1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Hey, This is Fred Green of Golf Smarter with our sixth installment of spring 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,880 Back into Golf season with the late Tony Manzoni. This episode was part two 3 00:00:10,919 --> 00:00:17,399 of our Conversation originally number four hundred and nine for members only from November twenty 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,000 thirteen. As with the last two weeks, this is another episode that we've 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:27,199 never included in previous years of honoring Tony's memory, So it's the first time. 6 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:31,039 Even if you were listening then and you weren't a member, it's the 7 00:00:31,079 --> 00:00:35,399 first time you're hearing it. His book, The Lost Fundamental is available on 8 00:00:35,439 --> 00:00:40,039 Amazon, and his DVD, which we converted to a private link online, 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,560 is also available when you write to me. For the most comprehensive information ever 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,439 collected on Tony, please go to golfsmarter dot com slash Tony, make sure 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,520 you use Tony in all lowercase, and if you'd like access to the video, 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:00,000 please write to me directly golf Smarter podcast at gmail dot com or click 13 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:04,359 on the Heyfred button when you visit golfsmarter dot com for members only. Golf 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:11,120 Smarter number four hundred and nine published on November five, twenty thirteen. A 15 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:15,959 Good Golfer's arms never passed the body with Tony Manzoni. This is Golf Smarter. 16 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:19,959 Welcome back to Golf Smarter for members only, Tony, Thank you, 17 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Fred, thank you again for sticking around and recording, forget the recording, 18 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,560 for sticking around and answering more of my questions. I just love it. 19 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Freds Oh, that's very kind of you. There's many things that you said 20 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:41,920 in our last conversation that I want to bring back and get more detail from 21 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,760 you out of that. Like when you talked about being under pressure and hooking 22 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,120 the ball. You said, when you were playing competitively when you were young, 23 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,239 whenever you were under pressure, you would hook the ball. Now forty 24 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:59,840 fifty years later and you look back on that, do you know what that 25 00:01:59,959 --> 00:02:05,040 was? Sure? I know what it was. You know, as I 26 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:09,400 got into learning to be more of a connected rotating or having a connected rotating 27 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:16,599 swing, I realized that the moving of the of the left arm and the 28 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,800 right arm for that matter, but the left round when you go back in 29 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,039 the backswing, no matter how you take it back to, your left round 30 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,240 goes somewhat across your chest, okay, and it connects somewhere near the left 31 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,960 arm pit and the right arm pit. So that's why you see a lot 32 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 of tour players will put a towel across their chest and then put their arms 33 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,960 on the top of the toe and hit shots that way. What they're doing, 34 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:40,360 you know, it's it's restrictive in a way, but they're teaching themselves 35 00:02:40,599 --> 00:02:45,560 that the body moves the arms. The arms will move off the body and 36 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,960 then back on the body. It's not to say that you can't do that, 37 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:52,080 and there have been some good players that did that, but I don't 38 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,759 think they had very long careers. Without naming a lot of guys, there's 39 00:02:54,759 --> 00:02:58,360 a lot of guys on the senior tour now that can't play a lit that 40 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:04,080 were champions on the regular and it's because their game was based on disconnecting and 41 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,199 connecting, swaying to the right and swaying to the left and so forth. 42 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:13,560 But in my in my swing, what I realize is that when my arms 43 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:20,520 get to an impact before my left side is cleared, then my because the 44 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:23,960 head is hairier than the handle, if you swing the arms away from the 45 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,719 body and just swing a golf club, you'll see that the club head turns 46 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:34,080 over prior to impact because because of the weight the weight of the handle way 47 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,680 to the head. The head weight will roll the clubhead. So these people 48 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:40,639 that try to teach people to roll the clubhead, if you just swing your 49 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:44,000 arms ahead of your body, it's gonna roll. If I want to hook 50 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,719 a ball around a corner, I just keep my back of the target and 51 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:50,319 throw my arm forward, and that clubcase is closed foot from the ball, 52 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,759 So I'm gonna I'm gonna snipe hook it. Okay, Well that's what I 53 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:57,520 did under pressure, Because under pressure we all get a little fast on the 54 00:03:57,599 --> 00:04:01,280 down. Can't help it, ok And I and realize that the faster my 55 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:06,639 arms went, the slower my body went, so they didn't correspond, and 56 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,719 they won't. You throw your arms ahead of your body, and there's a 57 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,079 saying the good golfer's arms never passed the body, never passed the body. 58 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:18,040 Now you say, wait a minute, I see the club, but it's 59 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,759 not because if you follow the turning of the body, the club is standing 60 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,920 in front of the body, but it's not going past it. So this 61 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:30,199 is how it works, real simple. You stand up to the ball. 62 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,000 I like you to set up sixty forty. You take the club back. 63 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:38,240 It goes across your chest and it connects somewhere high on the left tectoral muscle. 64 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:43,240 Okay, when you get to the top, instead of letting the arms 65 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,920 come free of the body and pulling the arms down, keep the position that 66 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,240 you have at the top and rotate your chest area. And now I'm not 67 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,120 going to say hips, because if you're on that left side, you don't 68 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:00,360 have to throw your legs first or any of that craziness. Unwine which wound 69 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:03,519 up, unline your chest and shoulders around your pivot leg, pulling your arm 70 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,279 through. And if you'll unwind properly, you'll be unwinding to the left, 71 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:11,959 just like on the backswing you had to unwind to the right. So when 72 00:05:11,959 --> 00:05:15,199 you unwind, your body's going to turn to the left. So when you 73 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:17,439 finish your golf swing, your right shoulder should be pulling at the target. 74 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,800 The center of your chest should be pointing quite a bit left of the target. 75 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,399 And if you watch the tour ladies or men's you'll see that that's how 76 00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:30,759 most of the players are finishing. No one's jilted back with high hands. 77 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,839 Everything is around because players are finding that's a more effective way to play. 78 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:39,839 So when we're connected and I mentioned that at the right arm. Sure, 79 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:45,120 because the right arm can't come loose and go out away from the body on 80 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,879 the dollswing because the elbow will be out of position. So that closed armpit 81 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,680 of the right side is just as important as a closed armpit on the left 82 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,600 side. So with both of them closed, the right with the right arm 83 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,040 does in the backswing is you turn right arm folds to a position and that's 84 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:04,279 your position. But that's how you get the club back. You don't do 85 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,680 it with your wrist. Cock. You do the arm fold, okay, 86 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,680 and it sets the wrist so that the club head or the chef, the 87 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:15,680 shaft in your left arm four form kind of an L position. Okay. 88 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:18,000 We don't want to V position. That's too much risk. Cock. We 89 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,920 want this L position the club. Your back is to the target. The 90 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:26,279 club looks three quarters and if you look at the tour today, you'll see 91 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,879 most everybody like that. You don't see that past parallel look except for a 92 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:33,560 few out there. And they have one commonality. They get wild with the 93 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:36,720 driver. They don't know if it's going right or left. Under pressure. 94 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,279 Okay. The ones that are compact, they're popping it in the center. 95 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,879 All the time Louis Lushaven just a bunch of them that are rotators. But 96 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,759 anyway, so we're at the top of the swing. The left arm is 97 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:53,720 connected high in the pectoral. The right arm you can be holding a handkerchief 98 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:57,040 under the armpit. The elbow is not touching the bot. It just the 99 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,720 armpit is closed. You just take that and you rotate to the left around 100 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,800 the pivot leg, which is your left leg if you're right handed, and 101 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,199 you just keep rotating and the club comes last. And it's kind of like 102 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,319 a hockey player. That the action of a hockey player with a stick to 103 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,040 a puck. It's a one piece action. It's not a throw of the 104 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:17,160 arms, is a rotation of the body. On my video you can see 105 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:23,519 that little exercise I do that makes you instantly feel this. And if there's 106 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:30,000 any one thing that you must do, it's fats. And Ben Hogan said, 107 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,680 you take all your natural instincts and do the opposite, you'll have a 108 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,879 pretty good golf swing. And he's absolutely right, because when the ball is 109 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,519 down on the ground and we've got the club in our hands, the tendency 110 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,120 for us is to hit down on that golf ball to throw those arms. 111 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:46,800 And we've been told hit down on the ball. If you have the club, 112 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,720 let's say a shoulder height, and you swing it to the other side, 113 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:54,360 the club has to come down to go up. So there's no need 114 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:57,160 to try to hit down because all you're going to do is you're going to 115 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:00,399 great tension and you're going to and you're going to get steeper than you should. 116 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:03,879 The swing has a shape to it. It's kind of a U shape, 117 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,120 so there is a bottom to it, but you don't need to do 118 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,240 anything to get there. It has to get there for it to go back 119 00:08:09,319 --> 00:08:13,399 up on the other side. So I never advocate hitting down on a golf 120 00:08:13,399 --> 00:08:16,639 ball because then you're thinking about impact too much. And then what we get 121 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:24,079 into anticipating impact, which causes a tension. And that's why all the beginners. 122 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:26,600 You see beginners top the ball and the guy says, you looked up, 123 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,360 okay, And then you got their their faces glued to the ground and 124 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:31,639 glued to the ball, and they still top it that you looked up. 125 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,320 That's such a bunch of beloging. It's just you tighten up and so when 126 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,879 you anticipate impact, you're grabbing that handle tighter. You're getting ready to hit 127 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,840 something. Okay, that shortens the muscle, pulls the club to the to 128 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:46,159 the center or top of the ball, and you roll it on the ground. 129 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:50,879 So when we're playing golf, and as I teach all my students, 130 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,279 I'm teaching you where your body is the relationship with that golf ball on the 131 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:56,519 back swinging on a through swing, and that body has to be on the 132 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,320 ball on the coil, and then the whole right side goes past the ball 133 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:05,320 on the through swing and the ball is in the way of that action. 134 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,080 If you focus on that back of that ball or hit down on that ball, 135 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,600 try to keep your head down on that ball. You're going to hit 136 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:13,879 a lot of shots behind the ball because when we start, when we put 137 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:16,679 that doll cell behind the ball, if we bring it right back to that 138 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,120 spot, we're going to go divot ball. And we don't want to do 139 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,279 that. We want to go ball divot. So there has to be a 140 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,480 forward and somewhere in that motion to hit the ball first and then take the 141 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,559 divot. That's the through motion. So when for all of you out there 142 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,919 that hit the ball thin or hit behind it, that's because you are behind 143 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,000 it. You're not supposed to be behind it when you hit it. It's 144 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,000 supposed to be moving through it. You're supposed to be on the left side. 145 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:45,519 So don't buy into that crap here all the time. Stay behind it, 146 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,000 keep your head back behind it. That's nuts. There's no sport that 147 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,200 you do that. You hit a tennis ball, you move forward. You 148 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,279 throw a punch, you move forward. You throw a baseball, you move 149 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,039 forward. You got to move forward. You got to move through it with 150 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,200 a Now I'm not saying that your heads go way forward, but it's not 151 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:03,080 the golf swing. If you rotate past that golf ball, that club has 152 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,559 come and last, and it's going to hit the ball with all the force 153 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,639 of your core. When you try to stay behind the ball, all you're 154 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,480 doing is sewing your arms foward of your body, which is the worst thing 155 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:15,360 you can do if you're going to try to not only hit it far, 156 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:22,840 but hit it straight. The golf swing is supposedly a circular like if you 157 00:10:22,919 --> 00:10:26,000 draw, If you follow the club head around, it's a circle correct around 158 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:28,159 your body. It's a rotational It's a rotational move. That's the only way 159 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:31,559 that our body moves. When you walk, you rotates, so it's a 160 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,039 rotation move in rotation doesn't mean straight back and straight through. That's why when 161 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:41,320 people say take the club straight back, you know that's really not that's really 162 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,720 not correct. Because the body's turning. The club has to stay in front 163 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,879 of you relative to where the body is. So when the body's turning, 164 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,840 if the club's in front of you, but it'll be inside the line of 165 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:54,240 the it'll be inside the ball. And is it must be. You can't 166 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,840 take the club back on the ball and swing it down the ball. And 167 00:10:56,879 --> 00:11:00,480 I hear that all the time. Oh yeah, he kept that club going 168 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:03,480 right down the ball and baloney, you can't do that. The club the 169 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:07,679 toe has to be turning because you're turning. Okay, you've got to trap 170 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:11,919 that golf ball. The more you push that club down the line, that 171 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,879 what's going to happen just out of the construction of the club, the neck, 172 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:18,000 because that's where the shaft is. The neck is going to lead that 173 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,240 club, and the toad is going to be back and you're going to hit 174 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:24,639 everything right you or slice the ball, and the blade's going to open up. 175 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:26,240 The more you push it straight back at the target, the more the 176 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,840 blade is going to open up. That club has to come back. You 177 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:33,440 know, the path of the swing is from square, it goes inside, 178 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,679 back to square, back to inside. So that's the shape of the golf 179 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:41,080 swing. And that's that's what your body is doing. It's like a hub 180 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,600 and a spoke. Your body is rotating and the club is rotating relative to 181 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:48,519 what your body is doing. That's why good players connect the arms of the 182 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,279 body and the arms move where the body takes them. They're not trying to 183 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,159 take the club back and put it in a position because it's then it becomes 184 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,440 disconnected to the body and then they've got to re routed the arms back to 185 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,759 where the elbow hits that inside of the hip area to hit the golf ball. 186 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:11,159 Oh well that can do that on a consistent basis. Am I making 187 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:22,639 you crazy? Yeah? Absolutely? Am I making you crazy? Yeah? 188 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,159 Absolutely? There's so much going on right now in my head. It's like 189 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:33,679 if I if you were in front of me and I set you up and 190 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,240 you had some idea of the golf thing. You've been playing a while, 191 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,399 okay, but you know I slice everything, all right, look everything or 192 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,320 whatever. I show you that when your arms go free of the body on 193 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,279 the downs and the club is either going to roll over or you're going to 194 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,759 hang on to it and it's going to stay open. And that's why you 195 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:52,679 can get up and hook one ball and then you guard the next one and 196 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:56,399 you pull it. Yeah. So when when you're when you're addressing the ball 197 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:03,799 and you're you're setting up with the ball with the club face, you're staring 198 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,639 at the ball, your club face is sitting just behind it when you're coming 199 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:13,039 So, but when you come through on your swing, that is not the 200 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,879 base of your swing, right, that's the base of it would be in 201 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:22,399 front of the ball, right, the bottom part of yours, the bottom 202 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:26,039 part of the swing would be you know when you're falling through because you want 203 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:26,759 to hit the ball and then hit the ground. Do you want to make 204 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:33,120 the divot after you hit the ball. Yes, Well, it's that turning 205 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:39,879 through impact that brings the club so that the ball is being struck on the 206 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,720 down swing, so it hits the ball, hits the turf when you're in 207 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:48,120 the proper position, just prior to impact. Okay, the club is coming 208 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:52,120 down, it strikes the ball and it takes a little bit of divot when 209 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,639 you get behind the ball. When you have too much weight on the right 210 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:56,039 side, it's trying to hit the golf ball. You're going to come down 211 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,720 in behind the ball. You're going to bring the club kinda where you would 212 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,039 have it to start with, so you're going to go dive it ball. 213 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:03,799 And that's how most people hit it. They take real deep to its, 214 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:07,159 and even when they hit a good shot, they still hit them a little 215 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:13,200 flabby because they're in the wrong position. They're behind the golf ball. If 216 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,519 you look at a picture at impact of a good player, you'll see that 217 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,480 his chest area is not in the same position he was at a dress like 218 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,600 some people try to say, get back to the dress. His left side 219 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:28,120 is open, it's turned to open, okay, and the right side is 220 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:31,360 now driving past the golf ball. If you look at it you want to 221 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,200 see a great swing, look at Anakis or Instant. That girl had more 222 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,600 birdies of two and three inches because she hit it so dead at the hole 223 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:43,960 because she was turning towards the target and the arms were being pulled, so 224 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,200 she was trapping at club dead square, so she unwolmed properly. The ball 225 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,720 went right where she unwelmed to and that's what we're looking for, to learn 226 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:54,440 to hit the ball without a lot of side spin. Now, when I 227 00:14:54,559 --> 00:15:00,279 want to cut it or draw it, I do it by me memory. 228 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,559 I just set up to the ball and feel like I'm going to do it. 229 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:05,919 But there is a process of doing it that I practiced for a lot 230 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:11,480 of hours as a young man. But I primarily hit the ball with very 231 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:15,720 little movement on it, especially with my irons. Because of this action, 232 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,200 I can remember in the past to hit it near the pin, I had 233 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,960 to aim at a club or two to the right of the of the green 234 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:26,320 and draw it in. I don't do that anymore. I can go hunt 235 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,679 pin hunting. Because of this action, I know I'm not going to put 236 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,720 very much side spin on the ball. Side's been coming from the club face 237 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:37,440 closing and opening an impact. That's all it is. I mean's not a 238 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,240 big secret. So when you swing a free arm swing that club is going 239 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,840 to roll. I mean, anybody that's listening to me, you know, 240 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,720 just think a golf club out and swing it with your arms a little bit 241 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:48,879 away from me, and you see that the weight of the club will turn 242 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,679 the club over, and it's going to turn it over. Generally before you 243 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:56,320 hit the golf ball, and then the next time, because you're scared of 244 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:58,519 the death that's going to happen, you're going to hang on to it tight, 245 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:00,159 so you're gonna hold the blade open. Neither one of them are any 246 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,960 good. You can't come off. So you've got to have a golf swing 247 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:08,279 that if it's it's tight as heck and you got trouble right and trouble left, 248 00:16:08,279 --> 00:16:11,720 that you can get up there and free swing and then know absolutely no 249 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,759 that you're not going to touch either bad area, that you're going to carve 250 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:19,559 it into the into the free into the fairway one way or another. You're 251 00:16:19,559 --> 00:16:23,279 gonna power slice it or a soft draw, but you're gonna put it in 252 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:26,720 the fairway. And I can still do that. I just can't, you 253 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:30,639 know, I just can't hit it far enough to really really compete. If 254 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:36,360 they put me up on that ladies teas or or old guys teas, I'll 255 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,600 play it with anybody. You just told me in the last episode that you're 256 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:42,159 hitting the ball to sixty five on your drives. What do you mean, 257 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:47,279 Yeah, that's short compared to what people hit it now. I mean, 258 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:55,840 I'm well, but if you're playing with twelve. They play blue cheese. 259 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,720 I play white cheese, and so I'm I'm at least a little bit up 260 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:03,679 with them, or sometimes it will pass them with the drive. You know, 261 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:07,039 when I created the Mixed Team Championship that was on television for what sixteen 262 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:14,079 years, what we did is we figured out what women would need. Professional 263 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,240 women would need to compete against men. They need seventy five yards because they 264 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:21,000 not only need a distance on the drive, but they needed on the second 265 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,759 shot so that they could hit into a par four a drive in seven or 266 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:30,920 eight iron because most men are hitting those kind of clubs. Prior to that, 267 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:33,799 Prior to that, the gals were playing the club. The course is 268 00:17:33,839 --> 00:17:37,160 so long that no one was reaching par fives and two, and they were 269 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,799 hitting long irons into par fours. And when we came up with this concept, 270 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:44,960 this is many many years ago, that tournament kind of changed the way 271 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,839 the girls perceived the golf course should be because a hard liner said, no, 272 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,400 no, you're making it too easy, and I said, look, 273 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,920 men are shooting nineteen or twenty hunder par every tournament the winners are, and 274 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,599 you're shooting six and seven. The perception then from the general public as well. 275 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:02,240 You're not playing as good because you're shooting higher scores, but you're playing 276 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:07,079 a lot tougher golf course. You know, they were set up like they 277 00:18:07,079 --> 00:18:08,920 would be. It was like setting up a men's golf course of seventy eight 278 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:12,319 hundred yards. That's the kind of golf. But the women played it for 279 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:17,400 a long time and we changed it. But we found that on the average 280 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:22,880 galop that that pops the ball out there, they need about seventy five yards 281 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,799 and then they can compete. Well, that's the same by going up. 282 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,119 You know when I go up on a tee, you know I go up 283 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,640 about thirty yards. Well that makes it that has thirty yards of my T 284 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:37,400 shirt. Now I'm in the game now. So in the history, we 285 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,960 don't play. We don't play championship teasy. Know you played to have a 286 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,599 good time, right, You played the white teas and it's like so proud. 287 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:47,920 Yeah, I'm proud to play the white play up. I mean, 288 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,759 I love it. If some sometimes I play with clients, they say, 289 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:52,960 well, look we're going to play the senior team. I love it. 290 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:56,160 Can't can't wait. You know, I don't have any ego about that. 291 00:18:56,319 --> 00:18:57,759 Good for you, because I know what my limitations are. But if you 292 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:00,880 put me one hundred and fifty yards of the green every every hole, I'm 293 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:08,119 going to make a lot of birdies. M in the history of golf, 294 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,920 are are different sets of teas a relatively new thing? No, no, 295 00:19:12,839 --> 00:19:18,400 no, they're always Most golf courses have ladies seas and men's seas, but 296 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,759 most golf course now, they're a lot. I've been on a lot of 297 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:25,039 golf courses where the ladies seats were twenty yards further than the men's. That's 298 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,960 just that's a joke, to be honest with you. They should be pretty 299 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:33,799 close to one hundred yards on every single hole for the ladies to enjoy the 300 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:37,440 game like men. Do you see gals out there with a driver on a 301 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,359 par three? Well, you you put guys, you make the par three 302 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,880 long enough before they have to hat drivers. You wouldn't see very many pars 303 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:48,920 okay, even at the big boys. So so, I mean it's just 304 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,519 that it becomes an whole resight. When people design golf courses, they design 305 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:56,960 them for the men, and they don't consider the cows. They put Okay, 306 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,920 put the red teas here, but they don't do it. They don't 307 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,799 mathematically based on how far the most of the gals hit it. So you 308 00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:07,759 know when the gals shoot break one hundred, they go crazy, they pop 309 00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:11,119 the champagne and give everybody a pin. That's a joke. If you put 310 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,319 them in the right place, they're going to be shooting in the eighties and 311 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:15,599 the good ones will get in the seventies. Well, when you say that 312 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,440 the courses are being when you say the courses are being designed for man, 313 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,640 I think that the courses being designed for PGA Tour events because they're just making 314 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,400 their courses longer and longer and longer, which is playing into their hands of 315 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,640 these guys who have who can hit the ball in my own half, and 316 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,440 they don't have the there's a perception, and it happens at our own valley 317 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,680 where they'll they'll build what they call the championship fee and they'll put them back 318 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,319 in the corner where they you know, the desire didn't even want them to 319 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,759 be okay, because they think that by doing that they're going to bring more 320 00:20:47,839 --> 00:20:52,119 members in. But typically these clubs, the membership is three hundred thousand. 321 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,039 Well, how many young people do you know that will plunk down three hundred 322 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,640 thousand dollars to join a club. So it's usually older, successful people that 323 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:06,359 don't hit it very far. So they make these teas so that they can, 324 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,039 so that they can say, well, ours is a seventy three hundred 325 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,640 or seventy four hundred rated course. Blah blah blah. Meaningless doesn't mean a 326 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,480 thing because nobody plays them right, you know, and it makes the game 327 00:21:17,559 --> 00:21:21,400 slow. And you get these you get these guys that are eighteen handicaps going 328 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,519 back there and they and they ruin the game for the people behind them. 329 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,599 I don't I'm not advocating that we put the teas up where you're on the 330 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,079 fringe of the green team off, but you've got to you've got to put 331 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,279 you know, we know there's a mean average of what your membership hits the 332 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:41,000 ball. We know what they hit it, and that's what the golf course 333 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:44,440 should be played from. And for ladies, you know, come on, 334 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:47,160 how many gals hit it on? How many gals hit it one hundred and 335 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,839 seventy five yards? Okay, so you can't put them on a three hundred 336 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,039 and seventy yard hole or a four hundred yard hole that's crazy. I mean, 337 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,880 they're they're beating the three with on a third shot. You know what 338 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:03,279 kind of fun is that. That's why I say I'm very sensitive to this 339 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,880 issue because I've worked with a lot of lady professionals in my life, and 340 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:15,759 I've given them zillion lessons to gals, and the big majority, I mean, 341 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,799 you know, eighty percent, you know, can't hit it two hundred 342 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,519 yards can't. Okay, So now they get on a golf poole that's three 343 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,000 ninety, you know. I mean, if they get on in two, 344 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,599 it's you know, they might have a heart attack. They shouldn't be that 345 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,160 way. They should be if they hit their good drive, they should have 346 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,559 some kind of an iron or a rescue club to hit, but some kind 347 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:45,000 of an iron. It's just it's it's unfairly set up. And again I 348 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:51,119 think it's the responsibility of a golf course and the management to understand these things 349 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,759 and then sit down and come up with an idea. Okay, what do 350 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:59,240 we think our gals hit the ball? And then plot out a hole so 351 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:03,920 that they can some kind of a mid iron into that green, and that's 352 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,079 what the tea should be, Okay, And then you'd see that the gals 353 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,960 have a lot more fun and the game, the game is more playable for 354 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:15,720 them as you look at the scores. I mean, you know, I 355 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,319 give lessons at a lot of clubs. They invite me there to teach, 356 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:19,519 and I every now and then there's a urnament. You look at the scores, 357 00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:22,039 one hundred and twenty, one hundred and fifteen, hundred and ten every 358 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,759 now and then you get somebody in the nineties, and that's the that's the 359 00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:29,200 field. And these are girls have been playing a long time, you know, 360 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,160 because they're older. Yeah, you get the you know, the young 361 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,480 members twenty one or twenty two or twenty three that married some guy. Well, 362 00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:37,720 some of those guys can play. They're fresh out of college and they 363 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,119 can pop the ball. But most of the girls are in the fifties and 364 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,720 the sixties where they going to hit the golf, you know, And a 365 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,759 lot of them, a lot of them were taught at that age because their 366 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,279 husband played golf and they were, come on, you got to learn, 367 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:56,359 we'll play golf together. That kind of stuff. Do you have the same 368 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,640 frustrations that I have when you go out and play with people, and they 369 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,759 especially and of course, they've not played to go, well, what's the 370 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:06,359 distance let's play from this team got sixty nine? They want into yards and 371 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,920 they don't look at the rating. Slow, Yeah, exactly. I know 372 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:17,799 that a lot of courses, even the men's let's just say the white teas 373 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,079 because they have so many different colors now, but let's say the back is 374 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,720 the blue cheese, in the middle is the white tees. A lot of 375 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:27,240 times the white teas are ten yards ahead of the blue teese, which is 376 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:33,119 crazy, it's ludicrous. But again there's no thinking done at the start of 377 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,279 every day when those tees are set. Someone should be setting them based on 378 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,160 what the club professional. You know that he set that golf course up for 379 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,359 the superintendent. You can't expect the superintendent and in most cases do not play 380 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,200 the game. And the superintendent's not setting the teases his workers who probably don't 381 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,720 play the game. So they just cut it down and put the team markers 382 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,480 there with no thought that somebody's got to play from here. So the golf 383 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:03,119 course, the golf course plays way beyond the slope rating the way harder right 384 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,279 right, And that's that's you know, we talk about slow play. That's 385 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,680 one of the reasons we have slow play because with the long iron on the 386 00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:15,880 third shot, it has nothing to do with their ability. It has to 387 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,160 do that it's too long. Yeah, people are playing from the wrong tees, 388 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:22,200 their egos getting the way, they slow down the pace of play, 389 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,160 they're they're scoring high numbers when they shouldn't be. It's just it's just this 390 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,359 endless cycle of garbage there, right, and it's rooting the game for a 391 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,920 lot of people, and it's costing. It's costing a lot of money because 392 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:37,880 you know, if you have a lot of slow play, you can't get 393 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,160 players on the golf course. But a lot of it goes back to management 394 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,240 in the planning of where those teas should be. There has to be calculations 395 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:51,640 made based on where you think the majority of people hit the golf ball so 396 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,319 that they can enjoy the sport. You know, when you're a successful man 397 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,559 and you've worked all your life, you don't want to play golf. It's 398 00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:00,759 beating the heck out of you all the time, and you're never going to 399 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,440 say this is too hard for me. No one wants to do that, 400 00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:07,480 you know, no one wants to admit to that. So what what what 401 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:11,359 management? Has to has to do is put them put that make that golf 402 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:17,599 course not not a sense of easy, but fair, not fair. If 403 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,519 you can't reach a part four and two, if you can hit the ball, 404 00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:22,920 let's say two hundred and ten yards, you should be able to You 405 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,160 should be able to hit that that green in two. Okay, So you 406 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,039 can't. You can't put a high handicap aro on a four hundred and seventy 407 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,240 yard hole or four hundred and sixty year old that's a part five for them. 408 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,759 And that's how. And that doesn't take away from the golf course being 409 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,839 a great course, because the greatness comes in the design. It doesn't come 410 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:48,160 in the length right right, because a short course, a short course can 411 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,119 be very punishing. Yeah, I mean, you know I've played course that 412 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,920 was sixty six hundred yards long. That'll give you a battle every time you 413 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960 play it. But it's it's because you have to be accurate. You have 414 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,440 hit the left, left the right, or right the left and those kinds 415 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,160 of things. But it's not because you can't reach the green. I mean, 416 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,640 that's just stupid golf. To me, that's stupid golf, it really 417 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,720 is. And unfortunately there's so much emphasis on distance today in today's world. 418 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,680 That you know, I get these kids at young ages and they're all they're 419 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,720 all swinging on of their shoes, and I say, what are you going 420 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:22,279 to do when you're playing a twenty yard fairway? I mean, you're done 421 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:30,279 so. So that's part and parcel of the problem we're exposed to. Everybody 422 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,599 hits at three thirty three, forty and some guy out there fifty years old. 423 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,359 You know, you feel impotent, for God's sakes, But it's it's 424 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,160 because we've been we've been soul a bill of goods. And the game is 425 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,640 never intended to be a driving contest, you know, it really wasn't. 426 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,319 It's a game of strategy. It's a game of ball placement. And to 427 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,920 me, I think they're ruining the game by making the courses longer and longer 428 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:03,079 and longer. For who I mean for who? Who? Who can seventy 429 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:06,400 three one hundred yards is a long golf course? Who plays it? Yeah? 430 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,359 Maybe a kid that beats it out there, but the average guy, 431 00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:15,319 man, I mean, you know you can't if you can't get home into 432 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,440 what the heck? You know, time and time again, I sometimes you 433 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,640 know there will be one of those holes out there that you say, oh, 434 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,960 well, this one, I just got to be hope'll be happy with 435 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:30,799 a bogie. But you can't do that for eighteen holes. Right. A 436 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:34,480 question about and now I know the obvious answer as well, because the club 437 00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:41,599 is longer, but is do you should you have a different swing, And 438 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,599 that's a loaded question with your driver versus your nine iron. No, it's 439 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,599 going to be it's gonna be flatter because the ball is farther away from you. 440 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:56,799 But no, conceptionally and feel wise, no. And the difficult part 441 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,599 is temple because we want to swing tow faster than we do a full swing, 442 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,519 let's say with an eight iron, and it shouldn't be it will. 443 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,599 The club will be moving faster because the swing is wider because the club is 444 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,079 longer, and the distance is going to be derived by that longer lever. 445 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,440 But you don't try to swing harder. I mean, one of the great 446 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,799 things I ever heard was Trevino was saying that, you know, he's the 447 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:19,920 one I played with Nicholas. He was so long. I didn't watch him 448 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,799 hit it. And he said, I used to try to hit it two 449 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,960 thirty eight, and I would hit it two seventy, but when I tried 450 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,160 to hit it two seventy, I hit it two thirty eight, which I 451 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,640 just thought, said, man, that mentioned me in the Bible, for 452 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,759 God's sakes. I mean, it was so absolutely correct. Because when you 453 00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:37,000 attempt to try to hit the ball harder, your swing gets faster in the 454 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:41,279 backswing, shorter in the backswing, and tighter at impact. That's why a 455 00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:42,279 lot of times, you know, we have a shot and we think, 456 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,279 ah, that's a six ron, but I'm going to hit an easy five 457 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,119 iron, and we fly the green. We say, what the heck I 458 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,319 hit that. I've hit that fire iron way farther than because you relax and 459 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:55,920 you let yourself get that club all the way back and all the way through 460 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,200 because you weren't trying to hit it. You just want he swung the club. 461 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,119 There's a lot to that, you know, And and unfortunately we get 462 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,160 that driver and our hand all of a sudden you see their jaws tightening up. 463 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,359 And that's not it wasn't intended that. What I tell my boys, 464 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,960 the driver is a placement club, not a distance club. It's the place. 465 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,039 It's a club to place the ball in the fairway where you've got a 466 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:22,799 good angle to the green. That's all it is. Don't buy into you've 467 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,240 got to hit a three fifty or three forty or three thirty or any of 468 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,000 those numbers. Let that happen. Fine. If you can do that, 469 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:32,000 fine, but you don't try to make it happen because you're just going to 470 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,160 you're gonna get handsy, you're gonna get your arms ahead of your body, 471 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,119 and you're gonna hit it all over the place. And you know, without 472 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,599 naming guys on tour, there's a couple of guys that win a tournament. 473 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,319 The next week, you know they're at the very bottom because they're all over 474 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,680 the place. So when they're timing that big swing, they're okay, but 475 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,279 they can't do it every week. And then you got the same guys in 476 00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,039 the middle of the pack every single week, and then every now and then 477 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,680 then they break through. But when they don't win, they don't drop to 478 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,119 the very bottom. They're always up in contention. And those are the guys 479 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:02,880 that are in control of that club hit. They're not out there trying to 480 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,599 hit it three fifty right now, that's an excellent point. Pick a spot 481 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:10,759 in the fairway and get there don't and be fair to yourself. Don't try 482 00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:14,079 to crush it. Just try to get to your spot. Yeah, all 483 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:15,440 you're trying to do is set the whole up. That's what the driver does, 484 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,319 is sets the whole up for the next shot. Put it a little 485 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,599 bit on the left center of the fairway so you're coming in at the right 486 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,839 angle. You're not hitting over a bunk or whatever. I mean. Hogan 487 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,200 looked at the faraway and quadrants, and you picked out a quadrant and put 488 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,960 it there. Now, you know he was pretty special about hitting the golf 489 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,039 ball. But if you've cut everything, then get over to the far right 490 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,240 of the tee and aim it to the far left of the fairway and let 491 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,599 it cut back into the fairway. That's why you're using the whole ferway. 492 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,960 Aim it to the right edge of the fairway and let your draw working into 493 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,599 the fairway. Now you're using the whole fairway. What a lot of people 494 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,440 do. They stand in the middle of the tee and they hit it. 495 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,039 They're trying to hit it right straight down the middle. So if they push 496 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,000 it, it's going off the ferry. If they pull it, it's going 497 00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:57,400 off the ferry. Because they're only using half of the fairway. You understand 498 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,079 what I mean by that, Yeah, and so we In most cases, 499 00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:05,640 you don't stand in the middle of the tee. You either stand on the 500 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,039 left side or the right side, based on the shape, on the shape 501 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,799 of your of your drive. You know, I hit a little cut, 502 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,880 some people hit a little draw, or if my typical shot cuts or my 503 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,400 typical shot draws, and then I'll play that with the driver. I'm gonna, 504 00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:24,440 I'm gonna, I'm gonna position myself on the tee to take advantage of 505 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,400 the whole pharaweh instead of half of it. So early on in the last 506 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,680 episode when we were talking about you know that everybody's swing is unique, and 507 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,599 it's you know, it's really all about being square at contact. Correct. 508 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:46,240 That's correct, okay, And so there is no perfect swing, is this 509 00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:53,240 what we're saying. Absolutely, that's not possible. That's why fairways are forty 510 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,920 to fifty yards wide and so forth, because there always is going to be 511 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,680 a little variance of impact at open, a little closed. The more connected 512 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,599 and the more rotational you are in your golf swing, the more that you're 513 00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:09,319 going to bring the club fairly consistently to the ball and you're going to you'll 514 00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:13,359 know where the clubhead is. That's a big key is knowing where the club 515 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,759 hit is. So if you're rolling your forearms over trying to hit a golf 516 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:20,079 ball, there's no way to know to feel where it is, you know, 517 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,880 But when you're when you're rotating your body and that's pulling the arms, 518 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,759 and the arms are connected with the body, then the arms feel like a 519 00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:30,119 lever connected to a gear, and as you turn the lever, the lever 520 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,880 move moves forward, so you're never swinging your arms freely. All this stuff 521 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,720 about a free arms swing it should be in the comic books because it isn't 522 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:44,839 reality. The freer you arm swing, the more the clubhead has a chance 523 00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,039 to be open or closed. We don't want that. Well, Tony, 524 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:53,160 once again, you've been a wealth of information. I so enjoy speaking with 525 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,359 you. Thank you so much for your time to these last two episodes. 526 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,119 And again, people, is Tony intrigues you at all. There's a lot 527 00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:06,680 of calls to action that we've gone through. One is make sure that you 528 00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:09,320 check out the video the Golf Smarter TV, the video that we did together, 529 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,360 because it's going to teach you a lot in a short amount of time. 530 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,480 Well, Fred, I'd like to just close with one thing please, 531 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,079 for the people out there that have listened to this, you know there's a 532 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:24,159 lot of pontificating going on, but if you really want to get into this 533 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:30,039 game, find someone that really understands rotation and connection. If they're not using 534 00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:35,119 those words to you and trying to get you to hoist the club up the 535 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,239 air and then bring it down, you know, just run. Find somebody, 536 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,280 just like going to a doctor, find somebody that understands the simplicity of 537 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,920 the golf swing. It isn't rocket science. It's really kind of simpliictic once 538 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,599 you connect all the parts and then just move them in a rotational move. 539 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,480 If you find someone like that and that's patient, you're going to grow in 540 00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:59,880 the game and you're going to start enjoying the game. And then go to 541 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,920 a golf pro if you belong to a club, and tell them a little 542 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,800 bit about why don't we set this golf course up based on what the average 543 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,400 guy hits it off the tee and I think your membership will be very happy 544 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,559 and you don't have to say we're moving it up. Just put the tea 545 00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:19,599 in a place where where common sense warrants it. And boy, I'll tell 546 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,079 you what, the game will be enjoyable for everybody at that club. And 547 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:25,039 you can make the golf course hard, you can narrow the fairways with roughs, 548 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,760 you can put the pin in the funny positions, so you don't have 549 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,079 to worry about to being tough enough