So Superman legacy right now, there's two things, one that came out official
and then one that is rumored right now. So supposedly there's going to be
a Supergirl in this. This comes from Daniel Orpika a bea to your Scooper.
So there's gonna be a super grown here. The word is that it's
not gonna be Sasha Kaya. They are we casting and obviously they've announced they're
doing that Supergirl woman up to more movies, so this is kind of the
it'll be them and then they'll transition over to that movie. So that got
that going on. And I'm not sure Kirkler, if there's anyone that springs
in mind, you don't have to spring that on you so oft the time.
And then the second thing is Kirkland. I'm sure you don't remember this,
but in patri Pascal wasn't Wonder Woman too? You remember that? I
do remember at a play fucking sewn Gunn's character what Maxwell lad okay? Good
job. Yeah. So now in the DCU they I guess technically James Gonna
confirmed Nicholas Hoole, but we knew that was happening. But yes, in
the DCU, Maxwell Lord is going to be played by Sean gun So I
guess let me go to give us some context. Where I'm a DC fan,
I've not read everything DC, primarily my stuff as Batman. From what
I know of Maxwell Lord, and even if you look at that one Woe
in two movie, I don't see much of Seawangun there. Now. I
will say that every other casting so far from James Gunn has to me ben
perfect or I've been like, this could be good, so I'm giving him
the benefit of the doubt. I just think that it's not that I'm opposed
to Sewn Gunn being there, because I knew that was gonna happen. It's
just the roll off the top seems like this is odd and it's either two
things where just even visually, he doesn't to me like he looked like the
way they were doing him in Wonder Room before, where he was like a
Donald Trump s like you pull up anything. The guy has like a comb
over, he's jacked physically. He does not look like Shawn gun at all.
So Okay, maybe we're throwing out of the window and maybe he is
something we don't know about. I've heard from other people that he's granted the
Terminal listed in a more serious role, so maybe that's something. So it's
either I have to wait or see or my worry is that they're gonna take
him and I don't think it will be as bad as Calenderman Suicide Squad,
but they're going to make him a much more comedic character. So I'm not
here going like, oh man, I fucking love Maxwell Lord, this is
gonna suck. I just think it's one where it's like, it's not like
you see the side by side and the little I know of Maxwell Laurier,
like this does not scream show and all this does scream like, oh,
this is James Gunn's brothers casting. So like, I'm ify on that.
I'm willing to give it a shot. I hope. I hope it's not
just overly comedic, because gun does that with some characters. We're like,
oh, I'm just gonna make this character a joke, now, you know.
So I hope that's not the case. And with super Girl, yeah,
I think we all kind of figured Sasha Kyi would probably begin in the
boot. I'm somebody that everyone saw that movie is like, she's the fucking
star, She's the best, And I thought she was good, but I
didn't think she had enough where it left a huge mark. I mean,
even then, if you want to go to extend if I don't know what
her screen time is compared to Tom Holmes's screen time in Civil War, but
even in Civil War, would oh, man, this guy is great.
I liked her in Flash, but I wasn't as gleamed on to as many
other people. So that's been a big thing this week because everyone's bummed about
that, but I'm not as much. It sucks for her because like you
imagine, you get this roly thin, you're gonna go on for years.
But so that sucks. And I didn't dislike her, so I would have
been fine if they said, oh, we're bringing sash Kay back. Sure,
but I think Gun's clearly doing his own thing. And my only theory
that I've thrown it on Twitter is if you look at Nicholas Holt, he
was going for Superman and he got Lex Luthor. My theory, and I
don't know if it's my top pick because I haven't give much thought to it.
But Samorrow Weaving also auditioned for Lois Lane and didn't get that. And
if you look at if they're gonna do, which I feel like if you
look at the cast and so far, James Gunn is doing very comic book
accurate stuff. Other than Sean Gunn, he's the one that does stand out
like this doesn't make much sense, but everyone else looks like they're equivalent.
I could see a scenario where some aw we even went for Lois Lane did
get that, but she could get Supergirl, just like Holt got Lex Luthor.
They're similar in age and know people like, oh but cars like twenty
six and she's like thirty two. It doesn't matter. So are people gonna
tell me that some sormorrow we even looks old. She still looks fucking super
like you can do anything like they can play twenty year olds, you know.
So yeah, that's where and Supergirl being in the movie, that's I
don't know what they would do with her, like, I don't know if
it would be like she's showing up at Earth at the end. I don't
know if it would be like something on Krypton. I think that, Yeah,
I really don't know. I haven't put much loot of what I would
want from a Supergirl in a Superman movie. But as Bob says, I
wouldn't like tomorrow week, superwl to me tomorrow. We even can do everything,
like you look at Ready or not, you look at babysitter and then
you look a Babylon. I think she has enough range that she could pull
off Supergirl like kind of easily. Like I think some of those other roles
are so much more harder to do. So I don't know where I want
Supergirl though, Like I guess I want to at least in like a minor
role again, because I've said before I still want this just to be about
Superman. I'm falling in love with this version of Superman. So Tarror.
Any thoughts on the Shawn Gun casting and any thoughts on what do you want
from Supergirl in this movie? If this rumor seems to be true. Oh,
I've seen a lot of people just kind of like, oh, I
guess if your family you kind of did? I say, Taylor, you
said, oh my god, my mind definitely said Kirkling, holy Ship.
I was ready to go and then go. I'm not ready anymore. I
prepared myself as soon as you said Taylor. Yeah. No, I think
that the whole thing I've been seeing where people talking about like, oh,
family, you know gets that benefit of Seawan Shaan Gun and stuff, you
know, getting like two characters or whatnot. Just people again, what is
it? Thank you? What was it called botism? Nepotism? Yeah,
uh, it's you know, it's nepotism. Don't let him do that be
going around with this French accent. Yeah, it's a cousin. I think
it's it's it's fair like you know you you you know someone, so,
yeah, you're gonna naturally you're gonna have that end doing some fun roles and
stuff for a film, a franchise. But I also do think too that
it is unfortunate because well, I'm sure he's adequately qualified. There are other
hard working individuals out there that are really trying to like they want that shot.
Maybe you're taking that you're taking that route. He's people. It's not
like Seawan Gun has not had plenty of opportunities through James gunn Uh to work
in his movies and do all that kind of stuff. But I do think
it it is to a degree unfair, like when you casted your brother in
a variety of roles cast cast, not cast, cast not cast. It
just hasn't even casted though, it's just cast. That's google it after matter
grammatically correct you what is it not sounding like cast? Trust me, it's
just it's just cast cast the cast roles, and so I just feel like,
yeah, it should go to you know, someone else. You'll be
able to get in there and bring something forward that you know, an up
and com or something like that. But his wife dress, his wife is
in everything that's super Girl right there? That's the yeah, could you imagine?
No, I I know if the joke is wonder Woman, that's the
joke everyone goes to. I really like, yeah, I really I like
her, But like I think where she's a peacemaker is that's the that's the
right amount. I yeah, I don't think he could recover from that one.
I really don't because I like her, But I also don't think she's
that good of an I won't say that. I think character, you know,
nothing, nothing higher. And even if she is, she hasn't shown
that yet. So it's not like, oh, if you're married a stone,
Like let's say, let's say for somehow something happens in five people.
She doesn't deserve it, she's terrible. But let's say James Gun and Emma
Stone get married for some reason, and she were to go in a roll,
sure technically be nepotism, but he'd be like, well, that's one
of the best actresses in the So it's like, you know what we're you
know, she like hasn't shown that yet, you know, maybe she is.
But so, I mean, as far as Supergirl goes, I'm I'm
excited. I feel like we didn't get enough with Kara in the Flash,
and I really would have liked to have explored more of that that storyline.
That storyline alone was just really crazy, just as she just kept hostage and
deprived from the Sun. I doubt that that's what they're going to explore here,
but this storyline still has a lot of a lot of exciting notions that
I'm I'm super eager to learn and get to figure out. I mean,
there's so much that I don't understand and haven't really learned when it comes to
Kryptonians and Superman's extended family. So let's get into it. Let's do it,
because the only real foundation I know with Kryptonians is ZD and and yeah,
Clark Kent and just their kind of like fight and just Clark Kent's his
legacy and his parents and whatnot, and so just to build off of that,
I'm very much down for. Alright, kirkle Naz, you ready,
I think. So what was your question? Supergirl thoughts? I did like
Kara in the last movie that we saw in the Flash that was the one,
right, we're all playing together now. Uh yeah, I really liked
like that version of the character. Well, I should preface by saying I
have very limited Supergirl knowledge, so I don't really know what to pull from
for like combook source, I did really like the version that we saw,
but like for how she was used, like I think she looked really uh
fucked up for someone that was, you know, like trapped hidden from the
sun for all those I don't I don't even know how long they said it
was, yeah, a long time, And I thought she she played a
good like damage type character role in that sense. But you know, like
I I have seen glimpses or maybe little screenshots or little clips from what was
the actress that played her in the show, Melissa Noist. Yeah, I
like, so I've seen like that version just like blonde, long hair,
I don't know, like that's probably the more like stereotypical Supergirl, uh version
A from the comic books like the Classes. Yeah. So yeah, with
that being said, I am very excited to get Supergirl like pretty soon because
from what we got in the Flash was pretty limited. I'm excited to fully
dive into her story and really get an origin if we're getting that hands up
in the air, like you just don't care. If I were to say
that I'm gonna come see you in two years, do you say that'd be
pretty soon? No? But like if you were saying, like I'm bringing
I don't know, the Avengers movie soon, I would say two years,
that's that's acceptable. I'm just I was just confirming because two years from me
I said pretty soon, it's like, okay, I was trying to get
I think it's I think it's better than than to what I would have expected
from like we just got Supergirl in the Flash and then okay, that's what
we're getting now they're they're done with that era of DC. So yeah,
I think that's an appropriate time, Like I don't. I don't think it's
too far away, thank you. Uh So, yeah, I am very
much excited for that, and for casting wise, I really don't know who
I pulled from this big key reason is because I don't know the source material.
I don't know who favorite actress. Well, like I'm not getting Margot
Robbie in here, Like I know, I pulled up a couple of actors
Blake Lively, I wouldn't go for it, but she's good. I liked
her in a simple favor. He currently just pulled a batman like I wouldn't
go for it. A great blonde actress I'm thinking of, like what's her
name short, Sharonan? However you say her name, like, is she
blonde or is she a ginger? Ginger? Now again the image I'm looking
at her, she's blonde. Well that's a newer one. It's died here,
but we are also being done that anyone could just die they're blonde.
So no, yeah, But like I'm thinking of, like a great actress.
She is a great actress. Does she want to be the face of
like a brand new big superhero franchise when she when like the types of movies
that she's making seems very far away from like that type of spotlight. I
think she could do it because she's just she is just so fluid. I
don't know maybe that she did with Kate Winslet. You should go check out
it was a crazy watch. Oh yeah, what's it called? I can't
remember right now. Okay, but someone else? No, maybe like years
ago in that Heroes era, the hero show. The girl that I always
like to pick, and I don't know where she's now because I thought she'd
blow up a lot more. But is the did you guys ever see Happy
Deaf Day? No? Yeah, I really liked her as a pick.
She's one that I thought too, And that's why the same thing I'm not
when I saw I suppose with some our week. I'm not saying Smar Weeks
my number one pick. I just go like, I feel like she has
the stalk to like she could carry a movie she's building. She's a great
actress. So yeah, something that I do want to see pop off lately
because I loved her in House of the Dragon is Millie Alcock. Oh yeah,
that could be a really good one. Does that mean she never gets
me Spider Gwen. That's a problem though, right, Yeah, exactly,
I would prefer her and Spider Gwen uh and the Spider Grin. I feel
like that she's a pitch perfect casting. There one or the two. If
I can't get you know both, I would like one or the other.
Oh I thought you're gonna go with actress? Wise I canna say, or
how the only way to accepted she would be super Girl and they get Hunter
Schaeffer's for ooh Spider. I'll take that trade. I'll take James. Do
you want to get serious here for a second, Let's do it. That's
not serious again. So because I've seen this for many times with Zeld and
everything like that, and not that I'm opposed to it, but when do
you think we're gonna get When do you think we're gonna get in the era
of Like I'm saying what I'm saying here, my worry with Supergirl or Spider
Gwen is none of the companies would have the bravery to put a transactor in
there. I have no problem with it. I wouldn't care do it.
But that's always my worry with Oh, she should be Zelda or she should
should be Spider Gun. I agreet those choices, but I worry that are
these big companies gonna look at the same way When we talk about Disney,
like ed it's gay kisses out and stuff like that. Right, do they
look at it the same way? Because I think, yeah, Hunter Shaver
or Spidergun cool, do it perfect? But whenever I see that, I
always there's always part of me goes, ugh, it's a big corporation.
Ever gonna do that? You know, like I like and I'm not ever
because that sounds bad, But I mean, like in the next ten years
or so, like I think we were. I know, we live in
a progressive world, but still not that progressive. There's still toughs of people.
So it's like, I feel companies still will be like, uh no,
that's too risky, and I I want to be wrong, but same
thing, like we haven't That's what I'm interested with that other what is it?
The uh who are the the authority? There's the they're on a team
and the Batman and Superman of that team are a gay couple, and I'm
very interested to see, Okay, what does James Gunn do in this situation?
You know, is it gonna be where he gets to go No,
fuck it, we're going full like we're showing this or is it gonna be
like Eternals and black natural Coniferever it's one kiss off screen or on screen?
That's it, Like, so I want to say, yes, we live
in that world, especially like the ten year range, I feel like that
is pretty lanky. So I I think I would be okay with actually this
is next two years though, now yeah, next two years. Yeah,
probably Unfortunately not because like you know, there's always gonna be those assholes that
just boycott it for whatever reason or like not even just silently boycott it,
like go on to try and like everything. Yeah, she's becoming one of
the biggest stars of the world before. Yeah, she was in Hunger Game,
She's gonna be in Jima's game. You know, no exactly. But
like also looking at from the business standpoint, like places like China would just
like not actually show something like that, right, Like is that do you
think that is Wars? Oh? Yeah, I think it's like that's a
big thing in China. Okay. I was like, yeah, internationally,
I feel like they would be seeing like a big drop in like what they
could do, especially if it is the main actress of the film. You
can't just like edit her out of it. But I don't know, maybe
I'm just optimistic, but I feel like, definitely, if you give me
that ten year range, we will we'll start seeing that from the big studios
obviously, you know we're seeing it already in other avenues. But yeah,
that would be a massive one though, I think for like positive reasons,
you know, just having like the lead, especially such a character like Supergirl.
You know it's not Superman. Do the massage inistic comment, but I
still feel like, yeah, like just the super title along with like the
big s, Like that's just such a symbolic thing. So to be able
to, you know, put a trans individual on there, I think that
major step just forward going for that, and not even just because you know,
let's check that box, but she's such a phenomenal actress. Yeah,
te you want to ask that question, you want us to get it.
I just think that it's the option. Like if you want to tell,
if you want to tell a story, and you want to cast whoever you
want to cast, and you want to do what you want to do,
then I think you have every right to do that. Like it's but then
the money comes in for studios, right, That's that's that's true in countries,
are we going to put this lead in this lead? They're looking at
it as a financial point, and it sucks for the community. It sucks
for people that are like looking for that representation on the big screen and so
se Shawn Gun up there, They're like, fuck, I could have played
there, you go. So when you when you when you get the I
as much as I know like the the these groups and these individuals that are
like motioning forward and like making headway in this sort in this sort of stuff.
It's it's unfortunate because at the end of the day, I feel like
it just it is kicked to the curve because money will trump over that when
you're dealing with these big, mega corporations that have to see rates of return,
and it's unfortunate. I don't know how you compete with that. You
can keep fighting it, fighting it, fighting it, and eventually maybe that's
just what you have to do and it'll turn around when the world gets to
a place that's a little bit more opening and accepting. But then at the
same time, places like China. China is absolutely a superpower. It is
a world superpower, and so it's it's hard to to fight world superpowers like
that, especially when money is involved. So superpower hours that's when I yeah,
it's like this guy's looking across the room. He reacted there. It
was a serious from getting Thrones and fuel. I just want to know there,
Yeah, we'll see. I hope that there's a franchise that. That's
why I always pull for like the A twenty fours or place like that that
are getting bigger, and I want there to be someone that does a movie
like that or a franchise where it's like, yeah, there is a gay
character trans character and it's a big deal and also can make a bunch of
money in the North American market. But I think that's tough because I think
now it's we've done the reverse swing where I think there's a lot of people
that are maybe we're changing reviews are quiet about it. They're making a lot
of like Red Eye thumbnails and stuff like that, so they're pretty they're pre
making them. They probably make them for all the fancast whatever. Yeah,
it's like teams and stuff, and they have like those articles all written on
like older people's deaths like they have that they have like all the fan gas
and like the Red Eyes ready to go. But Super mikes his pick because
Kieran ship go. Yeah, that she would be pretty good. She's she's
charismatic. I could I could see that, you know, and up though
she's pretty scrawny, you know, she's lean, she's fit, but like
you gotta pack some muscle. I don't think so you're super Girl. Your
power is just from it within and from like the sun. Okay, different,
look at the comics. I don't think super Girl's that big in the
comics, right, she's like pretty you know, the world's biggest geek says,
do you think there'll be a postcred scene? And I think you're talking
about with Aquaman. No, I don't think any of us think there's gonna
be any Yeah, yeah, yeah, alright, let's take I was looking
at just like images of super Girl. This is a great image, like
great art for whoever did it, But I just can't help like, what
is the red on her on her crotch supposed to be Like it's not even
like but like it's not trunks. It's just like in that one region,
Like it definitely looks like candy panties or whatever those are called, the edible
underwear, Like that's for it is. Yeah, it's weird that it's just
in the the another regions. Yeah, it doesn't the landing zone. It's
just in a landing zone. There. It's not on the hips, it's
not even on the thighs. It's just right there. There's like, yeah,
that's a that's a weird image. What did you say? Looks like
James Gunn's wife. To be honest, she actually does. That's what's her
name, Jennifer Hall and perfect supergirl there you go get her in there.
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