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The object was flying head on at us.

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It was fifty times the magnitude of
the brightest star. I immediately made

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an abrupt turn to avoid collision.
As I looked to my left, the

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object appeared to come to a stop. Can you describe the shape of the

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object. It appeared as a perfectly
streamlined object without wings or tail section,

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as it was silhouetted against the full
moon at all times. It had a

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brilliant shimmering blue light in the nose. It was traveling at fantastic speed,

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and although it had passed off our
left wing tip, it circled us in

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a manner of seconds and appeared off
our right wing. There again, it

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stopped and we watched it for several
second. When again it started, it

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reversed its direction. We watched it
for several more seconds until it disappeared in

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the east out of sight. Have
you ever seen any other similar object?

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Captain, never before or since.
Let me know when you've got your instruments

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ready and I need all the figures
I can get. You're listening to Paranormal

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Dimensions with David Young, part of
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biggest visit us for a new episodes
fortnightly on Mondays. For now, let's

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start today's show. Hello, and
welcome to the show. I'm David Young,

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and thank you for that lovely intro. Emma, nicely done well for

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this show. As usual, we're
going to be delving into all kinds of

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weirdness, and for this particular occasion, I've got another guest who's got his

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own paranormal podcast and it's called Dark
Mirror, so this conversation could go in

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all kinds of directions. And his
name is Mark Manly, so I shall

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waste noe more time. I'd like
to introduce Mark Manley to the show.

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Hello, Mark, welcome to the
show. Thank you very much for having

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me. It's nice to welcome you
to my show. There's a cat walking

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about behind you or is it something
else? Or is it something else weird?

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This is the younger Bob. He's
been on the show lots of times

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and normally you get a bum or
a tail or something. I'll see a

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couple of radios sitting behind you.
There's even all sorts of things. Yeah,

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but the Star Wars place in Disney
World in America for people on on

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the radio, on the network.
I'm sitting talking to Mark on the camera

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and he's got a couple of stuffed
iOS and some Star Wars pictures up behind

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you. Now, I'll tell you
what. Let's just sort a little bit

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about Star Wars for start, just
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You did a little bit of the
thing a few years ago, you told

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me, oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Back in More.

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I think it's two thousand and seven. I think two thousand thousand and seven.

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And I used to teach martial arts
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years and years and boxing and everything. And I'm belonged to I think called

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the x Wing Foundation, e x
Wing Foundation. It's charity charity place for

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people like me who were nuts and
Star Wars. And I was asked if

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I would do a full dress,
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fight at their next convention, and
there was a load of the actress from

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the original films there, so of
course I went and then me and me

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and my mate Mike. We practiced
for over a year and I had some

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kids from my martial arts school doing
it. I had a baby, well,

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a young Daft mall. I was
Daft Bane his master and what else

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will we and we had we had
Mike who was playing Cipher Diaz and yeah,

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we did a full blown martial arts
fight in front of Jeremy Bullocker's Bobaft,

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David Brow's Kenny Baker was there.
Mister Bronson from Grangeill who was Admiral

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as All. Yeah, yeah,
he was there as well. And Mike.

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On those photos you've seen in my
Facebook, there's one where Mike's on

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his back on the floor that wasn't
staged. He was. He got staged

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for and there was a bit where
I do in rich hand which is the

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side of my hand, to his
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other one because he's caught that hand, caught that hand, and then I

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do a fake head button. He
got stage right and just stayed looking at

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me. He's on the floor.
The stormtroopers who were lining the ring are

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all miked up because they're all part
of five or first Squadrone mid him starting

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the gig on. I've looked down. There's Mike on the floor spark out

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and he's got a massive blue egg
where my face paints come wo coming up

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in his head with bun stuff,
and I'm going, I like your head,

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your head, and he's like,
you know that was I remember.

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He's saying that, ladies and gentlemen
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know. Oh yeah, So I
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Star Wars films. It was one
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Walks. His name was Mike Something. I don't know if you ever met

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him or but I suspect he was
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Yeah, I think he was.
I know it was in the past.

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Strikes back probably a few of the
others. But you know, when

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you've gone back years, I can't
remember what your second name was. But

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we're really stood around and I don't
know, but straight enough, because I've

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got every time I met them.
I got I got Star Wars encyclopedia,

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and I got every single actor to
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else he was in. He was
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was a few. Yeah, he
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someone that was in the time Bed, it's send the Star Wars films.

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But anyway, apart from that,
you've got your own show called The Dark

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Mirror. Yeah, the Dark Mirror
Radio show. Yeah, on Facebook,

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YouTube, the Things Network and simply
speaking network on Twitter and Instagram as well.

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Now that's right, Yeah, yeah, I know you were a few

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platforms. Well give good. Well
you talk about a lot of things the

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same as I do. Yeah,
all sorts of different paranormal types of things.

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You were foes, the ghosts and
all sorts of stuff normally, don't

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you. Well, the thing is, I've heard a lot of shows previously.

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Now I'm not done about now,
but shows previously, and the ones

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that used to be on the TV
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we used to do this the Dark
Mary Show for years and years and years,

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and it was myself charricter anyway,
loads of others and then they went

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off and did their own thing,
and then I took that, took on

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the Dark May shows my own thing, and I changed it to we talk

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about every single aspect of the paranormal
because you know, as you know,

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the parent normal is a massive umbrella
for everything that's different I like, and

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I'll call out fakes, Charlatan's dodgy
videos, all this sort of stuff.

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But we're going to talk a bit
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there's been something rumbling along, wasn't
it. And then then but we'll go

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bang with loads and loads of facts
because I love doing research, and I'll

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it's the thing about the paranormals is
when you start down one rabbit hole,

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you end up a million others.
Yeah, you find a lot of things.

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Are links, aren't they? Yeah, exactly like we do. The

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main things that we do because my
my own forte is cryptotology, upology,

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and certain conspiracy theories. Because there
are some conspiracy theories that quite frankly,

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you must have taken a lot of
I agree, So yeah you probably you

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probably agree with the same one as
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ones. The craziest one I've ever
heard was that our planet is actually a

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prison planet, and all the sightings
of Bigfoot and Yetties and everything like that

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is there's a ghost. It's a
white cats She has her own following a

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dog. She's a white German shepherd
that she's the dark married dog. Yeah

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that all us, sorry, all
Bigfoot and yetty sightings are actually prisoners from

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another planet and they were put here
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when I heard that, I was
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lot of crap pop ones out there. And was it the flat Earth as

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well? No doubt it was a
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the flat earth is have you got
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everything off the edge of the world, No, it's not flat? Yeah,

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it's true. Trust me to knock
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can never get me hit around that. It's there's some people we're just so

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convinced about it isn't you know,
it's it's just it just seems crazy to

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me. Unfortunately, it's not a
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And where we can't go out there
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right out of the space to prove
that the Earth's globe, you know it's

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it's freak and then not really doing
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right, like the firmament. Because
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videos or messages sent to me saying, oh, have a look at this

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and have a look at that,
and yeah. I had somebody like,

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I'm I'm not religious, but I
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end, definitely not the end,
and that there is something definitely afterwards,

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but I don't know what it is
yet. But you know, I respect

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anybody's religious. If you're religious,
that's fine. I'm not going to jump

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on it. But I've had people
send me messages about the firmament and I'm

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like, you mean the big invisible
barrier that surrounds our planet so we can't

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get out, that's right, Well, okay, can you explain Voyager one

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and voiag you two to me?
Then? Please? And they have no

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answer, and it's like, well, it's left our universe, so you

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know, where's this bubble that surrounds
our planet. I think the firmament is

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possibly how they could describe the statusphere
and atmosphere back millennia ago. I think

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that's possibly one of the explanations of
how that came about. But you know,

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it's the thing I quite like about
ufology and religion and history is when

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you actually properly look into it,
there were people before us, but they

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weren't. They weren't actually gods.
They were just from other places with technology

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way way ahead of what we've got
either. Now. Yeah, I mean,

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let's go back to that. Do
you do you think some of that

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could have been alien technology as well? I mean, I do believe that

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the ancient Alians have come here.
I mean you probably see those of the

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TV shows, like a lot of
the structures. I mean, we have

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trouble building them now, wouldn't we
a lot of the structures that are being

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built in the past. Yeah,
And that's got all those that's got the

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warnings on it and everything. When
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let's have like Sumerian times, you
look at the epics of Gilgamesh and everything

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like that, and then you look
at the king's list. Yeah, thank

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you, le loove. And you
look at the king's list and it tells

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you about these kings that were so
incredibly lived and they lived for the one

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hundreds of thousands of years, you
know, and they would direct the direct

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descendants from the AMENARKI. So you
know it's all there. You just got

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to go searching for it. And
then when you line up all the religious

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books. They all have the same
events that happen on exactly the same time

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lines. But it depends which culture
you come from as to how these beings

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appeared to that culture. Yeah,
when you see here they live free hundreds

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of thousands of years, I mean, could they not have been measuring time

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differently to what we do? Now? Maybe I suspect they do. I

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suspect they do or did because times
of man made concept anyway, isn't it.

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Yeah, of course, yeah when
there it does theos it's just a

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measurement thing we use. But yeah, I definitely believe the wasa AGAs definitely.

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Yeah. Just depleted uranium has been
found in Russia at one point five

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million years old. You can only
get depleted uranium via man made process.

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It does not happen in nature,
so you know, And when you look

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at things like the Mahabanata and stuff
like that, they talk about the gods

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having a fight with therm. Nuclear
happens. And then when you go to

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India there's spots which have still got
nuclear radiation in for something like seventy five

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thousand years ago. Well, yeah, the Maharbaretic it goes back thousands of

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years before Barb, isn't it,
you know, And it's like they talk

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about all this and one of the
craziest things I heard was that Jesus,

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don't hang the messenger. Don't hang
the messenger, just be talking. But

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Jesus and a few of the prophets
I won't name any names, were actually

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you know, either hybrids or they
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through China, and he studied all
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you know, his religion was based
on all the different things that he saw.

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Yeah, I mean, I've got
to say, there's not any real

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proof that Jesus Christ actually lived,
is there you know someone? Now,

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there's nobody in history that can say
that he actually did live, was a

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as a real person. You know, he's not in any history books,

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so I think the only place you
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And he's not a white guy with
blonde hair as was made out from

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the Middle East. You know.
Obviously time I'm not having to go any

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like you're not any religious people.
We're just pointing out effectual thing here that

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you know there isn't a real person. But I don't necessarily I think is

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what they say. I think he's
a very clever person. I think there

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might be some Roman Roman records.
Isn't he talking about kill to get into

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the Vatican bols? Yeah, I
don't think. Yeah, I'd love to

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get it himself, but we'll have
to break it. Well, we'll go

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together, we'll break Definitely. I
think it's putting in the more than that.

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But yeah, a bit of some
real secrets in there. I mean

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there is they say there is evidence
that the popes eventually been that you admit

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with it isn't whether it's true.
Again, it's one of those things you

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can't prove. It's just one of
those stories that gets around and is it

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true, isn't it? You know, you just sort of make your own

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mind up about it. It's it, definitely. I've read several supposedly real

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accounts from one of the only couple
of people who've been able to look at

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the Vatican bolts, and the things
that they've said is down. There's just

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absolutely astounding. Yes, there's proof
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But I personally think because there's so
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doorways everywhere, you know, like
skin walk arounds this, that and the

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other. I think our concept of
angels and demons are not what they really

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are. I think it was when
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it says about good and bad having
a scrap on here, and then when

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you look back at all the epics
like Giggle mention stuff, it talks about

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the end keep good and bad.
Dam and n Iki have a scrap falling

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out with each other because the bad
ones didn't like us and wanted to wipe

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us out because we were the favorite
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to have a chance to prosper,
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And that's where in every single book
you've got all these fights going on,

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and I think that's where you get
angels, and that's where you get

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demons from all this. And they
were like, you know, I'm actually

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read that book at the moment as
the demons then one, oh yeah,

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that's a good book. Yeah,
it talks about all the treasures in the

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Vatican as well. That's right.
I see. I've read all the Dan

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Brown books that follow that character and
I love them all, but I do

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find them all there's some parts that
get intrinsically intellectual when you don't need to

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describe. Yeah, sat chair,
so what you know. Yeah, I've

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got the collectors editions as well.
We're ordered the designs and all in it.

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You know, quite interesting. So
yeah, I mean there's so many

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different subject fitting go into here.
That's well, I guess we've covered the

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ancient alias part of it. Now. Have you had any experiences of your

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own? I mean, have you
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it's not something I actually talk about
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my mom and I I was only
core six seven years old. I thing

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we saw something like we didn't well
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we saw this brick red cigar shaped
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we lived in the countryside and it
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it was to me back then,
it was massive, but I would say

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it would have been about fifty foot
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yeah, on on legs, and
we didn't see it see it come

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and then we saw like a right
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as it curved around like a door
came down, but we didn't. We

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don't remember anything after that. We
neither my mom normal because I've asked her

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about it several times since, she's
like, she remembers it, but she

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don't know what happened. We saw
this door open and and then next thing

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I know, I've turned around.
The mom said, oh, what about

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that thing? You know? What? What what is that? Mummy?

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You know? And we've looked again
and the doors are closed and it's still

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there. And then we've looked again
it's gone. So wow, we lost

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a bit of time. We lost
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if I remember. But that was
that was one of the old things that

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we've seen. It's quite but it's
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you could well have been taken into
the ship, could you for all you

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know? If you see time and
all that. And the other thing is

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when you know, because the present
showed, Wayne said, and he's my

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cop center. When we went to
I can never remember the name of the

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place, Singy Forest, UK's area
fifty one, when the UFO came down

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and the USAF went and chased after
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the one, thank you. We
were we were filming for the t v

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P there, which is one of
the things that wayne taking a break from

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filming, and we were leaned against
the UFO monuments there where the actual things

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supposed to landing, and we looked
but it was like, yeah, there's

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a black triangle we actually managed to
take. It's on the dark mirror's wall.

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If you scrolled out going to the
medium photos, look at it.

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That's what. Ah. Well,
you know I lived thend the shop,

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and I actually know quite a few
of the people that were involved in it

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that that actual model is actually not
where it landed. They've just found a

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convenient little to put them to put
them on you and on basically the next

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field, wasn't it Yeah, well
it wasn't even in the field they went.

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They went across the field because there
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I mean they were looking at lights. Basically there was nothing actually landed in

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Caple Green. No, no matter
what somebody else is, uh, you

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know, they're actually following lights across
the field. But on the first event,

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it actually landed in the forest at
some point some you know exactly it's

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old to explain exactly where it was
on, you know, on the radio

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show, but there wasn't landing within
the field within the forest. Sorry,

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the third. The second night is
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day, well, it was actually
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Boxing day morning. There was a
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somebody lost their apparently lost their gun
in the forest and then because they got

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frightened about something. Now that was
a second event. I was that it

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was the second night, because it
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first night, or it could have
been on the third night, on the

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earlier hours, on the early hours
of the third night. So there's a

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little bit of a controversy about that
second occurrence. But I mean the two

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main nights, because that was actually
two nights after on the third what they

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called the third night. So it's, uh, it's a bit difficult to

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sort of pin it down to a
natural date for that one of those things

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where there's so many myths and stuff
that's around it and you have to pick

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away and take all the stuff out. And I mean when Colonel Holt did

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his whole his famous Holt Memorandum,
he actually put the wrong date on it

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as well, which threw a lot
of people off because obviously he wrote it

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in early January. When he was
looking at the notes and because of ordered

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the shift changes and things like that, I think he must have just got

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confused and put the wrong date on
the on the thing. I don't know

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if that was actually done on purpose
or if it was done to cover things

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up a little bit, because they
tried to tried to blend in the whole

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thing that happened over the different nights
into one occur work's basically so tom blend

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blurs because it was never meant for
the public obviously public consumption for the public

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to see. It was only meant
for our our security services, basic the

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government. Uh. But of course
he into the up coming out with the

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news of the world and everything well
because of a couple of writers that got

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it out. But yeah, and
then from there it all blew up.

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The otherwise would never have heard about
it. If it worked for the for

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the whole being released exactly where where
that monument is in the forest, we

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were looking at and we saw three
lights and then they weren't. We looked

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and we checked. They weren't playing, they weren't helicopters, they weren't drones,

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and they weren't anything. They went
starlink and it wasn't the need because

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we checked on everything and we saw
these things come over. One of them

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went like that and they were like
an orange color. They weren't in normal

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color. And most of the marks
waving his head up and down like a

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wave wave, a wave that you've
remember, we're on the radio. And

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each one of them we heard a
jet out being scrambled, come absolutely hairing

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out, and we saw these jets
go after and tear after each and that's

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when the big triangle appeared above us. We didn't hear it come, and

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the only reason we know it was
because when we looked up it was a

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very start clear starry sky. This
triangle. You could see the three points

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of light. There was nothing inside
that triangle, no pelt points of light

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or anything, and yet there was
loads of stars everywhere. So that's the

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photo that I managed to get.
Yeah, it's quite an experience. We

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went. I spent quite a few
nights going up to renovant for us and

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walking around in the early hours of
the morning with a group of people,

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we often saw strange mists. Letter
You couldn't see it with your eyes,

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but when you took photos, they
came out in the photos and you get

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strange shapes of alien shapes and all
sorts of things. Well, I mean

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Brenda Butler are no quite Well,
she's got some amazing photos and things that

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she took when she used to go
out there. He is there, really

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is. But there was a there
was a couple of occasions we actually,

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I mean somebody, I think somebody
else spotted it. First there was a

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star moving and then stopping and moving
and stopping, and all of a sudden,

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now I started moving and stopping them. So there were two of them

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moving and stopping. And yeah,
we were watching it for quite some time

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on one particularly, and that was
down at Eastgate. Yeah. Yeah,

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yeah, Well, when you actually
get into the forest itself, I know

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exactly what you mean about the miss
because Wayne and i'd been there a few

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times. And when when you start
taking photos of the forest itself, you're

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right on a lot of the photos. Depending where you are, you get

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this flipping miss come up and it's
not there, but it's there on the

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photos. And yeah, it's got
somebody smoking, because you know, you

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get usually get people smoking around you. But like you say, he has

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missed it. You can't actually see
with your eyes. It's the same as

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somebody somebody orbs you see. I've
seen twice. I've seen all shapes that

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we've been. We've been naked eyes, but most of them said they're come

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out on the camera. And I
would argue with people that say they're always

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dust or moisture, because what it
is, when you take most of the

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photos you take, they'll come out
black. You know, nothing comes out,

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and all of a sudden you'll get
a bunch of maybe three or four

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photos with all these orbs in it, and and over those three or four

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photos you can see those particular orbs
have moved in different positions, you know,

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and then all of a sudden you'll
be back to taking black photos again.

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Now, I mean, if there
was dust or moisture, you get

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in order photos. That's the way
I see it. Yeah, that's that's

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some of the things I get we
sent into the show. We often get

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videos sent in, and I find
that's the one thing that people get really

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upset over it because I'm always honest. I'm not rude or off hand or

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anything. Video. I look at
it and I can see what it is

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straight away, because with our stuff, I'd far rather trying to disprove it

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and then no matter whatever's left,
that's got to be something akin to the

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truth, you know. Yeah.
But I've had had one person sent me

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a video of somebody. It was
on a CCTV of somebody walking down the

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corridor, turning left and going towards
the kitchen, and then safe turned left.

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The camera's right on the on the
corner there, and they stirred up

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dust because you know, when you
walk, you leave awake, and you

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can see the dust have been stirred
up. Followed the and then when it

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came back, it did exactly the
same thing again, and I said,

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oh, thank you. You know
it's dust. You can see it is.

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Oh my god. They were swearing
worse than an army cook. And

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this was like some gentle lady over
in America, and it's like, oh

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yeah, you know. Yeah.
A good example of that is a lot

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of TV programs when you see camera
lights, you see all the dust in

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the in the camera lights, so
you're actually seeing that. That's what you're

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seeing basically on your on your camera, but there's that is not always what

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you're taking with your digital camera in
the dark, and there is a difference

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as a big difference. Yeah,
while we're sitting here and there talking is

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that's floating about and surely you get
you see it. But I've done one

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investigation pound on investigation where we've actually
had two orbs and they were they were

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like a black color and you couldn't
see them the naked eye. They were

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only appearing on on digital cameras,
and it wasn't just one camera, it

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was on several cameras and it was
the same two ords, and they followed

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usrom room to roomter room, and
we put an em pump in downstairs,

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and these things followed us downstairs and
we were filming them on on a night

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vision camcorder and we're filming these two
going round and round and round this this

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em pump and then when we turned
the em pump off, they just went

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up. Yeah. Yeah, it
do seem to be intelligent, don't They

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Also on some of the ones that
convinced me, I know, you can

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get in sick and things that that
could look like it, but you do

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see them. Sometimes they'll they'll go
across the screen and then they'll change direction.

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You know, obviously that's not dust, is it? You know,

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definitely not. Some people argue,
some people will argue with instinct, but

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I don't think, you know,
some of them might be. I think

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on some of these ghost shows,
you can see it's a lot on off

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or something that's flown out, you
know. But but there are some other

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stranger ones where when you know they're
supposed to be activity in that room and

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you do see an all the screen, they don't see they mentioned it too

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much now a lot of these ghost
hunting shows, like they used to in

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the old days, I guess that
they just sort of think that wherever I

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was gonna call it, and you
know that that's why I donother saying about

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it. I think a lot of
the shows, I mean, at the

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end of the day, things like
most haunted of that if it hadn't been

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for them, we wouldn't be in
the mainstream now we're still exactly Yes,

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So we've always I know, I've
always got them to thank. But they

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were the ones who anything, they
would jump out and sets of ghosts and

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sets of an orban, this,
that and the other. When now we

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look at those things, you know
so well they probably believed it anyway.

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I mean, I didn't like you
say it was the It was the early

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days of ghost hunting, Wasn't it
really as we know it today? I

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used to watch it all the time. Oh yeah, I've got loads of

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DVDs here. Don't be a child
to watch them. But yeah, I

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00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,200
still love it. I mean,
I'm going to see the show actually in

408
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,799
June. I think it's in South
End is no, sorry, that's May,

409
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,000
just before we go on holiday mayor
twenty second. We're going to see

410
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,920
the most talk show on stuff.
We've got front row seats as well,

411
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,880
so I'm quite looking forward to that. That should be fun. Yeah,

412
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:44,960
But so mean as as the aliens
go, I mean, did you?

413
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:49,720
I mean, I reckon this?
I reckon We've been visited probably by probably

414
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:55,640
hundreds of different species over the years, from what I've heard from other people.

415
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:59,559
You know, obviously I've never said
not to my knowledge, I've never

416
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:11,559
seen an alien face to face for
silf what in laws? Yeah, I'll

417
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:15,880
cut this bit out for you in
case you get But yeah, I know

418
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,000
what you mean. But no,
I've never seen an alien face to face.

419
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:23,960
I've seen UFOs over the years.
But I do believe that we have

420
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:29,240
been visited by many different species,
and I do believe that in the past

421
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,279
they've probably, like like you said, skirmishes and wars and things, you

422
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:37,599
know. Definitely. Yeah, well, it's like all this drip feeding that's

423
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,519
coming out, that all all the
stuff comes down to. They have been

424
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,599
trying to say that is it twenty
twenty seven, The truth's going to come

425
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,079
out, and that in twenty twenty
seven they're going to be here and then

426
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:53,200
there's nothing that the government can do
or say about it. They can't continue

427
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,400
lying that it'll just be banged.
We're here. We told you to prepare

428
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,799
the people for our visit. We
are here, you know, here we

429
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,640
go. And that's why all the
drip feedings coming in and all the whistleblowers

430
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,119
and all this that and the other. So if that's what's genuinely going to

431
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,839
happen, and okay, fair enough, I believe that when I see it,

432
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,880
to be honest, if if I
but look look at me, I've

433
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:25,039
had counter eight times, two lots
of chemo going on. Yeah, well,

434
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,759
yeah, but it's just it's just
it's just one of those things that

435
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,079
I mean, we do hear about
these things. Oh this is going to

436
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:33,039
happen, and that's going to happen. It never does, does it?

437
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,319
At least I know, I do
agree with you about the drip feeding though.

438
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,920
We are being we are being drip
fed information and the files that are

439
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,200
to keep releasing. And if you
look, like I've said several times on

440
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,079
this show, with all the thousands
of pages of reports that they've released and

441
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,519
files and release, if you go
through a lot of those, you'll see

442
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:01,400
some real gems in there, but
unidentified objects that they could they don't know

443
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,039
what they were, and all sorts
of things like that. Well, the

444
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,759
thing is with that, with our
show, we've everything that we've spoken about,

445
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:15,400
like say, within the last five
years has happened. We're not we're

446
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,240
not. We're just do our research
that sort, you know, and everything

447
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,400
we said is going to happen,
and they're going to come out with and

448
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,319
this blah blah blah blah blah,
it's actually happened. And it all started

449
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:27,160
with the Italian government coming out and
saying, yeah, actually this happened.

450
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160
It shot one of our helicopters down. Look, here's the evidence, here's

451
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,799
what happened. And then from there
you had the Spanish government and then parts

452
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:37,119
of the eure at Germany refused to
England refused to because they were with with

453
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,400
the with the US, and then
South American. All the is a couple

454
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,559
of South American ones also, so
yeah, coffee, which world Paraguay,

455
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:52,200
there was a Guadalajara, there was
Brazil, lots from Brazil, and then

456
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:57,640
Lemur and few other and there's lots
coming in and out of volcanoes and mountains,

457
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,680
and all of a sudden, their
pictures started stopped going from being filmed

458
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:09,119
on a Nochia thirty three thirty or
something to good quality that you could see,

459
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,920
you could track, and this is
before AI and this is before the

460
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,839
really good computer graphics. So if
you if you go into researching that you

461
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:19,559
can trace it or you can see
when they started coming out. And then

462
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,000
obviously we said, well that the
other governments are going to start to go

463
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:24,400
and tow and admit it. And
then all of a sudden the US government

464
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,039
said that actually, yeah, we
might have been paid visits, we might

465
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:31,400
have spoken to them, that the
British government did. The French government came

466
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,400
out said yeah, it's because we
did, you know, And then then

467
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,240
everybody else started going yeah, yep, yep, there here, So yeah,

468
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,599
yeah, there was twenty twenty seven
will be interesting if we're still around.

469
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,240
But where things are going on this
planet, of course, well,

470
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:49,519
I don't think there will personally.
I don't think there'll be a nuclear war

471
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,559
because there's no winners in the nuclear
No. No, it's I think a

472
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:57,880
lot of it so are do with
skier mongering, the continuing skier mongering.

473
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,640
It's not that I've got bigger what's
it's a new you know, we've got

474
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,279
to be scared about something all the
time. Probably that's what they've been they

475
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:10,159
seem to be doing to me.
Anyway, we were talking about aliens,

476
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,159
extraterrestrial aliens, and you sort of
touched on it a bit earlier. You

477
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:22,159
must believe you like the dimensional aspects
of it as well, not interdimensional aliens,

478
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,960
well, dimensions, extra dimensions,
the multiverse. Everything has been proved

479
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,159
scientifically, there's the dimensions stay closer
us so less than a micron away,

480
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,960
But we can't physically touch it because
we don't have the science yet or the

481
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,159
equipment to do it. Who's to
say somebody on the other side of that

482
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:43,840
doorway doesn't, you know. So
a lot of these things, like if

483
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,760
you go back into legends like I'm
Irish, and when you go back into

484
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,039
legend that the kings of Ireland before
that they were descended from beings called the

485
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:53,719
twaft of the dNaM and the tweft
of the the Nan came through a doorway

486
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,400
on part of Ireland and then they
went out all over island. And then

487
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,599
when you look into all these little
legends about it, and especially did North

488
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:06,239
American Native Americans look at their legends, they coincide with all that sort of

489
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,960
stuff. And I do believe wholeheartedly
it's not just about our dimension here,

490
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:15,559
our planet, our universe with all
these other planets. It's about the multiverse

491
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:17,679
and or the onion theory. You
know, we're right in the middle of

492
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,239
it, and you got all these
other lays you know. So there's there's

493
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,880
obviously other teams that must suspect.
There's bad places, there's good places,

494
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:28,840
there's bad planets good planets. Like
everywhere you go, every every town you

495
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,599
go, there's good bits and bad
bits, the same as anywhere else.

496
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:35,480
You know, yeah, or if
there's any sort of lot of slum planets

497
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,119
that you could end on, you
know, well, I don't think it's

498
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:43,719
going to be We've already got we
had the Impulse engine that's now a reality,

499
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,360
and we're now getting the warp engine, which is now a reality,

500
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,559
So you know it's not gonna be
long. Yeah, No, it is

501
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,199
fascinating. And when you start talking
about dimensional stuff, then it takes you

502
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,760
into the world of ghosts and stuff
like that. I mean, do we

503
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:05,559
sometimes I think we've been seeing seeing
ghost fact, we could be seeing aliens

504
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:09,920
or that. Yeah, we've again, we've had that discussion. Yeah,

505
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,679
well, when you if you the
easiest way to think about it, our

506
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,480
body is just a vehicle for the
real lust, the soul, whatever you

507
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,119
want to call it, the real
us to interact with this particular plane,

508
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:24,559
this dimension. And once the body
has given up because failed its and Gonka

509
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:27,880
put, we have to come out, and then we have to go to

510
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,039
either where we originally came from,
or go on to somewhere else, or

511
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:38,559
start the start the recycling and come
back as somebody else business. But who's

512
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:44,119
to say that on other planets the
body is not different it's not carbon based,

513
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:46,000
it's not light based, it's not
you, and it could all be

514
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:51,119
very very different like that, like
these different dimensions. They may not need

515
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,159
the equipment to get through to us, because once you get beyond a certain

516
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:59,440
point of coming back better and better
and better and better and better, you

517
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,880
may just be able to crossover.
Who knows. And as you say yourself,

518
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:07,599
a lot of the paranormal sightings are
either residual you know, stone take

519
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,079
theory, playback, this that and
the other. But a lot of the

520
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:13,519
things that have been coming out,
like the shadow creatures and this, that

521
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,000
and the other. I do not
think a ghosts are demons. I think

522
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:23,880
they're possibly places where the doorways are
thin and they're trying to come across and

523
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,679
let us know they're they're I don't
think they're necessarily bad. But because it's

524
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,320
not quite there and the technology is
not there, we see these scary things

525
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,239
and people are reportting them. You
know, yeah, definitely, I know.

526
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,599
I mean, when you get into
the dimensional thing, what a lot

527
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:45,000
you've been saying there, Like you
said, the demon part of it comes

528
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:49,320
into it, and like you said, I agree with you that a lot

529
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,960
of those are probably just the other
it's a dimensional elemental beings such that you

530
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,119
can touch on. It's not when
you get into theories. And I mean,

531
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:04,199
I sup this was supposed to be
about theories, Dudley think. You

532
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,760
know, I can't believe in those. But I met somebody, what about

533
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,480
a year or so ago, who
was absolutely convincing about the fairies that she'd

534
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,760
experienced. You know, she's been
on the show or my show, all

535
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,519
this show, and it was absolutely
fascinating. And I actually do believe that

536
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:25,320
they exist there as elemental beings.
Well, my thing is and bearing me

537
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,559
on this one. For every single
legend, every single myth, there was

538
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,559
that spark, that original spark that
started that legend, that myth, and

539
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,719
then when you look back at it, they used to think it was Neanderthal

540
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,239
and man that was it. No, no, no, it's not.

541
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,559
And it's like fifty different types of
hormonin that came around. Then you've got

542
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:47,639
a homliflorensis the hobbit who were tiny, So why can't you have had these

543
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:52,320
tiny ones that existed? And that's
where the original myth came from. I'm

544
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,960
a firm believer in all the cryptozoology
things. There has to have been something

545
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,800
to start at dragons. You know, before the eighteen century, there wasn't

546
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,079
a word for dinosaur, you know, and every single dinosaur was called the

547
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:07,199
dragon. So again there had to
be something that started off in the first

548
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,280
place. Yeah, and we're talked
about small creatures. And also you've got

549
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,159
to take into consideration with the different
sizes of different planets. Some planets a

550
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,519
thousand times bigger than ours or even
you couln't even get one of a million

551
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:24,519
times bigger than ours, So that
would take it the consideration that the beings

552
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:29,079
on that planet could be a million
times bigger than we are. Yeah,

553
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,599
you know, yes, we don't
think we're you know, we're big and

554
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:35,000
this, that and the other.
But it's it's like they did it in

555
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,000
the Men in Black when they had
that that whole system in a marble.

556
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:42,079
Yeah, you know, so we
could be just a tiny, tiny speck

557
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,880
in the whole whole of everything,
you know. Yeah, well, I

558
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,920
mean when you basically on the head, when when you've got a desk it

559
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,840
front, you have a chair,
you've got well, you've got a universe

560
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,199
within the avenue, like atomic structures
to say that those are tomic structures,

561
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:05,079
they they've got the same up of
development as are there our planetry systems basically,

562
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,599
aren't they exactly. It's like the
myths, like I'm saying about dragons,

563
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:15,079
there's you're not. Megafauna is like
massive and massive creatures, massive flowers

564
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,679
everything. In Australia they had that. There was a type of dragon I

565
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,000
can't remember, type of lizzard.
I can't remember what it is. But

566
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,840
they were like eighteen to thirty feet
long, and they were they were in

567
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,960
the outback up until the mid eighteenth
century, and then they weren't seen again.

568
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,440
And then they started being seen again
in the seventies onwards, and they're

569
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,920
still being seen now, only way
way out back in the most remote places.

570
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:39,639
But these things are like huge from
when you're reading ports like you it's

571
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:45,280
not and that on steroids they're like
ten times a size of one of them.

572
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:50,679
So there you go. Massive.
Yeah yeah, hm hmm. Well,

573
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,800
I know you've got quite an interest
in in that type of thing.

574
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,639
Lot do you believe in lot big
fought and things like that. I mean,

575
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:02,159
have you had anyone on your show
that's the experienced bigfore We've we've had

576
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:08,440
quite a few, I've I've we've
had people before that I've interviewed, and

577
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,480
you know yourself, when you interview
people, you can see if somebody you

578
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,039
can normally tell somebody is trying to
pull a yarn or do it for a

579
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:20,280
couple. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. But I think I

580
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,400
think I've got one coming up soon, but I won't go into it.

581
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,199
I've had a couple that I've spoken
to and they're genuine, and I do

582
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,480
believe. Do you want to know
my own theory about why there? Right?

583
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,360
Do you remember when all the world's
continents were one Pangaea, h you

584
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,840
had Giganti, Pikason, and you
had a various other grade apes and now

585
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,440
these things went all over Pangaea,
so all over this one massive continent.

586
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,559
Then they started to break up,
with these things on each bit of this

587
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:58,320
this massive continent that's broken up into
the continents we know now. That would

588
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,000
explain why you've got everything from the
hairy men up in the mountains of Scotland

589
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:06,800
all the way over to the Skun
Cape. Then you've got the Batan Yeti,

590
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,960
You've got the Himalayan Yeti, and
then you've got the Yawei in Australia

591
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,440
as well, and not just that. But you've got the round pendicats reported

592
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,639
and everything, and that to me
that explains why they're all over and why

593
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:24,199
there's sightings everywhere. Yeah, it's
that big Foot. Why I don't understand

594
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:28,960
why it is that they could never
find one. All these search parties that

595
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:32,159
go out looking for them, but
they never seems to come across them,

596
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:39,519
do they its people? If they
are actually inter dimensional bees themselves, that's

597
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:43,239
one of the things. That's one
of the things they wonder if they are

598
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,599
over either from elsewhere and they've got
the yeah they going portals or something,

599
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:55,280
yeah, or if over the millennia
they developed their camouflage just such an extent

600
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:59,360
that they can just dump and fade
and completely vanish in front of it.

601
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Yes, funny you say that.
I did see there was one of the

602
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,760
videos that you saw the other day. Oh, you have the video of

603
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,000
things. It's the parallel court and
camera. I think it was one of

604
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,440
those as somebody was actually filming actually
didn't know it was a yet ye at

605
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,719
the time or no, not yet
big foot, and they actually saw it

606
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,760
sitting in the bushes, sitting in
like the tree area. Then he saw

607
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:27,039
it once they saw it once the
camera, you know, it's anyway.

608
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:31,199
It was very strange, but it
didn't actually look real. I do think

609
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:37,559
that for everything, you know,
all the all the the legends of everything.

610
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:42,320
I'm very open to stuff like that, and I'm like, well why

611
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,400
not? You know, so I
think some things are like nah, but

612
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,320
other other things yeah, why not? Yeah? I mean things are like

613
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,719
the Lockless Monster. I mean,
is it just one monster or is it

614
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,880
a family? You know? I
think that because there's you've got the lot

615
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,599
Less one, and then you've got
the one over in Norway, and when

616
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:05,239
the Lockness one is not seen,
the Norwegian one is when the Norwegian one's

617
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,559
not seen, the Lockness one is
seen, and all the tunnels go out

618
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,000
to see is it the spawning season? Do they go over to Norway and

619
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,599
they do their things there or they
come over here here? Yeah? I

620
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:20,639
mean, and that brings us into
something else here. Oh, those sorts

621
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:24,559
of things really paranormal, because really
what they are to me is like undiscovered

622
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:31,559
creatures rather rather than being paranormal.
I'll tell you what. One of the

623
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:34,960
things I saw. You know,
the Thila scene is supposed to be extinct.

624
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
It's not. I saw. I've
seen ring doorbell footage of some of

625
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:40,920
them, and I saw one of
the best pictures I've ever seen of one

626
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,159
that was taken off somebody's ring doorbell
about three days ago and it was his

627
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,440
flipping final the scene stood there looking
looking at it. And what people forget

628
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,440
in Australia is as an island just
off Australia. In the nineteenth century,

629
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,880
they did a bit, literally did
an arc. They took two of the

630
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,360
each creature put it on this island
because of the diversity that's there, and

631
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:04,199
they think that's somebody silent scenes and
somebody. The other stuff that was on

632
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:07,440
there have actually come across from that
island and got back onto mainland. Well,

633
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:13,639
so yeah, I do believe a
lot of cryptozoology. It's not paranormal

634
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:15,960
at all, but they have to. They had a class as paranormal until

635
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:20,559
we know exactly what it is.
Well. I mean also when you think

636
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,840
of it that way, I mean, aliens are not if aliens exist,

637
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,159
they're not parallel anyway. They no, they just come under the umbrella.

638
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,159
You know. I just come out
of that brother, because there's something that's

639
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:32,840
not known for everybody. As well
as what they called paranormal, really exactly.

640
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,320
I mean everybody says they're an expert
on this, that and the other.

641
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,119
In the paranorma, you're not because
it's not well known. We don't

642
00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:43,079
know what it is yet. There's
facally I mean, we're aliens sitting on

643
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,440
this pin if there's people are living
on another planets, so we're the aliens.

644
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:50,360
So it's like, you know,
they reckon that. There's there's other

645
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,920
creatures out there sat back at home
watching our stuff that's gone out into the

646
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,559
cosmos. So when this has gone
out into the cosmos, there's going to

647
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:59,239
be people on other planets watching us, going, do you know what they

648
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,559
really got it? Yeah, it's
it's actually quite strange it because there's there's

649
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:07,280
people are there maybe millions of years
more advanced than us. They could well

650
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:14,639
be watching us. There's a lot
of the same program, couldn't they What

651
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:16,639
are they going to get up to
next? I wonder? Yeah. Yeah,

652
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,960
it is the school of thought that
we are a zoo for other people.

653
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,639
Yeah, so in the in the
world of the paranorm we call it

654
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:31,000
all the paranormal. What what is
actually your very favorite thing? It's got

655
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:37,599
it's got to u. My nickname
is the alien guy, because yeah,

656
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:45,440
when we've just done it. Used
to way was doing it with me,

657
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,880
I didn't matter what you'd find.
I'd find a link to Aliens through whatever

658
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,199
we were talking about. And then
I've got as soon as I found that

659
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,719
link, I got millions and shout
it out and you see it? You

660
00:46:54,760 --> 00:47:01,159
know, do you actually would have
been any of the convinces that are around?

661
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:04,119
So I don't think I'll see you
any of the us I've been,

662
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:09,840
so I haven't. I haven't been
because quite frankly, it's been I went

663
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:15,079
for a bad patch with exes and
things like that, not a lot of

664
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:20,119
money and then everything. So I'm
starting to come back up. And as

665
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:23,280
the show started to get now,
you know, we did get ours occasionally

666
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,480
to go on these things, and
I'm more than willing to. I was.

667
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,840
I was asked if I'd like to
go to one, and I think

668
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,559
it's coming up in Manchester myself and
Wayne, so we're just waiting to hear

669
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:36,719
back about that. But yeah,
I love going on these things now and

670
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,480
I'd quite happily appear as a guest
or go and do a talk on whatever

671
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,880
on any of them. I love
doing them. Yeah, is it awake.

672
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:51,559
Yeah, one that's coming up in
Manchester. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

673
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:54,920
I don't think I'm glad on that
one this year because we're going to

674
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,920
America in Mace and I need all
the money I can get. Yeah.

675
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,559
Yeah, we're actually we're actually having
Rachel and I are having our first holiday

676
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:07,480
ever this year, so in April
we're going to Belgium. Yeah. Oh

677
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,880
congratulations. Well I think you've got
engaged, did you? Right on the

678
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,679
stroking Midnight New Years even I've got
down on one knee in front of everybody.

679
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:21,880
I remember seeing the Facebook posts and
it's very nice. Thank you.

680
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,360
So when's the big gonna be?
Is a couple of years? Well,

681
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:27,719
no, idea. We we We've
We've said in the next few years.

682
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,079
But we're it's one of one of
those things we've we've both been married.

683
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:35,760
Yeah, I love each other the
bit. She's the best thing's ever happened

684
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,920
to me. So we're just going
to take it easy. We are we

685
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,880
are getting married, and it'll be
all over Facebook and everything. But yeah,

686
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:44,800
it will be in the next next
week, next I'd say we're in

687
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,760
the next five years. Yeah.
I know where you're coming from, because

688
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,800
I'm going to say I'm on the
third wife now. It's just great.

689
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,599
I mean, we just get a
lot of household for her, and it's

690
00:48:54,639 --> 00:49:00,199
just great compared to what the aas
two. You know, we when you

691
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,119
meet that someone and you feel instantly
you know, you met this before,

692
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,159
if you know what I mean before? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

693
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,280
you know, we were like twin
flames or something like that. Yeah,

694
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,800
you feel like you've known her forever
type of thing, don't you. Yeah,

695
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,920
yeah, yeah, I'm sure there
must be some sort of a thing

696
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:23,280
like that, you know. And
I think people are brought together on purpose

697
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:29,440
as well. This thing is all
kind of plenned because in the way Well

698
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,719
and I met each other, it
seemed like, I don't know, it

699
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,639
seemed it seemed plenned. You know, everything fell into place to make us

700
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:40,920
meet, because otherwise that we weren't. We were onto a different planes,

701
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,880
so we wouldn't meet otherwise, you
know, and it just seemed it just

702
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:51,039
seems strange, you know. But
Rachel says, you meet people in your

703
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:53,000
life for one of two reasons,
to learn something from them or they learn

704
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:58,360
from you. And as I say, we when we've spoken about it so

705
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,920
many times, we are so alike
and so comfortable and just from from the

706
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:07,119
word go, it's we We wish
sure we knew each other in a formal

707
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:12,280
life or whatever. Do you feel
that you might have saved each other as

708
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,159
well? Because children, we kind
of feel as if we saved each other

709
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:22,800
because I got her out of a
position that she was in, and she

710
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,760
actually got me out of the position
I was in, So exactly, we

711
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,320
kind of saved each other. You
know. I think we were both on

712
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:36,400
we were both on that downward spiral
before that she was doing Rachel was doing

713
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,280
well. She she had some issues
and I was doing badly, and she

714
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,800
got me to sor she saved me. She sorted me out, putting me

715
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,760
on the right path everything and asking
for help and stuff. And then she's

716
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,199
she's going around and said, you
know what how I was before and how

717
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,079
I am now? You saved me. Yeah. Yeah, it's both to

718
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:55,360
each other, you know. Yeah, anyway we're going down there some sad

719
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:02,159
powerful but no, it's it's actually
through what you're saying. Where are ghost

720
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,920
hunts? Do you ever go on
ghost hunts? Yeah? Yeah, I

721
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,800
just recently did the first one with
the Dark Mirror team about four weeks ago.

722
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,000
Oh anything interesting happened? Oh god, y. Yeah, it's the

723
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:22,360
first one that's ever been done at
this place. It's the new in Thornton

724
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,000
Ladale in North Yorkshire. It's the
most picturesque country little village in the country

725
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,280
apparently. And yeah, we went
in there and we were finding out all

726
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,119
these sort of things and then it
all came out that somebody been hung in

727
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,599
this place where you're in. You
you could actually see with a rope that

728
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:40,280
gone over it beat really and you
can see we're at warm Yeah. Yeah,

729
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,639
and it was all coming out.
We were getting things on the SLS

730
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,000
camera and we we do check to
make sure it's not shadow and like affections

731
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:50,559
and stuff, kicking those off,
and it was somebody looking out in the

732
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,000
window and when we went outside and
taking photos it was only afterwards we looked

733
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,679
and you can see something looking back. So but yeah, it's again that's

734
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,719
up on the dark mirror's wall,
the first ever one. We did it

735
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,480
too. Parts we're going back again. I think it's June and we're going

736
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:07,199
to do the main bit of the
punt that was the old building, the

737
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,800
old servants quarters that we did and
that's where this story about everything that came

738
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:15,480
came about. But there's there's two
entities that go into the main building that

739
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:22,079
we picked up on, and also
the landlord and his missus have mentioned and

740
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:23,800
we're going to be investigating them next
time and see what that's all about.

741
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,320
Very nice, Well, if you
ever done this way, because I know

742
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,960
you you're very close to Wayne,
could yeah, we could go a thing

743
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:37,480
together, but I know where you
you're a bit too far north. You

744
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,400
think I'll be right yours if I
live, you'll be read your ass at

745
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:45,280
the time. I think now,
I absolutely love that you let us know

746
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,800
and I'll make sure i'm down there. Yeah, I mean we're going on.

747
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,920
We've arranged a couple of ghost homes
forself for this year. In June,

748
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,760
we go into the castle and I
don't know that as we were recording

749
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,400
this there tonight Waynes Wayne's sty doing
the investigation this tonight as we're recording this.

750
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,320
Obviously, when it goes in that's
they're all lucky to take all the

751
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,639
best places. But I've found that
up here in Yorkshire people are very guarded

752
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:13,800
about the places that they have.
They don't like sharing, they don't like

753
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,679
sharing with other people. And when
I try and get places, I get

754
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,440
looked at like I've just fell out
of a tree. It took a lot

755
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,880
to get this place. So yeah, but if you had to do one

756
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:23,840
waiting myself to come on, please
let us know because I'll make sure on

757
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,440
that. Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely would like to do that.

758
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:29,360
I mean, I'm going to have
Wayne on the show in a few

759
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,199
weeks anyway, no doubt we'll be
talking about you. But baby, we

760
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:40,280
can't come. Yeah. I like
Wayne. It's a good look. That's

761
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,960
the bad times as well. I
know he's told me about. But I

762
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,880
don't know what it is in the
paranormal world. We seem to I know

763
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,000
a lot of people that have had
bad times personally, and I think in

764
00:53:53,079 --> 00:54:00,119
some ways the paranormal kind of save
them a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

765
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:02,639
I don't know if you agree with
me, and that is that something.

766
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:07,039
I know several people who have had
really bad times. You know.

767
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:12,559
I think it gives you a lot
more insight into what things could be,

768
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,840
what could be there, what outcomes
could possibly be. And I think it

769
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,920
does help if you've had well a
bit of crap in your life, if

770
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,239
you've sat back and been at such
a low ebb that you can't see any

771
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,480
ways out. I mean, I
don't mind admitting I have in the past.

772
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,159
And when you go on these things
and you find out the stories of

773
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:35,079
what's happened in this and you realize
the people way way worse off than you've

774
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:37,199
been, oh yeah, and it
just gives you that bit of insight,

775
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:43,960
you know, like I see it
as you get a carnival whitening. I

776
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:50,480
don't know else to describe it.
I went from reading books to seeing stuff

777
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,599
too, and then going through a
very bad patch of my life, and

778
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:55,239
then when I went on my first
one, I was like, Wow,

779
00:54:55,519 --> 00:55:00,800
and you do you see things in
a totally new pair of glass? Yeah,

780
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,119
you do. I agree, And
talk about the paran all war is

781
00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:09,480
there's been some things going on late
with a particular person we were, but

782
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:13,840
I don't really know what it's all
about, do you. I mean,

783
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,159
what is wrong with this This person
who seems to think that he's better than

784
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:22,920
everybody else, uh, and he
thinks that everyone else is rubbish used to

785
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,960
be a paranormal investigator. He used
to do lots of it, and then

786
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,519
started appearing on a very very minor
TV show that you can't even get on

787
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:38,280
mainstream TV with a certain person who
is known for being bigoted, big headed

788
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:43,079
and all that sort of things.
And then, for some god knows what

789
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,599
reason, this person decided that they
were then going to act or like this

790
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:52,159
person who show they were on,
because they had no idea why, and

791
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:55,760
they decided to act like that.
And then they started belittling and poo pooing

792
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,880
everybody in the paranormal world and trying
to act like this person. And long,

793
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,559
long story short, we were we
did talk, we were friends.

794
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,440
And then I stood up to and
said, look, mate, come on,

795
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:08,639
what are you doing. This is
when he did it the first time.

796
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:14,599
And then he just started being so
rude and nasty and talking down to

797
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:19,599
everybody. And He's right, everybody
else is wrong. It's narcissism in its

798
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,079
purest form, you know. And
then basically they shot their career to pieces

799
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:29,519
because of it, lost so many
people. And then they went quiet,

800
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:31,639
and we all just said, right, okay, if you stop it.

801
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,480
And then then they started to blame
their mental health for this that, and

802
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:37,199
I know, don't do that.
You've been called out. We all know

803
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,760
what you did, we've all seen
it, we've all read it. Stop

804
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:44,000
hold youand up, yeah, I
own that was my fault. I'm really

805
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
sorry, and that would have been
the end of it. And then bugging

806
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:50,519
me, it started again, but
worse than it was before. And he's

807
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:54,360
literally a playground bully and he's got
so nasty with everyone. Well, it's

808
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:00,159
just basically it's just aliened everybody who
is in the field. Basically, I

809
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:04,960
mean even anyone not who's not been
involved in any sort of arguments has really

810
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,719
said, oh, well, I
can see what's going on. I'll block

811
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,599
this bloke. We don't know.
I'm not interested. And I will say

812
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:15,000
that he was on my show,
this particular person a couple of years ago.

813
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:20,679
I won't really give an opinion about
it because it's not fair, but

814
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,679
it did come over as a little
bit as a as a supremo, if

815
00:57:24,679 --> 00:57:31,280
you like. But it's unfortunate because
I don't really want to name the person

816
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,400
because he's not fair, because he's
not here to defend himself. But we

817
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:39,920
think the person is that he was
given a chance to defend himself twice now

818
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,800
on a show and he's literally just
slated everybody anything that's been put to him.

819
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,320
And we've we've got all evidence screenshots
on this, that and the other,

820
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,679
and he's like, no, no, that never happened, didn't happen.

821
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:53,000
You're all just out to get me. I know what I'm talking about.

822
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:55,880
You a lot of idiots and it's
the same stuff, just stuck and

823
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,360
repeat. So yeah, I see. I just don't understand it at all,

824
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:02,920
just that it just doesn't make sense
to me. You know, I

825
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,000
have no genuinely have no idea.
I've never met. I mean, we've

826
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,599
done a show about people with egos
in the paranormal and we all know it

827
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:15,559
happens, and like it would be
nice if par unity was a real thing.

828
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:19,280
But you do get like my team's
better than your team. This my

829
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,880
show is better than you, and
it's it's nonsense. I do all this

830
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,960
stuff because I just love doing it. Don't do it for watching your money.

831
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:29,920
This person does, and I've never
ever met at He makes Zach Baggins

832
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,480
look like a good guy. I've
got no opinion about exact Beggins. I

833
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,840
don't actually mind you, to be
honest, but I guess some people have

834
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,440
got a bigger ego. But I've
got to say most of the people I

835
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,119
have met have been a paranoal Wolf
in the UFO. Really lovely people.

836
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:51,800
There's been your there's been your one
or two. You would step be in

837
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,280
the beg for a penny, you
know. And I've met those, I've

838
00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:00,400
experienced them, and they sort of
use you for what they could get out

839
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:06,360
of you. Yeah, you know, when they know you've got a lot

840
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,360
of people that sort of you know
quite a few, but they don't know.

841
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,400
They want to get in with you
so they can get to them.

842
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,119
You know. I've had that experience
quite a few times, and it's not

843
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:20,159
really nice when you find out what
they've been able to. It's it's not

844
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:22,599
And then when you when you have
like I mean, I've had it myself

845
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:29,119
with certain friends who ditched everybody like
hotcakes because they thought that their career was

846
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:31,440
going and then it's gone faulted.
And then because the show's taken off,

847
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:37,719
I suddenly get people, oh,
hello, do you remember me? It's

848
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,079
like you won the lottery, And
it was all the sort of the old

849
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:45,679
come back out of the wood book. I mean, I don't hate anybody,

850
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:50,320
even this person who's doing this this
problem. I don't hate them a

851
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,320
problem. Yeah, they just become
someone that you're not interested in you spare

852
00:59:54,360 --> 01:00:00,599
the time to argue with them the
time of day, and that's that's what

853
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:04,400
That's what it boils down to.
Basically, I've sort of blocked him my

854
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,920
Facebook not interested. Unfortunately, has
become a stranger. Don't know which is

855
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,920
which is unfortunate for him really because
he cut he cut himself off from everyone

856
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:21,239
that's in the Basically, as as
we've all said, it's a self inflicted

857
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,519
wound. He's done it to himself
and no one else has done it to

858
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:27,079
him, no matter what he says, he did it all to himself.

859
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:35,800
So what shows have you got coming
up with anything interesting? I've got Kerry

860
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,239
Greenaway on next week. Carry used
to do the show with me and we

861
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:43,840
will be friends for years. And
to be fair, Kerry green Away,

862
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:51,320
I believe lives on Canby Canby All
we're a few times of different things,

863
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,760
but there's been many a time we've
been around their place and the parties happen

864
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,840
and the drinks have come out and
anything like. Absolutely, but no,

865
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,639
so many investigations together and as I
say, we used to do the show

866
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:09,519
for years. Really nice person on
the show. I want to get a

867
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:15,159
few people on in in the coming
months. We've got a new presenter who

868
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:22,480
joins us from America every week now, Josh Josh. What the hell is

869
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:30,199
his name? Josh? Yeah,
and he's like our guy across the pond,

870
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:35,760
talks about UFOs and stuff. And
yeah, there's just so many people

871
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,400
that are on my face, but
I mean so interesting, and I talked

872
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,559
to you and I'm like, I
want them on the show, but me

873
01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:46,280
from remembering names not forget it.
It's funny, you know, you told

874
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,599
these people we all of a sudden
you think of somebody, You think,

875
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,360
what's just saying because you don't really
use the second name. Do you call

876
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,880
them Jim or John or Dave or
work? And do you think, of

877
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,639
course, what was his second name? So I just looking at the dog

878
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:04,239
behies in Cambra, looking at it. We're gonna see what's going on.

879
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:10,639
But yeah, now there's quite a
few people I want to have on this

880
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:15,159
year, but I've just got to
send them messages and say, come on.

881
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,280
There's some things around here as well
that happened in Yorkshire that you've got

882
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,159
to think called the worlds trying.
I know there's quite a few places.

883
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:27,760
Actually I want to go to York. I've never been to York and Shambles.

884
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,119
Yeah, I really want to visit
up that way. I mean,

885
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,039
I know I've been to Yorkshire.
I've been to things like the home Firth

886
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:36,760
and the few other places, but
I really need to go out here for

887
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,920
a couple of days Yorks somewhere like
that, and I look around you.

888
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:45,480
We'll come to meet you. Absolutely, Yeah, we'll do that because I

889
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:47,840
mean, now the summer's coming.
I'll do intensive sort of a few days

890
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,199
up that way. Yeah, I'll
take you before we sort of wind up.

891
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:58,440
When you go on your investigations your
parents, what's all equipment you use?

892
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,840
Always interest me to watch because I
lightly equipment. You know, it's

893
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:08,559
meters and stuff. When I first
started, you name it, I had

894
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:10,800
it, and I used to take
it. And then I watch things run

895
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,280
out of batteries and get broken and
this, that and the other. Me

896
01:03:14,519 --> 01:03:19,440
personally, now when I do investigations
that I use, you're going to think

897
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,199
I'm cracked. Both my daughters are
gifted, and I've I've always had the

898
01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:25,599
ability of when I walk into place, I can sense it as something there

899
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:29,960
and can't tell if it's male or
female. All I can tell you is

900
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:31,360
if it's good or bad, and
that that's as far as I go.

901
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:37,920
But I use that and I like
to use either a K two meter or

902
01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:42,920
an app on my phone. There's
one app on my phone that I use

903
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,639
that I absolutely love, and I've
tried and tested lots and lots of different

904
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:52,079
apps, and I find that it's
it's the best one and it is Partech,

905
01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:59,559
that's what. But that's about it. And like with Wayne, I

906
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:02,639
want use weediboards. I'll do one
with somebody, but I have them in

907
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:10,440
the house or anything for reasons.
But Wayne uses the dowsing rods. And

908
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,599
when we did that investigation up here
in Yorkshire, I had the camera and

909
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:15,880
the light on him, just because
I'm very skeptical about hands maybe, and

910
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,760
his hands were perfectly still, and
these things little till, don't you.

911
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:25,400
Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
But these things were answering to intelligent conversations,

912
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,639
intelligent questions. So that made me
go. So it's like I used

913
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:35,880
to use a pendant, but I've
noticed now dependulum. I've noticed now slightest

914
01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:40,719
when your pulse goes, and it
makes your hand do that imperceptibly, it

915
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:43,599
makes it move. So I don't
use that when you're actually holding your hand

916
01:04:43,679 --> 01:04:47,239
up for a while, you're you
know, you're not moving, You've got

917
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:54,159
a little bit of a tremble going
on. And I'll actually use the proximity

918
01:04:54,159 --> 01:05:01,719
center as well, SLS and victrum. Yeah, what about a rampod.

919
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:08,199
I'll usually likely seeing the results of
those on the on these ghost shows because

920
01:05:08,519 --> 01:05:14,079
obviously to get to a remport you
if you're way away from it. I've

921
01:05:14,119 --> 01:05:17,960
got one that was made for us
by one of our show's hosts, Eric.

922
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:20,440
He made one in America and he
sent it over and it's a skull

923
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:26,079
and it works, but it is
brilliant pretty well, so I use that.

924
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,000
Yeah. Well, what I've said
on a couple of investigations and it

925
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:34,400
really blew my mind, was that
the torches going on and off, yeah,

926
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:42,000
Meg worked. Yeah, I'm always
skeptical about that because I have I

927
01:05:42,039 --> 01:05:45,400
won't say names or anything, but
I have been investigations where I've seen people

928
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,079
making it up and I've seen torches
which have got a dodgy switch and they

929
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:53,320
can be set to do it and
stuff. So I'm very well answering to

930
01:05:53,440 --> 01:06:00,679
yes and nose and as well,
I don't I've never used to talk myself,

931
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,159
but as I say, I'm so
because of some of the things I've

932
01:06:06,159 --> 01:06:11,239
been on. I'm skeptical about it
because I've seen them being used. But

933
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,159
it's I'm like that about them.
I know what you mean. I mean,

934
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:18,039
I think you've got to go in
as a skeptic on all these things.

935
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:21,760
Anyway. You can't just think that
everything that happens is you know,

936
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:26,599
like a coast or wherever it is. You've got to take in consideration crinky

937
01:06:26,719 --> 01:06:31,280
doors and crikey floorballs and drafts and
everything else like that, especially in old

938
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,360
buildings. Yeah, I think the
thing is is when you do an investigation,

939
01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:39,119
and you'll know yourself when you see
it on the TV programs. Every

940
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:42,320
single time they do investigation, something
happens. But when you do it yourself,

941
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:45,079
normally the only thing your catch is
a cold. But it's still right

942
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:50,760
yard Well, I mean obviously,
I mean we've said, I mean,

943
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,719
when you see these shows on the
TV, they could be there for several

944
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,559
or eight hours and you're seeing something
or cut down to within twenty minutes or

945
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:02,559
something, so it's not everything.
It's all kicking off in all that time.

946
01:07:03,079 --> 01:07:06,639
So when they'll probably get as bored
as the amount of times I've got

947
01:07:06,639 --> 01:07:10,239
on things. I think by sort
of like one o'clock in the morning,

948
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:13,440
you think, oh, so I'm
so bored and cold. I was just

949
01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:15,960
I was just want to go home, and then all of a sudden something

950
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,840
happened and you think that was interesting. And it's always after midnight. I

951
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,440
always find the place. If you
start too early, you're just like I

952
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:27,480
want to go home. And then
normally about one o'clock in the morning,

953
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,559
that past midnight and one o'clock everyone
just starts sitting around, have a cup

954
01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:38,079
of coffee. Don't cheat. That's
the worst one anyway. Well, I

955
01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:41,440
guess it's uh, we'll call it
a day, and it's been great.

956
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:46,039
Ave you on no as I say, when if you if you have come

957
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:50,119
down this way, give us a
shout and we'll talk something. Well yeah,

958
01:07:50,119 --> 01:07:53,159
oh yeah, we'll give us a
shot with everything. You're coming down

959
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:55,639
person, If you're going to rendleship
or something, I'll go with you.

960
01:07:56,199 --> 01:08:00,599
But at some point this year as
well, in the summertime, all right,

961
01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:03,280
we'll But if ever you're then well, way, please, you know,

962
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:09,239
come around for coffee or dinner or
whatever. But you know you always

963
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,800
send you me a dresk if you're
coming up to York so anyway. Yeah,

964
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,880
yeah, well i'd like to come
out that way. I'm definitely want

965
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,960
to come to York anyway, So
we'll give you a shout on that.

966
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:23,439
We're Inborough. We're there, we're
near the beach and there's a thing here

967
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,319
right there's a lookout point right at
the top and I always forget the bloody

968
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:31,640
name, but it's what they did
in the motor cycle racing. It's a

969
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:38,359
UFO hotspot and there's been corroborated sightings
on this particular point. Yeah, so

970
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,159
I'll show you it. Yeah,
they'd love to anyway. Yeah, thanks

971
01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:44,840
for coming on, Mart, it's
been great talking to you, and we'll

972
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,439
do it again at some point.
Yes, please, i'd like to again.

973
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,800
You have to come on as again. Yeah, I'd love to just

974
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:55,279
goss a shout wherever you want to
if if I've got anything more interested to

975
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:59,000
say what they're doing a few I
suppose I can tell you what we've been

976
01:08:59,039 --> 01:09:02,840
doing lately after the a couple of
investigations we're going on. So what I'm

977
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:08,199
hoping something will happen. I'll tell
you what you get somebody your stuff done

978
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:10,640
and remind me and a couple of
months, we'll get you back on.

979
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,960
You can talk about what you've been
up to. Yeah, okay, but

980
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:16,720
then you've got to deal. I
let you go. Thanks for coming on,

981
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:23,000
and take care of yourself, right, cheers, right, see you

982
01:09:23,039 --> 01:09:26,920
later. Yeah, cheers both cheers. Papa, Thank you, Mark,

983
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,640
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984
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,319
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985
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value and exclusivity. By acquiring the
Pasca Gooler alien figurines, you are not

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only adding an extraordinary piece to your
collection, but also becoming a custodian of

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a significant event in euthology. This
is an opportunity to own the start of

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history and contribute to the preservation and
remembrance of the pasta Coula abduction case.

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Don't miss this chance to delve into
the mysterious realms of your apology and commemorate

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one of its divining moments. Secure
your pasta cooler alien figuring today, and

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embrace the captivating world of extraterrestrial encounters. Jason Cleaves you friendly, So there

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you go. Okay, now I'm
spoiling you rotten next week I've got another

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extra show for you and my special
guest is Ron Yakobetti no less. As

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many will know, Ron has been
experimenting with a new way of communicating with

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the other side, whatever that is. He and his team have developed a

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new way of communicating with white noise. So that's going to be completely fascinating.

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So that will be Ron Yakobetti on
March twenty fifth, Monday, and

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that's an extra show and it's going
to be epic, so don't miss that

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one. So until that show,
I've got an exciting week. I'm going

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to see David Dyke during this week, along with Michael Feeley and a few

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others. In the meantime, if
you like to get in touch with me

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of course, as always, my
email address is David Young to q in

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at your who dot co dot uk. That's David Young two q in at

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your who dot co dot uk.
So don't forget next show March twenty fifth

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with Ron Yakovetty. That is going
to be amazing. So take care of

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yourselves everyone, and I'll speak to
you next time. I'm David Young,

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Bye boy. Unidentified flying objects,
commonly known as flying sauces, do exist.

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Some kind of flying objects have been
photographed in the sky. If they

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cannot be identified as objects known to
man? What if they are not man

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made? Who made them? If
they are not from this planet, where

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are they from. Parorable Dimensions is
as bright and powerful as our celestial starves

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up and although it's expending thousands of
pounds of energy every minute of the day,

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have no fear. There's plenty left. Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays

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on the Paranormal UK Radio Network.