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So now we're gonna be talking about
this article that from rightwingwatch dot coms,

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written by Peter Montgomery and came out
in June fifteenth year. The headline is

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the ABC's of Moms for Liberty Summit
speak authoritarianism, bigotry, censorship, disinformation,

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extreamism, you know the role.
So so basically, this group Moms

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for Liberty is having a summit meeting. It's like a convention type of thing

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where they're gonna have speakworth and they
have quite the list speaker to like Donald

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Trump, Ronda Santis, Nicky Hailey, Dennis Prager, Praiger, you fame,

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Tim Barton, etc. Etc.
But who are the Moms for Liberty?

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Right? It sounds like a good
thing. But here's the description and

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the opening paragraph. Artist says,
Moms for Liberty, a group that made

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its name opposing public health measures in
schools and quickly moved on to censorship school

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board takeover, has embraced a hard
edge political role on the right wing of

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the Republican Party. It's National Joyful
Warriors Summit later this month features politicians,

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pundits named here, and political activists
promoting authoritarian attacks on freedom to read,

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vicious anti LGBT smears, vaccine disformation, election denialism. Boy, the full

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the full gamut there now, But
I wanted to get the flip side.

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So I went to the Moms for
Liberty dot org webbed and I looked up

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and this is from there their own
self description. They call themselves Moms for

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Liberty Welcome all that have a desire
to stand up for parental right at all

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levels of Governmentary what that means,
but it sounds very good, right.

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Our founders are Tiffany and Tina,
moms on a mission to stoke the fires

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of liberty. As former school board
members, they witness how shortsighted and destructive

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policies directly hurt children and family.
Now they are using their firsthand knowledge and

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experience to nite parents who are ready
to fight those that stand in the way

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of liberty. We don't want people
standing in the way of liberty. This

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sounds like quite a pro choice,
pro gender equality. Boy, they sound

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like they're just so inclusive. What
where should we start? First? On

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the theo? What do you think
you know? When I hear that a

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group is led by or founded by
what was a Tina and Tiffany, Tina

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and Tiffany Moina. You couldn't have
two more wholesome mom names right there?

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You know it? All I could
think of is you can't sit at our

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lunch table. But but regardless of
that, um, you know, it's

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it's interesting like if you read the
article and you can actually see what some

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of the different attendee speakers said during
their um you know, talks, if

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you want to put it that way. UM, it was quite interesting to

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say in the least. Um,
But I wanted to pose to you all

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with this being an election year,
Uh, this Summers is hosting people,

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as you said, Scott, like
Trump, Nicky Haley, Ron de Santist,

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Dennis Praeger, Um, what m
are is the biggest challenge with these

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type of people that's being platform that
our country, that the United States itself

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is facing. I would love to
get the international point of view. Tell

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you what are you? What are
you thinking? When you hear that question.

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I've said it before that you say
scares me. I'm scared as hell.

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So yeah, I have this.
I have finally decided I'm not going

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to in in the USA if and
if you pay me. I mean,

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when you have a group of people
with a group that was organized in order

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to fight the response to the COVID
pandemic. So these people were out there

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saying, we don't believe in this
in this decision is giving everybody around us

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and we should have the right troup
to make our children sick and risk the

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life of teachers. And when those
people are here by politicians and politicians actually

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give them reasons to be right,
it really scares me. I mean,

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it's like the whole country's going I
don't want to use the words not saying,

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but I'm extremely worried, guys.
I mean politicians openly supporting group that

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are against the choice, the freedom
of choice, that are against you know,

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the basic rights of people. As
you mentioned, they are one with

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those groups that are smerroring LGBTQ people
and their allies. They don't want children

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to discover things about themselves. They
want to stop sexual education at schools,

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and they are against vaccines. I
mean, they are against the basic protection

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that we have against thesease. It's
extremely scary. It's extremely scary, and

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I can see how the USA is
going backwards in time and they are slowly

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bringing the dark ages once again.
It's scary a scale, guys, I'm

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scared about what it's happening over there. Well, we become younger as the

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United States steps back the clock,
right, does that mean the rest of

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us, some of us, are
going to get younger over time? Is

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that? Does that be awesome?
Like reverse Benjamin Button? Exactly? Wait?

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Is that? Yeah? Yep?
Just like that? What do you

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think? What are your thoughts?
Glan? When I was as scared initially?

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You know, when I first heard
about this group, I was thinking,

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know what a be nine name?
It's a good name, And after

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closer look, I had to say
that I think the only reason they got

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the name is braindebt extremist dot org
was already taken. You know, Jesus

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Christ, two popsicle sticks, and
soil depends. They used to Hitler quote

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on their website. There was in
a section with its own colors and fonts,

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but they say nothing to see here. You're overreacting and taking it out

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of context. I do think the
context is pretty clear. We have a

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group of radicalized moms quoting Hitlers.
He alone, who owns the youth,

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gains the future while trying to control
school curriculum. Can't make this shit up.

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And of course you mentioned speakers.
Cynthia ed Kelly's a school board member

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in Charleston, South Carolina. He
gave a speech at one of their Moms

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for Hate, Moms for Liberty event. He actually said that he would bring

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a gun to the house of a
transgender student if his child was their student.

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Now he still has his job.
The transgender teacher was put on administrative

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league. Come on, now,
you know they've worked hard to ban things

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and classrooms topic they don't like,
thedoctrinate the whole gauntlet of phrases for every

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flavor of bigotry. It's like a
delirious ai support, you know, just

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bouting out the worst choice is possible. But you know, last time I

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was on here, we discussed uh, you know, education, and here

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we are again. You mentioned it
earlier. This indoctrination that they're trying to

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do to them. Education is a
threat. Miss education is the tool.

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They're just taking that quick Hitler quote
to heart and running with it. So

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you know, at the end of
it, it's cafeteria bigotry and hate for

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all, well maybe not everybody,
just who they decided us well speaking of

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cafeterias, and I'm glad, I'm
glad you you kind of wit towards education.

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And I know, Scott, you
are an educator, And um,

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do you think that when you hear
about some of these people who are superintendent

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of school boards? And I think
that even one of the women that were

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platform was a superintendent in the South
Carolina. I believe her name was Ellen

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Weaver. She got her she supposed
in order for you to have that position,

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you're supposed to have a master's degree
according to that state's um criteria.

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She has an associate's degree according to
the article from Bob Jones University. Because

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we know when you go to Bob
Jones University, that qualifies you for everything.

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It totally does you know, look
it up, but you know,

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but I'm but I'm curious to know, you know, especially from a person

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who's in the phrase right now.
Um, when you think of like some

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of the things that they're saying,
like anti woke education, UM, don't

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say gay, and especially you know, we can't talk about certain things inside

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the classroom, and and they're and
they're constantly pushing these particular ideologies like history

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eraser, CRT bad, Wolke is
bad or whatever. Do you think that

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this is just um, the beginning
of you know what maybe like this particular

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group wants to do, or do
you feel that there's going to be or

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do you look at a large threat
towards education from Christian nationalists? Um,

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you know, I think it's a
it could go both ways, right,

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It's it's hard to say, and
so yes and no, I suppose it

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could be my answer. We do
know that people that are in power,

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they want to stay in power,
and they're going to use that power to

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keep more power, right, And
so I think that's what it boils down

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to. Um. If but if
an educated populace gets in the way,

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then that's got to go. Right. It's not about um, you know,

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I would call myself aggressive, and
so I'm about progression society, the

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advancement of the society, improvement of
society. But if some of those things

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get in the way, then they
got to go. So so education per

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se, I don't think is necessarily
something that that is an end goal for

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them. I think it's just part
of how it's how it turns out.

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So if an edge, like I
said, if education gets in the way,

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that's got to go. If respecting
people that are different from you undermines

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their talking points. That's got to
go. The rational take on religion,

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ghosts, magic, afterlife, whatever. If that's hampering your control, then

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that's got to go. So you
know, I think that it's about maintaining

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berries. So I wouldn't. I
wouldn't say that. I think that they

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are specifically targeting education. I think
it's more collateral damage. What was your

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comic line? You know? One
thing that I thought about is they fucking

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offered money to try to catch school
teachers breaking their rules. There there are

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guidelines. I mean, this isn't
a chilling effect. This is this is

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an icing effect, threatening librarians.
This is a whole new ball game.

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This isn't you know, let's change
the rules and keep books out of schools.

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That's even if we keep them out
of schools, it boils down to

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we're going to make you think just
like a And that's it. That's the

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bottom line. Have any of you
tail I'm curious to know. Um,

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have you ever even heard of the
term woke before we actually started covering some

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of these particular stories. Oh yeah, don't. Here we have the scenonym

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which is which comes from progressive.
Yeah, something who wants to go through

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progress? Um, Uh yeah,
well that's that's a Spanish version, and

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it's so the Spanish equivalent for walk, Is that what you're saying? Yeah,

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but you know who goes in favor
of progress? So so progressing in

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English? And it's it's always weird
for me when people uses that as an

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insult because they are literally saying,
oh, yeah, how do you dy're

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wanting the same right for people?
How do you want to make the society

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better? How how do you dare
asking for women having the same rights that

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men for no discrimination? And you
are against you know, anything that's that

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we should be against, And it's
it's creepy and it's weird. And I

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know that you're going to say that
I'm obsessed. But for me, because

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I always talk about the helms of
religion, come and I have if I

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if you see me in TikTok as
TikTok, I'm always talking about the halms

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of religion. No, guys,
well no you don't whatever. Lets I

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pray for you, Thank you,
sir, Thank you so much. Right

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here we have the perfect example of
what religion does to people. And I'm

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sure you're all familiar with the simpsoms
I have quoted them several times before.

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And this group of women is the
perfect example of have you seen this meme

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of the Reverend love Joy's wife who
screaming, please think of the children?

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Or why do you think who would
think of the would think about the children?

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They are this guy and they base
all their hatred and all the how

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to call it besides hatred is going
against the advancement of progress on society on

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the Bible and what their religion is
telling them to you. Religion tells them,

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no, you don't need medicine.
You have the blood of Jesus,

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because Jesus said that things that enter
your body don't harm your body. It's

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what comes out of it. Because
Jesus didn't know what viruses or bacterias were

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or no comeing on. God created
men male and female. So what is

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this thing of people discovering their own
sexuality? And the Bible actually didn't originally

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the original word is not against homosexuality, but it's about an older person having

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intercourse with a very very young child. Because back at the time, I

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think too, like you were an
adult already, so imagine how young it

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was. And that is what was
being condemned. But when they translated the

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Bible to kings James, it became
homosexuality, and now all these believers hate

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people who are not straight. Almost
again, another of the many harms of

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the Bible, not the Bible,
of religion in general, because it's not

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only the Bible, it's many religions
that do the same. And it's it's

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it's quite sad, it's it's but
yeah, let see the harms of religions

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there. Well, I was gonna
say, like when I was listening to

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you Tail, especially when you started
talking about like when we first had like

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the Council of Nicea and these whole
and we start to do like the translations

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of the translations of the copy of
the copy of the copy, to the

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point where different scribes were putting in
their own bends on certain scriptures to fit

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their narrative. And and you know, every time that I ever heard a

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theologian who actually talks about the Bible
per se in the history of how we

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got our Bible, now, how
we got the Bible now, it was

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always um about propagating a particular agenda. And when I see this particular summit

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and like some of the different things
that was being said, I think that

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one of my favorites was Nicki Haley
saying that what did she say? She

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says some mess about like, um, the wokeism is like this. Yeah.

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Yeah, she was talking about like
how like some people would want to

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there was like a more suicide because
of because of like different like trans agenda

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is being pushed and and and and
also you know when she was even asked

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about and she said that after she
was asked, what does woke me?

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And you know she always equivalates,
equivocates it to something like terrible concerning well,

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you know, trans people were killing
themselves more because these woke ideologies are

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being pushed on them or some some
something that's like that. And and you

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know Rond de Santis, you know, basically do the same thing. It

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was just one horrible thing, um
after another after another after another for just

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about every speaker that got up.
And you can't help but say that this

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is an agenda, and the agenda, as as all of you all eloquently

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put it is really just to you
know, stay in power. Um.

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But I know that you wanted to
add a little something because I can tell

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through your car to glasses tail that
you have something else to add. It

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really is spark call in the catchlights, So go ahead. Yeah, no,

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I just wanted to add something.
I actually wanted to quote Da Ray,

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who I'm sure you all know when
when I was talking with him,

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we talked about his book The God
Virus, and he explained how religion always

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needs an enemy, and for a
long time, the most common thing for

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us has been sexualogy, and being
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have had it through all our history. It's part of nature, it's all

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over us, it's all around us. And as time started to change,

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religion realized that homosexuals are being accepted. But they can't lose their enemy.

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They can't lose their grip on society. So now they are attacking this idea

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of accepting each other and all that
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It's turning into their enemy. So
they are becoming like a force of

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discrimination in the world because they always
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no. It's a word against us. Is we the few chosen one against

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the rest of the world that is
evil and wants to destroy the things that

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there are created. And I think
that is one of the biggest risks of

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your country right now, guys.
So yeah, that's why I wanted to

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There are definitely risks that um that
we are facing right now. I more

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so, I don't know if you
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definitely political threats. So even with
all that being said, Glenn, what

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what what do we do like as
as an electorate, as as people who

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are seeing these um, these things
that's coming down the pipeline it is you

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know, like I said, it's
it's an election year. Um. You

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know, I'm wondering, like,
what are some of the things that we

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can do them um itself in order
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that we're dealing with or this rhetoric
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Christian nationalists. You know. The
unfortunately, this problem has been going for

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a long time, and having been
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being familiar with those roots, it's
it's something that isn't new and it's

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not going to go away. But
I think that one thing is stopping the

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comfort zone that goes with people who
spew sick ideas. And I'm not talking

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about you know, people who are
standing up on talking heads on TV or

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something like that. But so many
times you run across people in daily life,

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definitely here in Texas, where people
think nothing of saying the absolutely most

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horrible thing. And I think it's
just standing up and saying no, that's

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not except starting right there, because
we're not going to change the people who

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are trying to make get campaign funds
and get elected. They're going to do

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what they do as long as they
think it's going to work. They're not

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going to change the people around them. Quit buying the Yeah what about you,

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Scott, what are you going to
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know, so I agree and completely
with everything Finel just said. There,

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we got to stand up and say
no. We've talked about this kind of

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thing on this show quite a bit
about how important it is to get out

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and vote, make your voice known, make sure that you're not being quiet

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here. Um, but sometimes that
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that's kind of the big drawback.
What is my vote? You know?

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And but we know we know that
votes do make a different cumulation of small

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contribution by many many people that can
make to big. But I think it's

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important as well, maybe even more
important that we that we talk to people,

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talk to people that are not like
us, talk to people that hate

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your guts. Talk. You know, the more we know about other people,

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not only will we learn more about
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about us. And then we can
stop treating each other as opponents and as

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enemies, as people to overcome and
thrown out. We can come to uh,

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you know, we start seeing each
other as human being. That this

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us versus them mentality that us versus
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a barrier for growth. We were
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how people in power want to keep
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that we can on a grassroots,
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to step over, you know,
the bearer step over those divisions, and

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that's something that we can have more
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overcome as long as long as within
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that, and even to your point, especially like reaching out and talking to

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people who may be different from us. In my research, I was actually

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able to find a website from a
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and I just wanted to read a
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They said that on we're Christian soldiers
marching as to war with the Cross of

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Jesus going on. Before Christ,
the royal master leads against the foe,

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forward into battle, see his banners
go. But now a group of right

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wing Christian soldiers are are waging a
vastly different war. These soldiers, who

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are primarily white and represent about twenty
percent of the public, believe that the

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American name is defined by Christianity and
that the government should take active steps to

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keep it that way. Thus,
their war is to claim the US as

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a Christian nation with an official Christian
culture. In their worldview, Christians are

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America's first citizens and have a presumptive
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Already, the influence of Christian nationalism
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local levels, including book bands and
a reinterpretation of American history in the school

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curricula. But the real threat is
what is happening behind the scenes. So

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far, these policies represent potential risk
to our way of life, but the

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danger is real. Christian nationalism is
not an idea. The movement has grown

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in recent years enlisting angry, aggrieved
and militant people now who now use violence

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to preserve Christian values. Thus,
as Christians and especially as evangelicals, we

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cannot sit on the sidelines. We
cannot talk of following the Principiae and portray

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him with support for or tolerance of
extremists. After all, the history of

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Christianity from Constantine to the eighteenth century
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And I that was very refreshing to
actually see from an actual Christian group

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that calls themselves democracy Evangelicals for Democracy. Very gutsy, but you know,

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I but there are other Christian organizations
that are they are like Christians against Christian

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nationalism and and other people who happen
to still be theists. But believe that

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you know, our nation with Christian
nationalists at the helm is actually in the

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wrong direction. But if you want
to actually hear more from us who are

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trying to step us in the right
direction, please pulack here