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Utah and Scott. Thank you so
much for joining us tonight. How are

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you doing good? How are you
doing good? Thank you for having Yeah,

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thank you for joining us. And
we were having a great conversation before

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the podcast. I'm like, well, we better hit the record button before

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we were a lot of things to
talk about. We've talked about so much

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already, but it's great to have
you on. And before we get into

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the conversation, please go ahead and
introduce yourself to the audience. So,

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yeah, my name's Scott. I'm
currently in Utah. I'm not of flat

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earther and I think I explained that
in the in the email I sent you,

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and then I'm also not religious,
but I have been heavy into conspiracies

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since nine to eleven happened. And
I mean, I've just sort of seen

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how everybody has kind of turned away
from you know, the left wing used

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to be the people who were the
nine to eleven people, and now the

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world is just sort of turned upside
down. It's getting pretty crazy, I'll

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tell you, man, it's insane
to see how the world has I like

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to use the term phone off a
cliff in the last twenty I guess this

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coming week is going to be twenty
two years since this event happened, and

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you know, as we're just a
few days away from nine to eleven as

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we record this, we're recording on
September the fifth. It is incredible the

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conversation I've been having with people,
you know, how we kind of reminisce

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about the silliness of COVID, the
masks, Like you would have to wear

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your mask to the table, you'd
sit down, you take your mask off,

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but if you want to go to
the bathroom, you have to put

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your mask back on. Do you
remember all the ridiculousness of COVID, Right,

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Yeah, no, it's and you
know, for a lot of those

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people, they didn't have to work, right, I have two jobs.

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I'm eight to ten hours a day, six days a week. Like there's

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a difference between wearing your mask for
four hours twice twice a week than being

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somebody who works out in the street. So like, I don't, I

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don't, I don't know. They're
they're talking about bringing that back. I'm

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hoping they're not going to. Well, it certainly looks like they're starting the

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propaganda because now the president's wife has
it and they're already starting with the famous

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people who did I see today on
social media whoopee Goldberg has it and they've

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declared COVID is back. Right,
it was just the flu in the cold

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for the last one hundred years.
Now it's god, it's they have an

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actual war, and that's you know
interesting. There was the war on poverty,

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war on drugs, the war on
terrorism. And what they do is

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they take these terms. They don't
define the enemy. Because if you don't

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define the enemy, you have a
checkbook and you can just continue to write

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checks until they declare victory. Right. They don't give us this is what

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we want to accomplish. They just
say war on terror and boom the military

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industrial complex. It gets rich for
as long as they want to, right,

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Yeah, And it's it's weird how
many people go along with it.

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So I had a pretty, uh, pretty weird COVID story. Like from

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the beginning, I was a huge
Alex Jones fan. During the recession,

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I lost my house, went into
property management, was just taking whatever job

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I possibly could. So when COVID
hit, I was I was one hundred

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percent all in, Like the first
week it hit and I went to the

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store and stalked up right when they
closed the schools down. This was way

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before anybody else was wearing masks.
I was double latex gloved, longsleeve shirt,

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fully face covered, like I took
my clothes off in the garage when

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I got back. And then,
you know, at that time, we

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were in Florida and we were working
for a U haul, like a big,

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big U haul with office spaces,
storage boxes, the whole nine yards.

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And we had some people who came
in from New York and I asked

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them, Hey, what's going on
with the freezer trucks full of bodies?

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And those people essentially told me that, yeah, that's not happening. And

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I was still a little paranoid.
But then the same thing was happening in

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Detroit. So when those people came
they you know, moving to Florida,

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I asked them the same question and
they said the same thing. Nothing was

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happening. So then my wife's mom
got cancer and we moved back to Utah

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so we could be with her,
and you know, drove through the whole

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country. Texas was actually shut down
at that time. We had to avoid

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Texas when we drove back because they
weren't allowing people to cross through. We

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knew some yeah, we knew.
One of our customers was a nurse who

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went to Texas and we had called
them like right before the day that we

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were ready to move, and they
told us, yeah, you got to

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kind of avoid that area. But
then when we got to Utah, I

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got my old job back because we'd
lived there before, and I essentially assembled

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things for all the big box stores. So all the bikes, furniture,

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barbecue grills, patio furniture, Christmas
trees, whatever the box stores need assembled,

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I assemble. And then you know
that well, I mean from that

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first year until now. We moved
right during the height twenty twenty. I

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think it was June or July when
we moved. But when I got here,

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I was assembling stuff from Payson all
the way up to Ogden, which

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is about sixty seventy miles. So
they're at least forty to fifty different huge

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box stores on you know, from
one end to the other. And where

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do you go to get your medicine
when you're sick. Yeah, you're going

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to go to like the Walgreens or
Walmart or something like that. And not

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one of them got shut down.
You've heard about all of these, you

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know, they had to shut this
school down, this company down. Not

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one Walmart got shut down, not
one Smith's got shut down, not one

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home depot or Lows and that,
you know, two months of that,

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and I was, I mean that
that was like the one I'm not even

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afraid of this anymore. Yeah,
it's amazing how how smart COVID was.

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It was able to avoid Walmart's and
Amazon, but all the Mama Pops and

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the churches and this schools, it
was just haveing for it. So they

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had to shut all those down.
Yeah. People, you know, people

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didn't see that, even the people
that a lot of the people that work

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at Walmarts and these places, you
know, some of them do. But

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for the most part, I had
managers yelling at me to put my mask

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back on when they had closed the
tire and lube sections down at all the

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Walmarts, and that's where they stuck
me out there to build everything for myself.

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And yeah, i'd have some managers
that would, you know, scream

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at me to put my mask on. Gosh, in a closed room by

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myself. And I don't understand how
people fall for to be honest with you,

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Yeah, there was nothing like driving
down the road and seeing a car

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by, you know, a guy
in his car by himself with a mask

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on. Just yeah, oh my. You know, we've we've had some

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people at these stores that are still
wearing the asks. And the one thing

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I will say is I've noticed that
a lot of them are younger. I

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noticed that too. I told that
to my friend just the other day when

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we went to Sam's Club, Like
under thirty, we're wearing masks the old

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None of the older folks cared.
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of the younger kids, I think
it might be just like, you know,

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I'm not putting on makeup, or
I'm hiding acne, or you know,

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I used to wear my mask when
I had to plow snow outside.

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I will I did voluntarily wear my
mask. I kept my face one sure.

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But I think some of these people
it's just like a flag, you

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know, to signify which side they're
on. And some of them it's just

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like a laziness factor, maybe bad
breath, acne. I don't know.

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I'm worried about I think if they
bring it back as a singular attack,

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I don't think most people will fall
for it. I'm kind of worried they're

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going to do either bring it back
with more pressure. Is you know,

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it's interesting that you'd mentioned that,
was it two thousand and eight, two

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thousand and nine, when the economy
kind of bottomed out. If I don't

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know how people don't understand what's coming. I can't tell you that it's coming

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in the next six weeks or the
next six months. But we're going to

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have a financial collapse of epic proportions, and I think they're either going to

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use that or a hot we're with
Russia to bring in cbdc's, you know,

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the digital coins, digital dollar.
And then the other thing is if

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it does go hot with the Russia, when you enter, if you're drafted,

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if you're conscripted, you're getting the
vaccine. So I think they're they're

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still on board with this because their
most important thing is that very first rule

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on the Georgia guidestones, and they're
they're all eugenics. Eugenists, however it's

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pronounced yeah, I don't. I
mean I have kids that are coming of

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age for the draft, and that
scared the heck out of me. I

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mean, you know, I grew
up turned eighteen and two thousand and three

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or two thousand and four and we
were worried about the war in Afghanistan in

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Iraq, but like this is looking
way worse than I mean, how many

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troops are still in Ukraine right now. We have a lot of troops in

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Ukraine. We still have I think
two at least one brigade in Iraq,

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and it was That's what I just
can't stand, is, you know,

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they have these big events. We've
we've left Iraq and was supposed to be

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two thousand and twelve, and we've
always had troops there. We continue to

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we still have them. We have
special ops. We have psyops in Ukraine

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that are overseeing the drones and they're
assisting with the Patriot those guys. You

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can't just hand a patriot missile battery
to people who have been just conscripted into

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the military for two months and think
that they're going to be able. And

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these Patriot mistile batteries you're talking if
you've ever seen the size of the radars

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and everything that goes into it.
There's contractors, there's special ops, there's

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you know, advisors. We have
so many boots on the ground it's insane.

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And there's still people who think it's
just the official narrative. It's just

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a joke. Yeah, I've heard. I don't know if you listen to

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the No Agenda Show at all,
but I mean that's kind of where,

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you know, I actually listened to
the right and the left. So I've

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got my Ben Shapiro's and Matt Walsh's
and then my Crystal and Saugers Decoy voice,

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you know, both sides. But
I I like the No Agenda Show

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kind of breaks down the news and
they I mean, that's Adam Curry,

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the first ever, first ever podcast
and he uh, you know, they

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got all the boots on the ground
and they're saying National Guard is over there

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right now. So I mean,
I don't know what to believe in that.

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You know, Adam Curry was MTV
news back in the day. It's

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hard to tell who you can trust, right But yeah, I try to

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get from a bunch of different sources, and that's figure out what's going on.

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Yeah, that's the best way to
do it. Even Bill Cooper said,

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listen to everyone and discern for yourself. You know, what is true

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and what is not. What makes
sense to you the most. Now,

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going back to you'd mentioned that you've
been in nine to eleven Truther since two

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thousand and three, which is pretty
impressive because you know, you're talking a

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year and a half. It was
there a certain you know, I don't

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remember the name of the documentary,
but it was, you know, we

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got our hands on that VHS tape
that everybody else did. And then I

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mean, I don't remember if it
was Chaney or Rumsfeld that came out the

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night before and said, we have
seemed to have mislocated two point seven trillion

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dollars. Yeah, that was the
Pentagon. Yeah. And then the next

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day that part of the Pentagon blew
up. That was a little suspicious to

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me. I just put a coin
in the coincidence jar for you. Yeah,

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that was Rumsfeld the day before.
He came out, we just can't

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find two point three trillion dollars.
And then the young lady, she was

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a specialist in the army. She
worked in the accounting firm, and she

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was there in the area where the
missile hit, and she said, no,

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no smell of fuel, no no
luggage, no seats, anything,

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And she literally walked out of the
whole to go outside and just yeah,

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next thing over there. She she
sees on the news that night it was

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a plane and she's like, really, you don't say. And that video

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was on YouTube, but once again, like many of the other videos that

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are out there, it's extremely hard
to find. Yeah, yeah, no,

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I mean I we talked a little
off parrots. You know, they're

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even kind of rubbing and the birds
aren't real thing. It's kind of crazy

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you can get out there with conspiracy
theories and for whatever reason YouTube, I

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mean, I told you off air
like they had blocked my channel for pretty

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like minor things, but for some
reason, you know, bigger channels like

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Joe Rogan and Russell Brand and you
know, I don't know if they're just

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too famous to take off the air
without throwing up too many red flags.

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But I don't. I don't know
if you've ever read that book Party and

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Laurel Canyon or whatever. But oh
yeah, Dave McGowan, Yeah, it

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goes over how the the hippie the
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type shows and you know, Daily
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controlled opposition. I don't, I
don't know, what do you you know,

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you can't prove any of this,
but yeah, you gotta go with

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your gun. And I can't recommend
that book enough. I actually have two

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Dave McGowan interviews on the radio player
that's on the website right now, and

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that was a terrible loss because that
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When you found out that like every
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the Mamas and the Papas, the
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all these people came from the same
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the same neighborhood and all of their
parents, all of them were military

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intelligence. What do you get when
you tell people that, because I get

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a lot of like, I don't
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know, yeah, I get it's
funny. I get a very like a

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flash of interest, like that's unique, that's cool, Like when people see

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a rainbow, Hey, that's neat
school, and then it's onto the next

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thing. People don't understand that there's
layers to these things, and for me,

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it was that nugget right that these
people that there was nothing organic about

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the sixties. And then you know, you turn you find out that Jim

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Morrison's father was responsible for the golf
of Tonkin incident which led to the death

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of fifty eight thousand, you know, men and women and the number.

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of the Police, right, that
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it turns out that the Stewart Copeland's
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the OSS. So you know,
these people are all put in place.

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There's nothing organic, and you know, it kind of trips you out because

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you realize that, you know,
the whole thing, if I work hard

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enough and do this, do that, I can be put in positions of

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success. And I'm not saying you
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but you know, the fact that
you could be president or to be

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the top in the music industry.
It's just you really learn that this is

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all really just a giant stage with
actors that are selected. Well, I

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don't know, like this is another
nail in the coffin with the whole hippie

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movement. I don't know how much
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but it was started by Jamaican rude
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lower class white factory workers, and
it had absolutely nothing to do with the

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race. They wore boots and shave
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and then flash forward to mid seventies, late seventies, all of a

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sudden, they put a whole bunch
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sort of, you know, change
the whole dynamic of that. And that's

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like, that's something I knew about
before I was even into conspiracy really like,

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yeah, no, I mean there
are plenty of documentaries. I don't

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have any off the top of my
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that's why they listened to reggae.
That's how SKA came about. It

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was Jamaican rude boys and the working
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over here to America and then they
you know, destroyed that within five or

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ten years, and and makes perfect
sense when you think about, you know,

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these people go directly up against what
we created. Yeah, so I'm

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sorry, go ahead it, I
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it just might be an interesting topic
for you to kind of research on your

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own. Yeah, that that that's
very interesting because I do kind of remember

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the late seventies movement in in London
because even then I liked music in the

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late seventies and the clash started to
become a big thing in the late seventies,

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and they had that, you know, the black boots, the black

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jackets, and they were either completely
shaved or they had mohawks, and that

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was more of like a middle finger
two the government movement that I recalled,

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and then it would not surprise me, Like you said, it makes its

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way over to the United States,
and what do you reckon that the FBI

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or the CIA infiltrates it and they
start pushing the neo Nazi movement or do

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you think there was just some What
are your thoughts on that? Well,

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I see, I'm not not very
good with the names. I know.

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I think it was a dude out
of Kentucky, but he was a klansman

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and that's basically where the first neo
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yeah, I mean if you listen
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music like Ski the Rex or whatever, I mean that most of them are

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black hoots and the matels like it
was, it was a totally different thing

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and there are still sins out there
who are traditional skins. And then they

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have the sharp skinhead movement, which
is skinheads against racial prejudiced and then you

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know, skinheads will call Nazi skins
bone heads, and I mean this is

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dated back since the eighties, but
mainstream view on this is, you know,

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these are all a bunch of racist
people, even though like the biggest,

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the biggest skinhead movements right now are
in Brazil and Tokyo. So really,

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I don't know how racist you can
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of using some of them go ahead, they did naturally kind of like,

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uh, you know, the the
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go against the past Pakistanis that were
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immigration thing, taking the work and
thropping wages and stuff. But it wasn't

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it wasn't like a racial thing that
they would paint the picture of. What

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was There a certain conspiracy that you've
seen over the last twenty years that you

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kind of took personally and that you've
spent more time on than any other particular

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one. I I don't know,
like the moon landing one for sure,

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but the COVID like, yeah,
that's that one. That nailed the coffin

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shut for me. I don't know
the moon landing though, you know that

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one is barely obvious for normal people
to get. I would think that does

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not pass the sniff test whatsoever.
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we know that jury besment Off.
I don't remember his last Yeah, I

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mean that was all Where did he
put that huge camera? It's little thing.

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How did we get through the Van
Allen belt? We haven't been able

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to do it and went like thirty
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another strike I got or shadow bann

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or whatever. But I with the
moon landing. It was the Artemis one

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launch. I did a man on
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or two people that I thought it was

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a little suspicious. But have you
heard anything about Artemis lately? No.

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The last thing that I've heard was
there still a go for What's really interesting

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is last time I looked, I
haven't looked in a couple of weeks,

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but it was scheduled for like November
fourth, which is like either a day

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prior or the day of the election. Like, is this going to be

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the big distraction. Yeah, it
could be. Is that the man's mission?

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that could be the distraction man,

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right, you know, a couple
astronauts pass away or yeah, like a

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challenge or two point zero right,
yeah. Do you think that was Do

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you think they were trying to cover
anything up? It was. It was

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a lot easier to cover stuff up
in the eighties and the nineties than it

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is now. For sure. In
what was that eighty six or eighty seven

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when that happened. Back then,
we only had a handful of channels on

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cable, so maybe twenty four twenty
five, so things were much more controlled.

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still doing newspapers back then, and
they were primarily controlled by the same people

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for the most part. Now,
when I did my research, NASA was

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really struggling with finances in the mid
eighties and like they were getting overlooked when

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it came a budget time, so
I think they needed to be seen.

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And again I don't think anybody was
on that on the rocket, but the

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very next day they were awarded a
three billion dollar contract. And this is

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in nineteen eighty six or seven when
it happened. So that was a huge

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amount of money for the military industrial
company. That's who that's who gets the

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contracts for NASA is the military industrial
complex. And you don't want to be

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the senator saying no to a bill
where all these people just got killed.

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In every child you know in school
witnessed. You're not going to be the

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bad guy. So we got like
approved unanimously within a couple of days,

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and all these contracts and you know
NASA was back and running. Yeah,

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I mean that makes sense. Funding. What do you think about all this

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UAP stuff going on. I mean, I don't think it holds a whole

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lot of water, But what do
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it's hilarious that nobody cares. I
think if this was in the eighties,

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and I think if it was in
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like glued to their TVs. But
I think I keep going back to this,

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but man, I will tell you, Scott, I think that they

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played they overplayed their COVID hands so
bad that nobody, I would say seventy

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percent of the country just doesn't believe
anything the government says anymore. Yeah,

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yeah, no, I don't.
I don't know. You know, I'm

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on the Paranormal podcast, but I'm
I'm the skeptic out of the group.

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And I just I mean the trials, first off, it's all hearsay,

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and they keep labeling this guy as
a whistleblower, but he's you know,

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he's still working, he's not a
whistle blower, didn't lose his job,

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he's not in hiding like snowdon I
don't know. Kind of made me believe

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a little less, to be honest
with it, kind of makes me think

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that they're trying to go full Project
blueby that absolutely, and that's been something

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in the work since the eighties.
And again, right, the whistleblowers,

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the real whistleblowers get thrown in jail. It just like some of the names

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that you just said. And this
guy is being propped up and being allowed

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to speak in Congress. And if
if I remember correctly, it was like

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the same day the Hunter Biden trial
was going, So I think it was

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a little bit of sleight of hand. And Freed what's his name, the

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guy who did the the cryptocurrency scheme. Oh yeah, that kid with the

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curly hair. Yeah, it was
the same time that he got all of

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his charges dropped or five of his
charges dropped. That it was that was

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crazy his name. Do you see
any hope you know? Is there hope

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going forward? Is there hope going
forward? It depends what you describe as

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hope. So here's you can you
can kind of have it on different layers,

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Like as a religious person, there's
hope for eternal life. But and

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this is like something I struggle with
is at the same time, I don't

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want to turn things over to my
children, grandchildren the way things are now.

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The thing I struggle with is the
people who've been put in power have

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built this brick wall around them to
where they are untouchable. And there is

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a great article that I'm actually going
to be sharing on my other podcast,

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and it talks about how nine to
eleven was really just the setup and that

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nine eleven was then excuse me,
January six was the nail in the coffin.

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And I've been saying this for a
long time. I don't think people

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understand how big of a PSI up
and how detrimental it is to the freedom

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of our country. And people don't
also realize November twenty nineteen, that Adam

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Shift guy. They had the Patriot
Act two point oh get passed while everybody

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was hearing the stories of the coming
COVID this They're always distracting you. There

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was another like Patriot at two point
zero to bring even more tyranny upon us,

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which coincidentally, you know, you
saw the technical tyranny like you and

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I have both experience on our YouTube
channels. I mean, here you are

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talking about the moon landing, which
is nothing more than a water cooler conspiracy,

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and you're getting strikes for that.
When you have Russell Brand who literally

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has a thirty three tattoo on his
arm or his hand, and he talks

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about things that are ten times as
outright, he just nothing happens to him.

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Yeah, and you know, I
mean, like playing Devil's advocate for

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a lot of these people, I
would like to think, like maybe they're

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just too big to shut down.
You know, they kicked Tucker Carlson off

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a Fox, but then he goes
on the Twitter or x or whatever it's

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called and he's raking in the numbers. It's just so hard to know what

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is controlled up position nowadays. Yeah, I mean, I guess it always

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was technically you know, the hippie
generation. They didn't they didn't know.

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But you know, money, money
corrupts or power corrupts absolutely. But who

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who do you trust? Do you
trust any news outlets? You know?

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I've come to the realization that if
somebody's on the world stage, whether it's

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Tucker Carlson or Alex Jones or you
know the folks on YouTube, the big

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names and I'm talking about you know, like Russell Russell Brand, I don't

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trust them. But that doesn't mean
I won't listen to him, because I

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do know that the enemy uses these
people for disclosure, to kind of let

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you know it's coming. That's why
when Alex Jones said a couple of weeks

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ago that they were bringing back masks
in October and by December everything he'll be

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back to the way it was in
twenty twenty, I took heed to that,

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because they use these people to disclose
what's coming. At the same time,

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I realize he's controlled by Strat four, which is like two blocks away

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from him in Austin. And you
see guys like Jeremy Brown, who we've

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had on the podcast a few times, on the other podcast, who just

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showed up to January sixth. Then
he didn't want to be he didn't want

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to work for the FBI. He
said no, and he released the video

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and he got hemmed up and he's
in jail for seven years. And all

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these other guys and grand moms who
were just rotting in jail for just the

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dumbest stuff when during the summer of
twenty twenty, entire cities were burned down

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and just nothing to see here.
It's it's complete bizarro world. So do

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you think like without because I got
into Alex Jones back in like two thousand

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and seven, two thousand and eight, the recession hit. I was in

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La County, California at that time, and that like really hit towards the

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end of two thousand and seven.
Yeah, and that's you know kind of

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when I when I got into it, and I wish I would have bought

408
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:38.559
the bitcoin back then. I can
tell you that my dad and my wife

409
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:43.119
talked me out of it. Could
have put ten bucks, could have put

410
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.319
ten bucks in that. But do
you think that's just a slow drip to

411
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:53.279
kind of get the other half on
the other controlled side, or are you

412
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:59.680
talking about like the Alex Joneses.
Yeah, like Alex Jones back in two

413
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:04.880
thousand in the eight there's no censorship. Nobody's really going after him at that

414
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.679
time. You know, he's kind
of under the radar. Do you think

415
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:13.480
that was planned out? Man?
That's see, that's the thing I struggle

416
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.320
with also. But I have friends
who tell me, like, well,

417
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.960
there's literally no other way he would
have been able to get into in two

418
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.599
thousand when he got into that place
in California. I don't know why not

419
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:29.039
having a brain cramp right now,
but with a big owl in the Mola.

420
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.719
Yeah, the little thing where Reagan
and all the people going have their

421
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.000
They burn the effigy and they chant
and do all this other stuff. They

422
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.840
make it out like a shell.
It's just a rich guy's place. We

423
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.960
hang out and have a couple of
beers, but they everybody knows it's a

424
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:49.480
club where they do some some crazy
stuff. It's I don't know if once

425
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.960
again, this is something that stored
at started out as organic and they get

426
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:59.360
hijacked because it's not difficult for the
people who have the power that they have

427
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.280
to correct to people. They can
do it in so many different ways.

428
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:06.840
Because people are weak, they can
buy them off. People will do insane

429
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.599
things for half a million dollars,
insane things. They will sell out for

430
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:15.440
money, right for sure. Yeah, and then there's you know, I've

431
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:23.719
heard stories of politicians being escorted into
rooms and they witness just insane things and

432
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:25.840
they kind of look at him and
say, you're going to do what we

433
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.920
tell you or that's you. And
then of course there's Epstein. He was

434
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:36.920
used. He was used to corrupt
politicians. That's why when you say why

435
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.519
in the world is the Republicans not
doing what's because they've been corrupted and they

436
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:45.639
don't work for you. And then
that's just the truth. Well, this

437
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:51.320
is a you know, that whole
Epstein didn't kill himself thing was going around

438
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.320
during the height of COVID, And
that's always the thing I've said, is

439
00:35:54.360 --> 00:36:00.000
this guy owned islands. He had
dirt on everybody. I don't think he's

440
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:06.079
dead. His brother and one other
person saw his dead body. There were

441
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:10.519
two security guards that weren't paying attention, Like there are four people in total

442
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.800
that could have been paid off,
so this guy could have flown to his

443
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.119
next island. I mean the same
with the d DHL guy, right,

444
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:24.199
like she died in a plane crash, did he. I mean all the

445
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:29.440
money in the world, all the
power, I don't know U. Yeah,

446
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:37.239
and his what's the name of his
cohort Gaus Lane Maxwell. Yeah,

447
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.079
we're not interviewing. Yeah, and
her dad was one of the most powerful

448
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:46.800
Massad agents in the world and he
This is what just gets me so upset.

449
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:52.199
And people just don't understand how our
education system is so corrupted when there's

450
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.039
entire other countries that control our education
system. You know, this guy was

451
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.639
Massad worked for Israel, and he
owned mcgrawl Hill Books and that was like

452
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:04.679
the number two company in America that
provides the textbooks in America. That's why,

453
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.159
like no high school student has ever
heard of the USS Liberty incident.

454
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:15.000
Yeah, I mean I remember mcgrawl
boats. Yeah, absolutely, and this

455
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:22.119
this massad agent from Israel owned the
company. Yeah. I just I don't

456
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.519
see, Like I said earlier when
I first came on, I'm not I'm

457
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:31.519
not an atheist by any means,
but I'm not religious and I don't see

458
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:38.119
a lot of hope going forward.
Yeah, it's go ahead, and sorry,

459
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.760
well I just don't I don't know
what to do with that. You

460
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:50.199
know. It's like my uncle was
a manager of a produce department. My

461
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.320
other uncle was the manager of the
meat Delhi. My neighbor across the street

462
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:59.880
was a manager of a produce department. They all had owned their house,

463
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:05.840
they had two cars, Christmases,
the whole shooting match, and now we

464
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:10.800
have zombies on fentanyl in the middle
of every city. It's even hitting Utah,

465
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.840
Like I don't, everybody's living paycheck
to paycheck. It's just such a

466
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:24.000
different world AI coming out the government
doing what they're doing. I don't not

467
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:30.480
a lot of hope. Do you
think that part of the reason where we

468
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:36.280
are today as a society is because
we've never nipped the corruption in the bud

469
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.639
and we just allowed it to happen. Absolutely. Yeah. I think at

470
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.960
the end of the day, everybody, you know, there's just not enough

471
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.000
time in the day to do anything
about it. And now we're at a

472
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.599
point where, you know, how
how do you organize on the internet that's

473
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:59.639
not happening. The guy's going to
show up, right, Yeah, So

474
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.119
I mean that's that's part of the
problem too. How how do you stop

475
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.119
it? I don't personally think Trump's
the option, Oh no, I don't

476
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:15.559
think Robert F. Kennedy's the option
or the bake or like, well,

477
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.239
we need to have literally like Scott
from Utah or George from Delaware or Bob

478
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:25.039
from New Hampshire. And we've always
championed elites and they don't care about us.

479
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.599
So why do we continue to put
our hopes on people who we don't

480
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:35.199
know, who are in a completely
different stratosphere than us. Yeah, and

481
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.519
you know, they it's funny because
they yell about this every election cycle,

482
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:45.079
and they'll yell about this in this
new election cycle. But you know,

483
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:52.320
they say Trump didn't or Trump got
more votes or whatever. But it's down

484
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.000
to the electoral college, no matter
what, It's always been down to the

485
00:39:55.039 --> 00:40:00.360
electoral college. Now, I know
Trump is the first one who is kind

486
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.239
of disputed that the electoral college.
He could have put the other people in

487
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.320
there. But you know, your
vote has never really mattered. No,

488
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:17.039
They've voted one hundred and seventy six
times against the electoral college, so I

489
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:21.719
mean, it's never been a deciding
vote, but it could be. There's

490
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:28.159
no law against it. Yeah,
I think, and I've come to learn

491
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.159
and to believe for myself that politics
is just another tool they used to divide

492
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.159
us. As long as they keep
us divided, we can't get together and

493
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:40.639
turn the microscope on them. And
it's it's really crazy because you know,

494
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.960
people, no matter what culture,
race, ethnicity you are, like,

495
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:50.559
people pretty much want the same thing. They want to go to work,

496
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.159
they want to come home to their
family, and they just want to live

497
00:40:53.239 --> 00:41:00.159
their life. But other people have
always had bigger plans than that. So

498
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:06.800
for sure, you're on a paranormal
podcast. Let me ask you this question.

499
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.440
Do you think the people at the
top of the food chain do you

500
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:15.960
subscribe to the reptilian theory? Like
David Ike? I don't. I personally

501
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:22.239
don't know. I you know,
I did that. I did that birds

502
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:28.119
not birds aren't real video just to
be funny, like that whole movement was

503
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:35.400
started as a joke. It was
a kid who thought of the first three

504
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.679
words that came to his mind,
wrote a sign, and then took off

505
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.760
and he made it. You know, maybe controlled opposition. I just think

506
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:46.440
the kid got lucky with the David
Ike stuff. I mean, does Hillary

507
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:54.920
Clinton drink adreno cream? Maybe?
But the reptilian I don't fall into,

508
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.360
do you, uh No, not
particularly all. I have shaken Hillary clinton

509
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.360
hand and it is cold and clammy
like a ratile, so I wouldn't be

510
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:08.559
shocked. But no, I don't. You know. It's when you hear

511
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:13.000
these type of things for the first
time, it's intriguing and you kind of

512
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.800
jump into it and read it.
And then just like when like I heard

513
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.320
Flat Earth Dave talking about there's land
beyond the ice walls and I was like,

514
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:22.920
oh wow, that's really interesting.
Then you realize, well, that

515
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.559
would require additional sons and everything else, so I kind of backed off.

516
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:31.320
That's I'm not telling his that's his
opinion. But there's a lot of these

517
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.840
things, the bird ones I never
understood well, and there's some there's still

518
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.679
some people today that are very passionate
about it. I'll get a email once

519
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.320
every six or eight weeks, Hey, bro, have you heard about this?

520
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:49.760
I'm just like, no, Well, for anybody who is like believing

521
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.920
that's listening. Like I did that
video and I'll tell you, every Gen

522
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:58.800
X to millennial knows what it is
and they kind of play along. It

523
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:02.199
made for a very fun on video. But I, you know, I

524
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:12.400
totally support that kid, you know, for sure starting a fake cause,

525
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:17.039
you know, like a fake protest. It drives me insane. I would

526
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:25.159
consider myself a old school liberal,
not a new liberal for sure. But

527
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:31.440
the whole freedom of speech thing that
they're trying to ban is I do not

528
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:38.840
know how they've changed liberals into marks
pro war, anti freedom of speech,

529
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:45.480
yelling at people like it used to
be live and let live, you know.

530
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:51.039
I don't know how they turned everything
on its head like that. That's

531
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.440
the thing that's most surprising to me. Yeah, I'm not sure. If

532
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:58.280
you're familiar with a guy named Jimmy
Dore who's on YouTube, Yeah, I've

533
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.320
listened to a couple of his.
Yeah, that's the classic liberal no word

534
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:06.239
in anti military industrial complex, freedom
of speech, and he's just like,

535
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.280
what is happening? This is not
like the movement. Definitely better than Bill

536
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.760
mahrk because it's like, oh yeah, yeah, Bill maher. You listen

537
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:22.119
to his stuff and he he's just
has these Trump blinders on where he sees

538
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:29.440
red. I don't. I don't
know TDS for sure, but then again,

539
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.599
that's all when you hear Trump,
that's just to pull the devise,

540
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:38.039
you know, dividing conquered. And
people are still like, he got arrested?

541
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:40.599
Was it? Two? Three?
Weeks ago now, the end of

542
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.840
third week August or something. He
made seven million dollars in donations in twenty

543
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.920
four hours and then he spent it
all on his legal funds. Yeah,

544
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:54.559
which is uh, you know,
I don't know. I know a lot

545
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:59.079
of people that think he's gonna win, but I mean, what are his

546
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:04.639
core case is looking like during the
election cycle? You know, And I

547
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:09.119
know a lot of people have swapped
over to his side, but I mean,

548
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.800
this is just the start of what
they're gonna do. I don't I

549
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:17.360
don't know, you know, Trump
might be probably is controlled opposition. He

550
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:22.000
was an old for sure New York
Democrat back in the nineties and early two

551
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:29.280
thousands. But I don't know.
I just tell everybody, look at everybody

552
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.840
who put in his cabinet. He
came in saying two things. He said,

553
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.559
I'm going to arrest Hillery and then
I'm going to drain the swamp.

554
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:37.519
And like the first week he was
in the office, I'm not going to

555
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.159
arrest Hillery. She's a friend,
she's good, right. And then Bill

556
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:49.800
Barr Christopher Ray Wilbur Ross, who
was literally an agent for the Rothschild's company,

557
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:54.719
who was a Democrat for like sixty
years woke up in twenty seventeen and

558
00:45:54.760 --> 00:46:00.679
said, I'm feeling Republican today,
and he was installed as the Secretary of

559
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.000
Commerce. I believe it's just it's
just a game. It's it's just a

560
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.920
script. And him and Elon Musk, all these people at the top,

561
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.800
they're just actors on a world stage. And whether or not they're agents of

562
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:20.679
the CIA or something bigger that,
I'm not one hundred percent sure. The

563
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.440
Elon Musk thing kind of drives me
crazy because you know, there's a lot

564
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:30.320
of people on the right who think
he's like the savior figure. It's embarrassing,

565
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.639
man, these people. You know, he went from a guy who

566
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.760
was talking about transhumanism and everybody on
the right hated him, and then he

567
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.639
just changed character like WWE and he's
a good guy now. And it's disgusting

568
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.800
to me because he took Tesla's name
and ran with it, and that's an

569
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:52.039
embarrassment in itself. Well, he's
he's taken every company he's ever owned his

570
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:57.639
name. Like he didn't actually invent
PayPal. He was some sort of donor,

571
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.000
right, and like you got a
kind of wonder where's all this money

572
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.760
coming from? And now with his
SpaceX, Like how much funding is he

573
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:12.960
getting from the US government for SpaceX
and you think like he's going against them.

574
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.519
I don't. I don't know,
you know. I mean, it

575
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:21.920
is possible that he made so much
money that now he's just doing whatever he's

576
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:27.159
doing. I don't believe that though. I think he's installed to play the

577
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.119
game, some South African guy that
nobody had ever heard of, and then

578
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:37.880
he just rose to the top.
He seems a little suspicious. And his

579
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:46.239
Twitter picture is like he's wearing like
Moloch into this evil type of uniform on

580
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:52.840
he's not even hiding it. Yeah, I mean, like I said,

581
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:58.920
it's just not a lot of hope, not a lot of hope out there.

582
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.360
Yeah, it's it can be depressing. That's why I've kind of backed

583
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.880
off. You know. Back in
the day, I was, you know,

584
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:08.199
we just need to go down to
DC and protests, and they got

585
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:12.119
ahead of it. They knew people
were gonna be there're always one step ahead.

586
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.039
They did January six, and now
nobody in the right mind is going

587
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:17.079
to go down there because they don't
want to be tossed in the gulag.

588
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:22.280
So I've focused my energy on the
governor and that guy will not return a

589
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.960
phone call and not even an email. And I even started with the old

590
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:30.679
I'm an old, grizzled veteran and
you know, seven deployments. He still

591
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.920
won't even take thirty seconds to acknowledge
my existence. And that's when people need

592
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:43.400
to realize that. You know,
there's the famous quote. When people fear

593
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.239
the government, there's tyranny, and
when the government fear the people, there's

594
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:52.480
freedom. And we are at the
point now where the government is this hawk

595
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:58.679
green giant and we the people are
little ants. Really is where the power

596
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:04.639
is right now? Well, this
is like kind of a more left wing

597
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.800
question I've got for you. But
you know what, were there like one

598
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:12.719
hundred and sixty six people, one
hundred and sixty nine that signed the Declaration

599
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:16.400
of Independence? Do you happen to
know that off the top of your head?

600
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:22.920
I know it's around now. I'm
finding it now. I know this

601
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:27.519
because just a little while I was
doing a podcast and there was one guy

602
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.360
who when he signed it, he
only no, it's only fifty six signatures.

603
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.599
And that's I should remember that because
it was a Jesuit. Number fifty

604
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:38.400
six is a big, big Jesuit
number, but one of the guys kind

605
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:42.599
of signed it not his full name, because that's basically, when he signed

606
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:47.079
the Declaration of Independence, you were
committing treason. Yeah, So they came

607
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.079
back to him, they're like,
no, you put your full name on

608
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.440
there. So he did. But
I'm sorry, what was your question?

609
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:57.159
Well, they were like Sam bad
with the numbers of the names. But

610
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:01.440
there were eight or nine people who
actually fought Revolutionary War, and you know,

611
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:07.360
George Washington was one of them who
signed the Declaration of Independence. But

612
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:12.360
then a lot of those people,
after we won the Revolutionary War went back

613
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:16.079
to England and you know, they
had trade routes and everything else. I

614
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:24.719
kind of I'm more on the conspiratorial
level that maybe the founding of our country

615
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:34.360
was started off to you know,
better people's lives, maybe break away from

616
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.360
the crown, the church, whatever. But I think it's always been elites

617
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:45.239
who have been in control personally,
So for sure, I've I don't think

618
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:50.760
it's a coincidence that the Illuminati started
May first, seventeen seventy six, and

619
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:54.280
you know, sixty three days later, you know, we did the Declaration

620
00:50:54.280 --> 00:51:00.199
of Independence on July fourth, And
it's not a coincidence that George Washington was

621
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:05.239
more proud of being a Freemason than
he was being in the president. You

622
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:12.480
can look at his memorial it says
Freemason first, President second. So I

623
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.360
don't think it's out of the realm
of possibility that the story of how our

624
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:22.880
country came to be was maybe a
bit of a stretch to say it's it's

625
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:27.880
a big question. Anytime Freemasons are
involved, that's got to be a big

626
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:31.559
flag. And so much of our
history is a lie. I think I

627
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:35.559
said it on this story, right, yea, his story, and it's

628
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.320
it's the story of the victors,
those who control the books, like Robert

629
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:43.280
Maxwell, right, and a lot
of I don't know if I said it

630
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:46.800
on this podcast, but Abraham Lincoln
was the most tyrannical president in our history.

631
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:52.920
Like it's not even close. There's
nobody a close second. He locked

632
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.880
up his own citizens, like twenty
thirty thousand of them. He put out

633
00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.280
a warrant for a Supreme Court justice. He closed on hundreds, if not

634
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.519
thousands, of newspapers if they spoke
bad about him. He sent off his

635
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.159
cronies to shut down the newspapers.
And this was really the first time where

636
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:12.440
you saw what we see today,
where if you go against the machine,

637
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.000
you get canceled, you get shut
down and even arrested. So this kind

638
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.199
of thing is not new. It's
been going on for like one hundred and

639
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:22.840
sixty years. So do you think, you know, like back when they

640
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.639
started this country, but even if
it was started on a lie, I

641
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:34.280
still think there was more not respect, but you know, they wanted the

642
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:39.440
normal person to do a lot better
than they want us to do now.

643
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:45.960
Like I kind of think we're at
the point now with the social credit scores

644
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:52.960
and these COVID vaccines where everybody's dying
suddenly, where they actually kind of believe

645
00:52:53.039 --> 00:53:00.719
in that population number for their green
agenda, where they're trying to you know,

646
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:06.000
have fifteen minutes cities for the worker
bees to do what needs to be

647
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:12.440
done, and they don't really care
as much about human life as maybe they

648
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:16.519
did back then. I would agree
with that for sure. In order for

649
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:21.199
this country to succeed as no as
it was, it would have taken all

650
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.599
the individuals to succeed, and things
weren't as easy then as now, so

651
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:30.079
it took everybody to kind of work
to build a community, to collect firewood.

652
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.639
Right, they didn't have microwaves,
they didn't have All their ovens were

653
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:36.679
wood burning. So in order to
get through the day, if you just

654
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.159
sat on your behind, you wouldn't
need So it did take the work of

655
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:44.119
many to feed and to bring on, you know, as you got through

656
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:49.400
the eighteen hundreds with the industrial revolution
and then cars and everything else, it

657
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:53.480
did take everyone, and they did
want people to succeed. However, post

658
00:53:53.519 --> 00:54:00.360
World War Two, when that mission
was accomplished, I think that's that's when

659
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.519
the CIA got ramped up. That's
when NATO got ramped up, the United

660
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:07.000
Nations, and that is the day
in nineteen forty eight is when they started

661
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:12.480
this globalist agenda. So it's been, in my opinion, about seventy five

662
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:20.159
years in the making. So what
do you make of the whole Like the

663
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:27.079
nineteen fifties nuclear family thing, what
was that just like an advertisement kind of

664
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:31.400
a promise. This is what it
could be lasted probably untill about you know,

665
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:37.280
I mean, I know there were
a couple of recessions or whatever until

666
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:43.679
the seventies, but maybe until the
nineties. Like life was kind of good

667
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:47.039
for the modern nuclear family to an
extent. But why do you think they

668
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:52.159
did that just an advertisement to keep
the worker bees going. Yeah, I

669
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.920
think they wanted to keep the worker
bees going. And I think it was

670
00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:00.719
also I think they did, in
a certain weird way, went a reward

671
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:05.159
the people for the work they did
for World War two. So they wanted

672
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:09.280
people to come home happy after all
the struggle and sacrifice. And they are

673
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:13.760
the controllers, are boiled the frog
type of people. They're not going to

674
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:17.800
change anything overnight. So they came
back. There was success, and again

675
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:25.079
it was probably I started to notice
it in the early nineties. NAFTA was

676
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:30.000
a huge blow to this country.
Yes, everybody always says, how do

677
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:36.440
we fix this country? And it's
the easiest question. You bring back manufacturing,

678
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:40.159
it's the easiest thing. I remember
Lebron James talking about the things he

679
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:45.920
was doing for Los Angeles. He
was donating this and I said, in

680
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.000
whatever social media like, nobody cares
about what I said, But I said,

681
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.000
if you want to save the city, just close up the shops in

682
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.920
the Philippines and China and have your
shoes made right in Los Angeles, and

683
00:55:55.960 --> 00:56:01.519
maybe just maybe don't take as much
money from night because I'm thinking you probably

684
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:05.239
have enough money to get by now, and if you really want to make

685
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:09.840
a difference, it's that easy.
Just bring manufacturing back, and people don't

686
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:16.000
realize it's insane. In logistics,
we now have something called just in time

687
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:21.400
logistics. We don't have these huge
warehouses anymore. Like grocery stores don't keep

688
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.719
six months worth of stock. They
have it set up to when that last

689
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:28.760
loaf of bread is sold that that
new bread shipment is coming in that morning.

690
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.440
So what happened with COVID when these
justin time logistics got interrupted, That's

691
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:38.199
why you saw the shortages on the
shelves. And if we go into a

692
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:43.639
hot war with Russia and China joins
with them, I mean, the shortages

693
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:50.800
are going to be just unfathomable.
Because we've outsourced so much of our manufacturing,

694
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:55.519
our TVs, our computers to China. Well, nobody ever brings that

695
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:00.440
back. You know, with this
whole fent and al crisis of the homeless

696
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:04.119
prisis whatever you want to call it. And if it's a fentol crisis,

697
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:08.440
but you know, you can give
these people all the money in the world

698
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:14.159
and it's it's not going to fix
the problem. There's still no hope at

699
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:16.800
the end of the day. And
I mean I was kind of guilty of

700
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:22.239
that. So I got kicked out
of my house. When I was seventeen

701
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:27.920
and I joined the carnival. I
convinced one of my buddies to join a

702
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:34.000
carnival with me, Shipton and Show's
carnival. We traveled across California about to

703
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:39.320
go to North and South Dakota,
and I mean that was the guy was

704
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:43.840
ripping this off for sure, right. We got paid twenty eight dollars a

705
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:49.639
day and then set up and tear
down, which took two to three days

706
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.920
out of the week. That was
your bonus at the end of the year.

707
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.400
So every day he would give you
twenty dollars a day to live on

708
00:57:55.480 --> 00:58:04.360
and we ended up owning money.
And I you know, we we hitchhike

709
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:07.840
to San Francisco and I was one
of these people. I mean, I

710
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:12.679
you know, we were doing drugs
on the street party and I've actually been

711
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:20.440
arrested with the anarchist Black Block,
been in protest with the Anarcho Green Anarcho

712
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:28.000
Red. I started a food not
bombs. I've been there. It's changed

713
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:34.679
a heck of a lot, but
we had that same sort of mentality back

714
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:39.039
in the early two thousands where it
was like, you know, what is

715
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:45.159
what is the point of this?
And now I think the people that are

716
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.119
out there now, especially the young
kids, you know, you get like

717
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:53.960
sucked into punk rock or any type
of anarchism. It's like, now you

718
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:59.880
see your parents who are really struggling. My parents were baby boomers, and

719
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:05.360
I saw them, you know,
working all the time just to keep up

720
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:12.239
with it. But now it's like
you you see your parents working non stop

721
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:16.280
and they're constantly behind, and you're
constantly moving from state to state wherever the

722
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:22.159
work is, and there's a recession, a depression. It's just non stop.

723
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.599
And I think that's where a lot
of a lot of these people on

724
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:30.079
the street are just stuck in this
mentality where it's like, do I work

725
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:36.880
at Walmart? Because stones in the
world you can't afford to buy a one

726
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:45.559
bedroom apartment working at a Walmart,
you know, And that has absolutely everything

727
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:50.000
to do with the fact that we
do not produce anything in this country.

728
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:54.440
There's no you know, unless you're
making it on the internet or a stock

729
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:59.519
trader. For the average man.
Even construction, you know, I work

730
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:04.400
five years in construction. The last
year, there were five different companies.

731
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:07.639
They all went out of them.
We had this big corporation that came in

732
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:13.880
and took all the work from us. I've been doing the property management for

733
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:17.639
ten years, five different companies.
They've all sold to a bigger company and

734
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:22.360
higher hourly workers, and they cut
the hours to like, you know,

735
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:29.079
four hours a day, three days
a week. It's I just don't see

736
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:34.239
a lot of hope for people trying
to make it. And I totally understand

737
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:40.920
the whole the whole FENTONOL crisis.
It's it's more of a Okay, if

738
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:45.079
I get clean, what do I
do do I work at Walmart and have

739
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:50.400
a roommate in a one bedroom apartment. You know, I don't you need

740
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:55.559
the manufacturing to fix that problem.
You need us to build stuff. Yeah,

741
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:59.840
And that goes back to your question
about the fifties and sixties and seventies.

742
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:05.639
All my friends parents, they worked
at Chrysler building cars. We had

743
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:09.719
a Chrysler plant in town where everybody
worked at They had DuPonts. A bunch

744
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:14.719
of people worked there. I mean, we manufactured things in our hometown in

745
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:19.280
Delaware. And then in the seventies, towards the end of the seventies,

746
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:23.039
they just disappeared and everybody all the
banks are incorporated here. That's what kind

747
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:27.000
of saved our state. So,
I mean half the people in the state

748
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:31.039
worked for Barclays or or City Bank
or because they they headquartered here, because

749
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:35.599
of all the tax breaks they get. But it was sad to see all

750
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:43.199
the card manufacturers and those type of
things just kind of close out and now

751
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:52.119
they're Amazon warehouses. Yeah. I
don't know. I mean my parents would

752
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:58.199
talk about how you know, everybody
owned their own business. And I remember,

753
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.039
you know, I was at some
protests when I was a younger kid

754
01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:07.519
against Walmart's coming in. Now we
have Amazon shutting down the Walmarts. It's

755
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.920
like, what do you do with
that? Yeah, it's like most people

756
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:17.559
either work for the government, Amazon, or like Walmart. That's like half

757
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:22.960
of them. No, keep going. I'm sorry now, just because that's

758
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.840
like half the workforce. The federal
government is the largest employer in the country,

759
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:30.880
and then Amazon and Walmart and the
less choices you have, the worst

760
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:37.400
it is for the worker. And
we saw how it went for Greece,

761
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:43.519
you know, ten years ago.
Oh my goodness for the government. But

762
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:47.280
people they still want to increase the
size of the government. And look at

763
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:52.800
Venezuela. They were piles of piles
of cash in the streets. It was

764
01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:59.519
useless. Yeah, I mean,
that's happened. That hyper inflation. That's

765
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:05.280
you know, that one of the
things Alex Jones got wrong. But it's

766
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:10.400
happened to a lot of places.
Yeah, and so I gotta be careful.

767
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:15.440
We're reckless with our debt. Just
just yesterday, you know, September

768
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:21.199
fourth into September fifth, our country
went another thirty nine billion dollars in debt

769
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:24.039
overnight, one night, thirty nine
billion dollars in debt. And just keep

770
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:32.159
unrolling along. Yeah. I mean, man, I'm just doing this podcast.

771
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:37.639
I'm getting like less hopeful, and
we're here to cheer you out,

772
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:43.559
folks. What's next. I wouldn't
touched flat Earth yet. Yeah. I

773
01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.000
wanted to ask you a couple of
questions, and this one is this one

774
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:51.119
is actually you can even This question
is whether it's a ball, whether or

775
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:54.400
not it's a ball or flat Do
you think that there is land within this

776
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:59.079
realm, whether it be a globe
or flat earth, that they control that

777
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:04.280
we don't know of. So that's
that's actually how I kind of well,

778
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:11.400
so I did the whole hollow Earth
thing, you know with the Green Children.

779
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.239
I don't know if you know,
that's like more of a paranormal thing.

780
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:20.679
The two green children that came out
of the cave in some Austrian country

781
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:26.960
and the brother died, the girl
ended up making it forever. And then

782
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.800
there's a you know, a bunch
of a bunch of Indian or Native American

783
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:36.960
tribes that believe in the hollow Earth
and everything. But I always kind of

784
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:42.320
saw it as just more of like
a fun thing to think about. But

785
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:46.440
then that's how I actually start listening
to your podcast, was my sister is

786
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:53.599
a non religious flat earth and from
what I've gotten, they believe, I

787
01:04:53.639 --> 01:05:00.840
mean, she's David like reptilians like
they are. They are full blown David

788
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:08.559
Ike. But you know, I
ran out of podcast to listen to,

789
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:14.880
so yours was the first one I
listened to, and then I had heard

790
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:21.480
some stuff. I guess the first
thing would be the the first thing that

791
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:29.280
kind of made sense was the fact
that our earth is spinning so fast and

792
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:32.840
the gravitational poll is the same no
matter where you are, right, so

793
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:38.559
like, if the Earth is spinning, you would imagine the gravity at the

794
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:45.400
equator would be a lot different than
the gravity at the That was the first

795
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:50.719
thing that kind of turned me onto
it. Another thing I started to think

796
01:05:50.760 --> 01:06:00.079
about was I got this written down
here. So the Earth is two one

797
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:03.960
hundred and thirty nine thousand miles away
from the moon. Yeah, but then

798
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:11.880
the Moon is ninety three million miles
away from the Sun, and you can

799
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.840
kind of see, you know,
I mean there are days, specific months

800
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:24.000
and everything where the Sun is I
don't know from our distance four inches away

801
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.519
from the moon, and the moon
is half full, and then you think

802
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:32.079
to yourself, like is the Earth
reflecting half of the light onto the Moon?

803
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:39.400
Like? How how is that lit
up? Right? So I mean

804
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:44.559
that that one was a real big
stumper. I think I thought of that

805
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:47.599
one after I listened to the podcasts. I don't think I heard that on

806
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:51.559
one of the shows I listened to. But I think, if while you're

807
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:56.000
talking about the moon, if I
could just mention it real quick before I

808
01:06:56.039 --> 01:06:59.920
forget was going back to the moon
landing and how they described the moon as

809
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:02.800
this big rock, it's dusty,
and then when you look at the sky,

810
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:09.599
it looks nothing like a big dusty
rock. Yeah, I know,

811
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:12.199
the moon, the moon landing.
I could go on for days. I

812
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:18.119
mean, you should probably start a
moon landing podcast because that is let's get

813
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:25.000
buzz Aldron on the show. How
people go for that? I don't know

814
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:30.280
that that's got a lot of hours
of content to watch disproving. Did you

815
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.280
have a thought of why they did
it? I mean, you don't buy

816
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:41.239
the whole just too so we could
say we did it first, right I

817
01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.679
kind of did. Yeah, Like
that's kind of what I thought. Like

818
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:49.480
Russia puts out this, you know, obviously fake video, right then America

819
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:55.360
did what what do you think the
why do you think they did it?

820
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:59.119
Or? I guess that's more for
like a religious purpose, right, Well,

821
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:03.559
that's part of it. It is
again part of the deception of heliocentrism

822
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:08.400
which has been going on. Really
they started the pushback during the Reformation,

823
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:14.199
and I think people don't really realize
what the Reformation was. You know what

824
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:16.800
the Reformation is what we need today. We need that kind of revolution,

825
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:21.760
you know, that's really what we
need. Martin Luther is kind of a

826
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:26.479
hero to me, but but I
also believe it's very much part of the

827
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:30.920
black ops in the military. Industrial
Complex one hundred percent. Because I've said

828
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.720
many times, if you go on
you look at a contract for NASA,

829
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:38.279
it's not like going to Lows where
you spend five dollars on a bolt because

830
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:42.800
it has to be specially designed and
it has to be coded with this it's

831
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:48.359
just an absolute cash cow. Thirty
bolt, Yeah, thirty dollars and just

832
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:53.920
I will tell you for me.
Well, I don't want to get there

833
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:58.079
yet. We're still talking about the
moon landing, but it is to me,

834
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:02.479
it's multifaceted, it's want it's the
deception number two maybe was it?

835
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:06.000
You know, we had the hippies. That was a pretty big distraction from

836
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:11.479
from Vietnam. And then would you
say that that was maybe part of a

837
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:16.119
distraction from Vietnam to make the government
look good for a minute. Yeah,

838
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:20.319
no, absolutely, And well,
like what do you think the Vietnam War

839
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:26.119
was fought over? I personally think
it was opium. Yeah, it was

840
01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:30.399
drugs, of course, Yeah,
just like Afghanistan, Yes, exactly.

841
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:35.640
And I actually when I was working
at that U Haul, I worked with

842
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:41.039
a lady your name was Carrie,
and she was actually one of the guards

843
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:45.680
that guarded the the poppy fields out
there and she was wondering. I mean,

844
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:49.079
this was like right at the beginning
of the war, and you know,

845
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:57.880
we're looking for weapons of mass destruction
and Saddam Hussein she was out there

846
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:01.439
garden plants and that was one of
the things she was curious. Yeah,

847
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.640
my commander lost his mind. And
I think it was the spring of two

848
01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:10.800
thousand and six when they had Operation
I can't remember what it's called Swarmer.

849
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:15.279
Swarmer. We had our guys go
down in a helicopter. They were okay,

850
01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:17.680
it was a hard landing. But
so the CIA was kind of running

851
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:21.399
that operation and it would get pushed
down to our brigade, back down to

852
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:25.920
our commander and like this is your
target, and we would go and it

853
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:30.359
would be like a farm and like
an eighty year old woman running the farm

854
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:32.399
and they're like, can you know
what's going on? The translator be like

855
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:39.000
and then he would get another call
go here. It was the biggest distraction.

856
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:42.680
It was just to let the American
people know that we were doing this

857
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:46.479
big mission and we were catching the
bad guys while we were harvesting their oil.

858
01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:50.000
That's all it was. And my
commander got very pissed off. Was

859
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:53.800
even about day six, He's like, this is bullshit. What are we

860
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.800
doing here? I mean, you're
sending us to farms to to just it's

861
01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:03.439
it's a goose chase just to make
a news story. I mean, that's

862
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:08.239
kind of a personal question. I
don't know if you've ever been asked on

863
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:12.119
the show, but do you regret
like joining the military? No, no,

864
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:13.960
no, no, no. I
don't regret anything I've done in my

865
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:18.000
life now because number one, I
never did anything against my moral compass,

866
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:24.039
and I was a good soldier.
I was knowledgeable, and I think God

867
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:28.319
put me there to help, you
know, bring people home safely. And

868
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:34.520
no, I don't now with that
being said, my children and my grandchildren

869
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:39.880
are joined the military, if I
have anything to say about it, But

870
01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:42.880
I'm not. I'm not a big
regret guy, to be honest with you.

871
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:46.079
And I think that whole journey is
part of the reason I have some

872
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:48.720
of the knowledge and the wisdom I
do today. I'm able to see the

873
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:53.000
world the way I do. I
really can. I know how it operates

874
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:59.319
because I've been there. Well,
yeah, nod was it twenty or twenty

875
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:03.199
two years? I did h nineteen
years active, five years in the Guards,

876
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:05.600
which they gave me a year.
So it was twenty four years of

877
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:12.439
service, twenty active and seven tours. You know, I did a desert

878
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.079
storm, I was in the Balkans, and then four tours of Iraq,

879
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.000
and then I did nine months in
Kuwait with a Patriot battery in my last

880
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:27.399
deployment. Yeah. Man, that's
uh, that's I don't remember something to

881
01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:30.880
be proud of. But it's like, you definitely accomplished some stuff. It's

882
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:34.760
rough, it's rough, but I
definitely saw how this government operates. I

883
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:38.600
I was. I did some contracting
as I got, you know, as

884
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:43.279
I advanced in the ranks, and
I saw the ridiculous numbers that were just

885
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:47.680
being pushed. And then, you
know, you find out that Paul Bremer

886
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:51.279
missing nine billion dollars, just not
a blink of the eye. And if

887
01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:56.079
a soldier misplaces something, they take
it up out of his paycheck. And

888
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:59.640
this guy's making you know, he's
deployed down range getting shot at and he's

889
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:05.199
making three thousand dollars a month.
And when you're working seven days a week,

890
01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:09.960
sixteen hours a day, soldiers make
mistakes and they take it out of

891
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:13.079
his paycheck. And then you have
these guys at the top of the food

892
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:17.359
chain that are losing money still,
and just it gets you a little upset,

893
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:19.960
especially once you come out to the
other side and realize how the world

894
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:25.239
works, especially when you have buddies
who have been lost and injured, and

895
01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:29.760
it is very frustrating and angry,
that's for sure. And that's part of

896
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:31.039
the reason why I do what I
do is just to kind of say,

897
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:34.399
hey, this is how it works. Beware if you do decide to go

898
01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:42.079
that route. It's admirable to want
to volunteer and protect your country, but

899
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:45.920
it's the people at the top of
the food chain are they should take the

900
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:50.119
late the sign off the Pentagon and
it should say Department of Offense, not

901
01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:59.199
Defense. Well, yeah, you
know, you've definitely earned your way to

902
01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:02.439
where you're at. No, I
mean not a lot of other people talking

903
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:09.800
about conspiracies out there have served as
long as you've had in so well,

904
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:11.720
Like I said, it's all part
of the journey, and I think I

905
01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:15.880
needed the knowledge. I wouldn't been
able to present my information the same way

906
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:20.079
if I didn't have that knowledge.
And you know, it's it becomes personal,

907
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:24.000
and I think that gives me the
motivation to work harder at it.

908
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:28.199
I interviewed a guy last Saturday,
which is just three days ago. His

909
01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:32.239
father was a firefighter on the forty
fourth floor of Tower one when it collapsed,

910
01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:36.439
and it's number one. It's very
moving, but number two you realize,

911
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:41.520
you know, we as conspiracy theorists, we talk about the plane no

912
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:45.920
plane theory, we talk about all
these other direct energy weapons, and but

913
01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.880
at the end of the day,
he said, it doesn't matter, you

914
01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:53.439
know, the buildings. The only
thing that mattered to him was he eventually

915
01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:58.600
found out that he had another firefighter, like fifteen years later, say,

916
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:00.039
you know, your dad was in
the building. W the explosions went off.

917
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:02.600
It wasn't the plane, And that's
when he kind of woke up.

918
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:06.840
So he's hipped everything. But he
just doesn't get embellished in the things like

919
01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:12.359
we kind of do with was it
you know, was it thermo nanite?

920
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.880
Was it this? Because at the
end of the day, that's what happened,

921
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:18.880
And the most important thing to him
is that we need to find the

922
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:24.119
people responsible for it. Whatever way
they carried it out. That's we'll have

923
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:27.880
a conversation later. But it's frustrating
to him. It's personal to him that

924
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:32.680
you know, he lost a family
member and you know his obviously his life

925
01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.439
flipped. He was thirteen when it
happened, and then it flipped again when

926
01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:43.399
he found out his own country was
behind it. Yeah, yeah, I

927
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:48.880
know that. I don't know.
I think if I was in your shoes,

928
01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:55.359
I probably would have flipped the exact
opposite way and ended up in Portland,

929
01:15:55.479 --> 01:16:00.840
there's Seattle or wherever. So it's
good that you're you know, if

930
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.600
I was single, maybe, but
you know, when you got wife and

931
01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:13.119
children, these it's just uh yeah, it's it's a different stratosphere. So

932
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:18.760
the one thing I was very curious
about with the flatter was the math.

933
01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:29.359
And I'm pretty sure I've mentioned that
in in the email. But so I'm

934
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:33.239
in Utah. I have Utah Lake. It's the biggest non man made lake

935
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:41.119
west of the Mississippi. So I've
got twenty four miles across, and then

936
01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:45.359
I've got the the Great Salt Lake, which is seventeen miles across. And

937
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:51.960
I was wondering if I could,
like I've never really you know, been

938
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:58.920
confirmed on the math. Can I
set up a telescope and something to like

939
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:02.520
how far do you have to be
to see the curvature. Well, there's

940
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.279
a calculator. We could certainly do
it. But I would say instead of

941
01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:10.520
doing a and we have a lot
of listeners in Utah, but I think

942
01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:14.920
the smart thing to do would be
to use a laser. I think you'd

943
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.159
be better off using a laser.
Now, obviously I don't know how much

944
01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:23.720
it cost, but most people who
do those type because the most recent test

945
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:29.560
was I think it was somewhere in
Israel to Greece what they did with a

946
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:33.399
laser, and it was successful and
in that like way blew away what they

947
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:39.640
should be able to do with with
curvature. But yeah, I would suggest

948
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:43.359
doing a laser, you know,
at dusk or sundown something like that,

949
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:49.279
and that would certainly yeah, because
the utall the salt flats are ridiculous,

950
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:53.920
you should be able to to do
something there for sure, one hundred percent.

951
01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:58.119
I didn't even think about that.
I just thought, like, you

952
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:03.920
know, the water seventy five miles, I don't know, you know,

953
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:08.640
when it's supposed to curve or anything
like. I've heard people talk about the

954
01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:13.800
math, but I haven't heard exactly. Yeah, it's it's eight inches per

955
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:18.119
miles squared. Now there are some
people that say after one thousand miles it

956
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:26.640
is a different math. But but
certainly there's already been a tons of you

957
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:30.399
know, videos and people showing that
they can see entirely too far. Now

958
01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:32.279
that the mainstream media, like the
one in Chicago, they'll try to spend

959
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:38.760
it and say it's refraction, so
on and so forth. But I guess

960
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:43.279
the thing with me with flat Earth, even beyond the curvature and the moon

961
01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:47.319
landing and the biblical aspects of it, was I kind of sat down because

962
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:51.760
at that point I had been down
most rabbit holes, and I think what.

963
01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:57.960
The thing that kind of made me
say that's probably flat you know,

964
01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:01.079
three or four years ago, was
the fact that they've lied about everything.

965
01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:06.520
I mean everything. Our currency is
fake, the moon landing was fake.

966
01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:13.479
They've started wars overlies, on and
on and on. So I thought to

967
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:16.800
myself, why would they be telling
the truth about this one thing? And

968
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:19.479
then that's kind of the thing that
ate at me and kind of convinced me

969
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:26.319
to look more into the different things. And then I understood Captain Cook's voyage

970
01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:30.039
of sixty thousand miles because if it
were on a globe, it shouldn't have

971
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:32.039
been more than twenty five or even
if he got lost, say thirty thousand

972
01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:36.039
miles. And again, those are
stories, can't prove them, so you

973
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:40.880
just can't take them to the bank. But I think the thing that kind

974
01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:45.239
of turned me the most was like, I don't trust you know. I

975
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:46.800
was told in November of twenty twenty
one that if I didn't take a shot,

976
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:49.680
I was going to die. And
here I am, I'm still going

977
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:54.439
And the same people who said that
are on their second or third time getting

978
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:59.279
sick. Well, we were going
to kiddle everybody. Yeah, we were

979
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:09.399
going to kill Grandma Thanksgiving, right, Yeah, well that's actually yeah,

980
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:17.079
family members who I'm pretty sure are
affected directly from from the booster, like

981
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:24.560
they got boosted to the gills as
much. And I you know, none

982
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:30.560
of my kids are have any vaccines. I don't have any vaccines. But

983
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.199
it always seems to be the people
that have the most of them that are

984
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:42.920
like, really really affected. And
I kind of think that maybe they did

985
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:45.680
some placebos. Oh for sure,
that would be too too obvious if they

986
01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:51.119
didn't. Yeah, but I mean, you know, now they're going to

987
01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:55.319
be putting them out every year.
I don't know if this is a population

988
01:20:55.399 --> 01:21:00.640
control thing or I think it's a
combination of that, telling you to get

989
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:04.560
you. I was just gonna say
just that. And it's a cash cow.

990
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:09.800
I'm sure, Oh yeah, for
sure, they're making a lot of

991
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:15.720
money. But I mean I just
heard on MSNBC here or whatever to wait

992
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:19.800
to take your COVID booster because you
could, you know, get your COVID

993
01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:25.600
boost, your RSV and your flu
shot all at the same time, and

994
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:33.880
that wouldn't affect you. That's brutal, man. I don't know. Ah,

995
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:39.640
Man, this podcast, I'm getting
less and less hope. Let's talk

996
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:45.600
about unicorns and rainbows for a couple
of minutes. Let me ask you this,

997
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:49.479
if there was people out there in
Utah, in your neck of the

998
01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:53.840
woods, because we've had several on
the podcast already, that would be willing

999
01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:56.520
to help you do that, is
that something you'd be interested in trying.

1000
01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:01.359
I would be absolutely interested in trying
that. And I you know, I

1001
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:05.520
have a laser level, like a
construction laser level that's not going to reach.

1002
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:11.039
But yeah, I'll buy a telescope
or a laser and you know,

1003
01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:16.239
strap a level to it and see
whatever whatever happens. But I I don't

1004
01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:20.760
want to just buy into it.
You know, I'm kind of at the

1005
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:27.640
same place you said you were,
were like, they've lied about everything else,

1006
01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:31.479
so why wouldn't I, you know, believe in this, but I

1007
01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:34.800
want to see it before I believe
it, And that is that is the

1008
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:42.239
definition of being a critical thinker.
Yeah, I'm in a paranormal podcast and

1009
01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:47.279
I am the absolute skeptic. And
I actually started the thing. I reached

1010
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:55.840
out to everybody in every paranormal podcast
on Facebook and found some people, and

1011
01:22:55.880 --> 01:23:02.239
now we're up to five people.
But yeah, I want to prove Now,

1012
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:06.560
is your podcast not the same as
like your your YouTube channel or is

1013
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:11.760
that a different name. Yeah,
it's a totally different thing. It's more

1014
01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:19.680
just a fun deal. So we
started out with four people and then the

1015
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:24.279
one of the ladies only lasted two
weeks, and then it was the three

1016
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:30.680
of us for about a year and
a half and then somebody, Jeremy,

1017
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:33.119
one of the co hosts, he
went through some legal troubles. He might

1018
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:39.239
be back next week. We just
got the text from him today. But

1019
01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:45.880
we've gotten to more people on the
show. We're all strangers, and you

1020
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:54.319
know, we talked about everything from
Frogman Hillary Clinton's Adreno gream. So we've

1021
01:23:54.680 --> 01:24:00.119
you know, we've even ventured out
into conspiracy land. Do you want to

1022
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:08.520
tell folks the name of it.
It's global strangeness. It is not probably

1023
01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:15.119
not a good you know, if
you're strongly religious, you probably will not

1024
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:21.640
like it because we are drinking every
Sunday night and talking about most of the

1025
01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:25.840
time it's dumb stuff, you know. Every once in a while we'll go

1026
01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:33.399
into exorcisms and some stuff. But
even even the exorcisms, I don't I

1027
01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:39.800
don't know where you where you fall
on that, but like I've seen a

1028
01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:43.720
lot of these videos, and you
know, maybe there are some true exorcists

1029
01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:49.399
out there, but from everything I
can find, I'm not convinced. And

1030
01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:56.680
you know, to be fair,
the Muslim religion actually has a thousand times

1031
01:24:56.800 --> 01:25:03.560
more exorcisms than the Catholic Church to
yep. But yeah, I'm always trying

1032
01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:08.920
to debunk stuff. So I'm checking
into the Library of ale or the Library

1033
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:13.279
Congress. And I was gonna say, you got into the Library of Alexandria.

1034
01:25:13.359 --> 01:25:15.720
Well we we are, like I
said earlier, we are having that

1035
01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:26.119
lady who is pretty close with the
damn Now, was it the Knights of

1036
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:29.760
the Templar, the Knights of the
Templar. Yeah, and she's actually getting

1037
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:34.119
into the Vatican Church. So she
said she was going to take some pictures

1038
01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:39.199
and I would love to see the
fifteen miles of books they got down there.

1039
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:41.960
Boy, you're not kidding. I
could not imagine. And I'm sure

1040
01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:46.000
they got a little bit of gold
down there too, probably not that she

1041
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:51.920
will ever see the gold. Yeah. No, she speaks like seventeen languages.

1042
01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:56.159
To be honest with you, our
podcast is very small. I don't

1043
01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:00.840
know why she wants to come on
our podcast, but she does, and

1044
01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:05.479
when she does, like, I
would love to hear everything I can hear

1045
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:11.880
about that fifteen miles of bookshelves.
Absolutely. I think if you had three

1046
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:15.239
places that you could visit on a
daughter ray to just you know, go

1047
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:17.720
as you please for you know,
a week, I think most people would

1048
01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:20.039
choose that as one of their three, just to be able to look at

1049
01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:25.359
the knowledge that's down there. Of
course, I need a translator because I'm

1050
01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:29.119
sure most of the stuff is in
Latin. But yeah, no, I

1051
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:33.079
mean that's what I'm saying. She
speaks seventeen languages. I couldn't understand anything

1052
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:38.279
if any one of those books down
there, But if I was president,

1053
01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:43.520
that would be you know, first
on my priority is instead of going after

1054
01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:48.880
Afghanistan or Russia or any of this, I would go directly to the Vatican

1055
01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:56.680
to get those books because I,
like we talked off air, I believe

1056
01:26:57.199 --> 01:27:00.880
all of the Library of Alexandria is
down there. I think there's a lot

1057
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:05.680
of stuff that could help the human
race down I couldn't agree more. I'm

1058
01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:12.159
sure maybe there was, or maybe
maybe the fire of Alexandria was just another

1059
01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:16.399
conspiracy to make people think that all
that knowledge disappeared. I believe that.

1060
01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:24.000
Yeah, I didn't get rid of
all those books. Nobody burnt those books

1061
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:28.119
to the ground. They stole them, burned the building. Yep, another

1062
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:34.800
false flag going back two thousand years. But yeah, I don't know if

1063
01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:40.920
if anybody wants though listening, it's
you know, very casual, not put

1064
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:47.520
together, just a fun Sunday night
for random people on the internet. Sometimes,

1065
01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:50.560
you know, people like that to
decompress, Right, I do the

1066
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:53.479
same. I pull my head out
of the rabbit hole every now and then

1067
01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:57.760
too. You go crazy, Yeah, no, you do go crazy.

1068
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.399
And that's kind of why I wanted
to listen to your podcast, to be

1069
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:05.359
honest with you, because my you
know, my sister non religious flat earth

1070
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:11.640
or was going on about it,
and then years was the first one that

1071
01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:16.600
I stumbled across. And then you
start talking about all these other conspiracies that

1072
01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:21.159
I already believed in, and it's
just like, man, this is another

1073
01:28:21.399 --> 01:28:26.880
news shows. Yeah, and it's
okay. You know, we come on

1074
01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:30.000
and sometimes with folks we talk about
flat earth ten percent. Sometimes that's the

1075
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:34.479
entire podcast, and and that's okay
because I want people to learn different things,

1076
01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:40.640
you know, with That's why it's
so awesome to bring different people with

1077
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:45.319
different backgrounds and different views onto the
podcast. If you know that one thing

1078
01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:48.800
that you may learn from the podcast
could be that one dot that connects everything

1079
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:56.239
for you. Yeah, I guess
I listened to the first like twenty year

1080
01:28:57.279 --> 01:29:00.199
thirty of your episodes. You know, there was nothing on any of the

1081
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:08.279
other podcast just binged it all and
then you know, I probably listened to

1082
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:16.760
I don't know, two to four
a month. But yeah, it's just

1083
01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:21.039
too much news, too much information
going in my head. That's kind of

1084
01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:27.039
why I started the Paranormal podcast,
was, you know, I'd listen to

1085
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:30.520
that I didn't believe, but at
least it was not reality. I could

1086
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:34.479
kind of zone out. I'm working
eight to ten hours a day, six

1087
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:40.319
days a week, like I just
feel in my time, I'm alone all

1088
01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:47.479
day long, Like I just sometimes
you need to escape what's happening. Yeah,

1089
01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:50.279
we don't even have We don't watch
the news. We haven't watched the

1090
01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:56.239
news in years, because that's all
it is, is just MK ultra fearborn

1091
01:29:56.359 --> 01:30:00.720
beating you down twenty four seven,
three sixty five. Yeah. I listened

1092
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:10.199
to all the controlled opposition all day
long, or I'll even get to Bill

1093
01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:16.640
Maher. I just build my head
while I'm mindlessly assembling stuff doing whatever else

1094
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:21.560
I'm doing. That's awesome, Well
man, it's been it's been an awesome

1095
01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:29.479
ninety minutes. And I'll definitely check
out your podcast and really intrigued with your

1096
01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:33.000
your curbside chronicles where you're you're literally
the man on the street asking people questions.

1097
01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:40.520
And again the links to uh Scott's
TikTok and YouTube channels will be in

1098
01:30:40.600 --> 01:30:45.279
the show description. Check out his
Man on the Street interviews, and if

1099
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:50.399
you live in Utah, I will
have u We're just how can people reach

1100
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:56.800
out to you. I mean,
they can reach out to me on Well,

1101
01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:00.840
now YouTube doesn't always tell me the
comment, so I'll drop the It's

1102
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:06.520
Scott dot eight six dot hey at
gmail dot com. You can email me.

1103
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:11.039
I'm not very good with the email, but yeah, I would like

1104
01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:16.600
to test the mathematics of this.
So you can reach out to him on

1105
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:19.680
TikTok or you can email him and
I'll put that in the show description as

1106
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:23.560
well, And that would be great. And if if people link up with

1107
01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:25.800
you and you're able to pull that
off. I think Dan who was on

1108
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:29.760
about a month ago, he lives
in Utah, I believe, and I

1109
01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:31.680
know there's a lot of people who
would probably love to do that. And

1110
01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:34.119
then if you are able to pull
it off, we'd love to have you

1111
01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:39.159
back on the show with the results. Yeah. No, I mean,

1112
01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:45.079
if I can pull it off,
i'd be you know for sure. Absolutely.

1113
01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:48.479
Well, that's awesome as we uh
part ways. Is there anything else

1114
01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:54.760
that you'd like to say to the
audience. Uh? No, thanks for

1115
01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:58.840
having me on. Thank you guys
for listening. It was fun, a

1116
01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:00.039
lot of fun. It was a
lot of fun, and I appreciate you

1117
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:03.239
taking the time out of your schedule. To join us tonight and thank you

1118
01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:06.640
all the listeners for your continued support. Again, if you'd like to join

1119
01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:10.840
the show like Scott did this evening, please reach out to us at the

1120
01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:15.439
Flat Earth Files at gmail dot com. And for Scott, I'm George God

1121
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:18.720
bless everyone. You have a great
rest of your week and until the next

1122
01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:20.680
time we meet, we will see