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I remember, I mean ten years ago when 36 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:55.000 they came out, they were upsetting because I feel like the third book is 37 00:03:55.039 --> 00:04:04.759 like a little unrelentless is the wrong word, but like they for they unforgivingly 38 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:13.319 portray like you know what a fascist rule looks like. And right now it's 39 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.319 like, oh, wow, okay, this is I forgot what it was 40 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:21.120 like when Catness goes back to her whole district, and I you know, 41 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.600 when it all started coming back. As I was watching it, I was 42 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.920 like, this is very overwhelming. I'm very anxious. Yeah, I mean, 43 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:35.839 and I the movies are well made, Like I don't remember being as 44 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:41.319 impressed when I initially saw them, but I'm very upon rewatch. I was 45 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:46.839 like, Wow, these movies are very solid. Yeah, because like for 46 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:53.639 this one, there's not there's very little action. I think there's exactly like 47 00:04:54.959 --> 00:05:00.120 one scene of Catenish shooting and arrow. She goes to shoot an arrow a 48 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.319 different scene and Commissioner Gordon is like, uh no, you can't shoot at 49 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:12.079 that in here. But yeah, like this is very much I mean, 50 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.600 it's the kind of action I love, which is I love watching movies about 51 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:23.519 submarines, and because I just I like watching is mostly interpersonal, yeah, 52 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:27.040 and people are like staying in a room yelling orders about things. The reason 53 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:30.399 I love Pallas Star Galactica because it's just like, you know, Edward James 54 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:33.879 almost just yelling things into a phone and he's just like, oh, like 55 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.480 you know, they're coming in at Carram eight nine twelve, like vipers take 56 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.399 them out, And I'm just like, yes, just yell things into that 57 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:47.439 phone. But we're gonna get We hang out with Julian Moore a whole lot. 58 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:54.519 Herschel Lee shows up. He does this super cool kind of slow Moe 59 00:05:54.560 --> 00:06:01.399 walk away from what looks like the X Men plane pulling away. Yeah, 60 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:06.360 And I was texting Susie and Natalie Dormer appears later in the film. I'm 61 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.800 just like, oh, man, Gail in a Peter have some competition. 62 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:15.519 Now, I don't know, her character is kind of annoying in the way 63 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:25.199 that Gail's kind of annoying. So I know that I'm older and not as 64 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:30.040 like I just have no interest in problematic people, like dating or being attracted 65 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:33.519 to problematic people. I'm like, why do we ever think there was a 66 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:38.959 debate? You know, I know I was a little hard on you last 67 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.680 week because Gail saved an elderly woman and you were like, oh, that 68 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:50.519 guy's the worst. But now it's started seeing his relationship with the President and 69 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:56.959 his single mindedness about their mission. It's starting to come back to me what 70 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.279 he does in the last one, and I'm like, oh, okay, 71 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:04.079 now I don't get why Frank has this extra grind with Gail. But at 72 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:08.120 the time that he was just saving elderly women, I was like, twelve, 73 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:13.759 friend, what you might want to reconsider that stancer? Yeah, I 74 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:19.920 mean it's just it's a it's a problematics. I mean, yeah, it's 75 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:25.279 more than problematic. Like when Gail is buddy buddy with President Coin. President 76 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:30.279 Coin played by Julian Moore, And I mean in this movie, President Coin 77 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:36.600 presents as a thoughtful, diplomatic person. Yeah, as somebody who is doing 78 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:42.240 the best with what she has, which is not a whole lot. Like 79 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.399 there's well, we'll get there, but there's a debate about, like you 80 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.720 know this kind in the book, there's constantly debates about resources and like how 81 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:54.680 much you can give up for something because like they can you know, it's 82 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:59.879 not like they can go out and the capitol knows where District thirteen is, 83 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.480 so it's not like we can go out and build farms and whatnot and farm 84 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:05.360 the land because like the minute you know, somebody sticks their head of that 85 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:09.920 gopher hole, President in Snow is just gonna come out and like just blow 86 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:15.600 it to hell. So you know, it's it's a difficult. It's a 87 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:24.319 difficulty, but yeah, so should we hop into it. Yes, absolutely, 88 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:37.600 So we we start with Catness. She's hiding an event basically and is 89 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.399 going over things in her head like she's like, these are the things that 90 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.360 I know are real, And then like we have you know, some people 91 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:52.440 like Miss Everdeen, you need to come out of there, like and she's 92 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.240 like refusing. She says, no, please, just five more minutes and 93 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:00.879 they drag her out and take her back to bed because she still recovering from 94 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:05.320 the games, and she hears somebody crying and she gets up and she goes 95 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:09.519 to find Finnick, who is also suffering from the games and the fact that 96 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:18.360 they did not get Annie Cresta out of the Capitol. And this is where 97 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:26.720 Mahaschel Ali shows up. He's playing Captain Boggs and you know, he just 98 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:33.840 stand there looking handsome as hell. I have a question because there's a point 99 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:48.000 that Catness mentions that Snow and the Capitol are using Peta as well as Annie 100 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.639 to torture them. But I don't remember seeing any evidence of that. What 101 00:09:54.000 --> 00:10:00.600 was she referring to? And see I understand the Peda part because we see 102 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:05.879 him a bunch of TV and they're using him as sort of a chest piece 103 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:13.279 to maneuver against Catness, but I didn't understand how Annie was being utilized. 104 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.879 Well, it's just the unknowing nature of what's happening to her, okay, 105 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:26.679 because like you know, I don't think Phinnick is particularly like, you know, 106 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.919 Finnick knows what the Capitol does, and they're going like he's like if 107 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:39.320 I'm here, if your loved one is not there in front of you. 108 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:50.960 He never that they're okay. So we eventually, you know, Maha maj 109 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:58.080 Ali, Captain Boggs takes her to go reunite with her mom and sister. 110 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.600 They're living in a little like you know, a little apartment. You know. 111 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:09.679 They talk about how everything is, you know, everything is controlled here, 112 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:18.600 and then she's taken to me President Coin and pleasant Coin is seen almost 113 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:26.440 constantly with Plutarch. Yeah, and like they explained to her that, like, 114 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:33.200 okay, so the arrow that catin is shot into the forest field led 115 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:39.320 to riots and over half the districts and thus they bombed the hell out of 116 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.000 District twelve and Catness and they're like, we need you to be our mocking 117 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:50.960 Jay. You're going to be our yeah, like the symbol of our rebellion. 118 00:11:50.879 --> 00:12:01.519 And Catinus refuses because they did not save Peta. So Plutark is like, 119 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:09.120 hey, Coin, you need to be gentle of her, because yeah, 120 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:16.240 it's cat miss Maybe let her see what has happened, and so he 121 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:24.080 says specifically she has forgotten. One of them talks about Catness forgetting who the 122 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.000 enemy is, which is a phrase we heard a lot in the previous movie, 123 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:35.279 like don't forget who the real enemy is. And Plutarch's plan is that 124 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:43.200 uh Catness needs to basically needs to be reminded of the evil that the Capital 125 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:52.799 does and wants to send her to District twelve, which President Coin says again 126 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.759 the discussion of resources, like we can't really release people to protect her, 127 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:03.360 and she seems to underestimate the benefit that it's going to have to their larger 128 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.879 plan, but Blue Stark says, more or less, just trust me, 129 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:13.159 I got this, and that's when we see the cool slow motion walk away 130 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:18.279 from the plane as Captain Buggs watches them depart, which I'm surprised that Captain 131 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:24.519 Boggs didn't go on this mission. It seems very touchy and like he should 132 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.840 probably be there since it's so serious, But I don't know. I'm not 133 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:35.000 military minded. So what's even more confusing is they just kind of drop off 134 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.679 Catnus alone in District twelve and like, we've always sweeped the area. You 135 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:41.919 know, it's fine, there's no booby traps or anything. We'll be watching 136 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:48.320 you from above. So if something happens, Catus is going to have to 137 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:54.759 wait for this hover plane to lower again. She doesn't even have any weapons 138 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.320 on her, Like it's like, fucking just give her a bow, Like, 139 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:03.559 give her a bow. It's bizarre sort of way of approaching this. 140 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.159 And then I had misremembered it, and I thought, this is when they 141 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:13.799 got the footage of her that and they basically call it propaganda. They state 142 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:20.759 that they need to make propaganda videos that in order to perpetuate the rebellion, 143 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:28.320 there needs to be bolstering and I so I was like, oh, that's 144 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.039 why they dropped her off, so that it would be sincere in candid, 145 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.120 But no, they just kind of abandoned her for a little bit, which 146 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:41.000 really does not track with all of the subsequent conversations that they're going to have 147 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.919 about keeping her safe. Yeah, and like her safety being a huge priority 148 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.799 and an issue that they need to keep in mind. So I don't know. 149 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.360 The other thing I was going to bring up is that Jennifer Lawrence is 150 00:14:52.519 --> 00:15:00.559 acting in this moment is very very good. Like I think that she did 151 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:07.440 an amazing job throughout this film, and there are a lot of sort of 152 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:15.919 difficult notes she has to hit, like horror and despondents and just the whole 153 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:22.320 range of emotions, and this this moment where she sees like the devastation and 154 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:28.320 genocide of the people that she's known her whole life is like, it's it's 155 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:37.080 gutting. She did, I think a really fantastic job. Yeah. Yeah, 156 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.960 because like there was not a whole lot of warning at District twelve, 157 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:48.480 so Gail could only get out that so many people. Because we will hear 158 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:56.200 that story later, Gail will talk about how he had noticed that the capital 159 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.679 withdrew all their troops and there was silence, and everyone was ordered into their 160 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:07.200 home and that's when he realized that something was probably going to happen. So 161 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:15.080 him and a group of men tried to rally people and bring them to like 162 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:21.080 the fence edge I guess on the outer parts of the district. But so 163 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:27.120 many people were too scared to leave their homes that they ended up dying during 164 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:32.200 the firebombing, and that only I think. He says it's nine hundred and 165 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:37.679 fifteen people got out, but that's out of ten thousand. Yeah, So 166 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:44.799 I just for the first time I looked this up. District twelve is the 167 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:49.240 East Coast, you know, it's made up of New Jersey, and it's 168 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:55.480 made up of New Jersey, New York State, and Pennsylvania. District thirteen 169 00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:00.279 is all of northern New England. Oh yeah, still holds up an apple 170 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:04.519 last night. I had never thought about the geography before. Capital City looks 171 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:11.039 like like Utah, So, which would make sense because if you think of 172 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:18.400 where the Hoover Dam is and where what is that District five is where they 173 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:25.160 destroyed the dam. Yeah, that would make sense geographically. I'm looking at 174 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:30.519 this map. What the hell happened to Florida? Yeah? I think it 175 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:40.559 because there was a cataclysmic event that led to or was is it a It 176 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:45.519 was a war, but there weren't. I thought there was. Additionally, 177 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.839 like environmental factors, there wasn't. I don't know. I just know Canada 178 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:57.160 is now just the wilds. Yeah. But anyways, like in Yellow Jackets, 179 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:03.480 yeah that I want to watch the second season of So Badly, but 180 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:10.039 I'm so scared Mexico is still around. That's good. Yeah. Anyway, 181 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:18.400 So, uh Catinus, you know, watching the devastation, she heads to 182 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:26.480 uh her her The Victor mansions that they were living in the left side has 183 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:32.440 all been destroyed, but the right side has been left intact. I'm assuming 184 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:37.480 on purpose, well it belongs to the capital. Yeah, but I guess 185 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:45.880 yeah, I mean, as we know, bombing is not meticulous, a 186 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:52.680 meticulous endeavor, so it doesn't surprise me at all that you know, Yeah, 187 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.519 it just wout half of it, but not all of it. Yeah, 188 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:06.079 So they she gets her father's jacket, she gets her mother's herbs, 189 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:12.599 and then she's surprised and Buttercup the cat shows up, and she takes the 190 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:15.920 cat, puts the cat in her bag, and the cat's very angry because 191 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.920 this cat just straight up hates cat. Miss Also, what cat are you 192 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:26.240 stepping into a bag that easily? I'm assuming this cat knows what's up. 193 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:33.799 He's lived, he's lived in PanAm long enough. And she I do, 194 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.200 like how can is like interacts with it much like most cat on She's like, 195 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:40.599 yeah, yeah, crime here, or she stuffs it in the in 196 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.680 the bag. She goes into her old dining room and amongst the dead flowers, 197 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:51.720 she finds a single white rose, which I understand the symbolism of it, 198 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:53.240 like Coy being like, I know you come back here, but I 199 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:56.480 mean, like, do they just have somebody bring you a new rose out 200 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.960 here? Every week? So I was also confused about this. Still says 201 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:08.079 that he has his own genetically engineered roses presidents. Now okay, because I 202 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:14.160 was also like wait what So yeah, so she sees the rose, she 203 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.039 gets horrified, they leave. Oh. I also want to point out, 204 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:21.559 like, besides how good Jennifer, Jennifer Lawrence's acting is, this is an 205 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:26.799 amazing The shot where they drop her off is amazing because like you see the 206 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.640 hover plane and then like that's all you see if she comes down the gangplank 207 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:36.000 and then as it pulls away, like it reveals just how devastated everything is. 208 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:38.960 I just thought that was a really good shot. Yeah. So she 209 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.160 comes back, she hands off the herbs and the cat to her mom and 210 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:52.119 sister, and what is the event that has her go to become the mocking 211 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.079 Jay? Oh? Yeah. She finds out that, you know, the 212 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:03.079 Pete is still alive because the Capital is running their own propos of him, 213 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:08.920 you know, basically talking to Caesar Flickerman and saying like let's end this war. 214 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:14.319 And everybody hates Peter because they think he's just doing this on his own. 215 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.960 He's food in the mess hall. Yeah, so she goes to talk 216 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:26.640 to Coin with her list of demands, and the list is that, you 217 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:32.079 know, the other tributes will be freed as soon as they can't, as 218 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:36.400 soon as it is possible, and then they will all be given full pardons, 219 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:42.640 and Coin just says no, Well, she says no, but then 220 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:47.240 she says, well, we'll conven in a tribunal and then it'll be voted 221 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:55.279 on. And Plutarch again basically has to massage the situation and be like, 222 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:59.640 look, I get both of your side, I understand completely, but here's 223 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:10.160 the and this is when he convinces President Coin that they need Catness. They 224 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:15.319 have no revolution without Catness, and sometimes concessions need to be made. So 225 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:27.119 then President Coin goes up and President Coin counters that if Catness does not sort 226 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:33.680 of follow through or pay out on any of her promises or I guess obligations 227 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:38.960 slash duties, uh, the plan is revoked. Thus, you know Peter 228 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:48.680 will be held accountable for his Uh. Yeah, I was like, it's 229 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:55.359 hard to we as the viewer know that he is being manipulated by the Capitol 230 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:59.920 because we read the books. And also it's again does not track with Peter 231 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:07.039 character that he would be like, I love President Snow's vision and really just 232 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.319 want to do everything I can to aid this absolute maniac monster to get what 233 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:15.720 he wants. So it's hard to even take Oh sorry, go ahead, 234 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:17.880 Frank, No, you were going to make a very good point. So 235 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.720 I was just gonna say it's hard to imagine a world where Peter would be 236 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:30.799 tried for I guess propagandizing. I don't again, like crimes. Question mark 237 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.599 is a perfect way of putting it, because it's like, well, what 238 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.839 exactly is going on? What? I get that we're mad, but like 239 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:42.279 about what? Okay, So I have a question for you regarding this conversation 240 00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:47.160 in any form of media, have you ever heard the word tribunal and gotten 241 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.720 pumped and like this is gonna lead to something good. Every time I hear 242 00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:53.200 the word tribunal, I'm like, oh no, because like, well, 243 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.559 I would say what I'm gonna counter with is I would say that is in 244 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:07.440 like modern Europe and culture, it's always used as a sort of It's used 245 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.799 to to know, like an unreasonable group of people who are trying to meet 246 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:18.000 their own needs. I will say I have to assume that when it was 247 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:25.599 used properly in the context of like a tribe or a community or a village. 248 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:30.000 Ostentably, you had a group of people with balanced opinions that we're thinking 249 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.920 along the line of the great or good. I think just in modern fiction, 250 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:41.359 where like a tribunal usually leads to like death or unreasonableness or groupthink. 251 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.039 But I think the idea of a tribunal being like, okay, well we 252 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:53.000 have a representative from this group and like this interest, that a compromise would 253 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:59.279 be reached. But I don't know how that would function in District thirteen. 254 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.920 Again, there you have a tribunal, but you also have a president. 255 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:10.720 So is it like the three branches in US government, because as we've seen, 256 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:12.440 those are not balanced, and that doesn't work at all. I mean, 257 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:17.920 okay, this is what I will say. When any group of decision 258 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:22.160 makers is ruled by their own selfish interests, you are not going to get 259 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:25.440 a good outcome. You're not going to see a good and fair outcome because 260 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:30.799 people are trying to manipulate the system to their own means. I don't I 261 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.279 know that. You know, we'll see stuff in the next movie, but 262 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:41.000 as we know District thirteen, I don't necessarily see that happening because all of 263 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:47.000 the discussions are about what is being done for the greater good, Like we 264 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.519 have to think of everyone. You cannot think about the individual. You're thinking 265 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:56.440 about the benefit of everyone. And so I think the conversation would come down 266 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:03.039 to can we have Pena and Nernitz? Would that be okay for the crew? 267 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.160 And again, like Peter is, as far as they know, fairly 268 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:12.559 innocuous. He's basically a prisoner of war right now. He can't be blamed 269 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:17.359 for his actions, and when we find out what happens to him, it's 270 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:21.480 even worse than that. So, yeah, that was a lot of words. 271 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.440 I just I was thinking about, like, well, how could that 272 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.799 decision be fairly made? And it's it's hard. I think it's hard, 273 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:37.400 And I I feel like President Coin is in a difficult situation. Yeah, 274 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.440 well, I mean you can all. But like, I feel like she 275 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.920 doesn't see the digical situation because, like the I would not be surprised if 276 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.480 she serves on the tribunal and she would want like what I know of Coin? 277 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:52.039 You know, as the reader, I feel like she would kill Peter 278 00:26:52.359 --> 00:27:00.359 immediately because like what pretty inflexible? So yeah, so and like but yeah, 279 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.400 so you saying what we know of Coin? At the end of the 280 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:08.160 books or at this point in the book, I was current, Like if 281 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.519 I was watching this for the first time, i'd say currently, but also, 282 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:12.920 but I'm also saying because I know what happens at the end of the 283 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:18.559 books, if I was also because like she can just say, like he 284 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.720 said these things, we heard him say it that, like I can easily 285 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:27.400 see how I can see the the the the argument for the prosecution basically, 286 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:32.759 and you know, it's like like, oh, you know he said, 287 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:34.839 like look, we have video evidence of him saying these things, and the 288 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.519 defense is like he was hijacked, Like, oh, show me Evans that 289 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.160 like, ah, fuck, sorry, Pete did my best? Did you 290 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:47.279 know? Well, that's the other interesting part is that they figure out what 291 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.680 happened to him, And I know, I understand that this is like for 292 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:56.559 the benefit of movie making, like we don't want to have to watch them 293 00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.839 go through like what do you think's wrong with him? What could have happened 294 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:06.799 this PTSD? What is this? Oh, he's been hijacked? But I 295 00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:11.359 really I I'm skipping to the end just because we're talking about hijacking and we'll 296 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:18.319 go back. But like I feel like one of the reasons that that final 297 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:26.519 scene seeing Peter restrained and he's so agitated and tortured and so upset, and 298 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:34.359 the juxtaposition of cat Is looking at him through the viewing window wearing the neck 299 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:41.839 brace. One of the reasons it's so powerful and so upsetting was because Plutark 300 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.279 says, look, we put a team together, we're on it. It's 301 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.079 totally fine. And then because he's like a pr guy, this is has 302 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:59.039 been and seeing the truth of it is so brutal because Peta is anything but 303 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:03.960 fine and who has lost so much along with everyone else at this point. 304 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.519 But cats are you know, our protagonist has lost so much and now she 305 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:15.559 has her friend back, but he's gone, and it's I don't it's it's 306 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:21.240 a lot. And then you have to think about like what they did to 307 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:26.000 him, Like Peta looks in terrible physical condition and he's been broken psychologically. 308 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.640 It's I don't know, it's a lot. Well, yeah, that's also 309 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:37.000 the thing, Like there's four movies, Like we've watched two of them so 310 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.440 far. How violent has Peta been in any of these movies? Like, 311 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:47.680 yeah, he really never I don't think we've seen him. We've watched Catness 312 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.240 predicates so much more violence on people than Peta at all. Yeah, Like 313 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:56.200 in the first movie, he kills no one. He the most violent thing 314 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:03.160 he does he throws one of those big metas and balls one handed, because 315 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.279 uh kad, this is just like YO, throw something, and he's like, 316 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:10.640 you got it. In the second in the second one, he does 317 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:12.920 kill somebody, but it's underwater so we don't see it. And then in 318 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.839 this one, because he's being attacked, he's actively being attacked. It's not 319 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.640 like he swim over and was like I'm gonna get you. He was like 320 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.559 I need to save myself from being drownded. Yeah. And then in the 321 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:33.359 and then so when he sees her and he grabs her by the throat and 322 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:40.240 like it's strangling her to death, like you know, it's horrifying. And 323 00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:44.839 then like you're suddenly reminded, like and like he's just throwing her body around 324 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.720 and you're still in your minded like, oh god, he is very strong. 325 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.960 I forgot about that because and Josh Hutchinson is i think maybe the same 326 00:30:53.079 --> 00:31:03.319 size as Jennifer Lawrence. And he's so gone and and they they've applied so 327 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:11.319 much like bruising and sort of affliction to his face, but he looks absolutely 328 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.920 haunted in that scene. She's she's five nine, he's five five. Oh 329 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:21.400 my god, so she has four feet four feet Jesus soothie four? Yes? 330 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.119 Wow? Okay, he's like, I must kill the giant. Yeah. 331 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:33.519 So he flies at her, and we the viewer, or if you 332 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.400 haven't read the books, are like, what the fuck? Because the whole 333 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.680 push of this movie, the whole crux of Catnus's plan, has been we 334 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.960 need to bring Pete home. I don't do anything until Pete's back, like 335 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:52.079 basically, don't talk to me till I've had my peta and when he is 336 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:59.119 returned. And I mean the other part is I know that no one necessarily 337 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:06.720 knew he was hired because like basically his trigger word, his crowatoa is catus, 338 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.559 but like a heads up gale, Like he doesn't look great, he 339 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.799 doesn't seem to be doing well, not in good condition. Maybe give him 340 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:22.920 a beat, none of that. Every this movie oscillates so wildly between Catenus 341 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:28.200 needs to be superised and protected at all costs and catess, Uh, you're 342 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.599 good to take care of yourself for a couple hours, right, Okay, 343 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:37.519 Well, we'll call the check ind like it's wildly like discordant. Yeah, 344 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.960 like even like even in Balzycoactica, like a Dama who was a pretty big 345 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.160 badass of in and of himself, always had a marine escort because he was 346 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:53.680 important. Yeah, so they play very fast and loose with like how escorted 347 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.759 catus has to be a different moment. I don't know. I don't get 348 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.880 to talk about Adama that much. The show Sure Knock Yourself Out. Kills 349 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.599 one guy with a flashlight in the first series and then disarms two men about 350 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.880 forty years his juniors in another scene, and I'm like, yeah, damma, 351 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:20.039 get it. Yes who I also loved when he was in Stand and 352 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.480 Deliver And have you ever seen that movie? No, it's about a bunch 353 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:31.119 of kids from It's from like the Wrong side of the Tracks. Every James 354 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:35.519 almost is a math teacher. He teaches them how to do calculus. They 355 00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:40.960 get near perfect scores on this calculus this state calculus exam, and everybody thinks 356 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:47.039 they cheated somehow. It's actually brought up. Give me the answers to a 357 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:52.440 calculus test. I would absolutely still feel it. Calculus is hard and I 358 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:57.359 can't do it. So I'm like the idea of accusing people of cheating a 359 00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.240 calculus as job. Yeah. My favor part is he like he's like these 360 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.440 kids were like he's arguing with them, and they're like, have them retaste 361 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.000 take a test under different circumstances. It's like, fine, they'll take your 362 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.000 test and they'll pass it. If I see you, like, if I 363 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.920 see you around my neighborhood, kick your ass, I'm like, oh god, 364 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:17.039 I'd be scared to be thrown by over trims. Almost elderly at that 365 00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:22.000 point, right, No, he was like middle aged. I'd say he 366 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.920 had a he had a comb over. But he was also like he brought 367 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.280 a picture of him in your journal and it says like daddy under it with 368 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:45.039 hearts no no full no, that that's Petter Pascal who thing. This is 369 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:50.199 just a slight tangent. But it was h the Vanity Fair, you know 370 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:54.039 how they do this like detector test with the cast of Merrily We Roll Along. 371 00:34:54.239 --> 00:35:00.800 So it's Jonathan Groff. Oh god, it always want to call him 372 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.400 Harry Potter, this poor man. Yes, he's such a fantastic actor. 373 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.599 I love him and everything else he's in, and I just it's like burned 374 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:13.280 into my brain. It's so respectful. That is what happens with perfect casting. 375 00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:15.320 What do you think I see Chris Evans, No, I see Steve 376 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.960 Rogers. Yeah, I was gonna I did I keep forgetting his name is 377 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:25.079 Steve Rogers. I'm like Captain America. So same thing. One of the 378 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:32.880 questions is who's more of a daddy? Uh, Daniel Radcliff or Jonathan Groff. 379 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:39.760 And the actress is like, I just don't I don't want to call 380 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:44.159 anyone and daddy. She says, they don't regular, but he replies, 381 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.239 is that because I'm literally a dad? And she's like yes, like, 382 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:55.840 don't make me do this. Yeah. Well, the thing is like the 383 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.440 weird thing with Petram Pascal is he was this like turbo sex god on Game 384 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:06.519 of Thrones over in Martel. Okay, that like when I see like then 385 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.000 he goes to I didn't realize he was, and that's why everyone's well, 386 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.920 you know, he he's on Game of Thrones, Like he just shows up, 387 00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.320 He's all swagger and like, but then he gets killed in the worst 388 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:21.719 way possible. And then he was on Atomic Wedgie. No, his like 389 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:27.000 head gets crushed. Oh jesus, it's Game of Thrones, Susie, I 390 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.639 still have not seen a full episode of Game of Thrones. Yeah, do 391 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:35.039 you know what I watched? Just the episode that has the Starbucks cup in 392 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:42.960 it over and over for me. A Clark Clark Amelia Clark plays Denaris. 393 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.559 Oh, I've seen her in a movie. I saw her in that uh 394 00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:52.280 All I Want for Christmas movie. Yeah. I think I was like, 395 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.159 why is? I was thinking myself because like, I think she's a fantastic 396 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:58.639 actress, and like she's just hasn't been in a whole lot since Game of 397 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:04.280 Thrones ended, though she did for He's a character and a Terry Pratchett cartoon, 398 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:09.039 Maurice and his Educated Rodents. But then I remember, like, right, 399 00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:14.400 she was probably making like a million dollars an episode. She's good on 400 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.400 money. She's not like Nick Cage, who is just like, oh god, 401 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.880 I gotta pay all the tax man. I mean, I'm very much 402 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:27.760 looking forward to that new Nicholas Cage movie dream scenario. I mean, anytime 403 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.119 I see Nicholas Cage like, well, that's all my ridar now. But 404 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:36.800 the thing is seen the preview for that one, no, that he keeps 405 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:43.199 showing up in everyone's dream like, I mean everyone. So he becomes nationally 406 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.800 famous and then Hyjenson sue so he's just regular ast Nick cagecause Nick Cage appears 407 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:52.599 my dreams many times. Is he trying to murder you? Because that's what 408 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.320 happens in some people's dreams. No, we make love. Oh god, 409 00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:04.440 Frank Brik's like, no follow up? What what? What followup you want 410 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.440 from that? Suz? What you want from that? That you say something 411 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.119 like we also get married? Now he's not gonna put a ring on this. 412 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.760 I was gonna say, I really demand commitment from the Cage to you. 413 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:23.760 And then I sent a pick to the crip keeper. Yeah, and 414 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:28.639 you're like jealous and he sent me back a picture of him in a tube 415 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.639 top. Oh my god, you're like so jealous over his crusty, crusty 416 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:39.559 ribs. Yeah, okay, we got so far away from this because it's 417 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:47.280 so sad is So let's go back to where we left off. She was 418 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:53.599 at District twelve and then she she gets she gets like we're a bit past 419 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:57.119 us. She gets the cat. She's like, I'll be here mocking Jay 420 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.320 as long as okay, sorry, as long as my niece gets her keep 421 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:06.519 her cat and we save Pieda and coins like I will relient on Peta. 422 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:07.719 But you know, butter cups too much of a loose Canada have in this 423 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:15.559 base, and I mean she kind of is. She really becomes a liability. 424 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:23.599 So they they Plutar calls on Effie Trinket and who I forgot was in 425 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:28.840 this movie. But Effie doesn't have her wigs, so she's wearing like a 426 00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:36.559 bandanna over her her head and she still yeah, she still looks lovely. 427 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:42.000 Her and Gail apparently know each other, which I was confused with how that 428 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:50.039 happened. I think he saved her or something. So maybe they took her 429 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:55.000 from the capitol while the games were going on. Yeah, so it wouldn't 430 00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:00.079 be that much time to get to know her because Cadness was only in the 431 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.840 arena for a little bit, right, Yeah, I don't know two d's 432 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:09.920 or something. Yeah, maybe, like who knows, maybe Gail was just 433 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.960 like Kenness would like it if if he was taken care of, I'll do 434 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.320 that for Cans. I'm that might be giving him too much credit. But 435 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.199 oh and they say Hamage. Gail only seems to care about what Catines wants, 436 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:27.719 like a third of the time. Yeah, and Hamage is sobering up 437 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:32.159 about a mild underground They say, you think that he was making rampart during 438 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.199 the time that he's not on screen. Yes, because it's so weird that 439 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.920 they'd be like, hey, I know you're looking for Hamage, but he's 440 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:45.000 not here right now. Like I wasn't thinking about Hamage. Where is King 441 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:51.960 leaving this? Oh he's behind that tree. So like them, but it 442 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.800 was almost like them pointing out the fact that Hamrich was on the room, 443 00:40:54.880 --> 00:41:00.840 really shining the light on it, because I was too busy thinking of everyone 444 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:05.000 who had come out of, you know, the arena. I wasn't like, 445 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:15.760 where is Rumpy Woody Harrelson. Yeah, So they get Effie reunites with 446 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.760 or maybe she just knows Gail. I don't know because of her time in 447 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:27.320 District twelve. Who knows? So they reunite. Uh. Effie says she 448 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.599 misses coffee, which I can understand that I'm not being into coffee, but 449 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.920 if you're not like me, a hydrohomine love only water. Yeah. But 450 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.840 she she sews Catinas Sennas designs for her armor, which all look really cool 451 00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:47.000 because of course they do, and you know, caniness. Sinna is definitely 452 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:58.320 dead and yeah, Effie's like, yes, I'm sorry. And Effie considers 453 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:04.599 herself a political refugee. She's not consider herself one of the rebels, so 454 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.039 they get her all armored up. And this is one of my favorite things 455 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:15.760 when actors, good actors have to do bad acting because it's just like I'll 456 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:21.280 get it. It's just it's like one of my It's like one of my 457 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:28.519 favorite things from the sixth seventh Harry Potter film, where like you have her, 458 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:34.719 you have Emma Watson being Hermione Granger pretending to be belitics are strange, 459 00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.880 and it's just like watching them go through those hoops as fun. And like 460 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:44.320 Plutark is pissed because she's like a PanAm forever and he's like, you aren't 461 00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:52.079 just in a battle, Yeah, I mean like to be heir to her. 462 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.760 It's like, in the same way that so many actors are asked to 463 00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:05.480 act against green screen, it seems very difficult. Yeah, Like Ian McKellan 464 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:12.320 had a breakdown when like on the filming of The Hobbit because like he was 465 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.880 just alone on a green screen stage and he's just like I did kno get 466 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.320 into acting to do this and yeah, and then they like made him a 467 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:28.280 little they they the the crew built the Hobbit home and like he went to 468 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.119 go hang out there. He was happier. That's good. Yeah. He 469 00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.000 also has this lovely thing where he's talking about like, oh, if you're 470 00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:40.079 lucky enough to go to I forget what town it is, but like a 471 00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.920 town I like you come home. You come home from England and you hop 472 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:49.360 in a cab, you know, and the first thing the cavy says, 473 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.440 he was like, will you go in love? Yeah, and he's just 474 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.559 like that's one of the best things to be welcomed home with love And if 475 00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:00.400 we could just do that like like that, like who cares about from let's 476 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.760 just call each other love from that on. Yeah, I'm just like, 477 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:06.360 oh you McKell and your tube persions for this world. I'm so happy you 478 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:13.519 and Patrick Stewart are friends. But he's like the love it was not good. 479 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.199 Well, the first one was okay, names of movies they're in. 480 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.159 Yeah. Plutarch is once again like, let's take her to an act of 481 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:30.800 war zone and coints like, so they take her to District eight, where 482 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:37.920 she's gonna meet the wounded she's introduced to Nelly Dormer, who played Marjorie Tyrrell 483 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:44.440 on Game of Thrones and still looks incredibly beautiful with half her hair shaved off. 484 00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:51.920 Pretty cool. Yeah. Castor and Pollocks make up the camera crew, 485 00:44:52.360 --> 00:45:00.559 and they also outfit Catnus with she's wearing her mocking Jay armor and she also 486 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.159 now has three different kinds of arrows, a regular kind, the explosive kind, 487 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:09.320 and an incendiary kind. She goes to shoot the incidiory the explosive arrow, 488 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:15.400 and Beattie is just like not in not basically like not in the house. 489 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:24.960 He has survived the arena, but he's now in a wheelchair. Yeah. 490 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:32.159 And what's interesting is he is basically like reverse engineering the work that he 491 00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:42.480 did for the Capital. Yeah. So they fly Catnus out to District eight, 492 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.400 where there's been heavy fighting. She visits with the wounded and they ask 493 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:51.880 her she's going to fight with them. She says yes, and they ask 494 00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:58.320 her about the baby and she says, I lost it. And the Capital 495 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:04.800 picks up that she's there and they send out bombers to bomb the hospital. 496 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:12.599 And the way that President snow justifies this as he said, you know, 497 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:23.039 we made an announcement that anyone that is caught with the mocking Jay is guilty 498 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:31.000 of treason. So this is what they reap and it's terrible. So they 499 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:37.960 the whole group of them has taken cover in an abandoned building. Gail and 500 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:43.880 Catness run to the roof of another building to try to shoot down some of 501 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:52.760 the planes, and then they take a propaganda film after she shoots down the 502 00:46:52.800 --> 00:47:01.119 plane of Catness talking about you know what the capital does, and that bombing 503 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:07.239 a hospital, killing innocent civilians is what the capital does. Yeah, and 504 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:14.039 she also she says the line if we burn, you burn with us. 505 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:21.320 Yeah. Do you see this fire? It's catching? Yeah. So they 506 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:30.320 head back. It's played for the districts. Immediately we see a counter from 507 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:35.599 the I'm not sure which one is the Wood District. It's Johanna's. I 508 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:46.440 think that's district for Okay. So President Snow has upped the ah what is 509 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:53.599 it called when you need to produce a certain quality quantity quotas? He's up 510 00:47:53.599 --> 00:48:05.519 the quotas and there are peace heapers escorting U the lumberjacks out to I guess 511 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:15.960 do lumberjack stuff, and one of them sees the mocking j symbol on the 512 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:21.000 tree and does the whistle like the three tone whistle, and then everyone starts 513 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:27.320 running. And as people are gunned down, a number of the lumberjacks start 514 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:31.239 climbing trees and one of them, once they're to the top of the tree, 515 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.119 they yell if you burn or if we burn, you burn with us, 516 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:43.159 and then they set off a number of land mines. Yeah, the 517 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:47.559 the unfortunate thing about any scene where people rebel is it's basically they outnumber. 518 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:57.880 Yeah, anything with what the peacekeepers, any fighting the peace keepers do or 519 00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.559 against the rebels, the rebels are just like we have we outnumber them. 520 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:05.119 That's the best we can do. And it might cost us a few lives, 521 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:09.360 but like we just had to swarm them, basically. And then so 522 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.119 the way the cadence of basically the rest of the movie goes, they release 523 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:25.280 a Catness propaganda video. So when they returned to District twelve, Catness is 524 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:36.480 talking to one of the filming team and he is it an a box and 525 00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:42.920 so he's signing to her about the mocking Jays and then asks her to sing, 526 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:52.079 So she sings, and this is then there's another propaganda video released and 527 00:49:52.119 --> 00:50:04.159 then her singing. This song is played under like as there's a mission going 528 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:14.039 on where they a group of rebels bring explosives onto the Oh god, what 529 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.360 is that called? Dam? Damn? Yes, so that is the Hoover 530 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.519 Dam, right, I mean it's a big I don't I can't say if 531 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.039 it is or not, but it's big enough to be the Hoover Dam. 532 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:29.559 I have never seen the Hoover Dam in person. I did see it in 533 00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.079 an episode of Pete and Pete, and I feel like, this is what 534 00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:35.800 the Hoover Dam will look like in the future. So I agree that it's 535 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:45.119 probably the Hoover Dam. So they again the technique of basically storming the peacekeepers 536 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:53.599 with people like just sheerly outnumbering them, and then they blow up the dam 537 00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:59.679 and then all of the power goes out in the capitol and presidents know again 538 00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:07.320 is pissed. So now uh President Snow counters with his own propaganda video of 539 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:21.639 Peta and they have phinnic uh jamming the airwaves. So that oh right, 540 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:25.559 Because so the plan is that they're going to go in and rescue the victors 541 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:36.599 from the capitol, and so Phinnick is just basically making can't be missed TV 542 00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:42.079 by talking about what n asshole President Snow is the fact, or, I 543 00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:50.719 said Peter Finick, the fact that President Snow basically like trafficked him and coerced 544 00:51:50.760 --> 00:52:00.440 him into like sex work that he didn't want to do, and that in 545 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:07.280 order to assuage themselves, the people that were taking advantage of him would tell 546 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.159 him secrets. And one of the secrets that we learn is that Presidents Now 547 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:19.599 has been slowly poisoning himself because he was killing off people around him that he 548 00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:30.199 felt threatened by. And then, uh, they when did the bombing happen 549 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:32.480 before or after this? Before? Right? Well? Okay, yeah, 550 00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:38.440 so they're going in now, Yeah, it happens before they're finally able to 551 00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:45.360 break through the Capital's defenses and they so now the Capitol is starting to see 552 00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:50.320 the proposts and they're seeing the ones of the bombed, you know, of 553 00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.480 her singing the song the song kind of things is called the hanging Tree. 554 00:52:54.199 --> 00:53:00.280 We're going to go out on it. And Peter sees her and that brings 555 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:07.400 him back to himself. And because I guess the damn controlled the electricity in 556 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:12.639 the Capitol, and you know, so that weakens the system, they're able 557 00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:17.039 to break through with their propos and he is able. He comes back to 558 00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:21.320 myself and he says, like, they're going to kill everyone, Catness, 559 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:28.000 they're coming, and you know, Cannes is like yeah, and Cannes realizes, 560 00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.840 oh god, he's warning us. They're sending bombers. So they start 561 00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:37.519 doing They're sending everybody as deep as they can into District thirteen to the bomb 562 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:47.360 shelters, and uh, Prim goes back for her cat, and you know, 563 00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:51.159 Cat is like Catness and her mom like, I thought you had frem 564 00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:55.039 and Ken, she went back for the god damn cat and she goes back. 565 00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.920 Prim has buttercups and runs her. Know, they barely make it into 566 00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:09.760 the bunkers and they're hanging down there, and you know, like we're listening 567 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.039 to the bombs fall, and you know, Coin is asking is there any 568 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:22.480 radiation or anything like that, and you know, then we see Catus Light 569 00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:30.559 having the cat chase a flashlight. Light and the Coin have a disagreement because 570 00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:37.079 Coin believes that certain parts of the district are being bombed because they've shown themselves 571 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:45.239 by having guns exposed, like anti aircraft guns, and Flutark says, well, 572 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:51.000 that's not necessarily true, and you can't just let them bomb you. 573 00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:55.199 And Coin says, basically tells him to mind his own beeswax and that he's 574 00:54:55.320 --> 00:55:00.840 very much out of his element. And so this is where we se the 575 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:08.000 initial disagreement between them about how to approach you know, dealing with the capital 576 00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:17.679 and retaliation. Yeah, but she calls back their their fleet and just like 577 00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.280 we're gonna just it's gonna be a long night. We're just gonna wait, 578 00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:28.719 wait this out. So yeah, so Catness, they want to have a 579 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.519 propos to basically like ha, ha, didn't get me, idiots. The 580 00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.960 mocking Jay is still alive. But Catinus goes outside and finds a bunch of 581 00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:42.679 white roses, and that brings to the realization that he's going to hurt Peta 582 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:47.199 if she keeps if she keeps doing the proposts, and that she stops wanting 583 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.679 to be the mocking Jay. And hey, Mitch comes out of hiding. 584 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:54.559 Well he's been out of hiding, but he comes to convince her to keep 585 00:55:54.559 --> 00:56:02.280 doing it, and he's like, they've also sent out the rescue mission. 586 00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:07.679 What we're gonna do is jammed their airways with something they can't block. And 587 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:14.280 that's when we get the Finnic I just call them the Phinic Revelations to the 588 00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:22.400 Capitol. Yeah, so we get like, basically, you know, a 589 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:27.920 kind of like zero Doc thirty like vision of them going through the training center 590 00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:36.440 where all the tributes are being held and they bring them back, and this 591 00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:40.159 is where we run into all the Peta stuff of him attacking her, and 592 00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:50.239 also Catnus starts basically calling out to President Snow and they have a conversation basically 593 00:56:52.840 --> 00:57:00.239 I literally just watched this and I can't remember remember what happened. Says I'm 594 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:04.119 not going to do this anymore. I want to step down, like let's 595 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.360 have a ceasefire. And President Snows says it's too late for that. I 596 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:15.000 know your friends are here, you really really, Oh my gosh, And 597 00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:20.840 he says to her, the things that we love are what will eventually kill 598 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:25.159 us. And then he says, remember that I said that. And the 599 00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:30.880 reason he said that is because Caddis just wanted Peter back, and then they've 600 00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:36.159 programmed Peta to kill her. Yeah, and you know he's look, I 601 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:45.239 love is a little on the nose, wouldn't you say? Yeah, And 602 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:49.800 we've got to mention that the three says, I love Poison. Yeah. 603 00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:57.039 The three they get out is Peter, Johanna, and Annie, Annie and 604 00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:06.119 Finnick have a beautiful reunion. Frank starts crying. Johanna is gaunt and bald. 605 00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:12.800 Yeah she is. I'm assuming they did all this to break her spirit, 606 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.440 and my god, she just can't be broken, you know. But 607 00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:20.880 like when you've been through what she's been through, usually like you're driven by 608 00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:28.400 revenge, and that's you know. We end the movie with basically Coin saying 609 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:31.119 like Coin is he is starting to listen to Plutark because the Plutark and her 610 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:37.280 had a conversation where he's like, hey, maybe not just give facts, 611 00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:45.039 but maybe try and inspire the people, and you know, yeah, and 612 00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:51.519 like we we see Plutarch and Effie Trinket like staying together and Plutarch's mouthing the 613 00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.119 lines along with President Coin and I ship it. Yeah I should. I 614 00:58:55.119 --> 00:59:07.719 should Plutark and Effie like you know, trade Trader cut og so cleotogratry here, 615 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:12.840 right, I think so? I mean, And it's very sad because 616 00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:17.800 the movie is dedicated to Phillip Seymour Hoffmann. I believe he passed before this 617 00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:22.280 one was released. Yeah, he he makes an appearance at cg I'm the 618 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:30.960 next One, which sucks fucking but you know, and basically technology just because 619 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:36.480 we can does not mean we should. Yeah I did. I did not 620 00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:40.280 need to see a c g I Carrie Fisher at the end of Rogue one, 621 00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:50.719 so or the c g I Hilo Remas at the end of the last 622 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:57.519 Ghostbusters movie. That was really strange. By the time that happened, I 623 00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:01.760 was like, guys, what the fuck, It's just who is this for? 624 01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:13.000 Remis not remus? Excuse me, Like it's just like that movie was 625 01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:17.960 made to begin with, and that whole end scene just really bogs it down. 626 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.360 If somebody has passed away, just let them be. Don't put CGI 627 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:28.440 people in your movies. Say it really comes down to a question to consent. 628 01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:34.079 They cannot consent because they're not here anymore. Oh and they did the 629 01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:39.360 same thing with Christopher Reeves in the Flash, like come on, you you 630 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:45.039 had Nicholas Cage doing the Kevin Smith spider fight, Like that's fine, Like 631 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.400 I'm cool with that because Kevin Smith or because Nicholas Cage is alive, but 632 01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:53.800 like, ugh, just like poor Chris and I get it. Christopher Reeves 633 01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:59.119 was you know, one of the best Superman Superman out there, but just 634 01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:07.719 let him be Yeah it just but yeah, Like I was this the start 635 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:12.079 of it? Like do you remember them putting CGI people in other things before 636 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:17.079 they did to Philip sy Moorehelfman. I mean this, When this happened, 637 01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:23.840 it was a very very big deal. I think that movie studios were sort 638 01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:30.559 of like, well, how I feel like And this is completely just my 639 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:36.159 own opinion. I am not basing this on any sort of like fact, 640 01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:43.000 but I believe that movie studios have started to realize that we as the viewer, 641 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:51.159 are not complete idiots, and that it is preferable to just write a 642 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:55.880 character out or not have them present, rather than do bullshit like this. 643 01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:01.760 Because I can tell you it's someone who sees a ton of movies. I've 644 01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:07.960 never been like, I am so glad that you reanimated this person who has 645 01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:14.880 passed never in my life. And I think that the newest Ghostbusters really suffered 646 01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:20.840 for that, because I was like, this clearly is not to engage a 647 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.760 new generation into the Ghostbusters, because this would it would just be fun. 648 01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:32.440 This Ghostbusters is like very much like a middle age sort of like I'm reflecting 649 01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:37.039 on my life, What does it all mean? And it's a fucking bummer, 650 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:45.119 which is not what Ghostbusters is supposed to be. Yeah, Ghostbusters is 651 01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:47.440 about ghost performing sexual acts on you. That's what those movies are about. 652 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:51.360 Oh god, yeah, it happened in like the first one, Like what 653 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:53.599 the hell? Yeah, it happened to the first one and it's not it's 654 01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:57.360 I mean, it was the eighties. Everything was terrible. But yeah, 655 01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:01.280 but at the same time, it's like, which, just why, like 656 01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:08.760 Black except for like nostalgic weirdos who are like, I'm questioning everything, what 657 01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:13.760 does it all mean? Like Black, Black, Panther, Wakanda Forever did 658 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:20.440 it correctly in that like they they head you know, T'Challa dying off screen 659 01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:25.119 while Shiry is down in her lab desperately trying to save him, and like 660 01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:30.400 so you get that that's a double edged sword in that, like she wasn't 661 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.800 there when her brother passed because she was trying to save him. So that 662 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:39.159 I have that gives pathos to the character and you know, like helps her 663 01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:44.960 on her journey or starts her on her journey of both grieving morning and finally 664 01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:51.440 acceptance. You know, like they did do it, and they did it 665 01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:54.559 much worse in the second Independence Day movie, which why did that even exist? 666 01:03:55.280 --> 01:04:00.639 Where they're just like Will Smith's character. Will Smith's character died off screen 667 01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:03.960 in a jet flight, like in a test flight accident. I'm like, 668 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:09.039 really, that's what you that's what we're going with, Okay, fine, 669 01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:13.360 And it was definitely not that this actor just did not want to be in 670 01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:16.199 this movie. Here's the other part. They did not need to kill Will 671 01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:23.119 Smith off at all, Like he could just be retired. I think people 672 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:28.039 retire from the military like in their forties, just retire the character. That's 673 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.360 what the Festive Furies did. Like like Joanna Brewster in the most recent one, 674 01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:34.079 she gets attacked, she fights off, like the dudes are attacking her 675 01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:38.079 with John Cena, and then she's like, I gotta go go make sure 676 01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:40.679 Brian's okay and just leaves the movie. I'm like, yeah, good, 677 01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:43.960 that's fine. Brian's just out there just hanging out, hiding from the law 678 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:48.840 that he portrayed. But can't you know, and then like and the worst 679 01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:54.360 thing about ID four to two is that they pitch a much better movie in 680 01:04:54.400 --> 01:05:00.199 their movie because you know, basically, like part of the what happened in 681 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.639 between the two movies is that these giant spaceships crash landed where they were shot 682 01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:12.519 down, and then like the aliens came pouring out of them, so then 683 01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:16.960 it became like a ground war. And this guy they talk about this like 684 01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:24.719 Africa, like they're in Africa and like Jeff Goldblum's talking to these soldiers and 685 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.480 they're like, yeah, they came into the jungle. Nobody helped us. 686 01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.880 We had to fight them, like you know, machete to alien. And 687 01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.920 I'm like, that is such a cooler movie than this. Show me gorilla 688 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.679 fighting, getst aliens in the jungle, Like that's your that's the movie, 689 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:44.079 not this, Like oh they showed up and we're basically just doing the same 690 01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:47.880 movie again, like yeah, oh there's a bigger spaceship. I'm like, 691 01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:54.639 oh, as like who cares? Give me Predator Guerrilla Warfare, Like give 692 01:05:54.679 --> 01:06:00.800 me like much better movie than they completely botched because you know, we can't 693 01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:02.840 tell we can't tell interesting stories about people of color. Oh wait, we 694 01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:08.679 can't. It's been done a whole lot. Fucking I haven't watched that. 695 01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:15.480 They made a Predator movie called Prey where it's like this Native American woman from 696 01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:20.559 like you know before I think colonization is just fighting a predator, and I 697 01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:28.199 heard it rules that's awesome. I mean I saw what was that last one 698 01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:33.039 that came out and then dudes were like accused of not great stuff on the 699 01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:39.559 set. I don't you're gonna really to narrow it down. So it was 700 01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:45.800 like a predator or alien movie. I don't know, there's like Alien. 701 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:51.480 This is pre COVID. It doesn't matter. That one was also bad, 702 01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:58.000 but there was Predators, which had a good concept where it's just like a 703 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:02.719 bunch of dangerous people. Covenant Alien Covenant. That one was not good, 704 01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:09.360 like just from the trailer, like like there's only couples on this spaceship. 705 01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:13.760 I'm like good people who will do what they can to make sure one person 706 01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:19.599 stays alive. Oh yeah, it was totally was this one? Is this 707 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:31.119 the one? Oh gosh, I'm on thing. Let's try controversy, mh. 708 01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:36.519 But yeah, there's another movie that they totally pitched a better movie than 709 01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:44.159 that movie, and I can't remember it. Maybe it wasn't this one, 710 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:50.559 but yeah, it doesn't matter. But okay, so next week we will 711 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:57.360 be doing the last of the Hunger Game series and then we will be moving 712 01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:01.039 into Oh, we got two more movies. We have Mocking J Part two 713 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:09.719 and then we have the Ballad of Snakes and Songbirds. Oh right, okay, 714 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:14.159 you know, yes, well how about this? How about we next 715 01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:17.720 week we're gonna do the Ballad of Snakes and Songbirds and then after that we'll 716 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:21.920 do Mocking J Part two. Yes, because it will not affect Mocking J 717 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:28.439 Part two. Yeah. Well, then we can then look for references in 718 01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:31.640 mocking better informed about why presidents Know is the worst person ever? Yeah, 719 01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:35.560 because I do know. Apparently like in Mocking JA Part two they go to 720 01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:41.760 like President Snow's cousin's house. So yeah, but we'll be up well, 721 01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:48.359 we'll do a deep dive into the Santa mindset. But what the Santa mindset? 722 01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:53.279 Oh damn it, it's breaking up on my side. Okay, we're 723 01:08:53.319 --> 01:09:00.000 gonna close up this episode before zoom fails us again. If you'd like Frank, 724 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:03.239 can you hear me? Yes? Okay great. If you'd like to 725 01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:05.840 write us, you can write us at Real teen Girl Talk at gmail dot 726 01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:10.800 com. We have a Facebook group and page, the Frank Moderates. If 727 01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:14.439 you'd like to review the show, we would love that. Five stars please 728 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:20.680 and until next week. I am Susie Cota, I'm Fan Kankota. Are 729 01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:29.960 you are you coming to the tree? They strong up the man, They 730 01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:35.399 say, hum murder. Three strange things that happen here? No stranger it 731 01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:42.439 be? If I'm mad, ad men, not in the hanging tree? 732 01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:51.159 Are you are you come in to the tree? Were damn man Cadel four 733 01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:59.479 is love to flee? Strange things did happen here? No stranger it be? 734 01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:04.760 If we I mean, not in the hanging tree? Are you? 735 01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:14.920 Are you coming to the tree? Were told jud Un so we both be 736 01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:19.560 free. Strange things did happen here? In a stranger would be