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Breaking down all the exes at OH. It's Steve Lavera and Jagin Salmas.

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This is I on the Bark on
Fox Sports fourteenth. Hey, welcome back

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to my I on the Ball here
on Fox Sworts fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,

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he is Matt, and you are
Ryan. Ryan with breaking news.

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With breaking news, Let's get into
it. We'll start with University of Arizona

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a little bit of football news in
today they announced three starting times for the

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upcoming season. Arizona will open the
season hosting New Mexico on August thirty,

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first at seven thirty pm on ESPN. The following week are going to host

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NAU on September seventh at seven pm
and for the first time, they'll be

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on the Big twelve Now network,
so that'll be cool to see. And

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then the other start time was against
Houston on November fifteenth. That's going to

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be on FS one, so there's
a Friday night game and against Houston that's

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a late start, right eight fifteen
pm local times in August seventh to August.

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What Houston game is November fifteenth,
Okay, but they did announce,

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so we now have the first three
games of this the Brent Brennan era for

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Arizona, and you get a primetime
kickoff, or not a primetime kickoff,

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but a Pac twelve after dark ESPN
kickoff Big twelve after Dark now against New

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Mexico. So you get the nine
to thirty Central time, ten thirty Eastern

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time, seven thirty Arizona time kickoff
slot on ESPN against New Mexico NAU on

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the Big twelve network, which is
an ESPN Plus broadcast, And the following

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week you get primetime Fox on a
Friday night at Kansas State. That's a

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non conference game between two Big twelve
opponents, and it's a good showcase way

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to start this era, and it's
the first start look that we'll get to

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see what the Big twelve is gonna
be like exactly Kansas State that seven thirty

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start here against New Mexico August thirty. First, I think you said it's

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gonna be hot. Still, it's
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one hundred and sixty on the floor, if not odder at seven thirty,

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because it's August. Still August,
it's going to hang in the air

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a little bit up there. Good
luck to you, right, you know,

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it's funny we talk about well,
go ahead, I'm sorry, we'll

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we'll talk about baseball here in a
bit o. Sticking with University of Arizona,

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we're switching over to volleyball. They
added a transfer, Amanda do It

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from South Florida. She played at
South Florida for three seasons, played in

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seventy matches total for excuse me,
five hundred and forty five kills, one

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hundred and twenty two total blocks.
Yeah. That. I don't know if

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you knew much about the program,
met but it used to be pretty good.

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And I said David Rubio, David
Rubia one of our favorite guys here

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on the show. You know,
Dan got to the final four once maybe

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lead eight. The other time.
It wasn't great, but consistently kind of

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good. And then it kind of
fell off the table for a while.

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And in a tough conference, still
in a hugely tough conference. Yes,

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but it's hard to be Arizona in
volleyball because you have that conference, right,

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the Stanford's, the USC's, you
know, the Sillies. But they

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but you know what, they've been
on the rise a little bit. I

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saw some progress towards the end of
last season. As we've mentioned yesterday,

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I got here in October and did
see some progress Towards the end of last

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season. The record wasn't where they
wanted it to be, but Rita started

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to turn things around head coach Rita
Stubbs, and I think the additions they've

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made in this offseason, I think
they've really used that transfer portal gotten the

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right types of players in and this
transfer would be another addition to that.

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There's that positive TV guy, you
know, always positives yesterday. The NBA

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Playoffs continue tonight, Game five between
the Mavericks and the Timberwolves. Mavericks looking

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to try to close the series out
again after they barely lost Game four.

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It's been been a close series,
even though Mavericks. Ryan, let me

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explain something to you. Sports is
all like democracy. You win by one,

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you win, you win by ten. Get what you win close as

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close close, And Dallas has been
so good executing, executing at the end

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of games. But when you have
an offensive performance like Karl Anthony Towns did

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for Minnesota in Game four, that
is a difference maker for this Minnesota.

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Let me float this one by you
guys. Okay, so let's say Dallas

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loses tonight. It could be trouble. There's a lot of pressure going back

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home to Dallas for Game six if
that's the case, and then if you

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don't win that game, you go
back to Minnesota. In Minneapolis, I

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mean, that's that's a no team
in NBA history has ever blown a three

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to zero lead, No team in
basketball or hockey in the same season.

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So what I'm trying to say is
tonight's game is not a must win,

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but it's a must win. It's
as close as you can get to a

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must win. Yep, yep.
I think one of the key players for

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Dallas if he is eligible tonight,
is Derek Livewick. Yeah, rookie from

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Duke. He's been stellar, and
you know he has been out with the

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neck injury, in and out of
the line up a little bit. But

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if he plays. He didn't play
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big difference. But if he plays, that could make a huge difference for

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Dallas. I mean, Daniel,
Daniel Gafford is he's He's been a good

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addition to that team, but I
don't know, Lively just brings it different.

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Yeah, very impressive by the Dallas
front office to put the right pieces

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around Luca and Kyrie to both shore
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So we'll see what happens tonight.
Okay, NFL a little bit of

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NFL news. The Bears are going
to be on HBO's Hard Knocks this year.

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That's good for I guess good for
the fans, Chicago fans. They'll

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be able to get a behind the
scenes look at the number one overall pick,

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Ko Williams, and maybe we'll see, we'll see what the Bears can

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do this season, if they can
actually Yeah, it's back to the playoffs.

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It's been a rough road, but
you know, I find this Bears

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team really intriguing. And I covered
another team in the NFC North, the

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Green Bay Packers, for a little
over three years, and you know,

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there's there's plenty of jokes in Wisconsin
when it comes to the Bears expense.

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However, you know, they added
a lot of pieces in free agency this

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offseason. Really like what they did
the white receiver position. You know,

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obviously their first round draft pick,
their second first round draft pick. They

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got Room Donsay from Washington, who
was a stellar receiver. You know,

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we watched him play in person this
year. Steve and he is just a

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very difference maker at the catch point. So you also have DJ More in

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that room, you have other offensive
skill pieces. They got a lot of

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guys on defense who are you know, are young, but I have played

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a lot of good snaps in this
league. I think they could be scary.

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But it just depends on how fast
Caleb develops. And it'll be really

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interesting to get that inside look of
what he's like during training camp. Yeah,

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I mean, yeah, you mentioned
a doosday. He's heck of a

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heck of a receiver. I remember
watching the semi finals. I'm a Longhorns

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fan. I was like terrified to
see what he was going to do against

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Texas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, it's twenty the Green Bay

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Pack yours fandom. Uh well,
and it's not funny because it's it's easy

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to dump with the Chicago Bears because
they haven't done much in your lifetime,

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right, I mean maybe one year
two years of good play, Yeah,

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I mean they made the playoffs maybe
a couple of times. But Green Bay

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has been so consistent and dominant forever
and it's the oldest rivalry in the NFL,

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So you know you're gonna get especially
with the border rivalry, you're gonna

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get some chirping there, back and
forth. But the Packers have just owned

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it for the last thirty years.
How was? How was? This is

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just do you have enough? You
have enough stuff to write? How was

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covering Rogers? Covering Rogers was interesting
just because, especially after he started going

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on McAfee every week the Pat McAfee
show, he was he made available to

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you guys at all. Yes,
okay, so every single Wednesday he would

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be available and then he would be
the first one of the podium after games.

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Okay, so we would we talked
to the code. The NFL media

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schedule is a little bit more immersive
because you know, they have time for

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us. Yes, it's their job, right, So the head coach talks

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pretty much every day of the week. You know, we have locker room

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access for three days a week and
on game day and then Monday is just

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the head coach. But Aaron Rodgers
would always talk on Wednesdays. And it

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was interesting because he would go on
the Pat McAfee show on Tuesdays and kind

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of get any elephants in the room
out of the way or discuss whatever he

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wanted to discuss. And so a
lot of our questions on Wednesdays were follow

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ups to whatever he said on McAfee
on Tuesdays. And then sometimes it was

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him taking the air of oh,
you're blowing this out of proportion. Sure,

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and he says things in such a
convincing way to where you believe,

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oh, yeah, maybe I was
blowing it out of proportion. Right.

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Well, he always came off to
me and I know these players because I've

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covered a couple of them. The
smartest guy in the room, yep.

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And if you didn't believe that,
he would make sure you would believe that

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yep. And agenda agenda driven maybe
in some sense in certain topics yep,

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but still very bright, very bright, and you had to respect that because

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he was very bright, or is
very bright, and engaging as well.

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I mean to give him credit,
he's very engaging, not too big for

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any questions. We have conversations with
us, he having been with him for

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three years, and which is good
enough to answer this question? I think

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is he a little bit misrepresentative or
miss miss Nott representative? Was he not

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the guy that we think he is? Does that make sense? I think

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in some ways yes, and in
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been a narrative out there, and
it's a narrative that we paid attention to

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a lot as local media in Wisconsin
of he was maybe not the best teammate.

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There's every talk to everybody in that
locker room, talk to players around

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this league. They all rave about
Aaron Rodgers. So a lot of the

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I think a lot of the criticism
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fair criticism at times are because of
things he says and because of how people

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in our position perceive the things he
says. So he digs these holes for

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himself a lot. That's not to
demonish him of that or absolve him of

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that, but he also I mean, he's a great a one locker room

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guy, is a true leader and
is someone that does you know, he

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has high standards, but he puts
his arm around people and you know he's

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a gamer and people respect both his
play his demeanor on the field. Well,

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I've seen a few eye rolls on
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that's what kind of you think,
Like, these guys are your teammates,

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man, Yeah, I'd be a
little pissed if you were doing that

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with me. But you know,
I mean we saw Travis Kelcei, who's

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one of the most likable guys in
the league, shove Andy Reid in the

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Super Bowl. So you know,
people get saying things in the heat of

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battle and up to intensity, right
exactly. So okay, ye, very

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unique, very unique to cover him, So very fun experience with that.

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Ryan, he got anything else?
Yep. A little bit of MLB news

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from a game last night from the
New York Mets. They defa Or Lopez

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after a post ejection he walked off
the field and he tossed over a frustration.

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Those Mets absolutely terrible. Oh terrible. I was trying to use this

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S word, which they do.
They are terrible. And I guess it

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wasn't Lopez somebody else in the locker
room. Did you hear the clip?

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We just suck? I mean,
so it was him. That was The

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big controversy about him is that so
he is not English, is not his

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first and so this was lost,
Yeah, this was lost with a translator,

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and so the quote was transcribed as
I'm on the worst blanking team in

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Major League based Sure, sure,
but what the what native Spanish speakers have

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said about it was he could have
said or could have just it could have

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just been mistranslated or just misrepresented.
I'm the worst teammate in Major League Baseball.

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So that is two completely different statements
that could be lost in translation.

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Well, having having been hispanic all
my life. Uh, And I listened

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to the clip because they played it
three times, because they went back to

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him three times, did you mean
this? And then then they they went

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back again did you mean this?
And he was said, yes, I'm

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thinking the first thing that you said
that we suck. We're a bunch of

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mediocre dudes, right, And I
mean he's not wrong. That's a rough

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year and he was just telling you
that. He says, yes, I'm

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that's who we are. And just
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let go or at least to put
just so yeah, that's I mean,

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I think at a certain level of
service time because he's had about a decade

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in the league. Being DFA,
it means you don't just go down to

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Triple A. I think you you're
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it is we're in this business and
not that we live for these moments,

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because we don't, but these moments
are given to you, right and you

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and you and you go back and
say, just for just for clarity,

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did I just hear that? And
I don't want to be wrong if it's

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gonna go in the paper or whatever. And he says, yes, you've

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got a great story, right,
and guess what, this is a great

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story about a bad team. Right, and he circled back. I think

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today or i'd heard that, he
circled back and said, this is what

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I meant. You know what did
he mean that the the bad teammate thing

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or something to that extent. So, I mean, anybody can say this

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is what I meant the day after
when you're not eat of the moment.

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But you know, I think I
think it's a unique story, especially with

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you know, if he had said, whatever they do, they can cut

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me whatever. All right, we'll
catch right, right, I mean he

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didn't deny saying that, probably right, Yeah, okay, all I got

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Okay, cool, cool, it's
a four thirteen. Let's do this.

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Since you're done and we're done too, let's take the break, come back

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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio WAP This
is I on the Ball with Steve

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Roberta and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back,

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to win the ball. Here Fox
Sports fourteen fifty, I'm Steve roberta heez,

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matt Rydelson. Now on the phone, we have Dwayne Rankin of the

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Arizona Republic, who covers the Sun's
Dwayne, how are you? I'm good?

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You going fine? Thank you.
I guess one of the things that

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you've learned over the years that Sun's
back well never really stops. Does This

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doesn't stop for any team in the
league. But storylines are difference for everybody.

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But the league is twenty four to
seven. But the fun thing to

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have the more interesting headlines, for
sure. They certainly do, and I

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guess one of the big headlines that's
taking shape this week is that they are

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one of two teams linked to Bronnie
James right now, Lebron's Sun coming out

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in this year's NBA Draft, and
obviously Phoenix holding the twenty second overall pick.

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What are you seeing from these rumors? Is there legitimate smoke here or

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is it maybe Matt Ishbi and James
Jones throwing out a smoke screen to try

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and get the Lakers to trade up
to that pick. What are you hearing

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from this and these rumors? I
mean, you started off with the key

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words to it. But at the
end of the day, if he's going

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to narrow down his field of who
he feels as if he wants to work

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out for I think one of the
things that's getting lost in that is people's

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teem to forget the James Jones and
Lebron James are really tight. So that's

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something that I don't think has been
bought out as much, but that could

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be playing a role what's going on
as well. I don't know that for

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a fact. I just know that
that's something to consider when you're looking at

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this as well. The whole idea
of the sons are going to trade to

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pick anyway is what you know,
That's what the thought has been with them,

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how they've used picks in the past. So it's like you can dive

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into it a bunch of different ways. But at the end of the day,

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if Lebron James Sun comes in for
a workout and he does well,

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does that mean that he's going to
end in Phoenix? I don't know.

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But the other thing to consider is
that that his son could easily go through

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some workouts or a workout. They
have more than one team at it,

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so when you're looking at that whole
idea of I guess they're supposed to be

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three three spots that he's supposed to
be potentially going to. I try not

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to lead too much into into that. And I know it's exciting for fans

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and the thought of if the bride
son is drafted and that because you're legged

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up and signing Lebron, the fact
the idea of Lebron taking a vet minimum,

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I'm gonna just leave it at that
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that that he does land with Phoenix, just for assumptions, how would he

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fit in. I can't even assume
that, So that that I can't even

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I can't even entertain because I just
think that a lot of things got to

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happen for that to happen. Uh. Now, if you want to put

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on my imaginary cap, how that
could work, I mean I could do

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it. But I mean, at
the end of the day, now you're

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adding you're adding the Hall of Fame
player, how did effect you know?

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Again, you got to figure to
the rotation. He's obviously starting. It

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means that somebody is not starting in
that group. But I mean, it's

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just it's just too I just can't. I can't go there. It's just

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there's too much there to even formulate
in my mind on what I Again,

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I could go through it as well
as a team, but then again,

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you're adding another piece is going to
be ball dominant. But now, you

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know, what are the other guys
gonna do. They're gonna sit there and

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watch. Now They're gonna watch the
barn with the ball. It's just you

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know, I mean, if I'm
Mike Blunoser, you know EASi, I

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mean, the idea of that would
be it would be great for jeworship.

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You'd be grateful to look at Wow, But is that going to make you

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a Is that gonna make you a
championship team? Because you're adding one of

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the greatest players every y You would
think, yeah, but I can't even

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I can't do that. Good luck
with the rest of them. They want

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to, but I just can't smart. So I mean, these hypotheticals,

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I mean, they all look a
little sunny, but the current outlook is

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a bit stormy with what they are
under the second apron of the salary cap

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right now, because you know,
this team is a little bit stuck.

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Bradley Build's no trade clause. I
mean, Kevin Durant making a whole lot

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of money. Obviously you're not moving
bookers the corner stone in your franchise.

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But they have to get better pieces
around that team, around that core this

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year because I mean you saw guys
like Cat batest Up and Utah Watanabe not

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work last year. How do they
figure out a way to construct this roster

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around those three? And I think
the big question is do they need a

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point guard? Well, here's here's
here's two things. You know, if

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they're not going to move the big
three, which is what you know it

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is, is basically said that that's
not gonna happen. So all right,

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if they're not gonna do that,
then you gotta look at people that they

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could move contracts that are movable.
Uh. Some people don't want to hear

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this, but Greson Allen's contract is
movable. He would be someone that would

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be like, oh okay, if
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somebody in, they can help them
in other ways. But if you just

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listen to again, I keep going
back to Ispure when he says they have

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enough talent to win the championship,
you can't run it back, which is

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what he said as well, but
he literally said they have enough talent to

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win the championship. So you're looking
at that and going, Okay, they

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were swept, so they're thinking that
the head coach was the problem, but

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just why they fired Bogol and while
they hired buonosers so they believe BuNos can

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come in and fix this. Now. I believe that if they do something

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major, you gotta look at it
out of season. Starts out trade deadline,

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be a situation where they can make
a move. But I believe they

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should do something before the season.
You know, you've got movable contracts,

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Nazi little contract is movable. You
know, you have situations where outside of

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the Big three, you would think
everyone else is expendable. So you add

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a you know, I've been thinking
of four. I think they need a

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dynamic four so Durant can play the
three. A point guard would help.

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But you're gonna bench a guy that's
making fifty million dollars a year in Rarey

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Bill, you're gonna do that?
That That just that that's just like wow,

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okay for a guy that may not
even be someone you're paying more than

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four or five million. Yeah,
got decisions. That need to be made.

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The point guard would help the situation, but you're gonna have probably a

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three guard. Look if you have
if you're not gonna bench bill, that

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would be a bill the point guard, Booker, Durant and Nurkice. That's

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the same situation they would have if
they had last year, except you would

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have a guy that would be able
to facilitate. But you're not gonna get

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I think the thought is they get
this point guard, he's gonna be I

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was going to be able to come
in and run off sense that guy.

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And as that guy's out there,
he's playing for another team, another team

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not trying to give him up.
So you got to be thinking that.

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You got to be thinking of somebody
that you potentially see could be that person

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still available. What he was,
what he was okay, yeah, what

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he was for Miami. The cross
the cross side of that is it.

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The window was small. You know, Durant's going to be thirty six September.

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But yeah, let me ask you, you've covered the team for how

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long? Now this was my sixth
six years, and I've talked to a

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couple of people up there one on
the show here a little after the season

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had ended. It was not an
enjoyable year for them? Was it enjoyable?

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Enjoyable is not the right word.
How was it for you after six

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years? You mean covering this year's
Yes, I don't look at it like

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some dude, like some look at
it like, oh, it was a

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bad season if you if you're covering
the team, At least from my perspective,

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I come from a maybe I'm old
school, I don't know, but

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I don't come from the place where
the willians and losses determine how good or

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bad it was to cover the team. I mean, the team struggled,

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but the first season I covered them, they won nineteen games, and so

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it wasn't like it wasn't like it
was a bad season to cover. It

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was very interesting. I look at
covering teams and ton of interest, and

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the interest was high, and that
son's team when it won just nineteen games,

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and the interest was high, and
this year's team when they won forty

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nine games, and the interest was
high when they went to the finals.

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But I don't view it as oh, they're winning, so it's great,

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or they're losing so that's not That's
not how I look at covering the team.

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You have to look at the stories, have to look at the players,

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you look at the coaches. That
whole olgol Ow it unfolded. That

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was you're covering that. That's that's
interesting stuff. Yeah, right, as

407
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:11.839
I said me, like you're not
yelling on that. They're like why they

408
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.799
gonna fire this guy? Right that
the one season IT'SHBA comes in the changes

409
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:21.960
he's made. Oh no, all
that was all that that that's been just

410
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.559
as interesting as it was when they
went to the finals. But from a

411
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.119
story it's a different it's just a
different interest. But from a storyline standpoint,

412
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.680
I mean, this is this Mike
Budenholz remove was kind of kind of

413
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:36.880
made for the headlines, right,
I mean the Arizona native returns home after

414
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.279
to coach the team that he beat
in an NBA finals. I mean I

415
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.000
covered Mike Budenholzer up in Wisconsin,
and I think a lot of people were

416
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:49.200
frustrated when he was let go after
that series they lost to Miami when Giannis

417
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.359
had hurt its back and you know
they were just kind of scrambling the whole

418
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:57.200
time. He lost his brother during
that series in the tragic accident. I

419
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.359
mean, there were a lot of
factors to that. I know a lot

420
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.519
of people in Wisconsin weren't happy to
let him go. He took a year

421
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.480
off, and now it feels like
even though Frank Vogel probably got the raw

422
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.720
end of the deal here, I
mean, maybe this is the ray of

423
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.200
sunshine and me is Steve's been talking
about all show, But it feels like

424
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.880
in immediate upgrade. What do you
think do? I think he's a really

425
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:23.440
good coach. I think he's offense
Dolphins should be better regardless of what they

426
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:29.599
do player wise, the Dolphins should
be better because he's a better offensive coach

427
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.559
than vocal, So the offense Dolphins
should be better. I think that he

428
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:40.559
has an understanding of he's refreshed and
he's and he's recharged, and he has

429
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:45.200
a new view on life. You
know. I think he's he's coming back

430
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.440
into the profession with with a with
an outlook. That's that's that's someone like,

431
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:53.759
hey, look, I never thought
I would be in this position coaching

432
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.119
the Phoenix. Un Now I am. We're gonna go and they're gonna go

433
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.240
and make the most of it.
And so I think all of those factors

434
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:03.839
who with something to look at as
far as him as a coach. But

435
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:08.000
at the end of the day,
you still got to perform, and if

436
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.279
they don't get it done, he
gonna draw some heat for it. And

437
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:18.559
so that's that's the the status has
been set by the owner and the fact

438
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:26.839
that you've moved two coaches like he
has tells you that he thinks, Hey,

439
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.559
it's on coaches that make this happen. And so it's the pressure is

440
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:34.519
on the coach to make it happen. And like unlike other programs where guys

441
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.960
have gotten three four years to to
to to make it happen. And I'll

442
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:41.799
leave you with this, I know
we got to get ready to get off

443
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.680
here. I think one of the
things that's interesting about the summer you talk

444
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.599
about the six season I covered the
team, they were in development mode before

445
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.720
Chris Paul joined the team, and
then once he joined the team and they

446
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:59.599
took off, then it went from
development the championship. That's how quickly it

447
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:04.519
changed. Means for this franchise.
Had they stayed in that development mode,

448
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.680
maybe two more years after many we
might be looking at a different situation.

449
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:12.880
That might be a different head coach, we might be looking at a different

450
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:18.960
situation. But when Chris Paul joined
the team, the expectations rose when they

451
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.720
went to the finals. The expectations
went from development to win a championship.

452
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.519
And that's where they have been and
that's where they're gonna stay until either the

453
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:33.079
bottom falls out or they win one. Well, last question, quick quick

454
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.599
question, Uh, does coach finalized
his assistant coaches? I was just curious

455
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.279
if Miles Simon is gone for good
or is he sticking around. Well,

456
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.920
from what I was told, they
let go of everybody, but Fiddale was

457
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:52.079
someone that they tried to offer a
front office job and then he didn't that

458
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.160
that didn't work, So now he's
back at an assistant I still am still

459
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.599
hearing that they haven't brought anyone else
back. And from the thumb vault staff

460
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:05.279
coach Simon obviously is a very good
coach. I think he'll land on his

461
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.440
feet somewhere else because in the fraternity, you still got jobs that are out

462
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:16.359
there. You know, the Lakers
will have aw about even eight assistants,

463
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:22.960
probably more, uh be looking at
Another opening is out there as well,

464
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:29.559
so in Cleveland, so he keep
going. He probably he probably gonna land

465
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.519
somewhere for the job. But from
mind being told no, no, he's

466
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.960
not in the he's not in the
running to join rejoin the son, but

467
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.279
neither are the other guys as well
from what I've been doing. Okay,

468
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.720
well, Dwayne, thanks a bunch
for coming on the show. Thanks.

469
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.839
I appreciate it. No problem,
no problem, Well, thank you.

470
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.039
Yeah. You know what, his
perspective on covering the team is perfect.

471
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.279
And I said, because it's not
happy Gilmour like you and that pessimistic guy

472
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.880
like me. You know, so, right, Betwet. Yeah, especially

473
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.960
because you know I've been through those
coaching teams and things like that. I've

474
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:05.079
covered a whole lot of coaching changes
between Lincoln and here, and you know,

475
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.960
there's a certain interest in that because
it's okay, what made the decision

476
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:13.000
in this process and what are the
results to this process? And I just

477
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.519
think that that's so interesting for it
it allows you to craft a story about

478
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:20.880
it and just get the real kind
of inside look of the change. And

479
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.200
I think his approaches is perfect with
the perspective in terms of I'm here for

480
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:28.680
the story and not for the raw
rah. I'm just here to do the

481
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:30.160
story and go home and do it
again. To morow, he said he's

482
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.200
old school. Yeah, yeah,
I appreciate that very much. So it's

483
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.920
my first time ever talking to him
for a few of these last years.

484
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.599
Okay, let's take the break,
come back, and then maybe take some

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Hey, welcome back to I on
the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen

528
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fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's
Matt Renalds. Got our guy Ryan,

529
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:07.079
who hasn't missed up today. That's
good. We'll bring you back next week,

530
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.639
right, your next week again?
Two weeks? Yeah, okay,

531
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.840
cool? Uh, anything you want
to talk about real quickly, it's good

532
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.840
with He's very straightforward, straight Forwardwight
draining. It was kind of like,

533
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.920
yeah, okay, it tosses us
great topics. I mean with the headlines,

534
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:23.880
the breaking news headlines, you were
crushing it because you gave us so

535
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:29.679
many jumping off points that we could
just sit there and roll with talking about

536
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:35.039
you Ryan not doing I was talking
about doing just the background and stuff.

537
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.960
I think that the new coach is
going to do very well there one because

538
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.000
he's a good coach. And I
think that the former coach will probably lost

539
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:46.599
the locker room early early, and
once you do that, you've probably never

540
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.800
been married and divorced. You don't
wt to Jay say don't listen to me,

541
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.480
but once once that once the issues
start to happen, it's tough to

542
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.639
put them back together. The big
thing, though, is you never want

543
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.960
to be the guy to replace the
guy right, And I think a lot

544
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.280
of people were frustrated, whether in
that locker room or in the organization,

545
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.000
that Monty Williams right got let go
the year before. And I thought he

546
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.599
was a good coach. He was
a very good coach. And the results,

547
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.880
obviously in Detroit this year did not
speak to that and did not speak

548
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.800
to his ability to coach. I
mean, an NBA record losing streak this

549
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.039
year with the Pistons. But I
think he was a good developer of talent.

550
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.320
But you know, the thing was
that he had his definite riffs with

551
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:28.639
guys like DeAndre Ayton, you know, who had a up and down time.

552
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.360
And I don't think anybody wouldn't have
the riffs when right and all it

553
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.119
was was can you play? Yeah, just play play? They stay off

554
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:37.880
the video games, l N exactly. I mean kind of if you're the

555
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.960
coach, kind of like Tommy Lloyd
with Boswell, right, right, just

556
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.880
play enough for this other stuff and
then we catch it on camera and guess

557
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.320
what he was doing. He was
coaching, right, isn't that what he's

558
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.960
wait to do, coaching and coaching
hard. I mean, Da was a

559
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.320
double double machine and a guy that
could get you, you know, like

560
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.320
twenty twenty five and fifteen in big
games and in big spot's just you needed

561
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.519
the consistency there. And I hope
he finds it in Portland because I know

562
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.280
people loved him for his one year
here and he I think he deserves to

563
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.039
do well and he's this talented,
talented athlete. Well, if he just

564
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.800
stays away from snowstorms, yep,
you know what I'm talking about. He

565
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.719
didn't get to the game because the
storm storm. Okay, No, So

566
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:25.039
what we were talking about before that, all sorts of good topics with Dwayne,

567
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.519
Yeah, dude, Dwayne right right
right. So I think the new

568
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.400
coach is going to do fabulously well
because he's he's respected, he knows the

569
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:39.519
game. The question is Kenny handled
the three and Ken the afford a bench

570
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.880
because the bench wasn't there, right, And I think Dwayne made a very

571
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:50.039
good point about them moving contracts,
having movable contracts to get under the second

572
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:54.039
apron of that salary cap. Because
the big thing is I don't understand NBA

573
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:59.519
contract, contractual salary cap restrictions the
same way that I do NFL, because

574
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.760
NFL's pretty straight up. You're not
going over the salary cap. You just

575
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:06.039
are. The salary cap is what
it is. Your contracts have to fit

576
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.960
underneath that. All your cap pits
have to fit underneath that. Matt Eshpia

577
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:13.639
is in the not just the luxury
tax, but the second apron of the

578
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:19.119
luxury tax, which gives so many
interesting restrictions throughout the roster of guys that

579
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.320
they can trade, guys they can
sign. They have different designations for different

580
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.400
players, like this is a bird
rights player, this is a mid level

581
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.000
exception player, this is a super
max contract player. All sorts of jargon

582
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.480
that you could get lost in the
weeds with. But the big thing is

583
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.159
right now, the big thing to
take away from that is the Suns don't

584
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:42.039
have a ton of flexibility unless they
get some of these bigger contracts out of

585
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.679
there. And I think the three
to take a look at are use of

586
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:50.239
nurkicsre Little, and Grayson Allen.
So Ryan, he was talking Greek to

587
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.079
me, could you translate lost in
the weeds or what the hell are you

588
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:58.400
talking about? With third options and
restrictions way too way too much nbah argon.

589
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.000
I mean, I don't even understand
it, very base level. I

590
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.719
just know the terms. Just give
me a roster, Give me a roster,

591
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.360
aking coach, give me a roster, give me give me ten guys,

592
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:07.519
give me thirteen guys. And I
think, you know, I think

593
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.280
Mike Budenholzer has shown that everywhere in
his career. I mean, he made

594
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.239
an Eastern Conference Finals with Atlanta,
and Atlanta team that wasn't very good and

595
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.559
obviously they got you know, smoked
by a Lebron James team, but you

596
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.519
know, the wanted the NBA title
in Milwaukee and won four straight games against

597
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.639
the Suns in the NBA Finals.
He he has connections to Tucson. I'm

598
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.119
sure you're aware. He came to
Loot's camps a number of times, helped

599
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.039
Loot camp. Back then, he
was just the dude from Holbrook, Arizona,

600
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.679
yep. And you know, learning
from things back way back in the

601
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.440
day. And now he's this guy
right now, he's an NBA champion head

602
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.199
coach. It's coming with a big
task on his shoulders too. And Dwayne

603
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:50.199
made a very good point that if
things don't work it's not really going to

604
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.119
be late at the feet at the
starts. It's going to be late at

605
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.880
the feet of the coach because that's
the precedent that Matt Isshbia has set.

606
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.880
Sure. Sure, and you have
three guys that you think would be able

607
00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:05.639
to hold fort with their talents right
now, whether the issues are between them?

608
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.599
Who knows? And maybe it is
and nobody's written it or what did

609
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:14.079
I say before thee the show started? There's more to the story. There's

610
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:15.239
always more to the story. There's
more of the story, and that could

611
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.559
be an issue, and it's our
job to find it. It's our job

612
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.480
to talk about it. True,
that's what I love about it. Then

613
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.719
excuse me. The thing about is
when no one talks about it, no

614
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.880
one talks about it, right,
right, But there was more of the

615
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.480
story. I mean, even recapping
this year here in Tucson, there was

616
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:36.519
more of the story when Jedfish did
not get his contract extension and that was

617
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.679
a really interesting time when it came
to the budget deficit and everybody kind of

618
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:46.039
casting blame around that contract extension.
Oh, we gotta wait for the border

619
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:51.199
regions getting in February. Everything like
that. But the bottom line was fish

620
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.199
left right. And the roster still
looks pretty darn good for next year.

621
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.960
And I would say Arizona has a
much higher projection than Washington in twenty twenty

622
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:04.000
four. Yeah, no, in
terms of winning and to successful winning their

623
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.360
conference. I mean, Washington's not
winning the Big ten. I think I

624
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:07.960
don't know if I'm breaking any news
here, but Washington's not winning this Big

625
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:13.320
ten. No. And I think
those in the majority, when already should

626
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:19.280
thank Jed for moving it forward exactly
and he did it greatly, and they'll

627
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.400
they'll live off this for a while, or they should. If they don't,

628
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.840
then you're in trouble. But it's
different between living off of it and

629
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.320
catalyzing it. And I think that's
what this staff needs to do. And

630
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:30.719
I think he brought in a lot
of good assistant coaches. I think,

631
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.159
do you know, Babers is a
good fit after being a head coach for

632
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.880
so long. Now The offensive coordinator
here, Alonso Carter, the running backs

633
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.079
coach is you know, recruiting his
butt off and doing extremely well. You

634
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.880
know, they got the admissions thing
figured out with their likely starting running back

635
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.360
to Corey Krosky, Merrit transferring in
for New Mexico. They got a deep

636
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.679
running back room, and the biggest
thing is in college football and in pro

637
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:58.440
football, what have you? You
got? The quarterback is the leader in

638
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.880
that locker room and step into his
first full offseason as the starting quarterback.

639
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.320
I think he's worn that tag extremely
well. You can't you can't afford injuries.

640
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.599
They can't afford that, obviously.
And if they do well early,

641
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.599
you know, win the first two
and play Kansas City, well, maybe

642
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:17.880
win that one. This town will
be a football town again, at least

643
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.440
for a moment. Can you imagine
that weekend of September twenty first, if

644
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.239
they go out to Kansas State,
which is a tough place to win.

645
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:28.079
You know, I'm a guy who
grew up on the old Big twelve,

646
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.559
so that was blown up in the
twenty tens, but Kansas State is a

647
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.320
notoriously tough place to win. They've
got a star quarterback that he was a

648
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.639
four or five star freshman last year
in Avery Johnson, and he's gonna be

649
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.840
a really good matchup for Arizona.
That's a non conference game, so it

650
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.400
doesn't hurt you in the conference standings, But can you imagine if Arizona goes

651
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:53.599
in on national TV on Fox in
a primetime game and goes into Kansas State

652
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:58.199
and wins that against a likely ranked
team. I mean, you're talking about

653
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.440
that bye week on September twenty first. That's a lot of optimism for two

654
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:06.079
weeks heading into the conference opener at
a Utah team who will be predicted to

655
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.760
win this conference this next year.
Yeah. Right, No, it should

656
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:12.920
be fun. Should be fun early
part of the year, and and it'll

657
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.960
establish some kind of momentum. I
hate I'm not even to use that word.

658
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:20.000
It's not established some hope. Okay. I gotta push back on you

659
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.400
on this though. They when they
won the seven straight games to finish at

660
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.239
the end of the year. I
know you're not a big momentum guy.

661
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.719
Yeah, but once they won that
once they pulled that first upset and that

662
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:34.159
second upset, I'm talking about football. When once they won that second game,

663
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.719
it just felt like the ball was
rolling downhill. Well, there's a

664
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.679
certain point and if you're trying to
pin me in a corner, which you

665
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:45.360
just did, when it gets to
a certain point, I like to call

666
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:52.679
it runs momentum. Momentum defining the
dictionary is more uh static it's it's the

667
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.679
kinetic, connectic energy momentum. I
get it because there's really no other word

668
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.199
to use except for runs. They
went on a run. You could see

669
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.760
that the confidence was building. It
was and it was behind the quarterback.

670
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.960
And we talked about this. Did
you pay attention to the Stanford game?

671
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.920
Oh yeah, okay, so uh
Fafida comes in late in the game,

672
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.239
gets hurt down exactly exactly. Did
you sense, and we've talked about this

673
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:21.400
home up that when Delora came in, that the team had a sense of

674
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.840
Okay, here we go. It
feels a little different energy. Yeah.

675
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:29.079
I think it was that, and
I think it was especially late in that

676
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.639
game, them finding a little rhythm, them finding what they were able to

677
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.480
do well, him spreading the ball
out extremely well. Now they came back

678
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:38.039
and beat a team that they were
better than. That. Arizona was better

679
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.639
than Stanford and they should have never
been down in the first place. Exactly.

680
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.920
But the following week you see them
go toe to toe with a Washington

681
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.119
team that played for the national championship. Yeah, and they were They made

682
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.880
mistake. Arizona made a lot of
mistakes in that game. In late September

683
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.360
against Washington, but they went toe
to toe with them, and even going

684
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.480
down fourteen and seventeen in that game, they came back, they made it

685
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.480
a one score game, and they
completely outplayed USC on the road the next

686
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.559
week and lost an overtime. Well
my point, my point with this is

687
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.440
that's kind of when it started,
and that's to your point momentum, to

688
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:15.679
my where the run started, because
it was a different feeling behind a different

689
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.400
quarterback, and it felt like different
play calling too, probably less crazy,

690
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:24.960
less sub more to his his talent, somebody that somebody like Jetfish who's cut

691
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:29.079
his teeth in the NFL and he's
been around a lot of high level NFL

692
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.239
play callers. You if you get
Jetfish, or if you get a play

693
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:37.920
caller of that caliber and that background
in their rhythm, in their bag,

694
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.880
as the kids like to say,
if you get him in that mode,

695
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.199
Oh yeah, well you know,
I'm not gen Z. I identify with

696
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:51.159
the millennials. But the if you
get a play caller like that in a

697
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:55.719
rhythm, then it starts to become
Oh, this run works, this passworks,

698
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:59.440
this screen passwords. We're taking a
deep shot here and it may be

699
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.239
complete, it may not, but
it loosened the defense up exactly the way

700
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:07.000
we wanted to, and then everything
sort of becomes that domino effect where the

701
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.000
play color is in the mode and
an eight play drive feels like a blink

702
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:14.239
of an eye because every single play
worked, or seven of the eight plays

703
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.519
worked. So to go back to
the momentum issue with you, I'm more

704
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:21.119
of a every game is a season
type of thing where Okay, you win

705
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.280
Saturday, the game is over,
that season's over. We got to move

706
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.880
on to the next game, and
they're all piled up each week or each

707
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:31.079
game football, because you have so
many individual chess pieces in those games,

708
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:35.119
just like roulette, where you go
on the streaks obviously and you pick the

709
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.559
right numbers or whatever. But every
ball roll is different than the previous ball

710
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:42.400
roll, right, So, yes, you go on a momentum or you

711
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.960
win. To me, it's a
run. So the word momentum is I

712
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.639
have a difficult time with it.
Yeah, And I think but a lot

713
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:52.280
of that offense, a lot of
what changed with the offense during that Stanford

714
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.079
game, during maybe the second half
of that Washington game, the USC game

715
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.159
they should have won, and the
win streak to end the season, I

716
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:06.159
think a lot of that boiled down
to things working behind the quarterback, and

717
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.360
I was encouraged that they brought back
so many good pieces on the offensive line.

718
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:14.119
Obviously losing a first round draft talent
in Jordan Morgan who's now with the

719
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.880
Green Bay Packers. I think that's
gonna hurt a little bit of the running

720
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.079
back they lost to Washington, right
right, But they had to rebuild the

721
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:22.800
running back room as it was,
even you know, losing Michael Wiley,

722
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:27.239
losing DJ Williams, you know,
Jonah Coleman with the transfer to Washington,

723
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.760
one of their running back recruits also
transferred to Washington. But they rebuilt the

724
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.440
running back room. You still have
Racheon Speedy Luke there, and I think

725
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.679
that you have an offensive line that
is adept at pass protection, and they're

726
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.239
going to use a lot of screen
passes, a lot of those types of

727
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.840
plays. The tight ends a lot
to set up the run game and not

728
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.199
maybe take the run game to something
somewhere where it's carrying as much of a

729
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.760
load as maybe Jonah Coleman and Michael
Wiley did last year. Yeah, we'll

730
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:57.239
see, there's a lot of potential. I hope for their sake that they

731
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:01.719
do really well because Tucson deserves a
consistent winner. They haven't had that in

732
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.480
a while, even in the nineties
when Dick tell me was doing it.

733
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.760
It was it was when when when
lose, lose Strangely, lou when you

734
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:15.119
know it wasn't it wasn't consistent enough, the momentum wasn't there. If you

735
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:19.400
will, it's also sustainable, you
know very much, Yeah, very much

736
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.039
so, because they have a lot
of the principles back they do. They

737
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.599
do, but things have changed now
that's a Big twelve. But but but

738
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:29.280
I don't know if you feel this
way. It's a perfect spot for Arizona

739
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.159
overall because it's easier to play in
the Big It'll be easier to play in

740
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:37.440
the Big Twelve than it has been
in the Pac twelve. Given you're not

741
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.199
gonna beat Oregon consistently, you're not
gonna be usc consistently, and some of

742
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.840
other teams where you have a chance
against the group, not with Texas and

743
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:51.480
Oklahoma, especially especially because you had
a conference like the Pac twelve was last

744
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:53.840
year with the best quarterback play in
the entire nation. And so when you

745
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:58.960
are going through every single week and
you've got okay We've got Michael Pennix one

746
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:00.800
week, all right, then we
got Kaylei Williams the next week, all

747
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.920
right, We've got cam Ward the
next week it was the highest valued player

748
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.480
in the transfer portal. And then
the following week back here, you know,

749
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.360
you had dj U Jungalo for Oregon
State. I mean just quarterback after

750
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.760
quarterback and then going on the road
and beating Shador Sanders in Colorado. I

751
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.000
mean, that was a conference that
was a bear last year, and you're

752
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.800
not seeing that in the Big Twelve
this next year. I mean, Jalen

753
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.880
Daniels, great player, Cam Rising
comes back for Utah. You know,

754
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:29.159
You've got a couple guys like the
West Virginia quarterback, the Texas Tech quarterback

755
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:30.960
who are also pretty good. But
I think Noah's right up there at the

756
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:35.880
top of the conference. And if
Dwayna Keena can get this defense figured out

757
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:37.760
dialed in, I think they've got
a real chance to make noise in this

758
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.960
league. Yeah, no, no
question. And by noise you're talking top

759
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.880
two, top three for sure,
absolutely contending for a playoff every year in

760
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:51.159
this new forma maybe win it all, which would be incredible. Fantastic is

761
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.880
the word. I tried wanted to
use we'll see. I mean, it's

762
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:58.079
what is it? Lead me?
It's right now, we're talking ball.

763
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:04.239
We've been talked to in October when
there's a chance or if they don't because

764
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.880
historically, historically, I don't know
if you know this, these these high

765
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.800
hopes that they have the year before
comes falling with a big thud, unexplainably,

766
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.039
but it happens. I know I'm
the Debbie downer of this group,

767
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:20.679
but it happened with the Khalils teams, you know, and that was I

768
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.079
think frustrating, all this hope and
then it turned out to be nothing.

769
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.639
But I think Brent Brennan has taken
the right approach and he's uh, he's

770
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.280
put his arms around this team and
now we'll see if he can put together

771
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.880
a game plan to go win this
big time. And I think he's the

772
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:38.320
perfect coach at this moment because Jed
was a little out there in terms of

773
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:43.159
public or whatever, and Brennan is
too. But his his temperament is perfect

774
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.679
where he's not He's not a famboyant
guy. Hey look at me, you

775
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:52.719
look at me. He's just a
minus business keep his head forward and a

776
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:54.280
normal dude. Yeah, and if
you watch this cluss from San Jose State,

777
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:59.039
he's an intense dude. So it's
not just it's not just the nice

778
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.679
guy that you see in the He's
an intense guy. And I think his

779
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:07.400
love for football, his love already
for these players, and him inspiring that

780
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.679
love of football and that commitment every
day that can go a long way.

781
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:14.440
Whether your ex'es and o's are superior
like a Jedfish team would, or whether

782
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.199
it's just or whether it's just as
it is. I think it'll be a

783
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.920
fun year to watch. Thank you
Matt for joining me for the last couple

784
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:23.519
of days, and enjoy your weekend
and maybe we'll talk next week. You've

785
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:25.880
got great Thank you, Brian,
thank you.