WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:10.439 Big food and be on with Cliff and Bobo. These guys are your favorites, 2 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:18.559 so I'd like to say subscribe and read it time, stay and righteous 3 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:28.359 ones today and listening watching always keep its watching. And now your hosts Cliff 4 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:34.119 Barrickman and James Bobo Fay. Good evening, Bobo, Good evening, Cliff. 5 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:38.759 How are you today? Good? How are you all right? Little 6 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:41.719 tired, a little beaten down today, but I'm generally okay. I can 7 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:45.520 certainly push through a podcast, that is for sure. It's good to talk 8 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:49.320 to you as always. What's been going on in your environments? Anything unusual, 9 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:53.479 well, clearly unusual, anything wildly unusual? Just oh, we got 10 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:56.920 y Kyote's back out on the peninsula for the first time in like twenty years 11 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.039 out here on the spin. Yeah, I just figured they'd be there all 12 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.840 the time now we haven't had them forever. What drove them off the people 13 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.040 and they got shot, okay, so the people, Yeah, they kind 14 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.120 of exterminated them. Yeah, there's a pack of four back out here. 15 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:14.840 So that's caused a lot of coster nation now because Junie won't come in at 16 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:19.359 night. He's like an outdoor cat and so cured has been pretty pretty worried 17 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:23.560 out there the spotlight looking around the baseball bad and a spotlight. They don't 18 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:27.719 come around to our house. Nice. Nice. So she's out hunting with 19 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:32.599 a club. Yeah, you have a cool woman, man, she's rat. 20 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:36.879 She's an angel. Yeah, an angel with the club. Yeah, 21 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:38.760 they'll loon them bad outside of like, you're not gonna get closer to hit 22 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:42.040 a karsh because if I get if if I get close enough, I will 23 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:46.640 she could throw it. Yeah, it'd be badass, man. It'd be 24 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.439 like a like one of the like the throwing clubs that we saw in Australia. 25 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.040 Yeah, boondi stick, you have one, give it to her, 26 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.480 no way, that's why it was prized possession. Oh yeah, fair enough. 27 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.680 I don't even really use that thing. You gotta go hunting with it. 28 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:06.280 I have not killed any wallabies or kangaroos with it, no, no 29 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.680 EMUs no, but I watched it killed two wallabies and a couple go onas 30 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:14.960 Wow, they're pretty efficient. There's a picture to be holding up for the 31 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:19.360 last episode. Put it on there for the picture of the podcast, Like 32 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.280 the little picture in the posting. It was the picture of me and I 33 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:27.639 also holding that booty stick and a boomerang with a boomerang. I remember money 34 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:29.840 Maker was like, you know, he'd go back to look first thing. 35 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:32.759 We'd all keep our stuff in the back of the suburban order like the whatever 36 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:37.240 it is set or the cast was writing in. Money Maker was pretty famous 37 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:39.719 for like just throwing your stuff out of the way, like if it wasn't 38 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:44.479 his, it just didn't matter. And that was like he was like fully 39 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.039 like on one of those things where he was like focused one hundred percent of 40 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:50.680 something else, like just taking through his stuff, and I was like, 41 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.240 watch out for my stuff, Matt, And I guess he'd at that one. 42 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:55.120 I didn't notice what he'd thrown the boomerang out during that time, because 43 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:59.240 later that night I couldn't find it. You should check in the back of 44 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:06.719 the car where he got up from, because boomerangs return. That's so funny, 45 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:08.039 Yeah, except that when he threw it hit me on the beach. 46 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:13.080 Yeah, that one returned and took your ankle out for the next six months, 47 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.639 a year, two years, no, two and a half years, 48 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:21.439 and gnarly infection like a flash eating stuff in there, and well, I 49 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.560 mean it was just a little nick but then getting in the we're going into 50 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.879 the jungles and stuff. I got some weird stuff and it got pretty infected. 51 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.919 They sing, I had some flash eating bacteria in there. Of course, 52 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.840 laying on your side while you slept made it spread to the other leg, 53 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:40.000 if I remember correctly. Yeah, keeping it classy. You went back 54 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.439 on the road of the scene, Cleve. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 55 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.439 I'm only home for a couple of days. One of my employees is out. 56 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.039 He's out in Tennessee right now, so he's visiting family, taking care 57 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.960 of stuff. So I'm covering for him this week. Friday, I drive 58 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:58.879 out to Idaho. I'm doing that event out there with doctor Meldrum and Freeman 59 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:02.080 and those guys all that jazz. So out there for the weekend, I'm 60 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:04.520 going to try to see an old friend of mine, guy I used to 61 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:08.159 work at the fishing tackle store where he lives out there now. So I'm 62 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:12.120 going to try to see that gentleman. If my schedule allows. Come back 63 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.680 on Sunday, and if everything goes right, I'll have a day off, 64 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:17.360 which will be cool, and then I work the rest of the week, 65 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:21.279 you know, until until the employee comes back. But yeah, other than 66 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:25.920 that, I think at that point, I've got a week I think, 67 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:29.680 I think two weeks down, I'm going to try to go camping, because 68 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:31.519 I mean, this summer has been so bananas for me. I just have 69 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.199 not been out in the woods hardly at all. I've done a few daytime 70 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.600 walks and a couple of dusk things. I mean, mind you, I 71 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.560 mean I wasn't I went to Ape Canyon. I've been to the Blues three 72 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.639 times this year now. I have been out in the woods. It's just 73 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:48.360 not camping with my wife, which is kind of how I prefer to go. 74 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:53.959 Me and Melissa and you know, and so Cheat the dog haven't been 75 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.079 out. So hopefully we'll get out for a night or two, and then 76 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:59.279 after that, a little while after that, I get to take a real 77 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.680 vacation like and to me, like a real vacation is oddly enough, no 78 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:05.279 bigfoot stuff. I'll be going fishing in Mexico for a few days, so 79 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:09.879 I'm looking forward to that. Still a few weeks ahead, Still a few 80 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:13.759 weeks ahead, you know. So who knows when this episode will come out, 81 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:15.839 because we don't really record them in order necessarily, or even the week 82 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.600 that they are published, So this could be two or three weeks from now. 83 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.360 It could be this coming week. We don't really know. Only only 84 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:27.040 the divine influence of Matt Pruitt knows that one our special guests we got coming 85 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.439 up in a couple of days, he just got a great auto recording. 86 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.360 I guess that's pretty Uh. They've freaked him out and they heard it and 87 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:39.879 then I won't say who it is, but they got some auto that Dave 88 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:45.399 Ellis is very excited about, and we're going to hear it later this week. 89 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:46.800 He's going to come on the air and we're ready to hear it. 90 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.879 Yeah, we're gonna do another recording session in a few more days to try 91 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:54.120 to get a little ahead of the game. But between you being out of 92 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:58.600 town and me being out of town film and that stuff for Allegedmate Science too, 93 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.519 we've on a fallen behind, which means that we're on schedule because we 94 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:03.959 were ahead for a while. Man, it felt really good. I mean, 95 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:09.160 I love being ahead, just two or three weeks ahead on the podcast. 96 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:11.319 You can relax, get it done when you need to. But man, 97 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.000 getting up against the wall like that stresses me out. I don't like 98 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.439 it. Yeah here, Well, I guess we're going to go through the 99 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:20.879 emails today and voice messages and see what the people want to hear us. 100 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:26.160 Yeah, Yameron about Yeah, yeah, this is my favorite kind of episode 101 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:28.160 that we do. Not that I don't like talking to guests, of course, 102 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.600 but I do just enjoy hearing from our listeners, because our listeners are 103 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.399 why we are here. 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The website is of course, Bigfoot of Beyond podcast dot com, 112 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.800 and you know, hit contact and that I'll tell you everything you need, 113 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.040 Send us an email, leave us a voicemail. We'd love to hear 114 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.319 from you, guys, because all of these questions. Once a month, 115 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:21.439 these episodes are user listener driven, so this is for you and I. 116 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:25.759 Frankly this is my favorite one to do anyway, So I'm looking forward to 117 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:29.360 this and it looks like this week we only have one voicemail though, so 118 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.160 want only one voicemail, so let's go ahead and listen to that and we 119 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.560 can jump into whatever we think. The answer to this thing might be. 120 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:40.879 Hey, Cliff, Bobo, Dave Gauge here from Covinton, Louisiana. Pretty 121 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.639 sure Cliff will remember me, but Bobo, I'm not sure. So think 122 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.920 back to September twenty eighteen cliffs last expedition amount hood. I believe I was 123 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:53.639 the only quote unquote outdoorsman driving a black Camaro with mods, probably the only 124 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:57.439 one up there driving something not recommended from Mountain Travel. Hopefully Bobo, that 125 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.759 jogs you remember. Now, this is leading my question. As you were 126 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.879 breaking on your campsite, Mint and I were there and you told an awesome 127 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.839 story. I'll keep the details to myself. It's divulging anything as your call. 128 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.800 So the campsite story other stories in the podcast remind me to ask my 129 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.079 question here. I'm thinking Cliff has some sort of top fifteen, top ten 130 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.639 lists of Bobo stories, you know, the really really good ones we haven't 131 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:22.279 heard yet. Now understand if some of those stories can't be told, protect 132 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.800 the innocent statute of limitations. Just just joking, but surely you must have 133 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.159 some absolute killer stories to share. That's it for now, keep up what 134 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:37.639 y'all do. Fantastic high to Matt as well. Thanks, and that's all. 135 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:39.720 Yeah, Dave Gage, of course, Yeah, he's a friend. 136 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.200 He's more than an expedition er. He's a friend, kept in contact after 137 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:48.000 all this time. And you remember the Camaro, Like the only dude out 138 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.759 there in a Camaro. Yeah, that'sh man. Yeah, I did a 139 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:54.039 lot of driving. He drove all the way up. Wasn't the best off 140 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.600 road vehicle, but that's what you get for driving a Camaro. At least 141 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:01.200 he did it in style. That's pretty cool. Yeah. So he brought 142 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.399 up a couple of things I think are worth worthy of blabbing about for a 143 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.440 second. First Minty. First of all, Scott mint On, good good 144 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.799 friend. He was the expeditioner that helped us out. He started me off 145 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:13.960 on the museum track really well, helped me set up a lot of the 146 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:20.799 retail side of things, and he's a good friend. First employee, yeah, 147 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.840 first employee. He also he went on to other things. He's he's 148 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.679 a designer. He's a graphic designer by trade. But he rented this. 149 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.080 This is kind of a side thing just in case. Next time you're in 150 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.679 town, Bops, we're gonna go talk to him and Sandy Downtown Sandy there, 151 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.039 you know the one way stretches there. He opened a record shop, 152 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.440 a vinyl record shop, and it's the coolest one that I've seen. I 153 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.159 mean, it's it's not like Amiba Records or something like that. It's not 154 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.840 some giant thing. He basically had an office in which he would do his 155 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.799 graphic arts stuff, and he started selling records out of it because why not. 156 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:00.519 He has such a good record collection, and it's it's like fantastic taste, 157 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.000 really quirky stuff, really unusual stuff, and really rad stuff. He 158 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.120 injected a heck of a lot of culture into Sandy all of a sudden, 159 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:11.080 it was. It was it's a neat little addition. So it's kind of 160 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.039 neat to drop by and see Minty every once in a while. On that 161 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.440 one. But as far as the stories, gobobs, do you remember what 162 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.120 he was do you remember any of these stories he was talking about. I 163 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:24.360 have no idea, Yeah, because if I if there's a top fifteen stories 164 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:28.919 about you know from Bobo that I remember, a lot of those just can't 165 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.399 be told in public. I know. Yeah, I mean, both your 166 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:35.360 parents are still alive. A lot of the people are probably still alive. 167 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:41.480 I'm alive. You're alive. There you go, exactly, good point, 168 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.679 good point. Yeah, And when you're dead, I'll just make up stuff, 169 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:48.240 assuming assuming you go first. To be fair though, because there's no 170 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:52.000 talent. That was five years ago, like talk, packing up and talking. 171 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.080 Oh man, I don't I don't remember that at all. Imber those 172 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:00.600 guys shooting guns is like all day next to us. Oh yeah, yeah, 173 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.039 well yeah that it is the National Forestcepterral. Well you know, babe, 174 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.840 babe, that is called you, babe. I try it's something a 175 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:13.559 long day now my mind view hunting. I don't usually make that mistake. 176 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:22.080 I'm a freud. So oh yeah, I'm got to say Bobs, but 177 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.279 I sinking Dave at the same time. So anyway, hey baby, you're 178 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:31.399 looking pretty good baby on the radio. But you know, Bobs, maybe 179 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.279 a good thing to do would be too instead of giving us, I think 180 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.320 of some stories that you just know you can never tell, you know, 181 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.639 because because the witnesses are still alive or whatever issues, And you know what, 182 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.200 maybe give us a couple of keywords from each story that might entice us 183 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.879 and entice our imagination to get rolling in that direction. Here, I'll start, 184 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.200 I'll start, okay, because this is what I say. Won't won't 185 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.879 affect anything, and listeners won't know, but you might. Here here's an 186 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:03.679 idea. Mister fantastic. Oh, I'm not telling exactly that's my pauw Oh 187 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:11.279 fantastic? Is it fantastic? Did I get that wrong? Yeah, it's 188 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:15.240 fantastic. Yeah, Mr Fantastic. You can't tell that story obviously, but 189 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.480 you get the ideas. It's a hint in the right direction of something that 190 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.679 perhaps should never be told. Tell us about something else that should never be 191 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:28.840 told? Uh HMP, HMP. Yeah, Well, I think a lot 192 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.759 of start a lot of stories start with that one, because I know what 193 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:37.600 HMP stands for. HMP, of course stands for a heavy metal pat As 194 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:43.039 our listeners know, most of Bobo's friends have some sort of first name or 195 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.039 adjective associated with it. You know, with that with that person, whether 196 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.519 it's heavy Metal Pat or Big Dumb Josh or Bigger Dumber Josh. That's a 197 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.480 good one, Jesse legend. There's all these people, these all these casts 198 00:12:54.480 --> 00:13:01.399 of characters, these muppets, that's around Bobo emails from tight Eye Steve, 199 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.720 Ted Eye Steve. Yeah I saw that. Yeah, that text came through. 200 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:05.879 Hey, tight Eye Steve. I don't know if I've met you yet, 201 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:11.559 but you fit right in with the with the with the other weirdos circle 202 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:15.720 in the Bobo hive. But yeah, hmp, man, I imagine a 203 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:20.440 tremendous number of stories that should never be told to start with that one, 204 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.600 and I can think of a handful of them right now. Yeah, hmp. 205 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.960 And bad abilities start off a lot of stories that those are the ones 206 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:31.399 that can't over the air. Of course, I've never ever said this you, 207 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.399 and there's a there's a big part of me that just does not mean 208 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:41.879 it. But I can't wait till you're dead. Stories feel free when I'm 209 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.720 dead. Yeah, But of course I want you to live a long, 210 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.440 healthy, happy life. Don't get me wrong, but I guarantee you I'll 211 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.120 tell a couple of these stories that when you're dead which is a good reason 212 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:58.480 to kill me first. By the way, Bob's he's got to send in 213 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:03.200 some more some more hints about the story. Yeah, Dave, gauge out 214 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.440 there yet. We need a couple more hints because I guess, uh, 215 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.159 maybe our ram isn't good enough. We just don't have a big enough ram 216 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.039 that we remember these things, or or there's it's just gets lost in the 217 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.399 lost in the sticks. You know, there's too many stories. Which one 218 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.200 is this one is a question. But it was good to hear your voice, 219 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:24.360 Dave. Thanks for listening. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with 220 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:33.679 Cliff and Bobo. We'll be right back after these messages. Well, yeah, 221 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.080 sor our next email us from Kevin W. Bobo. With so many 222 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.960 of your friends having earned colorful nicknames, what is Cliff's nickname? Well, 223 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.919 how timely? We're just talking about that just moments ago. Yeah, it's 224 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.960 just been Cliff. No, I can think of one. I can think 225 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.559 of one that you called me quite a little and yeah, cliff Bert though, 226 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.000 Cliffbert though, which is what you know? You start to call me 227 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.600 that a long time before you I think you even knew I had a brother 228 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.320 named Robert named Rob Robert though, you know, so you kind of combined 229 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:07.600 my brother and I without having known. It's just part of the magic of 230 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.039 Bobo. You just did that automatically. That really like a descriptor, like 231 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.679 short Cliff or cool Cliff, smart guy, smart Cliff, Yeah, smartass 232 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:24.120 Cliff. Yeah. But cliff Bert though, I guess which is all. 233 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:28.039 That's one that I think you've been calling me, probably the longest. Yeah, 234 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.320 that's an honor if you're being able to speak Spanish. Well, yeah, 235 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:35.480 I'm not one of the Humboldt folks, you know, so I don't 236 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:41.639 have that double nickname thing going on, like amazingly creative Cliff. Yeah, 237 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:46.360 we'll stick. Don't know, they don't really roll off the tongue. Perhaps 238 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:48.240 that's that's the problem. Did you have any nicknames growing up, like in 239 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:52.240 high school and stuff like that. It's grade school, not really, not 240 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.799 really at all. Actually, just it's always been kind of Cliff, you 241 00:15:54.799 --> 00:16:00.000 know, occasionally a Clifford soft rock Cliff, soft rock Cliff. Right. 242 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:06.440 Well, here's here's another question. This one's from John Lawhead. Hey, 243 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:10.039 guys, please help. I know we have a big collection from multiple sources 244 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:14.639 of footprint casts from the Rockies to the Pacific and up through Alaska and Canada. 245 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:18.399 What about east of the Rockies? Is there a similar history of cast 246 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.799 tracks from the east Or does the late mister Burne have a good point about 247 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.000 eastern Bigfoot? Oh? No, the late mister Burne was completely incorrect, 248 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:32.240 totally. He told Katley Strain at the end of the I guess two years 249 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:36.240 or said, once she talked to him. He said, now that I've 250 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:38.120 talked to you and Robert, you know, her husband, Bob Strain, 251 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.679 I have to say I changed my position. I believe that there could be 252 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:47.559 sasquatch east of the Mississippi or the Rockies. Oh well, good, I'm 253 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:51.000 glad he came around finally, because his when he wrote that the addendum to 254 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:56.039 his book when he republished it, it was so disappointing to read his his 255 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:57.799 his claims on there. I thought that was just like, really and then 256 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:02.039 I'll vocalize, Yeah, they don't vocalize it. But he likes the serious 257 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.759 so I don't know. It kind of contradicted itself and then like to say 258 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:11.240 there were no Sasquatches. He's the Rockies. So really really, so all 259 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:14.079 that John Green stuff that was gathered in the seventies. Were you unaware of 260 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:15.799 it or you just didn't believe it? Of course, we know that John 261 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:19.160 Green and Peter Burn like butted heads and it didn't like each other very much, 262 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.200 and they're talking crap to the day they died, probably about each other 263 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:25.519 to some degree. You know. I wasn't there, of course for either 264 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:29.119 of their desks, but I'm assuming that I don't think there was in that 265 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:33.640 relationship. Yeah, I don't think any healing was going on in that relationship. 266 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.480 You know. I was talking to Michael Freeman a couple of days ago, 267 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:42.480 and I guess the he was doing a job out that's always doing Scott 268 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:47.160 Violette's job out in Baker City or something, some Blue Mountain big foot thing, 269 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:51.599 and one of the speakers there told Michael Freeman that he had been to 270 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:53.920 the Blues with Peter or something like forty times. I say, well, 271 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.079 that's an odd behavior for someone who doesn't think there's any big foots in the 272 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.599 Blues, because that's another thing that Peter wroteen is book, is that there's 273 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.240 no big foots at all in the Blue Mountains. Well, why would you 274 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:06.079 keep going back? I didn't understand that part. You know, I mean 275 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.839 Peter was a you know, an iconic researcher, shall we say, an 276 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:12.920 iconic researcher. He got a lot of funding from a lot of people. 277 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:17.240 He was one of the earliest folks living in caves and nepaul and stuff looking 278 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:21.720 for the yetty, he's certainly earned his mark in all the bigfoot history thing. 279 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:26.079 But he was completely wrong about Sasquatches not being anywhere east of the Rockies. 280 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.000 Because look at Tom Shay's collection. Tom Shay has many, many, 281 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:34.359 many, many many footprints. Look at the stuff from Florida. I've personally 282 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:41.799 cast footprints in Georgia and Kentucky. There's good evidence from Tennessee. There's good 283 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:48.599 stuff from Indiana that I've seen, excellent stuff from Indiana, Ohio, Ohio. 284 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.319 Like, how can one ignore all this stuff? And one has to 285 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.559 assume and at least one, I, I should say, have to assume. 286 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:59.559 It's because perhaps he just wasn't presented with the evidence, he didn't have 287 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.400 first hand experience with the evidence. Because he was also saying not that long 288 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:07.480 ago, mister Burne, of course, that he thought that the last credible 289 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.839 siding of any big foot was in two thousand and six, and then he 290 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:15.640 talked his loggers out. I guess there was a siding in the Salmon Huckleberry. 291 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:18.160 No, that's not right. That's a wilderness area in the Mountain Hood. 292 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:21.920 What was oh, the Salmonberry I always get those mixed up on the 293 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:26.000 Salmonberry River A handful of years ago. What is it twenty twenty three? 294 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:29.440 Right now, I'm guessing this is probably about twenty eighteen or something like that. 295 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:33.440 And give it to take a year multiple witness sighting of a sasquatch by 296 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:38.279 loggers and on the Salmonberry River or thereabouts in that general area. A lot 297 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:41.480 of stuff comes out of there, though, so it's no surprise really. 298 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.480 But I guess he was. He got to the scene and he interviewed some 299 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:51.920 people supposedly at like yeah, yeah, exactly, And I was trying to 300 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:53.720 find out where it was, you know, because that's a golden opportunity for 301 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:56.519 some footprints and follow up. But I guess he got a chance to Maybe 302 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:59.240 he went out there, maybe just talked to him on the phone. I 303 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:00.920 don't really know. I think he went there, I don't I have no 304 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:03.799 idea. I don't know. But one of the loggers said that a couple 305 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.799 of people came out and looked around, and there were footprints in the ground 306 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:11.279 and nobody bothered casting them. He said they were beautiful footprints, and he 307 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:12.720 said, oh, there's pictures, and I got them somewhere on one of 308 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.759 my phones. All of a sudden, I never saw them. So I 309 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.200 don't know. Maybe the guy was just incorrect or lying or misremembering, who 310 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.440 knows, But yeah, apparently bigfoot researchers went to the spot, saw beautiful 311 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:26.000 footprints in the ground and didn't bother casting them. Oh that chaps my hide 312 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:30.400 bubs me too, I got. I got. I got a pretty big 313 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.720 argument with Peter. Actually, I thought, I said, he's like big 314 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:38.119 footst vocalize and I was like, dude, show show me a primate that 315 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:44.559 doesn't just blabbers. I mean, primates all vocalize. It's like, I 316 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:48.480 think all mammals vocalize. It must have something to do with just his own 317 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.519 personal interaction with the evidence. It just must. Maybe he doesn't really it 318 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.039 doesn't believe other people. I don't know what it was, but clearly mister 319 00:20:56.079 --> 00:21:00.559 Byrne, in all due respect, was just incorrect about sasquatches not being anywhere 320 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:03.039 east of the Rockies. So it is what it is. It is what 321 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.720 it is. But now he's dead, Now he knows whatever the truth is. 322 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.599 I'm assuming he's he's in on the secret now, so good for him. 323 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:14.559 Something we can all look forward to. You think you learned that stuff 324 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:22.319 in Hell? I don't know. You let me know. I hope our 325 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:25.000 listeners realize. We have great respect for mister Burne, but he's just wrong 326 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:26.839 about some stuff. But you know what, so am I. I can't 327 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.400 say the same for Bobo, but I know I'm getting correct about some things. 328 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.200 And if you talk about Bigfoot long enough, especially publicly, you're gonna 329 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:37.279 be wrong eventually. Ain't no big deal, nothing wrong with being wrong? 330 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.880 Okay, Well, our next messages from John Hall, who is actually the 331 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:47.079 first big footer that Matt Prue had ever met, and he says, if 332 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:48.599 you guys are in charge of making your own finding big Foot type show, 333 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.480 what would you do different or how would it be different? The reason I 334 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.279 ask is that pretty much all the Bigfoot documentary documentaries and reality shows are pretty 335 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.720 much the same. Nothing he comes from them. It seems at the big 336 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.000 Foot field that's gotten to stay over the last few decades. Thanks for your 337 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:08.119 time. Love the show, John Hall. We do a lot different. 338 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:12.119 Yeah, I mean so basically, those guys had like two hundred and twenty 339 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:18.160 five grand per per week to work with in the that's just field you know, 340 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:25.799 travel hotels, all that, rent a cars meals. So yeah, 341 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:30.519 I would have done it different for sure. Maybe what I would have probably 342 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:34.759 done was not flown all over the place and just kind of done like each 343 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.960 season like in a like maybe not the not the exact same like cabin, 344 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:44.160 but have a base and work your way around and and just be totally flu 345 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:48.440 have a lot more flexibility was what I'd imagine i'd try to do it. 346 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.599 Yeah, I think that'd be a good start. I think I'm I'm kind 347 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:57.000 of doing my own version of it now with the museum videos. Honestly because 348 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:00.839 I'm at home, which I'd love being home. I'm not a big fan 349 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.039 of traveling, even though I have to do it all the time for work. 350 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.480 I'm just I don't enjoy traveling. It's not something I want to do, 351 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:08.240 not even for Bigfoot. And I say this all the time. I 352 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:12.319 mean, it's great to have a Sasquatch you know, hot spot in Virginia, 353 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.039 but I'm not in Virginia. I like where I live, you know, 354 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.759 I live here for a reason, So I would go to local spots 355 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.839 around where I am and follow up on things, or go to areas that 356 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.480 I know are good, because you're going to get stuff eventually. I think 357 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:32.039 that it's important on these types of shows to show that you don't always get 358 00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:34.160 things, and I think that's one of the things that Finding Bigfoot did successfully. 359 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:37.880 We didn't always get things, which is where the witnesses and the town 360 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.440 hall and the other sort of things come in. But I'm really much more 361 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:45.680 interested in field work than I am, you know, witness interviews and that 362 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:49.079 sort of stuff. Witnesses are a signpost that points to where one should do 363 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:52.200 field work. For a lot of big footers, I know that witnesses are 364 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:57.880 the goal because they like stories and that they value the witnesses as the end. 365 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:02.039 To me, there a means to an end. So I would focus 366 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:08.720 more on the field work and the analysis of the data gathered from that from 367 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.279 my local area. If I if I had my druthers, which is pretty 368 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:17.079 much what I'm doing now, which of course I'm doing it on zero budget, 369 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.680 you know, like on on on gas money basically gas money in a 370 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:23.200 bag of Doritos on the way to the word paranapples and orange is there because 371 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:26.680 there's I mean two hundred and twenty five grand a week. Dude, shoot, 372 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.759 I mean I want to put my money. I would have definitely had 373 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:37.200 a mobile mobile base camp like and we wouldn't be staying in hotels. I'll 374 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.079 tell you that, we'd be staying out at the sites, and uh, 375 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.599 i'd have a lot more thermal didn't. It was so it was so weird 376 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.720 how they didn't want to have like stationary thermals like pen untilt, Like I'd 377 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.640 have pen untilts around the where you were at and then like dougs doing out 378 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.319 the new what's doing with legend each science too, is putting all those cameras 379 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:00.480 and light flick on instantly at the same time where there's no way could get 380 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:04.519 out without you're getting it, you know, at least a blur of it 381 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:08.839 running. You get something I think I think we could do with the budget. 382 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:14.599 I mean, so they spent I mean they spent over twenty million dollars 383 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.000 get on us out in the field, and that's insane. Well over the 384 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.160 nine years, yeah, we didn't get any good footage that's insane, Like 385 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.319 to me, that's just it's it's like, that's just nuts, Like we 386 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:29.880 should have if we had that, someone gave us twenty million dollars and can 387 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:33.640 you guys get footage? I'd say I'd bet my life on it. Yes, 388 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:37.079 we could within two years and have great footage and then I can tell 389 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.359 stories about you. No, you know, I think that it's the format 390 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.920 of television. It's it's reality TV. Reality TV is not the format for 391 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.599 a Bigfoot documentary show. It is what actually when it comes down too, 392 00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.880 you know, especially on the schedule that we have. And that's one of 393 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.279 the first things that I would change about any sort of other show is take 394 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:02.279 away that schedule pressure. And what I mean by that is like I probably 395 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.440 wouldn't be a weekly show. I don't. I don't think that that's the 396 00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:10.599 right way to go about something like a finding Bigfoot show because you have eight 397 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:14.000 or nine days that you're filming there and you you got to get something, 398 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:15.640 and you got to move to the next spot or you got to stay in 399 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:19.079 the same spot. Even I think that even that would is that it's that 400 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:25.640 pressure of one episode a week that does it in because you've got to get 401 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.119 something. You gotta get something cool for the audience that that's that's fun. 402 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:30.079 Even if you don't get a big Foot, you gotta get something fun and 403 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.599 some sort of story in there. I think that a better way to do 404 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:38.839 it is a no pressure and no time constraint documentary that like, say, 405 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.119 for example, we say we go to Michael's house. Remember Michael our guests 406 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.440 from one forty nine, from episode one forty nine, So say we say 407 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.720 we go to Michael's house and we spend X number of months there and then 408 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.880 whatever we get we piece it together. I think that's a better way to 409 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.839 do something like this. But some sort of serial weekly show now, it's 410 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:00.880 just it's just not going to happen now because of the constraints and the money 411 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.759 that's on the table and the pressure on the production company to get something done. 412 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.920 There has to be a zero time constraint framework for anything to happen, 413 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.160 because Bigfoots don't give a damn about your time constraints. Yeah, I've always 414 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.720 said when people talking like, hey, these guys want to do a TV 415 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.359 show, now I saw them. You're so much better off just doing like 416 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:29.079 documentary stock because TV is not conducive. It's two it's yeah, it's not 417 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.000 conducive. It's there are two different things. Yeah, there really are. 418 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:34.799 You can make an entertaining show, and that's great. You know, it's 419 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:38.400 fun to watch people go do this. Me on Mountain Monsters what I mean. 420 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.680 I love Mountain it's a great show. I love the show. But 421 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.440 like, are they doing bigfoot research? I don't know who knows what they're 422 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.079 doing. They're they're they're being themselves out in the woods and turning it up 423 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.880 to eleven. It's what they're doing. But you aren't going to get quality 424 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:55.039 DNA evidence and footprint casts doing something like that, I would think. And 425 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:56.839 it's not a slim against the Mountain Monster show. I love those guys. 426 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.880 All of those guys are my friends. But they put out. They put 427 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.160 out, but they know what they're doing, like they they're the part they're 428 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.920 putting out like they're they're doing it, like they're they're not clean. That 429 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.920 there's you know, scientists you know, trying to Yeah, they're entertainers. 430 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.839 Yeah yeah, And frankly, we need fewer entertainers and that probably includes myself 431 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:22.759 and more educators and scientists in this thing which the educator part does include myself. 432 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.519 I guess I'm more entertainment than anything else really, But yeah, I 433 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.440 think we need more scientists in the in the game. Oh definitely, Yeah, 434 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.160 a lot more scientists. But until you know, I mean, until 435 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:38.880 something happens or you know, more interest is taken or I don't know. 436 00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:42.119 There's a lot of barriers, most of which are the big footing community itself. 437 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.720 There's a lot of barriers between more scientists getting involved in this subject than 438 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.880 where we are now. But it's mostly discur own behavior and and correct me 439 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:55.039 if I'm wrong. But Matt Pruett, here are our listening voice on our 440 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.839 shoulder. Didn't you address that in your book? That sounds awfully familiar to 441 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.920 me, Like like you're kind of pointing out that the big foot community is 442 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.119 one of the biggest obstacles for being taken seriously, Yeah, to some degree. 443 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.000 I mean, I don't want it to sound like an oversimplification, but 444 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.519 yeah, it is very often the claims and the behaviors of a lot of 445 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.480 proponents that are the most damaging to the proponents themselves, not only in the 446 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:21.119 eyes of the scientific community, but the skeptical community. Let's say, because 447 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.759 you know, the people that think that it can't exist therefore doesn't exist. 448 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.599 Like, despite whatever other differences they have, they're at least united in that 449 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:33.359 particular front, whereas the proponents side is anything but united, and so they 450 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.240 spend so much time fighting and bickering among themselves that it's really easy for someone 451 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.640 you can hardly blame, let's say, someone from the outside looking in, 452 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.119 going yeah, this is all nonsense, because even these people don't agree for 453 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.440 our listeners, by the way, that was, of course, our producer 454 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.839 Matt Pruitt by his book. Read it. It's fantastic in my opinion, 455 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:57.400 and it's legitimately one of the best big books written in recent years by far. 456 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.440 So anyway, Yeah, so there's a long, meandering answer for you, 457 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:06.880 mister John Hall. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and 458 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:15.000 Bobo. We'll be right back after these messages. All right, This next 459 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:22.039 question here is from Zippy West. Cool name anyway, Zippy West. He 460 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.839 us the number one killer of bears are bears and the number one killer of 461 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:33.880 lions are lions. So if sasquatches a cannibal, do you think they may 462 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.599 eat they're dead? We don't know they could. I mean, I've heard 463 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.000 that speculated, and I don't think they do. I think anything's on the 464 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.599 menu, man, I really do. I think that they'd eat us, 465 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.039 if you know, if they were so inclined, if you know, if 466 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.240 they were hungry enough, are delicious, we look delicious. Can imagine all 467 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:59.640 that marbling that we'd have. Chimpanze's been seating eating other chimpanzees, haven't they. 468 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.319 I know they've been seen eating in their monkeys. I don't know about 469 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:06.480 chimps though. Do they eat other troop members? No, not troop members. 470 00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.160 I think like when they after they kill X one through their team, 471 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.359 I think the other troops. Yeah, that's kind of what I meant to 472 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.599 say. So, yeah, the other troops when they do inner tribal or 473 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.319 troop warfare. I don't know. But do I think Sasquatch is accountable, 474 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.599 Well, they're reported to be. But that also might just mean human eating 475 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.119 eating humans, And there are a small, small, small, small number 476 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.240 of reports of them suggesting that behavior. I got it right here, Cliff. 477 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.920 And when it comes to me, it's not just other primates that chimps 478 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.119 will find delicious. They've been known to feast on rival chimpanzees too, and 479 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:42.039 on rare occasions they're kind of cannibalistic behavior can even expend individuals within their own 480 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.079 group. Well okay, well there you have it. And that's also true 481 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:49.759 for humans to some degree. Yeah, it's mostly I think cultural taboos. 482 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.279 So yeah, I think there that's kind of settles it. Sasquatches probably do 483 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:59.599 eat their dead, but a naturally dead animal, there's a reason they died. 484 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.519 You know, you don't want that in your body. Yeah, I'm 485 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.920 not even sure. I guess I'm you know, scavengers would eat that sort 486 00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.960 of stuff, but I think saadsquatches are also scavengers. I think that anything's 487 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.880 on the menu. They don't have great taste and a lot of things, 488 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.119 and I think the menu items are one of those things. So zippy, 489 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:17.799 that's the best we can do on that one, all right. This one's 490 00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.880 from Jake L. I live in the Driftless region of Wisconsin, and I'm 491 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.279 curious about the potential for Bigfoot's here. There are some reports, but not 492 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.279 many. In your opinion, is this a good place to go Bigfoot? 493 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.599 It would be a waste of time. Yeah. Yeah, we've been there. 494 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:36.839 Yeah, we've been there. Yeah, because it's it's right across fromer 495 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.319 we stayed in Wisconsin. We went in Iowa. Yeah, Jake, I 496 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.960 was I'm not familiar with the Driftless region there, but but we just looked 497 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:49.559 it up and it sure looks good to me. I would expect them to 498 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.799 be there like that, that's steep, rugged terrain, if there's plant life 499 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.839 and stuff, if it's if it's gnarly places where you don't want to go 500 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:59.319 walking around, they're probably there. We heard him there, but that one 501 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.559 do this cliff, So that's apparently we filmed there. Yeah, we had 502 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.759 them come right up to us, that one stopping its feet in the brush, 503 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.519 right right right fifty feet from us. Oh, is that the where 504 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.319 that watch tower was? No, that was that was that was in Wisconsin. 505 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.680 I'm talking about when we went over to Yeah, they were there too, 506 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:22.839 But I'm talking about when we went in Iowa and that Yellow Yellow River 507 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.680 State Park or something like that. Yellow Oh there there, Okay, that's 508 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.920 that's Trifless area. That's the heart of the Trifless area. Really yeah, 509 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.319 yeah, they said, uh, south southwest Wisconsin. So yeah, it's 510 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.759 a good area. I would do it. Go find the plant life, 511 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:44.720 find where all the animals are hanging out and go. And one of the 512 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:49.400 best things about it is like very few researchers are up there doing things and 513 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.480 you'll probably have most of places to yourself. Maybe contact the BFR owner Wisconsin 514 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.359 because Larry Dalky's up there and his wife, like they know, they put 515 00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.119 us on spots where we got them like right away there. There's some of 516 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.720 the guys up there too, as we've been out with at the site and 517 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.680 the Yellow I think it was Yellow River State Park. I think it was 518 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.400 what they called it. Yeah, that is exactly where it was. Yeah. 519 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:14.719 And you know there's a fantastic juvenile sasquatch footprint and casts here in the 520 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.760 museum from Dubuque right outside of there, Yeah, and that general area. 521 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.880 Yeah. And that's so that whole area it's it's it's under exploited for big 522 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.320 foot stuff. I think it's a good way to say it. There's certain 523 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.760 there are certainly in there and there and the deep thing about being out there 524 00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.239 and I think it's you know, we've talked about this before, aboves that 525 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.559 it's probably easier to find sasquatches in that area the country than it is out 526 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:38.360 here. To the Pacific Northwest, and it's not because there's more of them. 527 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.159 I think there's more out here in the Pacific Northwest, but there are 528 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.280 there's less habitat. So at least you know where to start looking. And 529 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.880 it's still a really really big area. You know, it's a huge area, 530 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.320 but it's a lot smaller than it is out here. So at least 531 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.960 you know where to start looking and start start frequenting certain areas and talking to 532 00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.480 the locals and looking at sighting rapport and all that sort of stuff, just 533 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:05.079 stuff that we all do as big footers and see where you can zero in 534 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.400 on and then start working that area as much as you can. Yeah, 535 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:12.119 that's a great I'm just I'm having always memories come back now. I'm talking 536 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.079 to people in town and just other people that weren't on the show and stuff, 537 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.559 but all the stuff going on around there. Yeah, that's a that's 538 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.079 a really good area. Yeah, so go go to it, Go to 539 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:23.840 it. Let us know what you get. Okay. Well, here's the 540 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:30.280 last question for this particular episode, the August Q and A, and this 541 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.480 was from George Edo. The messages or the question is who is the greatest 542 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:42.760 big footer of all time. I guess Titans maybe, or that's it's sorted 543 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.199 to say just one. But I mean, you gotta get you gotta take 544 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:49.559 your head off to Roger Patterson, because he brought in the thing that's convinced 545 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.360 more people than I mean, he's responsible for getting more people in a big 546 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:58.199 foot than anyone else. I'd say, you got John Green, and I'd 547 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:02.559 even throw in Tom Shay and in the conversation. Yeah, you know, 548 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:07.679 I guess there's Here's the challenge with this question, to me, at least, 549 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:13.519 George, is there are so many aspects, so many facets to big 550 00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:19.119 footing, that you almost have to compartmentalize them because there are people who would 551 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:23.480 compile compile information like John Green, in which if we're talking about compilers and 552 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:28.840 who contributed more to the field than probably anybody else, it might be John 553 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.400 Green, just because he was amongst the first and he's the person who kind 554 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:37.199 of almost popularized the subject to some degree, although popularized might be too strong 555 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:42.000 of a verb for this. He was introduction, yeah, for pretty much 556 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.320 everybody. And if you don't know who John Green is, well, my 557 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.000 gosh, I'm surprised you're even listening to the podcast. You should go get 558 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:49.880 a John greenbook and read it and then come back and listen to the podcast 559 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.239 later. But John Green did that, But he's not a He wasn't really 560 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:57.599 a field guy, even though he went to the field a fair amount. 561 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:04.119 I wouldn't I wouldn't categorize as mister Green as a field person. I would 562 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:09.039 write him up as more of a compiler, I suppose, yeah, and 563 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:15.719 presenting it in a way that it was compelling and thoughtful and persuaded people that 564 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.840 wow, there's something here. It looks like yeah, because even he didn't 565 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.599 think they were real at first. It was actually talking to witnesses, which 566 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.840 is what he excelled at, talking to witnesses and then recording what they said 567 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.039 and publishing it. That's what he really did. But again, I mean, 568 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:35.519 that's not that's not really what I like to do. And I'm not 569 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.440 a I'm perhaps not a great big footer, but I'm an okay big footer. 570 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.159 You know. I like field stuff. So when I when I look 571 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.159 at field stuff, I would like to say, bob titmus But I'll tell 572 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.239 you what, I don't know of a lot that he did, because most 573 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.440 of his records were destroyed. In a boat fire off British Columbia, and 574 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.360 in fact a lot of his footprint casts were also destroyed in that same boat 575 00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.679 fire, So he had a lot more data gathered than will ever know because 576 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:07.400 he was not out there drawing attention to himself. He'd never published really anything 577 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:13.280 about it. What little I know about Bob Titmas's field work is either from 578 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.960 people who had met him and interviewed him and that sort of stuff, or 579 00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:22.639 the stuff that he wrote on the back of original footprint casts. And all 580 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:29.719 of the remaining all the surviving footprint casts are in the Willow Creek China Flats 581 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.360 Museum down there in your neck of the woods and Willow Creek there, Yeah, 582 00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.840 and the most one behind glass. You can't really read what he wrote, 583 00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.079 but it's just mostly this is a footprint that's the same individual. I 584 00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.960 followed it for this far, this was the date, that kind of stuff. 585 00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:50.000 So very little is actually known about a lot of Bob Titmass field efforts. 586 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:54.119 But so which brings us to the next possible candidate. I think Tom 587 00:38:54.159 --> 00:39:00.760 Shay is way at the top of the list because Tom Shay is not only 588 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:06.519 compiling data, he has several stacks of spiral notebooks that he writes down little 589 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.639 things like temperature and date and this is what we found and stuff. But 590 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:13.199 he's also out there casting footprints, doing field work, following up on stuff, 591 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:21.360 which I think is also a signature of a great researcher is hearing about 592 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.199 something that happened recently in the last week or something and going out and looking 593 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.320 for sign To me, that that is what it takes to be a great 594 00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:35.760 research researcher. Is that level of diligence and commitment. Not hearing about the 595 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:38.000 oh, you saw one three days ago, let me write down what it 596 00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.679 is, and then don't do anything else about it. That's not enough to 597 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.920 me. That's not a great researcher. That's a mediocre researcher, just who's 598 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:51.639 only going after the words and not the evidence. To me, that that's 599 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.880 just my bar. You know, I would way rather have the evidence than 600 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.280 I would the words. The words are again are a signpost to go get 601 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:01.760 the evidence. So to me, that's what a great researcher is. You 602 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:06.719 do collect the story, but that doesn't end there. You go the extra 603 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.360 mile, You put your you put your button the car, and you get 604 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:12.119 out to the area and you put your boots on the ground and to see 605 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:14.679 what else there might be. Heck, it might be in the area. 606 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.599 Still, I mean that's what That's basically what Roger Matterson did. He was 607 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.559 working on information that was a few months old, but he basically went to 608 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.440 a spot where footprints were found recently and ran across another's ass. Watch and 609 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:29.679 those guys are all great trackers. Yeah, well, you know back then 610 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.440 in the you know, fifties and sixties and stuff like just I'll say, 611 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:37.639 like people were made of different stuff. You know. It's like talking about 612 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.119 the pioneers or something like that, like the we would all be dead if 613 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.679 we were pioneers, you know, but they made it somehow. You know, 614 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:47.880 we're standing on their shoulders as the people of a different caliber, men 615 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.639 and women, just a different caliber than what we do today. Who else, 616 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:53.559 what do you think? Both? So what are your thoughts on this? 617 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.039 I've kind of rambled for a while, and I'm sure i'll think of 618 00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.239 another in a minute, But what's on your mind? I mean, yeah, 619 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:06.239 it's when I say, like great researchers, there's there's different categories. 620 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:08.119 I mean, like John Green was the first, I mean he did such 621 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:14.480 a good job of presenting the evidence, you know, like straightforward and well 622 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:20.679 written and insightful and tying loose ends together and kind of showing you things like 623 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:27.239 Rainfall with his Rainfall's reports. Then you got Tom Schaa for surviving evidence. 624 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.079 He's number one. I mean technically, like I said, lost his stuff 625 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:36.800 in that boat fire, like I said, Roger, because Roger, Roger 626 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.639 got the best footage ever and he's been fifty something years fifty six years or 627 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.679 whatever. Yeah, and if I maybe about in a bit about Roger too, 628 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.880 I mean, everybody hangs their hat on the film. But Roger was 629 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.400 a legit bigfooter. He did chase down all the recent reports. He did 630 00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:57.800 cast a bunch of footprints, He recorded interviews with people about their signing reports. 631 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:01.000 He was literally the first person to ever were call blasts. A lot 632 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.239 of people claimed that they invented call blasting, that none of them did. 633 00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.679 Roger Patterson did. He would do. He would do vocalization calls off at 634 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.360 some tower he built on his property in Tampico by Yakima, Like he was 635 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.000 the first in so many because it's just just like this guy with endless energy 636 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.719 towards the subject, this deep level of fascination and obsession about the subject. 637 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:29.960 He was an astonishing researcher, and I only know a little bit about what 638 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.679 he collected. So in a few short years started collecting reports, he wrote 639 00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:37.800 a book, and he filmed One Man. What a decade for that guy. 640 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:43.320 What a decade. Yeah, I mean he was He died relatively young, 641 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.840 and he still had a good, good amount of time with him. 642 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:46.760 I think he would have done some more, you know, I got some 643 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.079 more results. Oh, I'm positive he would have. I mean, he 644 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.360 threw the money away that he earned on the film trying to get another one, 645 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:59.079 not trying to go get a body of one out of Indonesia. Yeah. 646 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:00.679 Yeah, he went down. He went down to Indonesia with Dennis Jensen 647 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:07.119 and tried to get a sasquatch that they were supposedly holding in a cage in 648 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.559 some monastery in Indonesia somewhere. The whole thing was a wild goose chase, 649 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.360 and he spent all his money and didn't get anything from it, and then 650 00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.840 he basically died a poor man a few years later. Hodgkin's disease, the 651 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.039 type of cancer. But yeah, so that's that's commitment. That's definitely commitment. 652 00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:25.159 Another whole branch of this big footing thing. The greatest big foot of 653 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.039 all time would have to be the scientific accomplishments. You know. Of course 654 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.880 we're all standing on Krantz's shoulders, but I mean Meldrum's standing on his and 655 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.360 further to Krantz's research, But there's also quiet scientists in the background that are 656 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.480 in some and a very small number that are just peeking their heads out of 657 00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:43.880 their holes right now kind of looking at this big foot thing. So I'm 658 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.800 really curious once Meldrum retires, you know, who's going to step in and 659 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:53.360 take the spot. Hopefully we're on the verge of a new wave of big 660 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:58.079 footers, at least in the scientific realm, that it'll just push us all 661 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.559 out of the way and we can sit back and enjoy learning about the subject 662 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:06.800 from real professionals once the species has proven as real. Yeah. So anyway, 663 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:07.960 that's that's my thought on the on the matter, you know, But 664 00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:12.679 that's from a very you know, Cliff and Bobo centric perspective as well, 665 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.199 though we all have our opinions. We all have our thoughts about what makes 666 00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:21.280 a good big footer. Three in my top ten all right, Cool, 667 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.559 you're going to the All Star Game, am I? Well, I appreciate 668 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.840 that. That's very kind of you. That's very kind of you. I'm 669 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:29.920 just trying to do the best I can with what little time I have. 670 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:32.920 Next, the next one is who's done the most damaged the big Foot? 671 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.400 Oh? All of us. That's a group effort there, Bobs. We 672 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:46.360 couldn't have done it without every other member of our community. Well, that's 673 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:51.559 great and soaked. I love the questions we get because it throws us on 674 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.039 topics we'd never get too. But they're good topics. So yeah, keep 675 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:58.360 those coming in, folks. We'll got one voicemail this time. I mean 676 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.320 hit us up. I know you got because I get people write to me 677 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:06.239 on my personal page all the time, ask me questions and right to hear. 678 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.480 So everyone, I don't have to answer the same questions one hundred times. 679 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.519 I can just say it once on here, So hit us up, 680 00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.920 get on the bottom on the page here and hit the link and send send 681 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.760 us some questions or whatever. We're ready for it. Yeah, and we 682 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.920 really do enjoy these episodes because, as we pointed out a few a few 683 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.039 months ago, we don't know what the questions are like, we literally have 684 00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.480 no idea what prue It doesn't give us a list before we go on the 685 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.000 air or anything. We're completely ill prepared for almost every show, honestly, 686 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.719 but we show up and prue It types the things in, we see it 687 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.880 in the group chat, and we answer them. These are all surprised questions. 688 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.599 These are all surprised voicemails you leave. We have no preparation for this 689 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.840 sort of thing at all, and that's part of the fun of this whole 690 00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.559 thing. But just as a reminder at the end of this episode, here 691 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.199 if you have a question, go ahead and hit that link in the show 692 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.360 notes and you can submit it. Or if you're on your phone and your 693 00:45:55.400 --> 00:46:00.800 drive and just remember Bigfoot, end Beyond podcast dot com and you can go 694 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:04.119 there and hit the contact button and leave us a voicemail or email us a 695 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.719 question. We depend on you to help supply us with some content, some 696 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.079 things to talk about, and we really do enjoy it and we really appreciate 697 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.199 it. But now we're gonna go do a members episode thing because we have 698 00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:15.760 a member section. Perhaps you're already a member, which case you get to 699 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.760 hear this episode later in the week. But members get their own section for 700 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.599 submitting questions, and we're going to go answer just the member stuff right now. 701 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:28.960 If you want to be a member, click those show notes or again, 702 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:31.800 go to the go to the podcast the website big Foot and Beyond podcast 703 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.519 dot com, and hit the membership button and then I'll tell you all about 704 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.599 it. It's cool stuff. Even even you know this is how cool it 705 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:43.360 is. Even Bobo is a member, and I kid you not, that's 706 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.039 how much he likes the podcast. Bobo is a member of his own podcast 707 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:52.599 because everything we say is so surprising. It even surprises Bobo. I myself 708 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:59.159 constantly. All right, Bob surprises by getting a sattie. 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