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You're listening to KFI AM six forty
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good morning. It's by the clock straight

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up. This is your wake up
call for Thursday, July eleventh. Ooh,

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it's seven eleven day. You know
what that means. Free sir,

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slurpees at seven eleven. I haven't
had a slurpe for years. I might

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have to stop buying. Get one. I'm Amy King. Thanks so much

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for getting your day started with us
today. We've got so much going on

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as always, and don't worry,
We've got you covered. We're gonna get

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you all the latest news. We're
gonna get you the traffic to help you

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get there, and we're going to
have some really interesting talks with some really

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smart people. We'll be telling you
about that as we move through the hour.

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Here's what's ahead on your Thursday wake
up call. President Biden is said

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to hold his first press conference since
the debate with former President Trump, which

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has led to calls for Biden to
quit the presidential race. Biden's going to

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close out the NATO summit in Washington, d C. This afternoon. He's

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expected to try to prove that he
is capable of serving another four years.

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We're going to be talking more about
the growing pressure for Biden to step aside

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with ABC's Steven Portnoy. In less
than five minutes, more than twenty five

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people have applied to be LA's top
cop. The police commissions his candidates from

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across the country have applied for the
job. Mayor Karen Bass is going to

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hire the new chief, possibly by
this fall. Interim police Chief Dominic Choi

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not allowed to apply for the permanent
position. Border patrol agents have seized a

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million dollars worth of met at the
Coleexic Port of Entry. Agents say more

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than five hundred pounds of meth was
found hidden in a shipment of furniture.

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A twenty nine year old man's been
arrested. The guy who has a visa

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was applying for admission into the US. Also, a little bit later this

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hour, on wake Up Call,
we're going to find out how Beaver's Just

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may save California from wildfires. I
know it sounds weird, but it's gonna

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be a really interesting conversation. I
love how nature can help us after we

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screw up nature. We're gonna find
out more about that again before the top

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of the hour. I six,
so five, it's handle on the news.

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Some takeaways from the first day of
Alec Baldwin's involuntary manslaughter trial in New

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Mexico. Bill's going to share his
thoughts on that. Let's get started with

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some of the stories coming out of
the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. The

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new La Metro board chair says safety
is her top priority. Ellie Mayor Karen

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Bass has passed the gabble to La
County Supervisor Janis Hahn, who for the

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next twelve months will preside over meetings
of the transit agency's board. Han says

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one of the first things she'll start
doing is riding the buses and trains,

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and on our board meetings, I'm
going to talk about what I experience as

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a Metro rider. That will mean
calling out problems I see as well as

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praising the things that go right.
Han also says protecting riders and employees is

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Metro's top priority, and she'll also
focus on helping homeless people leave the transit

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system in downtown La. Michael Monks
KFI News authorities in Orange County say an

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elderly couple allegedly murdered by their own
son in San Juan Capistrano died in a

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very gruesome way. Investigators with the
OC Sheriff's Department say Joseph Gerdville was arrested

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in connection with the alleged decapitation of
his seventy year old parents and their dog.

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Deputies were responding to a domestic disturbance
call about the murders Tuesday morning when

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another caller reported a very bloody man
had chased a maintenance worker and stolen the

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golf cart. The OC Sheriff says
the guy was found along a bike trail

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a bit later and ended up shot
multiple times by a debut but the guy

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is expected to survive. In Orange
County, Corbin Carson KFI news, a

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man who owned a nonprofit animal rescue
in Compton has pleaded guilty to four counts

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of animal cruelty. Prosecutors say nearly
one hundred and fifty live animals were found

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at two locations linked to the man, and many were severely underweight and suffering

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from various illnesses. They say the
man knew the animals were distressed and didn't

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do anything about it. Thanks Scott's
Surfing. Now everybody's learning. How comes

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the far with me? La County
Health officials say surfers can't hang ten at

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sixteen local beaches because of high bacteria
levels. People have been urged to avoid

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swimming and playing at the beaches all
the way from Malibu to Marina del Rey.

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A full list of the contaminated beaches
is available on the county website.

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Also, there should be warnings posted
at the beaches, so be sure to

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look for those as you had to
the beach to get out of the heat.

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Costco members are going to have to
pay more starting this fall. The

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company says it's increasing annual membership fees
by five or ten dollars a year,

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depending on the plan. It's the
first fee increase in seven years. It'll

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take effect in September. The price
of Costco stock rows two percent after the

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announcement. Over the last year and
a half, Costco shares have nearly doubled

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in value. I think that's important
because of Bill Handle, who goes there

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like every day. Get six oh
seven on your wake up call for this

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Thursday morning. Let's say good morning
now to ABC's Stephen Portnoy. Stephen,

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when we talked earlier this week,
it seemed like maybe the calls for Biden

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to step down had quieted a bit, But that was two days ago.

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So what's going on now, Well, what's going on now is the drum

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beat has continued, and in part
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directly that the president should stay in
the running, and that has led to

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a whole another round of speculation that
maybe more Democrats will come out and say

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that he should step down. And
we have an ABC News Washington Post IPSOS

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survey this morning that shows that two
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out. Now weighing in Biden's favor. In addition to the fact that he

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won all the primaries and has the
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survey, two weeks after the debate, shows the race is still effectively tied.

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That the debate did not have the
kind of impact that naysayers. This

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is the argument to Biden people would
make the debate didn't have the impact on

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naysayers that people think it would have. That half the country still supports Trump

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and half the country still supports Biden
and that when more people hear the argument

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against Trump, they're going to come
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way, don't believe the polls,
because the Poles have always been wrong,

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is their argument? Well, that
was Trump's argument for the last uh huh,

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the last one. So it's turn
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Huh. Fair enough? Okay.
So louder than Pelosi's voice, though,

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was when George Clooney came out yesterday
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run either. I think you're right, and I think it's highly significant that

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George Clooney had an op ed in
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fundraiser within the last month, which
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Yeah, it was like thirty million
dollars or something, right, had Joe

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Biden on the stage. And George
Clooney says that he simply did not see

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in Biden the man that he knew
as Joe Biden, and that the Democrats

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risk losing the House and the Senate
with Biden at the top of the ticket,

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and so it's the right move Clooney
believes for Biden to step aside and

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have someone else take over and help
save democracy. These are Clooney's words.

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Look, I think what will happen
today is incredibly significant for the president.

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He's standing at the conclusion of the
three day NATO summit here in Washington to

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take reporters questions. This is a
rare I have to underscore it because I

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think people take it for granted how
often the president stands for questions. He

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does not very often, this president
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okay, and it's a shame.
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and have been here a long time
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that this president has refused our entreaties
to engage. Because we ask for answers

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for two reasons. One so the
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is on various issues. That's obviously
the main reason. And the other reason

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is for history, because as we
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often told in responses to reporters questions, and when we're all deprived of that,

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history is deprived of an opportunity to
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motivating this man and his decision making
and the record of Donald Trump's presidency is

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pretty full as a result of his
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true for Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan,

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going all the way back to Joe
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to have news conferences every two weeks. And so today is a good example

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of the president's standing for questions.
Let's see how many he takes. Let's

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see how well he performs. The
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He's going to be sending for an
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So there's that. And let's see
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presidents for the president to step aside. Yep. And I think people are

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watching him still like they have not
watched him for years. So it'll be

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interesting to see. Steven Portnoy,
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information this morning. Let's get back
to some of the stories coming out of

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the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
Governor Newsom says he will actively campaign against

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Proposition thirty six, the measure that
voters are deciding on in November, would

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reverse elements of the voter approved proposition
forty seven. That one reclassified felonies as

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misdemeanors. Newsom said Prop thirty six
is being promoted as a tough on retail

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crime measure, but more of a
drug policy build than anything else. We'll

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cost the taxpayers billions and billions of
dollars over the next decade. That well,

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have we found impact on programs across
the state. I reject the premise

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that it foundationally a retail bill.
It's it's a lot more, and I

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will not be supporting. Last week, Newsom pulled a compete measure from the

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ballot that would have shored up the
law from Proposition forty seven. A proposed

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merger could put sixty three grocery stores
in California under new ownership. The stores

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would be sold off of the proposed
merger between Kroger and Albertson's goes through.

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Under the deal, the stores would
be sold to CNS wholesale grocers. Stores

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that would be offloaded include Vaughn stores
in La, Manhattan Beach, and Coasta

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Mesa. Albertson's locations would also be
affected in Dana Point, Northridge and LA.

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The proposed merger, announced in twenty
twenty one, is currently being challenged

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by the Federal Trade Commission over concerns
that the merger would lead to higher prices.

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Kroger has disputed the claim, saying
that customers will see lower prices if

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the deal goes through. Blake Trolly
k if I News San Diego Grocer's union

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president Todd Walters's Kroger appears to be
stacking the deck when it says customers would

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benefit from lower prices if there's a
merger. There's nothing from Kroger in the

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state of California that's being divested,
which I'm very surprised at Walters's overall.

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He's not panicking about the potential merger. The company was communicating to our members

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that the ones in these affected stores, there's eleven in San Diego County.

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The unions are going to do effects
bargaining over this. If the merger gets

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approved, it still has to go
through the court system to get approved by

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the FTC. A man in Long
Beach has been arrested for the deadly shooting

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of a neighbor. The shooting yesterday
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The murdered man had been shot several
times the reason for the shooting not

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yet known. A federal judge is
ruled schools in Moreno Valley must change their

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policing policies and hire an outside party
to implement new policies. The decision follows

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a complaint filed in twenty twenty that
claimed campus resource officers at a middle school

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discriminated against a black disabled student when
they handcuffed him four times. The family's

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attorney said Monday, the district's practices
have allowed for the disproportionate suffering of black

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disabled students. Two and who went
up to space and board the Boeing Starliners

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say they're comfortable staying up there a
while longer as issues on the Starliner have

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delayed their trip home. I'm not
complaining, Butch isn't complaining that we're here

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for a couple of weeks. Sudi
Williams says she and co pilot Butch Wilmore

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have spent some of their time photographing
Hurricane Beryl in Houston, where they both

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live. Powers lost trees are down, but we're a big team. Everybody

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pulls together in Texas. She says
they're not worried about the star Liner's ability

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to get them back to Earth.
Testing is underway to ensure glitches with a

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thruster are fixed before they head back, likely later this summer. And as

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you know, we've been talking with
astronaut Colonel Nick Hagu who's going up to

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the space station, supposed to be
later this summer, and we're not sure

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if those two astronauts who can't get
home will delay the next mission. Right

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now, they're saying it's still going
to go off, but hopefully we're going

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to be talking to Colonel Hag again
in the next week or two before he

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goes up. But I'm interested to
hear how that all affects, because I'm

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thinking if they're there and then the
next mission goes up, it's going to

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get a little crowded on the space
station. When we come back. We'll

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be talking with ABC's crime and Terror
analyst Brad Garrett about the use of weapons

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on movie sets, which is nothing
new, and whether Alec Baldwin is really

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at fault for the shooting on the
set of the movie Rust. Of course,

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his trial is now underway in New
Mexico. You're listening to Wake Up

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Call on demand from KFI AM six
forty. Let's say good morning, now

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to ABC's Crime and Terror analyst Brad
Garrett. So, Brad, big shootouts

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in movies are nothing new. They're
kind of a staple in action movies.

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What went so wrong on the set
of Rest? So it appears amy two

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things went wrong. One is safety
protocols, both for the armorer that's the

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person that's in charge of the weapons
on a movie set, and the act

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in this case, Alec Baldwin.
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prosecutor, he acted in a reckless
way in reference to point in a weapon

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at somebody, maybe having his finger
on the trigger when he shouldn't have,

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and some other things she cited inter
opening the statement yesterday. So we'll see.

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But clearly this is the case of
I think mistakes, clearly huge mistakes

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made by the armor who's already been
convicted and got the maximum sentence you and

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get into Mexico eighteen months. So
we'll see if it holds true for mister

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Baldwin despite the fact that he may
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weapon. But is that enough to
actually convict him of involuntary manslaughter? Well,

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that remains to be seen, and
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the trigger. But the prosecution and
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would be impossible for that gun to
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trigger. Well, that's certainly what
the FBI analysts, the firearms analysts are

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saying that that test fired the weapon. So, you know, is that

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you know, disagreement, Obviously it
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aby is is that enough one way
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people are pulling the trigger of the
weapon. Now they're shooting blanks in most

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of these movies because you've really got
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realistic you know, smoke, fire, ejection, all that stuff to make

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it look like you're literally shooting like
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so does We'll have to see the
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know they're making the big deal out
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would really carry with the jury since
he believes Alec Baldon believes that despite the

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fact he is the figure and maybe
pulled the trigger, that nothing was supposed

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to come out the end of the
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I mean, that's the biggest question
for me is why was there live ammunition

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on that set? Because you've got
an incompetent armor. I mean, I

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can't say anything else but that,
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could they conceivably amy have live ammo
on a set to go to a not

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on the set, but go to
a separate range to help train actors in

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what it feels like to shoot actual
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yes, However, you don't need
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to separate the two. And how
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blanks or dummy rounds. You know, it's just beyond me, and clearly

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it doesn't happen from the standpoint I
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mentioned. I mean's thousands of shootings
that happen in movies every year that people

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don't get hurt. So I know
you people are following protocols. Despite the

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fact there's no mandatory universal protocols,
by a large these movie makers are following

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safety protocols. Well, that's what
I was going to say. Like,

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I'm watching The Mayor of Kingstown right
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in that show every single week,
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of. So overall, I would
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So what kinds of precautions do they
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they only have the you know,
they only have blanks on set.

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But what other things do they do
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Well, first of all, they
train the actor. They have professional fire

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arms experts, which is actually is
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Like in the movie Heat that Michael
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actually trained Pacino de Naro and everybody
else who had a gun. How do

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you shoot it, how you hold
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you know what you're doing. And
then all the safety protocols you don't

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put point the weapon in anybody despite
the fact that you're shooting blanks, and

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all of the safety protocols that you
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weapon. This like a law enforcement
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do have live rouds of them.
Yeah, So do we know if Alec

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Baldwin was actually trained like other actors
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don't know. And you two questions
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And B did he follow what they
trained him? Now, according to

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the prosecutor, he clearly didn't follow
some of the safety protocols if in fact

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what she's saying is accurate. So
some of that's going to come out and

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testimony. I guarantee you, if
she's going to put she be in the

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prosecutor, he's going to put somebody
on saying I did train him, I

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didn't train him. I'm going to
ask to train him whatever the correct answer

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is. I do think that that's
going to come out in this trial.

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And the armorer is gonna who's already
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Isn't that correct? Yeah? But
my understanding is she may plead the fifth

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because she's probably concerned about additional liability
in some former fashion and maybe civil liability.

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Who knows, But yes, she
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from whatever prison she's in to someplace
close that if she is called, they

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could bring her to the courthouse.
We'll be we'll be watching. It's an

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interesting case, and thankfully it doesn't
you know, it's not a common case,

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so ABC for sure. Yeah,
Brad Garrett, always a pleasure to

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talk to you. Thanks so much
for your information and insight this morning.

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Take care Amy. All right,
let's get back to some of the stories

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coming out of the KFI twenty four
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has found President Biden's debate performance has
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despite reports claiming otherwise and calls from
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race. The study shows ninety four
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support him, which is one percent
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supporters switched to Biden. Northeastern's David
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dangers of making a mountain out of
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media interpreting data. Biden says the
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campaign is coming from Democratic Party elites. He says they're the same kind of

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people who have doubted him throughout his
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the voters will still have his back
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charged with killing a tourist at Fashion
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a similar armed robbery before Leroy McCrary
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death under getaway car. Santa Monica
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probation for holding a gun to someone
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two. It's on video. We
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let people who commit armed robberies go, then own up to it. But

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the idea that the Santa Monica detectives
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fantasy. The charges for last week's
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Orange County. Corbin Carson kf I
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billion dollars in back taxes from wealthy
tax cheats. The agency got more money

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for staffing last fall from the Biden
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people who hadn't paid what they owed. The IRS identified at about sixteen hundred

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taxpayers with more than a million dollars
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fifty thousand dollars in tax debt.
And speaking of big money, a Mega

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Million's lottery ticket sold in southern California
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where two hundred eighty thousand dollars.
The ticket sold at a gas station in

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Redlands hit five of the six winning
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One hit the one hundred and eighty
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I had a ticket for that one
too. When we come back, when

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it comes to safety, ABC's Jim
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best and the worst places to be
driving around the US. You're listening to

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Wake Up Call on demand from KFI
AM six forty right now. I can't

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wait to talk to ABC's Jim Ryan. Good morning, Jim. Why Hi.

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So it's always a risk when you
head out on the highway, but

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it's more of a risk in some
areas of the US than others. Yeah,

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And folks on the West Coast,
for example, tend to handle their

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phones while they're driving a lot more
than people in the rest of the country.

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Really bad idea, yes, But
people in the Midwest, though,

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are less inclined to slam on the
brakes, and people in the Pacific Northwest

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drive at safer speeds than to the
rest of the country. This all comes

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from the latest report on the Safest
and Riskiest places to drive, based on

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data to from all State. All
State, the insurance company, and this

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year is a little different amy and
a little more precise, potentially because the

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numbers are not based on insurance claims
that all State has processed related to accidents.

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And you know it's based on data
coming out of your phone and out

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of your car. Wait a second, yeah, I know, I know.

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There's a company. All State in
twenty sixteen purchased a company which compiles

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data based on what your smartphone is
doing. Right, it's getting them jostled

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around, or if you're looking at
it, if you're speeding in your car,

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if you're breaking fast, that that
all can be picked up by your

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devices. Okay, I got to
interrupt you for just a second, because

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we're talking about cars spying on us
exactly. I had to rent a car

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a couple of weeks ago because my
car was in the shop because I got

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rear ended at Disneyland. But that's
a whole other story. Okay, So

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I rent this car and on the
dashboard it says how much. Basically,

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it gives you a meter of how
much attention you're paying, So it says

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attention level is high or attention level
not high. But most of the time

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it was at high. But there
was one time when and I didn't notice

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it at first, but I looked
down at my phone just for a second,

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and then I glanced back up and
it like the meter had gone all

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the way down to low. I
was like, it's watching me and where

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my eyes are looking. Yes,
your car knows what you're doing. I

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don't like that. Well, yeah, I mean, and in a rental

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car you probably have no choice.
But in your own car, if you

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don't want your car keeping tabs on
you, if it's a newer car and

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it's connected saying with your phone,
you can turn those things off. You

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have to opt out. It's not
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You have to opt out. Otherwise. Companies like this one called Arity,

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which is the subsidiary of All State, can monitor your data and can sell

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it to other companies. And that's
what they do with this, with all

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this data, and so I mean
there is an upside to this. If

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you have the All State app,
for example, and it includes all those

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features that we're talking about here,
and you can prove that you're a safe

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driver by not exceeding the speed limit, by keeping your eyes off off the

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screen, by not slamming on the
rags, then you'll get a lower insurance

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rate. That's the carrot in this
carrot and stick equation. Yeah. I

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think Progressive Insurance has something like that. They've advertised that. Yeah. Okay,

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So anyway back to the study about
where it's safest to drive, where's

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the safest place first, or at
least risky, that's the best way to

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put it. Honolulu, Hawaii is
the best place or the risk of the

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most risk free. I suppose has
the safest drivers in the whole country.

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The other safe cities include Minneapolis,
Seattle, Portland, Portland, Oregon.

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That is Portland. Yeah, that's
because the traffic is gridlocked. Like you

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said, it's gridlocked here, but
there it's gridlocked because they only have two

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lanes on the freeway. Oh right, so you can't get up to get

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up to speed. But at the
same time, if you're a gridlock,

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you're probably playing with your phone or
looking down and you know, looking at

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emails and text messages, which you
shouldn't do right right at the other end

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of the of the scale, Albuquerque
in Mexico is considered the least, say

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for the riskiest place to drive.
And why did they they have the kind

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of the list of factors. Yes, yeah, they show you exactly what

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this is about. Honolulu has the
overall best rating, and they have the

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people are least inclined to slam on
the brakes. They're also driving at high

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speeds the least in Honolulu, so
they scored you know those two, those

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two categories quite well. That makes
sense because you're you're in Hawaii, you're

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on island tournaments, like, yeah, I'm on just like chill out,

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chill. I know that sounded like
a Jamaican accent, but it meant it

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was meant to be, like everybody's
just more chill on Hawaii. I wasn't

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gonna say anything about it. The
people handling their phones to the least though

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in San Jose. But if you
look at the riskiest drivers by category,

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the overall riskiest drivers are in Albuquerque. The people who slam on the breaks

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the most are in Bakersfield. California. Okay, people driving at high speed

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the most are in Port Saint Lucie, Florida, and the ones handling their

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phones the most are in Providence,
Rhode Island. Does La top the list

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anywhere? It doesn't, which is
good, right, look at how good

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we are any of the list.
But it does show up on some the

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list. People are slamming on their
brakes there in Los Angeles. You show

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up at number ninety four, in
the place where people are slamming on their

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breaks the most. All right,
okay, So Honolulu, if you want

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to be face the least risk and
stay away from Albuquerque in Mexico. Yeah,

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okay, we'll do. Jim Ryan, thank you so much. All

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right, all right, Tucson,
right carefully. You're listening to Wake Up

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Call on demand from KFI AM six
forty. Okay, remember that song you

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used to sing at camp Bear with
me the other day? The other day,

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I met a bear. I met
a bear out in the woods,

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out in the woods, A great
big bear, A great big bear.

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Yeah, well it came true for
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But the guy's okay, Bill's going
to tell you about that right now,

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let's say good morning to the Assistant
Professor of Geography in the Department of

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Geography, Environment and Society at the
University of Minnesota, Emily Fairfax. Hi,

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Emily, Hi, good morning.
So we wanted to talk to you

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because beavers just may save us all. Yeah, I would say that.

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Okay. So the answer to and
when it comes to wildfires is what I'm

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talking about. So the answer to
the risk of wildfires in California may not

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be more water storage or more firefighters, better defensible spaces around homes, but

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it might be beaver's. Can you
tell us why? Yeah, So it

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is more water storage and more defensible
spaces, but it doesn't necessarily have to

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be us building them. It can
be the beavers. So beavers are ecosystem

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engineers, and when they go around
and represent streams, their number one goal

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is to build a great, big, wetland and to make sure it stays

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wet and full of water, even
during droughts, even during floods, and

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even during wildfires. And so they're
constantly out there maintaining these super soggy patches

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and lines across the landscape. And
what I've seen over and over in my

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research is that when you have a
big wildfire comes through, these beaver wetlands

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are too wet to burn. Okay, And so now the problem now in

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California at one of the problems in
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extinction in California. But they're trying
to reintroduce them now, right, Yeah,

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there used to be a lot of
beavers in California. The Central Valley

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was full of them, The Sacramento
area was full of them. They were

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from the mountains to the coasts,
the north end of the South end,

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and during the seventeen hundreds and early
eighteen hundreds, we trapped them basically to

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local extinction. There were very very
few left in the state of California,

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and it stayed that way for a
long time. For about one hundred plus

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years, just weren't very many beavers. And slowly they're coming back, but

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it doesn't feel fast enough. So
the state CDFW is helping to conserve beavers,

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bring back beavers, and even reintroduce
beavers to places that they used to

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live a while ago but haven't been
back to quite a long time. So

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how do you do that? Do
you pull a beaver from somewhere else and

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then just put them in a new
house. Or do you take beavers that

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are like in zoos? I mean, how is that process done? Definitely

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easier said than done, for sure. The beavers are pretty fussy when it

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comes to relocating them. You have
to get the whole family and move them

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all at once, and a family
could be up to eight, nine,

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even ten beavers that live together.
You do take them from the wild,

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not from zoos. Usually they're sourced
from a place where they're in conflict with

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landowners. Maybe they're chewing on trees
or flooding the field that we don't want

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flooded. And so those beavers get
trapped and alive, trapping and round it

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up and checked for their health,
and then as a family unit, you

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bring them to a new place where
more wanted and where they have a better

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chance at survival. Where are there
a lot of beavers. The highest beaver

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populations in California right now are mostly
up by Tahoe and Truckee and then through

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Sacramento down towards the Bay. Sacramento
River has a pretty decent population on it,

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Okay, And you mentioned that they
were hunted to near extinction they were

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trapped, and for like one hundred
years we haven't had a lot of wild

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beavers in the in California. Why
is it because? Was it because of

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their fur? Or is it because
like farmers and ranchers didn't like that they

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liked to build dams. It was
for a few reasons. Fur was definitely

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the earlier trappings. When the seventeen
hundreds or so, they were trapped mostly

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for fur that could be traded back
to Europe. After that, they were

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also trapped for castrium, which is
an oil that comes out of glands inside

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the beaver that is used in perfumes. Then they've also been trapped pretty heavily

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since then for nuisance reasons. So
when we do have conflict with beaver and

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to it was a decision to try
to control westward expansion through beaver trapping to

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stop there from being for more people
to come out. So they were a

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political tool, they were a resource, they were a lot of different things,

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and we just really took it a
bit too far, as we tend

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to do. Okay, So now
the effort is to get them back.

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What kind of successes have we had. We've had a lot of successes.

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One of the biggest successes that I
think is out there that maybe doesn't get

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the attention it deserves is just the
public attitude towards beavers in California is shifting.

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There's more people that understand what they
do, what they don't do.

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Some of the myths about beavers are
slowly being dispelled, like beavers don't deep

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fish, Beavers are not massive disease
vectors. They do a lot of really

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good things. Other big successes were
the state reintroduced beavers up in the Mountain

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Meido Consortium lands back last fall,
and then they just reintroduced beavers to the

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Tuley River Tribe the spring. And
so these are really big movements to not

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just bring beavers back, but to
bring them back to the indigenous people that

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have lived alongside them successfully for thousands
of years and who do know how to

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manage the species correctly. Okay,
and the places that you mentioned where are

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those? One of them is up
in northern California, it's within the Dixie

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fires car and the other one is
in south central California by the giant sequoias.

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Oh, we got to keep the
lands near the giants. Sequoia is

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nice and wet i think that's important. Yeah, we don't want those to

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burn. Okay, And Emily,
you say that even after a wildfire,

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which we've had, our share are
more than our share, the ecosystem could

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benefit from beaver's How is that.
Yeah, So when the beavers prevent these

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wetlands from burning during wildfire, after
wildfire, the areas around them that did

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burn, they do need to recover, and that requires there to be mature

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plants and mature animals to help repopulate
the rest of the landscape. So these

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beaver wetlands, they're like a great
big storage bank of adult trees that can

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flower and that can feed, and
grasses and reeds and native plants and fish

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and frogs and turtles and all the
things that normally can't really outrun a wildfire.

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They're there and they're alive, and
they're able to reproduce after fire as

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long as they were able to sort
of hunker down for that brief moment in

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the beaver wetland. And we've seen
this multiple times, lots of expansion of

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greenness and recovery that really does center
at these beaver ponds. So the beavers

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are saving everybody. I love it. They're doing their best. I mean,

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they just want to protect themselves and
it's sort of a secondary thing for

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them, but they do a good
job at it. Like there's definitely a

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keystone species and support a whole host
of other organisms besides themselves. I think

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it's so interesting because you don't think
of like, you know that beavers make

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dams and that kind of stuff,
but like to hear that they are,

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you know that they're so key to
the whole ecosystem, the whole circle of

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life thing. You know, each
species plays a key part, and if

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we would just get out of the
way, maybe nature would act a little

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better. Yeah, I mean,
I get it. They are like sixty

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five seventy pound rodents. People have
issues with normal sized raps. I can

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imagine a beaver being difficult for some
folks to want to like. But the

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more you learn about them, the
more they grow on you. Okay,

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Emily Fairfax, thank you so much
for the information. I love that the

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beavers are saving the day, and
I hope that we get more of them

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in California. All right, thank
you, thank you, thank you so

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much. Isn't that cool? And
you know, I went to Oregon State,

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so I'm a big beaver believer anyway. But I love this and I

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love watching how each Like I said, each species plays a key role in

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the whole circle of life. You've
been listening to Wake Up Call with me,

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Amy King. You can always hear
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