1 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,079 What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to the Happy Hour Live at 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:23,839 five. We were talking the Clippers extending ty Lou. There's a little bit 3 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:30,440 of chatter about a possible Zoobots extension on the way, so we're gonna break 4 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,560 down that, get your guys' thoughts on everything. But in case you missed 5 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,960 it, this is Clips and Dent. I am Chuck Mockler, usually joined 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,640 by Adam Oslin and William Updyke. They are unavoidably detained. We're gonna try 7 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:43,880 and get some random other people in here, so it should be a good 8 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,799 time. But yes, if you're listening on audio, you missed the YouTube 9 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,719 live. We're hanging out. It's Wednesday. It doesn't feel like a Friday 10 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:55,520 at all. But the Clippers made some moves and we're going to talk about 11 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:02,399 it. We have our first YouTube comment saying I hate it. That doesn't 12 00:01:02,439 --> 00:01:07,239 make any sense. I don't Steve Rodriguez is on the chat saying he hates 13 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:12,319 this. I don't hate it. I think it's a pretty good move. 14 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:19,400 He's a very good coach. He has had a healthy team not very often. 15 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,680 He can't coach Kawhi Leonard's knees. I wish he could. I think 16 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:29,359 he would be a great knee coach, but it's it's a who else who 17 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,879 else was going to coach the Clippers. The other thing I think to consider 18 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:40,159 what's up j Bosadi four. I think the other thing to consider this with 19 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:44,599 this is, you know we saw Dan Craig Leeve. I'm assuming he left, 20 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:49,319 probably because he maybe knew this extension was coming, or just figured, 21 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:52,840 oh, I want to be a head coach. Maybe somewhere else. They 22 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:57,200 went to a worst team, But I think resigning Tylero is a good idea. 23 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,040 This I absolutely cannot steve, but the team was cooked either way, 24 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:08,360 so I don't think we can use that performance. I'm not gonna sit here 25 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,879 and pretend like him playing PJ. Tucker was a good move. It was 26 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,520 a bad move, but the Clippers were probably not winning that series without Kahi 27 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:21,120 Leonard, So I don't think chalk again he had to make a move because 28 00:02:21,159 --> 00:02:24,919 Cohile Leonard was hurt. I don't know who else people wanted to come in 29 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,039 and coach this team. I don't think it seems like I don't think Tyler 30 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:34,879 re signs a deal with the team. That's like blowing it up in any 31 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:39,199 Way, some people in the chat are asking what this means for pg's free 32 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:45,759 agency. All the reports are saying that, you know, the Clippers want 33 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:53,479 to run it back with you know, James Harden and and Paul George. 34 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,280 Let me see where there's a quote today from the Woes article. Here we 35 00:02:57,319 --> 00:03:00,800 go. Joey Linn had the tweet up said the Clippers are determined to keep 36 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,879 Paul George and James Harden in free agency, and the organization moves. As 37 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,280 the organization moves into the new state of the arena, we'll see what happens 38 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,159 with the PG contract. What I think is gonna happen is I think he's 39 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,840 gonna end up getting a MAX and then probably ends up getting shipped out somewhere. 40 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:21,560 That's based on nothing, but that seems like where we are. But 41 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,800 I think resigning Tyler is a good move. He's one of the top coaches 42 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:30,159 in the NBA. He's been Delta roughhand. Sure he makes frustrating decisions. 43 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:32,639 No coach is perfect. I don't think there is a coach that's perfect for 44 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:40,639 a team who's two stars are consistently unavailable. I just I don't really know. 45 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:46,879 You can't really talk me out of this being a good idea, mostly 46 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:52,639 because A It's already happened, so I'm not sure what we're supposed to do 47 00:03:52,719 --> 00:03:58,199 there. And B Steve Balmer loves him. We've heard him quote about it. 48 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,680 We've heard quotes about that from him. We've heard a lou talk about 49 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,400 how much he loves it here. So it shouldn't be a surprise if anyone 50 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:11,599 can offer a good a good alternative to a team that's gonna be running it 51 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:16,000 back again and again and again. I'd like to hear it because I'm not 52 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,120 really sure who comes in and coaches this team in a way better than Tyler 53 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:27,480 that takes them further with the personnel issues they have in terms of health. 54 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:32,920 So I don't know. I think it's a good signing there was no one 55 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,279 to promote after Dan Craig left. It's just it seems like I don't know, 56 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,639 I will say this does how can I phrase this? We heard Lawrence 57 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,160 Frank talk like what was the quote like, we know we can't just run 58 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:57,199 it back, let me run it back. What did he say, we 59 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:03,439 know we can't just run it back or something like that, like we can't 60 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:09,759 do this whole thing again. It does feel like we're kind of leaning into 61 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,079 that, right. So at this point, we have Kawhi Leonard back, 62 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:17,120 we have Tyler back, which kind of no matter what I think was gonna 63 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:23,600 happen, and we're waiting on Paul George to hopefully take less than the max, 64 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:30,040 and we need James Harden to take like three for one ten and then 65 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:32,279 we would officially kind of be running it back, which is a little terrifying 66 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:38,000 because we're locked into that second apron So I get the trepidation from that standpoint, 67 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,720 but I think there's moves to be made. If they do run it 68 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,639 back to start this season, why not Clippers with the comment does this mean 69 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,839 l Frank will be gone? Something needs to change? This kind of jumping 70 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:55,240 off this I this take and this idea. There's absolutely a disconnect right now 71 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,439 between the front office and TYLERU. I don't know who's fall it is, 72 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,240 but we've seen them publicly in the press say different things about what they want 73 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,519 to see from this team. Right they didn't want a guy like Russell Westbrook, 74 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:12,000 then Tyler and Paul George, to Jay Bose's point, commenting, how 75 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,680 you know Tyler really likes Paul George campaigned for Russell Westbrook. So there is 76 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,480 some friction. I don't know who fixes the friction between the front office and 77 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:25,279 the head coach. I guess that's Steve Baumer's job or whatever Lee Jenkins is 78 00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:29,759 doing. He can mend that. But there is like, this is a 79 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:31,319 good point. Why not Clippers, because there does need to be like a 80 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,120 get on the same page, retreat of some kind. Go to the desert, 81 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:39,240 no phones, figure out how to build a fire and put a shelter 82 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:43,399 together, and then maybe we'll get the roster where these things work, right. 83 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:46,600 We saw Tyleru play Moses Brown kind of out of spite. We saw 84 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Laurence Frank kind of trade Reggie Jackson in John Walla. These point guards away 85 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:57,839 that Tyleru was using. So it's been this weird back and forth clash of 86 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,959 ideologies. So I think why not the Clippers brings up a good point here. 87 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,720 Something does need to change. I don't know if Lornce Frank is going 88 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:10,279 anywhere. I don't know if that's the big change that's a monumental change, 89 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:13,399 but it's something to keep an eye on. You know, when we get 90 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:17,839 to the draft and we get to kind of seeing maybe what can happen in 91 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:21,560 free agency. Again, the Clippers are really hamstrung with what they can do 92 00:07:21,639 --> 00:07:26,680 in actual free agency, and maybe we'll hear some quotes coming about what this 93 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,160 team needs and hopefully they'll be on the same page, because there is some 94 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,399 friction there. Greggy, what's up? Greg? I feel like he's always 95 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:39,680 in these chats. He's bringing up. Gregor's bringing up something that is a 96 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,680 fair point. It's gonna be a problem if we don't give the young guys 97 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,639 we do have some playing time, if they find a way to get rid 98 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:48,759 of Russ, Plumb and PJ or potentially i PG is also gone. The 99 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,519 other big knock on TYLERU, which I do agree with. Again, no 100 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:56,079 coach is perfect. The young guys are never getting a shot on this team, 101 00:07:56,079 --> 00:08:00,279 which is a little difficult. You know, GREGI mentions getting rid of 102 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,800 Russ. I would love it a for us to enoughed into his player option 103 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:09,680 because we have Bones Island who had some body language and vibe issues during the 104 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,519 season. Again, not gonna sit here, butten that was all Rosie, 105 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,040 but I think there was some I just think that was he left it. 106 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,160 He wanted to get a Denver four playing time he got playing time and make 107 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,680 the hard and trade. Russ has to be convinced to go to the bench, 108 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:31,199 and that leaves Bones Highland out to drive, mostly because Tyleru, through 109 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:33,919 either trying to make sure the locker room was okay or favoritism are a little 110 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:39,519 both played Russ as the backup point guard. So GREGGI, I agree there's 111 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,399 a young guy thing. There's only like two young guys who could make an 112 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,159 actual impact next year for the Clippers, and I think that is Bones Island 113 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,320 obviously, and then probably Kobe Brown. I don't really think Jordan Miller is 114 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,000 going to get the time that some people want. But we've just seen I 115 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,519 think we've seen more from Kobe Brown at the NBA level. Again, not 116 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,000 a whole lot of it, but it is more than what we've seen from 117 00:09:03,039 --> 00:09:07,759 Jordan Miller and Bones. We've seen a whole lot of him being effective and 118 00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:11,600 selfishly he's a lot more fun to watch play basketball than some of the other 119 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:16,519 Clippers. So yeah, I would agree that there's gonna there needs to be 120 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:22,559 some young guy integration into the Clippers roster existing young guys because it's not like 121 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,960 we're you know, whoever we get at forty six, which we can talk 122 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,000 about too. If anyone has any forty six pick ideas, I'm not gonna 123 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,600 shoot any of them down because I have no idea who we should take at 124 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:37,559 forty six. Oh damn okay, I will say, admittedly I forgot kai 125 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:43,480 Jones. That's my bad. Kai kai Jones stands. Please please don't please 126 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,840 don't dox me or whatever you guys do. Kai Jones also on that list 127 00:09:46,879 --> 00:09:50,120 of the guys who could who should probably get more of a shot. Next 128 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,799 year, we're gonna see him in Summer League. I think Summer League is 129 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:58,679 kind of designed I think for guys like kai Jones's player type to excel. 130 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:01,000 I think kai Jones is gonna have a really fun to watch summer league. 131 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:05,679 Will that translate to actual being good for an NBA team? I don't know. 132 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:07,960 I hope so well. The Clippers need all they can get. But 133 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,440 he's a big guy who is athletic, and that is, you know, 134 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:15,919 the Clippers issue. Lawrence Frank pointed that out, So GREGI thank you for 135 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,480 checking me. I meant no disrespect to the kai Jones army. So it's 136 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,440 kai Jones, Kobe Brown, and then Bones I think are the three young 137 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:28,679 guys who should get more playing time from Tyloo next year. That would be 138 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:37,399 a nice change from what we have seen from TYLERU shar is asking could Bones 139 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,519 be traded? Lou didn't seem to want to play him, and there's no 140 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,720 reason to keep him with Harden and Westbrooker taking all the point guard minutes. 141 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,159 I think he could be traded. I would feel bad for Bones if he 142 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,919 was traded. His work seems like it's not the Clipper. I don't know 143 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:54,679 what the Clippers are trading for to help the team by getting rid of Bones. 144 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:01,399 I guess like another second round pick. That doesn't really so let's just 145 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,000 keep Bones. Then we need more youth. The big if here is if 146 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:09,039 what hardened? Westbrook are taking all the point guard minutes, So Harden obviously 147 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,879 hopefully is taking those point guard minutes because there's no one on the roster now 148 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:16,200 and there's no one who I think they can add who would be better than 149 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,559 James Harden. But if Westbrook is gone, maybe on a team where he 150 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:26,159 gets more minutes and stuff like that, then it opens the door for Bones. 151 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:28,399 I mean, if Westbrook is not on the team, I think it 152 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:33,399 makes sense to assume that Bones is the backup point guard because there's there's no 153 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:41,519 one else who can or should play point guard. So yeah, I the 154 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:45,559 knocks on Tyler are all ones that I do mostly agree with, right right, 155 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Like the young guys should maybe a little more playing time. Why on 156 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:54,360 earth would you ever play PJ? Tucker? And I guess I wish he 157 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,960 learned how to do surgery so he could be more useful for the team. 158 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,039 I don't know, but the kylou thing it was, it was a good 159 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,919 decision Forgotten lo ol Cow says, I think it was a good decision. 160 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:11,559 Well said, Forgotten lol Cow. Thank you Blood Orange cheers. Y'all hit 161 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:18,120 that like Button, appreciate that. If you have your tylu takes, drop 162 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:20,840 them in the chat. JM one through two four says, would you trade 163 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,799 Bones Highland for Quentin Drimes and do a three team deal with Orlando where Terrence 164 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:31,279 goes to Utah, Norm goes to Orlando and the Clips get John Collins and 165 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:39,279 second round picks? Uh No, I don't think the Clippers. I don't 166 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:43,279 think no, because I just know I think the Clippers need to keep Terrence 167 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,840 Man and it beats the Zubats on this team as long as possible. Uh, 168 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:58,639 there is uh Zubot's extension looming. Apparently that was the other part of 169 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:05,440 the things that we heard today that like they're kind of maybe working on an 170 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,679 extension for Zoo. I was on Twitter, I had I think it was 171 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,039 I had maybe after I had had some fun at the barbecue, and I 172 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:16,399 tweeted out that I think four for one hundred for of Eatza Zoobots makes sense 173 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,840 for all parties involved. Twenty five million a year with the cap going up 174 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:24,600 for a young center who's available and has been in the same coaches system for 175 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,480 a very long time, seems worth it to me. He's very good. 176 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:33,200 He was the clipper second best player in the playoffs this year. I don't 177 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,720 know, I think that's worth it. I hope that happens. But keeping 178 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,759 Terrence and Zoo, those are guys that you need as an organization. You 179 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,080 need some homegrown guys, right. I know we traded for Zoo, but 180 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:48,679 he was basically homegrown. We drafted Terrence very late. Those are those are 181 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,679 the kinds of guys you need on your team to make the team better. 182 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,799 I don't know how else to put that without sounding like an idiot. Terrence 183 00:13:56,879 --> 00:14:01,120 is making eleven million per year right now, which is underpaid. He's an 184 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:07,080 unrestricted free agent after this season. He can hold the Clippers over a barrel. 185 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,799 So could Zoo. But I think I hope they get it done. 186 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:13,360 I hope they get the Zoo thing done. I hope he's happy he doesn't 187 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:16,200 rock the boat. I know Zoo can be a polarizing figure with some people. 188 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:22,039 I don't fully understand why. Maybe it's his body language when he gets 189 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:26,360 pouty. It's a little ugly to watch. But I love Zoo is good 190 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:30,320 for this team. He's one of the few same guys we've had who's also 191 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:35,480 good. And I think it's very hard as a Clippers fan. It's hard 192 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:39,840 for me to hear, uh, just logically getting rid of guys who are 193 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:45,000 young, available and get better, because those are guys that the Clippers don't 194 00:14:45,039 --> 00:14:46,720 have. They have like two of those guys, and it's Terrence and Zoo, 195 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:54,039 and they're young by Clippers standards. Blood Orange cheers saying let's go Nicks. 196 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:58,240 Is there a potential Knicks and Clippers trade for Paul George. I don't 197 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,519 think so. That's that was loaded last year, that it was like these 198 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:05,240 picks, I think Julius Randall, but then it came out that it wasn't 199 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,840 as it was like the Picks were heavily protected because of Paul George wanting a 200 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:16,960 max contract. So I don't know if that I don't know if that offer's 201 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,320 gotten better from the Knicks, which makes sense. Giving Paul George a max 202 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:24,639 contract is a difficult pill to swallow. So I do not think there is 203 00:15:24,679 --> 00:15:26,799 a potential Knicks and Clippers trade for Paul George. If there is, it 204 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:33,759 probably involves Julius Randall or something, and I think both fan bases go okay, 205 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:41,240 all right, but I don't think that's really there. Gregy says, 206 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,039 how do you feel about the da of moving PG and Kawhi back to the 207 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,639 two and three. I think they might have to they I mean, I 208 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,240 I take that back as soon as I said it. I don't want Paul 209 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,440 George handling the ball anymore. He can't do it. He just can't. 210 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:02,519 He can't be the two. Lawrence Frank mentioned even get maybe another wing, 211 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,879 So I think they're going to try and get another athletic four maybe, or 212 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,720 I don't know. It's a very good question. I could see them maybe 213 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:14,919 doing it, But at the same time, I don't know if Tyleru wants 214 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,720 to deal with that, because who do we bring in at the four. 215 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:22,080 We're so shallow at the four that it feels it just doesn't feel like we 216 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:26,080 have enough on the roster. Do that if that makes sense. Totally legitimate 217 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:29,320 question, But I don't know if the Clippers have enough at the four. 218 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:36,039 They can't really sign anyone who's that good because of the salary cap to start 219 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,240 a guy at the four, which sucks. So I like the idea of 220 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,080 that, I just don't think they're able to do it because of how the 221 00:16:41,159 --> 00:16:47,840 roster's currently constructed. Steve Rodriguez is fuming about Tyleru. He said, why 222 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,200 would he want to leave a job where basically any mistakes he makes get forgiven 223 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,000 by the idea that Kawhi is gjured. He wasn't going anywhere. I like 224 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,480 that he's using the idea that Kawhi is injured. Kawai was injured. It 225 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:04,680 wasn't an idea the medicals often think he was injured. He's very much injured. 226 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,200 We can't we can't Kawi is very good. We can't rewrite history here 227 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,119 and say he's been healthy and yet why why would he want to leave that 228 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,000 job? I don't know the idea that I wish it was an idea that 229 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:23,799 Kawhi is injured. The man is really hurt, so was Paul George. 230 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:32,599 Old Man Yen says if PG walks, do we have other options? Not? 231 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:37,759 Really. The way that the second apron is set up is such that 232 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:44,319 if we lose so Paul George and his forty whatever million, if he just 233 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:48,400 opts out and then leaves, the Clippers do not now have a forty million 234 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:55,240 dollar hole they can like fill up. So no, not for MAX guys, 235 00:17:55,319 --> 00:17:59,480 they don't have other options if Paul George leaves. I think some other 236 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:02,400 things need to happen. But then we can get under the first apron, 237 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:06,680 or excuse me, under the second apron, and then we get the mid 238 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:11,680 level exception back or one of the mid level exceptions back. So the other 239 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,559 options aren't good. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like losing Paul George 240 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:19,480 for absolutely nothing is good. It's not ideal. If he does sign the 241 00:18:19,519 --> 00:18:23,279 MAX again, this is not an original take. I think maybe we see 242 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:30,880 him moved Jbo's eighty four saying come on, Larry Fingers, do your magic 243 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,240 and give us another rebuild on the fly. Just rebuild it. It's very 244 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:38,640 simple. You just you just rebuild the team. But a good way to 245 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:47,960 rebuild the team is you keep the coach and you keep your young, good 246 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:52,440 defensive center who's gotten better every single year, and then you resign Ternesman. 247 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,599 That is a good way to kind of start the rebuild. If anyone has 248 00:18:56,599 --> 00:19:03,240 any draft ideas, drop them in the chat. I've seen hundreds of different 249 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,519 suggestions, and I cannot tell you which one I like more or which one 250 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:11,200 I like less. If you're just jumping in the stream, we are talking 251 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:15,279 Tyloo signing a long term contract with the Clippers. If you if you hear 252 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:21,680 me, say Calcus just short for calculator. I feel pretty good about this 253 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:27,480 signing. Jbo's eighty four saying build around Zobots. Don't know about that, 254 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:33,000 uh, but he has been a useful piece in building around Paul George and 255 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:37,519 kawhi Oh. Chunk Sampson. Usually love when Chunk Sampson is in the chat, 256 00:19:37,839 --> 00:19:41,519 but he's saying DeRozan will be a Clipper. I hope not. There 257 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:52,440 are reports that uh DeRozan and Chris Paul are the uh some targets for the 258 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,000 Clippers, and that doesn't make any sense. They're old, They're old and 259 00:19:56,039 --> 00:20:00,839 slow, and this team is already old and slow. I don't know if 260 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,480 adding older, slower players is the right call here. You know, Nick 261 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,119 Patoom's a free agent. Why don't we just sign everyone who is old and 262 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:14,960 used to be a Clipper? Right? The old guy? It's insane. 263 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,640 I don't want people retiring here. We already had Paul Pierce. We don't 264 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:26,160 need to like keep doing these like weird diet Paul Pierce. It's not gonna 265 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,640 be that bad, but we don't have to do those kinds of signings. 266 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:36,319 I don't think it's not needed. Greg, Yes, no more old guys, 267 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,160 please, we don't need it. We need to keep our young guys. 268 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,799 We need to keep Terrence Mann, who eats his bouts and bones Island. 269 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,640 He needs to be proven a little bit more though, and we need 270 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,480 to go from there, and then we'll trade Paul George for whatever. JM 271 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,680 saying, what about a Matisse table trade for PJ Sucker and seconds? Who 272 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:56,559 doesn't do it? I don't know who doesn't do it? Does that even 273 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:06,319 work financially, let's look at Mattis Tiples contract that does work financially. I 274 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:12,279 believe that's very funny. Yeah, I guess do that. Where did that 275 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:19,039 comment go? What the would the Blazers do that? I have no idea. 276 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:27,319 They're they're bad. You might be onto something here. I tell I 277 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:34,640 don't think they would do that. Their team is very bad. Games started, 278 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:41,039 he started nineteen games for him, he was not very good. But 279 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,839 I guess he's young. I don't sure. Just get him on, Just 280 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,039 get PJ off the team, or wave and stretch him. If the Clippers 281 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:52,799 wave and stretch PJ, his eleven mil becomes like three point whatever, and 282 00:21:52,839 --> 00:21:56,559 that's fine. And he's away from the team and he can't corrapt corrupt bones 283 00:21:56,599 --> 00:22:00,200 Island, and how he feels about not getting playing time, which is a 284 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:06,240 conspiracy theory I will hold forever. Yeah, So, Chunk Sampson, this 285 00:22:06,319 --> 00:22:07,519 is where we are. We're in a rock and a hard place. Chunk 286 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:11,640 Sampson is asking, but we basically have to sign PG to a max. 287 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,839 So you're saying that's what we are doing. Yes, that's what kind of 288 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,799 sucks about the whole second apron thing. The Clippers are stuck. There's no 289 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:25,799 flexibility. There's flexibility in the context of a stuck team, if that makes 290 00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:26,799 sense, Like, oh, they got a little bit of wiggle room, 291 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:33,559 but there is no real flexibility here. They kind of have to sign Paul 292 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:38,200 George to a max because if you don't, he's just gone. And while 293 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,559 that cathartically might feel good for some Clippers fans, on the court, it's 294 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,559 rough on the court. It is the worst team. And again, they 295 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:51,759 can't just fill in that spot with that money. So yes, it kind 296 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:53,559 of sucks. I'm gonna take a quick audio break if you're listening to the 297 00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:57,160 audio. Need that add money? Uh, and we'll be back in two 298 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,680 seconds. All right, back on the life, No harm, no foul, 299 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:06,000 Thanks for hanging out. We're talking ty Loo signing a long term contract 300 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:11,319 to remain the Clippers coach. Clue Wave Cool says, at least with Kawhi, 301 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:14,599 we know it's injury. Never have to question his want in ability. 302 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:22,440 PG is an inconsistent wind with identity issues. Wow, calling someone an inconsistent 303 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:26,599 wind is maybe one of the harsher things I've ever heard. Well played, 304 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:30,319 did you mean to call that person? Did you mean to call Paul George 305 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:37,680 an inconsistent wind. That feels so mean. That's like soulfully mean. Maybe 306 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,599 I'm losing my mind, but I'm if I if I called if someone called 307 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,960 me an inconsistent wind to my face, I'd feel like I just heard a 308 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:52,920 flash bang go off. Well said clue wave cool. I don't know if 309 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,720 I'm going to the point of calling Paul George an inconsistent wind. Uh, 310 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,400 but I might. That is brutal. I'm going to remember that for the 311 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,319 rest of my life. Uh, Steve Rodriguez said. Steve Rodriguez said yeah. 312 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,240 Lucas said that if Paul George Watson can keep Harden for about forty mil, 313 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:12,880 they get an mL LEA. Yeah, so it's the mid level exception. 314 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:17,359 I think with the hardened contract too. You re signed Harden to the 315 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:23,920 same length that uh that Kawhi's signed to. Right, you keep it three 316 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:29,160 years? You do like one twenty for three years. That's forty mil. 317 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:37,720 That's not crazy. M Okay. People are saying they think he meant wing, 318 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,799 but I'm hearing no, he is wind, inconsistent wind. We're keeping 319 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,480 it. If you were in the stream for the birth of referring to Paul 320 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:51,039 George as an inconsistent wind. Well, no, we'll know that you're down 321 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:56,960 with Clipson. Dam this is so funny. I'm dying at this M. 322 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:04,400 It's so that's so fun inconsistent wind is fire? Ummm so mean old man. 323 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,079 Yeah. Does Paul George deserve more than Kawhi? Who am I to 324 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:14,920 say? We need to check on what deserve means? Ummm, I don't 325 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,480 know. He's consistently been the highest paid player on the Clippers. He will 326 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:22,240 be the highest paid player on the Clippers. I think after these contract negotiations, 327 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,039 it's going to happen. Kawhi took less than the MAX, seemingly out 328 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,400 of the goodness of his heart. Paul George doesn't want that. Paul George 329 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,759 shouldn't want that. I get Paul George wanting a MAX. He's an injury 330 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:41,440 guy who's only getting older. It's his last big contract. M. Joseph 331 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,599 Alvarez is hopping in the chat. He's new Calcus just calculator, Uh, 332 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:52,160 Calcus, just calculator. He's asking what a CALKI is. John renigue Fo 333 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,880 saying just joined high Familion. How's it going, John? You missed it? 334 00:25:56,079 --> 00:26:00,119 But someone called Paul George an inconsistent wind and it's the meanest thing any 335 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:06,799 of us has ever heard someone say to another player, shout out clue wave. 336 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,480 Cool for that. Uh l z Oh asked sign and trade Paul George 337 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:17,160 the Rockets for the third pick, and Jabari Smith. I don't know, 338 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,119 man, this draft is not good. I believe that's what everyone is saying. 339 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,480 I'm not a draft guy. I don't watch I watch college basketball for 340 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:32,559 one week. Uh. I would not do that in this draft. If 341 00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:34,599 they didn't do it for Scoot Henderson. I don't know if they're going to 342 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:42,079 be doing that for a worse draft. It seems fair question, but I 343 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,759 don't know if that will happen again. Chunk Samson asked me, what do 344 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,039 we think about Norm. I'm kind of on the fensive training because he's not 345 00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:52,960 just a playoff player to me, no matter what we get, because I 346 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,720 still love Norm. Uh Yeah. Norm is weird. He makes like twenty 347 00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:03,799 ish million. He's really just an He's a shooting threat. That's what he 348 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:07,720 does. He doesn't really run the pick and roll. Sometimes people compare him 349 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,640 to Lou Williams in terms of roll, not in terms of vibe or in 350 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,440 terms of impact, but in terms of role, I think he gets compared 351 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,599 to him. But lou Will could run the hell out of a pick and 352 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:22,079 roll and Norm Powell isn't asked to do that. He's a little It's it's 353 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:26,680 tough to look at his playoff stuff because with a fully healthy team, you'd 354 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,799 think if you run a five out lineup with Norm and then like PG Kawhi, 355 00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:36,799 Terrence and then James Harden or something like that, you think it could 356 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,319 work. Right that that that in your head, that works on paper. 357 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,799 We saw the Powell Rangers lineup where it's you know, James Harden, Kawhi, 358 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,839 PG Zoo and Norman Powell. That has a lot of juice to it. 359 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,519 But it's a weird situation. I think we got to keep Norm though 360 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:56,680 he he's got two more years on his contract. I think the CAP's only 361 00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,000 kind of going up, But that could be an argument to trade him in 362 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,079 terms of value. But I love Norm too. It's a weird spot. 363 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:06,559 I think he sticks. I think he sticks. I think he's a good 364 00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:11,640 locker room guy. Steve Rodriguez is saying keep Norm. He's also scarred for 365 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:15,839 life from that elbow, so I think they should keep Norm as a favor 366 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,759 for that, because that's crazy. But no, I think you gotta keep 367 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:26,799 Norm. I don't think you re signed Norm for anything crazy. If there's 368 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,960 a mood to be made where the Clippers can get younger at the larger positions 369 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,119 than what Norm plays, I think that'd be a trade that you maybe make, 370 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,440 right would would you trade Norm and whatever to get younger at the four? 371 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,319 I probably would. I just don't know if that's even doable. I 372 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,440 don't know who's out there who makes twenty two million dollars, who's a four, 373 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:59,160 who's on a team that has too many wings. People talked about trading 374 00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:07,160 Nor to the Magic for Jonathan Isaac, which, first of all, Jonathan 375 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:14,599 Isaac wouldn't move to a coastal elite city. And there's also some weird salary 376 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:18,559 cap stuff with that where the Magic couldn't like do that trade. There's something 377 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,799 with the money coming in from that that they would not be able to take 378 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,880 that trade. So I mean that, like on paper, that trade makes 379 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,240 sense, right, they need a guard who can score, Clippers need to 380 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,240 get younger, but it just financially doesn't work. So yeah, again, 381 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:41,319 the Clippers have no flexibility. It's rocking a hard place. They're most likely 382 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,960 at the beginning of the season, this team is going to look the same 383 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:52,200 for the most part. Right I think the backup center thing is weird because 384 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:59,920 you have Daniel Tice, who is not the height of a center but showed 385 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:04,759 that in limited shooting could stretch the floor a bit for the Clips. And 386 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:10,559 Mason Plumley. I don't know if he's coming back. He was rough coming 387 00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:15,279 back after the injury that he suffered from Julius Randall weirdly enough, uh so, 388 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,279 I don't know if he's going back. So it's like it's it's just 389 00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:22,119 the big guys that the Clippers should I think worry about. It's just getting 390 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,359 younger and more size of the four and the five. That's where the Kai 391 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Jones comes in and hopefully he can give you some spot minutes and you can 392 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:36,880 see his development start a little bit. There's some possibilities ish that are guys 393 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:44,200 that are already on this roster, but who knows. Manu Sandoval near to 394 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,079 the chat commenting, he said, best option right now is to run it 395 00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:51,920 back and a couple of the young guys keep developing. I mean, yeah, 396 00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:55,000 that's that's where we are. It's great that you said that's the best 397 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:57,480 option because it feels like that's exactly what the Clippers are going to do and 398 00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:03,079 have been doing. You hope you can kind of get a little bit of 399 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,640 money off the books. You you stretch, and you know, you wave 400 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,039 and stretch PJ. That takes you down. Russ doesn't come back. That 401 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,519 takes down a little bit. Again, these aren't huge moves. You wave, 402 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:23,200 Mason, get that off the books. Justin Russo had a great article 403 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,319 about the cap. I'm gonna put it in the chat real quick. But 404 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,000 yeah, uh man, you know you're kind of right like that. This 405 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:36,359 is you hope the young guys keep develop and you also kind of back to 406 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:42,519 the Tyloo thing. You also hope that they get those chances. You know. 407 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,240 I don't want to sound, you know, like a dick or anything 408 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,440 like that, but I don't The G League is great. We've seen these 409 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,200 guys dominate in the G League. That's great. Let's get them a little 410 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,960 I don't. I know it's hard to find them time, But if Pj's 411 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,640 off the team, if Russ is off the team, there's two spot where 412 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,480 you can get some of these minutes right bones Hiland can get that run, 413 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:07,359 you can get limited if you get also bring in a new wing you can 414 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:14,680 give Kobe or Kai Jones these like third string wing minutes and stuff like that. 415 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:22,279 So that is what you're looking for here, I'm putting in the chat. 416 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:30,359 Uh. Here's the Russo article. That's the longest link in the world. 417 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,920 I'm very sorry, but that's a that's a Justin Russo article on the 418 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,000 Clippers contract situation. It's really good. Read it it. It explains it 419 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:43,000 much better than I am explaining it, and it just it really paints the 420 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:49,079 picture of where the Clippers are stuck. Greg you saying you also have coffee 421 00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:52,480 and Brandon Boston Jr. Yeah, a Meer showed like a mere showed a 422 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,559 lot of good stuff last year. The negative wingspan I think hurts him, 423 00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:01,240 but he showed in a small role. Coffee is a very good contributor when 424 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,759 it gets a little bit. I think we saw his ceiling last year in 425 00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:07,920 terms of like what his role should be. But he's a very he's a 426 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,799 legit contributor. Brandon Boston Jr. I gotta see I gotta see more. 427 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:22,119 I don't know if he's ready he's very he's flashy, he's he has flashes 428 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,279 of it. But I just don't I don't know where he fits on this 429 00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:30,039 team. People like to say three and D guy, but I'm not sure. 430 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,279 This is a good point in the chat. Feels like the Clippers would 431 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:40,839 be bidding against themselves if they give pg a max because I doubt there really 432 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:44,880 are other teams willing to give him that contract. There's really only two. 433 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,240 It can kind of be right, It's all the chatter has been seventy six 434 00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:59,119 ers and like maybe the weird thing with the Knicks, So they're not bidding, 435 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,799 Yeah, it's they are. They kind of have to bit against themselves 436 00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:06,480 because of how they're so stuck Like this is a great point. See, 437 00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:12,199 there's not a lot of teams who can give him the max. But what 438 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,360 if they did? That's the thing that sucks to say, well, what 439 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,400 if they did? And the hang up specifically seems to be on that fourth 440 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,960 year. I think they're okay with giving him three, but that fourth it's 441 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:29,039 kind of like, who bud that's a lot, So they are bidding against 442 00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:32,280 themselves. They're stuck like that. That is the reality of it, which 443 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:39,880 is difficult. John saying, I don't mind running it back. We could 444 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,000 have tweaked rotation against the MAVs played Tyson sat Tucker. Absolutely, we could 445 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,880 have no idea if Kawhi would have been back had they gotten past the MAVs. 446 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:53,639 There's been no update either on the Kawhi knee thing. A lot of 447 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:59,760 people are kind of assuming, Uh, we're just gonna get an alert saying 448 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,880 that like Kawhi Leonard had his knee scoped or something like that, and I 449 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,760 think that's probably what's gonna happen. I think we're gonna get some weird WOJ 450 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:13,920 bomb maybe on July fourth about like Kawhi getting his knee checked out and that 451 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,800 they have optimism or something like that. I have no idea what's going on 452 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:25,480 with Kwahi Hawaiian Horizon, asking is there any legitimacy about the Chris Paul rumors 453 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:29,800 or is it just the media's during the pop first they don't want to bring 454 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,119 in any more guys past their prime. Could not agree more with the second 455 00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:37,119 part uh Hawaiian Horizon, And I think it's mostly just kind of a bit 456 00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:39,639 of random scuttle, But I don't think it's huge. I don't think it's 457 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:46,719 super real. I think there is maybe some interest, So I don't know. 458 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,679 I don't want him to bring him in either, there's no reason to 459 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,199 do that. Uh oh yeah, I forgot BBJ got hurt in in the 460 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,039 G League. I hope he can come. That would be great. I 461 00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,480 hope Brandon Boston can contribute. He was a steel where they drafted him with 462 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,159 where he was projected. He had a really tough year in college before he 463 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:10,480 came, before he declared, so it would be cool. He has the 464 00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:14,199 size, he has the pedigree, he has all that stuff. It's there, 465 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,920 so I hope he can bounce back from the injury. Another guy who 466 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,199 got injured is people that have kind of been asking when it comes to the 467 00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:24,599 four in the five, like, uh, you know Musa Musa Diabat was 468 00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:29,000 drafted, he got hurt. He kind of had some injury, like to 469 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,760 you, I think he broke his wrist or something like that. It was 470 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,719 a hand issue. So and he's still. Musa is incredibly raw for what 471 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,320 this Clippers team needs at the four and the five. The Clippers at the 472 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,639 backup four need an actual defensive backup four or back excuse me, backup five 473 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,440 need an actual defensive backup five, not like a raw athletically guy, because 474 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,039 we saw what happened to Mason Plumley, and Daniel Tyss has his limitations as 475 00:36:54,039 --> 00:37:00,599 well with his size. So I'm really mostly worried about the back cup five 476 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:06,559 this offseason for the Clippers because we've just been through there were times when the 477 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:10,079 combination backup five of Tye and Plumbley looked great and then there were times where 478 00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:15,559 it was just completely garbage. And we've just gone through this rough phase of 479 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,880 backup fives ever since Isaiah Hartenstein left, which is a different subject for an 480 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,280 angrier day that I don't want to get into. But yeah, the backup 481 00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:34,159 five thing is is a little troublesome comment in the stream. I'm fine with 482 00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:37,199 the big three being the same as long as the playmakers around them are young 483 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:39,360 or the players around them are young. Yeah, I mean that's the balance 484 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,440 the Clippers are attempting to strike. They're doing it very kind of ass over 485 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,400 tea kettle would be how I would describe it. The Josh Primo thing made 486 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:54,199 absolutely no sense. He did not need a roster spot, but they're trying. 487 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,800 But you know, this is where playing the youth happens is where Tylero 488 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:05,800 maybe needs to adjust his game a little bit. No Blood Orange teers is 489 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,719 saying no interereston Hartenstein. We would love Hartenstein. There is no Clippers fan 490 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,280 watching, listening, not even watching or listening, who would say no to 491 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,360 Isaiah Hartenstein. Bri If Isaiah Hartenstein was on this team, I think most 492 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,920 people would think we were winning a JPI. No, we would all love 493 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,239 Isaiah hart and Stegn to be back. The Clippers can't afford him. They 494 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,440 can't. There's no money that they can give him. He's unrestricted, which 495 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,400 hurts the Clippers because of Oklahoma City Thunder are gonna sign Isaiah Hartenstein. It's 496 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,039 gonna be like Harold it is the best signing of the season or something weird. 497 00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,000 The Clippers can't. They have no money. There is no money for 498 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:52,599 the Clippers to sign Isaiah Hartenstein. Unfortunately, that hurts that you brought that 499 00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:54,159 up, Blood Orange Tears. I'm gonna be honest. I wish they could. 500 00:38:54,599 --> 00:39:01,440 I really wish they could. Yeah, I don't know. I'm the 501 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,920 Tyler thing, which again is when we started this whole live stream, Uh 502 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,679 five years, seventy million dollars. If you're worried about how much money he's 503 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,960 being paid. Who cares at Steve Valmer's money. It has nothing to do 504 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:22,360 with how the team operates. Yes, that is incredibly uh old man Yon 505 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,400 saying off topic, kind of hard as half black. Yes, he is 506 00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:34,119 semi on topic, Thank you, old man Yon. Oh, here's some 507 00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:38,840 reasonable contract talk. Give Paul George the fourth year. He doesn't want less 508 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:45,360 than the max, though he's It seems very clear he wants the max because 509 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:53,599 four for one is a lot less than what is it for for two twenty 510 00:39:53,880 --> 00:40:00,559 one? Yeah. Yeah, four for two twenty one to four for one 511 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:05,599 ninety if you're a guy who wants the max is a bit of a drop 512 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,360 off. I'm not pretending that. Let's please don't say if only were Yeah, 513 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,920 if we had that, we would all be happy with one hundred ninety 514 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,360 million dollars. None of us are as good at None of us probably deserve 515 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,480 one hundred ninety million dollars for our athletic feats. Those do seem like reasonable 516 00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:25,519 contracts. I think the Clippers offer hardened more, though but not too much 517 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:29,960 more. I think that hardened contract three for one twenty is like, that's 518 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,639 great, Like three for one ten would be cool. I just don't think 519 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,400 there's any way that PG takes four for one ninety. Again, I would 520 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:45,239 love that. I would like that, but I don't know. Ummm Chunk 521 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,440 Samson liked the signing stability for the new stadium. Yes, And my counterpoint 522 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,480 is, like, again, who is coming in? This is the most 523 00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:00,320 veteran team maybe ever constructed, uh in terms of and I mean that in 524 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:06,480 the age sense. I mean that in the clout with the other players, 525 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,519 in the locker room sense, like this is a veteran ass Clippers team. 526 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,920 They're set in their ways in some way, shape or form, right, 527 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,400 I don't. You're not bringing in a young, upstart coach to coach this 528 00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,920 team. That would be insane. He would have them running suicides and everyone 529 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,920 would be hurt or something weird. And you're not bringing in like a guy 530 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,000 who's never been a head coach before, and all the guys who have been 531 00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:39,159 head coaches who are available to coach, none of them would really fit, 532 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,679 right, I don't. You're not fought. You're not letting Tyler walk and 533 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:52,199 then signing Frank Vogel to coach this team. It just it's a good signing. 534 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:58,360 It's it's not something There's definitely points to be made about improvements that Tyler 535 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,519 can make. I'm not gonna sit you know, that's not an issue. 536 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:04,920 He's not a perfect coach. There are issues with playing you know, the 537 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,960 younger guys and and things like that. But it's just not a it's not 538 00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:13,400 a thing you really have. Again, I guess the theme of this live 539 00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,639 is any wiggle room or space to make like who is who? There was 540 00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:21,400 no one else who I think can coach this Clippers team. And when I 541 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,360 say can, I mean deal with everything surrounding it. You're dealing with a 542 00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:31,719 very heavy locker room in terms of just who is on the team right, 543 00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,079 Like, it's just it's a heavy locker room. It would be a very 544 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,719 difficult team to come in and say, hey, I'm the new guy. 545 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,039 Let's do it. The window is kind of closed, let's try and yank 546 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:52,639 it open again. Yes, Jimmy Carter Peanut, very funny name. Do 547 00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:54,760 you think Tyler would resign? Thinking PG and Hardener leaving, I feel like 548 00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,599 this may point to us keeping the core together. Yeah, there's no way 549 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:07,519 that Tylu is signing on to a team that's gonna like blow it up or 550 00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,320 whatever. Again, they can't really blow it up. It'd be a soft 551 00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:15,079 it'd be a soft demo would be what the Clippers could do. But I 552 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:19,159 don't think he's leaving without two of the three for sure coming back. There 553 00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:24,679 already got Kawhi. But I think all signs in scuttle buttons, sources and 554 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,800 chatter and whatever you want to say is pointing to the team bringing everyone back. 555 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,239 So I think this is a great point by Jimmy Carter Penett. I 556 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,239 yeah, I don't think he's resigning if he didn't think people are coming back. 557 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,880 Great point. This franchise is in such a win now mode and we 558 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,840 just don't have the team for it. I think we do have the team 559 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,920 for it. There's been some horrible luck, and maybe it won't happen again 560 00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:01,000 next year, he says, slamming his hands on the desk. But it 561 00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:05,079 is win now mode. We can't pretend like it's not every year that the 562 00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:12,239 Clippers don't win. It's another forty percent pressure added to the win now mode 563 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,199 of what this team is, which is very difficult. I don't know. 564 00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:20,519 I hope they can win now. I also think there's going to be some 565 00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:25,079 moves made. If Paul George signs is a full max contract, we just 566 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,320 have to hope, which is I guess the curse of Clippers fans. I 567 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:36,519 think that about wraps it up. If anyone has any other wild takes to 568 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:38,079 post in the chat, I am going to get out of here. This 569 00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:42,400 has been a very fun happy hour. It's kind of a slow off season. 570 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,280 The Clippers again can't do a whole lot. If you missed the Justin 571 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,320 Russau article I posted in the chat, scroll up and read about how the 572 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:59,119 Clippers are a little hamstrung chunk Samson asking do pg's contract mess with Zoo's extension? 573 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,400 I don't believe if so, I think the Clippers are fine to sign 574 00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:05,920 Zoe to whatever they want. I'll probably be proven wrong by someone in the 575 00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:07,400 chat, and that's fine, listen to them. But I don't think it 576 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,559 messed with the extension at all, because he's been on the team for so 577 00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:15,559 long. Greg, you wants to know y'all going broke buying the new Team 578 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:19,599 Merch. No, my secret is I don't buy Team Merch. I bought 579 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,039 this hat six years ago and I'm wearing an og Jake Burn's shirt. With 580 00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:27,599 Daniel Oturou on it. I don't buy a lot of team merch. I 581 00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:30,519 bought a sweater and it's a great sweater. I bought the new sweater they 582 00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:34,519 also just had. There's like a seventy percent off sale or something happening on 583 00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:39,079 Clippers Shop, which is weird. So no, I'm going broke on everything 584 00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:46,039 else. Gricky, Thank you, Blood Orange cheers. What is the Clippers 585 00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:52,559 calling card? Injuries and hope would probably be what I would say. The 586 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:58,679 Clippers calling card is injuries and hope. Yeah, that about wraps it up. 587 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,840 Don't be an inconsistent wind. Come hang out with us the next time 588 00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:07,039 we have a live come hang out with my two other co hosts are here. 589 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:14,599 We are usually triumvirt It is Adam Ozen of a five seventy myself and 590 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:16,800 Will Updike used to host Locked on Clippers with me. We used to do 591 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,679 that together. It's a very fun time. Thank you to everyone for hanging 592 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,960 out. I'm doing an episode on Friday with La Murray. We're gonna talk 593 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:29,320 tylu, We're gonna talk everything, the draft coming up. It's gonna be 594 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,639 a really fun time. That'll be out kind of Friday. I think afternoon 595 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:39,159 or something like that. Again, shout out to Clawwave Cool for coming up 596 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,559 with the inconsistent wind comment. One of the most brutal things you can call 597 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:51,760 a person. If you call someone an inconsistent wind. This week or at 598 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,760 any time, hit us up on Twitter at clippers Pod. You were there 599 00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:00,480 for the birth of the inconsistent wind insult. Welcome. It's gonna be Clippers 600 00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:04,079 thing. It's gonna be very fun the Clippers. 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