WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:08.960 Dark Destinations may be end times Night's creature. Why would a few more casually 2 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:14.640 struggle me because of their blood will join yours a radio drama anthology. You 3 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:18.679 are wrong how you figure. Every mark on Mongo is hunting you down. 4 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:21.960 Not you, your partner, he said, I didn't have a ray gun. 5 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:28.239 Full cast performances set in the haunted corners of the globe. Darkness is 6 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:38.159 coming for you. That's the fear that taunts me. Dark Destinations by fatherm 7 00:00:38.159 --> 00:01:21.280 Alone at Weirdingwaymedia dot com weird Welcome back midnight viewers to anthologies attack where all 8 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:25.040 stories are won and greater than the sum of their parts. Speaking of parts, 9 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:27.040 I'm only one small part. I'm Father Malone, Johnny Me. Here 10 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:33.359 in the midnight view is Antonio Lapour? Hey there, Father Malone, Hey 11 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.840 there? Yes, all right now, listen, I need everyone to cast 12 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:41.439 their mind back, your comic addicted mind back to them golden days, those 13 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:46.599 olden days of two thousand and five. Countries at war are cultures in free 14 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:51.879 fall? What were the comic book movies in those nascent days before the ascendants 15 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:55.079 of the NFU. These are the comic book movies of two thousand and five. 16 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.200 Constantine, Son of the Mass. It counts. It's a dark horse. 17 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:04.959 Yeah, Batman begins Fantastic four Sky High, which was an original by 18 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.159 business sucrehero Place as they forded and come out in two thousand and four. 19 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:12.199 No, I feel like it's a wasted opportunity. Of course it was quick. 20 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:15.840 It's like not releasing the new one and this year. But that's kind 21 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.000 of sums up that whole movie, doesn't that. Yeah, also a History 22 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.800 of Violence. Oh yeah, that's a great movie and based on based photographic 23 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:27.719 novel Peruana Press Comic. Yeah, also gave us Roder Pradition and Flux. 24 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.800 We had the live action version in Flux that year. I know, let's 25 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.240 at the better, but we also had the feature that we're talking about today, 26 00:02:34.240 --> 00:03:07.000 which is also happens to be an anthology film in the corner. Just 27 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.879 talk, it'll be nice. You just gone and Don and Dumbness singing your 28 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:19.560 whole The truth of sim City will be shattered. Let the girl go. 29 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.400 You know who my father is. You can't do a thing to me your 30 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:30.759 heart again. There'll be a risk. Nothing you can stop this time to 31 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:37.319 prove to your friends that you're worth it down, We'll fight the cops and 32 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.199 the mobs. We'll go to water. This is something Barter room, bro, 33 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:51.879 this is a bad day. You're nothing, You're back. You're making 34 00:03:51.919 --> 00:04:05.360 a big mistake. Now you already made a big mistake yourself. The heart 35 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:36.800 up with a decent engine and make sure it's got a big trunk. From 36 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:41.399 two thousand and five released on April. The First two thousand and five written 37 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:46.199 and directed by Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller, with special guest director Quentin Tarantino. 38 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.360 We're talking about Sin City. Dun Dun Dun Dun, Dun, Dun, 39 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.519 Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun dun dun dun 40 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:56.399 dun. However that goes. I do like that baseline though, that was 41 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:00.680 pretty much it. Yeah, it's Barry Peter Gunn. Yeah, yeah it 42 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.439 is. It's so Peter Gunn that it's almost a little insult. Yeah, 43 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.720 I you know the I'm just gonna put this on the table right now before 44 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:10.720 we get into the movie. I hate Yeah, it doesn't mean it. 45 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.800 You just goes Sin City and then go right into the movie. It's I'm 46 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:16.680 a fan of overtures, but that that opening credit sequence just looks like it 47 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:20.560 was made in premiere or final cut. Oh we zoom out from the buildings. 48 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:25.319 Yeah, the buildings and stuff. That's great. The title is beautiful, 49 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:30.360 but it goes into the overture and the credits look like they're done at 50 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:36.439 thirty frames a second and they look real kind of like quickly thrown together. 51 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:39.959 And yeah, it has the art. I mean, the art is great, 52 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:44.160 but do we needed I don't think we're just gonna be seeing the art 53 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.920 for the next Here's the thing on my movie, Space Detective, which we're 54 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:53.480 gonna talk about a lot, because Sin City was the biggest visual influence on 55 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.800 it, and I'm going from the comic. The black and white style that 56 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:00.560 we kind of employed in Space Detective with splashes of color came from the Frank 57 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:04.279 Muller comic. That was my biggest inspiration was that we do a whole different 58 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:09.160 thing with it. In Space Detective. The characters are all black and white, 59 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:13.519 and then whatever is a light or a laser is in color, and 60 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:15.319 then if they go to a planet or an environment, they may be two 61 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.519 toned yellow or something in black. But the Sin City is important to me 62 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:24.920 creatively, and I feel like that open and in space Detective. We've got 63 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:30.480 a long opening credit sequence that if I go back that if I went back 64 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.040 now and we did the movie, probably cut it out because going to the 65 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:40.279 title right into it kind of works. And I think the setup that that 66 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:45.399 that prologue with Josh Hartnett into the title sequence, that's your overture. Oh 67 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:49.800 absolutely, that little three minute sport at the beginning of the thing is everything 68 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:54.199 to set up the vibe of the movie. So I don't think you need 69 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:59.759 five minutes of titles that are kind of lacklesstirt and the theme is okay, 70 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.720 but it's not John Williams or and it's not all this is amazing. Though 71 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.439 I do like the baseline. I don't think it needs it can just go 72 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:11.399 right into hard again. I totally speak with that, Okay. In order 73 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:15.079 to talk about since we have to talk about Frank Miller, now, Frank 74 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.560 Miller grew up in Vermont, and you've gone down to New York and in 75 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:24.600 the late seventies he befriended Neil Adams d C kind of became his protege, 76 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:30.040 started penciling at DC. He actually wrote and drew a lot of horror and 77 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:33.959 war comics. One of those work on his weird War stories was seen by 78 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:40.439 Jim Shooter Hubert Marvel, who called d c up said who's this kid and 79 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:45.360 basically poached him with the promise of lending and pencil. David Yeah, and 80 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.040 Frank Miller, and he said, who's this kid. Fran Miller was a 81 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:53.199 kid man. Frank Miller was a comics of vront almost. I think he's 82 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:57.040 not the greatest penciler. He's not the greatest draftsman, so to speak. 83 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:03.120 His stuff is very in his own style. He's more like Jack Kirby than 84 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:07.319 he is Neil Adams before We're gonna be honest here, because his storytelling is 85 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:13.439 all about his pacing and his posing and his storytelling. Man, it's really 86 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.879 good, and it really lends itself to cinema. You know, they're cinematic. 87 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.560 He's a writer first, and he's absolutely a writer, and he loves 88 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:24.480 to tell that kind of hard boiled no story. He took Daredevil, who 89 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.839 was a bless character and just shot him to the A list man. And 90 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.000 if it's amazing, I've reread some of those Daredevils and they really hold up. 91 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.600 Man, they're really good. His art is kind of rough when he's 92 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.600 inked by Klaus Jensen is probably the best back then. Yeah, because Claus 93 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.639 Jensen was a great anchor. He was a really good draftsman and really complimented 94 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.600 his art well if he was pennsiling for Geen Coleman at the time Coleman's running 95 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:52.840 Derek Gene Coleman was yeah great, I know. So he called him of 96 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:58.879 Dracula. That is his most famous work, and it's very like blow. 97 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:05.840 It's very watery, almost like his characters are always like in emotion blur almost, 98 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.919 you know what I mean. It's very ethereal his stuff. He didn't 99 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:11.919 run on Batman in the mid eighties. My first rum that I ever picked 100 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.399 up was he was the artist when Colin finally departed Dredeuble, that was his 101 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.919 building opportunity. Oh yeah, time of Frank Miller. So that's certainly go 102 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.000 Obert. Of course he'd become to prominence bring around in nineteen eighty five. 103 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:28.879 We've talked about it in our Caribbean Synthology episode with Batman The Dark Knight returned. 104 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.240 It was an inordinate amount of one offs and covers and stuff in between. 105 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.440 Oh you need it, Like, here's a couple of days, we're 106 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.960 ever talking about Frank Roller one of He was my comic book hero when I 107 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.759 was a kid. He was my first, the first guy I went out, 108 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.840 Oh, I need to get his stuff. The Dark Knight returns You 109 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.720 reading it at eleven years old or whatever it is, and my head is 110 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:52.519 melting. It's literally going, I can't believe Batman is like this can be 111 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.360 like this this, And I felt naughty because Harry, I'm eleven, twelve 112 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:00.120 years old and I'm reading this comic book has got boobs in it. Even 113 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:05.120 though they're evil Nazi boobs, there's still boobs and Batman and the Jokers fucking 114 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:09.919 amazing. And I went into all this stuff. If you're curious about Frank 115 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:16.840 Miller, go seek out his Wolverine miniseries, which is as his best art, 116 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:22.559 like his most fun because he's not writing it. Chris Claremont's writing it. 117 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.000 But you know, if you saw that, is it the Wolverine where 118 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.440 he goes to Japan and he fights this almos. All that stuff is based 119 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:35.639 on this four issue mini series. My experience was Frank Bellery in nineteen eighty 120 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:43.440 thirteen as freshman in Heights and I hit seen the local Malve went to Liberty 121 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:48.639 Treatment in Danvers, Massachusetts. They didn't have a comic bookshef for the end 122 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.480 of the Dude. We had a limited amount of comics on there, and 123 00:10:52.360 --> 00:11:00.759 I first saw issue number two of Batman Dark and picked it up thumbs three, 124 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.519 put it back down because I didn't want to start too I wanted a 125 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:09.600 way till WAT should so that I watched three and four come out and didn't 126 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:13.399 never ran into one. So in high school I was I was on fencing 127 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.720 team. Oh wow, how cool, I think I have taken elected. 128 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:22.360 It might as well involve staff. Yeah, before fencing practice, my mother 129 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:30.440 stopped at the Liberty treet mall in the trade paperback that so she drove me 130 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:33.960 to this gymnasium where we were practicing, and I was very early, so 131 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:39.159 she dropped me off and I sent it down to read Batman Dark Knight Returns 132 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.559 and completely missed my fencing practice and basically was finishing with the town. My 133 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:48.080 mother drove up again, and it's exactly what you described, because I was 134 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.039 no stranger to adult ideas and comics my then I had. I'd read all 135 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:56.559 the easy stuff, and all not only easy stuff, but there was contemporary 136 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.080 course and going on the late sixties, early seventies, escape us, eerie, 137 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.440 creepy, and all these very adult things. Not to mention it, 138 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.679 not to mention all the other thing. But this was Batman. This was 139 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:16.240 Batman caving in people's skulls and breaking guns apart and dealing with his villains in 140 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:22.480 the most realistic way I ever or had never imagined, because it was never 141 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:28.200 going to do this. Batman was going to be looted as it in adolescence 142 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.320 at beasts. He was never going to be made into an adult. And 143 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.879 so yeah, like you right, no became a god to me. Yeah, 144 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.679 I think maybe I don't remember if it was Dark Knight Returns or Year 145 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.960 one that was my first. I remember you're getting your one very clearly, 146 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:46.720 because I was like maybe eleven twelve, and emotions are starting to change on 147 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:52.480 you and stuff. And I had a particularly rough day or went for something 148 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:54.120 rough and I was crying a lot or something like I'm trying to make you 149 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.679 feel better. She's like, well, well, look, i'll take you 150 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:58.919 to that comic book story you discovered, and I'll let you buy some hot 151 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:01.159 I'll give you some money for some comic books. Men we'll let you you 152 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:07.000 up a little bit here right ofter, and the there was in the case 153 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:11.919 there was a four pack of Batman comics and it was the year one issues 154 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:16.440 and it was just like they just taken the individual issues and just surran wrapped 155 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.639 them and sold them as a five dollar pack and they bought that, mesmerized 156 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:24.559 by it. And I know The Dark Knight Returns was around the same time, 157 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.440 and it was a thirteen dollars comic book, and my mom just rolled 158 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.960 their eyes when I asked for you can fucking kidd it for a comic and 159 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.120 yeah, and I remember I read that on Saturday afternoon and just I can't 160 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.759 put comic books are like this. I did a report on it in the 161 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.000 eighth grade a few years later and on the Dark Knight Returns. Yeah, 162 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:50.879 what did you get? Well? Good? Oh, I got an a 163 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:54.759 because I did. I did a dramatic reading from like when the Joker, 164 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:58.000 even Batman has to snap the Joker's net what and projects always get age? 165 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.639 Yeah, and the Joker faces snaps his own neck. Yeah. It brings 166 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:09.360 you back to the brilliant twenty five thirty year old Frank Miller. Let's kind 167 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:13.440 I come up with that there where the Joker, in order to make Batman 168 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.159 look bad, kills himself. They'll blame you. Yeah, and then that 169 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.279 ban's good solum. Well, I don't waste time with a goodbye. Yeah, 170 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.919 that's great man, very hard or not to mention, the characters in 171 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:31.720 the fun Fair sequence are lotesqueries because Frank Millier loves the villains to be through 172 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.960 a test. Nevertheless, this scenario was a jitaker's hands at that voice and 173 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.120 cotton candy to everyone. Yeah, it's really horrified and I love that. 174 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:45.639 I love that shot too, this kind of a low angle and it's looking 175 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.320 up at the at the cotton candy booth and it's just free cotton candy, 176 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.039 and all these little kids are running up to him. And the Joker is 177 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:58.919 like in his you know, eighties dressed an eighties by Finest suit. He's 178 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.240 all angles, see yeah, he's all angles with that big smile in his 179 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:05.480 face, and he's got his little creepy little midget robots, those dolls, 180 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:11.799 those creepy yeah. Yeah, oh yeah yeah, very awf what yeah, 181 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:16.399 and how great that is. I was always a fan of the Joker is 182 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.480 like with the lipstick and the Joker and everything is always taking over a TV 183 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.679 show. I mentioned this on our other podcast. It's one of his tropes. 184 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.759 And here in the Dark Knight returns by Frank Miller. He takes over 185 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.960 the show. Yeah, the David Undercrine show, who is basically just David 186 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:37.720 Letterman, and he's got on doctor Ruth Weisenheimer, was it, yeahs and 187 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.279 Jennifer, Yeah, something like that. And the Joker has his lipstick that 188 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:46.559 he puts on before the show and he kisses the lady and the Jokers got 189 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.360 the laced with the vendom and she goes bananas and oh the Batman and Dark 190 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:52.919 Nver turns to the end of the mid one for that sequence. First of 191 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:54.960 all, Conan O'Brien is funny differ, Yeah, which is Greareat. Yeah, 192 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.120 absolutely. But doctor Walper is Michael McKee's Michael McKean, Yes, the 193 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.399 great Michael McKean, who he talked about on our last episode, who played 194 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:08.159 the Joker on that episode of Legends of the Dark Knight played the fifties Joker, 195 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.480 and he's back here playing doctor Walper. And the guy who plays the 196 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.519 Joker on it is Michael Emerson from Lost Right plays it perfect. Yeah, 197 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.200 wish love me. I love a quiet joker. Yeah, quiet jokers. 198 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:26.360 Freaking Cameron Monaghan did a really scary quiet Oh yeah, yeah his joker, 199 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.679 his his fake joker. Yeah, there was two of them. More. 200 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:37.480 There was Jeremiah and there was Jerome was all the manifestations crazy Joker and lunatic 201 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:42.799 j and Jeremiah was there would find elegant Joker. I see Jerome is the 202 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:48.080 one that becomes the green haired guy in the last episode. Oh that's Jeremiah. 203 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.360 Oh okay, yeah, no, Jerome is killed before it was. 204 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:53.960 Yeah, I don't know. I'm in love with Cameron Monaghan before it really, 205 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:56.279 yeah, it was. He had a lot of fun with it. 206 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.000 In fact, I'll find the name trying to cut her in here. But 207 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:07.000 there's this proto Harley character on the show. Oh yeah, yeah, I 208 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.680 remember that. There's a there's a scene with her describing how she became who 209 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.000 who she is and because she played a game of abruption Roulett and it went 210 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.440 off and the bullet's still in her head and she can hear it that Harley 211 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:25.119 believe he's scared. Let's get out the dark night, because what the he 212 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:27.640 has a falling out of the scene. Oh he does. I'm assuming he 213 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:32.480 does, because he swears he's never gonna work for them again. Oh wow, 214 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.759 I mean, although he eventually does. Yeah, but that's when he 215 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.960 splits off to do independent work and starts Dark Horse. Yeah, and it's 216 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.440 like nineteen ninety ninety one, ninety two, that's when he does give me 217 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:47.119 the liberty. Oh yeah, give me liberties with Dave Gibbons and with Dave 218 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:51.480 Gibbons of Watchman thing, Martha Washington Man, what a great comic man. 219 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:56.160 It's and one of the more prophetic by the then. Yeah, one of 220 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.720 the more prophetic fight pieces from that era. Curious stick America Civil War going 221 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:07.920 on, Washington the only true American left and with a former crummy president coming 222 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:11.759 back to try to make a comeback as a robot and a brain and a 223 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.559 robot body. There was a scene in there where she has to where a 224 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:19.240 space station has been taken over, so she'd send her up to go take 225 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:23.240 it back for us and all of the villains that armed themselves with projunctile weapons 226 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.119 and she brought us sored. They're like, what do you do with that 227 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:29.759 story? I said, can't use your guns, dummy, And then yeah, 228 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:36.079 and those villains are gay biker Nazis. Yes, because the factions in 229 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:38.519 the United States are out of control. Man. Yeah, with the I 230 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:42.759 just remember the Surgeon General just being like they would eventually copy the Scientist and 231 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:47.839 escape from LA. But the Surgeon General is like this mad Sciences is making 232 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:52.799 over the Eastern Seaboards and calling it he calls it God's Country. Yeah, 233 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.880 and there's and there's franchise wars, so like like Bob's Big Boy versus McDonald's 234 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:02.440 or whatever it is, Yeah, taking over the Amazon, and it's all 235 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.119 very judged Dred. It very judge Dredd. I'd love. I've been wanting 236 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:07.759 to make a movie out of that since I was in high school. Man, 237 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.559 I don't know how it would play today, but like it or a 238 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:15.599 TV show or something. But obviously people on Hume before it, they all 239 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.079 went to see Civil War. Yeah, on the pre the prere they were 240 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:22.319 going to see a silver ware you give him the silvil ward, but you 241 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:25.839 do it in a fun way. It's a very fun way and maddening, 242 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:30.519 but it's also again it's prophetic comics. Who met the comics of the era 243 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:33.279 that pretty prophetic with the sci fi, but that one, really, that 244 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:37.839 one in VI fora vendetta, I think for the most And he also does 245 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.599 what else does he do over there? Rusty the Guy Robot, Rusty and 246 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.240 the Big Rusty the boy Robot and Big Guy. That's a little later he 247 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.599 does that with Jeff Darrow. Yeah, but that's before. And then he 248 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:55.079 also does the best thing with Jeff Darry does Hard Boiled, which is just 249 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.039 the coolest three or four issues of the comic you ever saw. There's barely 250 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.559 any dialogue in it. It's about this robot that works for a corporation and 251 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.839 they put a new personality in it every time he gets blown up, and 252 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:12.440 they basically kind of a Blade Runner situation that he goes after rogue robots or 253 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:18.839 something. Really, the plot is so inconsequential, it's just similart by Jeff 254 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:22.759 Darrow that Jeff Darrow was one of the designers in the matrix. Go find 255 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:26.000 that comic. So religious siens, I mean it's something for me. Yeah, 256 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:30.359 I want to do something that was like Mickey Spalane absolutely Mickey Splaine three 257 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.720 times removed. And if you re goo back to the Dark, Knay returns 258 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.960 the Dark. Nay returns. What makes it when his most identifying feature. 259 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:41.880 Also in Batman Year one that he wrote greater art by David Mazuchelli on that 260 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.519 one. But anyways, he has the voice over a lot of the narration, 261 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:49.079 which is part of noir films. You have a voiceover Fin the character, 262 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:52.839 and he's the first guy to get in Batman's head. This is what 263 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:57.279 Batman thinks, but he wants he carries that over into because he's Batman like 264 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:02.759 a like a Mickey Splaine character. Yeah he was, he's No, I 265 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:07.079 don't think so. No, I think Dashal Hammetal Hammett kind of what I 266 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:10.759 got from that, But for Sin City one hundred percent, because Hammett and 267 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:12.640 Chandler, those guys were the real deal. The dise flames kind of came 268 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:15.880 up at for them is kind of anything. He may have been a tough 269 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.799 guy or whatever, but he wasn't. He didn't. No, he's not 270 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:22.119 Nasal Hammet or there's no eloquence to me. No, no, but that's 271 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.640 he doesn't need to have it. But since that he doesn't either, since 272 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:32.559 he is two fisted and ham handed, and it's fueled on on on on 273 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:38.160 whiskey and somas and cigarettes. Dames and games and drugs. Yeah, and 274 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:45.640 the roorcks. So so this is okay. So he's he starts making Sin 275 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.359 City. He's oh you. In an interview I read, he said he 276 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:53.599 always had his biggest trouble drawing cars and girls. So that kind of helped 277 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:59.559 fuel the subject matter here because he's going to force himself to do nothing but 278 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:03.200 car, yeah, and girl, and he draws the best cars. The 279 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.920 cars and those have like such personality too. Man, it's a masterclass on 280 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:11.519 what the comic medium could do. Those Frank Millers and City comics. I 281 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:17.079 mean all negative space. It's just black and white, man, black and 282 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:21.000 white, and then every now and then here's some red or some yellow or 283 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:23.720 some blue. But for the most part, negative space is the the ki 284 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:29.160 though, And unfortunately that's my what I try to do in space a sect. 285 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:30.519 If I tried to work with that, it's really hard to pull off, 286 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:34.759 and kind of any live action, if you get too high contrasting, 287 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:41.000 then you lose a lot of definition and you get a lot of artifacts to 288 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:44.759 like a lot of pixelation and stuff. See that's what I noticed in the 289 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:48.240 from film, from comic to film. Yes, they went as far as 290 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:53.160 they could in filmmaking here to recreate the frame and recreate the exact images. 291 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:57.519 But what you're saying is absolutely true. There are tons of backgrounds that they 292 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:02.960 had to put in, Yeah, because because if you're just black, background, 293 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:07.640 white everything else, eventually your mind reels in horror. And Yeah, 294 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.839 so you will see building fassans, except whereas Miller didn't need it, he 295 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.599 could get away with just silhouettes. Yeah, for an entire story. So 296 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:18.920 it definitely shows you that if you're gonna adapt in City, I'd like to 297 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.960 see it an animation at some point. Apparently, Oh really, Okay, 298 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.559 well there you go. But this movie is great. I'm not trying to 299 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:29.440 detract from it at all because I really enjoy this. I've always enjoyed this 300 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:33.480 picture, and it was a big influence on me on technically more than anything 301 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.160 how to shoot a green screen thing. So okay, it's his biggest thing 302 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:41.880 since Dark Knight Returns. Yeah, and the longest running thing because we had 303 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:45.559 tons of issues in the city, all all through Dark Horse percent all throughout 304 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.799 the Yeah, all throughout the nineties was all about sin City for them. 305 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:52.400 He snuck in three hundred and there. That's right, that's turned the century. 306 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.960 There. Yeah, nine, which is his other Sin City, The 307 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.960 Dark Mary Turned Sin City, and three hundred. That's what you need to 308 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.720 read. I would argue some of those electra comics too. Yeah, it 309 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.480 was Lectress Ash. It was pretty good, pretty hard car. Yeah, 310 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:10.839 free your character and didn't kill her yeah, and bring her back yeah, 311 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:15.079 and then yeah, I've got Electric Lives again on the shelf. So Ronan 312 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.920 too. Yeah. Rodan was one of his early master his early really great 313 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:25.440 books about a samurai who gets sucked into the twenty second century. It's basically 314 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:30.759 Samurai Jackman. The whole godcept does it differently, but he basically there's a 315 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:34.519 demon in both time periods and then he gets sucked in the future and he's 316 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.440 got to deal with it. It's great stuff. As early as nineteen ninety 317 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.359 thirty they were trying since feed Yeah, thank god they did. No, 318 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:47.359 it would have been a nightmare. There would have been none of the personality, 319 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:52.000 the prosthetics. There would be definitely none of the neesan playing. Yeah, 320 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.279 they're playing enough like these people, so it'd be just another comic book 321 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:03.400 adaptation. But it can't be. It's two stylized and unless you were gonna 322 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:08.880 go full on League, Blade Runner immersive world. This is not our world. 323 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.960 Streets of Fire, Walter Hill, Yeah, I know what's going it's 324 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.000 gonna do that. What are you just gonna do? You shoot in La 325 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:21.720 I guess I mean based in the city. The eponymous sin city of the 326 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.240 title is Los Angeles bas Yeah, it's Los Angeles. It's got tar pits, 327 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:29.799 it's got the ocean there, and it's got the Mulholland drivectiply. Yeah. 328 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.279 I can't call any movie that I want to make about my hometown, 329 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.160 Las Vegas sin City, which is is my only bone to pick. I 330 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.960 ever, I'm gonna really with this franchise and these stories. I don't like 331 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:44.640 the word franchise. With these stories, I can't call it sin City. 332 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.319 I can't make a movie about Vegas and call it sin city anymore. We're 333 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:52.200 in sin City. It's literally, it's what we're called selfish Frank Miller Basin 334 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:55.839 City, my ass the Los Angeles base and that being said, though, 335 00:25:55.920 --> 00:26:00.319 yeah, it's La Somverstily no film gets made in the meantime. Of course, 336 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.519 we all know Robert Rodriguez's story and El Maria she what she made for 337 00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:11.279 three thousand dollars. Sure you did seven seven seven. This was here a 338 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.599 couple of years older than I was, but I was just starting college and 339 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:21.240 taking film classes. And Robert Rodriguez was the legend told by the natives in 340 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.720 the hills about about the movie making and with him and Kevin Smith. But 341 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.720 yeah, Javin Smith and his credit cards and Robert Rodriguer is going to an 342 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:33.880 insane asylum. C Yeah, rubble without a crew dog. Here's the big 343 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.599 secret about that. He shot it for seven thousand dollars. Just toll cost 344 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.640 a million bucks because Sony put a million bucks into it after they bought it, 345 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.279 and didn't he have access to the locations that were ridiculous, Like he 346 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.240 basically had an entire town to shoot in. But I mean, you go 347 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.440 into Mexico, you can probably pull that off. That's what I'm saying. 348 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:55.920 The seven thousand dollars if you were shooting in like Detroit, ain't gonna get 349 00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.279 you when it goes. That being said, he was our hero basically when 350 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.160 we were in school, Like he was like, dude, this dude, 351 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.000 this crazy dude from Texas pulled this shit out of his ass and got this 352 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.759 huge deal. I'm not done grinding anything because I too, and I stand 353 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:12.559 in awe of him. Yeah, not only then he made it on his 354 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.960 own, but he has been incredible visual lot, Yeah, he does. 355 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.319 And what I always admired about was he did all himself. Man, is 356 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.400 what I'm like. I know how to run a green screen and do the 357 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.720 special effects, and I can cut the picture and all this stuff, and 358 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.920 now I can shoot too, like and I did that because I admired him 359 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.480 so much, because the way he did it, He's no one's gonna let 360 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:36.119 me do it, so I'm just gonna do it. I And while what 361 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:40.440 he do with Sin City is really amazing, I know, a co directed 362 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:45.480 by Frank Miller and special guest director. Okay, thank you Mirra Max for 363 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:49.480 that wonderful marketing scheme. But come on, this is Rob Rorigers. His 364 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:55.680 master work is his best movie. It's the one he should be remembered for 365 00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.119 for doing. For he's the only guy really to make a comic book on 366 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.799 the screen. Here's a comic book, and I'm going to make it for 367 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.680 you right now. I admire Zach Snyder's three hundred a lot because he kind 368 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:11.319 of did something similar. He made that comic book. He adapted it pretty 369 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.319 well, but Man Sin City Late was the first one to do it, 370 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.720 and he took virtual production, which was pioneered by Lucas, and he said, 371 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.039 you don't have to beat George Lucas to do this. You can do 372 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.599 this yourself. And that's what I did. I find I want a Gris 373 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.079 Speer in my garage and see what I can pull out of my butt. 374 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:32.119 Yeah. He had been up until then doing the productions like in the Spy 375 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:36.279 Kids movies and Shark Boy and Lava Girth. Yeah, and all of those 376 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.400 were just practice for this. Yeah, and once he got it, he 377 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.119 fucking ran with it. God blissed that he did, Man, because no 378 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.240 one else was gonna do it. Yeah. I know who the filmmaker was, 379 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.559 because whoever they work and commit in his hardcore as they would do this. 380 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.000 And the whole thing about the co directing thing. Look, he got 381 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:57.119 his panties in a twist about the fucking DGA telling him he can have it, 382 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:03.559 and he resigned from d G and who cares what he At one point 383 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.119 he wanted to give Frank Miller the credit, like He'll just give him, 384 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:08.359 yeah, And Frank Miller said, no, I don't want it, No, 385 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.559 you take no, let's both who cares, idiots, just get the 386 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.720 movie in. Yeah. And Robert Rodriguez is pretty his He really has no 387 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.880 ego about it. He's just I don't care, dude, I just want 388 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.119 to make the movie. I just want to have the fun of getting to 389 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.960 hang out with Frank Miller for a year and making him man adapting a comic 390 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.400 book with him. That's like for him that it was about that journey, 391 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.279 I imagine and get what he got came out of it. I admire the 392 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.640 love for it, but I would never All I've wanted to do is join 393 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.000 the DGA in my whole life. So I don't think I could ever just 394 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.799 give that away. But I'm not Robert Rodriguez. Well, Lucas didn't. 395 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:47.519 Lucas did too, Yeah, because because Star Wars that you couldn't. He 396 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:49.440 want the credits at the end, at the beginning, so he resigns med 397 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:55.519 and then but then again that's an artistic choice. Man. I can't respect 398 00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:59.640 George least George Lucas broke the fucking the code there, because man, how 399 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.880 many fl don't have to? Yeah forgetting And I admire Rodriguez, so you 400 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.519 stick to your guns man. But again, I mean, how much fucking 401 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.119 print will? How much was he on the scent Tom? And what lens 402 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.160 do you? Yeah, I mean it's quaint and God bless him and whatever, 403 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.200 and you got to hang out with your idol, but don't make him 404 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.960 the code around it. He said, he's answering some questions about the characters 405 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:23.039 from me. It's head, that's all he's doing. But all respect Yeah, 406 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.759 Robert, I would have nominated Rodriguez for an Oscar for this movie because 407 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:32.400 it's absolutely he should have been. This is one of the finest this everybody's 408 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.079 well, Chris Nolan, the king of the comic book movie, fuck you, 409 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.640 then Robert Rodriguez did it. I'm annoyed that Robert Rodriguez hasn't done a 410 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.759 Marvel movie yet and hasn't done a DC movie, because I mean, he's 411 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:48.039 born for it. Everybody poo poos a lot about Boba Fett, but I 412 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.279 think Boba Fett was a mess because there was a lot of transition going on 413 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.599 there and they had to cancel shows and they had to fire if they fired 414 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:59.480 some foks. His episode, Mandalorian, his episode is the best episode, 415 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.599 and those last two episodes. I mean, a lot of the Bubbaffett Show 416 00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.559 is great, and that thing when bull Effect comes writing in on the rank 417 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:14.839 court like thank you for making me for pleasing eight year old me who wanted 418 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.039 to see Bubbaffet do something like that. So all the best for Robber Arms, 419 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.279 as far as I turned this movie is, it is well, let's 420 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:23.880 get into it. Yeah, there is one thing I didn't notice about it. 421 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:29.359 Yes, it's really fast. You think it's more than two hours, 422 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.640 I know, but it doesn't feel it at all. The pacing on this 423 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.880 movie is like a line of cocaine. It is. But if you ever 424 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.839 read a Sin City comic book and I was still playing in my head because 425 00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.039 I'm like, slowed it, slow down, and I'm like, no, 426 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.480 I remember, I would burn through those Sin City comic books in five minutes 427 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.160 and then read them again. Yeah, because again you burn through them. 428 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:55.119 They're designed like that almost because it's a lot of single splash pages, minimal 429 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:59.079 dialogue sometimes sometimes a lot of what'sover. But yeah, they're really quick books. 430 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.920 I find myself some time just doing a dialogue pass through a comic and 431 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:07.240 then doing the artwork paths or vice versa. Sometimes one screams over the other 432 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.799 and rereadable too, like you should go back to them and reread them over 433 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.880 and over again. They were always a lot of fun. I was a 434 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.000 prejectionist when Cincinney came out. So I saw this movie, Oh wow, 435 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.200 And then I went to the drive Indigo see it because I had to see 436 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:28.319 it. And that's setting with the perfect place. Yeah, oh wow, 437 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.480 yeah they should wow, yeah wow. That's but okay, so the story 438 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:36.480 is adapted here. They chose three stories and then the one that you mentioned 439 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.119 was just sort of the test film that they made, the Little Three Men. 440 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:43.119 At the beginning that story is called the Customers Always right, that's stirring 441 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.440 the hitman and his prey, and turns that she hired him. Maybe I 442 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:50.920 think I think that's hire them. He hires him because who knows why, 443 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.559 But anyway, she's like, i'll cash your check in the morning. Right, 444 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.960 it's just a proof of concept. Real that happens to be so fucking 445 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.839 good that why wouldn't they put him? Yeah, and you know a second, 446 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.440 Josh Hart, and I feel, yeah, we lost twenty years a 447 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.359 really good leading man there with him. I get it. If he made 448 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:08.359 his own choice, he's like, I don't want to be Batman. I 449 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.039 don't want to be that famous. I don't want to be Spider Man. 450 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.519 I don't want to be that famous. And I can respect that, but 451 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.240 damn, that's too bad. It is. But everyone should watch Penny Dreadful. 452 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.160 He's great on Penny Dreadful. He's great on Penny Trick. He's great 453 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:23.279 Py Dreadful. He can want it, goes off the rails, he's still 454 00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.759 there. I was unassure of that guy. Yeah, I know he's good. 455 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.880 When I watched that show, I was like, he's got it, 456 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:30.960 He's got the Vimmins. Yeah, it's too bad. I feel like of 457 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:36.200 my contemporaries that were actors, he was really really strong, and I would 458 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:40.039 have preferred seeing him play all those Leonarda, Gabrielle roles. Did you imagine 459 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:43.160 him in the Revenue? Oh that would have been so good. He would 460 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.880 have good. Yeah. Actually, so I'm glad he's back. Yeah. 461 00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.640 I wasn't a fan, too big of a fan of Oppenheimer, but I 462 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.759 was really happy to see him. Well he's almost good. Yeah, yeah, 463 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:57.000 I mean dud so the customers always right said rap around story, but 464 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.119 then they chose the hard Goodbye, the Big Fan Kill, and then the 465 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.039 Ollen Bunch. Those are the three best. Yeah, although I like the 466 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.480 Dave mckill four a lot because I love the Dwight running around with the bandages 467 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.039 on his face. What a great visual that is, is that right? 468 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.320 Yeah? But the adaptation wasn't very good. No, it was not. 469 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:23.559 But the Marv story here, which is the big fat Kale, is the 470 00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:29.639 hard goodbye, the hard goodbye. Yeah. I like the Mars story more. 471 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:35.920 I like this participation mar oh really yeah, because well we'll get to 472 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.800 it. But I have a problem with Frank Miller's depiction the ladies, which 473 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:44.280 are either sex a jects or sent worth it. Yeah, I mean this 474 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.960 was something in watching it now, I was noticing that too. I'm like, 475 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.840 wow, they're all The only one who isn't is the Carl Gugino. 476 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.000 Right, it was a da I mean it was a parole officer. But 477 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:04.119 even she functions all yeah, and she's yeah a facilitator and then a with 478 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:10.599 mom and then and then and Nancy and Hartigan's relationship is weird, super weird. 479 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:16.480 And that's something that that Frank Miller has floated around a lot. He 480 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.719 loves old guys, and those young girls. He loves that dynamic and it's 481 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.800 a little weird and prostitution. What's Selena Kyle and she's returns. Yes, 482 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.840 a madam. Yeah, she's a madam and in year one she's a dominatrix. 483 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.480 So that's why. And I think like The Dame to Kill for a 484 00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.920 story, if it had been put into Sin City, the first one, 485 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.679 I think it would be a perfect movie. Yeah, that's where they end. 486 00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.239 It's like Dwight, he teams up with Dwight and yeah, and he 487 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.840 goes he fucking recent. Yeah, it's great, so we still get all 488 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.519 of the crazy mad but this Mark, but the Hard Goodbuye is the first 489 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.880 and Sin City comic. No, no, it actually needs to be there. 490 00:35:55.000 --> 00:36:00.840 I'm just saying where the story goes fun in yeah, and getting to 491 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.559 kill for it because he's just counted a Rome. But I don't mind Heartbroken 492 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.920 Marv. I don't mind Mark going to the fucking electric chair. I just 493 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:12.400 I just don't like hanging old Yeah, it's and the dam to Kill four. 494 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.800 Yeah, it's all in old Town. Well, but at least they're 495 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:17.920 killing people in the Yeah, but the Eva Green character, at least it 496 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:22.400 is a female character with agency, right, it's under ended whatever, who 497 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.360 cares? That's what if m Fetale is supposed to be she's the only girl 498 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:31.519 of the only woman out there fucking doing shit making an everyone else is just 499 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:36.920 waiting for man to help them or being used by men. Because what's crazy 500 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:38.599 to me about the whole Old time Look, let's put it out there. 501 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:44.880 Old Town is basically the slummy area where all the sex workers have gone there. 502 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.159 There's a truce between net and the police when the police don't go to 503 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.800 Old Town or they're getting fucking killed. And I don't understand what the truth 504 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.639 is because I don't know what the cops are they being paid, Yeah, 505 00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.280 and they again, what does she say? Right now? The cops get 506 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.199 free entertained it when they throw a party, Okay, so they get to 507 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:07.400 fuck for free and then and imagine like cops fuck hookers are free anyways, 508 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.760 right, so there's no chance like we're doing that any anyway. Oh yeah, 509 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.239 no, I have this ship makes any sense. It's young people talk 510 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.599 about problematic and yeah, everything is now I guess nowadays. But yeah, 511 00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.639 no, I watched this movie again and I love this movie. But yeah, 512 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.320 it's definitely there are no, no empowered women in it, and all 513 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.800 the women's are, all the ladies are victims in it all up, like 514 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:35.599 all the prostitutes, even the strongest one, the strongest lady in it is 515 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.239 is Rosario Dawson Dale, who's in charge of old Town and all of this 516 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:45.000 stuff, and it's all but it's bossing Dwight around until he punches her and 517 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.639 then she's like, oh, I love you. Did I just see in 518 00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.519 the politics and not misbving the strong suits and they and we could only blame 519 00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:59.679 him here because it's Spreight adaptation, a transcription, if you will, from 520 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.400 screen. So maybe, yeah, maybe I think Dame Ly Killed four would 521 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.159 have been a better but then it would have just been a whole It just 522 00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.559 would have been a lot of Marv though. Yeah, I could deal with 523 00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:14.000 that. Yeah, we're still Twine, he's still in there. Yeah is 524 00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.320 that okay? So that's okay, but it's getting the march there Mickey Royer, 525 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.199 Wow right, yeah what Yeah? I mean, Look, I've been 526 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:27.519 a Mickey York fan from fucking Dane one since a diner. I've always been 527 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.559 a Yeah, he's great at it. But like the framing sequence of the 528 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.159 movie, though, it was before we get to Mickey york Is. It 529 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.440 starts with It's got almost two framing sequences. Oh right, yeah, we 530 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.400 didn't start with Marv. Yeah, we gotta start with Hardigan. Yeah, 531 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:44.920 because it's what Josh Hartnett's hit Man shows up again at the end of the 532 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.840 at the end of the picture. So it's like there's two framing Yeah, 533 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:51.719 there's two book ends. Are just gonna be weird. But it plays okay, 534 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.960 it plays great actually because okay, so we started with Hardigan on his 535 00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:00.239 last day, yeah job, but basically he's gonna say young Nancy from a 536 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.920 serial killer or a pedophile who happens to be a nick stung. Yeah, 537 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.960 playing one of the Rourke family here in Basin City of the Rourkes are the 538 00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:15.599 Kennedys, basically, but a much more crime oriented more than usual than Kennedy's 539 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.840 sort of situation. And here's the youngest and there do well Son, who's 540 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.679 a fucking psychopath and child well, yeah, the Kennedy's, and they were 541 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.679 they were crooks and then became legitim Oh yeah, they were bootleggers, players, 542 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.639 Yeah, and then they became legitimate more or less afterwards. But so 543 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.840 he said, but these guys are like eternal criminals. Yeah. Yeah, 544 00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.559 I mean I think they're like, yeah, they're Yeah, absolutely, there's 545 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:43.119 a good analogy. So okay, here's the one thing this almost makes me 546 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.480 turn the movie off. The opening lines of dialogue between Muncle Madson and Bruce 547 00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:52.079 Arey, where Muncle Maddison is an exposition machine who tells us everything that Brice 548 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:58.400 Willis has just told us. Invoice every Yeah, and you're pushing sixty. 549 00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.599 Yeah, he get a bum ticker. Okay, can we think is it 550 00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:07.079 me? Or can is Michael Madson only ever good in Tarantino movies? No, 551 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.079 that's not true, because he's great and fell on Louise and he's good 552 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:15.599 on those Bond movies too, and he did a biker movie with Charlie Sheen 553 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.800 Club not Above the Law but something like that, which he's fucking great, 554 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.719 and he's terrible in this. He's great in war Games. It's Orgames. 555 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:28.559 He's in the opening Turn your key, sir, that's Michael Manson. That 556 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:34.320 is right, Oh my god, wow, because he's terrible in this. 557 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.760 Oh he's No, it's the characters, it's the Bond. Yeah, I 558 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.599 don't care who we're gonna stick on that stick in that role. It was 559 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.480 push at sixty with a bum digger. I always arm with that whole NIGHTE 560 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:50.280 that sound normal. I casting Bruce Willis is great, but I feel like, 561 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:54.559 man, it was nobody bigger because hard again is Batman is like he's 562 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.559 knowing I mean what I mean, he's Batman, He's a dark Man, 563 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:02.719 returns Batman and like he's Batman. Marv two is another, like they're both 564 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.360 kind of in that same big size guy and Dwight is definitely Superman. But 565 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.079 so I feel like Hardigan should have been bigger. But his performance is great. 566 00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.440 Oh yeah, and it's one of his I think Bruce Willis's best performance 567 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.039 is still Paul Fiction, but this is is up there bull Fiction to die 568 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:23.760 hard. Yeah, yeah, are the ones twelve Monkeys have Twelve Monkeys is 569 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:28.920 good? Okay, So all right, So Harrigan's gonna say the girl blah 570 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.559 blah blah, shoot Nix style a bunch of times. Love the White Blood. 571 00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.320 Yeah, it's great. Love the White Blood splatters this it's such a 572 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.639 neat trick. It's like what the Rimero did Creep Show, which is he 573 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:44.360 just put red lights on every scene that We're gonna have blood so water pouring, 574 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:45.679 so it's like, fuck you, m p a A. He had 575 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.760 Nick Stalls really good. I feel like he didn't really work much either, 576 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.639 like he did Twelve Monkeys the TV show, but he's really good. He 577 00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:58.119 gives a really one hinge performance in this, and he's really creepy, and 578 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.960 I think he's definitely gonna rape that little, poor little overall, I think 579 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:08.119 his problem might be that creep factor just seeds inherent. He's got Urt Tanilson 580 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:14.639 from a brand lead. Joz was one of the nineteen different John Connors, 581 00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:17.760 like Jeremy Davies like that. Oh yeah, yeah, creep, yeah, 582 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:22.440 creep. Just don't let him near kids. I love these guys. I 583 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:28.920 think they are could talented, but good lord. Okay, so basically I 584 00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.280 really liked writing in this. I liked this. It's such everything here is 585 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.920 a noir trope. We've seen it all a million times. But Cardigan shot 586 00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:43.280 to pieces by his backstabbing, back shooting partner Michael Madison, is just trying 587 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.679 to stall for time to keep Nancy lived. Because as soon as the authorities, 588 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:50.599 the rest of the authorities, the police, the the ambulance, Nancy's 589 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.599 gonna be okay because if he dies beforehand, get shot fucking yeah, dumped 590 00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:00.480 in that, it's yeah, it's very macho. This is rob This is 591 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:05.119 like one of the This is one of the most macho movies of the twenty 592 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.679 ver century because I just can't stop thinking, there's no fem fatale in that. 593 00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:13.280 Not one. The closest thing is galling Gale is not a fem fatale. 594 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.960 Not even now. I want to go cut into the Dame mc killfour 595 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.440 and it can That's the before you know, when I went to rewatch this, 596 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:30.960 I watched the recut extended version, right, have you watched that's the 597 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.280 one where you just watched the individual watched the four individual service, I have 598 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.280 it. Hated it. Yeah, it doesn't work, right, I know 599 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:39.639 it doesn't. It doesn't. If this were a TV series, I'd be 600 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:44.760 like, well, maybe I'll tune in the sleeping. But the hard we 601 00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:49.440 want in particular is what does not work, because that if you fall away 602 00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:54.400 in one through line where he dies effectively here in this opening, yeah, 603 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.360 and then the next scene is him just being kicked around by cops, I'm 604 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.280 like, well, what the fact? In my mind as a viewer for 605 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:08.000 the first time watching that movie hard again as a fair trade. He lived 606 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:12.079 long enough, that's a noble sacrifice, and it it comes back to you're 607 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.320 like, holy shit, he's still not an awesome by the end of the 608 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:21.599 week. I love them. Yeah, it's a I think that's a great 609 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:24.679 that's a great piece. I like the structure a lot, you know what 610 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:30.000 I mean, Like the structure is almost REMANI isn't of pulp fiction. I 611 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:37.559 was thinking that this was a spiritual successor a pulp fiction almost like it's almost 612 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.400 a decade apart and they're basically kind of telling the same story. There's the 613 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.360 same movie. It's nice neo nore about la right, and the sort of 614 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:52.679 some title that pulp fiction script was like three stories about one story. Yeah, 615 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.679 so yeah, no, And I totally get that. Fine, And 616 00:44:55.079 --> 00:45:01.599 I love when an anthology can tie itself back into itself without being overly prencious 617 00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:07.079 about Yeah, because these characters in these situations bump up against each other. 618 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.400 There are scenes where all the characters are present in the same scene, not 619 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:14.920 even interacting with one and the love I don't need more than that. I 620 00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.000 wouldn't mind as an editor, it would be kind of fun to take that 621 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.320 and like maybe recut it a little bit, because I remember in my head 622 00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.360 a little bit that I thought these movie intercut more, and they don't intercut 623 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.920 at all. They're just straightforward. The only one that that is its own 624 00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.519 thing that splits up is that Yellow Bastard, which is the greatest title in 625 00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:37.519 history. What a great title, that Yellow Bastard. Eh Oh. And 626 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.880 then to just make it literal, Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, it's 627 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.079 pretty great. But we're that's later in the movie. Yeah, well, 628 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.679 in order, so we have his great little opening here with Hargiguin and the 629 00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.239 little girl met. The girl's really good man. Yeah, I really enjoyed 630 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.320 it. She's not bocious, she's not precocious shows this is the end GiB 631 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.159 Yeah, She's not like Dakota Fanning in uh War of the World. No, 632 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.039 it just seems like a little girl situation. Yeah, I understand. 633 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.599 Yeah, And Bruce Willis's delivery is just always really good in it, and 634 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:17.239 Bruce willis Is performing makes the relationship less creepy because it is one turn on 635 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.920 yeah until she turns me, you know, but we'll get to that. 636 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.880 We'll get to that later. And so we get into from here. So 637 00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:28.559 he's left for dead and the audience thinks he's dead. But at least a 638 00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:35.039 little girl is safe because she hears other cops there on to r Yeah. 639 00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.960 Now, man, Mickey Rourke, how do you go from being the handsomest 640 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.599 guy in Hollywood to not being the handsomest guy in Hollywood? Like him? 641 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.280 May spend the nineties in a boxing He's a weird dude. He is a 642 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:51.760 weird fucking guy. Yeah, but he's one hundred people and on. You 643 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.239 know who reminds me of him is Tom Hardy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 644 00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:02.480 same certain yeah, Eric quality, but Hardy not as batshit crazy, 645 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.920 right Tom Hardy? Seemson c I have a conversation, wouldn't with scratchings heads. 646 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:13.280 So there was this writer back in the eighties or nineties. His name 647 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:16.360 was Joe Keenan Joe Queenan, Yeah, Joe Queen And he wrote this book 648 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.880 if you're talking to me, your career must be in trouble. And he 649 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.239 probably wrote for Esquire, Rolling Stone and that type, that type of guy 650 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:29.000 who was one of those man about town a columnist, humorous columnists. And 651 00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.199 he did his piece called Mickey Rourke for a day. Oh my god, 652 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:36.760 I bet this when it came out. I've had this book I stole from 653 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.320 his kid in college. Sorry, I took your book, dude. It 654 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:45.280 just smoked twice cigarettes a five Am rise, smoke first Marlborough five O one, 655 00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:52.159 smashed bathroom mirror with fist first, unintelligible eyed motherfucker, unintelligible motherfuckers who 656 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.960 want me to compromise my principles and suck their cocks. And it just goes 657 00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:00.840 on like that, seven forty eight Am Visit, Dirty Bookstore, Times, 658 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:06.639 Square, Batsu, Bondage, Life, particuling Scene, Footnotes, smoke eleventh 659 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.360 Marboro, and it just kind of goes on and on it there's still funniestly 660 00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.159 please so you can find this article online or something because it's no buddy, 661 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:19.519 But it just sums up the lunacy of who Mickey Yorke was in the eighties 662 00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.880 and nineties. Like he was he started his career in the eighties like and 663 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:30.920 Diner and Pop a grawage village and by body he's the arsonist and body Yeah, 664 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:32.599 and then he was in nineteen forty one he's one of the guys in 665 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.079 the tank. Yeah, Like he was an up and comer in nine and 666 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.639 a half weeks. Yeah, and then then Angel Heart, oh and nine 667 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.039 and a half weeks was a sex was a sex thriller, which they used 668 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.280 to make a lot of these back then, where like famous people would bang 669 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.920 on camera and then there'll be a murderer in there. And then Angel Heart, 670 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.960 Angel Heart is and neo noir direct to buy the great and underrated Alan 671 00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.199 Parker, who made the commitment. It's in Pink Floyd, the Wall and 672 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:07.000 a bunch of other than Bugsy Malone. Bugsy Malone about eleven year old gangsters 673 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.559 playing adult gangsters and them they were like these little kids cossplaying as adults and 674 00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:15.599 they're shooting each other with like potato guns, splurge guns, they fluring pies, 675 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.360 they shoot cream pie And it's a musical. And it's a musical except 676 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.719 that the musical that all of the songs are sung by adults and kids who 677 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:29.639 just loop thinking. Yeah, and it's got Scott Mayo and is a weird 678 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:34.440 movie. All the songs are written by Paul Williams. Yeah, Buggsy Malone's 679 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.320 singing voice is provided by Archie Han. Oh my god, it's a great 680 00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:44.840 fucking out. But his movie, Alan Parker's movie Angel Heart is the coolest 681 00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:52.760 Neo noir absolutely best best that is played Runner. Well, that's future future 682 00:49:53.599 --> 00:50:00.199 but neir yeah Neo or n Yeah, Neo, not neon because neon noir 683 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.119 is anything that takes place in color in Los Angeles. That's a crime thriller. 684 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.840 Those are neon noirs. Oh I thought that was anything directed by that 685 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:13.519 But that European guy who did Yeah, that guy, the guy who did 686 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:17.880 that movie was a drive. Oh yeah, I thought, yeah, that's 687 00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:27.440 guys. Please give me some bisexual liking see blue and purple and fusia like 688 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:36.679 between him and freaking oh my god, where yeah you're freaking takes eight not 689 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:42.000 liking and almost a movie just keeps hammering him, like he says something like 690 00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.400 The Godfather's not good a movie or something like that. So freaking just keep 691 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:52.000 coming back. Just how yeah are you breathing right now? Man Frequent is 692 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.199 a great director on ethical I don't think shooting guns on the side of the 693 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:59.159 avera but hey, do what you gotta do. It's billy freaking God rest 694 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.719 his soul. All right. Where are we We're we finished Hargan, where 695 00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:07.159 we're in Mark. We're talking Nicky Rourke and anyways, Angel mart Is A. 696 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:10.480 He's a frivate detective and I'm using air quotes more or less, so 697 00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.639 I'm not gonna give too much away. And it gets hired by this guy, 698 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:19.920 Louis Scypier played by Robert de Niro, playing the greatest movie devil of 699 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.760 all time. Yes, the most obvious named, but a fantastic performance. 700 00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:28.760 Yeah, you'll never look at an egg the same you'll never eat. Oh 701 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.719 god, it's gross. So Mickey Burke definitely had this fucking reputation yea, 702 00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.719 as being let's just say difficult. Yeah, he was there and he just 703 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:38.920 was not easy guy. He's a drinker, smoker, hard gut And in 704 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:45.960 the nineties, like that movie Carley Davidson in the Marlboro Man, great movie. 705 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:50.559 Yeah, and I'm him and Don Johnson are pleased two n'ar Dwells who 706 00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.800 go on an adventure. That movie predicts the Matrix. I'm serious, really, 707 00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:59.360 Oh yeah, the fucking the the agents, Daniel Baldwin and those guys, 708 00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.519 the guns and then the big cloaks and everything. The end of that 709 00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:07.639 movie takes place in a skyscraper and the heroes are saying by a helicopter that 710 00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.360 shows up and blasts all of the vent, top of the top floor. 711 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:14.199 Oh yeah, heber that's a good that's a good picture. But and then 712 00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:15.760 he did it was eight and a half weeks, and then nine and a 713 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.199 half weeks. Was at the sequel, No, he did, he did 714 00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.800 nine and a half weeks, and then it was nine a half weeks. 715 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.360 Yeah, he did nine and a half weeks, and then he did Blue 716 00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:28.599 Orchid. That's the sequel to nine and a half weeks. Yeah, and 717 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:31.840 it's just another sex movie in it, right, But that one bombed bombed 718 00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:36.800 time and Harley Dare was when barb when bombed and he had a few of 719 00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:40.079 those bombs and he started boxing and like he'd always been a boxer. Yeah, 720 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:45.559 but he took it really seriously and well, he felt betrayed by Hollywood 721 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:47.159 and oh is that what it was? He got? Oh yeah, there's 722 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:53.840 a whole story with Mickey vork and his finances and feeling like he had sold 723 00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:58.079 out completely methodically Davis and the Marlborough Man, and he figured, well, 724 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.119 fuck all this, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go box want he was, 725 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:06.280 He's the quintessential tough guy actor that you know thought he was or was 726 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:08.840 actually a tough guy. You know, I wouldn't want he would always I 727 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.079 guess he was always a boxer. So you know, the guy got built 728 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.880 for Hollywood. No, he you know, he is one of those guys 729 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:20.199 who you like. Michael Shannon is another one where you see and you just 730 00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.639 got he doesn't need this at all. No, But Michael Shannon is an 731 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.880 actor's actor. Though he's all about the material. He's an actor's actor, 732 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:30.000 that guy. But Mickey Rourke was always a weird kind of nood old guy. 733 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:35.239 But I've never seen a back the form Storry. No. Never always 734 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.840 a good actor, always interesting. Yeah, and it was no surprise to 735 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:43.440 me that he was going to be so fucking great here. Yeah, he's 736 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.079 And it was one of those things when they cast him like Mickey work hasn't 737 00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:50.320 been knitting him forever. He had been in The rain Maker, the French 738 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.519 swar coped a lot of Johnition thing. He's the best thing. But he's 739 00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:59.440 got a great voice, and his Marv is I can't imagine anything right. 740 00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:05.400 And the fact that he is Marv, that Marv exists as a movie character 741 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:10.320 with the same silhouette and as the comic book is amazing. And I don't 742 00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:15.599 know how to explain that performance. It's so nuanced and yet it's so over 743 00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.920 the top of the same time. And as a character, Marv is clearly 744 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:24.280 bipolar schizophrenak and he's gonna take medication, and he has issues, blocks out 745 00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:28.920 a lot, blocks out a lot, gets confused, as he says, 746 00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.719 and sometimes he just likes to bring kntons. Yeah, just reason does not 747 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:37.719 see something else. This is a character you'd never ever want to be here 748 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:43.800 round. But it's like a performance that's a tour de force is the only 749 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.039 way to put it. Man, it's a big performance, and it's really 750 00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:50.400 great. He wanted a capemy work for the rest this, Yeah, no 751 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:52.480 kidding, he absolutely should have wont it for this, and it's one of 752 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:57.639 the best and it's probably one of the best adaptations of a comic book character, 753 00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:00.880 like best casting. But he's up to with the Iron Man, I 754 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:06.000 think is or Chris Reid is a superman. It's just pretty apps. Yeah, 755 00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:09.480 and he leaps off the page. He said character. Look, he 756 00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:15.119 absolutely does. Yeah, the Christopher Reid things, so yeah, I'm strong 757 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.599 that yeah, because Christopher Reed and that cost to me is super Yeah. 758 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:24.800 And then and his delivery is just spectacular, both with the voiceover and in 759 00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:30.800 person dialogue. It's just his delivery is really good. You gotta talk about 760 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.480 Carligo Gino's and there's, like you said, just ends up being another victim, 761 00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:37.920 which is too bad. I had a giant crush on her when this 762 00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:43.400 came out, and I still do to this day. So with a certain 763 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.239 degree, the little pervy twelve year old in me is still very grateful for 764 00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:50.960 the scenes with her. But yeah, I wish she would have met Yeah, 765 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:55.119 because just as a psychologist who or a parole officer for for Marv here. 766 00:55:55.760 --> 00:56:00.960 Yeah, she commits to the role and actually got the wreath that she's 767 00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:04.920 recreating the panels of the comic book here, and her character is Newton free, 768 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.920 unlike say later stripper characters. Yes, let's talk about it. Let's 769 00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.280 talk about Nancy. But fuck it, we don't have to go in chronological 770 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:15.119 worry here in this she's in the sequence Oh okay, let meget Yeah, 771 00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.159 that's right in the bar with we meet her as a stripper, so we 772 00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:21.079 don't know it's the little girl from the Hardgin sequence at first, we just 773 00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:23.480 think, oh, this is the main attraction here at whatever the Katie's I 774 00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:28.519 think is the name of the club, and it's a it's I don't know, 775 00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:31.840 it's a burless performance. I guess right, because it's Burlesca's stripper moves 776 00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:35.800 because she never takes off her clothes for some reason. And I know it's 777 00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:37.320 just because it's Jessica Alba and she doesn't want to take off for clothes. 778 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:40.760 But how about you just don't play the part? Yeah, well, yeah, 779 00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:45.239 she's beautiful. Though she's beautiful, she's an angel. She's good in 780 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:50.239 the part. It's actually her best performance of hers yeah, in a movie, 781 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:52.559 as her best performance. But you can argue that because it does not 782 00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:57.280 have the boobs, and the boobs are integral to the art if you're adapting 783 00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.960 its straightforward. I feel like a pig for sending it. But the mounting 784 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:04.880 it was just like what the fuck? Like why, here's the thing. 785 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.639 I appreciate her stance, and I appreciate their care for her as far as 786 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:14.880 adhering to that and not making her take her clothes off, But in that 787 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:20.920 fucking room those characters are sitting around for that perform Yeah, that's a good 788 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:23.559 point. That's an interesting point. It would be like that's the performance in 789 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:28.079 between the rest of the performances. Right, Oh, let's give Nancy her 790 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:32.400 little dude right, nice dancing Nancy. Bye. But she's like the fucking 791 00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:37.320 the top earner at that club. Just it bothers me in this thing. 792 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.119 No, the logo for the club is a silhouette of her, and you 793 00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:44.440 can see those nipples popping it. Yeah. No, with all of activity, 794 00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:45.719 I feel like a pig saying, but yeah, if you're gonna go 795 00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.639 for go for broke. Yeah. As an actor and as the filmmaker, 796 00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:54.079 we are one translates and I'm not trying to be a pig here or anything 797 00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:59.480 like that. But I've been around actors my whole life, and one I'm 798 00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:00.559 good at it. I don't really like being an actress. Kind of a 799 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:04.440 pinion us. I like being a director, a writer, director. But 800 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:07.480 been a lot of actors and young gals and our actresses, and trust me, 801 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.599 they like getting Magan. No. I mean meaning that most of them 802 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.920 are very A lot of them are very brave and are willing to do it 803 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:20.159 if the park calls for it. It makes sense, and they're not unopposed 804 00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:22.239 to it, you know what I mean. So I think finding a name 805 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.760 actor in two thousand and five. To do that part with that would have 806 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:29.800 done. It would have not been a problem. It would really easy. 807 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:37.079 And dare I say a more seasoned performer. Yeah, I mean she was 808 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:38.960 the flavor of that model. Yeah she was. And she's only like twenty 809 00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:43.280 twenty one. She's in Fantastic four at the same time. But she's equally 810 00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:47.039 miscasting. Yeah she's not. And it's not her fault either, because they're 811 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:53.360 cast in Fantastic four. Their casting, the girl was basically college aged to 812 00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.679 play the matriarch of the Fantastic Four. Yeah. It was not a good 813 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:04.559 no, it was it. It's weird casting. It's somebody gets popular and 814 00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.880 they just put a whole bunch of jobs. And I can never blame an 815 00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:10.239 actor offering you work, you fucking take it. But anyway, and even 816 00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:14.480 she knows it was not the right Hooever, she's like that that that sequel 817 00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:16.760 made her quit. She's like, I can't believe told me to cry pretty 818 00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:22.679 or said fuck So. I think she deserves a little bit of she deserved 819 00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:25.639 better representation. I don't think this may have been the movie for certainly not. 820 00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:30.119 She was great in it, though, But it's a gritty flick and 821 00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:35.679 I want Yeah, she's not gritty, not ner up, No, who 822 00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:40.360 is gretty Jamie King? She is. She's great as Goldie. Yeah, 823 00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:45.719 and and Wendy Goldie and Landy. See this is where we kind of go 824 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.639 off the rails because the March story is he's trying to he's investigating the murder 825 00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.360 of Goldie, the gonness who spent the night with him for a good reason, 826 00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:58.480 and it's heartbreaking from her. But like where we end up in old 827 00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:04.360 Town, the Mercenary and the whole to plus here's where I'm with all of 828 01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:09.000 it, not only because we've already talked about the weirdo gender sexual politics of 829 01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:15.199 Frank Miller as far as how the female characters are portrayed. But this movie 830 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:22.480 is incredibly unsexy. Did you Nothing in this movie turns me on. They 831 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.360 have a city block full of prostitutes and not one of them. All right, 832 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:34.440 everyone is garbed in some sort of like futuristic like mad Maxian kind of 833 01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:38.079 thing. There's a Zoro girl in there. For some there's a Zoro girl. 834 01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:42.239 Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, And that's the comic, is 835 01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.119 that? But I know where we're the comic being sexy though, Yeah, 836 01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:52.440 but because you had because he had drawn so say Nancy on the stripper pole, 837 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.400 and you got to see Frank Miller everything out what he had said, 838 01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:58.719 which is, I have a problem with female body. So here it is 839 01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:02.639 and he's doing and here's and it's a splash plage right of her with the 840 01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.000 rope and the boobs, and yeah, I know, I might have made 841 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.119 it a little dirtier. I think that's that problem with the studio system. 842 01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:13.159 Even well, we gotta make it, let's make it a lot so dirty. 843 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:15.800 Well I got to say no because it was drawn that way and it 844 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:20.239 was translated that way, so it's it's not in the studio interference thing. 845 01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.559 This is just a Frank Miller problem. But yeah, I know. And 846 01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.639 then an interpretation problem on Rock Veguez's part. Unless this is what turns in 847 01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:29.000 on the only thing that kind of turned me on in the movie, I 848 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.880 fired doing it. But Kurga Gino, she only got naked, and that's 849 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:37.559 because I think she's floating from now that only a drive did everything else that 850 01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:39.119 was supposed to turn me on. I was just like, I get what's 851 01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:43.719 happening? Yeah, well calla Rosario. Every time I see Rosario like, 852 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.239 oh, it's for Sario. I gotta crush on ros Ario. Well, 853 01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:50.400 yeah, I know, I see what you mean. But the treators turned 854 01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:54.320 on by beautiful woman screaming firing machine gun. Well then it's this movie's for 855 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:58.199 you. But that doesn't just do it for you. He addresses them all 856 01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:02.159 like superheroes, a wonder woman. There's sexy ways to do that. Gale 857 01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:07.159 has read that Dominatrix thing, but it's like the most complicated Dominatrix outfit you 858 01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:10.400 ever saw. Yeah, and you know they gets wears in the seat. 859 01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:15.079 Yeah, but they put her in one of those dungeon minister like a leather 860 01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:17.199 stole. Yeah, it stuns on it and stuff. I'm like, wait 861 01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.760 the whole lot. That sequel doesn't work as much this one does almost like 862 01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:27.280 this movie like for all its fault, it still really plays. Yeah, 863 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:30.199 and the sequel doesn't play. Agreed, the sequel has pacing problems with this 864 01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:34.440 one. Yeah, does not this on, as we said earlier, like 865 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.920 a two hour flip pums along. Yeah, it's just as a light inspace. 866 01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:40.599 It's rare to get to the end of the two hour movie and think, 867 01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:45.119 wait, no, this sober Yeah. Yeah, it's one of it's 868 01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.400 one of his best editing jobs. Rodriguez cuts his own movies and like it's 869 01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:52.280 it's one of his best ones. These hearts really in it, and he 870 01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:57.679 I said, he matches the pace of those comics. Marv just going, 871 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.599 He just goes to the whole thing and you can't. So Carlo Gino gets 872 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:05.719 her hand eaten Dames, he's leting it, let it out, and they're 873 01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:08.000 just fine, which I think is a really interesting scene because it's you know, 874 01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:14.199 it shows her all stronger characters, it's just characters stupid. Yeah, 875 01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.880 I mean, look, they turned this strong character into the victim, but 876 01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:22.599 probably the genius anxiously great in this man. And she knocks out Marv. 877 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.559 She's the only one who gets one up on Mark. Yeah, she's the 878 01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:29.599 only one. She knocks him out. And then it's rinders to the cops. 879 01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.559 Yeah, as a parole officer in Basin City, I would assume that 880 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:37.000 she knows that the cops are the most corrupt thing in the universe. So 881 01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:39.760 I don't right understand her reasoning there. So, yeah, they made the 882 01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:45.440 let's Frank Miller making stupid lady character, But that's Ton Kevin. Huh. 883 01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:51.960 Let's top Kevin Kevin, Oh god, yeah, spider Man. Fucking horrifying, 884 01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:53.559 Yeah, horrifying, But that he's Spider Man. I think that's great. 885 01:03:53.639 --> 01:04:00.159 Like I think he Miller takes all these archetypes of superheroes andind of works 886 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.920 them into I'm supers. He's worked on it, kind of works them into 887 01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:09.239 there. And clearly you see that kid with the big white eyes and fly 888 01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:13.559 run around, you know, inspired by Spider Man, but just horrifying water 889 01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:18.239 performance for Alicia Wood and as an actor, definitely a palate cleanser after being 890 01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.920 Frodo for a bunch of years, you know what I mean, like level 891 01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:26.360 of prot away. You're looking a maniact too. Yeah, And he's great. 892 01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:31.199 He's spectacular in that movie. He's so scary here, particularly at the 893 01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:34.880 end when we finally to see his eyes. I mean he's got those nails. 894 01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:41.239 Yeah, Yeah, he's again, that's that whole sequence between the fight 895 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.320 between him and Maher. As far as the front of Comics don canned, 896 01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:47.800 Yeah, and you're really good. And as a as a testament for Robert 897 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:50.960 herdyguess those two fucking act dupes have never read in each other. Amazing. 898 01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.920 In fact, that there's a scene where I was watching behind the scenes stuff 899 01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.199 though, like one of the bar scenes where the characters are all exchange thing 900 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:03.400 looks all of them were there months apart, like, and they're all interacting 901 01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:06.760 with each other. He do things like rap an actor in a green screen, 902 01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.079 knowing that they were gonna they were gonna put another actor in there later, 903 01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:14.559 So who's ever on screen would have something to sit the baths off? 904 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:20.840 Yeah, man, clever movie making. But Kevin is great. Elijah Wood 905 01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:26.320 is great, and he's creepy and it's gross, but I love the montage. 906 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.159 It's literally just a frame from the comic when he's buying all the stuff 907 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:32.840 to get to go back and he's like, I got the razor wire, 908 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:39.880 the gloves and my mist It's just really good. And man, he fucks 909 01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:42.960 up Kevin. Yeah, boyd does he fuck him up? And with the 910 01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:45.840 and the wolf shows up and eats some of the but then all I know 911 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:50.000 where here dude? For fun Year's Rutger Howerd speaking of the rows seeing of 912 01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:56.519 the creepy monologue. Yeah again a situation where Rourke had filmed his scene. 913 01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:59.480 Rucker Hurri came in afterwards, was able to look at his performance and go 914 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:04.480 okay, yeah, and oh my said I tried, Oh Rutger Howell? 915 01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:09.079 Is that creepy dude? Man, it's such a good performance. Yeah, 916 01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:12.400 I'm speaking for blade Runner. Yeah, I'm speaking of a blade Runner. 917 01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:19.239 And then right into that awesome ending with the with the electric chair narrating from 918 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:24.119 the grave. Yeah, it's just so cool. What a great classic more 919 01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:30.239 trope Yeah yeah, and then all your bands. He's got make Farlane put 920 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:34.880 out a toy like it was a Marv in a electric chair. I'm so 921 01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:38.920 mad. I never got it. I have the other mare of actual figure 922 01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:42.360 holding the Kevin head, but the one on the elect chair it's pretty rare, 923 01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:45.519 it's pretty worth, it's pretty valuable. It was confirmed. How can 924 01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.000 this toy be an electric chair? And I'm like, well, yeah, 925 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:54.119 have you seen the Ric Farland toy. I used to have the freak character 926 01:06:54.239 --> 01:07:00.079 from Spawn who is this ripped looking in He basically looks like Eddie from m 927 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.920 and his hair was the real hair and was strange first side and a bag 928 01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:09.840 and but he basically had the body of Iggy Paw and he was like, 929 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:15.320 the character is an insane homeless person. Yeah, pretty yes, And here's 930 01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:18.159 an action figure. Here's an action figure. And that bringes now to the 931 01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:25.719 next sequence, the Big Bat Kill the vers in City comic I bought ah 932 01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.280 and introducing us to Dwight. Yes, who's a major player Aaron sin City 933 01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:34.000 just had plastic surgery and all looks like somebody else he is. Dwight is 934 01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:39.039 a private eye. Yeah, basically so, but the private eye in the 935 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:42.280 Sin City sense of the word. And then he basically just takes pictures of 936 01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:45.719 people, fucking yeah, and Blackmaile's people and oh, I'm not black Male's 937 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:47.159 people. But yeah, yeah, he gets that, and you get that 938 01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:51.440 more in the Dame mckill four yea, which is the prequel to the story, 939 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:58.960 because here we have name. It's Englishman extraordinaire Rough and Tumbles should have 940 01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:06.000 been bonded. Yes, Clive Owen, City have Lost Children. Believe that 941 01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:10.519 is City of Men. City of Men, City of My Children came out 942 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:12.800 when I was a kid, and that's a French movie and it's very good 943 01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:17.159 too, Yes, and Carol and Caro and that weird little guy. Yeah, 944 01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:21.439 yeah, so you're Clive going here. Recently, surgierized, yes, 945 01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:26.600 we don't know what you looffect before Josh Brolind like Josh Browler before. Yeah, 946 01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:30.239 in the nineties is the best delivery in a really big trunk. We're 947 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.720 in a big trunk. Yeah, because he's driving a red caddy. Yeah. 948 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:36.880 Movies in black and white, everybody, but pops of color here and 949 01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:42.199 there, judiciously chosen. Here, perfectly chosen because you need to see a 950 01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:45.359 catillact. It's red. Yeah, he's also got a red con Converse Chucks 951 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.960 red Converse checks, Yes, exactly, which is my preferred sere. So 952 01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:53.920 like anytime a character shows up wearing Converse, I'm stoked. Yeah. Doctor 953 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.760 who started wearing Converse when that David? Oh, Yeah, I was like, 954 01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:00.039 yeah, his poor feet. Yeah, and I feel it basically been 955 01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:02.920 like it's it's a form of footbinding. I've been wearing them since I was 956 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:06.600 a kid, so they functively grown into the shape of the convert and ruin 957 01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:11.520 for all athletic shoes. Now this is the weakest story, you think, 958 01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:15.439 Yeah, I think I don't have as much fun with this one as they 959 01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:17.960 do with the others, although I do love going to the Lebret at Tarpits. 960 01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:20.479 Yeah, it's fun. When I lived in the Los Angeles for the 961 01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:25.239 entire of the nineties. I lived just off of Wilship Boulevard and libra At 962 01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:27.840 Boulevard, which is where the tar pits are, and I went to those 963 01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:31.600 fucking tarpets every goddamn yeah, because I think it's a marvel that this prehistoric 964 01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:38.039 site is just sitting in the middle of a major American Yeah, it's fucking 965 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:42.920 cool. Yeah. So when they ended up there and with these superton dinosaurs, 966 01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.479 like, well, I like how the tar pits here are like on 967 01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:47.600 the outskirts and it's where everyone just dumps bodies. Yeah, and like, 968 01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:51.840 but in the real LA it's just in the middle of town. Man. 969 01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:55.680 It's like, yeah, it's yeah, it's on the Miracle Mile. Yeah, 970 01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:59.720 you were telling the mall we were to dump a body, there'd be 971 01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:04.279 trying. The Larat harpits does make a great appearance though, however, in 972 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:09.560 the Last Action Hero. Well, yeah they don't leol the fart in there. 973 01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:12.560 Yeah, that's it. They also show up in nineteen forty one. 974 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.960 Yeah, they some crashes into them. But the best use of the Lbret 975 01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:19.479 tarpits of all time and will be forever is Miracle Maya Steve Jarnix. Oh 976 01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:21.880 right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, where it begins in anim 977 01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:26.239 is with the tar pits in more ways than money shit. But okay, 978 01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:30.079 so here he's gonna drive, he's gotta push the red car and the like 979 01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:34.000 the bodies in there. But so Dwight is dating the waitress from the bar 980 01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:40.199 that that Nancy works at, played by by Britney Murphy, long lamented late 981 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:45.239 and lovely Britney Murphy talk about promise man, talk about careers that were she 982 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:49.039 was on the way so good that Gary, I think this is her best 983 01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:54.159 performance. But yeah, she's so cute in this and so lovable and so 984 01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:59.800 vulnerable and so tough all at once. Dude, she shows it off. 985 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.960 Unfortunately, she's character in Frank Miller connics she's not getting more than that. 986 01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.920 No, she's not given more that. She's gonna get punched by Benizan molto 987 01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:11.840 Genty Bowie on what a despicable character, but what to do just being creepy 988 01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:15.439 and good and Bill Crost being awesome here until to his most who showed up 989 01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:17.800 and said, wait, you're not putting for stotics on me? No, 990 01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:21.520 I want to look exactly like that guy. Yeah, yeah, it's a 991 01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:27.119 great it's a great bit apparently was meant for Johnny Depth. Oh really, 992 01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.479 yeah, but I had some pirate conflicts. That's funny. Yeah. I 993 01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:35.079 much rather watch Benisian Maltorial than Johnny Buddy. Yeah, great stuff. Man, 994 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.800 what a sline ball character and his little crew of jerks, like one 995 01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.760 guy walking around on a tank top. Yeah, he's they're all just the 996 01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:46.319 gross and the most gross. Yeah, I mean they're they're her, which 997 01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.560 is why she comes to my where her pop of colors, her eyes which 998 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:54.399 are that fucking blue, that blue Jesus Christ. But yeah, it's a 999 01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:58.159 great bit. And Dwight is he's just really good as white Clive Owen. 1000 01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:00.840 He's really tough. He's just very William Holdeny in it. I think, 1001 01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:04.479 wow, yeah, yeah, that's what I kind of get from him. 1002 01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:11.880 He can run. Yeah. And one the recurring theme of the light motif 1003 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:16.239 of shoving guys and toilets na news again in this and the Pop of Color. 1004 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:20.439 It's the slight bit of yeah when he coughs that did you get to 1005 01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:26.159 the when you get to old time, you do get the one female with 1006 01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:31.119 total agency. Meho, Mio doesn't seem like the prostitute. Meo is not 1007 01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:36.119 a prostitute. Mio is the baddest motherfucker in all of Since City. She 1008 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:42.920 is, She's what's great. Here's she's judiciously used in this story. Yeah, 1009 01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:45.880 when it got to the sequel where they precast her with Jamie Channis did 1010 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:53.840 a dead she was pregnant. Uh, it's it's like mio x mocking like 1011 01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:58.239 anytime they just need something to here's deadly little Miho. Here she comes comes 1012 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.560 in and just slices everybody's as a well was it? Everybody in a Seaguel 1013 01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:06.680 got recast except for Marv. Basically Dale was still there and there are a 1014 01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:10.880 few others. The Rourck villains are still there. So Paris Booth comes back. 1015 01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:14.840 Okay, it's a lot of the same faces, and it's the seguel 1016 01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:18.920 is. If you want more of Sin City, then you're gonna get it. 1017 01:13:19.119 --> 01:13:21.359 Yeah, but it's not going to be a spot. It's not. 1018 01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:26.319 It's just gonna feel like Dale old bread. I've ever seen it other than 1019 01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:29.520 the first time I watched it, and only see it the ones. That's 1020 01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:30.720 the thing. I watched it the one time too, when it came out 1021 01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:34.239 in twenty fourteen, which is, by the way, nine years after Yeah 1022 01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:39.279 City, the promise of Sin City was, here's a new form of synod, 1023 01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:43.960 right, We're gonna actually translate comics directly, and they know and they 1024 01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:46.399 never It didn't pay off. It only three hundred. I think it could 1025 01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:51.920 have paid off if he had left immediately into a signal to this and then 1026 01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.319 branched out, because there are other good stories too. There is that the 1027 01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.119 last one they did, the love story is really get to hear what it's 1028 01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:00.239 called, though, but it could have good gon a Sin City too. 1029 01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.680 He could have been at the other Frank Milton. He needed to be the 1030 01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:06.840 vanguard more than just the initial thing, because they waited nine years for the 1031 01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:11.640 sequel, and by then nobody cared. I'm not even that big a fan 1032 01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:15.239 of Battle Angel, oh that much. That was all right, It's okay, 1033 01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:19.199 says this. This Sincity made for a budget of forty million dollars, 1034 01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:24.119 taking one hundred and fifty one works the worldly it took so long to do 1035 01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:29.319 as equal the sequel took costs sixty five million. Thirty just doesn't need a 1036 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:32.880 sequal either. This is a fine film. Yeah, this is a graphic 1037 01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:38.359 novel of the movie. Yeah, I like the kind of comic Bookie looking 1038 01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:42.800 hookers doing certainly the design element of it. Oh, this is just what's 1039 01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:46.079 in the comic, and he's writing it for that comic audience, and that's 1040 01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:51.800 what there. The thing is, we are getting plenty of the female form 1041 01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.479 in the form of Nancy throughout the rest of the world. Yeah, so 1042 01:14:55.720 --> 01:15:00.560 and other care plenty of boss. So these deadly women don't need to look 1043 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:05.439 anything like like prostitutes. They can just be these things. But it's such 1044 01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:09.960 a hungerd I don't like, I mean, I don't like. There's just 1045 01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:14.119 ah, they're pretty free with punching women. They do it once, twice 1046 01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:18.239 times, like five times. It's a little much, yeah, because but 1047 01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:21.720 again it's gritty and it's being an old tiny movie. It's a gritty thing 1048 01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:25.880 to do. But then again, we have characters who're fucking cannibals in this, 1049 01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:30.319 so like the gritty is covered here from the top on that. The 1050 01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:33.199 opening scene is a man murdering a woman. Yeah, the one thing is 1051 01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:38.359 the woman. The big fact kill you do is women do get their revenge. 1052 01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:43.159 Although he spends a lot of time with Michael Clark, Duncan's minute and 1053 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:47.199 just the flesh is so exquisite to skin so soft, and he's crooking her 1054 01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:49.239 neck and all this stuff, and I'm like, looks like he's just like 1055 01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:54.680 chiropractors here, but you know, he smacks her pretty far too. But 1056 01:15:54.840 --> 01:16:00.359 the minute, yeah, the minut there's Jackie Boy gets killed. There's the 1057 01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:03.079 mob swoops in and starts trying to like muscle in because they know he's a 1058 01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:06.159 cop, and that'll be the end of the truth and all hell's gonna break 1059 01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:12.640 loose. What about this guest director quitting Tarantino thing, well, you've certainly 1060 01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:15.920 allowed to have so many money said and direct the scene. Yeah, I 1061 01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:19.479 don't know why he needs a credit either. I mean, there's plenty of 1062 01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:25.279 shots and goonies that are Steven Spielberg's. Feel like it's just marketing. Yeah, 1063 01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:28.079 that feels like Merrior mantiss. Since you're already saying fuck you to the 1064 01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:31.920 DGA, let's really say fuck you and put his name out. Yeah where, 1065 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:35.399 And I'm sure it was a situation where Tarantino was there and he was 1066 01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:39.840 like, come play with the digital equipment, No play with the green screen. 1067 01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:42.359 I know you're a film guy, but do a scene. Yeah, 1068 01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:45.319 see how on the field and it's just two guys in a car. I 1069 01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:49.000 mean, it's not like it's there's nothing set redirected about that. It's basic 1070 01:16:49.119 --> 01:16:55.279 coverage. It's just the cinematography is the best part about it. The scene 1071 01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:59.600 is great because it's a dead guy with his throat slit who keeps depending on 1072 01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.880 the at the neck, his vocal cords are stretched or not. It's that's 1073 01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:08.479 it's working. But it's not like the camera's moving in any sort of way. 1074 01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:10.680 That made me. I like the light, the way the light on 1075 01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:14.239 the black and white, the lights, it's really neat lot the primary colors. 1076 01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:17.920 But again that's Rodriguez because he's the DP of it. He's doing it 1077 01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:21.560 no matter what. But you know, marketing, Yeah, you want to 1078 01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:25.680 have the footage you can. There's the behind the scenes footage of that scene 1079 01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:30.600 being yeah, particularly and it's literally Tarantino's sitting next to Rodriguez on different cameras 1080 01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:32.279 like watching monks. Yeah. See yeah, I agree. So it's like 1081 01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:36.479 who's directing the sea? Yeah, Tarantino couldn't left and that scene would still 1082 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:40.640 would have gotten filmed. Same my thing with the Frank Miller stuff. I 1083 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:45.199 think, yeah, every piece of footage that I found of Frank Miller actually 1084 01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:47.640 directing somebody like you see him like walking up to an actreon and try this 1085 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:53.000 kind of thing. It was all from Dane to kilf I can't find any 1086 01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:57.199 footage of him actually directing the first in the city. I'm sure it's exactly 1087 01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:00.319 the same situation. He's just sitting there and going maybe this. I don't 1088 01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:04.319 know if that's you know what I mean. It wouldn't be because he wasn't 1089 01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:10.760 having conversations with the fucking lighting gap, because the guess he's all right, 1090 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:15.239 but he's The spirit is terrible. So is robo Cops three. Yes, 1091 01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:18.600 Grow Grow three is terrible and robo Cop two an't that great? No, 1092 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:21.960 it's some stuff. It has good stuff. It has tom Noonan in it. 1093 01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:27.720 Yeah, I just got yeah. And a kid does a criminal mask 1094 01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:30.560 which is a great Channeyeah. No, that's not Jonathan Brand as it was 1095 01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:36.840 ever made. Who cares? The end is fun. The special effects are 1096 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:42.000 the weakest. In that last bit is a shot when it pulls away from 1097 01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:45.680 the hooper the armed prostitute on the roof, and it pulls back, it 1098 01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:51.520 gets wonky. The effects the c and the shots of the prostitutes on the 1099 01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:58.760 roof do look really. No, it feels like it feels like an eighties 1100 01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:01.000 music video. Yeah, it kind this is a little bit. The twist 1101 01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:03.039 is great. I mean, I know from a comic, but it's still 1102 01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:06.560 a great twist. But he's got the grenade and the yeah, and it's 1103 01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:13.199 a play on the thermipley because they're in the gates. But that Yeah, 1104 01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:17.760 he's definitely working that theme. I think I do love Rosario Dawson's performance. 1105 01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:21.520 So she's great and she chews up every single one of those lines. What 1106 01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:27.279 you need to be doing. Yeah, although Clive Owen makes a dainty email 1107 01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:32.119 of his yeah, they understand the assignment and Doltro too, but this is 1108 01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:36.840 a delicious sandwich. And again, Brittany Morphite look like Peggy a little take 1109 01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:40.880 it left. Oh what a shame she never get to play Harley, because 1110 01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:44.880 wow, yeah I got I'm born to do it right. Yeah, simply 1111 01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:48.199 like she would have been a sympathetic Harley, like you would have enjoyed her 1112 01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:54.600 craziness, but she also would have felt bad because those eyes are hers are 1113 01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:57.720 They're just the most beautiful eyes you've ever seen on a white girl. Let 1114 01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.880 me tell you, She's what a shame in a heartbreak that is, she 1115 01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.399 didn't have to die. I think she's murdered. But that'shod me. Well 1116 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:08.199 there's an entire Yeah, there's a whole Yeah, there's a whole thing. 1117 01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:11.439 And like her husband, I have the exact same thing. I don't know 1118 01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:16.359 usual, Yeah, sounds like something happening in the abasement City kit. And 1119 01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:19.920 now that brings us that they have the big fat kill and but it's pretty 1120 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:26.159 pretty dynamic. Alexis Pladella's overturned them to the mob. She's so obnoxious in 1121 01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:30.159 this movie. She really is, and the performance because she's obnoxious, but 1122 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.720 she's obnoxious. Michael Clark duck. It was great golden eye. Yeah, 1123 01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:38.159 there's big golden eye. Yeah, he's good. He has great delivery. 1124 01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:43.159 And that what's with that one guy with the Nazis with the swastika tattoo on 1125 01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:46.319 his head, He's just like really casual about being evil. Hey, this 1126 01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:51.319 is great. Then they got shot, said Nikki, can't I think yeah? 1127 01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:55.520 I think so maybe, But I do like the bullet to the one 1128 01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:00.399 of the one of the gooms is also a nick offer nick offered and he's 1129 01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.720 got like bondage pier on. Wow, how about that? Crazy? Right? 1130 01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:11.600 Pre Parks. But then Dwight's voiceover is really good. He does a 1131 01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:16.479 really good job. His voiceover is the best supurs the writing goes without it 1132 01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:21.640 sort of falling too much into the no wir ye me, oh me, 1133 01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:29.279 oh your god, Jesus Elvis, it's really he did so he delivers that 1134 01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:32.920 line really well. Yeah. I like that. But the most satisfying one 1135 01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:39.560 is the end here with that Yellow Bastard coming back and Hartigan's alive, thank 1136 01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:45.399 god. Man he dined in the opening, right, and boy, it's 1137 01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:50.279 really just a neat. That Yellow Bastard was my favorite comic. I think 1138 01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:54.359 it might have been my favorite. I really just enjoyed the ship out of 1139 01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:59.640 that because it's the ending is satisfying. It's a really satisfying end, and 1140 01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:04.960 that Yellow Bastard is such a great villain. A break design translate here by 1141 01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:09.640 Greg Nicotia. Yeah, looking, and he's based on the Yellow Kid, 1142 01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:14.399 which is the first comic book character, so to speak, the first cartoon, 1143 01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:17.520 modern cartoon character, newspaper character and character. And it was just this 1144 01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:21.319 little yellow boy in kind of a dress and like he had got into mischief. 1145 01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:26.479 But yeah, he's a yellow kid. Yeah, and they that Yellow 1146 01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:29.640 Bastard is evocative of that. But again you think it was like in his 1147 01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:32.960 years, Frank brother like so yellow bas yeah, probably, and the way 1148 01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:38.159 Frank Miller talks, I'm sure that's what it is. But the stories like 1149 01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:43.319 just though there's like male nudity in the comic too. So when Hartigan's hanging 1150 01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:46.560 from yeah, that's his dogs hang on and that's all cleverly hitten in shadow 1151 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.079 and that yellow Bastard is naked at the end, and here he's going his 1152 01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:54.720 boxes and man, I wish they would have got all he gotten all the 1153 01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:56.920 way because it was like a weird look like a duct dick or something. 1154 01:22:56.960 --> 01:23:00.720 It was really weird looking. And because now that might actually be the case 1155 01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:03.840 that let's we're sucking up the sensors enough. Yeah, but that comes, 1156 01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:08.960 but it shows what all the surgery that we went through. His powers Booth 1157 01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.479 shows up and he's we're going to do this to you for the powers. 1158 01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:16.760 Booth is so good with those weirdo eyes eyes golden, Yeah, very freaky. 1159 01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:19.359 I do nothing like it. Yeah, but you know, as much 1160 01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:23.439 of color as Mijo's earlier had a little bit of blue on it. But 1161 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:28.560 it's great when he gets out and all this stuff. He doesn't kill his 1162 01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:30.960 partner though, Bob picks him up, and he doesn't kill him. Yeah, 1163 01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.039 killed him. He did shoot a lot of balls in him. Yeah, 1164 01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:40.520 open exactly trying to kill the little girl who he's still trying to pretend. 1165 01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:42.880 Yeah, and he's fur the great line. He's like, man, 1166 01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:47.159 now you're scaring a little girl. So he but his performance is very paternal, 1167 01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:53.680 and that's Rodriguez's input, I think coming through Rodriguez, who has seventy 1168 01:23:53.720 --> 01:24:00.279 eight kids. Yeah, and a few of them are and he's I think 1169 01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:01.680 the dad, and he made a bunch of kids movies, the dad in 1170 01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:04.960 whom I think kept him from AND's got a bunch of kids too, Like 1171 01:24:05.079 --> 01:24:10.399 I think the dad's kept it from being creepy. How about that Robert Erdrin 1172 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:14.640 is the only modern film and went out and made a bunch of children's original 1173 01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:17.239 children, Yeah, specifically for kids to go see because there was nothing out 1174 01:24:17.279 --> 01:24:20.680 there like it. And in that case, there was actually a pretty good 1175 01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:25.359 market of children's entertainment. You look at this field now, what is going 1176 01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:29.520 on? But no other filmmaker decided that I'm gonna take a few years to 1177 01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.439 do this kind of the same. Hey, Soderbergh do that. Yeah, 1178 01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:35.119 Soderberg has made a lot of movies, but he hasn't made no kids movies. 1179 01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:38.840 Why not? Yeah, and then he goes to the bar. I 1180 01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:41.399 always like to have the bar. The lighting in the bar was color was 1181 01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:44.720 kind of cool. Yeah, is Wolverine in there. Wolverine's in the bar 1182 01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:48.399 in the comics, I think, yeah, he's no background. But again, 1183 01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.880 when she just shows up and kisses him, that's wow, that's some 1184 01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:58.079 wishful filming on Miller side. It's weird. Yeah, it's very weird because 1185 01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:00.960 I just don't see a little girl. I don't I've never been a little 1186 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.239 girl, but I can't imagine a little girl. I mean that kind of 1187 01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:08.680 feeling towards him. Well, Nancy has made some choices in the list, 1188 01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:12.159 She has made some choices still in city. Yeah, they didn't keep her 1189 01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:15.600 her daddy didn't keep her off the pole. Nope. He might have written 1190 01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:18.520 one letter back to her stop scaring. Yeah, they never got them. 1191 01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:21.520 I mean, more power to sex sport. There's not I don't care about 1192 01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:24.640 any of that. You know. What I want to give a shout out 1193 01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:28.600 to is the actor beating up Bruce Willis when he's tied to a chair. 1194 01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:35.279 Oh he's great. Ye I love that guy with his white shoulder hair and 1195 01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:40.039 that gun. There's an old man to beat Paul Man. What a fucking 1196 01:25:40.119 --> 01:25:45.359 great performance. That guy like some asshole cop who's dirty and you can just 1197 01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:48.800 see it all. So whoever that dude is, bravo to you for this 1198 01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:53.640 great performance. Well you look at that. You're never gonna have a goy 1199 01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:58.640 like Hurley getting Oh, come on, like it's just making a mean a 1200 01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:03.399 out of it. Yeah, it's great. But just Hartigan's rampage is great. 1201 01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:09.640 And that yellow bastard man again, it's just a great performance, amazing 1202 01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:14.800 makeup, just a disgusting person in the way he describes how he smells. 1203 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:19.399 Oh yeah, the bloody even worse. What's funny is the design of the 1204 01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:24.880 yellow Bastard kept me from reading Sin City for because I was so used to 1205 01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:28.720 Miller's for a test characters. I was like, I can't, I'm gonna, 1206 01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:30.920 I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna pass them if this is what it's gonna 1207 01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:35.079 be. Because before I signed and I saw that image of that character and 1208 01:26:35.159 --> 01:26:39.359 went, no, I'm good, No, it's good though. Oh seems 1209 01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:42.960 great. Yeah, fool for weight. Yeah, it's a great villain man. 1210 01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:46.439 Anyway, wrops his fucking balls off again. Yes, he shot him 1211 01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:49.039 off the first time. They fix him anyways, Well that was part of 1212 01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:51.399 the surgeon. Yeah, he went there. What I love is that this 1213 01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:56.239 and this is maybe more of a sequel thing, but powers Booth has portrait 1214 01:26:56.520 --> 01:27:00.319 of his son hanging on the thing. But it's the yellow bastard very it's 1215 01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:06.840 not there. It's Neude's and stuff like that. That's my son. Powers 1216 01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:12.920 Booth is just so oily. It's good. Yeah, he's just with all 1217 01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:15.720 you know what you think of power I think of him his appearance in Red 1218 01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:19.000 dawns. Oh, they're all out there on their own, and then he 1219 01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:24.680 shows up and suddenly feeling everything's gonna be okay. Our Booths he's sent in 1220 01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:28.439 good like they have a chance now, and then take him away. I 1221 01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:31.800 just hope his I just hope his parents he thanked his parents for giving him 1222 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:36.720 that awesome name. It's just what there's all these stories are as it turns 1223 01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:41.199 out, they're all about the downfalls of Roart family. It's all about their 1224 01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:45.920 members and their family being murdered or being murdered basically won by one. Yeah, 1225 01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:49.119 basically because in in Sin City we get the Rector Howard character, who's 1226 01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.840 a lark, Yeah, and we get Nick Stahl, who's a roar. 1227 01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:57.399 Yeah. And in the sequel it's all about Nancy killing powers Booth. Yeah. 1228 01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:00.359 Yeah. They loom large in the comics for sure. I just like 1229 01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:04.439 the fact that one of the villains is a cardinal. That's cool. That's 1230 01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:08.159 Frank Millan went to Catholic school, I can tell you right now. But 1231 01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:11.359 just based on that one, oh yeah, only some Catholic kids gonna come 1232 01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:14.239 up with that. Well, I mean the Daredevil is that darleble One is 1233 01:28:14.279 --> 01:28:17.319 the most Catholic comic book giver read absolutely all of the guilds, all in 1234 01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:20.880 all of the weird sort of finishy stuff. Yeah, that's all. That's 1235 01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:25.560 all as well, trust me, I know twelve years of that schooling. 1236 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:28.439 I was an altar boy me as well. I was not an ultim weather 1237 01:28:29.479 --> 01:28:33.119 school from pre kindergarten through high school. Oh wow, I think I got 1238 01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:35.920 there in the second grade, so eleven years and then all the way through. 1239 01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:41.000 But I was an altar boy. My mom got me on the altar 1240 01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:44.800 boy team early. I was like Kobe getting drafted out of high school. 1241 01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:47.159 All my friends were altered boys, and they were the most degenerate characters I 1242 01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:50.159 ever met. They gave us money every week too. At the end, 1243 01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:54.800 right out of the basket. All right, I was about to still know 1244 01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:56.920 Catholic sir. Now we're not going into that. All right, Let's let's 1245 01:28:56.920 --> 01:29:00.359 get out of it somehow. How does this end? Well, this with 1246 01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.920 Alexis Bedell's well, no, I mean it ends with her and making sacrifices. 1247 01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:05.800 Yeah, yeah, no, no, Yeah, I'm sorry I jumped 1248 01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:10.840 ahead. Ye know. It ends with Hartigan realizing that they're Yeah, he 1249 01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:15.840 saved the day, he saved Nancy from that yellow bastard. But that yellow 1250 01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:18.520 Bastard's dad's still alive, and he's gonna come after her. He's gonna come 1251 01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:23.359 after him. He's gotta make the only choice he feels he can make, 1252 01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:26.920 which is the blow his brains out, which is done in the reverse silhouette 1253 01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:29.680 and the white. It's beautiful, yea, it's gorgeous. I don't know 1254 01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:31.680 if he needed to do that, they could have moved to Knatson City. 1255 01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:36.439 Yeah, the her influence isn't okay in New York, as well, yeah, 1256 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:41.880 he could have got go down to Shanghai. Come on, guys, 1257 01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:45.039 I'm sure there are plenty places where a sixty year old man and a nineteen 1258 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:48.439 year old girl could go live out their lives together. But that's still just 1259 01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:54.239 Homby Hills, right, I don't think that was That's Frank Miller though he 1260 01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:59.000 likes that that. Yeah, oh wow, he's a weird dude. So 1261 01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:02.680 now Elesius Banella fucked over all the girls and grow in old town. Yeah, 1262 01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:06.359 but thank god, we have a fucking hayonic element from the opening to 1263 01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:11.880 come back. Great. Yeah, the officer a cigarette and she just he's 1264 01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:15.039 like, okay, mom by he knows she knows what he calls her by 1265 01:30:15.159 --> 01:30:18.359 name. Yeah, he calls her by name. That's right. No apparents 1266 01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:23.560 of Josh hartn And in the sequel, no huh or the drive. But 1267 01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:28.880 I'm without pity. I'm now very interested in cutting together a version of Sin 1268 01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:31.680 City that's the ultimate version of it. Folds again from the best kits of 1269 01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:36.439 Yeah. Oh, it's too bad that Michael Clark duncan he's not in the 1270 01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:41.279 sequel. Probly Donald, Yeah, he passed away to you. Dennis Haysbert, 1271 01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:44.079 He's great. Yeah, he's a great actor, man. Yeah, 1272 01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:47.039 And we get pre golden eye renude in that one. We get to see 1273 01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:51.399 the eye which has a great line, which is Mark rips out the eyeball 1274 01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:56.000 and then kind of feels it and says, I haven't feel this in a 1275 01:30:56.079 --> 01:31:00.479 few days. Does Clive Bowen show up in the sequel after the plast I 1276 01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:04.119 was hoping that the bandages will come up and it'll be climb on, but 1277 01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:11.680 they tried. They did prosthetics on Josh Roland to make him look like five 1278 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:15.720 VOT and it's super weird. Yeah, because you remember're not liking that sequel 1279 01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:17.800 at all. I'm so I can't watch it any more of this and it's 1280 01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:25.800 really what's annoying is like after the surgery he shows up and then minud character 1281 01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:29.319 recognizes him instantly, and so it was all for nothing, really, right, 1282 01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:31.199 Yeah, you know something about the eyes. I can tell it's you. 1283 01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:35.439 Let's go. Well, she was left it alone. It was fine 1284 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:39.560 as it was, I guess because Sin City, for all its flaws, 1285 01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:44.479 for all its weird sexual politics, for all its yeah, weird sexual politics. 1286 01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:45.199 That's the way. That's a good way to put it, because it 1287 01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:49.399 is weird, and if you're like some gen z or kid or something, 1288 01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:53.359 you're gonna watch it and go this boy, he's very problematic. Yeah, 1289 01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:56.079 I know, I get it, but it's still well crafted and it's designed 1290 01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:59.119 to be problems. It's supposed to be, like, you know, an 1291 01:31:59.199 --> 01:32:03.479 ode to the fifties. Yeah, the fifties hardil detective stuff. So I 1292 01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:06.279 got to forgive all of that. It's a piece of artwork. As far 1293 01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:10.680 as I fell. It brings more to the table than we brought to it. 1294 01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:14.279 And I mean, I'm sure you've seen it if you're listening to this, 1295 01:32:14.800 --> 01:32:16.239 but if you haven't, fucking a man, go watch it immediately. 1296 01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:21.560 But watch do not watch the stories by themselves in the now. It loses. 1297 01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:26.760 It loses the idea that this is a universe and they all kind of 1298 01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:30.079 like coexist with one another and stuff. And comic book stories work great in 1299 01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:33.920 like single issues. That's fine, but this was a movie, and it 1300 01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:36.600 needs to be a movie. This is a graphic novel. Yeah, all 1301 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:40.880 of the characters playing off each other, all the stories bumping into each other 1302 01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:44.000 and coming back, and like I said, the best story in it is 1303 01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:47.880 that Yellow Bastard. But it's split into two halves and it works like Gangbusters. 1304 01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:51.640 But if you watch it, it's just one story with no payoff. 1305 01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:56.600 Really, it's who sacrifices on top of each other? Who cares? We 1306 01:32:56.720 --> 01:33:00.720 don't feel the length of time between those. Yeah, that book really sells 1307 01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:02.720 the whole thing to the way booking in with the hardig and stuff. Yeah, 1308 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:06.560 So go see Since City if you haven't. Yeah, it's pretty cool, 1309 01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:09.319 man. You can find it. And I don't think it's like a 1310 01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:12.960 Pluto or something like that. So it's free to watch on TV. But 1311 01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:15.960 find yourself a copy without commercials to yourself. Favorite. It's a great movie. 1312 01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:18.399 Man. I'm not gonna bring up what we care. I was just 1313 01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:21.000 gonna do that. No, I don't even want to talk about it because 1314 01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:24.880 fucking beating a dead horse. Yeah, and he's the worst comic book ever 1315 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:28.239 made. Man, even he is I was a drunk, fucking he was 1316 01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:30.279 a drunk, angry man and it's super racist and it's a shameful book and 1317 01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:34.479 I'm glad that sucks. Oh yeah, it's like the worst comic book I 1318 01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:38.720 ever. Don't ever read it to even consider that he wanted to make Batman 1319 01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:42.600 that Oh God, thank god, DC had better angels working for them. 1320 01:33:42.840 --> 01:33:46.840 Yeah. Anyway, go finds in City Comics there amazing, absolutely, Yeah, 1321 01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:50.199 any of his comics, Like, he's a fucking fantastic writer. Yeah 1322 01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:54.119 he had what really was We all look at that art work from Dark Returns 1323 01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:57.800 and whatever. Yeah, it's great. Whatever the writing is what character Miller 1324 01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:03.119 through it? Away from Dark Knight Returns to stay away from Holy Strikes again. 1325 01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:06.560 Yeah, that's awful, but again he was an angry drunk at the 1326 01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:10.119 time. Yeah, that's his take on justice. But three hundred is a 1327 01:34:10.159 --> 01:34:14.479 great comic book too. Man, it's gorgeous, wrote in his gorgeous and 1328 01:34:14.680 --> 01:34:17.399 the stuff that he didn't draw, Give me Liberty, Get the Liberty is 1329 01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:20.840 a fantastic comic book. Lens still on my ooh, I could adapt that 1330 01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:28.159 list absolutely. So thank you all for joining us here on midnight Viewing and 1331 01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:34.039 a tech untilio until our next performance and until our next program. Where to 1332 01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:38.479 find you if you're looking for you how You can catch my movie Space Detective 1333 01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:43.880 right now for limited time at Space detectivemovie dot com and visit some of my 1334 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:46.520 other stuff at Swamp Media. 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