WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.240 --> 00:00:06.919 Steve Rivera and Jacin Sallins. They have their Eye on the Ball on Tucson 2 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:13.199 Sports Stage, Chef Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to Eye 3 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:15.519 on the Ball here, I'll talk Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's 4 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:20.120 Jay, and I'm hoping Jay has a lot of the breaking news his Eye 5 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:25.440 on the ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, Well, 6 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.000 since it's Monday, we've had a lot of things going on since our 7 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:32.560 last show last week, so you know, let's just start with the with 8 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:36.560 the with the with the ap polls both football and basketball are out. A 9 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:41.200 football poll came out SCA Basketball today. In basketball, Arizona holds at number 10 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:46.439 three behind Kansas and Purdue. Purdue right now is down five at the Maui 11 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:52.159 Classic against Gonzaga at halftime and we're watching We've got this thing on over here, 12 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.520 and guess who shows up on the halftime show? Steve our friend, 13 00:00:55.799 --> 00:01:00.960 who's that? Josh Pastor? And look, you knew, Shock's not shot 14 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:06.799 shot cannot shot with the you know, the the personality that he's got inside 15 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:11.319 inside. He's a smart guy, works hard, very well spoken. He's 16 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.920 I mean, he looks like a TV guy. You're looking right, right, 17 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:21.280 is it right? Well, he's Jets age forty five, but he's 18 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:25.959 he's in the in studio on the halftime show, uh, talking about Gonzaga 19 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:29.680 and Purdue, which is going on right now. Again, Gonzaga is up 20 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:33.519 thirty five thirty. So if they lose, you know, anywhere along the 21 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:36.640 line here, that's a great Mali class. There's all the great team you 22 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:38.879 know. I mean the fact that Purdue and Gonzaga are playing in the first 23 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.840 round. Yeah, that tells you that there's no slouches in this uh, 24 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:47.040 in the in this tournament, which incidentally is being played in Oahu instead of 25 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:52.480 in Maui because of the fire earlier this year. On the football side, 26 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:57.760 Arizona bounces up to number four fifteen sixteen, only up one spot, well 27 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:01.640 three spots in the eight people. There were seventeen in the football playoff poll, 28 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:07.159 but bounce up three spots to number sixteen. Still not sure why they're 29 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.520 not ahead of Oregon State, who was at fifteen, but they're still they're 30 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:15.080 sixteen again. Who would have thought at the beginning, I'm curious and I 31 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.039 should know this, But how the how the demographics of the voters lies, 32 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:23.800 you know how many and where they are just just on the east coast store 33 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:30.199 you know, beyond beyond some Mississippi or whatever, because they obviously haven't seen 34 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:32.479 the west coast enough. Right. I think if I'm looking at the at 35 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:36.800 the thing and I've got Oregon State, I'm trying to side on a spot 36 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:39.719 between Oregon State and Arizona. Why you would put Arizona? Sure, because 37 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:45.360 and you know with all their other excuse me, all the other wins. 38 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:52.319 But the top the top of four have changed a little bit. Ohio State 39 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.479 swaps spots with the Michigan. Ohio State is now number two, Georgia number 40 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:59.919 one, Ohio State two of Michigan, three, Washington who's moved up into 41 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.759 four spot. They had a Florida State, which I know, I don't 42 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:07.639 know if you saw the injury to the quarterback Jordan Travis. It's one of 43 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:12.120 those his foot was pointed in the rock correction breaks. He's out for the 44 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:15.520 year. And Florida State's got games left with Florida and and Louisville in the 45 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:21.000 in the ACC Championship game. So there's thought that their their playoff hopes are 46 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.879 probably gonna die because the quarterback is gone. You got Oregon at six, 47 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:28.240 Texas at seven, Alabama still all the way down at eight, Louisville at 48 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:32.360 nine, and Missouri at ten. Gone from the pole are Utah, USC 49 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.919 and l Well, you say he was already gone. So what's left for 50 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.960 Arizona? So Arizona's the last team run four. So you got Oregon Washington, 51 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.960 right, you got Washington for Oregon six, then Oregon State at fifteen, 52 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.199 Arizona at sixteen. That's who's left in the pack? Ub again packed 53 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:54.800 up was just as always, kind of cannibalized like it always does. Women's 54 00:03:54.840 --> 00:04:00.280 basketball. The women on the road in uh In in the Bahamas split their 55 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:04.159 first two games, got beat yesterday by a number twenty three. Mississippi came 56 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:10.479 back today and beat South Dakota sixty one fifty two in the third place game. 57 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:13.319 So they you know, they go too and one on the road right 58 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:15.959 in the Bahamas. Can I stick with a girls basketball or women's basketball real 59 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:19.920 quick? Brenda Freeze, you remember her, right, she coaches at Maryland. 60 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:24.160 They're not in the top twenty five for the first time in two hundred 61 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:27.759 and fifty one straight weeks. Went on over there. They've lost a few 62 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.959 couple of games already, and she's one of the national titler. Yeah, 63 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.560 yeah, she has, she has. I mentioned the Maui Classic of the 64 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:38.600 other game that's already been playing over there. Number seven, Tennessee beat Syracuse, 65 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:43.879 so I saw. I'm assuming Gonzaga perdue Winter plays Syracuse in the loser's 66 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.680 play, so I played, I mean Tennessee. So that's a great tournament, 67 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:50.519 that really is. Yeah, speaking of Syracuse, our old friend, 68 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:55.480 former U of A assistant coach, Dino Babers, Yeah, was fired over 69 00:04:55.519 --> 00:05:00.199 the weekend yesterday, So he's gone. You know, Anthony, it was 70 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:02.399 pretty close to him, smart coach, smart dude. One of the good 71 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:04.560 guys too, Yeah, he was. He was one of those really good 72 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:08.759 guys. We always we always remember a good guy. Remember the good guys. 73 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.199 Well, you know that that that that staff that he had in the 74 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:15.120 nineties with you know, with Larry McDuff and Johnny Lynn and right, you 75 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:18.439 know all those guys that were just good guys. They all those guys that 76 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:23.680 were really good guys to be around. So he's he's gone. Over there. 77 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:29.720 A little a little Arizona football news. Jalen Harris, guy you know, 78 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.560 used up as Algibida last year to the son of Sean Harris. I 79 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.600 guess all along, he's been on the Bears practice squad, been drafted by 80 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:39.399 the Bears, right, and so he's been on their practice squad all year 81 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.120 long. And we never found out where his brother left to. Yeah, 82 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.480 remember left the beginning of the year, right, But Jalen Harris has been 83 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.959 signed by the Commanders and put on their active squad. So he is now 84 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:55.319 with the Washington Commanders. Good for Jalen Harris. You know. Look, 85 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:57.600 it's always cool when you see one of those, one of those guys land 86 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:01.079 somewhere. Look at some months, John Rothstein has been a guest on on 87 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.560 the show. He's got Arizona number. He's got Arizona produce swapped in his 88 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:09.720 in his top ten, he's got Arizona number two behind Cam. Yeah. 89 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.480 Well they they received three number one votes. Yeah. I don't know who 90 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.399 did that, but probably it's it's right now, it's it's what late November. 91 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.560 Yeah, it will work itself out, it will it will. And 92 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:25.639 the one thing that everybody loved what Tommy said against Duke is Okay, we 93 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.600 beat Duke. What does it matter now? Nothing? It matters what happens 94 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.639 in March or we do the rest of the way. A lot of discussion 95 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.399 again with that, with that outcome of the usc U c L A g 96 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:41.000 Us he got blasted thirty eight to twenty. It wasn't even that close. 97 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:45.160 Uh, Caleb Caleb Williams wouldn't even talk to the media after the game, 98 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.399 so he didn't talk to the mediated. Again, he's he declined to doctor 99 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:49.560 the media. A lot of discussion, What does you know? What does 100 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:53.480 that say about what kind of pro he's going to be if he can't handle 101 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.759 this kind of you know deal at the college level. You know, when 102 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.720 you have to you have to do those things as a pro. What do 103 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:02.199 you can to do? Well, here's here's the issue. Uh, it 104 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:06.480 doesn't matter because he still draft him. He's somebody and and you don't have 105 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.480 to deal with it. Yeah, but is he going to be the number 106 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:12.279 one pick? Somebody said, you know, I'm a guy who's got a 107 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.839 little stronger I'm not going to say character, but just has a little more 108 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.000 you know, can handle the adversity. I know you wouldn't take it. 109 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.720 I know you wouldn't take him. I probably wouldn't unless unless he was so 110 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.600 overwhelmingly better physically talented, yeah, than everybody else. And I don't know 111 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:32.120 that he is Daniels is playing, is playing incredibly. He's jumped into the 112 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.240 Heisman Trophy race. That's part of the makeup of the thing. Because you 113 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:41.439 remember Bike Baker Mayfield. He was kind of like a malcontent, petulant guy 114 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:46.040 and he became who he became. And he's kind of at not a maverick, 115 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:47.839 but uh well he's in the league, but he's kind of picked around. 116 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.160 He's kind of, I can't find the word bag amount or whatever it 117 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:55.519 is, a vagabon carpet, just around. He's been working for a lot 118 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:59.399 of teams, So I don't know. You know again, I mean I'm 119 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:01.680 not an owner of team, and you know, there's other things that come 120 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:03.879 into play when you're deciding whether or not you're gonna you're gonna take a guy. 121 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:11.319 You know, the the they go so deep into a guy's character. 122 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:15.040 But to me, what he's done, as far as that goes, that's 123 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.399 a negative. Now how much of a negative is it, I don't know, 124 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.600 but it's a negative. And he's gonna have to convince me that he 125 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.319 can handle things better than he's handled that. Sure, you know, if 126 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.959 I'm gonna take well, I still think that the nil stuff is a problem. 127 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:33.039 I just really do, because you're making he's making in the millions. 128 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:37.000 Yeah, and he's getting paid no matter what. And then this happens. 129 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.840 Yeah, the bad stuff happens, and again goes back to your things, 130 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.679 Steve. How many guys on the USC teams? What what thet Caleb Williams, 131 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:52.600 he's on Doctor Pepper commercial, sure, the Heisman House commercial. You 132 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.120 know, he's all over the place, and they might be wonder to wait 133 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.519 a minute, I'm working my ass off over here. I went to school 134 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:01.240 and he's out there making they're making money. How much work is he putting 135 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.360 into that? Totally totally thought that right when it happened, because it's it's 136 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:07.279 there's nothing fair in this world. There's nothing. I don't care what people 137 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.879 think. There's no nothing fair. But if I'm blocking forth these guys that 138 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:16.720 are doing really well, what the hell? Yeah? Yeah, I worked 139 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:18.879 just as hard. And then how many us you guys are getting a bunch 140 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:22.759 of money in that? How many guys are not or not? Yeah? 141 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.360 Right? And how does that, you know, affect things? It has 142 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.759 to doesn't it does it have to, And don't forget the egos it brings. 143 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:37.080 The ego it brings because because I don't care what you say or what 144 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:41.840 people say, that money kind of affects us. How affects how you think 145 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.440 and how you play, right, because your poop doesn't stink? Or sure 146 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.399 you think? You know if you're you know, if you're playing in Colorado 147 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.559 and you're riding up to practice on your bike and you see the Sanders rolls 148 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:56.639 booted over there. Yeah yeah, yeah, you're thinking, what are you 149 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:00.840 think? You're probably one of the guys saying good Ram, Yeah, good 150 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:05.919 for him. I mean that his mooted. All right. So times in 151 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.240 Vegas last week? I did you know? I had a little bit of 152 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:11.320 interest in the in the Vegas Grand Prix, not in terms of who won, 153 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:15.759 just watching the spectacle. Did you watch? I stayed up late and 154 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.600 watched at least the beginning. I fell asleep. How long it was long? 155 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.440 Because it started at eleven o'clock. I didn't want to I started stopped 156 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.399 about ten thirty. If no, it's not for me anyway, So what 157 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.960 did you think? The first It was cool? You know, it is 158 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.279 a spectacle. It was very cool. I watched the beginning of the race. 159 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.600 A lot of issues with it. There were a lot of different issues 160 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:35.519 with it. You know, things about you know, you you know, 161 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.919 you paid all this money for a seat and you couldn't see you know that 162 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.279 all the you know, there was that whole thing with the man whole cover 163 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.200 that that came up and wrecked that guy's car. Yeah, there were a 164 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.519 lot of issues with it. There were issues about you know that it wasn't 165 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:54.440 bringing in the business that you know, and the and the crowds expensive mission. 166 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.399 You see how much money they really lost on it. But in the 167 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.720 end when the race came on, it was really cool to watch these guys 168 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.240 on this track because, you know, getting to and from our hotel, 169 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.440 we were on the track, you know, in a cab. We were 170 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.519 on a part of the racetrack with our hotel was basically at the end of 171 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.879 the circuit where they're coming to back to the start finish line. I looked 172 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:20.840 out the window when it was right there. Well do you think that for 173 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.240 the common man, because most of us take cabs or uber to get around, 174 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.120 right, will that help the city? Because because you're always wondering, 175 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.519 it's just gonna take me for extra charge because he's gonna go longer than we 176 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.960 think he's gonna go. You know what I'm saying, because it happens all 177 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.799 the time, right, I mean, it's crazy when you think about the 178 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.399 magnitude of what they had to do to that city. I mean, they 179 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:52.200 built overpasses for cars to get over the track. I mean it wasn't like, 180 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.080 oh, we had to go find it, but I'm literally there three 181 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:00.720 or four overpasses to get to where to work, to get from the outside 182 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.919 of the circuit to the inside of the circuit or you know, to your 183 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:09.159 hotels that were inside the inside the street street, regular street, not like 184 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.519 the bridge, not like the trap, not like the traps, to have 185 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:18.240 temporary bridges for cars to go over to get inside, because you know, 186 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.559 the work it was a circle, and so when the thing was closed for 187 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.240 for the race or practice or whatever you can get around, you had to 188 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:28.399 be able to still get inside. So I guess we'll know the results. 189 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.440 We'll start to hear I'm sure about what the money came in or didn't come 190 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.679 in or whatever. Right, and then, as you mentioned, Arizona won 191 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.120 two games over the weekend in basketball, now this game comes up with the 192 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:43.639 Michigan State right on Thanksgiving Day, two o'clock our time. It's perfect, 193 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:50.399 watch the game, go have dinner. What time is the the second game 194 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:56.000 of the NFL about that time? Yeah, yeah, I think it's the 195 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.879 first game is the ten thirty? I think the second game like two, 196 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.039 and then another one out or whatever, and then there's another one a night 197 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.000 game. But you know, yeah, we'll be you know, we'll be 198 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.720 watching the basketball game. I'm sure that'll be fun. It'll be all right. 199 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:18.480 We've got ut muel. I was I was you a basketball game right 200 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.679 into your brother in the in the s I the office and your daughter. 201 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.360 Wass you guys? A bunch of old guys, You guys guy snapping each 202 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:30.639 other, you know, snabbing Joe Trump candidate. How did you forget that 203 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.720 I Sna was your brother? You didn't remember his name? It sounds like 204 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.440 what I remember. I all remembers, like give me eight inches of light 205 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.960 and I'll get through that hole or whatever. I don't remember. Yeah, 206 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.480 but Matt will be joining us. Uh. 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I'm working man, I'm at the shop. 280 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.599 I'm in my office. Head walk outside to take this call home. 281 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:59.519 I love talking to you guys. So happy Monday, Yes, happy Monday 282 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.119 to YouTube. You got you're back again on the show. Second game that 283 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.039 you've covered Arizona. I think it was your second game. Uh did you 284 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:11.319 continue to improve what you hope for? Right? Yeah, you know, 285 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.480 I was telling somebody, I can't believe how you know we've had we've had 286 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:19.720 over the years, these comparisons to you know, to Loop with Tommy. 287 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:26.359 And the one thing that you guys will both appreciate this is how good Tommy 288 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:30.960 has gotten his team so early. Yeah, I'm amazed at it all. 289 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:34.759 You know, the last three years, they've been so good on like November 290 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:40.279 first, and pretty amazing how he's been able to integrate him that quickly. 291 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:42.319 Well, and that was the thing that you know, I mean, you 292 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:47.240 guys did and LOOTS teams were you know what, We're always winning the MAI 293 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:49.599 Tournament, the preseason inn I t yeah, you know all that stuff, 294 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.839 And that was the characteristic of of of LOOTS teams. But you know, 295 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.640 you feel like with what kind of with what Tommy does, it looks different 296 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:04.160 because the way they play and how how it seems like it's all very seamless 297 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:11.440 from the get go well. And two things jumped out at me when I 298 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:14.759 thought about it today. Actually I probably should have said it during the game, 299 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:17.680 but it just sometimes it hits me. I'm slow, so it hits 300 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:22.279 me a day later. But I was thinking about that and the two things. 301 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.319 Number One, he gets them to share the ball so much. That's 302 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:30.000 why it looks good, because you know, on offense, it doesn't look 303 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:33.000 good when you don't share it and you see and you can see it. 304 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.799 And because he's so adamant about people sharing the ball and playing the right way, 305 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:41.720 that's why it flows and that's why it goes early. And I'll tell 306 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:47.119 you the other thing. I was at shoot around yesterday, and he is 307 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:49.279 so strategic. You know, you see a lot of coaches that shoot around, 308 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.720 just roll the ball out, shoot some fre throw, shoots some threes, 309 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:55.599 you know, get in maybe an out of bounds play, and go 310 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:59.480 home and get ready for the game. He did an amazing thing. I 311 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:03.119 thought. He did like these sort of like fifteen minutes, like ten to 312 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.480 twelve minute little sessions where okay, they did some classic shooting, but then 313 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.920 they went into like five or zero offense and did a lot of dummy offense. 314 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:15.400 Then they did some more shooting, then they did like a press break, 315 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:18.599 then they did some more shooting and you know, shot some free throws. 316 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:21.960 But then they did they implemented like another thing that they were doing. 317 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.480 He really coached through the shoot around, but did it in you know, 318 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.160 small snippets, so guys aren't going to get kind of bored or tired on 319 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.279 the day of a game, you know. And I just thought the strategy 320 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:37.039 that he's already employing, you know, early in the year, that's one 321 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:40.839 of the reasons they're so good early. So one of the things I liked, 322 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:47.240 and you guys talked about the success like loot in November December. Guess 323 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.240 what happens in November and December not a damn thing unless you want to bring 324 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.680 some championships. So you got to be good in March. So after beating 325 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:57.359 Duke, he said, Okay, we beat Duke. We got this has 326 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.720 to happen in March. Yeah, he you know. One of the things 327 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:04.880 also that I that I was I'm with you, I was talking to, 328 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:11.960 you know, just people around the program, and one of the takeaways was 329 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.319 how cool the Duke Winn was, but how fast he got over it. 330 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:19.839 Yeah, like he was literally in his press conference saying, we got, 331 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.440 we got you know whatever that next game was. It was Belmont, I 332 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:29.319 think, but he's he's not impressed. He's impressed for about eight seconds and 333 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:30.880 then he's not impressed. After that, he's like ready for the next one. 334 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.079 And I think that's a pretty cool thing to have. It is because 335 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.039 we said we you know, around the media, I mean, is that 336 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.160 we dwell on that stuff, right. We talked about it all week, 337 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:42.519 All week long, we kept talking about the Duke game, the Duke game, 338 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:45.359 the duke game. He had so far moved on, you know, 339 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:51.200 and then they come out and blast Belmont and they blast uh yu see Arlington 340 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:55.039 last night. And I guess that explains why, you know, one he's 341 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.279 a coach and why two he's a really good coach and we're not. Yeah, 342 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.359 yeah, no, they're no question. And I'll tell you the other 343 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:06.759 reason that he's a really good coach is it takes a lot for coaches to 344 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:11.519 be reflectives, look at themselves, look at what their team looked like, 345 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:12.839 and look at what they need to do better. And he did such a 346 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:17.400 great job, you know, in roster construction this summer saying hey, we 347 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.319 need to get a little tougher, you maybe get a little more athletic. 348 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:23.839 Yeah, and he changed the roster and you're seeing it already. And I'll 349 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.759 tell you the one thing they do that you know, we talked a little 350 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:33.680 bit about in the game last night, but it's different than what we've seen 351 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.680 in the last two years, is how well they offensive rebound. And that's 352 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:41.400 where I don't care. If you're missing shots in the tournament, you're having 353 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.160 a bad night. If you offense the rebound, you're getting the ball back. 354 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.240 There's a guy named Keishaw Johnson that's doing a lot of that. But 355 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.119 before we go to that real quick, let me give you a compliment. 356 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.039 And wanted Tommy too. So you meet him, and we meet him early, 357 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:56.519 and he's just a to me, he's just a normal dude, right, 358 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.240 just the kind of a dude's dude. And he reminds me me of 359 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.640 you. He reminds me of Steve Kerr. You're this high high falutin lawyer, 360 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.880 you know, but you're just but you're just a normal dude because you 361 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.920 you're in every dude's dude, you know. And then Steve too, he's 362 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.119 got he's got millions in the bank and he's just a dude who knows how 363 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:18.039 to deal with people. And guess here's this dude, another dude, Tommy 364 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.880 Lloyd, who's very good at what he does. But it's just another dude. 365 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:26.400 Is am I off on that? Am I off? You're not? 366 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:29.359 You're not? But I would I would. I think you're totally right, 367 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:33.759 But I would add to that, and that is I always would tell people 368 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.920 like, don't don't let my my being nice, uh, distract you from 369 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:41.960 the fact that I'm pretty damn without question and without question, you know, 370 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.680 and and and you know, to the extent someone rubs me the wrong way, 371 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:51.759 that I'm not nice anymore, and and that that's that's the way Steve 372 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.079 is. You know you're around Steve. That's the way we see him in 373 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:56.720 the NBA. That's the way Tommy is too. Like he's a really good 374 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:02.319 guy, but you can't mistake it his nice guy sort of feel for the 375 00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:04.559 fact that that dude's a killer, like he wants to win, he's gonna 376 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.680 do it, and and and and by the way, how cool is that 377 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.480 as fans of to have a guy like that, right, you get you 378 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:18.880 get the best of both worlds. You know this town needed that exactly well, 379 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.880 you know, and you talk about his competitiveness. I don't remember the 380 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:25.640 play there was. There was a play, uh last night or yesterday where 381 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:29.759 a ball got thrown into the under the basket and I think it was Keishaw 382 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.599 Johnson got yanked down, I mean literally dragged to the ground and the ball 383 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.559 just went out of balance and Tommy lost his mind, like I haven't, 384 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:42.240 he was he got under He yelled at the ref for five minutes about that 385 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:48.920 play, and which tells you that in the end, you know, yeah, 386 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.599 he's a dude, but don't mess don't mess with it. Don't mess 387 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.160 with him. He's now, he's got it in his veins. He he 388 00:25:55.359 --> 00:26:00.759 competes, He competes at the highest level. And he doesn't he doesn't take 389 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:04.039 you know, he's not taking short cuts or days off. I don't know 390 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:11.599 if you could talk about this because you're in the media now, so don't 391 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.680 where your media has so it's for four games in whatever. You have a 392 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.559 guy that you've kind of attached yourself to a favorite player to this point, 393 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.599 you know, you know, well, I'll say this like I can say 394 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.599 as a media player, I love watching certain guys play. I mean, 395 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:32.240 I can tell you, you know, for for for years, I'll pick 396 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.079 a guy out on any team, whether it's you know, Colorado or Utah 397 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:40.559 or whatever. I think when I watch this team, just as a basketball 398 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:45.960 fan, I think the coolest part about the team is that the moment I 399 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.920 say, man, I really love how you know, Kylon Boswell is playing, 400 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.759 five seconds later I'm saying, well, I really love how Keishad Johnson's 401 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:56.759 playing. And by the way, oh yeah, I really love how Crevius 402 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.599 is playing. He's a I mean at about seven dollars. I mean, 403 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.000 they just have so many dudes over there that you really just love the way 404 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.640 they play. kJ Lewis, the freshman, might be in the long run, 405 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.440 he might be one of the best NBA prospects on the entire team. 406 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:18.839 And so that they all bring an ingredient or two or three, that to 407 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.279 me is pretty special. Well, the thing that's getting talked about it and 408 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.759 we've probably talked about it with you even, but though, is that there 409 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:32.200 aren't big holes in you know, ever on the floor right in every every 410 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:37.319 position there's a guy and and that's what sort of amazing. Yeah, I 411 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.240 mean, I mean, and to your point, like I haven't even talked 412 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.039 about, you know, Hella Larson. How unbelievably affecting has he been, 413 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.759 you know, and what he will be. I'll tell you what though, 414 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:52.119 I really like watching them all play. I mean, Boswa's pushing the best 415 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:57.160 player that packed the hole after five games, as you pointed out, has 416 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:03.039 brought so much toughness and and physicality. But but there's one guy I will 417 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.359 say this, I haven't mentioned it yet. And then to that question, 418 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:15.240 Caleb is a gunslinger. If if you want to go down to Tombstone a 419 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:17.960 hundred years ago and walk into the bar and you know, go through the 420 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.640 doors, and that's the dudes you want with you, right, he is 421 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:30.000 a He is a fearless guy that is going to take big shots. He 422 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.200 did it at Duke. I thought a couple of times he got a little 423 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.519 maybe too aggressive, and that's something you have to work for. But look 424 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.039 who hit the big free throws down the stretch. Caleb. You know that 425 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.920 that that guy's a gunslinger. And I think he's one of those guys that 426 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.440 he's going to be an incredibly good, good asset when it comes tournament time. 427 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.680 Right, no question, So did you read me today, and I 428 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:53.480 asked, Jay, this too, not that I try to have you read. 429 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.960 No, man, I have not read you today. But but but 430 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.680 it's it's on my it's not my sure, it's my list. I'm saved. 431 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.359 Sure you haven't even read my chapter on you in the book. So 432 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:11.240 you let's let's not get carried away. I have to. So I read 433 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.440 that every night. Funny funny. So I went to the coach. I 434 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.160 was the only one that talked to the coach, and I said, one 435 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.000 question, you coach the Kentucky You've been in Oklahoma, You've seen some good 436 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.680 teams. How good is this team? Obviously very good? He said they're 437 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.160 a good final They're a Final four team. And he says, what's what 438 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.079 they have? The inside? They have the outside of the complete package. 439 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.960 And I'm sure you see that too, Yeah, I do. And I 440 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.960 think when you think back, when you think back to like the Sean Miller 441 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.720 teams of fourteen fifteen that easily could have been Final four win the title, 442 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.680 you know they they were definitely on the on the side of a distensive team, 443 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.640 right, not when you think of Tommy Lloyd's team two years ago that 444 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:59.559 was an offensive team and I think last year was a little bit of what 445 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.559 we saw in the first year, but maybe just a little bit less of 446 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:06.960 a ceiling on offense. But this year, to your point, I don't 447 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.519 think I could say it's one or the other, because there are times last 448 00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.160 night that the defense dominated the game and really that's what you know, made 449 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.480 them go on the huge run. But at the same time, their offense 450 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.519 can be special too, So I think it's I think a great call by 451 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.960 that by coach k T. Turn. I mean, it's it's incredibly I 452 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.200 have the best win of anybody in the country right now, and I don't 453 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.559 think anyone could say that anyone out there is better than Arizona unless you make 454 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.319 maybe Kandas right, and those are the two best teams. I don't. 455 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:38.839 I mean, I don't know who else is ranked. Right there's a Purdue 456 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:44.119 or somebody else. None of those teams right now is good. Arizonian Kansas. 457 00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:48.440 Yeah. No. And again what you see though, is that you 458 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.200 see a team that's built for the long haul. Right now. Again, 459 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.039 we're five games into it. We're talking a lot of stuff, and they've 460 00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.079 played you know, some some some easy games. But the way they look 461 00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.079 in terms of guys who come in and out of the game. You know, 462 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.160 you take up Balo, you put in previous you know, you take 463 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.240 out Uh. You know, you take out Caleb Love, you put in 464 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:14.039 Jade and Bradley or or kJ Uh. It's like there's very little drop off 465 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.680 when it when a guy comes out of the game. And that's to me, 466 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.799 that's what's amazing because there were there have been times even with even with 467 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.400 Tommy's a couple of teams, and certainly with Shawn Miller's teams, for there 468 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.359 were five guys on the court and you were going, who's going to score? 469 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:33.680 And right that's that's not a question there are that question isn't isn't happening 470 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.920 right now? You there are guys on the floor who are going to score, 471 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.119 no matter where they are in the rotation. Definitely, definitely and be 472 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.799 and partly because that offense the continuity how they play together. But every one 473 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.079 of them has a skill. It's really high level. Like Jaden Bradley is 474 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.240 not necessarily a score, but many gets to the rim, you know, 475 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.400 he uses his athleticis and gets to the rim, gets to the foul line, 476 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.960 you know, and and and and like you said, all of them 477 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.759 have it. How about Creeps? Cres has been I mean, he's been 478 00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.839 I don't know if i'd say sensational, but he's been an incredibly good player 479 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.839 after four or five games. The dude's gonna grow up quickly because he has 480 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.799 to. And we haven't even talked about a guy who's not even playing. 481 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:23.279 Henry Yeah, who would have been another seven footer, right, played some 482 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:27.720 big minutes last year and and and played well at times, and you know 483 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.799 as a skill set. So no, they're they're they're deeper and their death 484 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.640 is really good. They you know, I really, I really feel like 485 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.519 at this point they almost have seven starters if you have yeah, Bradley and 486 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:44.119 and Crevas. Right, that was the story from last night, because we 487 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:45.480 talked about that and balls to the same peace. So let me let me 488 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.279 ask this because Jay and I were both here. So eighty seven, eighty 489 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.640 eight, eighty eighty nine, you played on those teams, very very good 490 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.000 teams, some of the best all the time. How deep could you have 491 00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:04.880 realistically gone? Well, like eighty eight, you know, Sean Rooks was 492 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.519 red shirting, you know, and he was eventual NBA player for twelve years. 493 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:13.559 You know, jud didn't play a lot, was an NBA player, 494 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.160 you know, So I mean we could have we could have definitely gone ten 495 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:22.240 guys. And I felt like, you know, I felt like those years, 496 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.319 like the Gumbies were they were probably the fifth best team in the fact 497 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.359 twelve. Yeah, that's true. And the reason I said that just because 498 00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.400 look at all the depth here. He's gonna he could go ten if you 499 00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:36.799 wanted to. But let me ask you. Yeah, and and and we 500 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:38.880 haven't really talked about some of the fringe guys on the bench, but I 501 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:44.680 think they had those guys have an excellent chance of producing them being very big 502 00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:49.720 Morauscus especially. I love this game. You know, even the Martinez kid 503 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.519 can play. I mean, he's he's an interesting player. Yeah, but 504 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.480 we'll see, we'll see. Let me hear, just to hear the story 505 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:02.319 one more time about Loot and the Gumbies facing the Starters and how how he 506 00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:07.880 wouldn't let you guys go and tell something happened. Well, I mean, 507 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.599 yeah, for the record, the Starters were, you know, number one 508 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.719 team in the country, so they would beat us Gumbies most of the time, 509 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.920 of course, but every once in a while we'd get hot and then 510 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.119 you know, we beat them, and I remember two or three occasions we 511 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.920 did, and we beat them really good, like we had big you know, 512 00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:28.400 some big moments or whatever. And it was at Iowa and so it's 513 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.400 a lot of stress because Luke was going back for the first time to Iowa 514 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.639 City. I think they were ranked number two. We were ranked number three. 515 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.880 And the day before practice, we the Gumbies destroyed the starters. I 516 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.719 mean we hit every shot possible. Me and Harvey were playing I think bj 517 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:52.079 Armstrong and Jeff No, and we didn't for the whole the whole scrimmage, 518 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.440 and we blew them out. And I think lut was so stressed out about 519 00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.519 that. The next day in shoot around, instead of our normal shoot around, 520 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:05.360 we imaged and he he wanted the starters to beat us, and I 521 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.239 think they got up like eight to two or something. He said, that's 522 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:15.719 it, We're done. We're good. Looking around like, well, I'll 523 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.360 tell you the other thing, you know, I wish Lout was around because 524 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.480 you know, as you guys know, he loved to talk to Smack and 525 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:24.960 uh, I love talking Smack with him the last you know, ten years 526 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:29.840 or so. Uh over a glass of line. But one yet one one 527 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.719 game we were playing in Oregon and it was the day before the same thing, 528 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.280 and we were beating the starters pretty easily, and lot Lou had the 529 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.719 same thing going on, and he started calling fouls against us, and they 530 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.719 were they were cheap fouls. He was just trying to get you know, 531 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.679 get the game back, so they had the confidence in his mind. But 532 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.760 I would get all over it. I got over him about that later, 533 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:51.639 like you guys, you screwed us, screwed us all the calls. Just 534 00:35:51.719 --> 00:36:00.320 so the starters. Matt, what are you talking about that? Faer? 535 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.480 There you go, Thanks you, thank you as always, Thank you man, 536 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.599 Thanks a bunch, Matt, you got it. We'll see it, 537 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.119 Mikay all right, Alice, Hey, thanks a lot. It'd be well, 538 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.159 that was a little fun you know, ay man. This part of 539 00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:14.599 the game, part of being the coach. Sure your team is ready to 540 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:20.800 go, and I'll I'll take my ball home, you thing exactly. That's 541 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.360 pretty funny. All right, we're gonna take our last break. I would 542 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.599 love to take your calls. Five to two, zero, four, one, 543 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.679 six, seventy four forty Oh. It's a short week for us. 544 00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.599 If you want to get in and talk about either of the games. We're 545 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.239 only here today and tomorrow, so be sure to give us a call five 546 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:45.559 to zero four one, six, seventy four forty. 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This 598 00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:30.679 is I on the Ball with Steve Ravera and Jacob Salz on Fox Sports sporteen 599 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.159 fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball hero Fox Sports fourteen 600 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.880 fifty. I'm Steve. He's Jake. We have about twelve minutes if you 601 00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.880 guys want to call. We haven't had any calls so far. Are we 602 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:42.360 done with Jed? We're done with Jed? Poly No, No, I 603 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:44.760 want to play, actually want to pay one more? Okay, let's go 604 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.960 do what the question came up about if you know the Oregon State Oregon game, 605 00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.119 Yeah, Friday night, Okay, yeah, So Arizona's gonna know on 606 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:57.920 Saturday if they're playing for a spot in the PAC TELF Championship game. How 607 00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:01.760 can that affect if it happens it's a week later, when is it? 608 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.639 That's the next week, it's the next Friday. Oh man, we got 609 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:12.519 to go to Vegas the next week. Hard work, but but you know, 610 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.039 so you know? And and the question was you know, are you 611 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:16.360 you know? Are you guys talking about it? Are you not talking about 612 00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:22.800 it? And here's what he had to say. Our guys understand the significance 613 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:28.360 of that game. I told our team yesterday. We're PAC twelve South champions. 614 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.920 They just decided to change the rules of the PACTEVE Championship game a year 615 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:36.440 ago. But if you look at it, you know, we clinched it. 616 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.320 We clinched the Pact of South. So our guys understand that they had 617 00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:45.960 a that's a nice that's a nice little feather in their cap and to be 618 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:50.559 to finish going into Week eleven, to finish ahead of the other programs, 619 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.400 regardless of the outcome of the final week. The second part of it is, 620 00:41:54.039 --> 00:42:00.000 uh, there's no concern at all in my mind about the emotions of 621 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:07.679 our team for this game. We are playing our bitter rival, and it 622 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.960 is a duel in the desert. It is two teams in the state of 623 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.599 Arizona going at it, and I have no concern that, no matter what 624 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:19.599 happens on Friday night between the two Oregon schools, that our play will be 625 00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:24.360 any different at one thirty pm on Saturday. He's right, yeah, he 626 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.119 says all the right thing. Yeah he does. And you know, as 627 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:36.000 an Arizona fan, and look, you really have to dig deep, real 628 00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:39.119 deep, like deep deep to come up with any kind of a silver lining 629 00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:44.039 for the crappy seventy to seven loss. Okay, but it was just the 630 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:47.719 most horrible thing that's ever happened to an Arizona fan in the ASU series. 631 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.760 Yeah, but what you know, you had that, So what you what 632 00:42:53.119 --> 00:43:00.599 you think is that will forever be a thing that they'll be trying to fix 633 00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:07.000 right that they'll be playing Okay, okay from now until forever. So let 634 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.960 me do you thld you threw the word out? How do they how do 635 00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.079 they do that? It's just something that we want you know, we want 636 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.480 to make amends for that, and ten years down the road they saying we 637 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.559 want to kick their asses because they beat a seventy seven ten years sure, 638 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.199 you do the same thing. What does that? Does that directify it? 639 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.079 No, it doesn't ever rectify it. I'm saying it never never rectifies it. 640 00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.719 What I'm saying is that if you're you know, as an air as 641 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.760 an Arizona football player, you know, you'll think back to what they did 642 00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:39.400 to your program ten years ago, and whatever little bit of extra motivation or 643 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:45.840 incentive or sure whatever that he gives you, it gives you something. You 644 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.760 know, And and Jed talked about there's thirteen guys who are still on the 645 00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.760 team who had to experience that. He thinks they're going to have a little 646 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.880 extra juice on Saturday, including two guys that you give him a little extra 647 00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.920 juice. Who knows what happened. And he was a little juiced in his 648 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:00.960 response, Right, he didn't even think about it. He came out of 649 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:02.559 his mouth, right, Yeah, he said, well, you know, 650 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.719 what are you talking? I show him the billboard. Showing the billboard. 651 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.599 That's what I'm saying is that that will always be there as something to say, 652 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.559 this is why we need to go out and play a little harder, 653 00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.079 a little better, you know, do more of the work, because this 654 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.239 happened to us, and you have thirteen dudes or whatever that were here that 655 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:28.239 we're witnessing to it, that had to suffer through it. So, you 656 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.480 know, and maybe twenty five years down the road it's not a big deal, 657 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.920 but maybe it is. Maybe somebody said, you know what, let's 658 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.000 kick there, you know, let's try and beat him seventy to seven the 659 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.239 way they be does whether that can ever happen again or sure, I doubt 660 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:43.679 it could. You know, Look, big difference between this this ASU team 661 00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.199 who was really bad, you know right now, and it's been getting beaten 662 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:50.800 bad. But they're playing for their coach, right, Sure, they're playing 663 00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.239 hard. You know that the seventies, the Airzone team that got seventy seven 664 00:44:53.280 --> 00:45:00.719 had cashed it in a long time higher the aren't not on the ball. 665 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:06.599 Hey god, what's up? This is it? Oh man, I'm on 666 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.440 cloud nine. Haven't come down yet? Holy moly, happy happy Vic today? 667 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:15.800 What do you call him? I had a blast over there at the 668 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:21.239 game through all the rain and uh and the cold, and it was cold, 669 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.800 Steve. It was definitely cold. Okay, I cracked up my nephew. 670 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.960 We got out of the car and he said, you're gonna take your 671 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.079 jacket. I said, yeah, I am, because I'm not. And 672 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.920 the second quarter he was crying his blood off. Man, did you have 673 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:40.199 you I'm sure you've already seen mister Fafita already I did. And man, 674 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.800 after the game, t Max Dad, they brought a boom back, a 675 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:49.119 boom box, like an eighties boom box down there, and he t Max 676 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:53.280 Dad was dancing and dancing. They were pounding Rick James and it was a 677 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:58.559 good party down there in the parents. Uh after the game, so uh, 678 00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:00.360 you know, one of the things that we've been talking about is, 679 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.360 you know, the fans weren't showing up. I'm pissed out. I'm pissed 680 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.519 at him. Uh. You know, you go to the games, you 681 00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:09.639 sat through the rain. You know, what do we say to those guys, 682 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:14.000 Vick, what do we say? Yeah, that's pretty tough because I'm 683 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:15.920 an old geezer too. And I parked a little bit of ways away and 684 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:22.400 got to hook it to the game. I don't get it because it's so 685 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.719 fun, so fun. I mean, I go to all the girls' basketball 686 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.159 games. I don't miss a softball game, and it's a blast, especially 687 00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.840 when you're winning. Especially when you're winning. Yeah, I don't I don't 688 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.280 get it. But I did have a question. I'd been wanting to talk 689 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:44.599 to you guys for a couple of weeks. How big is the Arizona contingent 690 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:52.519 of coaches being to this team? Oh, I think it's been if Jud's 691 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.880 the guy. I mean, these guys are like a skill of one to 692 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:59.880 ten, probably eight or nine. Yeah, because you know Ricky Hunley, 693 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.039 they say, right, uh, Jay try to be here for years and 694 00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:08.679 years and and couldn't get in and and now he's here, and we you 695 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:15.519 know, Brandon Sanders is here. I mean that Kino's I think is is 696 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.719 kind of an X factor. Well, I think I think Duaya Kin is 697 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.239 an X factor because when you think about the coaching staff from last year to 698 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:24.800 this year, what's different? And he's the one that's different. And when 699 00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:28.559 you have a guy like that, I mean you can tell you can feel 700 00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.079 or sense how he resonates with the players even though he's you know, he's 701 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:35.960 an old guy. It's an eighties and nineties guy, and he's still resonates. 702 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.400 It's resonates the perfect he's it's in the delivery because we saw him coach 703 00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:44.199 back in the day and he hasn't changed. He just got greater. That's 704 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:50.719 all amazing. But even dead bringing, I mean that you know, Gronk 705 00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:54.159 and Bootski and and all that stuff on the sideline, even he even had 706 00:47:54.199 --> 00:48:00.280 ideas as a scrimmage coach that one year. And I mean, I think 707 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.360 all that matters. It matters to me because it brings me out, makes 708 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.800 me proud. I think part of you used to be a coach, right, 709 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.159 didn't you coach? I've coached my share of youth baseball and travel ball, 710 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:14.360 okay, But I think that even the kids, the kids and the 711 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.119 young men know that they don't want to disappoint the people that have brought this 712 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.159 opportunity to them, you know. And there's something too that there's there's no 713 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.360 question you're out there on the field playing for your your coach or whatever. 714 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.800 That's just again one more thing that you're playing for that motivates you exactly. 715 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.320 Yeah, you're what's that saying, run through a wall for that guy or 716 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.320 whatever? Right, And they're beating, they're beating the crowd. They're beating 717 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.639 the teams that I never thought they would beat them, and they're not even 718 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:44.400 making it close. Yeah. Well, I had one last thing to say. 719 00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:49.400 So with all this talk about Jed and him leaving if he does leave 720 00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:53.119 in the next year, So you your caller, Gabriel scooped everybody. I 721 00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.639 know. I know that. You know. Look and when you're at Arizona 722 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.239 and you have a good coach, that's just what happened. Sure, you 723 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.840 know, that's just what happened, unless unless miracles happen. Right, I 724 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.440 mean, how many times did did somebody try to hire Dick? How many 725 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.880 times somebody try to hire It's just gonna happen. Well, I'm praying to 726 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.119 stay. I don't got much money, but I'm gonna go. Kid, 727 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.639 Well, you're you're going to the games. Yeah, and that's the thing 728 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.480 you're going to know. That's a big deal. You're you're there as opposed 729 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.880 to other people who are not. So yeah. Yeah, okay, all 730 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.239 right, you guys, hut foot down and I'm on pins and needles till 731 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.400 Friday. And have you just said you were on cloud nine. I was 732 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.039 gonna say, have fun the cloud. Yeah, there's pins and needles up 733 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:42.320 there too. Holy cow, all right, you have so much fun. 734 00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.880 We sat in back of the CDEO football team and when that first quarter you 735 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:52.079 guys were high fiving and hugging them young kids, and it was a blast. 736 00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.960 I can't believe more people don't go. Man, it's upsetting. Okay, 737 00:49:55.119 --> 00:50:00.760 thanks, thanks, Okay, you take care. Yeah, because dudes, 738 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.320 he's just always nervous. Well again, I've told you meal times. 739 00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.280 I hate this game. I hate it. You don't even go, You're 740 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.039 not I don't go. We're here this weekend. We I'm sure we could 741 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:13.000 get tickets and go to the game, and we're just not going to go. 742 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.599 You know, I hate being up there with those fans and it look 743 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.320 and they hate being down in the rest. I mean, it's vice versus 744 00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.800 I'm not saying anything, you know, but I would just rather I would 745 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:28.920 rather not go be comfortable than to go up there with all the tension that 746 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.159 and probably I put on myself, right, you know, I do it, 747 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.039 you know I do it to myself. But they do things too, 748 00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.199 So I'd just rather put it on, put it on. We'll have a 749 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:42.079 watch party or something at our house maybe or whatever, and go and have 750 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.800 a great time watching. I'm going up and it's gonna be a long day 751 00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.760 because you drive two hours, you know, park and walk and watch and 752 00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:52.280 then right and then two hours back. I don't know. Okay, we 753 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.840 we talked about this just before we went to break. Our last show of 754 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.840 the week is tomorrow is tomorrow, so no pickskin picks. So yeah, 755 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.280 we're gonna skip the picks. Well, we'll pull, we'll do We'll do 756 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.360 our picks because we have to make not tomorrow, at the end of the 757 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.559 week, right, we'll make our picks, you know, at the end 758 00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.400 of the week or whenever Steve wants to take some games on Thursday or whatever. 759 00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:15.880 But we'll post our picks this weekend. You'll see what we've done. 760 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.199 Steve and I are tied this week, and we're gonna stay tied because we 761 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:25.119 both have the chiefs. Tonight, I'm really really really really really really mad 762 00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:30.039 at the Lions. That's six seven really, I had a perfect week going. 763 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.280 I was three for three On Saturday. I took the Lions against the 764 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.239 Bears, thinking that was an easy money and the Lions they did the worst 765 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.360 thing possible, they won, but they didn't. So I have a couple 766 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:44.320 of friends that picked the Lions in their in their suicide pool or whatever they 767 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:45.960 call it, and they said, well, don't look good, and then 768 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:51.079 they and then we got teased. I got teased. See how it ended. 769 00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:53.719 But they fumbled the ball and rolls into the end zone, fall on 770 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.239 the damn ball, and we cover and they got kicked out of the end 771 00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.000 zone. It's like, you know, the life of somebody's picking games. 772 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:05.679 It's just it's just we We reported the scorel of Bitegos. Gonzaga was up 773 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:08.280 five at the half or Purdue in the in the Maui invitation. They are 774 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:13.519 now down twelve. Uh with less than a minute lest people are hoping that 775 00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:17.400 Purdue Tode doesn't lose, gets maybe to the one or two spot, and 776 00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:22.239 then Arizona eventually faces Yeah, so be careful what you wish for, man. 777 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.159 But well, so they're still up there, so I think they will 778 00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:29.519 take on Tennessee tomorrow. So she's good too. Yeah, they're good. 779 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.119 Well, they're seven in the country. So hey, thanks everybody for being 780 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:34.360 here. We had a great time with you. We hope you had a 781 00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.719 great time with us, and we'll be back tomorrow for our last day. 782 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.840 Of the week. So if you want to get your your thoughts in on 783 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.480 theirs, on an ASU game or Arizona's game against Michigan State and basketball on 784 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.559 Thursday, give us a call tomorrow five because there are four one six EEV 785 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:52.679 before forty. Listen to the podcast and subscribe and we'll be here tomorrow. 786 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.840 I have a good sampling in Atlanta.