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nails and welcome to Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and we have
dragged Jesse back into the studio. Haven't seen it in a while. How
you been a great thrilled to be back. Thank you. We tell the
audience, I'm Jesse Manackham. I'm the executive director and CEO of Mass Golf.
Okay, how many weeks it take for my producer to get you back
in here? We did some negotiating. Okay, that's a good thing.
Welcome back, Welcome back, Jesse. Sure, And I asked obviously for
mister Chad stump Out to be back in here since golf is not anything that
I should know everything about golf, right since my kids were playing it.
It's a passion project for him. It's passion for him. But again it's
not been cheap and never sending him to IMG Academy, right, So somebody's
got to actually go to work to make the money to have done all this
right, and then I could be honest chasing that ball around for like eight
hours. I don't know how you guys do that, Like I could get
a lot. So it's all mental And back to the MGA and all the
amazing things they've done. What efforts are being made to attract and retain younger
generations of golfers a mass. Yeah, I think it's you know, how
can the game game be welcoming, inclusive, fun? You know mentioned programs
earlier, first T Youth on course, you've got drive, chip and putt.
You know, an initiative from the Masters, the USGA PG of America
where any kid can sign up in a fun competition have the chance to play
in the national finals. That a gust the national right, how good is
that get On top of that, the PGA of America has a program called
PGA Junior League, So it's basically like Little League Baseball for golf, where
you've got some team competitions. They play in a fun, relaxed environment,
travel around and I think it's a clever way to get kids engaged and enjoy
the game together. On top of that, you know some off course activities
that have been successful on ramps for the game. And we talked previously about
top golf, drive shack. You've got you know, new technology and fused
mini golf venues. Right to me, anytime you get a club in someone's
hand, in a kid's hand, it's it's going to be impressionable, right,
and it's an opportunity to get them to become an offer for life.
Yep. So you guys do all like the physical stuff, teaching and all
that. Now let's talk about the really important side of the game, the
biggest six inches between the Do you guys do any work with mental mental side
of golf as an organization, we don't. You know, it's not stacked
into one of our services, but there's many groups out there that do you
know, sports psychology is becoming a very big industry. You know, you've
got organizations out there like core Golf and NATICK. You know Bill mcinernie involved
as a as a coach, a teacher, ian highfield. I mean,
this is an important part of the game that's going to allow kids to be
successful playing, you know, at the highest level potentially yep. And now
how with this also the technology in these kids? How's a game? In
my opinion of courses are huge. The game is way more powerful than it's
ever been. Do you think it's just the working out from the new generation
or do you think these clubs are well corked up? Am I? In
my words, I think it's a combination of things. I mean, the
clubs I grew up playing on are nowhere near you know what, kids have
available these days, right, So I think you've got to You've got to
give a tip to the cap, to the technology, but also the way
kids are working at it and kind of being instructed. You're you're seeing a
lot more athleticism. For one, I think you're you're seeing you you talk
about, you know, between the ears, right, some of these kids
I see they're just fearless out there, right, They'll grip it and rip
it. They don't care how hard or how fast they're swinging. They want
the ball to go far. And that's the advantage that they're they're helping them.
That's the old school way of teaching right there. In some respects.
Yeah, you can't teach it. I twitch muscles at certain age. You
got to grow up doing that. But also, where do you see this
golf welb going with all this technology getting more head ball far, these courses
getting longer. What do you see any stop to this? I don't know.
I see technology just just being a major component to the advancement of the
game. You know, whether that's for sustainability efforts right off course itself,
you know, managing the game operationally, but you know, for swing,
for mechanics, for coaching, it's here to stay. You know, the
track man systems of the world, right, You're getting instantaneous data. That's
what That's what people want in this world, in this in this day and
age, right, And if that's going to help you, if that's going
to help you advance in your career, no matter where that that may take
you. I think it's going to show coaches, you know that you've got
more than just a scoring record right from your competitive events. You know you
can dial into the data of you know, your your up and down green
and regulation. You know, you can really get hyper focused. Yeah.
And so are any upcoming projects or initiatives that the MASK Associations are excited about.
I would say, you know, really just collaboration with some of our
affiliate organizations. We work very closely with the new ingle PGA US Challenge cup.
I mentioned on the last show the US Development Program, and I think
that's something we are really excited about. It's it's a new endeavor. Uh,
it's going to create a whole new platform for junior golfers. So we're
excited for year one to see where that that goes and hopefully it it can
morph into something pretty big. And substantial for the state in your opinion.
You know you've been around golf your whole life. Where do you want to
see the golf world in Massachusetts go? I would love to see, you
know, the sustainability of the game for one, right, keeping people in
the game no matter at what stage in their career or life they're in.
You know, if they have the ability to be competitive, great, If
it's more of a recreational sport for them, nothing wrong with that, right,
So how can we make sure for anyone interested in golf there's an outlet,
there's an opportunity, there's a way for that to fit into their daily
activity, right. I think we're starting to see the game become more relevant.
We're seeing laps golfers come back into the game. We're seeing a lot
of new golfers, golfers of you know, different diversity, a lot more
women playing the game than ever before. So, you know, I keep
saying that it's it's become relevant of it again. I think you know that's
because you can you can make it what you want of it. Right,
If it's an hour of practice and so fashion, you know, you don't
have to play that traditional eighteen hole round anymore. You can play nine,
you can play six holes. You know, a lot of facilities have a
different, unique type of loop. You know, that'll get you started,
get you back to the clubhouse in the car, and you can get home
and make dinner. Stupid right there. But so, you know, playing
golf in Florida and all around the world, you know, playing the European
Tour, I see as diverse. It's very diverse out there, which is
amazing. How is the diversity in golf in Massachusetts. It's improving, and
you know, we're we're making some strides in that effort. We want to
make sure our community is as diverse as it possibly can be. You know,
if that's increasing, you know, first t programming in different parts pockets
of the state, if it's increasing our ability to offer affordable access to kids
through youth on course, we want to be champions of that. We want
to work with facilities, with leadership around the state, with our affiliate organizations
as well. There's more that can be done. I think we're just scratching
the surface there. So something we're excited about. I love it. And
for the golf world, you know, everyone thinks about golf, as you
know, it is prima donnas sport and all that. What are the misconceptions
are golf in your opinion, Well, I think you kind of hit the
nail on the head. There are even well it's changed a lot, I
mean, even from you know, I think the old, old traditions and
such are starting to kind of morph into you know, the culture of where
we are in twenty twenty four. You're seeing golf clothing look a lot different
than I never did. You're seeing people engage in the game in a much
different way. You know, you've got music out on the golf course and
some some capacities. You know, that's not everyone's cup of tea, but
you know there's some acceptance to that. You're seeing hoodies at the golf course,
right, Yeah, So you know, little things like that I think,
you know, are starting to get people more comfortable. Yeah, change
attract a different audience. So it's not also uptight. They are a little
more loose out there, welcome. But I do think there's a balance there,
right, because you're you're bringing a lot of new people into the game.
They may not be as educated with with etiquette and ways to treat the
golf course. Things of that. Nature pace of play. Right, So
somehow, you know, I think we have an obligation, along with other
industry representatives, to make sure that we strike that balance and we continue to
educate all that air playing the game. Okay, hold that thought. We're
going to break sponsored by Floor and Decor, National Lumber, and Village Bang.
You know. Welcome back to Tough Nails on WBC News Radio ten Thory
and I'm Citney Stumpo, and I'm here with Angelina, and I'm here with
and Jesse. I just may good question. I'm coming out of the last
time I settle the dumb questions. I'm going back to dumb Okay, we're
making the turn. We're making the turn. Yeah, I need I need
some I need. Like all you people do is talk about golf. I
know it's a golf show, but I'm like, okay, golf, golf.
I listen, truthfully, you've been golfing your whole pretty much your whole
life. So like you got married, you had children, and we're still
playing Sage and Sunday's Golf. No oh, you were right, So it
happened. What happened is we had we have several obligations and activities that are
fun to be a part of. Right, I wouldn't be in politically correct
yet. Well, but given seriousness, right, I mean, given the
opportunity. Yeah. Like, I know when I was married, if if
joking' golf that six days or golf five days and he wanted to golf,
he'd pouts. So I'd be like, just go golf then, because it
was worth it for you to go golf. Come back six hours later,
and then you're not pouting anymore. Do you know what I'm saying? I
do, I do, I go so there many times have you pouted with
your wife like you really want to go golf and not do what she really
wanted to do. I'm without causing it, right, I'm around golf.
It's my job, it's my life. It's a passion, et cetera.
You know, married eleven years, streak, he's being politically quirk to save
his marriage right now. I don't know. I think Stephanie appreciates and understands.
Okay, well, Stephanie, if you say to Stephanie like out of
nowhere, you know, I really just want to go play eighteen holes and
nine holes. We'll make it work. We'll figure it out. We'll figure
it out so there's no ball break in like nose times, there can be
sure. Yeah, but I pick my spots. How about that? Okay,
that's a good thing. Yeah. So when do you believe that golfers
to get to the next level have to be the most selfish people at some
point until I get there. I think there's an argument for that. But
for any sport or any high level profession, there's got to be some some
self serving selfishness. The one thing I noticed with all my professional athletes,
and god knows, in thirty six years, I've had many many, many
come through Boston, whether they've been Bruins players, Soult's players, Red Sox
players, not a lot of football players because they go out further out.
I've noticed one thing in Calm with all the wives, they are behind those
men, and a lot met to college. It seems like they prepare with
the right meals, the right food right, and then when those men get
to a higher level and they're making massive contracts, I see the chefs come
in, but I see the women doing all the heavy lifting at home,
the kids. This the that I had a player get traded, they lived
in Brookline and didn't even know he's going to get traded and boom, she's
got to send his He just goes right from the locker room and goes right
to his next place, is going the next state, and the wife organizes
his clothes to get to the next state. It's a tough job on the
wives, no doubt. And it's it's to me. It's about the support
system, right, So let's talk about let's think about the window of opportunity
for any elite athlete, right, that might be from eighteen to twenty eight.
There you go, eighteen to twenty eight. You've got to capitalize in
ten years time, right, So you're going to need that support system to
take care of those odds and ends, right and build a team that that's
going to allow you to put your energy and focus in the training and the
well being and the and the health the psychology that we talked about earlier.
It's more than a full time job. You know, you're committing yourself to
be at that level to capitalize on the return on investment. Right. Do
you notice that golfers need more mental condition than others because it's just them,
it's the ball. Yeah, I guess I would. I would respond in
the club, yes, because it's also an individualized sport, correct, Yeah,
and you have nobody but you right now. You got tennis like that,
you have golf that's like and like Chad always says that, I know
you've talked about it before. The ball out of eighteen holes is only in
the year for how long? Three and a half minutes something like that,
what is it? Three and a half minutes and you're only hitting what seventy
shots? That's it. So you do a lot of walking, So you're
doing car. He took a lot of walking and thinking. That's right.
And when you're in a golfer's head when they're walking from the next hole,
right, this is what I would say. Knowing certain astrology signs. Germany
Is are probably I gotta look this up. How many pro golfers are Geminis
because they can look in the front windshield against the cancer of the virgo that's
always in the rear view mirror. I know. It's one thing about Chad
through the years of playing, when that kid would shoot Birdie, he'd go
another Birdie, Bertie. If you shoot a bogy, go another bugy bogy
Right, let's go car look like circle, circle, circle, big boxes,
big boxes. So I start to say to his dad, don't you
see this is all his head out there? Like if he shoots one birdie
shots another bird, he shoots another birdie. If he shoots a bog,
he shoot a bogue, he shoots up because he's still in the rearview mirror.
It's toughness, right, How do you shake that mindset? How do
you get how do you you know, erase put in the rear view move
on to the next. But that's what you need to do. Yeah,
and you need the support system around you. We can't support him or any
other golfer when they're We can't even talk to our kids. If I took
my I remember he had long here. Remember we had here. Preparation is
I'm never prepared. If I'm not prepared, you should. I remember had
long here. And I went to give him my point heail holder, you
know, and the official came right over to me, like, what do
you think I'm giving him a point heal holder? Like the kid's fourteen years
old. You can't be out there. The only one that can be talking
to him is his caddy. And I think there in lies one of the
Chad's biggest problems. He was so loyal to his caddy and all the sponsors
and everybody on Chad's team and the European They want an older person on his
bag. Trust Yet No, not that, not that his caddy wasn't He
needs somebody that was stronger than him. Yeah, and that would have been
somebody that had ten years on him at that time, somebody. If Chad
was fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen, the guy in his bag had to
be twenty seven, nine thirty. There's nothing when I was just freshing caddy
dynamic, right, yep. I mean, but in Chad's best friend with
my brother oorsually you know, we're not thinking we're not friends anymore, but
he was. It was It was a comfort zone for me, That's what
it was. I didn't need someone to read my gramps from me or anything
like that because I could do all that. And everyone's different, right,
you might need that mentor type individual. Although Chad's loyalty okay, and Chad
said I'm not going to play another game of golf if you try to take
him off my back. That's loyalty federation. Other people just need someone to
distract them, right, maybe to laugh throughout the four hours. That's that's
what I like. It can make me laugh to my ball then about fifty
yards before my ball start got me, but yes, start get already on
the PGA. Those guys got caddies, that are what they're professional caddies,
right, that's their career, and their career is to do what what's a
professional caddies job to do? Really keep you in the game, guide coach,
you know, keep maybe focused, Yeah, give you the best information
at hand. Would you say at a young age, it's important once they
get to like sixteen, fifteen, sixteen seventeen, to have a good caddy
with them. Yeah, if that's your I'd say, once you get to
a certain level, yeah exactly. Okay, well okay, if you get
to that age of that better level, and keep in mind to there's certain
events. You know, college, you're carrying your own bag, correct,
there's no caddies in college. A lot of high school events, same thing.
You know, the local amateur scene we do allow caddies, but usually
it's it's a friend, it's a girlfriend, a spouse, whatever it might
be. I love. It was different for me because I was already playing
pro events at fifteen out in Florida. So that's why I had my caddyes,
because I like playing professional events then junior events where everyone's like, so,
what you would you make on this? Would you make on this?
Call for a check too? They just care about your money, That's it.
There was a couple of things I didn't like, and I don't know
if this is still going on. Chad would be on a computer before,
you know, before we went to bed or early in the morning, and
I'd be like, what are you looking at? And these older men and
other kids, Oh, child's going to take this tournament. Our child's going
to get wiped out. Stump was going to make this always going to get
killed. I'm like, why are you reading that stuff? Like does that
still go on? And why why were we doing that? We're talking like
social media? Yea, yeah, yeah, I think that's the local stuff.
Child, They were doing it, even the local stuff. They were
playing that game on. Yeah. When I came back and I started playing
like being on the European Door, I mean, yeah, it's going to
happen. They're going to talk well that I would say to him. It
was even younger I remember, and I'd say shut that down. Shut that
down. Don't look at It's not going to help you at all. It's
not going to motivate. I mean, there may be some people that that
it did. It used to feeling at a young age and stuff like that,
but you know, at a certain age, talent just doesn't keep going.
You know, I was that good? Is all talent? I was.
I put the work in a little bit, but that was just talent.
You know talent within a half an hour of watching it, And hold
that thought and I'll let you answer when you come back. My microration,
does you know talent when you see it right away? This is Cindy Stample
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And welcome back to Tops Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty And I'm in
the studio with who Angelina Chad Jesse. All right, let's go. Jesse.
My question as we were going off to break last time was do you
know talent from a mile away at this stage of the game, do you
know the kids that are talented? Yeah, I do. When I was
running our events more regularly, i'd be around it much more and I was
much more in tune. Now, I think just just being around the game
for almost twenty years, I think I can point that out. But I'm
no expert. I'm no teacher. I'm not a pizza professor. I get
that. But yeah, I think it's you could see. In most cases,
you can see. I gotta tell you, if I had a due
over for Chad, I would have never let them go to IMG Academy.
No. See, I got to disagree that. I know, no,
that that actually shaped me. That actually got me technically sound. Even though
I don't totally agree with the lead better swing, it got me technically sound.
If I had to do over. I'm sorry, I gotta say it,
I would have never had a girlfriend at eighteen. Okay, I just
made it on the European Tour. I just made a horrible decision. That's
where I should have been selfish. That's where I come back to what you
said, do you need to be selfish in this game? That's when I
should have chose to be selfish. Okay, your opinion that went Jesse because
you know what, a young guy, well, he can't really have an
opinion because it was my life. I chose him to do stupid things with
that. It's a little personal, right yeah. But most guys that age,
you're out of high school, you're doing stupid still, you know what
I mean, It's time to do stupid right stupid? Yeah I didn't.
So I was a goody two shoe and then that that world got introduced to
me. At that time. What were your what was your north star?
What were you hoping to achieve? You know it. I was on tour,
I was playing unbelievable, I was winning everything around. When I was
coming to Florida, I was just trying to just keep going. Yeah,
I try to get to number one right there, and uh yeah, girl
in my life, stop practicing, smoking weed, drinking, doing drugs,
doing stupid stuff. End up getting the yips on on Tori. Oh yeah
for a couple of years. If I had to redo, that's my reado
right there. I should have been selfish and just worried about Wow, I
made it. We just did this. I just finished low amateur. My
first European Tour event was that also a circumstance of getting comfortable with a different
part of the world, living in a different part of the world. That
was the whole kick that I would have just stayed. I would have stayed
adjustment. Well, now he lived there tomorrow, because now he's twenty nine,
and now you know, at twenty five, if I had the if
I have a game that I had a seventeen, when I played at twenty
five with that mindset twenty six, I would have moved there. But you
know what they say, that was a big demise a couple of years.
Got to get out of the rear view mirror, got to move forward.
I ripped it off. It's gone. You ripped off the beage. But
you can tell talent. Yeah, yeah, I'm not an expert again,
but you can see someone has a talent with a swing and all that.
But it's a lot different. You have to have a special kind of mind
to play this game. Now, if you have a talent of mind,
that's a big difference. Okay, I've got a question. How does the
Mass Golf Association address issues with accessibility and affordability within the sport. Yeah,
we're a community for any golfer, right, no matter age. Gender,
you know, diverse background. Anybody I talked I think in our last show
about the affordability piece in our youth program of youth on course where we're subsidizing
rounds of golf, so kids paying no more than five dollars per round.
That's that to us is something for the future, right We're building our future
golfers, our future members, breaking down a barrier of entry, if you
will. Also with First T, you know, if if any kid who
wants to participate in First T has any financial challenges, we're going to support
that. We're going to take care of that in some way, shape or
form. Accessibility. There's quite a few programs right now in this space,
some of which we support. We own and operate a par three golf course
in Norton where we have several groups that are taking advantage and enjoying the experience.
There's groups like Golf for All. The New England PGA has a branch
where they're offering accessible programs and such. So you know, you even look
at on the national level, the USGA just rolled out an adaptive Championship.
You know, this is an area that they've been working on for the past
five years. There's a lot to it to put on an adaptive event,
you know, from a logistics and operations standpoint. Okay, it goes to
my next question. Yeah, how important is a community engagement and outreach from
Massachusetts Golf Association. It's vital, It's absolutely vital. Yeah, I mean,
we want to be the outlet for any golfer no matter how you engage
in the game. If you're twelve years old, if you're seventy two years
old, if you're a fan of the game, if you're an elite compet
editor, we have an option in a way for you to engage in the
sport, and we want to grow that community. We want to support those
that want to participate. Is that what donuts? Certainly with donors corporations donating,
we do, We absolutely do. Unfortunately, balls are expensive, clubs
are expensive. It's not you know, buying a basketball and the basketball in
net, right, Golf's expensive exactly. Yeah, So like the companies that
you know, they get rid of this line of golf clubs, like we're
looking for a stupid golf club for chatity, how to have right on every
was your big brother, big you're talking nineties and five. We found it
like we weren't ever used. And then he got I get it, and
one was I didn't even screw it like I took it out. It was
a half a screw like before a tournament. But he got the new ones.
But before But when these companies and they just stop making a club,
but they still have hundreds and hundreds of thousands and thousands in the warehouse,
they do they give them away? Do they? Yeah? I think depending
on the organization, there's channels that they go through, you know, to
make sure that those clubs can get get utilized. For us, we've got
sets upon sets. We offer donations of clubs, you know, if people
have not you guys got sets and sets we do, and we put them
to use, you know, through these junior programs. And is that people
donating the clubs they buy new clubs exactly? Yeah? And balls balls to
an extent. Yeah, And what about like shoes golf shoes, I'd probably
put in that same category with balls. I mean, you can only use
shoes so much, right, so they wear out or you gotta change the
spikes. But you know, I was actually just thinking of questions, just
pop out them to my mind because I've been watching a lot of ESPN,
a lot of college sports, and in the golf world. So like you
know, there's female golf and it's become more open and females that common all.
Uh with all this, you know, gender change and everything. Do
you see yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Do you
see that playing in golf role? Yeah, I think it has. We've
seen it recently in college sports. Let me ask that question. Yeah.
So basically we'll take a trenchender man to a woman. He definitely has more
strength than a woman. Does. I have the same problem with swimming.
So this is me talking. Nobody takes any heat for what I have to
say. This is me, Cindy Stump for talking. Okay, you are
a man. You're swimming against women, when you're playing golf against women.
You are stronger than I am. You can take that ball off the teeth,
asset and how to than I can and longer. Right, But this
is the new world that we live in, right, So man, it
can be girls anything else. It's really and it's going to open up to
the golf community too. It's about access and opportunity. Yeah, That's why
I was ask where are we seeing I'm just going to be very much careful
on the delivery in that one. I think what you said is fair.
There's organizations and policies in place too, but a lot of people in the
and the swimming community does not think it's fair. There are absolutely two camps,
okay, And what is the consensus on the golf community. And again,
not holding anything you say for your company, I'm just asking you a
personal opinion because I haven't been haven't been paying attention to the swimming community.
I have for some reason basting. Is it a problem? Yeah? Broadcast
but out there okay, So I shall ask you. That's why I was
asking, because I'm not I haven't been in the golf well in a couple
of years, and I see all this going on. I go for the
people listeners out there, like is are they accepting? They do? They
have certain things for it, Like what's going on? Do we see it?
I think even you know, just recently there was a women's golf tour
I want to say out in Arizona that reverse their posture on a trans player
where they're no longer allowing them to anticipate where they did previously. But there
are organizations that that do permit it. You know, you've got to go
through the proper protocols and channels and transitional times, you know, and that's
something that we are currently working on right now. Right How are we going
to support a trans athlete, you know, to participate in our events?
You know, in a lot of ways, we are aligned with the USGA,
you know, because a competitor could be playing in a mass golf event
or USJA qualifier in Massachusetts that could get them on the national scene at a
USGA event. So in all likelihood we'll do a weekend to follow their policy
or procedure. But it's a challenging thing to overcome, and I think at
the end of the day, we want to be inclusive and provide an opportunity
for golfers to compete. I think that's that was the most correct dance I've
ever heard out of everybody's mouth. I think we handled it just perfectly.
Fine, Okay, we're going to break on that one. All right.
This is Cindy Stumbling listening Toughest Nails in WBZ News Radio attempt. He will
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with Angelina, Chad Jesse Minochem start again. Which last name? Angelina Gorilla
going into stump? Oh, okay, Chad, And what does she do?
I need a ring first, future wife, that's what you say.
Yeah, and you need a ring, you golf widow. Yeah, he
does have a beautiful girlf and we got to give it, right, she's
more beautiful on the inside. Schauscer, Okay, she is. I actually
like that. So that's a good thing. Right, that's a good thing
coming from me. One time I found someone has morals and it's a good
person. Well say that's morals values, old school sponsored with liable, dependable.
That's all the stuff that everybody needs to make the next generation healthy kids
and what you're raising because you're raising like I don't even know what these kids
can turn out to be. But anyways, they might be playing golf on
the moon. I don't know. They might never leave the house. They'll
play the video games on the golf. But anyway, back to golf.
Okay, Jesse, here's what I want to know. I want to know
all the events that are coming up. What do you got coming up?
Talk do you think and let the lissas know and understand if the kids want
to participate, how they get involved. Blah blah blah. Yeah. So
the beauty of mass Golf is we've got an event for everybody. You know,
whether you're an elite competitor playing in a state championship or you just want
to play in a casual tournament type setting. So you know, from Chad's
perspective, we've got the state championship level of play from the Mass Open to
the Mass Amateur and Midam to the Women's Amateur, where you'll see top collegiate
players, mid am players, and seniors competing. We have tournaments, we
have mixed events, we have our Member Days, which allows for access for
any member of mass Golf to enjoy an experience at a public facility within the
state. And then we've got junior competition, so our Junior Amateur Championship,
Girls Junior, our young golfers thirteen and under. So, like I said,
any age, any type of competition, we've got it. I do
want to touch though. We've got a couple of high profile events coming to
Massachusetts very fortunate the last couple of years. Yeah, well the first one
here is the LPGA Tour. They are coming back after about a thirty year
hiatus. They'll be playing over Labor Day weekend at TPC Boston for the FM
Global Cha. Last time we the here, wasn't it the Welchers or something
like that over Hill Hell yeah's right, Yeah, that's right. So really
exciting to have that back in play. There's a lot of support in around
Boston within the community. You know, our office is in that backyard,
so we're doing a lot to support them and excited for what that stage and
platform can offer. You know, we've got the likes of Megan Kang,
you know, one of our own who grew up in Massachusetts, playing on
the LPGA Tour. She won her first event I think about a year ago
up in Canada, so we'll be rooting her on, but that'll be special.
And then we've been on a little bit of a sequence with the USGA.
You know, we had the US Open just a couple of years ago
at Brookline. We had the US Senior Amateur at Catansit. We had the
US Midamateur over on Nantucket at Sancity Head. This coming year, Brayburn is
hosting the US Women's Mid Am Championship, so that's right, this is one
of two championships that the club's hosting. Then in twenty twenty eight they're going
to host the US Women's Amateur Championship. So really the best females from around
the country, around the world. We'll be writing Newton Center, Newton Corner.
So really, you know, two staples in the women's calendar and to
look forward to in twenty twenty four. And Megan, good luck out there.
I wish you all the best. Love to see another mass resident,
no doubt, okay again? And what about parents that their kids are just
starting how can they get into these events if they don't know how to do
it as a participant. Through our website maskolf dot org also first tmass dot
dot com, we have first t programming, youth on course accessibility programming.
I would also encourage you know those for looking for more competition in the junior
space. The US Challenge Cup, the New England PGA, they have two
very strong junior tours yep. And I grew up with the folks out there.
I grew up playing those and there's a strong competition run by great people
and honestly it's just unbelievable terms all around. I had a blast playing them
and they shaped me to where I got my career from. What ages did
you feel that from twelve eleven, twelve to seventeen to sixteen, right before
I went to Europe? And what was the hottest year is with you playing?
When did you feel the competition getting heavier? Oh? When I went
to IMG fourteen, Yeah, fourteen to fifteen, I went down South,
so I saw the top of the top golfers. I was the top of
top down South. But I went to the number one sports school. I
went to No. One sports school in the world. I went to IMG
and then I went to Gary Golchrist and so I saw some of the best
I had Jesus Roots Patrick went there in my place. I saw Peter u
Line at IMG. Do you believe how many clients send their kids to IMG
lot They've had a heck of an operation and yeah, I mean, and
the place looks completely different than when Mike Kid went to school. Theather it's
changed so much in ten years. But like Morgan Hoffman went to Gary Goo
Christ. Yeah, what you're feeling on that just as. Okay, this
has nothing to do with with with masks. If your son was a golf
and said I want to go to IMG one of those, you know,
would you send him if that's the path that you know he or our daughter
would be looking for. You know, I don't know enough about them right
as a as a dad, right if that's the right platform for them.
But if they're you know, hard and fast on pursuing a career at the
highest level of golf, you know I would want to do as much as
I can to support that. Okay, even if you here's my take on
golf. As again, it's only my opinion. I think golf is a
game like any other sport, but especially golf. You don't have to become
a PGA player to always be able to make a living with golf. And
let me explain to you why Check could go. He could be a teacher.
He could be teaching, he could be one a pro shop. You
could own a pro shop. There's many other avenues, but the big one
for me is I literally could send him out five days a week playing with
my clients, tournaments, sending how much for Chad can Chad teach me?
My clients would keep pulling him in every country club event so they could win
the fourth son right and be the big shots on the on the There's a
lot of ways to the game here, but here here's the big one.
For any business, there's more deals made on a golf course than anywhere else
in any boardroom in this country. Okay, you get out there and you
play golf and you have that scotch, you're lighting that cigara, you're not
overdoing the drinking, and you're playing on the attention to that office. No,
you cannot know. You cannot. So my point is just because your
daughter or your son doesn't become the next PGA, you know phenom it is
for business. It's a great tool. So I'm always telling Chad, okay,
need you go pay play for Village Bank? And I need you.
And he shoots a hole in one and my president of my bank is going
jumping up and down because he had never saw anybody shoot a hole in one.
There's Chad, right, and he was like going crazy, calling me
like you sound your shirt whole one. But again, golf also I think
makes a man out of a of a boy and makes a woman out of
a girl. But more for the boys because they have to learn responsibility and
they and the one thing about golf is very It's a very respectful, right,
That's where I was going. It's a very It's a gentleman sport.
It has always been a gentleman sport and it probably will stay a gentleman sport.
Right. There's no throwing your baseball bat like Chad would do. Right
when you play baseball, well, and think about it too, right,
you're taking it helmet off and throwing it, calling a penalty on yourself if
you do that, you know. So. I just think that golf.
I think that it's the honor system. I think golf brings a core that
some of the sports just don't bring. And I don't think it could hurt
your child being out there in for eight hours out there golfing and doing something
constructive and doing stupid stuff. It's a lifetime. It adds so much.
It brings so much to the table. I know absolutely how to hold myself
accountable. I don't know about the cod pop. I'll give you the accountable
pot was still learning. But what it did give him was he knew how
to shake a man's hand at twelve years old and look him in the eye.
He knew how to be with older people from golf and sit down the
country club in the clubhouse with his dad and carry himself with me and and
thank you and please and all the things that I would have taught him at
home, because I'd be like, go get the life. No. I
came home from a IMG said, y'all, thank you, sir, ma'am.
She's like, who's this kid? Lee, I'm like, please,
thank you. Who's he? But anyways, we're going to break I'm Sidney
Stumpley. He listen the Toughest Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty and
We'll be right back. Don't cold. I'm on Gemma got out up and
I'm Sinny stumping You. Listen the Toughest Nails on w BZ News Radio ten
thirty. Jesse, how do people leat you? Well, let me first
off just say thanks, it's great to be with team Stumpo here. Love
it with Chad and Cindy. Obviously mask golf, you know we are we
are the community within Massachusetts to engage with the game, to be part of
the sport, and and to enjoy the sport. However that you know fits
into your lifestyle. So our website massolf dot org. Check us out,
become a member. Make today a golf day. That's our phrase, right,
So whatever that means, if it's an hour of practice, it's nine
whole rounds or going out with you know, a couple of generations and enjoying
yourself in what we have to offer here in the Commonwealth. And congratulations.
Let me shake your hand on your new position. You deserve the money,
can't. I gotta go out. We have a great, safe week and
everybody, we'll see you next weekend. This is Cindy Stumbo Top his Nails
on WBZ News Radio ten thirty