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It was fifty times the magnitude of the brightest star. I immediately made
an abrupt turn to avoid collision. As I looked to my left, the
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as it was silhouetted against the full moon at all times. It had a
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start today's show. Hello, and welcome to the show. I'm David Young,
and thank you for that lovely intro. Emma, nicely done well for
this show. As usual, we're going to be delving into all kinds of
weirdness, and for this particular occasion, I've got another guest who's got his
own paranormal podcast and it's called Dark Mirror, so this conversation could go in
all kinds of directions. And his name is Mark Manly, so I shall
waste noe more time. I'd like to introduce Mark Manley to the show.
Hello, Mark, welcome to the show. Thank you very much for having
me. It's nice to welcome you to my show. There's a cat walking
about behind you or is it something else? Or is it something else weird?
This is the younger Bob. He's been on the show lots of times
and normally you get a bum or a tail or something. I'll see a
couple of radios sitting behind you. There's even all sorts of things. Yeah,
but the Star Wars place in Disney World in America for people on on
the radio, on the network. I'm sitting talking to Mark on the camera
and he's got a couple of stuffed iOS and some Star Wars pictures up behind
you. Now, I'll tell you what. Let's just sort a little bit
about Star Wars for start, just just to get us into the show.
You did a little bit of the thing a few years ago, you told
me, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Back in More.
I think it's two thousand and seven. I think two thousand thousand and seven.
And I used to teach martial arts and I taught it for years and
years and years and boxing and everything. And I'm belonged to I think called
the x Wing Foundation, e x Wing Foundation. It's charity charity place for
people like me who were nuts and Star Wars. And I was asked if
I would do a full dress, costume dress, fancy fancy dress martial arts
fight at their next convention, and there was a load of the actress from
the original films there, so of course I went and then me and me
and my mate Mike. We practiced for over a year and I had some
kids from my martial arts school doing it. I had a baby, well,
a young Daft mall. I was Daft Bane his master and what else
will we and we had we had Mike who was playing Cipher Diaz and yeah,
we did a full blown martial arts fight in front of Jeremy Bullocker's Bobaft,
David Brow's Kenny Baker was there. Mister Bronson from Grangeill who was Admiral
as All. Yeah, yeah, he was there as well. And Mike.
On those photos you've seen in my Facebook, there's one where Mike's on
his back on the floor that wasn't staged. He was. He got staged
for and there was a bit where I do in rich hand which is the
side of my hand, to his neck, and then do it with the
other one because he's caught that hand, caught that hand, and then I
do a fake head button. He got stage right and just stayed looking at
me. He's on the floor. The stormtroopers who were lining the ring are
all miked up because they're all part of five or first Squadrone mid him starting
the gig on. I've looked down. There's Mike on the floor spark out
and he's got a massive blue egg where my face paints come wo coming up
in his head with bun stuff, and I'm going, I like your head,
your head, and he's like, you know that was I remember.
He's saying that, ladies and gentlemen is what happens when accidents happened, you
know. Oh yeah, So I used to know somebody who was in the
Star Wars films. It was one of the little people, is it e
Walks. His name was Mike Something. I don't know if you ever met
him or but I suspect he was probably one of the dues I've been too.
Yeah, I think he was. I know it was in the past.
Strikes back probably a few of the others. But you know, when
you've gone back years, I can't remember what your second name was. But
we're really stood around and I don't know, but straight enough, because I've
got every time I met them. I got I got Star Wars encyclopedia,
and I got every single actor to sign in front of I'll tell you what
else he was in. He was in the Timeband. It's as well that
was a few. Yeah, he was in that. So if you find
someone that was in the time Bed, it's send the Star Wars films.
But anyway, apart from that, you've got your own show called The Dark
Mirror. Yeah, the Dark Mirror Radio show. Yeah, on Facebook,
YouTube, the Things Network and simply speaking network on Twitter and Instagram as well.
Now that's right, Yeah, yeah, I know you were a few
platforms. Well give good. Well you talk about a lot of things the
same as I do. Yeah, all sorts of different paranormal types of things.
You were foes, the ghosts and all sorts of stuff normally, don't
you. Well, the thing is, I've heard a lot of shows previously.
Now I'm not done about now, but shows previously, and the ones
that used to be on the TV were really boring, I found and I
we used to do this the Dark Mary Show for years and years and years,
and it was myself charricter anyway, loads of others and then they went
off and did their own thing, and then I took that, took on
the Dark May shows my own thing, and I changed it to we talk
about every single aspect of the paranormal because you know, as you know,
the parent normal is a massive umbrella for everything that's different I like, and
I'll call out fakes, Charlatan's dodgy videos, all this sort of stuff.
But we're going to talk a bit about that as we go along, because
there's been something rumbling along, wasn't it. And then then but we'll go
bang with loads and loads of facts because I love doing research, and I'll
it's the thing about the paranormals is when you start down one rabbit hole,
you end up a million others. Yeah, you find a lot of things.
Are links, aren't they? Yeah, exactly like we do. The
main things that we do because my my own forte is cryptotology, upology,
and certain conspiracy theories. Because there are some conspiracy theories that quite frankly,
you must have taken a lot of I agree, So yeah you probably you
probably agree with the same one as I do. But there are some crazy
ones. The craziest one I've ever heard was that our planet is actually a
prison planet, and all the sightings of Bigfoot and Yetties and everything like that
is there's a ghost. It's a white cats She has her own following a
dog. She's a white German shepherd that she's the dark married dog. Yeah
that all us, sorry, all Bigfoot and yetty sightings are actually prisoners from
another planet and they were put here because this is the prison planet. And
when I heard that, I was like, what so, Yeah, a
lot of crap pop ones out there. And was it the flat Earth as
well? No doubt it was a flat earth prison planet. My argument with
the flat earth is have you got a cat? Yes? Has it knocked
everything off the edge of the world, No, it's not flat? Yeah,
it's true. Trust me to knock everything off the flat earthy. I
can never get me hit around that. It's there's some people we're just so
convinced about it isn't you know, it's it's just it just seems crazy to
me. Unfortunately, it's not a thing that anyone can prove, is it.
And where we can't go out there and prove we we'd have to go
right out of the space to prove that the Earth's globe, you know it's
And of course they say that when people do go out there, they say
it's freak and then not really doing it. Yeah, that's right, that's
right, like the firmament. Because I very often get crazy video, crazy
videos or messages sent to me saying, oh, have a look at this
and have a look at that, and yeah. I had somebody like,
I'm I'm not religious, but I do think that that death is not the
end, definitely not the end, and that there is something definitely afterwards,
but I don't know what it is yet. But you know, I respect
anybody's religious. If you're religious, that's fine. I'm not going to jump
on it. But I've had people send me messages about the firmament and I'm
like, you mean the big invisible barrier that surrounds our planet so we can't
get out, that's right, Well, okay, can you explain Voyager one
and voiag you two to me? Then? Please? And they have no
answer, and it's like, well, it's left our universe, so you
know, where's this bubble that surrounds our planet. I think the firmament is
possibly how they could describe the statusphere and atmosphere back millennia ago. I think
that's possibly one of the explanations of how that came about. But you know,
it's the thing I quite like about ufology and religion and history is when
you actually properly look into it, there were people before us, but they
weren't. They weren't actually gods. They were just from other places with technology
way way ahead of what we've got either. Now. Yeah, I mean,
let's go back to that. Do you do you think some of that
could have been alien technology as well? I mean, I do believe that
the ancient Alians have come here. I mean you probably see those of the
TV shows, like a lot of the structures. I mean, we have
trouble building them now, wouldn't we a lot of the structures that are being
built in the past. Yeah, And that's got all those that's got the
warnings on it and everything. When you look at if you go back to
let's have like Sumerian times, you look at the epics of Gilgamesh and everything
like that, and then you look at the king's list. Yeah, thank
you, le loove. And you look at the king's list and it tells
you about these kings that were so incredibly lived and they lived for the one
hundreds of thousands of years, you know, and they would direct the direct
descendants from the AMENARKI. So you know it's all there. You just got
to go searching for it. And then when you line up all the religious
books. They all have the same events that happen on exactly the same time
lines. But it depends which culture you come from as to how these beings
appeared to that culture. Yeah, when you see here they live free hundreds
of thousands of years, I mean, could they not have been measuring time
differently to what we do? Now? Maybe I suspect they do. I
suspect they do or did because times of man made concept anyway, isn't it.
Yeah, of course, yeah when there it does theos it's just a
measurement thing we use. But yeah, I definitely believe the wasa AGAs definitely.
Yeah. Just depleted uranium has been found in Russia at one point five
million years old. You can only get depleted uranium via man made process.
It does not happen in nature, so you know, And when you look
at things like the Mahabanata and stuff like that, they talk about the gods
having a fight with therm. Nuclear happens. And then when you go to
India there's spots which have still got nuclear radiation in for something like seventy five
thousand years ago. Well, yeah, the Maharbaretic it goes back thousands of
years before Barb, isn't it, you know, And it's like they talk
about all this and one of the craziest things I heard was that Jesus,
don't hang the messenger. Don't hang the messenger, just be talking. But
Jesus and a few of the prophets I won't name any names, were actually
you know, either hybrids or they were experiments that were impregnated into people.
And then when you actually follow Jesus, he went through Indian and he went
through China, and he studied all the different martiall systems as well, so
you know, his religion was based on all the different things that he saw.
Yeah, I mean, I've got to say, there's not any real
proof that Jesus Christ actually lived, is there you know someone? Now,
there's nobody in history that can say that he actually did live, was a
as a real person. You know, he's not in any history books,
so I think the only place you will find it was in the Bible exactly.
And he's not a white guy with blonde hair as was made out from
the Middle East. You know. Obviously time I'm not having to go any
like you're not any religious people. We're just pointing out effectual thing here that
you know there isn't a real person. But I don't necessarily I think is
what they say. I think he's a very clever person. I think there
might be some Roman Roman records. Isn't he talking about kill to get into
the Vatican bols? Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I'd love to
get it himself, but we'll have to break it. Well, we'll go
together, we'll break Definitely. I think it's putting in the more than that.
But yeah, a bit of some real secrets in there. I mean
there is they say there is evidence that the popes eventually been that you admit
with it isn't whether it's true. Again, it's one of those things you
can't prove. It's just one of those stories that gets around and is it
true, isn't it? You know, you just sort of make your own
mind up about it. It's it, definitely. I've read several supposedly real
accounts from one of the only couple of people who've been able to look at
the Vatican bolts, and the things that they've said is down. There's just
absolutely astounding. Yes, there's proof of there's proof of what they call demons.
But I personally think because there's so many different dimensions and there's so many
doorways everywhere, you know, like skin walk arounds this, that and the
other. I think our concept of angels and demons are not what they really
are. I think it was when you look at the book the Bible,
it says about good and bad having a scrap on here, and then when
you look back at all the epics like Giggle mention stuff, it talks about
the end keep good and bad. Dam and n Iki have a scrap falling
out with each other because the bad ones didn't like us and wanted to wipe
us out because we were the favorite ones, and the good ones wanted us
to have a chance to prosper, and they had a scrap on our planet.
And that's where in every single book you've got all these fights going on,
and I think that's where you get angels, and that's where you get
demons from all this. And they were like, you know, I'm actually
read that book at the moment as the demons then one, oh yeah,
that's a good book. Yeah, it talks about all the treasures in the
Vatican as well. That's right. I see. I've read all the Dan
Brown books that follow that character and I love them all, but I do
find them all there's some parts that get intrinsically intellectual when you don't need to
describe. Yeah, sat chair, so what you know. Yeah, I've
got the collectors editions as well. We're ordered the designs and all in it.
You know, quite interesting. So yeah, I mean there's so many
different subject fitting go into here. That's well, I guess we've covered the
ancient alias part of it. Now. Have you had any experiences of your
own? I mean, have you ever seen UFOs or yeah? Yeah,
it's not something I actually talk about much. When I was a kid,
my mom and I I was only core six seven years old. I thing
we saw something like we didn't well we didn't see it come down, but
we saw this brick red cigar shaped i'll say, vehicle just appeared. And
we lived in the countryside and it appeared in a field opposite us, and
it was to me back then, it was massive, but I would say
it would have been about fifty foot long something like that, a proper tube,
yeah, on on legs, and we didn't see it see it come
and then we saw like a right at the back of it on the side
as it curved around like a door came down, but we didn't. We
don't remember anything after that. We neither my mom normal because I've asked her
about it several times since, she's like, she remembers it, but she
don't know what happened. We saw this door open and and then next thing
I know, I've turned around. The mom said, oh, what about
that thing? You know? What? What what is that? Mummy?
You know? And we've looked again and the doors are closed and it's still
there. And then we've looked again it's gone. So wow, we lost
a bit of time. We lost about half half an hour to an hour
if I remember. But that was that was one of the old things that
we've seen. It's quite but it's more than being seen. I mean,
you could well have been taken into the ship, could you for all you
know? If you see time and all that. And the other thing is
when you know, because the present showed, Wayne said, and he's my
cop center. When we went to I can never remember the name of the
place, Singy Forest, UK's area fifty one, when the UFO came down
and the USAF went and chased after it. That's it. Yeah, that's
the one, thank you. We were we were filming for the t v
P there, which is one of the things that wayne taking a break from
filming, and we were leaned against the UFO monuments there where the actual things
supposed to landing, and we looked but it was like, yeah, there's
a black triangle we actually managed to take. It's on the dark mirror's wall.
If you scrolled out going to the medium photos, look at it.
That's what. Ah. Well, you know I lived thend the shop,
and I actually know quite a few of the people that were involved in it
that that actual model is actually not where it landed. They've just found a
convenient little to put them to put them on you and on basically the next
field, wasn't it Yeah, well it wasn't even in the field they went.
They went across the field because there were one on the third night.
I mean they were looking at lights. Basically there was nothing actually landed in
Caple Green. No, no matter what somebody else is, uh, you
know, they're actually following lights across the field. But on the first event,
it actually landed in the forest at some point some you know exactly it's
old to explain exactly where it was on, you know, on the radio
show, but there wasn't landing within the field within the forest. Sorry,
But on the first night, yeah, the second night was the meeting on
the third. The second night is really the second night wasn't really a night.
I mean it was the first night on the on the on the boxing
day, well, it was actually the Boxing day morning, early hours of
Boxing day morning. There was a second event apparently which which included which meant
somebody lost their apparently lost their gun in the forest and then because they got
frightened about something. Now that was a second event. I was that it
was the second night, because it could have been the same night as the
first night, or it could have been on the third night, on the
earlier hours, on the early hours of the third night. So there's a
little bit of a controversy about that second occurrence. But I mean the two
main nights, because that was actually two nights after on the third what they
called the third night. So it's, uh, it's a bit difficult to
sort of pin it down to a natural date for that one of those things
where there's so many myths and stuff that's around it and you have to pick
away and take all the stuff out. And I mean when Colonel Holt did
his whole his famous Holt Memorandum, he actually put the wrong date on it
as well, which threw a lot of people off because obviously he wrote it
in early January. When he was looking at the notes and because of ordered
the shift changes and things like that, I think he must have just got
confused and put the wrong date on the on the thing. I don't know
if that was actually done on purpose or if it was done to cover things
up a little bit, because they tried to tried to blend in the whole
thing that happened over the different nights into one occur work's basically so tom blend
blurs because it was never meant for the public obviously public consumption for the public
to see. It was only meant for our our security services, basic the
government. Uh. But of course he into the up coming out with the
news of the world and everything well because of a couple of writers that got
it out. But yeah, and then from there it all blew up.
The otherwise would never have heard about it. If it worked for the for
the whole being released exactly where where that monument is in the forest, we
were looking at and we saw three lights and then they weren't. We looked
and we checked. They weren't playing, they weren't helicopters, they weren't drones,
and they weren't anything. They went starlink and it wasn't the need because
we checked on everything and we saw these things come over. One of them
went like that and they were like an orange color. They weren't in normal
color. And most of the marks waving his head up and down like a
wave wave, a wave that you've remember, we're on the radio. And
each one of them we heard a jet out being scrambled, come absolutely hairing
out, and we saw these jets go after and tear after each and that's
when the big triangle appeared above us. We didn't hear it come, and
the only reason we know it was because when we looked up it was a
very start clear starry sky. This triangle. You could see the three points
of light. There was nothing inside that triangle, no pelt points of light
or anything, and yet there was loads of stars everywhere. So that's the
photo that I managed to get. Yeah, it's quite an experience. We
went. I spent quite a few nights going up to renovant for us and
walking around in the early hours of the morning with a group of people,
we often saw strange mists. Letter You couldn't see it with your eyes,
but when you took photos, they came out in the photos and you get
strange shapes of alien shapes and all sorts of things. Well, I mean
Brenda Butler are no quite Well, she's got some amazing photos and things that
she took when she used to go out there. He is there, really
is. But there was a there was a couple of occasions we actually,
I mean somebody, I think somebody else spotted it. First there was a
star moving and then stopping and moving and stopping, and all of a sudden,
now I started moving and stopping them. So there were two of them
moving and stopping. And yeah, we were watching it for quite some time
on one particularly, and that was down at Eastgate. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, Well, when you actually get into the forest itself, I know
exactly what you mean about the miss because Wayne and i'd been there a few
times. And when when you start taking photos of the forest itself, you're
right on a lot of the photos. Depending where you are, you get
this flipping miss come up and it's not there, but it's there on the
photos. And yeah, it's got somebody smoking, because you know, you
get usually get people smoking around you. But like you say, he has
missed it. You can't actually see with your eyes. It's the same as
somebody somebody orbs you see. I've seen twice. I've seen all shapes that
we've been. We've been naked eyes, but most of them said they're come
out on the camera. And I would argue with people that say they're always
dust or moisture, because what it is, when you take most of the
photos you take, they'll come out black. You know, nothing comes out,
and all of a sudden you'll get a bunch of maybe three or four
photos with all these orbs in it, and and over those three or four
photos you can see those particular orbs have moved in different positions, you know,
and then all of a sudden you'll be back to taking black photos again.
Now, I mean, if there was dust or moisture, you get
in order photos. That's the way I see it. Yeah, that's that's
some of the things I get we sent into the show. We often get
videos sent in, and I find that's the one thing that people get really
upset over it because I'm always honest. I'm not rude or off hand or
anything. Video. I look at it and I can see what it is
straight away, because with our stuff, I'd far rather trying to disprove it
and then no matter whatever's left, that's got to be something akin to the
truth, you know. Yeah. But I've had had one person sent me
a video of somebody. It was on a CCTV of somebody walking down the
corridor, turning left and going towards the kitchen, and then safe turned left.
The camera's right on the on the corner there, and they stirred up
dust because you know, when you walk, you leave awake, and you
can see the dust have been stirred up. Followed the and then when it
came back, it did exactly the same thing again, and I said,
oh, thank you. You know it's dust. You can see it is.
Oh my god. They were swearing worse than an army cook. And
this was like some gentle lady over in America, and it's like, oh
yeah, you know. Yeah. A good example of that is a lot
of TV programs when you see camera lights, you see all the dust in
the in the camera lights, so you're actually seeing that. That's what you're
seeing basically on your on your camera, but there's that is not always what
you're taking with your digital camera in the dark, and there is a difference
as a big difference. Yeah, while we're sitting here and there talking is
that's floating about and surely you get you see it. But I've done one
investigation pound on investigation where we've actually had two orbs and they were they were
like a black color and you couldn't see them the naked eye. They were
only appearing on on digital cameras, and it wasn't just one camera, it
was on several cameras and it was the same two ords, and they followed
usrom room to roomter room, and we put an em pump in downstairs,
and these things followed us downstairs and we were filming them on on a night
vision camcorder and we're filming these two going round and round and round this this
em pump and then when we turned the em pump off, they just went
up. Yeah. Yeah, it do seem to be intelligent, don't They
Also on some of the ones that convinced me, I know, you can
get in sick and things that that could look like it, but you do
see them. Sometimes they'll they'll go across the screen and then they'll change direction.
You know, obviously that's not dust, is it? You know,
definitely not. Some people argue, some people will argue with instinct, but
I don't think, you know, some of them might be. I think
on some of these ghost shows, you can see it's a lot on off
or something that's flown out, you know. But but there are some other
stranger ones where when you know they're supposed to be activity in that room and
you do see an all the screen, they don't see they mentioned it too
much now a lot of these ghost hunting shows, like they used to in
the old days, I guess that they just sort of think that wherever I
was gonna call it, and you know that that's why I donother saying about
it. I think a lot of the shows, I mean, at the
end of the day, things like most haunted of that if it hadn't been
for them, we wouldn't be in the mainstream now we're still exactly Yes,
So we've always I know, I've always got them to thank. But they
were the ones who anything, they would jump out and sets of ghosts and
sets of an orban, this, that and the other. When now we
look at those things, you know so well they probably believed it anyway.
I mean, I didn't like you say it was the It was the early
days of ghost hunting, Wasn't it really as we know it today? I
used to watch it all the time. Oh yeah, I've got loads of
DVDs here. Don't be a child to watch them. But yeah, I
still love it. I mean, I'm going to see the show actually in
June. I think it's in South End is no, sorry, that's May,
just before we go on holiday mayor twenty second. We're going to see
the most talk show on stuff. We've got front row seats as well,
so I'm quite looking forward to that. That should be fun. Yeah,
But so mean as as the aliens go, I mean, did you?
I mean, I reckon this? I reckon We've been visited probably by probably
hundreds of different species over the years, from what I've heard from other people.
You know, obviously I've never said not to my knowledge, I've never
seen an alien face to face for silf what in laws? Yeah, I'll
cut this bit out for you in case you get But yeah, I know
what you mean. But no, I've never seen an alien face to face.
I've seen UFOs over the years. But I do believe that we have
been visited by many different species, and I do believe that in the past
they've probably, like like you said, skirmishes and wars and things, you
know. Definitely. Yeah, well, it's like all this drip feeding that's
coming out, that all all the stuff comes down to. They have been
trying to say that is it twenty twenty seven, The truth's going to come
out, and that in twenty twenty seven they're going to be here and then
there's nothing that the government can do or say about it. They can't continue
lying that it'll just be banged. We're here. We told you to prepare
the people for our visit. We are here, you know, here we
go. And that's why all the drip feedings coming in and all the whistleblowers
and all this that and the other. So if that's what's genuinely going to
happen, and okay, fair enough, I believe that when I see it,
to be honest, if if I but look look at me, I've
had counter eight times, two lots of chemo going on. Yeah, well,
yeah, but it's just it's just it's just one of those things that
I mean, we do hear about these things. Oh this is going to
happen, and that's going to happen. It never does, does it?
At least I know, I do agree with you about the drip feeding though.
We are being we are being drip fed information and the files that are
to keep releasing. And if you look, like I've said several times on
this show, with all the thousands of pages of reports that they've released and
files and release, if you go through a lot of those, you'll see
some real gems in there, but unidentified objects that they could they don't know
what they were, and all sorts of things like that. Well, the
thing is with that, with our show, we've everything that we've spoken about,
like say, within the last five years has happened. We're not we're
not. We're just do our research that sort, you know, and everything
we said is going to happen, and they're going to come out with and
this blah blah blah blah blah, it's actually happened. And it all started
with the Italian government coming out and saying, yeah, actually this happened.
It shot one of our helicopters down. Look, here's the evidence, here's
what happened. And then from there you had the Spanish government and then parts
of the eure at Germany refused to England refused to because they were with with
the with the US, and then South American. All the is a couple
of South American ones also, so yeah, coffee, which world Paraguay,
there was a Guadalajara, there was Brazil, lots from Brazil, and then
Lemur and few other and there's lots coming in and out of volcanoes and mountains,
and all of a sudden, their pictures started stopped going from being filmed
on a Nochia thirty three thirty or something to good quality that you could see,
you could track, and this is before AI and this is before the
really good computer graphics. So if you if you go into researching that you
can trace it or you can see when they started coming out. And then
obviously we said, well that the other governments are going to start to go
and tow and admit it. And then all of a sudden the US government
said that actually, yeah, we might have been paid visits, we might
have spoken to them, that the British government did. The French government came
out said yeah, it's because we did, you know, And then then
everybody else started going yeah, yep, yep, there here, So yeah,
yeah, there was twenty twenty seven will be interesting if we're still around.
But where things are going on this planet, of course, well,
I don't think there will personally. I don't think there'll be a nuclear war
because there's no winners in the nuclear No. No, it's I think a
lot of it so are do with skier mongering, the continuing skier mongering.
It's not that I've got bigger what's it's a new you know, we've got
to be scared about something all the time. Probably that's what they've been they
seem to be doing to me. Anyway, we were talking about aliens,
extraterrestrial aliens, and you sort of touched on it a bit earlier. You
must believe you like the dimensional aspects of it as well, not interdimensional aliens,
well, dimensions, extra dimensions, the multiverse. Everything has been proved
scientifically, there's the dimensions stay closer us so less than a micron away,
But we can't physically touch it because we don't have the science yet or the
equipment to do it. Who's to say somebody on the other side of that
doorway doesn't, you know. So a lot of these things, like if
you go back into legends like I'm Irish, and when you go back into
legend that the kings of Ireland before that they were descended from beings called the
twaft of the dNaM and the tweft of the the Nan came through a doorway
on part of Ireland and then they went out all over island. And then
when you look into all these little legends about it, and especially did North
American Native Americans look at their legends, they coincide with all that sort of
stuff. And I do believe wholeheartedly it's not just about our dimension here,
our planet, our universe with all these other planets. It's about the multiverse
and or the onion theory. You know, we're right in the middle of
it, and you got all these other lays you know. So there's there's
obviously other teams that must suspect. There's bad places, there's good places,
there's bad planets good planets. Like everywhere you go, every every town you
go, there's good bits and bad bits, the same as anywhere else.
You know, yeah, or if there's any sort of lot of slum planets
that you could end on, you know, well, I don't think it's
going to be We've already got we had the Impulse engine that's now a reality,
and we're now getting the warp engine, which is now a reality,
So you know it's not gonna be long. Yeah, No, it is
fascinating. And when you start talking about dimensional stuff, then it takes you
into the world of ghosts and stuff like that. I mean, do we
sometimes I think we've been seeing seeing ghost fact, we could be seeing aliens
or that. Yeah, we've again, we've had that discussion. Yeah,
well, when you if you the easiest way to think about it, our
body is just a vehicle for the real lust, the soul, whatever you
want to call it, the real us to interact with this particular plane,
this dimension. And once the body has given up because failed its and Gonka
put, we have to come out, and then we have to go to
either where we originally came from, or go on to somewhere else, or
start the start the recycling and come back as somebody else business. But who's
to say that on other planets the body is not different it's not carbon based,
it's not light based, it's not you, and it could all be
very very different like that, like these different dimensions. They may not need
the equipment to get through to us, because once you get beyond a certain
point of coming back better and better and better and better and better, you
may just be able to crossover. Who knows. And as you say yourself,
a lot of the paranormal sightings are either residual you know, stone take
theory, playback, this that and the other. But a lot of the
things that have been coming out, like the shadow creatures and this, that
and the other. I do not think a ghosts are demons. I think
they're possibly places where the doorways are thin and they're trying to come across and
let us know they're they're I don't think they're necessarily bad. But because it's
not quite there and the technology is not there, we see these scary things
and people are reportting them. You know, yeah, definitely, I know.
I mean, when you get into the dimensional thing, what a lot
you've been saying there, Like you said, the demon part of it comes
into it, and like you said, I agree with you that a lot
of those are probably just the other it's a dimensional elemental beings such that you
can touch on. It's not when you get into theories. And I mean,
I sup this was supposed to be about theories, Dudley think. You
know, I can't believe in those. But I met somebody, what about
a year or so ago, who was absolutely convincing about the fairies that she'd
experienced. You know, she's been on the show or my show, all
this show, and it was absolutely fascinating. And I actually do believe that
they exist there as elemental beings. Well, my thing is and bearing me
on this one. For every single legend, every single myth, there was
that spark, that original spark that started that legend, that myth, and
then when you look back at it, they used to think it was Neanderthal
and man that was it. No, no, no, it's not.
And it's like fifty different types of hormonin that came around. Then you've got
a homliflorensis the hobbit who were tiny, So why can't you have had these
tiny ones that existed? And that's where the original myth came from. I'm
a firm believer in all the cryptozoology things. There has to have been something
to start at dragons. You know, before the eighteen century, there wasn't
a word for dinosaur, you know, and every single dinosaur was called the
dragon. So again there had to be something that started off in the first
place. Yeah, and we're talked about small creatures. And also you've got
to take into consideration with the different sizes of different planets. Some planets a
thousand times bigger than ours or even you couln't even get one of a million
times bigger than ours, So that would take it the consideration that the beings
on that planet could be a million times bigger than we are. Yeah,
you know, yes, we don't think we're you know, we're big and
this, that and the other. But it's it's like they did it in
the Men in Black when they had that that whole system in a marble.
Yeah, you know, so we could be just a tiny, tiny speck
in the whole whole of everything, you know. Yeah, well, I
mean when you basically on the head, when when you've got a desk it
front, you have a chair, you've got well, you've got a universe
within the avenue, like atomic structures to say that those are tomic structures,
they they've got the same up of development as are there our planetry systems basically,
aren't they exactly. It's like the myths, like I'm saying about dragons,
there's you're not. Megafauna is like massive and massive creatures, massive flowers
everything. In Australia they had that. There was a type of dragon I
can't remember, type of lizzard. I can't remember what it is. But
they were like eighteen to thirty feet long, and they were they were in
the outback up until the mid eighteenth century, and then they weren't seen again.
And then they started being seen again in the seventies onwards, and they're
still being seen now, only way way out back in the most remote places.
But these things are like huge from when you're reading ports like you it's
not and that on steroids they're like ten times a size of one of them.
So there you go. Massive. Yeah yeah, hm hmm. Well,
I know you've got quite an interest in in that type of thing.
Lot do you believe in lot big fought and things like that. I mean,
have you had anyone on your show that's the experienced bigfore We've we've had
quite a few, I've I've we've had people before that I've interviewed, and
you know yourself, when you interview people, you can see if somebody you
can normally tell somebody is trying to pull a yarn or do it for a
couple. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. But I think I
think I've got one coming up soon, but I won't go into it.
I've had a couple that I've spoken to and they're genuine, and I do
believe. Do you want to know my own theory about why there? Right?
Do you remember when all the world's continents were one Pangaea, h you
had Giganti, Pikason, and you had a various other grade apes and now
these things went all over Pangaea, so all over this one massive continent.
Then they started to break up, with these things on each bit of this
this massive continent that's broken up into the continents we know now. That would
explain why you've got everything from the hairy men up in the mountains of Scotland
all the way over to the Skun Cape. Then you've got the Batan Yeti,
You've got the Himalayan Yeti, and then you've got the Yawei in Australia
as well, and not just that. But you've got the round pendicats reported
and everything, and that to me that explains why they're all over and why
there's sightings everywhere. Yeah, it's that big Foot. Why I don't understand
why it is that they could never find one. All these search parties that
go out looking for them, but they never seems to come across them,
do they its people? If they are actually inter dimensional bees themselves, that's
one of the things. That's one of the things they wonder if they are
over either from elsewhere and they've got the yeah they going portals or something,
yeah, or if over the millennia they developed their camouflage just such an extent
that they can just dump and fade and completely vanish in front of it.
Yes, funny you say that. I did see there was one of the
videos that you saw the other day. Oh, you have the video of
things. It's the parallel court and camera. I think it was one of
those as somebody was actually filming actually didn't know it was a yet ye at
the time or no, not yet big foot, and they actually saw it
sitting in the bushes, sitting in like the tree area. Then he saw
it once they saw it once the camera, you know, it's anyway.
It was very strange, but it didn't actually look real. I do think
that for everything, you know, all the all the the legends of everything.
I'm very open to stuff like that, and I'm like, well why
not? You know, so I think some things are like nah, but
other other things yeah, why not? Yeah? I mean things are like
the Lockless Monster. I mean, is it just one monster or is it
a family? You know? I think that because there's you've got the lot
Less one, and then you've got the one over in Norway, and when
the Lockness one is not seen, the Norwegian one is when the Norwegian one's
not seen, the Lockness one is seen, and all the tunnels go out
to see is it the spawning season? Do they go over to Norway and
they do their things there or they come over here here? Yeah? I
mean, and that brings us into something else here. Oh, those sorts
of things really paranormal, because really what they are to me is like undiscovered
creatures rather rather than being paranormal. I'll tell you what. One of the
things I saw. You know, the Thila scene is supposed to be extinct.
It's not. I saw. I've seen ring doorbell footage of some of
them, and I saw one of the best pictures I've ever seen of one
that was taken off somebody's ring doorbell about three days ago and it was his
flipping final the scene stood there looking looking at it. And what people forget
in Australia is as an island just off Australia. In the nineteenth century,
they did a bit, literally did an arc. They took two of the
each creature put it on this island because of the diversity that's there, and
they think that's somebody silent scenes and somebody. The other stuff that was on
there have actually come across from that island and got back onto mainland. Well,
so yeah, I do believe a lot of cryptozoology. It's not paranormal
at all, but they have to. They had a class as paranormal until
we know exactly what it is. Well. I mean also when you think
of it that way, I mean, aliens are not if aliens exist,
they're not parallel anyway. They no, they just come under the umbrella.
You know. I just come out of that brother, because there's something that's
not known for everybody. As well as what they called paranormal, really exactly.
I mean everybody says they're an expert on this, that and the other.
In the paranorma, you're not because it's not well known. We don't
know what it is yet. There's facally I mean, we're aliens sitting on
this pin if there's people are living on another planets, so we're the aliens.
So it's like, you know, they reckon that. There's there's other
creatures out there sat back at home watching our stuff that's gone out into the
cosmos. So when this has gone out into the cosmos, there's going to
be people on other planets watching us, going, do you know what they
really got it? Yeah, it's it's actually quite strange it because there's there's
people are there maybe millions of years more advanced than us. They could well
be watching us. There's a lot of the same program, couldn't they What
are they going to get up to next? I wonder? Yeah. Yeah,
it is the school of thought that we are a zoo for other people.
Yeah, so in the in the world of the paranorm we call it
all the paranormal. What what is actually your very favorite thing? It's got
it's got to u. My nickname is the alien guy, because yeah,
when we've just done it. Used to way was doing it with me,
I didn't matter what you'd find. I'd find a link to Aliens through whatever
we were talking about. And then I've got as soon as I found that
link, I got millions and shout it out and you see it? You
know, do you actually would have been any of the convinces that are around?
So I don't think I'll see you any of the us I've been,
so I haven't. I haven't been because quite frankly, it's been I went
for a bad patch with exes and things like that, not a lot of
money and then everything. So I'm starting to come back up. And as
the show started to get now, you know, we did get ours occasionally
to go on these things, and I'm more than willing to. I was.
I was asked if I'd like to go to one, and I think
it's coming up in Manchester myself and Wayne, so we're just waiting to hear
back about that. But yeah, I love going on these things now and
I'd quite happily appear as a guest or go and do a talk on whatever
on any of them. I love doing them. Yeah, is it awake.
Yeah, one that's coming up in Manchester. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't think I'm glad on that one this year because we're going to
America in Mace and I need all the money I can get. Yeah.
Yeah, we're actually we're actually having Rachel and I are having our first holiday
ever this year, so in April we're going to Belgium. Yeah. Oh
congratulations. Well I think you've got engaged, did you? Right on the
stroking Midnight New Years even I've got down on one knee in front of everybody.
I remember seeing the Facebook posts and it's very nice. Thank you.
So when's the big gonna be? Is a couple of years? Well,
no, idea. We we We've We've said in the next few years.
But we're it's one of one of those things we've we've both been married.
Yeah, I love each other the bit. She's the best thing's ever happened
to me. So we're just going to take it easy. We are we
are getting married, and it'll be all over Facebook and everything. But yeah,
it will be in the next next week, next I'd say we're in
the next five years. Yeah. I know where you're coming from, because
I'm going to say I'm on the third wife now. It's just great.
I mean, we just get a lot of household for her, and it's
just great compared to what the aas two. You know, we when you
meet that someone and you feel instantly you know, you met this before,
if you know what I mean before? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
you know, we were like twin flames or something like that. Yeah,
you feel like you've known her forever type of thing, don't you. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I'm sure there must be some sort of a thing
like that, you know. And I think people are brought together on purpose
as well. This thing is all kind of plenned because in the way Well
and I met each other, it seemed like, I don't know, it
seemed it seemed plenned. You know, everything fell into place to make us
meet, because otherwise that we weren't. We were onto a different planes,
so we wouldn't meet otherwise, you know, and it just seemed it just
seems strange, you know. But Rachel says, you meet people in your
life for one of two reasons, to learn something from them or they learn
from you. And as I say, we when we've spoken about it so
many times, we are so alike and so comfortable and just from from the
word go, it's we We wish sure we knew each other in a formal
life or whatever. Do you feel that you might have saved each other as
well? Because children, we kind of feel as if we saved each other
because I got her out of a position that she was in, and she
actually got me out of the position I was in, So exactly, we
kind of saved each other. You know. I think we were both on
we were both on that downward spiral before that she was doing Rachel was doing
well. She she had some issues and I was doing badly, and she
got me to sor she saved me. She sorted me out, putting me
on the right path everything and asking for help and stuff. And then she's
she's going around and said, you know what how I was before and how
I am now? You saved me. Yeah. Yeah, it's both to
each other, you know. Yeah, anyway we're going down there some sad
powerful but no, it's it's actually through what you're saying. Where are ghost
hunts? Do you ever go on ghost hunts? Yeah? Yeah, I
just recently did the first one with the Dark Mirror team about four weeks ago.
Oh anything interesting happened? Oh god, y. Yeah, it's the
first one that's ever been done at this place. It's the new in Thornton
Ladale in North Yorkshire. It's the most picturesque country little village in the country
apparently. And yeah, we went in there and we were finding out all
these sort of things and then it all came out that somebody been hung in
this place where you're in. You you could actually see with a rope that
gone over it beat really and you can see we're at warm Yeah. Yeah,
and it was all coming out. We were getting things on the SLS
camera and we we do check to make sure it's not shadow and like affections
and stuff, kicking those off, and it was somebody looking out in the
window and when we went outside and taking photos it was only afterwards we looked
and you can see something looking back. So but yeah, it's again that's
up on the dark mirror's wall, the first ever one. We did it
too. Parts we're going back again. I think it's June and we're going
to do the main bit of the punt that was the old building, the
old servants quarters that we did and that's where this story about everything that came
came about. But there's there's two entities that go into the main building that
we picked up on, and also the landlord and his missus have mentioned and
we're going to be investigating them next time and see what that's all about.
Very nice, Well, if you ever done this way, because I know
you you're very close to Wayne, could yeah, we could go a thing
together, but I know where you you're a bit too far north. You
think I'll be right yours if I live, you'll be read your ass at
the time. I think now, I absolutely love that you let us know
and I'll make sure i'm down there. Yeah, I mean we're going on.
We've arranged a couple of ghost homes forself for this year. In June,
we go into the castle and I don't know that as we were recording
this there tonight Waynes Wayne's sty doing the investigation this tonight as we're recording this.
Obviously, when it goes in that's they're all lucky to take all the
best places. But I've found that up here in Yorkshire people are very guarded
about the places that they have. They don't like sharing, they don't like
sharing with other people. And when I try and get places, I get
looked at like I've just fell out of a tree. It took a lot
to get this place. So yeah, but if you had to do one
waiting myself to come on, please let us know because I'll make sure on
that. Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely would like to do that.
I mean, I'm going to have Wayne on the show in a few
weeks anyway, no doubt we'll be talking about you. But baby, we
can't come. Yeah. I like Wayne. It's a good look. That's
the bad times as well. I know he's told me about. But I
don't know what it is in the paranormal world. We seem to I know
a lot of people that have had bad times personally, and I think in
some ways the paranormal kind of save them a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know if you agree with me, and that is that something.
I know several people who have had really bad times. You know.
I think it gives you a lot more insight into what things could be,
what could be there, what outcomes could possibly be. And I think it
does help if you've had well a bit of crap in your life, if
you've sat back and been at such a low ebb that you can't see any
ways out. I mean, I don't mind admitting I have in the past.
And when you go on these things and you find out the stories of
what's happened in this and you realize the people way way worse off than you've
been, oh yeah, and it just gives you that bit of insight,
you know, like I see it as you get a carnival whitening. I
don't know else to describe it. I went from reading books to seeing stuff
too, and then going through a very bad patch of my life, and
then when I went on my first one, I was like, Wow,
and you do you see things in a totally new pair of glass? Yeah,
you do. I agree, And talk about the paran all war is
there's been some things going on late with a particular person we were, but
I don't really know what it's all about, do you. I mean,
what is wrong with this This person who seems to think that he's better than
everybody else, uh, and he thinks that everyone else is rubbish used to
be a paranormal investigator. He used to do lots of it, and then
started appearing on a very very minor TV show that you can't even get on
mainstream TV with a certain person who is known for being bigoted, big headed
and all that sort of things. And then, for some god knows what
reason, this person decided that they were then going to act or like this
person who show they were on, because they had no idea why, and
they decided to act like that. And then they started belittling and poo pooing
everybody in the paranormal world and trying to act like this person. And long,
long story short, we were we did talk, we were friends.
And then I stood up to and said, look, mate, come on,
what are you doing. This is when he did it the first time.
And then he just started being so rude and nasty and talking down to
everybody. And He's right, everybody else is wrong. It's narcissism in its
purest form, you know. And then basically they shot their career to pieces
because of it, lost so many people. And then they went quiet,
and we all just said, right, okay, if you stop it.
And then then they started to blame their mental health for this that, and
I know, don't do that. You've been called out. We all know
what you did, we've all seen it, we've all read it. Stop
hold youand up, yeah, I own that was my fault. I'm really
sorry, and that would have been the end of it. And then bugging
me, it started again, but worse than it was before. And he's
literally a playground bully and he's got so nasty with everyone. Well, it's
just basically it's just aliened everybody who is in the field. Basically, I
mean even anyone not who's not been involved in any sort of arguments has really
said, oh, well, I can see what's going on. I'll block
this bloke. We don't know. I'm not interested. And I will say
that he was on my show, this particular person a couple of years ago.
I won't really give an opinion about it because it's not fair, but
it did come over as a little bit as a as a supremo, if
you like. But it's unfortunate because I don't really want to name the person
because he's not fair, because he's not here to defend himself. But we
think the person is that he was given a chance to defend himself twice now
on a show and he's literally just slated everybody anything that's been put to him.
And we've we've got all evidence screenshots on this, that and the other,
and he's like, no, no, that never happened, didn't happen.
You're all just out to get me. I know what I'm talking about.
You a lot of idiots and it's the same stuff, just stuck and
repeat. So yeah, I see. I just don't understand it at all,
just that it just doesn't make sense to me. You know, I
have no genuinely have no idea. I've never met. I mean, we've
done a show about people with egos in the paranormal and we all know it
happens, and like it would be nice if par unity was a real thing.
But you do get like my team's better than your team. This my
show is better than you, and it's it's nonsense. I do all this
stuff because I just love doing it. Don't do it for watching your money.
This person does, and I've never ever met at He makes Zach Baggins
look like a good guy. I've got no opinion about exact Beggins. I
don't actually mind you, to be honest, but I guess some people have
got a bigger ego. But I've got to say most of the people I
have met have been a paranoal Wolf in the UFO. Really lovely people.
There's been your there's been your one or two. You would step be in
the beg for a penny, you know. And I've met those, I've
experienced them, and they sort of use you for what they could get out
of you. Yeah, you know, when they know you've got a lot
of people that sort of you know quite a few, but they don't know.
They want to get in with you so they can get to them.
You know. I've had that experience quite a few times, and it's not
really nice when you find out what they've been able to. It's it's not
And then when you when you have like I mean, I've had it myself
with certain friends who ditched everybody like hotcakes because they thought that their career was
going and then it's gone faulted. And then because the show's taken off,
I suddenly get people, oh, hello, do you remember me? It's
like you won the lottery, And it was all the sort of the old
come back out of the wood book. I mean, I don't hate anybody,
even this person who's doing this this problem. I don't hate them a
problem. Yeah, they just become someone that you're not interested in you spare
the time to argue with them the time of day, and that's that's what
That's what it boils down to. Basically, I've sort of blocked him my
Facebook not interested. Unfortunately, has become a stranger. Don't know which is
which is unfortunate for him really because he cut he cut himself off from everyone
that's in the Basically, as as we've all said, it's a self inflicted
wound. He's done it to himself and no one else has done it to
him, no matter what he says, he did it all to himself.
So what shows have you got coming up with anything interesting? I've got Kerry
Greenaway on next week. Carry used to do the show with me and we
will be friends for years. And to be fair, Kerry green Away,
I believe lives on Canby Canby All we're a few times of different things,
but there's been many a time we've been around their place and the parties happen
and the drinks have come out and anything like. Absolutely, but no,
so many investigations together and as I say, we used to do the show
for years. Really nice person on the show. I want to get a
few people on in in the coming months. We've got a new presenter who
joins us from America every week now, Josh Josh. What the hell is
his name? Josh? Yeah, and he's like our guy across the pond,
talks about UFOs and stuff. And yeah, there's just so many people
that are on my face, but I mean so interesting, and I talked
to you and I'm like, I want them on the show, but me
from remembering names not forget it. It's funny, you know, you told
these people we all of a sudden you think of somebody, You think,
what's just saying because you don't really use the second name. Do you call
them Jim or John or Dave or work? And do you think, of
course, what was his second name? So I just looking at the dog
behies in Cambra, looking at it. We're gonna see what's going on.
But yeah, now there's quite a few people I want to have on this
year, but I've just got to send them messages and say, come on.
There's some things around here as well that happened in Yorkshire that you've got
to think called the worlds trying. I know there's quite a few places.
Actually I want to go to York. I've never been to York and Shambles.
Yeah, I really want to visit up that way. I mean,
I know I've been to Yorkshire. I've been to things like the home Firth
and the few other places, but I really need to go out here for
a couple of days Yorks somewhere like that, and I look around you.
We'll come to meet you. Absolutely, Yeah, we'll do that because I
mean, now the summer's coming. I'll do intensive sort of a few days
up that way. Yeah, I'll take you before we sort of wind up.
When you go on your investigations your parents, what's all equipment you use?
Always interest me to watch because I lightly equipment. You know, it's
meters and stuff. When I first started, you name it, I had
it, and I used to take it. And then I watch things run
out of batteries and get broken and this, that and the other. Me
personally, now when I do investigations that I use, you're going to think
I'm cracked. Both my daughters are gifted, and I've I've always had the
ability of when I walk into place, I can sense it as something there
and can't tell if it's male or female. All I can tell you is
if it's good or bad, and that that's as far as I go.
But I use that and I like to use either a K two meter or
an app on my phone. There's one app on my phone that I use
that I absolutely love, and I've tried and tested lots and lots of different
apps, and I find that it's it's the best one and it is Partech,
that's what. But that's about it. And like with Wayne, I
want use weediboards. I'll do one with somebody, but I have them in
the house or anything for reasons. But Wayne uses the dowsing rods. And
when we did that investigation up here in Yorkshire, I had the camera and
the light on him, just because I'm very skeptical about hands maybe, and
his hands were perfectly still, and these things little till, don't you.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, But these things were answering to intelligent conversations,
intelligent questions. So that made me go. So it's like I used
to use a pendant, but I've noticed now dependulum. I've noticed now slightest
when your pulse goes, and it makes your hand do that imperceptibly, it
makes it move. So I don't use that when you're actually holding your hand
up for a while, you're you know, you're not moving, You've got
a little bit of a tremble going on. And I'll actually use the proximity
center as well, SLS and victrum. Yeah, what about a rampod.
I'll usually likely seeing the results of those on the on these ghost shows because
obviously to get to a remport you if you're way away from it. I've
got one that was made for us by one of our show's hosts, Eric.
He made one in America and he sent it over and it's a skull
and it works, but it is brilliant pretty well, so I use that.
Yeah. Well, what I've said on a couple of investigations and it
really blew my mind, was that the torches going on and off, yeah,
Meg worked. Yeah, I'm always skeptical about that because I have I
won't say names or anything, but I have been investigations where I've seen people
making it up and I've seen torches which have got a dodgy switch and they
can be set to do it and stuff. So I'm very well answering to
yes and nose and as well, I don't I've never used to talk myself,
but as I say, I'm so because of some of the things I've
been on. I'm skeptical about it because I've seen them being used. But
it's I'm like that about them. I know what you mean. I mean,
I think you've got to go in as a skeptic on all these things.
Anyway. You can't just think that everything that happens is you know,
like a coast or wherever it is. You've got to take in consideration crinky
doors and crikey floorballs and drafts and everything else like that, especially in old
buildings. Yeah, I think the thing is is when you do an investigation,
and you'll know yourself when you see it on the TV programs. Every
single time they do investigation, something happens. But when you do it yourself,
normally the only thing your catch is a cold. But it's still right
yard Well, I mean obviously, I mean we've said, I mean,
when you see these shows on the TV, they could be there for several
or eight hours and you're seeing something or cut down to within twenty minutes or
something, so it's not everything. It's all kicking off in all that time.
So when they'll probably get as bored as the amount of times I've got
on things. I think by sort of like one o'clock in the morning,
you think, oh, so I'm so bored and cold. I was just
I was just want to go home, and then all of a sudden something
happened and you think that was interesting. And it's always after midnight. I
always find the place. If you start too early, you're just like I
want to go home. And then normally about one o'clock in the morning,
that past midnight and one o'clock everyone just starts sitting around, have a cup
of coffee. Don't cheat. That's the worst one anyway. Well, I
guess it's uh, we'll call it a day, and it's been great.
Ave you on no as I say, when if you if you have come
down this way, give us a shout and we'll talk something. Well yeah,
oh yeah, we'll give us a shot with everything. You're coming down
person, If you're going to rendleship or something, I'll go with you.
But at some point this year as well, in the summertime, all right,
we'll But if ever you're then well, way, please, you know,
come around for coffee or dinner or whatever. But you know you always
send you me a dresk if you're coming up to York so anyway. Yeah,
yeah, well i'd like to come out that way. I'm definitely want
to come to York anyway, So we'll give you a shout on that.
We're Inborough. We're there, we're near the beach and there's a thing here
right there's a lookout point right at the top and I always forget the bloody
name, but it's what they did in the motor cycle racing. It's a
UFO hotspot and there's been corroborated sightings on this particular point. Yeah, so
I'll show you it. Yeah, they'd love to anyway. Yeah, thanks
for coming on, Mart, it's been great talking to you, and we'll
do it again at some point. Yes, please, i'd like to again.
You have to come on as again. Yeah, I'd love to just
goss a shout wherever you want to if if I've got anything more interested to
say what they're doing a few I suppose I can tell you what we've been
doing lately after the a couple of investigations we're going on. So what I'm
hoping something will happen. I'll tell you what you get somebody your stuff done
and remind me and a couple of months, we'll get you back on.
You can talk about what you've been up to. Yeah, okay, but
then you've got to deal. I let you go. Thanks for coming on,
and take care of yourself, right, cheers, right, see you
later. Yeah, cheers both cheers. Papa, Thank you, Mark,
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