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You're listening to KFI AM six forty
on demand. I wanted to talk a

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little bit more about marriage because that
comes up a lot that marriage is difficult.

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On its face, it's difficult to
bring two people together to build a

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structure of equality and productivity and still
getting everything you need, but giving everything

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they need and finding that balance is
difficult in the best of circumstances. When

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you mix and mingle faiths, that's
another possibility, another opening of vulnerability where

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there can be problems, and it's
not the things in scripture that point you

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to or away from something are there
for your own protection and guidance. Now

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there are things that are absolute and
it doesn't change the scripture. Sys this

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is the way it should be done, and that's the way it should be

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done. And stop arguing. But
there are areas gray areas. There are

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areas where you have to use your
discernment, which seems to be a recurring

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theme today. You have to use
your discernment to process those things and make

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the best decision for you in context, for you and your life, for

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what you're going through. And you've
got to keep those things in mind.

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And so when you're getting involved with
somebody. You've got to think not just

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about the love and the emotion part, but you've got to have the balance

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between the subjective and the objective and
understand what you're going through and why you're

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going through it, and make the
best decision for both of you, not

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just for you. Age differences,
emotional difference, all these things play a

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factor and can be later problems.
Sharon, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Hello, Hi Sharon, how can
I help you? Hi? Well,

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I was speaking with your call screener
and I told her that I'm interested

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in your comments about Psalm twenty three. The reason I'm asking is because I

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just read a book it was written
in the thirties and published in the fifties

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called I Shall Not Want by Robert
Ketchum. These are books that seemed to

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me to be totally out of touch
with Christians today and not books that are

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read by Christians. But when I
read that, I realized, you know,

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we seem to be lacking a real
depth of not only understanding, but

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relationship with Jesus based on a deeper
just a deeper understanding of what His purpose

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for us is today. And Psalm
twenty three explains how he's not just our

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We understand who he is as our
savior, but very few Christians know who

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he is as their shepherd and for
daily life, and that so we live

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in this second realm of the physical
almost as Christians. So I wanted to

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know whether you've ever either focused on
Palm twenty three and the deeper meaning of

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it yourself, and would care to
comment. In addition, would you care

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to comment on I am curious about
how you see Savior well, a shepherd

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salvation, okay, and my savior
for salvation as if God came in the

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flesh. Yes, And all I
was doing was was was simply dying so

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that everyone gets saved, and then
I have nothing to do with anyone,

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right? Is that what it comes
down to. That's what I believe most

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Christians look at and as a savior. They're very glad, you know,

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they look at Psalm twenty three is
the Lord is my shepherd, and I'm

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glad he is. I think it's
a legitimate concern, Sharon, but I

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don't know that it's an honest one. I think that many many Christians have

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the understanding that the that Christ and
the anointed one, using that term that

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I was here for more than just
the salvation. That there is a relationship

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at hand. That relationship can't mean
anything unless there's interaction. If there isn't

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any interaction, if that's the true
concern, there would be a problem.

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But Psalm twenty three is a wonderful
look at that relationship. As a matter

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of fact, you have the psalmist
here in this case David reflecting about the

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concept of a shepherd and the things
that it brings nourishment and leading to spiritual

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restoration. These imagery, imagery here
of waters, the placid waters, and

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these types of things are very much
about that powerful image of the Savior being

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someone who is interactive in your life, should you let him. If you

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remember, the door is locked from
the inside, I will not gone it,

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but you have to open it.
Open it. And I'm not sure

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that I agree that a lot of
Christians are out of touch with that.

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I think they wrestle with it,
and I think that's common and normal to

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wrestle with that relationship part and understanding
it in the physical realm. But certainly

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Christians call here all the time and
you'll hear them speak about the things that

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they've gone through and how the Lord
provides, and God has brought them through

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something that's a that's a great understanding, and I don't think it's lost on

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believers. The Last Call was so
beautiful in its sentiment that I wanted to

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although I disagree that the majority of
Christians have left that, I'm not sure

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that that's what she was exactly saying. The sentiment itself, I thought was

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very sweet and important. So rather
than I want to take your call,

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so so hangtight, but I wanted
to look at at Psalm twenty three before,

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which we have on the air a
good number of times. But in

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light of her call, I think
to appreciate that, to remember how many

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times throughout scripture you have the term
a good shepherd, John ten, the

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Great Shepherd Hebrews thirteen, A chief
shepherd one Peter five to four. It's

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very important that imagery of the shepherd
and the usage is specific, and it's

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one that's given a lot throughout scripture, that the imagery of the shepherd,

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and David chooses it specifically because of
all the dangers in his life that he

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negotiated around because of God as his
shepherd, that loving kindness, that protection,

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all those things that restored him not
only in his physical life around trouble,

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but also more importantly, into full
communion with God. So as much

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as it's important to understand the salvation
nature of why I came and why I

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died on the cross, hey,
you get that, but to understand that

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one, you're dealing with the negotiation
through life and the sharp corners. As

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my producer Neil says, all the
time, the world is not nerfed.

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You can't nerve the world. There's
sharp corners. You're gonna get nocks and

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pings in life. But in this
particular case in Psalm twenty three, you

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see the beauty of the balance between
both of those things because it talks about

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the shadow of death. So that's
the salvation. That's true salvation, making

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death now just a shadow. It's
not even something substantive. It's just something

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that looks like there's something substantive there. So death is now not something tangible

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or something real, it's just a
shadow. That's salvation that's about eternal life.

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But also it talks about the waters
and the restoration and the things that

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are going on in this world as
well. That these things being understood.

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The raw the staff about the word
of God leading you as well. And

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there's a great beauty in that.
And I would hate to think that it

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is lost on people. I don't
think it is. I think it's there.

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But absolutely echo the color sentiment in
the fact that it's important to understand

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that God is not just your savior. That I didn't just come die on

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the cross for salvation only, but
for the process of having that good shepherd

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in your life today to help guide
you. Should you listen and not rebel

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as many people do, but to
but to actually let God lead you in

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life is a very very important thing. Tim. Welcome to Jesus Christ Show.

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Hi Jesus, Hi Tim. How
are you doing well? Sir?

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I'm very very well. Thank you
for asking, how are you? I'm

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good, actually better than I deserve. Okay, fair enough. My question

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is about free will. I don't
believe in free will. I believe from

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the day born today die, every
single second has already been predetermined. And

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the reason second is because it's in
the Bible. You guys, you haven't

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written this with God's will, just
what God has, This is what God

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has in plant for me. And
I think Lippyan's it says it also about

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God already has it predetermined. Why
does it say we have free will when

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something already predetermined. Well, God
predetermines every possible outcome or the possibility of

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that outcome, but the outcome is
still chosen by you. And there's a

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difference between the two. For instance, God doesn't cause you to sin,

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so that that outcome is not even
something God would do, So that that

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comes from your desire or your own
free will and ability to choose that.

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Now God, yes, fid,
and he just said, now you're saying,

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God doesn't have us, Joes,
we choose Adam. Adam and Eve

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were not born with sin. Adam
and Eve partook in sin, therefore creating

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that an option through their experience,
and that is passed down through the bloodline.

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Yes, that rebellion has passed down
through the bloodline. But think of

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it this way, and this might
be easier, tim. Think of it

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this way that if if you went
to you know, Joe's House of Pies

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and there's one hundred pies there for
you to choose from, well, Joe's

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House of Pie is created. All
the options there for you to choose,

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every single pie, butter cream,
banana cream, apple pie, pumpkin,

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pie, cherry pie, you know, fried shrimp boiled, and that's something

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completely different. So all those options
created by that place. But when you

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go in and you make a choice
of which one you want, you make

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a choice of which pie you want
to sit down and eat, and then

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you buy it and you bring it
to the table and you sit down and

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you eat said pie, that's your
choice. That's a free choice. No

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one forced you to buy a particular
pie. And you may be forced by

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the fact that you have only one
hundred choices rather than two, But all

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you need is two options for an
honest choice in limitation, by the way,

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all analogies break down. I don't
want people to get confused. But

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so in that particular case, you
do have the option of choice, and

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you're choosing, and that choice is
free. And just because God knows what

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choice you will make or how an
outcome may come, doesn't mean that he

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forces that particular hand. You most
certainly have free will. Mister ed Welcome

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to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi. I've been asked to do a presentation

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on the best way to play the
Bible for some high school and senior students

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and some college students who are way
to read the Bible. Study the Bible.

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Okay, they're going to be doing
summer ministry throughout the Pacific Northwest.

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Any thoughts on that. Wow,
to study the entire Bible, well,

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no, this week? To study
a passage of scripture for example, Okay,

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Well, the good thing is that
all of it's good, you know.

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Two Timothy three point sixteen makes it
very clear when it says all scripture

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is inspired by God and profitable for
teaching, for reproof, for correction,

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for training, and righteousness. So
you're you're good that that it's all therefore

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your teaching. But it I think
that there's always places to start in the

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in the effects of things that I
did in scripture. For instance, if

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people see things as just instances,
well, okay, the death and the

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cross and there was this, But
to see them as they have fluidity and

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tie into one another, I think
is beauty. Something called the hermonutics of

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scripture as well as something that I
think as often left off the table when

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teaching about the Scripture and seeing how
it all does tie together and why that

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statement in two Timothy is true because
it ties in together. But if you

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look at the things that took place
in scripture. The understanding that there is

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a beginning, middle, and end
to all things in context of scripture is

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always beautiful. Kind of that gath
simone cavalry and empty tomb. That God

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never leaves you hanging in the middle
somewhere is a wonderful lesson to learn if

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you're going to take scripture out,
because a lot of people will come up

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against opposition or confusion or frustration.
And to know that God is a god

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of beginning, middle, and ending, when oftentimes it seems like God leaves

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you in the center of something,
is very powerful. Is there a particular

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direction that you're feeling led to move
yourself, like a place to start something

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that's meant some that you or kind
of opened your eyes to something else?

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Well, I you know, for
example, I'm going through Proverbs, so

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I'll just take behalf of the proverb. I read it through several times and

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ask God to show me what it
is he wants for me to take the

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takeaway. And then I'll say,
Okay, here's some of the high points

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here and this is the takeaway,
and this this is what I need to

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do. How do I apply it
to my life? And that's why I'm

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trying to that's what we want to
share with these young people. How do

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you take that of scripture that you're
reading and make an application that's excellent.

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The thing that I will caution you
about is and this happens in Proverbs quite

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a bit, And we used Proverbs
on the program a lot because of the

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fact that it's almost like, if
you imagine a highway of Christian cars with

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bumper stickers, that's kind of what
Proverbs seems like. It's just a whole

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bunch of bumper stickers passing by that
you can quote simply, and it seems

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to get the point across, doesn't
it come across that way a little bit?

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There's all these like little, very
simple things that you can remember.

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So if you're learning to memorize scripture, Proverbs is a really great place to

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start one because there's some rehashing and
similar themes and statements that are made,

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but also because they seem kind of
bite size. They already seem to be

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parsed into these little, you know, a little nut size to shape,

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completely consumable, not a problem in
a nutshell done, But the rest of

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scripture seems to be difficult for people
to dive into because there's stories that go

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along with them, and it's not
just people tend to like the scriptures.

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You can pull out of context and
just say, look, this is what

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it says, and they're nice,
They're easy to teach that way. So

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as much as I encourage that in
going through the books, I think the

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way you are doing it is the
smart way. Read something and then think

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how does that apply to me?
But look not only at the words written,

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try it and good study bibles have
this obviously. Online you can find

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stuff like this, find the context
of what was going on or why that

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particular word was used. That always
brings more light to the scripture than if

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you just read it and go,
wow, well it's part of that made

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sense. Or for instance, if
you go to the Old Testament and you

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start reading, there's parts where it's
like so and so beget so and so,

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and you read that and you go, Okay, I've got to read

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this because it's the word of God
and God says that it's important it's in

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there, But what does that mean? A lot of people don't understand the

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background behind those names and the importance
of them being written down in the importance

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of the context so I would say, always push them towards the context.

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First, read what was said,
Understand what was said. Now, understand

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what was said in context, what
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that context that it used those particular
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it apply to now? Is there
a similar situation? Now? How does

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it apply to what I'm going through
in life? That those are the things

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that I love when people do and
you find out, you know, how

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it goes with the harmony of the
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But first what it says, why
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it in context, and what it
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life. I think is a good
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part of scripture. Last question,
last question, Yes, where's the best

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place to find that understanding and context? I mean, the other thing that

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I've been using is just a concordance. Well, you've got a concordance,

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you can get a good Bible commentary
will help you with context and understanding certain

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things that may not be you know, don't jump out at you. And

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then another thing is a good study
Bible. If you get a good study

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Bible. A lot of times it
has maps in it, it has word

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studies in it. It will have
some images drawings or photographs of actual places

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that help you, like trees or
a pathway or proximity between two places,

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that let you see something a little
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Often Bible studies down at the bottom
will have a little commentary that will

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shed light on it. And another
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in most study bibles is cross references, so you'll see other scriptures next to

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it, Like, for instance,
if you're reading one particular scripture, you'll

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see it across reference underneath it that
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to that scripture and you read that
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I see how they tie in together. It's not just they're talking about the

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similar things. This is referencing something
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to shed light on it and let
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of come to life a little bit. What are some of the better online

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references you can go and you can
look at, like the Unbound Bible.

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It's put together by Biola University in
southern California, and it's a great resource

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Unbound Bible dot com. And it
has not only a place where you can

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search scripture, but it also has
tools. A little area that says tools

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on it, it says Bible study
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you can find you know, lexicons, you can find a commentary, you

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can find all kinds of things on
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really really well put together and very
intuitive. On a rare occasion it's down

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due to maintenance or then processing something
or a lot of people using it or

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something. But other than that,
it's very reliable resource and has many different

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Bible versions to choose from, so
you can look things up, including different

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languages. You can look things up
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and that becomes a fun resource.
You know, ask questions, dig deep,

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and if there's something that someone comes
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same passage, then you get everybody
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is what I got out of it, or this is what I saw,

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this is what I learned, And
then you get someone else saying this word

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bugged me. There's something about this
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saying this or saying that, and
everybody kind of comes together and then you

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can go, okay, let's do
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many times is it used in scripture? What other context is that word used

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and even the Aramaic words can mean
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going to be working on a table, you'd say, well, okay,

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a mathematician and working on a mathematic
table. I could be somebody who does

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crafts and I'm going to be working
sitting at a table. So you have

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to know the context of what's being
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life and understanding as to what's being
said and why. And when you come

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together in a group, sometimes that
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if you're you know, you're on
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off on your own and then come
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possible, that's a great way to
teach. Thank you very much, You're

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welcome. I hope that gives you
something to work with. Learning and studying

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scripture, I know, can be
a daunting task and it's one of those

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things you know you're called to and
you want to do. And there's people

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say, oh, yeah, I
read scripture, I know scripture, and

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I guarantee those are the ones that
don't because it's not something you read like

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that. You know, it's not
the tipping point. You're not sitting there

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going okay, well, yeah I
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layover in Dallas and I thumbed through
it and it wasn't a problem. It's

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not like that. You're you're you're
wanting to have it come to life and

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to understand it. And you're talking
about something written two thousand years ago.

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That having an understanding of the time
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Also, the life and times of
Jesus the Messiah is also great, but

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that's also good to understand the context
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too. It just helps you learn
and it becomes fun and kind of an

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exciting way to engage scripture rather than
just the bumper sticker well, where does

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it say that I should do something? And where does it say that I

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shouldn't do something? Because there's much
more to it than that. Hi Chris,

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Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Hi Jesus. I am a bit

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of an amateur anthropologist. I find
that sort of stuff very interesting and I'm

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wonderful. I've noticed that it's not
hard to notice that throughout, you know,

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all of time human time, that
every society, no matter where on

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the earth, you know, those
societies have been that universally all of us

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sort of cling to music in one
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that the more orthodox religions like is
and Judaism, with the chanting and whirling

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dervishes, with the toorally real they
do, which I find so fascinating.

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I'm wondering if there's a linkage,
if you will, between like rhythmic movements

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and singing that God gave to us
as sort of a wi fi, if

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you will, a linkage to him. Is that what the purpose of music

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is? Well? I think actually
you might be. You might be making

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it overly complicated or overly spiritual where
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I'll give you a fun word you
can go look up as homework Ethno.

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Musicologists might be something you might want
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that. There are some differences in
different cultures, and sometimes we're even trying

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to find find or track down a
word or concept like music is difficult to

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find in certain cultures. But music
is fairly universal, and the desire to

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to make music or experience music is
fairly universal. So someone can really and

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easily make the correlation, say,
gosh, this is something that's kinetic,

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that's tying to God. I will
tell you if you went through scripture,

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you will notice that in the Old
Testament that there are times where musicians are

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named by name, talked about by
name, and the priests aren't in the

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same breath, and it talks about
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music obviously is an important part of
worship, but more so than it being

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connected in some sort of super spiritual
way, I think that there's something inherently

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releasing about dancing or movement or moving
to a beat or connecting with a rhythm

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that releases people from their inhibitions and
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in a negative way, but in
a way that people tend to be guarded

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and put on masks, and there's
something it's hard to not respond to a

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beat, whether it's with a goofy
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the head or what have you.
And I think that that's a compelling attribute

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of music. Now, that doesn't
necessarily mean that it's like a direct connection

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to God. However, worshiping in
song has always been a part of the

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Judeo Christian belief system. You just
can't separate the two. And as you

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pointed out, with Canter's singing,
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song, so it absolutely plays a
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get to a point where it becomes
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oh, I can only get in
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that I do not believe to be
true. However, there is a correlation

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that humans tend to confine themselves and
the unconfining attributes of music that make you

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want to kind of express yourself make
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I have no problem with making that
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also the direct correlation to the fact
that you're created in the image of God,

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and theologians have gone back and forth
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means, and some have whittled it
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of intellect, will, and emotion. And to expand on that, I

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would say that creation is a direct
attribute of the Creator. Correct creates,

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That's what God does, and so
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have the desire to create as well. And I think music and art in

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general, but music is one of
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It's the desire to create as God
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creation is music, and in that
sense, I think absolutely positively it plays

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a huge part in worship. I
just don't want people to make it more

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like a transcendental meditation or something that
somehow puts them on a frequency or tunes

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them into God in a way that's
different, because I think when you get

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into that place, you get into
some metaphysical things and some things that might

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not be too productive, especially in
the Judeo Christian precepts. Thank you for

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joining me this Sunday. I hope
you joined me every Sunday and remember more

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importantly than all the craziness that goes
on, I am with you always.

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