1 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:07,360 And we are back. So well, let me pull the topics here. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,199 She Hulk season two not happening, which ties into what I was just talking 3 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:17,920 about with Brendan Chris. As far as the warm, she'd be in a 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,239 fake movie Tatiana and Maceloni. Now this could be joking. She was at 5 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:26,559 the MS. He asked what she hulks. Oh, no, I'm paraphrasing, 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,320 but pretty much no. No, we broke the budget. They haven't 7 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:31,600 asked us back. I think they said, don't thank you. I hit 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,960 on a few things she actually did say, but I think it was word 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,000 differently. Now you could just it could be tongue in cheek. It could 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,600 because of an expensive show, but I think it is a they haven't got 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,079 a call like I do. Think this is someone revealing the truth in like 12 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:46,840 a jokey way. She still got to do it. She still will be 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,159 around the same way as I think she will be around, at least because 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,399 it's like the same way as like Incredible Hulk. The movie did not do 15 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,799 well, but Hulk was still part of the venders around a bunch, right, 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,960 And that's the question of do we see her again? I think we 17 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:00,960 will. I don't think she's gone forever. But I do think it's like 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,000 a potential small rule. I don't know if she's an Avenger or not. 19 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:10,280 Again, I would very much like to know who the fuck the Avengers are, 20 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:12,120 but we will not know for a while. Maybe they're gonna keep a 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,599 secret to the goddamn first trailer. I don't know. Of course, we 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,159 got the set picture, so that won't happen. But I think this is 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,680 where we've seen if this is true, and let's just go with this right, 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,319 because there were reports that it was happening, but if you got her 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,359 saying, it's probably not what's happening. And that's where I was talking about 26 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:34,439 this on vodka stream last week, where I know it was Andy he you 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,000 know, and I like Andy Lott. He's a good guy, and uh 28 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:41,480 and I get why, especially you know, he talks about for multiple reasons 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 on vodka stream, why he fights for diverse films like Blue Beetle and you 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,239 know, Miss Marvel and stuff. And I can't remember he said some comment 31 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:53,040 of like because I think I was talking about Thor because you know, Wipilon 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,599 stream don't like Thor Love and Thunder, And I was like, Okay, 33 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:59,319 what do you make thor five or anything Captain Marvel adjacent, whether it be 34 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:02,079 Miss Marvel, and it's like whatever you think, you may love Kamala Khan, 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,000 but like you go with four or five because we just looked at it, 36 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:08,879 right, seven hundred and sixty million, that's like not a sure guarantee 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,680 bet, but much better than Miss Marvel and Captain Marvel if And this is 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,599 why I'm talking about this, right, So let's go with the opinion that 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,840 this is could put this is a true story that hey, no, no, 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,199 she halked too. Then I do start to worry because a lot of 41 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:25,599 those reports when we heard them in the earlier year when they were like ce 42 00:02:25,759 --> 00:02:29,360 C plus Scoopers, but I was like, oh, they're planning doing Miss 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,159 Marvel season two. She Hulks season two and Moonnight season two are a project 44 00:02:32,159 --> 00:02:36,879 of Moonnight, And if she Hulks down off the tables, to me, 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,599 that could be a lot of those things off the tables. And that's where 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,319 for me it's like, what are those shows like we talked about that could 47 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:51,360 come back that are maybe gone now Moonnight I think is best to do kind 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,159 of how I pitched a ghost writer do a Hulk scenario with them now. 49 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:58,080 I'd love a season two. I'd love to get more with Jake Lockley. 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,240 I didn't. That's definitely one of my more disappointments. Fuck, it just 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,000 sucks that I have a Moonnight in the MCU and I'm just so like man, 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,759 you know, like I sometimes forget it exists. And it was my 53 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:09,879 fucking pick too, Like Oscar Isaac was like the guy I said. It 54 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:13,439 was perfect for the role, and there's some episode things in there that are 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,879 great for me. It's just so mad and they missed a lot of the 56 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:20,759 they missed the they missed the target on a lot of the things that make 57 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Moonnight great. I think a lot of people grieve me on that one. 58 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:27,439 And that's where I think that because it almost was like a Marvel Spotlight where 59 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:30,199 you could watch it by itself. I think you could just forget about the 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,840 character for a while, wait till you do minute Night SNS or something like 61 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,400 that. Bring him there. I don't need them on the Avengers. I 62 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:38,400 feel like the only reason he'd be on the Avengers is like why Jay Law 63 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,840 was such a big roles mystique because it's Oscar eyes like, which I do 64 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,360 get, but like, I don't think that's a fit right now, saving 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,879 for something else or don't return to him, which is sad for me, 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,560 but put him one if put him on some Ani made stuff. So I 67 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:54,400 think Moonnight just because that reason could very much happen Miss Marvel. It's tough 68 00:03:54,479 --> 00:03:58,919 now with Miss Marvel. I don't know what the budget was. She all 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,240 got a budget of two hundred twenty five million reported, which means it could 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:08,159 be more. Oh that's why it's like, what profit were you expecting to 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,360 get? And that's what we've seen with these shows, right, They've all 72 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:14,400 gone down as far as the ratings, whether it's Soomba or whether it's actually 73 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,480 Disney reporting them same way. Disney like report the numbers for the first few 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,759 days of Loki and that was lower than Mandal or lower than Loki Season one, 75 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,879 right, So like the numbers are going down. People are caring less 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,160 and less about these superhero projects. So that's where to me that that money 77 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,879 is not in Disney Plus anymore. We've talked about the Tomorrow Alliance. I 78 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:36,160 think Brenton Chris, you know, just said the Pzecho they just reviewed it. 79 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,680 Go check out their review because they have much more positive one than ours. 80 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:43,720 Unfortunately, unfortunately we didn't like it. Not saying that they liked it. 81 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:45,639 Those sons a bitch, just how could they like them aut No, 82 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,319 I'm just saying unfortunately, I think we all would have preferred us to really 83 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:51,079 enjoy it, and I don't think any of us did. But I think 84 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,839 Disney Plus shows are going to go that way more where it's echo where I 85 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:58,040 don't think that was a large budget. I think that might be part of 86 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:00,920 the reason why they made Netflix Cannons, which Vincent and Offer just said like 87 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:04,360 that was a recent thing that happened after the overhaul, that it wasn't gonna 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,879 be cannon, but they decided to change it up. That could be a 89 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:11,040 way where you bring in more stuff from those shows to make more street level, 90 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:15,639 cheaper shows, you know, because right now we really like, let's 91 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:18,399 take a look, and I might have to ask this, I might have 92 00:05:18,439 --> 00:05:23,079 to say this for Marble Alliance too. Let's see Disney PLU, let's see 93 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:29,439 MCU TV shows because other than not talk about the anime stuff, cause the 94 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:31,959 anime stuff that's easier to talk, easier budget wise. Right for the most 95 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,720 part, there's not really any shows that are cooking right now that we know 96 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,920 about right, the shows that were cooking were rumored or delayed, so you 97 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,759 got fuck just go down there. Here we go. So the rumor like 98 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,800 a Moon Night season two, Miss Marvel season two, show season two, 99 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,480 she all season two, let's say that's off the books. I think Moon 100 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,519 Night season two could be off the books Miss marveled. That's what my point 101 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,160 is getting get to is at the budget cheaper, which I don't think there 102 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,839 was any big stars in there, and the effects definitely looked a little cheap 103 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:06,879 or rushed, and they probably did with those fecturists. Oh man, did 104 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,040 I okay? Good? I just gotta pluck at my laptop. See, 105 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:15,879 it's almost dying to me if it's cheap, if it's like the Netflix Echo 106 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:18,399 route, maybe a little higher than you could do Miss Marvel season two. 107 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:24,560 And that's where yeah, season one lowest rated Disney Plus show, the Marvel's 108 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:28,519 movie, lowest box office for our Marvel film, right if not at second 109 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,720 lowest, you can't really justify if it's a bigger movie to do, or 110 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,079 if it's a bigger budget sorry to do a Miss Marvel season two. You 111 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,360 can't throw in projects like Hulk. Put her around. Don't get rid of 112 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,199 Kamala Kon. I'm on is one of the best things that's happened to them. 113 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,120 So especially in this phase when they need some wins, you need to 114 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,199 keep her around. But as a season two, if it's like more expensive, 115 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,240 no Phase five, we're not gonna get a secret invasion. Loki seems 116 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,040 to be done. So here's the thing. Okay, so there is one 117 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,680 other one that is start a film a couple of weeks ago, right, 118 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,879 and I think it's at the smaller So again, take out the animated stuff. 119 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,360 We have iron Hard and Agatha, which were what I was talking about 120 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:12,480 in mar Alliance or I trailed off. We talk about how we all agree 121 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,519 with this era, with the Phase four and a little bit of Phase five. 122 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:20,439 There are shows and projects that got greenlit that wouldn't get green light now, 123 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:23,800 you know, and even in the past when it got green light, 124 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:28,160 but they came off the height of top shit taking down an Avatar Endgame and 125 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:30,879 then No Way Home and having some big hits even Invade even twenty twenty two. 126 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:33,959 Right now they're on the backstep. Now, they've had some flops, 127 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,199 they've had they're in the red for just certain projects. That's where you gotta 128 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,720 go, Okay, we gotta be more picky. So that's where iron Hard 129 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,680 and Agatha I think those are just their one off one and done. Maybe 130 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,120 you'll see those characters again in the future, who knows. But you don't 131 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,399 get other seasons. Daredevil that's being reworked, and I think that it will 132 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:53,519 be still on the cheaper side. Bed's being reworked. The only one that's 133 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,319 filming and we for sure know about is wonder Man. Obviously there was war 134 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Machine that got moved into a movie, but I still don't think. I 135 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,639 just don't see a profit in that unless there is an ace in the hole, 136 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,959 unless there is a massive change, unless there is a and guess who's 137 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,680 coming back rubber down in JR. Oh my god, that's Robbert. Like 138 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:16,439 no, no, no, Like that's the only way I see war Machine 139 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,399 happening. Unless it's a very reduced budget too. That's always saying if it's 140 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:24,560 like one hundred, maybe one hundred and fifty, maybe even one hundred and 141 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,759 fifty. To me's pushing it because I could see, like, let's see 142 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:28,920 what the let me just see what the Marvels box office, right now the 143 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:37,840 Marvels box office do do Do Do Do Do Do Do? There's company too, 144 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:43,120 m great show, right, Okay, Marble's fund box office right now? 145 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,279 Look at two o six in my opinion, the Marvels, which has 146 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,759 pre Larson, who to me is the bigger starting Dawn Chield like kind of 147 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:54,039 overall uh, and then you have all these other characters who got Nick Fury 148 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,840 and it's a sequel to the billion dollar film, the biggest female superho film 149 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:05,519 all time. Kept Marble that bombed. It made eight hundred million less than 150 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,960 the than Captain Marble. You're telling me that war machine, which I don't 151 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,759 think has the same backing and resume that those people do, and especially to 152 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:18,720 me coming from the lowest potentially, if they stick with that whole scrawl shit, 153 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,639 even if that movie is one hundred and fifty, it would not break 154 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,080 even. Even if it was a hundred, it would just probably just break 155 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:31,799 even, maybe lose money. You can't tell me that's happening. And I 156 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,720 think that was smart, And if it is happening, then yeah, they 157 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,440 were smart to make it a movie instead of a show because maybe make more 158 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,240 of a profit. But wonder man, that did start film a couple weeks 159 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:43,240 ago, and from the rumor plot of it, it sounds pretty low key 160 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:46,600 like there won't be much of a big budget to it, probably just the 161 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,320 actors in some set, you know, production pay of the crew. I'm 162 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:52,480 underplaying it, of course, but it doesn't sound like this is gonna be 163 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,399 a two hundred and twenty five million show, right. So after that, 164 00:09:56,799 --> 00:10:00,600 there's a rumor of the Nova show in development. No, oh, that's 165 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:03,639 not gonna happen. Not a TV not a Disney Plus show. You can't 166 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:07,159 make that cheap. And then Vision Quest. I don't know what visions effects 167 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,320 cost. I don't know what Paul Benny coss, but I don't know how 168 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,240 much time and resources it would cost. I think if that's not out of 169 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:18,679 the realm of possibility, like being just super expensive, I could see that, 170 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,960 because that's just a bunch of other robots like Vision. As long as 171 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,919 it's not him stopping a world ending threat, that's a possibility. But really 172 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,879 we don't have that far out where. I feel like, for a while 173 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:31,200 we are always knowing two years of a mant so what we were getting right 174 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,840 now, we just know just this year. Because you can say dared evil 175 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:39,279 but we don't got a date, Like it's hopefully next year and I think 176 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,360 it will be, but we don't sell have a date, right. So 177 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,120 that's where it's like a lot of these shows we've seen that they're gonna pull 178 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:50,960 back on projects in general, and I think that's the shows are really really 179 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,600 gonna get hurt. And that's where I think it's gonna fuck them a little 180 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,519 bit. And that's where I am in the camp where I do think they 181 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:58,559 need to reboot after Secret Wars because those shows also cause them to create too 182 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:05,559 many care because let's say, take out the shows, right, So let's 183 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:11,559 see here. Okay, So take out Hawkeye, you don't get Kate Bishop, 184 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,840 take a moon Night, you don't get Moonnight. Take out Miss Marvel, 185 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,039 you don't get Miss Marvel. Take out Chahawk, you don't get Chiahak. 186 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,960 Take out See Your Invasion. You don't get Guya. I'll just say 187 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,559 guy, but that's about it. Take out Echo you don't get Echo, 188 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:24,519 and even Hawke, I guess you don't get that, so Echo right there? 189 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,960 Okay, even Wana Vision you don't get Agatha. Uh. And that's 190 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,120 about it, because Ironheart you would have got with a black Panther. So 191 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,840 other than the characters like Loki and stuff, that was about seven characters that 192 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,159 I listened that came directly from the TV shows, right, and that is 193 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,480 a part of a problem where we, you know, always say here who 194 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,840 are they? Then just but also everyone's problem. My problem was never I 195 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,720 think people misconstrued their issue. I'm not trying to speak for people, but 196 00:11:52,759 --> 00:11:56,360 the idea of where is the MC going, They're they're clearly going to the 197 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:01,000 multiverse Secret Wars War. Like they lay it out, whether you don't like 198 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,559 it or just don't understand it. The first episode of low Ki's like, 199 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,519 look at this multiverse war. It would suck if that happen again. Ay, 200 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,840 It's like I was winking earlier in this cast talking about a certain topic 201 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,399 about making a certain fan film that would be a film now if public domain 202 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,519 happens, which it sounds like it is. It's me just laying out, 203 00:12:16,519 --> 00:12:20,519 like, hey, what I would like to do if the stars aligned right, 204 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,519 say in the air, it's like, look at this cheat, this 205 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,919 is where we're going. Kang in the finale says see you real soon. 206 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,159 Oh, by the way, there's thousands of me and they're gonna come get 207 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:33,600 you, and everyone's like, where is the cinematic universe going? I don't 208 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:39,720 understand, ay a fucking yai. But there were points of and I'm not 209 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:43,559 with the whole Eternals, like where's the statue? Why is it not? 210 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:46,360 Why isn't the sky? They haven't answered that? Well, couldn't you also 211 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,000 just say that they might answer that in Eternals two? We haven't got that, 212 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:50,080 and we are getting that answer. It's supposed to being capped for. 213 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,120 But still that's not the stuff for me. It is the big time stuff, 214 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,120 like, yeah, Avengers, that's a pretty big deal. Where have 215 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,000 they been? Who are they? When we get adventures? What's the life? 216 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,679 Right? I know people might argue, well, with Avengers one, 217 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:05,600 we didn't really know the lineup officially. We knew those films, we didn't 218 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,720 know the official lineup. Yeah, sure, true, But like that's Phase 219 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,840 fucking one. We're Phase five. They know better, we know better, 220 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,159 smart enough. But the other problem that I had, my biggest thing is 221 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,440 yeah, who are the Avengers? And the other thing that a lot of 222 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,120 people were bringing up, which I didn't have an issue with in phase four, 223 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:24,039 but as we went on and I saw more projects, I do now 224 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:28,679 where are all these characters? Disney Plus made too many shows and too many 225 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,360 issues and even the extended films right there, there's too many characters. Now 226 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,440 we haven't seen sung cheap, we have seen eternals. I think that, 227 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,159 like I said, I bring this the whole time. There's like nineteen projects 228 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,960 since Captain America has become Sam Wilson. That is not right. He is 229 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:45,799 Captain America. He should be all over the fucking place. He's the leader. 230 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,399 We saw. We fucking saw a cat like Chris Evans like a year 231 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,600 after and thord Ark World like, even though it was like a fun cameo, 232 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,240 still we still saw him. And then we got that movie not far 233 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:00,360 after. The menas too, like the Disney Plus shows, they the same 234 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,679 thing when we're gonna see Yahya's wonder Man, right like, they create too 235 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,080 much. And that's where I almost would be more fine with if they were 236 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:11,279 too And that's why I don't like it being like a Cliffhanger but with an 237 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,679 even echo, but echo Moon Night. If they were say, hey, 238 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,679 we're gonna do some stuff and this is not going to connect. I know 239 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,600 you want everything to connect, but this is just gonna be a one off, 240 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,960 uh do that you know, have some like Moonnight the comic book when 241 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,399 it came back, the Jeff Lemir run, it wasn't this big connecting crossover 242 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,960 one. It was a solo story do that people. Of course there were 243 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,759 some connections, but people fell in love with the Netflix stuff because of those 244 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:37,960 characters, not because oh I can't wait to see my advantagers. That was 245 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,279 of course like a cool bonus if it happened. But as long as the 246 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,720 shows are somewhat of quality and have something unique about them or something that will 247 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,799 pull people in, you got it made. So that's where I think you'll 248 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:56,759 see less things, so we'll see supervid. Mike says. It's missing the 249 00:14:56,759 --> 00:15:01,440 fun and seeing all the characters get together for friendships, bonds, and that 250 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:05,080 was the Avenger movies. That's what the Avenger movies brought absolutely, and that's 251 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,679 where for me it's like it's it's tough, right because we kind of know 252 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:15,159 Secret Wars is probably going to be you know a lot of returning people. 253 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:18,600 Hugh Jack, Manitoba and Andrew. I'm not saying no to that, Like 254 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,519 I'm not like, are we sacrificing that? Sure, but it's something We've 255 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,559 talked about one hundred times now, and I'll just say it for anyone that's 256 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:31,080 new, they should have done an Avengers film that was a lowkey threat. 257 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:35,519 Not Loki, but Masters of Evil Boom, an Alltron type of person, 258 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:39,240 come back annihilis. So they just beat them, beat them off, They 259 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:41,840 beat them, and off their way they go, and then here we go, 260 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:45,759 we're all together the same way as we talked about before. I brought 261 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:46,720 this up on I bring this up on all the time because that's the I 262 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,279 think I brought up on Voku String because someone said something, and here I 263 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,000 bring up all the time. Where Avengers Phase one there were little connections, 264 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,120 but other than Ironman twich did have a lot of like alluding to stuff. 265 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:02,440 It was just there's Thor's hammer an any credit scene, there's Captain America shield 266 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,720 and oh he gets an end credit trailer. Oh there's iro An incredible Hulk. 267 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:10,639 IRONN two definitely was the extent to that, but even then it wasn't. 268 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:14,080 I don't think it was as bad as now where it just feels like, 269 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,360 okay, there is so much, how does this all connect? That 270 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:21,039 was literally just hey, Loki came to Earth and for some reason, they 271 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:25,399 all got entangled. Now I think they wanted maybe that's their idea to do 272 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,480 that with the Avengers, and I'm down with that. Right. Let's say, 273 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,879 okay, it is the Masters of Emo. Barrion's Emo's leading a team 274 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:37,279 and they connect Carol, Sam, you know whatever, Scott Lang or whatever 275 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:42,759 the reason is. But it's weird for the team to connect to be Kang, 276 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:47,799 which is to me, that's where I missed. We've always heard these 277 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:51,799 rumored plots, but that's where I worried that, like the Avengers film, 278 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,360 the Secret Wars or sorry, King Dynasty was gonna be like in Finny Warren 279 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,200 Endgame, where okay, it's our veterestcene, but it's it's really like Msue 280 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,440 the movie, right, And I feel like they feel like, well, 281 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,160 now, the Avengers always has to be Msue the movie. We gotta have 282 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,799 all these characters and that's not the case. We should have found something and 283 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:11,240 that was the fun of the connected universe stuff. To me, it was 284 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:15,400 not the lore was not the Easter eggs. It's not that it was like, 285 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,720 oh cool, these characters connected, although the other stuff is bonus and 286 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:21,920 it's great, right, It's fantastic when there was a well O machine. 287 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,279 We loved everything. I'll take it all. But at the end of the 288 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,880 day, it was the party scene in Age of Ultron where they're getting drunk 289 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,720 trying to pick up Thorpe's hammer. You know, it's Sharma. It's when 290 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,279 they're at Avengers Compound endgame when they fucking lost and it's like they have all 291 00:17:36,279 --> 00:17:38,960 these connections and what do they do? And I lost the kid and were's 292 00:17:40,079 --> 00:17:44,359 Pepper. It's five years later when Tony Stark says, hey, I don't 293 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,200 want to talk shop, but you can stay for dinner. I have my 294 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,960 ending here, cap I made my second chance, Like we're not gonna get 295 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,680 that with these and I think they almost felt like, because these characters were 296 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,880 already in the MCU, well, we don't got to get them together. 297 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,240 They can just be boom Kang nasty and here's thes and maybe there could have 298 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,000 maybe it will open up and just say, hey, by the way, 299 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:08,880 for the past five years we've been the Avengers, and I guess, but 300 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,079 it just feels so empty and hollow, which a lot of things have felt 301 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,799 in Phase five. I push back. In Phase four, I had a 302 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:18,519 lot of fun in Phase four. That's I probably might say my second favorite 303 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:22,880 face stuff. Revisiting Phase one has made me really enjoy some of that stuff 304 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,279 again, so it's a toss up there. Phase two is definitely bottom for 305 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:32,359 me, but oh no sorry, Phase five is fucking foh whoa bottom? 306 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,240 So what does that say for these other shows? I think it's like those 307 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,000 season twos are dead. I think lots of development. Like Vision Quest, 308 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:44,079 they will wave them in and I think it will be more a once a 309 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,119 year sort of thing. Obviously, Ironheart and Agatha are in the can the 310 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,960 can or in the can, so maybe like you get Agatha, maybe next 311 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:55,480 year you get like iron Heart and Daredevil, and then you get like wonder 312 00:18:55,519 --> 00:18:57,640 Man. Right, the animated fair to me, I'm so fine with that. 313 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:00,640 As long as they see an enough of a return investment. It's never 314 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,920 gonna blow up unless they make a Pixar like movie. But for me, 315 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,480 it's like that's the stuff where I really enjoy. I know some people, 316 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:11,200 you know, like Brent, always like you prefer live action animated, And 317 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,519 I'm not saying they have to make the cannon stuff animated, but like, 318 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:18,920 if you got to save your budget, make stuff like friendlies, neighborhood spider 319 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Man, make model zombies, make you know more what ifs? May you 320 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,799 know, just go buck wild on that stuff. Give me a Howard the 321 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,160 Duck show, you know like that. That's where it's like you can go 322 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,079 back to just maybe doing one show and then a couple movies. It's and 323 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,559 I hope that's what they're going to. So we will see. Let's take 324 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:44,119 probably our last ad break, and then we'll be right back with some trailers 325 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,000 and some other movie news like Fast and Furious and everything, so we'll be right back