Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the second episode of the Gimmick.
I'm not going to keep count in the future because I know I'll forget,
but it is the second inaugural or whatever that may be, and eventually
I will try and get some actual music here. But we got lots to
talk about today. My name is Terested now as usual the Canadian Nightmare,
and I'm joined by the man who is just a plethora of props behind him.
I'm quite impressed because I always had that stuff and I try. But
you got a good setup going on. But David, how are you doing
this morning? I'm doing good. Tired from a long night one of WrestleMania,
the show, the post show and everything else, but I'm good.
Yeah. I never think about like I do, but I just always feel
bad, especially for you on WW or AW those events that are going to
like midnight one am, where for me it's like eight or nine pm.
It's like, oh, it's all good. But like that's why all pay
per views other than rest because the night one night too. AW have it
on a Saturday, w you have it on Saturday, like the Sunday pay
per views need to die. That's it. Like we all work the deck
date. No one wants to stay at that late and watch, especially for
you guys in Eastern We've like it's like twelve one. You're getting up there,
you know. Yeah, Saturdays are the better option, just all around.
And we're joined by the man who has a draft in the background.
He's gonna up. I'm looking for a new background right now. He's looking
for some sort of his cody gonna pop up. Who knows, but s
webs is here. How's it going, sir? It's going good good.
Well, yeah, it's your first WrestleMania right because you start watching. Yeah,
we're watching on live. Yeah yeah, so yeah, what's gonna happen
is we're gonna get right into it. Everything you need to know is down
below. I'm not gonna plug it because we got a big show to talk
about. The only thing I'll plug is later on tonight. If you're a
podcast listener, this won't matter because just the night one night two reviews will
be in the feed cometime Monday morning. But if you are watching live or
listen to Sunday right after US Many, we will be live. We did
plan been going a few days later, but between all our schedules, it
just wasn't working out. They're like, Okay, by the time we could
get to Mania, it might be like a five week something like, not
five weeks that'd be that'd be obscene, but five days, two weeks,
like okay, we'll do this now. But yeah, so you're getting two
episodes, so just look up for that. But yeah, we're talking about
restuming in night one. We're gonna talk about see them Punk and a Deevil.
We're gonna have about standing on the Liver. So there is a lot
to get into. So we're just gonna break it down sas pubs. I
will start with you your first WrestleMania. How was Night one? Overall?
I'm not I don't know if we score this a rank or whatever it may
be. I'm not sure are you using yeah, I saw your Twitter using
a five star system for matches. I don't know if we'll yeah start for
this one. I didn't really have ratings, like yeah, just watching it
like live, I'm not really thinking about like the ratings the first some of
them. I'm seeing it. Yeah, But I did like it overall,
I see like compared to like last year, which is like the only one
I've seen, right, I think I like the Night one of that one
better because I think that one was all like those are all like great matches,
i'd say, but I still really like this one. I felt like
I went by really quickly even compare compared to last years too, because last
year there were a few times where like the pace was going and then have
like the Miz segment or like and it's just like him talking for like fifteen
minutes. I didn't think this one had like really any like of that extra,
like any promos or backstage segments. I think as you watch it recently,
did they do the whole fame both nights of the people come out and
wave and everything? Or no they had they had it the first night,
okay everyone. There were a couple of minions where they did do that.
They had everyone out, And it's like why for both nights, like just
picking night White, Night one or night too, And I feel like Night
two is better for the whole fame. It's the last night they say goodbye.
But I think you're right as far as there was less like trim like
they trimmed the fat this year because the Miz remember two, that was two
segments. You had the Snoop Dogg one with Shane Rip to Shane'squad. I
hope it was doing good. And then you had who do you wrestle?
First night again? First that was it was mac Well he started the show
like hosting it, and then he had like went to announce the attendance,
and then it was like the McAfee fight. Alright McAfee, Yeah, yeah,
somehow he's had three matches at WrestleMania already, so you know they won't
mention who he lost to. But overall overall good show. But you'd say
Night one for last year is better. Yeah, yeah, okay, there
where are you at? So I loved it, and I actually did do
a star rating for my matches, so as we I'll tell you what my
star ratings are because I did star them. Match one was a loaded card,
man, and just looking at it beforehand, and then even so in
retrospect, like it was a loaded card. So I this was a good
way to start it off. I felt like last year and year before,
since they started the two nights, it's kind of been easing into it,
and then they stacked the second half of Night two, but this one was
just loaded throughout there was two matches that, in my opinion, under delivered.
But it under delivered is kind of a loaded statement. You know,
the bar was set high for them to under deliver, but that is just
a great show. I'm interested to see what the other one is because I
know, I feel like I feel like I only have like what I'm trying
to think, like what the second one would be because for me, I'll
tell you what the first one is everybody, but I feel like I'm trying
to I don't think for me, I don't think I had a second one
that under delivered. I think they were all at like as good or better
than I thought they would be. I think I might be there. Yeah,
I think so, because the main event I kind of thought, like
we'll get into that, I'd only under delivered, but yeah, we'll get
into it. But yeah, other than the usso which if you listen to
the internet, they like fucking killed like twenty thousand dogs, like they had
the worst match the centrum, like my good Like I don't know like this,
we'll get into this is like my theme of the whole episode, especially
you know Dave's been watching for a long time as well. It's just like,
uh, we're gonna start there. I thought Night one was really good
because I just want to get to that direction. I thought Night one was
really good. I don't think it was like the last few years where Night
one was so good, we're Night two, it's like, oh man,
it they're kind of screwed. I think Night two actually could be the first
year that Night two is better than Night one. It's always been a narrative
and it always has happened. But I think Drew and Seth could be great.
The main event could be great, Bailing Eo could be great. The
street fight thing is gonna be good, like kind of just like kind of
equivalent to the ladder matches, and I think to tonight's gont have lots of
surprises, so I actually think it could. But yeah, so overall,
I think it was good. I think we got to me. You got
a WrestleMania main event as far as like it feeling big and important, so
that delivers on it. I don't think the main event always has to be
the best match night. It's kind of like a bonus of it is.
Uh, we both we all talked about like, oh, what's gonna be
the best match and for me, Sammy and gun there and Ry and Becky.
I have to watch them back because I'm very torn. It's very in
the middle. So I thought it was a good night, but then the
rest was kind of kind of around, like it's all passable stuff even and
that's where we'll start. We're not going to order. I guess I just
want to start here because I was gonna throw this question to David, so
maybe he'll disagree. I don't know, but I feel like in the years,
I am now thirty years old, so I've been watching wrestling for about
twenty nine, twenty and a half. Because my grandma always jokes like,
oh, you've been watching wrestling since you're six months old. That can't be
an accurate statement. But I'm just gonna go with her because it's a good
gimmick to have. I just feel like, especially we'll talk about the Attitude
Air a lot. Living through the Attitude Era, I've seen much much worse.
I think this is just if you want to put it in the oh,
one of the most disappointing matches. I could kind of get there,
but even like last week, the whole thing of Jay White versus Billy gun
Right and I want to hey this because Billy Gunn just kind of squashed them.
That to me is like much worse than what the USOS were doing here.
Was it kind of a clutch that they replaced every move with us Superkick?
Sure, but like we even talked though was gonna happen. So I
think that match for me was underwhelming. I think that everyone including myself,
was hoping for a lot more emotion and they didn't. They didn't go that
route. I'm not sure if it's time. I'm not sure if it's just
because I don't think Jimmy is like an All Star singles. But where are
you, David? On the on the USO's match, So lusa's match,
I gave two and a half stars. Okay, it was middle, it
was middle of the road. I think that they could have done better.
I don't know what was hampering them from doing better. I mean, the
crowd was absolutely hot for Jay, just absolutely hot for j from the moment
he walked out. Then they had super Kick Party Part one, then they
went into trading blows with the Yeat versus No yet the super Kick Party part
two. I was like it it was it was good, but I felt
like there could have been as much as and I'm glad I won the super
kick addictions, but as much as I like the superkick aspect of it,
I would have liked just some more pure aggressive like coming out the gate brawling
around like the rolling around that we saw La Night and aj Styles do.
I would have liked that kind of brawling around at one point like this just
to sends into brother versus Brother madness, where it was more of a let's
get the spots that people are going to cheer, and then the whole I'm
sorry stopping them from the superkick. I was like, eh, I didn't
really need that in this type of match. Again, I want you to
to brawl until someone just can't brawl anymore, because that's what the video package
built up to, that's what the storyline has been building up to. I
just needed brawl so we can't brawl anymore. And that was the disappointing part
for me. The match itself is not as bad as the Internet will have
you believe, but oh if I love that it's not as bad as the
Internet, what have you believed? I just felt like it could have been
more, and it kind of makes me think back to Cody and Dustin's match
when they went and put it on WrestleMania and then it got relegated to a
different pl chamber. It was yeah, yeah, and I remember Cody had
that weird ass star gust he at one point did a start Us outfit without
the top. Remember it was just pants and the gloves, and it was
like the weird It was not a good look, and the match like had
very little time. Yeah, So it reminded me of that, like it
could have been better, but just something about it. It just felt like
they had to just go spot heavy instead of telling their story. And that's
the part that was missing for me. I didn't expect a five star match
out of those two. Again, Jay is phenomenal, Jimmy's been doing great.
I didn't expect five stars. I did expect better than Middle of the
Road, and that's just because they went more spot heavy than story heavy.
Two things, One Hunter about your triple h Osprey question. We'll get to
that. One kind of talk about aw dramas well. I'll put that in
there. And to screw you, David for convincing me Jimmy was gonna win.
I should have went with my gut. You had such a good pitch
on the prediction that I switched and everything, but the man that did go
with jay Uzo. S Bubbs, how did you feel about this? Because
I feel like, you know, you're new to the game, so when
you see lots of people being like this is in the Hall of Fame for
worst matches ever, it's like tru I would say, trust us, and
like it's definitely not there is so like I'm sorry, like I feel that
to be mean, Like I feel like we've seen like worst, Like even
Maxine Depre the past couple months. She's learning. That's great. I'm not
telling her to go away. Everyone can start bad. Not everyone gonna be
Logan Paul or kurd Angle. But in your short time watching wrestling now,
you know, coming on a year soon, is this the worst match you've
ever seen? S? S Bubs Is? I don't think so. I
think like a worse match for me would be like if it was just like
completely like boring for me. This is like it was getting like funnier each
time they hit more more super kicks, because it was just getting so ridiculous
that like this, like they're well in the in the w W two K
games, the superkick isn't even like their their signature finisher anymore. It's just
like the end of combo move. Like if your press square square X,
that's a that's a super kick. So it's just like, I don't know.
I mean, I did like watching it. I was like, I
didn't think it was like that good, but I didn't think it was like
like just like off while I was like, okay, like j One and
that's it, and they had like sort of a little story moment that Jimmy's
still bad or whatever. Yeah, and I was kind of weird. I
was, I'm interested. I guess I feel like now Jimmy is gonna be
on Roman side because I thought if there was gonna be a switch, they
would have tease that like a little more after the match. That's one thing
I will say felt and maybe that was the turn that felt. It felt
like the aftermatch was a lot quicker. For all the matches I fil at
WrestleMania, they almost they sit around for a little long, but last night
felt very like, Okay, we're moving on. We're moving on, Like
there was not much time to breathe, which there's pros and cons to that,
but you gotta give Rockyes, the match was forty four and I like
with it so because I can't remember. Entrance was seventeens all together. That
was an our wrestlemanian So we'll we'll get there. But yeah, so we'll
honestly see them again tonight. And uh, like I said, yeah,
I don't think it's the word I to me just thought it was fine.
I think, yeah, David Square, I'd probably be like around there,
like a two point five, but maybe even the three for like some charisma.
You know, we got, we got what people wanted, and that
was Jay standing on the top rope doing his move with the whole crowd like
that was the reason to get him there. I think Jay can be on
to bigger things coming next year and whatnot. Happy to have him. We
had the greatest rapper of all time with them. That was the worst entrance,
absolute worst entrance, my guy. I Oh that was because he rap
for like twenty seconds and then they just went to Jay's music and then it's
just a little wind back and like that's him that he's doing a booker t
Like I think maybe it was like because last year they had the little oozy
performance and like if you look at like the crowd videos, by the time
he's like halfway through, they're just like booing NonStop. So I think they're
like, we don't want him to get booed out there, so just put
him for like twenty seconds. Like I said, that was the on the
discord. Check out our discord. We're always on some wrestler in there.
That was the best entrance since Wrestling nineteen when introduced Lymphis as their favorite band
ever. And you know, I don't know if that we haven't got a
theme song since then. But we'll go back now to the very beginning where
it did start with three and Becky. I thought this could be matched to
the Weekend. We'll have to see. Like I said, I'm even torn
because I think gud there and Sammy was really good as well, So I
think I'm gonna have to stew on it for different reasons. But for me,
what I loved about this is just different sequences. I love to the
very end, the how we got to the rip Tide, which is like
multiple counters into Rage's rip tidening her on like a like a buckle bomb,
and then hitting another rip tide. The fact that they pulled off that electric
chair from the inside to the ring to the outside. I feel like I've
seen stuff like that all the time go bad and you're like, oh,
they tried, like I got what they're going for, but they botched.
Like it remind me of WrestleMania. Gosh, what was it now with Sasha
and Bianca thirty six thirty seven? Now it's like it's been a moment.
I was when they did the spot where Bianca picked up Sasha and she walked
up the steps. Yeah, and there's so many times where it's like people
try that cool video game stuff and it just doesn't work because it's hard.
But that's for me. Where the Salmon got the thing, I think Sam
got the thing had the emotional side, but this had lots of great technique.
Entrances were cool. They both looked like stars. Rea Ripley looked like
a megastar. The CGI book was maybe you know, it was all right.
I wish there was like I wish it was like the Bootio's Zero Box.
A couple of years they would. I mean, I thought it looked
pretty realistic because at first I thought it was like the first like the huge
but stage until she walked through it, like I mean, I thought it
was cool. Yeah, but like that part of it, this match for
me delivered Ri as a star. I don't I would still put Ria and
Charlotte over this one last year because I think that got a little more time
because as we've heard, Charlotte apparently threw a big dick around whatnot. But
I thought this was a great match, and for me, it's contention for
Match to the Weekend. But I have to watch and we all went with
Rio's the right pick, and you know, move on this as as like
my match so far as like favorite because like the Goon the one like it
definitely got there in the end. But at first, when he's just like
getting destroyed by Gun there, you're like, oh, so, like there's
like a squash or something. And then he starts like he starts like hulking
up, and that's when it's great. But it gets good. I actually
saw like a side by side that like El Jenerica used to to like do
that like when he was on the ground and like squirm around like that was
like the spirit coming back to Sammy in that moment. Yeah, I have
Gun through Sammy and Rhea and Becky both at four and a half stars for
the match. I've been going back and forth on which one is my favorite.
It's probably going to take a rewatch just to figure that out. I
mean, Ree and Becky had those incredible entrances as well, and yeah,
they they had some incredible spots, but gear too. The book on Becky's
gear that was really crative, from the beginning of reading the book to the
book on her gear. Then Ria with motionlessen why I'm going to have to
get used to read with long hair. But other than that, like they
were just all out. But man, something about that Sammy versus going through
the heart chops the heart clothes lines by both of them, I mean,
their chest being read, Sammy hulking back up. I mean. The only
thing is, like with Sammy's entrance, they gave him the heroic come into
the ring entrance. They they built him up. I'm like, this is
either going to be Sammy's guaranteed winning or this is going to be bad when
he loses. Once I saw Ko, I knew I said the discord like
that. To me, it's just like that's like because they're trying very hard
and there is aspects to make them like this generations like Eddie and Ben Waugh
and like, and I that is a worry like people have said, like
to me, and even n s Pub said in discord, not worry.
Yeah, I as I'm saying, like Ko's gonna hit Logan with the package
pile driver and Steenalizer in the corner and all that, and just like do
they recreate the whole Sammy Us champ or Ic and then Kevin Owens us and
they like because they love like wrestling. The thirty was kind of done to
like they wanted Dan O'Brien to have the Ben Wall moment, Like it's the
exact same moment people saying that's why they had so they can just have the
sound clip of saying, well, and that's where it's just like this can
be Oh, it's two best friends who have traveled the road together for twenty
years with titles, you know, in a big match. So now for
the first time, I'm like, man, Logan, Paul could maybe lose.
I'm still gonna pick him, but Samy getting it. But like I
said, when we saw Koe, I'm like, oh, there's no way
he's gonna lose. You can't have Kao fire him up and then like he
just he takes the job. You know. My giveaway was when Gonthers spent
too much time taunting U Sammy's wife Kadija out in the crowd. I was
like, oh, this isn't gonna go well. I honestly thought that he
was gonna go for a third splash and then he was gonna end up getting
rolled up and that was gonna be it. I thought something like that,
like FTR Bucks won, because that's what happened with Cash, right. He
went to the top and screwed himself. So I thought they were doing that
too. Actually yeah, so but once and then he gets up hits that
top ro breakbuster that just looked incredible, followed by the halluva kick. I
was like, yep, that's it. Hit on like the middle rope,
if you like, he goes like past the for like the top turn buckle
and like bounces off. You see him bounce like he like rolled backwards to
the center of the ring pretty much off the bounce on the middle rope.
Especially Gouther is like he's a tall guy, you know, Like I audibly
gas because like people have made it, you know, I don't know why
the keep comparing Meal Generico. I don't know. I don't know why they
came up, but still if it was the case, uh I, we
haven't seen that so long, and that's why at first I gassed because I
know it's the top romain, the brainbuster, but because we hadn't seen it,
I was like, did this Like was there a slip and he just
bought for a seconds like, oh man, Guther is done. But no,
I thought that was a great That was a great moment. The two
Haluva kicks like they made Guther still look like it's great because yeah, he
took the like super finisher, like two more finishers. And you can also
say, like the reason he lost is because he got arrogant and overcocky,
right, Like that's some of the best thing to do as a heel,
because it is he had him with a bunch of finishers, And you could
argue, well, if he just paid attention to Sammy and didn't underestimate him,
he would have just still won, right he could have strike while it
was hot, So I thought they protected him. Well. I was surprised,
As I said in the predictions, I did not think Guther was gonna
lose here because I guess it all depends on what they do with the world
title. But I just feel like I don't know because everyone's saying like,
oh, it's gonna be him in that pay review challenging for the title.
But it's like, I just don't know if you have him lose, you
know. So now I'm under the impression because everyone in their mother thinks Seths
losing tonight. I think there's actually a good shot that Seth is. I
think Seth's retaining and that actually he might drop it to Guther there, and
that might be the thing because I think Guther, if Seth certains, you
would have all faces this champions baby, come on now. Yeah, I
guess Waller in theory and Drew would be the only heel. Yeah the hold
yeah, people's champ too. You got rock a title, had it last
night, catching on the all the people and he still loses. That would
be the best the rock just fucking rock Bottom z of one the eight second
match. But yeah, I think that to me, that's the play is
Guth winning that title there. I just because if you bring him there to
lose to Cody or Seth or whoever it is, that's just like what do
you do next with him? And I know might feel odd to be like,
oh two months later or when does that event? Actually? Oh yeah,
there's tons of time. So I feel like that's I can still see
Seth hold it till then, and that's who you drop it to. I
think Cody and Guther will happen, but I think that's like you hold off
till they can like have like a I've said the discord like a best of
five, like I think Guther should beat him and they get like that's one
where it actually wouldn't mind. I like the title got hot potato. I
don't know, but I was surprised Sammy one. Sorry for the Gable fans
Gable manias, it's dead, it's over. That'll be a good match though,
like Sammy Gable. So do you guys think that Gunther is gonna go
for a rematcher? You think he moves on. I'm personally hoping he just
moves on to other stuff and they don't have him lose a bunch to like
trying to get the Icy title back. But I don't know, I don't
move on. I feel like Goonther, like the thing about him is like
he's a heel, but he never like cheats and his whole thing is like
he's like all about like the ring and wrestling. So I think if like
he would see this as like, you beat me fairly, like it was
my mistake that I didn't like look out for you. That'd be great on
RAW if you come out and you think he's just gonna fuck sam me up,
but he just like shakes his hand or gives that praise and leaves like
that'd be great, especially too because apparently RAW is in Montreal in like two
weeks or something. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be a hot crowd.
That'll be good. So I think, especially too because Triple H confirmed on
Long Paul Show that the draft is in like a month, which I could
see goons. I saw people saying Gunther like King of the Ring or maybe
you get Goon the like against Sammy somewhere there. I don't know if because
it's a tournament, I'm fine with it. Just don't fucking make Gutha wear
cape at a crown. You know, you can still like the first night,
sure, but like you can win King of the like Edge one and
King of the Ring. He wasn't King Edge for like a whole fucking year,
same kred angle like he won it. He wore it for a couple
of shows after then it was just King of Ring winner, Like, I
don't need King Corbin. I don't need something like there's certain characters like when
Xavier Woods want it, that's perfect, someone like I actually think for some
reason like Carmelo Hayes, like if he would ever win it, you could
rock like yeah, but there's other people King Mellow that that one works like
that. Yeah, cool, But I don't need King. Don't don't like
if I don't get my Chelsea Green money in the event, I can see
like Queen Queen, oh Chelsea Green ass, Queen of the Ring would just
be absolute class. I would be here for that. That's the worst possible
to get me with. Come on, producers, Uh yeah, but yeah
no, Like, because we're talking about them both, says David, I
need to rewatch them. Maybe there'll be something tonight that'll be the best match
and then I don't have to have that struggle. But for me, it
was that story. It was that hulking up. It was the stuff with
the wife. I agree with. That was at the beginning. There's like
a little bit more of like, Okay, it was very one sided,
but I guess I did build up the end, but no, I thought
they did a great job. And both matches didn't deliver like or didn't didn't
underdeliver. They you know, we both thought they had good potential and they
both did really well. So I'm very excited to see where we go from
both sides. I don't know if Becky, I know lots of people are
like, oh, this could be your last thing, because she has two
months left her in contract and she was looking pretty emotional last night. I
think there could be more there though. That's one where I could see you
could do multiple matches, where with Gunther and Sammy, I don't want them
to go that route. But yeah, they both fantastic stuff. You know,
I'm glad they were both great. Let's see after you and Becky we
got I don't think I have that actual ladder match. Yeah, and this
was my second disappointment. Really, Okay, you start, yeah, well
you were disappointed by this one. This, but I'm just putting with this
one. Three main reasons. One the short entrances. You had all these
people who had twenty thirty seconds. Yeah, and like for d why to
have the DX entrance and New Day to have their entrance for it to be
just so short and so rushed. I was just like, man, this
is kind of you're taking some of the sale out of the importantness of this
match. I mean, awesome truth hadn't even gotten to the second part of
their rap when they're like and moving on New Catcher Public didn't even get a
full entrance because half of their was awesome scale. And then they kept like
I like the overhead shot, especially in ladder matches, but they kept doing
it during rest periods, so you could see people were just obviously lying around
and wait for their next spot. And I was like, m it was
just That's the one where I noticed in the corner the Grayson Waller was like
it like on the floor and you're just crawling over to the to the prime
cart and he kind of grabbed a prime and started drinking it on the floor.
So and then my third part with that was with a town down Under,
and I felt like they could have done more to try and be unified.
Changings, Like we all knew what they that they were gonna split the
belts, but I think other than okay, after they got the belt,
then going all right, let's get the other. After that they pretty much
were not in the match. I feel like they just struck because one of
who got to like then like Theory get put through tables and then Waller got
put through ladders. Waller got one of the which is like after Resume twenty
three, the very first time ever, it was Jeff Hardy jumping off a
ladder on the edge and that's when we saw break. Ever since then,
they've just spam that to like last night, like all the moves are hard,
right, they're all dangerous, but I feel like Catch Republic, they
like power Pond Waller, but like it was with so Less Fossy, it's
like this ladder would not break. I know it's the way. It's like
kind of made and bent that way, but it was it didn't feel to
me like always taken out, but he was. I did like the image
of him holding the title. So I guess we're not gonna be getting babyface
Theory as people. They're gonna break up, I guess, and we'll get
there. I was surprised by that. I thought this match was what it
needed to be. I thought always there was too many people because some of
those like Money in the Bank's early rest of Me, like Rest of twenty
one that is legitimately one of the greatest ladder matches of all time. And
that's where it's like with six guys even seven, you can plan like some
cohesion where this is just like kind of get your shit in. So I
was I was fine with it. It was It was a fun time.
I think there's a lot of good spots. Yeah, that JD spot scared
me. The fact that he took that table bump by the guardrail a few
inches and you are done, like I like, because you always take that
bump on the ramp side, the table bump. So that was very impressive,
very like. I was scared for him. I think he took it
like legs towards the barricade. Yeah. Still, that's oh my. Then
d I Wy and knew catch Republic with their I saw I saw the tornado
today out the tornado d C. If you if you look back at it,
like people zoomed it out, like Gargano takes all of it, oh
like like you protected, uh done, but his back just like hits the
floor like Gargana the air that's the second craziest air raid crash I've seen now.
The first craziest back in their n X two days during the War Games
match when he does it off of this steel cage, but this is probably
still this was I'm just like ooh. And my girlfriend, who never watches
wrestling, uh, was sitting in the room with me when that happened.
She just looked and she saw it. She goes his back and I'm like,
yeah, I'm not saying any way away anything away from Gargana and done,
because that's been the bump that people have been talking about. But for
me, it was Bait and Chaumpa being up there because like there's no way
for Bait to let he just had. He's just gonna land. You just
have to take that. Yeah, he like bounced. We're like even Gargana
he can protect them. You're going through and it's like look at the height
from the aprom to the floor versus the ring. Like it's just I was
surprised they let them do that because even the War Games that was higher,
but technically at least there was tables to kind of cushion that fault. This
was just directly on the mat, so kudos to them. They took you
know, Gargano said like, oh wait till we see it what we do
at WrestleMania. And like I said, I think this was like a fun
spot for the crowd. It's a car crash, it's a good time.
I was happy with Truth winning because you know, I don't have a problem
with him winning. I hope you didn't want to be take champs. I
don't think it'll be a long run. It'll be like a month or two.
They got their Mania moment cool. I was shocked by a town down
because I just to me, this does show that I think maybe we'll get
there with the Theory turn. But I'm still going with I'm gonna be you
know, I'm I'm gonna rock my Travis. Theory is that I don't think
Austin Theory is the guy. I think they've realized that he's not that guy
yet. So he's just tag team person now, which is fine because maybe
you can get hot like a couple of years ago, so sorrow at wrestling
Theory that's how he got hot. I was like, wait, like we
the people whatever they I can't remember what the hell they call that. Him
and Swag or had like some official name. But maybe the tag team will
get Theory hot. But that's where I think they know. Okay, maybe
as a singles guy, this is not where it is. I think him
and Waller they'll have good matches, they'll be entertaining. But I was surprised.
I thought Triblacious Kids and DIY would actually would actually get it there.
So I was kudos to them. And yeah, the second we saw the
titles, we knew it was being split. They couldn't be further further apart.
And Judgment Day maybe with the worst wrestlemanic gear of all time that I
thought it looked goofy. It was silly. I think they I'm pe purple
Kane. I'm very curious what they do with Damien because I do think Judgment
Day is at a point other than Ria where they need to They got to
heat him up a little bit. Now I do worry to the point its
almost like Damien has to has to win, and that could be like what
gets the Mare because if he loses, that faction is like maybe it's time
to summer Slam, call it quits and end and have them turned on Riha
give us Ria versus Dom half her beat the shit out of him and Dom,
JD, Finn David four way at smert that or it could be like
Dom and uh Damien versus JD and Finn because Jad and Finn are like they've
been together for years. So I think you could do some fatal four way
tag team, Like if Damien doesn't win or they don't have a big angle,
I think it might be time to especially Ria too. I feel like
she's like out rolling them so much now, you know, Like I feel
like she's just not that they're holding her back. But they could if they
become like close to the job squad, like we'll see it's all about the
fun they already have like the B team of the of the Judgment Day,
right, Like that's what I mean, Like I there because that's what I
think could be. Or at least even them turning on Rhea, that could
be what gets them hot and just makes a man we hate the Judgment Day
because they can't, Like I don't think they're gonna beat her up, Like
I don't think they'll go that route, but I don't know if they replace
her, I think Dom can hit her the edge segment again what they're putting
live in the Judgment thing kicking real that honestly, man, that is not
a bad idea. I would not be like they could like what Judgment day
is, they could like handcuff Rio and then Live beats the ship like I
think Dom can hit Ria once because Ria is gonna beat the ship at it
all, Like I cannot wait for that day where Dom has to take the
rip tide like it's gonna be that pop is gonna be huge. So the
live Morgan thing, that actually is not a bad idea. That could come
up again a bit. I've got an idea and instead of live, I
love Living. I don't know if she could lead in that way. There's
been speculation on returning Alexis Bliss. I think Alexa Bliss could more be the
maniacal bad girl full time if it was a two fer. What if you
did them both, so you give Ria some people to work with Alexa and
live together kind of doing the like Dark Girl, you know, Nightmare Mysterious
people like the Kick because I feel I don't know, because then we have
what that's a faction. Well, I guess you're only adding one more if
Rihea's gone and another one, Like I think there needs to be something big
and they are. I think they are doing something because they keep talking about
how they're bickering, arguing, right, they're not getting along, and I
think Dom easily can just go with like whatever the super Latino Heel faction is.
I would love Finn to go back to like babyface, like get the
cra like. I think he needs a new code of paint. I don't
know what you're gonna do with Damien other than the like Damien I think is
tough. I think, uh, I don't know, maybe Bad Bunny comes
back, you give them a round of the team champs. I don't know.
I think Damien's next opponent is gonna be the referee tried to tell him
not to climb that ladder. I was so like luckily good on the good
on the ref right because you know, doesn't want him get hurt, but
it would. It took me on the match where she's just pulling his leg
like don't on that fucking It's like geez, like this is like but it
all worked out and everything, but yeah, we'll see, but yeah,
like here was just not good. It was like, especially Finn's it just
looks like some sack with like like scarecrow, Like you're right, like you
said it was Riddler, but looked more like Killy Murphy's scarecrow like to me,
like when they're like croud shots and like everyone's fighting. You would just
see his hair like his hair is outrageous. So so what do you guys
wear? Are you? Because I see Pickings pre just gonna cash in?
And Phil Night? Where are you guys on cash and watch tonight? Is
gonna happen? Is it gonna fail? Try? Do you think it's tomorrow
and wrong? Okay? I I think it's it's tomorrow and raw. I
don't see him cashing in tonight. I with the thought process of this.
They keep talking about it if if he does, if he tries to cash
and I don't think it will be a successful cash and I think something will
stop it. I could even see see him punk stopping him from cashing in,
because I don't think that that Who wants to see Damien cm punk is
There's just too many there's too many cogs in the wheel right now with this
trifecta of Drew Seth and see him punk. Now you're gonna add Damien in
there and take that title away. Like this whole thing about the title and
Drew having his moment, Seth being the workhorse champion, see him Punk getting
his moment. All of that is just too large of a scuter. Then
throwing Damien, who hasn't really been that strong lately. What I want now,
I want dam I want Seth to be not one. I don't really
care because I like Drew. I like Seth. I'm kind of if Drew
wins, great, Drew deserves that moment. I think I think there's a
route of both ways of Seth or Drew winning and it being the opposite of
your senior day where Punk gts is the person and then Damien gets to cover
and I would almost like in a way we're not because they fight, like
because I guess I don't know what Punk's arm is like, but I would
like it in a way where Damien's coming down and Punk actively helps Damien get
the win just to fuck over that other person. Like imagine the heat if
Seth goes through what we did last night, beats Drew, Damien's music hit
and Punk there's like low blows rolls and like, I don't think they want
Punk to be a heels. That's why I think he could do it to
Drew and then imagine Drew. Magine if Drew wins and Punks like screws him
and helps Damien Cash. Like, I think there is a chance at whoever
it is. And I think that's why we like you have like Punk like
like start like walk off the desk, start talking to the to the referee
or something, and then like Damien Low blows Drew and then something yeah or
Punk tells the referees doing something else and like right after Damien Low blows,
so he's like, look, you just start counting now. I think that
either because I did think about because Seth will be in the main event,
right and I feel like I think he's winning. I just feel like they're
going really hard last night. I feel like maybe maybe SI's not Like maybe
it's like Drew destroys his knee and he's like, well, that's now not
gonna be in the Like who else is Cody gonna have as backup? Like
you said, it's not gonna be able to be here, like there's no
one else who can help Coder or something like that. They're gonna say,
and that's what's very fun with it being the first match night, there's tons
of scenarios, Like, there's like six different ways this match can go.
Damie could even cash make a triple threat, right, he could pull cephrons
on cephrons, which I actually think would be really fun. I think that
would be a fun and especially if Sepher to lose that way, that'd be
a really full circle moment of last night. He kept like years ago cashing
Roman. Last night he made invented a resume of Roman, and now nine
years later he's getting the same thing done to Hit, Like I either think
there's like there's so much you can do here and luckily with it Triple h
and everybody in the crew, I trust them. It was v cam,
we would have been fucked because Damian would squash them both. Mate, And
I don't know, like I know someone's saying that a l a night if
he swallowed that gum with Betsy would have been squashed by Yeah, don't you
gump kid, come on like or that would have been his gimmick. You'd
be like, I want you to jump on gum all the time. So
but yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I think we all thought truth and
MS were either one or two, and they I said, they'll have a
little run. That'll be nice. Don't know who they'll lose it to.
I hope it's not a case where they just have it and on Raw just
lose to the Judgment Day in a rematch. I really don't want them to
do that. I'm fine with miss and Truth holding for a small amount,
but I don't need it going right back to judgment Day, and I could
easily see them doing that. We just want Truth to get the moment,
So I hope not if it's somebody have it, somebody else, have an
NXT team, have a different team, turn heel whatever, wait till the
draft and put over team like have new Catch because I think Pete Done and
Tyler Bait I think they might be better flipped as well as a heel.
I think they can only go so far. Like Pete Done is a natural
born heel. He needs to get back. If you want like like new
tag team designs, like for the Belts, could you get like could you
get like Ron Baker, Baron Corvin beat Like let's say like awesome Truth.
You may make those two like make the NXT and Raw a belt and then
turn the SmackDown ones into like how they made like the ron SmackDown Women's championships,
like the Women's Championship and the Women's World Championship, Like can they turn
those two into like new belts anything to get rid of those fucking ugly helmet
belts. I feel like they're gonna try and change like like all them now,
like with this new era, like at least the ones that haven't been
like like recently. Yes, yeah, I think the tag has to go.
The tag was to me never. I never liked design. I think
they looked terrible with the blue and red, so we need I kind of
like that looking back at just like on two K you can see all the
belts. I kind of like the like the bronze ones. I don't know.
I thought those are like like it's pretty much these same ones but like
all bronze. Yeah, I thought those look like kind of cool. I
just need something. I need something changed up, so anything else in ladder
match, they know snope, next well we're at ours, I'm just gonna
go. Well we had the yeah we're is Santos and Dom. I thought
this was fun. They got their like their Kelsey pop. I thought like
the ending was like a little I wish it was just he was in the
crowd and Santos pushed him and he got in. It was just weird for
them to evade literally yeah with Lujah mass Nobody. He was like, I
wish they did, like it's an easy spot. Half have no have Dom,
have Dom push Jason Kelcey and he's like this he's gonna get in.
They kick his ass. It just felt like a little underwhelming. I thought
the match was fine Andrade so smooth, though there's multiple spots in here.
I thought that Double Cross Boy was really cool. This to this to me
would be like like a two point five five. This was like it was
fine, got a moment. The gear was the coolest part. And I
still think I was trying to figure out what so yeah, I was trying
to figure out what race gear. But I think it was just like it
was like Eagles, Yeah, but I don't know. I thought he was
gonna shoot out of his back, yeah, because because he had like a
like a jet pack slide, and I was trying to think, like is
this like a comic, because he oftentimes says the I like interesting were just
made for me, Like the gear itself was fine, but the entrances were
just I on WrestleMania, I want something to be there. Dom just walked
out. Now again great heat for Dom. The entire rain is just exploding
with booze for Dom, like you can tell as a bad guy. He
is that dude. But the entrances themselves, it was just like, Okay,
we're here, and then yeah, Kelsey coming in doing his thing.
Now. I like Jason Kelsey. I'm a huge fan of American football and
I am from Kansas City, so I'm a huge Chiefs fan. Hence that
uh Ray my stereo mass back there has a Chiefs emblem right in the forehead,
and so I knew Kelsey was a huge wrestling fan as well, and
both the brothers are so I kind of got that, but it just,
yeah, it seemed like an out of nowhere, like I and I get
it during their uh the chief super Bowl celebration, Jason was at their celebration
and he wore a Raymisterio mask. So that's the tie in. But I
think it's too much of a niche tie in and you're pandering to the Philly
audience. Just maybe have a smaller spot with them and with all those great
people in there, though the spot of the match actually belongs to jaking with
the springboard rather than anything that happened in the match. You have such great
competitors, but man, waking got some air on that springboard, and I'm
pretty sure Selena destroyed her forehead on her spot. I was worried with that
moon Salt because she definitely landed face first and then knees and body after.
I was like, oh the Luckily she got up and was all good,
but I was worried. Man, that's a bad spot. The wild swall
was good. I just hate when people are like, I'm gonna make my
wrestlemanimon like just do like this is like they did it like when they did
it on the first time, it was just like like a strategy thing.
Like it was like the the guys were like all far away and then you
just like they're already on the ropes and he just like he gets on there,
and then the other two just like they didn't even say anything, and
then after that, like it was like the next SmackDown. It was like
I'm for sure they were just like you have to do a spot every time.
It's a gimmick. Now, Yeah, that's all they have to and
like, I don't mind doing it. I just hate that's like this era
thing. It's the same thing of like they're better now, but the announcers
always used to be like stone cold enter the arena. They're like a WrestleMania
moment, that's a wrestlemat It's like, I don't don't tell me, like
I'll pick it up. If it's a real WrestleMania moment, it'll happen.
I agree, I love the spot, but just like I hate like this,
let's make a moment. It's just like, no, shouldn't want to
like help your boy win the match, not worry about the moment. But
it's like it's fun. I just like, just like a small critique.
But yeah, yeah, the fact that they hyped it up, like you
could tell they were looking at you like we're going to have a moment that
that kind of takes you out of it. The move itself, it's super
impressive, the high that he got a super impressive screen. They couldn't even
follow with the camera, you know. But yeah, I agree with you
on the fact that everyone's looking for their moment. Let the moment be natural,
like we were saying earlier with Bianca bell Air and walking Sasha Banks up,
like that was a natural moment. That was a moment when you saw
you were like, I am going to remember this, Like let those moments
just be those moments and let us decide who has the WrestleMania moment. What
do you guys think about because I've seen r because I'm looking at the timeline,
I forgot this. We forgot to mention this. What do you guys
think about the new uh, the new intro for WW and the new era
you got, like the one. I like the one they've they've had like
for a while with like uh where it's like the then now forever all together.
Yeah, yeah, I like that one. But this one was cool.
It felt very like MCUs. Absolutely. It gave the whole universe feel,
so that they are really doing the whole We all a universe in and
of ourselves, and I think was cool using the stars to make the wrestlers
and things like that. You will notice some people who have been taken out
of the previous then down Forever we brocks just at home if you have wait
both bullshs forever see him Punk getting added to it. I'm like, oh
man, this is pretty good that press conference. Man, oh yeah,
we're talking to Rumble and ye, he just doing Brock things and like it's
up to the reporters. I get it, because it's this tough thing of
like the reporters, but they also like their fans and stuff. But like
then, like, okay, why was he taking out of the game?
Then like there's there's a hole, there's a why was this stuffing on the
shop? There's like a litany of evidence of them trying to remove Brock and
that's Oh no, he's just chilling. He just don't want to do mania.
It's all right, Like so clearly, clearly they wanted to bring him
back at some point. That's what I read from that last night. They're
just waiting for it to blow over because if he would have, like he
could have killed that right there. But he's like, noh, Brock's doing
his own thing. And they did mention the whole thing. But I guarante,
unfortunately, we'll see what happens with the trial if there's that, are
you know, proven that he wasn't too much involved in sure, but I
think you'll get him back in the next five years, which I'm a guy
where it's like, yeah, I don't think I don't need Brookleszerd anymore.
You have Kuntho to me, who's like, I get bro I get the
box office peel, I get what he brings absolutely, But I'm just like
we have other like bron Breaker. We have other people now that can come
up and be the huge mega heel that can just destroy you, you know,
without bad text history as well. You know, yeah, they're and
easy. If you've got the Rock doing this final Boss gimmick, you don't
need the person who has been the Final Boss for the last ten to fifteen
years coming in at the same time. It just it then stacks it up
too much. But yeah, that I like the new intro. I like
everyone is just giving Tripleh's props and this is his err and things like that,
so I'm cool with it. I don't think his voice need to be
on it. I said that the only last name where she did point out
that maybe this is like a tea kill. They want to like Triple to
be the face, but it feels like when you get the opening of Triple
H's voice and then he's the first in WrestleMania it did feel very like it
really is the But then now for everyone was like seen as voice, I
think, no, it's him, oh right, yeah yeah, And that's
where it's like, you know, I'm not saying to his credit, but
like Vince never had his voice on there, right, So that's where it's
like, it's weird to have triple H like almost feel in the in the
outro too. Yeah, but I would definitely have hired a movie guy or
somebody for that. And for good Taker, I feel like Taker is like
the easy go to after the Breay doc. It's like he's like the legend
legend, Like I feel like Taker, that's the right role. But good
thing wasn't Rock because that would have been even funnier if it would have been.
They should have been a special one. Actually for tonight, they should
have won with the Rock says tend now Together Forever or whatever it is.
But we got the last two matches here. We had the kind of women's
three way showcase, much like the Ladder match. To me, this is
where WrestleMania is like you have your wrestling and your entertainment, but this was
the pure entertainment. We're just gonna give you some moments, and I thought
they delivered. Jade looked like a star, looked very nervous that entrance ramp
man she was seeing that crowd. I was worried for her because like she
was, like, it's just so good, like Bianca and Naomi or popping
off their dancing, and Jade's just like stone face, like fucking But you
know what happened when she got the tag. She delivered and she brought it.
But I was worried. I was like, fuck, she could stumble
and everyone's gonna be like, oh aw, trash, look how they train
their wrestlers and whatnot. But she delivered. They got cool looks, the
entrances, everything, uh you know, damage control looked great. You know,
obviously the internet's blown up the God of Kai. So I'm just happy
they got their most. Their entrance too, was fire with the fans and
then everything. So I thought this was like exactly what it need to be.
Like these are matches for me, it's tough to rate because like this
could never be like a five star match, right, but for me,
it's for sure like a pass because they did their job. They showcased Jade,
the women look good for the for the hot tag whole time and then
you know when it hits, that's gonna be the the Yeah. Yeah,
I gave this a three and a half star. Like I said, it
was a good match. Jaye looked like they from her presentation coming out and
everything else, she looked like a star. Yes, she had that moment
where she was like, Oh, this isn't ten to fifteen thousand people that
I'm used to. This is a big deal. And so she went from
that book and then they left her on the sideline until that hot tag from
Bianca, and they made her come in as a big deal. And the
way that all the women on that team worked together and really like elevated each
other. Plus the give and go from damage control like they really helped.
Yes, they put them with the perfect people to sell or be able to
throw around, especially Da Coda like Dakota is a bumping machine, you know.
So yeah, and then I'm interesting where they go with them after because
I imagine I think Io will lose tonight, So I'm interested to see what
they do with that whole dynamic. You have the draft, but uh,
and then finally we got the main event for reestumes. Like I said,
there's other stuff, of course we're gonna tab of. But for Resuma,
we had the Bloodline Trivel Chief Final Boss versus American Nightmare Seth Freakin Rawins with
an outfit that like kudos to him, but they should. The shoulder piece
was so big it was like you couldn't see him somet theTimes, but entrances
top tier a class. The Rocks entrance was like that was something out of
a marvel, Like that was just fantastic. I love that he's has the
People's Champion title. I love that, like he's like he's not won anything,
but he's like a champion, like the shot like s pubs have the
fact that he's holding up a title that he didn't win from anybody. It
was just like equivalent to Rome and like that's and that fits with the Final
Boss, like that's perfect. I thought this match was great. I thought
it was big Timestlemania feel. I thought it was a great roller coaster.
As I've said in the discord, I think they could have shortened this by
five to tennis match was forty four minutes. A lot of it was like
yeah or a standoffs, But for me, the crowd and like getting like
working over se'sknee for five plus minutes. I didn't need that. Have the
Rock hit Set's knee with a chair. That's it. I think they I
think this was a really good match for fun factor. It's like a ten
out of ten. The last act is fantastic, But I think this could
have been you take up that ten minutes. I think this could have been
like an all time great main event where I think there was some sluggishness and
like I said, the crowd when they went into the crowd because they lost
them. Yeah, they spent the yeah Cody and Roman like all the way
on the stage, and then it was It was weird because it wasn't like,
Okay, the crowd's tired, they're out of this, let's go to
the crowd and like fire them back up. They were still doing like Okay,
you're getting Seth and rolland or you're getting Seth and Rock. You're getting
Seth and Rom and you're getting Cody, like you're getting the pairings and that
was fun. So I feel like they actually did not need to go to
the at all. So for me, it was a really good main event,
but I think shorting in it and changing a few things in the middle,
they could have had an Alzheimer, but like I said, the last
ten minutes that's all five star ten to ten, like just once they hit
the like double pedigree like call that got like everybody up. Yeah yeah,
that was such a great sequence, the double count like yeah, the ending,
like I said, the third actis match they they brought home big time.
So oh yeah, definitely, I mean that match to me, I
have it at four and a quarter stars. It was good to see them
starting out with Seth and Roman and just getting that that little history out the
way. They started off with some full chain wrestling. I was surprised that
The Rock did some full chain wrestling to start off the match, even like
doing some good selling for Seth and then everything it spilled to the outside pretty
quickly. I mean the whole if you count, you're fucking fired. Oh
so goodund just so that oh yeah, Seth's leg work, oh man,
he was really selling that. I saw someone saying that at one point he
like sole the wrong leg or something. I didn't know. You're both you
know, the sloppy Cody cutters. All match kind of got to me with
The Rock being the person who sold it the best. But like it looked
so damn. I mean, just on Monday, Cody jumped for like the
spear and people are like, that's Roman's greatest spear ever. Yeah, the
Rock and Mama Roads getting into it leading into the Dusty tribute. I think
it was smarter than him to go right from the Mama Roads thing to him
doing the bionic elbow right there was whipping himself too with the belt again we
got mam was there too in the Yeah yeah versus go get that in the
Mill Roman spearing the Rock. That was the Rock's best acting I've seen in
any of his past five movies. Like him selling that spear. It took
me back to him versus Stone Cold in the way that he would sell some
of those moves like he was going through it. The Rock bottom through the
table. I was surprised that the Rock took that, but I was like,
that was an amazing thing. The spear through the barricade was oh gee,
the sound of that breaking and just taking seth Rawlins out of the match.
The one thing that was kind of disappointing was we only got one whip
of the belt. Not advocated whipping people with belts here, But it was
a selling point and you got one kind of whip from the belt and then
Rock getting the pin on Cody after demanding the tag in from reins, Like
oh yeah, that that's feature sat up right there, Cody getting pinned clean
having the disheveled look at the end. Again, Yeah it's tonight too.
Also like that I didn't even notice until commentary said, like when the when
the Rock low bload seth like the referee went over to Cody to to say,
sorry that there's nothing you can do. What were you, asked,
Bobs. Uh No, Yeah, I really loved it. Like I thought
it was at first, it was like kind of going slow, but it
definitely it definitely got there in the in the end and like, yeah,
Rock just he went the whole time, like like it worked out well for
for people who are liking at the start that everyone is saying like oh he's
gassed after one's fine, Buster and like he won't be able to do anything.
Yeah, take train a lot from from that, like gender, yeah,
moment and if they picked the right spots and everything. Yeah, he
was looking good. They're all looking broken putting a lot of work. He
was looking really good, and uh yeah, I think he and again too
a good thing with the tag matches like he can, he gets his moments,
like to sit on the apron for a bit, right like the test
will be whenever he does the singles. And I'm very curious. Again,
I was somebody that was in the Rock Double Agent camp, but I feel
like you go the other route and you have Monday Night Raw. To me,
I love the end of Rock and the Bloodline just being the share Roman
reins and just like like you failed or they might stretch it, and like
Roman has to win the belt and if he doesn't, then the Rock will
come back because the Rock is going away to go film that eight twenty four
movies, so maybe something they pick up on they don't want to do right
away. But I just think the Rock is so good. And as I
said, I think he has unfortunately kind of eclipsed Roman with the heel Miss.
I think you lean into that because I think now if you do all
the Rock on Monday of the Bloodline beating up Roman and then Cody runs in
the for the same ultimate good guy Cody, Oh my god, yeah,
I think you. I think you will get that one day. I think
after all though they let him like ah, we're gonna let him get beat
him once. He deserves this, you know, and then after maybe he'll
you know, say sorry did Jay and stuff. But no, I'm very
curious. But yeah, I think Rack again, that's the best thing too,
with him doing this heel character is some of the best stuff is just
his emotions or what he's saying, right, it don't have to be what
he does in the rings. That's good. Yeah, I'm I can't wait
for a night. Yeah, it's Bloodline rules. They won. Like we
said, Cody took the pin. I just don't understand for weeks still even
last night. So Seth Gar It's like, I don't know why anyone thought
Seth was taking the pin here, Like this makes so much sense with the
story for Cody. It's like we said, it's fucking Brett Hart one one.
This thing happened thirty years ago the playbook of Brett loses the first match,
he wins the second, like that happens. The money to the bank
people all the time. Like I was so surprised. Maybe half it is
probably just be all meming on Sep. Two because it's just like that's the
easy joke to do. But I thought this was the right move it like
I actually I was fifty to fifty on the Cody dejected look. I felt
it just was so unnatural for me of like this setup this one last year
felt like a camera guy got a good shot, where this felt like Cody
moved into place to get they wanted. Yeah, and like for me,
it's just like it lost some of the like specialists like okay, I get.
And again you can see the difference of Cody annoying, Oh, I'm
gonna win tomorrow versus fuck, should I have left any like, like the
clear thoughts that are going through his mind. So again I think he's winning.
I think this match is gonna be It's gonna be tons of fun.
You know, yeah, I saw. I saw it was a beach fall.
So people are hoping, uh the rubber chickens raining down after Cody wins
the title. Oh should they should have a plant and someone should throw the
rubber chicken and Cody should beat the ship a Roman with the chicken, like
he should handle a couple of times with a chicken, you know, just
to go full circle. But no, I think tonight it's goning be lots
of fun. I can't wait. To see that main event, and that's
gonna be chaos. It's gonna be like like like Cody would do like an
hour main event back to back, Like oh absolutely. I think even Meltzer
said it's listed with forty minutes, so I think it's gonna be another hour
with entrances if Cody wins. You know, the tire was gonna be five
minutes alone because I felt like last night his pyro was like small, So
I feel like they're like they're saving it forward that moment because they came all
that money on the rock. That's true. Yeah, that's true. Good
thing they didn't kill him too. The fucking fire Brahma bowl. I was
waiting, but that was that was in the stage we didn't tell about.
That stage looked excellent with the I love how big the X and the l
are and they did have the custom stuff. Yeah, so kudos to those
poor people that for the past two weeks have just been working their ass off,
being like, we got to make a custom tron for the X in
the l Okay here we go. Still know what that m y supposedly thing
is from from the sound check there at the the WrestleMania sound check and like
on the on the banners there was like an why like Titan Tron video,
but it was like it was like the logos like an M with like the
Y in the middle. And people said it could just be like a generic
sound check thing that just people. I don't know, it was just like
a weird thing. It could be. Maybe it's gonna be Jack Perry's new
name. You know, we'll get there and so anything on rest may night
one specifically before we move on. Uh, I think that's it. That
was a good night. Like I said, I think I too has potential
to be better. So we'll see. There's lots of fun stuff. So
yeah, we''ll be back later time I talk about that. But there's the
Bobby Lashley carrying across the street fight. I don't think we mentioned that.
I can't wait, remember, I can't wait. It's gonna be I feel
like if they're just if it's just like all weapons, I mean, it
could be like fun. They actually think it will be fun. I think
Montest four will do crazy if it's like no, like it's it's supposedly three
them, but it's it's like street fights. You'll have like theF and scarlet
fighting, right, Yeah, No, I actually think it will be fun.
I think that is a match that if I have to go somewhere,
I will. That was like the Ray and Dawn match. That was my
Okay, I'm gonna grab some food and come back down for the first five
minutes after the entrances. But yeah, I think it will still be fun.
So what else is gonna be fun? Is man? You know,
see him punk? Just the gift that capes on giving because we thought just
heated an interview on Monday. I thought, well, we gotta at least
talk about this on the episode alone for WrestleMania. And after this, yeah,
we're gonna tablet NXC And then that happens, and then you also get
Edge cutting of promo on Wednesday. As I've said before, and Tress told
you, I don't care, I'm always gonna call him Edge. I'm sorry,
that's just that's just his name to me. And we think, oh,
this must be it, right, this must be all of it,
and everyone, this is what happens, you know, this is the world
We go and everyone kept fun and I agree to extent, but everyone kept
meming on aw like, oh man, you got a collision on Saturday,
worst thing, Da da da da, and I agreed that you should just
done the best of But all those memes brought us here because I go,
you know what, We're gonna have this fucking It's gonna pop up and apparently
on Wednesday, the bucks Akaw are going to be showing footage of all in
of the fight with Jack Perry and Sam Punk. Now I know lots of
people already have been like, oh, it's a troll. I don't think
so, because all the top tier scoopers have said, like, this is
legit, it's happening. I think some of them have already seen a screenshot
or some images because I was watching Fight for last night, just the way
Sean pause, I was like, yeah, they've seen enough, and everyone's
saying that looks like it's not a bluff. I really what a crazy and
it's not over because we got till Wednesday, and if it's big enough,
there might have to be an emergency gimmick episode. We said we would do
one a month. It might have to be a bonus one again, a
third bonus, because this is I thought we would see this footage, but
I thought it would be a Deadpool teaser trailer, it would leak and some
of me on the interwebs, and that's what happened. I always thought we
would see this after this interview, because here's the two differences. I'm gonna
throw to David for aw and s Fob's thought on a new do you feel
like you're just like someone that's a kid that you know, like you're coming
into a marriage and now like the X is back and all this draw was
happening. But I thought that you look at the differences where on Monday seem
punk is the interview Tony Khn's a clown, not a good boss. At
DA Wednesday, Cody's the exact opposite. No, that's not my experience.
You know. I like Tony, and that's where there is a universe,
whether people like it or not. If seampunk just says oh, I don't
want to talk about it, or like, yeah, I like Tony Conn,
that's it. This probably doesn't happen. But good old seampunk. And
I'm not saying it's a bad thing because I'm in the camp. This is
my little mini rant. Either you're for the trash talk both ways, or
you're not for it at all. I hate the shit where it's like w
can do it, but AW can't, and AW can do it, and
do you can't? Like this thing right here? Right? Where was it?
Earlier? Hunter brought up the whole triple he's taking a shot ousprey.
I'm fine at that, you know why, because I'm fine on Wednesday if
Oustbury takes a shot back. Do I agree with triple h? No?
I don't agree with like, oh, you want to live at home with
your family, make millions with a terrible person. You're a lazy worker.
I don't think that at all. You have Roman who fucking works like five
days a year and he's getting the same like where's his grind? Right?
But I don't care because it's fun and pro wrestling, like let they see
them funk like ESPN thing. No, it was like the WrestleMania post show
and they were like he was there at the miss and he told them like,
are you gonna get the tennis tattooed on you? I did, right?
And that's the thing where it's like, this is what bugs the shit
out of me? Where the bus for that one? Though? I feel
like we'll os for like he even laughed off the thing of it he did,
Oh my god, bro, you're kidding me. But like, here's
the thing, like Bucks on Wednesday can be like, oh scapegald love your
working. I was like, oh, they're obsessed. They can't get se
hm Punk out of mind. And then see him Punk will make a fun
shot and one's like, oh he's the best man. Seem punks you from
the hip, Like that's where just get in the camp of just be funed.
Let them both do it like this has not been a thing in so
long. Who cares? Like people like, oh my god, they're ruining
the magties. No, there won't and two weeks people aren't gonna talk about
like this is fun. I guess I saw sweet those saying like like I
feel I feel good for the people who just started watching wrestling now because it's
been so boring for the last five years. Oh that was when I try
to explain to you why I stop watching ww like it was so fucking bad
man, like it was though that twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen or twenty twenty
air like it was, there's so much bad stuff, That's what I mean.
Like, I guess because I grew up in the attitude era where both
of them and saying there They're like both shows were always taking shots at each
other all the time. There was always little digs and it's not just like,
oh man, they can't stop, like that's what you do. And
I do think it was designed for Seeing Punk to be there on Monday because
he's shit on AW and then W's about to have their biggest week of all
time. This felt like a one two punch of like, we're just gonna
fucking hit Tony Kahn and guess what. And this is where like did the
Edge promo need to happen? Maybe not like I think there's some good stuff.
I think there's some bad stuff. I think him cutting the promo in
the week of the releases not the greatest I agree with people. But at
the same time, when people are like, oh, why are they doing
this? Because aw's main fanboy base and how they grew up was on the
Internet. That's how they became a thing, the elite Cody Bucks Kenny,
they use that show to become a thing. So the past two day,
since the Seampunk interview, they've been the fucking whipping boy the interview, Internet
memes all around being made fun of. So it's just like, why wouldn't
they come out and try and do something And now they're now they're doing like
the ultimate. And I agree with somebody where it said either this is gonna
prove this is gonna make seam Punk look a little bad because it's gonna show
he's lying about a few things, or AW is the dumbest company of all
time. And I agree with that sentiment because there's no reason to release.
I'm all for releasing this. Fuck yeah, they're making a segment of it.
This is great. This is even better than the Lee because this is
gonna make like this makes aw. Oh, they're just trying to poperating.
Yeah, it's a fucking business like. Of course they're trying to poperating,
Like what do you think? Like, but that's where it's like, whatever
happens. I do agree that they have to show something, even if it's
Jack Perry winning the fight and it's just like man Seampunk looks like a bitch,
that's that they like. If the reveal is that CM punk is not
good at real flights, then I don't think that's that's a shock. It's
not. It's not a shot, right, we know that seem funk get
bit, but at least even then it'ld be like that can feed in the
heel Jack Perry right of like Jack Perry got ready to se him Punk,
he kicked his ass Sea and Punk scared of him. That can be a
great heel thing. But if it is literally just footage and then having a
scuffle, it's like and nothing happens, like Okay, well what did you
do? But I'm all for it because like why not, Like they've been
the whipping Boy and Triple H see him Punk Pat McAfee. They're taking their
shots at AW this and Tony callin. I agree people at the interview,
he was probably pissed. This is their time to like, you know what,
fuck you, We're gonna do something. And to me, it's fine
because like I don't think that he's gonna fire CM Punk, like unless he's
in this tape dropping a bunch of like sexist racist things, I think he's
fine. And AW gets a little buzz and that's why he's like, just
have fun with it, and if you feel like you're so much on the
W side or AW side, just focus on their wrestling company then, because
just like both of them can do it. Both of them have shots and
then let's see what happens after. So David, you're like me, you've
been here the whole time. Aw, what do you think? What do
you think about the interview with Sampunk? Obviously at the Edge promo and now
Wednesday we're going to be seeing some some brawl in footage as a full segment
from the EVPs. I was not surprised at all with Sampunk going full Seampunk
in that interview. I knew and I think wwe had to know that putting
him out there, there was that strong chance that, hey, this is
where it's gonna go. They wanted that too, I like they really wanted
it. With most interviews, I bet you there was a hey, what's
off limits? What's not what can we talk about? What do you absolutely
do not want to talk about? Type of deal, And you know,
CM punk was probably just like, hey, everything's on the table. So
I'm not said for except for brawl out. That was the one that he
didn't talk about, Right, That's the one thing He's like, I'm still
not sure the legality, what all I can say? He goes For the
most part, I think I can say whatever, but I just don't want
to anymore. And I'm like, okay, cool, So like I'm not
surprised with any of it. When it comes to Edges come back raw raw
promo, I'm like, all right, I see what you guys are doing.
You kind of have to do that. I may have chosen someone other
than Edge to do it, maybe someone closer who was an original to come
in and do it. I get the thought process of having a WW Hall
of Famer come out and do it, and yes, you know, but
other than that, it is what it is. I don't take too much
stock into and I think a resident Justice just put in the chat about Dax,
I don't put too much stock into Dax's promo because he even said,
Hey, my promo is the same promo I do on the go home of
every show, which is I'm happy to be here, I'm happy to feed
my family and things like that. And he's like, so he straight up
said, yet, no, mine is not a raw ra shot at anyone.
This is the same promo I've been doing that I in the show,
and I'm gonna butt into RJ. I love you, I follow you on
Twitter, but at the same time, you are definitely one of those people
that I you. I'm not lying. I had to mute you for a
day because it was there was six tweets in a roll of my timeline that
was just all aw like just purely sided. And it wasn't just the fact
of like, man, this is clocking up my timeline, Like there's a
point where it's like if you take the high road, that's true, but
like so what so what is your point then RJ and you can answer the
chat for punk taking shots this weekend, Triple A's taking shots this weekend,
McAfee and others Like that's why it's like if ww was not saying anything,
then it's like, yeah, aw is just like they're the little kid in
the room like that let's fight, let's fight. But that's they're both doing
it. So that's where it's just like McAfee took a lot of replaced fiance
run in front of her like pretty much like saying like all wrestle in front
of six hundred people, like just saying like Buddy Murphy is or whatever is
is, I don't remember it's Murphy or Matthews. Now like he's wrestling in
this like rinky dinky little place where like in August he's gonna wrestle in front
of fifty thousand. They are clearly clearly the number two promotion. They are
nowhere in arms reach of WW. But it's at the same point. It's
like if they're gonna, like on Monday, if they're gonna shoot, they're
gonna shoot, right, And that's the thing where it's just like same thing,
RJ, Like, why you've been so negative on AW this past weekend.
I think for you, you just gotta start watching a product and like
I did WD and just move past it because it's just like, if they're
gonna they're gonna keep doing it. That's what they're gonna do. And I
don't know, it could work out if it's embarrassing, we'll talk about that
on Wednesday. If like after we see it, I don't know, it's
because it could just be a fun It could just be the Bucks like using
this to prop up Jack Perry, right, So yeah, I I this
footage better be some damning footage because if not, like I said on Twitter
that I would not be surprised if TK fearing for his life is just punk
turns around and points out him and goes you stay out of this, and
him like, oh, like I would not be surprised if that's a thing,
right Melcho. He says that footage is not going to be in there.
He says that there's nothing with Tony Kahn in there, which that to
me is not good because that's where I will go to the aw's like you
show it all. You don't show any of it to me. Yeah,
it looks to big up Jack Perry. Then just bring Jack Perry back and
let him say talk trash. Just let him talk trash, let him say
he was continue his whole scapegoat thing. He was a scapegoat, you know.
But people don't want to talk about him and things like that because they
know there's nothing to talk about because he would kick seeing Punk's ass any day
of the week and all this other stuff. Just do that. If you're
going to do it, go balls out or don't go at all, because
you're going to end up looking like some old nineteen nineties early two thousands.
And I don't know if you remember this, the GTV skits that WWF at
the time used to have that were supposed to be gold dust, their little
found footage type deal. You're going to end up like that or the QT
Marshall TV crep that he had where they were ripping off TMZ, like it's
going to end up cheesy like that. So either do it all go balls
out or don't do it at all. I get the shooting for the ratings.
You're coming off of WrestleMania. This is the perfect time to bring in
the wrestling audience, especially with all this stuff that seem Punk and other people
have been saying. Those who don't know about aw your name has been in
people's mouth, So this is a perfect time to get somebody in. But
I think this is kind of not the way to do it unless you are
going to just go all out and be like, hey, this is why
this guy got fired. This is why Seth used to call him a cancer,
this is why this is happening, Like really lean into it. And
that's why to the point too, where like seeing Punk, I thought the
interview was great and everything, but there's multiple things I disagree in that interview
because I will still always go and he goes, oh, like I didn't
punch him, I just choked him a little. That's still not good.
That's not We're like he like it's supposed to be. If you all see
a punk changes in that like he's a forty year old man near on fifty.
Like the fact that his reaction as well, if I don't punch him
choking was better. It's like, no, man like, we're in a
it's not the fucking like sixties seventies where it's like yeah, go handled.
Outside's like no, man Like, that's not the way and that stuff is,
and that's fine if he feels that way. And I will read Arjie's
comment to defend himself here he says, I think there's levels to it.
I don't think some things that we have said shouldn't have been said. For
sure. I don't disagree with that. I think the shots that aspar are
overblown, and I agree with you. I think there's stuff that has been
overblown. To me that's fun and it's stuff that I go, like I
said, I disagree, that's just triple ah. Like there's so many things
you can pick apart that cone that it's wrong. But like Triph does that
all the time. But I guarantee you next go around, he'll probably sign
that same thing with MGF. The crowd starts a chant m Jeff and he's
like, well, people that are together places and I'll be big here.
That doesn't that to me is just triple h Like I don't take that at
him taking shots. I take this almost like reverse psycholog you where he's like
poking the bear of like like, yeah, come prove you could do it
here, like you don't think And I've said this before, Come twenty twenty
seven, m Jeff's gone. If it's even sooner, he will be a
WWE guy, especially with Cody. I think it's gonna happen, but I'm
kind of for them all and like the footage, it's like I agree that
this is like the biggest step of this could get embarrassing, right, But
at the end of the day, I don't know. I guess it's pro
wrestling, and it's like it I guess again, we'll have to see what
happening, because it could just be a major egg on his face. But
at the same time, this is a guy where you know, he just
got shit on for like forty five minutes and stuff, so I caun see.
And here's the thing too, like I'm not trying to do what about
isms, but WW did the same thing. They fired Punk on his fucking
wedding day. They sued him it wasn't in public. So this is a
little bit different, sure, but all the stuff that Tony Kahn's doing right
now is the same thing Instant Triple Ah did ten years ago. Fucking Triple
Ah fed ex him filing for his firing on his wedding day. They made
sure Punk honked in the night before and then he got express fed X like
you were no longer for Like, they have all done this. It's par
wrestling, it's petty. It's just that they're all in the public. And
my last point before s bub is this is like what the elite was known
for is like being the elite was known as. Oh, they're pushing the
boundary. They're saying stuff they shouldn't did always work, no, but like
this is their fucking dam this thing Wait a lot of buttons with WW and
TRIPLEH and they knew it the cease and desist and then making shirts about the
season distance. They made a shirt that had the entire season desist on it,
and that created Dude. That's so that's why when people all they said
Scape going there doing crime a River on TV, it's like they've done this
with everybody. It's not just Punk and it's because I think because W's really
hot right now, people are really like, fucking I'm the fed guy,
Like I love W. But it's like, you gotta don't do revision history.
Bucks and everybody have done this for years and two years ago when AW
was hot everything, Oh this is the best. They're so cool they but
now it's like because it's a guy they like or a company that's really hot
right now, it's like, oh, they can't do this now. It's
like they've always done this. People use clips of Shawn Michaels and Kevin ash
doing the same thing back in the day, Like it's like it's it's pro
wrestling, So s bubs Now, like I said, you're the kid,
You're you're you're in this marriage, but the ex is back. They're causing
a stir. You're a year under in your wrestling fandom. What do you
take from all this? And to your point, I was supposed to pretty
go. I also laughed that imagine the person I watch AW that's not online
that has no idea about like what do you mean for that edge segment?
Like the crowd was like like silent, They're like yeah, it was like
right, and it was like like like and that that's why for me,
I didn't know, because I did think it was really bad for AW.
I thought that was like it hurt them a lot. But again that's where
it's like perceptuality, where when he did mention it, there was a big
pop, so like maybe it's not a big deal. I don't know,
but Aw's fan base is very online based, right, so I don't know.
And today point too, I still think there's a chance that that wasn't
a them move. I think there's a chance that Edge went there and said,
hey, everyone feeling really down, let me get out there and try
and fire everyone up. Because there's even clips this week before where he's already
taken shots at Punk and WD. I also think he just doesn't like seeing
Punk. I think he like I think he genuinely does not get along with
the guys, So like any chance, but if Edge wanted to do a
raw raw, sure, the timing maybe not the best, But by ass
bobs, how do you feel about all this? Yeah? I mean I
don't really know, like there's so much to say about it, but I'm
just interested to see, like, like what the what the footage is because
I feel like people were saying, like even if the footage is like like
Punk being like a lunatic just attacking people like backstage, like to to like
the people who like Punk, that's gonna be like, this is awesome what
he did to the elite, like we love to seeing Punk. And that's
where Yeah, that's where I was surprised. And that doesn't help them with
the Tony con things. Okay, what does it show that he's lying?
I guess if he like, I don't know, And that's where for me,
Yeah, it's like there's not what like, there's not much like what
could he lie because he already said like he went up to Jack Perry first
and he's the one who started and choked though, so it's like what could
be the thing he's lying about that like Jack Ferry like attacked him first or
that like him right, that's the only thing he could be lying about if
there's something where because his pretelling the story is Jack Perry's like said, do
something about it. So if it was something like Punk just came up to
him started fucking swinging, like it shows because that's the one thing that I
will give them credit if they show one thing that Punk is lying then everyone
will look at that interview and be like, oh, he could be lying
about this. He could be lying about this. If there's one thing where
that could be the thing. If Punk started the fight, people say,
oh, well, how can you trust Punk? He lied about the fight.
He said that Jack Perry started and he just came up like he said,
God, damn and everybody. He just started to go to fists.
And that's where like RJ points up, and I think that's the only thing
that could be used for is next. I think in two weeks from now,
Jack Perry with New Japan is in Chicago. They could, if they're
smart, uses to make them uber heel. Like I said to me,
if the footage just Jack Perry actually beating se Him Punk and they just say
he beat him and he got him out of here, and they use as
heel thing, that to me actually works. If it's not even to expose
seam Punk, it's just to like help Jack Perry. You could do that
because let's call it is the Devil thing, fucking flopped the Devil thing.
They like they just got the Adam Cole versus MJF and then move on.
So this could be their next like they knew needed they need to get Jack
Perry back, and instead of Tony Colm being mad at him, like use
the kid, like he's not going to he's in New Japan like this they
I think it's like a hell Mary pass. They could score a touchdown and
be really cool, or they could just be yeah, this was silly.
They're gonna shoot Jack Perry up to the top of the card by using everything
that's going on with him being in Sea Punk's mouth and people wondering about JACKO
split up theah have. Yeah. I will say one point before we move
on about the will Osprey shot. I agree with Triple H to an extent.
Wow Osprey guy, your billy to go, what's going on? I
know I don't agree with it with will Osprey, but I agree with it
with others. So will Osprey is long traveled. Will Osprey has turned the
right to pull a brock Lessener, to pull a John Cena, to choose
the fact that he wants to spend more time with his family. When I
was hearing that interview, like my first thought wasn't like always talking about Oscar,
I was like, this feels like this like a w and and everybody
some of the or Sasha was all he's managing Osprey, he's but some of
the newer people who have said, you know who have are coming in off
of the Indies or coming in off a bus from somewhere else, and they're
like, yeah, no, I just I don't want to travel the road
that much. I do get Hey, you're not built for the grind.
That's not you. It's probably a good thing that we didn't sign this young
up and comer because you're not built for the grind. Yet I think that
Osprey has shown that he is built for the grind. So I think in
my mind, Ospray is the past, and yes, Ospray is right now
my current favorite rest in the world, and it has been for a while.
I go back and forth between him and Omega, but both of them
are just great. His I loved him when he was a junior heavyweight and
then his jump up just like Omega, I mean, very similar story,
very similarly, like almost the exact story. Yeah, they're just amazing.
So I think that Osprey has earned the right to say, you know what,
I've got a wife, I've got a step kid. Now, I've
got responsibilities. I don't want to be on the road in America for three
hundred days out of the year, and I want to take him more money.
And I'm not saying that's bad on w W. They have a system
that works. If they say, hey, we won't pay it this rate,
like that's that's for me. Why I hope the footage is good on
Wednesday and AW can not like a comeback, They're fine, But that's why
to me, I want AWW Brown just because the rest of us have choices.
Then you know, it's not just you're stuck with the FED and you
get paid with the FED and you travel the FED. I don't give a
shit. If Okana wants to live in Japan and be there once a week,
good for him, Like I'm happy for him. And then there's another
company, you know, same thing with WW. It's like when people leave
or vice versa. Because now WW benefits off it too. Because if WW,
let's say, five years ago, where to sign MGF, he's just
another guy at the PC. Now in three years when they get MGF,
it's a fucking or look at Cody. Look at Cody if he was not
if AW was not around, this whole big comeback, the story that we're
having right now might not be there now MGF, you could make him number
thirty in the rumble and you get a massive pop and it's like, oh,
look they stole a guy. They got a built in superstar, right.
So WW benefits off another company too, because they don't have room for
everybody, and while they make people like now you know, Mercedes can go
get paid and she she'll be back. She's even said yeah, right,
So it's like that works too because now it's like the absent girls faun or
Wa has no lack of female stars. They're fucking set. So now in
a couple of years when Sasha comes back, I'll look of that. We're
fired up now. Sometimes it's like Sean Spears comes back and he's just he's
just Sewn Spears working pre show. But like I think it it to me,
it still benefits both because like a W being around just like that like
Trainer at the absolutely yeah for sure. Yeah, But like AWB around did
not hurt WrestleMania Weekend here, And I think majority of a of these pro
problems don't have to do a WD doing great. I do think there is
a section of people that watched AW because w W shit and now W is
hot, they for sure have left again, right, But that also means
that AW was not being good enough for people to stick around because I'm somebody
I watch both. If Cody wins tomorrow, I'm back to being a full
time w fan. If Cody loses, you can never see him again.
I'll retire. I think it's or tonight. But that's where it's like Easter
a million viewers on Dynamite, Yeah, yeah, everything everyone's like, oh,
but that's where it is. It's good just to have a choice,
right because I even see people that are all my timeline big AW fans,
they watch WrestleMania and the like, oh watch this, but this product is
still just not for me because like it's too glamory, it's too whatever.
Same thing with AW Watch. Uh you know, maybe the stories aren't good
enough. There's too much, you know, the blood they use too much.
Like that's where the options are great. So I hope this footage and
everything goes well. I either way is good. It's you can't say it's
boring. That's one thing. Like it's given us something to talk about and
yeah, well we'll see what happens. Anything else on Punk or Edge or
whatever, and we'll see what happens then. So let's say, finally we'll
end off with XT SPOS with you because you were you, I consider you
missed your NXC. You're like, I missed one of the matches sadly because
I had to do something. But that's the rest I did. Wat which
one did you miss? I missed the Iliad dragon Off one, which I
hear is really good and I was like it was like thirty minutes long or
something, but yeah, that was definitely when I need to check out.
Yeah, but I wasn't really fully on like the whole like family thing me,
Like I don't know, like like I liked what they were doing,
like on the on the Weekly Show because they had a lot of like pre
recorded they they had. They just played like movies during during NXT felt like
there'd be like a tense ten minute segment of like the family kidnapping ilia dragon
Off and like taking him to a bridge and he's like very hokey time.
Yeah, yeah, but I did watch I think the rest of it.
I'll bet you we'll talk about that match first, just because I was gonna
say, because yeah, I saw I'm the same thing of like this felt
like they knew Trick and Mellow were main eventing, so draggon off and go
against anybody. From what I've seen NXT, I'm just like I've watched sporadically,
but I'm starting to get my toes back in it now that they're like
taking more seriously. I'm saying that I'm not a big fan of like the
Family is like a main thing. I don't know what Tony did you,
but I think they worked hard and the match was good. But yeah,
any thoughts David on that one before we go to the whole show back there?
It it was serviceable, Yeah, I mean it was. They definitely
mega pushed the Family just because like they needed to get them like close to
the level of Dragon off. Before they like they'd have their segments like they're
eating pasta at a restaurant or whatever, or like they'd have one match,
but then it was like like every week you're getting the Family now because because
they're gonna have to go against Ilia. It's like watched like he just said,
oh anybody, and then Dragon he came out, but they had to
build it up, you know. Yeah, I watched sporadically and I mostly
like just catch recaps and things like that. So like when I was watching
an XT full time full time, the family was not where they are now.
So just to see them on this level, it was a bit like,
Okay, I think they've done they've done good recently. It's like there's
like Luca Crucifino who's like his gigs like he's a lawyer. So now they've
put him in the fan like they have like this, like like corrupt lawyer
in the in the family now like any like hide stuff in the ring and
stuff. I think another reason I just can't get invested. I could be
wrong. I just think this is a gimmick that just they get to the
main roster and they're around for a bit and they all get repacked retooled,
and they're it's like gone, I just don't see this. This is two
thousand smack down all over again. Next gimmicks are very like they're just like
so like to the extreme, I like any phenomino where we're bringing this back.
Yeah, oh my god, I forgot about them. Yeah. But
other than that match, I suppose what do you think of the Old Wall
Show? I liked it. I thought it was those fun like good matches
of each type pretty much. I thought they were all a lot of fun.
The North American Triple Threat was awesome, just like hitting stuff all the
time, meat planing, good good. One to be sponsored my my Knuckles
on was like a coat sponsor show. That's true, that's actually yeah,
that's pretty fitting. I feel like knuckles would fit. It was better than
the Fallout one though. I did like the clip was some for like a
tornado DDT right onto the to the vault boy on the floor, but uh
what other one? The the tag match was really great. Lebron and Barry
Corbyn Nathan Nathan Frazer Axiom. I thought they're really cool, uh really fast
like everyone. And then Corbn's just like the huge guy who can just like
he just hits it, hits two unend of days and then it's over.
Yeah he did a splash. He did one splash too, So he busts
out some new moves for wrestling the weekend. You know, uh what else?
Yeah, trick and mellow, Like I definitely thought it was gonna go
longer, so that came out of here nowhere. Just I was like,
oh, someone told them, hey, we got some other things we have
to do. I did see on Twitter about thirty minutes later they were having
rehearsals for WrestleMania, So I'm like, did they have to wrap it up
because the triplach hat to get down to rehearsals or something. I still think
for I said the discord, I think that ending means to me that Mellow
is not going to the main roster yet, and they're gonna have a few
more matches and they're gonna pull a Gargano Champa where they just spread this out
for a long time. Like That's just what it felt to me, because
it did feel abrupt and it was weird though, like I thought the match
was really good. Both of them are just megastars like it is, like
I know it's a meme, but legitimately it could be like yes, they
could hopefully in five years from now, they could be a main event of
WrestleMania. Right, they can be like the new Seth and Roman where they're
bonded for life. Trick is just a star like same thing as jay Usso
you got that entrance of thirteen thousand, say whoop that Trick and it's just
like, fuck, man, I can't wait till we get that like at
a fifty thousand plus eighty, Like, I like, both of them are
just their money, right, It's just like they're looking so good. Trick
I think, did look like a top guy. I think the match was
good, but it just I think there's just a lot of unnecessary stuff.
I wish this was just the straight wrestling match this go around and then you
do the no DQ or you do like the ref bumps. Like I thought
they had a good stuff and kind of like the other Like, actually,
I guess i'd disagree because the crowd was into every ref bump. They were
into it all, so it wasn't like the rock you know, tag match,
where I felt like the crowd kind of simmered on it, probably because
this one was shorter. So I thought it was good. I just didn't
think it was that stuff was needed for this go around because even then,
it's like all the would make this big deal about Trick beating him, but
like Carmel was kind of distracted talking to the ref, so it made Trix
win, Like, oh he kind of still eaked it out a little.
So that's why they're gonna do a bunch more matches, which is especially after
like the vengeance. They like Iliad Dragonoff Trick, which is like a really
great match, and that was just like a like wrestling banger, Like I
don't know how long that one is, but like tons of near falls and
like you think he's gonna win, and that one I think, and like
Trick lost because of Mellow or like or they kind of him something, right,
didn't he like yeah, No, it's like, uh, he like
pushed him or something like onto the leg and then he hit someone with the
steel chair. Later he like bumped into him. But it was like a,
yeah, that one's like a great match. I was expecting something like
more like that where it's just like I don't remember how long that one went,
and felt like maybe it was a quick match that was just like with
great spots and stuff. But yeah, definitely ended in like a weird way
and people are saying like, yeah, like a Mellow kicked out of like
three h bombs from the top Road from Alia dragon Off and they takes one
one knee and he's done kind of sloppy knee at that. I mean,
it was Yeah, it was my dad. We used to watch wrestling.
He'd hate that Ship of the Distraction finish. And I was always reversed where
like I can like head cannon like the H bomb, he was somewhat prepared.
Because you're distracted, you're not prepared, and if you get hit while
you're not prepared, it's over you. That's the only way I can head
cannon like. Okay, this is why I didn't kick out that he wasn't
prepared, I guess, but yeah, it was, and this didn't.
That's the strange way too. This match felt more like a mid card,
like in the middle of the match sort of flow. But this was supposed
to be the main event, so that's why I thought it would be a
bit more bigger and epic. But that's again I think they were like saving
stuff too. I think you're gonna get some match in the future that's like
their thirty minute clinic or whatever it is, which is odd because I thought
they still could have done it here. But I don't know. I guess,
like you said, could have been time and everything like that. It's
only one title change on the whole show. Yeap, I was surprised you
like I supposed to mention war dogs. I was surprised, like, I
don't know why Bronze hold not title. I don't know what they're waiting for.
Like, I like, maybe he's gonna do both so that I'll think
that's just Seawn Michaels says, I want to let him go and he just
wants to keep on us. That's a show again, you can't take my
champions. Yeah, like this would be the same thing that happened with Vincent
Treble Ah. But sometimes since it's like I'm taking them, you know,
like that's it, Like it's different because like they're friends, but like Broun
to me is like a I'm taking them. Like it's like he just feels
like and I'm somebody that's just like a casual watcher next to you. I
think I'll get more into in the future here, but it just feels like
he's just like uber flounder now, like he's still putting in good work of
course, but just like if he does both, then I'll take back the
criticism. But if it's gonna be more NXT centric, it's like he's gotta
get on the main roster. He's got to start doing some stuff. Maybe
they're gonna wait for the draft and maybe he'll lose it right before the draft
and someone will like I'm drafting bro Wait did and did he gets he got
signed a SmackDown though, right, didn't he? Yeah, he's already so
it's not one of those things where like oh, I'm drafting or NXT rookie.
He's already a contract SmackDown Superstars. So I don't know. It felt
it felt odd to me. It felt very strange. I also know if
it's just like what do we do with Baron Corbyn once he's gone? And
I don't know, I like you have to put the like because I do
get the idea of like obviously you want Braun as like a single star,
but like the wolf Dogs is like working really well, Like I want to
see that on the the main roster because I feel like people like Corbyn now
like you're getting let's go Corbyn chits in the in the match and stuff.
Yeah, and I'd be find that even if it's the main roster, like
he said, that would be a per fixed they beat Awesome Truth and maybe
that's the plan, like you said, there could be some culmination. I'd
be fine that and then you split them up eventually, so again I'll wait
and see. Because it's Triple H and the crew right now, So I
think Raw and smack Num will actually be big shows, not like last year
was like one of the worst raws ever after me and it was just like
King Roun. Yeah, Corbyn can train them. I used to be a
king. I'll show you all the ways. And then other match I loved
is because I've not seen her too much, not Roseanne Rosanna, seen Roseann
Perez and rox em Press and then what is her name again? I feel
like I screwed up and I always say Valkyrie lya first, but so I
haven't seen her wrestle too much. But I really enjoyed it. I thought
the match was really good. Uh pres it's I think it's good for the
BNT champion. I don't think it's where she's floundering yet because she's doing this
heel thing, but she's also just like she's ready to go up. She
this character she has. Yeah, that's I didn't I didn't know what I
thought you're gonna say xt titles, but yeah, she was and the rumbles,
but she's great this stuff she's doing. But yeah, really good match,
and uh yeah, I'm excited to see them both kind of in the
future. But I guess Perez is gonna have a little heel rundown XT.
So yeah, I like her back here. There was a while where it
was like I don't know, she was like not boring, but like she
didn't really have anything going on, being like it wasn't like I was like
I'm the champ and and like like I can should beat me, and and
there and there did some stuff definitely did have There's been like two pivots because
like first it was like it was pretty clear that Coora Jade was gonna challenge
her before she got injured, because they had like a number one contenders match
like the day after she got injured. She was supposed to be in that.
Yeah, and then also like Shotzi was probably gonna take the title off
of her she got injured, and then they were probably gonna have shots yet
stand in the liver and then like drop it back to her or something like
that. But yeah, so there's been a lot of like injury stuff going
on because even like I'll tuck with someone on Twitter and they're like like Blair
Downport may have been the Oh I forget how they worded that, but it
was like like transitional number one contender because she was like she won the like
uh the uh those Iron Tirn Survivor and then after the match, like cord
J just like dropped her with the she dropped Laarra Valkyria with the championship.
Will Blair just won the number one contender. Sh It's like okay, so
Blair's not winning because you're gonna have cord J to have the match against Larra
Valkeria like and that happened on like the first NXC Leader and it's like,
yeah, okay Laarra Valkaria one. Yeah, it sucked with Jade, I
really hope because she was injured, came out and then got injured right away.
I hope. Luckily it's a different era. It sucked. And the
Vince era, if you got injured like three times very close, your injury
prone, and then the Vince was done with you. Like Dolph's think at
one point was uber hot. He got a fucking concussion in his world title
reign, and Vince was like, oh yeah, we can't really put the
belt on him anymore because like it's like you got anyone can get a fucking
concussion, man, Like, So I hope we're not in this era where
people they do get the like, oh, like she's getting injured a locked
because Jade, she's some she reminds me of young Rio where it's like she's
got it. I'm not saying because like wrestling, Twitter just thirst over her
every week because that pops up my time, my all time Courd Jade will
post something and then it's like the dogs are out right. But I think
she legitimly has like a big it quality where it's like she could be a
big time star. So I hope that when she comes back she can have
like a nice, good, healthy, long run because was supposed to put
a like Courd Jade and Rock stand the gallery and his heels do the main
roster that I think that'd be a good way to bring him up. We
still got the women's tag team titles that are they're not cursed, but you
know they still need like a little more hutzba like the brawn and uh corn
thing. When she's healthy, bring them both up at the same time.
Maybe like Corey, get a couple reps and make sure she's all clear and
everything, but I'd bring them up that way. That'd be a good way.
I'm sure Sean though, wants to do it. So maybe they'll have
to hang back for a couple of years. I don't know, but not
for too long because it's tough because you want to support x T. When
do they make the move to c W. I think like it's like sometime
this year, like September or something like that, so they still gonna wait.
So I was gonna say, you want a hold, I gu it's
not a way because you still want to have people on there, right,
That's it. I feel like right now they're like starting to build like all
the new people. Yeah, Like they had like the hype package for Javon
Evans and he's definitely something like he was like he was getting chants like to
his theme song on his second ever match on n XT Level Up and it's
his fifth match and they're moving him to like the main show already. Yeah.
So that's always the tough things t right, get the taking poll where
it's training people for WWE, but you also have to put on a show
that people are and watch and get ratings. Like it's always I think it
wasn't a big struggle and was on the w network because that was their own
network, and it's like, well whatever if people are watching this great,
But now when it's like a show that people are paying for, like CW's
paying for whatever the deal is, it's like you still got to CW is
free TV, like like you get it through the satellite, so that'd be
more viewers. It's it's local television here, and they also have everything airing
on the CW app, so like you can watch everything next day for free.
Yeah, anything else on stand deliver that. I know. We see
Julia, right, you saw, which that's somebody I'm not familiar with because
I've not watched much of her jokes. I've seen the clips of her just
beating the ship at people, which I've seen highlights. That's it, Yeah,
exactly, So it's not it's unfortunately like an independent wrestler or someone on
the side that usually have some knowledge of I've not seen a match yet,
but yeah, I think it's fine her starting XT. I know a lot'll
be like, oh, you can't just be the main roster. But she
still a different style and she's been working in a very different style for years.
And there's some people like I saw like aj styles they said like he
wished he had started an XC to gets used to like the ww oh yeah,
like world. Yeah, and that makes sense. I'm glad aj styles
didn't because I was at a time where like I think it fit. But
yeah, it makes sense. Like Knockamore on Finn Ballack, they all went
there, and it's not like the only reason I think lesser of Knockamore and
finn Balor is not because they went to XT. It's just because like their
booking lately has been very like all right, you know, so it's not
I'm not looking back man, finn Balor and XT him being there. It's
and fucking Simo Joe, Kevin Owens Samy's like they're all and I guess those
are different examples, right, but still they were independent stars elsewhere that came
over. It makes sense. She's she's learning English right now. Still she's
going to train that style. Like I don't know what any controversies I see
people like, oh man, they shouldn't bring her there. It's like,
I don't know, like it's it's standard, even if she's there for a
couple of months. I think another one that would have been we would have
been a Acuda went there because it's just weird for it's off because Malcolmore did
it too, but it's just it's odd, But I'm fine with it.
Whatever they want to train them, they train to chase you exchange student her
cousin to the cousin to the cousin to the family because she's half the time.
Anything else about anything this week and we've seen so far anymore tonight you
want to shut out or bring up as we bring the super clothes. I
think the L A. Knight ag Styles match could be could be good or
it would be fun. Are you disappointed to get a stip because you weren't
alone everyone? Yeah, I was expecting it was. I feel like there's
someone's I don't know. I don't feel like they went with that many stipulations
because you're gonna have the big bloodline rules, not nine rules. Do we
get that in the next two K game the Bloodline rules match, and that's
what they're just called d Q matches. I mean they already have extreme rules,
no holds far and the Yeah, well it's so funny too, like
before extreme rules, the matches be like a hardcore match, and then they
rebranded that something of they should, but I didn't think about that. You
have extreme rules and no holds barred. That's funny because like, what is
it, what's even the difference in the game. I think it's I think
in the game it's like it's just they put like if you have it on
default settings, there's different weapons under the ring. So if you have like
if it's Extreme Rules, it's like kendo sticks, tables, trash can.
If you have like no holds barred, it's like sledgehammer, shovel like the
kind of stuff. Yeah. And I think in Extreme Rules you can put
the ladder like you can bridge the ladder, and no holds barred you can't.
I don't know why. Okay, there you go. That's apparently the
difference. Yeah. I think maybe didn't get a stip to because maybe they
might do this match a couple of times. I could see it a backlash
with a stip and everything. But yeah, fun little segment of his nose
getting busted. But yeah, I think all the matches have on the street
fight, which will just be fun. I think there's some potential there.
So yeah, David anything, No, I'm just excit about tonight. I'm
excited to watch Cody finish the story and see where we go from here.
Yeah. Man, I'm telling you, if codyn finished the story, gee
you mean cashing in on Cody? Oh God, it was gonna be a
long podcast tonight, but yeah no, we'll end it there. We'll be
back later tonight to bring that down. Tonight's show will be quicker because it'll
be later. That will be just purely about the show, unless twenty convad's
the arena and does something. But we will be back and our Night Too
review will happen. I can't wait. It's only what is it, five
hours away? Now we're closed, so yep. Yeah, everybody, if
you're listening this before the fact, thanks for being the chat, thanks for
watching. I enjoy night too, and I won't be boring. We'll talk
to you later. But