So now we're gonna be talking about this article that from rightwingwatch dot coms,
written by Peter Montgomery and came out in June fifteenth year. The headline is
the ABC's of Moms for Liberty Summit speak authoritarianism, bigotry, censorship, disinformation,
extreamism, you know the role. So so basically, this group Moms
for Liberty is having a summit meeting. It's like a convention type of thing
where they're gonna have speakworth and they have quite the list speaker to like Donald
Trump, Ronda Santis, Nicky Hailey, Dennis Prager, Praiger, you fame,
Tim Barton, etc. Etc. But who are the Moms for Liberty?
Right? It sounds like a good thing. But here's the description and
the opening paragraph. Artist says, Moms for Liberty, a group that made
its name opposing public health measures in schools and quickly moved on to censorship school
board takeover, has embraced a hard edge political role on the right wing of
the Republican Party. It's National Joyful Warriors Summit later this month features politicians,
pundits named here, and political activists promoting authoritarian attacks on freedom to read,
vicious anti LGBT smears, vaccine disformation, election denialism. Boy, the full
the full gamut there now, But I wanted to get the flip side.
So I went to the Moms for Liberty dot org webbed and I looked up
and this is from there their own self description. They call themselves Moms for
Liberty Welcome all that have a desire to stand up for parental right at all
levels of Governmentary what that means, but it sounds very good, right.
Our founders are Tiffany and Tina, moms on a mission to stoke the fires
of liberty. As former school board members, they witness how shortsighted and destructive
policies directly hurt children and family. Now they are using their firsthand knowledge and
experience to nite parents who are ready to fight those that stand in the way
of liberty. We don't want people standing in the way of liberty. This
sounds like quite a pro choice, pro gender equality. Boy, they sound
like they're just so inclusive. What where should we start? First? On
the theo? What do you think you know? When I hear that a
group is led by or founded by what was a Tina and Tiffany, Tina
and Tiffany Moina. You couldn't have two more wholesome mom names right there?
You know it? All I could think of is you can't sit at our
lunch table. But but regardless of that, um, you know, it's
it's interesting like if you read the article and you can actually see what some
of the different attendee speakers said during their um you know, talks, if
you want to put it that way. UM, it was quite interesting to
say in the least. Um, But I wanted to pose to you all
with this being an election year, Uh, this Summers is hosting people,
as you said, Scott, like Trump, Nicky Haley, Ron de Santist,
Dennis Praeger, Um, what m are is the biggest challenge with these
type of people that's being platform that our country, that the United States itself
is facing. I would love to get the international point of view. Tell
you what are you? What are you thinking? When you hear that question.
I've said it before that you say scares me. I'm scared as hell.
So yeah, I have this. I have finally decided I'm not going
to in in the USA if and if you pay me. I mean,
when you have a group of people with a group that was organized in order
to fight the response to the COVID pandemic. So these people were out there
saying, we don't believe in this in this decision is giving everybody around us
and we should have the right troup to make our children sick and risk the
life of teachers. And when those people are here by politicians and politicians actually
give them reasons to be right, it really scares me. I mean,
it's like the whole country's going I don't want to use the words not saying,
but I'm extremely worried, guys. I mean politicians openly supporting group that
are against the choice, the freedom of choice, that are against you know,
the basic rights of people. As you mentioned, they are one with
those groups that are smerroring LGBTQ people and their allies. They don't want children
to discover things about themselves. They want to stop sexual education at schools,
and they are against vaccines. I mean, they are against the basic protection
that we have against thesease. It's extremely scary. It's extremely scary, and
I can see how the USA is going backwards in time and they are slowly
bringing the dark ages once again. It's scary a scale, guys, I'm
scared about what it's happening over there. Well, we become younger as the
United States steps back the clock, right, does that mean the rest of
us, some of us, are going to get younger over time? Is
that? Does that be awesome? Like reverse Benjamin Button? Exactly? Wait?
Is that? Yeah? Yep? Just like that? What do you
think? What are your thoughts? Glan? When I was as scared initially?
You know, when I first heard about this group, I was thinking,
know what a be nine name? It's a good name, And after
closer look, I had to say that I think the only reason they got
the name is braindebt extremist dot org was already taken. You know, Jesus
Christ, two popsicle sticks, and soil depends. They used to Hitler quote
on their website. There was in a section with its own colors and fonts,
but they say nothing to see here. You're overreacting and taking it out
of context. I do think the context is pretty clear. We have a
group of radicalized moms quoting Hitlers. He alone, who owns the youth,
gains the future while trying to control school curriculum. Can't make this shit up.
And of course you mentioned speakers. Cynthia ed Kelly's a school board member
in Charleston, South Carolina. He gave a speech at one of their Moms
for Hate, Moms for Liberty event. He actually said that he would bring
a gun to the house of a transgender student if his child was their student.
Now he still has his job. The transgender teacher was put on administrative
league. Come on, now, you know they've worked hard to ban things
and classrooms topic they don't like, thedoctrinate the whole gauntlet of phrases for every
flavor of bigotry. It's like a delirious ai support, you know, just
bouting out the worst choice is possible. But you know, last time I
was on here, we discussed uh, you know, education, and here
we are again. You mentioned it earlier. This indoctrination that they're trying to
do to them. Education is a threat. Miss education is the tool.
They're just taking that quick Hitler quote to heart and running with it. So
you know, at the end of it, it's cafeteria bigotry and hate for
all, well maybe not everybody, just who they decided us well speaking of
cafeterias, and I'm glad, I'm glad you you kind of wit towards education.
And I know, Scott, you are an educator, And um,
do you think that when you hear about some of these people who are superintendent
of school boards? And I think that even one of the women that were
platform was a superintendent in the South Carolina. I believe her name was Ellen
Weaver. She got her she supposed in order for you to have that position,
you're supposed to have a master's degree according to that state's um criteria.
She has an associate's degree according to the article from Bob Jones University. Because
we know when you go to Bob Jones University, that qualifies you for everything.
It totally does you know, look it up, but you know,
but I'm but I'm curious to know, you know, especially from a person
who's in the phrase right now. Um, when you think of like some
of the things that they're saying, like anti woke education, UM, don't
say gay, and especially you know, we can't talk about certain things inside
the classroom, and and they're and they're constantly pushing these particular ideologies like history
eraser, CRT bad, Wolke is bad or whatever. Do you think that
this is just um, the beginning of you know what maybe like this particular
group wants to do, or do you feel that there's going to be or
do you look at a large threat towards education from Christian nationalists? Um,
you know, I think it's a it could go both ways, right,
It's it's hard to say, and so yes and no, I suppose it
could be my answer. We do know that people that are in power,
they want to stay in power, and they're going to use that power to
keep more power, right, And so I think that's what it boils down
to. Um. If but if an educated populace gets in the way,
then that's got to go. Right. It's not about um, you know,
I would call myself aggressive, and so I'm about progression society, the
advancement of the society, improvement of society. But if some of those things
get in the way, then they got to go. So so education per
se, I don't think is necessarily something that that is an end goal for
them. I think it's just part of how it's how it turns out.
So if an edge, like I said, if education gets in the way,
that's got to go. If respecting people that are different from you undermines
their talking points. That's got to go. The rational take on religion,
ghosts, magic, afterlife, whatever. If that's hampering your control, then
that's got to go. So you know, I think that it's about maintaining
berries. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. I think that they
are specifically targeting education. I think it's more collateral damage. What was your
comic line? You know? One thing that I thought about is they fucking
offered money to try to catch school teachers breaking their rules. There there are
guidelines. I mean, this isn't a chilling effect. This is this is
an icing effect, threatening librarians. This is a whole new ball game.
This isn't you know, let's change the rules and keep books out of schools.
That's even if we keep them out of schools, it boils down to
we're going to make you think just like a And that's it. That's the
bottom line. Have any of you tail I'm curious to know. Um,
have you ever even heard of the term woke before we actually started covering some
of these particular stories. Oh yeah, don't. Here we have the scenonym
which is which comes from progressive. Yeah, something who wants to go through
progress? Um, Uh yeah, well that's that's a Spanish version, and
it's so the Spanish equivalent for walk, Is that what you're saying? Yeah,
but you know who goes in favor of progress? So so progressing in
English? And it's it's always weird for me when people uses that as an
insult because they are literally saying, oh, yeah, how do you dy're
wanting the same right for people? How do you want to make the society
better? How how do you dare asking for women having the same rights that
men for no discrimination? And you are against you know, anything that's that
we should be against, And it's it's creepy and it's weird. And I
know that you're going to say that I'm obsessed. But for me, because
I always talk about the helms of religion, come and I have if I
if you see me in TikTok as TikTok, I'm always talking about the halms
of religion. No, guys, well no you don't whatever. Lets I
pray for you, Thank you, sir, Thank you so much. Right
here we have the perfect example of what religion does to people. And I'm
sure you're all familiar with the simpsoms I have quoted them several times before.
And this group of women is the perfect example of have you seen this meme
of the Reverend love Joy's wife who screaming, please think of the children?
Or why do you think who would think of the would think about the children?
They are this guy and they base all their hatred and all the how
to call it besides hatred is going against the advancement of progress on society on
the Bible and what their religion is telling them to you. Religion tells them,
no, you don't need medicine. You have the blood of Jesus,
because Jesus said that things that enter your body don't harm your body. It's
what comes out of it. Because Jesus didn't know what viruses or bacterias were
or no comeing on. God created men male and female. So what is
this thing of people discovering their own sexuality? And the Bible actually didn't originally
the original word is not against homosexuality, but it's about an older person having
intercourse with a very very young child. Because back at the time, I
think too, like you were an adult already, so imagine how young it
was. And that is what was being condemned. But when they translated the
Bible to kings James, it became homosexuality, and now all these believers hate
people who are not straight. Almost again, another of the many harms of
the Bible, not the Bible, of religion in general, because it's not
only the Bible, it's many religions that do the same. And it's it's
it's quite sad, it's it's but yeah, let see the harms of religions
there. Well, I was gonna say, like when I was listening to
you Tail, especially when you started talking about like when we first had like
the Council of Nicea and these whole and we start to do like the translations
of the translations of the copy of the copy of the copy, to the
point where different scribes were putting in their own bends on certain scriptures to fit
their narrative. And and you know, every time that I ever heard a
theologian who actually talks about the Bible per se in the history of how we
got our Bible, now, how we got the Bible now, it was
always um about propagating a particular agenda. And when I see this particular summit
and like some of the different things that was being said, I think that
one of my favorites was Nicki Haley saying that what did she say? She
says some mess about like, um, the wokeism is like this. Yeah.
Yeah, she was talking about like how like some people would want to
there was like a more suicide because of because of like different like trans agenda
is being pushed and and and and also you know when she was even asked
about and she said that after she was asked, what does woke me?
And you know she always equivalates, equivocates it to something like terrible concerning well,
you know, trans people were killing themselves more because these woke ideologies are
being pushed on them or some some something that's like that. And and you
know Rond de Santis, you know, basically do the same thing. It
was just one horrible thing, um after another after another after another for just
about every speaker that got up. And you can't help but say that this
is an agenda, and the agenda, as as all of you all eloquently
put it is really just to you know, stay in power. Um.
But I know that you wanted to add a little something because I can tell
through your car to glasses tail that you have something else to add. It
really is spark call in the catchlights, So go ahead. Yeah, no,
I just wanted to add something. I actually wanted to quote Da Ray,
who I'm sure you all know when when I was talking with him,
we talked about his book The God Virus, and he explained how religion always
needs an enemy, and for a long time, the most common thing for
us has been sexualogy, and being homosexual has been so extremely common that we
have had it through all our history. It's part of nature, it's all
over us, it's all around us. And as time started to change,
religion realized that homosexuals are being accepted. But they can't lose their enemy.
They can't lose their grip on society. So now they are attacking this idea
of accepting each other and all that means inclusion, all that means stopping discrimination.
It's turning into their enemy. So they are becoming like a force of
discrimination in the world because they always need an enemy to fight and to say
no. It's a word against us. Is we the few chosen one against
the rest of the world that is evil and wants to destroy the things that
there are created. And I think that is one of the biggest risks of
your country right now, guys. So yeah, that's why I wanted to
There are definitely risks that um that we are facing right now. I more
so, I don't know if you can really call them risks, but they're
definitely political threats. So even with all that being said, Glenn, what
what what do we do like as as an electorate, as as people who
are seeing these um, these things that's coming down the pipeline it is you
know, like I said, it's it's an election year. Um. You
know, I'm wondering, like, what are some of the things that we
can do them um itself in order for us to combat some of these issues
that we're dealing with or this rhetoric or propaganda that's being pushed on us by
Christian nationalists. You know. The unfortunately, this problem has been going for
a long time, and having been part of it in the very early nineties,
being familiar with those roots, it's it's something that isn't new and it's
not going to go away. But I think that one thing is stopping the
comfort zone that goes with people who spew sick ideas. And I'm not talking
about you know, people who are standing up on talking heads on TV or
something like that. But so many times you run across people in daily life,
definitely here in Texas, where people think nothing of saying the absolutely most
horrible thing. And I think it's just standing up and saying no, that's
not except starting right there, because we're not going to change the people who
are trying to make get campaign funds and get elected. They're going to do
what they do as long as they think it's going to work. They're not
going to change the people around them. Quit buying the Yeah what about you,
Scott, what are you going to add to that? Yeah? You
know, so I agree and completely with everything Finel just said. There,
we got to stand up and say no. We've talked about this kind of
thing on this show quite a bit about how important it is to get out
and vote, make your voice known, make sure that you're not being quiet
here. Um, but sometimes that can be difficult to see resulting. And
that's kind of the big drawback. What is my vote? You know?
And but we know we know that votes do make a different cumulation of small
contribution by many many people that can make to big. But I think it's
important as well, maybe even more important that we that we talk to people,
talk to people that are not like us, talk to people that hate
your guts. Talk. You know, the more we know about other people,
not only will we learn more about them, but then they'll learn more
about us. And then we can stop treating each other as opponents and as
enemies, as people to overcome and thrown out. We can come to uh,
you know, we start seeing each other as human being. That this
us versus them mentality that us versus them added, we've seen that used as
a barrier for growth. We were talking I was talking about before about how
how people in power want to keep those barriers in place. So one way
that we can on a grassroots, ground level address one of those big bearer
to step over, you know, the bearer step over those divisions, and
that's something that we can have more immediate feedback and it's something that we can
overcome as long as long as within the effort. Yeah, I agree with
that, and even to your point, especially like reaching out and talking to
people who may be different from us. In my research, I was actually
able to find a website from a group that was called Evangelicals for Democracy,
and I just wanted to read a little bit that was on their website.
They said that on we're Christian soldiers marching as to war with the Cross of
Jesus going on. Before Christ, the royal master leads against the foe,
forward into battle, see his banners go. But now a group of right
wing Christian soldiers are are waging a vastly different war. These soldiers, who
are primarily white and represent about twenty percent of the public, believe that the
American name is defined by Christianity and that the government should take active steps to
keep it that way. Thus, their war is to claim the US as
a Christian nation with an official Christian culture. In their worldview, Christians are
America's first citizens and have a presumptive right of dominance in American law and policy.
Already, the influence of Christian nationalism is shaping policies at the state and
local levels, including book bands and a reinterpretation of American history in the school
curricula. But the real threat is what is happening behind the scenes. So
far, these policies represent potential risk to our way of life, but the
danger is real. Christian nationalism is not an idea. The movement has grown
in recent years enlisting angry, aggrieved and militant people now who now use violence
to preserve Christian values. Thus, as Christians and especially as evangelicals, we
cannot sit on the sidelines. We cannot talk of following the Principiae and portray
him with support for or tolerance of extremists. After all, the history of
Christianity from Constantine to the eighteenth century was one of state sponsored coercion and violence.
And I that was very refreshing to actually see from an actual Christian group
that calls themselves democracy Evangelicals for Democracy. Very gutsy, but you know,
I but there are other Christian organizations that are they are like Christians against Christian
nationalism and and other people who happen to still be theists. But believe that
you know, our nation with Christian nationalists at the helm is actually in the
wrong direction. But if you want to actually hear more from us who are
trying to step us in the right direction, please pulack here