 the economy we were promised, where if you work hard, you can rise 89 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:58.120 on your merit. That's not the reality right now. And I'm stepping up 90 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.480 to ron and I am the best representative for this district. There's no four 91 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.720 year university or college in all of CD four, So I'm fighting tooth and 92 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:09.519 nail for pathways into the middle class that don't necessarily need a four year degree, 93 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:13.079 that are in the industries of the future. And I'm coming from the 94 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.920 United States National Science Foundation. I understand what we're doing on AI, on 95 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:21.319 quantum, on these emerging industries, and I want to bring those investments here 96 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:27.160 to our district. I understand these technologies. I understand the stakes and again 97 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.319 I'm from that generation. Well, let's roll off of that into the energy 98 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.959 industry, obviously so important in Northern Colorado. Start with you this time, 99 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:39.879 Tritia. How do you view the energy industry in Northern Colorado and what legislation, 100 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:43.160 if any, would you pursue that pertains to that. I love this 101 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:46.319 question, Thank you so much for asking it. There is a very big 102 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:49.720 difference between something like, let's say, a coal company and a coal community. 103 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:54.600 I'm thrilled to say I'm endorsed by the United mind Workers of America because 104 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:58.399 I understand that there does need to be a transition to renewable energy to clean 105 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:02.160 energy. Right it's going to be on the backs of working people and working 106 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:06.800 communities. Pipelines can carry many things. They can carry natural gas, which 107 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:11.879 absolutely is part of the draw down strategy. We need to make sure that 108 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.920 our pipelines are clean, that they're preserved, and they do need to be 109 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:16.439 replaced. There's lots of leaks happening all over. There was, i think 110 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:21.800 recently in Northern Colorado, a huge explosion on a farm. But where we 111 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:27.360 need to make sure that there are workforce protections in place before we talk about 112 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.040 replacing energy of any kind, but what we're looking at right now, we 113 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:34.319 do need natural gas. It is part of the drawdown strategy. You know. 114 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:40.360 I'm glad you asked a question because CD four is a very complex district, 115 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:44.000 right twenty one counties. You got atoms, you got a rappa hole, 116 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.680 you got a larmer, you know, and there's a lot of people 117 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:50.639 that you will never be understanding AI and that type of higher education. You 118 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:56.319 know, there's no shame in working with your hands. There's no shame in, 119 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.199 you know, being a labor and doing the right thing. And when 120 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.079 it comes to energy. Look, I'm going to be there for six months, 121 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:05.279 so I know how to manage expectations and I know how to manage, 122 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:07.319 you know, the things that are coming. I for one, believe that 123 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:13.759 fossil fuels are important for our nation. If you look at how many products, 124 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.279 by products come out of fossil fuels, you know, it's important for 125 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:20.639 people to fully understand what that all means. You know. Alternative energy. 126 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:26.000 I think it's something that we probably should look into, but we got to 127 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.079 be careful how quickly we rush to it. You know, one of the 128 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:33.120 things that I see in Texas and other areas that these solar panels sometimes they 129 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:37.440 don't generate the energy that people say they should, but most people who truly 130 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.320 rely on fossil fuel, well, and thank you to both of you for 131 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.480 being so concise and precise. It really helps. And I know we'll deep 132 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.679 dive some of these issues as we move through this debate. When we come 133 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.879 back, we'll start with do we have a crisis at the southern border and 134 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:56.720 what should be done about that? You're on the Dan Capitla Show and now 135 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:01.000 back to the Dan Tapless Show podcast. Yes strong, Ryan, I thought 136 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.399 you were going to come back with Proud to be an American, right, 137 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.639 because there's that feel to this debate. It's a throwback. It's two people 138 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:13.799 very smart and confident in their positions who are willing to come in debate face 139 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:18.240 to face. Tricia Cavalese, who is the Democrat nominee for Congress in CD 140 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.480 four, Greg Lopez, and this has to do with the special election coming 141 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.519 up June twenty five. So we're now on segment two and the question we'll 142 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.080 throw it out there and we'll start with the Trisha Tricia, what should be 143 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.159 done with the Southern border. Do you consider it a crisis and if so, 144 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.840 what should be done about the southern border. Thank you so much for 145 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:41.840 that question. And I do want to point out that there was a resolution 146 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:43.840 in Congress that they voted on just the other day to call it a crisis. 147 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:48.960 And Lauren Bobert, who's also running from the seat in the primary for 148 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.840 the full term, she wasn't there to vote for it to call it a 149 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:58.039 crisis. She also voted no on a bipartisan border bill because Donald Trump told 150 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:05.120 her to. So I'm happy to work with anybody to actually secure our border. 151 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:09.320 We need comprehensive immigration reform. I want to look at it from our 152 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.399 values as Americans, right. Immigrants are a key part of our economy. 153 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:18.240 They work in our fields, they work in our meat packing plants. Part 154 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.639 of my own care team that took care of my parents, those were migrants 155 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:26.639 as well. We want pathways to citizenship for the people who are here and 156 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:31.639 have contributed to our economy and to our society. And from a labor perspective, 157 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.759 as long as there are people that you can exploit because of their documentation 158 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:39.960 status, it hurts every American worker. Now, the border is just part 159 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.399 of it. Here's the other thing I'm really worried about. In terms of 160 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.720 immigration. We're in a competition right now for STEM talent. It is urgent. 161 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:50.480 We want this to be the place that STEM talent wants to be. 162 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.559 We're talking about the world's best and brightest. And in fact, I was 163 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.840 just talking to an Indian immigrant the other day about how difficult it is to 164 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:03.039 get those visas for highly skilled workers. We need to expedite that and we 165 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.039 need to remain a place that is welcoming of the best and the brightest, 166 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.720 and that this is where they want to be, correct, you know, 167 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:15.240 Dan, it's there is a crisis. I mean, anybody that's watching the 168 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:18.600 national news will agree there's a crisis, you know. And the people that 169 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.480 are coming over right now, they're not these high educated individuals. There are 170 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.840 pathways for those through work visas and so forth. You know. But what 171 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:28.799 I'm seeing and here's what I want to do. And here's again, this 172 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:35.440 is a big dynamic contrast and difference is I'm looking to reintroduce the red card 173 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.720 Guess work program. I don't know if you're familiar with that or not, 174 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.320 but it was it was submitted to Congress back in two thousand and six. 175 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:48.120 And this again deals with those individuals that want to come to America to work, 176 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.000 but this is designed for them to be here legally. And you know, 177 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.720 I don't have time to go in all the details, but it's how 178 00:11:54.759 --> 00:12:00.480 do we solve problems, not just talking generalities about concepts. These are strong, 179 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.480 precise issues. For example, the other thing that I'm looking at is 180 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:09.000 we all know that the asylum seeker application process is broken. It's broken. 181 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.799 You know, there used to be a time where people were crossing the border 182 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:16.240 and they would run. Now they cross the border and wait to be apprehended. 183 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.039 Why because they're seeking asylum. And one of the things that is challenging 184 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:26.200 at the border is can we really ascertain if they're actually being fearful from their 185 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.799 own country And a lot of these people are jumping over countries. Right Mexico 186 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:33.799 is not doing anything to their people, and so we've got to look at 187 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.600 this. And so one of the things that I'm working with the people in 188 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.159 Congress already because I'm not waiting for June twenty fifth. I want to make 189 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.159 sure that we're there and we're going to be impactful. One is to look 190 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:48.080 at what it makes sense to do an eighteenth month moreitorium on the asylum seekers 191 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.720 application process until we fix it. But there's no doubt that we are currently 192 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.559 in a crisis in the border, and it's because people have lost sight of 193 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:01.080 what a nation needs to have, and that is a border. Let's do 194 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.360 it. A little follow up on this, because you guys know better than 195 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:05.039 I do. You're out there doing the hard work. This is one of 196 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.960 the very big things people are talking about all the time, right So a 197 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.039 Tricia starting with you, do you think that the border at this point should 198 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:18.200 simply be closed? And if not, what should that process for admission look 199 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.759 like? Absolutely, it needs to be orderly. We have a border and 200 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:26.879 there needs to be a process. I agree that we should close the amnesty 201 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.159 loophole. There needs to be more judges and they need to be able to 202 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.799 hear folks quicker. I think I looking at the root cause of this. 203 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.200 Why are so many people from South America right now at the border. And 204 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.759 I can't wait to you know, I'm looking forward to our next segment where 205 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:48.480 we talk about Ukraine. Because Vladimir Putin has stopped exporting fertilizer, systematically starving 206 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.240 the people of South and Central America. So one thing that we can look 207 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.960 at. Right, this is a little bit broader than strictly at the border, 208 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.200 but let's solve the root cause of these problems. We are the most 209 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:03.559 productive district, one of the most productive districts in the country, and we 210 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.639 could be doing even more we have. So we have fabulous farmland. Let's 211 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.879 grow more food and export it. Let's work with our allies in the South. 212 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:15.440 We want we want strong economic development there and here. We want we 213 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:18.799 want people to be able to find opportunities and decent jobs and dignity and an 214 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:26.480 ability to support their families wherever they are correct. Well, look, it's 215 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.399 clear that the border is no longer a border. When you talk to the 216 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.320 agents down there, they're already telling me, look, we're not even doing 217 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:37.759 what we're supposed to be doing. We're processors now. We no longer are 218 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:41.759 protecting the border. You know, when I was running for governor and talking 219 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:46.559 to people, I would tell in America's always had a border, It's always 220 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:48.840 had a wall. It was an invisible wall. They used to respect that, 221 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.519 you know, now they don't respect our invisible wall. And I think 222 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.440 it's time that we put a barrier, a visible barrier to remind people that, 223 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:01.279 look, there is a process by which we welcome you, but we 224 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.360 need you to be Americans. We need you to follow the rule of law. 225 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:05.840 It's not that we don't want you, we just want to make sure 226 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:11.399 that we do it correctly and until we have some strong voices, not this 227 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.320 you know, political back and forth. Well it's election year, let's do 228 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:18.799 it now. You know, this crisis has been going on for a while, 229 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.679 and so it's interesting to me that as we get closer to an election 230 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:24.440 cycle, all of a sudden, people are starting to say, well, 231 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.840 we need to find a solution. I think it's important that we again put 232 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:31.840 people over politics. Let's look at what's going on. Every state now is 233 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:37.240 a border state. You don't have to be in Texas. My family grew 234 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.240 up in the Rio Grand Valley. I truly understand what's happening at the border. 235 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:43.120 And a quick follow up for both of you, we have maybe a 236 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.559 minute before the break, and then in the next segment we will in fact 237 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:52.399 be talking about should the US fund Ukraine, Should the US support Israel taking 238 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:58.080 RAFA? But real quick take on this from you? Inflation? What could 239 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.440 be done through Congress to help relief people of what you both agree, I 240 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.360 think is a real crisis right now. Absolutely, price gouging is a big 241 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:08.039 piece of it. Right looking at our the conglomerates at the very top, 242 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:11.799 look at who's profiting off of it. Right, it's a it's a boon 243 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:17.879 for shareholders, but it's it's hurting everyday Americans. It's hurting the middle class. 244 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:23.960 So one price gouging. Two, undo the tax the tax Trump cuts 245 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:29.360 right or the very big the cuts. And then I would also say we 246 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:34.200 need to be investing in local economies like these local regional innovation hubs of bringing 247 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:37.679 it not because if you just throw money at it without creating the full ecosystem, 248 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:41.639 it's going to collapse. So there's already investments coming online in quantum and 249 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.919 in climate for the US, for Colorado specifically, quick take quik Yeah, 250 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:49.240 I agree that. I'm so happy she said we shouldn't throw money at this 251 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:53.799 right because that's what's happening right now. The federal government is throwing money at 252 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:57.600 all these so called issues because they believe money is going to solve them. 253 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:03.960 Dan when our national debt it's over thirty four trillion dollars that we really can't 254 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.519 afford. You know, you have to ask yourself, why is America a 255 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:12.039 government spending so much money? And it's the money in the system that's causing 256 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:15.000 a lot of this inflation. You know, is there a price scouging? 257 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:19.119 Who knows? You know, But do we really want the government to interfere 258 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:25.079 with small business and the capitalism that we have. I don't think so. 259 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:26.519 Well. Thank you, Greg, and hey, if you just joined us, 260 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:32.880 thank you something rare live face to face to beate Tricia Cavalresi the Democrat 261 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:37.079 versus Greg Lopez Republican special election CD four. When we come back, should 262 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.000 the US fund Ukraine? Eight five five four zero five eight two five five. 263 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.759 Now, if you have questions that you want us to pose to these 264 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:51.000 fine folks, Tech Sdan d An five seven seven three nine Ryan, anything 265 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:52.839 you want to throw in before the break. I just like that we're moving 266 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:56.200 along here in the times just about equals. So we're going to try to 267 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:00.400 get that back on track for the third of four segments coming right up and 268 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.359 again text in any questions you may have. And we've invited the candidates to 269 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.599 Hey, there's some topic I'm not bringing up. They want to bring up 270 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:11.000 feel free to. I mean, we just appreciate the fact they're here and 271 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.319 we have the chance to have this debate. And even if you're not in 272 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:17.160 CD four, don't care about CD four, and I think you should because 273 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:21.000 control of Congress could depend on it. These issues I think pertain to all 274 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:30.759 of us. Everywhere you're on the Dan Kapler Show, you're listening to the 275 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:37.640 Dan Kaplis Show podcast credit to Tricia CALVALRISI now, Trician, I've had it 276 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:41.599 right every time except this one. They're right all the time, say Calvary, 277 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:47.680 see Calvale, except the correct way to say your name is Calvary's correct. 278 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.680 Well, if you're Cavaret said, you're going to with a hand. 279 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:53.480 But they're both right, they're both But as a guy who's one hundred percent 280 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:57.000 Irish, I probably care Calvary's the Calvary's for you. That's the right, 281 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:04.000 excellent job should the DEM nominee in CD four and Greg Lopez the GOP nominee 282 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:08.000 and the special election. And so even if you don't care about CD four, 283 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:11.079 and I think you should, again because control of Congress may depend on 284 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:15.119 it. They're talking about the issues that mattered all of US no matter which 285 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.640 district we are in. So we covered a lot of ground in the first 286 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:26.960 segments. Let's now dive into should the US fund Ukraine? Greg your turn, 287 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:30.960 please go first on that. You know, it's interesting the whole dynamics 288 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:34.359 about funding Ukraine and the war with Russia. And yet when you look at 289 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:41.200 it, it seems like we're funding both wars, right because we're buying fuel 290 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.119 from Russia and we're engaging with them and so forth. I'm here to tell 291 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:48.319 you that I believe for now we need to have a stop on funding Ukraine. 292 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.519 I think we need to reevaluate what is it really a crisis for US? 293 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:57.200 And again, because we're thirty four trillion dollars in debt and people believe 294 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:03.279 that we America have of deep pockets that we should always be willing to just 295 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.400 write checks and so forth. I'm concerned about that, you know. And 296 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:08.079 so I think, you know what, when people talk about, well, 297 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:11.559 what about fertilizer and so forth, Well, you know what, why can't 298 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:15.240 we make that here in America? You know, why can't we provide that 299 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.279 as an industry? We've done it before. I just don't see why we 300 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.319 can't do it again. But I really am concerned as to how much we're 301 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:27.519 spending in these wars and for how long there is no end in sight. 302 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:32.759 You know, I was reading today that Putin really doesn't have an outplan, 303 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.079 you know, So what if he takes the capital of Ukraine? Does he 304 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:40.000 draw a line? Does he change the government? I think he's in a 305 00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:42.519 real box and he doesn't know how to get out of it. As a 306 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:47.720 person of Slavic origin mine of you know, I've got the Polish ancestry. 307 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.640 Putin must be stopped. I don't know what army, what NATO army in 308 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:56.079 Europe can stop Putin. And we know that he's not going to stop in 309 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:59.799 Ukraine. We know he'll go into poland it'll draw in a NATO conflict. 310 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:06.200 And there is no army in Europe ready to fight and defend itself against Vladimir 311 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:11.319 Putin. The Ukrainians have done an admirable job, and as our allies, 312 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:14.519 we need to step up and give them all of give them the arms. 313 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.720 That's good for our economy, right, we get to get rid of our 314 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.799 old stock and we get to build new things. We get to innovate in 315 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:26.480 the process as well. So send it, Send it today. Absolutely stand 316 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.119 by Ukraine, you know, to a head of that though, dan As 317 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:32.759 I hear it say, well, it's good for our economy because we're going 318 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:36.759 to rebuild our ammunition supply. Well, the only people that buy the ammunition 319 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:38.920 supply is the government, and the government is going to take that money from 320 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:42.839 the taxpayers, you know. And again we are thirty four twillion dollars in 321 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:48.359 debt, and so we have to be very careful on what decisions we're making 322 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.440 with the next generation's money. And just give you an idea. Look today, 323 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.640 thirty four point seven trillion dollars. If every citizen was to write a 324 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:02.079 check, it would cost them one hundred and three thousand dollars to get rid 325 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:06.599 of the debt. For the taxpayers, all the taxpayers, it would cost 326 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:10.400 two hundred and sixty seven thousand to take care of the debt. So we 327 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:14.880 cannot ignore the debt that we have. It's a nation, because it could 328 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.359 crush us in the future. Churchy, you honors absolutely. As part of 329 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.240 that generation, I want to live in a world where democracy is the global 330 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.880 world order. I think that if we don't step up and support Ukraine, 331 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:30.200 I think that sounds a very strong message to China, and I certainly don't 332 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.759 want them to be emboldened for a land war in Taiwan. So as a 333 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:40.359 as a country that values democratic principles, we must step up and defend our 334 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:44.319 democratic allies, and that's what we have to do in Ukraine. Absolutely, 335 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:51.039 let me extend this discussion now to Israel and Gazam. So at this point, 336 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:55.119 should Israel be allowed to take Rafa? I mean, assuming they do 337 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:57.920 so in the most humanitarian way possible, there still will be a lot of 338 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:03.599 casualties by the new nature of this war that Hamas started. But should Israel 339 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.640 be allowed to take Rafa? Let's start with you, Trisha on the I 340 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:11.519 want to pause and just say, you know, having lost my parents recently, 341 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.119 just the thought of and this was during the you know, the taking 342 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:19.920 of the hostages. Just the thought of to have a family member be held 343 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:22.640 and to not be able to touch them or talk to them or know if 344 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:27.079 they're okay. My heart breaks absolutely breaks for those families. At the same 345 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:34.839 time, seeing the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians in Gaza is incredibly disturbing. It's 346 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:40.039 and I think Biba Natanya, who is a strong man, so no I 347 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:45.319 do not think that we should support Biba in Rafa. What do you think 348 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.880 the US policy should be at this point with regard to Israel and the warrant 349 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:55.720 Gaza. I think we need to apply the lazy rule, apply the conditions 350 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.400 that are already on the books, and make sure that they meet the standards. 351 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.240 Correct, man, Let's not forget who started this whole conflict. It 352 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:10.799 wasn't Israel. Hamas was the one that attacked Israel. And you know when 353 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:15.000 you talk about families and you talk about the hostages that they took, the 354 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.960 people that they killed, you know, they invaded Israel at least attempted to, 355 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.359 you know, and so we have to remember who started this crisis. 356 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:30.160 And with what's going on right now in Palestine, Hamas is using the general 357 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.640 public as shields. You know, they used the hospitals, that was proven, 358 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:40.240 and so they're basically going and trying to use innocent people to protect themselves. 359 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:45.079 I think it's important for us to make sure or Israel to make sure 360 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.720 that that type of mindset does not exist, because if we allow it to 361 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:55.440 exist, then they're going to use all kinds of different tactics and more innocent 362 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.359 people are going to be killed. But you know, Israel's always telling them 363 00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:02.240 you know what we're coming. Please citizens, move out of the way, 364 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:07.319 please go somewhere else. They give them a warning. Hey, guys, 365 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:11.039 let me shift gears for a second. I note you hear the issue of 366 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:15.279 the abortion issue a lot on the campaign. Should Roe v. Wade be 367 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.839 codified or should the issue be left to the states. Who would like to 368 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.319 start in that, I'll throw out a jump ball. I think it needs 369 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.240 to be codified. I think it absolutely should be codified. I think when 370 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:32.240 there are blanket what we could potentially move towards a blanket ban, women are 371 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.359 going to die. I would like to share a personal story. I mean, 372 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.960 the year before I was born, my mom needed to have an a 373 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:44.599 topic pregnancy removed. It saved her life and it made mine possible the next 374 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:49.519 year. This was in rural Sterling. The thought of a national abortion ban 375 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:53.799 is terrifying to think of what is going to happen to women. What is 376 00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:59.720 already happening in the states where there are bands in rural America, there is 377 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:04.319 a crisis of maternity care. So codify wrote and yes, let's expand access 378 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:08.799 to reproductive care. Graig Well, I can tell you this. Look, 379 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.680 my record is clear. You know, I wear these little feet because I 380 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:17.920 protect life. I'm a strong supporter of life. You know, when you 381 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.920 look at what's going on with this whole issue, you have to ask yourself, 382 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:27.279 are we really focusing on the right issue, Because the termination of any 383 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:33.599 life by any means. I think we need to reevaluate our moral compass as 384 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.759 a nation. And so you know, my little sister, you know, 385 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.920 we all have examples. My little sister at the age of fifteen, got 386 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:45.640 pregnant, you know, and the discussion happened within the family that maybe should 387 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.359 get it, she should get an abortion because she was too young. But 388 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.200 the family finally realized, you know what, we need to come together. 389 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:56.519 We need to come together as a family and raise this child and support her. 390 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.400 And we did. There's so many nonprofits out there, there's so many 391 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:06.440 organizations that are wanting to help young women that aren't sure if they want to 392 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:10.279 have a child or not. You know, the foster care, the adoption, 393 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:14.160 there's so many options. Look, it's not easy to make a decision, 394 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:17.400 but we as a we must have a moral compass. And I think 395 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.519 that's really where I'm coming from. And when we come back. What we'll 396 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.640 do is will yes please? Chris. I would just say that I was 397 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.839 raised in a Catholic household. My family made it very clear if I was 398 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:32.079 ever pregnant, we would take care of the child and that would be our 399 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:36.559 decision. The point is that was our decision. So as kind as you 400 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:38.680 seem, I don't want you to have anything to do with the decisions that 401 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.960 I and my family make, but our care provider. I'm not looking to 402 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:47.119 make your decisions. I'm looking to help make decisions for those that can't speak 403 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:48.839 for themselves, well for other people. Right. I want to leave it 404 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.599 to the woman and to her family and her doctor, and I would like 405 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.440 to give it to the child. And I really wish we didn't have a 406 00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.960 break here, but we too, so we'll come back. Well can take 407 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.720 this. You're on the Dan Capla Show. And now back to the Dan 408 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:11.559 Kaplis Show podcast. A fantastic debate between Tricia Calvalry, she's the Democrat nominee 409 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.000 for Congress in CD four, and Greg Lopez, the GOP nominee Greg in 410 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.160 Greg's case for the special election, We've covered a lot of ground, a 411 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.319 lot of issues quickly. You can pick that up off the pod. But 412 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.319 as you might guess from Ryan's choice of music there, when we went to 413 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.400 break, we were talking about the life issue and whether Roe v. Wade 414 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:36.960 should be codified, and Tricia very adamantly and enthusiastically says yes, and Greg 415 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.400 just as powerfully says no. And then they discuss that issue before we get 416 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.000 into kind of an extended closing. Is there anything more either of you wanted 417 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.400 to say on that issue, because I know you were going at it pretty 418 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.480 good, and when we went to that hard break, well, you know, 419 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.960 I'll just sad. Look here in Colorado, you know, the people 420 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:59.920 have spoken, and I believe that the Tenth Amendment, which is a constitution 421 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.759 I'm a strong supporter of the Constitution, gives states that states right, you 422 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.279 know, for them to choose. But it's something that we even here in 423 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.240 Colorado, we need to reevaluate our moral compass anything you wanted to say, 424 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.519 CHRISA anymore in that I get a little bit nervous when we're going to use 425 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:21.559 other amendments from the Constitution to interpret what a woman can and not can't and 426 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:26.200 can't do right, because we saw that with ivf Right, where we want 427 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.359 to make sure that IVF remains legal, it remains accessible, and so again 428 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:37.079 I just want to emphasize the focus really should be on expanding access to care. 429 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.599 And you know, doctors also they take out loans. It takes a 430 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.680 lot to be a doctor. And just talking to you know, the friends 431 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:48.119 I have and folks who've worked very hard for that degree, who they wanted 432 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.680 to practice in rural and underserved areas and they're they're so terrified of a potential 433 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.599 abortion ban where they're having to you know, reconsider their choices of service. 434 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:02.160 And I don't think that's fair for doctors well either. Yeah, and don't 435 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:03.480 feel I mean, if anybody has anything to say, and you can say 436 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.000 it in your closings as well. Obviously if I was part of this debate, 437 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.079 I have some things to say. I'm just the traffic cop here, 438 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.559 but appreciate both of you being here. So we've got got two minutes for 439 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.839 each of you for wide open closings, So have at it. Trisha your 440 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.359 column, whether you want to go first or last, sure thing, I'll 441 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.200 go first. So I just thank you so much also for having me. 442 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:27.720 This was this was great. Thank you. Thank you Greg as well. 443 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:34.839 We are facing tremendous challenges. And this is also the era of AI. 444 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:41.480 And whichever country controlled this is Putin said this, whichever country controls AI, 445 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.319 controls the future. And I want to make sure that the United States is 446 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:52.519 leading and that we lead with our values. And that's why with my experience 447 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.279 at the National Science Foundation working for a Trump appointee, I'm going to do 448 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.799 everything I can to bring investments into districts and plays that have been overlooked and 449 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:07.799 left behind so that people, our next generation can get into stem careers and 450 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:12.000 pathways to make sure that we can out compete against China, that we can 451 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:17.480 lead the future, and that anybody who wants one can find an excellent job 452 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.759 and a path into the middle class that doesn't necessarily need a four year degree. 453 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:23.720 And I also just want to make it easier for people to be able 454 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.079 to take care of and spend time with their families. Well, thank you 455 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.400 and thank you for thank you so much. Greg. You know Dan the 456 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.359 city for special election, it's bigger than the district, It's bigger than Colorado. 457 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:42.200 This is truly about defending our founding principles to protect the republic. We 458 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.599 don't want government to be interfering with our daily lives. You know, we 459 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:52.160 don't want them to take us into a financial self destruction. And so I'm 460 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:57.839 here to tell you that the issues that we face today are not Republican issues. 461 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.839 They're not demark issues, they're not unaffiliated issues. These are people issues. 462 00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.359 And this is why I always put people over politics. We need to 463 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.440 fully understand that when you sit in these positions, it's not about looking at 464 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.000 how the winds are blowing. It's about being a statesman. It's about having 465 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:21.720 strong moral character, someone that can bring coalitions together, someone that can look 466 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:27.559 into the future and make sure that CD four is truly being represented. I 467 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:31.119 have the knowledge, I have the experience. I know how to lead with 468 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:37.039 a steady hand. The people of CD four are looking for strong leadership. 469 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.200 They want someone with a strong voice, someone that can actually represent them in 470 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.920 a manner by which they will feel their voices are being heard. And so 471 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:51.599 I would just encourage everyone in CD four, you know, vote for Greg 472 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.480 Lopez either before early or on the twenty fifth. But if you really want 473 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.559 to know more about me, you know, go to my website Greg Lopez 474 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.319 dot com. You'll find a lot more. And I say just just vote 475 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:05.680 for Greg Little Well, thank you and thank you for being here. Tricia, 476 00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.559 what's your website. It's Trisia for Colorado dot Com. T Ri I 477 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.799 saj the number four Colorado dot com. And I have to tell you, 478 00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:19.079 I think you both just represented tremendously well for your respective parties and I think 479 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.640 maybe some people feel better about politics, at least in the case of you 480 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.319 two. So just a great example of willingness to go head to head and 481 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.799 debate and the way you conducted it. And I'm sure and you've got two 482 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.720 more coming up, so folks will get every opportunity to hear and see and 483 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.519 measure both of you. So very grateful for that. Thank you, and 484 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:39.559 yes true and one of and if you go to Colorado for dot com. 485 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:43.640 Lauren Bobert, if you're listening, I'm happy to schedule a debate with you 486 00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.200 anytime. Then hopefully we can do it on KHO. Well, I would 487 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.759 love to do it right here, love to do it right here. And 488 00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.920 Congressoman Bobert, at least the Congressom Bobert. I no, does not duck 489 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.920 anybody anywhere, anytime. So both of you are welcome, and you know 490 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.400 and obviously she's involved in Rome Prime. We don't know who's going to come 491 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.799 out of that primary yet, but if she is the winner of it, 492 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.599 we would love to host that. Looking forward to thank you, Thank you 493 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:09.800 and Ryan, thank you for your great job. Kelly, you as well. 494 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.679 Hey, Tomorrow, big day in the Trump trial. The Court's going 495 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.719 to decide on some key jury instructions. I know it sounds boring, it 496 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.360 won't be. It may have a lot to do with how that case ends 497 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.440 up. So we'll dive into that much more tomorrow. Thank you for your 498 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.719 time today, Look forward tomorrow on The Dan Kapla Show.