1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,039 What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season two, episode nineteen 2 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:18,399 of Clips in dip your I don't know borderline every Day Clippers podcast. We 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,920 put some kind of content out of the multi day multi day Clippers podcast. 4 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:27,679 I am Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Auslin and will you Updyke. Thank 5 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:31,120 you to all the new people who joined. If you're new to the Clippers. 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,439 If you knew this podcast, welcome. You can find us on Twitter 7 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:40,039 at Clippers Pod. You can find us on YouTube at Clippers Podcast. Today 8 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:44,240 we're talking I mean, James Harden's debuting against the Knicks. Everyone's mad at 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,640 us for talking about him in the offseason, and here we are. How 10 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:55,479 about that. We're gonna talk his misconstrued quotes. We're gonna talk some things. 11 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,960 Maybe we've learned about PJ. Tucker's spot on this team, the potential 12 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:03,560 starting lineup, as well as kind of just what they have to do to 13 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,599 get a win against a knixt team that New York fans seem kind of concerned 14 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:11,959 about. But before we get into all of that, my other two fantastic 15 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,959 co hoster here, will Adam, How are you fellas doing doing good? 16 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,760 I mean, I haven't even gotten a chance to really chop it up with 17 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:22,760 you guys about the hard and stuff since it happened. I mean, we've 18 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:25,480 been going back and forth in the group chat, but we haven't talked about 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,920 it. Huge move that felt pretty inevitable. But I think you know, 20 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:36,560 this absolutely puts an end to the Clippers need a point guard talking point right. 21 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,120 This is the best point guard they could have gotten, best point guard, 22 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:42,959 point guard available. Definitely the best point guard that they've had in this 23 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,560 era. So I feel like we can put that one to bed. And 24 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,120 you know that doesn't work out, then I guess we know that wasn't the 25 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:53,719 issue. Right. It's kind of funny to think about this point guard saga 26 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:59,920 if you think about all the true real point guards the Clippers have brought it 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,920 right, We've got Rondo, we've got Wall, we've got Westbrook bloodsoe it's 28 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,560 almost like horror movies. I thought the Blood was gonna do better, I'm 29 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:14,400 sure, but it's almost like horror movie sequels, Like now we're at the 30 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,120 end, like this is the end of the series, Like it's this is 31 00:02:19,159 --> 00:02:22,599 where we are. Adam, how are you doing? I don't know, 32 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:31,400 there's still more screams coming out. I'm doing good requels. Is that like 33 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,520 retcon stuff or whatever. I don't know how that works. I'm just a 34 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,000 little bit salty. After Chuck reminded me how many people said stop talking hardened 35 00:02:43,039 --> 00:02:46,400 this summer. I just would like the apology to be as loud as the 36 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:52,520 disrespect was. Is that right? All right? Yeah? I am a 37 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,039 very petty note I said I was salty, and you're getting too loud. 38 00:02:57,039 --> 00:03:02,039 Your mic is blown out, your mic, he's fired up speaking of some 39 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:07,360 people who may be thought of as petty by other people. We have to 40 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:14,439 talk. The James Harden introductory presser, there was some misconstrued quotes, which 41 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:17,840 is not a surprise. I don't think the quote going around, of course, 42 00:03:19,759 --> 00:03:23,680 was that he said, you know he's he's not a system. He 43 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,520 is the system if you look at James Harden's career, is not technically wrong. 44 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:35,439 But then when it was further brought out, it made a lot more 45 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:38,599 sense. The main points he talked about proving that he's, you know, 46 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:40,719 elite as an individual, he wants to fit with everybody. He wants to 47 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:46,719 make the championship run work. Will how'd you feel after the podcast, like 48 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:47,759 you said. We talked about it in the group chat a little bit, 49 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:53,879 but I was I didn't think it was going to go swimmingly. I just 50 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:58,719 there's it's not a position to succeed if you're James Harden with how quotes get 51 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:00,879 taken out. So wait, do you mean the press conference in general? 52 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,000 Yeah, or just the vibe you got. I guess like how you felt 53 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:09,680 after the press conference with well, I, you know, I, like 54 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:12,520 a lot of people. The first quote that I saw, I can't remember 55 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,360 if it was Malik Andrews or who who it was that that tweeted it, 56 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,519 but I saw just sort of the system quote, and that one kind of 57 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,399 worried me. And then I looked at the full context of the quote and 58 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:25,199 there was something like, you know, I don't need to go out there 59 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:30,120 and score thirty six every night, And that kind of gave me some John 60 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Wall PTSD. But actually, in the group chat, you guys both reassured 61 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,360 me that, you know, James Harden is a lot better. Yes, 62 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:44,040 So that is is certainly reassuring. But I do think people went ahead and 63 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,680 ran with that one. You know, it's one of those things like at 64 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,759 this point in his career, you know Harden is never gonna shake that perception. 65 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,600 Even if he's urged, he's in, he's in like a lose lose 66 00:04:55,639 --> 00:04:59,560 situation because I feel like even if the Clippers, who still aren't in the 67 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:03,920 upper tier of contenders, which is fair, you know, they haven't proved 68 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,959 that theyre I wouldn't put them probably with like Boston and Denver and those kind 69 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,480 of teams. But even if they like win a championship, I feel like 70 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,920 it's still is gonna be people are gonna think of it with an asterisk for 71 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:19,519 Harden. Like, I still just think that that's gonna be the situation. 72 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,920 And in terms of him being the system, I really believe, and I 73 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:31,920 do believe this that he hasn't gotten to be the system either in Brooklyn or 74 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,040 in Philadelphia. I mean, Charles, you and I talked as soon as 75 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:40,519 they made the trade, the Sixers Nets trade. I could not imagine a 76 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:46,879 worst coach for James Harden. I could possibly imagine a worst coach that pairing 77 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,800 that like, I just that pairing makes absolutely no sense. And I know 78 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,279 that Harden, you know, he gets crapped on for the way he lives, 79 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,399 the way he left Houston, But can we be honest. That team 80 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,839 was a joke. The team was a joke. When he left, he 81 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,399 was in his prime. It made sense he wanted to leave the Nets thing. 82 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,920 Are you kidding? Who wouldn't want out of that situation? You would 83 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:13,959 a player like you would a player. I know Kawhi and Paul George gets 84 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:17,120 shipped that they don't want to play. You legit had a player refusing to 85 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,680 play, really didn't want to play. Yeah, really, And that's when 86 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,839 his injuries started piling up because he's, you know, he's he's having to 87 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:28,839 carry a heavy load. Which like, man, you thought you were coming 88 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,160 there with two other stars. You thought you were coming there to, you 89 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:35,680 know, maybe be the third best guy, and instead you're carrying the team. 90 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,839 And then you know, you go to the seventi sections and you know, 91 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:42,839 I'm not gonna repeat myself on the coaching thing, but I can understand 92 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:46,399 how you would want out of that situation as well. So look, I'm 93 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:49,279 not gonna stand here in defend Harden, but I can understand some of his 94 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:57,800 part of these arguments. I like it. I think he doesn't have much 95 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,399 a good will with Clippers fans. Some Clippers fans hate Harden right now. 96 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:05,319 But oh no, Adam, if you're not watching us on YouTube, Adam 97 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,360 has changed his name to Harden Petty. I'm gonna go ahead and give you 98 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:13,800 the floor because it seems like you're hyped up. Do you really think I'm 99 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,720 the one who has control over my name tag? That's all you will? 100 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:23,879 You can't do that. Yeah. I like Will's creativity with it apologists versus 101 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,519 Arden Petty. Well, look, guys, I'll just play the audio for 102 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:31,959 you. This is what was No, I'm just kidding, uh the show, 103 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Adam sometimes will blast an unrequited audio on the mic. Great great podcasting 104 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:46,319 and radio audio technique. So here's what he said. He was asked about 105 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,519 being on a leash in Philadelphia because he talked about that earlier in the press 106 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:56,560 conference, and I think it was Rachel Nichols who then asked him to follow 107 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,639 up with that, and he said, I don't think when I'm in a 108 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,040 leash, I'm not shooting the basketball every time. I meant like I think 109 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:05,240 the game. I'm a creator on the court, you know what I mean? 110 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:07,639 So if I got a voice too where I can go, Hey, 111 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,680 coach, I see this, What do you think about this? Then it's 112 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,279 like, Okay, somebody that trust me, that believes in me, that 113 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,040 understands me that I'm just not I'm not a system player. I am a 114 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:22,519 system you know what I mean? So somebody that can have that dialogue with 115 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 me to understand and move forward and figure out and make adjustments on the fly 116 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:28,199 throughout the course of games, that's all I really care about. It's not 117 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,000 about me scoring a basketball, scoring thirty four points. I've done that already, 118 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,799 So that's what I meant by it. To me that a completely different 119 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:45,200 light of regarding him saying I am the system. This is basically him firing 120 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,159 back a little bit at Doc Rivers, who's gone on this media tour and 121 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,360 has gone after James Harden, Doc Rivers blaming someone else. I know some 122 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:58,559 people are certainly not going to be shocked by that. I love Doc, 123 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,879 but I understand why somebody will want to push back and give their side of 124 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:07,080 the story, and also why you would want to be heard if you're one 125 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,919 of the greatest playmakers and basketball minds of your generation, with what you're seeing 126 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,559 out there on the court, do you not think Coach lou fits into exactly 127 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,600 what he's saying here, Coach lou will listen to him, and he'll also 128 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:24,600 be able to make adjustments on the fly. That's all he wants. That's 129 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:31,399 what he's talking about. He's not just being a pigeonholed into a certain role 130 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,639 with this team. He's going to be asked about the feel of the game, 131 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:39,159 what he's seeing out there, how they can take advantage of mismatches. 132 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,279 That's to me, the way to interpret this correctly from James Harden, especially 133 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:48,200 when he comes in late and says it's not about scoring thirty four points. 134 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,639 I'd have done that already. He doesn't care about that part of it. 135 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,720 That's very encouraging. Although for the haters out there, I do want to 136 00:09:56,759 --> 00:10:01,080 say anytime James Harden has a bad game, retweet the stat line with the 137 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:07,799 Homestar Runner the system is down and you'll always get You'll always get like from 138 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,480 me. That's fair. I Also we're talking about docs comments too. Look 139 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:16,360 at Nick Nurse's comments about Harden. He talked about how he was in shape, 140 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:20,960 he was probably ready to play a game. Like Nick Nurse is good 141 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,519 with the media, but he never said anything that made it seem like Harden 142 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,399 was making things more difficult for the seventy six Again, I'm not you know, 143 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,159 I I understand I have my reservations about this trade too, but also 144 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,679 at the end of the day, he's here now. We can't do anything 145 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,559 about that at all. Ahead, Well, I just got to ask you 146 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,039 a question personally. How big of a factor do you think it was for 147 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,600 Harden in not playing a game with the seventy six ers, seeing uh, 148 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:56,600 seeing him travel with the guitar case. I love nurse travel with the guitar 149 00:10:56,639 --> 00:11:01,039 case. If you think could have factored in and not wanting to play a 150 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:03,039 game for the Philadelphia seventy six ers, I don't want to be seen. 151 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,080 I don't know where Adam went. By the way, if you're he's back, 152 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,840 if you're watching on YouTube, Adam had to leave for some reason. 153 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,879 I would never if my coach had a guitar case that they brought on away 154 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,440 games, I would fly private. I would say I'll pay for this. 155 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:24,639 I don't want to hear him start a song on the on the plane or 156 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,759 anything like that. I hope that's I would be fully on James Harden's side. 157 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:31,639 You don't want to sing along the wagon wheel on the on the private 158 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,559 flight. I would, I would blushy that thing. I would. I 159 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:41,399 would destroy Nick Nurse's guitar. I don't think acoustic guitars should ever be played. 160 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:43,600 Is a hot take that people can come at me if they want, 161 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:50,360 But acoustic guitar should be banned, Guys, I'm just amazed, and hopefully 162 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:54,399 my mic is sounding better for those two. I'm trying to troubleshoot that behind 163 00:11:54,440 --> 00:12:00,559 the scenes. Okay, hope I didn't butcher the hardened quote by it with 164 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,200 a huge echo or something like that. But how about this side of it. 165 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:09,799 For all those who are questioning the Harden move, how many of you 166 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:15,159 were saying the exact same stuff about Russell Westbrook. If only we had a 167 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,039 recent example of a guy who looked like couldn't change his game and then came 168 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:26,200 to the Clippers and somehow was a different player attacking closeouts. He's shooting damn 169 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,679 thirty nine percent so far on this season. Going back to last season, 170 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:31,960 he was a thirty six percent from the outside. I'm not saying either of 171 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,679 those are going to end up holding up, but if he's shot from the 172 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:41,679 thirty four percent or above that we'll be fine. That's all they're looking for 173 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:46,200 and taking fewer threes and getting other guys involved and just trying to make the 174 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,960 game easier for Kawhi and Paul George. Oh, and hey, guess what 175 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,399 all of you who said, oh, that ten game sample size though last 176 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:58,840 season with Russell Westbrook next to the two to one three connection, it doesn't 177 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,519 work. We had ten games of it, Well, guess what now going 178 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,759 back to the last six games of last season plus the first five of this 179 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,960 season with that three lineup trio, it looks way better. So do we 180 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,799 go off the ten game sample or the eleven? If ten was enough for 181 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,399 you, then I guess eleven should be even better. Right, because all 182 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:22,399 of a sudden, their offensive rating this season with those three on the court 183 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:26,200 is one hundred and twenty eight. Everybody kept saying, oh, that offensive 184 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:30,120 rating with RUSS, that offensive rating with RUSS. I said, it's only 185 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:33,559 ten games. Why are you putting so much into that? You guys know 186 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,399 it was a huge talking point, So now why are you so upset? 187 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Though we've moved past RUSS rules. Now everyone's on board with us. No 188 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,639 they're not. They're not all on board with it. And my point is, 189 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:46,879 even if even for the people who are some of those people aren't on 190 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:50,720 board with James and saying the same things about James that they said about Russ. 191 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,919 So I think it's important to go back to how you felt about Russell 192 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,679 Westbrook coming into this Clipper situation and apply some of that perception or some of 193 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,080 that respective I should say to what's going on with James Harden. Now, 194 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,159 I think that's totally fair? Is it not fair? Y'all said ten games 195 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:15,600 with enough taken down the guard lineup are with right now? A lot of 196 00:14:15,639 --> 00:14:20,039 people. I'm just look, I'm gonna I'm gonna make it as loud as 197 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:22,679 the criticism was if nobody else is. I'm gonna call out all the people 198 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:28,480 that said that ten games sample size was enough to go after Russ being next 199 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:31,039 to two, one, three and saying that the offense doesn't work. We 200 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,320 now have eleven games and it looks like it is working. Right, So 201 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:37,919 you're saying right, like right, of course? Like no, not, 202 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,399 of course, nobody was talking about this. They were all talking about the 203 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:45,559 ten game that looked bad, but nobody was talking about now we have eleven 204 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,639 games where it looks really good. That's what I'm saying, so, make 205 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:52,759 it loud, Make it as loud as it was about the ten games that 206 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:56,360 look bad with him on offense next to Paul Georgia Kauai. Right, yeah, 207 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,519 I keep it consistent, make it fair, all right, Adams want 208 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:03,720 me to go back to the rundowns that said that his offensive verny next to 209 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:09,240 Kawhi and Paul George. I'm not saying you're wrong. We've all said on 210 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:11,840 this podcast that we're on board with RUSS. Now you're acting like I'm being 211 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:16,559 a rational or where is this coming from. It's coming from a place where 212 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,879 throughout the summer the ten Games was brought up back in March, it was 213 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:24,759 brought up like so now I'm going to bring it up the same way with 214 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,919 the same amount of energy, with eleven game sample size. And for all 215 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,919 of you are out there saying, well context, Now, where was the 216 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,360 context in the first ten games with RUSS next to Kwahi and PG. You 217 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,440 didn't apply any context. Now people are saying, well, look at some 218 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,440 of the teams they're playing. Okay, let's go back to the first five 219 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:43,080 games they had. Who were those teams? Were they missing a beats? 220 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,639 Zoobots for those sure, but you didn't want to apply context then, but 221 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:52,039 now you do. That's just interesting. Yeah, that's where I'm confused. 222 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,480 The same people who are so loud about Hardened, a lot of them were 223 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,600 doing the exact same thing about Russell Westbrook. That's where let's do it right. 224 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,679 So let's move on from the Russ stuff because it's good now. And 225 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:07,200 let's hope the Harden stuff is good because I believe in the Hardened stuff. 226 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,679 So I just hope you're not too stressed about old stuff when we do maybe 227 00:16:12,679 --> 00:16:18,080 have some news struff to be stressed about. If somebody is going to make 228 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,279 that a talking point all summer and at the end of last season that Russ 229 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:26,399 doesn't work next to Kawhi and Paul George because of a ten game sample sized 230 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,519 Yes, I'm going to call it out once we have eleven games that says 231 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:33,200 it does work. I think that's fair. You're going Twitter account by Twitter 232 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,799 account I have been, That's what I'm saying. I'm saying for Yeah, 233 00:16:38,919 --> 00:16:45,360 the receipts all right. So if you don't think you can make this work 234 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:49,080 with James Harden, maybe check out what he did with Russell Westbrook. I 235 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:55,480 think this back to back. Also, if you're anti hardened, splitting this 236 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,600 back to back showed both games, even the win against the Magic showed where 237 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:03,759 James Harden helps. Kawhi goes what probably his worst shooting night of the night. 238 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:06,720 We still get the win, but you know, we need a little 239 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,960 bit of extra effort. Harden helps that game, makes it easier on PG 240 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:15,079 and Russ. That game against the Lakers, which probably a contender for best 241 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:18,640 regular season game of the year. It's a shame obviously the Clippers didn't pull 242 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,960 it out, but you can't pretend what did Tyler say he saw fifty three 243 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,240 minutes where he could use James Harden like these are. We were shown immediate 244 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:32,960 examples of how adding Harden helps this team, and now we actually get a 245 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,799 see it against the Knicks, which is gonna be a good time. Where 246 00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:40,880 are we at on the starting lineup? La Murray projects that even when Terrence 247 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,319 comes back, probably it's going to be hardened Westbrook, PG, Kawai Zoo. 248 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,000 Is that a huge surprise? It didn't feel like I feel like people 249 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,559 are asking him. It's not available right now, so no, right like 250 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:55,960 people are asking this question, like are they going to start together? I 251 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,759 kind of assumed they were going to with tylu especially, you know what I'm 252 00:17:59,759 --> 00:18:02,759 saying, Like, it's not that crazy. I do see the point of 253 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:07,720 it being somewhat problematic because both guys are ball dominant. But Harden can obviously 254 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:11,440 play off the ball much better than Russell Westbrook. His catch and shoot numbers 255 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:17,440 last season James Harden forty one percent from the outside on threes. Yeah, 256 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:22,240 I just and if you have watched this team and you know how Tyler operates, 257 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,599 he was gonna try both these guys at the same time, right, 258 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,440 Like we've seen him play four way worse point guards together. Why wouldn't he 259 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:36,319 play these two good point guards together. It's also about massaging egos and personalities, 260 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,920 right, Russell Westbrook has sacrificed a lot for this team. He has 261 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,000 played well. He has been playing well in the starting lineup next to Kawhi 262 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:48,119 and Paul George. But I wouldn't be shocked if we see different, a 263 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,160 different starting lineup by the end of this season than we're seeing early on. 264 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,279 When James Harden is in there totally and it's the closing lineup, right, 265 00:18:56,599 --> 00:19:00,880 that's what we're all exactly gonna be looking for. Is who's going to actually 266 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,279 close this game? And Russ at times. We saw it in the Laker 267 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,599 game. Uh three turnovers three of us six came in that fourth quarter. 268 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:14,599 There were some tough moments there and that pasta Zoo shout out to La Clippers 269 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,359 film justin w on Twitter that past to Zoo like he drove straight to the 270 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,920 rim. He dumps it off to Zoo. There's three guys there. It's 271 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,119 a tough shot no matter who's there. There's just yeah, like there's there's 272 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,839 things that can help. By having another guy like Hard, it's just less 273 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:36,119 pressure on everyone else. Who's gonna be running point for the clips. Well, 274 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,240 what do you think? I still in bite everyone's head off mode? 275 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:44,400 You're afraid to say? Is pretty good? By the way, is Dale 276 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:52,799 in the house? Take that from data? I think I think it. 277 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,039 I actually don't love having both of them in the starting lineup. I don't 278 00:19:57,039 --> 00:20:04,880 think that. I think if this is gonna work, Harden is already in 279 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,759 a position where he's gonna have to kind of sacrifice a lot. I think 280 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:14,799 he's gonna have to be comfortable taking more catch and shoot threes. He's gonna 281 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:18,839 have to be more comfortable like moving off the ball, initiating stuff without the 282 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,240 ball in his hands, and I think asking him to do that with another 283 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:26,960 point guard, I don't know that it sets things off on the right foot. 284 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,279 You do kind of run into a problem of okay, but then who 285 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:38,599 is the guy? And I think with no terrance, which we're gonna, 286 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:45,640 yeah, we gotta talk about that, maybe maybe you give Tucker a shot 287 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:52,160 at the at the I mean yeah, at the four he hit the two 288 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,519 next to Harden Harden. I mean, like, you know, Tucker, 289 00:20:57,799 --> 00:21:03,000 the offense it's bad. Are you saying because we don't have Man right now? 290 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,880 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying with man in the I'm 291 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,279 not saying when Man returns to the rotation, but without Man, maybe give 292 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,160 Adam. Adam will keep that receipt. Adam will keep that CVS. Maybe 293 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:19,119 Tucker shot and it's it's sort of what we talk about on you know, 294 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:23,400 an old podcast that won't be named, uh the Gore tot Start, which 295 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,400 is we can say lock clip, No, it's a new era. It's 296 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:36,400 clips and DiPT baby after unhinged clippers baby. Yeah, you guys are losing 297 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,559 your damn But I think for the I think we take a step you know, 298 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:47,720 we're taking a step back with Harden defensively, you know, Russ at 299 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:51,240 least he's like a high effort guy. James can do some things well, 300 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,359 yeah for sure, Yeah, deflections, all that sort of thing. But 301 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,440 I think adding I think bringing in Tucker's bad asset, which is the defense, 302 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,039 and then adjusting from there would be my would be my thing, Like 303 00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:11,720 he's maybe the first sub out. I want to talk about the Terrence thing 304 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,759 because this I feel like because of the trade hull of baloo, unless you're 305 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:19,680 really really following the Clippers and maybe uh in a perhaps unhealthy way, you 306 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,920 missed this part. Should we have an ad break at some point? Fellless, 307 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,519 are we get a couple of weeks? Keep the lights on? Or 308 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:33,200 what I got say in this segment, how dare you will? My god? 309 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,000 Yeah, Adam Adam Adam's hand is going to come into both of our 310 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:41,000 frames somehow and smack will and we gotta have to come right back. We 311 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:45,079 got to talk about Terrence Man and the recent news about his injury and what 312 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,519 that means for the starting lineup ads coming up. They have been a little 313 00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:52,480 loud, but maybe that's fixed now. We don't know. Uh, but 314 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,960 we'll be right back in three two one. Welcome back to the clips and 315 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,920 dip I jumped off Adams toes on there gotcha. We're talking Terrence Man's injury. 316 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,240 I learned that Terrence Man had a podcast today. Uh, he talked 317 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:15,400 about his injury. He said basically along the lines of it was a pretty 318 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,400 tough sprain. He may have tore something. There's no confirmation on that at 319 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:25,519 all, but he's out kind of indefinitely. There's no definitive plan yet. 320 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:30,400 And this means that PJ. Tucker is gonna get a lot more minutes like 321 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,279 we saw in the game against the Lakers. I will say PJ Tucker on 322 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:38,319 the boards, love it, Love PJ. Tucker's effort on the offensive boards. 323 00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:44,000 We needed that everything else offensively. If he's gonna be thrust in this 324 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:48,079 larger role because man is out, I'm a little worried about is it possible, 325 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,599 Like what he just meant, like when there is a sprain, there 326 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,039 are micro tears like we're not because if there was a feel none we don't, 327 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:00,680 but we don't know. There's just no timeline, which I think is 328 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,079 like there's not He's traveling with the team, but law Murray doesn't think he's 329 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,440 going to have any you know, we're definitive start or anything like that. 330 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,720 So PJ. Tucker will be getting time. Can we also say, just 331 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:15,240 traveling back to the Tucker thing, I mean, we are talking about a 332 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,279 guy who was a starter, would have continued to be a starter on a 333 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:23,799 team that was at you know, in the contender circle in the conversation in 334 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,359 the Eastern Conference. So I don't I don't know, like why shipping across 335 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,759 the coast. Look, man, I know that Tucker is not what he 336 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,400 was. He's thirty eight, he's the second oldest player in the I know 337 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,279 that he's not what he was years ago. I know that he's not what 338 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,839 he was even on the when he was on the Bucks. But there's still 339 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,480 you know, like it's it's only it's he's only one season removed from that, 340 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:51,640 right. I'm just I'm just a little worried about the offense. It's 341 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,480 all. I'm a little worried about. It's going to be a pinch, 342 00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:56,599 it's not the whole. We just need these first ten games to go with 343 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,200 Harden, PG and Kawhi. You're worried about the offense, right, that's 344 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,240 what you're worried about. That's what I think. That's the great just with 345 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:04,799 PJ. I mean, you are right, but just with PJ Tucker. 346 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:08,359 It makes it harder lineup around Tucker than that. Like I just can't think 347 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:14,279 of one the center entirely and have him at the five. But I don't 348 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:18,480 think that's we'll start with. Let's not even get into that argument that's going 349 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,640 on on Twitter right now for Clippers fans. Some people think we should start 350 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,720 small, which you can't start it doesn't It just literally never well for remember 351 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,880 when Marcus Morris was taking jump balls when he was good at basketball, Like 352 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:37,720 it was bad even then. I just and I also think that Lakers game, 353 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,400 what a tough position to be thrown it. If you're PJ Tucker, 354 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,640 your first start is against the Lakers. And you know what I thought, 355 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,400 down the stretch he looked a lot better. The boards were huge, and 356 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,559 I talked about this. He was one of the few guys who could cover 357 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,960 somebody without picking up a foul too. Five of his rebounds were offensive rebounds 358 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,079 and he had one off a miss got it out to bones. He would 359 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:03,599 miss a three point or two that could have tied the ball, I thought 360 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:07,279 that one was money. Yeah, Bones just had an off night, as 361 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:12,920 did Norman Powell, partly maybe because one of the effects of them not having 362 00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:18,799 their former lineup and their forwards and also not having James Harden yet coming out 363 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:22,960 of the trade move. Was Norman Powell from the six minute mark of the 364 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:30,240 third quarter, played till he fouled out in overtime, played over twenty straight 365 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,319 minutes on the court. Yeah, and I was surprised by that. So 366 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,119 if you're thinking of guys they were missing, like Terrence Man is soaking up 367 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,000 those minutes, that would have been the guy even without James Harden in that 368 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:47,400 game. If they just had Terrence Man, I think he would have been 369 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,279 huge and very impactful. Maybe Kobe Brown gets more than five minutes, who 370 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,480 knows. You know, some are saying I only played in the first half, 371 00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:56,799 you got Chuck, I get it. Hey, if you want to 372 00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,720 go off about that Bill for Solid, I will say that, No, 373 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,680 I don't keep receipts. No one should keep. You do on me with 374 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,960 John Wall But I guess, uh, well, that's a funny bit. 375 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:15,359 That's a funny for from Three's a funny bit. Yeah, it which is 376 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,599 like the Cripkeeper but even bit like more petty. I guess give me the 377 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:27,680 yeah. Okay, so we're talking Clippers Knicks on Monday. James Harden not 378 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:33,400 official debut, but everyone is saying that that's his probable debut. He played 379 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:41,759 in the classic La Clippers Stay Ready game with the young Players per Tylou Today 380 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,279 the Knicks, Adam, you're doing the show with Andrew Claudio. I feel 381 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:51,200 like this right this Sunday, Yeah, Knicks film School. I think it's 382 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,799 called Yes Knicks Film School. Knicks fans are uneasy about their team right now. 383 00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:00,559 They play the Bucks the night that we're recording this. H R. 384 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,240 J. Barrett has maybe been their best player on both sides of the court. 385 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,839 Jalen Brunson not really efficient, he's volume scoring. Julius Randalls shooting twenty 386 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,759 seven percent on the season, And I will say, if he has a 387 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:17,240 bad game against the Bucks, I'm a little worried about Monday. I'm worried 388 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:21,680 about how he might bounce back if he has another shitty. So Will's point, 389 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,519 they may need more size against the Knicks. They may need PJ. 390 00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:29,960 Tucker to play the four. Yeah against the Knicks. Now, and I 391 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,640 wasn't when we always talked about this summer getting Kawhi Leonard and Paul George to 392 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:40,079 move up positions and play the three and the four more often. My idea 393 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,000 behind that wasn't so much as related to yeah, because you have to have 394 00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:48,920 Russell Westbrook and James Harden the backcourt starting backcourt. At the same time, 395 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:53,880 I was thinking more about Terrence Man next to either Russ or James, not 396 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,920 both of them back there. But it's easier said than don especially you know 397 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,039 Russ. He took four million dollars to come back to this team, and 398 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,640 he's done all these little things to help this team, and now you bump 399 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:17,599 the lineup. I'm sure three bucks. Yeah, I know. Yeah, 400 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,559 I'm a huge fan of PJ. Tucker. Like Will said, he's not 401 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,920 the guy he once was, but as in situations, in certain situations, 402 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,519 as a specialist out there, I think he can help you, especially when 403 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,319 you have Harden, PG and Kawhi already out there to handle things offensively. 404 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:41,680 People complain about he's he's turning down three pointers now and he only took one 405 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,599 against the Lakers and missed I think one shot. I believe it was a 406 00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:49,920 three pointer. Those corner threes aren't coming as frequently, even though he's always 407 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:56,119 shot very well in that spot and did just this past year with the Philadelphia 408 00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:00,799 seventy six ers. I'm not that worried about his offense and actually being a 409 00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:04,039 threat out there. I know that could mean he hurts you with floor spacing, 410 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,799 but it may be a situation on this road trip where you're just needing 411 00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,839 bodies in a veteran presence and a bigger guy, especially against the Knicks. 412 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,839 That's where we're at. I think right like we're shorthanded again. It just 413 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:25,839 kind of as we always are. Losing Terrence is huge. The Clippers shooting 414 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,759 from three has been insane. They're shooting forty two on thirty five attempts per 415 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,279 game, which is like right kind of middle ground for the rest of the 416 00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:40,680 league PG fifty on eight three point attempts per game, and Kawhi is it 417 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,599 forty seven percent on seven three point attempts per game. I hope this keeps 418 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:51,480 some semblance up against the Knicks. I would love for this to continue. 419 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,400 It's depressing that they lost that game where two point three had one of their 420 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,759 best games ever as a duo and they just needed a little more hell from 421 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:03,079 somebody else. It was them two russ scoring, but was just nine to 422 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,319 twenty one. If Bones had his yeah, if Bones had his typical night 423 00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,599 from what we've been seeing with him as a Clipper, they likely win the 424 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,440 ball game. It was that simple. Sure, yeah, Well, and 425 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:22,119 normally us both had ineffishing games. They were both like forty four. Paul 426 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,240 George was heroic in that fourth quarter. Guys twenty points in the fourth, 427 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:32,240 the three field, the three free throws, down nine with about two minutes 428 00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,759 left. That was unbelievable. That would have been one of the ultimate Clipper 429 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:40,000 comebacks, and we've seen a lot of them. The thing about the Clippers 430 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,759 too, in this Knicks game right now, points off of turnovers is kind 431 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:47,599 of a weird stat in the NBA. The Clippers are first with twenty two 432 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,160 points per game off of turnovers, which hey testament to want to run more. 433 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,640 We love that, we love the offseason stuff. Being true, the 434 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,599 Knicks are eight and they're scoring nineteen a game, so we're right there. 435 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,079 Points off of turnovers. If the Clippers can be better than twenty first in 436 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:07,680 the league in turnovers against the Knicks, I like our chances a lot in 437 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:14,160 this game. It's a fair point. You mentioned them pushing the pace. 438 00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:16,160 There was a play early on the first quarter. Yes, Bones had an 439 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,119 off night, but one of his two buckets was him going one on two 440 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,799 down the left side of the lane against Anthony Davis for a little scoop lay 441 00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:29,079 up around him. That's just one of the things I love about Bones, 442 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:31,519 just fearless, like he doesn't care. One of the best defenders in the 443 00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:35,279 league. They don't have an advantage, and he just took it to the 444 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:37,599 basket because they're preaching get out and transition and run and try to get some 445 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,799 easy buckets that way. And I'm not sure what the knicks pace is. 446 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Let me look it up. Real quick. Pace is kind of a weird 447 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:53,880 stat I think this game that would make sense. I'm just looking to see, 448 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,960 like what the roadmap is going to be for these three sort of playing 449 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:07,039 together. And it's really interesting because this matchup, I don't know. This 450 00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:12,480 matchup I think is like the right amount of difficulty, but we create some 451 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,880 unique issues. Weird. They have some size and some things that can kind 452 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920 of throw us off. And plus Brunton is like just a difficult guy to 453 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,359 stay in front of so I think they'll be tested on both ends of the 454 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,720 floor. But it's not like it. You know, it's not an insurmountable 455 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,920 matchup. It's not a Denver or something like that. It's a it's it's 456 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,400 it's a good test of the waters. And you know, you're not expecting 457 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,079 a whole lot from game one, but just seeing that people are sort of 458 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,599 on the same page and we can kind of see you know, you talked 459 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:45,599 about what you have in the notes here, it's like sort of smaller guys 460 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,599 like bones screening for Kawhi, and I feel like that's a rough that's like 461 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,759 the rough draft of if we can see Harden do sort of those things like 462 00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:54,000 if we can see hard and set an off ball screen, if we can 463 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,880 see Harden take a catch and shoot three. I feel like that's really good 464 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,720 process. And you know that that's all you're looking for, That's what I'm 465 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:05,640 looking for. I want just a just a even a glint of cohesion, 466 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,880 a glint of this looking like everybody's on the same page. Everybody know what 467 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,159 knows what they need to do to make this work, and they're willing to 468 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,480 do that even if it doesn't look great out of the gate, Like I 469 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:22,039 just need like it to look like a baby step in the right direction and 470 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,159 they should win this game. Also, let's not like no disructor the Knicks, 471 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,840 but the Clippers are in a better They're playing better basketball than the Knicks 472 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,960 are right now. So I love that point too, Like this is a 473 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:35,079 nice scenario to get everyone, but not, you know, it's not a 474 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,039 walkover. It's not it's you know, you're not gonna you're not gonna walk 475 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,320 in yeah, Like you're just not gonna walk in there, and like, 476 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:45,519 you know, like waltz out with a win. Yeah, especially because in 477 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:50,119 they're one really true road game in Utah, they didn't look great. I'm 478 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,719 interested to see how they start this road trip, uh, and if they 479 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,760 can apply those same principles we've seen at Crypto dot com where everything they've been 480 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,639 talking about during the off season has come into effect there. But the knickser 481 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,920 I believe twenty eighth offensively and second defensively. Uh. And it's only a 482 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,519 handful of games. That's so fun. I love I love an end of 483 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,360 this both ends of the spectrum team. They're also just quick up a twenty 484 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:21,920 seventh in pace so yeah, and the Coppers are what sixteenth in pace, 485 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,920 the middle of the pack. To me, it's one of those games where 486 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,719 when you're making adjustments with top end talent and you're not taking on a top 487 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,519 five team in the league, one of the best teams in the league. 488 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,039 Granted, team that got to the second round last season, and they have 489 00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:45,360 a lot of continuity. The same guys are back, but there's gonna be 490 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,000 wonky possessions, there's gonna be miss cues out there with Harden for the first 491 00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:52,440 time, and you just need your superstars who have been there for a long 492 00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:58,159 time in PG and Kawhi, to raise their level of play when they have 493 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,800 to and overwhelm the Knicks with just having more talent, Like it's not gonna 494 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,920 be It may not be pretty at times, but when they need buckets like 495 00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,239 Kawhi and Paul George just need to continue to play the way they have so 496 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:14,039 far this season, where they have looked spectacular. I mean, we will 497 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:15,679 go as far as those two take us. You kind of talked about it 498 00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:21,320 maybe getting a little ugly. This NIXT team plays very slow. They grab 499 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:27,079 a lot of rebounds. Their second in defensive rebounding percentage, fourth and offensive 500 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:31,039 rebounding percentage and second in total rebounds. So it's not some fluky thing. 501 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:36,760 They're getting a lot of boards. Clippers middle of the pack, twenty first 502 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,960 in total rebounds. We saw the second chance points being issue against Utah and 503 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:44,800 seeding these possessions and things like that. That is where the Clippers get in 504 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,880 trouble in this game. If things don't go Are they still starting PJ? 505 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:51,599 Are they still starting excuse me, Mitchell next to Julius Randall in their front 506 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,960 court? Because if that's the case, I don't mind that matchup for PJ. 507 00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:00,440 Tucker on Julius Randall at all and big Zoo on Mitchell. Yeah, 508 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,400 they're starting. I mean they're pretty much just starting Julius Jalen Brunson, Mitchell 509 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,000 Robinson, Quinn Grimes, and RJ. Berry. Are those who are like, 510 00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:10,039 oh, well, PJ. Tucker's wash. What are you guys talking 511 00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:14,599 about? He hardly ever scores, It's never really been his game. Are 512 00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:19,480 those receipts I see seats coming? Sure many guys have been rejuvenated in a 513 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,079 Clippers uniform. When are we actually going to sell people on hate? It 514 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:27,679 seems like they got a culture over here, guys, it seems like players 515 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,039 like coming here and thrive and play well next to one another. Nicholas Batoom, 516 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:36,320 Reggie Jackson, many thought they were done. They had some of their 517 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,239 best years with the Clippers. So I don't think it's out of the realm 518 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:45,639 of possibility that PJ. Tucker also looks revitalized on this Clippers team to some 519 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,440 degree. I don't think he can play them thirty five minutes all of a 520 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:53,039 sudden anything like that, but situationally, I think he can help. Who 521 00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:57,239 are we looking for a will? What's a Clipper who's not Kawhi, Paul 522 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,000 George or Russell Westbrook that you're looking for to make you help us in this 523 00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,440 we get to look a couple of days off, which is nice. In 524 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,719 this this first East Coast trip, it's gotta be Adam's guy, the guy 525 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,840 who the guy who is single handedly responsible for the for how far the Clippers 526 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:19,719 go on time. Gross mischaracterization. I have said he is somewhat tied to 527 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,559 their ceiling. I have and I do think he is one of the keys 528 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,079 to this season, especially as Chuck always brings up seventeen games of March like 529 00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:30,599 with this schedule, being this agree, I'll even with James Harden. I 530 00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:34,880 still think Bones has to find minutes. If you're talking about pacing yourself during 531 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,519 the regular season and not playing guys that are over extending them too much, 532 00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:43,719 then Bones has to get run out there. I know they have all right, 533 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,159 so sorry, but Will said Bones for this next game? Who are 534 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:51,159 you picking for this next game? Who's not Bones high or Russ or choir 535 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,719 PG. I guess I'll go with PJ. Tucker. I'm stealing that from 536 00:38:53,719 --> 00:39:00,360 Will Bones for me. I'm stealing his idea about PJ Tucker starting all right, 537 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,760 that's fair, I'm going uh. I think James Harden does a very 538 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,480 James Harden thing and maybe has a really good first impression. I think James 539 00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,960 maybe has a good game, and there's a little bit of showcasing going on 540 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,039 by the Clippers, which I'm okay with make him feel a little comfortable. 541 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,480 I think he has a good game in his debut. Yeah, it sounds 542 00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:23,239 like he looked good. Bit of a low blow, but everybody's talking about 543 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,719 the shape he was in. I pulled something from Tyrese Maxi. By the 544 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,599 way, last night I put her at follow out of May on X, 545 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:36,159 But he was talking glowingly about just what a good teammate James Harden was with 546 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,880 them when he was there at training camp and not getting in the way and 547 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:44,039 still helping guys and playing hard when they did practice. And it seems like 548 00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,800 he's in better shape, coach lu said earlier today than they expected him to 549 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,559 be at this point. Well, he had that training camp in Colorado. 550 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:55,239 He like rented a cabin and was doing the rocky thing. Wait when Yeah, 551 00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,679 Harden like rented a cabin in Colorado and had some crazy offseason train anything. 552 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:07,159 He was walking through the snow with tree limbs on his back like he's 553 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,079 ready. He's ready for the He's ready to go to Denver for a playoff 554 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:15,000 series. Yeah, he was in Butte, Montana working out. All right. 555 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:19,559 Coming up, we're all predicting a win. Right. I'm feeling feeling 556 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,119 I said, we split the back to back, but I'm feeling pretty good 557 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:27,840 with this rest going to New York. Yeah, I like it. Good 558 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,800 vibes. Well, yeah, I'm feeling good, feeling good. All right. 559 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,679 Coming up, we're talking the mid season tournament. The Clippers City Edition 560 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,679 was finally revealed. We have to give a shout out to the Clippers Meme 561 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,599 King. But there are some ads coming up. They've been loud for some 562 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:43,719 people. If that's been the case, we go ahead and turn it down. 563 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,039 Ads coming up in three two one. Welcome back in to Clips and 564 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:52,559 Tips season two. I'm at a Mason. We got Chuck Mockler and Will 565 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,880 Updyke here, and as we said earlier, we appreciate all the new listeners. 566 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,760 I don't always get this upset, but when I do, you're gonna 567 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:07,800 hear about it. I've been waiting for that one, so I guess just 568 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,480 wait for a twelve. Well, look, I don't believe in either of 569 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,360 them. It's not enough. But if you believed in ten, I guess 570 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:23,400 you gotta believe in eleven games, right, get enough? So let's talk 571 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:30,960 about something that has people more confused. The mid season tournament. I guess 572 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,360 it's starting soon because they want to compete with the NFL. This is a 573 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,039 dead time typically in the NBA. Well, look, normally people complain and 574 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:44,920 say the NBA doesn't start till December, doesn't start till their big tip off 575 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,719 is on Christmas Day, where they get the whole day to themselves. That 576 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,920 doesn't even happen anymore in the NFL, I think has been getting a game 577 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,719 or a Christmas Eve game, so they want to draw more eyeballs and marketing 578 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,159 wise, Look, the bar is it'll be a little bit more exciting than 579 00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:05,719 you normally are at this point in the regular season. That's all they have 580 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,599 to do. So I don't I don't hate it. I really don't. 581 00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:13,679 I Visa Zoobots was talking about it, like yeah, I mean he's yeah. 582 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,920 So a few different guys have been like, oh cool, we're gonna 583 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,239 play for something else. I like these courts. Kevin Durant. They probably 584 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,840 did some selective editing there, but other guys seem to genuinely be interested in 585 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,880 the different configurations and color patterns for the courts out there. Yeah. I 586 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,880 said on here that I didn't think the court was going to look that blue 587 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,440 in person. I'm retracting that statement that court is going to be blue as 588 00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:43,239 hell in person for the Clippers. Will you hyped on the midseason tournament? 589 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,159 I think it's kind of nicer process wise, we're gonna play these games anyway. 590 00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:52,760 I'm I'm in the same boat as bones. You're confused. I don't 591 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,880 get it. So it's the regular season, but it's also mm hmmm. 592 00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:01,199 You know, I know, like a ton of other sports leagues do this. 593 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,639 I just don't watch them, so I don't really gets It's it's five 594 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:15,920 different uh groups of pool play per conference, and then each conference also gets 595 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,159 a wild card team, so four teams per conference end up going to Vegas, 596 00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:22,840 eight teams, and then it just whittles down to the last two and 597 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,519 that's the only game that doesn't count. That's game eighty three for those are 598 00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,119 the only two teams that play an extra game. Wait, that's part of 599 00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:35,079 the that's part of the Cup. There's like a whittle competition. They got, 600 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,360 Yeah, you make it post, you make whoever can make the best 601 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,079 representation of the turtle that Earth's on the back of. All I can imagine 602 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:52,039 this thing is like it from Major League when they're like ripping the when they're 603 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,159 like the things off the cardboard cutout of the lady, and that's what I'm 604 00:43:55,159 --> 00:44:00,760 imagining happens for every win in the mid season tournament. But it's also a 605 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,320 regular season, I think. But that's also the cutout of Steve Balmer. 606 00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:08,320 It's a Steve Balmer gang of a shirt and they're going and they're ripping off 607 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,920 like a shoulder. Yeah. I don't know if it's going to be as 608 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,239 successful as the plane was, but everybody criticized that to it first, and 609 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,639 it's then we got a game between the Warriors and Lakers and the plane and 610 00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,679 everybody loved it. It was that simple. So yeah, that makes it 611 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,239 just like makes a little bit more sense to me. I think. So 612 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,039 here, here's my only issue with the mid season tournament. I get that 613 00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:36,960 they're I get that they you know, they want viewership up. They're still 614 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,280 trying to somehow compete with football, which I just don't think that's really going 615 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:44,920 to happen. But my issue with the mid season tournament is like, what 616 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,400 does that mean to someone who's not already very into the NBA, Like, 617 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,719 what, like what kind of draw is it? If someone was at a 618 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,320 bar or to tell you, you know, this regular season win is actually 619 00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,880 a part of the mid season tournament and this moves the them in their group, 620 00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:05,239 which was pulled from a pot based on different records. And again, 621 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,719 dude, if someone told me that at a bar, I would throw up 622 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:13,880 and I would leave. All the NBA cares about is that question? What 623 00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:17,360 is the mid season tournament that is enough. The bar is that low that 624 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,920 it just peaks interest to find out what it is that's enough to make a 625 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,000 difference. They're not. It doesn't mean they are all of a sudden gonna 626 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,079 take over the NFL. NFL is king. Don't let perfect be the enemy 627 00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:31,920 of good. It's just if the ratings are slightly better because of this n 628 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:40,559 season tournament. That's a win for mid season tournament, everybody. There's costumes. 629 00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:45,280 Winner of the three game series. You play a three game series against 630 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:51,079 a Pacific Division team, all right, I'm a winner gets to choose the 631 00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:57,639 losers costumes that they have to wear for the next three games. I think 632 00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:02,960 it's more NBA spooky seas. The Clippers City Edition jerseys were finally revealed. 633 00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,719 Hey, here's an update. Uh, here's what's new that we found out 634 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,920 based on what I looked at. Nothing the other merch I think looks really 635 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,159 good though. There's a there's a gray sweatshirt that just says Clippers basketball and 636 00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:20,599 it's what's the name of the artist against Charles Jonas. It's the Jonas Wood 637 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,239 basketball design. I I could, I can. I'm probably gonna buy that. 638 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:29,360 I can see myself buying that. Okay, okay, yeah, it 639 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,559 looks good on the players. Uh, but no, no backstory other than 640 00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,239 than he's a season ticket holder and he took an inspiration from the nautical theme 641 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:44,519 from the seventies and eighties Clippers jerseys, which is fairly perceptible. It's barely 642 00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:49,800 perceptible. You're not wrong, it's very If they didn't, if they didn't 643 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,159 send a print out with like, oh the little piping on this is an 644 00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:57,800 homage to the nautical San Diego Clippers, I would have no fucking idea. 645 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:04,480 My argument was, if your jersey's complete backstory can be figured out off of 646 00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:09,199 a leak with no missing details, it's not interesting enough to be a jersey, 647 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:14,119 a special edition jersey, especially with what last year's. Let Eric design 648 00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:16,559 the jersey. Just just yes, Steve Bomber, you have the money, 649 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,239 figure out a way to get the in and out jerseys. Yes, Eric, 650 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,400 we have to give Eric we a shout out for the drawing. He 651 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,880 did yet another drawing for Clips and Dip. It's over on Twitter. We're 652 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,480 gonna use it. We have it as our profile pick. We also might 653 00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,360 have it as our banner. We got a really good crop of what it 654 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,840 looks like is the banner over on Twitter dot com slash at clippers pot. 655 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,880 But he makes the good vibes jankie drawing, go follow him on ideas. 656 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,199 He also makes very legitimate like all sorts of He makes the spectrum of art. 657 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,400 Yes, Adam, you have looked like No, we should make that 658 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,239 like part of our crusade to make sure at some point he gets to do 659 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,840 one of the alternate jerseys in some year he should make that. I mean 660 00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:01,760 podcast he's given hats to Paul George like they wear his hats on podcast p 661 00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:07,280 Like, it's kind of to me, like why no team has like done 662 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,880 an official They've done merch, but they haven't done an official NBA paint jersey. 663 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,239 And I just don't know why you wouldn't write it. It's fun. 664 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,280 It'll see. We're gonna be back, I believe with a double dip on 665 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,719 Monday. If Adam will let one of us on the radio again, we 666 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,400 could do that, depending on he's gonna be too busy talking about the sample 667 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,800 size. He's gotta yell about sample size to every caller. He's pretty booked. 668 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,480 You guys are more mad about that than people who are hypocritical about it. 669 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:37,079 I'm just trying to shed some light on it. That's all just about 670 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,880 it interesting. We'm gonna try and do a full time podcast a week. 671 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,039 Just funny. Could be the move, uh, Adam, can we get? 672 00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:46,119 Can we get a positive thing to say? We're also well, where 673 00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:49,719 can these people find us or tell their family to listen to us? It's 674 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,719 holidays, you're gonna have to talk about something Michael talking about. Yeah, 675 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,119 so you can listen to us anywhere you get your podcast. We're on Spotify, 676 00:48:55,159 --> 00:49:00,760 We're on Apple Podcast, We're on Amazon Music, Google Podcasts. Like 677 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,400 I said, anywhere you listen to it, we should be there. If 678 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,159 we're not, let us know. Go ahead like and subscribe. If you're 679 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,800 watching this on YouTube if you're not yet, check us out. That's YouTube 680 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:15,400 at Clippers Podcast. Yeah, we bring you the viits multiple times a week 681 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,719 and you can chop it up with us at any point over on Twitter. 682 00:49:20,159 --> 00:49:22,480 That's at clippers Pod. Adam, I kick it to you. What is 683 00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:27,079 a positive thing to send us out on on this fine Friday. I'm just 684 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:30,800 a big believer in coach lou making things work and putting guys in a position 685 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,440 to succeed. How many times do we have to see it? I just 686 00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:38,960 Harden isn't John Wall who just unfortunately didn't have much left. James Harden still 687 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,000 has a ton. He's not coming off an achilles a freak achilles tear. 688 00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:50,119 Yeah, and his playmaking. I think people are gonna be shocked because most 689 00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:53,079 people just you know, kind of put him in a box and say he's 690 00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:57,840 the dribbler and he just wants to play one on one isolation basketball. I 691 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,360 think you are going to be pleasantly surprised when you see some of the dimes 692 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:06,719 he's chopping out there for the Clippers. Pleasantly surprised by the dimes. Always 693 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,039 a good time. We will be back with y'all soon, and as always, 694 00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:10,400 let's go clips.