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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera, He's Jakin's also got
a guy Jason in today working machines.

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Hopefully everything will go okay today.
We did okay yesterday though, didn't we

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except for the stepper didn't come on
at the start. We didn't know what

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one of the buttons was not pressed. Okay, cool, Cool, It's

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Wednesday. It's hot at the beginning
of the summer. Yeah, it's getting

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hot. Sucks, it is what
it is. Let to see you.

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Jason. Wasn't sure you'd be here
after last night's Denver win. Yeah,

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I'm not worried about it, so
I am. Yeah, I am.

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Good game last night. Yeah,
but you know, um, you know,

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Denver got out on them big.
But the you know, the Roaring

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Back, the Lakers stayed with it
and gave themselves, gave them was a

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chance to win. Darn hand man. Some adjudgments. So that was good

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to see some in game adjustments let
the Lakers come back into the game.

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So you kind of feel almost like, even though the Lakers are down you

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know, one zip, it was
almost a win a win win situation for

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them because the Lakers, you know, they were getting blown out then didn't

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get blown out. So certainly they
have to feel good about that. You

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know, you're supposed to lose on
the road in the playoffs and so,

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um, you know, I'm I'm
thinking the Lakers feel pretty decent about themselves

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the way they came back, and
then obviously Denver feels good because they won.

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Yeah, I would say so.
Obviously there's no more victories than playoffs.

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But I think all things considering,
the Lakers feel pretty good about where

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they're at. Um, they were
able to you know, close the gap

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in the game to make it a
you know, respectable loss, and so

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I think they feel pretty good.
They beat the point spread. I bet

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they feel good about that defense.
Who better. Yes, Yeah, that's

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why you didn't bet it unless you
guided at six, right, because it

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was the line was six and a
half that I saw right before the game.

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I didn't do anything with it.
Steve. I, I you know,

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I let you off the hook.
I figured with about two minutes stuff.

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I said, Damn Jay, he
probably pulled the trigger on something.

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He's got some bad mojo. I
know you thought that, dude, Jason,

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Yeah, I thought it might go
out my favorite but you know,

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yeah, well you were hoping for
the way. Yeah, the kiss of

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death hit one of my fantasy pictures. Today, Dust and May for the

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Dodgers, came out, came out
with a he had you know, he

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had Tommy John surgery last year,
and he came out with a painful right

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elbow. So haven't said, you
know what the deal is. But he

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came out in the first inning,
so he can even last long. Another

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another one bites the dust, another
one bites the DUTs. Okay, okay,

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so we got two minutes. If
you want a call. We have

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a pretty good show today, eclectic
show. Uh should be fun. It

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should be fun. Jan Yeah,
we talked to him about three four weeks

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ago. Right, we talk about
the season opener. Now, I'm interested

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about being an owner in the FC
two song. Right, they put a

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thing out on social media that you
can invest in the team, you can

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be a part owner. Well,
ask him, you know what do you

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get with that? Right? Right? And uh, you know and and

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and you know what's really what's the
purpose? You know, what are they

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doing this? You know, is
it a Green Bay Packers thing where they

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just want the community to be invested
in it. Yeah, you know,

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it's probably not an opportunity to you
know, make any money if you're an

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investor, but it's an opportunity to
raise money for them because people say,

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you know, all these people who
are part owners of the packers, they

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don't make any money off. Yeah, they don't get any pro They can

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just say they've got a you know, I want a thing on the wall

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that says I'm a part owner.
They get discord of tickets something we'll check.

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I don't know, we'll see,
but we'll see what all that means.

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But yeah, he's uh, they're
listening, uh for people to invest

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in in a FC two soon.
Also ask him about this, this women's

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pro soccer team and does FC two
soon have anything to do with that?

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Uh? USL women's Pro team coming
to coming to Tucson. Okay, I

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didn't know that. You didn't see
that. I got announced At the same

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time a couple of days ago.
I don't, I don't, I don't.

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I don't think you got put out
as an FC two song, okay,

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or if it is, that's not
how I read it. It's just

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I don't know if it's a separate
franchise or we'll ask okay, cool,

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cool. And then in the second
hour, we're gonna have the Jay Perry,

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a female. She runs the committee
to the CEO, the female jed,

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I made a mistake when you know, um Andrew Andy. Uh,

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he's a friend of but forget to
beg now Yeah, okay, So so

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he's ahead of a PR guy.
So he sent me this note. Do

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you want to have her on?
I said, oh, jay on?

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I think sure? Let him know. No, No, her name is

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Jay Perry. Yeah. So former
of the Super Bowl, right, she

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ran the she ran the last super
Bowl host commedie and now she's running the

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final four host commedie. So you
know, just continuing to work. You

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know, how do you get that
job right? How do you get right?

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But that's what's the career ladder jobs
they do that The super Bowl is

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pretty big deal and this one.
See what they have planned because she was

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in town today to talk I guess
maybe do some pr stuff in the in

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the community. So we'll see a
ball all about that. She's gonna call

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him maybe ten minutes or so.
Yep, Um, so that'd be fun.

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That'll be fun, and then we'll
take your calls. A lot of

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interesting breaking news locally that has some
local stuff to it. Uh. You

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didn't go to the baseball today,
did you? There was a they had

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a press cover with Chip Hale,
Uh to talk about what's going on.

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Um, maybe maybe we'll see what's
going on tomorrow. They got a big

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series against the USCA. Again.
You gotta win. They gotta win.

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They got they're just trying to get
into the packed off tournament because there's only

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nine teams get in and they're tied
for ninth place right now with Cal you

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know, so, uh, you
know, they gotta get They just gotta

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get in the tournament to have any
shot. But you know, I I

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think you know, I think it's
pretty as they gotta win the tournament.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know to do it, they're not

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gonna get in that kind of like
probably the women's the women, Um,

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I always we're gonna have hikey on
tomorrow. I don't know how all couches,

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but I probably asked ask you the
questions like how we do um,

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And I've said this to you,
Jane, I think you've agreed with me.

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I thought the fall sports were the
anchor sports and made this universe.

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She kind of come back feeling a
feeling of a nice comeback right over the

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last few years, right, not
this year. No, it's been a

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struggle, you know, um,
you know, I mean the basketball team

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did great but then left a bad
taste and everybody, yeah, and women's

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women's as well, and then you
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signature spring sports baseball and softball haven't
done well. Tracks done okay, Golf,

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tennis, Yeah, all those teams
did okay. But you know when

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you hang your hats sort of on
baseball and softball in the spring and then

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they don't do well, that's kind
of how people see it, right,

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right, So there you know what
happens. You know, I can't.

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I always have a bad hair day
every now and again. Well you don't

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have much left though. It's a
bad hair days. You know, you

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can't look good all the time.
Well you can. We don't take well,

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we don't, right, we don't. It's hard it's it's it's hard.

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I'm pam way past that. That's
what SI would admitted a hat exactly.

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Okay, so we'll talk to he
keep about it tomorrow. Anybody want

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to call in, please do.
We didn't getting calle yesterday. But what

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are we talking about yesterday? Baby? Ask you? Uh? Or you're

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a fan, You're a kid,
you have all the he loves everything.

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Uh, like I'm not a sports
fan. We talked about that Jay's a

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fan. We had that. We
had the discussion about, you know,

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what's the definition of a sports fan? And do you are you a sports

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fan of what teams? Kind of
you don't what I'm saying that sports are

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you not? Or are you not
because you don't want to meet your heroes.

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That's what I kind of explained to
people what we can what we're at

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think where we settled was it Steve
said, he's he keeps saying he's not

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a sports fan, but because he's
not a fan of a spe specific team.

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I said, but if you watch
sports and you have fun watching sports,

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and you fall, you watch college
football, you watch NFL, you're

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a sports fan. You're just not
a sports fan of a team. I

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don't have an NFL team that I'm
fan, but I'm still a huge NFL

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fan. Yeah, because he's got
juice. He's got juice, right,

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well, yeah, but still you
have no Yeah, I was a huge

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fan. You watch games because you
have to put juice. Oh, I

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would still watch the NFL. Okay, Okay, I have said the story

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that I really wasn't a big fan
of the super Bowl until we started.

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Okay, going to a sports book
and making bets on proposition, bet your

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honor, I rest my case,
the defense rest. I give you that

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much. I give you that so
you understand. Yeah, but you're I

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used to love I got into this, miss because I was your age.

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I love this stuff. You get
to go games for free to feed you.

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But yeah, and then all of
a sudden, I met my heroes

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and I sell crap. I don't
want to do this anymore. Okay,

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I guess that's un terrible. But
you're you're you know you're a fan though

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even yeah, you don't feel like
you're a fan. I don't need to

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be a fan of a specific team. I think if you just love the

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sports in general, it could be
a sports fan. You don't have to

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which I again I submit that you
would not be here doing this show if

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of course, big of course,
that I have all that, all that

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to be us in my back,
in my head that I have to get

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if you and I both know neither
one of us are making enough money in

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us for us to put the time
and effort we do into this. Sure,

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if we didn't love sports. Sure, And you know, we talk

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a lot of crap, and we
talk a lot of crap. People know,

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we talked a lot. Had some
fun conversation with my legal team talking

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about, oh yeah, the Delora
thing, what are the varying we are

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the varying No, they just they
you know, the question is what the

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hell happened in Hawaii? Oh right, And that's always going to be the

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case. If you have if you
have you know, you have one side

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saying that he pleaded guilty to a
sexual assault. You have another side saying

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he did not plead guilty and he
was not convicted of a sexual assault.

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You know what's going on. And
then the discussion was, you know what

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we already said. Unless somebody unseals
the record, you're never gonna know,

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correct, And so everybody just got
to get used to it. This is

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how it's gonna sit. You watch
enough dating lines, I DS all these

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channels to know that there's two sides
to its story and the one that can't

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be told is the sealed right exactly, And so it's just gonna stay the

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way it is. And uh,
if you're unhappy with that, then you're

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unhappy with it. And there's that's
you're just gonna have to suck it up

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and be unhappy with it. And
I think a lot there's people are unhappy

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with the people because what did I
mean, Steve, something did happen?

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Oh yeah, yeah, right,
well you know something did happen? Question?

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You know the question? You know, it's it's really semantics. Well

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did he plead guilty to a crime
or not? Right? So we'll see.

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But yeah, I think it's just
gonna hang out there. And you

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know, we had that conversation that
a smart thing to do would you just

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come out one time, answer all
the questions and then that's gonna wrap it

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up into a little box and put
it and put it away, Yeah,

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without question, without question, And
maybe that happens, maybe it doesn't.

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We'll see what happens. Okay,
So if you don't talk about all that

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with sports being a sports fan.
Blah blah blah. Uh, give us

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a call. We're gonna have um
um John Jonathan Perlman on the end about

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ten minutes or anything else going on. We started, I don't want to

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get into your breaking news start,
uh, because there's a lot. Yeah,

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yeah, there there is. Well, you know, okay, I'll

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leave I'll leave that one out.
Funny conversation too, we had about Jordan

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Geist when you asked him about and
I am, oh, yeah, yeah,

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yeah right now. He said,
I didn't really get anything and how

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we call him how? He said, oh, that's a football and basketball

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thing. I thought that was a
very telling comment about that, because arguably

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Jordan Geist is the most accomplished athlete
in the Arizona athletic program. Right,

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well, I totally agree, right, I mean you can talk to Laney

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Chanelle's you know, an olympian.
Um really, who who else is up

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there? Yeah? Individually? No? Right? Even football? Yeah,

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yeah, in any other sports,
you know, arguably the most. And

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yet you know, you hear rumors
that guys like you know, uh Cresn

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and Tabellas and Cedric Henderson and Gordon
Raemy were getting hundreds of thousands of dollars,

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rumors, rumors, rumors, rumors, and yet a guy like Jordan

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Guist, who maybe bringing as much
in terms of honors to the program is

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just kind of like not anything.
I'm going totally get it. I totally

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get it. So so Jason,
if we're playing football, you're the center

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on the quarterback, you're blocking for
me. I get fifty thousand dollars,

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you get five. You're a little
pissed, of course. Yeah, totally.

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We talked about that. Yeah,
yeah, and that you wonder if

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that's gonna happen, if that's gonna
kind of be a growing thing in the

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NIL world, you know, and
then what what you know, does somebody

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like Jordan Guist right who he's finishing
up his careers, you know, but

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I just use him as an example. Let's say he's two years into it,

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he's let's say he's won a national
championship, a bunch of pack wall

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championships, and he's really not getting
anything, and all of a sudden,

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here comes Oregon, you know,
says hey, you know what, come

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on over, our program will get
you, you know, twenty five thousand

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dollars per semester. Yeah, who
would you take that. Why do you

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think the girls, the girls maybe
have left UCLA and other and those guys

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who went to USA. Would you
blame them? No, No, I'm

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gonna give you a raise to go
from IBM to Z Rocks whatever. Yeah,

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I've talked. My resignation has been
tendered. I'll be right there.

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I couldn't get out of the door
fast enough at the Star when I got

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two weeks better job. Don't worry
about it. I've done that. I

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mean it was like a Tuesday,
and they said two weeks from Tuesday?

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Is it right? Right? You
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it go to a Friday or something. Yeah, no, of course,

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because you don't what They're gonna replace
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You know. That's just the way
the world is. Right in there.

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No, that example, it fits
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especially to the to the guys like
the guys and the tennis players who have

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been fantastic, and you know,
and and Kenzie Foller said it without saying

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it that Oklahoma has a stranglehold on
college softball. And why is that right?

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Because they've got resources to uh,
you know, to pass around and

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and other other programs do not who
knows what softball is getting if anything?

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Yeah, right right, so and
if you you know, if you can

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go to and an LSU or you
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even if you're gonna get just a
little bit, jay, you're gonna go.

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There's a reason why Kendrea got out. There's a reason why Rudio got

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out. Uh and coach Slope has
got out way before all this. But

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he probably he would not have a
deal with this crap. He would not

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have come on, would you you? And then you have a quarterback or

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whomever position players saying I just hated
the fact that when I was coaching high

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school baseball, one of our best
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wanted to play basketball, you know, twelve big ball, one side of

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the year, Like, what the
hell? Well, you know, I

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got I got a chance. I
said, you don't have a chance at

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anything. Okay, you're five foot
six, you're Mexican, and you can't

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shoot okay, which means you can't
jump. Your dream crushing you, you're

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a dream crushing Yeah. How do
I know this? Because I'm that guy.

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I was you you look what I'm
doing. All right, let's get

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out of here. We're gonna come
back with Jonathan Prolo, who's going to

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the things going on at FC two.

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So you want to buy part of
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how are you hem great to talk
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we've we've found you intriguing and what
are you doing over there? FC two

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song? First of all, you've
already played one or two. We've played

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three, actually two families in one
league. Okay, how did that league

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match? Good to draw on the
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front of a good crowd at Redlands, which is a good new team,

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and we were happy. I mean, obviously going on the road, it's

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always great to get a point or
three. Um, I think we had

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some opportunities to win, but definitely
for us early in the season going on

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the road and getting a tough point
against actually a really big crowd there,

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which was great to play in front
of. We're really happy with that result.

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Okay, cool, So John,
We're we're curious about where are you

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going on? What's going on with
these selling pieces of the team. Yeah,

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I mean we've done a lot going
on, so you know, basically,

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what we wanted to do is give
people the opportunity to you know,

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be not just a fan and be
an owner. So lots of local teams

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do this and it's done been done
across the world. So we're offering a

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you know, up ten percent of
what we've done at FC two, son

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Um and our in our company Arizona
Soccer holdings to people who want to be

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uh, want to be connected in
that way. So I mean again,

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our fans, you know, are
so important to us, our long time

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supporters, and you know, if
they want to be part of that,

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they can check out the rays we're
doing there um on start Engine UM.

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So we're very excited about that.
And all those details are right there on

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our website and on the start Engine
website. So give us a quick rundown.

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What do investors get? Yeah,
I mean so because of SEC final

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filings, I can't really talk too
much about that kind of how that works.

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Everything is detailed very clearly on the
on the site, but there's some

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some perks. There's some opportunities there. But what they do is they're again

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they have you known, official stake
in the team, UM, which is

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exciting. And again you know,
fan ownership is something that uh, you

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know is done across the world.
And you know, what we're trying to

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do is again strengthen our our ability
to uh do business and help all the

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organizations and help our team be as
good as it can be. So I

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mean, really that opportunity laid out
there for our fans is uh something that

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we were We've been sure, we've
been striving towards and uh we're excited to

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offer that. You know, we
we've for years we've always heard about you

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know the Green Bay Packers are you
know, uh owned by you know,

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their fans and stuff like that.
Is this similar to that or how was

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it? How was it the same
and how is it different? I'm not

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sure exactly how the packers set it
up. UM. This is UM this

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is a little bit different. It's
structured in a way. And again what

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I would the best way I could
say a Jay is, uh, you're

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investing in the future of the team. UM. With investments like these,

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like any type of you know,
risk you might take on a new product

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or on somebody that's trying to expand
their business. I mean they're there's certainly

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uh, you know, opportunities there, but I mean I think the Packers

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may be different and there's a set
of voting rights and they might have some

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decision making, but ultimately, you
know, we wanted to give a chance

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for people to have a piece of
the team and not just be you know,

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just a season ticket. Over where
that goes we can't say, and

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we're actually not allowed to say,
but all the details of every fine I

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detailing you can imagine is available at
the link that we have on our website.

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I'm sorry to be sounding on there
and and not really being direct.

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It's it's kind of set up in
a way where you know, we have

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things that we can talk about.
What it is is a great opportunity.

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We'd love people to check it out. Every point in detail and piece of

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that is laid out there and you
can ask further questions on the website.

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But most importantly for us, we
love our fans. People have asked about

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us doing something like this. Each
each one of these within teams has done

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differently. I mean the Sounders can
you know, can vote out there their

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chairman and do things like that.
It's not set up that way, but

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um, you know, suddenly there's
an opportunity to be deeperly, more deeper

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involved in what we're doing NFC.
Well, that's gonna say. It's just

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basically a chance to be a more
part of the team than otherwise, you

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know, than like you said,
than just being a season ticket holder or

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whatever. And listen, we're very
happy to have season ticket holders. We're

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very happy to people that come to
a couple of games a year because they

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loved sports entity. Obviously, on
Saturday, we're doing Teachers Appreciation Day,

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so we're excited about the fact that
we were able to give, you know,

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five hundred tickets away to all various
school districts across Pema County. And

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you know, we just want people
to know how much we appreciate our teachers

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and appreciate our fans, and obviously
we'll look to get another win. So

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I was going to buy part of
the team only because I want to tell

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you know, Jonathan, I owned
part of the team, and that striker

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wasn't in the right position. Yeah, I think that's the big challenge when

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you do something like this, and
obviously there there are you know, different

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levels of investment in this piece,
but I hear that anyway, give you

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one to pony up down and demand
justice for me. I'm very accessible.

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I stand in the crowd. People
do that with doing best in anyway.

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People yell at, yelled everything you
could costly imagine me. And all I

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care is that three thousand people show
up to yell at me everything, and

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if they do, I'll do my
best, get pelted whatever it needs to

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be pelted with, to answer every
question possible, and if they demand justice,

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I'll give it to them the best. You ever feel like a little

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league coach or a high school coach
with that stuff and the parents are just

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yelling at you all the time.
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they don't, because then there's no
passion, there's mistaking. But it's always

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the balance, isn't it. I
Mean, nobody wants to see ultras going

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and attacking their coach, jumping on
the field. Nobody wants to be booed

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out of the stadium like that can
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it's that connection to the community, elicits

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that reaction. So while you don't
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uh, you know, positive and it

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makes you know. I want to
be challenged all the time. I'm challenged

408
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by you, guys. I'm challenged
by the media. I'm challenged by my

409
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own self, my own drive,
challenge d But ultimately, listen, I'd

410
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rather have overly passionate fans to complain
than fans that are just in different and

411
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don't show up. Yeah, apathy
is the killer of death. So you

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want to ask him about the women. Yes, So we saw the announcement

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that there's a pro women's soccer team
moving into Tucson. Does that have any

414
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connection to it to you guys or
what's that? What's that all about?

415
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Yeah? So for us that what
that's about is Jeff Arnold and I,

416
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who both own FC two Soon,
have bought a franchise for the USL Women's

417
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Super League and it's an incredible moment
um. We own both FC two Son

418
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and the WPSL fctwo Son. But
this is a effort denture with of course

419
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a lot of connection that will be
made later, but just to clarify that

420
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:08.799
it is a New Denture. But
it's one that we've been focusing towards as

421
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an ownership groups, as a team, as a partner, and there'll be

422
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other people being added to that group
as well. But this moment is a

423
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key moment for Tucson where Tucson will
now have a team of a women's team

424
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and we haven't had a women's pro
team for about twenty years. And you

425
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talk about the Arizona Heat Softball and
I think not that many people remember that,

426
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but we're talking about a women's team
that's competing at the Division one sanctioned

427
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level, and that's the intention of
the league, which means that our team

428
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is playing in the most popular sport
in the world at the highest level you

429
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can be sanctioned. And with Phoenix
Rising having a team in the league as

430
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well, we're going directly against the
pro teams from Phoenix. We're not a

431
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Triple A, we're not a level
below. We are going against playing at

432
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the highest level and have a chance
to play any team across the world that's

433
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at that same level, whether it's
Chelsea women or Club America from Mexico's women's

434
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team, or you know, any
of the other teams that you're that are

435
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well known with national team players in
this country and be able to complete at

436
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that level and have that in Tucson
is an opportunity that we think we couldn't

437
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miss. There's one hundred and three
professional men's soccer team in this country and

438
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this twelve women's team, So it's
not equal. That doesn't provide enough opportunity

439
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.799
for the number of great players,
considering the number of World Cups that we've

440
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won and how great we do in
the world stage. So we just see

441
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an opportunity, and we know we
have a community that has incredible female sports

442
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:45.039
history through the uf A, incredible
female leadership throughout our government and our state,

443
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.200
and we just felt the time was
right. Well, what's the timeline

444
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.279
for this team? When when will
we see that? That team will take

445
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:57.279
off in August twenty four and they're
on a what's called the international schedule al

446
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:02.039
they'll run from September the way through
June. There's a break in the winner

447
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:06.400
because some of the markets obviously don't
have our fantastic weather. But the great

448
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.200
news for us is we can continue
on. We have our fantastic preseason.

449
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.599
You know, we have opportunities to
host friendly games and we really are just

450
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.759
going to dig in deep to a
market I think that's been sorely understood in

451
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.640
this country and in this community.
So it won't impact the FC two soon

452
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.160
women now or moving forward. No, the best thing you can do is

453
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.319
support FC two some some women.
We're always going to have a platform that's

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plea pre professional so that you know, in the clubs here, players that

455
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are from two Son that are playing
college soccer can come back and represent their

456
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city and do well. That's never
going to change where we decide to play

457
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.119
that as an ownership group, you
know, may alter a bit, but

458
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.480
there's always going to be that opportunity
to both on the men's and women's side,

459
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and as we pursue men's professional we
will always keep that as well.

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Because what you need really to be
successful in the long term is that full

461
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.240
integrated pathway where you can start playing
soccer and two son at three and finish

462
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.000
his career playing at the highest level
possible professional Lewson should that be their dream?

463
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.640
You know, looking at I'm just
sitting here thinking about all the you

464
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.920
know, all the local well the
local sports that we have, right,

465
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.480
You've got that, You've got you
guys got the Sugar Skulls, You've got

466
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.880
the Bowl Game, the Tucsons,
Saros. You know, baseball, you

467
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:26.359
know, they bring some Mexican baseball
up here. Soccer seems to be you

468
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.680
know, I growing up here,
I felt like Tucson was a baseball town

469
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.359
when it came to professional sports.
But what you guys are doing with soccers

470
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.920
really seems to be overtaking that.
Partly because there's no spring training year,

471
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.039
but you guys have seen maybe seeing
that as an opportunity to kind of be

472
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.480
the ones leading the way out there
a little bit. Yeah, we really

473
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.880
believe, I mean, the growth
of the game in this country, the

474
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.480
growth of the women's game in this
country and across the world, and you

475
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:59.000
know, the weather we have in
the our proximity to Mexico, the fantastic

476
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.960
fields that have been essiting by p
MC County in the city. You know,

477
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.759
we really see that opportunity and again
getting it right and getting it perfectly

478
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.759
right with local owners and local partners
and local support. And really I think

479
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.720
it's just so critical and I'm so
lucky, and I tell you guys,

480
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:21.119
among them, the media has tried
to cover us and tried to tell the

481
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:25.960
story the best thing can you guys
ask such insightful questions, And my job

482
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.559
is to make sure I'm telling people
why this is special, why this opportunity

483
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.839
is great for the community, what
it gives back to the community. And

484
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.200
again, we're just We're just happy
to tell the story. And we have

485
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.680
so much more to tell on this
new piece, but you know, we're

486
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.279
really focused on right now. We'll
be doing a lot of work behind the

487
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.880
scenes for that team, but for
the summer, it's supporting these fantastic athletes

488
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.559
that we have on two so an
FT two some women who are currently unbeaten,

489
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.799
and the women get to kick off
on the second and the third,

490
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.960
and we're just we're just trying to
do great summer programming that people can enjoy

491
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:00.599
for a reasonable price. So,
so, Jonathan, you and I have

492
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.200
known each other for a long long
time, obviously with the kids, But

493
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.680
did you ever imagine I don't know
how old are you, about fifty forty

494
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:15.880
something, I'm I'm drinking milk,
Stephen, pretty good, good for you.

495
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.839
I did do that. So when
you're in your twenties, when you

496
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.599
knew each other, did you ever
imagine this getting to this point in your

497
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.319
life. No, you know I
didn't, Steve, and I'll tell you

498
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.880
this, and it's it's true.
I'm also still going out there and coaching

499
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.640
this year, you know, I'm
back to coaching a U twelve team in

500
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.400
the Old Club. The realities.
I came here originally from law school and

501
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:43.279
I ended up getting my teaching certification. I love working with kids. I

502
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.759
love working with young people. I
like inspiring them. For me, that

503
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.960
so that was always enough. But
when opportunities knocked and I thought I had

504
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.039
something to offer, I've always pushed
myself to do as much as I possibly

505
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.680
can for the people I care about
in the community that I care about.

506
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:02.119
So ultimately, it's not really personal
ambition so much as my ambition for the

507
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.160
community. I mean, certainly I
want to be good at whatever I do,

508
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:10.319
but I'm what I love doing is
facilitating opportunities for talented people. And

509
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:15.160
there's so many talented people here in
Tucson. There's so much opportunity that Tucson

510
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:21.359
needs to realize of itself. I
think it's not even operating at the full

511
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.279
capacity of the kind of city that
it can be without having growth. It's

512
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:29.839
un control and making it like Phoenix
which we're so different from. But I

513
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.000
think there's a place for this sports
team. I think there's a place for

514
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:36.200
pro soccer. I think we have
to do it thoughtfully with people in the

515
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.880
community. And again I'm a huge
it can be in conjunction with these other

516
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.359
great sports properties like the Sugar Salls, like the U of A, and

517
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:49.799
in complimentary moments, it's us elevating
each other and promoting each other, and

518
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.359
that's what we intend to do.
Yeah, okay, nice Nice. Next

519
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.400
is running for office, Like I
say, incredibly well said, you gotta

520
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.119
you know, you know, get
yourself a stadium and yeah, you know,

521
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.799
oh yeah, listen, these these
things are all in process and for

522
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.280
us, the announcement was critical for
the league, but you know, for

523
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:13.880
FC Tucson in this new Super League
property, we were very much focused on

524
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:15.760
what we're doing, you know,
micro with the team here, making sure

525
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.000
that's excellent. But you know,
the announcement came down, I wanted to

526
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.880
make sure I was available to everybody. But yeah, all that stuff is

527
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.639
in processing. You're gonna start,
We're gonna reach out again as we get

528
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.599
into August and September. S we
sort through these things so we can tell

529
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.159
people, who's going to be on
the team, where, what's it called?

530
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.199
Where we're gonna play, because those
are the questions that are reasonable.

531
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.320
But all those things are being worked
on. But when the league is making

532
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:47.480
the watershed announcement likeness like the USL
did, obviously we want. But we're

533
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.119
planning thoughtfully and carefully, and there's
so much more to come. And h

534
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.239
I'm always happy to get on the
radio here at fourteen fifteen and tell you

535
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.199
guys about it. Great and Okay, thanks so much, John, thank

536
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.880
you, Jonathan. All. I
hope to see everybody out there's on Saturday

537
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:06.360
after the teacher sad O can't tell
me time by time again? Sick more

538
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:12.920
time gates eleven thirty this Saturday.
So looking forward to fantastic. Okay,

539
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.239
thank you, Jonathan, appreciate you. Jonathan Perlman noting for a long time

540
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I didn't know he's going to law
school. Smart dude. Smart dude can

541
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tell you, smart dude. Yeah, and some lawyers aren't smart dude because

542
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he's a smart dude, right,
And it doesn't act like he's the smartest

543
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one in the room. Right.
That's that's that's the cool thing. Yeah,

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A humble guy loves coming on herselves. Yeah, I was talking about

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Sport Team fifteen. Hey, welcome
back to watching about here on Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve jas here
with us today a Wednesday. It's funny.

593
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We stand here, it's kind of
cool. We got outside of it,

594
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you know, it's funny like yesterday
and we walked out. It was

595
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like because that when you walk out
from coal to Hotti, you get those

596
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tingles. Yeah, it's really weird. But then you get by the time

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you get to your car, your
sweating and saying all you're shiny and stuff,

598
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and we're saying, what the heck
is going on exactly? Hey,

599
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if you don't want to call,
please do. If you want to call,

600
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.440
you do five two oh foe seventy
four forty. We promise we'll keep

601
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.440
an eye on the call. We
haven't heard from Howard, so I think

602
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.320
we're who knows. I don't think
Howard's doing well. No, he might

603
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not be. He probably changed the
subject on us anyway, Yeah, or

604
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Nico, who knows Nico couldn't be
in the desert. Nico takes it easy,

605
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you know, he just be just
went and got a little, you

606
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know, a little lettuce and took
it out into the desert and he was

607
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.920
fine. He's chill, He's chill, Okay. I don't worry about Nico

608
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:54.639
like that. I do worry about
Howard sometimes you just wonder what what makes

609
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.119
him tick and or what we'll make
his tick or stop, you know,

610
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.679
and losing like the way the the
Suns did. So I don't know,

611
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.679
just weird stuff. But you know, a lot a lot of discussion about

612
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.199
where these coaches are gonna go because
four good coaches got fired. Yeah,

613
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.519
so you know, there's a bunch
of teams that don't have coaches as good

614
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.280
as the four they got fired.
So you wonder, you know, where

615
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:22.239
are they just gonna gonna you know, you know, just kind of shuffle

616
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.159
them around and are they gonna be
coaching it? Sure, it's just places

617
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.000
and change your address, change your
address. That's how it is. And

618
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:32.119
I'll breaking news about the locals that
maybe possibly going to another school or to

619
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.679
another program. Yeah, so that's
interesting. Um, just a lot of

620
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.280
a lot of things going on all
right, so we were talking about the

621
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:40.840
game time. What's your take on
the game, Jason, because you're a

622
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:44.679
resident expert in the room. Yeah, honest, I'm not to be sure

623
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:46.880
about this one. I know the
heat has has some time off, so

624
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:51.199
they might come out a little bit
rusty versus the Celtics just came off in

625
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.239
Game seven, right, So I
think the Celtics probably win Game one because

626
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:59.440
it's in Boston. It's a you
know, more game ready. I feel

627
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.440
like then the heat and I like
the heat well, you know, want

628
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.920
to kind of feel it out,
see how Boston is playing seat there no

629
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:07.480
intensity level and kind of just feel
it out. So I think I think

630
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.159
Boston takes Game one. But the
don't you think at this time of the

631
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:14.960
year, though, that the rest
that the heat have gotten is better than

632
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.199
not having the rest and as you
say, you know, being rest.

633
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.400
Wait wait, wait, we've had
this When you said that, I was

634
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.760
gonna bring this discussion up because we've
talked about it just depends to me,

635
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.880
rust doesn't. It's a term we're
using. It's like moments, not because

636
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.679
this is what they do for a
living. You're good at your night right,

637
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:35.880
two day rest, one day it
doesn't really because it's right, but

638
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:37.800
I think you know, the feel
of the game, the pay is like

639
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:43.320
it's what they do, but like
practicing and like actual game, you know,

640
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.840
speed and everything is different. Right, So I think they're gonna be

641
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.480
ready for the game obviously. But
what you said, and I think this

642
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.559
is why I went the way I
did. Yeah, Boston's at home,

643
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.239
right, that's why they should That's
a big deal. That's in the NBA.

644
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.360
That's a huge deal. Right,
Denver hasn't lost at home all all

645
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.079
see Yeah, play playoffs, Ye, I don't think this has happened.

646
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:07.079
Lakers have. I think they haven't, so Okay, so there's a rub,

647
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.920
right, So if they go seven, you'd go with Denver realistically,

648
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.119
but one of them is gonna lose, Yeah, I think at least.

649
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.360
Yeah. Um and and I we
don't know enough about heat, do we.

650
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.079
You know, Boston's pretty darn good, right, I think they eat

651
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:27.800
it pretty good. But but they've
been fantastic in Milwaukee. But they always

652
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:31.039
go on this role at this time
of year. Yeah, and then forget

653
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:34.960
about December, January or last time. This is the time they play.

654
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.119
Yeah, I mean they plug you
know, they've looked great in the past

655
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.760
couple of years in the playoffs.
Um, they've not got over the hump.

656
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:43.239
You know, I'm winning the finals, but they've they've got there.

657
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.440
So dude, okay, so let
me give you this, and we're not

658
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:51.159
look at the calls, uh five
best players in the five best players in

659
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:55.039
the league right now maybe the players
Butlers could be top three. Yeah,

660
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:00.039
he's definitely top three. I would
say that right now. Who's one who's

661
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.400
doing I think I think Butler.
I think Butler is playing bad than Jason

662
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.239
Tatum right now on the playoff.
Oh Davis see him? Yeah, okay,

663
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:13.400
where is Lebron fitting this smith?
Lebron's you know, maybe five six

664
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.280
yeah, five six probably yeah,
because Murray's done good too, I would

665
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:21.559
say, yo, kid, um, Anthony Davis, Butler, Jason Tatum.

666
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.000
So yeah, yeah, I mean
I think Lebron is, you know,

667
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.719
kind of in the distance. Yeah, he's still doing what he what

668
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.920
he does. Yeah yeah, and
you know what, he's thirty eight years

669
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:32.920
old. I mean he's doing what
he and he's he's gonna go off for

670
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.000
one of these games. Yeah,
so he'll say I'm thirty eight, but

671
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.679
watch me. Yeah, yeah,
I still think and I think I said

672
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.800
this to somebody last thing, the
keyta Lakers is gonna be Davis. Oh

673
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:45.559
yeah, for sure, Lebron can
do this. But if Davis doesn't,

674
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.280
and he had a forty, he
had a great game. I think if

675
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.519
the small guard lineup they had in
the first half was really what lost in

676
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:57.079
the game. They just started off
way too slow and then the Nuggets went

677
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.639
up you know, twenty or thirty
points whatever was in the first half.

678
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.760
The Lakers were just fighting back the
entire game, so they never caught up.

679
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.880
You never caught up. So I
think they'll make the ad judgment like

680
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.320
they did in the second half,
and they'll be much better. I used

681
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.880
to like your Lakers. Yeah,
yeah, you don't like them anymore.

682
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.559
The Lakers. No. I love
my Denver. I love the Denver.

683
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:15.960
Yeah, I think both fan bases. No, I feel pretty good.

684
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.679
Yeah. Yeah, And like you
said, if they hadn't lost at home

685
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.360
yet, well that tells you how
tough they are, right exactly. So.

686
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.159
Yeah, so you know, the
Heat are plus four hundred to win

687
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:29.559
the series. That's a good number, that's a that's a fair price.

688
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.039
It's a good price. I think
if you bet if I were you,

689
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:45.159
I want to give you the twenty
so you have some series. I don't

690
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.840
know. I just have Boston,
uh tonight in a party. But but

691
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.320
I think Boston's a better team.
So I so I bet Denver to win

692
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.960
it all a long time ago.
And I think realistically, if Milwaukee was

693
00:44:55.159 --> 00:45:00.320
is not there and they're not,
Boston would be the next team up after

694
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.480
those two. I couldn't tell you
after that, right, Okay, it

695
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.320
doesn't make sense. The interesting thing
is that any anyway, any of these

696
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:08.840
four teams can win it. Yeah, because you know, I mean,

697
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:13.400
while while while the Nuggets have been
really good, they're not unbeatable by these

698
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.039
by these the Lakers can beat him, that Heat can beat him. The

699
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.800
Celtics can honestly beat him. Yeah. What what I think? And that

700
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.079
you were playing the the one of
the clips from this morning? Yeah,

701
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:27.039
I think what or maybe I saw
this today on TV? What people are

702
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.519
finding out because no one watches Denver, right, no one watches, not

703
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.280
until now? And what people can
say that guy can play yeah, when

704
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.199
everybody else knew that guy could play. Yeah. I think today it was

705
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:40.320
the first time I've ever heard on
like any national media that jokers got actually

706
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.480
like the recognition he deserves and he
was called the best pay on the planet.

707
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:46.239
Was the first time I've ever heard
ever, like today on TV and

708
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:51.639
he's MVP on MVP and like,
how you really get recognition for it?

709
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.519
How somebody, Yes, somebody,
somebody recognizes it. Right. I think

710
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.079
you're right. Like fans in general, you know, when they think about

711
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:00.639
the best players in the league,
they think of Lebron, they think of

712
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.039
they think of Steph. Yeah,
they think because they see the vind because

713
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.239
they see them. I'll give you
a perfect point of how we deal with

714
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.159
it. And during the NCAA tournament, we watched the Dukes, we watched

715
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:14.039
the Houston's, we watched the kansass
we never watched n fa U, Right,

716
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:15.320
we never watched it. Who are
they? Right? And then they

717
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.360
show up and kick your ass?
And you wonder who are these and they've

718
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.239
been going thirty four and three all
year? Yeah? And he said,

719
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:23.880
oh, oh, I didn't know
that. Yeah, So whose fault is

720
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:28.119
that? That's the person not watching
right? Right? Yeah, I think

721
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.639
it's you know, den veris in
the big you know New York, right,

722
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.760
Boston, La Market, So you
know they don't get like the media

723
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.159
visibility. Yeah that you know,
some of those other markets get, but

724
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.239
I feel like as experts who covered
the support, they should you know,

725
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:44.639
be familiar with like every all the
stars at least on all the teams.

726
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.760
And one of the things when I
when she went with Denver is because Murray

727
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.559
has been hurt the last two or
three years. So everyone's saying, oh,

728
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.039
they're just gonna do the be the
Buffalo Bills and fall apart at some

729
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:57.760
point. Right, Well, there's
the guard that who has been around.

730
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.239
Now he's around, yeah, and
he's pretty darn good. Yeah, when

731
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.039
he's healthy, he's one of the
best guards in the league, one of

732
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.519
the best players in the league,
honestly, and he's showing that right now.

733
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.519
So so it's not just a one
guy punch. No, it's a

734
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.639
one two punch with Porter coming out
though playing well. Yeah. And then

735
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.760
who's the guy who's the double name
guy? Uh, they played really well

736
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.239
last night. Um, I think
he might have been with Sons. He

737
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:24.239
had twenty one points, twenty two
points. Name not coming to my head

738
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.239
right now. Okay, so that
guy, Yeah, I don't have that

739
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.559
guy. So but all those pieces
don't. Yeah, I know the nuggets

740
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.400
that up like everyone could played well
honestly likes to have to get that has

741
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.800
to happen. Like they were making
like crazy shots like shot. I'm like

742
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:42.320
they were making everything mry like so, I mean everyone played well. They

743
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:46.559
look like Princeton. You know what. We don't need any more of those

744
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.239
chiefs from Okay, we really don't. I wanted to see your face.

745
00:47:50.519 --> 00:48:00.960
Yeah, well there's your finger too. You know. It's funny, Steve,

746
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:07.320
because we sit here every day and
I see the dig coming and then

747
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.400
I still get I still get hit
by it. I see it coming and

748
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.199
and it's still like it still gets
there. Right, I can't get the

749
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:21.719
gloves up in time. It's all
right, Okay, A lot of good

750
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:22.480
a lot of a lot of things
happened. I can't wait to get to

751
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:27.719
breaking a lot a lot of good
breaking news stuff. If PJA starts tomorrow,

752
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.639
I'm excited about that. You know, I love I love the Majors.

753
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.199
Um PJ is sort of the I
don't pay attention to go ahead.

754
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.320
It's sort of always been the step
child of the Majors, right like the

755
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.400
fourth one. But you know they've
moved it up. You know it used

756
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:45.039
to be played in uh In in
August, and it was the last one

757
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.599
now you know, to put it
to get a major in each month,

758
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.199
you know, from April, May, June, and July. It's now

759
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:54.079
played. You know, it's it's
it's coming up this week and it's you

760
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:59.280
know, it's a major where a
lot of guys who get their first major

761
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:04.320
at this time. Jason Day who
won last week for the first time in

762
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.639
like several years, you know,
um doubts his only major. Uh,

763
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.199
you know, it's kind of like
a place to get your first one.

764
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:14.400
And so it's gonna be at Oak
Hills and in Rochester. I love the

765
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:16.920
majors, I really do, and
I pay attention to these. So I'll

766
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:21.480
be talking a little with you guys
next. So well, how I rudely

767
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.480
interrupted you. I want to ask
about to live Is that kind of is

768
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.000
that kind of falling to the It's
still something something going on with there because

769
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.599
they didn't they lost some publicity.
That's where you can a bunch of weird

770
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.559
stuff. You know, they got
on the CW and like they got some

771
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.920
bad publicity because uh, they were
getting to the end of a tournament and

772
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.760
they cut them off so they could
put the Flintstones on or whatever is the

773
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.039
you know whatever is on the CW
programming um and and actually, uh that

774
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.960
tournament when it went to a playoff
and nobody got to see it, isn't

775
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.679
that Remember how they have the football
game, the game, the Hidie game

776
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.719
years ago, So those there's some
of that. There's still a lot of

777
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:01.119
friction between the between the two tours, although the the live guys can play

778
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.679
in the PGA, so they're you
know, some of those guys are in

779
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.360
the Brooks Keptuf, Phil Nicholson,
those guys are Dustin Johnson, are all

780
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.280
in the PGA. You know.
It was funny, it's kind of anticlimactic

781
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.599
when all those guys played in the
Masters. People the people were thinking,

782
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:15.920
oh, they're gonna be at each
other, you know, they weren't.

783
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:21.679
No, Yeah, they're they're friends
and they know some guys disagree with the

784
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:23.159
fact that these guys all went to
the live tour, of course, but

785
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.239
in the end they're gonna get out. It's a gentleman's game. They're gonna

786
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.679
play and nobody's gonna give each other
any crap. And and so I think

787
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:32.920
that's kind of settled a little bit. There's a lot of different things.

788
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.920
There was there was some rumblings for
a while that Greg Norman was gonna get

789
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:42.039
get the boot. They started talking
about doing a woman's live tour. That's

790
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.559
conversation is out there. There are
guys who are leaving the Live Tour because

791
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:50.719
they're getting kicked off, you know, because they're not performing performing. Um,

792
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:55.920
well, the DP Tour, which
is basically the overseas tour, the

793
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.719
uh it's not just Europe, it's
you know, it's it's overseas. They've

794
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.320
they've gone steadfast. And they're saying, if you want to be in the

795
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:09.320
DP, in the in the live
tour, you owe underco because of your

796
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:13.639
contract with the DP Tour, you
owe us hundreds of thousands of dollars.

797
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:15.960
And they're saying, I'm not paying, and so they're not they're not getting

798
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:20.280
to play. Stuff like that.
There's just still a lot of friction like

799
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:22.400
that. But you know, uh, brooks Kep guy I think I saw

800
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:30.559
is the is the third favorite,
just behind behind Scotti, Scheffler and and

801
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:35.079
uh and Ron wrong. Wrong.
So the guy I was talking about is

802
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:39.079
called Will Pope. Oh okay,
he's by the Lakers. Yeah, Well

803
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.159
he used to be with we used
to be. Now he's with. He

804
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.079
had a good game. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, you know too,

805
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:47.519
So it should be fun at least
I think we should be fun. Yeah.

806
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:51.880
Um, it's what it's what keeps
us interesting because we don't want to

807
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.760
do in the regular season. We
don't and and you know, and I

808
00:51:54.880 --> 00:52:00.519
feel like I should, but I
mean it's as far as we can catch.

809
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.119
Well, I think did you see
that kur Kur talked about that the

810
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.519
punch and it was very obviously,
very obviously how they didn't get along.

811
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:10.480
They played, they played, but
they didn't get along, and how that

812
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.840
kind of was the key to the
whole season. Well, well, Draymond

813
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Green came out and said that,
he said that he thought that they lost,

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that they got eliminated at this time. It dated all the way back

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to that and what the hell did
you do it? Well? Because he

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is who he is and and and
pull pissed him off, I mean,

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pull us a little punkish, you
know, how do you how do you

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get through that? That'll be interesting
to see how the Warriors changed things up.

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I mean, they won a championship
just last year. But it's funny

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how things have changed so quickly.
And then you know, maybe you gotta

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you gotta get rid of a couple
of guys, you know, discussion about

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James Harden. You know, people
saying, okay, you gotta fired,

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you fired the coach. You know, well you gotta get rid of James

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Harden too. So worries James Harden
go back to Houston. Yeah, okay,

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first hour almost complete. So we're
gonna have some breaking news by you,

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Jason, yep, and I'll probably
all of us. We have a

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little get some little things. And
thanks to John Promer for joining us and

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telling us how we can buy part
of them. Yeah, well we have

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to go do some research. Well
don't we always. We have to invest

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money, I know, do our
work for us. All right, let's

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let's take our break. We'll come
back. Jason will be on with breaking news.

