WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:33.960 We' re here, we' re here Sorry I wasn' t here. 2 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:39.119 I was still checking their phone. But welcome, this Tuesday, 28 3 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:42.439 May. Or swear here all day. I said 27 but it' s 4 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.320 28 May. Good thing this is the first show and I didn' t 5 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:49.920 give the wrong date. Welcome, Doctor Hello. How about good night and 6 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:55.320 twenty- eighth of May is the end of the month and we here with 7 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:59.840 many interesting things that will continue to analyze, because there are issues that never 8 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:03.920 seem to end. Indeed, there are issues that are not exhausted, that 9 00:01:03.959 --> 00:01:07.640 are not finished today. We' re going to touch on two topics that 10 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.599 I put in the program description. There is one that is in slope and 11 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:17.840 another that is after so many years unfinished that we know nothing after yesterday' 12 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:23.359 s program that we did about the first two chapters of this series of Amazon 13 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:29.120 Prime, who killed Paco, because much to discuss, much to talk about. 14 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:34.319 So many messages have come from you. We are very grateful because there 15 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:38.959 are many versions. We all have one version not and the other case of 16 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.480 fofou Marks, which is pending, but good before we start. 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What I was 22 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.240 telling you yesterday is that there have been many messages about the theories that everyone 23 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:10.680 has or can have, because we can all in a case that I don 24 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:15.599 ' t know, because it hasn' t been solved, because only that 25 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:21.400 there would have been a guilty conviction, would have been a case solved. 26 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.800 But it wasn' t a case solved. Pago Stanley' s case still 27 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:30.080 has a lot to talk about. But first it seems to you, Dr 28 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.080 Amel, that we should clear up about Fofomark, is that we' ve 29 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.719 touched him here. Yeah, what' s going on is he actually showed 30 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:39.280 up good. There have been, as always, many rumors. We' 31 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:45.439 re a little used to the famous fake news. That is why we always 32 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:53.080 try to verify the information, because there appeared in several places an apparent news 33 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:59.080 or a false news that this boy, Rodolfo r, had been sentenced and 34 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:04.800 it turns out that this is not the case. There was even talk of 35 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:09.159 a number of years. There it appeared that twenty- six years and well, 36 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:14.159 it already lupita especially began to investigate and it is not so. On 37 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.879 the contrary, there will still be a hearing that will soon be on June 38 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:23.039 6, and in that what is expected is that Fofo Marquez' s defense 39 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:29.000 will try once again, to change the crime for which he is charged, 40 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:32.639 not for a minor one, because this murder or attempted femicide is what he 41 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:38.039 does, since it is something very serious and therefore the possible sentence would also 42 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:46.280 be very harsh. So, what you want in that audience, because it 43 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:51.800 ' s changing. No, I mean how hard. No, because notice 44 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:58.000 that there is this boy who commits this assault against this woman, who is 45 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:00.400 not a hit, who is a beating that he gives, who leaves her 46 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:03.240 lying on the ground, who sends her to the hospital and almost that because 47 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:08.759 someone intervenes after many cars that passed, nor anyone intervened to have Fofo Marques 48 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:14.439 or Rodolfo Márquez stop to connect to beating. I gave her a lady who, 49 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:16.040 then, all I was saying was call your insurance. Yeah, I 50 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:19.160 hit your mirror, but we' re gonna fix it and he' s 51 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:24.519 pissed off. And besides, with this arrogance my family gave me, it 52 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:27.519 ' s going to get me out of the problem because we' ve touched 53 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:29.720 that we just played in broken souls. Or the case of a junior under 54 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:34.279 the cover of his family who says no, because they are eccentric things that 55 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:39.079 our son does and he ends up being a real criminal. Well, here, 56 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.439 before that happens, before he commits a femicide or anything else or another 57 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.439 major crime, because they stop him and they land on him this charge of 58 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:51.720 attempted femicide, which is extremely serious, which is already very serious, and 59 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:57.680 it is a shame, because it is a pity for a life that is 60 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.959 wasted. But there has to be a consistent sequence of acts. There must 61 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.800 be a People have to understand that you can' t go down the street 62 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:13.759 beating women or bothering people without any kind of sanction, exactly and especially because 63 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.720 it had a record that many of us already knew. Some people already knew 64 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:23.079 him because of the videos he made, his arrogant attitudes and so on. 65 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:30.279 But because many of us had no knowledge of his personality and once again there 66 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:35.920 is this issue of which a person has not been held back since early childhood 67 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:42.439 and much less in adolescence and youth, and yes, sometimes it can end 68 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.560 up in something as tragic as this, which, fortunately, the victim, 69 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:50.160 because he has lived to tell it, has recovered apparently from the injuries and 70 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:56.759 now the life that is ruined is that of this man. Although she didn 71 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:01.040 ' t have glitlars notice what Eva Maria says, Maria Fines tells me very 72 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.959 much about a comment by Sastian Niño de Rivera that said that in the end 73 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:09.519 they were injuries and that everything got bigger because they were influencers. And it 74 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:13.839 ' s true, you' re right in your trouble, because it actually 75 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:15.600 goes viral because it' s an influencer. But that' s not why 76 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.680 you did less? Is that not why you did it less? It was 77 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:23.920 necessary to put a brake, because in the same way as if it had 78 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.279 been left unpunished, if it had not become great, if you had not 79 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:32.160 been viral, if you had not intervened as if the authorities intervened, he 80 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:34.959 could have come out with the smile that had to be stopped. Anyway, 81 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:38.800 it' s always something with impunity. Nothing. Nothing is going to happen 82 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.600 to me and I' m going to be able to keep doing it then, 83 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:46.000 because yes, it' s a double- edged weapon to be an 84 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:46.920 influencer and to magnify your case. But somehow it' s also a warning 85 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.720 to the rest of the population, whoever you are, whoever you are you 86 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:58.600 can' t do this is and also good the fact that these communications exist 87 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:03.079 today and all this technology that allows things to get so fast everywhere and without 88 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:10.040 a doubt, because you' re seeing it happen there practically live and at 89 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:15.639 the moment that things are happening, because it can also result in other people 90 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:18.839 who may not be influencing or anything, but who become viral for something. 91 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:25.680 Thus, they also receive the same attention on both sides, attention on the 92 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:29.639 part of justice and attention to what is wrongly done to stop people who commit 93 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:40.360 these illegals is also a subject of our time. I think I do exactly. 94 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.399 It is important, because it is not a phenomenon that happens in this 95 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.120 country. It' s a global phenomenon, it' s a global phenomenon, 96 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.079 and see that there are other influencers who, maybe they don' t 97 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:56.279 commit crimes, but they do terrible things, like pretending to take photos on 98 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.959 cliffs, in buildings that have lost their lives in very serious cases, with 99 00:07:59.959 --> 00:08:01.680 a terrible thing. But I think it' s something we' re learning. 100 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.560 There are no times, well, there are no times. Freedom is 101 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.519 one of the things that has to be handled with responsibility, with a lot 102 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.639 of responsibility, and freedom lies in learning to decide on that, in learning 103 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:18.240 the cid in a right way. But good is the case of Fofo Marques 104 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.560 that he has seems to me an audience. On June 6, as you 105 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:26.040 said at the beginning, I had heard this rumor that I already had a 106 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:30.199 20- year sentence. And no, what his lawyers are looking for is 107 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:35.679 that the crime is reconsidered that he is not charged with attempted femicide, but 108 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.000 that it is for injury or something that does not involve so many years in 109 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.320 prison. So, I believe that by today too, it was said that 110 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.240 he had received privileges and so on. But the mom says it' s 111 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.080 not true, it' s normal, but somehow, because I think she 112 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.039 already, by the time she learned. And so, then, there will 113 00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:01.080 be the authorities what they have to do, the lawyers, because we will 114 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:05.759 already know what this ends up for the week that enters yes expensive. No 115 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:07.399 and yes, but it' s something that' s given a lot to 116 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:13.840 talk about for all the implications and because it' s true that it' 117 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:20.840 s not the same as an accomplished femicide as an assault like the one we 118 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.279 saw through the videos. But just to think that, as she said, 119 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.200 she herself who was the mother of one of us, his mother, your 120 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:35.759 sister or yourself, because your perception also changes, because she was attacked in 121 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:43.360 a very violent way, without having any guilt, therefore, why exactly she 122 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.320 hears you remember that yesterday we also touched on the issue of the mothers, 123 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.679 of these mothers, of these closing nuns that have revealed themselves against the Vatican, 124 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.120 and here they did us favor to write us in the chat tell us 125 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:01.480 not to invest it well, because they continue to notice, that this is 126 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:07.440 very interesting. Says they follow a father Rojas. There is then this father 127 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.639 Rojas who is not even a father, who is not even a priest, 128 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.480 it turns out that he is the one who manipulates them. So they say 129 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:20.240 ay lupita, because we need to investigate more, because what is the end, 130 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:26.039 not for what purpose. The manipulator always looks for something. Then you 131 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:26.759 ' d have to see what it is you' re looking for. But 132 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:35.480 that also holds our question of why. Suddenly, they say ay is that 133 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.720 the Church is no longer what it was when for many years what is seen 134 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:46.240 today at least as an organization. Let' s say in the Church it 135 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.799 ' s like that and I said it. I said since they took the 136 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.200 vows, the Church before which they made those vows is what it is now. 137 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.919 So, wow. We are not talking about a neuralgic moment, as 138 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:03.039 Martin Luther' s might have been, not or I don' t know 139 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.000 about others who protested against it and changed the Church, but they are nuns 140 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.039 who, besides, are closing and suddenly from where they were born to say 141 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.799 something, we are going to leave. I had to see something behind it. 142 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.480 We said it and now it seems that it is, because this assumption 143 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.840 or manipulation, which would be very interesting, notice that I am reading it 144 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:26.080 here all in the Chatre. Thank you for what you write to us, 145 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:28.639 but it would also be very interesting to review in what condition a nun is. 146 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.440 I don' t know, I mean, I probably knew when I 147 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.440 was in a nun' s school, because they were more or less so 148 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.600 close to each other until today. I do not know at what age they 149 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.840 enter, with what schooling they enter, in what is it that they do 150 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:45.240 within a convent and why do they become companies? Why do people become vulnerable, 151 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:50.399 capable of those preys of someone who can manipulate them? That' s 152 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:52.840 very interesting. It' s also a phenomenon. Yes, because there are 153 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.519 different ones. No, as you well said, there are, for example, 154 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:01.919 the ones you know in a school are totally from another kind of order. 155 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.960 This is called the order to which they belong, which is different from 156 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.799 those within the cloister. And yes, Carolina, they' re also called 157 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.960 closures and they' re figure because they' re in a cloister aha and 158 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.200 themselves. So, they themselves in their video watch the video of them, 159 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.679 of these nuns that we' re talking about, and they say we' 160 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:26.759 re closing nuns that we' ve noticed that here ago is very bad. 161 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.000 Then they are different from those others, for example, who are engaged in 162 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:37.399 nursing, who are engaged in missions or who are engaged in teaching. That 163 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:43.799 I was also in religious school, then they are different types of vows and 164 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.399 also different preparation. For example, at school, in high school I had 165 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:56.559 a nun as a teacher who was a doctor of literature and was a teacher 166 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:00.120 of literature and a doctor. Then don' t be, it' s 167 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:01.440 left of her, she' s already in or anything. I don' 168 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.639 t know exactly the specifications of each, but it would be interesting to investigate 169 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:07.200 in this case soon, not clear, or it would be very interesting. 170 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.440 Of course, you' d have to see how they handle it Look here. 171 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:16.279 I have different ones. I have other comments, because Laura Lrón de 172 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.440 Guevara says, but jos stop or something like that she stayed in jail more 173 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.840 for passing a video. It wasn' t for passing a video, it 174 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:31.080 was for having in his possession material that the Crime Commission was involved. That 175 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.799 ' s why that' s what kept her in jail. On the other 176 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:37.240 I was more proud later, and it was not just who did, not 177 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:43.320 to see then says Araceli. Yesterday I did not get to comment that they 178 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.480 noticed that the lawyer Pasquel is the same one who defended Besares and besides, 179 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:52.879 when they passed him the murder, the lawyer Pasquel is right now defending someone 180 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.759 or to see if they tell me, because I did read it that they 181 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:58.960 said he is the lawyer of the famous, but to whom he is defending 182 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.639 right now the lawyer Pasquel yes, sounds very good to me. We heard 183 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:07.159 and continued with the case of Paco Stanley, from this series of Pacostan, 184 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:11.320 who keeps getting dusty because he was watching a video that said this for seventeen 185 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.679 years, this idea fourteen years ago. But there' s one very significant 186 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:20.799 one I checked out. What he declares to Paco are what Mario Besares, 187 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:28.879 at the funeral declares to Jacobo Sabludovski. But I hear that Mario says that 188 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:33.960 he did not actually come out. I mean, there' s a columnist 189 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.960 who sent us this column, a columnist who says there are contradictions, because 190 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.080 Mario talks about that if the car came out, that if the truck walked. 191 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:46.000 But Mario does reiterate and emphasizes and it seems that he even does ex 192 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:50.879 - profeso, that is, as saying listen to him I never left the 193 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.799 restaurant. I got out of the bathroom. The waiters stopped me and still 194 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.279 James greets, he tries to insist, insist, but there, in those 195 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.039 first moments, he does not contradict what is contradicted, that is, Paco 196 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:03.679 was a great man, a great person, he was the most generous, 197 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:09.600 He was my great friend, a close relationship and a wonderful family to say 198 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.639 no later. No. We weren' t friends, I was never his 199 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:18.639 friends. Yes, that note that was sent to you by this Martin Moreno 200 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.759 Durán and published a year ago, just about June of the year two thousand 201 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:28.200 and twenty- three. But he says in that interview. But it also 202 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.399 seems very curious to me, because in this interview, which is in our 203 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:37.200 power referring to the medium that Mario César works for, he states that he 204 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.600 saw a person who came with a squad that started throwing him in the truck, 205 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:45.759 that is, he witnessed everything and because he later said that he had 206 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:50.000 never left the bathroom. But you' re right when you see this thing 207 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.360 that asks Mario Besares Jacos to Bludovski, because it seems to me that it 208 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.360 is the same thing that has always maintained about being in the bathroom. Then 209 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.679 I don' t know where he might be. That' s what this 210 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.519 journalist Martin Moreno is talking about No, I haven' t seen him. 211 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.320 I haven' t seen this part where I said he went out and he 212 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.559 was. No, that' s held him up all the time. Yeah, 213 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:17.200 he' s held all the time he never left the restaurant. Because, 214 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:19.120 besides, that must be very true? And that must be very true? 215 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:25.320 And unquestionable that never leaves, that never sees the car shot or maybe 216 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:29.000 sees the car shot, since everything happened now. On the other hand, 217 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.080 I agree a lot because they were writing to us and that also coincides very 218 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:37.519 much with those who have written this to us in Paco Maybe they didn' 219 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.360 t follow no more than a day. Maybe I came to study his movements 220 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:45.159 several days ago. That may have been, but the mere day must have 221 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:52.200 been a warning, I mean, there probably was a warning and a planning, 222 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.200 but at the moment, at the moment, at the time, then, 223 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:00.159 yes, there must have been a bit that there may have been now. 224 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:04.319 He asks James, Bludovsky, Mario Kisses. Hey, you don' 225 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:08.039 t know if there was one of the hit men in the restaurant that was 226 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:11.720 there and Mario says no, I don' t know. And indeed, 227 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.519 it' s very difficult to know if you went to the bathroom and they 228 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.960 immediately fill out paco, although, according to all the versions, no one 229 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.720 leaves the restaurant, none of the hit men leave the restaurant. They come 230 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:29.440 from outside and yes, they are the exact witnesses. There was never anyone 231 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:33.359 who came out of the restaurant. To put an end to this, this 232 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.039 didn' t exist. No. In fact, precisely something that supports Mario 233 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.720 ' s version, because they are the versions of the witnesses, precisely of 234 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.759 all those who were inside all those waiters, of which he says that some 235 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:47.480 shouted at him that he did not come out and I do not know what. 236 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.680 But, for the time being, if you witness that he was inside 237 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.160 and wasn' t exactly that and he' s still brs as Carolina Maral 238 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:57.799 says, it' s still a coincidence, that he went to the bathroom 239 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.680 just when he was shot. But he' s got this fourth because that 240 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:06.000 ' s what they call alibis for me He had diarrhea and he presents it 241 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.720 in the series. I wasn' t sick to my stomach and that' 242 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.200 s why I went back to the bathroom before we left that well, it 243 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.799 sounds very logical. Sounds very logical. What I didn' t understand anymore 244 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.759 is why they didn' t do any more research on this foot injury or 245 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.400 something. But, well, here it is, and I think we can 246 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:26.440 talk about it today about the impact it has during these times, because it 247 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:30.119 ' s all the newspapers that are reporting it. Thank you so much for 248 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:36.160 him and the day. We have the press, we have the universal chart. 249 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:40.559 I worked there the debate, we got the reform, we got the 250 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:41.319 good one, we got the press again. But this is already with the 251 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.160 funeral and everything that was said later, not everything that was being said about 252 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:52.960 paying Stalle, but it was a reading. It was a time of political 253 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:57.680 turmoil, because, moreover, it was just the year ninety- nine, 254 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.480 as I recall, and in the ninety- nine, as it was coming, 255 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:10.079 it was a pre- electoral year, not the following year would be 256 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:11.440 when President Fox entered, the year two thousand. But it is a pre 257 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:18.279 - electoral year that there is always a lot of agitation and movement and confusion. 258 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:21.599 That' s why there are many theories. Then they told me that 259 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:26.440 Patti Chapoy also said in his program that she knew who had killed the life 260 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.279 of Paco, but she never said it, no, no, because I 261 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:32.319 think that if I say unless the man who sent it Matar sits with you 262 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.839 and says hey look I will tell you my plan from there on the outside, 263 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:38.880 because it is very difficult for someone to say that they have the absolute 264 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:45.319 certainty of who was clear. No, no, no, no, no. 265 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:52.880 No. Now yes, because what we were talking about yesterday, this 266 00:19:53.359 --> 00:20:00.440 caused a lot of dismay, indignation, fear, hypothesis. Ivan came up 267 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:08.720 with theories that also appeared so crazy suddenly incredible, that they were dismantled little 268 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:11.920 by little and in which he had, therefore, a very important role. 269 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:18.839 Who was then attorney Samuel of the Billiards, exactly. Listen to see and 270 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.240 let' s see who Samuel was from the Billiards, because, because he 271 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.440 was also very questioned, because they' re supposed to send him there. 272 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.359 I mean, we need a culprit now and we need that solved now. 273 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:37.400 And that' s one of the things that could have hurt kisses. Yes, 274 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.400 notice that what is said first good, for it is that when fearing 275 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:51.000 blues, because it had on it all the citizens demanding a rapid response and 276 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:56.480 that he, as it is remembered, at that time, at some time, 277 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.920 pointed out that this reaction of the citizenry he a storm in a glass 278 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:06.559 of water and that that still indignant much more to the population, so that 279 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:10.720 he delegated the management to Rosario Robles, who had been Secretary of Government, 280 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.839 and is charged, therefore, to Samuel del Villar, to resolve quickly he 281 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:21.240 is Samuel of the billiards O era Kretschman, who was a key figure who 282 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:26.000 oversaw different lines of investigation, but that if at any time he determined that 283 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:32.039 there were links with drug trafficking, according to the investigations that he had headed, 284 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:37.000 he, therefore, dies of a question of cancer at the age of 285 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.599 sixty. In the year two thousand and five. He was a man of 286 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:45.359 preparation. He had studied law at the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México. He 287 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:51.400 had a master' s degree from Harvard, Harvard Law School, where he 288 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:56.920 also held a PhD in Law. He was a professor of Constitutional Law at 289 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:02.599 the Colegio de México and part of the professor' s team of Bachelor' 290 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:06.519 s degrees in Political Science and Public Administration and International Relations. So, yes, 291 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:08.720 it is not that I had neither information, nor preparation nor experience, 292 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:15.920 but that the case was actually carried out in a very peculiar way. I 293 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:23.319 don' t know between the hasty and the superficial. That was going to 294 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:29.039 say that I rushed him, rushed him on the case. This hurry to 295 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.240 solve it and find guilty that I insist that can if I read them here. 296 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:38.319 Yes, it was very rare that Mario Besares would have danced the chicken 297 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.000 on the show, as we said yesterday, and walked with crutches in the 298 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:49.799 restaurant. That, then, was to draw attention. However, that gives 299 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:53.880 as a certain doubt, but not as much as to put him in jail. 300 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.720 But if there was this haste already find me guilt solves this case and 301 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:06.279 we will blame a third party, because to whom it suits. And well, 302 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:11.680 in research cases we' ve always seen that what you look for is 303 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.039 who' s good for you. That Paco wasn' t there, why 304 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.480 there would be a reason to specifically kill him, specifically him and not someone 305 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.960 else, because we wanted to end it, because this looks like an execution. 306 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:26.680 I think the cover of the day was, I think, the right 307 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:32.440 thing to do. He executed organized crime, well, not the most accepted, 308 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:37.359 but it was an execution. It was an execution because it' s 309 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.599 not the same. He was killed for a crime of passion that he was 310 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.079 executed. That already changes, it changes a lot, it' s not 311 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:49.359 the same thing. He died who killed him. And the characteristics of that, 312 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:56.839 yes, yes, have all the signs of an execution, yes, 313 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.599 exactly. In the end, Samuel of Billiards, as we are being told 314 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:04.240 here, died, but did not leave a good role. I think he 315 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:08.759 had several cases that were in doubt, several cases that were not, because 316 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:14.400 there was no certainty. Not that that happens a lot with prosecutors or now 317 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:18.960 prosecutors. Then we don' t know. In the end, we don 318 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.519 ' t know what else it was one time you remember what the demons didn 319 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.319 ' t write to us yesterday and there was that saying and that had come 320 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:29.119 out a book and that had declared one of the Massi ruiz. We had 321 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:33.240 a moment of a lot of political turmoil, of a lot of political turmoil 322 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:38.400 in general. Not if it was like the country very convulsed. And this 323 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:44.160 comes to sow much more doubts on which side, whose side it was, 324 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:51.319 whom it suited. It' s a political case, who was accurate. 325 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:55.279 Yeah, look, says John Castro, says Lupita. I don' t 326 00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:57.079 know if you' ve already commented. Marta Figueroa with Hugo Maldonado, recalled 327 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.799 that they became the pilot of the program friend of her, Jorge Gilli and 328 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.519 Mario Besares already sanse of death. I don' t remember that. They 329 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:11.799 did a pilot program. I didn' t know, because probably to see 330 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.279 what happens with the pilot programs is that they do a lot, a lot 331 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.000 you don' t have and how many programs are made, because there is 332 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.039 always a constant search for something that can work and they do a lot. 333 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.599 Then it' s a good thing a pilot program has been made. Wouldn 334 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.759 ' t have been weird, wouldn' t have been suspicious. Simply because 335 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:33.680 one more program for Aztec television, which was where Jorge Hill wanted to extend 336 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.279 his work. I didn' t want to do this to sex. What 337 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.119 were you called exorcisms. I said, let' s not exorcise. I 338 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:45.759 don' t get excited about what you' re thinking. No, no, 339 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:51.240 don' t exorcise me. But it wasn' t uncommon that they 340 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:56.240 wanted to make you another program with Marta Figueroa that at the time, because 341 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:00.039 she was there with Jorge Gill and with good they were taking advantage of a 342 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:04.680 moment when you' re on a television station, because what she wants most 343 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:06.960 was to get a job and present projects until one works. And besides, 344 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:11.960 it was a great time on Aztec television. It was precisely when they were 345 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:19.000 coming up, they were having a lot of production and they were bringing in 346 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:26.000 a lot of actors because they were obviously televised, because there was nothing prior 347 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:27.839 to that moment and then it was like the world of opportunity was there. 348 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:33.000 So, obviously, they wanted to take advantage of it and they wanted to 349 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.599 do a lot of things. All those who were at the time being called 350 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:41.480 by this television and well, because Paco and Mario and well, Jorge Gill 351 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.400 was also part of the team and everyone else who integrated him was doing very 352 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:51.559 well. I mean, they came in and they started going up clearly I 353 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:55.400 then that was one of the times when Azteca was better. It had been 354 00:26:55.519 --> 00:27:00.640 greatly strengthened, much strengthened. I was at the peak of production and I 355 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.240 ' m telling you about cast and so on. I see that some people 356 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:10.599 say that crutches is like not so important that not that why it attracts so 357 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.400 much attention, but it is what we are saying that when you look at 358 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:21.359 a situation as delicate as this in detail or in detail, because obviously you 359 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.680 see with magnifying glass everything that happens and everything can be a fact that does 360 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:33.400 not necessarily mean something in particular, does not necessarily blame anyone much less. 361 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.279 It' s just all those little details that got the attention. I myself 362 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:44.200 told them yesterday that in that program he also made a reflection, calling on 363 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:49.200 the government to take more care of the security of the citizenry and saying that 364 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.359 we were very bad and that people were afraid and that there was danger. 365 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.279 But that does not mean that that day he said and today this is going 366 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.400 to happen to me, for no, because there is no way that they 367 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.680 would know much less. But it' s those details that you say wow, 368 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.799 that happened that day or that day Mario danced without crutches and then attacked 369 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.640 with crutches. You' re right, yes, it' s true, 370 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.160 maybe you knew how to accommodate him He was a dancer in some way to 371 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.400 be able to do that. I don' t know, but it' 372 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:21.599 s two details that caught attention at the time, because everything was observable. 373 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:23.839 When you said Lupita, we don' t know. I saw someone put 374 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.319 here that it was proven that there was no such injury. I don' 375 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:32.880 t remember it being checked, only he hesitated about it. Now I think 376 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.920 with everything we suspect already and all the research that there is and that it 377 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.599 has advanced science or maybe, if this was happening today, they would not 378 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.200 only be checking whether there was injury or no foot injury, but also whether 379 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.920 he had really got sick from the stomach or not. Not really, because 380 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.400 that' s how you' re going to see someone notice that there was 381 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.240 also a rumor that there was someone from the crime who texted him. That 382 00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.400 ' s when he got there You see Paco was reading the messages on the 383 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:00.799 air And, well, there was a suspicious message. I' ll read 384 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.119 them. Angelo Angelo says about crutches. It may well be that the evil 385 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.160 will be worse and that has happened to me in a problem in my heel. 386 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.839 I don' t see any suspicion. It' s very valid if 387 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.119 they take it out in the series and Mario says he never saw Jorge again, 388 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.759 no, I don' t think so anymore. Jorge Hill always said 389 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.359 he suspected kissing and I agree with him. Samuel of the Villa looked, 390 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:27.359 looked like a clump with all peace. Ho Jessica says what' s going 391 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.880 on is that Mario had said he never saw Gil again after Paco and Marta. 392 00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.640 That' s why he said about the pilot program. Ah ok ok 393 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:41.400 Annie Cecilia says the problem with Mario is that when you watch Big' s 394 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.079 documentary after interviews with Adela and Jordi, it totally contradicts itself. Lupita finishes 395 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.480 watching the documentary and the one telling the truth is Benito. Yeah, Benito, 396 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.000 I got it. I' ve seen shorts, but I' m 397 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.519 going to apply now to see if Bigs works for me to watch the whole 398 00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.559 documentary. And you have to see And it' s that I think this 399 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.240 is very interesting because you have to see what the documentary says, what they 400 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.359 say in the series and what we also see in the videos, that they 401 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:11.519 are reproductions of what did happen in the original program, of the original interviews 402 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.400 of how everything moved at that time. It' s very interesting. Lupita 403 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.799 takes care of the commentary on what Marta Figueroa said. I think it contradicts 404 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.680 Mario, who said he didn' t come back for thanks. I already 405 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:30.920 understood that the pilot did it after Paco had died mm Ok exactly, as 406 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:37.000 that also contradicts. I think I insist and it is not to justify Mario 407 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.680 Besares, but I do think we commented yesterday, after such a great trauma, 408 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.359 of course, that you forget what may have happened. What happened the 409 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:48.559 moments, the minutes you forget. But when it' s as deeply serious 410 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:53.200 as this, there must be something that makes it clear to you how. 411 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:59.079 How can I say that I never saw Jorge Hill again if I did see 412 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.240 him again to make a pilot with a figueroa kill. You don' t 413 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:03.880 forget that, because you' re already out. Besides, you' re 414 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.799 out of the moment, I mean, you' re not in the trauma 415 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.119 moment, you' re not in the mess, I mean, you' 416 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:12.799 re not in that afternoon or the next day, you' re not in 417 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:18.319 the trauma moment. That could be remembered. Yes now also the stories, 418 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.839 as in anything imagine in something as terrible as this. But in anything, 419 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:27.440 whatever life experience a human being has that of which we all have, some 420 00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:33.000 loss, obviously, derived from a loss, some kind of mourning at best, 421 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:41.319 some situation in childhood that was complicated, some lack. Whatever it was 422 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.799 that you live, yes, it' s transforming. We' ve said 423 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.359 it here many times. Over time, that memory can get worse or it 424 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.839 can soften or it can' t say good. It wasn' t that 425 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.680 bad or it' s worse than I remember. I didn' t realize. 426 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:01.240 Now imagine yourself in a situation where you can see that, in addition, 427 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:07.680 they lived in a state that I would say almost maniac all the time, 428 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.839 because they worked a lot. The show was early, it lasted many 429 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:16.079 hours. Yeah, I had to do a lot of pre- production work, 430 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.440 keep a very high energy during transmission, that is, they had to 431 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:22.440 have the audience. So they had to come up with things, that is, 432 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:30.119 it was very demanding and they either solved it or tried to solve it 433 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:35.440 in many ways, which Benito Castro said in the documentary at the time, 434 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.319 but also Mario himself in some interviews. Yes, he did. Yes, 435 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.799 he did. We started drinking such a thing. Then we followed up with 436 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.440 I don' t know what. Then we ate and such and such then 437 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:51.519 lived in a state as I would say altered, a border, a border 438 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.640 state, i e lived limit, lived to the exact limit. Then imagine 439 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.039 all that. Then the crazy drama happens, you get arrested, you get 440 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.720 jailed. You don' t know what' s going to happen, because 441 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:09.119 imagine how these minds of revolts are and I repeat, I' ll always 442 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:16.839 say it as scared, because if there was something cloudy about what Mario knew 443 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:21.039 and that could have related to what happened. I think it' s also 444 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.920 very difficult for someone to come out and say, well look, yes no, 445 00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.680 I tata ta And then, if that' s how, yes no, 446 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.799 although very complicated, I think we' re going this went on to 447 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:38.440 become like a maze, like a dead end, like half- truths complete 448 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:42.279 lies, where, well, we' re going to do this, we 449 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.160 ' re going to do this comparative. I promise you and write down a 450 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:45.319 little bit for the eyes of what one thing says, what another says and 451 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:51.640 what the actual and momental interviews say and what happened in such a program in 452 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:52.839 detail. And, well, that must have been done by the police, 453 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:58.559 that must have been done by the investigators and they couldn' t reach a 454 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.720 conclusion and if a lock might come and they didn' t want to blame 455 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.200 the culprit. It is worth the redundancy, because if I do not want 456 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:13.239 to, they did not want to point out guilty, for some reason they 457 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.960 will have had that which also makes it even more viable for people to have 458 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.000 suspicions like those they have. Not why. It is not said, for 459 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.559 once it was this and this and it happened in such a way is not 460 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:29.599 very complicated. Now look how what you were saying to me a while ago 461 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:37.079 and you were reflecting on how Paco Stanley came to make this character who, 462 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:44.960 besides drawing attention to how dramatic his death was, was already moving a lot 463 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.440 of people, that is, he was a very dear person. There were 464 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.239 some of us who said they couldn' t stand it. They didn' 465 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.280 t like him because he had this sour mood. His jokes were heavy, 466 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.599 but it seemed that most people did want him the way he was. It 467 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:06.039 seemed like the day he identified himself in some things and you see a lot 468 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:07.400 of people crying about it. Not people on the street saying, but it 469 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:13.400 ' s going how he came to make that character, because because he had, 470 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.480 He had a lot, he had a lot of charisma. Yes, 471 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:22.320 yesterday they came here to the program messages that they said to me I liked 472 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.239 because their jokes were very heavy, because I did have a kind of love, 473 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:29.719 very bullying, but there was one thing that he tried to balance it 474 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:35.000 with. He also laughed at the exact same saying that he was handsome and 475 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.320 gallant, and made a little mockery and talked, making his fatobics. That 476 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.400 was really fun for me. I was very fat at the time. Then 477 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.760 the fatbics loved it, but it made the fatabi that it was like that. 478 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.840 You remember right, yes, and he got tired, and they were 479 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:52.119 clear, and he did some very funny things. The truth is, yes. 480 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:57.239 He was nice, he had an angel and he had a charm but 481 00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.519 he did have a very heavy mood. Sometimes, yes, but people liked 482 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.920 it. Most people loved him so much is so good, because he had 483 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:09.199 successful programs. I was questioned today by Gustavo Fernández on Twitter, but and 484 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:14.000 I agree, they say who didn' t want us in the series. 485 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.880 They say you don' t want it, the tiger unloads. But the 486 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:21.000 Cargo tiger had already died two years earlier. It must be remembered that when 487 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:27.239 Mr Ascar dies, Mr Ascara Jan is making a series of changes right now, 488 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:31.400 which is when he goes out to Bludovsky, he comes out Abram to 489 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:32.760 Bludovsky, he comes out Paco Stanley and they come out a lot. Television 490 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.079 is completely changed. They don' t make a big change on the TV 491 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.280 set. Then that was due to the new times of the television. Yeah, 492 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.559 of course you know that lunita. That' s the problem with the 493 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:51.039 series. I think whoever makes that comment to you probably saw the second chapter 494 00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.559 of the series and in the second chapter of the series before they leave Televisa 495 00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.159 and spends this period where Mario gets hit by the theater and then Paco goes 496 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:05.519 for it and tells him we are going to Terazteca. There' s a 497 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:10.079 scene in this new series, where you see Mr Ascar meet Scarga, Milmo 498 00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.079 and Paco make a joke about his hairstyle. You can see that he had 499 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:20.840 the lock This silver makes a joke to him. The actor who' s 500 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.360 playing gabil or gets serious, doesn' t answer, stays upset. And 501 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:30.159 Luis Gerardo Méndez playing Mario tells him his boss. I think that joke didn 502 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:36.119 ' t fall and make them understand because they do imply that that' s 503 00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:37.360 where they tell them. Oh no, the show' s over and they 504 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.480 ' re going to become Aztec. That' s how the show handles it. 505 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.840 And that' s the problem that causes people to sometimes assume that that 506 00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.639 actually happened that way when, as you well say, times don' t 507 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.360 give up for you to have. It was fictional. I mean, I 508 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.639 think that this one is representative of television already wasn' t comfortable with me. 509 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:58.840 They wanted to get me out then maybe you reasons of much more weight, 510 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.199 much stronger, for or that they got out of Paco. But they 511 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.800 ' re not going to mention them in this case, because what you mean 512 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.760 and the argument and the driver, this is the crime, exactly then. 513 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.880 That' s why I don' t think it' s given more importance 514 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:14.840 at the time of what it was like. Besides, the joke is that 515 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.719 Televisa was no longer wanted by his ranks. So he spent a little while 516 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.440 where he wasn' t on TV. And then, we don' t 517 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.800 know yet, because we don' t have that part yet in this series, 518 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.320 what he would have been doing. But what they do say is that 519 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.360 Mario, because he was very happy doing theater until, out of loyalty he 520 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:37.519 decided to return with payment to make television. Now this is also interesting I 521 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.119 think, is that Paco is reading this character as you say, that he 522 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:46.599 had the ability to laugh at himself and that' s why he got to 523 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:52.320 the level of those of those who also laughed or who also made these heavy 524 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.639 jokes and then, like it was already we' re all even I make 525 00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.519 them, but they also make me. And there is a very different perception 526 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.199 from that, unlike the one who mocks another nothing else and he stays in 527 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.920 his place. But Paco was a person who here too will make it useful 528 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:14.280 to know why. Most of the time, because knowledge and preparation do give 529 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:20.079 an amplitude to know how to handle yourself in a particular area, including this 530 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.920 one of the show. Because Paco is Naley is a man who, although 531 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:27.880 his biography indicates that he did not come from a wealthy family, but on 532 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.559 the contrary, that he was a family, because with some shortcomings, he 533 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:37.400 was able to study and he was also at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, 534 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.039 where he studied Law. It is said that he also had psychology studies 535 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:47.159 and that he had a natural ease of communication and that he was a broadcaster 536 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.639 from around the late 1960s, from around sixty- nine, he was an 537 00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.239 announcer. He had a flawless addiction. He knew how to impose the voice 538 00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.760 very well, he did serious work for a long time, also in driving. 539 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.880 Then it was slowly exploding that comedic beta. I saw on the Eco 540 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.480 ECHO program, which was this exact twenty- four- hour news, that 541 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.280 it was a projection that lasted all day long, yes, yes, yes, 542 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.239 yes, and there was a segment that inside ECO had Estanley paco, 543 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:24.559 where it did give news and suddenly began its comic moment, where Veronica Macías 544 00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:30.559 was exactly standing and then making Veronica' s balcony. And that' s 545 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.639 where he starts to explode more and more this comedian beta. But he had 546 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:37.880 a background, let' s say, academic intellectual that allowed him somehow to 547 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:46.400 explore different communication formulas that would give him a clear result, of course not, 548 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.119 well, of what talent was, that is, they might have liked 549 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.519 bad to regulate their mood. Yeah, or not. But if he was 550 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:59.320 a talented man, if he was a prepared man, if he was a 551 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.679 saying for something, I got it because if he hadn' t had the 552 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.239 talents, because as much as he did and he would study and declaim and 553 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:08.599 make jokes, they wouldn' t have hit. But I did. And 554 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.800 that' s why he becomes a character of interest, that' s why 555 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.000 they become a person and that' s why he gets where he comes from. 556 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.360 And, well, we' re going to continue investigating this case, 557 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:19.599 Dr Amel. By tomorrow you think we' re getting ahead of ourselves, 558 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:21.760 because I' m going to throw myself tonight the documentary I promise you. 559 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.159 I' m going to hang Bigs to give me my service, as it 560 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:30.159 should be, but and to be able to see him and we' re 561 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.880 going to comment and compare what is said to wait for this third chapter that, 562 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:39.280 as I understand it, comes out I don' t know if tomorrow 563 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:39.280 or Thursday, Thursday, I think, but we' re going to be 564 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:40.239 looking forward to it. Let' s keep an eye on it. And 565 00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:45.760 here we continue reading your comments to put together this case, because count that 566 00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.000 we, besides we like the broken souls that tomorrow we have today. I 567 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.840 want to let you know that we didn' t have any women leaving' 568 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.400 cause really, uh, wax is really sick. I thought he had bronchitis, 569 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:58.679 no, he doesn' t have bronchitis, but yes, he' 570 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.679 s very, very, very sick of throat and cough and can' t 571 00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.800 even talk. So you better get some rest and you' ll be back 572 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.199 with us to get back to all the shows. But, well, for 573 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.280 the moment, we' re going to continue our research, Dr Amel. 574 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.400 That' s right, and then we wait for you, we wait for 575 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:22.679 you tomorrow, and we wait for you in all the Ahorita shows, you 576 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:22.599 go to dinner, and then you go to history, exactly that' s 577 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.400 what I think. Well, I' ll get a little test. Thank 578 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:29.599 you so much for having accompanied us, thank you for your likes, for 579 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.760 signing up, for being part of this community and your comments. And I 580 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:36.719 don' t follow the way you see them I read them all and we 581 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.920 comment here. All opinions are valid. All opinions are valid. Thank you 582 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.360 very much, Doctor. Many thanks to everyone and greetings to the Savior, 583 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.239 who over there asked me. Thank you very much. I greet you, 584 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:52.679 i e, toronto too, and I' ll see you, see you 585 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:53.239 tomorrow, Wednesday, May 29th. See you guys bye bye,