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Well, happy playoff Monday here for
some of the teams, some of the

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teams in the XFL. We'll talk
about it today USFL Week two. Exciting

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stuff coming down the way I have
with me today A Eve sad, It's

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okay, sad, Pat Rapino representing
his Saint Louis BattleHawks, Pat checking in

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with you, welfare check, Pat? How are you doing? I'm okay?

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Because the speculation tweets are beginning with
A J. McCarron putting out his

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tweet about wanting to play with that
man next year. You think AJ back

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in the XFL. I mean,
I mean, I think he'll The cool

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thing about AJ, and we've talked
about this in nauseum, is that the

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world is at his feet, so
he doesn't have like if I'm him,

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I kind of wait till that middle
of training camp. Okay, like like

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when the Viking said Teddy Bridgewater get
hurt. You know what I mean,

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Like, let me choose the NFL
team I want to go to you kind

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of like pull on the Dell Beckham
there. I like that. I'll choose.

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I'll tell you which teams I'll want
to play. Don't call me,

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I'll call you that that's good.
Well we're here today. We have everyone

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checking in. Chris who got Matt
here? Exciting times. I was very

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rowdy on Twitter last night, very
exciting, and I don't I don't like

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going to the press box for the
C Dragons games. That like being in

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the field for that. I will
officially be in DC and our nation's capital

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next weekend. I have I bought
a standing room only ticket in the Beer

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Snake area when the tickets went on
sale. Listeners Seth helped me out with

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the code and then I waited.
I have my flight purchased on Miles last

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night, so we are locked in
pat exciting times. We'll talk about the

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Saint Louis over it all. But
C Dragons in the North Championship game against

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the DC Defenders. Do we even
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I mean yeah, because here here, here's something I saw last night,

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Matt Sexton, friend of the show, going in for the touchdown?

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Right what happened? Because I think
it was a gentleman's name is a Kelvin

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Night. I forget, I forget
Kelvin right? Does that sound right?

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So he obviously, you know,
the points thing kind of got figured out,

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you know, they got their columns
guys on the sideline saying hey,

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we're good, and he still,
you know, did the reverse Dan bbding

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Don bbting from the Super Bowl on
leon Let. So to me, that

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says enough about the team that you
know, they definitely have a chance.

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And you know, we saw it
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that you know, nine and one
doesn't mean anything. But I do think

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Von Hutches and Reggie Marlow are way
better team than because obviously last year with

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the Stars, you know, it
was just getting case Cook is getting into

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his group. So there are similarities
or you know, but nine and one

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doesn't mean anything, and that sound
cliche any givens under or Saturday. In

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this case, I didn't like that. I didn't like Matthew Saxony and Friend

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of the Show. I mean Matthew
was kind of flexing on Cialla coming in

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there. I don't obviously we didn't
hear the broadcast with d and you know,

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also a friend of the shum sure
he had some is that the XFL

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rule now that you can't like fumble
it into the end so ridiculous. That

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should have been a touchback. We
were all screaming about that very very exciting

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times there. You know, I
still don't know. I know Brian Stole

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said out the email about why the
battlet Hawks are eliminated. I don't still

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was it really good? Really come
down to one point was that do you

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do you understand how the playoffs worked? I do. My problem is this,

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I think every time I think I
understand, a new thing comes out,

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so like maybe maybe this is my
slow brain or anything. Because I'm

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getting it, I'm breathing it.
And then I have five other people who

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are texting me or messaging me who
are like the casual BattleHawks fans, like,

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so what's going on? And I'm
taking you know, what Mike says,

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what other people on Twitter says.
Then Brian sends something out and they're

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like, well ESPN said this,
and I'm like, well, I don't,

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I don't, I don't. I
don't know at this point, like

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I don't. I'm gonna be honest, let's wait, wait till the game's

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over. But my girlfriend brought up
a really good point and she was at

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work, you know, talking to
people, and people were talking about the

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XFL Saint Louis and they're like,
so, why aren't they getting in and

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she's like, well, what do
you mean. She's like, it's a

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tiebreaker, but what what are you
talking about? So it deterred a lot

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of casual people to where it's like, you know, you know, we

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live, breathe, you know,
make a little bit of money from doing

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this all that good stuff. Where
it's some dude who just got done working

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fifty six hours a week, you
know, building roofs. Is like,

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dude, this team seven and three, why are they not in the playoffs?

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Like this, this is stupid And
I think it could have turned off

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a lot of people too to the
I wanst say absurdity, but just the

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move, like the very fluidity of
the playoffs situation. Yeah, I mean

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we're still like we're still having Jared
the Chaire Max, like we're still talking

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about like we didn't and I you
know, I had the producer Max Sex

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in me and I told Mike because
that, Yeah, I had people dmment

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like I've been drinking reading there since
two o'clock, Like I'm not a guy

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about this right now, right now. You know. Obviously when they announced

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it in the stadium, you know, it was good, it was good.

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It was excited. Uh, the
South a little bit more locked up.

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Are you pleased to see or Arling
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the matchup in the South? I
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charm for Arlington. If Arlington won, it wouldn't surprise me at this point.

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You get to the point, you
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running kind of a stale offense yesterday. You know, don't show too much.

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Obviously Brandon didn't play yesterday. Um, I mean, based off the

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playoff structure, that's just the way
it is. There's a lot of things

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in life that aren't fair, and
you know, being a Saint Louis BattleHawks

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fan today is not fair despite what
you're doing. Um, but you know

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it kind of sucks, you know, but the team does look better with

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Perez obviously, you know, davidon
Smith didn't play and whatnot. So it

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could be a good game, it
could be a blowout. I'm I think

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everyone's tuned into the North Division.
You know, we'll watch the South Division.

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But I think I like, as
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they had a major drop off in
ratings from the Houston Arlington game, that

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would not surprise me, especially what
there's you know, six games next week.

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If that was number six on the
slate of spring football, that would

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not surprise me. Well, yeah, so it's gonna be so the Saturday

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game here and I can I can
pull this up. We got Renegades at

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Houston at seven pm Eastern ESPN two, and then obviously the Seattle game DCM

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on the ESPM proper there. But
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love well. I wish we could
go live tomorrow. I've seen the prelims

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for the USFL of weekend numbers.
I think it's gonna be fun tomorrow.

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I think if we could have done
that. Max has a comment here.

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You know, it almost could be
Saint Louis not getting in, Like we

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could fix this next year. You
might have to be the sacrificial lamb where

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the BATTLEHA fans are so outraged that
they do get rid of the divisional playoff

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and they do you know, the
division winners and then the top you know,

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top two points whatever after that to
get in. Would you like to

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see? I know, Andy and
I've been kind of harping about this for

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weeks. Sea changed XFL playoffs whatever
next year. I mean that that would

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that would be good for this year, but we don't do we know if

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it'll be good for next year,
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mean, I don't want to say
case by case basis, but I think

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you know what happens next year if
someone else gets screwed, you know,

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Like I don't, I don't know
what the fix is. Like right now,

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it's easy for me to get on
my soapbox and be like Saint Louis

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should be in you know, like
this is nonsense, but like, you

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know, what if you know there
are a bunch of teams, Like what

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if the next tier of teams all
went five and five? You know,

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like what are we doing here?
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this whole tiebreaker again versus like you
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last year with all five of their
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went five and five and all five
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the South. Like I mean,
we're gonna run into problems. I think

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maybe a little bit more education and
clarification on the tiebreakers could be good.

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But like what Max is saying isn't
outrageous. I just don't think there's a

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perfect scenario in this, you know, I think you're gonna hurt someone's feelings

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somewhere. Well, because I saw
that I was pulling this up here at

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like this uh this Jake guy whatever
on Twitter, you know, he is

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like this is a travesty the Holy
Alli. It's like because no, no

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sub five hundred team has ever won
the division. Like, I mean,

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this happens in the NFL. It
happened, well, I should command there's

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two seasons ago, you know,
when they when the NFCS that it happens.

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I don't think it's a I don't
think it's a bad look. I

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think it's just it's the numbers and
that's the way it worked out. Like,

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I don't think this is a a
staying on the league, that there's

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something you know that that the BattleHawks
are and then and that you know potentially

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that the rent against whatever. IMA
Just think that's nonsense. I think that's

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something that people are picking on just
to kind of you know, pick on

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the XFL. Yeah, I mean, I mean it's it's definitely a possibility

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in in an eighteen league and that
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that's something I'll give credence to,
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in the USFL, there I think
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sub a sub five hundred team making
it because the starters don't look as good

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as you know, I was teaming
into that game a show the star zone

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look that good and Coucas has clearly
hurt, like he's gonna he's gonna keep

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playing, but he's not one hundred
percent. So you know, there's no

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Brian Scott, the case Coocas drop
the drop off. You know, there's

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case Coocas is some guy we haven't
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we might be dealing with this in
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So it's pretty I mean, I
don't know they're tiebreakers. Maybe they're

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different, maybe they have a better
system. Well maybe maybe they're just like

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we should start Maybe because of what
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for it a little bit like,
oh, let's let's not be that guy

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type thing, you know. So
yeah, I think it was also just

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hard that it was so convoluted last
week with the ESPN broadcast and bringing Dan

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on and then this week, like
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know, that Mike has been on
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the league and fingering that out.
It's it's that there was so much excuse

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me, confusion. It wasn't it
was such a in the minutia thing,

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and like I had Dean on the
show, and I know Dean like talking

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about it. But it's it's such
a thing that it's over. People SAIDs.

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I just think it is, you
know, and it will work unless

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you're the hardcore of the hardcore spring
football fan. You're not, you know

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whatever, And even if you are, like you're still you still can't just

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look at them like a text message
from someone you have to like, for

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me, like I'm a pretty visual
guy, Like I have to write it

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down and like, you know,
it's like if I'm getting these texas and

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I'm at dinner, I'm not working, Like I don't have my notepad in

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my back pocket, like you know, and if people are asking me,

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they want a simple answer, like
so are we winning or are we not?

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Like what's going on? Guy?
Like, and you know, I

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felt bad I couldn't provide a text
message worth of explanations to people. And

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but like I don't I don't pooplue
the league for this, you know,

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it's it's out of all the things
to get like on the high horse about

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like the spring football wars. This
this situation is like the least of my

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concerns. It sucks, like obviously, you know, I can't go to

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a game next week, I can't
cover a game, you know, but

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overall, like this is kind of
a least of my worries at this point.

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Uh, well, and we're gonna
talk USFL in here. I want

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to talk san Antonio not making it. It does feel like the animosity right

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now is adding all time high.
It's very very interesting. Uh. We

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were in the chat yesterday and even
people asking about, you know what,

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what is the USFL, what are
the breakers you know met with you know,

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like harassment of you don't know about
this. It's a it's a really

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weird time. I guess I'm glad. I wish I could go live tomorrow

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to talk about the radiance. We
have to work, but it really it's

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interesting right now. The world the
woman, Yeah, I mean it's it's

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it's you know, a similar So
it's parallel of the society. If if

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you don't like, you know,
this thing, you're against that thing and

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I mean, I don't know,
like I you know, it's it's it's

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trying to go back like to who
started it, you know, and I

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don't even know who started. You
know. It's kind of like the hat

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fields of the McCoy's, right,
like who actually who fired the first shot?

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Like because in my mind, in
my mind, there's two things that

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I think started this whole thing of
animosity, and like I think it was

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the Rod Woodson thing. I think
kind of ruffled a lot of feathers.

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I don't I don't want to put
the blame on Rod Woodson because I think

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I really don't want to put the
blame on anyone. I think the Rod

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Woodson thing kind of irked a lot
of people in the USFL. And then

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I think there was I think I
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people on Twitter who were very anti
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don't want to say they started it. But then it's like, you know,

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it kind of kicked back real hard, which is like natural society,

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right, Like if you're one way
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so far one way, then people
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this, so I'm gonna go the
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oh my god, how is you
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the BattleHawks because there's a team in
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mean that makes sense, you know, if you really think about it.

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out videos for both, like both
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real in more USFL articles this year
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mean, I'm going to cover both
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here to stay because in the end, what is it, eight hundred jobs

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per league? So if you celebrate
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controversy does great cash. But if
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you're essentially cheering the fact that eight
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know, well, and not only
not only the players, you know staff

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I chat, I was two out of

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them. What did you think it
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they san Antonio not making the field
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our boy Jay's team being in there. What did you make san Antonio

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just being on the outside looking them. I mean, they had plenty of

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opportunity. It's it's like you can
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team that they were within one score
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it off in the season with that
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all we all champion Saint Louis and
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mean we played to the level of
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that DC, even our first DC
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that first pick, you know,
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that guy stays on his feet,
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that's a nine yard game, you
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now there's a reverse on that score, and then like you know, it

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just it just kind of see,
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flat. That second DC game was
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like we didn't have a chance in
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it to any team like San Antonio
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of And I was the same Max. Yeah, like he I think he

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lost his NFL job with that kick. And it's unfortunate because of how good

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he was for the majority of the
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have his stats in front of me, but like I remember, every time

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there was a new like fifty yard
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Parker Romo and whatnot. It was
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while or two of the better kickers
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Warden made a lot, uh a
lot of great strides as a coach,

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because let's be honest, he was
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can go back, he wouldn't.
I wouldn't, and I was very vocal

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about this. I'm a read Senet
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the United type thing. But you
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only had two good games, Like
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they couldn't get into the end zone. Cavin Balage getting hurt. I mean

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that Brahmas team And granted we don't
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year, but I'd like to see
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against Cone, but there was a
lack of development and it felt like he

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was very stagnant and that offense really
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broke his foot. So I'm I
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seven Arlington's four and six, like
that margin of victory, isn't that or

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that margin of error for them,
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But in the end, like I'm
Arlington Air quote was the better team in

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the South on paper, So I'm
glad they, you know, are getting

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to play this Saturday. Yeah,
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like I guess at the end of
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happy it would It would have been
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the league. I know mccarn's been
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know, do you think that having
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in terms of like a pr and
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is that a is that a fine
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kind of really got a lot of
the focal uh you know view just this

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season, Hey, look at this
guy choosing the league and everything. Well

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it's not only AJ, it's the
whole team, right like because of you

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know, obviously with everything with Conky, So for them to bring a championship

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to the city, you could have
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stadium, like you know, they're
over I think they averaged what thirty four

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thousand for every game and whatnot.
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Darius Shephard was one of the most
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also a Missouri, a Missouri guy. There was a lot of local kids

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there as well. That made made
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lovable and with all the comebacks and
everything in the wackiness. But I think

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that was a great story. I
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people and Rick talked about it last
week about the Bend Nucci is m and

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you know, I don't want to
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bend Nucci. You know, like
he seems like a decent enough guy.

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But I know, Red, you're
right behind the bench. When I was

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at the BattleHawks game, I took, you know, some friends and my

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girlfriend. Did June Jones go up
to him at all? In between?

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Yeah? So I mean that sells
you something in my opinion. So I

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mean, there's there's a very big
family aspect, Like it seems like de

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Nucci's kind of like a loaner in
this you know that air quote. This

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league might be beneath him, you
know, because when in the press conference

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when he was walking up, he
was like how many yards did I throw

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for? And they were like x
x y z And He's like without rushing

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guards. He's like, they're like
x y z's all right, So I

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broke three hundred, that's all that
matters. And I'm like, okay,

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I mean your team just blew us
out. But whatever, So I do.

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It is weird. That's actually interesting
to bring it up. Just I

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do very different dynamics on the on
the St. Louis. And I don't

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know if that's like if if Beck
is kind of instilling that and he's with

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aj Has let's a different coach,
and you know, he's kind of doing

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his own thing and we're watching and
he kind of seems grumpy. And I

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know Seattle was playing with heavy hearts
kind of yesterday was all the Chris Smith

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and everything, and they did the
moment of Silence for him, which was

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great. But it does very different
dynamics between the Seattle team in between the

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Saint Louis team. I think that's
interesting. I mean, I think there's

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a lot more and this might come
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Di Nucci, you have Lindsay,
you have Gordon. You have a couple

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of guys who are just like their
their goals are clear, you know what

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I mean, Like this is I'm
just new this to get to the next

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level, while you have Aj who's
like, yeah, man, I could

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kind of just you know, go
through the Like he had three NFL workouts

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Peru. I think Aaron Wilson is
a guy who always posts the NFL workouts

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he had, Like I counted three
of his workouts for NFL teams. So

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I mean, I mean, like
we talked about earlier in the show,

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like it's AJ's world world just living
in it as far as his next contract,

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So I mean, Denucci had a
couple of NFL workouts. I saw

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it last year, but in the
end, like you know, he's still

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establishing himself and everything like that.
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and he's talked about multiple times.
I think they showed it on player fifty

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four. Is a different is another
coach. You know, he was like,

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I want to use the word grilling
Ryan Willis, but like he's like,

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Y and Z Hey, Bruce is
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just like, yep, that's what
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know. Indian Houston got in,
you know, so that that's good too.

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You know, we get to see
more way Phillips well, and I

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thought I have a question here for
you. But yeah, Wade almost getting

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taken out on the on the sidelines. I saw that very you know how

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mummy ask back in something with the
Houston something with the Texas sidelines. They're

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not the Heason but the Texas sides. We have a question here. It

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ties talking you know, Becks the
players coach. His press conferences are promotional.

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Made me what was Beck's post kind
of knowing they won, but it

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wasn't in their hands. What you
know, like it was up to sale.

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What was becked like post game on
the Saturday game against that Orlando So

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I wasn't at the game, so
everything I got the second the second hand,

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um from people who were there.
And I think he's a realist when

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it comes down to it, you
know, it's like, yeah, it's

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great, we've won. I think
he knows, Okay, we didn't take

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care of business for Seattle. Like
if if they obviously beat Seattle, we're

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not really having this conversation, you
know. So I mean he's a realists.

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He's been in the locker room,
He's been on some good teams,

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he's been on some bad teams.
He's been around the league. Um,

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these guys gravitate to him. He's
an amazing like like just a nice,

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nice guy. Like there's I can't
say anything negative about him. He first

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time head coach. You know this
is only a second coaching opportunity. Um,

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the poor guy last night was like
feverishly eating. You know, it

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was kind of a I kept like
shining shining the camera on him and he

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just had this look of dread.
And it's not so much that and obviously

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they want to win a championship,
but in my mind it was now I

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can't, like I'm losing this group
of guys, like the special group of

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dudes. And he's been vocal about
like and I know when you talk to

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him, he was like, yeah, you know, if all my guys

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leave next year, like I won
it as a coach, right, they

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all went to the NFL and all
that goofy stuff. But like he loves

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this team. He was being a
part of this team. He loves the

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men in this locker room, like
he loves all his staff, and like,

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you know, it's it's kind of
like your you know, your first

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your first hurrah. It's like nothing
will ever be as special as that first

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season. Bringing it back, feeling
the energy, all that goofy stuff.

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I agree with that, and I
think, you know, and I think

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the hub kind of instills out as
well, and we're all in that.

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I want to talk because obviously we
didn't see the broadcast. What what were

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they they were? They were showing
them like him and aj or whatever they

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were back in Arlington, because I
saw Stoops was at the Arlington game as

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well, and they had uh,
you know, Troy Aikman, and they

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said what were they showing back during
the game? Um? Like during so

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during the Arlington game, he was
in the booth. Yeah, Um,

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he was just you know, doing
this thing. AJ was on the sideline

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when I think Mateo Durant and they
were all at a restaurant. They had

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a live feed on them, and
he was just kind of like, you

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know, looking and then each as
the game was going over, he kind

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of looked a little bit more.
I hate to say this, but like

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dead inside and like the face and
like they would show it after a touchdown

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or they would show it when they
were driving, and he just kind of

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looked displeased. And then you get
like, like so I started on like

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the third time they did it,
I started looking in the background of like

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the other players and staff, and
the energy was getting sucked out of that

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restaurant and it was just, I
mean, it was just unfortunate. That's

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the only thing you can say about
it. Like, I mean, this

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guy, you know, put his
heart and soul and then everything. You

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know, AJ put his heart and
soul and then everything all those guys,

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you know, you have a keen
butler, you know, like his journey

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dming back. You have so many
different of these guys and he and something

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that doesn't really get talked a lot
is you have a lot of his guys

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and Dave Boeller, the d the
DPP, like those are guys that Becca

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has known for you know, almost
four years from the San Diego Fleet.

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So you had those guys like Don
the Kicker is a San Diego Fleet guy,

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a couple of the linemen, you
know, Tiny Tupo, Travis Feney,

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like there was a lot of retreads
that these so bec has known these

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guys for years. And then there's
the Iowa State connection like Mike Rose,

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Kim Butler, Willie Harvey, all
these guys Iowa State guys that he's connected

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to you because of his son,
and and it's just kind of a you

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know, it's it's over, like
regardless of anything, you know, but

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the thing is it can't be.
Don't be sad that it's over. Be

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happy that it happened, you know, kind of like the Kirk ben Kurt

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situation. You know, we're seeing
a lot of comments still about the playoffor

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and I want to talk to kind
of the usfl of it all as well

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here just because I think that it
was an interesting weekend for them, we're

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still seeing you know, we're adding
two more teams, make sure they get

406
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.480
expand. The problem to me is, I don't want it to be like

407
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.119
the Academy Awards, where like now
we have ten Best Picture nominations and like

408
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.400
everybody gets in, and we have
the CFL where everyone but like the you

409
00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:03.160
know, you have to be really
terrible in the CFL not to make a

410
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.519
playoff team. I think I think
there needs to be something earned. I

411
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.440
like the idea of that maybe the
division winners and then two and three play

412
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.720
and then you do a bye week
in there, but then you're then still

413
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.400
six of eight teams are making the
playoffs. I think I think this is

414
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.319
a fine format, but I could
see them working on figuring it out next

415
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:23.839
year because it's I don't know,
people seem displeased. I mean, four

416
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:30.400
teams is enough. I'll I'll be
a little bit more open to six teams

417
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:36.920
if if we obviously expand. I'm
pretty anti expansion for both these leagues because

418
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.960
until you get like actual owners and
like you know, all that stuff where

419
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.039
it's like some guy in Vegas owns
the Vipers, so if he wants to

420
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.279
make his team better, he'll pay
you know, Tom Brady five million dollars,

421
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.240
X, Y and Z, like
like, let's let's get these people

422
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:57.480
living here, Let's get these people
established, Let's get like, you know,

423
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:00.359
maybe not AJ's the best six sample, but you know, let's say

424
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.160
Gary Jennings wants to be here,
Like, let's get him in Saint Louis

425
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.880
to a four year contract kind of
how like in the eighties, the USFL

426
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:12.160
was going for it, and then
we can talk expansion. In my personal

427
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:18.319
opinion, I'm okay with the ten
game season. I think that, you

428
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.359
know, ten games is good,
you know, regardless of if there was

429
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:25.119
one spring league, eight spring leagues, whatever, it's just enough. Because

430
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:30.079
ultimately, until you can pay these
guys competitive NFL wages, there's no there's

431
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.640
no point, like, there's no
point let these guys, you know,

432
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.880
go. Obviously, you might like
Chris Smith rest in Peace was a decent

433
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.000
example because he was thirty two years
old, and that guy can make like

434
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.119
a practice squad salary because that's kind
of where he was at in his career.

435
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.000
Great, we've accomplished that, But
like the expansion talk to me,

436
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.160
which obviously leads into a little bit
of the playoff talk is a little bit

437
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:57.359
irresponsible at this point. And while
it sounds great, especially with the USFL

438
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:03.000
because you know they have god knows
how many franchises and trademarks, it sounds

439
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.839
good. And even to the XFL
because you can air quote bring back the

440
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.160
Birmingham Bolts and you know, the
LA Extreme or the LA Wildcats. It's

441
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.039
just to me, like, let's
let's both these ladies. Let's let's get

442
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.319
some continuity. Let's get some you
know, let's let's prove that we're not

443
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:25.559
going away in three years. I
agree, I think, and we've even

444
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.640
in the chat here comments Vegas,
we leave, they're already selling the season

445
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.559
tickets next year in Vegas. I
think we're locked in the cashman field.

446
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.119
Maybe they do some work on the
field in the off season, but I

447
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:37.680
think they're locked in there. I
think that you can fill that. I

448
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.200
see people they need to move to
bigger, bigger venues in Vegas. I'm

449
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.759
like that we need to we need
to fill, We need to fill what

450
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:48.039
we have here. Uh Max has
a comment here, and then I do

451
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.119
want to talk to USFL. We
have what did you what did you make

452
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.759
of the XFL players voting not to
unionize this last week. They have the

453
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.119
vote on Wednesday. I heard that
some of the pulling location sins were switched

454
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.519
last minute. The players weren't able
to get it. What do you make

455
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.440
of them not wanting to want voting? That's hard not to I mean,

456
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:14.119
I mean, I think right now
it comes with a little bit of we

457
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.599
don't know the specifics right there,
So like for me to make a comment,

458
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.680
anyone to make a comment on it, I think it's borderline that irresponsible.

459
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.680
Um, I will say this that
they work. It's not that they're

460
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:30.759
anti union or or whatnot. It's
that they didn't want the union with the

461
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:34.839
steel steel Workers. So I mean, how many people said no, Like,

462
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.440
how many people said no to that? But they still want a union?

463
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.640
Yes, Andy, I don't want
a San Diego franchise, not yet.

464
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.440
But how many people said no to
the steel Workers union but actually said

465
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:53.119
yes to you know, John Smith's
union or the NFLPA, which was brought

466
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:57.319
up a couple of times. So
I mean they're beyond them, you know,

467
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:02.440
like for making the decision of not
just I don't want to say blindly

468
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:07.400
following and whatnot, because but they're
you know, there's a really like in

469
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.480
the NFL, you want to unionize. There are some union there are some

470
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.319
unions that I think are great.
There are some unions that I think take

471
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:18.680
advantage of the situation whatever it is. But in the end, like you

472
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.759
know, these guys are making informed
decisions. Especially a lot of these guys

473
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.319
were in the NFL and they saw
the NFLPA like what it was and whatnot.

474
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:29.759
So I don't think they're making ill
advised decisions. I don't think people

475
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.839
ever thought about unionizing until the USFL
did it. So I think that's kind

476
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.839
of why the Steelworkers union kind of
you know, benefited on it. But

477
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:44.240
it is like, you know,
we don't we don't know the details.

478
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:47.119
And for us to get up here
and make like they're like, oh they're

479
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.599
dumb or all they're smart? Is
is it irresponsible? Now? The polling

480
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.880
situation and that's an issue obviously because
I feel like you can just do it

481
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:59.079
and the team facilities, but I
mean, we don't we don't know if

482
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.359
that's one hundred per true or not. You know, people, Yeah,

483
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.400
I'm a I'm a big proponent that
players are smart and kind of know know

484
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.599
what they're gonna do, right,
And I think that they Kenneth and them

485
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.839
came into the USFL situation last year
and said, we have to fix this

486
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:17.759
now, like we have to get
what you know. Again, I'm not

487
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.079
living in the hotels and doing all
that, but they said, we need

488
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.000
to deal with this and now.
And like I said, it could be

489
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:27.640
they want to figure out something different
with the steelworkers they do with LPA or

490
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.720
whatever. But uh, they've been
through this, they know what's going on,

491
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.079
and so I think that them,
I would trust them at this point.

492
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.039
I would trust the players. They're
wanting to do what they do best.

493
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:38.920
Obviously, if anything comes out,
we'll talk about it. But yeah,

494
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.480
I was surprised. I mean I
just kind of figure out they did

495
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:44.839
with the USFL, they're going to
do it here and maybe they're like a

496
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:51.759
bigger And that was my general general
like knee jerk reaction, um, especially

497
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:55.880
because we did see the positives of
what happened to USFL and whatnot. So,

498
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.640
you know what, Kenneth being there, it definitely in my mind,

499
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.880
you know, but he hasn't come
out of me the statement himself, so

500
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.880
you know that might tell you something
something about it, you know, I'm

501
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:12.880
great. I think he just got
surgery or something like that, so maybe

502
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.599
maybe his benefits are working pretty good
right now, so he's not got anything

503
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.759
to complain about. But I mean
until like, I'm curious to see what

504
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.880
Kenneth has to say when he kind
of gets his bearings under him and whatnot.

505
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.640
Yeah, I mean, I reached
out to Ryan and obviously he's been

506
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.640
on the show with Kenneth, and
I think if there's things and Ryan knows

507
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.119
that he can obviously, if there's
messages they want to get out, they

508
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:36.880
can do it with me as well. Something we're seeing still expansion talk everything

509
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.480
in the chat. I watched as
much of the US about this weekend as

510
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:43.160
I could. Obviously we were at
the game last night, so I didn't

511
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.640
see the Stars, you know,
our our team so surprising loss to the

512
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:52.200
Panthers in there. I did watch
the basically all of the New Jersey General's

513
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:58.799
Pittsburgh Mullers game. What to me, like the hub is not working right

514
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.440
now. I we we had down
attendance. I don't know when we're allowed

515
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:06.720
to talk about the Birmingham attendance on
Saturday. I saw the prelimbs for that.

516
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.559
Obviously the Breakers game, I daver
were more people on the field for

517
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:13.400
St. Louis than there was in
the stands for the Breakers game. What

518
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.559
are your thoughts on the USFL here
week two? Um, from a gameplay

519
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.920
perspective, I mean, the Maulers
are going to Mueller. I was talking

520
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.639
to someone about, like, oh, what should I do for my power

521
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:28.119
rankings? You know, the show
Boats obviously only scored two points, and

522
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.599
I was like, well, you
have to keep the Mullers last, because

523
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:36.920
I mean it's just, you know, there's continuity here of the last several,

524
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.039
like the last twelve games, you
know, of them have been just

525
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:44.559
subpar quarterback play and you're you're,
you're, you're going through the list of

526
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:49.519
Kyle Laalaa, Joshua Badly, Roland
Rivers, now James Morgan, and Troy

527
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:53.159
Williams. But I mean, can
we can we put a halt on the

528
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:59.519
Brady White experience? Um? It's
two folds on Birmingham. I talked about

529
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.960
it on your I've really about it. I think they retained like sixty something

530
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.360
percent of their roster from twenty twenty
two going into camp. Maybe it's a

531
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:12.599
little less because I know they cut
some guys and whatnot, but we saw

532
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.760
how good they were last year.
They shouldn't surprise anyone, granted the show

533
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.559
Boats. I don't you know,
the Brady White experience has not been a

534
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.239
good time. And I don't know
if you know this free, but he

535
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:30.519
went to Memphis and he coaches amphis
so obviously that needs him. Like that

536
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.400
means he needs to be the quarterback. And they gave Ryan Willis two series

537
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.800
and like you know, they removing
the ball decent at one point and with

538
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:44.239
Alex Collins and then kind of just
died. I'm a big Vinnie Popolli guy,

539
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.920
but Vinnie Popolli shouldn't be your number
one option at wide receiver, especially

540
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.840
when you have both Cyrus Mitchell.
If this is surprising you about how good

541
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.840
this Alex McGoo is, you haven't
been paying attention. Like this guy is

542
00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.559
crazy athletic. He's made plays all
over the field last year when he had

543
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:06.639
the opportunity. Obviously, Jamark Smith
last year, you know, did nothing

544
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:08.840
to lose his job. It was
an injury, just says Mago Magoo.

545
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.000
Did nothing to lose his job last
year. It was an injury in Week

546
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.280
one. Um, but um,
you know the Sounions are the team to

547
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.800
beat the cream of the crop.
Uh, you know, the Panthers look

548
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.000
way better, which we've talked about
than nauseum like cover the Panthers, and

549
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:28.440
you know, it's good to kind
of see everything. A lot of people,

550
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.000
you know, were knocking QB play
in last night's game, but I'm

551
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:36.239
like, it was raining pretty decently. The people were slipping and if you

552
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.840
look at Kokus and josh Love,
they're double clutching the football to get that

553
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.119
additional grip on it. So that's
why the routes are off, but like

554
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.000
they're making the right reads and that's
to me more important. And that's what

555
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.519
I was telling someone who's a Panthers
fan, like you know, Love didn't

556
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:53.480
play that well. I was like, well, he's playing in the rain,

557
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:58.159
he's double clutching the ball. You
know, his receivers were slipping,

558
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.840
but he was making the correct read. Like I think I saw three ill

559
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:07.159
advised passes from Joshua that what had
nothing to do with like, you know,

560
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.519
the elements. Um, I'm a
little disappointed. The Canton game looked

561
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.639
pretty okay during the day, you
know, for what it For what it

562
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.719
was, I'm very curious to see
what Ford Field is like next week.

563
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.519
I mean, like per ticket Master
and everything. It's gonna look pretty good.

564
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.440
I mean. And also the Lions
being good in the NFL kind of

565
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.800
keeps football on people's mind in Detroit, and you know they are they are

566
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.599
returning and whatnot, so we'll see. I mean, the quarterback player for

567
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.639
the Mullers has been trash um.
You know, per Cup looks okay,

568
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.320
but in the end, he wasn't
a star, and he wasn't a star

569
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.719
in the CFL, you know,
so, but he's he's already mid tier,

570
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.719
you know. And DeAndre Johnson,
my biggest thing has been like,

571
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:57.800
okay, you're the guy. Now
you're gonna have to throw the ball like

572
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.760
like more in ten yards and you
know he's not getting his feet set.

573
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:07.639
He's looking a little jittery because I
watched the Muller's game pretty in dept yesterday

574
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:14.400
and it doesn't seem for on Pittsburgh
side, like they are so wishy washy

575
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:20.519
as far as as far as um, like, okay, you get a

576
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.840
series. You know, it goes
back to that mantra, if you got

577
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.039
two quarterbacks, you got uh yeah, you know you got none. And

578
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:32.960
I've seen some things in the chat
right now, talking about talking about Canton,

579
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.800
you know, like they should just
do a Canton team. In my

580
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.239
personal opinion, I think Canton will
be a transitionary hub. Yeah, you

581
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:45.280
know, like so they're able to
get the breakers in the New Orleans.

582
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.760
They find the spot for Pittsburgh,
but they don't find the spot for Philadelphia.

583
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:54.159
Philadelphia, Um, we'll go to
Canton, you know, and that

584
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.880
that that makes as much sense to
me as it can be. You know,

585
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.000
I think they're Discovery, and I
think they thought, hey, we

586
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:05.360
got you know, seventeen thousand whatever
in there for the championship game, and

587
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.280
we can you know, if we
get there was not there was not a

588
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.280
lot of people. I think I
think the whole hub should be againdon just

589
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.480
because I think then you have the
Pro Football Hall of Fame and all that.

590
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.039
I don't know, I just I
and I don't want to be I

591
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.800
don't want to be the I'm already
the homer. I don't want to be

592
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.000
the homer in here. But they
get a lot of comments weave in in

593
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.239
the chire. Something is not working
with the USFL this season, and I

594
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.320
don't know if it is just in
comparison to the XFL. Right now,

595
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.400
and the games are meaning more because
we're in Week ten and you know,

596
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.440
we have crowds and it's a sell
on DC and we're cutting. But it's

597
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.400
something something doesn't seem to work.
I don't know if it's just more glaring

598
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.280
this year than it was last year. To me, it's it's kind of

599
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.400
the same. Like I said that
the Mahler's game yesterday, I'm like,

600
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.800
it's three three at half, Like
it's really hard to really hard to start

601
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:51.800
Monday watching this game and it's not
and it's not a good three three.

602
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.679
It's not like you know, there, you know, James Morgan is throwing

603
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:59.599
the deep ball and the defensive back
makes a great play or like you know

604
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.760
they're they're at the goal line and
you know they're just they're just move,

605
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:07.320
you know, you know, just
great defense. It was sloppy play,

606
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.480
you know, it was you know
and even if okay, we can talk

607
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.119
about oh there were sacks here and
there, but they weren't good sacks.

608
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.719
They weren't the defensive end going for
a good rip move and like putting some

609
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:24.079
good skill sets together. It was
the quarterback lost his first option and it

610
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.679
is just like, oh my god, where's the rest of the play going.

611
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.760
So it's you know, you know, these guys are still high level

612
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:36.239
athletes. If if you're in if
you're in the pocket for six seconds,

613
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:42.719
someone's going to be in your face. Um, I mean the uh,

614
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:49.519
what's the gap? The gap disparity
between the USFL is a little bit is

615
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.480
a little bit concerning to me as
far as with the play coming down like

616
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.239
that. That really bothers me.
Um, maybe the show Boats get it

617
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.480
together with another team. I mean, the Gamblers showed some life this week,

618
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.400
but I'm still not on team Kenji
Bihar like throwing three interceptions and whatnot.

619
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.639
I don't know if Terry Wilson is
any better. But regardless, like

620
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.840
the gap, the disparity between some
of these teams, because we can knock

621
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:19.800
on Orlando and I think Orlando gets
more hate because of Terrell Buckley more than

622
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.280
everything else because he's kind of a
living meme. But in the end,

623
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:29.320
like in the end, like the
Guardians were very fun to watch and competitive

624
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:32.320
and outside of their offensive line play, which is the biggest thing, you

625
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:37.320
know, they had decent quarterback play
with like Paxson Lynch Quinny Dormandy put up

626
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.719
some good games. Like even the
Saturday he had a good game, you

627
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.920
know, he regrets for two weeks
came back and we're not getting that with

628
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.559
the Mullers, you know. And
I know there's like Twitter debates of like

629
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.800
who would win the Mullers or the
Guardians, and like the Guardians like yes,

630
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.599
I mean like they would just their
receivers are so much better, you

631
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.639
know, when Ruben Fosters playing pretty
good than Boogie Roberts has been doing pretty

632
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:06.480
decent as well. He looks Bookie
Roberts actually looks way better this year,

633
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.519
you know, than he did last
year. And it's like those are only

634
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:15.199
two players, dudes, Like,
you know, we haven't tie here.

635
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.840
And I noticed this early on with
the XBL that it did seem like and

636
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.880
I don't know if it's ESPN,
if it has a wider reach or we

637
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:28.159
know that Fox we're where we're protecting
the USFL like don't you know we can

638
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.519
control everything, But it does seem
like I'm seeing many many more viral you

639
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.880
know, and everyone's sharing stuff from
the XBL than the USFL. Are you

640
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.480
do you disagree? Agree? What
do you think? I mean? What

641
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.679
do you what do you expect though, Like ESPN air quote the worldwide leader

642
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.760
in sports, Like, um,
I mean, you're gonna share these videos

643
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.559
and more people I think follow ESPN
or NFL on ESPN than they do,

644
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.239
uh, than they do with Fox
and whatnot. But I mean that remains

645
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:06.280
to be seen because now we're in
like like we're it's I feel like it's

646
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:12.000
not fair to talk about this because
now we have ten weeks of stories players,

647
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.400
you know, like like maybe it's
shame on us because we didn't do

648
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:21.840
our due diligence to like really keep
tracks on the track on this for the

649
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:27.159
first week two and three or one
two and three weeks because of like what

650
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.840
were the analytics of that? Right? So, like you know, now

651
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.159
everyone's like, Okay, the XFL
is around right now, that's great.

652
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.559
Oh there's another football league, the
USFL. So it's like I don't see

653
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:43.039
anyone, but like I don't see
anybody talking about the USFL. Yeah,

654
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.639
I mean I don't think they.
I don't think they will until the XFL

655
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.599
is over, because but then then
is it. I mean there's a three

656
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.960
three half game suddenly become more watchable
without the XFL. Like that's my question.

657
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.559
It's like, yeah, we had
Andrew Buckleton last week from Awful Announcing.

658
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.599
You know, we're talking like,
okay, it does the USFL get

659
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:05.840
a thirty percent bump here after the
XML goes out there? I don't know,

660
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:07.840
because like I wouldn't. That was
a horrendous game yesterday. I can't,

661
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:14.480
like five minutes we're talking with that
with because Prucop's wife in the stands,

662
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:15.639
I'm like, what are we doing
here? I don't know if that

663
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.480
that becomes more watchable when the XFL
goes away goes away. I mean,

664
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.039
I have no idea. I mean
I think I've said it in the group

665
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.400
chat, like Week five will be
the biggest indicator of where this league goes.

666
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.880
Like you should get a bump,
right, like just by like attrition,

667
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.559
like even if you know the games
are on at the same time whatever,

668
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:37.079
but you should get a bump at
least a couple hundred, hundreds of

669
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.119
thousands of people like just because they're
like, well, football is on,

670
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.079
because I mean that's who you're catering
to, right, You're catering to the

671
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.960
dude or you know, the dude
who's going to the bar, you know

672
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.719
after working and building his roof,
and you're like you know, I'm gonna

673
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.599
take take my girlfriend, my wife
out to dinner and we're gonna watch this

674
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:57.000
game. You know, Like that's
really who you're catering to. You're not

675
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.239
catering to like us on Twitter because
we're gonna watch no matter what because it's

676
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:05.159
air quote our job and you know, like we're supposed to and like we

677
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:07.599
need to know what's going on.
So it's it's like, how are they

678
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:14.000
going to attract the casual viewer and
like and that's the challenge for both leagues

679
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.280
right there. That's the challenge for
like any sport you know, coming in

680
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.559
the main stream. But honestly,
like, I have no idea. I

681
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.559
don't think the USFL is going anywhere, you know. I think I think

682
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.039
Fox has a five year plan that
they're ready to go kill the war with

683
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.760
and uh, you know, we'll
see what happens. But yeah, no,

684
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:36.840
they need to figure something out as
far as with these this quarterback play

685
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.719
and whatnot and the candle cannibalization of
the ratings and whatnot, because they're gonna

686
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.639
have to deal with this every year
for three what you know, for three

687
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:49.880
to four weeks. Well to me, and it hurts, it hurts the

688
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:53.679
momentum getting off right, because I
don't think you know, I don't like

689
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:55.679
you said. I think we're going
to see some growth, but I don't

690
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.400
think it's just going to spike overnight
with the X about Max has a comment

691
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.400
here and then aj I've started comment. We want to talk about. I

692
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.760
think the USFL exacts expected the interest
in the league to be more what it

693
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.119
was in the early weeks instead of
it looks like the interest was about where

694
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:10.239
it was at the end of last
season. Yeah, I don't see.

695
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.800
There was nothing in the USFL off
season save for a meaningless college draft.

696
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.880
I'm sorry, did anything you know? Okay, we relocated the show boat

697
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.559
six months ago. Okay, we're
doing that. Like there was nothing that

698
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:28.039
that you're ever going to get that
spiking and going into year two? Yeah,

699
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:32.280
I mean that's I mean, what
is there, Like what is their

700
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.760
goal? Like what is the reality
for for for them? Like what numbers

701
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.840
are they like, Okay, this
is good, this is sustainable? Like

702
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:46.280
are they going to be banking on
more like Commante Turbans, like you know

703
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:51.960
they kind of promoted. Are they
going to be looking for investors like the

704
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.320
Fred Smith of Memphis? Are they
going like what, like what is their

705
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:00.519
business model? Because I like and
I can throw that question at the XFL

706
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.880
as well, you know, like
like what is the goal? Like what

707
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.159
is okay to them? Like do
they want to pay these guys at some

708
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.599
point three million dollars a year?
Do they want to continue the path there

709
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.800
on? Or they you know,
is the Rock going to just keep putting

710
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.719
out black Adam movies to like fund
this? You know what I mean?

711
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.519
Like he's like, oh man,
like, okay, we're going into the

712
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.039
red Yeah, I guess I'll make
Moana too, you know what I mean?

713
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:30.519
Like that is like there's not a
set of goals in my opinion,

714
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:32.880
other than like, excuse me,
there's a set of goals, but like

715
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:38.039
what is the expectation? What is
the what is your actual Like Okay,

716
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.920
we need to make X amount of
dollars, we need to put X amount

717
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.840
of people in the stands, like
like obviously, and I asked the question.

718
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.639
I asked this question and I didn't
get an answer, was like what

719
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:57.119
is the expectation for the non hub
teams like and that, and like do

720
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.559
you are you factoring that into your
budgets or you just kind of like,

721
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.199
hey, Man, we get two
thousand people, like, that's a win

722
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.559
if we can get like a little
bit more transparency on that, like are

723
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:13.000
you good when not caring about any
of these other teams? Like you know,

724
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.159
are we focused? Are we riding
and dying on the stallions, the

725
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:22.639
show boats and the Panthers And that's
a very like very uh you know,

726
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.960
concerning thing for me right now.
Well, and we'll see Detroit next week.

727
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.480
And I think Detroit is going to
show up. But Canton did not

728
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:35.039
look good. Memphis looked good last
week. I think the numbers were inflated.

729
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.840
I think there was thirty thousand people
there. I'm sorry, Kurt Man,

730
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:42.079
but Birmingham looked really bad. Looks
really bad, looks really bad.

731
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:45.280
I go, So we like and
that's and I know it's Birmingham, and

732
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:46.679
I know it's the smallest city,
Like that is your hub. That is

733
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:51.119
if anybody in the world knows the
US and L exists, is the people

734
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.559
in Birmingham. You have the champions
here at the season one champions like the

735
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:59.239
rate that was a very part out
Saturday night and I know that was it

736
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.000
Shanias and there something was playing down
the way like there was a Rodeo,

737
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.599
there was a Roadsdale and there was
a new Gas Stages company. But at

738
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:13.000
some point, like I just don't
understand, like that's your hub, Like

739
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.360
that's your base. If you can't
fill Birmingham, I think you got a

740
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.360
problem. Yeah, And like I
just want to know if they're okay with

741
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.519
that, like if you're if you're
if you're good with that, like if

742
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.800
you're like, we do not care
about attendance. We are making our money,

743
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:29.599
and we were paying our coaches,
and we were doing X and we

744
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:34.960
were doing why and all the all
all the checks are going through. That's

745
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.800
fine. Like I don't care,
like you know, I mean, like

746
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.239
if you are okay with that,
but like what is the goal? And

747
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:46.880
that's a little bit like don't like
a little bit skittish to me on like

748
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:51.079
where we're at moving forward, because
I like, while I do think the

749
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:55.199
x val doesn't have the most you
know, transparent bowl, I think this

750
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.360
is a little you know this there's
a little bit of showmanship on aspects they

751
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.239
are still in their city, you
know, while attendance in some places aren't,

752
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.840
you know, as I think Saint
Louis has messed up the attendance metric

753
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:13.039
of like, you know, maybe
if last year, if Saint Louis didn't

754
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.480
exist, and he told me fifteen
thousand people went to the Sea Dragons a

755
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:20.519
spring football game, and Seattle fifteen
thousand people, I'd be like, oh,

756
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.559
that's really good. And now you're
like, well, Saint Louis at

757
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.880
thirty three thousand and you're like,
well, see, Yattle is better than

758
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.440
Saint Louis, Like shouldn't they have
more? You know what I mean?

759
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:35.400
Like the Saint Louis thing has messed
up my metric of what is a good

760
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.199
attendance for a spring football game,
especially going there too, like like I

761
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:44.159
don't have the appropriate dancer. Well, and I said, we'll see when

762
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:46.000
the USNR ratings come out tomorrow,
because that's the things that we don't care

763
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:50.599
about attendance. We only care about
ratings. And ratings were down over last

764
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.960
year, and they were down last
week, and I don't care whenever Fox

765
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:58.199
PR wants to span the four percent
increase, like ratings were down and that

766
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:00.679
whatever you did it to yourself.
You had the sibelcast and everything else,

767
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:06.880
and that's you know, whatever else
last year. But I'll see. I

768
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:08.440
think it's going to be I think
ratings tomorrow are going to be very,

769
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:13.679
very interesting. And the four percent
thing kind of irks me, right because

770
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:16.840
we'll put it into like two different
perspectives. In my mind, if I

771
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:22.079
told you I was running back and
I had fifteen hundred yards my first season

772
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:29.000
and my second season I had two
thousand yards but we played six more games,

773
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:31.679
was I had better running back?
You know what I mean? Like

774
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:37.119
like you know, you know you're
robbing Peter. It was a robbing Peter,

775
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.880
the pay Paul type thing. Like
in my mind, I think it's

776
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.440
better if if let's say so they
hit seven forty, right, and like

777
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:52.920
what it was, like seven forty
was the average. If my whole metric

778
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:59.480
was like between eight fifty and six
seventy, I'm wayed better with that than

779
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.400
Okay, we had four million and
then twenty six people watch that like yeah,

780
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.760
we're up four percent. Yeah,
but like the disparity is not where

781
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.280
you should be, Like I would
rather be within one hundred thousand of that

782
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.880
seven hundred and like that seven hundred
average, where like, okay, we're

783
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.599
pertaining a good base. You know
you could you could, you can,

784
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.239
you could do a decent job if
you got seven hundred thousand people watching every

785
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:27.559
game, you know, like a
true average rather than like, you know,

786
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.400
four million to one thousand type thing
like that. That to me is

787
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.199
like because now you're just like you're
grabbing your eyeballs, but you're not keeping

788
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:40.000
them. And that's and and that's
and that's where I like I kind kind

789
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.440
of been like like, okay,
like yeah, four percent raise, but

790
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:49.840
why was anyone watching other products?
So because honestly, the Mullers are like

791
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:54.199
and granted it's not a coach in
the sidelines or season behind the scenes.

792
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:58.320
It's probably a coaching thing with schemes, but it's not a coaching thing as

793
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:01.280
far as like these guys are jokes
of men, Like this is a respectable

794
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:05.639
group of men doing a good job
trying to do and like, you know,

795
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:09.159
there's not the outside nonsense of what
we saw at the Mueller's last year

796
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:14.679
of like Kirby Wilson, like Benchi
badly for no reason, Like it's just

797
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.639
some of these guys aren't as good
as the other guys, and like that's

798
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:22.199
football, that's sports. But you
know, like if they're not, it's

799
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:29.320
not fun to watch. The USFL
has not I thought the Showboats game last

800
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:30.599
week it was I felt the same
with last year. I thought the kickoff

801
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:36.360
was good, good energy, and
then it's just something missing there. Like

802
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.559
I said, I don't always like
the XFL's personality, and I think that,

803
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.199
you know, they carry themselves too
seriously or they do whatever sometimes.

804
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:47.039
But to me, the USFL has
has no personality. And we have James

805
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:51.920
collins Worth there that kind of sounds
like Chris or watching and we got what

806
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:57.719
was his name, Michael h a
seahawk guy Robinson. Yeah, and like

807
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.199
Mike, I didn't think he was
great last year. I don't know if

808
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.719
he's any better this year. Like
it just feels I don't know, something

809
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.519
feels a ride there. And maybe
it's just because the XFL games meant more

810
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:12.440
this weekend. But oh yeah,
JJ's reminded me well. And then we'll

811
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.800
get out of here pretty soon in
an hour. He wants to know who

812
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.360
has the better quarterbacks because this will
hortail back into because I want to talk

813
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.559
about Bend Nicia before we get out
of here. USFL or X Who has

814
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.599
a better quarterbacks? Right now?
It's the XFL, Like like there's two

815
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:30.760
metrics, so this people are gonna
poo poo me for this, and that's

816
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:37.320
fine because you know, obviously I
don't know ball, but U but uh,

817
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:40.880
I mean I cover when I do, Like I have spreadsheets. I

818
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.239
have way more spreadsheets about this stuff
than I care to admit. But when

819
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:49.559
I cover like the XFL quarterbacks,
the USFL quarterbacks, and if you guys

820
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:52.400
don't know, I cover the quarterback
rankings on my YouTube channel analyzes an Educate.

821
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:57.320
But there's two factors I throw this
in there. I throw in um

822
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:02.159
pass attempts at the NFL, and
I throw in income earned at the NFL.

823
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:07.960
And then last year, the USFL
going in the season one had I

824
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:13.639
think eighteen million dollars earned like like
all their guys. This year it was

825
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:20.119
like six. Now, I didn't
factor in MBTs like income from the CFL,

826
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:24.840
and I didn't factor in procups income
from the CFL, so you're like,

827
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:30.199
Okay, maybe that's a little bit
closer or whatever. The XFL had

828
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:34.960
like I think thirty thirty eight million
dollars earned by their quarterbacks and like it

829
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.719
was inflated because of aj and Paxson
Lynch. Okay, they accounted for like

830
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:43.400
twenty eight and then you had you
know, banker. Even Louis Sperez had

831
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.920
a decent amount. Slower's got like
two million dollars, Plitz got a little

832
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:52.280
bit of signing bonus money go down
the list. So there's definitely well and

833
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:55.239
then people might combat me with like, Okay, that doesn't matter. Well

834
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.800
to an extent, it does because
now you have guys that even if you're

835
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.440
the fourth string in training camp him, you're still there, especially if some

836
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:05.760
of these guys are around, you
know, like being the like Reed Sinette

837
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:08.440
was around Tom Brady, he was
around, Mike McDaniel, he was around,

838
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:13.239
he was around you know, Jalen
Hurts, Carson I think he was

839
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:16.800
there with Carson Wentz. But if
now you know he's been around quarterbacks to

840
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:22.920
learn from these guys and like being
these systems and like that stuff matters.

841
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:28.079
And yeah, um Max, I
think d Nucci's like in the almost two

842
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:31.880
million U because he did play it
three years and active, but stay on

843
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:36.239
track, like that stuff matters,
like you know, outside of in my

844
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:38.719
mind, you have Carson Strong a
couple of tea, a cup of tea.

845
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:43.800
James Morgan has been around a couple
of teams. Obviously, you know,

846
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:46.480
case Kukis has been like on six
different teams, including a CFL team,

847
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:52.360
But like MBT is the class of
the class there, like between him

848
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:54.679
and Alex McGoo, I think is
one of the top earners as well.

849
00:56:54.840 --> 00:57:00.000
Like like we love Jamar Smith,
but he had fifteen minutes with the Patriots

850
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:05.519
and then another twenty minutes with the
tie Cats. Like the NFL experience,

851
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.239
even if they were just like going
to be camp bodies, they're still going

852
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:12.639
running the scout team, you know, and that matters to me. And

853
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:15.679
you know, the more practice squads, the more training camps, the more

854
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:20.519
preseason games you're part of, all
that stuff matters in the long run of

855
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:23.719
the quarterback player, especially now because
some of these three and four year guys

856
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:30.679
for twenty twenty udfas, they didn't
get a real training camp, they didn't

857
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.920
get real workouts because of COVID and
everything like that. So now it's like

858
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.559
it's like there's even they're all,
you know, a year behind, and

859
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:47.199
not just for quarterbacks but everyone.
So short answer to the X Y Joe's

860
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:51.159
like, hes, yeah, you
know, President Nuitie mccarin town. But

861
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:54.159
then there's a big drop off half
the quarterbacks. Yeah, I mean,

862
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:59.280
I mean there's yeah, like yeah, man, only half of the league,

863
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.320
Only only half of the league has
good quarterbacks. Yeah, well have

864
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:07.440
I have you heard of the NFL? Like have you seen Week fifteen?

865
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:12.440
The Week eighteen in the NFL?
You know, then gonna this is another

866
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:17.800
ran. Sixty eight guys started last
year at the quarterback position in the NFL.

867
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.199
That was more than COVID year when
they were like, oh you saw

868
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.079
someone who you thought had COVID.
Yeah, man, you're out for a

869
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:30.079
week, like like there wasn't any
COVID reserve really last year, you know,

870
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:35.760
you had illness whatever, So all
that nonsense, like these leagues need

871
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:38.679
to figure like need to you know, be around to be like you know,

872
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:42.840
Tammy might go from like the third
string to you know, you know,

873
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.880
fourth string to the Heineke situation.
Granted the COVID thing kind of maybe

874
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:50.480
regress that, but these guys are
getting hurt, you know, and there's

875
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:54.239
a lot of controversy as far as
like what's going on with the practices and

876
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:58.679
like are they you know, should
they go harder in practice because when they

877
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.079
go to the games or bobbies Ready, I don't that's not my job to

878
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:06.360
care about, Like from a media
standpoint, but in the end, like

879
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:10.000
they you know, half of the
league is a good quarterbacks, Like that's

880
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:15.280
not a bad number. Like no
matter who you who who what, like

881
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:20.039
what league it is? Max says, here interesting some of the guys that

882
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:22.079
passed on the XFL to go to
the USFL. And then you know,

883
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.880
still are you know, ask Brian
Willis about that. I mean, I

884
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.679
mean Max, like and you know, like your feedback on this, to

885
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:34.480
be fair, a keel glass and
David's cheek did have a good a good

886
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:38.079
chance of starting because Zach's because Zach
Smith was there. And then this yeah,

887
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:43.079
yeah, like you know, he
follows it up like MBT comes to

888
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.760
New Orleans like, who are you
going to bench? You know, like,

889
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:52.719
are you gonna bench MBT over a
keel glass and uh in David's cheek?

890
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:53.760
You know, it kind of sucks
because this is kind of a red

891
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.119
shirt year for them as long as
MBT space healthy. But he's put together

892
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:00.800
two good games. In my mind, he's a top two quarterback in the

893
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.840
league. You know, Magoo is
playing out of his mind, Josh Love,

894
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:07.440
you know, playing really well.
You know, pruke up is that

895
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:13.119
kind of that line of demarcation,
like if your quarterback is worse than pruke

896
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:15.760
up, you would bench him.
If he's better than you're a good type

897
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:21.840
thing. So my boy, my
boy, Chris here checking in the section

898
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:24.800
one thirty five. We're in Seattle, Chris enjoying that. I want to

899
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:29.960
talk about the playoffs before we get
out of here. We're talking CONNECTIVEL players

900
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.639
go right to the USFL. They're
under contract, right, they under contracts.

901
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:38.519
Now, if you give a shameless
plug buy Mike Mitchell on Twitter,

902
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:45.199
we'll we'll be able to answer all
those questions. Because like the playoffs scenario,

903
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:50.559
I've you know, when Mike talked
about it, someone was it on

904
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:53.679
your show that they were talking about
it. I believe like the release of

905
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:58.039
the contracts and whatnot, I've seen
it. I've seen it. Yeah,

906
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.639
it's this whole I think, the
contract and who's with the USFL and how

907
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:05.960
many years and the L my understanding
that both leagues you have to it's it

908
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:08.719
out for the NFL, and that
is it, right, So I mean,

909
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.599
I know there are players who are
trying to like figure it out,

910
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:16.440
you know, because but I think
that would be a pretty cool thing to

911
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:22.360
see, like these guys bounced between
the XFL and the USFL, just the

912
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:25.719
like one obviously, you know.
More, if they're signing you to the

913
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.360
USFL, they think you can help
their team, so that would raise the

914
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:34.599
competition level. And that's not the
XFL versus USFL like war like, don't

915
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:37.320
take it as that. That's just
reality. If a coach wants to sign

916
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.719
any player, it's because they think
they will help the team. Like,

917
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:45.280
don't don't, don't get on your
high horse about that Twitter. But um,

918
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:47.880
I mean, I mean, I'd
like to see it, you know

919
01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:52.199
if especially guys who were like that, like third string receiver, you know,

920
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.880
who put up some numbers, like
let's see what they can do.

921
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:59.920
But yeah, I have anything here, max is you know. And I

922
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:01.119
didn't want I didn't want to make
a big deal about this, but you

923
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:07.519
know, chairwoman Danny Garcia of the
XFL does not follow me and Mike Mitchell

924
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.920
on Twitter. I was first,
I was first first, but I will

925
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.559
say and then Mike put it out, so, uh, Mike Mitchell got

926
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:17.039
mentioned by XFL today and this rounds
out kind of my comment. Here is

927
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.920
I do and this is my hope. I think, you know, we're

928
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.800
getting through XFL and like it's I've
talked with people at the league and even

929
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:30.800
doing stuff with Dean last week,
and like we're getting through everything now.

930
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:35.559
My hope is, now we're getting
through this, we can start engaging a

931
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:37.599
little bit more with you know,
the content creators, you know, with

932
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:44.440
people you know like this, Mike's
a reporter that's no different than NFL network,

933
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.800
you know, showing or ESPN showing
schefter's tweet and so and so got

934
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:52.079
you know, traded to the Ravens
or whatever. Like Mike as a reporter,

935
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.360
Mike covers the league. I think
it's phenomenal, Like it makes you

936
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:59.039
feel bigger than it is when you're
able to show other people and and it

937
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:02.159
that what that as of that builds
up Mike, Joe, you know there's

938
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:05.760
all positives there. What what do
you what did you make of that?

939
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.840
And Mike his playoffs scenario is getting
talked about the next I mean, if

940
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:14.159
you don't know who Mike Mitchell at
this point is like you're and unless you

941
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:16.239
know, I'm not gonna harass you, Like you know, you don't know

942
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:21.519
what the New Orleans Breakers are,
but but if you know, if you

943
01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:25.039
don't know who Mike Mitchell is like
in reality, obviously buy Mike Mitchell on

944
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:30.559
Twitter. He's he's he's so plugged
into this. I think he's admitted like

945
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.760
he's he's so old that he was, you know, covering the the AFL

946
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:38.239
in the sixties. But no,
he's been he's been an og USFL guy

947
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:44.639
covered the XFL one point zero UFL
you know, probably the Spring leg.

948
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:49.960
The amount of work he does,
like good work, and this is gonna

949
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.039
sound a little, you know,
bland, but the amount of good work

950
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:57.760
he does to not just to get
the information out, but for the leagues,

951
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.199
for the two like for the players, for the coaches, like this

952
01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:05.280
guy's this guy's in it, you
know, and I hate to you know,

953
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:09.199
sometimes we take advantage of it,
you know, because it's like how

954
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:11.400
like, well, I don't need
to know this because Mike does right,

955
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:16.440
like Michael figure out. But like
the amount of like like yeah, you

956
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:19.400
know, like I'm I'm drinking a
rain beer. Everyone go to Mike Mitchell

957
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:25.000
about about questions today. But I
mean he's, you know, and he

958
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:29.400
he's he's he's he's a nobs type
of guy, you know, and he's

959
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:30.880
you know, these are the facts
to deal with it. If you can't

960
01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:34.320
deal with it, that's that's a
that's a U problem. Yeah, Mike

961
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:38.599
Mitchell is the Adam Schefter of spring
football. And you know something that gets

962
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:43.400
lost in it is his love for
the CFL. You know, yeah,

963
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:48.840
what's up? And yeah, I
mean Mike is Mike is in a euphoric

964
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:54.559
you know, you know, pleasure
zone with all this going on. You

965
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:59.079
know, So I mean it's it's
it's a great thing to see. But

966
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.719
h I mean we're off TANGI yeah, no, it would be cool,

967
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.639
um, you know, because you
know, I've been very you know,

968
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:08.599
not to come off as selfish,
but like I've been, I've been tracking

969
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:13.559
a lot of the quarterback records and
you know, there was no mention of

970
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:17.719
that outside of the one tweet that
you sent me for Bleacher Report and then

971
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:24.280
Pro Football Talk wrote a story about
AJ mccaron, but they don't mention Bend

972
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:29.920
Nucci in it, like Benda Nucci
broke Tommy Maddox's yards record. So it's

973
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.960
kind of like, I know,
you saw my tweet, like it was

974
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:38.360
like almost like thirty thousand impressions,
you know, just because you saw the

975
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.519
AJ one. Did you did you
actually do the research and look it up,

976
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.840
you know, like that's an issue
I have, Like, you know,

977
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:47.079
Benda Nucci is still an air quote
sexy name. Like you couldn't even

978
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:51.000
like look up his like thing.
You know, like it literally takes like

979
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:55.119
it took me ten minutes to like
put the correlation, like, oh,

980
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:57.440
he's staring for a lot of yards, like and you know, I have

981
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:01.239
the whole list of like active quarterbacks
like the passing ranking since post two thousand,

982
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.800
especially with the USFL. Now I'm
getting ready of the right articles about

983
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:11.480
this for the eight franchises. I'm
gonna do like a quarterback spotlight from the

984
01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:15.159
eighties. I just thought it was
the funny comment. And now according to

985
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:18.440
four or five years of ultrails huntway, they'll think Mike Mitchell is anti us

986
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:21.039
Vell. There's no change in their
plans. Yeah, I mean, like

987
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:25.000
I don't I don't want to come
off as like worl and harassing people,

988
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:29.920
but like stop stop, stop,
stop, you guys are gonna stop because

989
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:32.079
like in the end, you're gonna
like find someone who, like I don't

990
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:38.000
know, he knows how to use
the Internet and has access to like my

991
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:41.239
thing was my thing was this?
It was yesterday and then we'll get out

992
01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:45.320
of here seeing that promise. Uh, you had someone tweeting about the USFL

993
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:47.079
like why why are why are the
breakers? Like why are they not in

994
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.800
New Orleans? Like what's going on? And you could have had someone gone

995
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:54.880
there go hey, you know this
is the new League and like it's Fox

996
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.960
and they're trying to save money and
they're working towards that and we have expansion.

997
01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:00.039
Instead, you have a bunch of
people man's laneing in the comments like

998
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.400
would you even know bro get out
of here? I'm like I would.

999
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.800
And then if I was that guy, like I would never watch the USFL

1000
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:09.719
ever again, thank you very much
for saving my time on that I was.

1001
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:13.400
Yeah, if I was that guy, I would to be so penny

1002
01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:16.519
depending on how much time he has. I would go to whatever street he

1003
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:20.239
lives on, you know, so
he's in New Orleans, so you know,

1004
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:24.840
downtown of Bourbon Street, and I
would go to every bar and I

1005
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:29.480
would turn on the XFL on every
bar. We mean, hey, I

1006
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:31.880
will give you ten dollars if you
put this game on. Just don't change

1007
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:38.440
it to inflate the ratings, just
because that has definitely done that last year

1008
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.519
where I you know, we were
at we were at you know, some

1009
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.039
vacation place and I went to like
seven bars and just turned on the USFL

1010
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:49.800
on every channel and it had different
like I was definitely boosting views, and

1011
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:53.679
I was like for the brand.
And it's like when you go I used

1012
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.519
to go in like the Apple Store
and like subscribe to people's YouTube channels or

1013
01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:59.480
whatever. Going down all the fund
and that I have a question. Didn't

1014
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:00.960
need a lot more Saturday Pro Football
and then we'll talk. We'll get out

1015
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:05.400
of here. Said x had a
very very very successful season Disney Network back

1016
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:08.960
he making lots of TV money,
kept the teams closer to trouble with your

1017
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:11.719
thoughts, Um, I mean I
think xevel's got to be thrilled right now.

1018
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.000
I think I think they gotta be
thrilled. We're gonna do the championship

1019
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:15.439
game. DC sold out. I
hope they sell out this week. I

1020
01:08:15.479 --> 01:08:19.399
think tickets look pretty good for that. I don't know Houston. I think

1021
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:21.399
that's going to be tougher, but
I think they'll have a good show in

1022
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:28.199
there. Like grade the XFL here
going into the playoff games, and I

1023
01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:30.920
would say, I would say,
B like you know, like to give

1024
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.880
it an a would be excusing some
of the blindness. I think in the

1025
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:39.680
early part we had some issues,
especially Like one thing I do like about

1026
01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:44.199
the USFL is their transactions are very
transparent. Um you know, it's just

1027
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:48.039
on Twitter, Like how were we
finding out players players were announcing they were

1028
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:53.279
getting signed or like you know,
scrolling through the transaction page like that training

1029
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:57.319
camp period was very frustrating for me
as far as doing cuts and everything like

1030
01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.640
that. Um, there were so
you know, the cashman Field thing.

1031
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:08.239
I don't the cashman Field is not
a positive in my mind. Um you

1032
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:13.720
know, I'm a little I'm a
little skeeved by this playoff thing because I

1033
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.640
think and and this is me taking
my bias as a Saint Louis guy out

1034
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:23.800
of it, I mean, coming
out your cave there, ubl um.

1035
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:28.239
But uh, I'm a little schewed
by it. I just wish there was

1036
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:32.279
a little bit more like transparency and
and just because I didn't know, you

1037
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.600
know, what was going on as
far as you know, it was a

1038
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:41.199
very fluid situation. Something I think
they could have did a little bit more

1039
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:46.279
is embracing kind of the two thousand
and one numbers I get like the connotation,

1040
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:51.000
but like no one has a problem
with Tommy Maddox from from the XFL

1041
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:54.880
in two thousand and one or like
Jeff Brown or whatever, like they have

1042
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:59.520
a problem with Vince and NBC and
that's fine, but like, you know,

1043
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.600
some a little bit of the Vegas
correlation for you know, the outlaws

1044
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:05.319
and he hate me. I thought
would have been cool. That's something,

1045
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:11.039
and like that is one of my
favorite things about like the USFL is like

1046
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:15.039
now that like they got all the
lawsuits behind them, like they brought some

1047
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:17.840
of the stallions back for Week one, Like you know, I think it's

1048
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:21.520
cool that like now there's like fluidity
and I would have liked to seat at

1049
01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:25.960
it with the two thousand and one
you know, like a J. McCarron

1050
01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:30.039
just threw more touchdowns and Tommy Maddox
did and all that stuff like that would

1051
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.399
have been cool to me. And
I don't know what the reasoning is.

1052
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:36.239
You know, it's not as public
as like the lawsuit was with like the

1053
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:42.239
eighties USFL to like twenty and twenty
two, but like incorporating some more two

1054
01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:45.039
thousand and one stuff would have been
cool. Yeah, I know, we

1055
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:48.880
have Paul Reats on last week he's
the USFL historian over the our sports central.

1056
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:53.439
I don't that that doesn't do a
lot for me, seeing like the

1057
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.800
herschel Walker highlights on the US and
on Twitter or whatever. But it's fine.

1058
01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:59.199
I mean, it is what it
is like when they come out and

1059
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:04.359
say this is the touchdown in Memphis
in forty years. I don't it doesn't.

1060
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:08.279
But I didn't live through that time. So maybe maybe if I lived

1061
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:11.119
through that time, I would be
a lot more excited about that. I

1062
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:17.000
like it from a historical, like
statistical point of view, and I think,

1063
01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:21.000
you know, so like like right
now, obviously they played more games

1064
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:25.560
in the eighties in the USFO,
right like they played you know, eighteen

1065
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:29.840
game seasons times three, you know, thirty fifty four games, right,

1066
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:33.319
so it would take our quarterbacks five
years to get to that point. But

1067
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:42.319
like how cool you know you you
put the you put the this the graphic

1068
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:47.640
of you know, Chuck Chuck Fishina
who was the Baltimore Stars guy against Case

1069
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:53.600
Cooks if he were across like the
career passing like because now now, in

1070
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:59.159
my opinion, it shows like fluidity
and transparency and whatnot. Not transparency,

1071
01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:02.279
It shows like length and culture of
it because now it's like, well,

1072
01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:05.119
you know, it's not season because
I hate when they say season two,

1073
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:10.319
like it's not a TV show,
it's the twenty twenty three season. I

1074
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:14.920
think XFL three point zero is appropriate
because there has been breaks and iterations and

1075
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.359
changes, but it's not season two, Like I find that really cringe,

1076
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:21.880
you know, especially with the lawsuit
done. This is the fifth season of

1077
01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:26.520
the USFL, Like, like,
I get it, but you know,

1078
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.800
it's a big accomplishment to have a
spring football league. But like, you

1079
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:32.479
know, don't don't be doing the
meme where like you're in third place losing,

1080
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.680
you know, when the first place
second place, Like I don't like

1081
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:40.920
guys, like the season two thing
is just too cringe for me. The

1082
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:45.159
twenty twenty three like I never refer
to it as season two in my articles,

1083
01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:47.880
like going into the twenty twenty three
season. As we look to the

1084
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:53.560
twenty twenty three season, like established, you guys are established? Do it?

1085
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:57.760
Act like it? I see?
I completely disagree, and that's really

1086
01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:01.199
funny. I I don't think Brian
Woods and be a friend of the show.

1087
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.399
I don't think. I don't think
Brian Woods buying similar trademarks entitles them

1088
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:08.560
today. I don't, I don't
and I I whatever. I don't know

1089
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:11.720
if that's a controversial take or not, but I would I would much rather

1090
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:15.720
the USFL to do its own thing
right now. And I'm probably wrong,

1091
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:17.920
and everyone's watching it for nostalgia,
but to me, it's been messy from

1092
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:20.920
the start. It hinders it,
it gets convoluted and all that. And

1093
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:25.159
like, I don't care about the
Memphis show boats, like you could call

1094
01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:27.560
them anything and play it back like
I don't, I don't care. But

1095
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:29.840
again, I did not live through
that time, so I'm probably not the

1096
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:31.760
one that asks. But do you
agree with me as far as like the

1097
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:38.279
continuity, as far as like the
brand the branding of like case cook is

1098
01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:43.960
all time leader in in AH in
passing yards for the startups. I don't

1099
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:47.279
I think this. I think USFL. This isn't something I do. I

1100
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:53.119
think, and I probably the XFL
as well. It's different. I get's

1101
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:57.560
totally different. It's like staff and
what was the level of talent back then?

1102
01:13:57.720 --> 01:14:00.840
And they played all these different games
roles like you're the stat guy and

1103
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:04.119
not the one of the crusher dram
Like I, yeah, I have a

1104
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:09.399
hard time of like, uh,
yeah, I think it's something. I

1105
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:13.199
think it's there. I think they
should be completely separate, but I certainly

1106
01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.000
appreciate the history of it and everyone
that you're there. Maybe I'm maybe I'm

1107
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.239
a tell tell me the chat and
my wrong, Jared says, USFL serious

1108
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:25.439
finality, Jesus, God, God
forbid. Man, Like, you know,

1109
01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:29.560
I hope both of these leagues last
for you know, until I don't

1110
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.359
feel like covering football anymore. Man
Like. Like that's the thing too,

1111
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:35.960
is like I know I know some
guys, not not players, but coaches

1112
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:42.960
who they coach, you know,
the like Jonathan Timeback is a perfect example,

1113
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:44.920
you know what I mean, Like
he does his own thing in the

1114
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:47.920
fall coaches four months and then he's
like and then he's like, dude,

1115
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:50.079
I just made one hundred and fifty
grand this year, you know what I

1116
01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:54.119
mean. Like, I don't know
what the coaches get paid in the XFL

1117
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.479
or USFL obviously not one hundred and
fifty grand. But it's a good it's

1118
01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.600
a good side the hustle for them
that, you know, continue to do

1119
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:03.640
what they love. But um,
you know, like it's a good side

1120
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:08.199
hustle to what they do and you
know, supplement their income and continue to

1121
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:11.439
do what they love. Like being
an NFL coach has a lot of demands,

1122
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:15.720
Like you could still be a pro
coach and see these dudes, uh,

1123
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.880
you know, continue to progress and
you know, like you know,

1124
01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:23.319
Beck Beck is going to be on
the sidelines watching the Sun play or being

1125
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:27.079
doing the Jets radio next. You
know, so he's got he's got the

1126
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.279
best of both worlds. And you
know, Mike Riley gets to bring his

1127
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:32.479
kid to be on the sidelines or
his grandson, which I think is kind

1128
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:35.319
of cool. Like a lot of
people think that's plain. But my dad

1129
01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:39.399
was a firefighter. He used to
take me to work. So take that

1130
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.199
for word. It's worked. Well, that might be work. I didn't

1131
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:46.520
go this is going this is the
Canton and famle. Yeah, it's warmer,

1132
01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:50.319
it's definitely warmer. Yeah. I
did like that we had that we

1133
01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:54.239
had to cut the pre cops pregnant
life sitting out there in the freezing called

1134
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.600
in Canton. I did like that. If if the other league did done

1135
01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:01.079
someone someone would be very vocal about, you know, Danny Garcia hating women.

1136
01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:03.039
Yeah, well this is like this
is kind of my thing. Here

1137
01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:05.520
and need a lot of football.
You're right to compare the eighties big money,

1138
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:09.239
like it's not cringe, but like, yeah, they're they're paying.

1139
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:13.479
It's it's the economy of scale and
everything is. It's just it's really different.

1140
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:15.920
But you had independent owners. So
if I bought the show Boats and

1141
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:21.319
I had my budget was eleven million
dollars, I could go to whatever player's

1142
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:25.279
house and be like, I would
give you ten million dollars play for me,

1143
01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:29.439
and you know he'd probably say yeah, because one I am awesome and

1144
01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:33.439
too too, like you know,
I'm giving him ten million dollars like they

1145
01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:38.279
could like all these all those teams
were independently owned. You know, it

1146
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:43.920
was haves and have and have nots
for the league in the eighties. We

1147
01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:46.399
have I think I think we're mixed
niture. I think it's I think we're

1148
01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:48.760
Some are saying we should talk,
you know, some are saying that should

1149
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.760
should Then I think it's good.
All right, we're gonna get out of

1150
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:57.720
here soon. Pat do do my
cel C Dragons? Do we have a

1151
01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:02.319
chance against DC this weekend? I
mean, of course you're in the You're

1152
01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:05.840
in the Northern Division playoffs. You
know what I mean, um, I

1153
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:12.600
mean you can't you can't count out
you can't count out any of these teams

1154
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:16.880
obviously any given Sunday type thing.
Um, I'm slightly this is gonna sound

1155
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:24.520
weird. I'm more intrigued to see
the Renegades Roughnecks game because I want to

1156
01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:30.680
see the Louis Perez offense in full
force and obviously Brandon starting. But I

1157
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:32.520
might not. I don't want to
say turn that game off, like it'll

1158
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:36.199
be odd, but I might tune
out of that game from like from like

1159
01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:41.520
an actually watching it after the first
quarter to where the C Dragons game,

1160
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.159
I'm gonna be like in depth the
whole time, like I'm you know,

1161
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:49.279
just just because it's you know,
there's a little bit of probably not really

1162
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:54.159
on my end, but the league's
end animosity towards the C Dragons right now,

1163
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:58.000
like the Defenders obviously a groom with
the crop, but you know,

1164
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:00.960
we know that it's gonna be sold
out, and you know, how's Tayama

1165
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:05.680
gonna do, Like you know,
like they just released Requi Armstead, their

1166
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:10.960
backup running back. So I'm very
curious to see what's going on with that.

1167
01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:15.359
I mean, Denuci's hitting his stride. Uh, you know, Abram

1168
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.880
Smith has like he I think in
week eight he was at seven hundred and

1169
01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:25.279
seventeen yard seventeen yards. I think
he finished the league the year and like

1170
01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:29.439
you know, seven to sixty or
something, still the leading rusher of the

1171
01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:31.840
league, but like he had three
opportunities, you know, kind of average

1172
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:36.000
one hundred yards a game and go
for a thousand. So very curious to

1173
01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:40.600
see what they got going on.
They've expanded Dieri King's role a little bit,

1174
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:45.800
um so that's kind of cool.
But are they going to ride and

1175
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:47.960
die with Tamo? Yeah? I
think I think yeah, I think they

1176
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:51.079
go back to Tamoo. I think
that that. Yeah, I mean you

1177
01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:56.840
have to And and the gentleman Benjamin
Terrek put it up as well, it's

1178
01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:00.199
like it's really hard to it's really
hard to be the team three times in

1179
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.760
a row. Like that's that's that's
the comment right there for me, Like

1180
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:09.159
you you know, yeah, it's
it's like eventually, you know, and

1181
01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:12.960
I was talking to someone like about
that during during the year. It's like,

1182
01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:15.920
yeah, you want to lose that
second game like in the season,

1183
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.039
because you know, if you're gonna
play them in the in the playoffs.

1184
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:23.560
You want to see what you did
wrong and everything like that. So that's

1185
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.960
my opinion. It might not be
popular, but then like what do you

1186
01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:30.359
get better at? You know,
you learn more from a loss than you

1187
01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.880
do from a win. Well,
we're gonna get out of here. I

1188
01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:36.800
appreciate Pat spending over the hour today
here on here, I appreciate it.

1189
01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:42.239
I will be in DC for the
championship game. I'm flying in Saturday.

1190
01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:45.399
If yeah, I'm staying near the
stadium, so if people are around,

1191
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:47.279
or we can hang out Sunday whatever, but hit me up on Twitter.

1192
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:50.319
I'll be I'll be sitting in the
bar so we're drinking, probably watching the

1193
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:55.279
watching the Saturday night game, and
then um, yeah I should be in.

1194
01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:57.680
That should be good to be able
to watch the Saturday Saturday night game

1195
01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.800
and they'd be there for Sunday.
So stay hi at Pat. You know,

1196
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:03.359
obviously check out Pat's YouTube. Pat, you know, analyze and educate

1197
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:06.920
just a lot more like real football
talk. I mean, I think we

1198
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:10.439
always do a little bit more of
the business of football on here in Pat.

1199
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.119
Anything else you want to say about
your YouTube channel. Now I'm doing

1200
01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:16.880
my quarterback rankings. That's kind of
my big thing. I have some interviews

1201
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:21.439
that I'm doing as well, um, you know, and I did an

1202
01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:28.920
interview with Clint Sig of the Gamblers, Mike Glass of the of the excuse

1203
01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:31.880
me of the Alouettes, and then
Terry Myrick of the Panthers. Um.

1204
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:36.479
I got some guests lined up for
after the season. Um, you know,

1205
01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:40.159
nothing, nothing, you know.
My My thing is is I like

1206
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:44.760
to be in a person, which
person with them, So you know that's

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kind of my thing, you know, pop his in in and then just

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kind of go with these guys,
you know, because obviously I'm sponsored by

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Zinn. But yeah, you know, I got some interviews coming up,

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quarterback rankings coming out tomorrow for the
USFL and xfl um and then you can

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find me on fl QB talk,
which is ironic. At this point,

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you might need a new handle,
Pat, You might need a new handle

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at this point, I do,
honestly, I don't know how to change

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it. It just changed it to
like bearded path or something. I think

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you would get. I think you
get a lot more attraction if it was.

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I think you should change your handle
at some point. Yeah, I

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mean I think I need to.
I don't know. We can we can

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make a pole and uh we can
make a pole and see it get you

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know, uh hijacked. But uh
yeah, I mean NFL QUB talk as

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of today and uh you know,
analyze and educate for the YouTube. So

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you know, as always read,
thank you for having me come on the

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show. You know, Andy is
obviously doing God's work out there. Yeah,

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I guess I didn't preface out off
the top. I'm so sorry Andy

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traveling. I'm that horrible. I
was too tired this morning. I was

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very tired after we had many reindeers
yesterday at the game. But Andy,

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my partner in crime for our show, I feel so terrible. Now I

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have a show with that. Andy, my partner in crime, is traveling.

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Andy, I think was doing some
basketball parties down in Arizona and now

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is headed to Japan. Andy will
be back for the championship game. We

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will be live in San Antonio.
Still figure out the location for that,

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but we will be doing that.
Make sure you like and subscribe. Hit

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the like button on this given the
way at this point two tickets maybe to

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the USFL Championship game. Didn't quite
hit the thirty five hundred in the XFL

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season, but whenever that comes about, you'll get two tickets of your choice,

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so appreciate everyone's support. With that, we will get out of here.

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And yeah, it should be a
good games next weekend, so we'll

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see you guys. SIMP