Welcome to the KTPF Reload Show. In case you're wondering what the Reload Show
is about if you haven't heard previous shows, these are the interviews that were
conducted by a good friends of mine, Steven Sue Tagget in the days of
the KTPF radio show. Their own radio show around for just over four years,
broadcasting every week for over the three hours. I joined them in the
last eighteen months of the show's run, but eventually the guys felt they've just
about had enough. It was a monumental effort to keep broadcasting every week for
three hours. It was a wonderful show. But unfortunately they no longer involved
and the shows have just sort of sat in the archive, so I thought
it would be nice to bring them back to life. Anyway, Hopefully you
enjoy tonight's show, and this is the KTPF Reload Show. Enjoy This program
deals with themes of an adult nature and is intended for a mature audience.
Tonight, we're talking conspiracy theories, and there is there is no other bigger
conspiracy. Conspiracy theory will put my teeth back in then the one we're going
to speak about, and that is the assassination of John F. Kennedy in
on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. Now, well, well there's
two biggis, but we're going to get one later. One. Yes,
So, as I say, was he killed by the CIA, the KGB
Aliens or by accident? Well, Andy's on handy. It's one of his
top subjects that he likes talking about, don't you Andy, Oh absolutely yes,
So over to you. Well, let me just play this as a
start off. As we know, originally the plan was I was doing show
my own. I had all this set up anyway, so thought I'll just
play this. This is how the America itself first learned of the events.
This is a radio broadcast. I'm sorry it's a TV broadcast, but it's
audio because back in those days they didn't have life feed so we do now.
So I'm just gonna play this too, right Roe button. It will
work eventually, It's just it's a long bit slow for no obvious reason.
Come on, yees say, Machine President's car is now turning onto Elm Street
and it will be only a matter of minutes before he rides at the trademark.
I was on Stimmons Freeway earlier and even the freeway was jam packed with
spectators waiting their chance to see the President as he made his way towards the
trade Marks. It appears as though something has happened in the motorcade route.
Something I repeat, has happened in the motor Kate route. There's numerous people
running up the hill alongside Elm Street thereby the Simmons Freeway. Several police officers
are rushing up the hill at this time. Stand by just the moment,
please, Something has happened in the Motorcate route. Stand by, please.
Barkton Hospital, there has been shooting. Parkland Hospital has been advised to stand
by for a severe gunshot boom. I repeat, a shooting in the motor
case in the downtown area. Parkler Hospital has been advised to stand by for
a severe gunshot boom. The President's card is now going past me. The
limousine is now traveling at a very high rate of speed. Secret Service men
standing up in the limousine. They are armed with submachine gun. The appears
as though someone in the limousine might have been hit by the gunfire. Put
me on, They put me on, Come on on, we're here at
the Trademark the moti Cator is coming by. Here I can see many many
motorcycles coming by. Now Police motorcycles just had a common minial for all units
along Industrial. It will pick up the motor case. Something has happened here.
We understand it. It's been a shooting. The presidential car coming up.
Now we know it's a presidential calling. And see this is Kennedy and
peak. Shoot there's a secret service man's playgal on the top of the car.
We have this man, Governor and mister Parker. You are in the
car with the President and missus Kennedy. We can't see the whole has been
hit and if anybody is being hit. But apparently something is wrong here,
if something is terribly wrong. I'm in behind the moticat you knowing the polo
the Hunters goes, they're going to Parkland the hospital. Well, I'm the
little two Parker at this time think was covered by the spidal spread eco over
whenever he was in the car. The President and mister Kennedy, and then
we understand Governor and mister Connelly at this point a look as good. It
could have been a lot or general or even all of the people who within
the car may have been the victims. They may have been struck by shops.
We don't know. Part in the hospital in the distance, not all
high hindes, school of ard following behind the moticator, many many police officers,
maybe twenty or twenty five motorcycle policemen falling in behind the play mart I,
here's call left behind. What do you expect me to see the president?
The monicate? Now only gate not perhaps still? And who blocks ahead
of me? They are approaching the entrance now two parks in the hospital's hobling
at a highlight of speed. Lady from I ain't got from ily boy,
I'm pulling a Knight God park went up, but ming done waiting me alarm
at just gives you an idea of how the Americans cells first heard about the
events at Dallas. It was all obviously very confusing at first. Initially no
one was really sure what the hell was going on, But it was clear
that even for those who had no idea that there was a shooting, undoubted
if someone had been shot in the car. What we now know is that
President Kennedy had been assassinated. He'd been shot. Basically, the shot that
killed him was through his head to the back of his head off, so
I mean there was no chance of survival, but of course they wouldn't just
give up. He was taken to Parker Morral Hospital and they tried to revive
him, but it was it was impossible. He was dead and was very
soon afterwards taken off to the airport to be flown back to Washington. Now,
already things were going a bit a ride because under data US law and
Texas law in fact, a murder has to be investigated in Dallas in Texas,
and they said, nope, we're taking the body away, taking the
body back back to Washington. So already things even from the first moment of
these events, things are going strange. But there are other odd things as
well. One of the first visual reports I'll show, we say live reports,
was a cut into a show on CBS News which reported straight away the
three shots have been fired at play Kennedys motivated. And that was the first
line of the first official report, which is about forty minutes after the shooting.
Now, there've been absolutely no investigation of anyone anywhere into these events at
that point, but they've already concluded that three shots have been fired. Now
It's never been established why CBS said three shots, who told CBS, or
where the idea originally came from. There were three shots, but that would
be and remain the government's official position regarding the assassination right up to the late
nineteen seventies, which I'll come back to in a minute, But from the
the investigation began to the end, that was always the conclusion. Three shots,
one government. The first thing we wanted to look at really is the
events that they itself. President Kennedy was there on tour as part of a
basically trying to gather support for the election. It was a couple in sixty
four. He narrowly, very very narrowly, had won the election in nineteen
sixty and he was obviously hopeful to win the election in sixty four, and
in fact that I think there was a probably very very good chance he was
going to win by a large majority. Of The candidate that the Republican Party
had chosen was seen as inexperienced in a little week because they didn't really think
they had much of a chance against Kennedy. But he was out there doing
a tour. The original plan was to travel through d D Plaza as a
morning tour of Dallas to go after a place called the Trademark, which you
heard mentioned in the raid radio CIP were always going to give a speech and
by of me there was a big lunch and that sort of thing. Now,
the d D Plaza itself is a small sort of garden area for like,
just on the west of Dallas. The car was supposed to go down
the central road of these three roads in the triangle of DV paths and they'd
hold our head off to the Trademark. But on the morning of the actual
road trip the route was changed. And this is one of another thing that
suggestings are a bit strange because the CIA, I'm sorry, the secret services
have a very definite idea about how a car where the president he is supposed
to proceed. It's supposed to be protective. It's supposed to take a certain
route, and it's never supposed to slow down below a certain speed, never
supposed to change direction at more than mighty degrees, so that obviously protecting the
president. Now the car itself had a bubble roof. It's like a big
glass dough. It is bulletproof that known to the bubble car. The link
in the bubble car. Now, if that protection was to be removed,
then it had to be perhaps be a lot more protection around the car at
the time in order to make sure the president was safe. But this didn't
happen. Again, were there are all sorts of problems with the level of
protection that Kennedy received that day when they drove it into the plaza. They'd
actually reported in the newspaper the night before, they'd shown the route on the
cover of the newspaper showed go down the Middle Road. But the morning of
the year of the actual assassination, the car suddenly veered went a different direction.
It headed sort of ninety degrees around to a road called Elm Street,
and then took one hundred and twenty degree turn to get into Elm Street itself
and carry on down the road. So it was already doing the things he
wasn't supposed to be doing, So it had protection had been lessened, and
it was following an unusual route that wouldn't normally have been allowed. So again,
something was definitely going on. That was on even before this gun fastlighted
to happen, and then these supposed shots occurred, and that was very definitely
killed one of the strange things, of course, is this is all caught
on video, which is the amazing thing. The camera was mounted by a
guy called Abraham Zapruda, just the home video he was filming himself at home
cameras. Thatt CNY camera was filming at the side of the plaza. He
actually captured twenty two seconds of video footage which actually showed the assassination actually taking
place, from the first moment of the car turning on to Elm taking the
toty wasn't supposed to take to going right past him, and he's almost directly
opposite when Kennedy's actually hitting the head. Now as the car goes past,
of course he's kill. Something's very obvious has happened, and there's something's definitely
going very wrong. Now, there were fifty seven witnesses actually in the plaza
itself at the time of the shooting, and they all reported hearing obviously hearing
shots. Now, a good two thirds of those witnesses all ran towards roughly
where's a prideable standing, towards a small fenced area at the top of what
became as the grassy. Now, about thirty people ran straight away towards the
area, and every single one of them was convinced they had heard gunfire coming
from that right front area. And yet when the government began to investigate the
CIA, the FBI first began to investigate, they discounted that. They said
that they ont belye there were only three shots. The reason why they gave
the idea of only being three shots fired from the rear was they found a
rifle and three bullet shells in a building to the right rear of the president.
Now, this is where the idea of being three shots really starts to
take off, but that wasn't found to some time after the news report said
three shots. So you're already thinking that's a little bit odd, you know,
if you go into the case, you start think it's something a bit
stranger on here. Why is it they're saying these three shots and there's no
relevance of the three shots. And then lum behold, there's evidence of the
three shots. These three shells found behind the car. Now never found faius
soon after, within a couple of hours. So the FBI had this definite
idea there was one gunman faring from behind. As far as they were concerned,
one shot was fired, it hit Kennedy in the rear, came out
the front. A second shot was fired that missed Kennedy and hit Connolly,
the other man of the guy who had mentioned he was a government of Texas
at the time, and then a third shot hit Kennedy in the head.
That seems pausal, seems possible. The only problem was straight away that first
theory shall we saved by the FBI started to unravel because a guy who was
standing on the far side of the plant was actually hit by something during the
gunfire during the shooting, and it was either a fragment of bullet or possibly
a fragment of stone from the curb. And a man called James Tabe was
actually hit in the face. It was only a small cart with his bleeding
and whenever a police officer later on pointed out to me, you have blogging
in your face. He remembered feeling something hit or sting his face around the
time of the shootings, and he said he heard the first gun fire,
then he kind of ducked under the bridge on the far side and felt something
hit his face. When the curb was checked, it showed there was actually
a bullet mark and he clearly a bullet had missed the car, so you
were then left with only two bullets, because obviously this had to be one
of those three shots that were supposedly fired by a gunman at the time initially
unnamed, firing from the building behind which became known as the school book depository.
Now, the interesting thing was that if you've only got three bullets being
fired by this supposed rifle that was found there, because they might have at
a time of five point six seconds that the shooting had to take place,
the rifle that was found could only be what they call recycled. When you
pull the bolt back and put the bat back in again, took just over
two seconds each time, so there can only ever been three shots fired from
that rifle in the time frame of five point six seconds. It was not
possible to have had more shots. So the shot that missed the limousine and
hit the curb had to have come from one of those three shots. So
then you take out that shot, you've only left with two. The trouble
is when you look at Kennedy and Connelly, if you ignore the head shot,
there were actually seven wounds these two guys suffered as a result of this
being shot at Kennedy, even according to the official government report, is hit
in the back of the neck, comes out the front. It hits so
Connelly, the guy in front of him in the back, comes out his
front, hits him in the wrist, goes him his risk an now he's
risk again and lands in his leg. Now that's even the official government version
of what happened. But we'll get back to the real problems of that one
in a little while. So you have the idea of someone's firing from the
rear, fired more than shots, and they've all come from behind. The
FBI had concluded this very early on, within a week of their investigation.
But what's really interesting was an American investigator of his private investigator whose name I
must be has just slipped my mind, which is very annoying, used to
be an investigative officer for the Senate. He actually had a letter written by
a guy called Katzenback who was the deputy A deputy always gone from my head,
Deputy Attorney General, sorry I remember, actually a debit attorney general who
was acting Attorney General at the time because Robert Kennedy, obviously obvious reasons,
was not happy to work at that point his brother just been murdered. He
wrote to Hoover, the head of the FBI, that it was important that
we established in the public's mind as soon as possible the idea of there being
a lone assassin firing three shots. He actually wrote that down, and Harold
Weisberg, that's the guy actually has the memoranda itself that shows Captain Back said
that. And that was Monday morning after the assassination on the Friday, And
you think, what that's going on there. They've already decided three shots have
been fired from the rear and that the FBI investigation has to prove that to
be the case and do The Secret Service had their own investigation, which was
a little unusual as they tend to leave these things to the FBI, but
they included the same thing, exactly the same thing that the way in which
this has happened. Now, of course, we all know the name that
was put forward for the assassination was Lee Harvey Oswald. But again there's a
bit of a mystery there because nobody knows where that name first came from.
It was broadcast over the police radio at one in the afternoon. But why
that name was chosen who suggested this person is a mystery. No one's ever
come forward and say, actually it was me. I said it was as
a guy to be investigated, so that that, again is a little bit
strange. Now, I hopeful this isn't all getting a bit too confusing,
because there's a lot I want to try and cover the receiving on this assassination.
But is it making sense so far? Yeah, apart from the fact
that when I saw the video it looks like his head goes backwards. We'll
get onto that one. Don't you worry about that because that is probably the
biggest problem. Now there's a Bruda film, like you mentioned. Actually,
I'll come onto that. Now, there's Aabruda film I've just mentioned. They
didn't expect it to exist. You know, no one thought that anyone was
going to capture on film as clearly as Zapruda did the assassination. Now,
the film itself was brought by Time Life magazine and on that day, and
they pay something like one hundred and twenty thousand dollars for it, which is
equivalent to a couple of million pounds a day, a million dollars today.
And Zapruda sort couldn't believe his ears and was like the suddenly very very rich.
But they locked it away. Wouldn't anybody other than the government ever get
to see it until I think it was about a year later when the CBS
anchorman reporter Dan Rada, was given a chance to view it. That Dan
Rather was well known at the time. He was seconding toward a conkait in
terms of sort of public presence of the laters and news reporter. He came
into the studio all excited and described the Zabruda film. And the thing is
that at the end, which at the time, of course, we had
nowhere verifying what he was saying, but has since shocked a lot of people.
He said. What he said was he said about the bullets being hit,
and the case president hit, his head explodes and the head is violently
thrown forward. Thrown forward, Dan Rather actually says the president went forward when
he was hitting the head. Now, everybody who's ever watched that video,
we'll tell you one thing. Obvious, his head's going backwards. So where
or why Dan Rather, who was supposed to be refecting the prospective reporter,
was saying, that is a mystery, you know, he's never really been
questioned about it. But the possibility is that he did see the video and
it was adopted, because we found that years later that before Time Life bought
it from Zabruda, the CIA had it that afternoon. It was only in
the evening that is returned to Zabruda and he sold it to Time Life magazine.
But CLA had access and viewed the footage clearly in the afternoon before it
was past the timeline, so it's quite possible to them, and maybe they
copied it and it into it and showed that version, but for whatever reason,
it didn't work. And now the real version came to the surface a
few years later by Jack with Robert Grod and actually got hold of a copy
of it, made it, copy the original, made a copy of the
two at the time off at the time, and began to analyze it himself
privately, with act anyone else knowing about it. And what he concluded,
he just said, was what on earth is we're rather talking about? His
head clearly goes backwards and to the left, not forwards, So why rather
said that? It means an absolute mystery. And Mozzie's question about why I
was taking out in the first place. I will definitely be getting onto that,
and I want to talk about the event of the day first, or
just to set the scene before we talk about really why this all happened?
Is that that's the big question. Of course, you know, we can
discuss how it was done or who's the gunman, but why did it happen
is probably the biggest thing of all. So you can I just make a
point there for what you just said with the head going back backwards, he
was clearly shot from the front. Absolutely not the escaping that, as I
said, But at the beginning, more than two thirds of the people who
were actually in the plaza itself ran towards what's now known as the grassy.
No, it was just a small hill at the time. And an interesting
thing was you could say, well, the baby, they were just following
each other. But there was enough people at the start who were running up
there who thought there's something's going on back here. One guy in particularly a
guy called Charles bren who recently left the military. He's been in World War
iiO and experienced gunfire. He had no doubt in his mind whatsoever that gunshots
came from that grassy area. Beside. At this point before you go on
where in relation to the Kennedy was where Oswald was supposed to have fired from.
I was always supposedly firing from the sixth floor window of a building behind
Kennedy. Kennedy at that point was being driven along Elbe Street. As I
mentioned, the building was like the rear corner of Elm Street of dB Plaza.
He was about two to three hundred jarbs away. Obviously at the start
of the firing and the ending of the car moved forward somewhat. He also
at one point would have to be firing through a tree with leaves on it,
because it's a Texas live oak, which doesn't shed its leaves to all
marks. Because Hoover said at the time the tree had shed always leads because
it was November, but that was nonsense because the trees hasn't shed leave till
March. So at least one shot had to have been fired through the foliage.
Maybe that's all from that missed the car, But that's the biggest problem
at all that you have the two major issues of the gun fire. First
of all, just said that you obvious thing if he wants the suppruitter film
is that his head goes backwards, which is perfectly natural for anyone stuck in
the fronts by a bullet, because there's a transfer of momentum will throw you
backwards. The frame in the direction of the bullet was traveling, and you
can clearly see in the side of his head blows away as he's just been
hit in the head by what was probably what's called a frangible bullet, which
is an exploding bullet. And we'll get back to why it was one of
these a little while, but that was the only kind of bullet that could
have caused the damage that you see. I mean, I'm not gonna put
link up, but it's very very easy to find a link to the video
of the Zapruda, and perhaps sus can find it there that you can see
the twenty two seconds of the assassination take place. But the other problem is
this other bullet, which, as I've said before, the government had already
established, well I'd already established, could only have been fired three shots.
One shot that clearly missed and hit James Takee. There was no getting away
from that one. The bullet mark was on the pavement and Jay's face was
injured by it. And one bullet clearly is the one that killed Kennedy called
the government's reports, so they left with this one bullet. The one bullet's
become known as the magic bullet, which I find absolutely incredible. It does
some very very strange gymnastics, even in the official government version. He has
to go into Kennedy's neck at the back, come out the front, go
into Connolly's back, come out the front, hit Connelly in the wrist,
come out the same hole it went into, and then embed itself in Connolly's
leg, which he apparently then fell out of the hospital and was retrieved off
of a bench of porters. What's it bent thing in the hospital. And
this was the bullet that came known as the magic bullet. We actually physically
had the bullet itself. Now, if you ever see a photograph of the
so called magic bullet, it's kind of slightly flattened and slightly bent. There
is no way on earth one bullet could create all those wounds, and look
the way it looked. It's just virtually nothing was missing from it in terms
of its actual physical weight. The amount of weight lost was minimal. But
the most interesting thing is obviously as the bullet transversed through the victims. Connolly
particularly left bits of itself behind, and there are fragments of the bullets in
Connolly's wrist that were removed soon afterwards. Now, the amount of bullet material
that was removed from Connolly's wrist was greater than the amount of the bullet material
lost in the so called magic bullet. So where's the extra material come from?
You know, he lost twenty three grains, not Braham's grains. There's
a money at wit. It was one of the fifty grains was taken out
of Connelly's wrist. So how is that possible? But this bullet didn't do
anything like what the government had claimed. In fact, he does something more
spectacular. The government claimed that the bullet entered the roof of his neck,
But if you look at the photographs of Kennedy's clothing and Kennedy's actual body,
the bullet hole in his back is actually in his back. It's about well,
this is the fourth thoracic vertebrace. It's four spun ribs basically down his
back, not his neck, so lightly between the shoulder blades. Yeah,
lower down, which means, if it was correct, you have to have
got in there and somehow got deflected upwards to come out from his neck.
Except he's actually on record and the autopsy carried out in Washington. One of
the autopsy men puts his finger into the hole in Kennedy's back and says he
can feel into the end of the wound. So it stopped about an inch
into Kennedy's back, So there's no way a bullet would transverse from there.
But the other thing is it was described as saying the government's official report that
the bullet ectuit did Kennedy's throat. Now, when you read the testimony of
the pot and the hospital people who saw Kennedy's wounds, including those in the
trauma room trying to resuscitate him, they all describe a small wound in the
lower neck in the front as a wound of entry, and a small wound.
When it got to Washington, which is important, the wound was much
larger, looking much more like it was an exit wound, so fitting with
the idea of the bullet came in the back and went out the front.
But this is the key thing. If Parker Memorial doctors describe a small nick
in the throat coming out in his throat at the hospital in Dallas, suggesting
a wound of entry, and then there was a much larger wound described at
Washington. And who altered the wound. There's nobody who could have altered the
wood outside of the government, outside official figures who were transporting, as I
said at the beginning, legally transporting any of his body back to Washington when
it should have stayed actually in Dallas. That's not the only mystery about the
wounding of the president that can't be explained other than the involvement by government officials.
Was the head wound. The head wound itself is described by the Parking
member of hospital doctors as being about the size of an egg in the right
rear of the president's head, a hole blown out. If you watch the
video footage of the sapruder thing, you can see the rear side of his
head exploding outwards as they described. But when it gets to park we gets
to Washington, the wound has drown in size significantly. If you look at
the supposed photographs of the wounds taken up the autopsy, it is quite considerably
larger than anything the doctor's described, And one of the commentators pointed out a
while ago. The interesting thing was when the second investigation was carried out in
the nineteen seventies, which would get onto it later on. They had the
doctors from Parking Waal Hospital there giving testimony, but those doctors were not shown
the autopsy photographs that the government had. Of course, there is would be
as they would say, that's not the wound we saw in Dallas. That
wound's different. And it gets even stranger because there are actually X rays of
Kennedy's head that popped down of the blue from somewhere. Now they show severe
skull damage around the right eye. They show fractured skull. Now you would
see that in someone's face and the skull was fractured around the eyes of it,
it would be very very obvious. There is no sign of any wound
at all around Kennedy's head in the actual photographs of the X rays and the
autopsy photographs don't tie with each other. They just don't make any sense.
So it suggests that somebody was clearly even when upulating the body itself. It
is a pretty damn stuff, or certainly the photographs is supposing that the autopsy
have becliped, have been faked, because they did turn up sometime afterwards.
The interesting thing also is that Colonel Humes is one of the two main autopsy
especialists who were working ones, especially if they weren't specialists at all. There
were two medical professionals who worked for the Navy, but they hadn't had any
experience in autopsies previously to this. This was the first time they'd worked on
an autopsy. You know, you think they get somebody in who's a bit
more skilled in autopsy, who worked to carry an autopsy on the president's body.
But now these guys have brought in because they were military. When he
wrote his first set of notes out, including diagrams of where he found wounds,
he was told to burn them and to rewrite them, and who the
hell would do that, and somewhere in the government in terms to rewrite his
own knots, so he will have wounds occurring to the president's body that are
different between Parkland in Dallas and Washington. They've changed, they've moved, they've
altered, but that's not the only thing that had changed. When he was
put into a castle in Dallas, he was given one of the most expect
to ones that they had available this bronze casket and wrapped in a cloth lining
cloth inside the coffin. When he got to Washington, he was in a
body bag. No side of the coffin that disappeared and he was brought into
the old tops of room in a body bag. So you know how comes
why was it switched? So it does lots of questions left over after on
earth was going on, But the single bullet there as it gets even stranger
because not only do you have the fact of the matter that the first wound
of entry in Kennedy's back is lower down, is his back not his neck?
The doctors find how did the wound goes that inch, the throat wound
apparently being described in Washington as an exit wound being large and gaping, whilst
in Washington, Dallas, Wada were seen as a small wound of entry.
Then it goes stranger because Kennedy is sitting directly behind Connolly, but not directly
in angle with the firing supposed from Oswald. It would be a right angle.
So a bullet going straight through Kennedy would have come out and gone past
Connolly. He wouldn't hit him, but this bullet did. So the bullet
seems to change direction in mid air. The other interesting thing is you see
in the Zapruda video the footage Kennedy has clearly been hit. There's no way
of getting away from that. He's been hit. His arms go up towards
his throat, he's thrust slightly forward in a moment Connolly is turning round.
There's about a second and a half with him turning round to look over his
shoulder before he is clearly hit. And the interesting thing is in the in
the footage he's holding his hat. His big steps and hat is Connolly.
Now, if you've been hitching the wrist, he wouldn't be able to hold
his hat, would be able to have flown out of his hands straight away.
So you've got a delay of about one point five seconds between Kennedy being
hit and Connolly being hit. So this bullet, which goes a two thousand
miles an hour, was hanging in mid air for about a second and a
half before it then hits Connolly. Now it goes into Connolly's back, comes
out of his right front, changes direction again because his hands not in line
with his chest at that point to hit him in the wrist. It then
comes out of his wrist through the hole it went in they say, deflected
off the bone and then brows itself in Colony's leg. So he's he's the
most incredible bullet in history. The other thing, there's also in the autopsy
notes in Washington. This is after Dallas, of course, was a bullet
or fragment of bullet was found on the stretcher in what on the sorry of
the autopsy bed that Kennedy was on. It's recorded just finding a bullet.
So that's at least a fourth bullet, you know. So this is so
not adding up. There's clearly something going very wrong here in terms of what's
actually happening. So I'm going to pause for a second. There's anyone any
questions. I got loads. I just got gathered by a water and it's
closing up on me. And so we've got bullet. We've got bullets that
shouldn't be there. As he probably guessed, this is not from noses off
my head, So excuse me getting it all over the place. It's spend
in one of those weeks chance to sit down and write and stuff out.
Okay, okact questions. Okay, Let's let's start with the person that we
are told killed Kennedy Lee Harvey Oswald. Is it true that he shot Officer
J. D. Tippett and took a shot at General Edwin Walker before supposedly
shooting Kennedy. Let me deal with the Eby Walker stuff first of all,
that one has been tied in some time after the whole assassination business. No
real link has ever been established other than here, so that he may or
may not have done it. I personally, I think it's those monsters.
They don't do him whatsoever. But I think it was one of those things
that we're just trying to tie him into this Walker shooting in order to demonstrate
he was a lone nutcume in case he was trying to kill people. So
that one is one of those ones that a lot of even sort of the
most serious investigators of this assassination have kind of just ruled out as been nonsensible.
The second one is much more important for JD. Tippitt shiating. Now,
it's understandable if you are the lone assassin that you've just killed the president,
and if a police officer approaches you, you're going to try and get
the hell away from them more possibly shoot them. The trouble is it's the
route at which Oswell took that day. He doesn't make him any sense because
he went from the school book to positive which he was in. He walked
out of the building because it wasn't actually sealed off for about half an hour
after the assassination of the Kurt, and he and several other employees left the
building at the time. He made his way to a bus, got a
bus back to his lodging rooms, which he lost. Something they will h
leaves is a bit strojan itself where, apparently his testimony from his landladies said,
a police car pulled up outside, digged its horn and then drove off.
Soon after that, Oswald then left. Now he walked about a quarter
of a mile I think it was west, and was heading towards where it
would eventually end up, which is the cinema where he was arrested. The
trouble is the shooting of J. D. Tippett took place in another part
of Dallas altogether. Now, what Osworld would have to have done was gone
to where he shot Tippet and then double backed on himself and got to the
textis movie theater where he was finally arrested. It's a walk that would take
o jog or run if you like, It would take about twenty minutes.
Nobody saw him in that area other than this supposed at time of the shooting,
nobody Sawy walk or run that area with no witness has ever come forward
to seeing him. People who were not too far away said they saw a
man, possibly if it did Oswald's description, firing at the police officer in
the car. They don't know why. But the two people who were closest,
a woman called Rose Sherman and Demino Banda Vitas is obviously a Spanish American.
They were the two witnesses. A quiller clament story was the woman.
They were the two witnesses who were close by it closest by Banavitus describes a
heavy set man looked nothing like Oldwald at all, heavy set block like you.
I Steve Whereasswell was a very small stimder. And Rose, the woman
who was the closest to the whole thing, saw two men go off in
different directions, neither which fitted Oswald's description. But the most important thing is
when the police themselves turned up to the shooting, they collected bullets from an
automatic handgun, now wis what had a revolver, different kind of gun.
Not only that, the afsping officer actually scratched his initials onto the founder shells.
When the shells later presented to him, they said there were different shells
and there were no initials on them, so the clear of those had been
changed. There was also talking to a Genie Tippets Fann, not in person,
but people spect the Geni Tippets family was that Jendia Tipple was having an
affair and there's a very good chance the person who shot him was the husband
of the woman was a different so he probably had nothing whatsoever to do with
assassination at all. It was just a useful thing to tie in because obviously
the police were then afthur osword oswe knew that were after him, so he
would sure the police approached him. So that's really the reason for that that
I think it basically it was just some kind of domestic that was going on
and multiple got dragged into it. Okay, it's been rumored that maybe Jack
Ruby was involved in the assassination. That gets into a very complicated area which
we would definitely get onto later on. I think so I said to you
guys previously. I am convinced that the assassins themselves, the actual gunman who
fired the shots were mafia linked, without a doubt. Ruby was cut in
Matfea linked as well. And I think he was given the task to kind
of keep an eye on the patsy, because I think it was set up
from the beginning. But also he was then, as we know, later
on, given the job of basically knocking off the patsy. And I think
we talked a little while ago about this one, and I always find this
fascinating. When Ruby actually shot Oswald in the garage of the police station on
the Sunday morning, afterwards, he was initially unaware whether Oswell was alive or
dead. He was taken down to a cell which was actually the cell mixter
which Olsward had been kept, and was visibly shaken. He was sweating,
He was panicked. He asked for cigarette and wanted to smoke, which he
didn't normally do a pan He was very, very worried. When he was
told that Ottle was actually dead, he relaxed, he was calm, so
he didn't actually smunk him. He was okay, so obviously he was more
concerned about the fact that he had to do his job properly of or was
face the consequences, and he was that Ozwe was dead, he'd killed him.
I think you possibly hoped that someone you might get officers that are coming
of reprieve killing the man who'd killed the Kennedy, But I don't know.
Maybe that's what he was told they had sort out for him. But he
was definitely Matthia linked about a doubt. I mean, that's that's on record.
But I also think he had a small scale involvement in the setting up
of barsworld and maybe didn't necessarily realize exactly what was going to happen. So
one of the things that the theory has been put forward and I can see
gravitas, is that there was going to be an attempt, a mock attempt
to assassinate Kennedy that was going to be like guns just fired in the air
to sort of create this idea he was trying to be assassinic, but there's
no reassassin. He was going to take place not realizing the thing was actually
going to happen. So, okay, if it was to take that shot,
which we've already said couldn't have happened, from where it was over the
two hundred yards, he would have had to have been a decent shot.
But was he an expert marksman at all? Absolutely not. No, he
was known as his I think records something fifty five percent, which is slightly
more hits than miss is. So the thing is FBI did three sexual tests
using the supposed rifle, which is America Carcano and an old Italian weapon from
World War Two that was known as the Humane guns, so inaccurate. It
was only when they actually adjusted the sights on the rifle that the FBI were
able to have any recreating Oswald's shots. So possibly almost impossibly fast time with
a rifle with a defective sight on it and the target food trees moving away
from him, and of course, as anyone would know, you're not find
a gun sty, but you have all the time in the world to line
up your first shot. Your first shot is going to be the most accurate,
because after that people are starting to react to gunfire. The third shot
that was the most accurate, that got a guy in the head, by
which point the car was already even further away and they were alert that something
was going on. But one of the interesting things that people have pointed out,
and I got lost to explains because I don't think the driver was directly
involved. I think it was in shock, and I'll get back to why.
But they can't actually appears to momentarily slow down as a shooting happens,
and I think the driver was reacting. This reaction time was very, very
slow rather than deliberate. So but the point is it, whoever was firing
from the rear would have even better opportunity to shoot that the president because the
car slowed down. Now, one of the interesting things that was discovered that
the Secret Service have a policy when they're obviously on duty, is there's no
party in the night before, there's no going out to drinking, there's no
nightclubs. It's you know, it's off to bed at nine. Talk of
the Cocoa. The Secret Service team that were there on the day the night
before had been at a nightclub to four o'clock in the morning. Now that
was completely against rules and regulations, So who the hell all gave them permission
to do that, But it meant their only action time was obviously significantly effective
with the lack of sleep and the fact that they were you know, they've
been drinking it up before and incidentally the only unless, of course, the
team was changed at the last minute. No, no, no, it's
the same team on record. It's the same team, only one person didn't
go out that night, and lets the officer the Secret Service. When you
see run across the car from one car to the other, dive on the
back of the President's limo and trying to keep missus Kennedy in the car.
Resumer is obviously freaking out at that point. He's the only one who's acts
quickly, and he was the only one who didn't go out that night.
The rest of them were all there, and the witnesses saw them there.
There was in the record show they were there at this nightclub. His name
was Frey has eskept me for a moment, but they were certainly there,
and it's like, what on earth are you doing there? But that's just
one of those strange anomalies with the protection the president didn't receive that day.
As I said earlier, not only you have the root change, which made
no sense because it went against cigaret service regulations. The bubble had been removed,
which you don't do if a card goes below a certain speed. If
he clearly he was going to, so again he was exposed. The other
interesting is the Secret Service Manual of Protection clearly states that any windows above the
fifth floor of the building have to be shut and if anyone opens the wind
above the fifth floor or fifth floor or above, it will be investigated instantly.
So had that usual procedure been in place that day, the supposed six
story window that Osa was supposed to been firing for wouln't even been open much.
There's someone find a rifle out of it. So something was you know,
this protection that's supposed to be there just was not in place properly.
Also, because it's a large area and the Secret Service are quite small,
they're usually augmented by the local military. Now, again this is all on
record, it's not a hearsay. It's actually on the officer in charge of
provide additional protection from Fort Bragg just down the road. There was telephone the
morning before the arrival of Kennedy told that his unit was not going to be
needed, that other protection was being provided, and he actually protested us so
well, this is completely against the regulations. It's supposed to be us.
And he was told whoever it was, and he doesn't know who they spoke
to, and someone in the military had phoned him and said no, no
protection will provided by us, and there was no audition protection. There were
a number of secret military intelligence people indeed plaza that day, but they were
all there apparently on holiday or unofficially just observing. So why they were there,
no one really knows. But this is the kind of protection that was
supposed to be in place of the president, which comes back to the point
I'm making that it had to be someone involved in the American government, because
you know the math, he couldn't have got this kind of protection with me.
Nobody else could have done. It had to have been people involved with
high level protection who had to have had some kind of influence over events that
day. So that is all of it strange and unpleasant. Do you ever
think that he's popping up in the Kennedy is the disappearing lady? Did she?
Did she exist? This is a bit of a mystery. I've got
what you're referring to. It's become known as the Pabushka lady. Where isn't
be? She's wearing a large headscarf. Now, if you view some of
the photographs that exist, and of course there's apruda footage, but there was
also other footage that he recorded, not unfortunately not as clear or as close
to the car as a prudal was. A woman is apparently standing very close
by taking a photograph with a camera, but she apparently never came forward.
This is accorded to official reports. Was never identified at the time. Now
the interesting thing is she has come forward and has been identified, and name
was Beverly Oliver. She was a nightclub worker. She knew Jack Ruby,
and she was there because she's a big family president. She knew Ruby and
she'd worked at the nightclub that he owned and another one. But what she
said was the reason why she didn't come forward at first was that she had
a close friend for my dancer was no by Themajada, who had actually said
to a local reporter that she knew Ruby and knew there was something suspicious going
on and two days later was sound dead. Now, Oliver was similarly just
a sort of dancer of the nightclub. And if she thought to herself,
well, if my mate gets bumped off because she's told the public, I
told the news media that she thinks she is going on, then she thought
to herself, I'm not gonna say anything. I don't want to get killed
the way she's been killed. So that's why she didn't come forward initially.
But she did come forward in the nineteen eighties, and again she showed the
clothing that she wore that day and the camera because it took the camera from
him, that she had took the film and gave the camera back, and
she says, I'd love to have got that photograph back because I would have
had probably the closest photographs to the actual assassination of anybody. But she's been
identified with a bush lady is Beverly Oliver. It's been established compretely, but
it's one of those things. It's like, you know, people talking about
the royal conspiracy of the Jack Rick, you know Jack Rippler murders. That's
been completely proven to be false. There's no royal conspiracy, yet the eyea
still bounces around. Beverly Oliver has been identified as been of a bush for
lady, but it's not almost university recorded for some reason. Okay, go
ride in the Chapman said, do you think there's an a possible link between
the Kennedy's assassination and the murder of Marilyn Monroe. Not really, So I
don't think Marilyn Monroe was murdered. I think see why I were talking this
earlier on that Marion Monroe committed unfortunate and unintentionally committed suicide. She was found
very very seriously in bed. She was taken to a hospital and they took
her to revive her. When they failed to revive her, they took her
back to a room and put her back in bed. Now that might sound
a bit ludicrous, but I think it was just one of those things that
tried to look after her and protect her from herself or anything else, because
she was actually a party given by I think it was Frank Sinacher a number
of weeks before she died, and she was clearly losing the plot. Frankly,
she was walking around on all fours and parking at people. She was
on the even on the version of nervous breaked down on going through nervous breakdown.
So I don't think she was ever murdered. I think the evans To
suggested that she did actually commit suicide. They tried to revive her. When
they failed for whatever reason, they took her back to a room and put
her back in bed so she'd be found later on that day by her maid.
She was actually found. Bobby Kennedy's assassination is a different matter. Again.
I think some of the forces behind his older brother John's assassination were actually
certainly involved in Bobby's assassination, and partly I think because he was going to
carry out the same policies as John Kennedy was going to, I end the
Vietnam War quite quickly and basically take about the CIA like his an older brother
was going to, which is what we're gonna get onto in a minute about
the real reasons why the assassination took place. So, yeah, I don't
think Monroe herself was actually murdered. There was only a link. To me.
She was having an affair with both of them. There's no doubt about
that at all. There's evidence for that certain But I think she cannot be
the suicide. They tried to revive her failed and to put it back in
bed. So I hope that I was, which is a bit of a
strange thing to do, Oh, very much, the strange things to do.
I mean what they just say, yeah, she was found and died,
it'd be a lot easier and no silly questions. I don't I don't.
I don't quite know why they did that, but it's from what I've
read and viewed on sort of on video, it was early. It's one
of those things that if you look at all the evidence, that's what it
suggests happened in anomalous Why in terms of you know, what's I don't think
she was made. I don't think she knew anything that was significant enough to
have her bummed off. What was she what could she know that was that
important that would make her that that dangerous to them because it wasn't that big
a mission that she was having an affair with both brothers. It was that
big of a secret. It was one of those things that was known known
in Hollywood at the time. I mean, it could just be that they
were worried about Pillow. Talk again, what could she tell them that they're
going to say? Necessarily, it depends on what obviously on what was like
to tell her. But who knows. You've I think you've partly answered this
question of all the people involved who could have killed JFK, Who, in
your opinion, is more likely and why? Oh this is this is the
big one, isn't it. This is probably the real question personally speaking,
and I think a lot of the more serious researchers. Again, it's a
little bit like the chat the Ripper. You know, there are lots and
lots of people right about it, but only those who look at those suspects
we talked about before, those three main suspects. Who look outside those and
you bark up the wrong tree. Similarly with this one, the lots of
strange and wonderful theories, but at the end of the day, when you
have to look at the evidence of what happened on the day, which is
why I've talked about it so much to begin with, is that who had
the power to remove this level of protection from Kennedy. The answer can only
be elements within the American government at the time. Now I say elements because
I don't want to say the whole American government was behind it, because course
Kennedy was part of the government. But you have to look at some of
the historic inventor had occurred prior to the assassination since Kennedy become president. First
and foremost, when he became president and he inherited a war against Castro,
now which you probably know. Obviously, nineteen fifties there was a commist revolution
in Cuba and Batista, who was a ruler of them, was kicked out
of the country and Castro took over. Initially, Castro was actually quite friendly
with the American government to look like they were going to help him gain power,
but it quickly became quite clear he was going on the communist route,
which a mostly front of the crap out of them. They didn't like the
idea of having a communist government ninety miles off American short which is where Cuba
would be, because of course they had strong links then to Russia, and
it meant Russia had a sphere of influence in the Western hemisphere, so it
scared the Believas out of them. So Kennedy had inherited a plan to basically
invade Cuba and overthrow Castro. He was told by the CIA that the plan
was very much in the working. So there was a lot of support in
Cuba for a revolution, a counter revolution, shall we say, and that
all it would take is just these to assist the guys who were the dissidance.
If you were living in Many in Florida, give them weapons and training,
and arm them and help them. They'll be able to overthrow Castia quite
easily. When the invasion took place, which knows the Bay of Peace,
which is quite famous, Kennedy did discovered basically there was nothing like what they'd
been told. They actually the Cuban army rule well armed and were ready for
them. That there was actually a lot of support for cast in Cuba,
and that the CEO had tried to basically light him and try to manipulate it,
in manipulate, manipulate him, if you say it, into providing additional
cover into the military presence and air cover, and Kennedy said, no,
no way, and I'm not getting involved in this. So they felt kind
of betrayed because they've been very effective up until that point in the CIA in
carrying out couonitars and overthrown governments, that kind of thing. They'd done it
in Iran and Guatemala previously. They had they'd rescued the Dalla Alarm and protected
him from the Chinese government, and they were quite proud of all that kind
of stuff, and then suddenly the whole thing out with Cubicans a disaster.
You know, the men are caught on the beach. Most of them are
killed or captured, and the CIA looked like idiots basically, and they don't
like looking at idiots. So they were very, very angry with Kennedy.
And then followed by the Cuban missile crisis. I'll get onto that one first.
What happens even before that one, because obviously Kennedy then the head of
the CIA. Both director and definitely director are fired. And now these guys
have been there since the beginning of the CIA. They were Alan Dullas and
Richard Bissell. They were the CIA, you know, it was their brain
job. But he went further than that in a memorandum which obviously at the
time was kept secret, came out a few years later, and I'm just
going to grow up the actual file. He issued a document called an ass
Security Action Memorandum number fifty five fifty six fifty seven, in which he was
directing the military intelligence the Army to basically take over the roles carried out by
the CIA. Was literally dismantling the CIA, taking him apart and saying,
nope, these guys are finished. CIO wherever supposed to do her stuff outside
of the American borders. And he said I'm not. I mean that basic
military intelligence are to take over and run this so effectively. He was trying
to take the CIA out of the picture, take him up, and end
them. But one of the changes that occurred, because most of this never
happened, they resisted of they the military and the CEO were good friends and
didn't want to drink each other's toes. But one thing that did happen was
the anti Castro Cuban activity was handed over to the military intelligence and the name
of Operation Mongous Mungous was just black ops operations in trying to get rid of
Castro by subptitious means anything for him, trying to poison him, to make
his beard fall out, to all sorts of different ways, and trying to
kill him off. Basically, rather than all that invasion, they're trying to
do it very discreetly, including assassination of terms including hiring and finding good gunman.
And it's come back to that in a little while. So that was
already in play before if you'd miss o crisis, because obviously the CIA thought,
well, if you'd let us get rid of a Castri back in nineteen
sixty nine, sixty one, would never have happened with the CIA, would
have been able to stop Castria were getting rid of him, would have made
sure that the Russians couldn't put the missiles into tubules Espaceally, the classes was
about because the Americans discovered quite by chart through high lean photography that the Russians
had actually were installing nuclear missiles in Cuba. So of course both the CIA
and the American military were urging Kenada to invade Cuba. But trouble is,
by that point there were Russian missiles and Russian military in Cuba. The result
of effect would undoubted the World War Three, because there's no way Russia was
simply stand by and allowed their men to be killed orthough their equipment to be
destroyed by the Americans without retaliating. They would invaded Berlin. That was the
first thing, that was always their plan. So he realized that there was
no way on earth that you could let this turn into any kind of war.
So gain he was up against the military and the CIA because they wanted
this statue to take place. So again they were very upset with him,
especially when he messed to cut a deal, which is basically, do you
want to deal with the Russians to draw missiles from Cuba if the Americans drew
missiles from Turkey were going to do anyway. So it wasn't a big secret,
big mystery, but the very fact that he was prepared to deal with
the Russians rather than go to war with them anger these people even more so
that was like number two blow. So so at this point he's got the
military and the CIA very much against him, two big powerful organizations to start
with. And I've also read that Kennedy had his own money printed and was
planning to take the Treasury out of the loop. Is this true and could
it be another reason for his death, because once again that's another big powerful
your lobby, absolutely very true that the obviously the Bank of England in this
country is controlled completely by the government, but in America it's affected a separate
organization. The Federal Reserve Bank prints money and they can set the interest rates
based on that. Kennedy wants to take that power away from them and wanted
to actually have the Bank of America, not the Bank of America as in
the private company, but the Bank of America if you like, Bank of
said, if you want, would then bank the presidents print money themselves directly
as we do over here. Of course, a massive financial lesson interested for
that not to happen. And a lot of this is again to do with
the financial backers of the CIA, because the CIA themselves are of related small
organization, but they obviously they can direct billions of funding towards sorts of products
and plans. And if there's suddenly have less control over the finances because the
government on the kind of demonstration was more directly in control of it, then
they wouldn't like that at all. So yeah, he was taking away the
conventional banker's power and bring it more into Congress. The other body of power
that were against him was the American oilment or businessman again were incredibly rich,
but he wanted to revise the tax laws on their oil weld and he revised
the legislation about who can drill. Were again weaken in their power and taking
money from them. So what, I don't think either the Federal Reserve or
the big oilming were directly involved in this. They may would have helped fund
it, because obviously this money had to come from somewhere to fund a note
operation like this. They may have provided the funds to allow this. See
I don't think you're talking about the CIA as a whole organization or even merchantats.
It's a whole organization, but just a few like one in individuals in
the powerful and opposition to orchestrate a conspiracy assassination. As I said before,
we know full well that the CIA and mafia worked closely together because the mafia
wanted Castro out of Tube because they had had basically they control all the gamming
each tuber, and that was worth billions to them. They'd lost all that
money, you know, every penny, every dollar we sent that was in
the Cuban banks before the overthrow of Batista were confiscated by Castro. And we're
talking about millions and millions and millions of dollars that this the mafia had lost
because of Castro. So they were very much in favor of getting red and
they had the equipment, they had the men who could carry out assassinations,
there's no doubt about it. So they regularly didn't bump each other off.
So those connections ran very deep right into the core of the CIA, the
connections of people who were what they call local called field operatives. I forget
the exact term they given, but they were basically were the liaisons between elements
in the CIA and elements of the mafia, so they linked to were very
very close, so basic a. Jeff didn't stand the chance study he had
all the major power brokers in America against him. Yep. By nineteen sixty
three there was nobody powerful left that he had already pissed off. But it
was all to the good for the people. This is the thing and he
was. It's one of the things that was quoted a while ago, and
I thought, actually, is quite a good quote. He was one of
the first presidents of the twentieth century. He believed he was actually president,
as in he had the right to do these things he was. Okay,
of course, there was the film by Oliver Stone. Just how accurate do
you think that was a reasonably accurate I have to say for my own researchers
and reading now, I've just heard a little story about that. I didn't
see the film itself at the cinema. I must have missed it, and
I was seeing a girl local to me at the time in the early nineties
when it came out on the videos. Wasn't those days, of course,
and I wasn't actually working as an employed for a while. She said,
you might find this interesting, you know, sort of American history. So
I was all just in it. Anyway. Now I've heard sort of vague
stuff about sussination Kennedy, and I actually thought, well, maybe this old
person, he did do it on his own. You know that it was
all big who ha. The film is over three hours long. I sat
and watched it in silence and amazement, all three hours of it. As
soon as it finished, I rewound it and watched it all again. So
I could not believe what I just watched. I was just this can't be
true. This is frightly beyond belief that they've actually killed their own president.
But when you start reading the books, I mean, obviously he recommends a
couple of books that are the films based around, but I've got twenty odd
books I've read on the subject, you know, some of the more way
out once, some of the more serious ones, and I thought, you
know, he's got it accurate here. I mean, okay, there are
some bits. I think Oliver Stone would say that the conspiracy of assassination was
bigger than it was in terms of people involved. But there's a big change
over here because you have a small number of people involved in the conspiracy to
assassinate the president, but a lot more people were involved in the conspiracy to
cover up what really happened. This is where it gets a little complicated,
and I'll try and explain what I mean. I think that the rumor got
out very quickly, false rumor, that false flaggers because because people like to
call it that either Castro or the Russians were behind the assassination, that that
was the real truth that they were putting up the Oswald smoke screen to cover
up the fact that it was either Castro or the Russians or together they had
assassinated Kennedy and if that came out, it would lead to World War three.
So people were pulled into a conspiracy of cover up for fear, genuine
fear of what would happen if the supposed truth came out. I know for
the fact that again all record is not me making this up. All recorded.
Earl Warren, who was the head of Justice, basically was that the
headge judge got the roles killed there. But anyway, he was told by
Lyndam Johnson, you are going to head up the investigation. The Warren commissioner
it became known, and he three times refused point blank to be involved because
he was told what they'd have to be the final we're going to be so
so at the beginning, the FBI had already decided this a week after the
assassination. Katzenback has said two days after the assassination, we have to prove
to the country that Oswald acted alone and the three shots fired. So you
have Earl Warren being told basically by Johnson and co. That this is the
finings. You have to find these findings or they'll be world War three.
I think people were lied to. They were told that was the danger we
faced, that they could break out into World War three if it got out
to the public. That kind of was assassinated by either the Russians or Pastro
and Co. Or both. But of course that's a convenient light to cover
up the reality that it was actually carried out by elements of the domestic government,
of domestic intelligence services, people involved in the CIA, emlentary intelligence.
They were the two link together. I mean, the detail that come out
in the film is fantastic in terms of flashing out the whole story. The
guy who was responsible for primary responsibility or providing protection for Kennedy when he was
out and about on tour was a guy called L. Fletcher Prowty. He's
called X in the film player Dominsovolon, he's run as L. Fletcher Prowdy.
He his primary job is to sort out a secure additional protection when Kennedy
is out on tour. During this tour of the Southern States, El Fletcher
Party suddenly found himself being providing an escort for group of diplomats going to the
South Pole for three weeks, so he was effectively out of the way.
So ensuring that Kennedy didn't get his proper protection was relatively easy because the man
whose mainly responsibility to organize it was out of the way. And he said
himself, this is bizarre why I was sent out. There was a mystery,
but he said the next morning he was in New Zealand, flying back
from the South and he had a New Zealand newspaper with all the biographical details
history and life of Lee Harvey Oswold already in the newspaper. But when this
newspaper came out, it was two o'clock in the afternoon on the twenty second
in America. So, how the hell did the New Zealand newspaper company have
this information about a suspect that had been named half an hour before? And
they said himself, the only way that's possible that it's what we call it.
It's a cover story. It's been put out as a cover story for
what's really been going on. Unfortunately, the information got out too soon,
and this the state was made. I've got the paper, you know,
this was printed the same day as the assassination. Yet to have all this
additional information, where the hell did it come from? Now you've got X
in the film saying that. So I didn't digging around and found Proftice saying
this in a number of his own books. You know, he really was
who he said he was. He was X. So you have this information
showing that people within the American establishment, again not the whole body, just
small individuals, were sufficiently in a position to ensure that the protection was removed.
That would have meant it would be impossible to shoot Kennedy. But then
to bring in, as I say, most likely mafia gunman, because they're
the ones who would be harder to trace. Obviously, anyone in the military.
Who's a good crack shot would be you know, you wouldn't use them
because it's too close to home. But the contract itself apparently went out to
the French Corsic and mafia. Again, there's a trail of evidence showing a
link between a guy called Christin David who had links and had worked with a
guy called Michelle Nicholey Hiit up in the names and Nicolay was actually a part
of witness protection program because he'd given evidence against the mafia over the years.
And he said that I was contacted by an individual who didn't name, who
was involved in the CIA to find the gunman, and he said that he
wouldn't do it because it was it was too risky. When he discovered it
was to be carried out in America, he said, no way, that's
too dangerous. But he said, I know a man he might be able
to help you, Kristian David, who unfortunately died in prison a few years
ago. And Christian David then made contact with the guy over in Corsica to
find that the mafia gunman who were capable and had the ability to do the
shooting. Now, if those who might have tuned into the show. The
last time we talked about this, I talked about just the day itself.
Will remember me showing you the photographs of Badgeman and the images. Do you
remember that, guys? Yep, I don't know how everybody else does.
Yeah, well, if not, they should check out the last time I
talked about this. It's I'm obviously available on YouTube, and I noticed who's
got the links of the images as well. But they will show you a
man who is clearly dressed. It's very faint, it's very un blur,
but you can kind of get the impression of it's a man standing behind the
fence on the grass and knole who's wearing a uniform. Now apparently the gunman
who was given the task of shooting for the front light to wear a uniform
of the local police to blend in. He had a very distinctive hairline.
Who's but like Steve's there actually can see these he lies three a ball towards
the front and this well, this guy has a similar hairline. And you
see a photograph of this man on his passports and it looked like him and
his name and I completely forgot his name. That typical, don't believe it.
I'll give you a second, it'll come back to me. Unfortunately,
the guy himself died in a gunfight in Mexico in nineteen seventy four, but
those who knew him said he was incredibly risk taker, so he's quite lucky.
He's the kind of person who would have jumped at the contract. And
he was known to like to wear the uniforms of military or police in the
area where he was carry out his contract killings because he could blame him better.
And also he liked to use what are called fragible bullets, and he's
a bullets that actually explode a sintigrat and impact. They're not dumb dumb bullets
because they asked they split as they go through, but these are actually I've
contained all charge inside and they explode, which would explain the damage to the
Kennedy's head, because it's been said before, they seem to be more than
the damage you expect from one bullet. It could be the perhactically run along
the line of the bone to fracture it. But if it was Lucy Insati,
it came back to me eventually, it would if it was Lucian Insiety
actually firing for the right front with his frangible exploding bullets. Then it makes
perfect sense of about to damage your silk and into his head. And they've
tried to track the movements of this guy. He and a couple of other
government actually do disappear of mid November nineteen sixty three. They're untraceable, and
they turn up again early December back in Corsica, all three of them.
There were two other people as well, carrying a very large amount of cocaine.
Now, these people are never paid in cash. They're usually paid in
cocaine or other drugs because it's he actually actually easy to convert, harder than
to trace, believe it not, apparently, but these guys turn up with
all this massive amount of cocaine and was and they convert it back into French
francs. At the time, you've got this picture that you kind of build
up the bits and pieces of the picture and say that this guy is most
likely the person who carried out the assassination, who actually fired the shots.
Now, one of the things that came about the Jaffa films things also quite
true, is that the good charts these guys had no idea who they were
really hired by They wouldn't care. You know, they've given a job,
they'd do the job they've given. They don't ask questions, so they probably
wouldn't. No idea that was almost certainly elements within the American government who actually
secure their services. Show is so. But we know they had links to
the American authority because they've been used before to care out assassinations. Again,
this all a record, It's not just me sort of waving nowhere. You
know, you can find the stuff for yourself. So that's I mean,
in fact, he said he likes to take risks. We would explain why
the head shot, because most snipers wouldn't use a head shot. Well,
that's the thing, you see, it's one of those things you can guarantee
someone's going to be killed, and that would pretty damn sure against they're going
to dive. He hit in the head. But I think one of the
other it's about why is it was a very public execution. I think it
was done in order to demonstrate to others who might consider trying to go against
these people. And again I keep saying, these people are not talking about
a mass organized conspiracy're not talking about Illuminati anything like that. Here we're talking
about a small people, a small group of people who were like commanded,
who would gain a lot and lose nothing by knocking it out just using the
skills and tactics. They already had, their abilities, they already had,
this infrastructure was already in place. So just just a few power brokers.
Yeah, exactly, you publicly execute this guy as a warring to anybody else
who thinks they can get the better of us. By the time November sin
since we came along, there was no powerful body in America who were not
against Kennedy. He was against. He was dismounting every vessel interest you could
think of. Pretty much it was and they knew they couldn't bribe it,
while when you have own financially, they couldn't blackmail him because he didn't care,
you know, knew said multiple affairs. It was no secret his family
were incredibly wealthy, and their worth had come from illegal activities. His father
had been a smug drink across the border from Canada during the nineteen twenties during
the prohmission period, So he had close links to the mafia himself or it's
his father certainly did. So that really gives you the idea of that these
people have to be somewhere in high authority. They have to be someone of
power to ensure certain changes that take place. Now, interesting enough, matter
of fact, Prouty I spoke about earlier Sally a bit of drink. He
said that his immediate boss was there on the day. He says, if
you look at the photograph of the three tramps, which we did talk about
last time, as I'll cover again briefly, these three men were pulled off
of the trains in the sidings behind the grassy knoll, were supposed to have
been trans All three of them addressed relatively good clothing. They were clean shaving,
neat hairstyle, good shoes, but were firstly supposed to be tramped.
The three of them disappeared. They were never interviewed, they were never questioned.
There's no record of who they were as ever recorded. But yet their
photograph was being taken away by police officers. There's also another man in the
same pictures who's walking away from the cameraman. And when Priorally saw that photograph
he said, that's my old boss. That's absolutely my old boss. I
can tell by the way I worked with it out for thirty years. I
can tell the way he walks, its hairstyle, even that ring in his
finger. He could see the picture. That's my boss. What on earth
was he doing there? But he was the one that sent priority to the
South Pole a week before the assassination, so you could say, you know,
you can't say for definite, but there's pretty good evidence that he was
one of the senior figures who was involved in planning the assassination. Now his
main as for this completely stipulody is out there. You can find it.
You know. He was one of the direct liaisons between military intelligence and the
CIA. Moss is asking the question, is it said, wouldn't the real
assassins have been taken out so dead men don't talk? It's about it really,
wouldn't These people we are talking about mafia hitman. They know their job,
they know what they do for them. It's just another man. It
was it was nobody. It was just impersonal and told to take. They
have the code of silence. You know, Mafia's code of silence is pretty
pretty powerful. You know, you speak one word out of line by blah,
you go, it's called the call it I mean, it's a Matthea
thing general. But apparently, of course, if the mafia are very very
strong in this code of silence. It's called something in Italian. I can't
what it's called, but yeah, they were. Guess why they use it
because they know for whether they would never ever report it to anybody what they've
done, that would be kept go to their grave with them anyway, because
it's more than their lives are worth to say anything. So they you know,
they're they're paid massively. You know, they're not just paid for the
job. Their whole lives are protected. They're all part of the whole structure
of a Matthew organization. As it was over there, you got no chance
of of anybody admitting to killing Kennedy. Absolutely the malue that it's called,
they wouldn't do it, you know, you just it's just not done.
Those sorts of circles. You know, what would you gain by saying if
you know for what, they'd kill you? Well, I was going to
ask and did the Royan Commission to investigated the assassination? Probably, but the
obviously wasn't. But he was told what to say, so absolutely not.
From the beginning cover up, You've given us a pretty good case for it
being a conspiracy, well a little, but okay, can you now give
us one against it? No, I'm sorry, literally I can't, because,
as I say, if the only altern of his old action alone,
and that just remains utterly possible, there's no way Osbalt alone could have been
fired from a sixth fold window when the Secret Service would have had that window
closed unless they weren't there. There's no way he could shoot that rifle the
way he fired it, because I say, even the FBI's marksmen could not
replicate his shots until they adjusted the sights on the rifle. And there's no
way a rear hit on anyone's head would send them backwards. It just doesn't
happen. Yeah, good, let's pick a point. It didn't go forward
and then back. It went straight back. Didn't it straight back? Absolutely?
You watch it yourself. You can see it. I watched it from
in slow motion over and over again. His head jerks back into the left.
There's no you know, there's no two ways about it. I mean,
the government tried to argue that it was the jet during effect of his
head explosion, that when it went the same direction, but it's never happened
in history before you know, as the similar film. Anyone who's only intwit
a gunfire will tell you straight away that bullet's covered in the front, say
Charles brem who was very close by it military saw the shot and said,
that's come from over there, up the grassy knoll. But I mean,
yeah, give you some other stuff as well. That wily back up this
even further. One of the guys who died fairly soon afterwards was a guy.
His name again it's just a state which is very annoying. I see
Lee Bowers. Lee Bowers. He worked for the railway company. He was
in a signal box at the back of the car park, which is the
back of the grassy not He said that he had been closed off the area
by the police from ten o'clock in the morning. But yet three cars came
in between ten o'clock and the assassination. And with the third car came in
not much fifteen minutes before, and the guy clearly was talking on a radio,
so he as seen his secret service or something like that. He then
he said, he then saw at the corner of the car park of the
in the grass where the picket fences, two men. One of them appeared
to be in uniform. Is his testimony. He's actually in the Warren report,
and he said at the time of the shooting, he said something happened,
there was a flash or something happened at the moment of the assassination.
I mean he used describing gunshots and he said there's a flash, and he
said, there's two men there and another men further down the fence. And
as soon as they saturday gone, I went by. He's been walked away.
And this is actually in the Warld Commission report. The man, questioningly
barrassed, goes to another subject. He asked no questions about this. He
doesn't ask him to explain or refers back to what he just said. It
just moves on to something else. Is actually in the report. This is
what Jim Garrison, the actual real man, he was in the JFK film.
That's the attorney in New Orleans. That's what got him wonder what the
hell's going on? This guy is stating that him quite clearly that he's seen
this happen, and yet it's ignored. So that was a pretty powerful evidence
that something was going on at whatever level. So there you go, Ladies
and gentlemen killed by the Americans not finished yet right off this second just got
this last very important point. Oh, I have to I have to change
that anyway, because he was he was actually murdered by the Corsicans. The
Matthew did the actual gun that Matthia meant did the actual gun fire. Of
the organizations were definitely CIA CIA nineteen hundreds linked, but interesting enough, in
the late seventies they a magazine Who's going I forget now I'm having a bit
of a brain new Freeze today. Basically, it was discovered that one of
the outriders of the patrol following the car was microphone was stuck on open and
its standard procedure is to record all communications on police radio. So they had
a recording that was actually taken at the time of the shooting. And the
recording is obviously it's not very clear because it's an old record and it's you
know, it was laying a drawer for years for the re is what the
head it was. There is noise on there, and it's been suggested you
can hear up to six shots being fired, up to six, which is
probably more likely the actual totals. One did briefly get onto what I think
actually happened, how it actually took place. But the interesting thing was they
were not sure about some of them, but there were can convinced utterly there
was at least four shots recorded, clearly shots individual ones. So they decided
to reopen the investigation because this was a heart of escape evidence, and the
House Assassinations Committee met and reviewed the evidence, all the evidence, including those
rather dodgy autopsy photographs, which I said they never showed to the men in
Dallas, who would have been able to say least photographs of fate didn't show
it on It is ridiculous. But one thing they did come to conclusion was
there was undoubtedly on the audio analysis four shots fired. They were still stuck
by the idea of Oswald acting alone, and still stuck with the idea of
Osward fired the shot that killed Kennedys, but they admitted there had to be
a second gunman firing a fourth shot. That was the official report. They
didn't say when which one it was they expected second or third or four shots,
didn't say, They didn't. They suggested it may have come of the
front, but didn't say again which one of those, or whether it was
one to hit Kennedy or not. They said they didn't know, but they
concluded that there were four shots. By definition, that's a conspiracy because two
people are firing. But that is an official report. But and this is
the stupid bit, it doesn't replace the World Commission report. The World Commissary
report still stands as official. So he got two official reports for the American
government of how the assassination happened. And they're different. They contdict each other,
yet they're both the official reports. It don't make any sense, does
it? How can you let me? But that's how it's working over there,
that both reports are seen as the official, deverative explanation of the assassination.
But they said different things, and one doesn't override the other one.
There we go. Firstly, I think six shots are fired. I think
there was the shot and then in the back of Kennedy was a loan shot
by itself, probably fire from the building nearby, the much lower down.
Then I think the shot one shot. First one was fired from the grass
as a role, which hit Kennedy in the throats. As I said before,
that was a win of entry. Then I think a shot was fine
again from behind. This is the one that hits Connolly and goes through him
at some point or other. There's another shot that's fine, that miss is
completely the car and is the one that injures James Tage. Then another shot
is fired which missus Kennedy again but then hits Connelly in the wrist and then
lifts in his leg. And then the shot from the front. Second shot
from the front, mind you, which gets Hennady in the head. That's
six shots from three different fires. Firing people find different directions. I think
that's what happened. That's my own personal explanation. I know, obviously near
ten o'clock, but I'm not doing any my mister conspiracy stuff because obviously this
is the big conspiracy, so we're not too bad on tire. But to
me, that's what happened. Three shooters, three different locations. Three fired
from behind. I took four or five from behind, two from the front,
the first pick in the I kind of find it amazing that with all
these world shots the missed the target. How the hell did Jackie not get
hit? Well, only one shot missed. The hits are obviously Connolly,
but then you look at it, if you look at the line of alignment,
she was okay, She was over to one side. She wasn't in
the line Connolly's hit because he's in line basically with the lower shots, not
the ones from above, not the high up shots, but the lower shots
if they come from probably the books called the Dull Tax Building, which is
next door, which was officially closed at the time, so anyone could get
in there. There's actually a photograph that shows it's hard to see, but
it's definitely a shadowy figure standing in a window on the second floor of the
Dull Tax Building. They're supposed to be empty b and the windows are open,
and you can see the outline side of the head and an arm in
the shadows. He's clearly in that window. Also, there was a guy.
In fact, there's several people who are crossed the way from the school
Book Depository building who saw a rifle sticking out the window of the six four
and so they could see two men with the rifle, one o the pig
on a radio. And it was like some thirty odd people saw that.
But because they were happened to be in a jail cell as a gel overlooked
the new Plaza, they were discounted because they were inmates. Okay, so
there might be in prison. They are waiting charges. It's only holding self.
Does that mean they're lying, all of them? But they all said
they saw more than one man and that window I mean, I mean it
also said the presumer sniper wasn't that good because no actual proper sniper would have
his bowl anywhere near the bloody window. Well that's exactly from at least,
so it doesn't show. Yeah, well they weren't that bothered in one respect.
They weren't that bothered. They were doing what they were told to do,
and that really they succeeded. The cover up there's almost completely worked.
I mean, the ARA, whence you really put it together, is clearly
something very wrong. I say, if you eliminate everything else, you have
got the simple facts of the rules of Secret Service protection. This is how
it's supposed to be done, this is how it's always done. In fact,
only a month previously, Anna Stevenson, who was the American ambassador to
the UN was actually attacked because he wasn't given sufficient protection. So they'd already
actually up to protection because of what had happened previously. But the interesting thing
is, and this is another little side which has really got fascinating in about
a week before Kennedy went to Dallas, he did a tour of Miami and
there was a police informant in Miami who was actually informing and listening in on
conversations and was friends with a guy who was from a far right movement who
had links to American oil business. And they got into conversation which is always
called it in this guy always called it in his flat. They were talking
about Kennedy and I must have hated him, and this other man revealed that
there was a plan in the workings to eliminate Kessing at Kennedy. Now that
got back to this CIA, to the FBI, saorry, and they actually
uped the protection in Miami because they thought that was obviously the sight was going
to happen. The interesting thing is Robert Groden, who did the analysis of
the Zapruda film Alvious, come for all the photographs and he found that this
guy I'm talking about who said there was plans in the workings, was actually
in dani Plaza that day. He's actually kepted in a photograph. Now,
what's this guy doing there unless he already knew something? And he said,
the weird thing is you can see the photograph, everybody's waving and cheury.
Apart from him, he's like stony face, just looking forward, looking towards
Kennedy and thinking he's there because he's known something's going to happen. He's there
to witness it. This is really creepy. And the other thing just lastly
that again kind of throws the whole thing out the window that it resolved with
acting alone. There was a woman called Roe Sherriman. She was a prostitute
that was she kicked out of a car and picked up the day before the
assassination in Dallas. She was obviously high on drugs and then looked like they'd
betterally trying to run her over and failed, and she was going on over
and over again that she had traveled up to Dallas with men who were going
to assassinate Kennedy. Someone please stop them. This is the day before the
assassination happened. And she was saying, these men are going to kill Kennedy.
I've traveled with them, are going to kill Kenedy, Please someone stop
them. He actually appears in the very beginning of the Jerk of film.
But you know, how the hell does she know that? You know,
put a prostitute. He was called working for the mafia, doesn't mean to
the Matthea. So you just left this conclusion. There's no way on her
that Oswald dreaded up this whole plan all by himself, decided that day he
was going to go up to the window and shoot Kennedy. I'm getting another
problem is Kenny was running late. What's what should already been up in that
window by the time the garden was due to arrive. At called him past
twelve, not twelve thirty when it didn't arrive. And yet there are reports
of again viable, believable reports of Oswald being downstairs the building he worked up
to twenty minutes past twelve. Now, if he was definitely assassin, he
would already have been at that window for the past twelve, and yet he
wasn't. So what's going on? You know? How did he know the
cars running fifteen minutes a low? Yeah, I mean I can understand.
I'm not taking any notice of the post duke when she was high on drugs
at the time, but somebody should have picked it up it afterwards. Yeah,
but she was still again like Lee Bower, she died soon afterwards.
Lee Bowers died in a car crash on a sling single lane road on his
own, no other vehicle, just planned into a tree. Ro Sherman was
kicked by another car again, this time died again within weeks of the assassination.
But she was, you know, she was talking about the place,
he said, Dallas, where she was traveling to, and it was going
to happen tomorrow, which she was on the thursd of the twenty first and
twenty seconds. And when this actually took late, you know, it wasn't.
She was just saying something vague or the would be assassination. She said
where and when? And she was right. How does she possibly know that?
So there you go, ladies, just and everybody else you might be
listening. That's that's the thing. So one of the things I wanted to
just briefly talk about. You know, this is a conspiracy. This is
involving a small number of like minded individual powerfully positioned, who decided that they
wanted to get rid of a president who was going against everything that they stood,
what they believed in. This is different to any other kind of conspiracy
we've talked about before. You know, we're not talking about one hundreds of
thousands that were being killed by this or being drawn into a war. In
fact, the most powerful factor behind all this was that Kennedy was going to
end the Vietnam War. He wasn't You signed a National Security memberround in two
sixty three to withdraw the troops from America from Vietnam to not have the Vietnam
War. Within a week of his assassination in the Johnson signed two seven three
that reverted the withdrawal of the troops and wrapped up massively their presence. This
led directly to the Vietnam War. So we're talking about, you know,
tens of thousands, one hundred found as the Americans dying because of the Vietnam
War. That would never have happened. If they had survived, it wouldn't
have been the Vietnam War. This is why I say it's the biggest one.
We talk about two half thousand and three thousand people dying in Fine to
eleven facts of conspiracy is being bigger, I don't think. So. This
was even bigger because it set the tone for American policy for the next fifty
years. You know, this idea. Prior to that, they hadn't really
got that much involved. I mean, okay, World War two obviously,
but they backed off and were quietly. They didn't have massive invasions. But
I think where they succeeded in that assassination and got their way, if you
like, got their billions and billions that the Vietnam War generated for and they
thought, well, we can do what how we like? Now can gung
ho and just take over the world if you want to. I think things
like later on stuff happening was because of this had worked, This had succeeded,
and it has succeeded. Kennedy is dead, and we have not one
person that's ever got the prison for this murder, not one person ever who
had a number of This is not the only court case, the garrisone.
There's been other court cases which have been liable cases. Because one man,
E Howard Hunt, who was heavily involved in the Watergate scandal, claimed adamantly
he wasn't there, he was not involved in any way, shape or form,
But yet his own family said he was there on the day, and
he actually ended up being a court case and was found against him that he
was in Dallas on that day on official business, official CIA business. No
record of what that was, but he was proved to be lying that he
was there and he was working there as part of the CIA operation of some
kind. No details were ever given until his deathbed, and we actually talked
about this while ago. Steve one of his new stories it covered that he
actually a deathbed said yes there was an assassination. Yes, I was involved in