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Thanks for listening and see you next
time. Hello, and welcome to Coaches

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to Now the Bite Sized podcast where
we discuss one topic around coaching. I'm

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your host Jamie and today I'm joined
by coach Elizabeth and our topic today is

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coachability. Coach Elizabeth has spent over
two decades quote coaching unquote training developing leaders

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at well known brands such as Nike
and Anthropology and others before coming a full

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time executive and wellness coach. Her
corporate career has given her first hand experience

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as to what it is like to
actually be a coachy and be on the

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other side of an engagement, and
like many of her clients, she wears

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many hats, including wife, stepmom
and durrance athlete, yogi manation teacher,

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and world traveler. Her clients are
those seeking to align their lifestyle and professional

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goals with their values, and she
helps both individuals and teens identify what those

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values are put them into action in
order to achieve cohesion, collaboration, and

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inclusivity. She also specializes in organizational
change, purpose, communication, presentation,

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and executive presence. So thank you
Coach Elizabeth for joining me here today,

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and we're going to start off with
the fundamental premise that I have often believed,

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which is that everyone is coachable.
But the question really is is that

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true? Are they? And part
of this question came out of this conversation

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I had with another coach who told
me that less than ten percent of people

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are actually coachable. So I'm excited
for today's discussion. I'm just excited for

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your insight around this topic. But
why don't we start by defining what we

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need by coachability, what it is
and what it isn't. Okay, wonderful,

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Thank you, Jamie. I'm so
thrilled to be here. Thank you

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for having me and what an important
topic. The basis of being a coach

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is working with people who are in
fact coachable. You know, I tell

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you that the answer probably is subjective, you know, it's an opinion whether

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or not somebody is coachable or not. My belief and my premise, however,

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is that a few things need to
be aligned to determine if someone is

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coachable. Everybody has the ability to
be coached, but I believe that people,

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places, and things need to be
aligned at the right time for it

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to really be a stellar fit.
So people, the person, the coaching,

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the client needs to show up ready
to in fact in the process.

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But compatibility needs to be there with
their coach. So the people factor,

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the people relationship is very inagural,
the part it's a partnership, it's a

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one on one partnership between coachy and
coach, and so compatibility, the ability

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for the coach to be a trusted
guide and a thought partner for that coaching

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is of paramount importance. Places place
Does the coaching have the right place in

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their life? Are they ready and
equipped to dive into certain focuses. Are

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they in a life place to make
the effort to do the progress and to

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do some self discovery about themselves?
And then things? People, places and

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things are the focuses, the objectives, the intentions, and the goals that

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they have aligned with where they are
in their place in life professionally or personally,

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and with that coach that they're working
with. So people, places and

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things are really important, and willingness
is a key factor as well. Great,

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thank you so much for that.
I'm like this idea that there's three

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factors that contribute to whether somebody is
coachable or not coachable. What do you

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find is the biggest challenge to somebody's
coachability. Is it the people, is

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it the place or is it the
things? Yeah? And you know,

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I go from people, places in
things, and I break it down to

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an acronym that I really like to
use, and I think this will answer

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your question. And if we take
the word coach ability and I look at

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the word coach, coacch let's talk
through those letters because I think this will

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really provide insight for anybody thinking about
exploring being coached, just pecially if they're

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first time coaching. And I'll pause
by saying, coaching covers a great gamut

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of different types of coachingice coaching,
leadership and business coaching. That's executive coaching.

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That's what I specialize in. Relationship
coaching, communication coaching, wellness,

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health, nutrition coaching, et cetera. But regardless of the focus of the

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type of coaching somebody is engaging in, they need to be curious. So

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the see from coach is curiosity.
Is that person willing to have a beginner's

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mind. Are they ready to be
open and to learn new things, not

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specifically learning from the coach, but
learning about themselves. So that curiosity factor

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is really key in my experience with
coaches. They need to be open.

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Are they open minded? Are they
open to outcome that will come about during

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the process rather than being very attached
to outcomes. Sometimes I work with a

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coachy who says, Hey, Elizabeth, I want to dive into this one

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specific focus and I want you to
help me get from point A to point

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B, and I want to tell
you how I want to get there.

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And the openness to allowing the path
to unfold naturally is really important that organic

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process. So openness is key.
The coaching needs to be available and accountable

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both, So that's my a in
the acronym coach. They need to be

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accountable to the process and really doing
some you know, potentially after work following

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a session, which allows them to
do some reflection. Sometimes there are some

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light exercises that may be talked about, but really being accountable to moving the

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ball along during the process and making
time for it. Typically coaching sessions have

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some kind of cadence, a predetermined
cadence, and so being available at that

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set time to work with your coach
is key. Commitment, of course,

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is important as well. I talked
about compatibility between the two people, but

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commitment to the overall journey is key. And then honesty are you honestly ready

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and willing to make this a part
of your personal journey, be it for

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professional growth or personal growth. So
to answer your question, what is the

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most challenging you know, what sometimes
is the hurdle or the roadblock that I

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find it typically is the willingness and
accountability to committing to the process. I

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believe that coaches come to a coach
because they have some interest. There's something

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that has sparked a desire to grow, to transform, to evolve in their

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personal or professional life, and so
that seed of inquiry is there in the

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coaching. Hence they seek out a
coach. But once they start to open

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up and do the work and perhaps
discover some things about themselves, they establish

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their own roadblock and halt and say, hey, maybe I'm not ready for

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this journey. So that is,
you know, sort of the accountability and

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the timing and being available in that
in that place. Thank you for that

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explanation. I always love an acronyms
for describing, you know, different concept

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different ideas, which makes them much
more memorable. In terms of thinking about

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willingness and accountability. Have you ever
been engaged with a client where you felt

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like that was their roadblock, but
then they were actually able to get through

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it because you know, we all
know you meet a coach, you have

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a discovery session, an introductory session
which doesn't cost you anything more than your

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time, and it's a getting to
know you period, and then the first

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couple of sessions are really critical.
Is it with that within those first we'll

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say two to three sessions that you
can that it's possible to turn around and

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become basically overcome unwillingness or overcome accountability. There is absolutely and I believe that

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the spark that sort of aha moment
that a coache or a client may may

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have comes from certainly the dynamic between
the coachy and their coach, because again,

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this is a very intimate partnership.
You know, we work one on

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one with one another. There is
a lot of vulnerability. There is openness

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to the past, talking about things
that have been experiences or you know,

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other other paths that they've gone down, and then where they want to go

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in the future and being really honest
and willing to explore that with a coach

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requires vulnerability. So I find that
in that sort of fit test, that

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meet and greet that happens in the
beginning or in the first couple of sessions.

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As you mentioned, sparks can happen
organically where coach says, oh,

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my goodness, you just asked me
a question, or we started to discuss

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a topic that I wasn't even planning
on, you know, journeying with you,

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but it gives me great pause to
explore that. And so the organic

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nature of how a coaching engagement can
start is typically what shifts in a person

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that makes them more accountable and more
willing and more interested. So that goes

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back to that first see in the
coach acronym, which is curiosity really being

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open and curious to do the self
discovery m So it sounds like, you

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know, even if somebody is interested
but maybe not not sure the timing is

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right. You know, it's always
worth at least two to three sessions to

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draw to give your yourself the opportunity
to be drawn in. And if the

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time is not right, then it's
not right right and then you can pull

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the plug or say, you know, I need to put pause or whatever.

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But ultimately you know it's not going
to be always instantaneous, so sometimes

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you have to give your self time. As the coachy to get into the

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process. That's right, that's right. I think for the process to be

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effective and to really bring value to
the coaching, because that's what we do

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as coaches. We are service providers, we are servant leaders, really intending

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to bring great value to the client, to the coaching of their time,

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of their of their money, of
their investment. So in order to do

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that, coming into the process,
you know, I would I would recommend

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to any coachee who's considering hiring a
coach, what is the purpose and what

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is the passion that you have?
It's that simple. Is there a clarity

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of purpose? Is there a definition
or a refinement of purpose that you're looking

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for? And do you have passion
around it? Is your head open,

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is your heart open? Are you
willing to take that journey? So I

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say, you know, are you
coming into define or refine something about your

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life? Define or refine a purpose
that you may have a clarity that you're

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looking for. Are you looking to
inform or transform something in your life or

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some part of your journey again personally
or professionally. Thank you for that explanation.

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We have time for one more question, and I just want to know

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have you ever been engaged with a
client that wasn't ready and how do you

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how do you as the coach now
and did the coaching now? Yeah,

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that's a great question. The answer
is yes. I will also say that

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I have been a coaching who was
not ready for the process, and personally,

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it was the very first executive coach
that was offered to me, and

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at the time, I felt like
they were assigned to me, and I

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felt like it was you know,
punitive rather than additive in my senior role

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in my career, and because I
didn't really take the time to understand what

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an investment was being made, the
investment that was being made in me to

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grow my scope of responsibility and my
scope of learning about myself as a leader,

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to transform me and it was an
amazing gift. But in the beginning,

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I wasn't ready because I just didn't
understand the opportunity and the gift that

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having a coach would give to me. For myself, I have had a

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few coaches come to me interested in
growing, interested in learning a little bit

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more about a process of working with
a coach versus a therapist or a counselor

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or other related service providers. And
the issue really became a lack of clarity

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around where they wanted to go with
the process, and they wanted to be

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led and told and almost advised more
than being invested themselves to do the work

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and do the reflection and to really
show up to sessions and show up to

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engagements with their own investment in topic
and content and setting goals and intentions for

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themselves. So I think if you
can align with the coaching what their purpose

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is and their passion to the process, it really helps inform them that,

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oh, I have an accountability to
this and I want to do this,

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and so the desire needs to be
there. Again, going back to willingness,

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I think the person being really willing
to show up in a one on

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one partnership and not just be led
and actually lead itself through the journey is

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important. Yeah, it sounds like
sort of that willingness piece is really about

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an emotional investment into your own success. It is. It is it's saying,

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you know, I have a coach
that I have a compatibility with.

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So we've done the fit test,
we've done the meet and greet, and

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we have a compatibility as people.
But then the place that I am in

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my life am I willing to invest
my time and my thought, and my

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heart and my head into this,
being open to outcomes, not attached to

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a specific end result, as I
said, and then really using the coach

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as a thought partner and a trusted
guide, a confidant, you know,

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and the confidant that they may not
have elsewhere in their life personally or professionally,

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to to grow and to pivot and
to transform. Thank you. That's

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a wonderful note to end on.
I've greatly enjoyed our conversation today, Coach

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Elizabeth uh and it's hard to imagine
you not being compatible with every coach EU

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that you that you come across to
our audience. If you were. If

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you're interested in learning more about Coach
Elizabeth, I would like to work with

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Coach Elizabeth. Please check out her
profile on theidms dot com and thank you

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so much for joining us today.
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