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Welcome to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland
Guardians Radio Network. Guardians Weekly is brought

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everyone, welcome to Guardian's Weekly.
Him rosen House along with you from Goodyear,

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Arizona and Guardians Spring Training. Great
to have you with us for baseball

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talk on the radio. We will
have baseball on the radio if you're listening

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to this on Saturday. We'll have
our next broadcast tomorrow when the Guardians take

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on the Cincinnati Reds right here in
Goodyear, but coming up a little bit

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later on on this week's show.
We had a great chance to spend a

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fair amount of time with pitching coach
Carl Willis earlier this week and talk to

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him not only about the pitching staff
and how it's coming together this spring,

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but also his return to the dugout, as it was not a given that

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he would continue as Guardians pitching coach
after the retirement of Terry Francona at the

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end of last season, but Carl, after it was all said and done,

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decided to return. He had that
option, and certainly the Guardian's glad

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to have him so we'll hear from
Carl in the second half of our show

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coming up a little bit later on. In the first half of our show,

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we will replay an interview during our
game broadcast on Thursday between Hammy and

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also general manager Mike Chernoff, as
the Guardians had a lot of news during

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the day on Thursday on the injury
front, so we'll hear from Tom and

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Cherney on that in just a little
bit. But first we had a chance

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to visit with Miles Straw earlier this
week. He's back in the lineup after

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a long battle with a virus that's
been going around the ball club and he

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had it probably worse than anybody,
but he's back in there looking to pick

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things up offensively this season. It's
been a couple of years where it's been

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a challenge offensively for Straw, who
swum the bat really well when he was

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first acquired via trade from the Houston
Astros a couple of years back, just

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hasn't been able to duplicate that in
the past two seasons. So what did

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he do. He went to work
this offseason to try and find it.

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A couple of different ways to do
that, and when we talked to him.

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He filled us in on how he
went about it to try and get

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better offensively this season. Yeah,
you know kind of you know, had

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my end of the year meeting with
the front office and hitting coaches, and

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you know, got early on with
Val up in Columbus where he's from.

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So we got to go to Ohio
State University to hit for a couple of

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days and just kind of come up
with a plan for the off season what

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I should work on and stuff to
you know, just follow up throughout the

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whole off season. So Val did
a really good job of put me in

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a good place where I feel like, uh, you know, I made

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a pretty good adjustment, you know
to look forward to the next season,

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and you know, sure enough just
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that same you know, adjustment and
feeling good about it in spring. So

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your off season home is in Florida. Tell us about that visit though,

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you and your family that you came
up and spend some time in his house,

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Chris Palake's house. Yeah, I
know, it was. It was

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awesome to go up there and just
see his you know, he's got a

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young daughter now. Just to see
their family was great. Got to hang

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out a little bit, and yeah, it's always nice to spend time,

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you know, with people here around
all the time. So you know,

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it was nice to you know to
have that facility up there. You know,

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it was freezing at the time obviously, so uh we got to go

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inside the cages at Ohio State and
kind of work a little bit, and

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uh, you know, like I
said, it's just it's a good adjustment

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I feel like was made and uh, you know, looking forward to keep

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keep that going. Spring training is
uh, it's a great time of year,

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but everyone gets together and you see
teammates and things like that. You

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had to miss a little time because
of an illness that's going through the clubhouse.

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What is that like when you're at
spring training and they say, hey,

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you gotta go home today. Yeah, it's a pretty helpless feeling.

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You know. I tried to look
at it in a positive way to kind

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of rest my body for a few
days, but uh, you know,

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kind of with what I was dealing
with, wasn't really allowing me to feel

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like it was really resting. And
it was pretty boring. I mean,

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you sent in an apartment for like
five six or whatever about a day is

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it just it gets old? And
you start walking around the neighborhood, which

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at the time I could barely even
walk, so it's like, couldn't do

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really a whole lot. So I
I was pretty miserable at the time.

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So you know, honestly, I
feel like, you know, spring training

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can get kind of you know,
the days rolling to another you know,

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you feel fatigued and stuff. So
I feel like just coming back from that

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just put me in a good spot
mentally and physically. So you know,

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obviously still kind of battling through some
things on the on the body, but

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uh, I like where I'm at
right now. You know, I'm excited

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to be here every single day,
and you know, I'm out there running

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sprints, smiling and stuff just to
feels good to be back. And you

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don't realize how much you really miss
the game until you're not around it for

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a few days. And you're part
of a core here that that had some

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real good success in twenty twenty two, and there's still a lot of those

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players still here. What are you
seeing that that has you excited as you

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as you get deeper into spring training
here for the season to come. Oh

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yeah, I mean you said it. I mean we got this a lot

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of the boys coming back. We
know, you know, we got the

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same mindset. We know how to
play with each other, we know who

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you know, who does what well. And it's a great group here.

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Man. I love everybody here and
I feel like everyone feels the same.

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So I mean, it's just fun
to show to work every day with these

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guys and to compete, and that's
all you can really ask for. I

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mean, there's not a lot of
there's not any problems in the clubhouse,

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so it's a very fun atmosphere and
it's something somewhere you know, you look

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forward to showing up every day.
That's Miles Straw and maybe I'll tell he's

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still kind of battling some stuff in
terms of congestion, and that's what guys

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have had. They've had the funk
for lack of a better word, where

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there's some congestion there just not feeling
good. And Miles talked about you'd never

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want to be confined to your apartment
in spring training when the weather's so good

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and everyone's feeling good and getting ready
for the season and you can't be out

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there doing the same thing. But
it looks like he's just fine. He

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swung the bat really well this week
in a couple of games he played toward

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the tail end of the week,
so that's good news there a gold Glove

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caliber center fielder. Stay with us
while we come back. We'll hear from

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general manager Mike Chernoff some tough news
injury wise this week, and he'll fill

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seats. Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse back with you from Goodyear,

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Arizona and Guardians Spring Training. Thanks
so much for tuning into our show

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this weekend. A little bit earlier
this week On Thursday, the Guardians took

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down the Colorado Rockies. That was
a radio game for US and during the

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third inning that day, Mike Churnoff
joined Tom Hamilton and they talked about a

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big news day, unfortunate news day
in terms of injuries, but some other

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things too, as the roster continues
to develop toward the tail end of spring

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training. So here's Tom and Mike
Churnoff, the general manager for the Cleveland

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Guardians. Journey will start off with
a couple of easy ones, like who

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the first pick is going to be? We're going to take me to this

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chair until I tell you that right
that in the opening day lineup, we'll

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go through the twenty six man roster
here with let's start with the easy questions,

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hebby, have you ever watched more
college baseball outside of when you were

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playing? I'm not sure. I
watched this a much team when I played,

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And I know we're getting ahead of
ourselves, but it really is exciting

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to think about, isn't it.
Yeah, it's exciting. I mean,

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that was such an unexpected day when
that happened. During winter meetings, we

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were going crazy and now it's the
reality of it. Of like, okay,

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We've got to prepare for this.
It's a great opportunity, but we

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want to make sure we try to
get it right. How big a deal

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is it to have the number one
pick? It's huge. I mean there's

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two aspects of it. In baseball, it's not exactly like other sports.

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Getting the number one pick is hugely
important, but it also increases the amount

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of pool space that you have to
be able to potentially even maximize your pool

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and get more players. Does that
come into play like more so with having

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a second first round pick a comp
I think that's that's exactly right. With

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the opportunity of having the first pick
in the draft and that comp a pick,

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which I think is pick thirty seven, you hope to be able to

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really get, you know, a
couple of players and maybe even spread it

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out further into the draft to maximize
what you get in all of the spots

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that you're picking in the draft.
Isn't until is it All Star Week?

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Again? Yes, it's All Start
Week. It's the Sunday of the All

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Star But you know, right before
the All Start break is the first day.

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Would you like there to be a
clear cut, no doubt about it

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number one pick? Because in all
likelihood, we're talking at college kid this

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year, or would you like it
to be those five guys we all talk

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about. I think, look,
it sort of makes your job easier when

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there's that clear cut number one,
that's it only one guy and he separates

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himself. But I don't know that
that's better. I think having hard decisions

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is good, and you sort of
want to have a lot of options,

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especially as the college season plays out, or any high school players in the

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mix. As it plays out,
somebody could get injured. Like you want

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to have options. And I think
this is a year where we feel like

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there actually are a number of guys
that are factoring in that we feel really

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good about. Now. That makes
our lives harder. It makes us feel

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the pressure and the anxiety of hoping
to get it right. But like we

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saw last year, I think there
could be a lot of players in the

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first few picks that are really good
players. We're joined by Mike Chernoff,

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general manager of the Cleveland Guardians.
All Right, we told the fans the

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bad news we know with Trevor Stephen, Tommy John upcoming reconstructive elbows surgery.

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Can a reliever make it back quicker? Than a starter with that surgery,

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oh no doubt. Yeah. I
mean it doesn't change the time frame drastically,

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but with a reliever, you don't
have to build a guy back up

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to five or six innings, So
it changes it by at least about a

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month, right, It takes about
a month to build a guy up from

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one or two innings up to the
five or six innings. So on the

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back end of this, once he's
in rehab games, that is a shorter

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recovery time for him. But Daniel
a Spinel, as crushing as it was

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for him, it had to be
for you guys. It was awful just

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with everything he's been through. I
mean, this is going to be at

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least another year of rehab for him. And you couldn't find a better kid.

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I mean from the day we drafted
him, he had a maturity beyond

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his years, and he is he's
the guy you pull for, not just

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because of the talent on the field, but because of everything that he is

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as a person. So this was
really hard for all of us, and

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obviously especially for him. We just
want to find ways to support him through

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this and hope he comes out the
other side of this. Are you worried

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his career is in jeopardy. I
mean really any surgery of course, and

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now a second surgery, Yeah,
you have to think about that. But

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we're going to do absolutely everything in
our power to help him get back on

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the field and tap into that talent
that he has, and I know he'll

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do the same. I mean what's
stunning is he hadn't even thrown a baseball,

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yeah, since the last surgery.
Right, Well, he had started

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to throw a little bit. He
was your light throwing, but it wasn't

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like an acute thing that he felt
on a throw. Yeah. I know.

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It's a really unfortunate thing. And
this we knew. The first surgery

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was a complicated surgery and so it
had some chance of this happening, but

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it is. It's really unfortunate based
on the news with those guys and Garrett

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Cole, what's your level of concern
with Gavin Williams, Well, Gavin,

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thankfully, you know, when we
had the imaging done, structurally, everything

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looks good. So this we're thinking
is just a short term thing. Again,

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you have to build these guys up, and in Gavin's case, he

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hadn't gotten up to the four or
five innings that. You know, you

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want to get a guy up too, so it's going to slow him down

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some. He's got to get through
this. We have to have this calm

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down in the back of his elbow, and then at that point we'll start

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the build up again. So it
does add a little bit of time,

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but from a level of concern,
it's not the same type of concerns as

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when you see something structurally on the
MRIs. But he won't be there opening

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day. I doubt that that would
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we are joined by general manager Mike
Chernoff here in the bottom of the third

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from Goodyear Journey. We know there
are multiple people in the hunt yet for

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the shortstop spot. But is it
safe to say it comes down to Arius

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and Rocchio or am I making too
big of an assumption. Nothing is safe

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to say. I mean, you
know, we can. We have to

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see how things go. I think
we have a lot of players that we're

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excited about to play the middle of
lean field. You're seeing the majority of

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playing time right now go to Rokio
on Arius. Those are the guys who've

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had the most time in Triple A
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really truly in contention for that spot. But I think whether it's opening Day

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or other times in the year,
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the other players who have made a
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like, for instance, we talked
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mean, Estevan flori All two more
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as far as the numbers, but
you're looking beyond that. I mean,

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Hammy, you know, you probably
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he had, right, and that's
a wonderful thing. You want a guy

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to have a great spring and not
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to me like Florie's just pressing.
I mean, this is a hard situation

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to come in in the offseason.
He's coming in from the Yankees, where

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I think he felt all the pressure
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he was hoping for a fresh start. I mean, he had no future

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outlook there because of the guys they
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fresh start for him, and I
think he wanted to make a good impression

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so bad that he's such a great
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him. He is a wonderful kid, and I think he just so badly

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wanted to make a good impression that
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don't think this is who he is
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figure out, Okay, how do
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know, what this could look like
in season potentially. Do you look at

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Rokio and Arius under the same scope, do you think they're pressing? Yes?

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came in. They also felt like
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think they felt a lot of pressure, and they're so young, they haven't

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been through this before, so there's
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guys that feel like they're in competition
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doesn't mean that we don't want to
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they have to handle adversity as big
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keep that in the back of our
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spring training plate appearances, and that
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more at the process of how they're
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looks and all of that, would
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don't want all these guys up here
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shortstop job and the other guys have
to go and play every day? Right?

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Are these the sneaky kind of questions
that you asked Foreman when he was

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on the other day? You know
what, Brody was busy, your oldest

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son, and Sarah's banned me from
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Well, you're you're hitting on an
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couple factors. One, You're right, we don't want some of our top

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guys sitting right. You want those
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better. These are young players that
have to improve you also, you know,

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I think with any young player,
you want to make sure that you

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help them not just focus on opening
day. The pressure isn't just to make

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the opening day roster. And that's
it. You're seeing it. With our

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pitching, we're going to need to
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want players to be ready for it
whenever that everyday opportunity comes up to be

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ready for it, and often that
means going back to Triple A and playing

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every day so that you are prepared. All right, The last easy question

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when will Chase still latter be here? This is breaking up a little bit,

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how I mean, you and I
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we went on the air and talked
to Chris about it this morning. You

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ever remember a younger player with so
little experience still here this deep into camp.

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Yeah, I mean, he's been
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I think he's got about three hundred
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so you have to remember that.
And he's got a lot of things

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that he just hasn't experienced yet,
and so you want a player to experience

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those things, usually at the minor
league level first to figure out how to

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get through it. But at the
same time, you don't set time tables

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on guys. I mean, he's
been so impressive offensively, defensively on the

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basis we're really excited about his future. Well, Charney, we really appreciate

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the time, Thanks so much and
continued success. This is going to be

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fun. Thanks, Amy, were
excited for well. A lot of good

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stuff there from Cherney regarding the roster
entry issues, how they're trying to get

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to a certain place with certain positions. A lot going on here and there

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is not much time left in the
spring training. We're under two weeks to

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go now until opening day in Oakland
on March the twenty eight. Stay with

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us when we came back. We'll
hear from pitching coach Carl Willis. That's

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next on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio
Network. Don't go away, folks,

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Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim
Rosenhouse along with you from Goodyear, Arizona

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and Guardians spring training as we get
deeper into it. Less than two weeks

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to go now until opening night in
Oakland, and the Guardians will break camp

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a week from Tuesday, so we
are not that far away. They'll wrap

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up with a couple of games down
at Chase Field and then jet off to

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the San Francisco area where they stay
when they play the Oakland Athletics, and

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that's where they open the season with
four against Oakland. Carl Willis is back

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for another season as the Guardians pitching
coach, and that was not a given

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with the retirement of Terry Francona at
the end of last season, but certainly

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Cleveland happy to have him back.
He's one of the best in the game

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at what he does. He has
overseen four different cy Young Award winners,

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and who knows, maybe there's another
one in the mix on this year's staff

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for the Cleveland Guardians. When we
caught up with Carl earlier this week for

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a wide ranging interview about the current
staff and also where he's at in terms

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of his career, he talked about
his reasoning for coming back and some of

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the things that factored into that decision. Well, Rosie, you know,

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first and foremost, just you know, at stage of life, I'm sixty

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three years old, as not old
by any means, but I've been around

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the game for forty one years now, and obviously you spent a lot of

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time away from my family and my
kids now my grandkids. Still am blessed

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to have my mother, So you
know, those factors, the family factor

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weighs in, But certainly it also
weighs in that I still have a passion

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for this game. I have a
big passion for our pictures, uh,

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you know, and I want them
them all. But you know, Shane

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Bieber, Tristan McKenzie, Carlos Carrasco
being back in camp. But but also

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the the young three that that we
saw a glimpse of last year. You

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know, that's very exciting and they're
exciting to work with and quite frankly a

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passion for the Cleveland Guardians. You
know, this organization has been so very,

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very good to me and my family. And you know, when when

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they asked me if I'd like to
come back, if I was open to

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coming back, you know that that
that's actually a big honor for me.

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I mean, I I appreciated that, and that's when I really had to

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seetually consider, you know, what
was best for you know, mainly my

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family right now, and if they
can handle it, then I wanted to

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not fulfill the obligation, but I
guess fulfill the request. And you know,

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I'm just honored they feel that way
about me. And you're working under

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a new manager for the first time
in a long time. How do you

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bridge that gap relationship wise with Steven
Vote? And I know it's still early

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yet the games are underway, but
how much goes into that to make sure

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that you guys can hit the ground
running when the regular season begins. Well,

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you know, we're trying to spend
as much time as we can together

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on the field. At the field, it's difficult because you know, he

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is not only building new relationships,
you know, with a staff and an

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organization, but he's in a position
he hasn't been in before. So you

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know, there's an awful lot on
his plate. And as much times is

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I would like to to, you
know, be the only one sitting talking

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with him, that's just not possible. But I think that, you know,

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so far our time together has been
good. You know, it's it's

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it's somewhat challenging, or it's just
it's just different spring training. You know,

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the games, the outcome of the
game, certainly, you you know,

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it's important to shake hands and win
games, but but getting the guys

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ready that you're counting on is more
important. So at the end of the

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day, the outcome of the game
and really the most important thing. And

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I feel like, you know,
we're not gonna learn how each other operates

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when it matters until it really matters, and I'm looking forward to that.

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But I I feel like, you
know, he's a guy that's two years

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removed from playing, so he's gonna
definitely be able to relate to the players,

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understand what makes those guys tick and
you know, he was a catcher,

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so he understands the pitching aspects of
the game and he unders been he's

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been exposed to a lot of the
analytical side of the game that I think,

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I feel like like myself, he
knows how to use and he knows

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how to push aside when maybe it's
not pertinent to the moment. So I'm

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really looking forward to it and I
think it's off to a good start.

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So along those lines in terms of
what you bring to this organization and have

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for a long time, Uh,
the game's changing. There's so much now,

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and the Guardians are at the forefront. It's part of what has made

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them such a good pitching organization.
That blend of technology and analytics and how

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have you been able to bring what
you're so good at, those relationships and

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things that you grew up with and
blend all that together, because it seems

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like you've done that, at least
from the outside. Well, I think,

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you know, being open minded and
open to change is not to say

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that it's not difficult at times,
is not to say it's not very frustrating

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at times times. But I think
the most important aspect is again to be

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open minded and to to give it
its due respect. And and so when

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you do have things that are important, and it's not that it's all not

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important, but when things specifically matter
right now and can make a difference,

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I think it's how to communicate those
things that and and the timing, your

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timing of communication, and and then
your language. And you know, certainly,

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having been out there on the mound
competing, even though it was a

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long time ago, I know all
the things that go through a picture's mind.

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And so it's just again, I
think communication and the timeliness of that

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communication to communicate, whether it be
analytics or something old school, that it's

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most important. All right, let's
get to the good stuff with Carl Willis

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in terms of the pictures at hand, as we get in a deeper into

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March, Carl, you look at
the starting rotation and the potential is narrative

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for it to be extremely good.
With the five pictures that look like they're

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going to be in there right at
the top, Shane Bieber looks phenomenal of

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what's he done in the off season
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you know, first and foremost,
he ended the season healthy, and I

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think he you know, in his
mind, he knew he was healthy,

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he was paying free, and you
know, two seasons, two off seasons

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ago, it was kind of a
rehab type of an off season that took

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a lot out of him. And
then the next off season, you know,

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he tried to treat it normal and
give his body a bit of a

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break from all the work he'd done
the previous eighteen months. But this season,

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getting to the end, feeling healthy, not having a big workload,

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he was really able to focus solely
on, you know, what he wanted

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to accomplish, and and quite frankly, that was to see if there was

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anything whether it be delivery wise or
if he could just get back into the

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mindset to possibly pick up a couple
miles an hour again. So he took

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the opportunity, he went to drive
line out here in Arizona, and in

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that focus, you know, he
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we've seen more velo, we've seen
a little better life to the fastball,

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and it's brought some power back to
the curveball, which if you go back

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to twenty twenty, which is hard
to believe that's four years ago, but

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you know, that was his pitch
and there was a lot of power to

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it, and and he had lost
some of that power. So I think

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we're going to see a version of
Shane Bieber that is much closer to what

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we saw in twenty and twenty one. The three kids, and let's lump

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them all together. I know you
can't really do that, but what do

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you keep in the eye on this
spring as they as you get them prepared

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for what hopefully is is a first
full season for them in the big leagues.

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Well, the first thing we're cuban
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Tanner. So these two guys never
they haven't been to major league spring training

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before, so I'm kind of trying
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You know, we had them pitching
simulating games prior to getting into major

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league games. We did that actually
with all five of our starters, but

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there were different reasons behind Shane and
Tristan. But to just each time out

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take one step forward and not try
to take two. And you know,

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those guys are still young in their
careers and they've already proven their winners at

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the major league level. But again, it kind of goes back to that

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understanding of you know, the outcomes
of your outings in spring training are less

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important than the process and what you
did on the mound that day, and

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are you building towards being that complete
package that you can be or close to

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it by opening day. Sometimes that
means going out and pitching the game and

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really focusing on one particular pitch.
When you do that, that pitch gets

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better. But if you're only throwing
that one pitch, it probably gets hit

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a little more often, so the
outcome is not great. Yet your process

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is good because you improve the pitch, and when the season starts, you're

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going to mix it with your others. So really trying to manage I guess

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their intensity, their effort, get
them built up, and try to balance

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not getting complacent because all three of
them had success during their rookie seasons last

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year. The game doesn't get any
easier just because you've arrived and had some

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As a matter of fact, gets
much more difficult because you know the opposition

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starts to study a little harder now. So the biggest thing is to prepare

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them, to keep them on a
good path and knock on wood, but

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to keep them healthy. You mentioned
a name earlier, Carlos Carrasco back in

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camp, first time in a while
with the Guardians. What's his path to

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make this team? How do you
see this working out for him if he's

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to make this team and help well, you know, Carlos has has some

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versatility. I'm sure most folks in
Cleveland remember several years ago when you know,

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he went out to the bullpen and
pitched out of the bullpen and he

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kind of found himself there and transitioned
back into a starter role. So I

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think Number one have that versatility to
to not just be locked into a starting

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position, but he could potentially help
our bullpen, which you know right now

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is a little bit up in the
air in terms of you know, filling

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out eight guys in that in that
bullpen, but certainly, you know,

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seeing what kind of power is left
in his arsenal. He knows how to

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pitch, he knows how to shape
the baseball, so you know, getting

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back to some basics of his delivery
that you know, we're very familiar with

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due to his time here and and
just to go out and compete and see

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again how he's able to recover,
you know, whether it be every fifth

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day or every third day, if
it's a bullpen or something like that,

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and just let him go out and
compete. If he can do the things

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he can do, he's gonna force
us to make a decision because you know,

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we could very well be a better
club and a better pitching staff with

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him on it bullpen. You mentioned
some things up in the air, but

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let's at least touch on the back
end. Emmanuel class a tremendous two seasons,

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a lot of work in there.
What are you saying so far this

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spring from him? And what do
you try and keep an eye on for

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him to make sure that that he
can give you as many outings as he

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needs to. Well, you know, we're very pleased with Emmanual and how

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he came into spring training. You
know, I think in twenty twenty two,

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having kind of a breakout season,
got a lot of accolades in the

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off season. You know, came
to spring training last year in a good

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place, but maybe not in the
best place he could be in. I

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think he'd tell you that, you
know what we're seeing right now in early

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March, he's where he was last
year in the latter part of March.

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I mean he came in that far
ahead, and it's obvious that he did

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his work in the off season.
We're seeing velocities at spring training right now.

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Ninety seven ninety eight were last year. We're seeing ninety three ninety four.

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We're seeing the depth of the slider. You know, saw fundamental play

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yesterday where he was standing at first
base waiting for the relay throw on the

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back end of double play. So
it tells you that he's mentally locked in.

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So I think that, you know, while he saved forty five games

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last year, we saw bump up
in his ra We saw, you know,

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a few blown saves that obviously everybody
is well documented. But I think

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that you know, he's challenged himself
to be the to go out and be

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the best he can be this year
and continue to be one of the best

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closers in the game, if not
the best. I will close with this

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with Carl Willis. You made a
million mound visits in your pitching coach career.

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Obviously some are different than others,
the funny ones. What's going on

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out there on the mound when you
have to go out to the mount and

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maybe on your way back, we
see the pitcher snickering, or the catcher

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or even yourself. Well, you
know, sometimes you just need to break

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the tension. I mean, everyone
knows the situation, everyone knows what's you

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know on the line. I you
know, one of the funnier ones actually

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happened in Cleveland. I can't recall
the year. May have been two thousand

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and five or six. I'm going
back aways now I have been nine.

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We had a Masa Kobayashi, and
we had an interpreter and I asked him

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for a interpretation. It was a
word. I wanted to know how to

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say something in Japanese. And so
he told me, and I ran to

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the mound, repeating it over and
over and over so I wouldn't forget how

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to say it. And and when
I got out there, and when I

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said it, uh, Massa's eyes
got wide open and he looked at me

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and he kind of smiled. And
Tim Laker was a catcher and he's like,

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Carl, I didn't know you spoke
Japanese, and you know, And

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so I just repeated the phrase,
and so then he repeated the phrase,

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and then kobe Yashi repeated the phrase, and so we were all standing out

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there kind of chuckling, and the
home plate umpire came out and he goes,

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Carl, what's going on out here? And I said, oh,

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we're just talking about and you know, whatever the phrase was, I don't

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know, and he goes, oh, and then he said it, and

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so we all just stood there laughing, and then we we came back into

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the dugout, or I came back
into the dugout, and I can tell

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you that I remember Derek Jeter was
the hitter, and I believe the bases

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were loaded and he hit a line
drive. It was a missile right at

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the second basement that we turned a
double play on. And Laker came in

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the dugout and he yells out whatever
the word was in Japanese, and I

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yelled it back at him, and
the next thing, you know, everybody

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at the dugouts yelled and Kobe Yashi's
laughing, and it made for a good

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story. You know. It's something
that you know, I've never forgotten,

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and a couple of guys you know, have heard the story and we'll bring

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it up on occasion. But you
know, sometimes you have to you have

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to light in the moment. But
again it goes back to to communication,

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and hey, sometimes they may snicker
when I leave because they think I'm full

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of it. You know, I
don't know, but I think you don't

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really like going out there, you
know so, but you have to.

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You have to at times, and
you have to make the best of it.

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It's Guardians pitching coach Carl Willis always
a wealth of information and enjoyable interview

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every time, and we certainly thank
his him for his time this week's show.

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Rosenhouse back with you for just a
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