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uh, guess what, Brent, two weeks in a row, we're talking
about some Blade drama. We are we are. I mean it's nothing we
wouldn't have been able to infer already, but yeah, some Blade stuff did
come out this week. Yeah, so right out there as usual Marvel.
As you were saying, like, have an interesting history of last minute news
breaking before we go live, so we'll take it. Content is content.
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good. It's been good. Had well, had yesterday off for the holiday,
just prepping for some uh some trips I'm taking over the next few weeks.
So it's it's been good. What about you? Yeah, Heroes Con
was great, so stay tuned for the post credits at that point, go
overall all that the festivities with that, uh had a nice kind of early
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and I went to an all day spa at that point, so that was
relaxing and interesting to say the least. Fair So, uh but yeah,
good week, good week overall at that point. So but uh, a
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We will miss him, but some of the a lot of the trips hopefully
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or listening at that point, well, as we said earlier, were talking
about Blade, you know, last week we talked about how they lost their
their second director into so many The Harvard Reporter came out today with a basically
a major expos looking at all the behind the scenes drama going on and giving
some insights from their quote unquote sources of what has been going on. And
it's been one of those necessarily that it's been rather frustrating, I think for
both of us who not only like Harshal law Ali but also the character itself,
just to see the turmoil that's been going on with this. We're gonna
end up getting the Blade game before we get the Blade movie. Okay,
fact, that's my factor of fiction. I'm sticking to it. It's gonna
happen. Yeah, sad but true, and yes, a little break with
this, Yes, all in the game saying RP. Donald Southern fantastic actor,
fully agree with that. Definitely very sad news at that point. And
if Jack saying excited to hear about Rick's on yep, listen for that after
the credits. So so Harvard Reporter, we're gonna break this down. Some
things we knew, some things we're getting a little more light on. So
they they basically their sources are telling them. Star Mahershala Ali is also set
to be increasingly frustrated, who has been attached to the project since twenty nineteen.
He hand picked Demong after the project lost their first director, Bassam Tariq,
in September twenty twenty two. At the time, Blade was in pre
production and was about two months from principal photography, but Marvel came to believe
that Tarik was not the best fit for the project, according to sources,
Marvel then presented this sounds to be recently presented Ali with a list of directors
for consideration, but Ali conducted his own search after having concerns that the list
largely featured filmmakers who were untested at the big studio level. So let's,
you know, Marvel's had a history you know of giving you know, either
first time directors or newer directors projects like this, or up and coming directors
that may have had a recent like win or two hits at that point to
kind of break them into this. This is not this is part for the
course for them, but the fact that Ali was not at all happy with
this, what do you feel about that? It's an interesting amount of control
that he seems to have over this project. But considering he's the one who
brought the project to them, he's the one that said I want to work
with you as his character, I kind of get what he would want to
do that. And that said, Marvel's track record is pretty good with those
with the up and comers, with the newer or with the maybe the people
who have like I'm thinking about the Russos, those have to be the most
the biggest success story, which they had done projects before, both movies and
TV, but nothing to the scale of what they did with The Winter Soldier,
and then we know what that projected onto. And also one could say
tinfoil hat that the idea that you're newer directors, your up and comers,
they play ball a lot more versus those who are seasoned or want to have
more fully control. At that point, they yeah, they do play they
play ball a little bit more. Marvel's probably able to help them a little
bit more, which, depending on your point of view, could be a
good thing, could be a bad thing. And really that I mean that
kind of just comes down to the project itself. Yeah, Ali has at
times, They're gone to say, Ali at times has exercised an inordinate amount
of influence of the project in a way a few actors have on the Marvel
movies. Part of it stems from the Blade inceptions, which began when Ali
called the studio after winning the Oscar for his work on Green Book and said
he wanted to Blade Ali and Vision Blade as his black panther. According to
sources, so that that right there is one of those that statement right there
can explain a big chunk of why we're getting so many delays, not just
necessarily his control, but his vision for what this is going to be.
This is no simple vampire project to him, right if he's looking for something
on the level of a black Panther, he's looking for something that is going
to make some or a statement, some sort of commentary on race, race,
race, cultural things like that. And because of that, like all
in the game, says Chad Sahlski, who did the John Forur movies,
John Wick, who did great with all four John Wick movies, would be
a good candidate. I don't disagree in principle other than I don't know,
if you are looking to make statements about race or cultural I kind of feel
like you probably don't want a white guy to direct that. So it just
kind of depends on what how literal he's meaning when he's Ali says he wants
it to be his black panther. That said, I love the John Wick
movies, so I I know Stawski has worked in Marvel before. By all
means, put put bring him somewhere and give him the top job on some
other project. And maybe that's the drum they're beating. When they didn't like
what then necessarily what Treike was going to be doing, as they said they
didn't think he could handle it well enough bade me think, Like, I
know, Ali kind of was pushing forward at that point, but if they
didn't think any handle it, it's a little late in the game. But
you know, like with everything, they got rid of it and all the
game. Also saying Ali's putting a lot of pressure on himself. All I
mean, yes, but if he's that personally invested into it, you know
he wants to do right. He's never he's never struck me as an actor
to do just do a project just because of a paycheck, you know.
I mean, it's one of those that I can't argue with what he thinks
this project should be. They go on to say Demong's Blade was batting its
wings toward a shooting date of May twenty twenty three, and hired yet another
writer, True Detective creator Nick Pozzolato, also an Ali pick to bring the
script over to the finish line, but it was all for not when the
writer strike and then the actor strike shut the movie down. Quote. People
have missed about three windows to shoot other movies, shoot other movies or shows
an agent note. But unlike several other Marvel projects which were shut down and
then restarted, including Deadpool, Wolverine and The Thunderbolts, Blade instead let most
of its actors go. This was news Delroy Lindo and Aaron Pierre among them,
and went through more writers. Marvel hired Michael Green in November, and
right right after Demong left, go to Marvel writer Eric Pearson, who had
pleased the studio with recent work on Thunderbolts and The Fantastic Four, jumped in.
So now we've lost two major actors for this project that we didn't know
were no longer part of the project anymore. And you know, it goes
into more of the writers. I mean, I mean that's going to happen
either, you know, I say they let them go. Maybe they couldn't
wait around any longer. They wanted to do other projects and just couldn't commit
to the time as it was kept on shifting and shifting and shifting. This
has always been the problem as a result of the strikes. There's only so
long that Marvel can keep keep an actor from working on other projects. So
we have first rights in your time. You have to keep your schedule clear.
There's only so long they can do that. And if they're not going
to make the movie eventually, they just got to let them go. Or
if the movie keeps, you know, starting over, they got to let
them go. And that's what keeps happening with this movie. Yeah, they
bring out the point of Wesley Snipes chiming in playing a little troll action saying
blade, lordy, lordie, I think the thing to talk about, like
how snowmobiles, how many snowmobiles or whatever doing it. You know, again,
he's just making fun of it. Because he's not involved. Ali's attorney,
Shelby Wiser, told THHR in a recent interview that deal was in twenty
nineteen and they still haven't shot it, which is pretty much the craziest thing
in my professional experience. And I would agree that that's been one of those
where it's saying, really, what is going on? On top of last
year strikes, Blade was a victim of the pandemic delays in Disney's full steam
ahead pivot to streaming, which forced Marvel to overproduce and over develop its slate.
Quote, there wasn't enough attention paid to it, paid to its As
one insider, it really was a casualty of the too much era, and
I kind of I found someone, uh, you know, put up the
photo where Blade was in that huge timeline when Figie did put it on SDCC.
I mean, even looking at the projects that have made it my goodness,
I had forgotten how much projects had gotten delayed and shifted so many.
I mean nearly everything between between the strikes and the Panamic League, well with
the pandemic, literally everything that got announced at STCC five years ago has been
delayed. And so yeah, this but no saying this is interesting all in
the game, saying there were Lindos now doing Coogler's vampire movie. O w
B. That's yep. You can't do one, why not join the other?
And outside of I think we have no title for that. We just
from what I was I had heard today, all the all it is known
as is a period It is a period piece vampire story that that project is
going to come and go before Blade gets off the ground. It feels yeah.
They go on to say that could explain why Blade kept on shifting storylines
and time periods. The version that was aiming to shoot last year was set
in the nineteen twenties, according to sources, and featured me A Goth as
a vampire named Lilith who wanted the blood of Blade's daughter. God still remains
attached to star on the project, however, they are not sure if she's
going to remain as his character or something else for another iteration Under Tariq,
Marvel built a massive train set, but it never was used. It may
be passed on to a different Disney project. The new take on Blade is
said to be in present day, when they were already I mean again,
when they were that close to shooting at one point, it doesn't surprise me
that they were already building sets. But man, what a as it next
said, it is unclear how many millions they have spent on Blade, counting
the development and pre production costs. But it's not stopping now. Marvel has
learned in recent years that it does not pay to be rushed into production and
is del pride itself of having high development to production ratio. And you know
it, says Kevin Figi, has been a fan of has a soft spot
for Blade, considering the Snipe nineteen ninety eight movie was an eye opener for
him and one of the inspirations for focusing on B list characters in the early
days of the MCU. He even remarked in twenty seventeen a character nobody had
heard of at all, had only appeared in a few issues of Tomo Dracula
or something turned into a big franchise, and that is always a great lesson
for me. Where you go, it doesn't matter how well you know the
character. It is a matter of how cool the movie is. And we
already talked about last week. Six different writers now are have been attached to
this project, including Bo de Mayo. Yeah you know that train thing is
interesting, but right now the budget for that probably is attributed to Blade.
But I got to think if they if that set gets moved to another production,
another movie, another TV show, that they absorbed the cost of that,
like they you know, make the shifts on the balance sheet for that.
Either way, if they're within two months of shooting, I'm not surprised
they were set building. They probably have other sets they were doing as well.
And that's the thing when when we finally do see the final budget,
it's probably going to be like what people are going to be like at first
sticker shock, much like we saw with what was going on with Netflix in
the recent Russo Brothers movie. Oh my gosh, the three hundred million dollars,
that's yeah. I will not be surprised that this is skywards right now.
If getting up to two hundred million, probably, and but some of
that's got is you know, they're they have to absorb previous costs and it's
a thing every movie has. But either way, they still I mean,
this will be the movie response responsible for that budget. So if if it
does hit two hundred million, it's gotta go that much higher six seven,
eight hundred million, at the box office to justify it. Yeah, that's
that's that's my figure. It's gonna it'll hit at least two hundred million when
all said and done. I should say at least I wouldn't be at all
spressed when you would think of what the idea of the movie is. It's
just like, there is no reason why. I don't know. We talked
about it last week that he's still committed this despite his frustrations. But at
what point do they they say they're gonna have to cut and run. Absolutely,
But you know what, at least they're doing this all now. They're
not doing it two thirds of the way into shooting. They're not doing this
when they've already started and they're halfway through it, like with Daredevil when they
had to go back, you know, and you get it pay not necessarily
a full page run rewrite, because from what we understand, they did keep
some elements of the episode's film, but it was pretty darn close from what
I understand. Well, do you remember that rumor that Blade was going to
be number four on the call sheet for a while? The one ceration,
It's like see that kind of that kind of crap. You got to get
out of there. He's a title character. He should not be anything less
than number one on the colt. And again that like it or hate it,
you know again, the movies are what they are and who and whatever
we've got with Wesley's Snipes he put that character back in the map. You
know again, nobody, nobody really, you know, even in the comics
these days, Blade still is not a popular character. I know they're doing
a whole event right now in the comics with Blood Hunt, but for all
intents and purposes, it's not a bit. It's at the household. They
mainly do to Wesley Snipes's movies. He showed up recently for me recently for
me, which remembers three months behind Marvel and limited reading with Miles some Miles
Morales stuff and other than that. I hadn't seen him in a long time,
a really long time. So he had a big part in the Hero's
re or Jason Aaron's one, which was I say nothing where is? That
was a big nothing burger of an event that went absolutely nowhere And was like,
why, all right, I won't rush to read that one. No,
I wouldn't. It was like, oh, we're trying to do this
and it ended up doing nothing. So yeah, it's you know a lot
of the stuff we've talked about in this, that and the other. But
hearing some of these things where you know, Ali's perception of what he wants
to do, his vision for this whole thing is a lot of it starts
to make sense. But we mentioned it last week. I'll say it again.
I don't remember another star in that attached the MCU that has done that.
They have done velop a product in this way where the star comes and
says I want to do this. So and there hasn't been one since Why
well, here's here's your here's your case. You know, there's been like
directors where they've been like, here's a couple we're looking at, maybe like
see what's sparking your interest, But there hasn't been anything like this on the
acting side. Yeah, only Game said Blade should ideally be stripped down to
eighty to one hundred million. Yeah, oh, absolutely, absolutely, there's
no reason why I should get up to this point. No, and you're
right that having two oscars, yes, he does get to do that.
I get that. But sure, and again I think he's an outstanding actor
and he should have some say about this, especially with it, but some
reason people say how can when people say, like, how are they not
creating a vampire movie? Well, he doesn't want it to be just a
vampire movie. He wants it to be as it says here his black panther.
So and that's that's a noble cause. I hope it does happen.
We both hear Marvel lines want to see this movie come to fruition. But
we did talk about last week how with the idea of Midnight Suns project starting
to collect, moving along with it with a new writer attached that I'm we're
both very excited about. This could be pivoted into folding into maybe moving Blade
into the Midnight Suns Project. If it's gonna get off the ground, yeah,
well time will tell. We definitely want to see it. I may
not be confident we will see it, but I want to see it.
Yeah. So but all right, well that was our main story for tonight.
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back, all right. So next story up. It's kind of like,
you know, the Spider Man animated show, Your Friendly nameword, spider Man's
kind of gained some traction, so Daredevil related attached to the Spider Man show
in that way. So we got Charlie Cox talking his return as our favorite
horned superhero in animation and in a different costume if we remember way back what
that costume was going to be. Like, Charlie Cox getting is getting is
coming from combook dot Com getting animated about his return. I will voice the
black suited Daredevil and your Friendly Neighborood spider Man, the new animated series from
x N ninety seven producers Marvel Animation. It was announced in twenty twenty two
that Cox had signed on to for prizes role, this time in animated form
the MCU based Spider Man prequel that was originally titled Spider Man Freshman Year.
When Marvel Studios revealed the project, Cox went on to say, I went
into the studio and did some voice over work for that a long time ago,
years ago, during when I was shooting she Hulk, so I think
that was around twenty twenty one, Cox recalled during an appearance at Fan Expo
Boston twenty twenty four. I've just seen a couple of scenes that I've voiced,
and I haven't seen all the scenes yet. I just saw the early
drawings of it. That's all I know. I haven't seen any of it.
I have no idea what the story is, but it's the stories.
But it's cool, the actor clarified, it's cool that Daredevil's in it.
I'm excited about it and this it's interesting just because the actors don't get the
full project. They just get in their lines, maybe a little bit of
context before and after, so they kind of have motivation for how they do
the lines. But it was just like I think that's the most caught off
guard. It sounds like Charlie Cox was when asked about it. Yeah,
I mean if he did this back when he was doing Sethulk around that time,
It's been a long time since he recorded lines for this, so he
may not remember the specifics too much. But I'm excited. I'm excited to
see it. Is this the project I you know, want I've been waiting
for for my Spider Man Daredevil TEAMO. Now, of course not, but
I'm still excited to see it. And you know, it was rumored to
come out later this year, and then that rumor was kind of walked back.
Who knows what it's actually going to be, but regardless, I look
forward to seeing it. I hope people give it a chance, because I
know there's an awful lot of people now who are ready to dump this show
because they want a Spider Man the Animated series revival. I'm with those people
that wanted to see that happen. But let me just see what this is.
The animation style is interesting, is different at that point, I need
kind of like what we saw with the trailers for X Men ninety seven.
A lot of people were I'm not so sure about this animation style, and
then when we finally saw it in full action, up, We're all sold.
We're right there. So I'm all about waiting and seeing interesting though they
give a little more details about this. So this is set during Peter's freshman
year of high school. The series takes place in an alternate version of the
MC before the events of Captain America Civil War in this multiverse remix. It's
Northern Norman Osborne, not Tony Stark of the Avengers, who mentors the fifteen
year old Peter voiced by what IF's Hudson Fame Friendly Herd to Spider Man is
an a mate is amazing, to say the least, said Brad Windebaum,
the head of streaming television animation for Marvel Studios, in recentil comicbook dot Com,
adding that the show is very much like a cut from the classic stan
leanste Ditko era of the comic books that ran from sixty two to sixty six.
Now him saying that now the animation style makes total sense. That is
absolutely that is very much channeling dit Goes Hard very much and hopefully that message
gets out there. No people will see that. I don't know if people
would know Steve didgo, but they'll definitely know stan Lee, but they should
definitely know him. It's Peter Barker back in high school, just trying to
make it work, take care of his aunt, completely broke and having to
be a superhero. So it's essentially Spider Man, Windabaum said, And what
Jeff Trammel did and what I think people are gonna love is He's built this
ensemble of characters around Peter that you fall in love with similarly, just because
it's long form storytelling, as those relationships brew when the stakes rise in that
first season, things feel really tragic and dangerous and pretty incredible. So I
love the show. First, Let's go back to what he said in that
first season. So yeah, basically, I think we're going to get at
least one more season out of this. I mean, they're never gonna they're
never gonna say, you know, I mean unless they flat out said ahead
of the time it was a miniseries, which they haven't done, so they're
not gonna allude to we're gonna wait, We're gonna see how it goes.
I just that's the first reference I've seen to them referring to it as a
first season. That's exciting. Yeah, that's brad Winnebaum. He's been known
to drop these surprising nuggets and purposely at that point, so I'm gonna take
him at face value. He basically has just like covertly subtly announced that there
will be at least two seasons of this. I think so as well.
Yep, So all right, again, it's Spider Man. Well, we'll
get it, We'll we'll enjoy it at this point. So following up with
this, there had been some back and forth in different stories talking about like
who's actually involved voice cast wise, and a number of them, including you
know, the Comic book dot Com had made reference to that the possibility of
Vincent Genofrio reprising his role as Kingpin. Another one basically called out and said
Vincent Anophrio not complicom dot com, but another story saying he had come back
to reprises role. However, that is not true according to Vincent Anophrio.
This is also coming from Comic book dot Com looking at the Kingpin rights are
caught in between Marvel and Sony, so as they straight up start off the
article saying Vincent Nafrio's Kingpin won't be tangling with the year friendly hit neighbor at
Spider Man. During a San Die comic compnel twenty twenty two, Marvel Studios
announced that Charlie Cox was going to be coming back, but in the MCU's
Voice series would is due out later this year, but when asked about it,
he said at the Fan Xbone in Boston twenty twenty four, I'm going
to be transparently to say this. You know the whole Marvel Sony thing,
right, he said. When he asked if he might voice Kingpin in this,
he said, so there are characters Marvel, characters invented by Marvel,
written by Marvel that are caught between Marvel and Sony, and so it takes
a long time for them to figure out who is doing what. As we
know. He reprised his role in Hawkeye and Echo and will be rejoining in
Daredevil Born Again. He said, I never really know where Kingpin can show
up. My character is in that kind of situation, unlike Charlie's, so
I don't know if it's part of the deal when it comes to playing Kingpin.
So they go on to who owns the rights, and the answer,
they say, could lie in the history as the shared villain between Spider Man
and Daredevil. Though the character has been recurring member of Spider Man's Rose gall
ra since debuting in the pages of A Mats and Spider Man number fifty in
nineteen sixty seven, Kingpin has been Daredevil's arch nemesis ever since Frank Miller's definitive
run as writer and penciler of that title. In the nineteen eighties, Kingpin
was regular as Marvel Film's animation Spider Man. The animated series had aired on
Fox Kids Network in the nineteen nineties, and the crime Lord was Big Bad
on the Fox made Daredevil movie played by Michael Clarke Duncan in two thousand and
three. That same year, Duncan returned to voice Kingpin in an episode of
the Sony Pictures CG Animated Spider Man, the new animated series on MTV.
That would be the last time Kingpin appeared in animation. So you said,
Brent, you had told said offline that we have all had kind of forgotten,
like why this is kind of a mess. Well, it's just one
I had never thought about it. And you know, I like to follow
who, especially back in the heyday, of all of them, who what
studio owns which character into the Spider versus the Key Here, there is the
Fox Stared Double movie, there's the Fox Stared Double Movie. All of us
kind of thought, well, when that those rights lapsed and went back to
Marvel. They came out with the Charlie Hawks, Fens and Anofrio show,
and well that's it. Marvel has those rights. And then you know they
used Anafrio again, and in Hawkeye, we see him in Hawkeye, we
see him an echo. We know he's gonna be in Dareduvil Borney, and
we have no reason thing, and we just all seem to forget that Spider
Man into the Spider Verse existed as there or as Kingpin, was the main
villain of that first Spider Verse. And in hindsight, it's like, why,
like, why is that even possible? Because he is Kingpin's the only
character in that movie that that I watching, it would have thought Marvel owned
the rights to. Now, if you had asked me back then, I
would have said they had some sort of deal just to let it go,
because Marvel wasn't using Kingpin at the time, just to let that happen and
it wasn't a big deal. So now, like looking at this, this
is a case character to my knowledge that I don't know of another character that
all three major studios had the rights to Fox, Marvel, Sony at various
times. I don't know, it's super interesting. This really took me by
surprise when I read this this week. Yeah, it's like I said,
it just kind of came about since they both were at the same comic Con
event, and why not ask the same question. So it's one of those
where you know, when Marvel licensed Spider Man movie writs and over nine hundred
related characters to Sony Pictures in nineteen eighty nine, but Kingpinn's one of those
few who are co owned with non an exclusive to any universe. So just
like in order to use Quicksilver and Scarlet Which and the Avengers or X Men,
they had to come to some sort of understanding of how that was going
to work, Like they don't use the word mutants, yes, we used
enhanced or the Chatari and the Avengers movie were basically there because at the time
the Scrolls were owned by Fox. In the comics, especially the ultimates,
you find out basically the Chaitari was meant to be the Scrolls, like in
the comics they're the same race. Well that was true in the Ultimate comics.
I don't know about six and six, but regardless, it is one
of those weird ones. I just never realized or put it together that King
Penfella note that category is one of those shared characters, because it has seemed
like Marvel could use him whenever they want, and obviously we know they can
use them in live action wherever they want. Like, that's not a problem.
So ultimately it's fine if we can't have them in this Spider Man TV
show. If you look at all the other characters that say there's gonna be
at this, fine, there are plenty of other characters to see Spider Man
interact with. Just give it to me on the big screen and we'll call
it good. And and fairly recently, king Bin has split his time in
the comics very equally between Daredevil and and Spider Man. Yeah, and he
was a major major villain in the Spider Man animated series from the nineties.
Spider Man. Kingpin, to me has always been a primarily Daredevil villain,
but Spider Man is like his number two. Like from Kingspin's perspective, obviously,
he was a Spider Man villain first, as you just mentioned, but
like today as is I think of him as Daredevil first, Spider Man second.
I would I would do that too. I mean even even Kingpin has
been introduced into the Ultimate Spider Man universe again, you know find out I'm
not there yet, but no, you should be. No, you're there.
The only only two issues will come out. No, he owns he
owns the Bugle. Oh okay, yeah, I go yea, well that's
more of a Wilson fist thing. But like as the king Pin, well,
I just it's what, it's one of the same to me at this
point. So it's coming. Yes, I'm like, when's the next issue
of that coming. I'm like, it seems like it's been a while.
I made I made sure to be careful with what I said at that point.
So, but yeah, it's it's rather interesting at that point, So
do not necessar necessarily right. If so, it's basically from what vincentinafrio,
he is more than likely not going to be voicing Kingpin if Kingpin is in
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man even you know, we get the quote from you
know, the one of the main kind of create co creators basically of Your
Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man basically saying yeah, we're gonna make sure we're if he
was very clear saying there's gonna be a lot of information coming out from scoopers
who think that they know what's going on. He says, unless it's coming
when the show starts coming out, he gets close, I will I will
tweet out what's real and what's not. But he's not going to say anything
right now. He just basically warned people for believing certain things are true or
not true. So yeah, but we shall see so uh but yeah,
though, that is all the news for this week. So we're gonna take
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and we are back all right, Brent. As always, you put out
the spidy signal for a listener questions. So what do we got this week?
Oh yeah, we have three come into this week from Jim. Do
you feel like Insomniac Spider Man two has been a disappointment with the lack of
DLC since its release? And do you think it should have been released in
February, March or April and twenty four to have had a more complete game?
I want to take that least perfect. What does he mean by a
more complete game. I've seen some people say they thought the game was too
short and it should have been longer. I don't know definitively that's what Jim
is referring to, but I have seen that sentiment out there. I'll answer
that with I think the game was I love the story of the game.
I thought it was a full complete story, so I would not have delayed
it for waiting on any more of the main story. To look at his
first question, do I think it's been a disappointment with the lack of DLC,
Yes, I do, because the only DLC they've had since it came
out was a bunch of extra costumes, most of which frankly I think are
kind of ugly, and some of costumes from the first game. A lot
of I'm kind of offended by some of the costumes. They're just I just
don't think they're very good. Like it's real hard for me not to like
a Spider Man costume, because in general I just like the overall premise.
But man, they the lack of story mode DLC has been disappointing at this
point. The fifth of Jack also saying a Spider Man two should have d
DLC, Well, especially with again I'm not gonna spoil it, and you
know what I'm referring to. There's one major thing that happens in one of
the side missions that leads to a major character like you're like, oh my
god, what and what they have in their possession now, it's just like,
there's your DLC right there. And if they're not gonna do DLC,
because we haven't heard anything official saying they are going to do DLC outside of
costume drops, We've seen supposed leaks of a timeline for what they're gonna do,
but that's never been officially confirmed, and they never have said they're doing
any additional single player DLC as far as I remember, have they Oh you're
muted. I'm not sure why that just happened, weird. It has certainly
been alluded to. But yes, the Flame storyline, I could remember the
name. I'm like the Fire one. What was it? It's called the
Flame Like those side missions the way they ended put it on a tee to
have a DLC storyline. The thing it was like some of the best that
one of the best side missions because of revelation, but because of the build
up to it, It was by far my favorite, and it built off
of things from the first game and the DLC in the first game, which,
again, if you haven't played, I don't want to. I don't
want to spoil for people, but the DLC in the first game, it
like, I like those stories. I thought they were fun stories, and
then they they were short, they were quick. That was cool, but
it gave us a little bit more. That's personally all I want Slash need
out of this, Like, just give me one more little mission, you
know, like these three little things that combine one little good playing Afternoon just
had a bunch of Funko pops fall over and it's it was Green Lantern and
Nova coincidentally enough, Yes, I think the DLC has been disappointing. They
just had another update and I saw it's getting all this press and I'm like,
it's just new costumes. Just give me more. Yeah, It's it's
one of those things where and I'm trying to pull up from some interesting things,
like one of the one of the biggest things that has plagued this game
is how much it costs to make and how much it actually sold. Looking
at a number at the November of twenty twenty three had sold six point one
million units. I don't know if that's a lot or not. I have
no context for that in video games. And you know, again, in
eleven days it hit five million. But I don't think I'm not I let's
see Inslomonic Spider Man two swings past ten million. So they swung past ten
million sold in twenty twenty four, so it's it's this is coming from IGN
fastest selling PlayStation over a twenty four hour period when it sold more than two
point five million copies in a day, which is great, but the amount
that it cost to make Spider Man two Devil Costs ran thirty million over the
original two hundred and seventy million dollar budget. Ultimately needed to sell seven point
two million units to break even. Oh well, they're well pass that,
They're will pass that. But I think at I think at that point it's
one of those situations where they had so much, so much to make up
in the sense of getting back the production costs and the delays and everything like
that. Like people seem to forget how much it takes now to make a
video game. Sure, it's kind of caliber, especially when people complain about
oh, it's a seventy dollars game. Remember when it used to be sixty
You're lucky. It's still You're lucky. It only has gone up to now
seventy dollars. These games could easily be one hundred dollars. And I've had
this debate on different streams at this point, where where's the red line for
people when it's going to cost too much. We haven't hit that yet.
We're at seventy dollars for most Triple A games, but there may come to
a time where it's gonna creep up again because again, it costs more than
studios get out of these games. They don't make money on these games.
They make money on uh uh, well, I take it back. They
make they try to make money on the games, but it's all the accessories,
everything like that. They sell the hardware at a loss. Well,
at this point, if they're if they needed to sell seven million units and
they've sold ten, they've made money on the game, and I know they
could. They're putting some of that into the DLC because I believe playable DLC
is coming. They already have the character models for it, they already have
the maps, they already have a lot of It's not like they're starting from
scratch, crews starting from zero, so it's worth noting. But yes,
ultimately I I think the DLCs have been a disappointment. I would not have
held the game though, just for more. I think the game, to
me, the first the release of the game should be a full, complete
story, and I think they gave us that. So I overall that that
would be my ultimate answer. And from what we understand, when we gets
Spider Man three, it's gonna be a miles focus and it's time. It
is time to get it. I'm fine with that, and I wouldn't at
all be upset if we had another smaller game in between the two like we
did the first Miles. Yeah, and even upon reflection, like I didn't
play any of the DLC from the first game, it really didn't interest me
that much. I'm not saying it was bad, it's just what it was.
I've never been It's it wasn't enough for me to PLoP down the money
at that point, but it I really did enjoy playing the game. I
the idea of what should be one of the DLCs based off that side mission.
How the inside mission ended up. Yeah, that if it's gonna be
that, Yeah, that might get me to PLoP down about maybe ten dollars
or so whatever they're going to charge to play it at that point. But
I'm with you. Those costumes they've been putting out there, majority of them
in my opinion, have been terrible. Yeah, they just yeah, So
all right, let's go on. Anthony says, you get to pitch a
mutant related movie and show to Marvel for phase seven. What are your pitches?
Mutant related? Are we basically saying it's not like just MU doesn't have
to be X dismute related. Mute and related is what he said. So
could be X Men, could be something else. I want my Black Ops
X four series, sure, okay, X Sports and movie animated project.
I want it based off of the Remainder run. I would like a Nightcrawler
movie with basically his origin growing up in Germany and everything he goes through.
And I would want, you know, Mistique and Destiny involved. You got
to have his parents in there somewhere, So the Nightcrawler would be my movie.
What about a show? A show they would have ga Appeal high school
team drama about a teenager mutant who just goes to school there. I want
one of the X Men just goes to school there. I would just do
call it. You know they your school for higher learning. Just do a
show just titled something like that. You know exactly the goings on, and
you don't. Maybe you get a mission or two out of it, but
it's not every episode, not even close. Not in a mission on purpose,
just a mission by circumstance, probably because you know it's the X Mansion.
It's gonna get attacked, Juggernaut is gonna come bareling through or something.
You had to rebuild that sucker every five minutes, right, that's right,
Gonna keep those keep those construction crews and work all right? What have we
got next? Last last up from Omari Daniels. What MCU moment always makes
you laugh no matter how often you revisit it. For me, it's Trevor
and Chung Chi talking about the planet of the Apes. For me, it
has been and continues to be Get Help. I love get help. My
wife and I will bring it up every so often, and it continues making
me laugh. I don't care. I unapologetically enjoy thor Ragnarok. I like
serious. I also like love and thunder. Yeah, we doubled down a
little too much on that one. That's where we went a little bit over
tide. But Ragnarok, I have no apologies for like that movie, and
Get Help is one of it is my the my favorite scene from that movie.
You mentioned Love and Thunder and I started chuckling at some of the jokes
in that movie. But my real, my real answer. The first one
is also Thor related. Coincidentally enough, Okay, I can think of two,
but the first one I really thought of is a scene I mentioned before
in Thor The Dark World when they recruit Loki to help them get off of
as Guard and they're just walking and Loki is basically mocking Thor and he turns
into Chris Evans's Captain America. That gets me every time, every time,
cracks me up. The cameo we never thought we needed and UH have no
clue what was gonna happen. It just absolutely broke me the first time I
saw it, and I've loved it ever since. The other Thor related scene
I thought of was when he goes into like the had store into shouts he
needs a horse. I need a horse. Well, interest enough. My
other one would be tangentially thor related in this case Loki at that point where
where Loki facing down Hulk and just yelling out of me grabs him and just
boom boo boo boo boo, puny God, just yeah, because at that
point I was just like, yeah, shut them up, please, We've
come a long way, mister Loki. And we have Pepper walking in on
Tony Stark changing out of his Iron Man suit, says, this is not
the worst thing you've walked in on me doing. That's pretty good. There's
so many moments that even though I know they're coming, I still laugh at
them. But that that Loki is Captain America moment for me, and I
knew for I just knew you would say get help. I knew you knew
at that point. So but it's it's it's a great scene. It's a
great scene. Yeah you said, it is one of the funniest scenes in
that movie for sure. Besides that it's my birthday. You know that's funny.
But I like I like the get help scene even more. Fifth of
Jack America's Ask scene against Me or the classic on your left or Kathleen on
your left. Okay, now you have to go into that. How funny
is that to you there, Brad, Yeah, funny, but it's not
funny because of the show. It's not funny because of the movie. It's
funny because of the charity trivia contest we were doing. And I asked the
question, what was the very first line spoken in a Russo's Marvel movie?
The answer is on your left And the individual in question did not get the
question right. And so now every time I see it on your left meme,
I send it to him, and I just I've sent him recently private
tiktoks. He's like, I swear I thought that was gonna be an on
your left. I'm like, no, it was arrow related. All the
games got one too, saying akoy is why was she up here all this
time? When Wanda comes down to join battle? Yep, was she up
there all this time? Yeah? So good, so good. Again,
there are a lot. I mean, we're going to stop the stream and
say, oh, we could have mentioned that. I mean people people knock
the MC for the the sometimes what they call low hanging fruit. You know
what, guess what, you can hate it. I enjoyed it, just
like I enjoyed DC movies, and I enjoy how they do their their different
kind of brand of humor. They call it organic. That's fine. I
can like them all and I cannot like them all. So nope, nope,
you're still I do not know why that keeps happening. But my son
told me this week, we need to watch the Zam again because it's been
a long time since we've seen it. Like, okay, we can find
time to watch it there. Yeah, well, thank you James Thanking Anthony,
thank you o Mari for your your questions this week. That was a
lot of fun. And uh, all right, so fact or fictions,
let me pull up the five from last week. All right. Number one,
the Midnight Suns Project will have a team where half the roster has already
been introduced in a prior MCU project. Sixty seven percent said fact. Thirty
three percent said fiction number two. Sony will debut their live action theatrical Spider
Man within the next five years. Fifty six percent said fact. Forty four
percent in fiction number three, we will not see the MCU's version of the
Green Goblin and Venom until Spider Man. For here you go, one hundred
percent say that is not happening. For this is from Anthony somehow by the
end of Venom, the last dance Venom will have the iconic Spider Man logo.
Eighty nine percent said not happening. False hope, God, we hope.
Not that they don't deserve it. No, they haven't earned it or
deserve it. And the final one from Anthony Logan Wolverine will not be They
will not be on the initial team of the first MCU movie fifty to fifty
split. We're not sure. So all right, Brent, your turn this
week? What you got for first up? Noran Rad will also become a
silver Surfer in the MCU. Basically, I'm say we're gonna have more than
one. I know a lot of people were like, oh, no,
it's not Noron Red, and I'm saying, I think we're gonna end up
with two. I think he's gonna appear regardless. Yeah, I think we
will see him, maybe not at the first movie, but I think we'll
see him as a silver Surfer in the MCU. Yeah. I'm down for
that. I'm a fact on that. That's not that's not too big of
a stretch where it's like, ah, but they're done one, No,
we can we can have you know, our our current our newest anointed silver
Surfer, make reference to her, her husband, lover or whatever they're gonna
call them at that point of being a previous silver Surfer and kind of see
a a look at what they was that he was. So I'm down all
right. Next up we will see a Fox X Men actor and Deadpool and
Wolverine. But it might be archival footage, so someone that Cyclops could show
up, James Martsen could show up a Cyclops, but but it a flashback.
I'm saying that it might just be archive. Like, I don't necessarily
think they will have filmed something new, but I could see them using archival
footage and at third act flashback. Sure, sure, Sorry, I just
wanted to use that line for the trailer. Uh yeah I could. I
could kind of see that that would that would be that that would fit,
that would fit the movie. So yeah, fact, yeah, I'm a
fact. I think they'll use it somewhere. And finally, you know,
I told you earlier today I was trying to think of a third one,
and I did think of a third one. I was thinking about what's gonna
happen in the short term with me being gone, I've alluded to it already
this evening, substantial Spider Man four news will drop. Well, I am
gone over the next three weeks. I take the little hanging fruit. Why
don't you Hey, I thought of it earlier today. That's that's okay,
fair enough, Sure, why not? I'm saying a fact, But I
think it'll be it'll I think it'll leak, but it'll leak from the reliable
sources because I think it'll come out before San Diego. But we don't know
where you're not. You know, you're not just saying some quote unquote substantial
something that we will well know when we see it. Something will think that's
substantial, gotcha, something We will know and we'll see it. So telling
me that Tom Holland signed for it isn't substantial by the way. There you
go, So all right, there you go. We will I will post
those as they as usual on Sunday afternoons. Let your voices be heard,
and our guests will be coming in the next couple of weeks. Will do
in Factor fiction is because that's there. That's their crutch they have to bear
is coming up with Factor Fiction's David has to do possibly for two weeks in
a row. Let you guys worry about that. Yeah, that's that's an
avid problem. That's not a meat problem. I'm sure he's. I'm sure
as he's a good listener. He is. He is already, he's already
coming up with stuff or has, like you, a backlog of ideas.
He probably does, so, all right, so let us I know we
had said originally and this is I'm sorry for listeners that do follow along with
our compook club that we said we were going to be just doing issue four,
but with Brent leaving, we didn't want to hold it off for three
weeks at that point, so we did an audible and we'll be doing issues
four and five, concluding our exploration of Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe again.
So looking at issue four, I will have to say this is my favorite
issue more so just due to the action sequences that took place. It was
a good one. It was a good one. I like the Deadpool Ultra
on Combo mm hmm, especially where it's ripping off the helmet and and doing
more damage to him than Yeah, necessary, that was a good scene for
sure. You know, he's not really worried about it. He'll heal up
in a couple of monutes. Yeah, he'll heal up at that point.
But I do appreciate. I think it was more tragic and how they did
it with taking down the killing the power pack and this Marvel and and Devil
dinosaurs. That harsh that. I mean, it was one of those that
SA's like, oh yeah, they they I'm surprised they even did it.
I mean, one, I didn't think it was necessary. If I have
to be there, did I really need to see this go down? Did
I? Ever? Oh, they didn't take down the power pack and miss
Marvel up their heroes out there. Now, I've never been a fan of
Pierpark. I know. I know Travis Hines is a big fan of a
power pack. He he talks about it quite often. He always likes putting
it out there, power pack. But but that was one that they did
it taste they quote unquote did it tastefully. But it wasn't necessary. But
it was one of those that kind of showed how far he had gone down
this brainwashing path for sure. And then I was surprised to see gwin Pool
still alive. No, I kind of thought the villains would have would have
killed her. Yeah, it's one of those where, yeah, I don't
know it. She ended up kind of doing the breakthrough moment on him.
So yeah, I did have to kind of laugh at the Deadpool putting Daredevil
on the stand in the courtroom. That that did get a jungle out of
me. That that was also on brand as well. And then as he's
actually killing him, calling him a hostile witness. But the the thing about
saying whenever you punched a ninja, do you actually say talk to the hand?
I legitly felt loud at that. I was not expecting that, you
know that, That's what at least that I appreciated the gimmick they were doing
in understanding like how what he was experiencing at this moment where these were not
working, you know what he was going through, you know. Yeah,
and he goes all fast and furious, racing for pink slips with the ghostwriter.
Pretty good there. Yeah, but uh yeah, Gwen Poole, I
had to go back and reread it just understanding what the trigger was that wasn't
like really clear necessarily. So but all right, so that is that issue,
and I tell you what I do, like the the next week,
how they did that cover, not like the actual cover, but the next
week like preview cover. That was pretty good. Sure, so, uh
so what did you think about the conclusion? Actually, no, it ended
up being that that ended up being an actual cover. Never mind, What
did you think about this one? The final issue? Well, that cover
so smile You're Dead. And the first thing I noticed was, oh,
that was in the trailer, the Deadpool and Wolverine trailer, the smile your
Dead bullet or gun or whatever, which I guess I presume this is where
that came from. I hadn't seen that before. I hadn't read this story
before. I liked him taking on carnage, even that one. I'm like,
man, he got some of these. I'm like, how did Deadpool
manage just wing this? Even Carnage was one that made me question it.
But a very gruesome finish, and well that's carnage, so who cares?
Yeah, and it's it is what it is at that point. But he
had already faced down Venoms, so he kind of had an idea of how
to take him down. There was a character I couldn't tell who he was
going after. He like, he took out the leader, he took out
mysterio and then the final panel of that page. I wasn't sure who that
was supposed to be, somebody that he's burning their head with. Hm,
Yeah, I'm not sure which page is at page eight and Marvel Limited.
Yeah, you're right, that one. I'm not sure about everyone else we
could determine. Yeah, everyone else, you could tell who it is,
but that one. I stared at it for a while. I'm like,
I'm not figuring it out, and I moved on, and the next page
was, well, Kingpin, he's gone bulls Eye versus Bullseye and Batchhock the
Lib versus Deadpool. That was a fun fight. Yeah, it was.
It was interesting, especially how he's trying to play them against each other that
you know, you're just gonna betray each other, right, yes, yes,
But how he took down Bullseye. Yeah, I'm never gonna I'm always
gonna be like, how how bad can we take him down? Yeah?
That's fine there. I like how he took down Green Goblin. The look
on Goblin's face as he got decapitated, it got a chuckle out of me.
Yeah, I would agree. Now, what did you think about that
interaction with with Magneto That whole scene. Magneto could have also probably destroyed him.
At this point, he's surrounded by metal. It looks like just to
impale him over and over again and plumped him off to space or something probably
could have done it, but Magneto just feels so defeated over everything that's happened.
I get why he didn't do it, and I like that Deadpool let
him live like that was his way of killing him. Was Nope, you
have to live with all this, just like I have to live with it
too. So what do you think about the final fight? Uh, it
was fine. It just it wrapped up really quickly. I thought that was
very anticlimactic. Again, I thought it was gonna be a little bit better.
It's like, it feels like there should have been another issue. I'm
like, that's it. That's the end of the story, okay, And
like they're like, you don't even know if you're awake right now. Well
we know that Deadpool was awake right now and actually killed the Red Skull because
of the way they were changing the art whenever he was in his own mind.
But it just felt, yeah, anticlimactic, that's the way to go.
It just was like, oh, that's it, it's over. I
feel like there should be a six issue, but I guess there's not.
I like the first series better than this one. I I I would agree
with that this one. I was very about it, and that's what I
was kind of worried about. But I'm glad I did read it. I
appreciated the gimmick, how they were, how they were doing it. But
it was Yeah, it just wasn't good. It's interesting. We've read now
too, you know old Man Logan and this that it basically ended with the
Red Skull in so many ways getting decapitated. Well that's fine, Yeah,
it's okay. We Yeah, a Nazi deserves to be at that point in
surprise, he did just crush the skull as it was talking to him or
fake talking to him, however you want to look at him. So but
yeah, so this was this was good. You know, it's it's one
of those rare cads where we both have not read the the storyline. So
but yeah, like we said, we're going to be taking a break from
Comboo Club until after Dead Pulm Wolverine. Uh you know this time this upcoming
home will be the you know listeners on Twitter that will get to choose which
one we do. We don't know the we don't know what the theme is
going to be, and therefore we don't know the issues. So but we've
got some time to think about it. So we'll figure it out. We
will, we will, we will and so yeah, so that is volume
two hundred and nineteen in the books. So Brent, tell people they can
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stand the man would say, excelsy or true believers. All right. So,
yep, as we talked about at the beginning of the show, talked
about last week, yep, I do my annual trip to Heroes Con and
Charlotte. So I last year it was great. It was one of those
where you know, on Friday, always my objective is to knock out as
many of the big time creators first because Friday is usually your low attended day
because during the week Saturdays where everyone comes out because it's the weekend. So
I had, you know, as I was telling my friends even to Aaron's
like after going, since they came back from Pandemic, I've gotten to know
how the com. I mean, I went to the com before Pandemic,
but this is I kind of found out and started learning how they operate,
how to do this, and this is probably the most I have ever been
prepared going into this Con in the sense of what my attack of plan was
the least amount of books I had planned on getting signed at that point.
But my objective, my number one objective, you know, we you know.
I alluded to how my objective last time was getting Rick Lenardi to do
a sketch and that ended uh, not so well. We'll put it an
interesting bait and switch that he decided to pull on me, but that didn't
end up happening. So my objective this time was my new favorite writer it's
been the last couple of years artists currently the current lead now just the writer,
but restarted as writer and artists of the new Transformist series for the ener
John Universe at Skybound, Daniel Warren Johnson. So I'm gonna for those that
I posted this on Twitter, but I'm gonna pull it up here for those
of watchings for these listening you just got to let me describe. So yep,
objective achieved. So I went up, went, I got in thirty
minutes early because I paid a little extra for that, and went straight to
Daniel Warren Johnson's table because he does four by six sketches only so many a
day at the con, so I had to line up and get my ticket
for that, but not only his first when I got there signing my Wonder
Woman Dead Earth Black label that he does, he does free sketches inside the
hardcover books just as a thank you, and it is incredible because that's almost
an hard that is there are very few that do that now and he just
does it. I mean the amount of popularity that Dan Warren Johnson has garnered,
even right before he was named writer and artist for the initial couple of
arcs of the Transformer series, like he has skyrocketed to some of the best
out there, and just the amazing sketch he did for Wonder Woman. But
when coming back from my four x six at that point there was only one
shouts I wanted, I wanted Optimist Prime and he just watching him sketch it
out at that point and I had to tell him how he saved my con
last year. He was very touched by that, and that is my Optimist
Prime sketch running out the autobotch rollout. So yes, So if you have
not read Transformers the new relaunch under Skybound, it is great. I can
also highly recommend the mini series that are going on at Skybound Building to a
G I. Joe Proper series they have done, and Duke they have done,
Cobur Commander. Now those miniseries are wrapped up. Now they're onto Destro
and Scarlet, so check those out. Those are highly, highly recommended.
But going down, I got to meet Dan Jurgens and he got to I
got him to sign not only my omnibus for the Death of Return Superman,
but also he signed my very first comic I ever bought, Superman number eighty
two, The Hall of Foil Superman Back for Good. Told that that is
my original issue. That is as minch as he can ever get out.
I've treated that like gold, even as a child when I picked it up
with my allowance money and telling him that story. Dan Dreck is one of
the nicest people you could ever meet. He was. He was so kind,
really was touched by the story. I told him, I blame you
for getting me into this, and he's he kind of laughed and he said,
well, how's it working out for He said, it is outstandingly working
out well. Moving on, got to meet Greg Rucca and if you're a
DC fan, Greg Rucca Batman Infinite Crisis, Gotham Central fifty two on top
of his independent work with Lazaruth the Old Guard. I brought up probably three
omnis the Lazarth Deluxe editions involved. He was just like, you need an
award just for carrying that. I said, sir, you're one of my
favorite writers of all time. And he wrote little quotes and every single thing
that relates to it. But I said, I totally got to tell him
that Gotham Central is by far one of the best things I've ever seen him
write. So it was a cool moment for that, very nice. Then
meeting Charles sol You know, if you're a Star Wars fan, you know
who Charles Soul is a lot of the writers of the High Republic stuff,
but we know him as a Daredevil writer, Darth Vader writer, a lot
of independence, but Daredevil he had that is what a lot of the stuff
when we're hearing is born again, it is going to be taking. And
he actually told me that he had been to the set and he said it
was a very cool moment to see some of his creations come to life.
So yeah, I'm looking forward to one of those for sure. Yeah.
I got to meet Larry Hama, legend in his own right. Gi Joe
a real American Hero has been there since day one on Real American Hero continue
that journey. He had an illustrious run on Wolverine. Really nice guy.
Greg Ha amazing artist. But if you have not read wonder Woman Historia,
his art in the book he was responsible for one of they go on books
in black Label. Gave me a surprise, nice sketch of wonder Woman there.
That was cool. I mean, I got a lot of surprise sketches.
Next up, Scotty Young. I'd met Scottie Young for the first time
last year. I bought a poster. I love his art some people call
kitty. I just love his art style. But he did a whole Spider
Verse poster that's hanging right over there. I love looking at it at that
point. But I the Omnibus OZ where he did the whole series of all
the OZ books in his art style, that had been long out of print.
I found an amazing deal for it in mint condition on eBay last year,
and I said, if he comes back, I'm getting him to sign
that book. And that was a cool moment because I've read it to my
kids a number of times, so it's it's It was a cool moment at
that point. Brian Stelfreese, he was the first artist on Tanahase Coaches running
Black Panther, and I presented him with the omnibus, which he was quite
surprised part. He acted like he had never seen that omnibus before and I
was just looking for a signature for him. He proceeded and if you're watching
this live around my Twitter, he did a whole page sketch of an amazing
black Panther. Oh yeahble that that. I was just like, oh my
god. He was just like, well why are you and sho He's like,
what's wrong? He said, I was just looking for a signature,
sir, you you you did that? And then somebody says, well,
this is just to thank you for purchasing this. I think that's my favorite
piece you've shown. For sure. It's amazing. It is so local.
Indie indie writer Josh Greathouse if I've promoted him on this show a couple of
times, but he's independently produced his own his own indie book called Bang the
Ballad of Ballad of the Tiger. He's got two books out there about the
series, but he produced this this this is a print, but he actually
put up the actual original sketch of Big Barta painting a Big Barda for the
art auction to benefit Parkinson's research that they do every year at the show.
So that was really cool. Jim Shooter, we all know, we should
all know Jim Shooter for for being the writer for Secret Wars, the original
Secret War series. Now what he's holding there is my issue of It's the
original issue of number eight. I did not have him sign that because he
was charging twenty dollars for a signature, so I'd just signed the omnibus.
I was not going to be paying forty dollars for both. But I wanted
him to hold the issue at that point because that issue I've had for a
couple of years. It was not in great condition. I'm not looking to
sell it, but it was just I just wanted the man to hold it.
And my last meetup this was I was kind of surprised when I saw
him attending. But Mark Guggenheim, co creator of this what series? There
Brent seventeen different ones. But I'm gonna go ahead and say Arrow, Yes,
Arrow and the Arrow Verse. He is a compook writer too. I
can highly highly highly recommend x Men Days of Future Past Doomsday. If you
have not read that series, it is basically a prequel of what led up
to that two issue to issue famous story by Chris Claremont. But what he
does in that the right the story he weaves, Man, there are some
I mean, we know a lot of people died at that point, but
how it came about, I said, bravo. But I got him to
sign my my copy my first season and the final season of Arrow at that
point, because in my opinion, those are really the those are my two
all time favorite favorite seasons. I mean Arrow the Raver. You know the
love I have for the Aroo. Yeah, oh absolutely yeah. And so
that that is incredible, that and that that's I would love to meet him
someday and just say thank you for the thousands of hours of entertainment. And
I did. He was very touched by it. He was even he was
like selling like some of the scripts from the first pilots of all this stuff,
and he was telling me kind of he's got a couple of television shows
that he's currently involved in that one of them is going to be going to
Netflix. There they've been it's a superhero universe, but it's of his creation.
It's not based on any any current ip it is his own created property,
and he is working with God. Was the name is kape up or
Lanti on another project. So so yeah, so very very enjoyable. And
I got pretty much everything done on Friday, So I didn't end up going
back to the rest of the weekend because it was one of those like I
got all the rest of the people I wanted to meet. It wasn't like
I have to It was like it would have been nice, but I've met
him before, and so I saved money and I came under budget with what
I'd spent, so it was a successful con can't can't beat that, you
know, mission accomplished. Mission accomplished. So but we will see you all
next week, at least I will see you, Brent. Will see you
all in four weeks, in a few weeks, in a few weeks,
so save travels, Brent. We will see you soon and talk to you
all next week. Bye bye,