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Today I bring you a different episode, not only for the duration that you

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have already seen that it is a
little longer than usual, for the guest

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that I will now present to you, that you have also been able to

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guess by the title of the episode, but because I will cannibalize a little

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bit, its own podcast, its
own podcast format. I' ll invite

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you in. We welcome you to
the other side of the microphone. On

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the other side of the microphone,
a project by Jorge Marín Nieto in which

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you will find your daily ration of
metapodcasting, casting with news, events,

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tools or episodes of opinion in just
ten minutes. Ten minutes, ten minutes.

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Today I want to welcome every listener
who has passed across the microphone in

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this episode nine hundred and forty-
four to know one more aspect of the

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podcasting that surrounds me. I am
Jorge Marín and in this podcast I usually

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talk about news, events, curiosities, tools, tips and a long,

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etcetera. All me in small doses
of ten to fifteen minutes. But not

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today is going to be a little
longer. This time, besides that the

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episode, as I said, is
going to be longer than usual and you

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may notice the sound somewhat different,
as I have abandoned my usual study.

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I have come to Madrid to record
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Night Madrid with Seu, the creator
of the podcast. We are waiting for

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a café that I am right now
in front of and with which I will

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talk about his project, his journey
as an entrepreneur of his facet as a

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podcast producer and also, of course, of his podcasting, which you already

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know is the niche of this metapodcast
and what has united us or better said,

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will unite us next May 10th in
the third edition of pot Nay Madrid,

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of this two thousand twenty- four
in the Artistic Metropol of Madrid,

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on the street of the cicarrieras.
Number six, from about eight and a

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half in the afternoon. Well,
we' re not going to join a

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little bit sooner, because we have
to prepare everything. Well, you know

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how this is going, because I
hope it' s not the first prepotni

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and Madrid episode you hear Seu listening
to today you' re going to perment

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me, that you' re going
to allow me to forgive myself for changing

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the name of your podcast a little
bit, since we' ve met for

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coffee. We' re already on
it. We' ve already taken something

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and in passing so that, taking
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you can go over to the other
side of the microphone and tell us a

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little more about yourself. Welcome.
Thank you very much, Jorge. It

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' s a pleasure for me to
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always a plus. Yes, yes, and I don' t know where

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we started, because I wanted to
ask you how you heard about the event

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pot de and Madrid, because if
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' t remember. I don'
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on Instagram or if we have it. We probably have people in common,

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because in fact, since we'
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we' ve found that we have
a lot of people in common and

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maybe I saw it in some of
them. I don' t remember,

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but I know that when I saw
him and I found out that he was

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active. I thought it was a
good opportunity to meet for a coffee and

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for me as a podcaster, and
I got in the car. In about

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thirty seconds I got the mail and
said who signed up if you didn'

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t ask me anything. He hasn' t asked me any questions or anything,

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and I' ve already had to
investigate. Drop the lyre. You

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said that we have people in common
and we have many things in common because

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of the little we have talked about, we have entrepreneurs from the two of

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us recently, a lot of podcasting
and a lot of podcasting of what we

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will now talk about and precisely wanted
to start there. How did you get

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to podcasting, not as a creator, but as a podcast listener, as

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I came from the hand of Cristina
Mitre and later Alex Fidalgo and after Enrix

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Sánchez and Christina Mitre. He hooked
me in a brutal way because his way

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of communicating, his naturalness, his
professionalism, I love how he communicates and

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I have always liked to talk since
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working on TV, on the radio, on big stages and in fact,

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as a child I read the mass
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best moment of the course. You
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fio nun school and I don'
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much harder and now I' m
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and I don' t know.
It was an idea that started to

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get into my head and I was
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still and suddenly, because one day
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t have any kind of training about
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I was working and managing in a
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and in the pandemic I bit my
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experiment in the pandemic. I don' t know, if we have time

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all you want you' ll see
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I know you' ll take this
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He did an experiment in the pandemic
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the halaos of all groups, the
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was always aware that everyone was well, the one who always accompanies when a

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person is sick. It was always
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dynamizing of parties and events. They
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celebrations at City Hall and then I
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pandemic, practically nobody had asked me
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I said, I' m going
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not to communicate with anyone, and
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The result of the experiment was,
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because very few people were interested in
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was enlightening, because you realize the
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generated a lot of free time.
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my podcast. Then I trained as
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that has come. After leaving my
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of work and it' s amazing
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yourself, you can change your world, which is my case. For example,

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if the pandemic, many of us
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put a mirror in front of us
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than this routine you were doing so
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so far maybe you have to devote
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have to worry about something else.
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it didn' t give us life
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hear and if I think a little
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now. I am a caring person
par excellence. I love people, I

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love sharing moments like this. In
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from those moments of complicity and intimacy, of sharing, of laughing, of

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crying from what arises. I love
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bad times, and I' m
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special thing that you can enjoy travel, give away experiences and in the pandemic

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I realized that all that energy I
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people, what I was doing was
exhausting myself. Then there was no energy

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left for me. And it was
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s say my way of relating to
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and some people have told me that
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don' t come here, but
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I made that decision? No more
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events, and I made that decision
consciously. And what he brought me is

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very big, yes, yes and
listen and fruitful, because I know that

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you have already dedicated to yourself what
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fact, you are here in Madrid
to give some formation. No, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no. Well,

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it' s been ten years and
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It was not two years ago that
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and a year and a half that
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I had been in a company for
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of absence because it seemed to me
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' t grow anymore because I didn' t have more hours to work with

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clients and felt the need to try. I talked to my husband, who

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is my life partner and a great
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this episode gives you to hear,
to listen to him how you presume yes,

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yes, he knows, because I
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a great life partner, because then
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my girlfriend so she can brag about
me not that. I' m not

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sure if protus is something we do
a lot of talking about. Okay,

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but when I wasn' t a
person ahead, well, because we did

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accounting and we came to the economic
conclusion that for a year I could dedicate

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myself to my project, which is
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it was a project without our economy
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I, who' s been working
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a very young mother and I'
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I was seventeen years old, because
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year I was going to give it
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I make from the first month,
but I beat billing records almost a month

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after another, having months of five
zero euros of eight zero euros that were

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unthinkable to me. I didn'
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money myself. Then it is another
barrier, another mental limit that I have

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broken during my venture and this year
one of the projects that makes me most

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excited for the moment is a formation
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in Torrejón de Ardoz that we are
creating a podcast. The second graders of

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that and some teachers are creating the
school podcast. We have several face-

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to- face sessions, several videoconference
sessions and the intention is that next year,

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students who are trained this year can
pass on their knowledge to the following

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courses and that it is like a
chain a legacy and an activity that extends

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beyond this year. Well, if
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ll call you, too. In
fact, one of the students proposed to

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make a podcast video and I told
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to the director and next year we
proposed a video podcast without problems. Well,

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that' s what it has to
be. At the moment, it

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' s been a mind- blowing
experience because kids keep surprising me. They

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' re digital natives. I'
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The difference is abysmal. Totally.
They' re boys and girls, well

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boys because they' re teenagers and
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They don' t like it.
Very awake, very collaborative and very

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communicative. One of them, in
addition, made some announcements that caught my

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attention so young and is I have
many exciting projects this year. But this

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is definitely how they tell me six
months ago. And he wouldn' t

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see me. I mean, I
wouldn' t believe it. It seems

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a lie to me that we often
talk about it before we turn on the

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recorder, as we often put barriers
on ourselves. And no, not me,

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me for that? Or not me? Don' t you? Don

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' t you? No, yeah? You? Yeah? You? Yeah,

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and look? Now look back and
look at these three years. Well,

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four. We' ve been talking
two thousand twenty- four since the

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pandemic. Now what you' ve
got, what you' re saying to

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me has also happened to me the
first few months that all that billing said.

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Then maybe it' s benefits or
not, but all that billing has

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gone through me because I' m
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a company behind me, I don' t have a big half- cart.

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I have not been able to achieve
all that, but many times we

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have to challenge ourselves or break a
barrier to ourselves. You' ve got

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almost fifty chapters already. You'
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this started by doing the podcast we
give for a coffee. Yeah, I

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mean, first it was doing the
podcast and then you decided to start and

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spend the time. Yeah, me, with the podcast, I found out

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there were a lot of professions online. I' ve been wanting to change

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for quite a few years, because
I have a restless mind. I like

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to face challenges, I like to
meet cities, new people, new people.

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I didn' t always move through
the same areas and the same environments,

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and my life was a little bit
like that. It wasn' t

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office work from nine to two and
a half. Then my family, my

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children. I always did some sports, because for many years I did ballroom

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dances another season, because I went
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Then I was always looking for something
that would complement me and cover that need

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to learn and face unknown things.
And the podcast, it was certainly a

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big challenge because I had no idea
how to record, I had no idea

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of microphones, I knew nothing about
anything. I spent a lot of time

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on him. Besides, I was
self- taught. No, you didn

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' t itch me to sign up
for a course or contact a person like

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it was a hobby, because I
started like this with YouTube tutorials and but

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many times the fact of cheering yourself
up and discovering self- didactically is better,

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because you see everything wrong. You
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you take many steps, but little
by little, little by little, and

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in the end, as you learn
it, you research yourself more you form

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more than you do then maybe you
can complement not with a course, but

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if you' re the one who' s interested in learning that something,

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you learn it Jun at least to
me works that way. I, when

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I train myself learn it maybe,
slower. But yes, yes, I

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am the living proof of that.
I started recording with my daughter' s

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WII karaoke microphone. They' re
not bad microphones. That, in fact,

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is the first I know that I
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test I did at the Torrejón Institute, which in the first face- to

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- face session I brought them all
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some that I had in the middle
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surrounded them with those that I tabo
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very much. How the karaok sounded, which is curious. Well, then,

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where we were going. I started
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on foot worth continuing to grow.
I discovered a lot of digital professions as

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a parallel universe that I didn'
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course of being older, because I
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- three years. I' m
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assistant was the same thing, but
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I was allowed to work from my
home, which was something I really

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wanted. Working from my house in
silence, without the phone ringing continuously,

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without being interrupted asking for things continuously. It was something I dreamed of,

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I had been dreaming for years and
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Now, my son is twelve years
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is a little older to live in
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long periods, depending on my possibilities
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allowed me to do that. Then
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m pretty intense and I get pretty
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how to get in a bit or
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get involved, because I started training
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client. In May I was already
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I applied for leave of absence.
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of the two thousand twenty- one, I began training in February of the

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two thousand twenty- two and in
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I took leave of absence. I' m still working with that client.

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Yeah, I' m still working
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and her company is called Zero Foolish
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We have a team of ten eleven
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together. We' ve both grown
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s good. She' s a
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reference for me, she' s
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her a lot, I' ve
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on her to see. As you
presume men, you know better. I

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really liked the phrase we grew up
together, because she will have grown logically

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you too. But we' ve
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H Schons one team and the two
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And that you can tell, you
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can tell from the family, and
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It' s something that keeps surprising
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black and white, with a lot
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and when I decided to buy the
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twenty- three years doing it is
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not doing the same thing online.
You need to learn other tools, other

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ways to communicate with your customers.
You have to learn to sell yourself to

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reach customers, but you can do
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company was well valued, they were
happy with my work. In fact,

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it was a shock to them when
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they never contemplated that scenario and they
were all my fears of not being able,

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of not finding customers, of not
earning enough to maintain the standard of

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living that my family had. To
refusing everyone to say no to me,

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to being told where you' re
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besides, many times I felt misunderstood
because I had a job that from outside

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was the dream of many people,
that was what I had studied. I

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was very close to my house,
I had a very good schedule, I

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had a very good salary, you
paid extra vacation that you have made so

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much less I had ras you can
give it to yourself. Yes, if

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I have projects that I do as
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my extra pay. No, and

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then many times I' ve felt
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change jobs, people would tell me
but what you want. You know what

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else you want? If you have
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well, it' s true that
it was very good work, but it

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wasn' t the job I needed. He became very happy for many years,

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he was the breadwinner of my family
for many years. I will be

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eternally grateful to that company, my
bosses, my colleagues, but I felt

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that it was no longer my place, that I had to get out of

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there. And now there' s
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which is that I live in colors
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white, and I think it perfectly
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My undertaking seems to me to be
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have, that I have had,
almost everyone has. I think he decides

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to undertake or maybe not to undertake, but he does look a little out

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the window maybe he is in a
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say, and just by looking out, it says where I' m going

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or how well I' m here, this is security. But I think

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that in the end they are barriers, so we said before, barriers that

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we put to ourselves and that if
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comes, then another comes, then
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not mean that we have to undertake. Be easy and don' t.

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It' s not and it'
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to see that I' ve been
a year and a month, but you

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take a little advantage of me.
But what you say, those same fears,

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I have, I have, I
will, but I also have many

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other joys that I want you to
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world of colors has been, that
two years you' ve been living in

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colors. Well, last year,
in October, I recorded a live podcast

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with an audience in the auditorium of
the city where I live. I heard.

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I heard two chapters that I recorded, because the idea was to record

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just one and make a table before
the podcast with three podcasters friends and in

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the end it was so nice what
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that I asked them yesterday on the
march if it was okay for it to

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be an episode of the podcast.
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Son Menendez and Paula Moras, who
are your traveling companions sending a greeting to

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Leo because he was also here as
a guest. Podcasting also changed his life

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We could hear his story in the
seven hundredth episode and it was the person

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that put us. I' m
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it was an indirect contact, because
he told me about your episode. I

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think that' s when I did
the talk at Mambler and then chance of

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life, you contacted me for the
pontneymads so I read. In the end

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an Argentine had to come from Argentina
Spain to put us in common, being

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so close to quotation marks. I
just realized that I met you at that

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Manmbler talk and it was you who
called me a day later. It may

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not be that he called me a
person, a Galician woman, the next

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day, because at the end of
that talk and I wanted to ask you

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because I didn' t know if
it was you in that talk, at

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the end of the talk. I
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context card, and the next day
he calls me someone hello, me,

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hello, tell me no, no, tell me, you, I

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don' t. The one you
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not like I took your contact yesterday
from a talk you gave and I didn

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' t know he should have called
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maybe I' ll contact you well
for what might come up and I thought

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it was you, because I know
you' re a Galician person, a

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Galician woman. I didn' t, I didn' t, well yeah,

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I met you there and look.
I just remembered, because I read

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it was a discovery for me.
He is an amazing person and when he

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came to the event, I invited
him and he pointed to the minute one

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was surprised by the organization, the
quality of the audio, how well we

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had mounted him that it was noticed
that the details were very pampered, which

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is something that characterizes me. I
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make the difference. And then we
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ll meet at the end of the
recordings and have a drink. And Angel

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Carracero also stayed, who was the
brand- new protagonist of episode forty and

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Leo and Paula of episode forty-
one. There they told their story and

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their journey in this world and,
indeed, Leo changed his life and Paula

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also. So, if you want
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interesting and Leo' s a wonderful, wonderful man who gives it to you.

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Everything. He got half the audience. Everyone was caught up in his

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way of communicating, in his way
of talking about how he was with each

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and every one of them, and
he' s a great communicator and a

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better person. I' m delighted
to have known him the truth and well,

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since we' re here bringing out
miseries. That project had me absorbed

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all last year because it was something
I wanted to do, but I was

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so scared that I went doing bits
and pieces. No. Then I said

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I want to do this, what
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Then I was scheduling in my will
to schedule every task. Imagine calling the

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city council to book the living room, contacting a leo to see if he

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wants to come and talk to Angel. I had an interview with Angel a

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year before I did it, but
well, because of a personal problem he

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had and because he has a very
tight schedule. I was afraid to call

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him we were concrete and he was
super friendly and he lent himself to everything,

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because notice how afraid he was that
he was late, almost a year

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to prepare it and then he was
moving another barrier to call him. Then

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you realize that he is a very
nice person, very normal, but you

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have that barrier that you put yourself
on that he and had the interview closed

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because he had already told me through
a friend that he was going to come

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then. Every task, every day
was a challenge, because maybe it was

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a phone call or it was sending
an email. But it was to believe

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in me that I was able to
do something like that, that I could

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interest people. And in the end, my idea was to get on a

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stage. I didn' t care
if there were ten, twenty or a

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hundred but I wanted to do it
live, live with the audience. I

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wanted to live that experience and I
wanted to bring podcasting there to my village,

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to the place where I live.
So I' ve been through a

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lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of fear management that didn

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' t have any kind of difficulty, like ordering some programs in the printing

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press or managing the cattering reservation that
good my friend Luis took on in the

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cafeteria. Everything scared me, because
it wasn' t that call or that

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management. It was all that implied. So, the day it came in

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that I thought I was going to
be super nervous, because I' m

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a pretty nervous person and it seems
pretty anxious. When I went in the

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morning with the guys at the sound
company and started doing the tests, they

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told me your speech, your speech? And I said, well, I

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' m gonna do it as a
rehearsal and I felt good. There'

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s a phrase I' m saying
but you can say tacos. Yeah,

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well, I already felt the whore
loves up there on stage. It'

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s a hard feeling to describe,
but as a wonder woman, whatever,

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it' s a feeling that repeats
every time I get on a stage and

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I love it because it connects me
with myself, with my ability to communicate

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and show the world who I am
and to share it with other people,

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which is the most important thing.
So, well, my great success or

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my great satisfaction last year was that
live podcast with audience. Well, I

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hope this year will be the 10th
of May, the 10th of May appointment

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at the artist and metropol te.
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high. It' s a little
step, but I hope you feel at

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home and, above all, enjoy
it. This I tell to all those

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who come to the Sponda of Madrid
that you come to micropost, that you

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come here I take care of everything
else I put you even part of the

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audience, not everything, but that
you come to enjoy that everything is already

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assembled. It' s all you
don' t worry about some detail you

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want to put you warning me as
someone we' ve talked about already,

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but you come and enjoy that it' s a night hearing for me it

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' s a night podcasting, but
for you it' s a night of

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your podcast that it seems that it
doesn' t and I encourage many people,

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as you have done to encourage them
to mount events like this, which

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is not difficult. We put a
barrier, because we once again to the

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same subject as before, both you
who have already done it, and Javi

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Fernández of how your move came that
told you before that a crofaunding is being

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made to do it his way.
There, in Asturias there are crowds,

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crowds of characters or have a podcast
project and take him out on the street

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or take him out to a local. It' s not hard to get

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on and as you say doing a
check- up and little by little check

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- che che che and when the
day comes you get over it and you

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say or why I haven' t
done this before, because it' s

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very satisfying for yourself to do something
really costs us a lot, but when

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it already hatches, you finally say
wow at last. I' m sure

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May Day is going to be a
very special day. I published the first

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episode of my podcast on my birthday, May 5, I gave it to

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myself. Then I decided to give
it to me on my birthday, which

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is my favorite day of the year. I' m a freak from my

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birthday and every year I do a
special thing. The first year my friend

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Amarga interviewed me. She put me
across the microphone and it was she who

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wisely conducted the podcast. We recorded
it in person at his house in Barcelona

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and it was a super beautiful experience, because I had several surprises from friends

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of the communes prepared and I have
to say that thanks to my friends,

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this podcast came out, because I
was very afraid of who will want to

416
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:45,839
come, to talk to me.
You know, I mean, who'

417
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,119
s gonna want to sit down?
And tell me her stuff and my friends

418
00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:52,839
started telling me I' m going, I' m going, I'

419
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,319
m going, and the first beautiful
protagonists of the first episodes are all friends

420
00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:00,359
of mine. Then, my gratitude
to all of them for giving me a

421
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,119
push and a strength. And today
it' s weird the week I don

422
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,200
' t get a message for instagram
from someone who wants to come to my

423
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,079
podcast. So the not- the- writer turn of life has been like

424
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,359
quite surprising. And, besides,
this is another thing that I wanted to

425
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:25,480
ask you how you choose your guests, because it seems to me that guests

426
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:30,799
have passed from completely different and niche
areas that I say how you select it,

427
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:37,319
because recently you have had a man
who matures wines under the sea that

428
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:42,440
I have stayed and then another girl
who I think is the last girl as

429
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:48,319
a woman or lady who has raised
well, has educated her children at home

430
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,200
how you choose or all volunteer or
what you have to do when you appear

431
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,559
before you get into that I wanted
to do a recognition to my daughter.

432
00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:02,319
I have a question about that chapter
too. The second anniversary of the podcast

433
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,200
I celebrated recording an episode with my
daughter, because when I recorded the first

434
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,119
year, she told me mom,
I would have loved to do it myself

435
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,039
and I said so don' t
worry that next year we do it and

436
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,000
well she came up with a lot, a lot and I' m very

437
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,160
grateful. It was a super special
moment. We recorded together, of course,

438
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,039
we lived together and it was super
pretty. If it' s the

439
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,400
online kill- it- it-
it- it- it- it-

440
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it- it- it- it- it- it- it- it

441
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,400
- it- it- it-
it- it- it- it-

442
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,400
it- it- it- it- it- it- it- it

443
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,400
- it- it- it-
it- it- it- it-

444
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,400
it- it- it- it- it- it- it- it

445
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,400
- it- it- it-
it- it- it- it-

446
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,400
it- it- it- it- it- it- it- it.

447
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:30,319
And now, well, now the
special episode of the third anniversary will

448
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:36,960
be the one we recorded in the
spond nights I wanted to clarify it before

449
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:37,960
my birthday is the 5th of May. The episode is not going to come

450
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,400
out on May 5, because we
will record it on May 10, but

451
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,519
well it will be to live it
as close as possible of your birthday that

452
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:49,920
the direct comes, because it will
be like another gift that I am going

453
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:59,400
to make myself for my birthday,
like every anniversary of podcast and answering your

454
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:03,759
question, the guests basically respond to
my mental restlessness. People I' m

455
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:12,519
interested in, whom I know by
different means, sometimes unsuspected and I'

456
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:17,640
ve lost the shame I had of
inviting people to the podcast. It is

457
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,200
true that many people ask me to
come and I cannot attend to all the

458
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,559
requests I have. I' d
like to, but I have three business

459
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:30,680
tracks to attend right now and I' d love to publish a podcast weekly,

460
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,880
but it' s not viable with
a life I have and I prefer

461
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:41,599
not to do it wrong and not
to give it that respect that the person

462
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,279
who stands on the other side of
my microphone deserves, then I publish that

463
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:49,519
fortnightly or monthly, as I can
and I don' t break my head

464
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:52,400
with that subject anymore. That'
s what I can do now. It

465
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,200
' s 100% of what I
can give and when the other time comes,

466
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:57,119
if I can do it another way, then it' ll come.

467
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,559
But at the moment it' s
not like that. And basically that,

468
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,920
because with Borja, the one in
the underwater cellar, I gave Yolanda Cambra

469
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,519
that she is a lover of wine
and the sea. I gave him a

470
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,640
bottle aged under the sea for Christmas
and well he already published it in instagram.

471
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,759
The boy thanked me because she put
it all in saying that she had

472
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:20,720
given it to him. Me.
The boy thanked me. I told him

473
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:22,680
your project freaks me out. We
started talking. I told Jor to come

474
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:27,960
to the podcast. The world needs
to know this and it' s amazing

475
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:35,640
because this company has come out in
National Geographic, in international documentaries and I

476
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,799
didn' t know it, and
no one in my environment that you talked

477
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:40,640
to knew her. Then good to
give voice to this kind of business.

478
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:45,559
I think it' s very interesting. And besides that Borja is a man

479
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:53,000
' s love, he was charming
and a little bit like that and Violeta

480
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:57,240
was a Yolanda Cambra client. We
met there at a face- to-

481
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,640
face event that made yolanda for his
clients. And it' s not a

482
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,400
thing that woke me up very curious
because I, as a frustrated student,

483
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:09,519
I suffered a lot at school because
well, well, because it was a

484
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,920
little different from the rest and I
might have other abilities and well, I

485
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,599
didn' t feel like I didn' t fit in very well and with

486
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,559
my children. I have lived it
with the two who have high abilities and

487
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,559
have spent complicated moments also at school
and I recognize that many times it has

488
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:30,200
crossed my mind bring them to me
home and avoid that problem. But I

489
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,319
' ve never dared, I haven' t had the courage to do it

490
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,079
with most go and late is already
working, but with the little one,

491
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,039
because because of the little I know
her say you have to boast also of

492
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,279
daughter. How little I heard in
this episode. Yes, yes, my

493
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:52,079
daughter is a lovely woman and has
been able to follow her instincts, her

494
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,240
desires and create a life her measure. And I think it has a lot

495
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,799
of value, because many times society
is shouting what you have to do,

496
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,279
how you have to do it,
and when you don' t have to

497
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:05,119
do it. And she' s
been able to stay true to herself and

498
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,280
get into a career like she'
s fine arts deposed by many people,

499
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:14,280
but she felt it inside and she
did. And, well, I'

500
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,079
m very proud of her, more
so right now than you were saying,

501
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:22,119
because society is yelling at you.
Society right now our time is not that

502
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,480
you yell, that imposes you,
it seems a lie that these puddles I

503
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:30,960
' m touching the phone now force
us to do in a way to follow

504
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:36,039
some guidelines, that we won'
t see that each person can choose his

505
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:40,559
way, each person can have his/ her I don' t know how

506
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:43,239
to say it, his/ her
decisions and be completely respectable. And besides,

507
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,719
he must be encouraged to do so. People are extraordinary. There is

508
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,320
one sentence that I repeat quite a
lot and that is that we all have

509
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,480
a podcast, or ten podcasts,
because we all have something that makes us

510
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,519
special. I, for example,
call myself Mary Joseph, but everyone calls

511
00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:00,559
me seu behind that name or a
story to tell it. Yeah, I

512
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:06,920
love to tell. Besides, uh, I have three brothers. My older

513
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,159
sister, Marta, is going to
kill me for this, but she'

514
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,599
s my sister who endures and is
older. Then comes my brother Caesar,

515
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,960
who takes me fifteen months if he
is the one who gave me this name,

516
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,400
for I am there and then I
have a little brother named Luke.

517
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,440
He' s 13 years old,
he' s a lot smaller than me.

518
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,320
Then my brother and I took fifteen
months and children. We were always

519
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,960
together. In fact, I started
in kindergarten because I missed him and I

520
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:31,719
was always very much with him,
with your friends and well, we had

521
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:37,280
a super pretty little relationship and he
started calling me Seuca Claria. He was

522
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,679
15 months old, he didn'
t speak well, and that' s

523
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:44,320
the typical thing he does. Many
thanks to the parents and stayed with Seuca.

524
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,719
He passed to Seu and my parents
never called me Maria José, well

525
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,159
my father, sometimes if he'
s a little angry, but they call

526
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:54,000
me Seuca seus euquiña. I'
m Galician. You have already realized these

527
00:35:54,079 --> 00:36:00,039
heights and for many years, because
it was Maria Jossa at work and in

528
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:05,400
such more official environments, and when
I decided to start, I also started

529
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,679
out there, not like Maria José, virtual assistant, but it came to

530
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,159
a point that I felt that that
did not represent me and then I decided

531
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:13,400
to give it a turn. In
fact, my website is called Meseu,

532
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,920
which I think is a statement of
intent They don' t see for curaseo

533
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,280
if not the seo It doesn'
t matter if you have to call me

534
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,880
seu call mesups. That is the
story of my name and, as I

535
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,719
was saying, we all carry anecdotes, stories, moments of overcoming, a

536
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:36,559
lot of circumstances that have led us
to be as we are and I like

537
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:39,199
to know those parts that sometimes maybe
we hide a little, because I think

538
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,159
they are the ones that make us
more special. I' m remembering an

539
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,159
episode now, I think it'
s thirty- three, but I'

540
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:55,559
m not sure the number I recorded
with a guy who lost much of the

541
00:36:55,639 --> 00:37:00,119
hearing and an important part of the
vision is called Felipe. His website is

542
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:06,280
called with two balls and a cane
also fatty out, because he is dedicated

543
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,679
to traveling the world. He loved
to travel before having these health problems and

544
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:15,920
he still loves to travel and continues
to travel, despite the difficulties he has.

545
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,480
And he doesn' t travel to
the Canary Islands. Hey, there

546
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:23,159
' s a bunch of trips that
you' re hallucinating to Colombia, to

547
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,239
Asia, that is, some things
that I' m saying, man,

548
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,599
you put a value on that the
name of your project goes to his hair.

549
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:34,199
No, and in addition, it
records documentaries of how disability is lived

550
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,440
in different countries of the world,
because in Spain, in that sense we

551
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,440
are quite privileged. The work of
the eleven is noticed a lot and he

552
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:46,199
has felt accompanied and lives alone.
And I was a guy who when I

553
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,480
met him because I heard him on
a podcast, he freaked me out because

554
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,039
I say I need to know this
man more and talk to him. He

555
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:58,840
is a charming man who handles himself
with new technologies, travels, edits his

556
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,480
videos. It' s lovely and
good A channel opened in the podcast.

557
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:07,719
He told the whole process, how
it had been, how he had acquired

558
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,960
disability, how he had had to
adapt to that life. And when in

559
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,760
the end you talk about those things
that have marked you or that you'

560
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,599
re passionate about making shines and I
love to see people when they shine and

561
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:24,159
I love to be a facilitator for
those people to shine and that they have

562
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,920
that podcast left. For me,
podcast is a legacy that I am a

563
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,760
sonorous legacy that I am leaving to
my children in future generations. Maybe it

564
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,280
' s a bit ostentatious of me
to say it like that, because not

565
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,800
because I would have liked, for
example, to record with my father that

566
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,960
he' s gone and I would
have been very upset to have, because

567
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,760
this I commented on in an episode
doesn' t do. I don'

568
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,239
t know how much I happened to
cross life in a video they had shot

569
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,199
where he appeared. And it is
true that in photographs, even videos,

570
00:38:55,639 --> 00:39:00,719
we are more used to seeing people
who are no longer there, but listening

571
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,400
to them. No And if I
just got goose bumps, listen to him

572
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,280
say three words in that video.
It was like my father' s voice

573
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,480
if I had an episode, not
of three words, but of an hour

574
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:19,000
talking to him. It' s
a legacy and more if they have fifty

575
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:22,159
- so many episodes, as is
your case now. Imagine leaving a legacy

576
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:28,480
of hundreds of chapters because you forget
when people are gone, because we all

577
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:32,199
die. It' s something we
sometimes forget. But it happens every day

578
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,360
all over the world. It blurs
the image, blurs its voice and photos.

579
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,039
We usually have and videos. Now
that we all have a smartphone,

580
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,840
we can have, but this voice
so recorded with a good quality micro and

581
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,239
I have archived on my website all
the podcasts I do. Forgive me in

582
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,800
your one is that this thing I
want to do in your chapter puts a

583
00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:00,400
latte on me a coke. Please, thank you. It just had to

584
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:06,280
be done. It had to be
done in this episode, because I have

585
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,079
compiled on my website all the episodes
I do on my podcast and all those

586
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:14,280
who invite me, because it is
like my story, my evolution. You

587
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,280
can see all the podcasts I'
ve gone to, the one I recorded

588
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,639
on the first anniversary, the one
I recorded on the second, the ones

589
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:21,639
I' ve been invited to.
My evolution as an entrepreneur, my evolution

590
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,119
as a podcaster, as a person
is fascinating. The human being. It

591
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:29,840
' s fascinating to me. It' s the best thing to live for.

592
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,400
Above all, listening to you tell
yourself, because this is the same

593
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,280
thing if you probably put yourself on
now that this is something we all hate.

594
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,360
If you start listening to your first
chapter, say oh no that I

595
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,480
don' t like it, but
it' s very nice to go back

596
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,920
to that step three years ago in
your case, and say look where I

597
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:52,280
was and look where I am now, because I must be a rare sight

598
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,440
because I like to look back because
I' m or. Yeah, but

599
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:58,960
listen to you Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I' m so grateful to

600
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:01,480
the sout of the past Well,
decide why I was scared to death.

601
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:07,280
I' m gonna get excited.
She was scared to death. She felt

602
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:14,199
very small and even in her best
dreams she didn' t think she could

603
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:20,440
get here. Then I have everything
published. The episodes I misrecorded some that

604
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,519
I had to rerecord. I have
everything published and I have a podcast producer

605
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:25,800
who sometimes my husband and tells me
he hears maybe something and I say no.

606
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,039
Don' t look at me That
happens to me No, no,

607
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,800
no, I' m who I
am for episode one, episode two,

608
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,320
episode three, episode four, and, in fact, episode Borja, episode

609
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,639
forty- three. I didn'
t have a very good connection to the

610
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:45,199
Internet and he' s heard some
regular moments and he cuts a word and

611
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,639
I said leave it, I record
it again and I say because I don

612
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:51,039
' t leave it, because this
happens to the veterans, it happens to

613
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:53,119
the beginners. It can happen to
you at any time and is part of

614
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:58,239
the learning, because that day there
was no good Internet connection and it was

615
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,880
not recorded in the episode. But
it' s a super nice episode in

616
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:07,639
which Borja tells us a lot of
very interesting things about his cellar and his

617
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:08,639
story and I don' t care
about my back. On the contrary,

618
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:17,280
I like to look back and gratefully, because even in my best dreams I

619
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,960
would not have thought that I would
be here today. In fact, in

620
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,920
a I don' t know what
to call it, because it' s

621
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:28,599
a podcast that Maria Macias gravels,
uploads it to YouTube. It' s

622
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,199
called a toilet journal and she asked
me if I was the professional I thought

623
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:35,960
I was going to be and my
answer was no, that it was much

624
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,559
better. You know, I didn' t think I was gonna be the

625
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,360
professional I am, and I guess
in the future, because something else I

626
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,559
' ll learn and something else I' ll get better. No, man,

627
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,199
okay, you' ve been here
three years, but how many are

628
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:49,480
ahead of you? Yeah, that' s what you have to say.

629
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,280
Look, I' m going to
tell you one thing I haven' t

630
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:58,159
told anyone I just told Jacqueline bye
She' s the only person I told.

631
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:04,199
In December I was about to close
my podcast What you tell me in

632
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,800
December I was very exhausted because in
two thousand twenty- three I trained as

633
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,800
coach I rode the producer. I
worked a huge amount of hours. I

634
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:17,320
was very little with my family and
well, apart from a personal process that

635
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,039
we are living in the family that
has us a little absorbed, it was,

636
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,639
I arrived exhausted. I had ten
days in bed, I took the

637
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,559
holidays in zero nonsense and I was
ten days sick in bed and I thought

638
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:30,400
it wasn' t worth it,
I' m going to leave everything.

639
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:37,800
I was all January pulling the fridge
off what I had on tape and asking

640
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,159
myself whether to continue or not.
Very tired with a lot of anxiety,

641
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,239
falling asleep for a few hours and
I was about to leave them. The

642
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:52,400
first time it happened to me and
I thought how your dreams could turn into

643
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:58,719
a nightmare, a burden. Not
good. Finally, in February I started

644
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:02,280
working less hours of January I worked
less hours. I also released the coaching

645
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,199
project that I wanted to launch and
then released it a little bit because it

646
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:12,960
didn' t all arrive. I
re- recorded I focused a little more

647
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:19,000
on the guests and I' m
still here. But, well, I

648
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:23,599
had a pretty, pretty big crisis. I was even thinking about going back

649
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:31,199
to work on behalf of others,
with good with a person who has a

650
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:37,039
common project there, and I was
thinking about raising them or going back to

651
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:39,800
the other person' s account because
I couldn' t with anxiety, I

652
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,800
couldn' t with tiredness. I
felt like I didn' t have any

653
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,159
more energy, because this consumes a
lot of energy and I wanted to recover

654
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,320
my free time because I didn'
t have it this first quarter being crazy

655
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,000
with a lot of travel, events
and work. But, well, I

656
00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:01,760
hope in April I' ll get
my rest time back a little bit longer

657
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480
because I' m really running out
of two thousand twenty- three. It

658
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:06,639
' s just that we were talking
at the beginning of the ideal. Or

659
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,760
nice that not everyone is worth,
but this is just as realistic, that

660
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,719
there are more, much more complicated
streaks. Thank you, thank you very

661
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,800
much. Here come our coffees and
coke. Well, now we' ll

662
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,199
talk about the cafes and your podcast, but I didn' t want to

663
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:29,519
let this go There are moments.
I don' t know if bad is

664
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:35,599
the word bad is the word,
but complicated. It is a roller coaster,

665
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,519
both economically and at work, and
in the tired and in the personal.

666
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,920
Like me, there are weeks I
have a little program that is to

667
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,480
check out hechet, like you said
before, and the first check I have

668
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:55,159
every Monday is to check everything I
have this week and programming. And there

669
00:45:55,199 --> 00:46:00,400
are weeks that I see and say
this week gets complicated. There' s

670
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,039
something else coming in that' s
still making it more difficult for me.

671
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:08,159
But there are weeks like this,
for example, that I skipped the check

672
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:13,840
to talk to SEU and call a
coworking session or a place to book us

673
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,920
at a table, which is where
we are now sitting. And this week

674
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:27,239
he started saying I have a lot
of work, but on Wednesday I have

675
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,119
a hole and this is really work
in my case, but it' s

676
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:35,239
a job, a little bit nicer
that I' ve been happy with the

677
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,840
week and the weeks that I'
m complicated with, which I say is

678
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,440
yesterday, for example, I ended
up at midnight editing a few things,

679
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:42,880
but the weeks I say or this
week is complicated. I haven' t

680
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,960
been able to see my family since
I quit work. I take my daughters

681
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,639
and I pick up my daughters every
day, and some father will say fuck

682
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:53,840
what a pain in the ass,
take your daughters to school every day and

683
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,960
pick them up or some mother,
for surely many more mothers than fathers.

684
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,840
But for me that' s something
that I, I couldn' t enjoy

685
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,400
as a kid. For me it' s a luxury that has given me

686
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,760
my job and every time I finish
up to a thousand of work and I

687
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,000
think tomorrow I have to get up
early, but I' m going to

688
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:15,519
start the day taking my daughters to
school and then the day will come very

689
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:15,400
hard or very hard times, like
the ones you say. You N had

690
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:22,440
something like that, not in January, but in November. Luckily, I

691
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:25,920
still have the beginner' s spirits. He' s gonna say well,

692
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,480
this is nothing. Jorge, he' ll be here in bad times or

693
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,000
hard times. But I' m
telling you about before. You' re

694
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,320
not alone, you won' t
be, and those times we' ve

695
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,559
spent all and maybe, the rest
you can close or park it, but

696
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,360
few don' t leave it because
if the podcast has done you so well,

697
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,079
surely if you close it, that
decision tastes very bad. Then you

698
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:52,000
just have to listen to your special
chapters with your friends, with your daughter,

699
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:58,599
to remember that, maybe you don' t have to close it,

700
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,199
but park it, spend your time
leaving it, rest you notice that in

701
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,760
this podcast, being a daily podcast, it is very, very, very

702
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,559
sacrificed and I have to force myself
to stop because I ended up saturated.

703
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,800
I have two hundred chapters a year
and I don' t do one more,

704
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,639
because I know I' m saturated
and I' m looking forward to

705
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:22,920
taking the summer or Easter holidays.
But when that time comes that I say

706
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:27,320
oh come up to September, it
lasts a day or two a day or

707
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,599
two. I already want to re- record, but I have to force

708
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:34,679
myself, so if you need to
stop it or better say pause it,

709
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,760
but don' t abandon it other
projects maybe. Hey, I' m

710
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,480
not in there anymore. But what
the podcast is that a little bit ago

711
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:44,480
give it the time it takes to
relax it and if you need it,

712
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:46,280
it' s better to start another
one. But I think the active podcast,

713
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:51,199
the podcasting to you works very well. Yeah, it literally changes my

714
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:57,480
life. That same word I say
to the listeners in comments every time I

715
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:02,880
say it and it' s one
of the things I like most about my

716
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:09,280
work when I record podcasts, because
that' s the same thing you download

717
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,039
this chapter and that same thing you
just said you put it to yourself when

718
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,920
you think about closing it. Yeah, the thing is, I' m

719
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,760
not afraid to close stages either.
I think it' s one thing we

720
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:23,960
don' t know how to do
and sometimes when things are born and die

721
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:27,519
and maybe it' s time for
them to be over and nothing happens.

722
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:30,719
It' s fine as it is
and I was at that point. I

723
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:35,159
mean, he gave it to me, everything, he changed me as a

724
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:36,599
person and as a professional, but
I can' t do it anymore.

725
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,400
I can' t do it anymore. I' m gonna let him go.

726
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:43,880
Fortunately, I had some fridge and
I was pulling and well, now

727
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:50,519
I have returned with great enthusiasm with
very interesting people and sometimes good happens to

728
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:52,920
all of us, because you have
a bad season, you have a bad

729
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,880
day. I, personally, as
an entrepreneur, am very tired of seeing

730
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,599
these four- hour, winning workers. I do not know how many thousands

731
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:04,320
of euros and men in the go
BORGINI. So whenever I can teach the

732
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,320
other side, I don' t
mean I have a lot of positive things,

733
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,400
but there are also things that are
more negative, just like when you

734
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,079
work for someone else, you have
a lot of positive things, but you

735
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:15,360
have others that are negative. I
mean, in this life it' s

736
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,679
all about choosing and the way you
go you' re gonna have good things

737
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,039
and bad things or less good things, whatever you want to call them.

738
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:30,079
We must accept the most complicated parts
and enjoy the most beneficial ones. But,

739
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,840
well, I just wanted to comment
on it because I' ve never

740
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,039
told it before and I in my
podcasts give all the prominence to the person

741
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:43,360
who comes, although it' s
true that I tell things about myself,

742
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,360
because sometimes it' s like it
comes to the case. But I call

743
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,519
them flaming protagonists for something, because
I want them to shine, to enjoy

744
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,400
that the other person knows her if
she has a book that knows what the

745
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,519
book is about. If you have
something that makes you special, then connect

746
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:59,360
with that special part, then I
retire. I don' t stay in

747
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,000
the background. But today that I
am on the other side of the microphone,

748
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,719
with everything to give us a coffee, because I wanted to share it,

749
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,880
because it is the dark side of
life. It exists and I am

750
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,679
a very cheerful woman, very vitalist, very optimistic and very enjoying. But,

751
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,000
well, those parts are there,
on the dark side of life and

752
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:22,639
of the podcast and podcasting itself,
because even though your episodes last about an

753
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:28,159
hour, we could say how many
hours they take you to work, because

754
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:34,840
look, I usually carry a script
and I like that the person feels that

755
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,199
he is talking to someone who has
bothered to meet him, because you also

756
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,679
get a lot more fun and more
juice from that person. If you know

757
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,400
her a little bit more, then
well you have to contact her. Well

758
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,840
the preproduction part, then contact her, look for a day to see you,

759
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,639
first think who you want, come, evaluate if it is aligned with

760
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:59,760
your personal and company and purpose values. Not that I did this before,

761
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,679
it does and unless, but now
I do it more, because that'

762
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:08,920
s writing a script I like to
make a special presentation that reflects a little

763
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,679
bit of the person who' s
on the podcast that day. Then you

764
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:15,199
have to record it, you have
to edit it, you have to upload

765
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:20,559
it. I do a custom cover
because I like to have a picture of

766
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:22,800
the person coming, because it'
s his episode. Then you have on

767
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:28,440
the cover your photo is named after
you and it is personalized 100% each

768
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,760
one of them and then our customers
listen to it so that they see yes

769
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,480
the work to be done. No, I' ll be on tape and

770
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:35,960
that' s it in a little
while. No. No, no,

771
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,119
and I like to write a nice
text. It seems to use as the

772
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:45,039
basis for the presentation and then add
a little bit of what we talked about

773
00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:49,360
on the podcast. No and I
publish it on networks I publish on it.

774
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:52,880
Well, I upload the Aibox episodes. I' m thinking of moving

775
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,719
to Spotify, but for the moment
I' m raising it to eBox.

776
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,719
Then you have to upload it,
you have to schedule it and well,

777
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,119
there' s a lot of work
behind it and episodes that aren' t

778
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:02,519
as fine as you wouldn' t
like and you have to work it a

779
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:08,159
little more. Not a few months
ago, I started collaborating with a girl

780
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:14,079
who is a virtual assistant and is
helping me edit some podcasts both mine and

781
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:16,920
customers, because I was no longer
in the production company. His name is

782
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,360
Patre. I send you a kiss
from here if you listen to us,

783
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:22,280
because this is a service that I
see a lot in some virtual assists.

784
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:28,280
Lately I say Mira it seems a
lie that she sees it not the production,

785
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:35,400
but the editing of podcast It is
delegated and offered also by virtual assistants,

786
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,920
because I is the part that I
thought I could begin to delegate.

787
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,719
And well, we had a training
process so that she would see, well,

788
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,920
then, learn a little more about
the knowledge that she already had and

789
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,159
see a little, because the style
of what she wanted. I told the

790
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:51,400
customers he' s editing the podcasts
to let them know, even though I

791
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,400
check, monitor, and don'
t deliver anything to the final client without

792
00:53:54,519 --> 00:54:00,920
having listened to him and sometimes doing
some things properly, but I had to

793
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,639
let go and it was one of
the decisions I made in December because I

794
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:07,480
couldn' t do it anymore.
She and I met in the virtual assistant

795
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:12,519
course of being older. We were
in the same master Mind. We'

796
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:17,079
ve always understood each other very well
and she' s a lovely, super

797
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:22,199
- intelligent working woman, because put
her captur also how many praises tonces,

798
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:28,719
good words you give to the people
of Lie and well we' re working

799
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:35,239
together and we' ve been a
few months, but it' s an

800
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,039
essential part of my mental health right
now and that I' m able to

801
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:37,559
continue doing my podcast if I go
ahead with the producer. Without her,

802
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:46,159
I couldn' t do it right
now, because listen, I congratulate her,

803
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,440
too, for agreeing with you and
having a job that I had dreamed

804
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,440
of. Well, now I can
brag about him, but years ago I

805
00:54:54,519 --> 00:55:00,880
would dream about having a job.
So, I want to ask you about

806
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,039
your recipe. It' s just
that I' ve been keeping an eye

807
00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:05,639
on it. In fact, I
think we talked about it when you caught

808
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:07,400
the crofonding you sponda in Madrid.
The recipe you talked to your daughter about

809
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:13,360
what doggies are like, dog dogs. What' s with the perruquis.

810
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,719
Or I like to smile at you. Perrukis are hot dogs, but I

811
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:24,280
made homemade ones. I love having
a house full of people. I lived

812
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:30,400
it in my little house because my
parents were two great hosts. My mother,

813
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,039
especially that she was the one who
came up with the most, not

814
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:36,320
without taking away my father' s
merit, who lit the barbecue. But

815
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,000
my mother loves having people at little
ones' house. We were very much

816
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,920
with my grandparents, my uncles,
my cousins, and I consider myself a

817
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,239
great hostess. Sometimes it' s
hard for us to say nice words to

818
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,280
ourselves, but I' m changing
that language and I' m telling it

819
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:58,039
to myself and one of my dreams
is to have a big house so I

820
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,320
can make meals with a lot of
people, without having to move anything or

821
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,760
sofas. And so because in my
house now I can invite people to eat,

822
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,320
but I have to be moving couches. And so, and it'

823
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,159
s like one of my dreams was
not a big house where I can welcome

824
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:13,159
people and do parties and celebrations,
sometimes for motive and other times for the

825
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:19,920
simple celebration of being alive and being
together. And I remember some birthdays my

826
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,559
parents were organizing when I was a
teenager. They no longer had the control

827
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:27,440
of birthday parties because it wasn'
t the whole thing that little friends came

828
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,039
home and put the sandwiches and the
coke on you. And then my parents

829
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:37,239
had a big house with a farm
and during all my adolescence I would do

830
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,559
the envied birthdays of all my friends. My parents left the house for us,

831
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,239
we all ate together and we spent
the whole afternoon playing, we had

832
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:52,280
a basket, we had a big
farm and then I invited all my friends

833
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,880
from the basketball team and my other
gang that I had in high school and

834
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,880
we got together at best there fifteen
or twenty people and we spent a day

835
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,400
that was like the day we didn' t. So that' s very

836
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,599
etched to me. I' m
grateful to my parents for putting all the

837
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,440
means in place for that to happen. And it' s one thing I

838
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:13,840
' d like to give my kids. So, my house is always open

839
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,599
for my children and my children'
s friends. And my daughter did birthdays

840
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:22,400
and invited her friends to dinner and
made them pizza, but there was a

841
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:29,320
guy who didn' t like pizza. Then it occurred to me to make

842
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,360
hot dogs. Then I made the
dough. It' s a lump I

843
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:36,599
make the Thermomix, which I hate
because it' s super sticky and very

844
00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:39,400
hard to work, but it was
like super mythical. It wasn' t

845
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,679
Emma' s birthday and there was
pizza and perrukis and, in fact,

846
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:46,679
in the episode I recorded with my
daughter for the second anniversary, one of

847
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:52,360
the guys who came home to enjoy
those birthday parties My daughter asked her friends

848
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,000
to send us questions for the episode
and contacted some friends. Also with some

849
00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:00,920
friends of mine and it was super
nice not to see that they had left

850
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,519
that memory that they already have,
because when we recorded that episode they would

851
00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:07,159
be twenty- two or twenty-
three years old and had that memory of

852
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:10,960
their childhood. And that memory is
propitiated by us in our home. So,

853
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,559
to me that' s like wow
and my son, the little one,

854
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:21,519
loves pajamas parties. Then for her
birthday. We' ve been having

855
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:22,519
a slumber party for quite a few
years now. Their friends come to dinner,

856
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,719
they stay to sleep, sometimes they
stay to eat also good, it

857
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,639
depends on the commitments they have and
it is something very special for them.

858
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:35,960
And every year I take a picture
of them with a polar camera today so

859
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,440
they already know they have to take
six or seven pictures. It depends on

860
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,440
those who come, because the same
people always come and each year they take

861
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:45,079
their polaroid photo and I have them
put my son on a shelf and it

862
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,920
is super pretty. Every time I
walk into my son' s room,

863
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,719
I see him and it' s
I don' t know how to create

864
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:58,119
those memories, not those ties.
For them it is super special and now

865
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:00,199
they move mattresses, move pillows and
make in their bed. They come in

866
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:05,119
sleeping bags. But when they were
little, it was a great responsibility to

867
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:10,760
have them at home, to ride
them all you know how to move the

868
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,599
living room once again to fit everyone. And it' s something that I

869
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:17,320
' m very proud of that my
children feel like they have a home to

870
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,719
go back to and a mother who
loves them and wants them to be happy

871
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:27,280
and have beautiful memories of life.
Not that in the end is what you

872
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,000
take and notice the memory of the
nonsense, of a nonsense for me to

873
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:36,239
ask you the recipe of a hot
dog, the memory you created and transmit

874
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:38,239
it, because I wouldn' t
know this story if it weren' t,

875
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,760
because you told it to your daughter
on your podcast. Yeah, and

876
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:46,119
now in mine I don' t
want to say goodbye without asking you two

877
00:59:46,199 --> 00:59:51,039
questions that I stole from you,
but I' ve adapted them a little

878
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:54,800
bit to my podcast. I think
I already know where you' re going

879
00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:01,320
with who you' d record a
podcast Bufff with a lot of people.

880
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,360
It' s the same way your
guests feel. Yeah, they always tell

881
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,480
me it' s the hardest question
look. The first person to come to

882
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:14,360
my mind was Victor Coopers. I
would also like to record with Enrique Sánchez

883
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,760
because I admire him very much and
I love everything he created and did his

884
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,119
training last year and I don'
t know many people. I think,

885
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:28,719
like I tell you, everyone has
a podcast or several, but I don

886
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,760
' t know. Victor Coopers came
to my head. I went with my

887
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,639
daughter to watch it live in Coruña, 60 kilometers from the city where we

888
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:38,559
live, because, well, it
was also a legacy that wanted to leave

889
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:43,159
my daughter the talent matters, which
is one of the things you always say,

890
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:49,960
Victor Coopers, how you do things
matters your abilities, obviously, can

891
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,400
determine many things of your life,
but in the end, your attitude is

892
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,920
the one that multiplies. Not then, well, I thought it was a

893
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,960
nice courage to pass it on to
my daughter at a time when she was,

894
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,320
well, making the decision of which
career to choose from, because I

895
01:01:04,519 --> 01:01:08,880
believe that trusting in yourself and your
values and abilities, because it is never

896
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:15,960
more important that time. How important
it is and how good it is for

897
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,920
someone to support you, as you
said with your daughter, for someone to

898
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,480
let you make the decision, but
to accompany you and back you up to

899
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:23,559
put a hand on your back.
Yeah, yeah, you? You'

900
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:24,360
re going on, you? You' re still going on? I'

901
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,559
m here, I' m here. He feels like I' m here,

902
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,760
but the road marks him. You' re the hardest thing to be

903
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,199
a mother. For me, I
think children have to fall, they have

904
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,000
to stumble, they have to be
wrong and they have to be stained.

905
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:40,639
It' s the only way you
learn. I in my life have learned

906
01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:45,760
much more from bad times than from
good ones. So, as a mother,

907
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,039
it' s very hard to see
that they' re going to fall

908
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:51,800
and let them fall, but it' s the only way they' re

909
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,199
going to learn. And I,
my children, want you to have two

910
01:01:53,199 --> 01:01:58,880
things. I want them to have
roots, to know that behind them are

911
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,239
being raised by people who love them
and that they are going to do everything

912
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,360
so that they are well and have
the life of their dreams. But I

913
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,000
also want to give them rooms,
I want them to smell, I want

914
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:13,360
them to live, they to dream, they to experience and if they have

915
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,599
to go away than as a mother, I think that' s what it

916
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:16,199
would cost me the most if others
left. They have to make their way,

917
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,480
they have to live their life,
they have to enjoy, because this

918
01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:24,199
lasts three TV news, eyelashes a
little strong and it' s been a

919
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:27,920
year. Now, instead of telling
you to put it on yourself, someone

920
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,719
' s gonna put it on my
girlfriend better so she hears this thing you

921
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,559
say they have to fall, they
have to be wrong. There are times

922
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,039
when she' s coming out of
the house, you haven' t taken

923
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:42,119
her backpack, I say daigua don' t take the cronbook or the book

924
01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:45,400
of whatever it is that she gets
a foul scolding at school, because she

925
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,920
' s the one who has to
realize that she hasn' t taken the

926
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,400
cronco or the book. You can' t go, as a mother,

927
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,599
tell her every day and one day
she has to go without a sandwich and

928
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:57,159
fuck her and she' s in
the snack without a sandwich and say oh

929
01:02:57,199 --> 01:02:58,679
my mother hasn' t made me
local. It' s not that it

930
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,400
' s you, that you'
re already an age, that you have

931
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,480
to take your sandwich. My children, since they were quite young, did

932
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,480
basic housework for which they were prepared. They made, of course, their

933
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:09,920
backpacks to go to the cool and
their suitcases to go over the weekend to

934
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,480
see the grandparents and has taught them
to cook both, which is one thing

935
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,679
that when my daughter started college.
He thanked me very much and it is

936
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:22,199
true that some weekend they have left
without underwear or have not worn socks.

937
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,719
Or it' s the only way
to learn. So we can' t

938
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,719
pretend that when they grow up they' re autonomous, they' re demanding

939
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:32,800
and fighting for their dreams. If
you since you' re little, they

940
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:37,719
' re telling you how to do
it, what to do, when and

941
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,199
how. Those who make the bed
and look bad are the same as cooking

942
01:03:42,239 --> 01:03:45,280
and burning the egg. It'
s okay. They are learning and for

943
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:52,039
me it is a value as a
mother that the parents of my children share

944
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:54,360
and good with my daughter Manayor,
who is twenty- three years old,

945
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,719
but has not gone wrong in this
one go. Okay, that' s

946
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:00,880
good. And last question, with
whom did he record this last podcast?

947
01:04:01,199 --> 01:04:04,719
Yeah, can you count? Yeah, can you count the last podcast?

948
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:13,039
I recorded it with Beatriz Castellanos.
She is a girl who is a training

949
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:19,800
lawyer, who worked for many years
on issues related to gender- based violence

950
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:27,000
and a year ago she started and
we contacted because she is. We got

951
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:32,559
in touch Paloma growing up your Coco, who was the sponsor of the pontais.

952
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,320
Yes, yes, a little dream
for her, because I and Paloma

953
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,400
agreed on a formation and well,
we have met several times and we have

954
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,920
a very good relationship. And she
told me that Beatriz Castellan was looking for

955
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,760
us well, that she had published
a book called cosmofeminism and that good that

956
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,320
I was interested to come to my
podcast and I would be interested then nothing.

957
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,280
I read the book Beatriz sent me
and the subject seemed very interesting,

958
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,719
because it is a trilogy of moments
alone. It is published the first book

959
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:05,360
that is like past, present and
future of women in space no. And,

960
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,800
well, I read the book,
I liked it and nothing. He

961
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,920
came to the podcast and we recorded
it. It' ll be the next

962
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,639
one to be published. This is
March, because it will be published by

963
01:05:17,719 --> 01:05:24,000
the end of March. He'
s already got it edited and almost when

964
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:26,920
this chapter comes out. Well,
I told you it was the last question,

965
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:30,960
but I lied to you. You
have already invited or invited for a

966
01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:34,320
guest or guest for the May pon
niit, because yes, three days ago,

967
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,360
when we spoke, I told you
no and you want to tell.

968
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:42,199
That' s another question, but, well, look, I' m

969
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,199
gonna tell you and I' m
gonna ask her if I can tell or

970
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:48,519
not. Okay, well, that' s how we do it. You

971
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:51,159
think, I' ll tell you. If she leaves me or we publish

972
01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:55,000
it, yes, she tells me
that better later, because we wait for

973
01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:58,079
each other is good, because my
guest is Yolanda Cambra. She' s

974
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:02,559
the first customer I trust. She
is a mentor for entrepreneur entrepreneurs and has

975
01:06:02,599 --> 01:06:10,039
been my covert mentor and trusted me
before myself, and I was very excited

976
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:16,960
that we shared stage in the spontnightes. She is becoming a lecturer and on

977
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:25,039
25 May it will be a conference
in Madrid for personal development and I was

978
01:06:25,079 --> 01:06:30,119
very excited that it was her.
It couldn' t be because of a

979
01:06:30,199 --> 01:06:33,320
professional theme that matched her that weekend, but well, for different circumstances,

980
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,719
the stars finally lined up and it' s going to be her. And

981
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:41,039
I' m very excited because,
besides, the Pondiis. My husband'

982
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:43,880
s coming, he' s going
to open my kids, my mother'

983
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,440
s coming. I' m very
excited that my mother lives that moment and

984
01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:53,280
I' m going to like to
put those two worlds together, to put

985
01:06:53,400 --> 01:07:00,679
my family together with this professional part
that has so absorbed me over the last

986
01:07:00,719 --> 01:07:04,679
few months and my family has been
like what they say when it' s

987
01:07:04,679 --> 01:07:08,840
like a collateral side effect. They' ve suffered collateral damage from my change

988
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,000
of profession, because now I'
m less time with them and well,

989
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:15,719
life has changed us a little bit. Then I am very excited to bring

990
01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:18,800
my family together, with my most
professional part, and to have the podcast

991
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,199
live. They already came, my
mother, no, but my children and

992
01:07:21,239 --> 01:07:26,599
my husband already came to the podcast
that recorded live in Milladoiran to where I

993
01:07:26,599 --> 01:07:29,480
live. And now I' m
very excited that you know each other,

994
01:07:29,719 --> 01:07:30,760
because of course, I' m
talking about each other, about each other.

995
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,760
And that day, on the pinches
we' ll take later, I

996
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,599
hope you can spend a little while
together, that you can meet. And

997
01:07:38,719 --> 01:07:43,280
it' s like a circle coming
together, two parts of a circle coming

998
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,840
together. And Holland is a very
important person to me. It' s

999
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,639
been a long time since I wanted
to record an episode with her, but

1000
01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:54,559
I felt like it was something special, something different. Not like giving her

1001
01:07:54,599 --> 01:07:59,199
a gift, a tribute, and
I think the pont Nights is the best

1002
01:07:59,239 --> 01:08:02,559
gift I can give to her and
to my own mother, what a responsibility

1003
01:08:02,599 --> 01:08:04,800
you' ve passed on to me
right now. It' s gonna be

1004
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,559
a super special day. I'
m afraid something' s going wrong,

1005
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,519
but we' ll try not to. Well that everyone who is listening to

1006
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:15,359
this, if you want to meet
with your ticket already a few days ago,

1007
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,880
that I am putting the link in
the notes of the episode that now

1008
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:25,439
works already, you can buy them
now yes and that I hope to see

1009
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,399
you all next May 10 in the
street the cicarrias number six of Madrid,

1010
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,680
in the Artist and Metropol. With
this we will meet for a live and

1011
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:35,600
live coffee to celebrate the third anniversary, third, fourth, third, third

1012
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:40,239
anniversary of your podcast. On one
of those special days for you, it

1013
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,960
' s been a real pleasure to
have you on the other side of the

1014
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,680
microphone. Thank you very much for
inviting me and for giving me this possibility.

1015
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:54,319
It' s been a pleasure for
me too, and now we say

1016
01:08:54,439 --> 01:09:04,079
goodbye and go back to that place
where you are right now, across the microphone,
