WEBVTT 1 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:32.400 Tonight's guest is Mick. Mick, welcome to the show. Thanks Weick, 2 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:34.599 thanks for having me, well, thanks for coming on. We appreciate your 3 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:42.159 time. Mick. Please give us a brief bio on yourself and my party 4 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:48.400 eight. You're old man, three lovely children. Obviously, I'm orrishing understand 5 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:57.280 by me the accent and motorcycle freak, and I open construction and I'm happily 6 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.599 married usuppose that's about it. Well, that's great. Yeah, it sounds 7 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:06.000 like you've carved out a great life for yourself. And dude to something I 8 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:08.159 heard you say in your bio, I've got to ask you who makes the 9 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:14.680 best bike, Mick, and it has to be the Japanese has to be 10 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:19.719 Honda. Honda people say, the most expensive one you're going to go for 11 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.120 the Italian months, but for reliability and practicality has to be the Japanese. 12 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:29.120 So you're a Honda man. What's your dream bike if money wasn't an issue? 13 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:38.000 And BMWHP four race model, it's a sixty two thousand euros which is 14 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.800 probably about I don't know, fifty thousand dollars and it's basically a Molo GP 15 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.919 bike, but a registration play on it. It's built for the tracks, 16 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.919 but you can use on the roads, and there's a limited division on them. 17 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:51.879 That's there's only one hundred of mate or a thousand of mate or something. 18 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:53.560 You have to be picked by Actually BMW did actually boil when you can't 19 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.039 just don't boy, when you have to actually be picked by them the boy. 20 00:02:57.319 --> 00:03:01.199 So I can't see it happening to me anytime soon. H Well maybe 21 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:05.360 not, but it sure would be nice, wouldn't it. Yeah, of 22 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.599 course it would be. We all need dreams. Except that price tag. 23 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:13.759 That's pretty ugly. But that's the only ugly thing about that bike. Yeah, 24 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:17.560 yeah, yeah, no doubt. Mick. You flew to Slovakia in 25 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:21.680 two thousand and four for a wedding and wound up having a dog MEI an 26 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:25.319 encounter there. For the listeners who don't know anything about Slovakia, what can 27 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:30.120 you tell us about it? It used to be part of Czechoslovakia, the 28 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:36.039 old part that was part of the USSR before all the breakaway countries happened in 29 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:40.759 the unities. Slovakia, it's loady country. The reason why I got there 30 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:46.680 was in the early two thousands, maybe two thousand two. There was a 31 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:52.039 big construction bilm here in Ireland, and of course a lot of a lot 32 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.199 of the jobs had to be filled by any kind of nationality, and we 33 00:03:55.240 --> 00:04:00.479 had a big, huge influx of Eastern Europeans coming here and Polish, Romanians, 34 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:04.479 Slovakians, and that's how I got to notice Chap and that's how I 35 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.680 got to be friendly with him, and that's how I got invoided to this 36 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:11.360 wedding. When you found out that you're going to be going there for his 37 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:15.800 wedding, were you excited about the trip or dreading it? Oh? No, 38 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.360 excited of course because it was a weekend away with the boys basically, 39 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:25.319 and it was just gang of Woko has been to a country I've never been 40 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.160 being too before. I traveled a lot of being to the States, a 41 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.360 few times of being to South America as well as part of the North, 42 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:36.360 and I've always looked traveling and it was a country of I actually googled a 43 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.759 lot about it before I went, and it looked lovely. It looks really 44 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:43.959 nearly nice. Of course, it's a breakaway from the family, you know, 45 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.680 I'll breaking out the boys, and it was a wedding as well. 46 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:48.399 It was a happy occasion, So yeah, I was looking well forward to 47 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:54.519 it. I didn't out that way though, Yeah, unfortunately it didn't. 48 00:04:55.519 --> 00:05:00.000 What part of Slovakia did your encounter happened then? And it was out about 49 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:05.800 one hundred kilometers west of a town called Kosha Kasita would be a big wouldn't 50 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:08.800 be a city, but it wouldn't be a village to be a big town, 51 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:13.160 and we were we were about seventy kilometers outside that. We were in 52 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.120 like a really really really small village. It's kind of a place where if 53 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.959 you blink on the train you'd miss it, you know. It was just 54 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:27.839 two hotels, post office, a couple of bars, supermarket, two main 55 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.920 roads and that was it. Like it's just it's really a middle of Norway 56 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:34.319 job. But it was still nice and peaceful at the same time. Oh, 57 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:38.959 I'm sure it was. Yeah, there's small villages like that over there. 58 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:43.199 There's just something special about them in my opinion. Yeah, this bit 59 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:45.959 has made his own cheese and everything else and made his own wine and it 60 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.920 was just so self sufficient. But a lot of unemployment as well, so 61 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:53.040 maybe you have to do that for themselves. I'm not too sure, but 62 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.480 really really lovely country. It just it just falls short on the employment, 63 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.240 so either yeah, it does sound like a well place, definitely, except 64 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:05.240 for the unemployment. Like zaid, if you'd like to be able to listen 65 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:10.240 to the show without ads and have full access to bonus content, that's an 66 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:15.720 option to find out how, please go to dog Mean Encounters dot com Forward 67 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:20.079 slash podcast. To this day, all these years later, you still get 68 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:24.399 wound up when you think about what happened to you there. What kinds of 69 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:28.000 effects have you been dealing with because of what that dog men did to you? 70 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:30.879 At the start, when I first come back, I thought I was 71 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.120 dousing my mind. I thought it was like, really lose my mind because, 72 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.879 as I said to you before, the only person I really told was 73 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:46.040 my partner and my best friend and yourself, and I told me what before, 74 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.639 Yeah, I think it's held. And they didn't know how to take 75 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:51.120 it at all because they didn't ever heard of it talking about and needed to 76 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:55.560 do it until I actually had to look it open, until I actually seen 77 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:00.240 drawings of what people have seen before, and I realized that depending drop as 78 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.279 we say, he realized what what I saw because the fields was feeling it 79 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.480 was first of all, I was losing I thought I was losing it because 80 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:11.160 nobody could everyone's laughing. Well, the people I told were just laughing and 81 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.959 thought I was on some sort of rook or some whatever else are I was 82 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:20.680 smoking something funny, And the fields I had were especially when someone laughs, 83 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:26.160 So it's hopefully it was. It was kind of hurt if someone, you 84 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:28.120 know, when somebody you cared about, laughs back at you when you're being, 85 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:30.240 when you're being, when you're trying to have an honest moment with them 86 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:35.680 in swful and then if you tell someone that kind of half believes you, 87 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.399 you kind of feel as if they're agreement you just just for the sake of 88 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.680 your own mind, you just to just to make you feel better. But 89 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.399 the fields always have was a paranoia I was used, but you could you 90 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:50.120 could say panic attacks, but anxiety was up the wall every time it meant 91 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:55.839 to My mind was up the wall. Sleepless nights, sweats, couldn't even 92 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.399 go nearar dogs for a while. I don't know what that was. It 93 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.040 just it just didn't like any kind of for a legged animal or any kind 94 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.519 of food her animal. For a little while after, but it just felt 95 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.000 alone for a long time because especially as I said it before, on this 96 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:13.600 side of the world, we have the mid of the Banshee and lepre cons 97 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:18.079 and everything else, the whole thing that goes with being owners. But someone 98 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.040 says, dog Man, you didn't know what you're talking about. Well, 99 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:24.839 that doesn't come as a surprise no matter where you go. For the most 100 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.079 part, people aren't going to know anything about dog Man. I just hate 101 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.039 to hear they had so much trouble finding any support after having that experience, 102 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:35.639 especially with it being as traumatic as it was. Yeah, that's just not 103 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.159 good. That's when I reached out to you back. And I think it 104 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:43.679 was twenty fifteen when I actually pushed contact to Joe, because I was following 105 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.039 your podcast and it's just these people and this chap because I listened to a 106 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.440 lot of encounters and every one of them rang true and hit home me so 107 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.879 and it's like kind of charrapy every Friday, listened to you know, every 108 00:08:54.919 --> 00:09:00.679 Saturday. And that's when I decided to contact you because I knew wasn't just 109 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:03.840 some podcasts, let's be honest, back in the day, some podcast with 110 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:09.200 a joke and the ones that I listened to now and your podcast Jill and 111 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:16.480 good under helping people. That's what I'm so glad you did. And believe 112 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.080 it or not, I still remember that conversation we had back in twenty fifteen 113 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.240 about your encounter. There's just something about how creepy that encounter was due to 114 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:31.799 where it happened in that ancient forest, something about how the dog men behaved, 115 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.279 what it did to you. It stuck out of my mind all these 116 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:39.960 years. And when you reached out to me recently and asked if I remembered 117 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:43.600 that conversation with you, I was pretty sure you thought I wouldn't remember you. 118 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.440 But yeah, like I said, I definitely did. Yeah. And 119 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.440 that's the point I was thinking, because it was in this foreign country, 120 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.840 and I was convincing myself that these were like a part of the like over 121 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:00.399 in certain countries, do you have joint sheep over here we have joined and 122 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.759 Friesian cows and Scottish cows. And I was trying to convince myself that it's 123 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.519 just a it's just a Slovakian dog. You must be everywhere. Yeah, 124 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:13.000 that was just a madness trying to make you feel better. Oh sure, 125 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.799 Yeah, you're going to do all kinds of strange things, try and compensate 126 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.759 with an experience as traumatic as that one. But at least you know it 127 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:26.600 definitely wasn't some kind of Slovakian dog you encounter that day. Definitely, Yeah, 128 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:28.360 it would have been nice if that's what it was, though. M 129 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.320 all right, Mick, please tell us about that encounter. Now, give 130 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.440 us every last details that comes to mind. I suppose I'll sarden like before, 131 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.919 really, because the day before this happened was the actual the day the 132 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:48.200 wedding that we went over to part always suppose, and that I was getting 133 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.879 married. His name is Radoslav, we call him Raddo, and it was 134 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.559 his hometown. And over there you needed usual even because as I said, 135 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.720 it's just in such an outaway place we need to sels to get around. 136 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:03.480 So of course I put my hand up and I hired the car because I 137 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:09.080 was the only woman of Sufficients European license. And the course we drove to 138 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:15.559 the chapel and over there they have a two chapel. Wedding was ones the 139 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.559 wedding and the next one's kind of a blessing. The mother and the bather 140 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:24.000 of the bride had to be involved in the first. It's really, it's 141 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.080 really it's not like a eventual weddings. After the wedding, we went back 142 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:33.799 to the the hotel that was doing the field, and the machine they give 143 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:35.759 them was party and good time and everything else. But I had the car 144 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.879 me, so I decided not to drink. Prep I was gonna have a 145 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:41.200 drink, i'd have to leave the car there, and I didn't fancy leaving 146 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:46.720 the car somewhere where it wasn't really sure of in case because I wasn't being 147 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:52.759 paid through the nose for insurance of any damage happened to it. So at 148 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.440 the end of the night, I decided and say, okay, I'll have 149 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.480 two beers. I was just sitting there watching everyone drink. I was just 150 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.720 killing me. So I had a lot of food, had two beers, 151 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.559 and had another beer and another beer, so had four beers altogether, because 152 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.919 I know exactly how the many I had. But over there you had it's 153 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:15.720 like it's called a wheat beer. It's like a cloudy it's like a bud 154 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:20.399 Wiser, but you can't see true it's it's really cloudy, and it's really 155 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.320 it gives you an awful headache. Because the next morning I went up, 156 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.080 it wasn't wasn't drunk or anything. You remember going home, left the car 157 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.120 there, walked on. We're being put up in the little B and B, 158 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:35.879 and the four of us went to the B and B, and I 159 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.480 was of Furst. Went awake the next morning, and it was it was 160 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:43.960 a beautiful morning sunshine. We woke up with actual a rooster in the back 161 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:50.279 garden acrown, and so I died to go for strow, just to it 162 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.320 might be sitting there listen to three three grown men snorting in the room. 163 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.440 So I decided to get up and b and see the place before we flew 164 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:01.240 back home the next day. It wasn't much see Lesbions was only a small 165 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:07.799 little village. So went for stroll and who old this place is? The 166 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:13.279 roads are cobblestone, like the old cobbles that we'd have in a whole team 167 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:18.200 eighteen hundreds of London or something. There's cobblestones. You wouldn't see a car 168 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:22.799 for ten minutes maybe more, and you see maybe one or two cars from 169 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.559 the place of an hour. So I was walking and I wasn't watching where 170 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.039 I was walking. There's just there's only one small attle road that leaves the 171 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:31.639 town and the same road comes into it and goes out to the car. 172 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.960 So it was just the one one road in and out of the small village. 173 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:41.440 So I was walking for about maybe twenty twenty minutes a half an hour. 174 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.320 I couldn't get lost because there's only one road. You can just come 175 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:50.960 back around back the way. So I wasn't word do with that and being 176 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.720 he was. So it's just reminded me of we have got the Transylvanian movie. 177 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:58.039 You know, it's a cliche, but that's what it reminded me of. 178 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.600 And it was sunny. It wasn't even darker, was just that's how 179 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.440 it looked in the sunshine. I was thinking himself, help would look on 180 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.159 a dark with a wet day, And but it was lovely at the same 181 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:15.879 time, really beautiful country. And this robber started to get really really bad 182 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.159 and it was just covering dog horspital. A lot of people are using the 183 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:24.480 horse and carts. But decided to go off off the road to the left 184 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:31.080 and you could see walking trails into this small look like a forest. That's 185 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.000 that the very start. It look like just like you'd see in a walking 186 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:37.759 like a walking trail. So it took this trail and was well beaten. 187 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:41.159 So it was well he used. And there's a couple of other trails gone 188 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:46.919 different directions, but it just just almost gone uphill and the sea at the 189 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.600 very top. But before I actually started to walk, there's a little information. 190 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.399 Then I had them over in the States. It's like before he started 191 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.240 trail. As an information, it feel like a hard plastic and to be 192 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:03.240 leaflet, I need to laminate it and so you can read it. It 193 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.320 tells you where to try to bring you in. And you know because I 194 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.799 immediately castle on the grounds. But I thought the castle was on the very 195 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.840 top of this hill. So I said, right, I'll trying to find 196 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.000 it. If not, at least get out for a bit of fresh air 197 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:22.879 in the walk. So I followed this trail and it must be about ten 198 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:24.960 minutes. It wasn't that far off the road. That's why I can't get 199 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.840 over the audacity of this. It was just so it wasn't even in the 200 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:30.639 middle of nowhere. It was way off a little road where people come and 201 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:35.720 go. So these things aren't afraid of human beings at all. So about 202 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:37.720 ten minutes ago, boy maybe feel I'm not too sure what how the time 203 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.799 went, because it was just being myself and just walking. I wasn't looking 204 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:46.759 at the watch of anything. There no pleasure, So walking along and the 205 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.279 trees start getting mark the answer like there was a sporadic tree that the very 206 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.919 start with a notice. As I was going on the trail, I would 207 00:15:54.919 --> 00:16:00.960 have to reroute my walk as it be would be in a way and the 208 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:04.200 episode I keep walking stepisode it wouldn't be a straight line, but there was 209 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:11.960 a lot more condense trees come out and I'm gonna realize that the trail I 210 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.279 was on it was kind of worn away. There was there was no trail 211 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:18.120 I was on it. So it was like, right, I'm definitely off 212 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:21.720 the beaten path, but it was still so must coming through the trees and 213 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:25.960 still nothing to to bother me. It wasn't gonna get lost, but don't 214 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:27.600 get get lost at all, and impossible to get lost all up hill, 215 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:33.840 just go downhill. And then in my periphealin, this is where I starts, 216 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.360 I might start losing me breath a little bit. This is where I 217 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:45.320 starts coming back on my peripheral vision on my right hand side, I just 218 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:52.080 saw dark, dark mass, not not move enough, not flow across my 219 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.080 my line and side just just a dark mass. But I looked over and 220 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.159 it was just it was just a large three, just a really really really 221 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.559 large three. But it was really really dead. And I never forget the 222 00:17:03.640 --> 00:17:08.079 mushrooms going off. The mushrooms were just so big and they were like, 223 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.039 I never I never seen mushrooms is big my life going off the side of 224 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.359 this black tree. But there was a bush coming off, so it was 225 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.720 like what the he just called it in the States, tickets is what you 226 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.440 call it. Ticket. It was like a bush coming off the tree as 227 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:27.319 well, like there's a tree and a bush maybe fifteen feet sixteen feet, 228 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:32.920 but there's no it wasn't buried. It was look like thorns and brambles and 229 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:37.200 all sorts of the nasty s. So that kind of kept me on the 230 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.279 subject. You that was on because I wasn't going to walk them through that 231 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:45.720 stuff, so keep going. So it kept me moving a few more steps, 232 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:52.039 and it just kept something kept saying to me there's something over there having 233 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:53.319 on the roup and then making my brain told me I don't know. But 234 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:59.279 looked over and it was again looding. There was the dark tree. But 235 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:03.400 I realized my whole old the forest had gone from the new baby trees that 236 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.359 I walked in on at the very started the trail. This stuff was really 237 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:12.240 old, was m there's kind of moss drawing off them, huge big trees, 238 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:17.559 like really they're talking six feet span and the wit that's huge for us 239 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:26.720 in this country. Kept walking another maybe forty yards fifty yards, and I 240 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:32.000 thought I was saying things. I looked over to Morrown's side again, and 241 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:37.440 I was probably parallel with this, the end of the ticket, at the 242 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:38.640 end of the bush, at the bush, as I would say, over 243 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:48.279 here the bush ended, and just yeah, how much? Who just head? 244 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.960 It was just just peeking around the side of the tree. And I 245 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:55.279 looked once, and I looked back down again, and I looked again, 246 00:18:55.880 --> 00:19:00.160 and I wasn't there. I set myself up and I seeing things are just 247 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.319 really happen. Then I started getting the heart start really going because I was 248 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.279 really starting to preak myself out. And he said, no, you're just 249 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.079 you're just in. You're just in an alien place. You don't know where, 250 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:14.680 you don't have to name the place. It's like this, man, 251 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.799 it's just your mind playing tricks. And as soon as I had looked down 252 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:22.680 on my shoelaces were I always look at my shoes and when I'm walking, 253 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.079 I don't know what it is. They also looking at my feet. I 254 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.720 never look ahead and never look up. I was going at my feever and 255 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:32.880 put my feet and this place was so old the roots were coming up through 256 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.039 the ground and going back down instagramd. So that's one reason I was what 257 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:41.319 was watching Mars done? As soon I looked up again and I looked over 258 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:48.960 and it was it was, yeah, the dog man sticking his head around 259 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:52.480 the side of the tree. And I didn't know at this age of the 260 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.079 game, I didn't know what the dog man was. The first thing come 261 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:00.599 into my head was that's where I will if you look at the TV perceptions 262 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:06.119 of where he post, That's what I was seeing. It had. Of 263 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:10.279 course, it just took stuck his head around the three and it had this 264 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:17.519 look um this day, where are I shouldn't be here? Or as if 265 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:21.720 I'm I'm walking in on something I shouldn't see. That's the feeling I got. 266 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:32.160 And it moved in, it shot in, it flicked in a flash 267 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:33.720 that it was so super you know, I'm not going to use this word, 268 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:37.519 but I I shouldn't really use. It's so supernatural helm with how fast 269 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:41.920 they can knew because it moved from the tree that or the push the tree 270 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.200 that was standing behind, to the tree in front of me without me even 271 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.079 seeing its body. It was like a flash and it was wait in front 272 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.480 of me. I can't tell you what that body looked like until it got 273 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.279 to the tree in front of me. That too fast and knew and that's 274 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:00.960 when it shelled more of itself to me. And I just couldn't believe what 275 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:07.440 I was saying. There was the ears were like no these fighting dogs. 276 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.559 I don't know if that any pit bulls are or massives. I'm not to 277 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.160 show, but it had the ears you would see when the crops when when 278 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:17.480 he put their ears, they were like that. They were sticking up really 279 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:21.279 as if they didn't need any kind of you see some dogs. But when 280 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:23.119 he raised our ears and energy lowered our ears, this thing, this thing 281 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.680 had his ears up all the time as if they were on the stencils. 282 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:30.880 They didn't need to didn't need any muscles to stick them up. He didn't 283 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.839 get these other things coming through their ears. It was like a little tufts 284 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:41.200 like a three leaf clover tought the pair extending off them, and it had 285 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.400 a face like I'm not going to say like an alsay. I had a 286 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.200 snout like an Alsatian, but it was much around muzzle as you say, 287 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:56.039 but it was much shorter and stumpier, maybe like a hyaena. Its head 288 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:59.519 was massively. It was the size of yeah, it must be the size 289 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:00.920 of my coffee table here the head and the wits. It was about maybe 290 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:04.799 three feet three now wouldn't yeah, maybe two yeah, three feet two feet 291 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:11.680 maybe you joined beach ball head. But it wasn't circular. It was triangular 292 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:22.440 in shape. The snout had gray or siever short hairs going from this fund 293 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.160 and I was back to the cheeks where the cheek would be in the cheeks, 294 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.559 but it would change color from gray into a brownish black. It had 295 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:40.519 eyes that were like an emerald emerald kind of sky blue in the sky blue 296 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:44.359 kind of but you went all blue. They had a black, real black 297 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:49.519 Pierson puple. It had like a rump at the back of its back of 298 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:55.279 its head that it's like joint be as if I had a hoodie on, 299 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:56.400 but it was had the hoodie tuck in at the back of its neck. 300 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:03.440 It was like a huge beat musle at it. And then it totally showed 301 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.119 me a wold self. It step took one step out and looked at me 302 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.599 as if and when he stepped out, and I looked him from the waist 303 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.319 up so they mightn't want to take me always up the actual parts that were 304 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.440 moving as in his head. He gave me this kind of look as if. 305 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:27.400 Hum it was like he smiled at me. I know it's a stupid 306 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:32.119 thing to say. Animals can smoil, but he's he's able. He was 307 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:37.480 smiling at me, and you messed up. That's the feeling I got up. 308 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:41.160 No, I have to show you. I have to teach your lessons. 309 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.039 That was that kind of lucky and really really sinister, and the black 310 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:52.279 pupils looking through me. But the worst was the width of his shoulders. 311 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.359 Who looked it looked as if it was someone had drawn him on a piece 312 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.119 of paper. It was comical how big he was. Both he wasn't overwhelmingly 313 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:07.480 overwhelmingly sorry getting a bit, I was starting a stammer a bit, because 314 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:11.039 a stammer when I get nervous. He wasn't overwhelming big as in height. 315 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:17.599 He must have been six foot six, maybe pushing seven feet. He wouldn't 316 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:22.640 be huge, but the shoulders are just unbelievable. He looked as if someone 317 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:26.440 had just drawn them on. They were so he looked comically. But I 318 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.440 don't know how. He just just going moved around of a column agoy whatever 319 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.680 he is. Maybe he got through the doorways. That's too wide he was. 320 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.359 He'd get trapped, gone through a door. But he'd tapered down so 321 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:42.720 quickly into his waist. His waist must have been he's tindered my waist, 322 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:48.720 Like yeah, he'd probably be tinted my waist. He'd paper down from three 323 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.200 three and a half feet wide at the top straight down into maybe twenty four 324 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:57.799 inch waist. It was crazy how he looked. But he had a twelve 325 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:04.680 pack most in the stomach, well uniform here maybe one and a half two 326 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:11.440 inches black coming in from his ribs, coming into an angle and meeting in 327 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.680 the middle of his chest like you see you see some men and going down 328 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:19.880 in uniform the uniform line into where where we have a belly button? Well, 329 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.799 I didn't see. He didn't have a bellbody, didn't see any belly 330 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.039 button. He was just covered in a uniform. Here to this belly button 331 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:30.519 area. He was a male one hundred scent. He was a male because 332 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:34.799 it was all there the show. But his hands and his arms were just 333 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:45.440 they were built for visceral chearing. And he could see how his hands were 334 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:49.880 ready. They were just killing, killing machines. He looked. It would 335 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:56.000 make Freddie Krueger look like a beast on the Sunday. That's how this this 336 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:03.359 shops. And they were like giants and raccoon hands. But he had these 337 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:11.319 massive, massive, black, guilty gone off yellow nails. Claws, yeah, 338 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.200 Morley claws at the ends of them. But they were just all broken 339 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:17.920 and shipped. But they were like you could see that they were taking off 340 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:22.039 a lot of damage to the man. Still they're still able to do the 341 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:30.599 business. Yeah, he was. He was just standing there and this smiled 342 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.559 the game. He was just and their teeth were like it was so white 343 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:40.799 and sharp. It looked as if somebody had I thought someone must have foiled 344 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:45.359 down his teeth in some sort of work room again, an engineer and foiled 345 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.839 his teeth and had them all picture perfect, and they were so white. 346 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.079 He looked at silver to me, looked as if they were silver. This 347 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.240 is all in the space of I don't know many seconds. I saw horrible. 348 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:03.440 That part was bad enough, But when he told when he had he 349 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:11.319 had one arm around the three, leaning out and shown me his his his 350 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:14.440 left on the right hand side of me, he was shown me. He 351 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.920 was shown me his left. Then when he totally came out and stood by 352 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.960 the three, that's when I just lost it. That's when I remember looking 353 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:26.680 up. I said, how's he? How's he gone so big? In 354 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.839 my own head? But I didn't realize that I had fallen down on my 355 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.200 backside in front of him. I don't know how. It must have been 356 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.759 money he stood out. I stepped back, ended up on my rear round 357 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:48.400 and that's when he pulled his so called force I call it. I call 358 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.319 it a dog's It was like a man's foot. But it was the nearest 359 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.880 thing I see it. It's just the luckily shade. The nearest thing I 360 00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:02.440 saw to it that luck resembles to it was the transformation on the eighties movie 361 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:07.960 American American London. If you see his foot when he changed in that girl's 362 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.640 house, when he was staying over, when that is what he had to 363 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.119 be, but it looked as if I only the front part that his foot 364 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:18.960 actually hit the ground. He stood on his toes and maybe a couple of 365 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.119 pads, and then the rest of his foot was elevated. But it wasn't. 366 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.079 It was just hovering above the ground, maybe on three or four inches 367 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:32.039 above and maybe two inch claws. I only saw four They just on this 368 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.039 foot. They only saw this foot close. Because the reason why I remember 369 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.000 it is when this is the part that really that I had, that I 370 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:42.240 had a trouble dealing with his He put his foot on top of my foot, 371 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:48.279 well his toe was touching my to more or less. He was looming 372 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:53.279 over me, standing over me with his those dog legs. What wasn't men's 373 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.440 legs it was it was the hawks as we called them over here. He 374 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:02.640 had dog hawks, the reverse dog. It just I said, what how 375 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.680 is this even real? How is this even happened? I thought it was 376 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:15.079 in a dream or so. I thought, this is a dead man. 377 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.759 He's gonna do what he does because June boy looks down clause he's been doing 378 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:23.799 it already. He learned over me, and I don't know what he was 379 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:30.519 doing, but he was looked to me as if pople smiled right dogs don't 380 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:36.960 smile. This looked to me as if it was more dog than man, 381 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.680 more animals than man, because the only thing that really was man about it 382 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:49.480 was his his torso was built. He was standing on to two feet two 383 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:57.440 two two two feet yeah, two two clods two ready heavy cloud feet and 384 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:03.039 he looming over me. And he must have been the or one and a 385 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.160 half he oh away from me body was, but his foot was out forward, 386 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.559 as if as if the pin wife to where it was, or maybe 387 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:17.240 to stop me from trying to get. But even if I had but just 388 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.759 jellify dog. Yeah, my heart start raising so much I couldn't catch a 389 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.440 breath. It was like, really, it's like real living the whole thing 390 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:33.640 again. What um, And this is only fifteen minutes away from away from 391 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:34.799 a roads, is this? This is not in the middle of nowhere. 392 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.960 This is but it's in the middle of nowhere, but there's still civilization, 393 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.599 there's there's still a lot going on around the area. It's how braising these 394 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.440 teams are. And it's only recently the real up learned that I thought mine 395 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.559 was just a one off, but um, yeah, he's looming over me, 396 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.519 and I thought this is this is very and it's kind of saying himself, 397 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.599 Look, I don't care if I don't feel. I don't mind if 398 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.119 I don't fee anything. I just don't want to be torn to pieces and 399 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:08.559 be able to feel every glow or rip or whatever. And he looked down 400 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.000 at me because I was looking up. He looked down on me as if 401 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.839 he was enjoying, as if he was getting pleasure from what he was doing 402 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.720 to me. And I was saying to myself, how was this even? 403 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.319 No one's gonna know this is real? And I will never be found. 404 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:27.640 No one's gonna put together that this animal come out of nowhere and took me 405 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.880 or killed me, or they're just gonna find me in pieces all over the 406 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:37.440 starts. That's the one thing I thought of as my family. And I'm 407 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.319 not going to get back from this country in pieces. Then it's just strange. 408 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.839 Things flash through your head on the stay and I remember closed me aways 409 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.480 and he looked as if he was gearing up to have a swing. They 410 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.960 let one rip, let one floy as we say, that was as as 411 00:31:55.039 --> 00:32:00.440 in give me a bang of his hand with all these clause and it and 412 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.200 it caused me always waiting for that blow, waiting for the bang, or 413 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:10.519 waiting for all some sort of the smell against the smell of it's just wing. 414 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.400 I closed me always there could smell. It was like a hot breath, 415 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.759 but it wasn't like hot breath that it was like a horse's hot breath. 416 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.440 If you ever smelled, it was like a sweet barley, but sweet 417 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.559 barley kind of smell. And I'm not too sure if that was his breath, 418 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:29.079 that that was an order coming off him, because it was pretty pungent 419 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.319 when they when the encounter happened, then it was gone to see owns. 420 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.440 It was over, So I'm not too sure of it. If the cousins 421 00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.240 that to him. I never closed me, always waiting for this the blow 422 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.480 to pump. This is it, this is it, this is it, 423 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:49.640 and nothing nothing for about five six seconds, I hope my eye. I 424 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:57.000 looked and he was two maybe three three is back still looking at me. 425 00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.559 But he able to treat it back to another tree behind that, and I 426 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.720 took my put my chances. They did jumped up on the people. It 427 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.559 didn't take me always up the hill. I was down down. It was 428 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.240 very steep, really impossible to walk backwards down it. But I kind of 429 00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.680 crawled down it kept my eye on him, and he was doing the same. 430 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:23.920 He was keeping going on me and retreat and retreat. And after maybe 431 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:30.440 twenty meters thirty meters of a gap, I turn't and I just booked it 432 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.119 because I put it down to the It didn't take me that long because it 433 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:37.640 wasn't that far away from the road. So I can't understand. These things 434 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:42.839 have no barriers. No, they've no they have not ill way to look 435 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.079 at somebody in the middle of the first and these things don't have produced it. 436 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:47.680 When they want to, they can do whatever they want, and I 437 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.160 don't get anything anyone can do him. I need to stop them because it 438 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:57.480 was only, as I said, a fifteen minutes walk from the Maine made 439 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.400 it the road into a small village. Although not being used that much the 440 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:07.119 road, it's still it's still civilization and buildings and goings on, people coming 441 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:14.440 and going. But yeah, that was more less it and coming back then 442 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.280 three boys were still asleep and I didn't I was crying. I didn't know 443 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:22.880 what to be doing with myselves. Just as well. It was Saturday morning 444 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:28.199 and nobody was out. I saying, it was just crazy man walking around 445 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.360 crying. I go straight back to the BnB, sat in the lobby. 446 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:38.639 I'm just didn't know what must have been even even snapped out of it. 447 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.880 One of the boys can go out from the room. Brian, it's just 448 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.039 an easing. You're only getting home now, No, because he was he 449 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:50.400 was pretty dumb right before he said Now, I came back at she was 450 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.239 last night, says we're awaiting for the walk, and he goes. He 451 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:58.639 looked like, and you know the you know the rest of it. I 452 00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:00.920 won't say any bad words on this. He said, you look like, 453 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:07.079 blah blah, you need to go and have a shower. I didn't know 454 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:12.880 the time that I you'renated all over myself listening to some of the stories your 455 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.400 podcast, not too too ashamed to join that up because I don't know it's 456 00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:22.960 say, it's the it's a normal person. But then coming back coming back 457 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:27.519 to land, then I just didn't know how to handle it, what to 458 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.400 do with it, where to put it, how do you put that into 459 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.400 a box, how do you deal with that? Whatever. The States, 460 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:40.400 it's kind of known sasquatch donn bla. It's kind of as a following over 461 00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:45.639 your country, but over here it's like people think, what are you talking 462 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:51.199 about? People have told I've told a couple of close people that I thought 463 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.599 I could really trust. One kind of laughed, And it's helpful when someone 464 00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.800 laughed at you, when when you're when you're opening up handling something seriously that's 465 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.159 bottom me, it's getting too you. And someone laughed, and I just 466 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:08.199 just learned then really quick not to say anything, just to try and put 467 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:14.119 a put the past or put it somewhere and just lock it away and not 468 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.800 say but that doesn't look as I said. You can talk them to make 469 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:23.440 it back in the two thousands fifteen once or twice since then, and this 470 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:28.239 is the only time where it could really get it together, just to give 471 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.280 a full recount of what happened, because the first time I tried to tell 472 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:37.000 him I could be a half by true and he's so good and the feeling 473 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:43.760 process, thank you for But it's it's a non going thing. It's no 474 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.719 way. It's not as if they can have a group over here in northern 475 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.000 where we can get together once a week can talk about her encounters, because 476 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.679 nobody in this country has anything like that. You don't have anything like that. 477 00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.440 I don't think we have any people close boy, or people who can 478 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:06.039 whatsapper text or give a quick ring too and talk to you about it, 479 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:13.039 because just simply don't exist. So that's spelled it more or less. After 480 00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:15.480 you made it back to the B and B after having such a traumatic experience, 481 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:21.239 was there any time from the moment you set foot in that B and 482 00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.360 b until the time you set foot on Ireland that you allowed yourself to be 483 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:29.840 alone? I was alone, and I suppose if you can, if you 484 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.800 can count it being alone. I was alone in the reception of the BnB 485 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.480 because there was a girl that used that walks on the help desk. She 486 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.880 comes and goes, but I was. There's a room after and that's where 487 00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:44.599 I went because it was a mess. Like as I said, I urinated 488 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.079 on myself and I'm sure my face was there was you know, what do 489 00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:51.440 you know when you cry and you're oping your I mean hands are toty from 490 00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.400 falling in the forest as well, So I'm sure I was. I was 491 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.679 just sorright to look at. But I was alone for the first straight away 492 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.920 afterwards, I was alone for about two hours. Well that had to be 493 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:05.679 difficult. Yeah, maybe that was about the worst thing I like, But 494 00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:07.159 I didn't want to go up in and make chaps up and tell them straight 495 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.280 away because I was still dealing it in my head. I was trying to 496 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:14.599 compute while it just happened. So hope, could I tell somebody else what 497 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.679 it just happened? And I didn't realize what happened to yourself? Oh sure, 498 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.360 yeah, you were just trying to put the pieces together. If you've 499 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.079 had a dog me an encounter would like to speak with me about it, 500 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:29.159 whether I'm private or on this show, please go to dog meant Encounters dot 501 00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.239 com and submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and would like 502 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.519 to be a guest on one of my two bigfoot shows, please go to 503 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.840 my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let me know. When you finally told your 504 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:47.599 mother about that experience. How did she respond? Oh, way, motor, 505 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.360 she's real Irish. She's a real Irish mother. If way to hold 506 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.079 her black was wait, she'd believe me. She doesn't no idea what a 507 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.920 cryptos is or that's why the most famous did this big foot or whatever. 508 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:05.400 That's probably as the longest history are more people talk about it. But she 509 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.760 wouldn't even know what big foot is. She's so she doesn't go on any 510 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:13.039 songs to social media, she doesn't help to even send an email. She's 511 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:17.440 really really all school. She doesn't even have my boy phone. She still 512 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.559 has the house phone. So that's what I love about her, because but 513 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.639 she she says, literally said to me listening, if it happened, if 514 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:29.400 it happens here, and that's what you say happened, that's what happens. 515 00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.239 She believes it's just somebody else in my family had told they didn't believe me, 516 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.119 and that that's what horse. You've got a great mother. I'm impressed. 517 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:42.280 That's great. Yeah, you know Irish, Irish mammies, they are 518 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.639 famous, but love under their sons. I'm the only boy as well the 519 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.599 rest of all girls. So and I'm the youngest. But I told my 520 00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:52.960 mother in law. No, I told me mother law because I'd be pretty 521 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.679 close to her as well. You would be always jailed from day one. 522 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.519 And I met her daughter twenty five years agot A, you know, so 523 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.599 she's like a second mammy and she just she just laughed like she's laughing and 524 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:07.920 she's waiting for me to laugh with her. You had a straight face, 525 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:13.440 and what are you laughing at she was? She talked was a joke. 526 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:17.519 It's no joke. I'm telling something in them that's between me and you and 527 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.960 that nobody else. I'm telling something that's really keeping me down. Really happened, 528 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.840 and I'm shooking to the other and trying to share it. But she 529 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:29.119 was trying to obviously say, problem shares the problem half, that's what I 530 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.199 talk about. No, she just laughs, no such thing, and no 531 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.480 such thing exists. So I don't explain why it's. Ah, you didn't 532 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.119 he minds playing tricks on you. Okay, he mights playing tricks on me. 533 00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:42.360 Well, some people are so ignorant you don't want to if you told 534 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.440 them the hair was on fire, you still say that. There's no where, 535 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.159 no where in this room. You know, people are just taking You're 536 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:53.199 right. Yeah, that's her problem, not a you problem. I'm just 537 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:58.400 so sorry to hear that. She responded that way. Yeah. See, 538 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.880 as I said, there's not many people they could tell. There's no well 539 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:07.639 I supposed to is now because there's plenty of people on the Dog Encounters Family 540 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.440 is you can you can just leave a message, doesn't It's huge support there, 541 00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.880 And that's one thing I never even taller, but at that time it 542 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.519 was looking. It was looking for someone tangible, so a real person that 543 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.280 could sit down and talk to, to listen and just to not judge, 544 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.639 not say yeah, not saying no that they believe me, just to listen 545 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:32.079 to anyone who told from me on mother just had a giggle, just had 546 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:36.440 a giggle, couldn't believe what it was. So that's when I learned quick, 547 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.840 quick smart downs. Nobody put this on in the box, put it 548 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.880 somewhere in your mind and forget about it. More people who tell the more 549 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.320 people who think you're a nut job, or you're out in that field pick 550 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:52.159 a matching mushrooms or whatever. But yeah, that's where I learned, just 551 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.039 to bottle it up and saying nothing. And then after a few years I 552 00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:58.920 realized it was doing more harm than good doing that. So that's when I 553 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.800 firston It really is a shame you have to worry about concerns like that when 554 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:07.079 you have such a traumatic experience. It would be so nice if yet all 555 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.719 these people you could reach out to you for help, But unfortunately, as 556 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:14.280 you found out, that's just not the case. When you have a dog 557 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:19.280 me an encounter while you're walking through the forest before you saw that dog man. 558 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.800 Did you ever see any deer or other large animals? No, there 559 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:25.639 was absolutely nothing. Do you know, I believe it or not. It 560 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.360 was so quiet. I never realized him quite it was, But no, 561 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:37.239 jo Ony, think ourselves really really really rampant. It was big mushrooms grown 562 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:43.360 out of the trees, the old hungo everywhere. No what a living thing? 563 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.639 No other There's a few boards, but I think there was a couple 564 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.519 of ravens, and there was squack and mcmad, but there was no dear. 565 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.400 And there was cattle in the sheep. There was cattle in the field. 566 00:42:54.960 --> 00:43:00.159 Oppositely the forest, there was cattle there are like but in the forest 567 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:06.559 itself or in the adjoining fields there was no no deer, nothing nothing. 568 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.199 Yeah, it wouldn't be surprised if he had worked his way through all the 569 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:15.559 deer and other animals like that there unfortunately. Yeah. How far do you 570 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.559 think you were from the trail where you saw that dog Me and Mick? 571 00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:21.880 Not too far at all. No, because I realized that I was, 572 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.280 I wasn't on the trail when I start getting too the all growth, the 573 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:29.199 groat, nimber and That's when, of course noticed that the mushrooms everywhere, 574 00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.519 and Scott and I was having to go off. I was walking the straight 575 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:35.920 line. I had to go off the straight line to go around trees and 576 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.599 stuff like that. And I was saying, look down and then honest, 577 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:43.360 because the trail was like like a hard packed shale, and there was hard 578 00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:50.199 packed down maybe three foot wide, and it was hard packed so you could 579 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.159 you could to walk on. And that's when I realized that I was just 580 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:58.840 just off the trail. I'd say it was about maybe maybe two hundred yards 581 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.039 off the trail, not too far, Yeah, not far at all. 582 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:06.800 Then, no, not too far at all. And then if I've had 583 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.559 to walk back to the trail, would be maybe maybe a mile back to 584 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:15.639 the road. Did you have any trouble finding your way back? No, 585 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:17.920 As I said, it was all downhill. And the reason why I knew 586 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.079 what I would have no problem getting back is that's the very start. The 587 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.480 trees were not dense at all, not dense, and the trees at the 588 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.199 very start were newer trees. It looked at me as if the area that 589 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:37.320 I started, that where the trail started, something was maybe earmarked for being 590 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.639 built there because it looks as if it was maybe dug out with a couple 591 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:47.119 of big machines. Maybe I don't know. Maybe I don't know. Maybe 592 00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.800 forty or fifty trees were planted, because you could tell these are only young 593 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.599 trees. They're only four or five years old, these trees. So it 594 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:59.119 looked as if the small area at the very started the trail was maybe being 595 00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.880 vacant or may he decided to cut the trees down at the time and do 596 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.559 something with the land, and he didn't, so the replanted. Because if 597 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.840 tomorrow I walked up hill, the more trees I came across, the more 598 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:16.280 denser then the old growth started. So but I knew exactly where I was 599 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:21.639 because if I had to come it was walking up hill. It was so 600 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.239 it was so steep, big that you couldn't really get lost because it's so 601 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.639 up hill. If you're walking sideways, you're walking sideways. If you're walking 602 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:32.360 down, you're walking back down. That's so easy it was. It's all. 603 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:37.960 It was like a massive, big, massive, big rectangular entrance into 604 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:43.039 this place. I was straight up hill and straight downhill, and I knew 605 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.480 where I was going. I was coming down, but I was coming down 606 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.079 at a quicker pace. Obviously he was running, but it was leaving the 607 00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.239 more denser area end coming to the sparsity place trees. And they were younger 608 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:57.440 looking as well, so I knew I was in the right spot. So 609 00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.280 it wasn't even get that long I was. I was only out. I 610 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.639 thought I would say I left the B and B seven maybe it was around 611 00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.079 seven, Yeah, and I was backing on it by quarter to nine, 612 00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:14.559 so it wasn't gone on all. Yeah, it sounds like you weren't. 613 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.199 Yeah, that dog men obviously was a terrifying sight. But would you describe 614 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.639 as being a monster or just a frightening looking animal? No, Yeah, 615 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:27.239 now he was a monster. Monster to me, he was a monster, 616 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.239 especially the way he smoiled than he knew what he was doing, putting his 617 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.599 foot over mine nearly am like Pinnamy foot the ground. Yeah. Whether he 618 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:38.320 was truly a monster or an animal, his behavior, best way to describe 619 00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:45.000 it his monstrous. Yeah. Animals don't smoil at you, Animals don't come 620 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.960 to you. Animals want to avoid men. Let's be honest, Men and 621 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:54.639 human beings are the most destructive things in the world at a minute, and 622 00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:59.199 for him to reach out and put his foot close to mine. That's a 623 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:02.760 sign of he's not afraid, he's he's not himid animal. This thing is 624 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.320 he's think he was stating his superiority over me or something like that. That's 625 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.679 the feeling like go, and the feeling that when he when he smiled, 626 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.079 it was it was it to say, you've really messed up. But I 627 00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.800 wouldn't use mess I used a different world. But that's the feeling like yeah, 628 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.719 like I said, that's truly monstrous behavior. The only way it could 629 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.280 have been worse would have been if he would have attacked you, and you 630 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:28.639 think, goodness, he didn't do that. I thought it was coming. 631 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.239 That's why it closed me always, because it was looming over me. It 632 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:36.920 was like you put yourself. I had my feet up and my knees were 633 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.239 bent, and was sitting on right behind and I had one hand behind me 634 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:43.920 propping myself up, so it was on as the step and I was looking 635 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:51.079 up and I would say his blood right hand was drew like it was hovering 636 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:58.039 around three four fronto my face and a red back and any kind of movement 637 00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.039 towards rearing his hand back. That's when they closed to the eyes that they 638 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.280 knew it that he moves as I have. That's the sithing that he's going 639 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.760 to make a move. And there's no way dispointed his team. It's no 640 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:13.039 way, any man. I don't care who you are. If you said 641 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.880 three or four Bruce Lees or Took Norris or whoever, these chaps wouldn't last 642 00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:22.159 five minutes. But the way this thing is built, everything was just proportionate, 643 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.599 perfectly proportionate. Wasn't He wasn't overly mustly, he wasn't skinny and small 644 00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.679 musly, he was like everyone had a purpose his nails and he was just 645 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.559 a killing machine. That's how he looked. Maybe it was just it was 646 00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.280 all a show or I don't know, but it was really really really impressive 647 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:42.280 and really really really scary at the same time. They know what they're doing. 648 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.119 Unfortunately, they know the buttons to push and they're too good at it. 649 00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:50.840 Yeah, it's not lost on you, Mick that a lot of people 650 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.880 who are interested in dog man thankful kill what human if they have the chance 651 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:59.280 to do that after having your encounter, what would you say to them about 652 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.519 that? Well? I was in that camp for a long time. I 653 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.360 thought maybe he was just he was going to kill me, and he was 654 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.719 just the store, but then I had to and then talking to you, 655 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:15.960 and then thinking on it as well as he whatever wherever a long this I 656 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:20.079 would say the whole encounter lasted a minute maybe more, with me seeing him 657 00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.760 the first time and then not seeing them looking over again, and him making 658 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:28.480 himself visible and then moving to the second three and then shown himself. He 659 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.800 could have had me at any time, he had me bank the rights and 660 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.360 seeing how fast these things mill. If he wanted to kill me, I 661 00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.719 would have been dead without even seeing him. He could have come up, 662 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:38.719 he could have came. He could have blindside of me, I paint from 663 00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:44.159 behind or whatever. I think they're only just there to scare. I don't 664 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.599 know what they're thing is, maybe to dig it off and I don't know. 665 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.599 No, they'll not all kill the changes, as as as I've learned. 666 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.000 But he listened to the people's and kill just whatever. They'll kill him, 667 00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.039 livestock and the well that's oppose. You have to get you have to 668 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.920 live UNTD you have to eat a sustenance and everything else. And maybe maybe 669 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.199 one or two bad ones do kill the humans. Who knows. But he 670 00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.920 had me bank the rights he had could have had me, but he didn't. 671 00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.880 So that says something about they're not all killing machine. They're not all 672 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:20.039 going towards team. Maybe he's putting this planet. Maybe he doesn't know what 673 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.679 he is either. He's probably just trying to find himself. Quite or no, 674 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:27.039 but they're definitely not all killing machine because if that was the case, 675 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.199 I wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation exactly. I'm so glad you realize 676 00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:37.039 that. Did he ever tail Mick? If so, how do you describe 677 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.320 it? No, I didn't see it till at all of it. I've 678 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:44.440 never seen in the back room because the only time he saw and he was 679 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.280 retreating back to the trees behind him, like he was in the tree back 680 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:50.480 back. He was the uman I was doing. He was going backwards but 681 00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.679 keeping his eye on me, and he was I was looking at him. 682 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.119 But I've never seen his behind or the back of him. The only black 683 00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:00.119 part of them I saw was the when he couldn't really miss it, when 684 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:01.719 he when he turned his head any kind of off center and he could see 685 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:06.119 was that rump at the back of his head. It was like a I 686 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.800 don't know what it is like a joint, big rump just where our next 687 00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:13.519 are, the base of our next where their next made their shoulders. It 688 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.639 was a massive, big MASSI big muscle there. But he didn't see his 689 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:22.079 behind after that anywhere. Yeah. From listening to you talk about what happened, 690 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.400 it sounded to me like he always faced you. Yeah, yeah, 691 00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:30.480 and he was never well. If he did have a tail, it wasn't 692 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:35.880 alarmed because he was off center. Maybe maybe I don't know ten degrees when 693 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:38.199 he had his foot right beside miculp. And if you have any kind of 694 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.559 big tail, I'm sure it will probably stick out with your off center. 695 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.119 It didn't see any tail. Oh yeah, I'm sure it would have been. 696 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.599 Did he ever make any sounds during the course of your encounter with him? 697 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.079 Not one sound at all, not even people say they grew all and 698 00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:57.880 so I didn't hear a peep. And but the the only I was here 699 00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.119 was they got pulsate in my year, but relized after that while it was 700 00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:06.239 the blood pumping in my ears because that's all I could hear. It was 701 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.280 like, you know what I mean, the sound of blood pumping. But 702 00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:15.400 no, there's no sound at all at all, Thank God, Oh, 703 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.480 yeah, I know exactly what you mean about the blood pumping. Three years 704 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.760 when you first laid eyes on him, did you ever think about running? 705 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.599 Yeah, well, the first time I saw him, I wasn't sure if 706 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:29.440 I saw it, don't know, because it was just so he was so 707 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:35.239 quick. I glanced over and he pants. I look down, as I 708 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.719 said, look down at my feet. So I was watching my putting them 709 00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.880 because of the roots and stuff, the old bloat. And then I looked 710 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.719 up again, and that's what I caught. Contact them now so so intrigued 711 00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:47.119 them what I was looking at. I didn't even think about running. I 712 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:52.679 don't know why. And then when I realized what it was, I just 713 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:58.079 the whole body was just legs like jelly. If my mind had a said 714 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.800 run, I don't think me body would enable the function. That's not that 715 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.280 I even joy it too, but I'll be able to well. Regardless of 716 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.400 the reason, I'm so glad you didn't try to run. I think that's 717 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:13.079 maybe what they want. You want a bit of a chase. I'm not 718 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.360 too sure if you run from a dog, they're going to run after you. 719 00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:20.400 I shouldn't really compare it with a dog, because that's not what they 720 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.920 are, but it's nearest thing to comparison. Well, when you consider some 721 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:28.320 of the things they do, they do have some dog like tendencies. But 722 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:30.480 if you would have run, do you get that much more of a rise 723 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:32.920 out of you? I'm pretty sure you would have chased you, like you 724 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.480 said, yeah, just for the pleasure of chasing. Yeah. It probably 725 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.760 would have put Marvel Roy's elm me. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you 726 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.280 would. Yeah. Are you glad your encounter happened so far from home or 727 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:49.920 would have been easier to deal with if it would have happened closer to where 728 00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.360 you live? Absolutely? I'm deloyed to happen somewhere else because I can pull 729 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:57.280 it away in a box saying that happened over there, It's not going to 730 00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.960 happen over here. That's exactly. One of the best things about it is 731 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:04.920 that it didn't happen on my front doorstep are my favorite place to walk with 732 00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.880 my children? Are the place where I go could happen with my son. 733 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:12.320 It didn't happen there, happened on the forum bunty way way over there in 734 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.239 eastern Europe. So I put it in the box and leave it over there. 735 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.679 And I know it's a bad thing to say, but that helped me 736 00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:22.320 a lot, saying that it wasn't going to happen here. No, don't 737 00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:24.639 feel bad about that. I mean, if it's the positive that it happened 738 00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:30.320 so far away, we'll take any good news we can get exactly. Yeah, 739 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:35.039 definitely, you had a strong Catholic upbringing, Mick. Do you think 740 00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:42.519 that's helped you deal with that experience? And well, I've played an awful 741 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:47.039 lot afterwards. I thought it was something that I'd done. Always been happened 742 00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:52.239 because something that I've done, But it's just where we brought ups Cattan, 743 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:58.920 especially in Orleans. Yeah, it helped an awful lot because meeting the Bible 744 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.440 as well, I helped an awful lot because it is always going to be 745 00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:05.480 good, it's always going to be bad. Blah blah blah blah. Yeah, 746 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.119 praying helped me a lot. It never took it away, but it 747 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:13.159 made it easy a little bit, if you understand I'm saying it took a 748 00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:16.639 small but as anyway, Oh good, I'm glad it did help. Then. 749 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:21.599 Yeah, what's about time for us to get out of here, Mick. 750 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.239 But before we do, do you have any clothing comments you'd like to 751 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:28.679 share. I'd just like to thank you first of all, because ever since 752 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.199 I got touched due the first time, even the second time and the tour 753 00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:36.639 time, it's been a big, great help because I kept forgetting the one 754 00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.119 thing that if he wanted me, I was gone, So he wasn't able 755 00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:43.639 to get me. He wasn't he wasn't just scifically looking for me. He 756 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.480 was just out there the homody does talking about a total stranger. I think 757 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:51.039 that's the mistake I made. Maybe I would have had a better outcome. 758 00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.119 I've had to hold a total stranger. Radn't told someone that I got was 759 00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:58.400 close to me. If I had to hold someone that was totally didn't know 760 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.840 who it was, maybe got a better reception out of it and maybe made 761 00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:06.239 you feel a whole lot better. Though the whole situation tells whole stranger than 762 00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:12.679 tells someone that I forsted than caredabile. That's all the past, No, 763 00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:16.880 that's about it. Just share more and care more. Well. Like I 764 00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:21.159 told you, Mick, it's bad enough you had to experience that encounter, 765 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.800 but when you got back home and you would expect that you would have gotten 766 00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:28.280 all the help from all these people that you shared your experience with, but 767 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.760 unfortunately you didn't. It really is a shame that you had to deal with 768 00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:37.119 that as well, but thanks again so much for your time making have a 769 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:37.679 great night.