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All right. Joining us now is
doctor Shiva Aya do Ray. He is

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running for president and I tell you
it really is an eye opener when you

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get involved in the political system like
this. His website is Shiva the Number

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four president dot com Shiva for President. And you know, as we're talking

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about, we want to talk about
ballot access specifically, but there's a broader

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issues that are involved here as well. And you look at the headlines and

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the Republicans are going to go on
offense to yank Biden from the ballot in

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various states, and they're cheering that
in the uh uh, you know,

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the Maga press, and then you've
even got Dissanta saying, well, if

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they kick Trump off the ballot,
we're going to kick off Biden off the

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ballot in Florida. They're angry about
this because these two parties have been colluding

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for the longest time to control ballot
access and that's what doctor Shiva is running

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up against. So thank you for
joining us, sir. Great to be

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here, David, Thanks for that
background. Yeah, you can tell people

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what's going on right now with this
immediately. Yeah, you know, with

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the ballot access, but I know
there's other issues there but you know what

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is happening with what is it like
to try to get on the ballot.

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It's crazy, isn't it. Well, well, what's interesting, David is

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you know, in the United States, if you're running for some office,

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let's say in your local state or
city or you know, county, et

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cetera. And it varies from state
to state, county to county. The

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election people run the elections, typically
who's known as the Secretary of State.

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They set up different requirements for you
to get on the ballot. I'm making

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an example. If you want to
run for dog catcher, there's four people,

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and let's say it's a voted election
seat, you have to before you

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can even run as a dog catcher, you have to get certain number of

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signatures to be on the ballot.
If you're running for the United States Senate

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in Massachusetts, the number was you
need to get ten thousand signatures that are

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bona fide signatures that they validate,
right, right, And you have to

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pay them to validate these signatures as
well. Right. Yeah, in some

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places you do. You have to
pay a fee, etc. And typically

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if you need to get ten thousand
bona fide signatures, you actually better collect

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twenty thousand because they want to If
you're an outside candidate, they're going to

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start throwing away his signatures or the
slant is wrong, Oh we can't read

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it. So they have all these
methods. But what I want to let

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everyone understand is to get your name
on the ballot, they have a hurdle,

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one of the hurdles. And I
want to talk broadly about this hurdle,

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but then more broadly about all the
hurdles they set up so working people,

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everyday people can never get someone like
me, one of their own,

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even winning an office. See,
and I want to talk about that.

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But ballot axis is one who gets
visibility is another piece. And even if

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you make it over there to those
things, they have all these mechanisms on

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election day to flip votes. And
we'll get to that. But ballid axis

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is the central aspect of democracy here, which is you have to get you

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know, fulfilled the requirements of the
state to get X number of signatures and

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they're called ballot nomination petition signatures to
get on the ballot. So I have

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experienced this level of what I call
election fraud the larger framework at every level

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over the last five years. So
let me begin with the ballot access process,

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right. So when I ran for
office, David in twenty eighteen against

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Elizabeth Warren, we needed to get
ten thousand signatures to get on the ballot.

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Guess what we did it. How
did we do it? We actually

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had amazing volunteers who stood out in
the cold and rain in front of the

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shopping centers and collected How did they
get on the ballot? Well, they

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actually collect money, and they pay
consultants to do that. And the interesting

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thing, David is I never saw
Elizabeth Warren, I never saw any of

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the other candidates ever collecting signatures.
So part of me is convinced that they

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have another method where they probably have
a boiler room where they have people writing

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signatures. I can't prove that yet, but I can tell you over the

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last four years, I never saw
them collecting signatures. I don't know how

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it works in Massachusetts, but I
know that in North Carolina where we worked,

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the Democrats and Republicans had to do
nothing. They didn't have to collect

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any Yeah, they grandfathered him in
and they said you will. They had

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a thing set up so they kicked
all the independent and third parties off each

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election cycle. They said, you've
got to get a number of votes it's

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equivalent to ten percent of the vote's
cast for president, or you're not going

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to stay on the ballot. And
we said that's crazy, and so every

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time you'd have to go back,
and they eventually had a lawsuit and got

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that lowered, but they still have
to go out and collect the signatures,

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and Republicans and Democrats do not have
to collect the signatures. They just float

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through, and so it is something
that is an extra burden. Waste your

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time, It wasted your money to
do that, because we had to pay

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for the signature variation of validation as
well. So it really when they had

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it in the lawsuit, the argument
was, this is like the Greek Sissyphus

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legend, right where the guy pushes
the bowlder up the hill and then it

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rolls back down. He's going to
do that for eternity. That's what exactly

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what it's like in most of these
states. Yeah, so in twenty eighteen,

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we had amazing volunteers. We got
on the ballot, and that blew

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them away. Right in twenty twenty
we got on the ballot again. Hard

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work. We had working people,
every one of our volunteers. None of

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them was paid, David. They
had full time jobs, mothers, retired

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people, people, working class people, and then they would go after work

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and stand for two hours and very
diligently collect signature. So we played by

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the rules. Now, when you
run for president, as I'm doing right

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now, as David, you mentioned
Schiva for president, dot com people and

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go look at what we're all about. But every state, right has different

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requirements to get on the ballot.
There's no uniform set of requirements. In

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Utah, for example, we have
to get a thousand signatures to get on

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the ballot. In Massachusetts we need
ten thousand. In Florida we need one

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hundred and thirty thousand. They make
it a percentage of the last governor's race,

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right, So if you add up
all the things, that comes close

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to one point five million signatures you
need all right. So again, as

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you mentioned, David, the Democrats
and Republicans are two multi billion dollar,

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trillion dollar parties, whatever you want
to call them, with all the backing.

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They don't have to collect any signatures. They're de facto ruled in and

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this is anti democratic if they're going
to off all the rules. If you

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are an outsider, independent candidate or
anyone else. You have to collect those

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one point five million signatures. Now
how do you do it? Well,

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if it's legitimate, you have volunteers
who love you, who are willing to

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be dedicated. They go out and
collect. Now I call him boobyf and

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Kennedy. You know, he's acting
like he's an independent, but he's totally

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supports Zionism. He's you know,
he is four full vaccination of all American

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He's a completely duplicit as individual.
So he has positioned himself as a anti

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fake, anti styleblishment candidate. So
in Utah, David, you needed just

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one thousand signatures. And so what
he did was he went in the did

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backroom deals, Oh I don't have
I can't collect these signatures, and then

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goes online and begs for people to
give him money. And some big pack

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gave him fifteen million dollars to collect
one thousand signatures, right right, fifteen

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million. I mean that means he
has no support. You see, these

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people don't have real working people's support. They're from the swarm from above.

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And so for him, he's got
a war chest and he'll go pay consultants

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who are his friends ten bucks a
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Ten dollars stimes one point five million
in our case. So in Utah,

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I actually went out there. We
in a few days, we collected,

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we trained our volunteers. Five hundred, six hundred signatures. Boom, done

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in a couple of days. All
right, So how do you collect signatures?

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Well, this is where it gets
even more interesting. So for ordinary

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people like us to let signatures,
we have to go out into the world,

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into the public. Well. The
typical place that people have found consistently

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the best place to collect signatures if
you have a retailer, like a grocery

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store like a Harman's in Utah,
or a Whole Foods or a Star market.

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You know, you typically go stand
outside, you have your you know,

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your pad, and you say hi, you know, would you like

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to put a candidate on the ballot. Most people who signed say, well,

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yeah, I want Even though they
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egalitarian nature people yeah, I want
to see more people and they sign They

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do now they do. And that's
the thing that's interesting is and we saw

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that when we would do signatures,
they say, well, I don't necessarily

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suborning. But I think we don't
have the choices that we need to open

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up. Exactly, yeah, exactly, and it wasn't about So now what

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happens for the a young volunteer who's
enthusiastic they come to your campaign. When

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they typically go out in front of
let's say a Whole Foods or a store,

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the store manager will come out,
Hey, you can't be here collecting

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signatures. This is where the intimidation
begins. The store manager doesn't know the

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rules. And then the typical volunteer
will say, oh really, and they'll

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leave because they're afraid. But the
educated volunteer will say, no, I

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have the right to be here because
there have been Supreme Court rulings, State

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Supreme Court rulings, and so where
it gets very interesting, since going back

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to nineteen thirty nine, nineteen eighty, twenty fourteen, many rulings where the

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courts did the right thing here,
David, they said, okay, in

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fairness for every day working people to
get on the ballot, they have to

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go to these areas where there's lots
of people. And what the courts did

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and they did the right thing,
they said during an election cycle, so

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that's the first predicate and second predicate, you're collecting nomination signature put on the

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ballot, and the person collecting is
not harassing people are obstructing the way.

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Guess what that private property gets super
The private property rights get superseded by the

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individual individual's constitutional rights. Quite amazing. So the issue is the court said,

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Okay, yeah, that person owns
that parking lot. Yes it's private

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property, but you know a lot
of people going through there. It's a

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town square. And so the court
said during an election cycle and when they're

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collecting nomination signatures and they cannot be
obstructing harassing people, they have their right

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to collect nominations signatures. One of
them was a prune Yard ruling that went

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up to the Supreme Court. Well
me, let me ask you what was

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the date on that, because that's
nineteen eighty. That's good because you know,

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I talk many times when I talk
about censorship and the digital public square,

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as Jack Dorsey said eight or nine
times under oath when he's being asked

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about it. You go back to
nineteen forty six and there's a case called

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Marsh versus Alabama. It was a
company owned town and somebody was handing out

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religious tracks, and they you know, banned them from doing it, and

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they fought it to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said, even

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if the public square is privately owned, you can't stop free speech in the

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public square. And so it's very
similar to that, and I wish we

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could broaden that out. It's good
that they did that, right to say,

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I think the nineteen forty six thing
was perfect. I think this ruling

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you're talking about allowing people to collect
signatures in a public place. Yes,

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it's also appropriate. It is a
way to send this out to the social

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media and other things. Yes.
Yeah, But the thing is these have

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been ruled. They've been Supreme rulings. That one before after Pruneyard, which

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was nineteen eighty was Batchelder versus Allied
stores to collect signature. So anyway,

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now what's happened is, David,
think about this. You would think every

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law enforcement officer, before they get
their badge and they get their guns,

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would be trained on this basic fundamental
ruling because it's so connected to democracy,

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elections and constitutional rights. So this
is how the elites work. They make

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sure they don't train the cops.
They make the cops us versus them,

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right, or the fake us versus
them. They make them our enemy.

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So I've had many instances. Because
I'm articulated, I know the law,

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I always win these arguments. So
I'll give you an example. We were

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at Whole Foods. Once you know, the store manager says you have to

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leave. We say, no,
we have the right to be here.

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Would you like to sign my papers? Okay? And then they say,

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oh, you're trespassing. We said, well, please call your supervisor or

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please have the police come. We'll
explain it to them. Cruisers will show

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up, guys with you know,
all puffed up, Hey, you can't

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be here, you have to leave. Typically the lower over officers. We

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said, no, I want to
let you know that we have a right

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to be here. There's been the
Pruniyard rulings of glove Ski rulings during an

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election cycle. You know, when
we're collecting signatures, we're not harassing anyone.

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This area becomes a public square.
And then you go, WHOA,

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no, you have to leave.
I said, please call your supervisor.

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So it keeps escalating. The supervisor
shows up, and then typically those guys

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will say hold on, they call
the attorney and they'll Most of the time,

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if you're you know, stand firm
and you're able to articulate, they

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say, Okay, you have the
right to be here, but you can't

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harass people. And they'll go tell
the store manager. That happened to us

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when we were collecting signatures just eight
weeks ago in Utah. Okay, our

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volunteers are collecting. The store manager
says, you can't collect. I said,

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we have the right to collect free. Police officers show up start wanting

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everyone's IDs, and then I said, please bring your supervisor. The supervisor

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is quite nice. He said,
oh, I'm really interested in case law.

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We said, this is a reality. He called it the state attorney.

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He said, you have the right
to be here. He reprimanded,

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Actually, the store manager, that
is the reasonable way. But think about

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what we have to do, David. We have to do this education.

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Yes, right, we have to
do all this work. Democrats, Republicans

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and others don't. Booby Kennedy doesn't
have to do that. He just pays

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people to collect signatures. But if
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and if you have working class supporters, think about the barrier to entry.

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First of all, getting volunteers to
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difficult. Then they have to face
a police They have to face all this

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intimidation, and this is where the
election fraud really begins. Now, it

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got quite egregious. And the reason
I called you, David, I'm very

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kind that you wanted to discuss this
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Sunday, which was really the twelfth
anniversary of my mom's passing, I was

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doing a memorial service at the house
and I get an urgent call from our

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state leader in Kentucky. Okay,
amazing. One of the most well mannered

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young gentlemen I've ever met. He
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gets up at seven in the morning, works until four. Working class guy.

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He's seen all my videos, loves
our campaign, you know, went

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through all of our training and became
the state leader in Kentucky. We have

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a couple hundred volunteers here. While
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on a Sunday, because you know, we need five thousand signatures. So

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he's standing out in front of the
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respectful, waving to people collecting signatures. He had collected around seven signatures.

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What ends up happening is a Walmart
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billion dollar company who sells all sorts
of Chinese crap. Okay, excuse my

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language, comes out and says you
can't be here, and he says,

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no, I have the right to
be here. Here's a puneyard ruling,

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etc. Then the supervisor comes out, you know, harassing him, and

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he goes, no, I have
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this is a working class American citizen
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stating I have a right to be
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show up and he said, and
the officer says, you're trespassing, up

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to leave. He goes, no, officer, I have a right to

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be here. Guess what they do, David. They handcuff him, put

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him in the back of a cruiser. I was on the phone with the

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police officer Nick, you know,
he called me right and I said,

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officers, please let him go,
right, he has a right to be

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here. And they take him to
the police station, take off all his

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clothes, strip search him, cavity
search him. Wow, okay, this

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is in the United States, put
jail clothes on him, and then I

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did a live and I said,
hey, people call the Kentucky police and

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I think they got a little bit
concerned. Hundreds of calls came in,

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so they released him. That evening, he leaves a police station, he

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opens up his wallet. His money
is missing. Wow, they don't give

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him money. They stole his money. And then he had to walk back

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to his car at Walmart. And
this is an American citizen, a working

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class person who supports someone like me. So the issue is it's obvious the

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swarm, the elites do not want
us David having one of our own in

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any level representing us. And think
about the scene here Walmart, multi billion

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dollar company who billions hundreds of millions
during the pandemic while small stores were getting

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shut down. Here's a police officer
who's supposed to defend the constitution and the

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rights of the constitution. What does
he do He serves a multi billion dollar

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company's rights, doesn't purposely, was
never trained or did choose no train takes

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advantage of a young twenty eight year
old, working class US citizen electrician who

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on a Sunday has not done any
crime, handcuffed, put in the back

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of a cruiser, strip searched,
Cavity searched, Wow, and his money

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stolen. Wow. And this is
the level of how the elites do not

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want any one of us. David, I mean, I think I deserve

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to have a shot at being president. Okay, you have to get on

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so they have the ballot access.
It's like a king has various ways the

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peasants can't get in. He's got
the big walls, and he's got the

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moat, and then he's got other
whatever alligators. Right, So the first

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so when you step back at this, and I've experienced all four of these

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things. Number one, they denied
visibility to outsiders, meaning you don't get

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on mainstream media, you don't get
to be on the debate stage. I

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experienced that in twenty eighteen, we
collected twenty thousand signatures, we got ballot

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access. I was the independent candidate. I was supposed to be on the

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stage. I hit all the poll
numbers. Elizabeth Warren, the Republicans and

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the Democrats colluded's right to keep me
off the debate stage. They've always take

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one that I had to take twenty
thousand dollars out of our bank account hire

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a lawyer. That lawyer as he
was representing us. He turned out he

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was a big Paul Ryan supporter,
so he actually screwed up the case on

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purpose. So we were denied all
the mainstream media visibility all the debate because

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they knew if I got on,
I would win. So one is who

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gets visibility, and right now you
can see the elections. They Trump gets

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visibility, Biden gets visibility. Hilly. They even went and found a brown

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skinned guy looks like me who speaks
anti establishment but is the most pro zionist

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establishment guy. You can imagine,
Vivike, the snake I call him,

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comes out of nowhere. Yeah,
you see, overnight they give visibility to

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people. Is Martin ability? Is
Martin Scairelli a big farm of bro as

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well? Yeah, not only that, he's a liar, he's a cheater.

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He said he was against affirmative action, took affirmative action scholarships. He

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made up a bogus drug with his
mother, took it, public tanked the

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drug. This guy's a complete scumbag, but they knew, Hey, there's

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that guy, doctor Shiva. He's
truly anti establishment. So they have literally

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watched what we do. He's a
chatchipt okay version. Yeah, so they

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first step of election fraud system is
who gets visibility. Second step is who

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gets ballid access. Now, what
occurred to us in twenty twenty was we

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got ballid and we had massive visibility, David. We raised two million bucks

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in a federal election for US Senate, and we challenged the GOP establishment.

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We had bumper stickers, we had
huge billboards. We put about a million

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bucks into billboard signs. Our opposition
GOP establishment candidate couldn't even race two hundred

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grand. The GOP had to give
it to him. So think about that.

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We overcame the visibility, we overcame
the ballot access. And then what

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do they do to us in twenty
twenty, They flipped the machines. They

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stole our election in the molt nine
counties in Massachusetts. We won overtly in

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the hand counted paper ballot county everywhere
else sixty forty sixty forty. That resulted

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in my famous lawsuit where we exposed
how the government colludes with social media.

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I'm not going to go there,
but I have experienced, as a hard

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working American, all levels of these
four levels of election fraud. They have

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the election fraud on election day,
which I've talked about and written about and

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then major papers about right which is
a signature verification of the chain of custody.

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But the real election fraud begins with
who gets visibility and who gets ballid

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access. So in the United States
right now, we have to get on

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the ballot in every state. The
unfortunate thing for them, David, we

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have about one hundred thousand volunteers,
working people, and this is what scares

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them so much is that we will
actually do it legitimately. We don't notice.

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I've not asked for money one time
during this conversation. People want to

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volunteer. Great Our Movement for Truth
for them and health is a part of

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our campaign. Wants to mobilize Americans
to wake up and realize that these hard

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thought rights no other country has.
And so what they do is they make

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the law enforcement officers ignorant, They
make people ignorant, tossert their rights.

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When you assert your rights, they
do cavity searches and they trip. It's

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crazy. So anyone listening, you
can tweet all day, you can talk

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about how bad the world is,
but we are actually on the ground,

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actually where the rubber meets a road
fighting. One of the most important fights,

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which is ballid access. That's right, and doing it the legitimate way,

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not begging for money like Booby Kennedy
or the Democrats or Republicans. We're

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actually mobilizing people who go out in
the midst of their busy schedules, stand

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out on the cold one hundred people
pass by five people aside. That's a

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lot of effort. David, Oh, that's the people that have come to

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our campaign. I agree. Yeah. And you know, when you look

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at this, it has always made
me so angry. It's one of the

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reasons why I don't like Democrats or
Republicans, especially the institutions that are there,

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because you go back and you look
at the ballot access and then being

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able to get into the debates,
even if you jump through all these extra

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hoops that they set up for everybody
else, then they still won't let you

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in the debates. And the debates
used to be run by the League of

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Women Voters, and then they would
apply a different set of rules and you

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would get a few independent and third
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then Theublicans and Democrats looked at this
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that. So they created a Presidential
Debate Commission and other state commissions. Well

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they did in North Carolina was they
created their debate Commission was run by the

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media, by the press, and
the press coluded with them to keep anybody

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except for Republicans and Democrats out of
the debates because they're looking at the people

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who are going to give them money
and who always give them money, and

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so they would set up these different
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And they say, well, you
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and it's a private entity funded by
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make any rules that they want.
They can exclude anybody that they want.

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And they did the same thing with
the press, and we saw the same

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game being run when they were censoring
people on social media. They said,

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well, these are private companies,
they can do whatever they want. And

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we knew that the censorship was coming
from the federal government. We knew that

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the exclusion was coming from the Democrat
and Republican parties when it came to the

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debates and when it came to the
ballots. It's so transparent, but they

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always use these things constructs to bamboozle
people. This truly is annoying. Yeah,

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and David, they know now people
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so what they're doing is they create
the fake anti establishment people, what I

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call the not so obvious establishment people
who are gotten very good at watching the

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videos I do you do and saying, oh, people really like that.

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So you have now people just talking
the talk. Booby Kennedy just talks to

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talk, right, or Trump or
all of these people, or Alex Jones

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or Joe Rogan. They have the
media that you know and is a part

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of that. They have the Yeah, but they create mainstream alternative media,

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if you will. I call them
the Malaga Bird Press, you know,

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Operation Maga instead of Mocking Bird.
Yeah. Right, So now they have

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the old media and now they have
the neo establishment media of the grifter media

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network. Right, And so we're
in a very important time. But our

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campaign, David, is giving people
this unique opportunity to understand this dynamic,

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to become truly enlightened citizens. And
then we say, hey, look,

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get on the ground, get on
the ground, hand out a flyer.

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You know, people can go to
shop for president dot com. Let people

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understand that what's been going on in
this country for the last sixty years.

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The lifespan of your child now is
less than you. If you have a

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child right now, it's going to
be short. We want people to exercise

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these rights. Yes, it's hard
to go collect signatures, but do it

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because you will have this incredible experience
because you have to realize, Wow,

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I have to collect signatures. I
got to collect one hundred and fifty thousand

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signatures in Florida. How do I
do that? Well, that means you

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got to have you know, one
hundred volunteers who each collect fifteen hundred signatures.

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Well, how do I do that? That means you got to make

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sure You've got to mobilize people.
Then you've got to motivate people to go

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out. That's a lot of work. They don't have to do anything.

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These people are all cheers. They
never work. They never work. They

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never work. They talk about working. You know, we're patriots. We

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want to work right. And by
the way, it's like that a God

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created Trump thing, you know,
talking about how he works all day and

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then he delivers his grandchild and then
he has to you know, make lunch

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for himself and everybody else. I
mean, he's like, what in the

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world it's totally made up, you
know anyway, Sorry, Yeah, well,

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David, I think this is a
key what they're doing is I was

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on a video interview with the young
gentleman, you know, he's in his

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twenties, and he was like,
yeah, the snake says a lot of

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good things. I said, listen, your generation better realize you start you

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have to look at not what people
say, but what they do. That's

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right. They're watching chat GPT,
they have predictive analytics. They will just

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say anything now right, Oh yeah, January sixth was you know, was

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a conspiracy against us? Okay,
they'll just say that. They don't know

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what they're saying. They'll say anything
they need to say to win people back

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to the establishment. That's right,
and that's what this is about. As

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people break, they want to bring
people back in ye and they do not

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want people in closing. What I
want to share, David, what we're

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doing is we're telling people we got
to build this bottoms up movement. We

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have to go do the work.
And what you realize is that the establishment

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does not. It's really class war
in some ways. They do not want

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they have started the class war.
The elites in this case protected Walmart,

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a multi billion dollar company quote unquote
property rights versus the individual's constitutional right to

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rightfully collect signatures during an election cycle
on validate. That's what the cops are

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trained to do or not trained to
assert the constitutional rights. And this is

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deliberate. Me. Let me jump
in there and say that. You know,

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when you look at this situation you
talked about in Kentucky where they violate

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even the federal law, they don't
care about that, just like they often

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violate the constitution. Don't care about
that. And when you experience that,

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and when people see that happening,
and if you're not the one who's arrested

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in strip search and the cavity search, you see that happening to somebody else.

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And I think that another thing that's
very important about this I've said has

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to be from the bottom up,
from the grassroots up, like you're talking

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about. And it drives home the
point to them that I've said all along.

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I said, it's very very important
who is at the local level,

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because they can make things better or
they can make them much worse. In

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this particular case, you got a
federal law that was making things better,

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and then you've got the local officials
there, the police, and whoever is

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over those local officials. They need
to be held accountable in this next election.

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And I hope that is something that
people who are watching this and your

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signature effort. I hope they pay
attention to those local elections. Whether it's

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somebody who's a sheriff or whether it's
a town council that's going out and hiring

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these police, they need to be
held accountable for that particular situation. You

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need to find some people who are
going to support individual liberty or at least

419
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promise that they're going to do,
and then you evaluate them by what they

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do the next election. But that's
the other part of it, is to

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see this tyranny that is happening and
to understand that that's another thing that needs

422
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to be addressed from a grassroots up. Yeah. Yeah, what's interesting David,

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Kentucky is the home of Rand Paul
Thomas Massy, and I tweeted at

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both of them. Okay, now, in my view they say some good

425
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things, but in my view that
you know, just like you have certain

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tokens. You know, Massi is
their token constitutionalist, okay, and Ran

427
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Paul just sort of mimics certain things. But this occurred in Kentucky, a

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red state where people are supposedly patriots. Think about what I'm saying, and

429
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they didn't reply when you tweeted at
him. They didn't have anything, nothing,

430
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nothing. And look he went to
mitm and MIT alumni with him.

431
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Okay, so this is a point
here because he's part of the Republican Party.

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I'm not part of that club,
right, but you should defend the

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rights of Americans whatever they are.
And what I predict is going to happen

434
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in twenty twenty four. The elites
know that they have been conducting class war

435
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against working people in the United States, and people are waking up to that.

436
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So in order to so subsume that
reality, they're going to have blacks

437
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versus whites, fighting red versus blue. And that's how you started this conversation,

438
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David Ooh, Trump versus Biden.
Trump is somehow the victim to Biden

439
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.960
and Biden. You see. So
they're going to create the red versus Blue

440
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.279
quote unquote, you know, civil
war, and it's more vital to them,

441
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.359
not just for their political control,
but even for their economic control.

442
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.960
Jordan Schlacktel has an article saying,
look at the Washington Post. They're going

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bankrupt before Trump, and then they
had a you know, a real boom

444
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during Trump, and now that he's
gone and they've got a cadaver in the

445
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White House, Washington Post is on
the ropes again. So it's to their

446
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advantage, just like as to Biden's
advantage and all the rest of them,

447
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.759
to come after Trump to make him
a victim because it energizes their base.

448
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:48.319
It energizes Trump's base. They get
everybody involved, and it's all over the

449
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.480
personality. It's not over anything that
has to do with them at all.

450
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It's not about any issues. It's
about This isn't competing personalities. It's wrestling.

451
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.559
It's professional wrestling exactly. And this
is a very important point, David.

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I think you know I've made for
a long time when I figured this

453
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.240
out when I was seventeen, that
this is WWF you know, we we

454
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called WWWE wrestling. And the promoters
of the fights are the ones who make

455
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.440
money because they got a hypeit.
The promoters here are the media companies,

456
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:17.599
yes, right to Washington Post,
New York Times. Without this fake dialectic,

457
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they make nothing. And what's even
more interesting is when you actually peel

458
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away the layer, and you find
out that the person who owns WWE,

459
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the person who owns UFC, I'm
talking about the actual person. The person

460
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:37.359
who owns the biggest Hollywood agency which
owns all the actors, and the person

461
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:42.599
who owns many politicians is one guy, Ariy Emmanuel, Ery Emmanuel Ram Emmanuel's

462
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:48.160
brother owns formerly known as William Morris
Agency. He owns all the A list

463
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:51.839
actors, Joe Rogan, all these
people. In fact, he was Trump's

464
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.680
agent for his books. Trump was
going to bring him as the chief of

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staff. But one gentleman who's by
the way, pro zionist, you know,

466
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.880
very close connection with Masat, etc. One person in the United States

467
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whose brother is Rob Emmanuel, and
you can go study the history of this

468
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:16.839
person is a pro ultrazionist who owns
WWE, which is to entertain the masses.

469
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:22.000
He owns UFCD again distract the people, and he owns pretty much every

470
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A list actor in Hollywood who zips
up. And he's the agent. He

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00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:30.119
was the agent of Obama, he's
the agent of Joe Rogan and the agent

472
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.000
of Donald Trump. And you can
look at this one individual. So they

473
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:39.119
are literally conducting political theater, Hollywood
Theater, Worldwide Wrestling theater. And this

474
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is how they're keeping people entertained while
they want to suppress hardworking people like me

475
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:50.799
and you and others David who actually
want to build these bottoms up movements or

476
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.920
are volunteer who takes time off from
his work or on a Sunday goes collect

477
00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:00.839
signatures. So this is anti American
working person. Yes, that's what this

478
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:05.480
is about. They do not want
us having our own leaders. They want

479
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.240
to control the top down, so
they have this media enterprise that gives who

480
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:15.400
gets visibility okay speak anti establishment rhetoric. After you know, Joe Rogan will

481
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:21.240
talk about stuff five years later after
it's you know, or even Tucker.

482
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.160
Yeah, it's like, you know, is funny. I couldn't talk about

483
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:27.160
building seven all this time, and
it's like you can't ask questions about that

484
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.799
or they'll fire. And he's still
not saying what do you think has happened

485
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.519
with him? Yeah? Well whatever. You're not a journalist, because you

486
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:35.920
should be putting here. You're making
twenty million if you're a journalist. Oh

487
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.200
do you need that much money?
Why don't you move out of your house

488
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.799
and be a real journal sacrifice something. Oh, I couldn't do that.

489
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.359
Well, why couldn't you do that? Because you needed to have close relationships

490
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.440
with Hunter Biden, live in the
same area, so here, so Hunter

491
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.000
Biden could write recommendation letters for your
son. You're a sellout. You were

492
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.880
always a sellout. Don't talk about
now you're a martyr. You never put

493
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:59.160
your ass on the line. And
that's what these people are. They make

494
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:04.200
themselves into be fake martyrsolt theater.
But what happened in Franklin, Kentucky was

495
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.440
not theater. What occurs to our
volunteers every day when they go out and

496
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:13.320
any independent candidate who really is bottoms
up the intimidation they have to face the

497
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.480
education we have to do on the
basic laws that should be unnecessary in the

498
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.199
United States. That's right, but
that's what we've become, David. And

499
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.400
this is where the real election fraud
begins, with ballot access, with who

500
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:29.320
gets visibility, and then they have
the other election fraud on election night.

501
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:34.360
And I've experienced all four versions of
election fraud as a federal candidate. Hmm.

502
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.920
And then of course I got a
lot worse with all the lockdowns and

503
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:39.360
you can't vote in person and we're
going to mail out ballots to you.

504
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.960
That was a whole new level of
fraud. That's right. And I said

505
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.280
to people in twenty twenty, I
said, I'm not voting for Trump.

506
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.800
Oh you're gonna support Biden. It's
like, no, I don't support Biden

507
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.239
either with this stuff. But I
said, look at why are we even

508
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:55.519
having an election if he turned over
the government to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats

509
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.719
and then he adds this layer of
corruption. And everybody was talking about what

510
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.480
was going happened months before. It
was going to be total chaos, total

511
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.400
fraud, and it was. And
then they motivate, They mobilized everybody into

512
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.880
a fundraising aspect that culminated into you
know, from the Save America to the

513
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.679
Stop to Steal in January the sixth. It's such an amazing fraud all the

514
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:21.079
way through. This talk a little
bit though about what you tell people in

515
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.400
terms of you mentioned the life issues
and things like that. You've got a

516
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:31.880
much broader message than just politics.
Yeah, you're talking about health and truth

517
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.119
and freedom, those things, right, David. Yeah. Yeah. Look

518
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:39.920
so David, I have been a
student of understanding systems, all systems,

519
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:46.119
systems of power, engineering systems,
health systems systems and what I you know,

520
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:52.320
having grown up you know in a
cast system, right, Having seen

521
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.360
this, having grown up as a
working class kid in New Jersey, I

522
00:35:54.440 --> 00:36:00.400
realized there are these hard working people
who keep getting mistreated. So I was

523
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.440
really interested in understanding these systems of
power. And I realized that if you're

524
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.039
ever going to change, if you're
ever going to build anything, like build

525
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.400
a new world, change the world, you always need scientific principles. And

526
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.480
engineers know this. If you're going
to build an iPhone, you better understand

527
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.159
some basic physics, right, if
you're going to build anything. And what

528
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:22.840
I uncovered, David, was the
foundations of all systems in the world.

529
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:28.760
All systems in the world, David, come down to engineering principles which were

530
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.960
discovered in the nineteen twenties. They
actually date back thousands of years. And

531
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.800
what I used to teach it in
my team, we've started educating people on

532
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:42.719
understanding systems principles. It should be
tired of kindergarten and what those systems principles

533
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.320
reveal, David, without getting into
the physics of it, but simply put,

534
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:53.360
there's a deep connection between freedom,
truth and health. Freedom and when

535
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:58.159
you study the systems principles, it's
the aspect of motion, movement of things.

536
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.400
In engineering we call it the word
transport, movement of information, matter,

537
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:06.360
and energy. Freedom is an important
principle for any society. Me being

538
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.800
able to talk, move freely,
physically, move right, information, mattern

539
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:15.039
and energy, you know, communicate
through media. Now with freedom you can

540
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:20.280
have or transport, as we say
in dugery, you can have another process

541
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.360
which is essential nature called conversion,
taking things from one form and converting them.

542
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.039
So in the area of truth,
you and I can have all sorts

543
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.760
of ideas. Why it apple falls
to the earth, right, But when

544
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:36.159
you have freedom, scientific freedom,
where you can have discourse, we have

545
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.480
to put all of our ideas.
You have to apply the scientific method,

546
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:43.000
you have to do experiments, and
then you have to validate it. That's

547
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:47.039
the conversion process in this case,
right of taking ideas. You know,

548
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.639
in the open marketplace of ideas,
you come to truth. Truth is really

549
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.760
a verb right because it's always being
refined. Right. Because you may find

550
00:37:54.760 --> 00:38:01.639
today that you know that the laws
of motion relate to a certain body of

551
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:05.440
laws, but when things move at
the speed of light, you have to

552
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.639
change them. That was Einstein's right. It wasn't Newton was wrong, but

553
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.880
you have to refine it. So
truth is a process that cannot exist without

554
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.559
this process of free flow of information. But when you have freedom and truth,

555
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:21.679
now you can talk about your physical
infrastructure, health, your physical health,

556
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.039
right, the health of your economy, your country. But you need

557
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.760
all three. Without health, you
can't really fight for freedom or truth.

558
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:34.199
So you need all these strength.
So our movement, our campaign, as

559
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.800
we have in our booker sticker by
the way, quick little pitch, I

560
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.840
want everyone to go get one of
these because you can reach one hundred thousand

561
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:42.039
people if you place this on the
back of your car. It's a way

562
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.960
that you can have a lot of
freedom but truth, freedom and health basically

563
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.360
says you can't just talk about the
First Amendment and Second Amendment. You have

564
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.000
to physically take care of your health. You have to learn how to take

565
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.960
care of your economic health, and
you have to learn the process of science

566
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:59.440
how you achieve truth. Right.
So that's why David, I think you

567
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.679
and I can sure when you look
at it from a truthful standpoint, Trump

568
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:07.440
is not one of us. He
didn't fight for us. Okay, Alex

569
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.920
Jones, is you and I have
talked about this is theatrics. He knew

570
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.679
Trump was bad, but he was
making money selling his supplements to the magagrat.

571
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.840
Right, that's not a truthful person. So when you are willing to

572
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.800
truly be a fighter for truth,
freedom, health, you concur and you

573
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.199
come to the conclusion that we need
to build the bottoms up movement. So

574
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.480
our campaign is number one based on
help. One of the areas is healthcare.

575
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:36.320
And by the way, every Thursday's, David, we do orientations open

576
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.239
house Thursday at eleven am or eight
pm. People can go to Shiva for

577
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.039
President slash town hall and sign up
or Vishiva dot com slash orientation. We

578
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:51.199
do these open houses and our open
houses David Rotate, Okay. One open

579
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:55.320
house is on healthcare. And when
we talk about healthcare, David, we

580
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:59.679
don't say after I get into office. We actually teach people with the immune

581
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.639
system is how they can take care
of their immune system. As a PhD

582
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:07.119
in systems biology, it's my full
time job. You take care of their

583
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.440
immune system, you take care of
your entire body. The immune system is

584
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:14.079
deeply linked with aging systems. So
we're teaching people that, David, We're

585
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.840
teaching millions of people right now.
Becoming president, I'll use a bully pulpit

586
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:22.199
of the White House to reach billions. The next thing we talk about is

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00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:28.639
environment. What is our environment policy, Support your local farmers, support local

588
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.280
food. You know, once you
get into that and different economy establishes,

589
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.639
we teach people how to do that
at our open houses. Next week.

590
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.880
Talk about education, David. Since
nineteen seventy, after the Department of Education

591
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:45.039
took over, people are not learning
how to think. They're being told what

592
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:51.639
to think. Now, how to
think is the system's process. You know,

593
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:53.599
we live in a world of complex
systems. So you know, I've

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00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:59.039
built a whole body of curriculum That've
been doing for years at Truthfreedom Health dot

595
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:04.239
com. People it's free for anyone
thirteen through eighteen, and if you're an

596
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.679
adult, you take and you can
give it away free. It's in homage

597
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.360
to one of my mentors, Jay
Forrester, who believe that at the young

598
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:14.559
age we have to teach people how
to think. System sinking is the way.

599
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.079
So we teach people that innovation,
David, Innovation, you don't need

600
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.800
to be in Silicon Value, you
don't need to go to MIT now here's

601
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.960
my copyright for the invention of email. I did this before I came to

602
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.199
MIT, when I was a fourteen
year old kid working in Newark. So

603
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:32.559
they're very smart people outside the bastions
of major academia, and that's where most

604
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:37.039
of the great innovations came from.
A fourteen year old boy actually created TV

605
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.840
in Franklin, Idaho. Right,
So it's important. So we teach people

606
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.920
as an innovator, what are the
seven key critical things to innovate? Right,

607
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.079
But we are doing these in these
open houses, David, we're doing

608
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.239
more than the National Science Foundation.
And then we teach people governance. What

609
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:58.880
are the attributes of a leader?
Right? Do you say the right thing

610
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.920
at the right time? You know, Tucker Carlson is not any leader.

611
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:07.119
He delays truth. Glenn Greenwald is
not any leader. He watches which way

612
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.679
the wind blows. Right. Each
people are using when they expose truth,

613
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.199
it's for entertainment value. They never
say the right thing, and in fact,

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when they expose truth, they expose
a little piece of it. And

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then finally, David, we talk
about the economy. You know, last

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open house, we actually taught people
what compound interest is. Okay, why

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you should take. You know,
what is a diversified portfolio. No other

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presidential candidates teaching people. We are
teaching the working people how to take care

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of their bodies, how to eat
the proper foods. You know, how

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they educate their children from a system
standpoint, and so on. So our

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campaign is already delivering solutions and the
entire you know, our movement is delivering

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solutions to win truth, freedom,
health. That's what we're about, and

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that's what I've been doing all my
life, David. These people create problems.

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I create solutions. Right, they
create problems, We create solutions.

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It's very simple. And if you
can look at this graft, David,

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look at the problem they've created since
nineteen seventy sixties to today, the light.

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If you have a child today,
your child's lifespan is going to be

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shorter than yours. Right, they
create problems, they create problems, invalid

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access, everywhere they go, they
create problems, and then like you said,

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David, they create the dialectic ooh, I'm going to solve the problem

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left and right and give me money, send emails, give me money.

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So they create problems, they create
the chaos, and they need that to

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run their business model. Yeah,
oh absolutely, yeah, it's you know,

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and by design, I mean they're
not stupid, they're not flunkies,

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they weren't deceived. It's a very
clever, calculated thing. And so that's

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why it's important for you to counter
this and to show people. You know,

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I talk frequently about just the free
speech aspect and propaganda and how this

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has grown from newspapers to radio to
television, and then when they go to

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social media, what does that bring
to the table. They've got a closed

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loop feedback system. They can praxiicly
measure their propaganda, and they can fine

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tune their narrative in real time,
and then they don't have to try to

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approximate it with poles or anything like
that. They've got it exactly. And

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so that's what we're up against.
We're up against people who are very calculating,

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people who are very smart designing.
They've got a long time frame that

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they're working on this stuff, and
so that's why it's very important what you're

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doing in terms of pointing this out
to people, getting people, educating them

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to make their life better. And
of course a part of that I think

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is the politics. We've got to
stop these people from coming at us,

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and it's important to find that at
every level, you know, from bottom

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up. And I think that's exactly
what you're doing. I really do appreciate

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what you're doing, doctor Shiva,
thank you for coming on and explaining that

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to us. It's very important how
this system is rigged from the get go.

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You know, they folk get little
things and they blow them up and

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micro focus on them. And the
micro focus is simply talking about how it

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affects Trump. We don't even care
about anything else. That's what's truly amazing.

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Thank you for joining us again.
It is thanks for President dot Com.

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Thank you very much, Docter she
and David, thanks for doing God's

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work man, thank you, thank
you. I'm your today, Well,

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me, I mean, trust the
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