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Welcome to the KTPF Reload Show.
In case you're wondering what the Reload Show

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is about if you haven't heard previous
shows, these are the interviews that were

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conducted by a good friends of mine, Steven Sue Tagget in the days of

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the KTPF radio show. Their own
radio show around for just over four years,

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broadcasting every week for over the three
hours. I joined them in the

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last eighteen months of the show's run, but eventually the guys felt they've just

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about had enough. It was a
monumental effort to keep broadcasting every week for

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three hours. It was a wonderful
show. But unfortunately they no longer involved

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and the shows have just sort of
sat in the archive, so I thought

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it would be nice to bring them
back to life. Anyway, Hopefully you

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enjoy tonight's show, and this is
the KTPF Reload Show. Enjoy This program

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deals with themes of an adult nature
and is intended for a mature audience.

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Tonight, we're talking conspiracy theories,
and there is there is no other bigger

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conspiracy. Conspiracy theory will put my
teeth back in then the one we're going

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to speak about, and that is
the assassination of John F. Kennedy in

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on November twenty second, nineteen sixty
three. Now, well, well there's

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two biggis, but we're going to
get one later. One. Yes,

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So, as I say, was
he killed by the CIA, the KGB

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Aliens or by accident? Well,
Andy's on handy. It's one of his

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top subjects that he likes talking about, don't you Andy, Oh absolutely yes,

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So over to you. Well,
let me just play this as a

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start off. As we know,
originally the plan was I was doing show

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my own. I had all this
set up anyway, so thought I'll just

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play this. This is how the
America itself first learned of the events.

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This is a radio broadcast. I'm
sorry it's a TV broadcast, but it's

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audio because back in those days they
didn't have life feed so we do now.

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So I'm just gonna play this too, right Roe button. It will

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work eventually, It's just it's a
long bit slow for no obvious reason.

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Come on, yees say, Machine
President's car is now turning onto Elm Street

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and it will be only a matter
of minutes before he rides at the trademark.

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I was on Stimmons Freeway earlier and
even the freeway was jam packed with

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spectators waiting their chance to see the
President as he made his way towards the

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trade Marks. It appears as though
something has happened in the motorcade route.

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Something I repeat, has happened in
the motor Kate route. There's numerous people

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running up the hill alongside Elm Street
thereby the Simmons Freeway. Several police officers

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are rushing up the hill at this
time. Stand by just the moment,

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please, Something has happened in the
Motorcate route. Stand by, please.

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Barkton Hospital, there has been shooting. Parkland Hospital has been advised to stand

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by for a severe gunshot boom.
I repeat, a shooting in the motor

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case in the downtown area. Parkler
Hospital has been advised to stand by for

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a severe gunshot boom. The President's
card is now going past me. The

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limousine is now traveling at a very
high rate of speed. Secret Service men

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standing up in the limousine. They
are armed with submachine gun. The appears

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as though someone in the limousine might
have been hit by the gunfire. Put

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me on, They put me on, Come on on, we're here at

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the Trademark the moti Cator is coming
by. Here I can see many many

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motorcycles coming by. Now Police motorcycles
just had a common minial for all units

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along Industrial. It will pick up
the motor case. Something has happened here.

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We understand it. It's been a
shooting. The presidential car coming up.

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Now we know it's a presidential calling. And see this is Kennedy and

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peak. Shoot there's a secret service
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We have this man, Governor and
mister Parker. You are in the

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car with the President and missus Kennedy. We can't see the whole has been

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hit and if anybody is being hit. But apparently something is wrong here,

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if something is terribly wrong. I'm
in behind the moticat you knowing the polo

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the Hunters goes, they're going to
Parkland the hospital. Well, I'm the

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little two Parker at this time think
was covered by the spidal spread eco over

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whenever he was in the car.
The President and mister Kennedy, and then

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we understand Governor and mister Connelly at
this point a look as good. It

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could have been a lot or general
or even all of the people who within

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the car may have been the victims. They may have been struck by shops.

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We don't know. Part in the
hospital in the distance, not all

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high hindes, school of ard following
behind the moticator, many many police officers,

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maybe twenty or twenty five motorcycle policemen
falling in behind the play mart I,

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here's call left behind. What do
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The monicate? Now only gate not
perhaps still? And who blocks ahead

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of me? They are approaching the
entrance now two parks in the hospital's hobling

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at a highlight of speed. Lady
from I ain't got from ily boy,

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I'm pulling a Knight God park went
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at just gives you an idea of
how the Americans cells first heard about the

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events at Dallas. It was all
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one was really sure what the hell
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that even for those who had no
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if someone had been shot in the
car. What we now know is that

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President Kennedy had been assassinated. He'd
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killed him was through his head to
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I mean there was no chance of
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give up. He was taken to
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him, but it was it was
impossible. He was dead and was very

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soon afterwards taken off to the airport
to be flown back to Washington. Now,

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already things were going a bit a
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Texas law in fact, a murder
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and they said, nope, we're
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body back back to Washington. So
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these events, things are going strange. But there are other odd things as

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well. One of the first visual
reports I'll show, we say live reports,

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was a cut into a show on
CBS News which reported straight away the

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three shots have been fired at play
Kennedys motivated. And that was the first

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line of the first official report,
which is about forty minutes after the shooting.

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Now, there've been absolutely no investigation
of anyone anywhere into these events at

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that point, but they've already concluded
that three shots have been fired. Now

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It's never been established why CBS said
three shots, who told CBS, or

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where the idea originally came from.
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be and remain the government's official position
regarding the assassination right up to the late

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nineteen seventies, which I'll come back
to in a minute, But from the

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the investigation began to the end,
that was always the conclusion. Three shots,

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one government. The first thing we
wanted to look at really is the

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events that they itself. President Kennedy
was there on tour as part of a

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basically trying to gather support for the
election. It was a couple in sixty

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four. He narrowly, very very
narrowly, had won the election in nineteen

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sixty and he was obviously hopeful to
win the election in sixty four, and

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in fact that I think there was
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going to win by a large majority. Of The candidate that the Republican Party

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had chosen was seen as inexperienced in
a little week because they didn't really think

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they had much of a chance against
Kennedy. But he was out there doing

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a tour. The original plan was
to travel through d D Plaza as a

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morning tour of Dallas to go after
a place called the Trademark, which you

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heard mentioned in the raid radio CIP
were always going to give a speech and

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by of me there was a big
lunch and that sort of thing. Now,

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the d D Plaza itself is a
small sort of garden area for like,

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just on the west of Dallas.
The car was supposed to go down

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the central road of these three roads
in the triangle of DV paths and they'd

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hold our head off to the Trademark. But on the morning of the actual

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road trip the route was changed.
And this is one of another thing that

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suggestings are a bit strange because the
CIA, I'm sorry, the secret services

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have a very definite idea about how
a car where the president he is supposed

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to proceed. It's supposed to be
protective. It's supposed to take a certain

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route, and it's never supposed to
slow down below a certain speed, never

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supposed to change direction at more than
mighty degrees, so that obviously protecting the

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president. Now the car itself had
a bubble roof. It's like a big

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glass dough. It is bulletproof that
known to the bubble car. The link

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in the bubble car. Now,
if that protection was to be removed,

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then it had to be perhaps be
a lot more protection around the car at

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the time in order to make sure
the president was safe. But this didn't

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happen. Again, were there are
all sorts of problems with the level of

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protection that Kennedy received that day when
they drove it into the plaza. They'd

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actually reported in the newspaper the night
before, they'd shown the route on the

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cover of the newspaper showed go down
the Middle Road. But the morning of

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the year of the actual assassination,
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It headed sort of ninety degrees around
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and then took one hundred and twenty
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and carry on down the road.
So it was already doing the things he

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wasn't supposed to be doing, So
it had protection had been lessened, and

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it was following an unusual route that
wouldn't normally have been allowed. So again,

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something was definitely going on. That
was on even before this gun fastlighted

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to happen, and then these supposed
shots occurred, and that was very definitely

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killed one of the strange things,
of course, is this is all caught

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on video, which is the amazing
thing. The camera was mounted by a

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guy called Abraham Zapruda, just the
home video he was filming himself at home

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cameras. Thatt CNY camera was filming
at the side of the plaza. He

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actually captured twenty two seconds of video
footage which actually showed the assassination actually taking

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place, from the first moment of
the car turning on to Elm taking the

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toty wasn't supposed to take to going
right past him, and he's almost directly

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opposite when Kennedy's actually hitting the head. Now as the car goes past,

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of course he's kill. Something's very
obvious has happened, and there's something's definitely

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going very wrong. Now, there
were fifty seven witnesses actually in the plaza

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itself at the time of the shooting, and they all reported hearing obviously hearing

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shots. Now, a good two
thirds of those witnesses all ran towards roughly

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where's a prideable standing, towards a
small fenced area at the top of what

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became as the grassy. Now,
about thirty people ran straight away towards the

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area, and every single one of
them was convinced they had heard gunfire coming

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from that right front area. And
yet when the government began to investigate the

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CIA, the FBI first began to
investigate, they discounted that. They said

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that they ont belye there were only
three shots. The reason why they gave

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the idea of only being three shots
fired from the rear was they found a

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rifle and three bullet shells in a
building to the right rear of the president.

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Now, this is where the idea
of being three shots really starts to

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take off, but that wasn't found
to some time after the news report said

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three shots. So you're already thinking
that's a little bit odd, you know,

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if you go into the case,
you start think it's something a bit

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stranger on here. Why is it
they're saying these three shots and there's no

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relevance of the three shots. And
then lum behold, there's evidence of the

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three shots. These three shells found
behind the car. Now never found faius

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soon after, within a couple of
hours. So the FBI had this definite

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idea there was one gunman faring from
behind. As far as they were concerned,

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one shot was fired, it hit
Kennedy in the rear, came out

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the front. A second shot was
fired that missed Kennedy and hit Connolly,

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the other man of the guy who
had mentioned he was a government of Texas

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at the time, and then a
third shot hit Kennedy in the head.

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That seems pausal, seems possible.
The only problem was straight away that first

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theory shall we saved by the FBI
started to unravel because a guy who was

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standing on the far side of the
plant was actually hit by something during the

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gunfire during the shooting, and it
was either a fragment of bullet or possibly

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a fragment of stone from the curb. And a man called James Tabe was

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actually hit in the face. It
was only a small cart with his bleeding

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and whenever a police officer later on
pointed out to me, you have blogging

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in your face. He remembered feeling
something hit or sting his face around the

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time of the shootings, and he
said he heard the first gun fire,

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then he kind of ducked under the
bridge on the far side and felt something

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hit his face. When the curb
was checked, it showed there was actually

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a bullet mark and he clearly a
bullet had missed the car, so you

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were then left with only two bullets, because obviously this had to be one

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of those three shots that were supposedly
fired by a gunman at the time initially

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unnamed, firing from the building behind
which became known as the school book depository.

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Now, the interesting thing was that
if you've only got three bullets being

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fired by this supposed rifle that was
found there, because they might have at

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a time of five point six seconds
that the shooting had to take place,

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the rifle that was found could only
be what they call recycled. When you

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pull the bolt back and put the
bat back in again, took just over

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two seconds each time, so there
can only ever been three shots fired from

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that rifle in the time frame of
five point six seconds. It was not

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possible to have had more shots.
So the shot that missed the limousine and

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hit the curb had to have come
from one of those three shots. So

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then you take out that shot,
you've only left with two. The trouble

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is when you look at Kennedy and
Connelly, if you ignore the head shot,

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there were actually seven wounds these two
guys suffered as a result of this

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being shot at Kennedy, even according
to the official government report, is hit

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in the back of the neck,
comes out the front. It hits so

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Connelly, the guy in front of
him in the back, comes out his

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front, hits him in the wrist, goes him his risk an now he's

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risk again and lands in his leg. Now that's even the official government version

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of what happened. But we'll get
back to the real problems of that one

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in a little while. So you
have the idea of someone's firing from the

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rear, fired more than shots,
and they've all come from behind. The

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FBI had concluded this very early on, within a week of their investigation.

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But what's really interesting was an American
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must be has just slipped my mind, which is very annoying, used to

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be an investigative officer for the Senate. He actually had a letter written by

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a guy called Katzenback who was the
deputy A deputy always gone from my head,

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Deputy Attorney General, sorry I remember, actually a debit attorney general who

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was acting Attorney General at the time
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was not happy to work at that
point his brother just been murdered. He

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wrote to Hoover, the head of
the FBI, that it was important that

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we established in the public's mind as
soon as possible the idea of there being

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a lone assassin firing three shots.
He actually wrote that down, and Harold

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Weisberg, that's the guy actually has
the memoranda itself that shows Captain Back said

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that. And that was Monday morning
after the assassination on the Friday, And

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you think, what that's going on
there. They've already decided three shots have

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been fired from the rear and that
the FBI investigation has to prove that to

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be the case and do The Secret
Service had their own investigation, which was

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a little unusual as they tend to
leave these things to the FBI, but

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they included the same thing, exactly
the same thing that the way in which

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this has happened. Now, of
course, we all know the name that

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was put forward for the assassination was
Lee Harvey Oswald. But again there's a

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bit of a mystery there because nobody
knows where that name first came from.

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It was broadcast over the police radio
at one in the afternoon. But why

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that name was chosen who suggested this
person is a mystery. No one's ever

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come forward and say, actually it
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a guy to be investigated, so
that that, again is a little bit

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strange. Now, I hopeful this
isn't all getting a bit too confusing,

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because there's a lot I want to
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But is it making sense so far? Yeah, apart from the fact

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that when I saw the video it
looks like his head goes backwards. We'll

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get onto that one. Don't you
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biggest problem. Now there's a Bruda
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I'll come onto that. Now,
there's Aabruda film I've just mentioned. They

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didn't expect it to exist. You
know, no one thought that anyone was

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going to capture on film as clearly
as Zapruda did the assassination. Now,

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the film itself was brought by Time
Life magazine and on that day, and

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they pay something like one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars for it, which is

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equivalent to a couple of million pounds
a day, a million dollars today.

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And Zapruda sort couldn't believe his ears
and was like the suddenly very very rich.

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But they locked it away. Wouldn't
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to see it until I think it
was about a year later when the CBS

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anchorman reporter Dan Rada, was given
a chance to view it. That Dan

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Rather was well known at the time. He was seconding toward a conkait in

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terms of sort of public presence of
the laters and news reporter. He came

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into the studio all excited and described
the Zabruda film. And the thing is

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that at the end, which at
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nowhere verifying what he was saying,
but has since shocked a lot of people.

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He said. What he said was
he said about the bullets being hit,

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and the case president hit, his
head explodes and the head is violently

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thrown forward. Thrown forward, Dan
Rather actually says the president went forward when

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he was hitting the head. Now, everybody who's ever watched that video,

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we'll tell you one thing. Obvious, his head's going backwards. So where

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or why Dan Rather, who was
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was saying, that is a mystery, you know, he's never really been

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questioned about it. But the possibility
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it was adopted, because we found
that years later that before Time Life bought

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it from Zabruda, the CIA had
it that afternoon. It was only in

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the evening that is returned to Zabruda
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But CLA had access and viewed the
footage clearly in the afternoon before it

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was past the timeline, so it's
quite possible to them, and maybe they

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copied it and it into it and
showed that version, but for whatever reason,

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it didn't work. And now the
real version came to the surface a

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few years later by Jack with Robert
Grod and actually got hold of a copy

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of it, made it, copy
the original, made a copy of the

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two at the time off at the
time, and began to analyze it himself

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privately, with act anyone else knowing
about it. And what he concluded,

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he just said, was what on
earth is we're rather talking about? His

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head clearly goes backwards and to the
left, not forwards, So why rather

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said that? It means an absolute
mystery. And Mozzie's question about why I

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was taking out in the first place. I will definitely be getting onto that,

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and I want to talk about the
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just to set the scene before we
talk about really why this all happened?

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Is that that's the big question.
Of course, you know, we can

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discuss how it was done or who's
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is probably the biggest thing of all. So you can I just make a

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point there for what you just said
with the head going back backwards, he

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was clearly shot from the front.
Absolutely not the escaping that, as I

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said, But at the beginning,
more than two thirds of the people who

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were actually in the plaza itself ran
towards what's now known as the grassy.

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No, it was just a small
hill at the time. And an interesting

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thing was you could say, well, the baby, they were just following

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each other. But there was enough
people at the start who were running up

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there who thought there's something's going on
back here. One guy in particularly a

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guy called Charles bren who recently left
the military. He's been in World War

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iiO and experienced gunfire. He had
no doubt in his mind whatsoever that gunshots

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came from that grassy area. Beside. At this point before you go on

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where in relation to the Kennedy was
where Oswald was supposed to have fired from.

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I was always supposedly firing from the
sixth floor window of a building behind

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Kennedy. Kennedy at that point was
being driven along Elbe Street. As I

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mentioned, the building was like the
rear corner of Elm Street of dB Plaza.

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He was about two to three hundred
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of the firing and the ending of
the car moved forward somewhat. He also

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at one point would have to be
firing through a tree with leaves on it,

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because it's a Texas live oak,
which doesn't shed its leaves to all

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marks. Because Hoover said at the
time the tree had shed always leads because

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it was November, but that was
nonsense because the trees hasn't shed leave till

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March. So at least one shot
had to have been fired through the foliage.

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Maybe that's all from that missed the
car, But that's the biggest problem

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at all that you have the two
major issues of the gun fire. First

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of all, just said that you
obvious thing if he wants the suppruitter film

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is that his head goes backwards,
which is perfectly natural for anyone stuck in

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the fronts by a bullet, because
there's a transfer of momentum will throw you

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backwards. The frame in the direction
of the bullet was traveling, and you

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can clearly see in the side of
his head blows away as he's just been

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hit in the head by what was
probably what's called a frangible bullet, which

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is an exploding bullet. And we'll
get back to why it was one of

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these a little while, but that
was the only kind of bullet that could

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have caused the damage that you see. I mean, I'm not gonna put

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link up, but it's very very
easy to find a link to the video

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of the Zapruda, and perhaps sus
can find it there that you can see

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the twenty two seconds of the assassination
take place. But the other problem is

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this other bullet, which, as
I've said before, the government had already

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established, well I'd already established,
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One shot that clearly missed and hit
James Takee. There was no getting away

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from that one. The bullet mark
was on the pavement and Jay's face was

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injured by it. And one bullet
clearly is the one that killed Kennedy called

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the government's reports, so they left
with this one bullet. The one bullet's

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become known as the magic bullet,
which I find absolutely incredible. It does

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some very very strange gymnastics, even
in the official government version. He has

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to go into Kennedy's neck at the
back, come out the front, go

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into Connolly's back, come out the
front, hit Connelly in the wrist,

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come out the same hole it went
into, and then embed itself in Connolly's

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leg, which he apparently then fell
out of the hospital and was retrieved off

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of a bench of porters. What's
it bent thing in the hospital. And

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this was the bullet that came known
as the magic bullet. We actually physically

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had the bullet itself. Now,
if you ever see a photograph of the

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so called magic bullet, it's kind
of slightly flattened and slightly bent. There

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is no way on earth one bullet
could create all those wounds, and look

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the way it looked. It's just
virtually nothing was missing from it in terms

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of its actual physical weight. The
amount of weight lost was minimal. But

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the most interesting thing is obviously as
the bullet transversed through the victims. Connolly

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particularly left bits of itself behind,
and there are fragments of the bullets in

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Connolly's wrist that were removed soon afterwards. Now, the amount of bullet material

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that was removed from Connolly's wrist was
greater than the amount of the bullet material

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lost in the so called magic bullet. So where's the extra material come from?

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You know, he lost twenty three
grains, not Braham's grains. There's

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a money at wit. It was
one of the fifty grains was taken out

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of Connelly's wrist. So how is
that possible? But this bullet didn't do

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anything like what the government had claimed. In fact, he does something more

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spectacular. The government claimed that the
bullet entered the roof of his neck,

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But if you look at the photographs
of Kennedy's clothing and Kennedy's actual body,

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the bullet hole in his back is
actually in his back. It's about well,

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this is the fourth thoracic vertebrace.
It's four spun ribs basically down his

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back, not his neck, so
lightly between the shoulder blades. Yeah,

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lower down, which means, if
it was correct, you have to have

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got in there and somehow got deflected
upwards to come out from his neck.

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Except he's actually on record and the
autopsy carried out in Washington. One of

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the autopsy men puts his finger into
the hole in Kennedy's back and says he

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can feel into the end of the
wound. So it stopped about an inch

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into Kennedy's back, So there's no
way a bullet would transverse from there.

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But the other thing is it was
described as saying the government's official report that

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the bullet ectuit did Kennedy's throat.
Now, when you read the testimony of

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the pot and the hospital people who
saw Kennedy's wounds, including those in the

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trauma room trying to resuscitate him,
they all describe a small wound in the

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lower neck in the front as a
wound of entry, and a small wound.

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When it got to Washington, which
is important, the wound was much

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larger, looking much more like it
was an exit wound, so fitting with

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the idea of the bullet came in
the back and went out the front.

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But this is the key thing.
If Parker Memorial doctors describe a small nick

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in the throat coming out in his
throat at the hospital in Dallas, suggesting

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a wound of entry, and then
there was a much larger wound described at

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Washington. And who altered the wound. There's nobody who could have altered the

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wood outside of the government, outside
official figures who were transporting, as I

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said at the beginning, legally transporting
any of his body back to Washington when

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it should have stayed actually in Dallas. That's not the only mystery about the

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wounding of the president that can't be
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Was the head wound. The head
wound itself is described by the Parking

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member of hospital doctors as being about
the size of an egg in the right

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rear of the president's head, a
hole blown out. If you watch the

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video footage of the sapruder thing,
you can see the rear side of his

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head exploding outwards as they described.
But when it gets to park we gets

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to Washington, the wound has drown
in size significantly. If you look at

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the supposed photographs of the wounds taken
up the autopsy, it is quite considerably

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larger than anything the doctor's described,
And one of the commentators pointed out a

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while ago. The interesting thing was
when the second investigation was carried out in

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the nineteen seventies, which would get
onto it later on. They had the

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doctors from Parking Waal Hospital there giving
testimony, but those doctors were not shown

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the autopsy photographs that the government had. Of course, there is would be

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as they would say, that's not
the wound we saw in Dallas. That

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wound's different. And it gets even
stranger because there are actually X rays of

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Kennedy's head that popped down of the
blue from somewhere. Now they show severe

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skull damage around the right eye.
They show fractured skull. Now you would

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see that in someone's face and the
skull was fractured around the eyes of it,

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it would be very very obvious.
There is no sign of any wound

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at all around Kennedy's head in the
actual photographs of the X rays and the

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autopsy photographs don't tie with each other. They just don't make any sense.

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So it suggests that somebody was clearly
even when upulating the body itself. It

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is a pretty damn stuff, or
certainly the photographs is supposing that the autopsy

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have becliped, have been faked,
because they did turn up sometime afterwards.

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The interesting thing also is that Colonel
Humes is one of the two main autopsy

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especialists who were working ones, especially
if they weren't specialists at all. There

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were two medical professionals who worked for
the Navy, but they hadn't had any

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experience in autopsies previously to this.
This was the first time they'd worked on

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an autopsy. You know, you
think they get somebody in who's a bit

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more skilled in autopsy, who worked
to carry an autopsy on the president's body.

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But now these guys have brought in
because they were military. When he

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wrote his first set of notes out, including diagrams of where he found wounds,

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he was told to burn them and
to rewrite them, and who the

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hell would do that, and somewhere
in the government in terms to rewrite his

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own knots, so he will have
wounds occurring to the president's body that are

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different between Parkland in Dallas and Washington. They've changed, they've moved, they've

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altered, but that's not the only
thing that had changed. When he was

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put into a castle in Dallas,
he was given one of the most expect

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to ones that they had available this
bronze casket and wrapped in a cloth lining

408
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,519
cloth inside the coffin. When he
got to Washington, he was in a

409
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:12,759
body bag. No side of the
coffin that disappeared and he was brought into

410
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:17,039
the old tops of room in a
body bag. So you know how comes

411
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:22,279
why was it switched? So it
does lots of questions left over after on

412
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,640
earth was going on, But the
single bullet there as it gets even stranger

413
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,119
because not only do you have the
fact of the matter that the first wound

414
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,680
of entry in Kennedy's back is lower
down, is his back not his neck?

415
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,279
The doctors find how did the wound
goes that inch, the throat wound

416
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:42,119
apparently being described in Washington as an
exit wound being large and gaping, whilst

417
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,319
in Washington, Dallas, Wada were
seen as a small wound of entry.

418
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,039
Then it goes stranger because Kennedy is
sitting directly behind Connolly, but not directly

419
00:28:53,400 --> 00:29:00,680
in angle with the firing supposed from
Oswald. It would be a right angle.

420
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,599
So a bullet going straight through Kennedy
would have come out and gone past

421
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,160
Connolly. He wouldn't hit him,
but this bullet did. So the bullet

422
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,680
seems to change direction in mid air. The other interesting thing is you see

423
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,839
in the Zapruda video the footage Kennedy
has clearly been hit. There's no way

424
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,000
of getting away from that. He's
been hit. His arms go up towards

425
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:25,279
his throat, he's thrust slightly forward
in a moment Connolly is turning round.

426
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:29,680
There's about a second and a half
with him turning round to look over his

427
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:33,920
shoulder before he is clearly hit.
And the interesting thing is in the in

428
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:37,279
the footage he's holding his hat.
His big steps and hat is Connolly.

429
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,400
Now, if you've been hitching the
wrist, he wouldn't be able to hold

430
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,680
his hat, would be able to
have flown out of his hands straight away.

431
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:47,880
So you've got a delay of about
one point five seconds between Kennedy being

432
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,279
hit and Connolly being hit. So
this bullet, which goes a two thousand

433
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,240
miles an hour, was hanging in
mid air for about a second and a

434
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,759
half before it then hits Connolly.
Now it goes into Connolly's back, comes

435
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,400
out of his right front, changes
direction again because his hands not in line

436
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,880
with his chest at that point to
hit him in the wrist. It then

437
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,559
comes out of his wrist through the
hole it went in they say, deflected

438
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:17,000
off the bone and then brows itself
in Colony's leg. So he's he's the

439
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,920
most incredible bullet in history. The
other thing, there's also in the autopsy

440
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,039
notes in Washington. This is after
Dallas, of course, was a bullet

441
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:30,319
or fragment of bullet was found on
the stretcher in what on the sorry of

442
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,039
the autopsy bed that Kennedy was on. It's recorded just finding a bullet.

443
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:37,880
So that's at least a fourth bullet, you know. So this is so

444
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,599
not adding up. There's clearly something
going very wrong here in terms of what's

445
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,160
actually happening. So I'm going to
pause for a second. There's anyone any

446
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:52,160
questions. I got loads. I
just got gathered by a water and it's

447
00:30:52,200 --> 00:31:03,079
closing up on me. And so
we've got bullet. We've got bullets that

448
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:07,079
shouldn't be there. As he probably
guessed, this is not from noses off

449
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,839
my head, So excuse me getting
it all over the place. It's spend

450
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:12,000
in one of those weeks chance to
sit down and write and stuff out.

451
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,559
Okay, okact questions. Okay,
Let's let's start with the person that we

452
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:26,519
are told killed Kennedy Lee Harvey Oswald. Is it true that he shot Officer

453
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:33,480
J. D. Tippett and took
a shot at General Edwin Walker before supposedly

454
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:37,359
shooting Kennedy. Let me deal with
the Eby Walker stuff first of all,

455
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,799
that one has been tied in some
time after the whole assassination business. No

456
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:48,000
real link has ever been established other
than here, so that he may or

457
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:49,119
may not have done it. I
personally, I think it's those monsters.

458
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:52,119
They don't do him whatsoever. But
I think it was one of those things

459
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,279
that we're just trying to tie him
into this Walker shooting in order to demonstrate

460
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:00,079
he was a lone nutcume in case
he was trying to kill people. So

461
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680
that one is one of those ones
that a lot of even sort of the

462
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:07,839
most serious investigators of this assassination have
kind of just ruled out as been nonsensible.

463
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,000
The second one is much more important
for JD. Tippitt shiating. Now,

464
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,960
it's understandable if you are the lone
assassin that you've just killed the president,

465
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,920
and if a police officer approaches you, you're going to try and get

466
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,000
the hell away from them more possibly
shoot them. The trouble is it's the

467
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,039
route at which Oswell took that day. He doesn't make him any sense because

468
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:32,079
he went from the school book to
positive which he was in. He walked

469
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:37,680
out of the building because it wasn't
actually sealed off for about half an hour

470
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:40,880
after the assassination of the Kurt,
and he and several other employees left the

471
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,720
building at the time. He made
his way to a bus, got a

472
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,960
bus back to his lodging rooms,
which he lost. Something they will h

473
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:54,000
leaves is a bit strojan itself where, apparently his testimony from his landladies said,

474
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,240
a police car pulled up outside,
digged its horn and then drove off.

475
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:02,240
Soon after that, Oswald then left. Now he walked about a quarter

476
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:08,240
of a mile I think it was
west, and was heading towards where it

477
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,119
would eventually end up, which is
the cinema where he was arrested. The

478
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,799
trouble is the shooting of J.
D. Tippett took place in another part

479
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:19,720
of Dallas altogether. Now, what
Osworld would have to have done was gone

480
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:22,079
to where he shot Tippet and then
double backed on himself and got to the

481
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:27,359
textis movie theater where he was finally
arrested. It's a walk that would take

482
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:30,599
o jog or run if you like, It would take about twenty minutes.

483
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Nobody saw him in that area other
than this supposed at time of the shooting,

484
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,240
nobody Sawy walk or run that area
with no witness has ever come forward

485
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:45,599
to seeing him. People who were
not too far away said they saw a

486
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:50,079
man, possibly if it did Oswald's
description, firing at the police officer in

487
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,400
the car. They don't know why. But the two people who were closest,

488
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:59,799
a woman called Rose Sherman and Demino
Banda Vitas is obviously a Spanish American.

489
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,880
They were the two witnesses. A
quiller clament story was the woman.

490
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,400
They were the two witnesses who were
close by it closest by Banavitus describes a

491
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:13,320
heavy set man looked nothing like Oldwald
at all, heavy set block like you.

492
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,519
I Steve Whereasswell was a very small
stimder. And Rose, the woman

493
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:21,679
who was the closest to the whole
thing, saw two men go off in

494
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,480
different directions, neither which fitted Oswald's
description. But the most important thing is

495
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:30,280
when the police themselves turned up to
the shooting, they collected bullets from an

496
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,920
automatic handgun, now wis what had
a revolver, different kind of gun.

497
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:42,400
Not only that, the afsping officer
actually scratched his initials onto the founder shells.

498
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,480
When the shells later presented to him, they said there were different shells

499
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,960
and there were no initials on them, so the clear of those had been

500
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:52,440
changed. There was also talking to
a Genie Tippets Fann, not in person,

501
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,239
but people spect the Geni Tippets family
was that Jendia Tipple was having an

502
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,039
affair and there's a very good chance
the person who shot him was the husband

503
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,719
of the woman was a different so
he probably had nothing whatsoever to do with

504
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,719
assassination at all. It was just
a useful thing to tie in because obviously

505
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,360
the police were then afthur osword oswe
knew that were after him, so he

506
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,800
would sure the police approached him.
So that's really the reason for that that

507
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,639
I think it basically it was just
some kind of domestic that was going on

508
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:22,119
and multiple got dragged into it.
Okay, it's been rumored that maybe Jack

509
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:27,639
Ruby was involved in the assassination.
That gets into a very complicated area which

510
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,480
we would definitely get onto later on. I think so I said to you

511
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:37,239
guys previously. I am convinced that
the assassins themselves, the actual gunman who

512
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,280
fired the shots were mafia linked,
without a doubt. Ruby was cut in

513
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,800
Matfea linked as well. And I
think he was given the task to kind

514
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,199
of keep an eye on the patsy, because I think it was set up

515
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,800
from the beginning. But also he
was then, as we know, later

516
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,880
on, given the job of basically
knocking off the patsy. And I think

517
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,199
we talked a little while ago about
this one, and I always find this

518
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,360
fascinating. When Ruby actually shot Oswald
in the garage of the police station on

519
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,519
the Sunday morning, afterwards, he
was initially unaware whether Oswell was alive or

520
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:09,760
dead. He was taken down to
a cell which was actually the cell mixter

521
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,519
which Olsward had been kept, and
was visibly shaken. He was sweating,

522
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,199
He was panicked. He asked for
cigarette and wanted to smoke, which he

523
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,119
didn't normally do a pan He was
very, very worried. When he was

524
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,760
told that Ottle was actually dead,
he relaxed, he was calm, so

525
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,559
he didn't actually smunk him. He
was okay, so obviously he was more

526
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:31,920
concerned about the fact that he had
to do his job properly of or was

527
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,599
face the consequences, and he was
that Ozwe was dead, he'd killed him.

528
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,199
I think you possibly hoped that someone
you might get officers that are coming

529
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,039
of reprieve killing the man who'd killed
the Kennedy, But I don't know.

530
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,599
Maybe that's what he was told they
had sort out for him. But he

531
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,400
was definitely Matthia linked about a doubt. I mean, that's that's on record.

532
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,239
But I also think he had a
small scale involvement in the setting up

533
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,760
of barsworld and maybe didn't necessarily realize
exactly what was going to happen. So

534
00:36:57,039 --> 00:36:59,119
one of the things that the theory
has been put forward and I can see

535
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:02,320
gravitas, is that there was going
to be an attempt, a mock attempt

536
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,719
to assassinate Kennedy that was going to
be like guns just fired in the air

537
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,519
to sort of create this idea he
was trying to be assassinic, but there's

538
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:13,280
no reassassin. He was going to
take place not realizing the thing was actually

539
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:21,639
going to happen. So, okay, if it was to take that shot,

540
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:27,280
which we've already said couldn't have happened, from where it was over the

541
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,480
two hundred yards, he would have
had to have been a decent shot.

542
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,440
But was he an expert marksman at
all? Absolutely not. No, he

543
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,440
was known as his I think records
something fifty five percent, which is slightly

544
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:44,360
more hits than miss is. So
the thing is FBI did three sexual tests

545
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:49,000
using the supposed rifle, which is
America Carcano and an old Italian weapon from

546
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,760
World War Two that was known as
the Humane guns, so inaccurate. It

547
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:58,159
was only when they actually adjusted the
sights on the rifle that the FBI were

548
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:05,559
able to have any recreating Oswald's shots. So possibly almost impossibly fast time with

549
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:09,280
a rifle with a defective sight on
it and the target food trees moving away

550
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,239
from him, and of course,
as anyone would know, you're not find

551
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,760
a gun sty, but you have
all the time in the world to line

552
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,719
up your first shot. Your first
shot is going to be the most accurate,

553
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,360
because after that people are starting to
react to gunfire. The third shot

554
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,519
that was the most accurate, that
got a guy in the head, by

555
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,480
which point the car was already even
further away and they were alert that something

556
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,679
was going on. But one of
the interesting things that people have pointed out,

557
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,039
and I got lost to explains because
I don't think the driver was directly

558
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,760
involved. I think it was in
shock, and I'll get back to why.

559
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,159
But they can't actually appears to momentarily
slow down as a shooting happens,

560
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:51,119
and I think the driver was reacting. This reaction time was very, very

561
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,639
slow rather than deliberate. So but
the point is it, whoever was firing

562
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:59,039
from the rear would have even better
opportunity to shoot that the president because the

563
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:04,320
car slowed down. Now, one
of the interesting things that was discovered that

564
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,960
the Secret Service have a policy when
they're obviously on duty, is there's no

565
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:10,880
party in the night before, there's
no going out to drinking, there's no

566
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,199
nightclubs. It's you know, it's
off to bed at nine. Talk of

567
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:21,440
the Cocoa. The Secret Service team
that were there on the day the night

568
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,480
before had been at a nightclub to
four o'clock in the morning. Now that

569
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:29,159
was completely against rules and regulations,
So who the hell all gave them permission

570
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,920
to do that, But it meant
their only action time was obviously significantly effective

571
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,119
with the lack of sleep and the
fact that they were you know, they've

572
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,719
been drinking it up before and incidentally
the only unless, of course, the

573
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,239
team was changed at the last minute. No, no, no, it's

574
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,280
the same team on record. It's
the same team, only one person didn't

575
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,079
go out that night, and lets
the officer the Secret Service. When you

576
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:52,400
see run across the car from one
car to the other, dive on the

577
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,639
back of the President's limo and trying
to keep missus Kennedy in the car.

578
00:39:55,159 --> 00:40:00,280
Resumer is obviously freaking out at that
point. He's the only one who's acts

579
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,480
quickly, and he was the only
one who didn't go out that night.

580
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:04,920
The rest of them were all there, and the witnesses saw them there.

581
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,920
There was in the record show they
were there at this nightclub. His name

582
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,239
was Frey has eskept me for a
moment, but they were certainly there,

583
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:14,480
and it's like, what on earth
are you doing there? But that's just

584
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:19,559
one of those strange anomalies with the
protection the president didn't receive that day.

585
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,000
As I said earlier, not only
you have the root change, which made

586
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:27,880
no sense because it went against cigaret
service regulations. The bubble had been removed,

587
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,519
which you don't do if a card
goes below a certain speed. If

588
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,320
he clearly he was going to,
so again he was exposed. The other

589
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,039
interesting is the Secret Service Manual of
Protection clearly states that any windows above the

590
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:44,400
fifth floor of the building have to
be shut and if anyone opens the wind

591
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,960
above the fifth floor or fifth floor
or above, it will be investigated instantly.

592
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:52,199
So had that usual procedure been in
place that day, the supposed six

593
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,800
story window that Osa was supposed to
been firing for wouln't even been open much.

594
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,480
There's someone find a rifle out of
it. So something was you know,

595
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:04,079
this protection that's supposed to be there
just was not in place properly.

596
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,639
Also, because it's a large area
and the Secret Service are quite small,

597
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,239
they're usually augmented by the local military. Now, again this is all on

598
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,159
record, it's not a hearsay.
It's actually on the officer in charge of

599
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,519
provide additional protection from Fort Bragg just
down the road. There was telephone the

600
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:25,000
morning before the arrival of Kennedy told
that his unit was not going to be

601
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:29,519
needed, that other protection was being
provided, and he actually protested us so

602
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,239
well, this is completely against the
regulations. It's supposed to be us.

603
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,079
And he was told whoever it was, and he doesn't know who they spoke

604
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,280
to, and someone in the military
had phoned him and said no, no

605
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,000
protection will provided by us, and
there was no audition protection. There were

606
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:46,639
a number of secret military intelligence people
indeed plaza that day, but they were

607
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:52,719
all there apparently on holiday or unofficially
just observing. So why they were there,

608
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:55,599
no one really knows. But this
is the kind of protection that was

609
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:59,199
supposed to be in place of the
president, which comes back to the point

610
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,199
I'm making that it had to be
someone involved in the American government, because

611
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,960
you know the math, he couldn't
have got this kind of protection with me.

612
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,679
Nobody else could have done. It
had to have been people involved with

613
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,280
high level protection who had to have
had some kind of influence over events that

614
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,440
day. So that is all of
it strange and unpleasant. Do you ever

615
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:23,079
think that he's popping up in the
Kennedy is the disappearing lady? Did she?

616
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:27,199
Did she exist? This is a
bit of a mystery. I've got

617
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,599
what you're referring to. It's become
known as the Pabushka lady. Where isn't

618
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:42,199
be? She's wearing a large headscarf. Now, if you view some of

619
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,840
the photographs that exist, and of
course there's apruda footage, but there was

620
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,119
also other footage that he recorded,
not unfortunately not as clear or as close

621
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,719
to the car as a prudal was. A woman is apparently standing very close

622
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,679
by taking a photograph with a camera, but she apparently never came forward.

623
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,119
This is accorded to official reports.
Was never identified at the time. Now

624
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,639
the interesting thing is she has come
forward and has been identified, and name

625
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,480
was Beverly Oliver. She was a
nightclub worker. She knew Jack Ruby,

626
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,639
and she was there because she's a
big family president. She knew Ruby and

627
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,960
she'd worked at the nightclub that he
owned and another one. But what she

628
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:23,039
said was the reason why she didn't
come forward at first was that she had

629
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:28,519
a close friend for my dancer was
no by Themajada, who had actually said

630
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:31,239
to a local reporter that she knew
Ruby and knew there was something suspicious going

631
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:37,920
on and two days later was sound
dead. Now, Oliver was similarly just

632
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,639
a sort of dancer of the nightclub. And if she thought to herself,

633
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:43,559
well, if my mate gets bumped
off because she's told the public, I

634
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:46,559
told the news media that she thinks
she is going on, then she thought

635
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:49,440
to herself, I'm not gonna say
anything. I don't want to get killed

636
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,320
the way she's been killed. So
that's why she didn't come forward initially.

637
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,800
But she did come forward in the
nineteen eighties, and again she showed the

638
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,280
clothing that she wore that day and
the camera because it took the camera from

639
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,599
him, that she had took the
film and gave the camera back, and

640
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,920
she says, I'd love to have
got that photograph back because I would have

641
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:10,599
had probably the closest photographs to the
actual assassination of anybody. But she's been

642
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,039
identified with a bush lady is Beverly
Oliver. It's been established compretely, but

643
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:19,280
it's one of those things. It's
like, you know, people talking about

644
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,960
the royal conspiracy of the Jack Rick, you know Jack Rippler murders. That's

645
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,480
been completely proven to be false.
There's no royal conspiracy, yet the eyea

646
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,679
still bounces around. Beverly Oliver has
been identified as been of a bush for

647
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:37,400
lady, but it's not almost university
recorded for some reason. Okay, go

648
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:42,360
ride in the Chapman said, do
you think there's an a possible link between

649
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,639
the Kennedy's assassination and the murder of
Marilyn Monroe. Not really, So I

650
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:52,360
don't think Marilyn Monroe was murdered.
I think see why I were talking this

651
00:44:52,119 --> 00:45:00,639
earlier on that Marion Monroe committed unfortunate
and unintentionally committed suicide. She was found

652
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,039
very very seriously in bed. She
was taken to a hospital and they took

653
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,000
her to revive her. When they
failed to revive her, they took her

654
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:10,000
back to a room and put her
back in bed. Now that might sound

655
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,599
a bit ludicrous, but I think
it was just one of those things that

656
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,039
tried to look after her and protect
her from herself or anything else, because

657
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:21,360
she was actually a party given by
I think it was Frank Sinacher a number

658
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,239
of weeks before she died, and
she was clearly losing the plot. Frankly,

659
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,119
she was walking around on all fours
and parking at people. She was

660
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,800
on the even on the version of
nervous breaked down on going through nervous breakdown.

661
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,920
So I don't think she was ever
murdered. I think the evans To

662
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,679
suggested that she did actually commit suicide. They tried to revive her. When

663
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,360
they failed for whatever reason, they
took her back to a room and put

664
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400
her back in bed so she'd be
found later on that day by her maid.

665
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:52,039
She was actually found. Bobby Kennedy's
assassination is a different matter. Again.

666
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:58,119
I think some of the forces behind
his older brother John's assassination were actually

667
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,760
certainly involved in Bobby's assassination, and
partly I think because he was going to

668
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,440
carry out the same policies as John
Kennedy was going to, I end the

669
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:12,400
Vietnam War quite quickly and basically take
about the CIA like his an older brother

670
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:14,599
was going to, which is what
we're gonna get onto in a minute about

671
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:17,920
the real reasons why the assassination took
place. So, yeah, I don't

672
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,960
think Monroe herself was actually murdered.
There was only a link. To me.

673
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:23,039
She was having an affair with both
of them. There's no doubt about

674
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:27,119
that at all. There's evidence for
that certain But I think she cannot be

675
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,320
the suicide. They tried to revive
her failed and to put it back in

676
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,480
bed. So I hope that I
was, which is a bit of a

677
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:36,360
strange thing to do, Oh,
very much, the strange things to do.

678
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:38,800
I mean what they just say,
yeah, she was found and died,

679
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,559
it'd be a lot easier and no
silly questions. I don't I don't.

680
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:49,119
I don't quite know why they did
that, but it's from what I've

681
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,519
read and viewed on sort of on
video, it was early. It's one

682
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:54,760
of those things that if you look
at all the evidence, that's what it

683
00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:00,639
suggests happened in anomalous Why in terms
of you know, what's I don't think

684
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:02,960
she was made. I don't think
she knew anything that was significant enough to

685
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:07,760
have her bummed off. What was
she what could she know that was that

686
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,639
important that would make her that that
dangerous to them because it wasn't that big

687
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,400
a mission that she was having an
affair with both brothers. It was that

688
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:19,960
big of a secret. It was
one of those things that was known known

689
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,440
in Hollywood at the time. I
mean, it could just be that they

690
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,239
were worried about Pillow. Talk again, what could she tell them that they're

691
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,599
going to say? Necessarily, it
depends on what obviously on what was like

692
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:37,159
to tell her. But who knows. You've I think you've partly answered this

693
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:43,760
question of all the people involved who
could have killed JFK, Who, in

694
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,679
your opinion, is more likely and
why? Oh this is this is the

695
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:52,400
big one, isn't it. This
is probably the real question personally speaking,

696
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,519
and I think a lot of the
more serious researchers. Again, it's a

697
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:59,239
little bit like the chat the Ripper. You know, there are lots and

698
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,280
lots of people right about it,
but only those who look at those suspects

699
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,119
we talked about before, those three
main suspects. Who look outside those and

700
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,880
you bark up the wrong tree.
Similarly with this one, the lots of

701
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,719
strange and wonderful theories, but at
the end of the day, when you

702
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,199
have to look at the evidence of
what happened on the day, which is

703
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,440
why I've talked about it so much
to begin with, is that who had

704
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,079
the power to remove this level of
protection from Kennedy. The answer can only

705
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:27,719
be elements within the American government at
the time. Now I say elements because

706
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,280
I don't want to say the whole
American government was behind it, because course

707
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,679
Kennedy was part of the government.
But you have to look at some of

708
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:38,320
the historic inventor had occurred prior to
the assassination since Kennedy become president. First

709
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,719
and foremost, when he became president
and he inherited a war against Castro,

710
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,000
now which you probably know. Obviously, nineteen fifties there was a commist revolution

711
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,159
in Cuba and Batista, who was
a ruler of them, was kicked out

712
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:58,360
of the country and Castro took over. Initially, Castro was actually quite friendly

713
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,760
with the American government to look like
they were going to help him gain power,

714
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,840
but it quickly became quite clear he
was going on the communist route,

715
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,480
which a mostly front of the crap
out of them. They didn't like the

716
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:12,199
idea of having a communist government ninety
miles off American short which is where Cuba

717
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,599
would be, because of course they
had strong links then to Russia, and

718
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:19,039
it meant Russia had a sphere of
influence in the Western hemisphere, so it

719
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,280
scared the Believas out of them.
So Kennedy had inherited a plan to basically

720
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:30,559
invade Cuba and overthrow Castro. He
was told by the CIA that the plan

721
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,960
was very much in the working.
So there was a lot of support in

722
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:36,840
Cuba for a revolution, a counter
revolution, shall we say, and that

723
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:42,440
all it would take is just these
to assist the guys who were the dissidance.

724
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,920
If you were living in Many in
Florida, give them weapons and training,

725
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,079
and arm them and help them.
They'll be able to overthrow Castia quite

726
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:52,599
easily. When the invasion took place, which knows the Bay of Peace,

727
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:57,559
which is quite famous, Kennedy did
discovered basically there was nothing like what they'd

728
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:00,400
been told. They actually the Cuban
army rule well armed and were ready for

729
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:04,159
them. That there was actually a
lot of support for cast in Cuba,

730
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,880
and that the CEO had tried to
basically light him and try to manipulate it,

731
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,440
in manipulate, manipulate him, if
you say it, into providing additional

732
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,760
cover into the military presence and air
cover, and Kennedy said, no,

733
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,119
no way, and I'm not getting
involved in this. So they felt kind

734
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:22,159
of betrayed because they've been very effective
up until that point in the CIA in

735
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:27,320
carrying out couonitars and overthrown governments,
that kind of thing. They'd done it

736
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,760
in Iran and Guatemala previously. They
had they'd rescued the Dalla Alarm and protected

737
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,280
him from the Chinese government, and
they were quite proud of all that kind

738
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,400
of stuff, and then suddenly the
whole thing out with Cubicans a disaster.

739
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,440
You know, the men are caught
on the beach. Most of them are

740
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:46,239
killed or captured, and the CIA
looked like idiots basically, and they don't

741
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,440
like looking at idiots. So they
were very, very angry with Kennedy.

742
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,360
And then followed by the Cuban missile
crisis. I'll get onto that one first.

743
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,960
What happens even before that one,
because obviously Kennedy then the head of

744
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,280
the CIA. Both director and definitely
director are fired. And now these guys

745
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,159
have been there since the beginning of
the CIA. They were Alan Dullas and

746
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,920
Richard Bissell. They were the CIA, you know, it was their brain

747
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:15,159
job. But he went further than
that in a memorandum which obviously at the

748
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,719
time was kept secret, came out
a few years later, and I'm just

749
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,679
going to grow up the actual file. He issued a document called an ass

750
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:30,159
Security Action Memorandum number fifty five fifty
six fifty seven, in which he was

751
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:37,199
directing the military intelligence the Army to
basically take over the roles carried out by

752
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,960
the CIA. Was literally dismantling the
CIA, taking him apart and saying,

753
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,199
nope, these guys are finished.
CIO wherever supposed to do her stuff outside

754
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,800
of the American borders. And he
said I'm not. I mean that basic

755
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,639
military intelligence are to take over and
run this so effectively. He was trying

756
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:53,559
to take the CIA out of the
picture, take him up, and end

757
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:58,039
them. But one of the changes
that occurred, because most of this never

758
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:01,199
happened, they resisted of they the
military and the CEO were good friends and

759
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,840
didn't want to drink each other's toes. But one thing that did happen was

760
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:12,079
the anti Castro Cuban activity was handed
over to the military intelligence and the name

761
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:17,119
of Operation Mongous Mungous was just black
ops operations in trying to get rid of

762
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,599
Castro by subptitious means anything for him, trying to poison him, to make

763
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:24,039
his beard fall out, to all
sorts of different ways, and trying to

764
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:27,840
kill him off. Basically, rather
than all that invasion, they're trying to

765
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,880
do it very discreetly, including assassination
of terms including hiring and finding good gunman.

766
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:35,840
And it's come back to that in
a little while. So that was

767
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,840
already in play before if you'd miss
o crisis, because obviously the CIA thought,

768
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,719
well, if you'd let us get
rid of a Castri back in nineteen

769
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,880
sixty nine, sixty one, would
never have happened with the CIA, would

770
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,960
have been able to stop Castria were
getting rid of him, would have made

771
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,760
sure that the Russians couldn't put the
missiles into tubules Espaceally, the classes was

772
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:01,039
about because the Americans discovered quite by
chart through high lean photography that the Russians

773
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:09,679
had actually were installing nuclear missiles in
Cuba. So of course both the CIA

774
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,440
and the American military were urging Kenada
to invade Cuba. But trouble is,

775
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:21,800
by that point there were Russian missiles
and Russian military in Cuba. The result

776
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,280
of effect would undoubted the World War
Three, because there's no way Russia was

777
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,320
simply stand by and allowed their men
to be killed orthough their equipment to be

778
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,400
destroyed by the Americans without retaliating.
They would invaded Berlin. That was the

779
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,039
first thing, that was always their
plan. So he realized that there was

780
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:39,960
no way on earth that you could
let this turn into any kind of war.

781
00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:43,400
So gain he was up against the
military and the CIA because they wanted

782
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,599
this statue to take place. So
again they were very upset with him,

783
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,400
especially when he messed to cut a
deal, which is basically, do you

784
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,239
want to deal with the Russians to
draw missiles from Cuba if the Americans drew

785
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,519
missiles from Turkey were going to do
anyway. So it wasn't a big secret,

786
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:00,400
big mystery, but the very fact
that he was prepared to deal with

787
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,519
the Russians rather than go to war
with them anger these people even more so

788
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:10,440
that was like number two blow.
So so at this point he's got the

789
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:16,880
military and the CIA very much against
him, two big powerful organizations to start

790
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,320
with. And I've also read that
Kennedy had his own money printed and was

791
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,760
planning to take the Treasury out of
the loop. Is this true and could

792
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,039
it be another reason for his death, because once again that's another big powerful

793
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:36,199
your lobby, absolutely very true that
the obviously the Bank of England in this

794
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,920
country is controlled completely by the government, but in America it's affected a separate

795
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:44,440
organization. The Federal Reserve Bank prints
money and they can set the interest rates

796
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,360
based on that. Kennedy wants to
take that power away from them and wanted

797
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,119
to actually have the Bank of America, not the Bank of America as in

798
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:53,159
the private company, but the Bank
of America if you like, Bank of

799
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:58,239
said, if you want, would
then bank the presidents print money themselves directly

800
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,760
as we do over here. Of
course, a massive financial lesson interested for

801
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,760
that not to happen. And a
lot of this is again to do with

802
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,760
the financial backers of the CIA,
because the CIA themselves are of related small

803
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:13,280
organization, but they obviously they can
direct billions of funding towards sorts of products

804
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,360
and plans. And if there's suddenly
have less control over the finances because the

805
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:22,000
government on the kind of demonstration was
more directly in control of it, then

806
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:23,480
they wouldn't like that at all.
So yeah, he was taking away the

807
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:30,960
conventional banker's power and bring it more
into Congress. The other body of power

808
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:36,199
that were against him was the American
oilment or businessman again were incredibly rich,

809
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,760
but he wanted to revise the tax
laws on their oil weld and he revised

810
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,800
the legislation about who can drill.
Were again weaken in their power and taking

811
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,440
money from them. So what,
I don't think either the Federal Reserve or

812
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,199
the big oilming were directly involved in
this. They may would have helped fund

813
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,559
it, because obviously this money had
to come from somewhere to fund a note

814
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:59,559
operation like this. They may have
provided the funds to allow this. See

815
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:04,039
I don't think you're talking about the
CIA as a whole organization or even merchantats.

816
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:07,800
It's a whole organization, but just
a few like one in individuals in

817
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,159
the powerful and opposition to orchestrate a
conspiracy assassination. As I said before,

818
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,960
we know full well that the CIA
and mafia worked closely together because the mafia

819
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:22,639
wanted Castro out of Tube because they
had had basically they control all the gamming

820
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:25,280
each tuber, and that was worth
billions to them. They'd lost all that

821
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,559
money, you know, every penny, every dollar we sent that was in

822
00:56:29,679 --> 00:56:35,800
the Cuban banks before the overthrow of
Batista were confiscated by Castro. And we're

823
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,280
talking about millions and millions and millions
of dollars that this the mafia had lost

824
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:45,079
because of Castro. So they were
very much in favor of getting red and

825
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,719
they had the equipment, they had
the men who could carry out assassinations,

826
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,360
there's no doubt about it. So
they regularly didn't bump each other off.

827
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,880
So those connections ran very deep right
into the core of the CIA, the

828
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,920
connections of people who were what they
call local called field operatives. I forget

829
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:06,400
the exact term they given, but
they were basically were the liaisons between elements

830
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,320
in the CIA and elements of the
mafia, so they linked to were very

831
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:14,199
very close, so basic a.
Jeff didn't stand the chance study he had

832
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:19,000
all the major power brokers in America
against him. Yep. By nineteen sixty

833
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:22,800
three there was nobody powerful left that
he had already pissed off. But it

834
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,280
was all to the good for the
people. This is the thing and he

835
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:27,960
was. It's one of the things
that was quoted a while ago, and

836
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,880
I thought, actually, is quite
a good quote. He was one of

837
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,159
the first presidents of the twentieth century. He believed he was actually president,

838
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:38,199
as in he had the right to
do these things he was. Okay,

839
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:43,360
of course, there was the film
by Oliver Stone. Just how accurate do

840
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,320
you think that was a reasonably accurate
I have to say for my own researchers

841
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,320
and reading now, I've just heard
a little story about that. I didn't

842
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,519
see the film itself at the cinema. I must have missed it, and

843
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:58,280
I was seeing a girl local to
me at the time in the early nineties

844
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,920
when it came out on the videos. Wasn't those days, of course,

845
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,800
and I wasn't actually working as an
employed for a while. She said,

846
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,000
you might find this interesting, you
know, sort of American history. So

847
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:08,840
I was all just in it.
Anyway. Now I've heard sort of vague

848
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,920
stuff about sussination Kennedy, and I
actually thought, well, maybe this old

849
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,400
person, he did do it on
his own. You know that it was

850
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,440
all big who ha. The film
is over three hours long. I sat

851
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,719
and watched it in silence and amazement, all three hours of it. As

852
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:24,039
soon as it finished, I rewound
it and watched it all again. So

853
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:28,960
I could not believe what I just
watched. I was just this can't be

854
00:58:29,079 --> 00:58:32,599
true. This is frightly beyond belief
that they've actually killed their own president.

855
00:58:32,679 --> 00:58:36,719
But when you start reading the books, I mean, obviously he recommends a

856
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:39,760
couple of books that are the films
based around, but I've got twenty odd

857
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,679
books I've read on the subject,
you know, some of the more way

858
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:46,119
out once, some of the more
serious ones, and I thought, you

859
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:49,440
know, he's got it accurate here. I mean, okay, there are

860
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:54,639
some bits. I think Oliver Stone
would say that the conspiracy of assassination was

861
00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:00,800
bigger than it was in terms of
people involved. But there's a big change

862
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,960
over here because you have a small
number of people involved in the conspiracy to

863
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:07,840
assassinate the president, but a lot
more people were involved in the conspiracy to

864
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,039
cover up what really happened. This
is where it gets a little complicated,

865
00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:16,199
and I'll try and explain what I
mean. I think that the rumor got

866
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:22,119
out very quickly, false rumor,
that false flaggers because because people like to

867
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:28,599
call it that either Castro or the
Russians were behind the assassination, that that

868
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,360
was the real truth that they were
putting up the Oswald smoke screen to cover

869
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:36,599
up the fact that it was either
Castro or the Russians or together they had

870
00:59:36,639 --> 00:59:39,800
assassinated Kennedy and if that came out, it would lead to World War three.

871
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:45,800
So people were pulled into a conspiracy
of cover up for fear, genuine

872
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:51,360
fear of what would happen if the
supposed truth came out. I know for

873
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,719
the fact that again all record is
not me making this up. All recorded.

874
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:59,639
Earl Warren, who was the head
of Justice, basically was that the

875
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:04,159
headge judge got the roles killed there. But anyway, he was told by

876
01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:07,480
Lyndam Johnson, you are going to
head up the investigation. The Warren commissioner

877
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:14,880
it became known, and he three
times refused point blank to be involved because

878
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,039
he was told what they'd have to
be the final we're going to be so

879
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:19,719
so at the beginning, the FBI
had already decided this a week after the

880
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:23,480
assassination. Katzenback has said two days
after the assassination, we have to prove

881
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:28,599
to the country that Oswald acted alone
and the three shots fired. So you

882
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,199
have Earl Warren being told basically by
Johnson and co. That this is the

883
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,280
finings. You have to find these
findings or they'll be world War three.

884
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:38,159
I think people were lied to.
They were told that was the danger we

885
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,599
faced, that they could break out
into World War three if it got out

886
01:00:42,679 --> 01:00:46,360
to the public. That kind of
was assassinated by either the Russians or Pastro

887
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,039
and Co. Or both. But
of course that's a convenient light to cover

888
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,599
up the reality that it was actually
carried out by elements of the domestic government,

889
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:59,119
of domestic intelligence services, people involved
in the CIA, emlentary intelligence.

890
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,960
They were the two link together.
I mean, the detail that come out

891
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:06,800
in the film is fantastic in terms
of flashing out the whole story. The

892
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:12,280
guy who was responsible for primary responsibility
or providing protection for Kennedy when he was

893
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,679
out and about on tour was a
guy called L. Fletcher Prowty. He's

894
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:19,360
called X in the film player Dominsovolon, he's run as L. Fletcher Prowdy.

895
01:01:20,119 --> 01:01:24,239
He his primary job is to sort
out a secure additional protection when Kennedy

896
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:30,679
is out on tour. During this
tour of the Southern States, El Fletcher

897
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:37,239
Party suddenly found himself being providing an
escort for group of diplomats going to the

898
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,159
South Pole for three weeks, so
he was effectively out of the way.

899
01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:45,079
So ensuring that Kennedy didn't get his
proper protection was relatively easy because the man

900
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:49,840
whose mainly responsibility to organize it was
out of the way. And he said

901
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,840
himself, this is bizarre why I
was sent out. There was a mystery,

902
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:58,960
but he said the next morning he
was in New Zealand, flying back

903
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:06,280
from the South and he had a
New Zealand newspaper with all the biographical details

904
01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:10,159
history and life of Lee Harvey Oswold
already in the newspaper. But when this

905
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:15,840
newspaper came out, it was two
o'clock in the afternoon on the twenty second

906
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:22,880
in America. So, how the
hell did the New Zealand newspaper company have

907
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:27,039
this information about a suspect that had
been named half an hour before? And

908
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:29,639
they said himself, the only way
that's possible that it's what we call it.

909
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,000
It's a cover story. It's been
put out as a cover story for

910
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:34,719
what's really been going on. Unfortunately, the information got out too soon,

911
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:37,679
and this the state was made.
I've got the paper, you know,

912
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,960
this was printed the same day as
the assassination. Yet to have all this

913
01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:45,199
additional information, where the hell did
it come from? Now you've got X

914
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,440
in the film saying that. So
I didn't digging around and found Proftice saying

915
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,719
this in a number of his own
books. You know, he really was

916
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,199
who he said he was. He
was X. So you have this information

917
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:59,400
showing that people within the American establishment, again not the whole body, just

918
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:05,679
small individuals, were sufficiently in a
position to ensure that the protection was removed.

919
01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:08,639
That would have meant it would be
impossible to shoot Kennedy. But then

920
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:14,719
to bring in, as I say, most likely mafia gunman, because they're

921
01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:16,760
the ones who would be harder to
trace. Obviously, anyone in the military.

922
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,800
Who's a good crack shot would be
you know, you wouldn't use them

923
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,679
because it's too close to home.
But the contract itself apparently went out to

924
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,159
the French Corsic and mafia. Again, there's a trail of evidence showing a

925
01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:35,079
link between a guy called Christin David
who had links and had worked with a

926
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:37,880
guy called Michelle Nicholey Hiit up in
the names and Nicolay was actually a part

927
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,880
of witness protection program because he'd given
evidence against the mafia over the years.

928
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:46,719
And he said that I was contacted
by an individual who didn't name, who

929
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:52,320
was involved in the CIA to find
the gunman, and he said that he

930
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,880
wouldn't do it because it was it
was too risky. When he discovered it

931
01:03:54,639 --> 01:03:57,880
was to be carried out in America, he said, no way, that's

932
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,519
too dangerous. But he said,
I know a man he might be able

933
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:02,559
to help you, Kristian David,
who unfortunately died in prison a few years

934
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:09,800
ago. And Christian David then made
contact with the guy over in Corsica to

935
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,440
find that the mafia gunman who were
capable and had the ability to do the

936
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,960
shooting. Now, if those who
might have tuned into the show. The

937
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:18,960
last time we talked about this,
I talked about just the day itself.

938
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,599
Will remember me showing you the photographs
of Badgeman and the images. Do you

939
01:04:23,639 --> 01:04:26,840
remember that, guys? Yep,
I don't know how everybody else does.

940
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,519
Yeah, well, if not,
they should check out the last time I

941
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:31,639
talked about this. It's I'm obviously
available on YouTube, and I noticed who's

942
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:35,199
got the links of the images as
well. But they will show you a

943
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,639
man who is clearly dressed. It's
very faint, it's very un blur,

944
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,920
but you can kind of get the
impression of it's a man standing behind the

945
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:46,480
fence on the grass and knole who's
wearing a uniform. Now apparently the gunman

946
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:49,320
who was given the task of shooting
for the front light to wear a uniform

947
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,119
of the local police to blend in. He had a very distinctive hairline.

948
01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:59,199
Who's but like Steve's there actually can
see these he lies three a ball towards

949
01:04:59,239 --> 01:05:03,159
the front and this well, this
guy has a similar hairline. And you

950
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:08,920
see a photograph of this man on
his passports and it looked like him and

951
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:14,960
his name and I completely forgot his
name. That typical, don't believe it.

952
01:05:15,719 --> 01:05:17,480
I'll give you a second, it'll
come back to me. Unfortunately,

953
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,840
the guy himself died in a gunfight
in Mexico in nineteen seventy four, but

954
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,719
those who knew him said he was
incredibly risk taker, so he's quite lucky.

955
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:31,039
He's the kind of person who would
have jumped at the contract. And

956
01:05:31,159 --> 01:05:34,800
he was known to like to wear
the uniforms of military or police in the

957
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:40,360
area where he was carry out his
contract killings because he could blame him better.

958
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:45,079
And also he liked to use what
are called fragible bullets, and he's

959
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:49,880
a bullets that actually explode a sintigrat
and impact. They're not dumb dumb bullets

960
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,280
because they asked they split as they
go through, but these are actually I've

961
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,719
contained all charge inside and they explode, which would explain the damage to the

962
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,880
Kennedy's head, because it's been said
before, they seem to be more than

963
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,760
the damage you expect from one bullet. It could be the perhactically run along

964
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:10,199
the line of the bone to fracture
it. But if it was Lucy Insati,

965
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,840
it came back to me eventually,
it would if it was Lucian Insiety

966
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,239
actually firing for the right front with
his frangible exploding bullets. Then it makes

967
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,719
perfect sense of about to damage your
silk and into his head. And they've

968
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,960
tried to track the movements of this
guy. He and a couple of other

969
01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:30,760
government actually do disappear of mid November
nineteen sixty three. They're untraceable, and

970
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:38,360
they turn up again early December back
in Corsica, all three of them.

971
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:43,280
There were two other people as well, carrying a very large amount of cocaine.

972
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,679
Now, these people are never paid
in cash. They're usually paid in

973
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,880
cocaine or other drugs because it's he
actually actually easy to convert, harder than

974
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,760
to trace, believe it not,
apparently, but these guys turn up with

975
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,000
all this massive amount of cocaine and
was and they convert it back into French

976
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:00,760
francs. At the time, you've
got this picture that you kind of build

977
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,199
up the bits and pieces of the
picture and say that this guy is most

978
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,800
likely the person who carried out the
assassination, who actually fired the shots.

979
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,639
Now, one of the things that
came about the Jaffa films things also quite

980
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:14,039
true, is that the good charts
these guys had no idea who they were

981
01:07:14,039 --> 01:07:16,159
really hired by They wouldn't care.
You know, they've given a job,

982
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:19,199
they'd do the job they've given.
They don't ask questions, so they probably

983
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:24,480
wouldn't. No idea that was almost
certainly elements within the American government who actually

984
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:28,320
secure their services. Show is so. But we know they had links to

985
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,480
the American authority because they've been used
before to care out assassinations. Again,

986
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:35,559
this all a record, It's not
just me sort of waving nowhere. You

987
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:41,559
know, you can find the stuff
for yourself. So that's I mean,

988
01:07:41,719 --> 01:07:45,519
in fact, he said he likes
to take risks. We would explain why

989
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:48,800
the head shot, because most snipers
wouldn't use a head shot. Well,

990
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:51,360
that's the thing, you see,
it's one of those things you can guarantee

991
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:56,760
someone's going to be killed, and
that would pretty damn sure against they're going

992
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,599
to dive. He hit in the
head. But I think one of the

993
01:07:59,639 --> 01:08:03,920
other it's about why is it was
a very public execution. I think it

994
01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:08,639
was done in order to demonstrate to
others who might consider trying to go against

995
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:12,280
these people. And again I keep
saying, these people are not talking about

996
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,039
a mass organized conspiracy're not talking about
Illuminati anything like that. Here we're talking

997
01:08:15,079 --> 01:08:18,880
about a small people, a small
group of people who were like commanded,

998
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,760
who would gain a lot and lose
nothing by knocking it out just using the

999
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,279
skills and tactics. They already had, their abilities, they already had,

1000
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:33,199
this infrastructure was already in place.
So just just a few power brokers.

1001
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:39,000
Yeah, exactly, you publicly execute
this guy as a warring to anybody else

1002
01:08:39,079 --> 01:08:43,159
who thinks they can get the better
of us. By the time November sin

1003
01:08:43,159 --> 01:08:46,039
since we came along, there was
no powerful body in America who were not

1004
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:50,319
against Kennedy. He was against.
He was dismounting every vessel interest you could

1005
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:55,279
think of. Pretty much it was
and they knew they couldn't bribe it,

1006
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:59,039
while when you have own financially,
they couldn't blackmail him because he didn't care,

1007
01:08:59,239 --> 01:09:02,199
you know, knew said multiple affairs. It was no secret his family

1008
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:06,479
were incredibly wealthy, and their worth
had come from illegal activities. His father

1009
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:13,039
had been a smug drink across the
border from Canada during the nineteen twenties during

1010
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:17,880
the prohmission period, So he had
close links to the mafia himself or it's

1011
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:23,520
his father certainly did. So that
really gives you the idea of that these

1012
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,920
people have to be somewhere in high
authority. They have to be someone of

1013
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:31,359
power to ensure certain changes that take
place. Now, interesting enough, matter

1014
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:38,760
of fact, Prouty I spoke about
earlier Sally a bit of drink. He

1015
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:45,640
said that his immediate boss was there
on the day. He says, if

1016
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,880
you look at the photograph of the
three tramps, which we did talk about

1017
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,760
last time, as I'll cover again
briefly, these three men were pulled off

1018
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:58,439
of the trains in the sidings behind
the grassy knoll, were supposed to have

1019
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,239
been trans All three of them addressed
relatively good clothing. They were clean shaving,

1020
01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:06,000
neat hairstyle, good shoes, but
were firstly supposed to be tramped.

1021
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,880
The three of them disappeared. They
were never interviewed, they were never questioned.

1022
01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:13,680
There's no record of who they were
as ever recorded. But yet their

1023
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,359
photograph was being taken away by police
officers. There's also another man in the

1024
01:10:18,399 --> 01:10:24,560
same pictures who's walking away from the
cameraman. And when Priorally saw that photograph

1025
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,119
he said, that's my old boss. That's absolutely my old boss. I

1026
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:30,520
can tell by the way I worked
with it out for thirty years. I

1027
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,520
can tell the way he walks,
its hairstyle, even that ring in his

1028
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,159
finger. He could see the picture. That's my boss. What on earth

1029
01:10:35,279 --> 01:10:39,880
was he doing there? But he
was the one that sent priority to the

1030
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,399
South Pole a week before the assassination, so you could say, you know,

1031
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,520
you can't say for definite, but
there's pretty good evidence that he was

1032
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,520
one of the senior figures who was
involved in planning the assassination. Now his

1033
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:56,039
main as for this completely stipulody is
out there. You can find it.

1034
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,119
You know. He was one of
the direct liaisons between military intelligence and the

1035
01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:03,439
CIA. Moss is asking the question, is it said, wouldn't the real

1036
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:12,239
assassins have been taken out so dead
men don't talk? It's about it really,

1037
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:15,880
wouldn't These people we are talking about
mafia hitman. They know their job,

1038
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,680
they know what they do for them. It's just another man. It

1039
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,680
was it was nobody. It was
just impersonal and told to take. They

1040
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,039
have the code of silence. You
know, Mafia's code of silence is pretty

1041
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:28,159
pretty powerful. You know, you
speak one word out of line by blah,

1042
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:32,800
you go, it's called the call
it I mean, it's a Matthea

1043
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,319
thing general. But apparently, of
course, if the mafia are very very

1044
01:11:35,399 --> 01:11:40,239
strong in this code of silence.
It's called something in Italian. I can't

1045
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,680
what it's called, but yeah,
they were. Guess why they use it

1046
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,279
because they know for whether they would
never ever report it to anybody what they've

1047
01:11:47,279 --> 01:11:49,800
done, that would be kept go
to their grave with them anyway, because

1048
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,760
it's more than their lives are worth
to say anything. So they you know,

1049
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,640
they're they're paid massively. You know, they're not just paid for the

1050
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,680
job. Their whole lives are protected. They're all part of the whole structure

1051
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,600
of a Matthew organization. As it
was over there, you got no chance

1052
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:08,560
of of anybody admitting to killing Kennedy. Absolutely the malue that it's called,

1053
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,079
they wouldn't do it, you know, you just it's just not done.

1054
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,560
Those sorts of circles. You know, what would you gain by saying if

1055
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,079
you know for what, they'd kill
you? Well, I was going to

1056
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:23,359
ask and did the Royan Commission to
investigated the assassination? Probably, but the

1057
01:12:23,399 --> 01:12:26,399
obviously wasn't. But he was told
what to say, so absolutely not.

1058
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,680
From the beginning cover up, You've
given us a pretty good case for it

1059
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:39,199
being a conspiracy, well a little, but okay, can you now give

1060
01:12:39,279 --> 01:12:45,960
us one against it? No,
I'm sorry, literally I can't, because,

1061
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,279
as I say, if the only
altern of his old action alone,

1062
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:53,720
and that just remains utterly possible,
there's no way Osbalt alone could have been

1063
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,279
fired from a sixth fold window when
the Secret Service would have had that window

1064
01:12:57,319 --> 01:13:00,880
closed unless they weren't there. There's
no way he could shoot that rifle the

1065
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,720
way he fired it, because I
say, even the FBI's marksmen could not

1066
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:10,640
replicate his shots until they adjusted the
sights on the rifle. And there's no

1067
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:15,479
way a rear hit on anyone's head
would send them backwards. It just doesn't

1068
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,680
happen. Yeah, good, let's
pick a point. It didn't go forward

1069
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,479
and then back. It went straight
back. Didn't it straight back? Absolutely?

1070
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,279
You watch it yourself. You can
see it. I watched it from

1071
01:13:26,319 --> 01:13:30,079
in slow motion over and over again. His head jerks back into the left.

1072
01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:31,640
There's no you know, there's no
two ways about it. I mean,

1073
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,039
the government tried to argue that it
was the jet during effect of his

1074
01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:36,800
head explosion, that when it went
the same direction, but it's never happened

1075
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:42,000
in history before you know, as
the similar film. Anyone who's only intwit

1076
01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:45,479
a gunfire will tell you straight away
that bullet's covered in the front, say

1077
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,880
Charles brem who was very close by
it military saw the shot and said,

1078
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:53,239
that's come from over there, up
the grassy knoll. But I mean,

1079
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,640
yeah, give you some other stuff
as well. That wily back up this

1080
01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:01,199
even further. One of the guys
who died fairly soon afterwards was a guy.

1081
01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:04,680
His name again it's just a state
which is very annoying. I see

1082
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:09,479
Lee Bowers. Lee Bowers. He
worked for the railway company. He was

1083
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,239
in a signal box at the back
of the car park, which is the

1084
01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:16,600
back of the grassy not He said
that he had been closed off the area

1085
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,920
by the police from ten o'clock in
the morning. But yet three cars came

1086
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:26,479
in between ten o'clock and the assassination. And with the third car came in

1087
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,319
not much fifteen minutes before, and
the guy clearly was talking on a radio,

1088
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,640
so he as seen his secret service
or something like that. He then

1089
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,960
he said, he then saw at
the corner of the car park of the

1090
01:14:38,039 --> 01:14:41,800
in the grass where the picket fences, two men. One of them appeared

1091
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,479
to be in uniform. Is his
testimony. He's actually in the Warren report,

1092
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,359
and he said at the time of
the shooting, he said something happened,

1093
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:53,039
there was a flash or something happened
at the moment of the assassination.

1094
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,680
I mean he used describing gunshots and
he said there's a flash, and he

1095
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,039
said, there's two men there and
another men further down the fence. And

1096
01:14:59,039 --> 01:15:02,159
as soon as they saturday gone,
I went by. He's been walked away.

1097
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:09,319
And this is actually in the Warld
Commission report. The man, questioningly

1098
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,119
barrassed, goes to another subject.
He asked no questions about this. He

1099
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,399
doesn't ask him to explain or refers
back to what he just said. It

1100
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,720
just moves on to something else.
Is actually in the report. This is

1101
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,880
what Jim Garrison, the actual real
man, he was in the JFK film.

1102
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,319
That's the attorney in New Orleans.
That's what got him wonder what the

1103
01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:29,479
hell's going on? This guy is
stating that him quite clearly that he's seen

1104
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,199
this happen, and yet it's ignored. So that was a pretty powerful evidence

1105
01:15:33,239 --> 01:15:41,279
that something was going on at whatever
level. So there you go, Ladies

1106
01:15:41,319 --> 01:15:47,439
and gentlemen killed by the Americans not
finished yet right off this second just got

1107
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,319
this last very important point. Oh, I have to I have to change

1108
01:15:51,359 --> 01:15:57,359
that anyway, because he was he
was actually murdered by the Corsicans. The

1109
01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:01,880
Matthew did the actual gun that Matthia
meant did the actual gun fire. Of

1110
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:08,760
the organizations were definitely CIA CIA nineteen
hundreds linked, but interesting enough, in

1111
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:14,079
the late seventies they a magazine Who's
going I forget now I'm having a bit

1112
01:16:14,119 --> 01:16:17,319
of a brain new Freeze today.
Basically, it was discovered that one of

1113
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:25,720
the outriders of the patrol following the
car was microphone was stuck on open and

1114
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:31,399
its standard procedure is to record all
communications on police radio. So they had

1115
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:36,199
a recording that was actually taken at
the time of the shooting. And the

1116
01:16:36,279 --> 01:16:41,520
recording is obviously it's not very clear
because it's an old record and it's you

1117
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,760
know, it was laying a drawer
for years for the re is what the

1118
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,800
head it was. There is noise
on there, and it's been suggested you

1119
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:50,119
can hear up to six shots being
fired, up to six, which is

1120
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:54,880
probably more likely the actual totals.
One did briefly get onto what I think

1121
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,439
actually happened, how it actually took
place. But the interesting thing was they

1122
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,159
were not sure about some of them, but there were can convinced utterly there

1123
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:08,800
was at least four shots recorded,
clearly shots individual ones. So they decided

1124
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,399
to reopen the investigation because this was
a heart of escape evidence, and the

1125
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:23,520
House Assassinations Committee met and reviewed the
evidence, all the evidence, including those

1126
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,800
rather dodgy autopsy photographs, which I
said they never showed to the men in

1127
01:17:28,039 --> 01:17:30,560
Dallas, who would have been able
to say least photographs of fate didn't show

1128
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,119
it on It is ridiculous. But
one thing they did come to conclusion was

1129
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:40,840
there was undoubtedly on the audio analysis
four shots fired. They were still stuck

1130
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,600
by the idea of Oswald acting alone, and still stuck with the idea of

1131
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,720
Osward fired the shot that killed Kennedys, but they admitted there had to be

1132
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:51,159
a second gunman firing a fourth shot. That was the official report. They

1133
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:56,520
didn't say when which one it was
they expected second or third or four shots,

1134
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,239
didn't say, They didn't. They
suggested it may have come of the

1135
01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:02,479
front, but didn't say again which
one of those, or whether it was

1136
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,439
one to hit Kennedy or not.
They said they didn't know, but they

1137
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:11,960
concluded that there were four shots.
By definition, that's a conspiracy because two

1138
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:16,199
people are firing. But that is
an official report. But and this is

1139
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:21,880
the stupid bit, it doesn't replace
the World Commission report. The World Commissary

1140
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:27,640
report still stands as official. So
he got two official reports for the American

1141
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,039
government of how the assassination happened.
And they're different. They contdict each other,

1142
01:18:31,359 --> 01:18:35,079
yet they're both the official reports.
It don't make any sense, does

1143
01:18:35,119 --> 01:18:38,720
it? How can you let me? But that's how it's working over there,

1144
01:18:39,319 --> 01:18:42,800
that both reports are seen as the
official, deverative explanation of the assassination.

1145
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,680
But they said different things, and
one doesn't override the other one.

1146
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,239
There we go. Firstly, I
think six shots are fired. I think

1147
01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:54,720
there was the shot and then in
the back of Kennedy was a loan shot

1148
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,039
by itself, probably fire from the
building nearby, the much lower down.

1149
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,279
Then I think the shot one shot. First one was fired from the grass

1150
01:19:01,279 --> 01:19:03,600
as a role, which hit Kennedy
in the throats. As I said before,

1151
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,800
that was a win of entry.
Then I think a shot was fine

1152
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,079
again from behind. This is the
one that hits Connolly and goes through him

1153
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,560
at some point or other. There's
another shot that's fine, that miss is

1154
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,119
completely the car and is the one
that injures James Tage. Then another shot

1155
01:19:18,199 --> 01:19:21,960
is fired which missus Kennedy again but
then hits Connelly in the wrist and then

1156
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,319
lifts in his leg. And then
the shot from the front. Second shot

1157
01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:28,960
from the front, mind you,
which gets Hennady in the head. That's

1158
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,520
six shots from three different fires.
Firing people find different directions. I think

1159
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,640
that's what happened. That's my own
personal explanation. I know, obviously near

1160
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,920
ten o'clock, but I'm not doing
any my mister conspiracy stuff because obviously this

1161
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,319
is the big conspiracy, so we're
not too bad on tire. But to

1162
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,439
me, that's what happened. Three
shooters, three different locations. Three fired

1163
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,800
from behind. I took four or
five from behind, two from the front,

1164
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:56,239
the first pick in the I kind
of find it amazing that with all

1165
01:19:56,319 --> 01:20:01,399
these world shots the missed the target. How the hell did Jackie not get

1166
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:06,880
hit? Well, only one shot
missed. The hits are obviously Connolly,

1167
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,439
but then you look at it,
if you look at the line of alignment,

1168
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,439
she was okay, She was over
to one side. She wasn't in

1169
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:21,600
the line Connolly's hit because he's in
line basically with the lower shots, not

1170
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,600
the ones from above, not the
high up shots, but the lower shots

1171
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,600
if they come from probably the books
called the Dull Tax Building, which is

1172
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:33,600
next door, which was officially closed
at the time, so anyone could get

1173
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:39,720
in there. There's actually a photograph
that shows it's hard to see, but

1174
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,960
it's definitely a shadowy figure standing in
a window on the second floor of the

1175
01:20:44,039 --> 01:20:46,680
Dull Tax Building. They're supposed to
be empty b and the windows are open,

1176
01:20:47,119 --> 01:20:51,119
and you can see the outline side
of the head and an arm in

1177
01:20:51,239 --> 01:20:57,359
the shadows. He's clearly in that
window. Also, there was a guy.

1178
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,880
In fact, there's several people who
are crossed the way from the school

1179
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:05,960
Book Depository building who saw a rifle
sticking out the window of the six four

1180
01:21:06,039 --> 01:21:10,840
and so they could see two men
with the rifle, one o the pig

1181
01:21:11,039 --> 01:21:15,119
on a radio. And it was
like some thirty odd people saw that.

1182
01:21:15,319 --> 01:21:17,880
But because they were happened to be
in a jail cell as a gel overlooked

1183
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,960
the new Plaza, they were discounted
because they were inmates. Okay, so

1184
01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:26,319
there might be in prison. They
are waiting charges. It's only holding self.

1185
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,000
Does that mean they're lying, all
of them? But they all said

1186
01:21:29,039 --> 01:21:32,600
they saw more than one man and
that window I mean, I mean it

1187
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:40,760
also said the presumer sniper wasn't that
good because no actual proper sniper would have

1188
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:45,520
his bowl anywhere near the bloody window. Well that's exactly from at least,

1189
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:50,239
so it doesn't show. Yeah,
well they weren't that bothered in one respect.

1190
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:53,239
They weren't that bothered. They were
doing what they were told to do,

1191
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:59,039
and that really they succeeded. The
cover up there's almost completely worked.

1192
01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:01,479
I mean, the ARA, whence
you really put it together, is clearly

1193
01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:06,119
something very wrong. I say,
if you eliminate everything else, you have

1194
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:12,840
got the simple facts of the rules
of Secret Service protection. This is how

1195
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,119
it's supposed to be done, this
is how it's always done. In fact,

1196
01:22:15,239 --> 01:22:19,960
only a month previously, Anna Stevenson, who was the American ambassador to

1197
01:22:20,119 --> 01:22:26,600
the UN was actually attacked because he
wasn't given sufficient protection. So they'd already

1198
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:31,239
actually up to protection because of what
had happened previously. But the interesting thing

1199
01:22:31,359 --> 01:22:35,159
is, and this is another little
side which has really got fascinating in about

1200
01:22:35,159 --> 01:22:41,800
a week before Kennedy went to Dallas, he did a tour of Miami and

1201
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,760
there was a police informant in Miami
who was actually informing and listening in on

1202
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:50,560
conversations and was friends with a guy
who was from a far right movement who

1203
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:57,640
had links to American oil business.
And they got into conversation which is always

1204
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,800
called it in this guy always called
it in his flat. They were talking

1205
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,079
about Kennedy and I must have hated
him, and this other man revealed that

1206
01:23:03,239 --> 01:23:09,560
there was a plan in the workings
to eliminate Kessing at Kennedy. Now that

1207
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,319
got back to this CIA, to
the FBI, saorry, and they actually

1208
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,079
uped the protection in Miami because they
thought that was obviously the sight was going

1209
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:21,079
to happen. The interesting thing is
Robert Groden, who did the analysis of

1210
01:23:21,119 --> 01:23:25,920
the Zapruda film Alvious, come for
all the photographs and he found that this

1211
01:23:26,079 --> 01:23:29,920
guy I'm talking about who said there
was plans in the workings, was actually

1212
01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:32,560
in dani Plaza that day. He's
actually kepted in a photograph. Now,

1213
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,359
what's this guy doing there unless he
already knew something? And he said,

1214
01:23:35,359 --> 01:23:39,119
the weird thing is you can see
the photograph, everybody's waving and cheury.

1215
01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:43,439
Apart from him, he's like stony
face, just looking forward, looking towards

1216
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,840
Kennedy and thinking he's there because he's
known something's going to happen. He's there

1217
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,439
to witness it. This is really
creepy. And the other thing just lastly

1218
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:55,199
that again kind of throws the whole
thing out the window that it resolved with

1219
01:23:55,319 --> 01:23:59,359
acting alone. There was a woman
called Roe Sherriman. She was a prostitute

1220
01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:02,079
that was she kicked out of a
car and picked up the day before the

1221
01:24:02,119 --> 01:24:06,840
assassination in Dallas. She was obviously
high on drugs and then looked like they'd

1222
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:11,319
betterally trying to run her over and
failed, and she was going on over

1223
01:24:11,319 --> 01:24:14,159
and over again that she had traveled
up to Dallas with men who were going

1224
01:24:14,199 --> 01:24:17,199
to assassinate Kennedy. Someone please stop
them. This is the day before the

1225
01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:20,800
assassination happened. And she was saying, these men are going to kill Kennedy.

1226
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,800
I've traveled with them, are going
to kill Kenedy, Please someone stop

1227
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,439
them. He actually appears in the
very beginning of the Jerk of film.

1228
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,800
But you know, how the hell
does she know that? You know,

1229
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:31,800
put a prostitute. He was called
working for the mafia, doesn't mean to

1230
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,760
the Matthea. So you just left
this conclusion. There's no way on her

1231
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:42,039
that Oswald dreaded up this whole plan
all by himself, decided that day he

1232
01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:44,880
was going to go up to the
window and shoot Kennedy. I'm getting another

1233
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,680
problem is Kenny was running late.
What's what should already been up in that

1234
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,159
window by the time the garden was
due to arrive. At called him past

1235
01:24:51,239 --> 01:24:55,319
twelve, not twelve thirty when it
didn't arrive. And yet there are reports

1236
01:24:55,359 --> 01:25:00,600
of again viable, believable reports of
Oswald being downstairs the building he worked up

1237
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:04,680
to twenty minutes past twelve. Now, if he was definitely assassin, he

1238
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,760
would already have been at that window
for the past twelve, and yet he

1239
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,720
wasn't. So what's going on?
You know? How did he know the

1240
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,039
cars running fifteen minutes a low?
Yeah, I mean I can understand.

1241
01:25:15,079 --> 01:25:17,399
I'm not taking any notice of the
post duke when she was high on drugs

1242
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:23,600
at the time, but somebody should
have picked it up it afterwards. Yeah,

1243
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,720
but she was still again like Lee
Bower, she died soon afterwards.

1244
01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:30,920
Lee Bowers died in a car crash
on a sling single lane road on his

1245
01:25:31,039 --> 01:25:35,000
own, no other vehicle, just
planned into a tree. Ro Sherman was

1246
01:25:35,079 --> 01:25:40,880
kicked by another car again, this
time died again within weeks of the assassination.

1247
01:25:41,319 --> 01:25:43,119
But she was, you know,
she was talking about the place,

1248
01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:45,640
he said, Dallas, where she
was traveling to, and it was going

1249
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,279
to happen tomorrow, which she was
on the thursd of the twenty first and

1250
01:25:47,359 --> 01:25:49,880
twenty seconds. And when this actually
took late, you know, it wasn't.

1251
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,560
She was just saying something vague or
the would be assassination. She said

1252
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,439
where and when? And she was
right. How does she possibly know that?

1253
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,920
So there you go, ladies,
just and everybody else you might be

1254
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,760
listening. That's that's the thing.
So one of the things I wanted to

1255
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:08,600
just briefly talk about. You know, this is a conspiracy. This is

1256
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:13,720
involving a small number of like minded
individual powerfully positioned, who decided that they

1257
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,000
wanted to get rid of a president
who was going against everything that they stood,

1258
01:26:17,039 --> 01:26:20,680
what they believed in. This is
different to any other kind of conspiracy

1259
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,880
we've talked about before. You know, we're not talking about one hundreds of

1260
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,760
thousands that were being killed by this
or being drawn into a war. In

1261
01:26:28,119 --> 01:26:31,479
fact, the most powerful factor behind
all this was that Kennedy was going to

1262
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:36,760
end the Vietnam War. He wasn't
You signed a National Security memberround in two

1263
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:44,000
sixty three to withdraw the troops from
America from Vietnam to not have the Vietnam

1264
01:26:44,079 --> 01:26:47,880
War. Within a week of his
assassination in the Johnson signed two seven three

1265
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:54,119
that reverted the withdrawal of the troops
and wrapped up massively their presence. This

1266
01:26:54,359 --> 01:26:57,880
led directly to the Vietnam War.
So we're talking about, you know,

1267
01:26:58,079 --> 01:27:01,079
tens of thousands, one hundred found
as the Americans dying because of the Vietnam

1268
01:27:01,119 --> 01:27:04,479
War. That would never have happened. If they had survived, it wouldn't

1269
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,000
have been the Vietnam War. This
is why I say it's the biggest one.

1270
01:27:08,359 --> 01:27:11,199
We talk about two half thousand and
three thousand people dying in Fine to

1271
01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:14,720
eleven facts of conspiracy is being bigger, I don't think. So. This

1272
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,079
was even bigger because it set the
tone for American policy for the next fifty

1273
01:27:18,199 --> 01:27:23,039
years. You know, this idea. Prior to that, they hadn't really

1274
01:27:23,079 --> 01:27:26,079
got that much involved. I mean, okay, World War two obviously,

1275
01:27:26,119 --> 01:27:30,159
but they backed off and were quietly. They didn't have massive invasions. But

1276
01:27:30,319 --> 01:27:32,520
I think where they succeeded in that
assassination and got their way, if you

1277
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,920
like, got their billions and billions
that the Vietnam War generated for and they

1278
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,880
thought, well, we can do
what how we like? Now can gung

1279
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,159
ho and just take over the world
if you want to. I think things

1280
01:27:43,359 --> 01:27:47,319
like later on stuff happening was because
of this had worked, This had succeeded,

1281
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,199
and it has succeeded. Kennedy is
dead, and we have not one

1282
01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:55,680
person that's ever got the prison for
this murder, not one person ever who

1283
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,840
had a number of This is not
the only court case, the garrisone.

1284
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,760
There's been other court cases which have
been liable cases. Because one man,

1285
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:11,000
E Howard Hunt, who was heavily
involved in the Watergate scandal, claimed adamantly

1286
01:28:11,039 --> 01:28:13,560
he wasn't there, he was not
involved in any way, shape or form,

1287
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,479
But yet his own family said he
was there on the day, and

1288
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,119
he actually ended up being a court
case and was found against him that he

1289
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:25,680
was in Dallas on that day on
official business, official CIA business. No

1290
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,680
record of what that was, but
he was proved to be lying that he

1291
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,079
was there and he was working there
as part of the CIA operation of some

1292
01:28:31,359 --> 01:28:35,159
kind. No details were ever given
until his deathbed, and we actually talked

1293
01:28:35,159 --> 01:28:40,279
about this while ago. Steve one
of his new stories it covered that he

1294
01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:44,039
actually a deathbed said yes there was
an assassination. Yes, I was involved in