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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life presented by
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and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey Live back
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Nunio from EP ringside. Victor,
how you doing today? I'm doing awesome,

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Jesse. Yeah, definitely been fun
to continuing to watch the games and

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see all those stats pile up on
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Jesse. I'm doing good. I'm
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through lineups. By the time people
are listening to this, I'll be setting

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basketball lineups in addition to football lineups
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over twenty total lineups that I'm setting
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The spare thought. Spare thought for
me. But anyway, that's the life

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I choose to live. Victor,
I don't know, man, I don't

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know, man. How are things
in in Cali? Is Is it fall

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yet? That's it's the weather check. That's that's my go to. On

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our introduction on our opening banch Or
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the weather. It was insanely hot
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to happen in October. They we
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then also it'll shift and that's what
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which is nice because you know,
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Halloween and all that, so we
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doesn't make sense for it to be
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and it's like close to Thanksgiving and
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we're getting in line with the rest
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than some places, which is nice. Victor. Let me tell you where

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it's been getting hot, but it's
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very good. It's once again going
to be a segment show. Victor and

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I off to our respective corners to
interview our respective guests. We'll be right

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back right after this. Get admired, Welcome be to the show. Our

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guy from Short shifts over in the
Keeping Carlson Network, but he is a

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loyal fan of us certicipant over here
in Fantasy Hockey Life as well. Jeremy

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Brisillo, how'd been doing there today, Jeremy, I'm doing great. I'm

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excited to be on the show.
I do love Keeping Carlson, but I

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also love Fantasy Hockey Life for all
of my Dynasty needs. I don't think

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there's another podcast in any fantasy sport
really that goes as deep and as awesome

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as FHL does. Wow. Wow, it's not a competition. We're all

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buddies out here, but appreciate the
kind words. But yeah, man,

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you are not only a listener,
you are also beating the absolute tar out

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of me right now in the original
FHL Dynasty League six fifty nine to five

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point forty five, coming into the
last day of a two week match of

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Jeremy, why shouldn't I kick you
off the show right now? For doing

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that to me? I think that
if my Dynasty team's doing well, it

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must mean I know something. But
maybe I just got lucky this week.

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No, that was never in doubt. You know something. I think I

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can confirm that. In fact,
I think looking through the league. I

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don't feel bad because you are beating
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eighteen or sixteen teams, not as
part of our matchup. So I think

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it's fair enough to say that something. Let's know something today about some guys

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who are trying to get their selves
established in the National Hockey League. We're

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not necessarily hitting it at exactly one
hundred GAMER or two hundred GAMER, but

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we are talking about some guys who
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one hundred and two hundred games.
And these are guys who we have interest

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in and we want to talk through. And we both had some takes on

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and I see that the first one
is a guy I saw playing for the

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Red Wings yesterday. I think he
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other team, but it is Lucas
Raymond. Tell me, Jeremy about your

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hopes for Lucas Raymond. So last
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Raymond looked well on his way to
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first forty one games, but slumped
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year, he started off shooting well
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He's on the younger side for a
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one. He'll be twenty two in
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thing he's just got to do is
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shots per game for his first one
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going to cut it for a fantasy
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to that two and a half to
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think he can be a really solid
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point upside, a lot of goals, a lot of playmaking skill, and

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as we've seen this year, the
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are just going to get better.
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far this year. I think,
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lost to Ottawa pretty badly, no, and they beat Outawa pretty badly yesterday,

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and so that's a good sign.
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on the make over there in the
Atlantic divisions. I like that Raymond was

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a guy who faded a little bit
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Brinket coming over there and everything,
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guy who's going to maybe be able
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it's not a sure thing. So
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was going to talk about. Came
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reputation, but the Wingers slash center
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He's got ninety eight points in one
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have been on the ice more than
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Mercer has been in the league.
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and his two point one to one
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above even Dougie Hamilton over that time
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ninety eight points in one hundred and
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the minutes that the other guys are. It's just about the pace. He

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played with Hesher and Meyer for a
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but now it was Holtz on Saturday
because he's here was out. I can't

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really say he's lost the gig in
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figure it out and get themselves going
for this year, Jack Hughes just laid

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waste on Friday as well, and
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didn't get to be in on that. As I look at the heat map

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for the season so far this year
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doing very well. They're way below
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they've been way above league average offense. Expected goals per sixty has been two

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point eighty five in the past this
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just off field. Cold start is
the point He's still in the mix at

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the top of that roster that makes
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have to choose relevant or irrelevant,
I believe he's going to be a startuble

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fantasy player, even if he is
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I think he's definitely not somebody you
want to lose track of. What do

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you think Jeremy Dawson Mercer. Is
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team? I think Dawson Mercer is
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may not be as relevant in fantasy. First of all, he's a natural

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center and the Devils already have too
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just he does everything so well that
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deployed in the best offensive situations,
as we've seen a little bit of this

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year, trying to anchor a third
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on, next up, it looks
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Barrett Hayton. Tell us about Barrett
Hayton and how he's doing at this point

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in his career, Jeremy. Barrett
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last year that I didn't hear a
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final thirty nine games of his season, his time on ice jumped by four

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minutes and he put up a twenty
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PowerPoint play point two hundred and eight
shot pace. On top of some solid

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Banger stats through four games this year, which I believe does not count last

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night if they played last night,
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playing nineteen and a half minutes a
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playing on the first power play.
He doesn't have a hit yet, which

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is odd. I'd expect eighty two
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him. The big concern with Hayten
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is going to be the top line
center there. But remember that Hayden was

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also a top five pick in his
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of upside here. I see point
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line two power play too. If
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hockey Viz. He does have a
positive impact on the team already, and

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Arizona's got a lot of prospects and
it's going to keep building up behind him.

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Yeah, for sure, Hayton is
a guy who we need to maintain

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interest in. It's going to take
a long cold simmer in the desert before

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maybe he will break out. So
I like that one. Rasmus Sanden a

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defenseman down there for my Washington Capitals. He made it into town just in

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time for the whole team to just
collapse around him. The Caps are rough

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this season, and last year after
joining the team, he scored fifteen points

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in nineteen games for a team in
tanking disarray. The Caps aren't getting much

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of any power play production as of
this recording. Now we should say I

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should set this up and say we
are recording this about a week before it's

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being released, so hopefully nothing dramatic
happens between now and then. But nonetheless

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we're talking about the starts, but
we're talking about the long term. Think

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about these guys and Rasmus Sandein four
blocks, three shots, no points over

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his first three games. Here's the
deal. Rasmus Sandein is plenty talented.

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I wouldn't be surprised for him to
produce better in terms of fantasy value than

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Demitri orlof you ever did, not
to say he's a better real life That

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was quite good, but it's wonderful
if he gets three more minutes of ice

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time with the Caps than he did
with the Leafs. That's what's happened since

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he came over in trade, and
he's playing with John Carlson. That's real

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good. You want to be on
the ice with John Carlson. Assuming that

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old Johnny C comes back, he
hasn't been his same self since that horrific

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injury he had last year. The
danger to me is that Rasmus Sandan ends

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up being that defense tweener who kills
us. Not enough bash to be a

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banger, not enough power play to
be a score because he's stuck behind John

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Carlson. So a lot is going
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hold the power play role or to
click with Johnny at even strength to the

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point that he's picking up a lot
of secondary assists, or otherwise be involved

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in scoring just for the volume of
scoring on ice. But with the Capitals

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in the state that they are right
now, I'm pessimistic Sandan may be a

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guy who is able to be there
for the next somewhat competitive Capitals team.

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He could maybe help bridge that gap, because I think he's quite good and

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probably will be worth rostering, but
near the bottom of your roster, I

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would say, in the near term, how about you, Jeremy are you

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You've mentioned John Carlson a couple of
times. I want to clarify for the

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listeners that Rasmus Sandin's red hot pace
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while he was on Powerplay one replacing
John Carlson for that horrific facial injury he

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sustained. I think Sandan will eventually
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thirty three, san Den's twenty three, twenty four something like that. He's

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got a lot of talent, and
I think you said a tweener was a

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potential outcome. I see less of
a tweener and more of a points only

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guy, like a Tory Kruge maybe, or what we want Caylin Addison to

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be there you go, But that
really only is going to come around,

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especially with this Caps team. It's
only going to come around once he replaces

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John Carlson. I don't know,
Maybe the Cap s ends up in a

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spot where they trade John Carlson in
the next couple of years. They're really

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a team built around getting over chicken
that goals record, and I don't think

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they have much of a path to
playoffs, and their prospect pool is pretty

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weak. I don't really see anyone
in the Caps prospect pool who would make

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a better power play quarterback than Sandein. Maybe Cameron Allen, who they drafted

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this year but he's probably four to
five years out, or Ryan Chesley from

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the US development program. But again, those guys are really young and kind

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of fifty to fifty shots I think
to stick in the NHL as power play

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one quarterbacks, so path is clear. He could end up five years from

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now as fifty to sixty point power
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Ekman, Larsen Klein, Addison,
Tory Krue. I guess those aren't bad

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teams. But he's not going to
be a guy you're drafting in the first

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five rounds. Ever, I don't
think yeah, I would totally agree with

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that. I think that's a very
reasonable take. And he's gonna start getting

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expensive here. He's got one more
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in restricted free agency. They're going
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him around. Carlson's still got three
more years left, and believe it or

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not, Nick Jensen, Trevor rand
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contract for the next three years as
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on guys who but mind you,
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left, so there's better place for
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are going to talk about a guy
who, unfortunately, I think between the

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time we selected who we were going
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recording has incurred a bit of a
tough time, and that is gave Vallardi

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up in Winnipeg tell us about mister
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my entire speel on Valardi because of
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he started with some fantastic deployment and
pretty high hopes even free draft leagues,

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I saw him getting drafted in the
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places. Fallerti is a twenty four
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Winnipeg this past year. Last year
in LA, he had some pretty good

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numbers and was playing on the top
line in Winnipeg. The problem is he's

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missed a lot of time in the
past due to injury and obviously not looking

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good with another injury here, so
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Also, the isolated numbers aren't really
standing out on hockey viz. He

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seems to be about a neutral impact
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impact in the defensive zone. So
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line in Winnipeg. Personally, maybe
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but he's twenty four. I don't
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he is. I don't think he's
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see that two hundred game breakout.
He's at two hundred games because he missed

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so many due to injury. If
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three hundred three to fifty by now. Yeah, totally. That has been

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the rap on Valardes since day one, is the injuries. Just keep him

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out there, and even up in
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not help with that problem for him. Next up, talking Cole Cylinger.

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I had so much hope for Cole
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senor at least a start to his
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I watched the CBJS the other day
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I was like, Oh, shoot, Cole Cylinger's plan. I forgot

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about him and he used to be
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ran the shots on goal that This
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that I enjoy looking at the shots
and goal on offense and the suppression of

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shots and goal on defense, and
Cylinger is like all the way at the

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bad end of the chart. He's
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end of the rainbow in this thing. I know it's difficult to describe a

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chart. A visual chart went on
the air, but trust me, in

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terms of the shots when he is
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not going well for mister Cillinger.
He's going to low line up and it

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worried me. I saw him in
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in a fight and I was like, oh, great, fourth line center,

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and now he's in a fight.
I think I see where this thing's

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going, and I don't like it. I don't see how he climbs up

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the lineup because Columbus Sneaky has a
decent amount of talented players and more that

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they need to get into the top
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think two assists. Actually I think
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recording this. But basically, he's
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I'm holding him, in fact,
i'm holding him right now in a

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cap league because he's still they're cheap
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along. But I'm getting more and
more pessimistic that this guy's going to live

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up to what we hope for any
Cole Cyllinger takes Jeremy, I was with

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you. I was so high on
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him bumped way up my ranks,
especially for fantasy, because he was billed

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as an NHL ready forward who was
going to hit a lot. He's just

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stagnated, though. But you mentioned
the rainbow chart that you have from Hockey

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Viz. Some of the names that
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Corallly, Foodie Robinson, and then
he's a little bit further away from like

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Jack Roslovic. But there's no upside
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Sorry, yeah, for sure.
And by the way, Justin dan Forth

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way up there. But he's getting
to play with some cool players lately.

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All right, mixed up for you, sir. We've got a guy who

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moved out to the west coast of
from Nashville last year and he's doing pretty

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well from himself. Who is that
Dailey tauvenin the steal of a waiver claim

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for my hometown Kraken. He's honestly
in a mold that Seattle has so many

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players like I feel like it's just
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who shoots really well and is just
a second third line guy. But let's

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take into of the stats. Despite
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last year were really strong at five
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six Fenwick four percent and a fifty
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good for top five on the Kraken, who worked known as a five v

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five juggernaut. Last year. The
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but I think that's more because the
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role as the energy line, similar
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they didn't necessarily get the scoring deployment
or the good matchups Tolvin. It also

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gets powerplay deploytment. I forget if
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right now, or should I say
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I think he's got thirty thirty upside. He shoots really well. At

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one point he was the triggerman on
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those one timer passes to shoot.
I just worry that Seattle has a lot

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of players that can play that power
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They got rid of Daniel Sprong because
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It's the same type of player that
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this year, who is pretty similar, and even Oliver b. York Strands

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has been doing that sort of thing
for the team. So I think he's

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got to differentiate himself. The good
news is he's on the younger side,

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so yeah, maybe the new life
and new energy allows him to blossom into

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a true top line or second line
player. Yeah, I like it.

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Yeah, the age is the hope
for this guy, right because there are

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a lot of guys up in the
lineup that he's got to compete with for

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those minutes. But Seattle's been rough
times, although I saw Tolbinen got an

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assist against the Rangers last night and
the one goal that Seattle scored and Peyton

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Crabs is the last one of them
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Jeremy one hundred and thirty nine games, forty nine points. None of

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those have come in the first four
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the first four games, and he's
playing with the cool kids out there,

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John Jason, Peterca and Victor Olifson. Victor is not that cool anymore.

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He used to be, but he's
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he does have some scoring upside,
so you would think maybe there would be

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some more positive production at this point, but there is not necessarily. I

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guess if you were going to take
the hopeful take on Peyton Krebs, you

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could say we had to wait a
while for Dylan Cousins and Casey middles that,

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so why not Crabs? But he
came over like Alex Duck did from

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Vegas. He is actually he's had
plenty of time to be able to break

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into this and I just feel like
with all the talented forwards that Buffalo has

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coming in, Krebs is not going
to get those opportunities. He's going to

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be relied on more as a lower
line player. I don't know, man,

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do you see any more for Peyton
Krebs than hopefully a little more than

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what we're getting right now? But
do you ever see this guy breaking out

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of forty point at his peak?
If he does, I think it's as

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a third liner, just one of
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up maybe fifty to fifty five points
with power play two time. Buffalo's just

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got an embarrassment of riches at this
point. I am extremely jealous of their

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prospect pool and their young talent.
They're such a fun team to watch.

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But you've got even a what's face
Jack Quinn also coming back. So I

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think Quinn will easily slide into the
lineup ahead of Krebs, and I'm not

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even sure there's room in the top
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So now I think you're talking about
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their players get too expensive and they
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That seems like an unlikely scenario.
Crabs. Yeah, because there's just

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too many guys coming by. And
look, some of those guys may be

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extremely hot, they may not be
by the time we'll get there, but

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regardless, they are going to get
their chances, and presumably one or two

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of them are going to pop.
Now we're headed out to Philadelphia and you

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have a couple of guys that you
want to talk about. Who are how

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are they? Jeremy, I'm talking
about Morgan Frost and Owen Tippett. I

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wanted to do a little two for
one here, because they played on the

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same line most of last year if
I remember correctly, and they're both about

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the tippets. A volume shooting winger
with a bit of a feisty side.

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Morgan Frost is a more of a
playmaking center, but also uses his body

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pretty well. I was actually I
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center, and he actually has about
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I do think, though, that
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in Philadelphia. He has spent some
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I believe he's been scratched two of
their games already this season, and his

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shooting impact is completely negative. It's
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offensively and defensively. I also,
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him as a prospect coming up,
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He's not the type of person who's
going to run through a wall for the

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sake of running through a wall,
which is the type of player that Tortorella

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likes. The Brandon Dubinski's, the
Boone Jenners. So I think Frost is

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a change of scenery hopeful. I
think he's got some talent. I think

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he could be a second line center
on a team, but I just don't

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think it will happen in Philadelphia.
Tip It, on the other hand,

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I'm extremely excited for He's got more
like the crashed and that power forward winger

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type. I've liked him since his
days in the Florida system. His shots

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a great ask on the power play. He's got that always on motor.

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I'm not sure if he'll end up
as a top liner, but I definitely

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think he could be a second line
power play one guy score a bunch of

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goals because he shoots anything that moves. Yes, I'm in on tipp It

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and out on Frost. That's fair. And Tippitt really has been revelations since

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he came over from Florida, so
I like that one. He's a man

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on the up. He's the kind
of guy we might have talked about on

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something like this a year ago and
been like, uh, tip It's not

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going to turn out to be a
guy. And this is a good corrective

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to the idea that guys like this
never turn out because he really has made

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a comeback and bonus coverage. We've
got one more guy that you want to

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talk about. Let's go to Carolina
and a guy who made it out of

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that prospect system, Seth Jarvis.
Tell us about Seth Jarvis, Jeremy,

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This one's almost cheating because everybody knows
who Seth Jarvis is already. He's fantasy

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relevant in your fourteen team redraft leagues
already. It felt like he was on

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the cusp of a breakout after a
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at which time he was nineteen only. I believe from that lens it looked

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like a step back last year because
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it. But he also only shot
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was a little bit of bad luck
masking a pretty good season. Now this

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year, he looks like he's really
breaking out. He started with six points

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in five games, had three point
two shots per game. I think he's

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got the highest ceiling of everyone we've
talked about so far. Is one hundred

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point potential to bullish on him?
Like, I just think the sky's the

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limit for Seth Jarvis. Good stuff, Jeremy. This has been a good

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check through some of these guys.
Every once in a while, we've got

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to go in and take the pulse
of some of these players. We're trying

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to decide whether to give up on
them or not. Why don't you let

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people know where they should keep up
with the great work that you got going

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out on the internet this year.
If you want to keep up with me,

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you can listen to Keeping Carlton short
shifts, which I am on about

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half to three quarters of the time. We've got a rotating cast of hosts.

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You could also if you are an
ultra lighter patron for a Fantasy Hockey

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Life, you can check out the
scouting reports, which I help coordinate and

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schedule people to do scouting reports,
and I also do a couple of month

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myself and read some of that.
You can also hit me up on discord

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anytime. I'm Jeremy Vee in the
Keeping Carlson and Fantasy Hockey Life discords,

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and I'm open to private messages or
tags and channels if you have any questions

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about specific players or want to talk
about the Kraken. What is that avatar?

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Is that a triforce from the Zelda? It is? Yeah, look

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for the triforce. People look for
the triforce, and Jeremy is doing yeomen's

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work on keeping all the scouting stuff
moving along. We tip our hats to

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you regularly on this show, Jeremy, or we should appreciate everything you're doing.

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All right, we're gonna come back
right after this with a little bit

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more save me Safe starts. Billy, what do you think of Benafro.

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I'm gonna let you have them for
almost nothing. I would do that,

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Billy, because I'm amazing. All
I want is a couple of bucks in

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the sweeten Man throw in, say
Henderson Anderson. I like it. No,

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you don't. Nobody likes me.
I don't even know why I'm doing

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this, and let's just do it, okay, Ben and bro from Michaelson

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Henderson Anderson's I don't even know his
name. I'll break you, Bob,

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think about it and call me back. All right, everyone, Time for

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Tidy takes our segment where we focus
on the Tier dynasty, and to do

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that, we have to bring in
our Tidy Admiral Ryan Downey. How are

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you doing, Ryan? Hey,
Victor great as usual. Some of you

408
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may know, I'm coming off a
bit of a cold here, so I'm

409
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going to try and stay nice and
resonant and supported in my sound, and

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hopefully this is an enjoyable listen for
everyone. I'm sure we'll be. We

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have a few trades and a lot
of discussion to go through, so why

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don't you take it out take us
do that Ryan excellent. Before we get

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started, I do want to just
thank everyone for the feedback we've received on

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the Tidy Takes segments so far.
I want to remind everyone that this is

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a segment by the community and for
the community, and for the broader community

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beyond the Tidy. If we want
this to be interesting for everybody, regardless

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of whether you're a manager in the
Tidy, you want to be a manager

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in the Tidy in the future,
or if you're just looking for more fantasy

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00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:19,440
hockey insight. And we're hoping to
make this relevant to everyone. And thanks

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again for your feedback. And as
you mentioned, Victor, we do have

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a lot to talk about today,
so let's get to it. At the

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end of our first episode of Tidy
Takes last week, I teased a way

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00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:36,200
too long list of exciting young prospects
and young pros that we would be discussing

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00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,119
this week. We've been able to
sort it into five different trades we're going

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00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,359
to look at today. Some are
a bit more involved, those will go

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last. We'll start with a trade
involving Seth Jarvis and Liam Ogrin as the

427
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,839
kind of two main prospect pieces that
we're going to discuss. And this is

428
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,359
a trade that happened in Tidy Yager
eat Jamie Ben on our discord. Not

429
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,279
the real Jamie Ben at least I'm
not one hundred percent sure, but it

430
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:07,279
could be. But JB acquires Pavel
Francius and Ryan Graves of the Pittsburgh Penguins

431
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:14,119
from State of Hockey managed by Corey. Corey acquired Liam Ogrin and Seth Jarvis

432
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:20,039
for Francus and Graves. Our Tidy
community has voted pretty favorably for the Corey

433
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,920
side acquiring Ogrin and Jarvis. JB
had this to say on the deal.

434
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,240
I really like Ogrin. He's going
to be really good, and Jarvis is

435
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,839
good as well. Jarvis gets cold
and it's annoying. He's a bit like

436
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,640
Pacaretti in this particular context. I
paid a high price, but it's hard

437
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,640
to obtain goalies and good d men. I had injuries last season among my

438
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,519
goaltenders and want to add depth at
the goalie position. I also bet that

439
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:45,799
Ryan Graves is going to be more
like he was in Colorado. Victor,

440
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:52,480
what do you think about Ogrin and
Jarvis for France Sus and Graves. Yeah,

441
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,440
definitely true about the San Francos situation. You know, he's injured often.

442
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,559
And I also definitely agree about the
Jarvist situation. He can be so

443
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,039
good, but Carolina is so annoying
and how they deploy their forwards that it

444
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:09,119
can be very frustrating. And then
he can also get cold, but that's

445
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,759
what happens when you're playing. Not
enough time on ice as far as I'm

446
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:16,920
concerned, So definitely hard to get
goalies. And it seemed and it still

447
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:22,920
might be the case that Franco's plays
twenty to thirty games for Colorado this season,

448
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:25,200
but he has been injured. He
consistently is injured, so that's a

449
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,240
frustrating one. I like the bet
that Graves is going to be able to

450
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,279
do more, and if he is
able to ascend in the next year or

451
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:37,759
two, then ogram is probably irrelevant
to this discussion. If that is the

452
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,240
case, if he can win promotion, of course, if you don't,

453
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:44,599
then it might might look a little
bad. And I know that Corey is

454
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,440
a big Minnesota fan, and so
I think that's one of the reasons why

455
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,519
he really wants Ogrim. And Yeah, it does seem pretty even in the

456
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:55,799
sense that the value for d is
it's pretty hard to get some that are

457
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,319
relevant, and so if Graves can
increase that fantasy points, he'll be close

458
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,480
to Jarvis at a more premium position. So I feel like it's pretty even.

459
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:09,079
But I do like the risk of
trying to get a position. Yeah,

460
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:14,880
I always find these deals difficult to
evaluate when you have two rookie pieces

461
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,920
or young pro pieces. I guess
I should say because of Jarvis Jarvis,

462
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,679
I'm very high on I love the
player. I've always loved him. I

463
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,880
remember reading something about last year when
he went cold last year that this was

464
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,960
a function of Brenda Moore asking him
to play a more complete game and to

465
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,119
focus less on the offensive output.
Looking at the beginning of this season,

466
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,079
offensive output is the name of the
game, and for me, for my

467
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:42,719
personal taste in players, I would
prefer the Jarvis side. I just love

468
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,840
the player. It does look a
bit lopsided because Franzos is injured right now

469
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:51,079
and Graves being more of a defensive
defenseman. But I would prefer the prospect

470
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:55,159
side myself. All right. On
to the next deal here that happened over

471
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:59,800
in Tidy Gretzky. This is a
deal between Fred and Hatfield. Fred the

472
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,800
man for one, if Byrom two, If Byfield, you might have to

473
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,199
change the emphasis on the salable for
that name to make sense. Fred acquires

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00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:15,039
Anton Forstburgh and Matthew sam or Mackis. Fred acquires Anton Forstburg and Mackie Samuskvitch

475
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,760
from Portland Pirates Hatfield, our old
friend from last episode, for Philip Headel

476
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:27,000
and Jordan Spence. This deal was
voted pretty favorably for the Hatfield side acquiring

477
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:31,639
Heatl and Spence. We have some
commentary here from Portland Pirates saying that he's

478
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,079
trending more towards competing for next year. This is a continuation of what we

479
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,800
were discussing last week. It's a
tough balance of getting prepared for the future

480
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,880
while making sure I don't get relegated
and all my plans go out the window.

481
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,880
He's a big believer in Hetl in
the long term and that Spence will

482
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,880
likely be up with the big boys
here and there throughout the year and should

483
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,159
be a starter next year, and
he's comfortable moving on from Samuskavich because he

484
00:35:55,159 --> 00:36:00,159
doesn't feel him being a starter anytime
soon. This did happen prior to the

485
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:04,280
season, before Sama Skavich popped off
and joined the Florida Pro roster for now.

486
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,920
Finally, Hatfield added that he doesn't
trust Forstburg's knees long term and why

487
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,880
would you after an injury like last
season, feeling that he has a plethora

488
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,199
of one B goalies and feels like
this is a home run for the future.

489
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,280
Victor, What do you think about
this deal where Hatfield gives up Hetel

490
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:27,039
are What do you think of this
deal where Hatfield acquires Heatel and Spence for

491
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:31,199
Forstburg and Sata Skavich. Yeah,
I think this one's really interesting. Goalies

492
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:36,199
can have a massive point production,
and so if you just look at the

493
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,360
fantasy points, then Forstburg was nearly
seven per game when he played, which

494
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,400
wasn't all that often. This is
Anton Forstburg obviously the goalie, and Philip

495
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,480
Hetel. The thing about Heatel is
that he seems like he's ascending to that

496
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:52,480
second line role he was stuck always
as more of a third line behind Trocheck,

497
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:57,280
but it seems like that is shifting
as we speak, and he's getting

498
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,719
more time on ice, getting more
upper tunity, getting better linemates, and

499
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:06,599
so you really like that for Heatl. It is a center which depending on

500
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,880
your team, Like I tend to
build my teams through the wing and d

501
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:13,880
and so sometimes this could be like
a really nice play to have a more

502
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,159
depth center, but sometimes you have
too many centers and then he might not

503
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,679
play very often, especially because in
the tidy we don't have a skater position

504
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,119
and so you can't have too many
centers. That's always a bit of an

505
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:30,400
issue. So that's something to think
about. I personally think that Corporsolo is

506
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:34,400
overrated and is not gonna live up
to that contract that he signed, and

507
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,840
so you have to weigh that in. I think because Fordsburg I think is

508
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,199
as good, if not better than
Corpusolo, even though he's not getting the

509
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,960
contract. And so I like the
bet on Fordsburg because he could end up

510
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,360
playing roughly half the games for what
seems like a pretty good team, so

511
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,480
that could be pretty nice. I
also like Ketel. I'm not really talking

512
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:58,559
too much about the other two pieces
because I don't think they matter as much.

513
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:00,400
S'm a. Skevich did get a
short run at a training camp,

514
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,880
but he already got sent down.
I don't think he's going to play a

515
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,360
major factor this year, and Spence
certainly could if there's an injury. You

516
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:12,519
got Clark there ahead of him,
and they've got other guys like muv Are

517
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,360
so who knows. I don't think
that Spence is going to factor in too

518
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:21,199
much this So it's basically Forstburg for
Hetel, and they're just so different in

519
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:27,360
different situations and different positions that it
seems pretty even. Yeah, Edward and

520
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,519
I had Forsburg for portions of last
season in the tidy or division when we

521
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:36,239
did win. Of course, I'm
going to keep reminding everyone that we did

522
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,679
win that division last year. But
there's from my perspective, having that young

523
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,000
center with tons of upside is very
exciting. It's great to have that kind

524
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,920
of player to root for. Heatl
has been upping the ante through the beginning

525
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,559
of this season, centering the line
at points with Lafrenier and Panerin, and

526
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:57,559
it seems like he has a really
good chance at supplanting Trocheck this year.

527
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,880
So for me, I would certainly
prefer the certainty of a young player coming

528
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:06,400
into his prime in a perfect situation
for him. But I definitely understand,

529
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,719
especially in this league where we really
prioritize goaltending, I can understand making that

530
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,679
move and giving up on that upside
over to Tidy Yager. For the last

531
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,800
of our first section of these trades, here, we're going to talk about

532
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,719
Can York, who is a very
exciting young player playing in Philadelphia on the

533
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,679
d line, played for portions of
the past season, and is really looking

534
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,760
like he's going to get a great
opportunity this year. We have a trade

535
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,920
from nine to one one nine one
in our discord, but the team name

536
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:45,119
is nine Juan Wan acquiring Philip Grubauer
for Can York, Alix Protas and Eric

537
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:51,239
Comray from Yoger's mullet managed by Blair, a favorite in our discord, Victor,

538
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,960
what do you think about Grubauer for
York, Protas and Comery. Yeah,

539
00:39:55,039 --> 00:40:00,199
I think that it's the Protas and
Comery or not super relevant. I

540
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,320
think maybe part of the thought there
was that Levi wasn't gonna be the man,

541
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:08,960
or it was gonna be split and
you were gonna get some games from

542
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,639
Comrie at UPL. So far to
start this season that has not happened.

543
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,280
I put it out there that I
thought Levi was going to be the volume

544
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:21,199
guy, and he pretty much has
been, and even though they haven't won

545
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,159
as many games, it really has
not been Levi's fault. So I don't

546
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,559
think that Comrie is going to play
a significant factor here. So I think

547
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:34,559
that that piece and the pro Toss, who is just more a flex up

548
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:37,320
and down kind of guy, I
think. I don't imagine that he's gonna

549
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,559
play a significant role with the Capitals, which is who he plays for.

550
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:47,239
They do, although have some significant
need at center, I would say,

551
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,360
and so that's something to consider,
is that he has a you know,

552
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,159
maybe they're thinking that KU's nets off
backstrom Strom, like maybe he could play

553
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,400
with some of the higher end talent
on Washington, but it hasn't really born

554
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,519
out yet, and I think he's
just more of a depth piece. So

555
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:05,440
anyways, all that to say,
I think it really comes down to Grubauer

556
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:09,639
and York is really a strong player. And I know that some people like

557
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:13,880
the focus on the fact that he's
small and he's young and he plays for

558
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,559
Tortorella, but I think Torts really
likes him because he's he really is the

559
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:20,800
two way guy. He's not all
offense, and there's really no one else

560
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,440
there that's going to run the power
play in Philly. So I actually really

561
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,800
like this one for York. I
think this could be a real for Blair,

562
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,840
for yarn Mullet, I think that
could be a real sneaky way to

563
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,599
get a productive, top end power
play back at the end of the season.

564
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,440
Grubuer, on the other hand,
I have Grubauer in many leagues,

565
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,400
and he is incredibly frustrating because even
though Seattle has been mostly pretty good,

566
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:47,280
the Seattle limits the high danger chances
and shots in general, but then when

567
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,920
they do get scored on it,
it's usually something like fifteen shots against the

568
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,880
three goals, and you're like,
dang, So the points end up not

569
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,840
being as good as it could be
for someone who gives up a ton more

570
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,840
shots. That's a bit of a
frustration. And we have said that he

571
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,079
doesn't really have any challengers, but
Decord has played pretty well, and so

572
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:12,440
I think there's a legitimate concern that
Grubauer may not be the volume guy that

573
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,559
we once thought. So I prefer
the York side, but basically just because

574
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:21,760
of York, not the other pieces. Yeah, just to go in really

575
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,239
quick on the ancillary pieces on the
York side pro TOAs he's not going to

576
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,280
be a flex guy for much longer. We flexed him up and down a

577
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,960
lot, and I've had him and
somehow I've managed to own him in several

578
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:37,079
leagues. He's going to be gone
shortly from those rosters, and I understand

579
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:38,519
the com replay, but yeah,
I don't think he's going to get much

580
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:44,719
played this year. Blair has been
trying to move Grubauer since last season and

581
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,360
specifically was looking for some help on
defense, and York fit the bill as

582
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,000
a young rookie coming into his own. So I think both sides can be

583
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,960
happy here. Certainly, our Tidy
membership has voted this deal as pretty even

584
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,760
fifteen votes for the Grubauer side,
twelve votes for the Yoger's mullet can York's

585
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,920
side at the time of this recording, so I definitely can see it.

586
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,920
And the joey Oka factor in Seattle
is certainly scary to Groubauer owners, and

587
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,639
so I definitely see the rationale behind
this deal. Victor these last three deals

588
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:17,840
are all pretty cut and dry,
with players who are somewhat known to the

589
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,719
fantasy hockey world already, Jarvis,
Headel and York being the prospect centerpieces of

590
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,280
these deals. Victor, how far
up the lineup do you think these guys

591
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,880
can get let's say this season,
Jarvis, Headel, and York, And

592
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,360
how would you rank these three players
in terms of fantasy impact now and in

593
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,679
the future. Well, that's a
really good question. I think that it's

594
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:43,800
hard to separate the player from the
situation because you have to factor that in.

595
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:49,159
I think that I would probably take
York just because that is the one

596
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:53,320
of the most difficult positions to get
a high end point producing defenseman, and

597
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,000
he's actually much better for bash than
a lot of people think. And when

598
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,719
he's getting a ton of time on
ice, I think that's gonna really work

599
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:06,559
out. And we do think that
he's gonna play with I guess that may

600
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:08,159
not help too much Entidy, but
when he's playing with Mitchkoff, I think

601
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:14,239
that the upside there is pretty high. But I like him. I like

602
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,320
Jarvis, but I just really dislike
the Carolina situation. So I would probably

603
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,960
put him last, just because of
that reason, even though I love him

604
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,199
as a player, I think I
would just be so frustrated, and I

605
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,239
have been frustrated with Hurricanes in the
past, so I just steer away from

606
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,199
them in general, even though I
have a couple of shares sprinkled out through

607
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,320
my league. So I would put
Hetel second just because I think he's a

608
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,960
sending and zabana Jad is fantastic,
but he is not going to be this

609
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:45,480
same level of producer forever and he's
not like super old. But he's already

610
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,280
thirty is gonna be thirty one this
season, So I think in the next

611
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,920
couple of years, Heatl could be
a soft one. See what I mean

612
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,360
by that is maybe not a a
no doubt one seed, but situationally,

613
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,159
and he could end up playing with
some really good players. So I would

614
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:02,719
go your Hetel Jarvis, And that's
not necessarily the order that I think that

615
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,679
they're the most talented in just based
on the team situation. That's what I

616
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,639
would say. What about you,
Yeah, I tend to agree with you.

617
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,960
I think I'm higher on Jarvis than
you are. Just the talent of

618
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,679
the player really stands out to me. But then if you look at Carolina

619
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,239
guys like Andre Spechnikov, who many
say is one of the most talented players

620
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,920
in the league. He can do
everything. He can shoot, he can

621
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,320
score, he can hit, but
because of his time on ice, he's

622
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,360
not going to be that kind of
first round pick that we all expected he

623
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,960
would be. And so I think
Jarvis suffers similarly here, and I agree,

624
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:42,199
cam Yorke is the type of player
that I really can get behind.

625
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,960
Not only is he very talented offensively, he's great defensively. He's a former

626
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:52,079
captain of the gold medalist Team USA
and twenty twenty one in the Bubble,

627
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,679
so there's a lot of intangible elements
there that make him a very exciting player

628
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,400
to own. You can count on
his delay ployment possibly going forward. So

629
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,440
I think I'll agree with you with
your ranking a York Heel Jarvis, but

630
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,119
with the little caveat that, I
just have a soft spot in my heart

631
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:14,159
for Jarvis Victor. We've got two
more deals to discuss here, and each

632
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:16,000
of them have a ton of moving
pieces, so we'll have to talk about

633
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:20,719
them separately. Unlike the last three, many of these players are still early

634
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,239
in the funnel, and so we're
opening ourselves up to old takes exposed here,

635
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:29,159
but that's okay, that's what you're
gonna get at Tidy Takes over to

636
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:34,400
Tidy Yager, where we have a
deal between Gambler's Anonymous and Mystics. We

637
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:40,000
have Gambler's Anonymous acquiring Otto Stenberg,
Joel Hoefer and Matthew Potras from Ontario,

638
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,599
although we will pronounce it Patra.
According to the media Guide for Jacob Bernard,

639
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:49,719
Docker, Marc Andre Fleury, and
Shane gosssber So, we have a

640
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,000
straight up rookies for veterans trade here. Mystics has this to say, although

641
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:58,679
I'm fairly new to this type of
league, being that my previous leagues have

642
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:01,280
been mainly points only and keeper leagues, I felt that my team looked to

643
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,880
be fairly competitive after the draft,
so I decided to try to strengthen my

644
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,760
team when possible while still trying to
retain a good number of prospects. I

645
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,280
really hesitated to give up Hofer and
even Poatras. I thought it was worth

646
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,119
attaining a good d in Gost's bear, and I think Flury still has something

647
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:21,440
left to prove even at his age, and he includes that he sure hopes

648
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,760
so with the fingers crossed, probably
for the Flurry element more than the others.

649
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,920
Gampler has this to say, I
wasn't convinced that Flurry will play more

650
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,800
than thirty five games this year,
and perhaps mistakenly thought goss Is Bear might

651
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,199
struggle in Detroit. I think Hofer
will be a starter one day, and

652
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,079
I'm just rolling the dice on Poatras
in Stenberg. I also thought I had

653
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:44,239
the debt to deal those guys.
That's a heck of a dice roll on

654
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:50,360
Poastraw Victor, what do you think
of this rookies for veterans swap? Yeah,

655
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,800
so this happened before the season,
right, can you confirm that was

656
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:58,679
earlier? Yeah, that this happened
before the season before Matthew Potras was playing

657
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,079
on the second line with smershand.
Yes. Yeah, so, I mean

658
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:09,559
talk about seeing the future and taking
a well calculated gamble that sure seems to

659
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:14,239
have paid off pretty well. Yeah, that was a fantastic move. There

660
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,760
were definitely rumblings. There were people
talking about this rookie Quatra and how good

661
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,280
he was, But I don't think
anyone seriously thought he was this good.

662
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:27,840
Right now, with how poorly Zaka
has played. I don't think it's too

663
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,880
crazy to imagine that Puatra might stick
past the nine games and be a top

664
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:37,559
six center rest of season, which
would be incredible for what the price of

665
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:43,559
acquisition here. I like both sides
here. I like pieces on both sides.

666
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,079
I really love Hope for. I
think he although he's coming off a

667
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:51,440
pretty bad outing as we're recording this, but I still think has a lot

668
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,480
of upside and a lot of it
really just boils down to whatever you think

669
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:58,880
of Hope for. Bennington has just
continued to not be good, and so

670
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,119
that is something to consider, although
he did have a couple of decent starts,

671
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:07,800
but and the general trend is negative, so we'll see if he If

672
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:13,559
that continues to be the case,
where Hope For improved, Middington improves and

673
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,679
Hope For struggles, then this Hope
For acquisition is not going to look so

674
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,920
good. And Stenberg is probably a
non factor for the next year or two.

675
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:24,320
So it seems so far like a
home run with Potra, but also

676
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:30,199
the other side, and miss Sticks
is actually one of our few female competitors

677
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:35,079
in the tidy, by the way, so she got Gossips Bear, who

678
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,840
probably is the best part of this
whole deal, although it really depends on

679
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,840
what happens with Pratra because he could
end up being better. But I like

680
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:47,400
Gossi Spear, and I figured he
was going to get power play time because

681
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,880
you don't bring Gossips Spear in to
not play the power play. So even

682
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:58,719
though some people were skeptical based on
his based on other guys being there obviously

683
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,960
like Cider, he was still going
to get some opportunity, and so he

684
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:05,960
has and he's made the most of
it. They've had both on the power

685
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,519
play, So you could eat all
of that so far early in the season

686
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:14,199
just a couple of games in Puatra
has the same fantasy points as Gosta Spear

687
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,840
if you just look at positional scarcity, then d probably the tie goes to

688
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,840
gost the Spear, I would say, because that's a little harder to acquire.

689
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,280
But I think both these guys,
both of these gms are going to

690
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:30,000
be pretty happy with the early returns. Puatra might get the edge though,

691
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,960
just because you can flex him up
and down from minors to the regular,

692
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,280
although Boston doesn't have a ton of
off night games, so you're probably deciding

693
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,440
between him or some other pretty decent
centers. I don't know that Flury is

694
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,920
such a big a factor. I
mean, as we're recording this, both

695
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:51,599
Flurry and Gustafson have had great and
terrible games, so they might alternate a

696
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:53,360
bit. But I do think Gus
is going to win out and play most

697
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,400
of the games and be more valuable. But yeah, Flury is going to

698
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,800
give you something and it's nice to
have. And the tidy. I generally

699
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,360
have lots of goalies because just getting
some goalie starts here and there can be

700
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,599
extremely valuable. So I like both
sides. I really want to applaud the

701
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:16,880
foresight to acquire Puatraw as a well
calculated gamble that is so far paid off

702
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:21,639
massively, and gossaspar also, I
think. So I think both sides have

703
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,760
really good pieces. What about you? Right before I give my thoughts on

704
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,639
this, and we're really excited about
Poatraw and I did a little bit of

705
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,159
research, I want to share a
fun little tidbit about the player that I

706
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,920
found. And this story starts in
two thousand, when a talented center named

707
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,480
David Crachi was drafted by the Bruins
in the second round. After an impressive

708
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:45,480
draft season in the CHL with the
Gatine Olympics. The QMGHL a partner league

709
00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:50,239
there. Another thing that happened in
two thousand and four was Poatraw being born,

710
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:53,519
and now he debuts as the second
line center after being drafted in the

711
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:58,800
second round after an impressive draft season
in the CHL with the gwelf Storms.

712
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,480
Coincidence probably, but it's still fun
to know, and it's I don't think

713
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:08,199
any of us expected Poatraw full transparency. Victor Patraw was your one hundred and

714
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:14,000
twenty eighth ranked forward on your prospect
spreadsheet, which is available if you're a

715
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:17,360
patron at fantasy hockey. So even
you, who spends all your time on

716
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,760
fantasy hockey among other things, probably
didn't have him this high. But who

717
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,679
else are they put in a center? There was a story in The Athletic

718
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:30,079
over the weekend about Charlie Coyle being
fine with the demotion to the third line.

719
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:34,280
Clearly he's not it. Zaka has
not been great. I know people

720
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,559
are really trying and hoping that Zaka
is going to be it, but I

721
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:40,280
don't think he is. If anything, this gives Don Sweeney time to work

722
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,400
out what the more permanent solution is
at center, and maybe Platraw goes back

723
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,280
to junior, but I can't see
it. I think he's going to stick

724
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,880
around. When it comes to Flurry
v Hoefer. I think one year of

725
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,119
subpar Flurry for all of Hofer is
a big win for the Hofer side.

726
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,480
I'm high on the player. I
think he's a stud. He's going to

727
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:05,400
push Bittington this year. Bittington knows
it. He's had a pretty strong start

728
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,400
to the season. He's about to
be pushed, just like he was pushed

729
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,000
by who was just like he was
pushed by Charlie Lindgren. The only question

730
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:15,519
I have is will Hofer get shipped
out of town like those goalies before him?

731
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,760
Who knows hard to say. Saint
Louis is always thinking they're going for

732
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,440
it, so Hofer is certainly an
interesting piece, But I prefer the Hofer

733
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:27,079
side. And you're right, Stenberg, You're eighty eighth ranked forward who was

734
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,039
ranked higher than Poatra is a great
all around player, should eventually perform well

735
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:36,480
in this format, but is probably
irrelevant for this year, probably next year

736
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:39,840
too. Yeah, you're absolutely.
I did definitely did not see the Patra

737
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,559
thing coming. Everyone was focusing on
Zaka and Coyle and Beacha, which I

738
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,920
was skeptical about all those. I
really didn't see it coming. I thought

739
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,760
that, yeah, maybe he could
be a bottom sixer. That's what makes

740
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,480
it so fun. And yeah,
that's really fun about Crazy. There are

741
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,880
people saying like he's an I don't
really listen to anyone if they say he's

742
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:04,039
next Bergeon because that's a crazy comparison. But could he be the next Crazy?

743
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,960
Okay, that's more reasonable, that's
more reasonaby I could get down with

744
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,800
that. I still doubt it,
but it's pretty fun to think about.

745
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,719
I don't blame you. We're not
used to thinking of the Boston Bruins prospect

746
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,920
system as anything to get excited about, especially in recent years. You've just

747
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:23,639
named some of the top prospects on
that team. John Beecher, he's an

748
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,840
NHL player, sure, but is
he going to is he going to move

749
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,039
the needle? Probably not if he
was behind, if Patras was behind Beecher.

750
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:37,440
I totally understand why this is such
a surprise to everyone. It's exciting,

751
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:39,199
and as you said, it looks
even right now, we'll have to

752
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,920
reevaluate next season. Perhaps I'm interested
to see what happens with Pratra this year

753
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,280
though, over to Tidy Lemieux where
we have our last deal where we're going

754
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,880
to discuss today. This is another
doozy with lots of moving pieces. I

755
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,920
think both sides are going to be
very happy with this. It's another veteran

756
00:54:55,039 --> 00:55:00,599
selloff. We have Joe x Bondo
acquiring Max Paciretti, Jared mc can and

757
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:06,920
Brian Dumelin, Nellie Din acquiring Alex
Newhook, Cole Perfetti, Helga Granz and

758
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,360
a first round pick which was used
to select Braden Yaeger. Lots of moving

759
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,360
pieces here that we'll get into first
to the manager's commentary on the deal,

760
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:21,599
Joe feels that there's no sense in
keeping your number one pick for next year

761
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:24,840
if you won't even be there next
year, taking the promotion and relegation into

762
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,719
account here, Joe last season lost
in the first round to Clay, but

763
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,280
felt that he gave him a good
run and with everyone moving up, feels

764
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,800
like he has a really good chance
of winning it all this year, and

765
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,559
so he was comfortable moving that first
round pick among those future pieces to pick

766
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,760
up some high scoring veterans. He
picked up new Hook on waivers, so

767
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,760
that was found money and Perfetti,
in his opinion, won't be top line

768
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,280
this year. Barring any kind of
shifely trade. Seems like that won't be

769
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,800
happening, so it made sense to
him. He loves McCann for this year

770
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,280
and was comfortable paying the first Profetti
and new Hook for the package of Patriretti,

771
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,559
McCann and Dumalin Victor. What do
you think of this deal? With

772
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,480
so many moving parts and so many
players who were not actually sure what's going

773
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:13,000
to happen with them, That's always
what makes it fun, right when you're

774
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,639
not really sure what's going on and
what to expect. So yeah, I

775
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:21,920
think that this is as you mentioned, even there were definitely a lot of

776
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,239
votes on either side in terms of
people liking one versus the other. And

777
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:30,199
I think a lot of this is
going to depend on what happens with Patuaretti

778
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,800
and when he comes back, and
if he can be a real difference maker

779
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:38,679
towards the end middle end of the
season and give you tons of points in

780
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,519
your fantasy matchup or your playoff matchup
or close to them, that could make

781
00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:46,639
a huge difference. I really love
McCann. I think he's pretty solid.

782
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:52,800
I like Carolina the Seattle situation frustrates
me. But if I had to pick

783
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,599
one forward, it would definitely be
McCann because he's more of the goal scorer

784
00:56:55,639 --> 00:57:00,719
and he's a pretty high floor kind
of guy because he does enough of the

785
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,880
other preferle and generally when Seattle was
good last year there Fenrok was really high

786
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,599
and so that helped drive some of
the points for him. And he also

787
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,320
has decent time on ice, so
all that's looking good. I right now

788
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,119
he's at six point five to five
points per game, and so he has

789
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,079
Paturetti was higher, but he's not
going to play as many games, and

790
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:24,960
so McCann is probably the best overall
asset when you just look at it from

791
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:30,599
that lens. But Profetti he's someone
who could challenge that by the end of

792
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:35,239
the season. He has played some
top line right wing, but mostly he

793
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:38,239
has been on the second line center
or wing, and so that's a and

794
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,480
with a decent number of power play
point time so far. So I do

795
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,760
like that. But I also agree
with Joe that probably and Nelly din as

796
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,599
well that if you're thinking about next
year, these are all going to look

797
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:57,239
a little bit better. Right The
Profetti the new hook who seems to be

798
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:02,559
finding his voice space in Montreal.
So you like all that, And this

799
00:58:02,679 --> 00:58:07,119
is probably one of those just win
trades where the pieces that Joe sent are

800
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:12,320
good pieces, but they're just not
quite there yet. They probably need another

801
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,760
year or two and then they'll be
even better. And for Nellydn, why

802
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:21,280
not sell high where a piece that
might be more valuable now, although on

803
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,679
McCann I think will retain his value
for years to come. But you got

804
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to spend a little to get a
little back. I don't know that Jaeger

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00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:30,719
will make an impact soon enough,
but it's possible. He was close to

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00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,119
making an impact this year, so
it's possible that he's D plus two in

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the NHL. That is possible.
Grond's I'm not the biggest fan of.

808
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:42,639
I don't know that he's gonna have
a huge role, but if he could

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00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,159
at least play in the NHL.
But you got two solid pieces with new

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00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:50,000
hook and proffetti on this side,
and so I like that for the long

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term. But McCann I think will
probably continue to be the best asset for

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the next several years. Overall,
pretty even though, right, what do

813
00:58:57,679 --> 00:59:01,719
you think? Yeah? I love
these dels where it's clear what both sides

814
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,800
are looking for, and I like
being able to go through them and figure

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00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,039
out, Okay, what pieces were
added for what purpose here? And I

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00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:13,199
look at Helga Grants for Brian Dumelin, I think that's pretty even. You

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00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,800
have a respected veteran who he's at
the very thin edge of rosterruble. He

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00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,039
was a streamer d for us last
season in the tidy on our team,

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00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:25,519
we had him at points last year. If you're trading Helga Grants who his

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00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:30,679
ceiling might be just that fringe NHLD. I think that kind of makes sense.

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And then you look at Perfetti for
McCann, I think that's that could

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be even as soon as next year. It could also depending on Perfetti's injury

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00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:42,400
history and lineup placement. It could
also take a bit of time. I

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00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,800
can understand Profetti for McCann a little
bit in a vacuum. And then you

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,840
see the Max Pachuretti inclusion. You
have Alex Newhook. Both players have question

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00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,400
marks. I think Pachuretti, if
he's healthy, he had six point seven

827
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:59,519
Fantasy points per game in the twenty
one to twenty two season according to our

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scoring here in the tidy was not
much of a factor last year. I

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think you can see new hook and
a first for what Pachuretti could be.

830
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,960
I think it's pretty fair. I
think for myself, I would probably lean

831
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the prospect side. I get really
excited about prospects. I don't have the

832
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,280
patience to deal with Pachuretti and whether
he'll be in, whether he'll be out.

833
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,800
Although it sure looks like Washington could
use him right now they need something

834
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,800
going on the offense. McCann is
a great get. I do agree with

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you. I think he is the
best player in this deal. A bit

836
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,559
of a later breakout than some would
expect, and certainly took a couple of

837
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:38,679
teams to get there, but debuting
with the Kraken achieved relevance. I guess

838
01:00:38,719 --> 01:00:44,199
the only question about him is was
last season his peak? Did he overperform?

839
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,760
It's possible, but I think you're
still looking at a sixty five point

840
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,440
guy for years and years to come. Like I said, Profetti could be

841
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:54,400
a sixty five point player fairly soon. He was your eighth ranked prospect forward

842
01:00:54,480 --> 01:01:00,000
for a reason after all upside,
certainly for point per game multiposition elibility.

843
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:04,800
Eligibility is certainly exciting for him,
and there is the potential for more as

844
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,280
this team turns over time. Just
because these veteran players like Scheiffley and Hellbuk

845
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,559
have signed these huge, long deals
doesn't mean that they'll play the entire time

846
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:16,360
in Winnipeg. I think it is
fairly even. And then when it comes

847
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,880
to Yeager, who knows, right, he's your fifty fourth ranked forward.

848
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,079
He was just drafted. He might
is he's still eighteen. I think he's

849
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,119
still eighteen. He might make it, he might not. He's still at

850
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:30,599
the very fat edge of the funnel. It's a hard way to the top

851
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:34,559
six through all of these wingers.
You have Rikelly, have Rust, It's

852
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,719
oh, you have Riley Smith,
who's been really great to start the year.

853
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:39,639
Yeager is a big shooter, which
is always fun. It would be

854
01:01:39,719 --> 01:01:44,960
super fun to watch a young Jaeger
with an ancient sind and Gino and see

855
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,119
how that works out. He's so
young, it's hard to imagine him making

856
01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:52,679
an impact before those guys are gone
see the end of the Yeah, you're

857
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,840
right, it would be. But
I think that was one thing that was

858
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,280
discussed. I know we were talking
about the draft of all the guys that

859
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,679
Pittsburgh had available to them. That
was something that was discussed at the draft

860
01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:07,039
at fourteenth. Overall, they did
think that Jaeger was one of the closest

861
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:09,320
to be NHL ready, and they
even thought he had an outside chance of

862
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:14,280
playing this year, which was probably
pretty optimistic. They figure, maybe one

863
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,760
more year dominate in the WHL for
Moosejaw and then be maybe even ready at

864
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,320
the end of this season, and
that would be pretty fantastic. If they're

865
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,519
in the playoffs, maybe he could
help them go on a run at some

866
01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:29,760
depth and then be ready next year. So it is possible that Yeager does

867
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:35,119
contribute sooner than later, but yeah, it also might just not be a

868
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:37,480
factor. If both of these teams
are going for a promotion in the next

869
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:42,960
couple of years, then he might
not factor in. It's clear what Pittsburgh

870
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,079
is trying to do with Yeger maximize
the Crosby window by getting a good,

871
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:51,519
young, talented NHL ready forward screaming
down the wing and scoring off of the

872
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:54,480
rush from a pass from Sid I
hope we get to see it happen,

873
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:59,360
and I think these managers are hoping
that will be relevant for them as well.

874
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:04,000
The day, Nellie didn gets perfetti
and a great lotto ticket in Jaeger

875
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:07,800
and some grist for the mill.
Nellie is also one of our more eager

876
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:13,440
managers to trade in the tidy I
went back and just had a look at

877
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,119
some of our draft conversation and Nelly
Din is always ready to mix it up

878
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:21,639
and change things up, and you've
got to respect that as a fantasy manager.

879
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:24,719
And I think a good deal has
been achieved by both parties here.

880
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,719
Victor, thanks so much for having
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Thank you Bryan, and thank you
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