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with it. He just didn't want to go all the way there with it
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dance steps like rough and then I would be okay, your two left.
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That's different. That was different. That was different my situation. I
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And I couldn't you know, I couldn't sure sure sure that was a
long time in the parking lot here I was ten years ago. Let go
in the past about forty got you know what is at it? You know
I'm talking about. I couldn't you know, I couldn't get. I couldn't
know we're talking about even if he wasn't like you still would have to left.
I know your head. I'll tell you that this is iculous. Okay,
let's play off time so well depends on your city. So let's go
ahead and get into it. Shoot around before we get into other things.
There was a NBA. There was an NBA Players Why poll taking over a
few topics. I want to compare. I want to put the question out
there to compare the answers to what the general consensus was. The first side
note, did you see the Yankees score thirty points on us in two days?
I just had to throw that out there. You say, thirty points
of thirty runs, thirty runs points whatever they had fifteen yesterday in fifteen today,
Yes, Brukol looks that back. Yes, but fifteen runs this preseason,
right, No, yes, agog thirty runs. This is why we
are a basketball podcast exclusive pleesus christ Man. You trying to ain't nothing going
right for the home Boys. But just like this last month, I ain't
be able to watch TV like that though, you know my brother is working.
It is that time here, it's the mouse wonderful time. It's just
a horrible time here. But the first question, you're building a roster from
scratch, who are you going to sign first? Anybody in the league.
You sign anybody in the league. Who are you going to sign first?
Today? Today? This is whoever you want to do. Now, I'm
not talking about past players. They actually obviously have to be active in the
NBA. But you can sign anybody. Yes, you can sign Lebron,
right, all right, there you go Lebron James Keith Dre Joker mm hmm,
Joker, I for me go ahead? No, go ahead? Break
down your answer? Well, besides, you know number one thing, But
yeah, besides that was I'll go since he still thinks, were you ready
or no? Go ahead? Okay, Joker? Simply because two time MVP
should be four time back to back MVP, but we know there's a such
thing as MVP fatigue. He's a walking triple double. He's the best big
man since Shaquille O'Neill. He will probably go down as probably a top ten
to fifteen center. The NBA has had years of good centers, but make
no mistakes about it that the NBA is Jokers for as long as he wants
it to be, especially if Denver can stay healthy on the up and up.
So if I have to start right now, I'm going with Joker plays
both ends of the court. Defense offensively, yes he does. Most of
his rebounds are off are defensive rebounds, so does defense. He puts up
block shots too. From my little average double double me, he was the
best defender. He puts up, he puts up assists, he gets blocks,
he does all that. Joker is the best player in basketball right now.
I'm going with Joker. And he doesn't be injured as much as some
of the other superstars, which is wide and pick Giannis, which is why
I didn't pick step because Joker is good to play most of the seasons I
am. I'm also gonna go if I was building a team from scratch,
I do want to go. I want to go Joker just because I feel
like he can. He can. I compare him with almost any other superstar,
and I feel like he's a very unselfish player, even though he is
a walking triple double, even though he is these things that Drake talked about.
I don't know about the defense on the defensive end, I think it's
lacking. But because he's so good on the offensive end and he has a
high basketball IQ, I feel like and he does it with ease. He
dember is the number one defensive team in the NBA, right or not?
Yes, they are. I'm sorry, Minnesota, Minnesota is Denver is like
number two or three just at the ranking. Come on, I'm it's not
because him, because of Murray. As a team, they are. They
have a good cat, they have a good cast. It's not because it's
not Joker individually, like Rudy Gobert there for. Defensively, the Denver Nuggets
are number two in in in the regular season. Minnesota is number one right
now in the playoffs. So give Denver some respect. And if you're saying
that it's not because a Joker, that's shady. I'm saying is what I'm
saying. What I'm saying him, okay, because I have to say Anthony
Davis is getting his is getting his, So it's not about him. Yeah,
he was excluded from the top three, So is he really getting his
I'm saying I'm talking about doing his points. I'm not saying defense. I'm
saying getting his points. Well, you just switched the story, dude,
I'm not switching. The point is this. He is a He's sort of
a liability on the defensive man, Joker. If you can, if you,
if you, if you have to point at one aspect of his game
where it's lacking, it's going to be the defensive. It's lacking. And
he doesn't really care about basketball. I can know. Would you imagine if
Joker really cared about basketball, he'd be even ten times better? He probably
would. But what I'm saying is, how do you know he don't care
about basketball? Because he says it in his interviews all the time that good
and don't care. Bro, he does not care. Naturally, that's not
his first love. But he cares. I think he cares too, But
I also think care him. It's to him, it's a job. It's
a job. That's what I'm saying, but his best ability though. Yeah,
But what I'm saying is if he walked away from the game today,
he would not care. He wouldn't care. When they won the championship and
they said to him the parades in the morning, he said, Oh,
I'm trying to get back home to wherever he's from. Here, That's all
I'm saying. I mean, he's he's made it clear that his his passion,
his horses and stuff like that. Yeah, I get that. But
what I'm saying is, if you can point out an aspect of his game
where it's lacking, it would be the D. Let's not say lacking,
Let's say make improvement, because you don't become you don't become a near four
time m v P with lacking defense. I'm sorry. Yeah, you can
pick one who was a Russell Westbrook helas Hard James Harden. James Harden has
not won an MVP yet, has he He went one? He won one,
he won back to back. James Harden did not went back to back.
I don't even think he won one. But when he did want one
and Nis Edge the mount and he was pissed, Yeah, he won one.
So what I'm saying Russell Westbrook played defense. He played every pie.
Every time somebody wins the m v P, it's not because they are a
defensive style, not saying that, it's because they they take their game.
They take their game and their team to an elevated level. Without Joker on
the Nuggets, they wouldn't be who they are. But it's not because he's
on the defensive end shutting it down. If he was shutting it down,
guess what they would have got swept? Yeah, swept the Lakers. Lakers
scared at Anthony Davis. Anthony David. This has never been in this series
getting his money. He ain't been shutting down to fifteen. Joker averages nine
and a half defensive rebounds per game. What does this have to do with
his defensive stopping nothing? They were number one or two for no reason as
a team because the points. Don't sit here and tell me that they are
a threat on the defensive end. They're not. He's had almost as good
as defensive games as he's had offensive games. Yes he has. If timver
doesn't be if he was just so good on the defensive end, he wouldn't
be getting triple doubles. He'd been getting quadruple doubles, but he doesn't get
that. He gets ten boards, twenty five points in ten assists. He
could elevate his team. The Denver Nuggets wouldn't be second in defense if Joker
wasn't helping lead that defensive stop. That's all I'm saying. You can't say
what's what's lacking on? What's on the great defensive chemistry that Joker is a
great defender. I'm saying they are if you asked me, sometimes he got
two left feet on defense, and you can That's what I'm saying. There's
no there's no like Anthony. Anthony Davis wouldn't be doing what Anthony Davis is
doing this series if he was a defensive stopper. He's not a defensive stopper.
And it's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. He's still an MVP.
But you can't say he's say that I said he Defensive rebounds are part
of defense. What are you saying, box to play basketball? Yeah,
you, Defensive rebounds are not a part of defense. Rebounds of different categories,
blocks and steels and what your opponent had blocks and high school basketball coach
occasionally, defensive rebounds are not a part of defense. You have to defend
to get defensive rebounds. So it's a part of defense, right, But
that doesn't mean that he is defending to the ability that that's why he's getting
his rebounds. He's seven foot and then on top of that, you can
you can there's not a lot you can make that you can make that for
Giannis. Giannis is a defensive stopper. He's all he's all Joker, a
defensive stopper. What you're saying his defense isn't lacking, it is. Y'all
got to remember we're playing, we're playing in the error with a big man
that's out There is a not a lot of good big man out there.
So that's why Jokers stands out as much as he does. There's not a
lot of good big man. There's at least ten Victor one. Cat Anthony
has improved itself. Anthony Davis Cat is okay, chat homegroom, They're okay,
okay, come on, you're telling me what you think. Hold on,
just think of this. What do you think like a team shack Duncan
Malone. What you think they gonna do to somebody like check up by him?
They would eating him alive? I said, we in the era where
big men are not as good as they used to be. There, they're
possibly more agile than they used to be. They're shooting three pointers and they
still playing point guard. Hurt every other game, most of them, not
all, not even them. I hurt every other game outside of Joker probably
he's the only big man who plays not even of his games. The rest
of them are playing sixty five to maybe seventy five percent of their game that
the most. And that's why I can't pick or other players to be the
guy I will start with. Who you start with? I just wanted to
I din't even finish my because arguing with you, but my thing is yeah,
I said yeah, I said joking Joker. To be honest with you,
I probably would go with Anthony Edwards. I like Anthony Edwards, and
I say that because the dude play fearlessly, and I love players who play
fearlessly because when you play with that type of energy, it affects your team
offensively and it affects your team defensively. And that's why Minnesota is looking as
good as they do is because even though Anthony Edwards know he that dude,
he also standing on it like he that dude, I like when he just
got a little bit more learning to do and to become the superstar that everybody
know he can be. Dude, is gonna be something we talk about in
the next five years, Like, yeah, we should have been saying Anthony
Edwards. I'm happy for him, and I'm happy for Minnesota, you know,
as a small team market here. I like to see the changing of
the guard in the NBA. And with that said, I'm glad you didn't
pick Lebron and I notice isn't on your docket, as you call it,
But a little bit of my respect for him kind of went out the window
Lebron when he did that press conference and he uttered the comments at the end
of the day, this is just basketball. When they were losing, when
they were down three zero, he made it seem like them asking him questions
about losing in the game wasn't important and neither was basketball. MJ would have
never done that, Kobe would have never done Always let me finish. Why
do y'all got to reference everything to somebody because he Why not judging based off
of just him? Because he always hollering about being the goat and people always
he doesn't holler about being to go to everybody who likes and wants him to
be to go. People have put Brian on a pedestal and for him to
say that about the game of basketball, like he's just a job like joker.
That's not what goes. That's not what he meant by that. I
don't think that's not what he meant by that. That's just bothering you,
bothering you. You just got louder because people scrutinize him off of everything he
do. B he's the only person in NBA history who has been scrutinized off
of every single thing they do. I didn't like it. He can cough
at the podium and people are gonna be like, it don't matter. I
didn't like it. Come on, be be honest. For what your life.
If he coughed at the podium, people go have something to say that,
like, oh, COVID, he might have brought COVID to the league.
But no, no, no, you know why that's not there because
he gets equally mount of praise for being a humanitarian that he is in the
community. Why why didn't get that? And I see this stuff? Why
don't Why don't give this any Why they don't get this energy to k D,
Why don't get he gonna get He's gonna get this smoke too, Smoke
he gonna get smoke right now, smoke too, but by smoking him like
a packing new Ports over there in Minnesota. But goats don't make comments like
that. Two things to me, Let me just get your things true.
Let me get this two things. Let me just get Let me just let
me get this out. Let me get this out. Let me get this
out. Since I said I'm fired up, the Bucks need to get rid
of their GM, since they're allowing yann Is to run a team with a
player that's taking up a spot. But I'll save that for Bucks. Talk
to the Milwaukee Bucks have disappointed the city they are about to lose. Was
at home on Tuesday, and we could thank the Gem for part of that.
Crack Lebron was bogus and he should do better. That was bogus.
Number one. Number number one, holds don't talk about t about tell about
tut caause were just talking over it, y'all, just doing a little bro
Lebron bait. That doesn't matter. Let me just wrap this up real quick.
Number one, Yes, pop two things can't be true at the same
time, Yes, they can. Did I like the comment? I didn't
like the comment because he he I didn't. I won't go I won't go
as heavy as he did. What do I say that was heavy? Zeke?
What did I say that? He was making it seem like he was
making it seem like Lebron was doing that because I'm gonna live my life after
basketball exactly what he was. It was real. I'll say this was this
a say about the comment? It was real? No, shalot, let's
move on. Yeah, it was. But I know, but I understand
where Lebron is coming from because he can't. Thanks Tom. Actually I was
looking at that, but then I've seen the game was over unless they finished
chuck of two threes. But my thing is when he said it, sometimes
Lebron can't because he's in his position keys, he can't express itself how he
wanted to, and he knows that. And but the game was frustrating.
He was he he was frustrated. It was get that. It was more
of a sarcastic comment based off of you know what I'm saying, swept again
people not people, not really, but how he's I do. I understand
the perspective because he's losing three nothing. I can't beat these guys I want
to talk about. He like, I can't what y'all want me to say?
Hold on, what y'all want me to say? I'm losing and I'm
getting frustrated. What y'all want me to say? And I can't say what
I want to say because he could have said. What pisses me off is
we got people on our team like the De'angelo Russell just sitting over there acting
like he don't care, snacking on about Yeah, he snacking on some snacks
like a little kid, instead of being involved in the huddle. I don't
care. We down by fifty. You better bring up to this huddle.
But he couldn't say that. He couldn't throw nobody underneath the bus, so
he brushed it off. He's like, Hey, at the end of the
day, it's just a game. I'm trying to move on such and such
and such. I understand his perspective, so I wasn't mad at the comments.
So I wasn't that. But it's not appropriate for a game to say.
But you're saying this like you don't know who Lebron is come out,
come out. Lebron also said this maybe not last year with the reporter and
I let it go when he started talking about when they were losing again.
He's like, at the end of the day, I'm going home to my
family. I'm going to live my life just like y'all gonna go live.
Y'alls what because that is salty comment. He's frustrated, but you can't be
a goat and let that emotion show. Look, Lebron, Lebron's doing it
this way, Lebron, Michael Jordan did it a different way. Michael Jordan
did frustration where he was see testing stuff out. But Michael Jordan did it
where he would just come at his teammates and we wouldn't know about it until
twenty years later. So everybody, this is a different era. So I
understand where Lebron is coming from. Is you down three nothing and they asking
you how you feel about losing? How you thinking about losing? Anthony Davis
is moving back five feet every time the Joker take a deep breath. The
Angelo Russell is not engaged. This is wait. If it wasn't for Anthony
Davis, y'all wouldn't have won the game. Last night talking about his offensive
game. I'm talking about defensively. Every time Joker go he came back up,
he go back five feet. This is like, you can't do that.
Stand on ground and be a man. Hey, Anthony Davis, Anthony
Davis wondering why he's not in a finalist for defus Lay of the Year.
We just have to look at the footage because Jokers running amuck a muck.
Now, I will give it to Anthony Davis like it did before. He
doing what he gotta do. He's the reason that the Lakers are winning.
He's day and close to the game. Then. You know what, I
can't wait for this season to end because I believe there are going to be
so many roster changes this summer. Watch they can't afford it. Not for
I'm not talking Lakers, I'm talking Philly. I'm talking Milwaukee. Okay,
okay, if Milwaukee, if Milwaukee loses, it's going to be definitely some
change. Injury or not. They're gonna blame injuries. You know we lost
in a row. We lost here now, no, no, no,
go back to your top. Let's say go back to your your chest today.
All right, So here, why, here's what the drunk wine,
but yet I didn't have any. I'm sure, but this is what the
NBA player tad uh the NBA player picked. They picked the Victor Wingspan told
you did just swards last week. It's not announcing them. They did.
Finnnounced two awards. Then that was two. Are you done? I'm watching
NBA sty Next question because dren't want today we did. Okay, what's the
league's most underrated player? Mostly underrated player. I'm gonna go with Jaylen Brunson.
I'm gonna go with Jaylen Brunson. I'm gonna be honest with you.
It's contract show he ain't underrated. Well, you know it's con No,
that doesn't mean that he got a lot of big names. Tobias Harris got
paid, but he's over rated four years ago, Drew Holliday for you know,
players are getting back paper. So let's not judge that I didn't even
recognize Jalen Bronson to be a household name until we started this podcast, because
you don't watch basketball. The point is you almost made me say you almost
made me say him and Josh Hart. And let's not act like the oversion
that this podcast didn't start was because we were in Kobe talking basketball via text
message. Okay, clearly I watched basketball. I'm talking besides Golden State,
I got NBA League Pass. I watched basketball. What does that mean?
You use it? I do all the time? You using it? Stars
is off. I guess, well, there's no power right now. But
Jalen Brunson I think is most underrated simply because although the Knicks are doing well,
he does not get the superstar treatment. You don't think so, I
don't think so. I don't think so. I think I think this year
he you know what, I'm gonna just wanna say that, Dre. I
think this has been his his his his year of it's coming out yere.
I don't say coming out year because last year was just coming out year.
I think last year was just coming out year. I think this is the
year where what we recognize what you mean, is he the reason, the
reason name winning? I'm saying finally, yeah, So I'm gonna say he
scored seven points yesterday, two days ago. I know he's better than that.
Is just like, dude, what did it be going on in the
playoffs where somebody almost got to put a gun to your head for you to
take game. Took it out real quick because just to let our audience know,
we kind of watching the end of the Dallas two of them are two
of them are I'm paying attention because because you own one exactly because you're doing
to me. You're not doing to me turn around three times in a row,
exactly what. But the point I'm making it just the y'all just focused
on you because we have good views. But real quickly, filthy animal,
No, really quickly though, Paul, without without Kawhi Leonard, Without Kawhi
Leonard, the l A Clippers can now not depend on just Kawhi like you
know how the office is circled around him like they do Lebron like the you
do every superstar. But with him out, James Harden has to step up.
Paul Jordan has a reason to step up, like they have a reason
to, but before they didn't have a reason to. I'll say this about
the Wuhi won't be good for the rest of the series. By the way,
I'll say this since we're talking about it. I picked the Clippers,
but I would be okay if Dallas one because I'm tired. I'm tired of
James Harden. He always gets into these great situations and does nothing with them.
Go ahead, what's what's play? These are start the first half?
I thought, what's good doctor? But no, what's Kesey? Who was
the most underrated player the team? If? If y'all don't like my Jaylen
Bruston pick, I'll go with you. Don't have to worry about out.
Okay, your pick? Thank you don't make any sense episode? What type
of week you had? What? How was your week? It was great?
Man? Life is good Man. He came sometime. I don't know
what had Man. You was twenty minutes late and you were sitting here.
Didn't tell them about but talked about I just you are? Okay? What's
you? Who's your most underrated player? To be to be fake, I'm
also pretty upset about the Bucks. Not gonna lie to you, I'm pretty
upset about the Bucks because now it's the reason I'm upset is because every year
it makes our twenty twenty one championship look more fluky. But go ahead with
your underrated player? Who you got most underrated player? Most underrated player?
To me? Do you need a list? Who the NBA? I'm gonna
say you want to get your list I'll give you a list. The NBA
ranked their eight most underrated players, number one being no, no, no,
no, don't do that. Well, it's only eight. They did
a long have the longer list. But the point that I can give you
give me somebody who I'll give you top five. I'm not in no order,
just top five according to his record, and then I'll give you mine.
Which one? Who's your source? I don't know what article are you
reading. I'm time reading from an article something I found. Anyway, we
have who's this on the list. Drew Holliday's on this list. He's not
on s g A yep, uh, Fox, he's not on the Dalen
Williams, Derek White, Cody White. So according to Bleacher Report, and
I probably didn't get you didn't get this top five yet. I don't want
you to do hot five. You didn't do that for Bleacher though, because
because your list is way different from Bleacher and Casey, who you got I'm
going to say, I don't even know, dude, So Bleachers, this
is what Bleacher says. You just said? What who do you got?
What? You? Honestly, I still have you know what this looking at
this list? To be really honest with you, I feel like s g
A he's on this one too, is probably the most underrated player. I
think like this year is he but this I feel like this year he's See.
I still like I feel like there's always a knock against him, and
is that he's still young. So when you when you when you're reading or
when you're reading the scouting report for okay, see he's on that scouting report
just because he's the best player in that team. But there's not like do
we gotta double him? And do we have to double him? Is it?
Is there a reason? Man, We'll just put somebody on him and
then we'll shut him down and keep it moving. I just feel like he
don't have the respect that he should as a top three person who's the MVP.
So that's why I'm giving that. But since Dre really wants to do
this, go ahead, No, because he was having trouble naming players,
so I'm gonna just go get I didn't want my I didn't want your top
eighth to influence his answer. That's why I said, you know you're fighting.
I mean, Jalen Shucks is on there, Alex carusso because I don't
think really superstars can be considered underrated, Like to me, Jayleen Brounson didn't.
Really, he's not the superstar yet right if you think about top ten,
he's not in the top ten bestball this year or overall NBA right now,
right now, Yeah, he's not top ten, and that's a stretch.
Tobias Harris is on there. Not sure why Shay is on there.
Overrated, underrated, underrated, chet holmegrims on there, Scottie Barnes is on
there, Paul George and Alperin Segan is on there from uh the person,
the person that the NBA the NBA players picked out of one hundred and twenty
six votes was Derek White and Jalen Williams. I don't think y'all know who
Jayleen Williams is from. Okay, See, Yeah, as I watched basketball
and actually I would like to change my vote. I would. I'm gonna
say this because I think and I think unfortunately his experiment, his experiment is
going to end after the season. I'm going with I'm gonna go with Bobby
Portis. I'm gonna go with Bobby Portis because once again they passed him up
for six Man of the Year and we're good to talk to that. With
that, I'm gonna go with Bobby Portis. I like that. I'm gonna
take it back. I'm gonna go with Bobby Porter's. I don't think people
appreciate the only reason that the Bucks are in games when Giannie is hurt is
because Bobby comes in and puts up double doubles off the bench. I don't
think Bobby. And you know what's funny though, usually a six man can
the point of a six minutes that he can replace the starter. But he's
just not a starter. Yeah, think about Bobby Is. I don't like
him in that starting position. Be really honest with you. Well, get
ready to see him tonight in that starting position. Yeah. Who else who's
gonna start in place of Day? Well, obviously nobody because we don't have
the depth. Oh, ben, I bet who is fifteen? Who's the
best defender in the NBA? Victor Biaba? Victor Wan Biaba might be the
first player to win did he get nominated for Defense Play of the Year.
He might be the first player win Rookie of the Year Defensive Player of the
Year in the same year. I don't think he's the first. I think
a king perhaps but I'm gonna go with Victor beyond but and obviously you because
the eight feet yeah, but still don't matter. I'm gonna go Victor.
I'm good with the Victor. Are you ready to make it to a wrong
about Victor already minted that two weeks ago? Did you keep saying it?
I would say one more time now you know what I was going to but
you just ruined it. Congratulations. I was gonna do it, but he
did it again. So there you go, dre ruined it for you.
Kesey. What who's the best defender in the NBA. So to finish up,
the other part was, i'mna just go with what Andre said. Key
said, y'all not gonna just skip keep skipping me. I'm gonna just say
Jaylen Bronson at the end of the day, I like that what he's done
for New York and their fans and bringing life back to that city for basketball.
But you do you feel like he's not getting his just dude, because
I think he's getting his just dude with sports commentating and stuff like that.
Like the NBA knows he is who he is, the players know who he
is who he is, the GM know who he is who he is because
they paid him right, but they don't talk about him enough and and praise
him enough. I think the first comes up when you talk about the Knicks.
When you're talking about the Knicks, but outside of the Knicks, you
don't talk about him. You don't talk about him in no debates. I
mean, Dre did disrespect him saying he's not top ten. He's not.
He is, he's not. I mean that's why he's underrated right now,
lebron K d uh sh uh. Okay, you said shot, yeah,
that's that's five. But did you say Jack No, lebron kd Yann Sga,
Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, James Harden. Okay, James Harden,
You're not James Harden not better than Brunston. Stop it, Anthony, David,
Kyrie, Irvin Luka, doncic uhum. Let's see who else. That's
nine. So you said team right now, you're looking crazy. You asked,
so I gave him to you. You're telling me he better than Kyrie.
I'm saying, just here's not two things about this. Two things Number
one, James Harden and Kyrie. Irvan has been in this league a lot
longer than him. He's twenty seven, but I feel like, give him
a couple more years. That's not the question you asked, though he'll be
in their same position, but that's not what you ask So when you say,
if you let me finish, well finish, I will do you Is
there a Timelock I'm looking on it's Tom Clack, but you s but you
keep saying like you gotta answer randrupt question is a dig getting that because I'm
you asked me my opinion is Jalen Brunston's top team? No, but my
thing is my thing is this when you talk about when you talk about when
you talk about when you talk about Jayleen Brunson, and you talk about these
players better than him. I feel like you're doing that off the resume,
which is justified, Jason Tatum, which is justified. But I feel like
when you talk about players like I got I say young player, I'll say
young players. When you talk about these young players, he's on that list
of guys who are getting up and gun. He's top fifteen, top,
he's up and coming, he's top twenty. So when you said that's why
I called him underrated, So I got so tu this out Steph Curry,
Lebron, James KD is starting to get skeptical, but I'll throw him in
there. Gianni's Joker, Uh Tatum, Lou Kah s g A, Anthony
Edwards, Cat, What's what's the disrespect with Cat? What do you mean?
What's the disrespect? What you give me? Disrespecting Cat? Bro?
These the guys you're starting to name haven't done nothing. Like after you get,
after you go, Lebron, Steph k D, after you go,
those three that list have done something, starts to get a little thin.
No, it doesn't. What is what is what is Jaydon Tatum? What
is Jason Tatum done? What is Jason Tatum done? Go ahead, two
seasons in a row with the with the best record in the NBA, that's
his team, all Star appearances, leading the league in scoring? Where's that
at? Where is it that for Jaylen? That's my point, Jason,
That's my point. Jason Tatum has like okay, okay, hold on second.
Same thing with Luca, same thing with Luca. If you talk about
what they've done, it gets a little I'm glad you know that. I'm
glad you know that now. And for me to say I like Luca.
But me, let's just talk about what it is now, like when you
talk about the conference for the Luca hate, No, this is Big three
because everybody gives these players like he's saying all of this praise, who ain't
done nothing. They ain't doing nothing. We're going on skill alone. And
when you talk about skill alone, these guys are he's top ten. But
when you talk and taking over a game, New York is undersized and they're
a little under man and you're sucking. They finished win four to one on
Philly an injured Philly, a banged up Phillies. Phillies is not as good
as a person. Phillies is not as good as no because just like you
said with the Bucks, we don't care about no. We don't care about
that. Where are you supposed to be at and at least Eastern Conference finals.
That's how the expectation is, y'all. We really do love each other.
We are not this hostile usually, No, this is just passionate debates.
We're not. We don't tell the people. We do this over the
phone too, and through Texan we do do text messages, mostly because they
don't answer the phone. We do this when we go out to eat.
We do this when we go any event. You know, this is just
who we are today. I don't like him, so so this question got
a lot of debate. This question got a lot of debate. I just
want to hear. Because of time, it's gonna cut to it. They
asked who's the Lee's most overrated player? That was underrated? Oh, overrated?
Paul George, James Harden, Paul George, And that's James Harden.
Bro y'all call him playoff p Enough enough said the fact that everybody is still
bidding on this guy for these major contracts and he comes up short every year
in the playoffs. He does nothing for his team when it matters right.
He's playing second fiddle to James Harden's second fiddle. Took Kawhi, he played
second fiddle in Indy. He played second fiddle. He's in the when old
boy in the early No, No, no, he was growing Danny Grainger,
he was playing second first got he was still playing when they took,
when they put, when they took Miami to the to the ringers was the
dude. I'm telling you like this play. He ain't the same since he
broke his leg. No, I think that took when he broke his leg
in us A basketball, he has not been the same he played. He
plays with a sense of timinus, like he doesn't want to get hurt again.
That's a that's a real fear. Number one he he alluded to that
was like so that Kawhi They said that about Kawahi to they said the reason
that they said himself serious. They said when he went down for dunks this
past game that you could see the look on his face that he wasn't comfortable.
I just don't while we're here, I just don't like Kawhi on because
because of his personality. That personality doesn't it looks worse when he is hurt
and he should be focused on his self, focus on his injury, focus
on the show. But it just doesn't come off like I love this game
and I want to give it all to my my team. Really I disagree.
I disagree what comes off as I'm protecting my body because I spent the
last four years injured, nursing injury. But my thing about that is,
well when it just comes off like you don't care though, Like we can't
sit here and talk about Lebron saying you because you did this whole thing about
Lebron because him being frustrated about losing. But if you talk to Kawhi Leonard,
He's like, I'm just not playing. I'm just like my knees,
I messed up. I just don't feel like playing, and I'm just like
it just don't it don't it just don't sit with me. Well, but
the big controversy was because Rudy Gobert had won this one vote out one hundred
out of eighty one votes most overrated, overrated again. He wanted it again
again. I think people just hate him because he has a really mucked up
attitude. I don't think he has a fucked U attitude. I think people
don't like him because he's weird. And I knew he was weird when he
uh when he pulled to Aaron Rodgers, when he's when he pulled Aaron Rodgers.
You know, Aaron Rodgers after the off season goes to this uh way
out in the woods in this dark room, just pitch black. And that's
because everybody was all over himself. That's because everybody was all over Aaron Rodgers
for being a hater. Now here's the top here's the top five for this
list, Rudy go Bet, Jordan Poole, which I thought was a pretty
good, Trey Young, Dylan Brooks, and James Harden most opted. I'm
surprised Tyrese Halliburton's not on that. Just a little further down, Okay,
I'm gonna go with PGS PG on the list. PG it is not on
the list. But you know what it was, I've did all these people
that's on that shocks you. I'm glad to asked that question, to be
really honest with you. James Harden, it doesn't shock me because James doesn't
get it done. He's a big baby. He he always talks himself out
of bad situations to go. But here's the thing. Here's the thing I
think James Harden is he's a villain. Let's just get out the way.
He's a villain. But he can put up thirty like he did today.
He can put up thirty. I just don't. I just feel like he
he like, I can't do this. I can't keep putting up thirty and
we losing. So let me just step back. Actually see what I'm what
I have to work with. That's how he became a point guard, like
I need to see what I can do, what my team can do,
and so on and so forth. I mean, but that's a good question,
keasy because Anthony Davis is on his list, Patrick Beverley is on his
list, Carls Anthony Towns is on his list, Julius Randall's on his list,
which might be up there with me. Yeahs baths allowed mouth, So
I get that, Yeah, what do you do? That's just that's just
him because he talked. Because if he wasn't talking crazy, then he were
one of his list. Bradley Bill's on his list, and and and the
way he the way Tyler ty Reeves Haliburt went past him, I'm kind of
saying he might be a little bit of overrated. Defensively, like people,
they got ty looking like a superstar, They got him looking at tyres Is
like who on me? Bucket. I was like, he was like barbecue.
He was like, I know I scored exactly. He was like he
was like I saw, I saw him, and then he turned his head.
I was like when he crossed him. But I'll say this, if
Pat Bad wanted to filed him, I feel like we could have won the
game. I'm gonna give it to Chris Middleton for showing up to work because
Chris man Chris, Okay, But now we're gonna get into awards. Like
Dre said, they have they have announced to awards. Nas was his nice
Nays reed nase Red is the winner of the six Men of the Year awards.
I would have picked Bobby if we would have had a choice to pick
Bobby. I know I can understand why they didn't pick By, but it
still kind of burns my biscuit. I seen this earlier. When you compare
their season stats, Bobby played eighty two games. He played eighty one.
Bobby had thirteen point eight. He had thirteen point five. Bobby on rebounds
at seven point four. He had five point two assists. They were even
steals. In blocks he had more. He had one point seven. Bobby
had one point two. And then true shooting percentage he beat him five fifty
nine percent compared to Bobby's fifty eight. I just really feel like Bobby's never
going to get it. Yeah, to be honest with you, it's done.
I feel like the final for the last three years and it's never This
what the year he was supposed to get. This was what I think got
it. But I don't think under under achieving season I killed his chances.
My boy had I think that. I think also I think with Minnesota plate
in the raging raising up to the occasion off of his six man stats is
what got him to win. You gotta look at look at Minnesota, look
at Milwaukee. Plus they thinking Milwaukee should be where Minnesota is right now and
playing at that caliber of basketball. Check this is coming out. I'm just
thinking about this NBA on Milwaukee. Yeah, that ship hit on. That
ship is saying no, I'm serious, that ship is sailed of us getting
all the games and all the you know, the high ma Milwaukee. It's
the All Star game situation because we this situation, Like I'm just starting to
feel like Jay just don't mess with us. Milwaukee is an like when you're
a small market, you get a you get a window, you get a
window of the NBA show. Were on the back burner. Unless Janni being
honest, you can say something like that. And I think this season has
been a roller coaster and very disappointed, very disappointed. They'reydisappointed. So I
don't know if we didn't even have a horrible record, we just didn't play
to what they thought. We play to their expectation. So we threw the
We threw the last two game we lost to avoid Miami to lose. I
don't hear about that. We just lost those games. And my thing is,
like even teams that even more talented had ros starts to a season when
they got to play, what do you think Miami did? They lost sixteen
in a row. They wouldn't expected to win that good when they when they
first when they first came in, they were expected to smiley wap everybody.
But Miami started out struggling during the season. Yeah, they didn't win the
first year. What I'm saying is, I think, like last last season,
what Miami did was a miracle. I'm not talking about that Miami,
So are you talking about that? I'm talking about that d Way Bosh and
well, Miami, it's hard, it's hard. But the Bucks this is
their first season, all them together. Yeah, somebody gotta they gotta figure
out who's going to be the big dog. We talked about this, well
they You know what's funny about that, Kisy That is true because y'all is
like Dame team, Dame like team. You know what I'm saying, ain't
nobody take the responssibility but nice, but somebody gotta be the big dog.
Let's get through these awards. I want to Steph Curry is the winner of
the NBA Cutch Player of the Year. I thought they would just do that
hint to him. I'm not gonna cap I thought they just do it to
him. I like it, but stephry Steph has more game winners than anybody
this season. Why wouldn't they give it to him? That's the reason he
got it. Yes, you know, I know, I know, you
know I know. Now. Uh. They they announced the finalists. So
what I'll do is I announce the finalists. Either you can pick from the
three or you can just pick who you think should get these awards. We
gotta go with the three. We have to go with the three. This
is your opinion. If you feel like the three shouldn't it shouldn't be one
of the three and you have somebody else, please do hey, please put
it out there, because you know I have I'm gonna say I have yeah
kind of Rookie of the Year chat homegrown, Victor went Wingspan or Brandon Miller.
I'm going with Victor one beyond BA beyond. I like gonna say your
name right, but Victor wing Span, you have my respect. I will
give it to you as as the team. As the season went by,
I still was I was messing with you. But I really like Brandon Miller.
I really really like Chat homegirl. Okay, see has a promising future
doctor. They promising soil. You got work here the year. Now,
you don't have to pick that out of the three, but I'll see you
do. You got a screen piece on there too, invisible shield. It's
a part of the case. Let me check you out. Is this is
this the right time to do this? We do everything else, But yeah,
kee, who you got for Rookie of the Year? Chat Victor wings
fan of Brandon Miller or you can have somebody that you of your choosing what
I'm gonna give the check over Victor? Just because their team looked better with
him, I went. And I think that goes back to kind of how
we were just saying with the sixth minut of the Year award, like we
gave it to they probably gave it to him because my Minnesota looked at better
instead of you know this shaky Bucks roster and Bobby didn't get it, but
Bobby might have deserved it. I think this situation is a little different just
because I would the fact that I don't know for sure, but I think
san Antonio won twenty games this year, so that means but that don't mean
he's not a shocker. That doesn't mean he was. I just don't see
the one thing I can say about when when wingsman, as you say,
he has not seemed to be a game changer to me yet. He plays
decent. He plays pretty good to be a rookie, really good to be
a rookie. I think he put off a quadruple double twice this year,
but at the end of the day, like, I don't see him taking
that team over the hump yet. Mm hmm. Imagine if Check didn't have
s g A. They don't have nobody is that. It's on y'all,
But imagine if s g A didn't have Check, would okay, see be
just as good with anybody in the middle. They were in the playoffs last
year. They were in the playoffs last year. What happened they playing?
They got bounced, But it don't matter, It don't matter. I don't
know they got bounced, right, So checking the line up and was announced
too, So it just okay, who was it? Can we can we
get Can I get there first? You know? You know the point guard
here, doesn't you know? He doesn't like anybody. He doesn't like any
other ideas. You know what I'm saying. I'm just saying, if they
just broke the news, we would be giving ideas on something that just happened.
But I'm saying I can't get there first. So to your point,
I don't think that Check would have done. He would have been in the
same position if he would have went to Okay see without SGA. That's all
I'm saying, they would have the San Antonio's rebuilding, and we gotta respect
the rebuild. So so what what what san Antonio looked the same? If
if Chet went to San Antonio and women went to yes, Okay, see,
yes, they would have been just as bad. Would they look the
same? No? I think they would have been looked worse with Check.
You think so wow? I wouldn't say. Let me tell you something,
how I was looking for Victor Wing's fain to be garbage. I would looking
for him to be garbage, and I was like, oh wow, oh
dangn Okay, oh okay, all right, Like as the season went by,
he got progressively better. So that's how they say, let him get
an off season. Not all the hype has died down. He could just
really focus. Let's say he's sitting in the gym. He was the skinniest
Gianness when he first came into the league. Let's just add hit twenty pounds
of muscle. You're looking at a beast who can shoot, and they're not.
They're not like, hey, hey, could you kind of like bring
down a shooting because we have shooters. They're like, hey, do what
you want to do, do what you want to do. I just don't
think now does it look pretty? He did? He did it, but
he came into the league doing the same thing that he ended it this season
doing what do you mean? Taking bad shots? Shooting low percentages? But
do you I guess my difference the difference between those two is, like you
said, I think if Chet was on San Antonio, they'd be worse.
But I also think I also think that Chat has he's in a better position
because he can sit and developed because he doesn't have to be that guy.
I think what Victor Wainspin has to be that guy? And he's come,
he's exceeded expectations to be that guy. Like I think they beat the Nuggets
this year, and like when he comes to like locking somebody down joker he
was, you can't really do nothing with him, Like you can't shoot over
him, you can't get around. He's so long and tall, which is
the point, the whole point of him being seven to four. But if
he don't gain, no way, I see where you're coming from, because
then he's gonna be like, Okay, but I know how to play.
I'm just gonna body. But if he gained some muscle, it's gonna be
seeing the same outcome coming maybe a little bit better with Check because Chet is
a little bit more efficient when it comes to scoring. He's a little bit
more efficient. He doesn't get these many shots because I think that's a collective.
Okay, c is a good as a collective, But he also doesn't
take those shots that women and was taking took. He took some horrible shots
sometimes. Yeah, he's not knowing the game one hundred percent. I don't
see his IQ as good as Chat. It's to me, yeah, but
when beyond but I didn't have a choice but to take those shots. There
was nobody else on the Spurs team. You got a choice, you got
a choice. You got a choice. Come on, you got a choice,
and everybody. I like Victory. I like Victor's attitude. I like
his attitude, his his team, his team first attitude. I like all
that stuff. So I like, like I said, I was looking at
him like Chat at the beginning season, Chat, I ain't trying to hear
it on this wing, this Victory wings man. Like, I'm going with
Chat, I get it. Most Improved Most Improved Player finalists is Tyrese,
Maxi, Cody White, and some foreign guy. I'm not gonna try to
his name. Is it rude? Is it? Yeah? Who's a foreign
guy? Because Miami in the Houston. That's the dude who was number one
according to Bleacher Report as most underrated player, al Prian Sigan. I'm pretty
much sure I butchered to al pre and sin gone from the Rockets, But
it doesn't matter. I'm going with Maxie. I'm going. I'm going with
Maxie. Tyreees has has been up and coming and he's really coming to his
own uh since he left uh, since they got rid of James Harden,
He's really found his way and he is not that good to me, He's
all right, he was I don't think I think he was probably the if
he wasn't the number one option on their teams by the second in Houston,
Yeah, he was like because it wasn't it wasn't the let's stop acting like
he was washing the rockets the game and I watched him play, you know
why they say he's underrated. The only thing that I can see that he
does he really does. He's got good footwork, just got a jumper.
He's really observant to the game. So he does have a nice basketball,
and he doesn't he doesn't do more than he's supposed to do. He do
what he's supposed to do. But there's nothing about his game that's over the
top to me. Yeah, I'll give it. So are you so?
I assume you're going Maxie So for most Improved Player of the year. Most
improved you know, I really want to put this on this I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Anthony Edwards actually minutes already, Yeah,
twenty to that with you arguing, are you blaming me a little bit?
Casey? Give me focus, our focus. Just want to make sure.
Look, if you ain't, if you ain't worried about now and then
I'm going to say most Improved. I just gave you the three finalists.
I don't like him though. I don't like him though you don't like Maxi.
Maxi was doing what he did last year. He just didn't do it.
This is good this year to me, Maxi Cody White. Cody White
is decent. Like I'm gonna go with Maxie. Maxi carried that team when
MB was out for all them games. Philly doesn't make the playoffs if Maxi
doesn't play in those games. So who you're going with? I'm going with
Lebron James. No. Could you be voting for Steph Curry if he wasn't
hurt? No, man, I told y'all before the playoffs started, I
said, I'm and Zeke book back me up. I said, I'm changing
my tune. I don't think the Golden State Warriors have it anymore. And
he said really, I said yes, I said, Golden State is done.
Stick a fork it. I don't really know who to go with for
Most Improved because a lot of players have up this year that I didn't expect
to like, like across the league, like a lot of the younger players
like move on, because you didn't move on. Nobody asked you to stay
there dancing like I just said, I don't know, check in Davis,
but I did. I went over defensive. You know he's gonna missed Defensive
Player of the Year, Bam, Rudy Gobert or Victor wing Span. Victor
Wingspan. Of course I'm going to He'll probably win it, but I would
give it to Victor. I'm always going I just think what he does,
he does pay too much for it as this he does. Andy Davis gets
snubbed? Did he gets snubbed? Not to you? Really? He was
pete off? He was, he was, he said he never is that.
I'm never gonna get it. You're not. You look at you getting
All Star. I'm also surprised Lebron never got it. I'm not Lebron is
not that authoritative on defense. Yeah, I said that. Do you know
about this one? Do you don't know? I already said it. I
said, Rudy, when you said brother, nothing, let me smell it.
M v P. You keep saying jokers, joker. I'm going with
s g A. It should be joker. But we know s g A
is gonna win it. In the fact, here's why. I so some
old school basketball heads listen to us talk and they were like, obviously they
loved the podcast me most, but I'm just kidding. Uh. They were.
They were saying that there's a such thing as n B A m v
P fatigue, which is why Michael Jordan did win more than he won,
which is why they didn't give it to Lebrode. I say the same thing,
which is why Kobe only got it once. So I don't although Joker
is the clear front runner and could arguably winning okay see with the Coach of
the Year, okay see with the number one seed, okay see playing some
incredible basketball, okay see with the runner up of Rookie of the Year.
A lot of that can be attribute to s g A. I'm going with
s g A. He deserves it. I'm going with sg A just because
I don't like like, I don't like when the m v P s every
every I don't like that. I despise you, and you know y'all get
on me every time I do this, but still the same thing. I
just don't like that every single year, doing what you do and years.
I like Shay, but I'm more towards at the Edwards. Is he a
finalist? Luca Joker and yeah, it takes a lot to be a superstar
and have two big me like that. I don't think so. And by
in defensively and offensively like he did this season without him? Yeah, who
else is it gonna be? I mean, like Mike Coley in the Minnesota
Timberwolves number one, but he start So here's the thing. And I don't
know if this is on your doctor or not. Of course it doesn't matter.
I don't want people to get overly confident. Yes, three zero a
comeback has never happened. But if the Minnesota Timberwolves can mess around and sweep
Phoenix, you really have to take them serious for a championship run. They
they're the only team who could possibly beat the Nuggets. You really have to
take them. I don't know. I think Boston has the Nuggets number bro
Well, they're gonna sweep. They gonna run through the East like running water.
Maybe. But but and then we have Coach of the Year, which
was just announced as the winner. Okay, so right, okay, see's
coach. I don't like that. Who else was in the running. The
other running was Chris Finch from from Minnesota from Minnesota timmer Wolves and Jamal Moseley
from I think it's ja Jamal Mosley from Orlando Maje. I don't think he
should have won it? Well, well, okay, see man, it's
all for a circle. Man. I think I think uh, the guy
from uh Orlando should have won it. For you think Doc River should have
got it. I'll leave that alone. Doc, you got one full season
to get it right. We really do. You got one full season to
get it right. You got training camp this year. I don't want to
hear nothing Next year, you got training camp and perhaps some new players.
But yeah, what we're finna get into Bucks talk. We didn't do it
in the injury report, but Damian Lillard strange his achilles and he will not
be playing in Game four tonight or five. Probably he probably he's doubtful for
five. He won't he's downful for five, but he I don't know.
He's doubtful for five, but fingers crossed him. He might play before.
He's definitely not playing, I hope. So if the Bucks lose this series,
is this is this worse than last year's lost to Miami in the first
round. Yes, no, I think so. I don't think so.
But go ahead. Because we're both injured. I think it gives them somewhat
of a pass. If they both played this series and they lost, it'd
be different. But both out. I mean, but aren't you the guys
that said guy, aren't you the guy that said the Bucks should beat Indy
no matter who playing, I said, if Giannis was by himself, they
should beat Indiana, or if it was named by himself the whole series,
they should be Indiana. They don't have either one now. But that wasn't
a case for Game two when they whacked us by thirty. Game played for
US. Middleton played, and they whacked us by thirty on our home court.
I mean, that's that's gonna happen, just because they got the ball
ruling and they cut that game close. It wasn't that close. I was
there, they cut it. We were both there. We went to think
that we actually came back, and but Chris Middleton had to put the company
on his back and did a good job. And he did a good job.
But come on, wait, I hear you. But let's remember,
man, we gotta protect them needs of Chris Middleton. Man what he's done
after this season? No, what you think they traded him? I bet
you my bottom dollar the Bucks was in Indiana because you're not getting rid of
the Dame. Maybe, and you're not getting rid of Young Maybe maybe Dame.
You're not really get a Dame not getting you're not getting rid of Dame.
Does the Bucks GM lose his job? No, you give him a
season. I'm willing to give him one more. He fired a coach halfway.
We're willing to give him. We had to get approval to do it.
It's not looking it's not looking like the Dame trade worked in our favor.
Jew Holidays over there, prom here be out jew Holidays prospering. He's
playing his role. He got another big contract. Uh, we got rid
of Adrian Griffin when we were number one in the NBA. I still think
we should have got rid of him. But we did it right. Dame,
who we've all said before the trade went down, we were happy,
but we also called him what ip injury prone? You did? Okay,
so we're taking up a roster spot with a bunch of here's the stat that
neither of you say, because you're such things. And I'm not even making
about the NASAs. Do you know the stat that's most concerning about the Milwaukee
Bucks that no one talks about team with the oldest team in the n b
A and Doc does not even play our young core to out because they're not
play worthy. Well, then the roster needs an upgrade, and the only
person to do that is the GM. You know who we should have got
rid of bow Champ. I'm an adult, both Champ? No, well,
bull Chain would be a nice reason to get rid of Pat Connington.
Yeah, you know who old? You know who flourishing. You know who
flourishing, Grayson Allen, That's who's flourishing, flourishing, And they down three
to erhaying he hurt. He led the league in three point shots. He's
hurt, not three he did? He did? He let the league easily,
was leading the league in three led the league easley was leading the league
in three did anyway look it up anyway? The bottom line is we cannot
give the Bucks GM a pass. I'm not saying give my pass because the
fact that we have to just shut us out really quickly. You're right,
you are right. Adrian Griffin had to get rid of them, had to
get rid of them, because this is what going on. Three point percentage
number one is Grayson Allen. Here's the thing about this. We I would
say behind him. That is what I'm saying about this. The GM put
us in a box. But this is what going all in looks like.
This is what going all in looks like to me. To me, you
have Yanna's fully healthy, you have Dame fully healthy. We beat Indiana.
Luke Cannard is the second. Okay, we beat Indiana. I honestly feel
like that. But I also feel like there do need to be some roster
changes, but I don't think it needs to be the core. The Bobber
is injured, Bob, he need Yeah for the older they're getting older.
That's your favorite thing to say, Yeah, they getting older. But we
have people like Connington who's still on the team needs to go. You talking
about why ain't putting the young dudes in. I'm not gonna put you in
just because you're young and you're not producing prouder product. Crowder, you had
a year. We gotta get rid of you. Bab I like you,
but if we can find a better and I'll say that, this is what
I say to that, if we can find a better point guard. Yes,
do I like that Pats of Dog? Yes, I do like Pats
of Dog. This is what I'll say to Pat about Pat. If PJ.
Tucker was out there, he'd be getting cooked too. But I still
like he's still playing for the Clippers and hating on him so hard. They
hate on him, and he said something and he didn't say nothing, they
wouldn't be hating on him, Like why play him because he don't do nothing?
And they have people who's actually contributing. So my thing is this,
PJ. Tucker should have left, but I think he sees something he like.
I don't like this, but I don't think the Bucks need to completely.
If you change, if you trade Dame, you're not gonna get what
you think you're gonna get for him, and which is another superstar. You
have to get another superstar for him. But I don't think there's a lot
of superstars out there that we can get now. I think we should get
rid of Chris Middleton. We should have got rid of Chris Middleton two years
ago, but because we didn't, nobody wants him, Nobody taking the knees.
That's what I'm saying nobody wants him now, and that's the thing about
it, Like it's a tough decision. But I told Dre a couple of
weeks ago the reason for the reason for Golden State's demise will be loyalty.
And it's looking like the same thing with the Bucks, Like and we get
mad when we trade people like Drew Holliday. But Drew Holliday is here because
Drew Holliday is in the position he's in because he doesn't have to do much
like he's in Boston. Not have to all y'all do is a whole defense,
and I really don't have to do that because I'm not gonna be holding
the best player. The best player is probably gonna be held by Jalen Brown,
Jayleen Brown, or j Zingis or maybe presingas if it's a big man,
but it's not gonna be me. I did need to do what I
need to do, and I need to do it at a high level.
I'm gonna say this, injuries are not The more and more people talk,
the more and more that twenty twenty one championship is making us feel like,
yeah, that was for Fluke. Yeah, I mean, I asked that
I asked that during the season. Yeah, y'all are getting another one because
we should be up on Indy two games to one. I don't know about
two games in one. Well, but then again, I don't know what
that game with Indiana with the double overtime, we should have won again.
And I'll say this I've said all season, Indiana is who we didn't want
to see in a playoffs because we were up for one. We lost for
one, but we also don't want to see them without Dame and Giannis.
I hope this isn't it. I do want to. I have hope that
the Bucks will come back. However, it's not looking good for our Bucks.
CAC do we escape this or no? I don't know. Well,
I really want you to ask that question. As far as is this the
worse lost in last year, it's not the worst lost in last year because
our superstars are injured and we're playing with a up and down Chris Middleton who
played a really good game last game. I cannot lie. We just I'm
going with what you guys said. It is time to get younger, do
you think, and you said it a long time ago. The Bucks gotta
get younger. They got to they don't have a choice. In order to
save our older heads that we got like Joannis and Dame, we gotta get
younger at the five, we gotta get younger at the two, and we
got to get younger at the three. Hello, you know what, I
we have been loyal to Brook. Thank you for saying that for years.
It's time to cut the cord. I think I think he's a great backup,
but he shouldn't be our stout in the center anymore. I think I
think it's time to find a younger athlete, athletic athletic big that can do
some of the things that he does. We need to get rid of Beasley
because he's too inconsistent. He actually shot really good this year. I think
the lineup changes by the coaches is what threw off his ability to stay consistent
because he was at the top of his game to start the season. At
one point, he was leading the league in three point efficiency. I think
he just lost his rotation, his spot in the rotation, and that's what
killed him. Casey, is this series over? That's an obvious question.
I don't think. I don't. I don't. I don't think it's over.
If Milwaukee can win here today. I can see us winning the series.
Still, if they lose today, it's time to start working on package
deals, several packages like it's to start. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
dog them out because of the injuries. So I'm just gonna say this,
it's time to start working on some deals. I know. This is I
do. This is what I do know about the Milwaukee Bucks. We are
gonna be stuck with this lineup for at least maybe two years, and we're
gonna be a playoff team only I don't think so. I don't think so.
I think that if we let me ask you a question, keys,
because you you're the fan, if you if we have yan, what am
I? You're a different kind of man. I'm objective, objected, Okay,
okay, case Jesus christ man. If you wouldn't a season ticket holder
anyways, if you welcome, and do you think do you think the Bucks?
Do you think the Bucks are going to because we stuck with Doc,
we're not trading Dame Giannis? Is you know he's still good? And then,
uh, who do you think needs to go? I asked that question,
who do you think needs to go? And Yeah, who do you
think needs to go? We need a full roster overhaul, we need we
need an I know what you're gonna say. Let me. I want to
hear what he's gonna say, because I know what you're gonna say. I
don't like the whole overall thing because that's not gonna make us a better playoff.
I'm gonna take you like this. I said, we put Brook and
Middleton in a deal and we get younger. I just want to put this
out there really quickly. On free agency, they were about to go to
Houston, both of them. We stopped them from going to Houston. They
didn't go for obvious reasons. I feel like this year we're gonna let Brook
go. But who do we replace him with? No? I thought he
had a two year deal. Two year Midleton got a two year deal.
Did didn't he three? Middleton got three with less money? Okay, Now,
Middleton, if you take less money, I'll give you that, just
because Jesus Christ, just because us. He understands you got bad needs,
and he like I know I got bad needs. We're gonna keep you,
but can you take less money? I would respect the player who does that.
And there's a lot of great free agencies on the market. The Bucks
can't afford a lot of them. I mean, no one wants to come
here. Let's just be frank, you got what you got, Pascal Sam,
we gotta what the mar derozen we we could work on the sign and
trade with the Bulls. I get it. I'll get that. I said,
we put brook and Mudleton in a deal. Yes, and who are
you expecting whether we win to whether we win to lose? Who are you
expected in return? Is that what you're saying, Miles Bridges. Miles Bridges
will be available. I like it, he too, thugged out Nick Claxton
as a center from Brooklyn will be available. Obi Wan would be available.
Say that's disrespectful. That's disrespectful. I say, the foreign dude, whatever
number one, ob number one. We do need a uh, we do
need a uh. No, I was gonna say, we do need a
U. What they call Tom will quickly D'Angelo Russell. No one will touch
him. El Monk, And I think he's another thing that that takes me
off about the Bucks. They're not putting enough effort into their their younger players.
But that's coaching. And let me tell you why no, No,
have you seen Jackson Jr? Who Jackson Jr? Jackson Andre Jackson? He
yeah, he's a young player. That all you gotta do is is coach
him to where you want him to be. I've watched him play all year.
He's gotten better all year. He hasn't gotten worse. But his minutes
are so inconsistent you can't see his development. So they have somebody we need,
we need somebody. Hears my thinking about this young He's a high flying
young player. That's it that can defend, saying, did you see that
block he hat I did? Did you see who was against? It doesn't
matter who, It does matter that that stuff matters. It was there.
Did you see the dunksy be? Do you see the dunksy be putting back?
Did you see the eighty points that he put up that bow Champ put
up in the spring summer game? Great? Have you seen him put up
twenty in a real season game? You got twenty twenty, you got fifteen,
twenty twenty five. Could you gotta you gottam for that? I'm gonna
tell you right now, as a coach, players you can break, you
can make or you can break them. And right now because Doc is stuck
in his old school ways, the same way Adrian Griffin was stuck in his
old school ways. Well, rookies gonna play. We're in a different era.
Rookies are way more athletic and way more better. Now that don't make
your team better? Okay, then, women, i'ven't got plenty of minutes,
and he's showing the hell didn't make me san Antonio better? So what
are we saying? He's there by hisself. We are in a different position.
Keys, he's not talking about we're talking about winning right now. You're
talking about talk about winning five years from now. We're talking about winning right
now. How can you win right now if your young players ain't being participating
in those winnings. So someone missed so when Middleton gets hurt, he can
fill in and be that dude, because he's already been playing minutes to feel
comfortable stepping into a role and becoming a better player. It's too much old
school ways. It's not adapted to these younger players. You ain't even going
to hand quiet these the the the quiet shit back the The Milwaukee Bucks have
had a history though, of poor player rotates. Coach Bud had terrible rotation
what he did, but then it had no do with the young player who
Griffin had terrible rotation, and now Doc hash There are games where Doc has
a six or seven man rotation. I wonder what he gonna do tonight with
with with three of your big with three of your bitch players in the starting
lineup, it is crowded gonna play. You know what I'm saying, His
head so hard, ain't nothing hurt about him. Walk it off, walk
it off, walking off, Get up, pat, get a pat,
get a pat. You know what I'm saying. Anyway, on the bitch
in the boot Janni's I you know, on the bitch with a hoodie gotta
dress, I'm saying, is that's that's a Janni's brand hoodie. I agree
brand. Yeah, I agree with Kesey. You got that from the sword.
I agree with Kesey. The Bucks need to learn how to maximize our
whole. That's why team hold up. That's why teams like Minnesota, New
York let me finish New York, Okay, s even Denver, they are
maximizing. They are maximizing. They're maximizing this. If you go and look
at all of the Rogers who got the oldest players? Look and see what
their problem is. They're not playing the young guys. Why do you think
finish getting the ass kick right now? Because they're not playing no young guys,
playing the same four every player, the same five superstars that are old
that don't got nobody to step in and give them a contribution because these coaches
are stuck on not playing younger players. Look at Indy. Why do you
think Indy is so good because they're young and they're playing. Don't have a
choice, Casey, you're talking about these you're talking about teams like, Okay,
they got some veterans on that bitch. I don't even come off on
Indy. Whoa Johnson? Johnson? Who that's really coming? James Johnson?
He needs to be sitting on the bench and let's we finish fight. Unless
he could have come out that bitch and kind fu somebody head. He needed
to be sitting on the bench, okay, talking about okay, and then
Pat BA need to be sitting on the bench. He need to come out
and fight. WHOA whoa? Pat bav is a waste of space, bro.
He's there for a reason. He's there for a reason. Conson shouldn't
be coming out the beach unless you need, unless we need the end of
the shot clock shot. So here's the thing. Number one, if Beasley
was hitting, If Beasley was hitting, Pat bav wouldn't be coming up,
wouldn't be playing as much as he is. Let's just get let's just get
that out the way. The reason why you're talking about developing developing young stars.
The teams you're talking about had no choice. Okay see, had no
choice. So if you want the Bus to take another step back, then
yeah, we should develop young team. But that mentality is for people who
are not trying to win right now. Okay see, hold on, if
okay see didn't win it off, we'll be like, well they you know
they got and the Bus don't win right now, like we're talking about,
they're not gonna win, and get rid of it. Stephen. See,
this is one of the best rosters in the league put together. This is
one of the best rosters put the in the league of rosters. This is
one of the best ones put together the Milwaukee Bucks on paper. On paper,
don't act like Giannis is not a top five player. Don't act like
Dame is not a top top ten top fifteen player Chris middle to the top
twenty five. We have a big three you can't even name. Okay,
see big three? Okay, okay, since you want to hold on right,
hold on before you go there, I'm the game. Just Chris Middleton
played this year and he was injured. Okay, so who's supposed to step
in? Bow Champ had his chance. Bow Champ scored twenty points. Because
they have games where bow Champa played twenty points. You got games where bou
Champa played twenty two minutes, and then you got games with bow Champa played
three can have a rhythm? How can you be confident in your game if
you don't know if you're even gonna come off to bench? Because I've seen
you play twenty minutes. You got five points? Did you know three?
Five? Did you notice what happened in the okay scene game yesterday when they
interview the player, the whole team got around the player. Okay, see
like a college team. Ok s played twelve players yesterday. Yeah, they're
pretty deep, but they're young indep because they're being developed. That's all they
don't have. They don't have a choice. They don't have a choice.
That's that's why they got That's why they got rid of Road, That's why
they got rid of Carmelo Anthony, That's why they got rid of Paul George
because they knew the time to develop younger players a choice. They got a
choice. Everybody got a choice. They didn't have a choice. I love
y'all, this is great talk, but come on, man, what your
bucks need? If we don't, let me tell you something. I put
something in our group chat. Do you remember what I put in there?
I said, I said, the NBA is changing. The super team era
is over. These young guns are out here putting the league on notice.
Denver, Boston, Minnesota, Oklahoma City, Thunder, the Knicks, heck,
even Cleveland and Orlando. The days of just depending on Big three to
do it, it's over. Lebron and Anthony Davis can barely win a game.
Oh, let me finish. They can barely win a game. KD.
Devin Booker, Bridley Bill can can barely win a game. They're down
three games to zero, and they are arguably top twenty players on that team.
The NBA is changing, and if you don't develop a four roster,
you will not be able to compete for titles in this league. My thing.
Here's my thing about that. Here's my thing about that, because you
you gave uh and you gave Phoenix and you tambo. Minnesota Timberwolves. Minnesota
Timberwolves are Anthony Davis, who is young, who's young, up and coming.
And then we have a veteran defensive player who was an anchor. He
does what he does and he does it very well, Carl Anthony town.
I have a big three. Yeah, they have a big three. I'm
gonna get there. Besides that big three? Who who? Who are you
looking to score? Because guess what, Minnesota when they had injuries from one
of those big three, they didn't do anything. They have Kyle Anderson,
they have TJ W Are you looking at your phone? I'm looking. Are
you looking at your phone? I'm just giving yes, okay, I'm talk
at the top of your head. I can't. Are you talking about besides
the MC three? Besides those MC three? Who are you talking about?
Love? Because when I say Mike Connerley, when I say Mike Connelly,
you clown me. But he's the starting point guard. And man, we
just talked about read not be it. Listen. Well, first of all,
screw you all of you. Okay, let's just say that. No,
no, no, go man, y'all going talking about Listen, Indiana,
Can I finish and I finished? Or not? At one hour and
twenty five minutes, I want to be late for the opening, but Tina
won't start coming. I think it comes on that seven. Anyway, She's
dead. Bro. It's a Broadway show. Oh my god, you are
standing broad eight years ago. Bro, it's a Broadway show. Oh my
god, I turn her die he died anyway. What what I'm saying is
Isaiah big wigs keep on the He was going before that, Now he going
with the whole pseudo. Listen. What I'm saying is none of us that's
not the Bucks or maybe our second favorite team can name anybody else's roster without
reference. So don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.
We might can name four or five, but we can't name nobody's deep bench
unless we're studying the roster for prep for talks. Don't do that, right,
don't do that. Like like you can name Dallas because you love Luca.
He can name the Lakers because he's a Lebron guy. I can name
Golden State because I'm a staff guy, But don't sit up here and act
like you can name all Right, y'all, I'm out. It's always been
a pleasure of being with y'all. I'll see y'all next week. I can't
wait to get with y'all. I mean, just what, just what you're
gonna do. We're gonna wrap it up, though we wrap it up.
You do got somewhere to Okay, we're gonna wrap it Up's do the schedule.
But I still stand by what I say. Anyways, they don't.
They're not playing for a reason. We go. Are you sure? Somebody
grind run our test where I've been talking crazy all game though series? You
know, somebody need to slap him frustration and he did this cricket internet.
Okay, he needs the right for Austin slap for real. And he's swagging
punch so he needs to get slapped. He didn't get injected, but he
need the right for Austin slap too. But this is this is all I'm
saying. This is all I'm saying, bro y'all, to maybe lose my
train of thought. What were we talking about? What we're talking about?
He ain't even doing that? You know what I'm saying, is but Bobby
like that that makes Bobby play better? Though to me it does. I
forgot. I forgot what I was gonna say. It was somewhat important.
But nevertheless, oh I got. I remember, is this Bucks versus Indiana
series over? Yes? Or no? Not yet? Is the series over
over? So I'm gonna agree with Zeke, And I hate to agree with
him because of the outcome, not because he's my brother. But this series
is over? Tone said we when we when we did our first prediction,
Tone said five to one, I mean four to one. We said six
Tone, Now I know. I mean if it wasn't for these injuries,
then we made a little different but still, but anyways, this has been
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