Today I bring you a different episode, not only for the duration that you
have already seen that it is a little longer than usual, for the guest
that I will now present to you, that you have also been able to
guess by the title of the episode, but because I will cannibalize a little
bit, its own podcast, its own podcast format. I' ll invite
you in. We welcome you to the other side of the microphone. On
the other side of the microphone, a project by Jorge Marín Nieto in which
you will find your daily ration of metapodcasting, casting with news, events,
tools or episodes of opinion in just ten minutes. Ten minutes, ten minutes.
Today I want to welcome every listener who has passed across the microphone in
this episode nine hundred and forty- four to know one more aspect of the
podcasting that surrounds me. I am Jorge Marín and in this podcast I usually
talk about news, events, curiosities, tools, tips and a long,
etcetera. All me in small doses of ten to fifteen minutes. But not
today is going to be a little longer. This time, besides that the
episode, as I said, is going to be longer than usual and you
may notice the sound somewhat different, as I have abandoned my usual study.
I have come to Madrid to record in person, to record this episode prepot
Night Madrid with Seu, the creator of the podcast. We are waiting for
a café that I am right now in front of and with which I will
talk about his project, his journey as an entrepreneur of his facet as a
podcast producer and also, of course, of his podcasting, which you already
know is the niche of this metapodcast and what has united us or better said,
will unite us next May 10th in the third edition of pot Nay Madrid,
of this two thousand twenty- four in the Artistic Metropol of Madrid,
on the street of the cicarrieras. Number six, from about eight and a
half in the afternoon. Well, we' re not going to join a
little bit sooner, because we have to prepare everything. Well, you know
how this is going, because I hope it' s not the first prepotni
and Madrid episode you hear Seu listening to today you' re going to perment
me, that you' re going to allow me to forgive myself for changing
the name of your podcast a little bit, since we' ve met for
coffee. We' re already on it. We' ve already taken something
and in passing so that, taking advantage of the name of my podcast,
you can go over to the other side of the microphone and tell us a
little more about yourself. Welcome. Thank you very much, Jorge. It
' s a pleasure for me to be here with you, recording people is
always a plus. Yes, yes, and I don' t know where
we started, because I wanted to ask you how you heard about the event
pot de and Madrid, because if I tell you the truth, I don
' t remember. I don' t know if I found it online,
on Instagram or if we have it. We probably have people in common,
because in fact, since we' ve known each other virtually and started talking,
we' ve found that we have a lot of people in common and
maybe I saw it in some of them. I don' t remember,
but I know that when I saw him and I found out that he was
active. I thought it was a good opportunity to meet for a coffee and
for me as a podcaster, and I got in the car. In about
thirty seconds I got the mail and said who signed up if you didn'
t ask me anything. He hasn' t asked me any questions or anything,
and I' ve already had to investigate. Drop the lyre. You
said that we have people in common and we have many things in common because
of the little we have talked about, we have entrepreneurs from the two of
us recently, a lot of podcasting and a lot of podcasting of what we
will now talk about and precisely wanted to start there. How did you get
to podcasting, not as a creator, but as a podcast listener, as
I came from the hand of Cristina Mitre and later Alex Fidalgo and after Enrix
Sánchez and Christina Mitre. He hooked me in a brutal way because his way
of communicating, his naturalness, his professionalism, I love how he communicates and
I have always liked to talk since I was a child and I dreamed of
working on TV, on the radio, on big stages and in fact,
as a child I read the mass of my school and it was like the
best moment of the course. You know, yeah, I have a past
fio nun school and I don' t know before getting to the media was
much harder and now I' m gonna tell you impossible. Yeah, yeah,
and I don' t know. It was an idea that started to
get into my head and I was a great podcast user and I' m
still and suddenly, because one day it occurred to me and I didn'
t have any kind of training about it. I had no idea about this.
I was working and managing in a union something totally different from this,
and in the pandemic I bit my bug there a little bit and did an
experiment in the pandemic. I don' t know, if we have time
all you want you' ll see is a little freaky eh, but since
I know you' ll take this too what I want for these episodes.
He did an experiment in the pandemic because I am the typical person who organized
the halaos of all groups, the dinners, the meals, the one who
was always aware that everyone was well, the one who always accompanies when a
person is sick. It was always the, as it is said, cultural
dynamizing of parties and events. They couldn' t give me a council of
celebrations at City Hall and then I realized that during the first months of the
pandemic, practically nobody had asked me you and you how you are. So
I said, I' m going to try not to write to anyone,
not to communicate with anyone, and see how many people are interested in me.
The result of the experiment was, on the one hand, painful,
because very few people were interested in me, but at the same time it
was enlightening, because you realize the people who really care what happened, who
generated a lot of free time. So, in that free time, create
my podcast. Then I trained as a virtual assistant and gave rise to everything
that has come. After leaving my company to set up my current three lines
of work and it' s amazing how to spend some time and focusing on
yourself, you can change your world, which is my case. For example,
if the pandemic, many of us opened our eyes, I think it
put a mirror in front of us and told us listen look at this better
than this routine you were doing so far, this inertia that you are leading
so far maybe you have to devote a little bit more to yourself or you
have to worry about something else. It happens that with the run Run Room
it didn' t give us life and, indeed, what you say you
hear and if I think a little bit more about myself and look, look
now. I am a caring person par excellence. I love people, I
love sharing moments like this. In fact, the name of my podcast comes
from those moments of complicity and intimacy, of sharing, of laughing, of
crying from what arises. I love supporting people both in good times and in
bad times, and I' m very detailed. I love giving away that
special thing that you can enjoy travel, give away experiences and in the pandemic
I realized that all that energy I was spending or investing in a lot of
people, what I was doing was exhausting myself. Then there was no energy
left for me. And it was a pretty big impact, because let'
s say my way of relating to me changed quite a bit with my environment
and some people have told me that because, like they missed me, you
don' t come here, but of course, in many groups, since
I made that decision? No more meetings, no more dinners, no more
events, and I made that decision consciously. And what he brought me is
very big, yes, yes and listen and fruitful, because I know that
you have already dedicated to yourself what you said by training yourself now, in
fact, you are here in Madrid to give some formation. No, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no. Well,
it' s been ten years and it hasn' t been a long time.
It was not two years ago that I took a stand as an autonomous
and a year and a half that I dedicated myself exclusively to my business,
I had been in a company for twenty- three years and applied for leave
of absence because it seemed to me that the time had come. I couldn
' t grow anymore because I didn' t have more hours to work with
clients and felt the need to try. I talked to my husband, who
is my life partner and a great man and we account for the money that
this episode gives you to hear, to listen to him how you presume yes,
yes, he knows, because I tell him openly, he' s
a great life partner, because then I' m going to put it on
my girlfriend so she can brag about me not that. I' m not
sure if protus is something we do a lot of talking about. Okay,
but when I wasn' t a person ahead, well, because we did
accounting and we came to the economic conclusion that for a year I could dedicate
myself to my project, which is now a business, but at that time
it was a project without our economy or our family being resented. So,
I, who' s been working since I was twenty- one, was
a very young mother and I' ve been dedicating my life to others since
I was seventeen years old, because I decided it was my time and that
year I was going to give it to myself. Well, not only did
I make from the first month, but I beat billing records almost a month
after another, having months of five zero euros of eight zero euros that were
unthinkable to me. I didn' t think I could make that kind of
money myself. Then it is another barrier, another mental limit that I have
broken during my venture and this year one of the projects that makes me most
excited for the moment is a formation that I am giving in a school here
in Torrejón de Ardoz that we are creating a podcast. The second graders of
that and some teachers are creating the school podcast. We have several face-
to- face sessions, several videoconference sessions and the intention is that next year,
students who are trained this year can pass on their knowledge to the following
courses and that it is like a chain a legacy and an activity that extends
beyond this year. Well, if they have to call you, they'
ll call you, too. In fact, one of the students proposed to
make a podcast video and I told him it' s okay. We talked
to the director and next year we proposed a video podcast without problems. Well,
that' s what it has to be. At the moment, it
' s been a mind- blowing experience because kids keep surprising me. They
' re digital natives. I' ve never worked with digital natives before.
The difference is abysmal. Totally. They' re boys and girls, well
boys because they' re teenagers and they hear me calling them girls at best.
They don' t like it. Very awake, very collaborative and very
communicative. One of them, in addition, made some announcements that caught my
attention so young and is I have many exciting projects this year. But this
is definitely how they tell me six months ago. And he wouldn' t
see me. I mean, I wouldn' t believe it. It seems
a lie to me that we often talk about it before we turn on the
recorder, as we often put barriers on ourselves. And no, not me,
me for that? Or not me? Don' t you? Don
' t you? No, yeah? You? Yeah? You? Yeah,
and look? Now look back and look at these three years. Well,
four. We' ve been talking two thousand twenty- four since the
pandemic. Now what you' ve got, what you' re saying to
me has also happened to me the first few months that all that billing said.
Then maybe it' s benefits or not, but all that billing has
gone through me because I' m just there. I don' t have
a company behind me, I don' t have a big half- cart.
I have not been able to achieve all that, but many times we
have to challenge ourselves or break a barrier to ourselves. You' ve got
almost fifty chapters already. You' re not staying for coffee. And all
this started by doing the podcast we give for a coffee. Yeah, I
mean, first it was doing the podcast and then you decided to start and
spend the time. Yeah, me, with the podcast, I found out
there were a lot of professions online. I' ve been wanting to change
for quite a few years, because I have a restless mind. I like
to face challenges, I like to meet cities, new people, new people.
I didn' t always move through the same areas and the same environments,
and my life was a little bit like that. It wasn' t
office work from nine to two and a half. Then my family, my
children. I always did some sports, because for many years I did ballroom
dances another season, because I went to the gym that I love swimming.
Then I was always looking for something that would complement me and cover that need
to learn and face unknown things. And the podcast, it was certainly a
big challenge because I had no idea how to record, I had no idea
of microphones, I knew nothing about anything. I spent a lot of time
on him. Besides, I was self- taught. No, you didn
' t itch me to sign up for a course or contact a person like
it was a hobby, because I started like this with YouTube tutorials and but
many times the fact of cheering yourself up and discovering self- didactically is better,
because you see everything wrong. You don' t take many steps,
you take many steps, but little by little, little by little, and
in the end, as you learn it, you research yourself more you form
more than you do then maybe you can complement not with a course, but
if you' re the one who' s interested in learning that something,
you learn it Jun at least to me works that way. I, when
I train myself learn it maybe, slower. But yes, yes, I
am the living proof of that. I started recording with my daughter' s
WII karaoke microphone. They' re not bad microphones. That, in fact,
is the first I know that I have done it with that in the
test I did at the Torrejón Institute, which in the first face- to
- face session I brought them all the microphones that I have the karaoke ones,
some that I had in the middle that were a little bit better and
surrounded them with those that I tabo now and there were some that they liked
very much. How the karaok sounded, which is curious. Well, then,
where we were going. I started this podcast and that would make you
on foot worth continuing to grow. I discovered a lot of digital professions as
a parallel universe that I didn' t know and came to the virtual assistance
course of being older, because I had been working as a specialist for twenty
- three years. I' m a company and I thought being a virtual
assistant was the same thing, but it was online. Then, being online,
I was allowed to work from my home, which was something I really
wanted. Working from my house in silence, without the phone ringing continuously,
without being interrupted asking for things continuously. It was something I dreamed of,
I had been dreaming for years and that would allow me to live anomalously.
Now, my son is twelve years old, but I would like when he
is a little older to live in different cities, because for more or less
long periods, depending on my possibilities and circumstances at that time and this profession
allowed me to do that. Then I started to form and since I'
m pretty intense and I get pretty into something and I don' t know
how to get in a bit or I get in. I don' t
get involved, because I started training in March and in April I had a
client. In May I was already high in self- employed and in July
I applied for leave of absence. Then I started the podcast. In May
of the two thousand twenty- one, I began training in February of the
two thousand twenty- two and in October of the two thousand twenty- two
I took leave of absence. I' m still working with that client.
Yeah, I' m still working with that client, who is Yolanda Cambra
and her company is called Zero Foolish and now I' m a leader tinm.
We have a team of ten eleven people and we' re still working
together. We' ve both grown a lot at this time and it'
s good. She' s a mentor for entrepreneurs, she' s a
reference for me, she' s a lecturer. Okay. Apart from loving
her a lot, I' ve learned a lot and also put the chapter
on her to see. As you presume men, you know better. I
really liked the phrase we grew up together, because she will have grown logically
you too. But we' ve been together. That says a lot.
H Schons one team and the two of us are very happy to work together.
And that you can tell, you can tell from the customers, you
can tell from the family, and that feeling is transmitted. Well, then.
It' s something that keeps surprising me because I lived many years in
black and white, with a lot of fear to let go of the job
and when I decided to buy the training of virtual assistant, I thought for
twenty- three years doing it is like a natural jump. You' re
not doing the same thing online. You need to learn other tools, other
ways to communicate with your customers. You have to learn to sell yourself to
reach customers, but you can do it. I mean, I, my
company was well valued, they were happy with my work. In fact,
it was a shock to them when I told them I was leaving, because
they never contemplated that scenario and they were all my fears of not being able,
of not finding customers, of not earning enough to maintain the standard of
living that my family had. To refusing everyone to say no to me,
to being told where you' re going to get into it. Because,
besides, many times I felt misunderstood because I had a job that from outside
was the dream of many people, that was what I had studied. I
was very close to my house, I had a very good schedule, I
had a very good salary, you paid extra vacation that you have made so
much less I had ras you can give it to yourself. Yes, if
I have projects that I do as well as accumulate by primestres or by somestes.
And I say well, this is my extra pay. No, and
then many times I' ve felt judged because when I said I wanted to
change jobs, people would tell me but what you want. You know what
else you want? If you have everything you can dream of and I say
well, it' s true that it was very good work, but it
wasn' t the job I needed. He became very happy for many years,
he was the breadwinner of my family for many years. I will be
eternally grateful to that company, my bosses, my colleagues, but I felt
that it was no longer my place, that I had to get out of
there. And now there' s a phrase that I say a lot,
which is that I live in colors and I used to live in black and
white, and I think it perfectly defines my feelings and how I live.
My undertaking seems to me to be a lie, but those fears that you
have, that I have had, almost everyone has. I think he decides
to undertake or maybe not to undertake, but he does look a little out
the window maybe he is in a place that is very comfortable. What you
say, and just by looking out, it says where I' m going
or how well I' m here, this is security. But I think
that in the end they are barriers, so we said before, barriers that
we put to ourselves and that if we dare to overcome one, then another
comes, then another comes, then another comes. And by this I do
not mean that we have to undertake. Be easy and don' t.
It' s not and it' s for everyone. That' s also
to see that I' ve been a year and a month, but you
take a little advantage of me. But what you say, those same fears,
I have, I have, I will, but I also have many
other joys that I want you to tell me about them. Also how that
world of colors has been, that two years you' ve been living in
colors. Well, last year, in October, I recorded a live podcast
with an audience in the auditorium of the city where I live. I heard.
I heard two chapters that I recorded, because the idea was to record
just one and make a table before the podcast with three podcasters friends and in
the end it was so nice what we recorded before the conversation we had,
that I asked them yesterday on the march if it was okay for it to
be an episode of the podcast. Well, they quickly got in the cart
Son Menendez and Paula Moras, who are your traveling companions sending a greeting to
Leo because he was also here as a guest. Podcasting also changed his life
We could hear his story in the seven hundredth episode and it was the person
that put us. I' m not going to say in contact, because
it was an indirect contact, because he told me about your episode. I
think that' s when I did the talk at Mambler and then chance of
life, you contacted me for the pontneymads so I read. In the end
an Argentine had to come from Argentina Spain to put us in common, being
so close to quotation marks. I just realized that I met you at that
Manmbler talk and it was you who called me a day later. It may
not be that he called me a person, a Galician woman, the next
day, because at the end of that talk and I wanted to ask you
because I didn' t know if it was you in that talk, at
the end of the talk. I put in my contact' s QR code,
context card, and the next day he calls me someone hello, me,
hello, tell me no, no, tell me, you, I
don' t. The one you called me is you apple It' s
not like I took your contact yesterday from a talk you gave and I didn
' t know he should have called you inadvertently. And ah, well,
maybe I' ll contact you well for what might come up and I thought
it was you, because I know you' re a Galician person, a
Galician woman. I didn' t, I didn' t, well yeah,
I met you there and look. I just remembered, because I read
it was a discovery for me. He is an amazing person and when he
came to the event, I invited him and he pointed to the minute one
was surprised by the organization, the quality of the audio, how well we
had mounted him that it was noticed that the details were very pampered, which
is something that characterizes me. I believe the small details are the ones that
make the difference. And then we had a few pricks too. We'
ll meet at the end of the recordings and have a drink. And Angel
Carracero also stayed, who was the brand- new protagonist of episode forty and
Leo and Paula of episode forty- one. There they told their story and
their journey in this world and, indeed, Leo changed his life and Paula
also. So, if you want to hear them, they' re very
interesting and Leo' s a wonderful, wonderful man who gives it to you.
Everything. He got half the audience. Everyone was caught up in his
way of communicating, in his way of talking about how he was with each
and every one of them, and he' s a great communicator and a
better person. I' m delighted to have known him the truth and well,
since we' re here bringing out miseries. That project had me absorbed
all last year because it was something I wanted to do, but I was
so scared that I went doing bits and pieces. No. Then I said
I want to do this, what I have to do to get here.
Then I was scheduling in my will to schedule every task. Imagine calling the
city council to book the living room, contacting a leo to see if he
wants to come and talk to Angel. I had an interview with Angel a
year before I did it, but well, because of a personal problem he
had and because he has a very tight schedule. I was afraid to call
him we were concrete and he was super friendly and he lent himself to everything,
because notice how afraid he was that he was late, almost a year
to prepare it and then he was moving another barrier to call him. Then
you realize that he is a very nice person, very normal, but you
have that barrier that you put yourself on that he and had the interview closed
because he had already told me through a friend that he was going to come
then. Every task, every day was a challenge, because maybe it was
a phone call or it was sending an email. But it was to believe
in me that I was able to do something like that, that I could
interest people. And in the end, my idea was to get on a
stage. I didn' t care if there were ten, twenty or a
hundred but I wanted to do it live, live with the audience. I
wanted to live that experience and I wanted to bring podcasting there to my village,
to the place where I live. So I' ve been through a
lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of fear management that didn
' t have any kind of difficulty, like ordering some programs in the printing
press or managing the cattering reservation that good my friend Luis took on in the
cafeteria. Everything scared me, because it wasn' t that call or that
management. It was all that implied. So, the day it came in
that I thought I was going to be super nervous, because I' m
a pretty nervous person and it seems pretty anxious. When I went in the
morning with the guys at the sound company and started doing the tests, they
told me your speech, your speech? And I said, well, I
' m gonna do it as a rehearsal and I felt good. There'
s a phrase I' m saying but you can say tacos. Yeah,
well, I already felt the whore loves up there on stage. It'
s a hard feeling to describe, but as a wonder woman, whatever,
it' s a feeling that repeats every time I get on a stage and
I love it because it connects me with myself, with my ability to communicate
and show the world who I am and to share it with other people,
which is the most important thing. So, well, my great success or
my great satisfaction last year was that live podcast with audience. Well, I
hope this year will be the 10th of May, the 10th of May appointment
at the artist and metropol te. Notice that the stage isn' t too
high. It' s a little step, but I hope you feel at
home and, above all, enjoy it. This I tell to all those
who come to the Sponda of Madrid that you come to micropost, that you
come here I take care of everything else I put you even part of the
audience, not everything, but that you come to enjoy that everything is already
assembled. It' s all you don' t worry about some detail you
want to put you warning me as someone we' ve talked about already,
but you come and enjoy that it' s a night hearing for me it
' s a night podcasting, but for you it' s a night of
your podcast that it seems that it doesn' t and I encourage many people,
as you have done to encourage them to mount events like this, which
is not difficult. We put a barrier, because we once again to the
same subject as before, both you who have already done it, and Javi
Fernández of how your move came that told you before that a crofaunding is being
made to do it his way. There, in Asturias there are crowds,
crowds of characters or have a podcast project and take him out on the street
or take him out to a local. It' s not hard to get
on and as you say doing a check- up and little by little check
- che che che and when the day comes you get over it and you
say or why I haven' t done this before, because it' s
very satisfying for yourself to do something really costs us a lot, but when
it already hatches, you finally say wow at last. I' m sure
May Day is going to be a very special day. I published the first
episode of my podcast on my birthday, May 5, I gave it to
myself. Then I decided to give it to me on my birthday, which
is my favorite day of the year. I' m a freak from my
birthday and every year I do a special thing. The first year my friend
Amarga interviewed me. She put me across the microphone and it was she who
wisely conducted the podcast. We recorded it in person at his house in Barcelona
and it was a super beautiful experience, because I had several surprises from friends
of the communes prepared and I have to say that thanks to my friends,
this podcast came out, because I was very afraid of who will want to
come, to talk to me. You know, I mean, who'
s gonna want to sit down? And tell me her stuff and my friends
started telling me I' m going, I' m going, I'
m going, and the first beautiful protagonists of the first episodes are all friends
of mine. Then, my gratitude to all of them for giving me a
push and a strength. And today it' s weird the week I don
' t get a message for instagram from someone who wants to come to my
podcast. So the not- the- writer turn of life has been like
quite surprising. And, besides, this is another thing that I wanted to
ask you how you choose your guests, because it seems to me that guests
have passed from completely different and niche areas that I say how you select it,
because recently you have had a man who matures wines under the sea that
I have stayed and then another girl who I think is the last girl as
a woman or lady who has raised well, has educated her children at home
how you choose or all volunteer or what you have to do when you appear
before you get into that I wanted to do a recognition to my daughter.
I have a question about that chapter too. The second anniversary of the podcast
I celebrated recording an episode with my daughter, because when I recorded the first
year, she told me mom, I would have loved to do it myself
and I said so don' t worry that next year we do it and
well she came up with a lot, a lot and I' m very
grateful. It was a super special moment. We recorded together, of course,
we lived together and it was super pretty. If it' s the
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And now, well, now the special episode of the third anniversary will
be the one we recorded in the spond nights I wanted to clarify it before
my birthday is the 5th of May. The episode is not going to come
out on May 5, because we will record it on May 10, but
well it will be to live it as close as possible of your birthday that
the direct comes, because it will be like another gift that I am going
to make myself for my birthday, like every anniversary of podcast and answering your
question, the guests basically respond to my mental restlessness. People I' m
interested in, whom I know by different means, sometimes unsuspected and I'
ve lost the shame I had of inviting people to the podcast. It is
true that many people ask me to come and I cannot attend to all the
requests I have. I' d like to, but I have three business
tracks to attend right now and I' d love to publish a podcast weekly,
but it' s not viable with a life I have and I prefer
not to do it wrong and not to give it that respect that the person
who stands on the other side of my microphone deserves, then I publish that
fortnightly or monthly, as I can and I don' t break my head
with that subject anymore. That' s what I can do now. It
' s 100% of what I can give and when the other time comes,
if I can do it another way, then it' ll come.
But at the moment it' s not like that. And basically that,
because with Borja, the one in the underwater cellar, I gave Yolanda Cambra
that she is a lover of wine and the sea. I gave him a
bottle aged under the sea for Christmas and well he already published it in instagram.
The boy thanked me because she put it all in saying that she had
given it to him. Me. The boy thanked me. I told him
your project freaks me out. We started talking. I told Jor to come
to the podcast. The world needs to know this and it' s amazing
because this company has come out in National Geographic, in international documentaries and I
didn' t know it, and no one in my environment that you talked
to knew her. Then good to give voice to this kind of business.
I think it' s very interesting. And besides that Borja is a man
' s love, he was charming and a little bit like that and Violeta
was a Yolanda Cambra client. We met there at a face- to-
face event that made yolanda for his clients. And it' s not a
thing that woke me up very curious because I, as a frustrated student,
I suffered a lot at school because well, well, because it was a
little different from the rest and I might have other abilities and well, I
didn' t feel like I didn' t fit in very well and with
my children. I have lived it with the two who have high abilities and
have spent complicated moments also at school and I recognize that many times it has
crossed my mind bring them to me home and avoid that problem. But I
' ve never dared, I haven' t had the courage to do it
with most go and late is already working, but with the little one,
because because of the little I know her say you have to boast also of
daughter. How little I heard in this episode. Yes, yes, my
daughter is a lovely woman and has been able to follow her instincts, her
desires and create a life her measure. And I think it has a lot
of value, because many times society is shouting what you have to do,
how you have to do it, and when you don' t have to
do it. And she' s been able to stay true to herself and
get into a career like she' s fine arts deposed by many people,
but she felt it inside and she did. And, well, I'
m very proud of her, more so right now than you were saying,
because society is yelling at you. Society right now our time is not that
you yell, that imposes you, it seems a lie that these puddles I
' m touching the phone now force us to do in a way to follow
some guidelines, that we won' t see that each person can choose his
way, each person can have his/ her I don' t know how
to say it, his/ her decisions and be completely respectable. And besides,
he must be encouraged to do so. People are extraordinary. There is
one sentence that I repeat quite a lot and that is that we all have
a podcast, or ten podcasts, because we all have something that makes us
special. I, for example, call myself Mary Joseph, but everyone calls
me seu behind that name or a story to tell it. Yeah, I
love to tell. Besides, uh, I have three brothers. My older
sister, Marta, is going to kill me for this, but she'
s my sister who endures and is older. Then comes my brother Caesar,
who takes me fifteen months if he is the one who gave me this name,
for I am there and then I have a little brother named Luke.
He' s 13 years old, he' s a lot smaller than me.
Then my brother and I took fifteen months and children. We were always
together. In fact, I started in kindergarten because I missed him and I
was always very much with him, with your friends and well, we had
a super pretty little relationship and he started calling me Seuca Claria. He was
15 months old, he didn' t speak well, and that' s
the typical thing he does. Many thanks to the parents and stayed with Seuca.
He passed to Seu and my parents never called me Maria José, well
my father, sometimes if he' s a little angry, but they call
me Seuca seus euquiña. I' m Galician. You have already realized these
heights and for many years, because it was Maria Jossa at work and in
such more official environments, and when I decided to start, I also started
out there, not like Maria José, virtual assistant, but it came to
a point that I felt that that did not represent me and then I decided
to give it a turn. In fact, my website is called Meseu,
which I think is a statement of intent They don' t see for curaseo
if not the seo It doesn' t matter if you have to call me
seu call mesups. That is the story of my name and, as I
was saying, we all carry anecdotes, stories, moments of overcoming, a
lot of circumstances that have led us to be as we are and I like
to know those parts that sometimes maybe we hide a little, because I think
they are the ones that make us more special. I' m remembering an
episode now, I think it' s thirty- three, but I'
m not sure the number I recorded with a guy who lost much of the
hearing and an important part of the vision is called Felipe. His website is
called with two balls and a cane also fatty out, because he is dedicated
to traveling the world. He loved to travel before having these health problems and
he still loves to travel and continues to travel, despite the difficulties he has.
And he doesn' t travel to the Canary Islands. Hey, there
' s a bunch of trips that you' re hallucinating to Colombia, to
Asia, that is, some things that I' m saying, man,
you put a value on that the name of your project goes to his hair.
No, and in addition, it records documentaries of how disability is lived
in different countries of the world, because in Spain, in that sense we
are quite privileged. The work of the eleven is noticed a lot and he
has felt accompanied and lives alone. And I was a guy who when I
met him because I heard him on a podcast, he freaked me out because
I say I need to know this man more and talk to him. He
is a charming man who handles himself with new technologies, travels, edits his
videos. It' s lovely and good A channel opened in the podcast.
He told the whole process, how it had been, how he had acquired
disability, how he had had to adapt to that life. And when in
the end you talk about those things that have marked you or that you'
re passionate about making shines and I love to see people when they shine and
I love to be a facilitator for those people to shine and that they have
that podcast left. For me, podcast is a legacy that I am a
sonorous legacy that I am leaving to my children in future generations. Maybe it
' s a bit ostentatious of me to say it like that, because not
because I would have liked, for example, to record with my father that
he' s gone and I would have been very upset to have, because
this I commented on in an episode doesn' t do. I don'
t know how much I happened to cross life in a video they had shot
where he appeared. And it is true that in photographs, even videos,
we are more used to seeing people who are no longer there, but listening
to them. No And if I just got goose bumps, listen to him
say three words in that video. It was like my father' s voice
if I had an episode, not of three words, but of an hour
talking to him. It' s a legacy and more if they have fifty
- so many episodes, as is your case now. Imagine leaving a legacy
of hundreds of chapters because you forget when people are gone, because we all
die. It' s something we sometimes forget. But it happens every day
all over the world. It blurs the image, blurs its voice and photos.
We usually have and videos. Now that we all have a smartphone,
we can have, but this voice so recorded with a good quality micro and
I have archived on my website all the podcasts I do. Forgive me in
your one is that this thing I want to do in your chapter puts a
latte on me a coke. Please, thank you. It just had to
be done. It had to be done in this episode, because I have
compiled on my website all the episodes I do on my podcast and all those
who invite me, because it is like my story, my evolution. You
can see all the podcasts I' ve gone to, the one I recorded
on the first anniversary, the one I recorded on the second, the ones
I' ve been invited to. My evolution as an entrepreneur, my evolution
as a podcaster, as a person is fascinating. The human being. It
' s fascinating to me. It' s the best thing to live for.
Above all, listening to you tell yourself, because this is the same
thing if you probably put yourself on now that this is something we all hate.
If you start listening to your first chapter, say oh no that I
don' t like it, but it' s very nice to go back
to that step three years ago in your case, and say look where I
was and look where I am now, because I must be a rare sight
because I like to look back because I' m or. Yeah, but
listen to you Yeah, yeah, yeah, I' m so grateful to
the sout of the past Well, decide why I was scared to death.
I' m gonna get excited. She was scared to death. She felt
very small and even in her best dreams she didn' t think she could
get here. Then I have everything published. The episodes I misrecorded some that
I had to rerecord. I have everything published and I have a podcast producer
who sometimes my husband and tells me he hears maybe something and I say no.
Don' t look at me That happens to me No, no,
no, I' m who I am for episode one, episode two,
episode three, episode four, and, in fact, episode Borja, episode
forty- three. I didn' t have a very good connection to the
Internet and he' s heard some regular moments and he cuts a word and
I said leave it, I record it again and I say because I don
' t leave it, because this happens to the veterans, it happens to
the beginners. It can happen to you at any time and is part of
the learning, because that day there was no good Internet connection and it was
not recorded in the episode. But it' s a super nice episode in
which Borja tells us a lot of very interesting things about his cellar and his
story and I don' t care about my back. On the contrary,
I like to look back and gratefully, because even in my best dreams I
would not have thought that I would be here today. In fact, in
a I don' t know what to call it, because it' s
a podcast that Maria Macias gravels, uploads it to YouTube. It' s
called a toilet journal and she asked me if I was the professional I thought
I was going to be and my answer was no, that it was much
better. You know, I didn' t think I was gonna be the
professional I am, and I guess in the future, because something else I
' ll learn and something else I' ll get better. No, man,
okay, you' ve been here three years, but how many are
ahead of you? Yeah, that' s what you have to say.
Look, I' m going to tell you one thing I haven' t
told anyone I just told Jacqueline bye She' s the only person I told.
In December I was about to close my podcast What you tell me in
December I was very exhausted because in two thousand twenty- three I trained as
coach I rode the producer. I worked a huge amount of hours. I
was very little with my family and well, apart from a personal process that
we are living in the family that has us a little absorbed, it was,
I arrived exhausted. I had ten days in bed, I took the
holidays in zero nonsense and I was ten days sick in bed and I thought
it wasn' t worth it, I' m going to leave everything.
I was all January pulling the fridge off what I had on tape and asking
myself whether to continue or not. Very tired with a lot of anxiety,
falling asleep for a few hours and I was about to leave them. The
first time it happened to me and I thought how your dreams could turn into
a nightmare, a burden. Not good. Finally, in February I started
working less hours of January I worked less hours. I also released the coaching
project that I wanted to launch and then released it a little bit because it
didn' t all arrive. I re- recorded I focused a little more
on the guests and I' m still here. But, well, I
had a pretty, pretty big crisis. I was even thinking about going back
to work on behalf of others, with good with a person who has a
common project there, and I was thinking about raising them or going back to
the other person' s account because I couldn' t with anxiety, I
couldn' t with tiredness. I felt like I didn' t have any
more energy, because this consumes a lot of energy and I wanted to recover
my free time because I didn' t have it this first quarter being crazy
with a lot of travel, events and work. But, well, I
hope in April I' ll get my rest time back a little bit longer
because I' m really running out of two thousand twenty- three. It
' s just that we were talking at the beginning of the ideal. Or
nice that not everyone is worth, but this is just as realistic, that
there are more, much more complicated streaks. Thank you, thank you very
much. Here come our coffees and coke. Well, now we' ll
talk about the cafes and your podcast, but I didn' t want to
let this go There are moments. I don' t know if bad is
the word bad is the word, but complicated. It is a roller coaster,
both economically and at work, and in the tired and in the personal.
Like me, there are weeks I have a little program that is to
check out hechet, like you said before, and the first check I have
every Monday is to check everything I have this week and programming. And there
are weeks that I see and say this week gets complicated. There' s
something else coming in that' s still making it more difficult for me.
But there are weeks like this, for example, that I skipped the check
to talk to SEU and call a coworking session or a place to book us
at a table, which is where we are now sitting. And this week
he started saying I have a lot of work, but on Wednesday I have
a hole and this is really work in my case, but it' s
a job, a little bit nicer that I' ve been happy with the
week and the weeks that I' m complicated with, which I say is
yesterday, for example, I ended up at midnight editing a few things,
but the weeks I say or this week is complicated. I haven' t
been able to see my family since I quit work. I take my daughters
and I pick up my daughters every day, and some father will say fuck
what a pain in the ass, take your daughters to school every day and
pick them up or some mother, for surely many more mothers than fathers.
But for me that' s something that I, I couldn' t enjoy
as a kid. For me it' s a luxury that has given me
my job and every time I finish up to a thousand of work and I
think tomorrow I have to get up early, but I' m going to
start the day taking my daughters to school and then the day will come very
hard or very hard times, like the ones you say. You N had
something like that, not in January, but in November. Luckily, I
still have the beginner' s spirits. He' s gonna say well,
this is nothing. Jorge, he' ll be here in bad times or
hard times. But I' m telling you about before. You' re
not alone, you won' t be, and those times we' ve
spent all and maybe, the rest you can close or park it, but
few don' t leave it because if the podcast has done you so well,
surely if you close it, that decision tastes very bad. Then you
just have to listen to your special chapters with your friends, with your daughter,
to remember that, maybe you don' t have to close it,
but park it, spend your time leaving it, rest you notice that in
this podcast, being a daily podcast, it is very, very, very
sacrificed and I have to force myself to stop because I ended up saturated.
I have two hundred chapters a year and I don' t do one more,
because I know I' m saturated and I' m looking forward to
taking the summer or Easter holidays. But when that time comes that I say
oh come up to September, it lasts a day or two a day or
two. I already want to re- record, but I have to force
myself, so if you need to stop it or better say pause it,
but don' t abandon it other projects maybe. Hey, I' m
not in there anymore. But what the podcast is that a little bit ago
give it the time it takes to relax it and if you need it,
it' s better to start another one. But I think the active podcast,
the podcasting to you works very well. Yeah, it literally changes my
life. That same word I say to the listeners in comments every time I
say it and it' s one of the things I like most about my
work when I record podcasts, because that' s the same thing you download
this chapter and that same thing you just said you put it to yourself when
you think about closing it. Yeah, the thing is, I' m
not afraid to close stages either. I think it' s one thing we
don' t know how to do and sometimes when things are born and die
and maybe it' s time for them to be over and nothing happens.
It' s fine as it is and I was at that point. I
mean, he gave it to me, everything, he changed me as a
person and as a professional, but I can' t do it anymore.
I can' t do it anymore. I' m gonna let him go.
Fortunately, I had some fridge and I was pulling and well, now
I have returned with great enthusiasm with very interesting people and sometimes good happens to
all of us, because you have a bad season, you have a bad
day. I, personally, as an entrepreneur, am very tired of seeing
these four- hour, winning workers. I do not know how many thousands
of euros and men in the go BORGINI. So whenever I can teach the
other side, I don' t mean I have a lot of positive things,
but there are also things that are more negative, just like when you
work for someone else, you have a lot of positive things, but you
have others that are negative. I mean, in this life it' s
all about choosing and the way you go you' re gonna have good things
and bad things or less good things, whatever you want to call them.
We must accept the most complicated parts and enjoy the most beneficial ones. But,
well, I just wanted to comment on it because I' ve never
told it before and I in my podcasts give all the prominence to the person
who comes, although it' s true that I tell things about myself,
because sometimes it' s like it comes to the case. But I call
them flaming protagonists for something, because I want them to shine, to enjoy
that the other person knows her if she has a book that knows what the
book is about. If you have something that makes you special, then connect
with that special part, then I retire. I don' t stay in
the background. But today that I am on the other side of the microphone,
with everything to give us a coffee, because I wanted to share it,
because it is the dark side of life. It exists and I am
a very cheerful woman, very vitalist, very optimistic and very enjoying. But,
well, those parts are there, on the dark side of life and
of the podcast and podcasting itself, because even though your episodes last about an
hour, we could say how many hours they take you to work, because
look, I usually carry a script and I like that the person feels that
he is talking to someone who has bothered to meet him, because you also
get a lot more fun and more juice from that person. If you know
her a little bit more, then well you have to contact her. Well
the preproduction part, then contact her, look for a day to see you,
first think who you want, come, evaluate if it is aligned with
your personal and company and purpose values. Not that I did this before,
it does and unless, but now I do it more, because that'
s writing a script I like to make a special presentation that reflects a little
bit of the person who' s on the podcast that day. Then you
have to record it, you have to edit it, you have to upload
it. I do a custom cover because I like to have a picture of
the person coming, because it' s his episode. Then you have on
the cover your photo is named after you and it is personalized 100% each
one of them and then our customers listen to it so that they see yes
the work to be done. No, I' ll be on tape and
that' s it in a little while. No. No, no,
and I like to write a nice text. It seems to use as the
basis for the presentation and then add a little bit of what we talked about
on the podcast. No and I publish it on networks I publish on it.
Well, I upload the Aibox episodes. I' m thinking of moving
to Spotify, but for the moment I' m raising it to eBox.
Then you have to upload it, you have to schedule it and well,
there' s a lot of work behind it and episodes that aren' t
as fine as you wouldn' t like and you have to work it a
little more. Not a few months ago, I started collaborating with a girl
who is a virtual assistant and is helping me edit some podcasts both mine and
customers, because I was no longer in the production company. His name is
Patre. I send you a kiss from here if you listen to us,
because this is a service that I see a lot in some virtual assists.
Lately I say Mira it seems a lie that she sees it not the production,
but the editing of podcast It is delegated and offered also by virtual assistants,
because I is the part that I thought I could begin to delegate.
And well, we had a training process so that she would see, well,
then, learn a little more about the knowledge that she already had and
see a little, because the style of what she wanted. I told the
customers he' s editing the podcasts to let them know, even though I
check, monitor, and don' t deliver anything to the final client without
having listened to him and sometimes doing some things properly, but I had to
let go and it was one of the decisions I made in December because I
couldn' t do it anymore. She and I met in the virtual assistant
course of being older. We were in the same master Mind. We'
ve always understood each other very well and she' s a lovely, super
- intelligent working woman, because put her captur also how many praises tonces,
good words you give to the people of Lie and well we' re working
together and we' ve been a few months, but it' s an
essential part of my mental health right now and that I' m able to
continue doing my podcast if I go ahead with the producer. Without her,
I couldn' t do it right now, because listen, I congratulate her,
too, for agreeing with you and having a job that I had dreamed
of. Well, now I can brag about him, but years ago I
would dream about having a job. So, I want to ask you about
your recipe. It' s just that I' ve been keeping an eye
on it. In fact, I think we talked about it when you caught
the crofonding you sponda in Madrid. The recipe you talked to your daughter about
what doggies are like, dog dogs. What' s with the perruquis.
Or I like to smile at you. Perrukis are hot dogs, but I
made homemade ones. I love having a house full of people. I lived
it in my little house because my parents were two great hosts. My mother,
especially that she was the one who came up with the most, not
without taking away my father' s merit, who lit the barbecue. But
my mother loves having people at little ones' house. We were very much
with my grandparents, my uncles, my cousins, and I consider myself a
great hostess. Sometimes it' s hard for us to say nice words to
ourselves, but I' m changing that language and I' m telling it
to myself and one of my dreams is to have a big house so I
can make meals with a lot of people, without having to move anything or
sofas. And so because in my house now I can invite people to eat,
but I have to be moving couches. And so, and it'
s like one of my dreams was not a big house where I can welcome
people and do parties and celebrations, sometimes for motive and other times for the
simple celebration of being alive and being together. And I remember some birthdays my
parents were organizing when I was a teenager. They no longer had the control
of birthday parties because it wasn' t the whole thing that little friends came
home and put the sandwiches and the coke on you. And then my parents
had a big house with a farm and during all my adolescence I would do
the envied birthdays of all my friends. My parents left the house for us,
we all ate together and we spent the whole afternoon playing, we had
a basket, we had a big farm and then I invited all my friends
from the basketball team and my other gang that I had in high school and
we got together at best there fifteen or twenty people and we spent a day
that was like the day we didn' t. So that' s very
etched to me. I' m grateful to my parents for putting all the
means in place for that to happen. And it' s one thing I
' d like to give my kids. So, my house is always open
for my children and my children' s friends. And my daughter did birthdays
and invited her friends to dinner and made them pizza, but there was a
guy who didn' t like pizza. Then it occurred to me to make
hot dogs. Then I made the dough. It' s a lump I
make the Thermomix, which I hate because it' s super sticky and very
hard to work, but it was like super mythical. It wasn' t
Emma' s birthday and there was pizza and perrukis and, in fact,
in the episode I recorded with my daughter for the second anniversary, one of
the guys who came home to enjoy those birthday parties My daughter asked her friends
to send us questions for the episode and contacted some friends. Also with some
friends of mine and it was super nice not to see that they had left
that memory that they already have, because when we recorded that episode they would
be twenty- two or twenty- three years old and had that memory of
their childhood. And that memory is propitiated by us in our home. So,
to me that' s like wow and my son, the little one,
loves pajamas parties. Then for her birthday. We' ve been having
a slumber party for quite a few years now. Their friends come to dinner,
they stay to sleep, sometimes they stay to eat also good, it
depends on the commitments they have and it is something very special for them.
And every year I take a picture of them with a polar camera today so
they already know they have to take six or seven pictures. It depends on
those who come, because the same people always come and each year they take
their polaroid photo and I have them put my son on a shelf and it
is super pretty. Every time I walk into my son' s room,
I see him and it' s I don' t know how to create
those memories, not those ties. For them it is super special and now
they move mattresses, move pillows and make in their bed. They come in
sleeping bags. But when they were little, it was a great responsibility to
have them at home, to ride them all you know how to move the
living room once again to fit everyone. And it' s something that I
' m very proud of that my children feel like they have a home to
go back to and a mother who loves them and wants them to be happy
and have beautiful memories of life. Not that in the end is what you
take and notice the memory of the nonsense, of a nonsense for me to
ask you the recipe of a hot dog, the memory you created and transmit
it, because I wouldn' t know this story if it weren' t,
because you told it to your daughter on your podcast. Yeah, and
now in mine I don' t want to say goodbye without asking you two
questions that I stole from you, but I' ve adapted them a little
bit to my podcast. I think I already know where you' re going
with who you' d record a podcast Bufff with a lot of people.
It' s the same way your guests feel. Yeah, they always tell
me it' s the hardest question look. The first person to come to
my mind was Victor Coopers. I would also like to record with Enrique Sánchez
because I admire him very much and I love everything he created and did his
training last year and I don' t know many people. I think,
like I tell you, everyone has a podcast or several, but I don
' t know. Victor Coopers came to my head. I went with my
daughter to watch it live in Coruña, 60 kilometers from the city where we
live, because, well, it was also a legacy that wanted to leave
my daughter the talent matters, which is one of the things you always say,
Victor Coopers, how you do things matters your abilities, obviously, can
determine many things of your life, but in the end, your attitude is
the one that multiplies. Not then, well, I thought it was a
nice courage to pass it on to my daughter at a time when she was,
well, making the decision of which career to choose from, because I
believe that trusting in yourself and your values and abilities, because it is never
more important that time. How important it is and how good it is for
someone to support you, as you said with your daughter, for someone to
let you make the decision, but to accompany you and back you up to
put a hand on your back. Yeah, yeah, you? You'
re going on, you? You' re still going on? I'
m here, I' m here. He feels like I' m here,
but the road marks him. You' re the hardest thing to be
a mother. For me, I think children have to fall, they have
to stumble, they have to be wrong and they have to be stained.
It' s the only way you learn. I in my life have learned
much more from bad times than from good ones. So, as a mother,
it' s very hard to see that they' re going to fall
and let them fall, but it' s the only way they' re
going to learn. And I, my children, want you to have two
things. I want them to have roots, to know that behind them are
being raised by people who love them and that they are going to do everything
so that they are well and have the life of their dreams. But I
also want to give them rooms, I want them to smell, I want
them to live, they to dream, they to experience and if they have
to go away than as a mother, I think that' s what it
would cost me the most if others left. They have to make their way,
they have to live their life, they have to enjoy, because this
lasts three TV news, eyelashes a little strong and it' s been a
year. Now, instead of telling you to put it on yourself, someone
' s gonna put it on my girlfriend better so she hears this thing you
say they have to fall, they have to be wrong. There are times
when she' s coming out of the house, you haven' t taken
her backpack, I say daigua don' t take the cronbook or the book
of whatever it is that she gets a foul scolding at school, because she
' s the one who has to realize that she hasn' t taken the
cronco or the book. You can' t go, as a mother,
tell her every day and one day she has to go without a sandwich and
fuck her and she' s in the snack without a sandwich and say oh
my mother hasn' t made me local. It' s not that it
' s you, that you' re already an age, that you have
to take your sandwich. My children, since they were quite young, did
basic housework for which they were prepared. They made, of course, their
backpacks to go to the cool and their suitcases to go over the weekend to
see the grandparents and has taught them to cook both, which is one thing
that when my daughter started college. He thanked me very much and it is
true that some weekend they have left without underwear or have not worn socks.
Or it' s the only way to learn. So we can' t
pretend that when they grow up they' re autonomous, they' re demanding
and fighting for their dreams. If you since you' re little, they
' re telling you how to do it, what to do, when and
how. Those who make the bed and look bad are the same as cooking
and burning the egg. It' s okay. They are learning and for
me it is a value as a mother that the parents of my children share
and good with my daughter Manayor, who is twenty- three years old,
but has not gone wrong in this one go. Okay, that' s
good. And last question, with whom did he record this last podcast?
Yeah, can you count? Yeah, can you count the last podcast?
I recorded it with Beatriz Castellanos. She is a girl who is a training
lawyer, who worked for many years on issues related to gender- based violence
and a year ago she started and we contacted because she is. We got
in touch Paloma growing up your Coco, who was the sponsor of the pontais.
Yes, yes, a little dream for her, because I and Paloma
agreed on a formation and well, we have met several times and we have
a very good relationship. And she told me that Beatriz Castellan was looking for
us well, that she had published a book called cosmofeminism and that good that
I was interested to come to my podcast and I would be interested then nothing.
I read the book Beatriz sent me and the subject seemed very interesting,
because it is a trilogy of moments alone. It is published the first book
that is like past, present and future of women in space no. And,
well, I read the book, I liked it and nothing. He
came to the podcast and we recorded it. It' ll be the next
one to be published. This is March, because it will be published by
the end of March. He' s already got it edited and almost when
this chapter comes out. Well, I told you it was the last question,
but I lied to you. You have already invited or invited for a
guest or guest for the May pon niit, because yes, three days ago,
when we spoke, I told you no and you want to tell.
That' s another question, but, well, look, I' m
gonna tell you and I' m gonna ask her if I can tell or
not. Okay, well, that' s how we do it. You
think, I' ll tell you. If she leaves me or we publish
it, yes, she tells me that better later, because we wait for
each other is good, because my guest is Yolanda Cambra. She' s
the first customer I trust. She is a mentor for entrepreneur entrepreneurs and has
been my covert mentor and trusted me before myself, and I was very excited
that we shared stage in the spontnightes. She is becoming a lecturer and on
25 May it will be a conference in Madrid for personal development and I was
very excited that it was her. It couldn' t be because of a
professional theme that matched her that weekend, but well, for different circumstances,
the stars finally lined up and it' s going to be her. And
I' m very excited because, besides, the Pondiis. My husband'
s coming, he' s going to open my kids, my mother'
s coming. I' m very excited that my mother lives that moment and
I' m going to like to put those two worlds together, to put
my family together with this professional part that has so absorbed me over the last
few months and my family has been like what they say when it' s
like a collateral side effect. They' ve suffered collateral damage from my change
of profession, because now I' m less time with them and well,
life has changed us a little bit. Then I am very excited to bring
my family together, with my most professional part, and to have the podcast
live. They already came, my mother, no, but my children and
my husband already came to the podcast that recorded live in Milladoiran to where I
live. And now I' m very excited that you know each other,
because of course, I' m talking about each other, about each other.
And that day, on the pinches we' ll take later, I
hope you can spend a little while together, that you can meet. And
it' s like a circle coming together, two parts of a circle coming
together. And Holland is a very important person to me. It' s
been a long time since I wanted to record an episode with her, but
I felt like it was something special, something different. Not like giving her
a gift, a tribute, and I think the pont Nights is the best
gift I can give to her and to my own mother, what a responsibility
you' ve passed on to me right now. It' s gonna be
a super special day. I' m afraid something' s going wrong,
but we' ll try not to. Well that everyone who is listening to
this, if you want to meet with your ticket already a few days ago,
that I am putting the link in the notes of the episode that now
works already, you can buy them now yes and that I hope to see
you all next May 10 in the street the cicarrias number six of Madrid,
in the Artist and Metropol. With this we will meet for a live and
live coffee to celebrate the third anniversary, third, fourth, third, third
anniversary of your podcast. On one of those special days for you, it
' s been a real pleasure to have you on the other side of the
microphone. Thank you very much for inviting me and for giving me this possibility.
It' s been a pleasure for me too, and now we say
goodbye and go back to that place where you are right now, across the microphone,