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Yes, yes, I know aka 18 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:37.159 Survivor Man and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Honesty. Hey there, welcome 19 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:41.239 back to Sasquatch Odds. Thank you so much for clicking play. It is 20 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:45.040 Wednesday. I hope you're having your bride. We have an amazing show lined 21 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.719 up for you. But as always, I want to start by fighting. 22 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.480 If you've had an encounter and you'd like to pick on the show, shoot 23 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.200 me an email. You can get me a Brian Appairworldproductions dot com and head 24 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.120 over to the website. Check it out, can remember there and help support 25 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.560 the show. I got to sit down recently and talk to Kyle to Shane. 26 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:04.840 Kyle's been on the show before, but as you know, he was 27 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.599 with me on my trip to Radium up in BC, Canada last October, 28 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:13.719 and he had a couple of experiences the year before that when he was out 29 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.840 there alone that I brought Kyle back to tell you about. I think you're 30 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.599 really going to enjoy this. But we'll get into all of that in just 31 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.439 a second. I am fresh off the Ohio Bigfoot Conference. I just got 32 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.800 back a couple of days ago. Had an amazing time out there, hanging 33 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:30.639 out with Cliff Bergman, Matt Pruitt, doctor Jeff Meldrum, Darby Orcutt, 34 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:37.560 Adam Davies, Doug Hicheck, the legendary Don Keating was there, all kinds 35 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.800 of amazing people that I met. Mark Derwerth is the one who puts on 36 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:43.560 that conference. He does a fantastic job. So if you've never been to 37 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.800 the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, I highly recommend it. I got to hang out 38 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:51.120 with Cliff on Saturday and we sold a ton of books there, but I 39 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.960 did have him sign a limited number of those books and I brought those back, 40 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:58.199 so we have those available on the website. If you guys are interested 41 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:01.120 in those, head over to Paranormal World Production check out the store button at 42 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:05.560 the top of the page there and you can get in on the limited edition 43 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.400 autographed copies of Sasquatch Unleashed the Truth Behind the Legend Mind new book. Cliff 44 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.479 and I both signed those books, so if you want one, get them 45 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:15.960 before they're gone. They're not going to last very long. But enough of 46 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:19.319 that, I know you guys are ready to get into it. Kyle's on 47 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.599 the line, He's ready to go. All this love for you to do 48 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:46.800 is sit back, relax, end, enjoy the show. I want to 49 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.120 welcome our guest of the show. It is Kyle from Florida. Welcome to 50 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:53.240 the show, Man O Company. Good to see you. I'm hanging in 51 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:55.240 like a hair in a biscuit, you know, me, always doing something, 52 00:03:55.319 --> 00:04:00.439 always busy, always talking bigfoot. I had a phenomenal conversation with your 53 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.039 dad earlier today. We had him on at five for his interview and got 54 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.360 through his encounter. I've of course shared it. I took the video when 55 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:09.840 we were up in radium, but that's the first time I actually got to 56 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.719 sit down face to face with him and let him share it on the show. 57 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.040 I was really excited to get to talk to Richard again and relive some 58 00:04:15.079 --> 00:04:18.120 of the things that you and I are going to relive because we were up 59 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:23.240 in radium together in October of last year. You were an integral part. 60 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.639 If it hadn't been for you, I wouldn't have been up there, honestly, 61 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:29.079 and you were the one that twisted the knife and really got me to 62 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:30.800 commit to the trip. So I have you to thank for that. I 63 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.360 had a blast, man, it was an awesome trip. So let's talk 64 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.160 a little bit about that. We're going to get into. You had an 65 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:41.399 experience there the prior you You and I haven't had a chance to talk about 66 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:44.240 that. You've told me a little bit about that, But why don't you 67 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.319 set the scene and paint the picture for us. Take us back to obviously 68 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:51.040 you were in the radium area, but tell us about your experience that you 69 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:54.839 had. I guess at this point it had been what twenty twenty two? 70 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.680 Yeah, yep, one twenty two. Man, doesn't seem like it's up 71 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:00.879 far away. But at those same time, Yeah, So I was out 72 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.680 there by myself. I had one of our other expeditioners out there with me 73 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:09.839 for a couple of days of that feat Darren, super awesome guy. I 74 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.720 miss him. If you're watching this, shoot me a call. Love to 75 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.040 talk to you. So he came out and we did just like you and 76 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.399 I did, Brian, just hiked around and biked around and just got to 77 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:23.160 know each other because I didn't really know them all that well. So it 78 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:27.240 was really good to put a face to the voice because it was mostly phone 79 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.399 calls. Or through Todds YouTube channel or something like that, came out, 80 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.000 had a good time. He decided to leave my last day, so I 81 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:39.439 think it was like a Wednesday or Thursday. He left that morning. I 82 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:44.759 stayed behind because I had another day out there. Now how absolutely ridiculously out 83 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:48.600 there and how remote it is, I would buy myself nobody else, like 84 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:54.319 nobody. So he left I think nine or ten in the morning. I 85 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:58.319 just started packing up camp and stuff like that, and then I'm pretty sure 86 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:00.040 I don't remember quite what I did that day. I'm pretty sure I went 87 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.680 and got some firewood because I was like almost out and I needed one more 88 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:08.160 night to get through, and then I was leaving that following morning, so 89 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.399 I just rounded up the stuff that had been left out, got everything packed 90 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.319 up a little bit. I think I went for a bike ride in the 91 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:16.360 bar alley. I'm pretty sure I went down to Nippeca and just did some 92 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:21.000 ice bath stuff. That last day of like freedom to go do whatever I 93 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:25.360 wanted and not have to worry about the credit card bills coming up or anything 94 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:30.079 like that step final reset type thing. So yeah, later I made dinner. 95 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.519 Obviously got dark. It was about ten o'clock. At night. I 96 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:36.120 was already fixing to go to bed. I was out of firewood. I 97 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:41.160 was tired ten o'clock from kneeling by the end of the by the fire because 98 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:44.360 and I was actually getting a little bit chilly because the stars were out, 99 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.920 so kneeling there by the fire because it's only crackling and poppling. There's really 100 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.680 not much going on with it, maybe like a little flame. And I 101 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:55.639 had one pine branch left with the pine needles and stuff on it. With 102 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:58.480 that, like you throw some pine needles on it and sparkles and whatever, 103 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.279 and then it like lighted up and blows everything up. So I'm leave that 104 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.639 branch last in case I hear something and I'd like, I need to see 105 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.879 what's going on around me. I'll throw that on there. It'll lay up 106 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:11.319 the woods so like a safety net, not that it was going to do 107 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:14.079 me any good anyway, if anything was deciding to come after me. But 108 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.079 it was like ten o'clock, ten thirty, I'm kneeling down by the fire, 109 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.680 out of firewood. I'm just watching the fire. As soon as I 110 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:20.519 get up, I got to pack up, and I gotta get out of 111 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:23.439 here, and I got to drink back, and I'm just thinking about what 112 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:27.079 I'm doing the next day, like it's been quiet and that's been happening whatever. 113 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.639 It's just happy I got to come out here. And another the check 114 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:32.879 mark on the list. So another two weeks I've been out here, and 115 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.360 I heard in front of me a little bit to my right, just like 116 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:40.959 a snap, like a twig break or something like that, and I was 117 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.720 like it was weird, like pretty laid out. I don't really hear a 118 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:47.319 squirrels running around that late at night, maybe like an owl or something like 119 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:51.560 that. On't o mouse. So I just glanced up, and I wasn't 120 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:55.839 wearing my hat, but I just looked up. And whenever I look up, 121 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.680 I'm looking at the stars and stuff, and I just see this big 122 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.639 kind of glowing or I guess you could say. And it was actually like 123 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.439 reacting to the fire. So I could see the fire reflecting off of this 124 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.399 thing. And it's eight and a half nine maybe nine and a half fet 125 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.639 up there. I'm kneeling down, so it looks way higher, but it's 126 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.720 like behind this tree. So I'm like, the hell is that? So 127 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.279 just lean over because it's behind a tree. And then I saw the other 128 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.600 one, and I realized it with the eyes and blinked, and the fire 129 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.759 was reflecting off of the eyes, and he blinked together, and I was 130 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:33.399 like, oh, that's the savage pull the crafty's close because he's only fifty 131 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.960 feet away from me. Like I knew, I know this area. It's 132 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:39.879 right by base camp. It's right there. You saw it yourself, actually, 133 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.960 so I knew that tree was there, and I know that an owl 134 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.320 first off, an't come to a fire. Secondly, there's no branches on 135 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.240 that tree big enough to hold an owl with an eight inch wide icepan. 136 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.000 It ain't gonna be a moose or a bear or anything like that, and 137 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.000 moose don't have four fixing eyes. Anyway. I just looked back down at 138 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.399 the fire and I was like, whoa, okay, I started talked to 139 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.240 I was like, oh, it's up, dude. Oh my god, 140 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.120 you snuck up on me. You got me there, didn't hear you coming? 141 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.000 Thank you so much for doing it, Like this is awesome. So 142 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.240 like a glance back up at him and he's still looking at it, look 143 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.559 at the fire, still looking at me. I'm like I can partially see 144 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:18.960 like the outline of his head because you know, the I could see this 145 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.799 s guy in the background, So I'm just gonna keep talking to him, 146 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:24.000 just like, okay, yeah, I don't really know what to say. 147 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.399 I don't dare move because I don't want to get smacked with a rock or 148 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.480 something like that, because I know there's probably one like over there, and 149 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:33.639 there's another one watching me over there. And I had put apples up that 150 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.519 night too, because I wanted to swan to see if any think it was 151 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.399 gonna take him. The last night ended up nobody took anything. So I 152 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.240 looked down at the branch, the last pine branch that I had left, 153 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.039 and I was like, you know what, I'm right here. I have 154 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:50.120 to try it. He's still there. So I reached over and I snapped 155 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.639 like a couple things off, and I just talked at the fire, and 156 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.759 I just put my hands back in my pockets and I looked up and I 157 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:01.200 see like his eyes shifting back and forth and looking towards me and then back 158 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.440 to just I'm just looking at him split second because I don't want to make 159 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:07.960 too much eye contact with him. I don't know what's going to happen, 160 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.679 but I can tell that he's looking around, and what's he doing? See 161 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.600 if head moving. So the fire starts catching the pine needles and it starts 162 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.600 to popple and stuff. Oh my god, it was time so perfect. 163 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.840 Just before the fire like actually started to lighten up and illuminate the surrounding area, 164 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:30.639 I just heard and then two thugs and I looked up. Nothing there, 165 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.840 and then the fire lit up and I saw everything around me, and 166 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.000 I was like, oh my god. He sounded so disappointed that I did 167 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.799 then, but yeah, so I played up for a little bit later after 168 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.519 that, But to me, it was just like that was like the finale. 169 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.480 I'm cool with that. I'm going to bed now. And I slept 170 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.320 like a baby. But I always get that question too, is what'd you 171 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:52.519 feel? You must have been scared. Yeah, but I've also been around 172 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.840 him enough that I didn't feel that I felt completely at peace. It was 173 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.559 just I was more so shocked than anything else. Oh my god, they 174 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.039 liked me enough to come in this close. Holy crap. That was more 175 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.879 so a compliment to me than anything else. One of the things that your 176 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:13.440 dad and I didn't really get into earlier was we talked a lot about the 177 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.960 experiences that we had together up in October last year, and one of the 178 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.120 things that we didn't really talk about that we probably should have. I've talked 179 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.879 about it a little bit and relaying my experiences on the show and talking to 180 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.960 other people on other podcasts. Is the rock throwing or the what we thought 181 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.879 at the time. Todd thought it was pot and cones being thrown. We 182 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:39.080 didn't really find anything, but I distinctly know there was something throwing rocks, 183 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.200 is what my impression when we were sitting around the fire that night. Is 184 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.720 that something that people have experienced up there before or was that something new to 185 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:50.120 base camp. No, they've done that. I've had a rock thrown at 186 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.919 me when I was with Todd that year. I think it was twenty twenty 187 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.320 two. Yeah, it was just early, like early on the expedition, 188 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.879 and I think we talked about that story with you. I don't know, 189 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:01.279 you want to get into it or off, but yeah, we had a 190 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.600 rock thrown at us. But it wasn't like a pebble, It wasn't like 191 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.639 a pinecone size. It was like a legit rock. And obviously nothing out 192 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.639 there throws rocks except something with proposable thumbs. In that area too, there's 193 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.559 no trees hanging over the campers. That was stuffed straight hitting the campers. 194 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:22.000 The only time I've ever seen that on TV would be like Monster Quest when 195 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:26.440 Jeff Meldrom was up there at I forget the name, think you with that 196 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.159 cabin up in the wood up in snow Grove either, Yeah, snow Grove. 197 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.799 That was the last time I've ever seen anything like that happen. So 198 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.000 have it happened? There? Was like? Yes, Yeah, it was 199 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.559 definitely one of the weirdest experiences that I had when I was there. There 200 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.679 was other things that stuck out. Obviously, your dad and I talked about 201 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.879 the night that we watched. I told him, I think it was the 202 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:48.639 first night we were there by ourselves. Todd and Ashley were coming up the 203 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.759 next day, Me and you and him are around the fire. We look 204 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.240 up at the sky and we see all these frickin' lights. Man, that 205 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.559 was one of the weirdest nights I've ever had. What was it, I 206 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.960 think two shooting stars that happened that night. There was a meteorite that went 207 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.320 by. Yeah, you were looking at all these lights. How did you 208 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.200 feel about that? Is that something you had had seen up there before or 209 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.519 experienced. No, that's actually the first time I've ever had anything like that 210 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.120 happen in the sky. And at this point i've been there, I think 211 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.679 in eight weeks was your expedition? Was how much time I've spent out there, 212 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:24.600 And man, that's the first time I've ever seen anything crazy like that. 213 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.159 But those orbs, man, those were crazy. I've never seen that 214 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.240 before. And I've seen the titletes. I know what Tatlee tho. We 215 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:37.200 were looking at them through binoculars. What the Yeah. When I got back 216 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.120 and I did the breakdown over on that Bigfoot podcast with an episode I did 217 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.679 with Wayne, I think it was a week or two after I got back 218 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.039 and I talked about that, and I was getting emails and I was getting 219 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:50.240 all kinds of messages. Oh, it was just satellites. Due, That's 220 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:54.159 all it was. You were seeing satellites. I'm like, no, satellites, 221 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:56.919 they're not going two thousand miles an hour in a certain direction and they 222 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:01.879 don't stop. I watched this thing stop and do a ninety degree turn and 223 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.399 shoot off in the opposite direction. That's not a satellite, dude. There's 224 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:11.200 so much weird stuff that cumulatively happened there were so many nights we'd set around 225 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.919 the fire and it felt like nothing's really happening. But almost every night we 226 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.360 would hear a whoop, we would hear a wood knock. We were hearing 227 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:24.840 the strange vocalizations that I did catch some on the audio. Unfortunately, Todd 228 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:30.000 was talking over like that samurai chatter that we heard. That's when they do 229 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:33.559 it. They know better. Maybe they don't know better, but I feel 230 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.840 like they do it just to catch you off guard. And oh they're talking. 231 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.519 Okay, let's make a noise and see how they react. Yeah, 232 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.480 it was just weird stuff, man. And then obviously your dad's sighting that 233 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.000 he had. I caught a lot of shit about that too. When I 234 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.399 posted his video, people were like, oh, dude, saw bear, 235 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:50.600 it was a bear. Why would you walk near a bear? I'm thinking, 236 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.360 again, you have to see this area. You have to see where 237 00:14:54.399 --> 00:15:00.879 we're talking about to know it wasn't a bear. Also, like, if 238 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:05.440 you go down into that spot and put your feet where I found those tracks 239 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.480 that next morning, and then those four steps that track way beating out, 240 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:11.399 and you're not gonna tell me it was a bear. There's no way. 241 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.200 Yeah, that's what did it for me man, when you guys brought me 242 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:16.600 out when I came out that morning for breakfast, and we went over and 243 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.879 we were starting to look at the area, and I stood there and I 244 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.720 put my feet in those two spots, and I looked directly at camp, 245 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:28.360 directly at where your dad was standing when he saw this thing, and I 246 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:33.960 thought, this is the perfect vantage point for these things to just stand and 247 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.759 watch when we're sitting around the fire shooting the shit or whatever we're doing, 248 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.440 just out of sight too. That fire only reaches people are understand. When 249 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:46.039 you walk out of that fire light, you feel so exposed. You're just 250 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.639 like it's a whole different atmosphere everything. As soon as you just get out 251 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.039 of the world as a fire, you don't feel stafe anymore. It's a 252 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.799 weird baby, Bally. And the one thing that I really took away is 253 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:00.600 one of the most I don't know what the word is. I guess it 254 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:04.480 just stood out to me more than anything was the activity we were having that 255 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:10.679 night. We ended up pretty late that night doing our night walk. Oh 256 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:15.559 yeah, that was definitely one of the most interesting experiences of my life. 257 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.559 Talk a little bit about that. What led up to that and how are 258 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.960 you feeling? Dear in that moment. Not really a fan of night walks, 259 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.639 I never really was, but that was this past I guess season out 260 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.000 there was more so for me to just push the envelope. I know as 261 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:34.279 much as anybody else that if you do the same thing expect the different results, 262 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.039 You're stuck me. So you have to push the envelope. You have 263 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.679 to do crazy things, you have to try new stuff in order to get 264 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:45.000 to the results. So for me, it was like, yeah, I'm 265 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:45.799 gonna pass on the night walk and then I'm like, you know what, 266 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:48.559 I can't pass on the night walk and I have to go on the night 267 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.720 walk because I'm gonna look back and be like, wow, you should have 268 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.279 gone on the night because something's gonna happen. So I was like, all 269 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.399 right, I'm just gonna say yes, I'm going, and I'm just gonna 270 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.440 go. And it did help me get over that little bit of beer. 271 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:04.519 Of doing that. It's like I've still fifty feet away from his savage Jmi 272 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.359 Laer. If you want to whatever, I've done it, I've got in 273 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.559 that ice water, I've climbed that mountain, I've done that stuff. I'm 274 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.200 not scared of much when it comes to that kind of stuff out there. 275 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.400 That was a little bit next level for me. So I had to push 276 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.680 it. I had to do it. Whether I was scared or not didn't 277 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:23.960 matter, because I was I'm guiding. I need to be, you know, 278 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:29.160 in that right mindset. So I just shut that off and I took 279 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:32.680 a walk down that trail with you guys. What really got me It was 280 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:36.559 the weirdest timing too, because I couldn't see a damn thing front, like 281 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:41.400 maybe Todd in front of me. That did frigging branch off the trail hit 282 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.400 me in the chest just as Todd stopped and was like, oh right there, 283 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.079 I've not had a heart attack. That really made my heart fulp there 284 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.720 for a couple of minutes. So then he started doing The more that you're 285 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:53.519 around Todd, the more that you're out there with him, and the more 286 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:57.400 encounters you guys have together, and he starts doing that, Hi, buddy, 287 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:02.519 you really realized that it's real. Like he doesn't talk like that. 288 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:06.160 He's always just a matter of fact and this and that, and like you 289 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.000 know, you know of that. When he starts talking like that, that 290 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:11.680 day just not gave anymore. This is you messed this up. Either we're 291 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:15.839 not going to have an encounter ever again, or you might get hit with 292 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.160 something from the woods. So you have to have to reset your mind, 293 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:23.480 like, okay, all right, this is happening. And I've learned to 294 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.680 take his lead when it comes to stuff like that. But I've also learned 295 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:30.160 from him how to take lead in case of a scenario like that happened kind 296 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.359 of mind going out there and doing that stuff. I have to do that 297 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:37.200 stuff. Being a guide now, I have to push that envelope more so 298 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.160 that I can go and do these things. Say, if you come out 299 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:42.759 or somebody else comes out with me, I need to know that I can 300 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:47.799 do it and stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sy, We'll be right 301 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:53.960 back after these messages. So I'm happy that I did it. I'm happy 302 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:57.440 that we had some cool stuff happen, and I'm happy to push my comfort 303 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:00.160 level. And for you, I know it was a huge comfort level for 304 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:06.000 you too, because I can't imagine you were any comfortable whatsoever. No, 305 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:08.000 I'm not gonna lie, man, I was scared shitless in the beginning, 306 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:11.720 and it wasn't even so much a fright that I was feeling. I think 307 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:17.319 it was just more of the adrenaline. I was shaking uncontrollably at certain points, 308 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:18.960 and it was cold to shit out there, but it wasn't that cold. 309 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:22.880 I've had enough adrenaline dumps in the past to know that it was my 310 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.079 adrenaline. Because, like you said, we really couldn't see your hand in 311 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:30.039 front of your face. It was so dark, and we're not out there. 312 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.640 We're not shining flashlights. None of us had a flashlight on us. 313 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.640 We're just out there completely exposed. And I tell you, the thing that 314 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.039 got me the most about the situation was we were hearing these noises. That's 315 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:42.640 why we went out there. We were hearing woodknocks. We were hearing these 316 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.759 things going on in that area. So we went to where it was, 317 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:51.400 walking down the Porky Pine trail, and I'm thinking, there's a possibility there's 318 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:55.680 a sasquatch twenty yards away from us, and we're walking towards it in the 319 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:59.119 middle of the night, in the dark. I had a knife on me, 320 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:03.160 that's it. I know Todd had the forty five seventy, but that's 321 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:07.319 a bad situation to be in for most people. But that's why I was 322 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:08.240 there. I was not going to miss it. I'm certainly not going to 323 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:11.480 sit back at camp and wait on you guys to come back and fill me 324 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.079 in. And then we got out there, and the thing that probably sent 325 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:21.119 me, honestly the most at disease for a moment, was when Ashley said 326 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:25.400 she wasn't gonna sit down. I don't know why. It was just she 327 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:26.799 just had this feeling and she said, no, I feel like I need 328 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.559 to stand up. I feel like I'm being called to stand up. And 329 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:33.000 I was like, okay, but it made me a little I thought, 330 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.599 what does she know something I don't know at that point, But of course 331 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:40.400 I know Ashley is not the kind of person. If there was something that 332 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:41.920 she felt that was wrong, she would have definitely told us and we would 333 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.240 have all been safe. Don't get me wrong, But I don't know why. 334 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:47.640 It just set me off. But I tell you, sitting there for 335 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:49.640 I don't know, ten twelve minutes, fifteen minutes, however long we sat 336 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:53.799 there, it was a very surreal experience to be sitting in the middle of 337 00:20:53.799 --> 00:21:00.880 the woods and possibly have a sasquatch twenty twenty five yards away from you and 338 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.440 not know what's going to happen. That's hard to explain to people, but 339 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.519 I felt like we were interacting with something at that point. And then of 340 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.599 course we heard that one knock that was in the distance, and I think 341 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.559 everybody just collectively was just it was almost like one mind, one body. 342 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:18.920 We were all like, I think that's them saying goodbye. Yeah, it 343 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.559 just felt like time to get up and move. So made our way back 344 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:25.519 to the fire and it was pretty uneventful for the rest of the night. 345 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:29.680 But that was one of those experiences that I will never forget, and I 346 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.400 will never as long as I live. I'll probably never experience anything else like 347 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:37.200 that again, because it's just not something you get to do. Your dad 348 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:41.440 and I talked about it about how remote this place is, and that's one 349 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:42.799 of the things that people. I got a lot of shit when I got 350 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:47.559 back from just going on the trip. We both hear you were gonna yeah, 351 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:51.039 that's one of the things people, everything you heard Todd paid people to 352 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.079 be out there, and I'm like, you can't say that because you haven't 353 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:56.119 seen it, right, and Jason being there as soon as I said, 354 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.559 there was somebody else there. Oh, how convenient. There was somebody else 355 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.799 up there that was climbing the Radium Mountain hike, and he was the one 356 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.680 doing all this, And I'm like, you know what, I would have 357 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.240 been the person saying that a year ago, right, I'm not saying we're 358 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:15.039 the first that a year ago exactly. And now I've been up there, 359 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:19.000 I've experienced it, I see what it's like. There was absolutely no way 360 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:26.119 that Jason or anybody else for that matter, was doing some samurai chatter making 361 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.400 whoops and or hitting trees while we were there and doing tree knocks. People 362 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:34.359 don't understand. We drove him like an hour away from camp, deeper, 363 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:38.039 even deeper than we were. And how much higher in elevation was he when 364 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:41.519 he was up on Radium when he at the top, I don't know. 365 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:47.279 I think it's ten or twelve thousand, And just in case you were wondering, 366 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:52.160 eight the man was up there filming because he has his own Instagram. 367 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:55.480 He took a camera. He was filming from the top of this area when 368 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:59.599 we were experiencing the stuff that we were experiencing. There's absolutely no way that 369 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:03.920 it was he'son or anybody else for that matter. J the beast that he 370 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.359 is. Yes, We've had him scheduled to come on the show twice and 371 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.799 something really shit happened both times, and I haven't been able to get him 372 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.240 on, so we're I'm hoping to reschedule him. So that is coming, 373 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.279 folks. We want to get Jason on to talk about because he had experiences, 374 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.640 He's had experiences in that area. So he's just the coolest, most 375 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:25.079 zen in person you'll ever meet. And oh my god, yeah, I 376 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.200 like, I don't have words. He's like a shaman. It's amazing. 377 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:30.440 I want to be more like him. Yeah, you definitely feel it when 378 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:36.119 you're He's a big, imposing guy, a big figure, but you just 379 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.000 feel completely at ease when you're in his presence. He's just one of those 380 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:41.960 people. Man, he's one of the coolest people I've ever met. For 381 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.880 sure. Let's talk a little bit. Also, go ahead, he's got 382 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:49.599 three black belts and who knows what anymore, So she's the wrong guy to 383 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.759 messwish for sure. He'll have you on the ground before you even realize that. 384 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:56.440 Yeah, he would break shit without even touching you. I have a 385 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:00.920 fear fresh foot, laate. Let's talk about some of the other things that 386 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.680 stuck out to you on that expedition. Well, let me ask the question, 387 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.799 was there anything that stuck out to you on that expedition that was out 388 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:11.119 of the ordinary or things that you experienced that you hadn't experienced before or you 389 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.279 didn't expect to experience when we were there, and talk a little bit about 390 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:18.839 the pinn Or playground. We didn't talk about that when I had Richard on. 391 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.039 I haven't really talked a whole lot about that. I've shared some photos 392 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.920 and I've shared some videos of that area, but again, that's a very 393 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:32.319 difficult place to explain if you haven't seen it yourself. So do your best, 394 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:36.319 if you will, to paint the picture of this place, why it's 395 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:40.440 called that, and what we saw when you took me and Richard out there 396 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:44.559 to see that area. Gotcha. Firstly, a lot of the things that 397 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.599 happened this past year that was a little bit I wish moro happened, But 398 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.839 I feel like it was a good putting your foot in the door, at 399 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.519 least for you in that aspect, because it's a lot to take in just 400 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.039 being out there in its own and then having dasquatching counters is a whole nother 401 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:04.279 level. So I'm happy that you got to see what it's like, and 402 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.240 I'm happy that you got to dip your toes in the water basically, and 403 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.640 nothing too crazy happened that. Oh yeah, of course when Brian from Stapsquatch 404 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.440 Odyssey goes out, you get a sighting and this and that. Like, 405 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.440 I'm happy that didn't happen, because I didn't want it to be like that. 406 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.000 But I'm also happy that, like absolutely nothing happened, because then it 407 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.079 doesn't prove it either way. The things being thrown at the camper was totally 408 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:30.519 new for me. Never had that happen. That tree break with that big, 409 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.039 like twenty or thirty foot tall other tree that was like weaved underneath of 410 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.880 it, never seen that before. That was super new. I wasn't expecting 411 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:45.119 to find two other structures that wasn't expecting. I always find tracks on them 412 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.440 out there, always do. It's my favorite thing to do is go scout 413 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.400 for tracks. I have the picture of the one by that big tree break 414 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.240 when you and I and Dad were who knows where. I don't even remember 415 00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:59.960 what trail that was offul because Dad just went that way. Speaking about that, 416 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.640 let me cut off for a second. Where are those videos of us 417 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.440 walking around? Is that on the back of your book, like on a 418 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:10.519 QR code. I heard that's where you put those videos at The majority of 419 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:12.599 those are going to be in the book. That's the only place they're going 420 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:15.599 to be. Yes, okay, gotcha, because I want to look back 421 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.680 and watch them because I thought that was I don't even know you were recording 422 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.519 havelf that that's why it was so fun. But yeah, anyway, I 423 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.319 always find tracks. I always expected buying tree brakes, so that all that 424 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:33.720 stuff's stuff of the thing. But definitely the rock throwing that the UFOs which 425 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.799 I can call them upo is because we don't know what they were. Yeah, 426 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:38.799 no, that's really good. The new structures was the Pinder playground. 427 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:44.079 That was not something I was expecting. Also, that giant structure that we 428 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:48.240 found over on the other side of the boundary, that was not something I 429 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.440 was expecting. Although what can you expect? That's a good question. Yeah, 430 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.200 just so at this point, what can you expect besides fight? It's 431 00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:59.279 the bootprints and stuff from tree breaks. But yeah, no, so the 432 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.440 Pender playground that was the new development. I think springtime of twenty twenty two 433 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.440 is when Todd told me about it, and he was telling me, you 434 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.599 got to do this place. This is absolutely we don't go up there. 435 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.519 We've never gone up there. It's probably twenty years old since I started coming 436 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.839 into this research area. I've never seen anything like this. It's just one 437 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.400 after the other. This doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. Why 438 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.240 is that like that? There's another tree break? What is all this? 439 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.720 You can only picture it. Even pictures don't do justice. So someone can 440 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.240 only tell you about it so much until you actually have to go there and 441 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.799 see it for yourself, and you stand underneath that structure, go oh yeah, 442 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.240 okay, and then you see the clockwise pattern that it's laid out in, 443 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:47.359 just like in Nordy, just like in the other side of where we 444 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:52.920 stayed a couple hours, like our last day there. There's definitely some crazy 445 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.160 stuff going on in the penor playgrounds, and I hope that more things end 446 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.279 up happening there so we can keep going back there and keep adding that to 447 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.519 our expeditions, because that our expeditions are usually pretty packed gm packed with stuff 448 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.559 to do. That's another cool thing we can do when it's on the way 449 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.799 to the radiumhikes. We can do that in a day or two. It's 450 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.880 just another cool thing that we can show people, especially for someone like you 451 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.680 to come out there just a little bit skeptical but yet open minded about it 452 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:23.960 and go, Okay, clearly that's not something that happened in nature, you 453 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.000 know, just the fact that I think I found a trackway I don't know 454 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.680 what was eight or ten. It looked like eight or ten footprints or tracks 455 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.640 that I was finding, and I had a hard time with the distance between 456 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.440 the tracks when I was walking in an area that was heading towards one of 457 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.000 these structures. It was one of the craziest things I've ever seen, for 458 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.759 sure. And I got to show you how the track basically, like how 459 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:49.960 they're laid out, what to look for, what not to look for, 460 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.640 look at the length of them or they like all that stuff. And then 461 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.559 over terrain is a lot harder because it's stagged. The must like it just 462 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:02.119 pops back up, so all the little weird Okay, that branch has moved 463 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.039 and this and that, like you can you can look at it like that. 464 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.720 You can it like lights up for you. You can see the track 465 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.759 by it I'm happy that you saw it. You found eight that like never 466 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.279 happens. I'm sure there's researchers out there that have been doing it for twenty 467 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.880 years that haven't found two in a line, So that's super, super amazing. 468 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.000 Yeah. I couldn't believe it. Man. I thought I was questioning 469 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.599 myself, is this really what I think it is? And the more I 470 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.920 looked, and the more I walked and I got down and looked, I'm 471 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.839 like, that is definitely a trackway and it's leading right where we were going 472 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.599 to another one. I think your dad was making a b line for another 473 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.359 structure, Like, yeah, it's heading right there. Man, there's a 474 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:45.119 lot there. Again, tons of it is subjective, but I left there, 475 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.559 and I've said it so many times, I left there knowing at least 476 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.720 I felt like at least a couple of times during that trip, I interacted 477 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.720 with what I believed to be a Sasquatch on a couple of different occasions. 478 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.400 When we were heading off on the e bikes. Your dad and I talked 479 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.839 about it that first YE had it out on and we heard the tree knocks. 480 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:04.160 I do a whoop. We get another knock, and I'm like, 481 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.319 holy shit, that's a response. This thing is responding to me. But 482 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.680 I also put it out there too, like I was right there with it 483 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.920 have happened. And then you like you looked at me with the biggest I'll 484 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:21.000 never forget your face when you heard you have that response back. I was 485 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:25.680 like, whistle again, and if we get a response like we're ditching today, 486 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.519 we're going over there. I put that out there and then you did 487 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.680 a whistle back me and hearing back. So that to me, that was 488 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.720 like, Okay, that was a boundary, and I figured out that they 489 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.920 don't want us over there right now, so we're gonna leave it. We're 490 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:38.640 gonna go do our thing. But yeah, it was crazy, man. 491 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.279 So what's next for you and Radium? Are you going back this year? 492 00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:47.359 Are you going to continue to do expeditions? Anything new going on up there? 493 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.400 What's happening? We were pretty much the last expedition, one of the 494 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.359 last expeditions out there, so I'm unaware of any other developments that we may 495 00:30:55.359 --> 00:31:00.279 have had. But the plan is I'm going to spend I think it least 496 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:04.240 a month or two months out there this coming season, probably September October, 497 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:08.200 same time that you came out, and I'm going to be doing expeditions in 498 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.640 Todd's footsteps. So I'll be like I did with you. I'll be you 499 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.200 know, doing all the food, grab all that stuff and taking people out, 500 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.039 showing them everything that we have, all the developments, you know, 501 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:23.480 whatever happens this coming year, and just being a guide. I'm stepping up 502 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:27.240 to that plate now where I've spent enough time there where I know where everything 503 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.240 is, I know about everything, I know the animals to expect, not 504 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.359 to expect all that kinds of stuff. I'm being mentored by Todd. I've 505 00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:38.279 been mentored by Todd. I can't thank him enough for giving me the opportunity. 506 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.319 I'm just a kid from New York. It's super, super huge to 507 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.000 have a mentor of mine give me an opportunity like this. So that's the 508 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.599 goal is take it and run and get as many people as I can out 509 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.079 there, show them everything I can, have them do tree breaks like I 510 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:57.279 made you do, and just get them to fall back in love with nature 511 00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.720 and enjoy the wilderness and be mad at the logging company you cite like Guya. 512 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:07.039 But yeah, so I got hopefully two months out there this year and 513 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.839 then probably within the next two or three years. I'd like to open up 514 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.720 a Discovering Bigco research center in Montana, so my friends who don't want to 515 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:22.279 get their passports can come to a great, amazing state of Montana. Is 516 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.480 there sasqutch there in the Rockies and I'll show them sasqutch out there. I 517 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.759 have my own thing going on out awesome. I tell you, folks, 518 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:34.079 if you're into it at all and you have the ability to take the trip 519 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.839 to Radium, it is definitely worth it. Again, if nothing happened while 520 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:44.240 I was there, I would have left perfectly happy because of the area itself. 521 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:49.279 Just being in nature and being in that beautiful place seeing the amazing things 522 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.839 that we saw with good people, eating good food and breathing good air and 523 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:57.680 drinking some of the best water on earth. It is the absolute best thing 524 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.960 that you could possibly do for yourself, in my opinion. So whether you 525 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.240 have an interaction with a sasquatch while you're there or not, it is definitely 526 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.759 worth a trip. Anybody who's on the fence about it, you heard it 527 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.440 from me. That's my recommendation. Go up there, enjoy the time, 528 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:14.160 get out into nature, do it with somebody like you who does a great 529 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.359 job and knows what they're doing. We'll keep you safe, take care of 530 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:20.720 you. Man. So I appreciate the time that we spent together, and 531 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.440 I appreciate you coming on and talking about it tonight. Man. Yeah, 532 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.119 problem yeah. I'm always about trying to get people out and nature, man, 533 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.440 And it's bad nowadays with technology. Now we got AI and stuff, 534 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:34.039 and we got to turn that around. We got to get back out of 535 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.400 the wood. Go bright, goally out in the field and look at the 536 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.640 stars. Just do something. Get out there, put the phone down, 537 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.200 and get off the couch and get out there. Put the phone up. 538 00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.200 You know what I find amazing is that, like if I'm on Instagram or 539 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.119 something like that, Like I'll scroll on a reel and I'll see this amazing 540 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.400 drone footage or something like that of this beautiful serene like Switzerland or something like 541 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.279 that, and like, just go there now. I just see it myself. 542 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:07.360 They say shot, gotta go home, but you can't stay. I 543 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:37.480 don't know. To be a world up its try this chart. 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