WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:28.879 Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, and welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight 2 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:32.359 hundred and thirty nine, powered by n ZXT. I'm your host, Jan 3 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:38.719 Ochola. Welcome to this May seventh, twenty twenty four. Today we're actually 4 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:41.920 uh getting rid of all of the news. We're getting rid of all the 5 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.600 video games. You know what we're gonna do this is that we're actually going 6 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:51.079 to dissect chronologically in order of the Drake and Kendrick Lamar Beef. Let's go 7 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:59.560 expert on all things bbl's Jeff Grubb Todd. You know you should see my 8 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.799 search. It's wild out there. There we go, There we go, 9 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:10.519 speaking about experts on bbl's. We have an expert on all substances. He's 10 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:14.439 watching the Citizen App. He's watching the Neighborhood App. It's surprisingly enough. 11 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:18.280 He's also brought back the good old app from twenty eighteen. Yik yak, 12 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:23.760 Jeff Beckler. Oh yeah, yeah, I did all that. I did 13 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:29.879 all of that. I'm I'm a neighborhood watchman. Now. I just stand 14 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:37.799 outside yelling at people who come too close to my lawn and our person on 15 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:42.719 the streets, our dear friend Nicki Grayson, Nicki Grayson is reporting live from 16 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:49.519 their place. Nikki, how is it feeling over there? Hey, everybody's 17 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:53.200 going great over here. The news is we've got big news. Yit yak. 18 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.359 I don't know if you heard, but it is back everyone's favorite platform 19 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:04.560 to bully other freshmen. On has returned that it was, uh, that's 20 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:10.560 all, That's what I used it for. Yeah, it's someone of the 21 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.639 Jeremy Renner app. Someone in Chad said, that's not got about that. 22 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:21.319 As far as I knew, was like Reddit, except there were no subreddits. 23 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.400 You would basically tweet into it. There was like a character count and 24 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.639 it had up and down votes and that was it. And it was just 25 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:32.479 like a revert, a revand feed and then you would post rumors like this 26 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:38.439 person gave this person your blojab. But it was like hyper local. Yeah. 27 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:42.919 Yeah, it started out as far as I remember, in like on 28 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.520 my college campuses. You had to be within the geo fence of a college 29 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:50.520 campus and then it would give you that. But then they expanded it and 30 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.240 then it shut down. Remember yo, No, no, I don't remember. 31 00:02:53.319 --> 00:03:00.520 Yo. Remember buzz No, you made that Google Buzz Google Plus different? 32 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.039 Yeah, but yes, that too, yo, was just an app 33 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.520 where you had a list of friends and then there was a big button on 34 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.400 it. It was purple and it said yo. And then you would press 35 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:14.360 the button and then you would it would you would yoe somebody, and then 36 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:19.120 it would just send a notification that said yo to the person. So long 37 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:24.840 you know that everyone here has probably seen my phone and how many text notifications 38 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:30.360 I have because I just don't read my texts because I suffer from that debilitating 39 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:31.680 thing of like, well, I'm going to thoughtfully respond to this later, 40 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:37.520 and then I never thoughtfully respond. So our text message is like emails, 41 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:38.800 do you know? Because the emails I have no time for either. I'm 42 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.599 just try Like, well, emails is just a bad number right now. 43 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.520 Emails the new snail mail, you know. Oh yeah, yeah, I 44 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:50.560 get. People have been talking about this more too, like like I'll be 45 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.240 in a meeting and Aaron was like, oh yeah, email, don't ever 46 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:54.719 send an email. I wasn't going up, but now I'm definitely not going 47 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:59.199 to. Like there was a moment where it was like we're all in agreement 48 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:03.240 here, Oh are the worst than the all times? Messaging is different because 49 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.400 I'm right there with jam on this one as well, where it's like I 50 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:08.520 see it, I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm going to get back 51 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:11.400 to that, and then I will like throughout the day like craft something in 52 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:13.800 my head and I'm like, well I sent that and then I actually didn't 53 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.279 say it exactly. Yeah. How many how many texts you'll have right now? 54 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:21.759 Oh? Read? No decades? What you said? Yeah, I 55 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:27.959 got zero thirty nine and they're but they're all from one group chat that I 56 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:32.279 have. Oh sure, yeah, totally if I read. If I read 57 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:39.879 those, the number is now twelve. Okay, I like, I don't 58 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:42.240 know if it like counts them all up on Android, but I see a 59 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.199 book that like that one's I got fifty five on read from Coal's Coles the 60 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:55.720 clothing them store. No J Cole, stay out of yeah, don't don't 61 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.120 get involved. Don't get involved, stay out, but yeah, save yourself. 62 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:04.120 Where'd you have like texting relationship with Coles? Well, they got discounts, 63 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:08.959 they text me couples. Come on, you gotta get those cup ons. 64 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:14.240 I'm coming. I'm coping on him. Do you have a line after 65 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:19.600 which like someone loses permissions to text you? So, for example, yesterday 66 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:24.600 a website sent me a text, and then an hour and a half later 67 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.439 they sent me another one that was like, hey, actually we changed the 68 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:31.600 coupon code and I was like, congratulations, lost ability to text me, 69 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:38.680 lost the access to Yeah? Yeah like and I immediately replied, stop unread 70 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:44.399 text messages. Do y'all think I have one hundred and ninety I've got hundred. 71 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.600 Uh. Keep in mind some of these are like receipts from stores groups 72 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:56.000 that I've muted. Sure my number still stands, my dispensary emailing me the 73 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:02.759 weekly offers or directing me six hundred, seven hundred and sixty three. Oh 74 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:08.399 hell yeah, that's a good number. There we go. I dk Oldies 75 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:12.879 has has emailed me so many times since I bought that Superman for Dan. 76 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.199 Every day it's like ready for a new experience. No one else is doing 77 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.879 this. These are all the subject lines a bundle you need to see retro 78 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:25.040 gaming question thought emoji be the first to see these new games. It's joey 79 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:28.560 with a quick message. Well, I will eventually block them, but I'm 80 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:32.480 kind of still more of bidly curious about this. I just feel like rapidly 81 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:39.720 approaching quadruple digits of unread texts is a thing that I could not live with. 82 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.879 Yeah. Yeah, let's be clear, we're in different no worlds. 83 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.160 Like yeah, because I know there are people out there that see the big 84 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.959 number and it's like all they can think about. And I see the big 85 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:53.600 number and it's everything I could do. Just like it goes out of my 86 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:56.199 head immediately. I need to like put in a whole other bucket and it's 87 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.680 not part of my life anymore. And that's what we did. You realize 88 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.079 this college of owning an android phone is different, right, Like I feel 89 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.079 like it's not as I still got the big I'm talking about, like like 90 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:11.319 the big number like four and ninety one unread emails my inbox that goes. 91 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:16.279 I wouldn't know that so many of these is the dispensary that I frequent and 92 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:19.319 and uh it's fine, it's okay. Uh yeah, you're gonna be there 93 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:24.000 next week. You don't need it here exactly, here's my here's my idea. 94 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.879 Okay, just mark them all is red jan Yeah, yeah, like 95 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:32.600 them all is read at the same time. Your jin in my inbox right 96 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:39.279 now is important. They'll come back, they'll come back. Oh man, 97 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.519 what could the dispensary want what could they want? They want to, they 98 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:45.360 need, they want to. Speaking of drugs, I'm on drugs now too. 99 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:48.639 Oh he's on the gimmicks. Are you on the roids too? I'm 100 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.600 on the roids. I'm taking steroids. Why are we all taking aeroids right 101 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.759 now? I don't know? But like I just started taking the happy pills. 102 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:00.240 What's happened? She's coming on? We gotta get yo. Dan talked 103 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.240 about all these side effects. I got nothing, damn nothing. She's doing 104 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:07.560 nothing to me. Is this for your when your ankle got banged up? 105 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.079 No, buddy, this is like I had like swollen tonsoles out of nowhere 106 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:16.959 last week. Yeah, I don't know. It was I it wasn't anything, 107 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.560 and it's gone now. I don't know. You know, it's weird. 108 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:26.519 I used to get tonsilitis chronically in my twenties, and then Stacy, 109 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:35.639 my wife, my wife was my girlfriend at the time, had her tonsils 110 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.279 removed. As soon as she got her tonsils removed, I stopped getting tonsilitis. 111 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:45.679 Wow, Like that's when I would get it, like every three months. 112 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:50.320 It's compassion, I think, yeah, she she she took one for 113 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.440 the team. Is basically what happened. Uh is that insane, like, 114 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.600 and I don't have like the science to support that. It's anecdotal still because 115 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:05.200 there's no like real thing. But I definitively remember like the line drawn where 116 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:11.399 like I just stopped getting consolitis why this is positive for mono for like ten 117 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:16.919 years. Part of this story is the kissing disease. Yev it is the 118 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:22.840 kissing disease. Tell me more so. I definitely had mono in like junior 119 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:24.080 high because I remember I had to stop wrestling because it's like, well, 120 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:30.399 if you wrestle, your spleen's gonna explode. Wrestling, right, Yeah, 121 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.480 I was wrestling. I was wrestling wrestling too right, too correct. And 122 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.879 that's why I can't think that baby, for a decade, you were, 123 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:41.480 you were mono positive. Yeah. And then and here's the thing. I 124 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:43.480 haven't been tested since. And I'm like, what, like, you don't 125 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:48.639 have mono. You're too energetic. I'm sorry, Like I right, maybe 126 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.919 I don't have mono, but there's something that happening inside of my body. 127 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.039 I think that is causing it to show up as mono positive because I remember 128 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:00.480 being like, well that's weird because it was like well out of high school 129 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:07.240 with mono. Yeah, but I'm sleepy a lot. But one of them. 130 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:09.000 I know, like, every time I see you, I'm in all 131 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.679 of your energy. I used to be a lot more energetic, though that 132 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:18.159 would have been to deal with. Yeah, this is post mono gl Yeah, 133 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.240 people have the sorting facility. I used to ask me to chill out 134 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:22.519 after a shift. They're like, how do you still have energy? I'm 135 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:28.279 ready for another one. Let's go bring on another plane filled with boxes to 136 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.279 the doctor. I'm thinking, like, what if I went to the doctor 137 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.360 doctor and explained, here's here's my problem. The last doctor I went to 138 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.360 and explained anything, he was such a chump that it was like really frustrating. 139 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.080 I'm like, oh, I'll go explain this, and I'm like, 140 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:41.440 cool, story, We don't care. I don't think men should be allowed 141 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:48.080 to be doctors. You're you're right. All the positive experience I've had with 142 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.039 medical professionals for the last ten years, especially since having kids women, yeah 143 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.240 right, you're right that men should be allowed to be doctors. Men are 144 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:58.480 trash. You know, we know this. I mean, you know, 145 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:03.519 look at me, so yeah, grow up. Hey, what what about 146 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:09.240 your mark out on a Monday that you're just gonna be gone because you're gonna 147 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.000 go talk to a new doctor. Yeah, sounds good. I'll do that 148 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:16.120 next Monday, maybe before game, maybe before SGF even Yeah, do that 149 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.039 pretty good. Now. I'm for my my and my child's well being. 150 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:28.240 You're walking around saying that your monopods from me. I don't think I'm just 151 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.440 gonna kissing me. I'm just gonna stop tongue kissing you. That's gonna that's 152 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.519 not an option. The team bonding experience is just gonna plumbing them all right, 153 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.399 find other ways to bond. James is not going to be the same. 154 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.759 No, it's not gonna be the same. We can't kiss in front 155 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.200 of Mickey. Oh no, Mike wouldn't allow that anyway. Yeah, very 156 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.360 disrespectful to Mickey. You you can't kiss at Disneyland. I think that's a 157 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.360 Minati rule, folks. We're gonna do things a little bit differently today on 158 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:05.000 the BombCast. We're actually gonna start with the new oo oh, I wonder 159 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:11.120 fucking why. Yeah, if there's something happen, hi, everybody, I 160 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:16.799 have the news here and we're started with it. Because of poor management and 161 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.759 bad companies just sucking left and right. Microsoft is closing down Red Fall and 162 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:26.000 High Fi Rush Studios. Among other cuts, Microsoft is closing for Bethesda Studios, 163 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:31.639 Arcane Austin, Alpha Dog Studios, Tango Game Works, and Roundhouse Games. 164 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:35.240 The decision is part of a reprioritization of and this is their words, 165 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.759 high impact titles by Xbox Game Studios, Redfall, Mighty Doom, and High 166 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.879 Fi Rush. We're among the latest games released by these studios. Arcane Leone 167 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:50.120 will continue to continue development of its projects, Tango Game Works will close entirely, 168 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.639 Roundhouse Games will merge with ZeniMax Online Studios. These closures will have some 169 00:12:54.720 --> 00:13:00.240 people losing their jobs. I would imagine quite a few people. Actually, 170 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.960 that's the like short version of it. They made this announcement this morning, 171 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.320 and they basically repeated a bunch of things saying, yeah, this is about 172 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:15.960 moving around resources to things that are gonna be our bigger games, blockbuster games. 173 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.879 I guess, Okay, what's the initial reaction to this, And then 174 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.240 when we get in some of our long term thoughts about what the future is, 175 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.200 I guess I'll start. I think a lot of people are saying, 176 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.399 like, hey, this is the result of consolidation. I think this probably 177 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.320 would have happened no matter what with some of these studios, especially since the 178 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.799 way Microsoft operates, where it's like all these studios have their own like sort 179 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.399 of little bubble that they exist in and they have to make enough money. 180 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.039 It's not like, well, Microsoft makes enough money, you're definitely safe. 181 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:45.360 It definitely seemed like for a while there it's like, well, you won't 182 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:52.000 get shut down. Clearly that's changed, But to me this signifies that I 183 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.879 think for Microsoft, the strategy that they had shifted to of like hey, 184 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.159 game pass and getting a bunch of games on game Pass, and I have 185 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.279 all these studios put out games, whether they're big games, small games, 186 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.240 whatever, we just want content that doesn't seem to matter, and believing in 187 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:11.720 a studio like Tango Game Works that put out one of the best games of 188 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.840 the last year and be like giving them another chance to build on that. 189 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.720 That's not in the cards, that that's not an option anymore. It seems 190 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.480 like the whole thing just doesn't work, and they are shifting probably towards hey, 191 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.840 we have call of duty, let's reinvest in that. I just I 192 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:33.279 don't see any type of motivation to try and work for a triple A game 193 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.080 or try and make that or be acquired by one of these big studios anymore, 194 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:39.720 because you thought you would be safe, right, like you think there's 195 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:45.120 two billion last quarter? Yeah yeah, kind of go ahead, go ahead, 196 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.879 Oh yeah. I'm just because like it's the kind of thing where they 197 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:54.440 make so much money as an overall corporation that you just assume, Okay, 198 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.519 well, you made these choices to acquire these companies, you said, do 199 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.159 what you want to do. They did it, and those games came out 200 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.240 and many of them were successful. Redfall wasn't. But that, like, 201 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.960 that is a studio that has had successful games in the past in terms of 202 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:13.639 at least at least in terms of critical reception, and it just feels like 203 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.120 there's a disconnect. Okay, well, then let's try it again. Maybe 204 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.559 change up a few things, but let's do what we can to make the 205 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.159 next game even bigger. That seemed like what should have been before them, 206 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:26.679 and instead they are pulling, they're they're just ripping these things out of the 207 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:33.080 organism and throwing them onto the street. And it's just it's unbelievably disheartening because 208 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.759 it seemed like, Okay, the whole point of something like game pass, 209 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.600 and your new strategy and acquiring all these studios was let's let them just make 210 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.879 what they want and let's give them a home in this live serve or in 211 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:48.799 this ongoing service that will justify everything we do. And now that is no 212 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.159 longer the case, and it's I just kind of don't know what the future 213 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.279 is for Xbox other than yeah, sure we're gonna have an Indiana Jones game 214 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:00.480 and there's gonna be a Call of Duty every year. Beyond that, Are 215 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.840 they just giving up on all these other games? It seems like it at 216 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:04.559 this point that's the sea. Yeah, go ahead, and oh no, 217 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.919 sorry. That's the thing that I fundamentally don't understand with these moves, or 218 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:14.840 with any move that is, like where you are are shutting down a team 219 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:21.919 at this scale. You've just spent sixty nine billion dollars on Activision Blizzard, 220 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:29.840 right, which has a bajillion ips underneath this umbrella. You need teams and 221 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:34.480 people to make game to justify the purchase, right, Like, yes, 222 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:38.960 if you put Call of Duty out of the room, you need to justify 223 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:47.720 the purchase by having studios make games using the rest of the intellectual property inside 224 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:53.440 of the company that you just bought. Also, those teams make their own 225 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:59.879 very good games. Yeah, I agree, make those extremely good games all 226 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:03.480 ready. You can hire more people later, but like you already have these 227 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:10.359 talented ones in the fucking house. Like I don't. I simply don't understand. 228 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:12.759 It's so short sighted. It's like, yes, it makes the numbers 229 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:18.680 look good this year, but then in two years, like you just said, 230 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.400 Greb, you release Indiana Jones, you like Xbox releases their slate this 231 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:27.519 year, and then what yeah, And it's like, uh, we see 232 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:32.759 the strategy of everyone's been like, hey, we are doubling down on our 233 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:36.240 biggest stuff. And it's like, yeah, I mean I've seen a company 234 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:41.240 already do that and have some success, and that's that's the Sony On Sony 235 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:45.119 Computer Entertainment Company. And they are also like, okay, and now we're 236 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:47.279 looking around, Hey, where's the growth. We don't know where it's coming 237 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.519 from. We need to make some changes as well, even though we keep 238 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:53.000 we double down on all our biggest games, and most of the stuff we've 239 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:57.799 done recently is either making sequels or remasters or remix of those games. And 240 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:02.400 people want those things, they are buying them, but it's not enough. 241 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.240 We also need to grow. So it's like they are going to shift more 242 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.720 towards that strategy. Again, this is their words of high impact titles. 243 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:15.000 That's what they're interested in. And a certain point, if you couldn't make 244 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.039 the game pass strategy work where it does enable them to have a chance to 245 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:22.519 make something like a high Fi Rush or Pentiment and make those things make sense, 246 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.400 then I think you have bigger problems than one studio not making enough money. 247 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.960 It doesn't make sense where like these studios feel like they're being punished, 248 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:37.480 where other aspects of the company may not be measuring up, that they're completely 249 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.960 out of control, is out of their control. I worry about Indiana Jones. 250 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.559 Right, it's a massive ip. People are very excited about this game. 251 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.799 I'm hoping and I'm thinking it's gonna do very well. But is that 252 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.279 gonna be enough for Microsoft? Is that gonna be enough for Xbox? Or 253 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.839 are they gonna just lose their Are they gonna get shut down like five months 254 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:03.599 after the game is out? Yeah? I like The thing that is starting 255 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:08.359 to bug me a little bit is people being like they lied. It's like, 256 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:15.319 yes, they always lie. It's like, stop taking their fucking word. 257 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.799 Nothing is ever going to make sense because everything is always a lie. 258 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.839 It doesn't matter, It does not fucking matter. And if you think it 259 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.480 matters, then you're paying attention to the wrong fucking ballgame. Because there are 260 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:32.279 only a very very few people at the top, at the tippy tippy top 261 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:36.359 that are making decisions. That group of people is incredibly small, and they're 262 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:41.880 incredibly ruthless, and they don't care about anybody. It doesn't fucking matter. 263 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.680 Stop being surprised. This is what. Yeah, I like that, and 264 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:49.960 I don't mean that to be like, I just think people are fooling themselves. 265 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:52.559 The more they're like, I have the receipts they promised, they said 266 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.640 this at this press conference. This is what they're shut. No, it 267 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:02.720 doesn't fucking matter what they say. It doesn't fucking matter because yeah, like, 268 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.440 have you not learned this by Yeah, because they'll tell they'll tell you 269 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:12.079 anything, right like service, Yeah, in service of in service of getting 270 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:18.759 you to be confident enough in them to continue to buy a box or buy 271 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:25.640 this ex They'll tell you whatever the fuck they want. Yeah, But like 272 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:27.000 the people that they answer to, no, no, no, But the 273 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:32.880 people that they answer to don't and don't care about that. Like fundamentally, 274 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.200 they are looking at a number on a screen and that number needs to go 275 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:40.119 up, and if that number does not go up or stays the same, 276 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.599 then it's like, okay, well, what are you gonna do to make 277 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.240 the number go up? And it's a it's like it's politics on like every 278 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.640 side, because I wasn't like gonna bring this up because I don't want like 279 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.680 make it about the stuff I talked about before, but like that that the 280 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:59.200 Tango game works Hi Fi rush thing and at the time reporting that you know, 281 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:02.960 it this much and only made this much and it didn't make its money 282 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.319 back and all this stuff, and you know, they came out and didn't 283 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.279 basically denied that. What they said was we couldn't be happier. It met 284 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.480 all its key measurements that we put up against it, and now people are 285 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.920 holding that up you and like, hey, they clearly what is this This 286 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.759 is age poorly And part of that is like part of is that like, 287 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:21.359 hey, okay, maybe some key measurements it didn't it did meet at the 288 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:25.920 time, but clearly they have been putting this thing on PlayStation and trying to 289 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:29.559 make more money from it. But the reason they really came out at that 290 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.440 time and I talked about this, but this was by then it was like 291 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.839 buried. The reason they did they did that is they were trying to make 292 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:38.559 Tango Game Works let them like realize that, hey, we care about you, 293 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:41.200 and we don't care what anyone else is saying, and yeah, the 294 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:44.599 money may not be there, but we believe in you or reinvesting you. 295 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:48.319 Now, what has happened since then to change that? I have no idea. 296 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.240 But at the time, the reason they were so orciously like like against 297 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:56.400 what I was saying is because they wanted to make sure that they didn't think 298 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.640 internally at Tango Game Works that Microsoft didn't believe in them. Cut to a 299 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.319 year year and a half later, they don't. They don't believe in them. 300 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.200 Why why does that? What where does that change come from? Well? 301 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.319 I think it's a couple of things. I think the overall like macroeconomic 302 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:14.359 situation of investing in games from all these studios has changed, and that they 303 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.839 don't think that that's necessarily always going to pay off. But it's like, 304 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:21.920 boy, that how does that not scare every other studio at Microsoft and really 305 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.799 across the industry. Everyone is in a similar situation. But the idea was, 306 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:29.160 you know, two billion dollars in profit last quarter, twenty two billion 307 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:32.759 dollars in profit the year before that. What is the point of acquiring all 308 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:37.079 these things? If if they if you don't like give them that safe, 309 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.079 safe space to operate in, right and let them have a stronger buffer. 310 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:42.519 It's like, no, you are just as expendable now as you were before. 311 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:47.039 There is no difference. And when you say you believe in us a 312 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:48.839 year and a half later, that could change and we get to cut Like 313 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:55.200 everyone else, this is this looks really bad for Microsoft, like this situation 314 00:22:55.279 --> 00:23:02.160 that they're in now. Yeah. God, I I just think of the 315 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:07.000 story uh on game mess I think it was last week grub where Microsoft was 316 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.279 saying that they want to meet gamers where they are, and that's completely fine. 317 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.000 If games like High Fi Rush, Grounded are headed to PS five and 318 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.720 other platforms, whatever, that's great, more people can play more of these 319 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:25.039 games. But then they go and do these closed down all these studios and 320 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.759 it's like, what where are you going to meet these gamers with? Are 321 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:33.160 you just expecting to meet them with? I know everyone's joking around now that's 322 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:34.720 like you're just going to meet them with Candy Crush and Call of Duty. 323 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:38.160 But yeah, that has that has to be what the plan is though, 324 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:41.839 right yea, because that's where the that's where the money faucet is. Yeah, 325 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.920 And it's like if that's the case, and they'll never do it. 326 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:48.759 But if they were, like, we're actually just going to lean in to 327 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:55.720 the fact that we have Call of Duty and Candy Crush and like in theory, 328 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.200 like a like fall Out, we have five games. Just do what 329 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:03.480 Activision used to do as recently as three years ago, which is say we 330 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.119 have three video games that we make and that's it. Every year we every 331 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.079 year three video games come out and that's all we do. If that's the 332 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.880 if that's what you want to do, then just fucking lean it, like 333 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:21.160 just just do it. But like don't like have this like ah, actually 334 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:26.079 we're invested in a big like we want to like you said, we want 335 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.559 to meet everybody where they are. Yeah, Like that's not true, Like 336 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:33.039 I have no interest in playing Call of Duty actually, and like if you're 337 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:36.680 if you're trying to meet me where I am or meet other people where they 338 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:40.319 are, you actually need smaller games like yes, and like that keeps the 339 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:45.759 industry healthy. But like they've had so many conversations over the years and declarative 340 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.799 statements, and you know, this goes back to back Lar's point of like, 341 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.559 well, we want to make we want to like claim in Japan, 342 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.880 we want to put steaks out in Japan and like really invest in that market. 343 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.440 And then you just shut down a whole fucking studio, the one Japanese 344 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.319 studio that you had that was you know, kind of finding its way. 345 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:06.799 It felt like, yeah, sure, Shinji Binkami has left, and maybe 346 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:07.559 that's a big part of it. I don't think so. I think at 347 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:11.839 the end of the day, it's like these companies weren't profitable enough and the 348 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.680 overall, butthest the structure is probably looking a little bit rough because I don't 349 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:18.480 think Starfield made as much money as it needed to make to justify the whole 350 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.559 dances weird, and so I think that they're they're just like these studios are 351 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:26.079 getting cut off because of a profit and law sheet and that's it. But 352 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.519 like from the perspective people playing games, I think we look at at Tango 353 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.880 Game Works and like, no, they're figuring stuff out High Fi Rushed. 354 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.000 That was awesome. You know Fi Rush two is gonna be great. If 355 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.880 they came back and announced you know, Evil within three, I think that 356 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.400 would have been popped. That would have popped off really big. I think 357 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.920 that Microsoft probably just doesn't have the appetite to see these games get announced and 358 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.559 have a five six year development cycle and not be not be a sure thing 359 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:52.400 where it's like, we do have sure things now, so we're gonna look 360 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.079 at those instead. And it's like, oh, you bought Activision and and 361 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.119 they sort of that mentality was unov at a certain point, like, if 362 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:06.720 you do the path of least resistance resistance and you operate under the one guidance 363 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.359 being return return shareholder value, you sort of can't help the becom act division 364 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:12.720 if you acquire Actiation. And I think that's what it seems like, that's 365 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:17.319 what's happened, But that's the that's the thing that was so thoroughly confusing to 366 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:18.400 me. When I was working at fan Byte and they announced it, I 367 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:26.480 was like, isn't it cheaper all across the board to just sign Activision to 368 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:32.119 an exclusive deal? Then it would be to merge this company into this company 369 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.279 and I know that Like the way that American business works is that it's multiplicative, 370 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:40.400 right, Like you you put your numbers together, number go up so 371 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:44.839 big yep. But now you're in a situation if you're Xbox, if you're 372 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.480 Microsoftware, it's like, okay, you have to justify this thing that you 373 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:51.799 bought. You know what, you wouldn't have had to justify if you didn't 374 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:55.200 this fucking the business that I invented at the beginning? Do you remember this? 375 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.920 If they if they were like a middleman, if they were allowed to 376 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:03.400 be like, we think we're gonna spend sixty nine billion dollars on Activision and 377 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.240 they set it in a box and they were like, well, let's think 378 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:12.279 about this for four fucking months. But instead, now you're in this. 379 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:21.039 Now you're just fucking Activision. Yeah. Okay, So they have confirmed already 380 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.759 that the June showcase is going to happen for them. Yeah what about next 381 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.039 June? Yeah, I'm you right, what are they gonna have then? 382 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.720 But I'm like, they come to this thing, and are they really gonna 383 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.559 get people to have competence in these games at this point? When it's like 384 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.640 why? At a certain point, I'm like Okay, I know you're gonna 385 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:42.240 not abandon some of these biggest things. But it's like Contraband from what Avalanche 386 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.960 or whatever, that one that had the steely Dan sounds right thing. It's 387 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.480 like, Okay, yeah, maybe that comes out, maybe it doesn't whatever, 388 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.839 Uh, but is it something I'm gonna really want to spend my time 389 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.079 with? And if I'm like, if not sure that you're gonna stick with 390 00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:57.880 it as a franchise going forward, if you don't seem interested in it, 391 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.680 and when you're we know what happens when you lose your interest, kind of 392 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.000 feels like I should maybe just wait and see instead of getting excited about a 393 00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.519 lot of this stuff. And then they're you know, they have a ton 394 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.839 of games already announced and I'm as part of that, like they'll fallout from 395 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:12.640 this. It's like, you know, hearing more and more, and I've 396 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:17.359 been hearing for years. Perfect Dark in the Rough State sounds like it's in 397 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.400 a very rough state. It's like, yeah, that game was announced when 398 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:23.039 I was in college, yes, and it doesn't sound like it's really come 399 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:29.319 together in any way since then. And like Crystal Aamack's coming on board to 400 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.759 help work on that if only within the Microsoft umbrella, the Xbox Game Studios 401 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.240 umbrella, there was like there were any sort of teams that had any experience 402 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:42.279 making first person shooters. Yeah, and it's like that it sounds that's what 403 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:48.960 they want to do with that. Yeah, and they like they have so 404 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.519 they have these things they've already been announced that they have to deliver on, 405 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:53.880 and they're probably gonna come out with some new announcements as well. We know, 406 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.759 like you know, we know, we have a pretty good idea Gears 407 00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.000 will be there. They're probably there will probably be some other stuff, even 408 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.359 stuff from like the a Bethesda umbrella that will get announced. And at a 409 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:08.400 certain point it feels like, okay, but the whole stench around Xbox is 410 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.960 bringing all these things down and not like in a way where once upon a 411 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.640 time it would have been like, oh being Xbox is figuring things out and 412 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.680 like that makes me feel better about all these other things, and at this 413 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.319 moment it does not feel that way. And this is like very similar to 414 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.400 like the stories from last year, like going into the Summer Game Fest and 415 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:27.920 like they had a bunch of layoffs then I think there was a whole bunch 416 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:32.640 of problems with Xbox going into last Summer Game Fest and it's like, well, 417 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:33.319 you know, if they figure it out, put out some good games, 418 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.359 people start to feel a little bit better, maybe they build a bright 419 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.200 future. It's like, well, nope, that things kind of didn't improve 420 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:42.440 across the board, and so they have made even deeper cuts and they've abandoned 421 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:47.440 some strategies that they started just a couple of years ago. And boy, 422 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:48.920 I don't know how you feel good about about this company at this point. 423 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.720 I would feel really scared to be on like a team that's working on an 424 00:29:52.759 --> 00:30:00.200 existing project like Overwatch two or World of Warcraft right of like we're may making 425 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.000 money, still kind of are we making enough for y'all to keep us around? 426 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.000 Yeah? You know, like they've like Overwatched too, has been through 427 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:12.000 the ringer in terms of like like canceled updates, canceled plans. I just 428 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.680 hate to see what, like how that team may be feeling under, like 429 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:21.279 the pressure that they see with everything collapsing around them, and like with World 430 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:26.079 of Warcraft being on a pretty big upswing in terms of numbers compared to the 431 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.000 last previous years, does this sour any of that audience at all? That 432 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.640 they think like they're all their stuff is gonna get yanked from underneath them that 433 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.920 they just jump ship to a different MMO or even like further down that line 434 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:42.440 chen like they announced so okay, say they I don't know who God knows 435 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.400 how many games are all announced this year. Then those studios that will have 436 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.640 released their video games between now and like let's say this time next year, 437 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:57.799 their games will come out inevitably. I'm sure, yeah, they will not 438 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:07.039 reach those goals like just numbers wise, based on Xbox's previous history of like 439 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.640 the games that they're producing, it seems like their goals are way too high 440 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:15.319 for the titles that they have, and instead of like adjusting those goals, 441 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:22.079 it seems like they are still holding them to like impossible standards. All I 442 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:23.960 feel like is going to happen next year is that we are going to be 443 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:30.119 in this exact same boat where two more studios are going to be shut down 444 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.160 or people are going to be like they're gonna soft be like or like what 445 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.519 they just did, They're gonna shut the studio down, but be like, 446 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:37.559 oh, actually not all of these people are losing their jobs, are just 447 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.640 gonna go work onf fall of seventy six, which has how much time left 448 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.759 in the tank? Right? Yeah? Right, yeah, Like that game 449 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:49.519 is old and not like huge numbers right now because of the TV show. 450 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.039 But without the TV show, how much longer did that thing have? Not 451 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.279 very long? I would I don't know anything, but I wouldn't feel like 452 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:02.000 very much longer. And like we could like look ahead to some games that, 453 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:07.400 like you know, Ninja Theories help Lay two comes out, like wow, 454 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.799 how well does that happening to sell? Even like Indiana Jones, like 455 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.799 Machine Games has has put out some games I really love, but none of 456 00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.279 them have like really broken out in terms of sales, and some of them 457 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:22.880 have done really poorly, including that like cooperative Wolfenstein game Young Young Young Blood. 458 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:24.680 Yes, And so it's like, Okay, I mean, is this 459 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.480 were we in a world where like a Machine Games gets shut down or you 460 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:30.920 know, spun off or sold off or something like that. I don't know. 461 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.119 That doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility at this point. It 462 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.200 doesn't. It's like no makes the whole thing stink. It makes the whole 463 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.000 like whole like crop of games feel like, oh, the stinch of death 464 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:47.039 is here, Like no matter how abysmal and disappointing Redfall was when it came 465 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:52.599 out back of my mind somewhere, I was thinking they might be able to 466 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:57.079 turn this around. Vampires are always hot. People still love vampires, whether 467 00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.359 being them, sleeping with them or killing them, and that like Redfall somehow 468 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.759 could have like may throw the hail Mary and pulled it off and made it 469 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.640 like a big switchero. Even something like Starfield right could have could have massively 470 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:14.759 turned around and like garnered back the public support because Cyberpunk did it right, 471 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.839 No Man's Sky did it so like I'm I was hopeful that that would be 472 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:22.880 possible. But now, like with something like Starfield, like, are are 473 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.599 we going to see like big projects that have the potential to make that one 474 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:30.880 eighty just get canned and just like nah, you're just making call of duty 475 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.200 now, I think in this in this environment right now, yeah, that 476 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.240 seems like it leans more towards No, don't even try to bring it back. 477 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.319 It's not worth it, even though we've seen it happen over and over 478 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.720 again. It's it's just it's gonna save us more money in the short term 479 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.680 to just cut these things off and move on. Well, so I guess 480 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:52.119 the thing that I'm still trying to square as much as I'm like, oh, 481 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.200 you just have to operate from the position of like I can't believe anything 482 00:33:55.240 --> 00:34:00.880 you say, put putting that in a vacuum for a second after this the 483 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.480 size of this acquisition last year, right, Like, I guess I just 484 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.639 can't square like how that sort of coexists with everything and just sort of like 485 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:19.440 is this a sort of like retro active rationalization for like, you know, 486 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.719 expenditure and like loss prevention some sort of like preempt Like is that whole thing 487 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:30.840 just a preemptive acquisition in terms of just like strategic you know, I mean, 488 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.400 like like what is all that is? Basically, I think it's two 489 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.960 separate things. It's actually how they view it. It's like, we have 490 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.639 a lot of money sitting in the bank, and Sati Nadella is willing to 491 00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.000 listen to anybody about who might know some way to get a return on that 492 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.599 stuff. Because all that money's doing right now in the bank is losing value 493 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.039 because of inflation. It's losing value way faster than it used to. So 494 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.679 we want to spend it. We want to spend it bad And then as 495 00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:58.880 inflation got worse throughout that process, or like, man, we locked in 496 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.199 a price when that like, now that money's worth a lot less, so 497 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.400 good thing. We locked in the price when we did. We're going to 498 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.519 see this thing through. And then on the other side, it's like all 499 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:12.079 of these companies inside of Microsoft, they really are their own little like like 500 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.320 like business infrastructure, to the point where if you like now, like especially 501 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.039 if you work at like Activision, you're like, well, you know, 502 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.199 maybe I could transfer over to Bethesda. There's no process for that. You 503 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:27.480 have completely different four oh one k, completely different like hr. Everything is 504 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.000 so separate. And that's like not just true of like Activisions Pathesta. That's 505 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.559 like Microsoft Games and Bethesda. Like if you work at three four three, 506 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.039 you can't just like one day be like, hey, can I go shift 507 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.519 over and work at at Bathesta. It's like that's a huge process and pain 508 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:43.280 in the ass. They have nothing set up for these things, and that 509 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.360 like Filters all the way down to each team sort of needs to make their 510 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:51.760 own money. I remember when c Ifie's launched, I talked to Joe from 511 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.079 that team who oversees that project, and I'm like, well, you know, 512 00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:57.440 you're part of game Pass, so it's not game. As long as 513 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.119 game Pass is doing all right and people are debscribing, you should be fine. 514 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.400 Right, He's like, no, we have to make money. We 515 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.760 have to make a lot of money to make this game. Makes sense for 516 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.320 Microsoft. That's it was true back then, feels like it's more true now. 517 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.960 And I think if you just look at the studios they shut down, 518 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.000 it is an example of them looking at their profit and law sheet Ambula being 519 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.960 like, these studios didn't make the money they were supposed to make, and 520 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.199 so what what is our option? You can reinvest in them? And I 521 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:27.920 think that was at one time the goal. And then as you know people 522 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.760 are spend a little bit less money on games, they're like, never mind, 523 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:32.360 let's just not do that. And again that's a big problem for me. 524 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.519 Yeah, and like you make a commitment to reinvest, right, but 525 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.079 then you you have to understand how long it takes to make a fucking video 526 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.920 game, right, Like, you don't just you don't like commit to reinvestment 527 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:52.400 and then twelve to eighteen months later say, just kidding, that's not you 528 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.199 don't make a game in that much time. You don't like, that's not 529 00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.119 how much time it takes to make a video game, so like you can 530 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:07.159 it put you can't ever in this Like this feels like Sony and Microsoft are 531 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:13.079 kind of from the opposite ends of this spectrum, right, Microsoft makes unbelievably 532 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.679 short sighted decisions all of the time, and Sony gets complacent, where like 533 00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.719 they sit in their their bubble and they're like, oh, fuck, yeah, 534 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.360 we were making more money than God. And it's sick in theory like 535 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.079 in the past, right, like not now, but like we're making more 536 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.800 money than God, and we can just keep making the games that we kind 537 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.199 we make right now, and that's gonna be set and fine. And it's 538 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.840 like, actually, no, like this isn't working. And also if you 539 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.760 make short term decisions all the time, that doesn't work either. So it's 540 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:47.199 like you can't there's no vision past the next earnings call. No, because 541 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:52.000 the next earnings call is when they have to report to the people who are 542 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.519 really actually in charge, right, And it's like, well, actually, 543 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.599 if you just waited three if you just said we're gonna wait three fucking years, 544 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.559 shut up, shut the fuck up Friday for three calendar years so we 545 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.440 can see what happens. Give us the time and space to run, so 546 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:14.400 we can actually release some video games under this new directive, right, But 547 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.679 then actually, if you just recap everybody halfway through, then like, yeah, 548 00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:21.679 of course it doesn't work, Like of course the XCEL document's gonna look 549 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.800 bad, and like the other aspects of that is like again, a lot 550 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.079 of the stuff other decisions that Xbox Microsoft are making are out of control of 551 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:35.960 the developers, like how hard they're pushing game passed, how the consoles aren't 552 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.400 selling well, and how it doesn't seem like Xbox as a whole is any 553 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.880 more of a viable platform. But you are owned by Microsoft, so you 554 00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:50.480 can only make the games for this platform unless told otherwise or saying or finding 555 00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.360 out further down the line after your game is out that no, you can 556 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:58.719 release on Switch, you can release on PS five. It feels I think 557 00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:05.199 it must feel terrible right now, especially of like we're gonna get meecapped either 558 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:09.000 way. Like he doesn't seem like there is a path floward that is sustainable 559 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:14.360 for any of these studios, And it works backwards too, where it's like 560 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:21.239 they when there's no path forward, they make decisions outside of these developers' hands 561 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.320 and they only see to the next quarter and then you like, okay, 562 00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:28.960 well then what what what would be a solution to those issues. It's like 563 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:34.199 if there was a strong, like centralized vision from these leaders that have been 564 00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.719 at this company now for a very long time. And the thing I always 565 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:39.719 hear is like, no, that doesn't that's not really there. There is 566 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.400 no strong vision. And what you what you can expect from the company though, 567 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.679 is a lot of politicking and a lot of people just trying to make 568 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:51.039 decisions that don't either don't get noticed and stay out of the way. Uh, 569 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.960 and then trying to undermine one another. And you know, this is 570 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:58.119 all up and down the infrastructure of the company. Uh. But then they're 571 00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.679 like okay, so then what, like, these leaders that have been there 572 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:01.920 for a long time, what do they have to say to these companies to 573 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:05.559 sort of guide them along? And there's there's a vacuum there, there's this 574 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.920 big space and OI all this feels like it's rooted out of that where it's 575 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:15.599 just every lack of strong every bad decision feels like why didn't they think of 576 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.000 that? It's like, well, they aren't really looking that far ahead. 577 00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.039 It's like they had a lot of money to spend there doing that, and 578 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:23.400 that that's an easy choice to make when you have a ton of money sitting 579 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.679 in the bank. But beyond that, how what to do with those studios 580 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.679 once they have them? Clearly that was not there, and I think we 581 00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.480 were seeing the evince of that repeatedly. Now sixty nine billion dollars, sixty 582 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:38.239 nine billion dollars and like to not have a thorough this is why I was 583 00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.320 another reason why I was so shocked. I was like, you haven't even 584 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:49.000 done like at Microsoft, like when they started announcing that they were what was 585 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:53.719 the E three was at sixteen or seven twenty eighteen eighteen when they were like 586 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:59.400 we've acquired everybody. Yeah, and it was like when they had like or 587 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:05.280 not to Bulvar Tim Schaffer studio, Yeah, double fine and yeah, and 588 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.400 it was like oh, like oh okay, like I see what like sure, 589 00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:12.960 yeah, like this is this makes a lot of sense. Like one 590 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.519 of the things that you can always point at Xbox game studios is that there's 591 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:22.360 no breadth, right, and this gives you breadth. And then they didn't 592 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.760 they didn't do anything with it, like they did do nothing with it, 593 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.519 and before trying to figure out what they could have done with the shit already 594 00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.320 in the house. They saw, Oh, you know what would be cheap 595 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:38.960 right now, Activision. Okay, so we'll spend sixty nine billion dollars on 596 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:43.519 Activision because that's cheap in the grand scheme of things, that's not a lot 597 00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:46.800 of money. But yeah, they say repeated, it's like, we think 598 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:51.119 that where the value will get out of owning that will be way more than 599 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:52.840 the sixty nine billion dollars. So for us, it's a no brainer. 600 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:58.840 And I get that, but but okay, uh, you bought these studios 601 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.880 four or five years ago. The whole idea was like, let's see what 602 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.880 they can do, And at no point does it feel like we saw what 603 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:07.719 they could do. It feels like we never got to that point. There 604 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:12.079 was a bunch of legacy decisions that were left over, a bunch of contracts 605 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.760 that needed to be fulfilled that got a stuff like Ghost Wire, Tokyo and 606 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.440 and and a bunch of other games that like, okay, yeah, those 607 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.119 are going to PlayStation first, even like that's weird. We're like, okay, 608 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.119 they're seeing this and then once they get past that, we'll see everything. 609 00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.800 And that never happened. Yeah, because there was no time there. 610 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:30.480 Again, there's like they forget how long it takes to make a fucking video 611 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.159 game, Like you have to commit when you buy a video game studio that's 612 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.079 actively in production on a thing, it takes its double the amount of time. 613 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:43.000 Like fundamentally, it's just double the amount of time because they have to 614 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.039 do the thing that they're already working on, sustain that, and then they 615 00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:52.320 can start working on the thing under your umbrella. It's just it's so infuriating 616 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.440 because it's not It really isn't this hard. That's the thing. Like I 617 00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:01.239 shouldn't feel like I could run this company better at any Yeah. Yeah, 618 00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:07.519 and certainly I think at a certain point the leadership will have to has to 619 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:08.920 answer for it, right at some point, And it doesn't feel like that's 620 00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:13.599 happened yet. So I think I might be able to run a trillion dollar 621 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.960 company, y'all. I think I can stand on business. Yeah. Maybe 622 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.920 I don't even have to look look at my emails to run this company. 623 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.800 No, yeah, just call and then at that point you have someone else 624 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:30.599 looking for you. Yeah, just show up to the meetings. Don't even 625 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:36.559 do that the meetings. I don't even have confidence now that like I will 626 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.360 ever be reinterested in playing Call of Duty, Like I can tell you that, 627 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.039 Like I am just not a fan of like how the game plays. 628 00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.480 I understand there are people that really enjoy it. We have two cod people, 629 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:51.960 Nikki, I forget if you're a recovering cod nurse, and I worked 630 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.679 on one, so I'm out there we go. But like, I'm never 631 00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:00.199 going to get interested in it at all, And I don't know what they 632 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:05.719 could do to get me reinterested. And I'm assuming that audience can only that 633 00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:09.119 audience has to have plateaued or is going to continue to plateau and stagnate? 634 00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:14.719 Where like are you are these same people going to show up every single year? 635 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.440 I mean that happens for FIFA, that happens for Madden, so maybe, 636 00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:22.119 but like even then, does that audience just become increasingly disinterested? Like 637 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.960 where is what does the future? What does the growth look like for those 638 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:30.679 games? Or are they going to innovate other than just turning out modern warfare 639 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.159 black ops? Do they think that every well I know that they don't, 640 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.920 but like, do they think that every single that eventually a Call of Duty 641 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:42.079 is going to come out? That is going to be as big as the 642 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:46.320 first Modern Warfare two or alternatively is going to be as big as GTA six. 643 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.480 I mean, all they need to be at a certain point, right, 644 00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.119 is as big as the at least the last Call of Duty every year, 645 00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:59.480 which it mostly has done over time. And I think, and you 646 00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.400 know, they were also looking for spaces to grow Call Duty, so they 647 00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:06.400 had Called Duty Mobile and now they're having the Battle Royalite and mobile things like 648 00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.840 that. Yeah, and these things at least make a lot of money, 649 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.159 they do, but Call Duty's tapped out, like it's it's the room for 650 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.119 growth in for that series is not like there. So it's like, okay, 651 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:20.880 you have this reliable revenue generator, and it's it's so much revenue that 652 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:22.119 at a certain point, Okay, that's fine. That does pay for a 653 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.159 lot of other stuff. But these are companies that need growth. So it's 654 00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.440 like the Call of Duty question blingers just as hard as anything else. And 655 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.079 then I think, you know, to speak to Jan's point about like feeling 656 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.320 good about the games they're putting out, you know, I don't know what 657 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.360 they could do at this at this E three or next year to make me 658 00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.000 like forget about all this stuff and be like, well, I'm excited about 659 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.519 what Xbox has. Again, it's just that that doesn't seem like it's in 660 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.519 the cards because the studio is not going to exist next year, right yeh, 661 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.880 Because I'm like, I would I would need assurances that like, Okay, 662 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:54.199 well if Tim Shaffer comes out and not to something new, It's like, 663 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:57.760 okay, but isn't that just like any of these other studios that could 664 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.000 one day just get the plug pulled Josh Sawyer to make it another passion project. 665 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:06.679 Okay, you seem not too happy with Pentiment either. It just seems 666 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.400 just by you know, the fact that it's Obsidian, that that didn't have 667 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:13.880 the same fate as a High Fi Rush and Tango game works. And then 668 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.159 like on the big side, it's like, well, okay, you've announced 669 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.239 so many games and so many times they haven't hit the way that you promised 670 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.199 they would hit, So at this point announcing stuff just doesn't do anything anymore. 671 00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.559 Yeah, I just I'm not sure how to feel about this company at 672 00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:32.159 this point other than very very frustrated and sort of a little disgusted by the 673 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.119 way that they're How do you how do y'all feel that this may affect like 674 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:40.440 Microsoft's relations with other companies, Like, how does this affect Microsoft's working relationship 675 00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:45.599 with some studio or a whole company like Capcom? You know, like Capcom 676 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:51.000 is like buying into releasing games on game Pass. We've Path of Goddess was 677 00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:55.000 like really highly featured last year during Summer game Fest. Yeah, how how 678 00:46:55.039 --> 00:47:00.360 does this affect that? Like eave Sega even moving forward? I think, 679 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.559 you know, I think the reality is all these companies are just as ruthless 680 00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.119 underneath, right, So uh, they're not going to be like yeah right, 681 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.119 They're like well, yeah, well they all go to the same country 682 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:14.159 club, and they all have the same conversations about how they're the resources and 683 00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:16.679 resources is a way of referring to human beings, and they all want to 684 00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:21.440 have the same option to be able to lower how much they pay these people 685 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:23.480 and cut the jobs whenever they need to cut the jobs. So I think 686 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:28.679 the partnerships are gonna be there just the way they have been as long as 687 00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.800 Microsoft keeps signing the checks like that'stuff continue. I think that's the that's why 688 00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:36.199 we're in this situation and like that's right, Like you know, Nikki was 689 00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.719 right, Well, why not why buy activism? That what's the point? 690 00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:43.880 Like and like I understand it's expensive to license, Like I get it, 691 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:50.519 but it's like it would make so much more sense. It's just the system, 692 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.320 right, that's just capitalism. Like in a non capitalistic society, if 693 00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:59.360 you existed in a world where sixty nine billion dollars was not a cheap purchase, 694 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:01.639 right, then you don't have any of this. And actually, the 695 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:06.360 small studios that they were, that they acquired at first are allowed to flourish 696 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.840 and grow and make mistakes along the way, because that's what happens when you 697 00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:15.000 make art, right, like you fuck up, it's inevitable. But because 698 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.280 there has to be a number attached to this art that we are making. 699 00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:24.719 Because someone somewhere who doesn't know what video games are their car, their BMW 700 00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:32.119 is powered by whether or not Hi Fi Rush sells enough fucking copies it didn't 701 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:35.760 buy. It didn't sell enough copies. They can't get a new car. 702 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.480 Therefore they are mad at Microsoft. Therefore Microsoft has to make a decision. 703 00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.159 All of these fuckers are mad. We have to shut this down. It's 704 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:51.000 the only it's the only thing we can do. It just sucks, like 705 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:58.800 it just fucking sucks to live now. Yeah. Yeah, and we'll get 706 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.400 to we'll get to next year and a lot of stuff will probably start growing 707 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:08.239 again and the market will bounce back and that company boom times. You know, 708 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:12.400 of course, because the pendulum will swing. There's peaks and valleys that 709 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:19.719 has to and then and then the problem is is that everyone forgets. And 710 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:23.840 everyone is very charitable to like, you know, forgetting the past a little 711 00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:29.239 bit, because when things are good, they're good, and you know, 712 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:36.239 I don't know, it's it's it's just like, uh, we have this 713 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:42.320 thing that we are all attached to. It can be very bad, but 714 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:51.719 we're here. I don't know, Thanks for coming. Hell yeah, Well 715 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:52.880 we'll keep following this story. I'll talk about it more in game. This 716 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:58.039 morning's probably tomorrow, we'll see. All right, a lot more news to 717 00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.480 get through, let's just do it. Nintendo confirms it announce its next console 718 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.400 this fiscal year. Nintendo is confirmed that it will announce the next generation console. 719 00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.800 It did this during a basically a fiscal report where and then it came 720 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.760 out on Twitter and Shintaro for Okawa, the president of Nintendo, was like, 721 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:19.239 this is for Okawa. We will talk about Hey, yes, we 722 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:23.880 will talk about the next Yeah. Him and Mimoto both do it like this 723 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:28.239 is Miomoto, this is for Okawa. That's great. Uh. And he's 724 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.119 like, yeah, yeah, we're going to talk about it before the end 725 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.960 of this fiscal year. So by March twenty twenty five they will begin they 726 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.880 will announce it. Uh. And then he's like, there will be a 727 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.079 switch direct. We'll get to that more in a second, and that's not 728 00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:44.159 gonna have anything to do with switch to in June. So sometime after June, 729 00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.880 but before March, they will announce the next console. Now, he 730 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.480 was asked in a call with investors and like analysts, Hey, so how 731 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:54.519 would you describe this thing? Basically, it's what they asked. He's like, 732 00:50:54.840 --> 00:51:00.400 switch next model is the appropriate way to describe it? Yes, sure, 733 00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:02.880 okay, but yeah, but it's like, okay, that so they're 734 00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.880 not like saying like it's a whole new thing. This is them saying it's 735 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.679 a switch to. This is not it's not a switch pro right, people 736 00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.440 should not get concerned about a switch pro right. Yeah, and like okay, 737 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:22.800 but yeah, I think it's like, yeah, they had to do 738 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:27.559 this right, Like I think they were once the news came out that it 739 00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.159 was delayed for whatever reason, whether or not like the software lineup was not 740 00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:36.679 ready or the hardware was not like whatever, whatever reason. They were kind 741 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.519 of behind the horse, a little bit behind the cart. Which one is 742 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:44.400 it? What do you get behind or you can't put the car before the 743 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.400 horse? Yeah? Behind the eight ball is I think they got behind the 744 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:53.199 eight ball. It's a billiards thing, not not a cowboy billiards. Yeah, 745 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:57.199 exactly, they were behind the eight ball on it. They needed to 746 00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.960 get in front of the eight ball again, being like, hey, very 747 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:07.760 explicitly, we are announcing the seek the next iteration of the Nintendo Switch at 748 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.320 some time between now and March twenty twenty five, March thirty first, twenty 749 00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.519 twenty five, Like yeah, of course, thank you so much for saying 750 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:19.199 it out loud. Yeah, and this thing is probably in early parts of 751 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.840 manufacturing. That's the rumors that have been going around. So, yeah, 752 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:24.800 this thing's gonna leak, Yeah exactly, that's what That's also what it is. 753 00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.000 It's like we're getting out in front of the fact that this thing is 754 00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:31.639 about to fall out of every factory in China and like you're gonna see pictures 755 00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:39.199 of that electromagnetic suction device, pictures of the wearable watch that they've about all 756 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:46.199 of the different bands for jan Yeah, what if the wearables are not actually 757 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:51.599 a watch? What if it is like a early two thousands to mid two 758 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:57.480 thousands cell phone? Holster that you're aware? H yes, right, all 759 00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:02.519 right? Aund they are kicking around? Yeah, your phone. When they 760 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.679 called the Sidekick a hit, a hip top and a laptop, it was 761 00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.639 a hip top because you keep it on your hip. Nothing terrible happened to 762 00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:16.159 the person who coined that that company that the company that made the Sidekick was 763 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:22.199 called Danger, Danger Requirement Google, and then yeah, and then what happened? 764 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.199 And then what happened? And then and then he he left to do 765 00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:31.079 like didn't he do? The nothing phone is like the essential phone? And 766 00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:35.199 then and then what he do? Yeah? I don't remember, but I 767 00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.840 remember it being bad. He did a lot of sexual harassment he did. 768 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:46.719 That was hey, he said the company was dangerous to work at. Come 769 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:51.559 on, yeah, right now. Danger is a cool name. I think 770 00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.559 it's up there with panic, and that's it. Can we called can the 771 00:53:54.639 --> 00:54:01.719 D and DIBB now start or stand for danger? I think he always has 772 00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.880 all right, so yill, and that's this thing. I mean, honestly 773 00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:09.840 had this conversation a game Best Mornings yesterday, even though that was based on 774 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:15.960 like an erroneous thing, I saw the thing right before word yeah yeah, 775 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:20.079 and it was like and everything panned out exactly how we discussed me on that 776 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:24.159 show. So uh, pretty relevant. Still. They they will probably have 777 00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:28.360 a video of this thing here in a couple of months, and then they'll 778 00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.840 have the real like actual reveal either really late this year or early next year, 779 00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.159 and then this thing probably is out by March the way that he's talking 780 00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:38.239 about it, if he's coming out here saying this now thing is probably out 781 00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:42.639 by March. Think you think they're going to be on a higher rooftop this 782 00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.119 time? Like what's the that's the only option, right yeah? Space? 783 00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:54.800 Yeah, a moon elevator yeah yeah. Uh. I think the the other 784 00:54:54.840 --> 00:55:00.559 thing with the hardware is that with him saying switch next model, they really 785 00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:05.440 are just there's not gonna be a big surprises. Okay, you know how 786 00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:09.960 long has the Nintendo Switch been? Around seven years and nine years ago? 787 00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:14.280 Oh yeah, yeah, so so we we've had nine years now of like 788 00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.840 them starting all these Nintendo directs with like the their snap thing right of the 789 00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:24.320 switch shirking in what if it's just like because that's the magnetic section and then 790 00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:30.760 instead of like the the transition sound sucking sound. So instead of like the 791 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:36.679 video transitioning where it goes like switching down and snapping into place, it's just 792 00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:45.719 like coming from the side. Now it's Yeah, Kirby Tech called I think 793 00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:50.079 you guys are all off okay, but think about okay, but think about 794 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.880 this though. Think about this. The left joy con is Kirby's eyes, 795 00:55:54.119 --> 00:56:00.320 and the top of his mouth right joy con and the bottom of his mouth 796 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:08.639 and the green Yeah, so it's black enough to be yes, the void 797 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:12.679 of his mouth is he is he wet or dry inside? I asked this 798 00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:15.920 a couple of years ago on the by Twitter. But do you think that 799 00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:20.519 is wet? That galaxies? I think he's like, it's like a black 800 00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:22.320 hole. It is a black hole. Wetter cold, I don't know, 801 00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.320 or wet or dry? I don't know that's what you like? Cold? 802 00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:31.679 Dry? Dry? Okay, I'm gonna say dry. What what if the 803 00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:38.079 switch to is just a bop it extreme? Think yeah, instead of buttons, 804 00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:42.440 you have to flick it. I mean, Jane, you're joking, 805 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.639 but like there's a strong there's a non zero percent chance that the one to 806 00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.960 switch equivalent this thing launches with is something like a bop it. What if 807 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:58.159 they have a wheel wheels are real hot, Like there was like that AI 808 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:02.039 device that came out that like teenage Engineering also made like the Rabbit or something 809 00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:07.039 and then like a little wheelie deally. Yes, what if do you think 810 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:19.360 there will be any capability to connect a switch? Two? You put the 811 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:23.639 switch to in the dock and there's a projector app for an old switch? 812 00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:29.159 What turns it into a WEU? No? Oh, it's like so double 813 00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:32.559 dual screen sort of thing. Yes, I think they might have some sort 814 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.719 of solution for that. I don't know if that's the way it would work, 815 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:42.760 though, Mario Maker three and just switches cod Dickens I like that. 816 00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.039 I think they just sell a separate VMU. They licensed that from Yeah, 817 00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:51.559 and I just that's that's your memory. Uh, all right, Nintendo will 818 00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.320 have a excuse men Nintendo Direct in June, I slept the hell of my 819 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:57.880 mic but switch to won't be there. The company like said, hey, 820 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.719 this is going to set up the second half of the year for Switch games 821 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:05.639 for the rest of twenty twenty four. Uh, where where you all at 822 00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:08.079 on like the hype roller coaster are? Is this guy you feeling better about 823 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:12.679 Nintendo Switch for the rest of the year because as it stands, you know, 824 00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.960 we get Luigi's Mansion two in June and then there's nothing else announced. 825 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:20.320 Basically, I think there could be some big things here. Nah, after 826 00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:24.159 Paper Mario. Nah, I think after Paper Mario, that thing's going to 827 00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:29.920 sleep until March. Honestly, I think it's gonna be like a hand sleeper 828 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:34.239 Clips two. It happens, It has to happen, Like there's always a 829 00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:38.639 senioritis gap for a console at the end of its life cycle. It's just 830 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:43.079 what has to happen. Yeah, they go to the retirement home and we 831 00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:47.920 just all sit around waiting for it to die. Jez now, now you 832 00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:52.840 say that, but Nintendo's okay. So Nintendo shipped fifteen point seven million Switch 833 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.920 consoles last year and jan this is part of the more financial highlights, and 834 00:58:55.960 --> 00:59:00.639 they're expected to sell about a little bit more than thirteen million this year, 835 00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.519 so just a slight decrease. And and also are like how expecting to do 836 00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.880 that unless they have some pretty big games. I think maybe, Okay, 837 00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:12.840 what do you think is more likely? They will have some games that will 838 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:15.559 get people excited to still buy a switch this holiday, or price cut because 839 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:20.119 I lean towards games or more so, they're not gonna cut the price. 840 00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:22.760 They're not gonna cut the price of the regular switch until the Switch two comes 841 00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:27.920 out, So I think they're gonna dust wind Waker off the shelf. I 842 00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:31.000 think the switch light. I think the switch light gets a price cut because 843 00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:35.360 how much is that thing right now? Two fifty it's two. It's either 844 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.559 two fifty or two hundred. I think it might be two hundred if they 845 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:42.320 cut that thing to one. If they cut the switch light to one fifty, 846 00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.519 and then they're like, well, yeah, people just buy that for 847 00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:49.440 like like a single road trip, yeah, or you or bundle bundle a 848 00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:52.360 Pokemon game with it or something like that. People will leave that. People 849 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.960 will just leave that like in the leave a penny take a penny tray, 850 00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:04.440 you know, to be like you want this podcast, like thank you, 851 01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:08.239 thank you, cash those in baby, But I don't know, like there's 852 01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:13.159 another fire Emblem game maybe right, Yeah, stuff like that will finally happen 853 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:19.280 that Fire Emblem remake is rumored to actually finally happen the stuff like, yeah, 854 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.039 they did not put Zelda win Waker and a Twilight Princess HD on the 855 01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.519 switch, and maybe that could still happen. I don't know, I'm like 856 01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:37.119 still on yeah exactly. I do think it's fair that there will there will 857 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:42.320 be like one more software surprise that's sort of just like the last you know, 858 01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.400 thing to get it over the hump until Switch, the sequel to the 859 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:52.119 Switch. Yeah, maybe maybe we could see like another Pokemon remaster as well. 860 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.199 Right, maybe this is where you finally see let's go to right, 861 01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.920 something like that could actually still happen. It's it's you know, they didn't 862 01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:02.360 announce that that Pokemon direct a few weeks back, but I think there's maybe 863 01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:06.519 reason to believe that they could still like this, These numbers make sense. 864 01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:08.599 If there's a new Pokemon game this holiday, I think that alone will share 865 01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:13.679 it, so maybe we'll see Probably not, but yep, going back to 866 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.599 Joe Toe, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe Toe, he's out there 867 01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:22.960 doing his things. Thill. Okay, how many copies as Nintendo sold of 868 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:28.800 Mario Kart eight Deluxe in total? I know one hundred million. Thanky for 869 01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:32.360 give bomb, I'm sixty one point ninety seven million. Yeah, sixty two 870 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:36.599 million copies. And that's with another one point three to nine million in the 871 01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:40.199 last quarter alone. How many switches have they sold? One hundred and forty 872 01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:45.840 one point three to two million is excelled. Oh, that's real good. 873 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:50.119 That's that's third. That's third, only behind the DS at one hundred fty 874 01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:52.440 four million and PS two at one hundred and sixty million. And that's way 875 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.519 more than just everything, just about everything else. Now they do sell that 876 01:01:55.559 --> 01:02:01.280 thirteen million plus this year, that will put them right next to DS in 877 01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:06.480 terms of total sales. For the idea that they haven't sold as much as 878 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:08.679 the Nintendo DS is fundamental, like breaks my brain a little bit. Well, 879 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:15.239 that's pre it's a pre iOS world. That's a pre I. I 880 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.599 think that's more like a yeah, yes, the DS was a monstrous success. 881 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.639 That's like when they had the first real reload of Pokemon fans, right, 882 01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:27.760 they had all the Pokemon fans before, and they're like, and we 883 01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.639 know how to get a whole new generation of kids more than ever before. 884 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:35.199 And it all happened on the DS. They also released so many different kinds 885 01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:37.679 of Nintendo DS because you could That was when you could do that, though 886 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:42.440 I had like three different DS. Yes, that's something they they've been doing 887 01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.000 that from the beginning. DS. They really mastered that all right. A 888 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:50.360 couple other things from Nintendo. Let's see here. Yeah, the analysts think 889 01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:52.320 they could have big games still, but we'll see. If you look at 890 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:57.880 the chart for Nintendo Switch hardware sales per region, it's about on par with 891 01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:01.199 how it did in like fiscal year, but like Japan sales are more than 892 01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:05.280 double like it's still doing really well in Japan, so that's one of the 893 01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:09.320 reasons they probably are feeling pretty comfortable about keeping this thing going. Princess Peach 894 01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:14.199 Show Time and Donkey Kong or Mario Versus Donkey Jung both sold more than a 895 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.639 million units. Super Mario RPG has now a surpass three million units sold, 896 01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.800 Mario Wonder has sold more than thirteen point four million lifetime, and they did 897 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:27.920 one point five in the last quarter, so they're still selling million a million 898 01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:30.559 selling games each quarter, are still doing very well for them. A couple 899 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:35.119 of small tidbits. The Kyoto Nintendo Museum is finished, but it's not opening 900 01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:37.039 till the fall. Yes, Nick, we're going We're going right Backler, 901 01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:40.000 you're sending the whole crew out to Kyo. Yeah, that's right, that's 902 01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:44.079 right, Nikki, thanks for ruined the surprise. I just wanted to make 903 01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:49.000 sure. Sorry he said it. Did RPG sell more? The remake sell 904 01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:53.280 more than the original game? I think so, Yes, Yeah, I'm 905 01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:57.519 pretty sure that's that's the way it went down. Yes, because the one 906 01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.480 part of that is Super Mario RPG for the Super Nintendo came out pretty late 907 01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:04.239 in Nintendo's like Super Nintendo's life cycles, so I did not do its favors 908 01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:09.559 any favors Super Mario Brothers. The movie is the highest grossing illumination movie of 909 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:13.519 twenty twenty three. It's also it was the most profitable movie of the year, 910 01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:16.719 according to Ninteka. Crazy Yeah, and then there's a bunch of baby 911 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:21.920 Yeah. Yeah, apparently I saw it four times in theaters. But yeah, 912 01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:25.880 overall, Nintendo doing very well. I think they set a record for 913 01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:29.239 profits as well as is a company that's always been very profitable. At the 914 01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.039 very least, they're they're making a ton of money, like always, and 915 01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:35.639 they seem to have figured out how to like keep that going. Even as 916 01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:39.199 they get to the near the end of the generation. It's not like hurting 917 01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.719 their profitability, and they're making a lot of money on that thing. They 918 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.079 had a few other rumors come out about it Nintendo over the last week. 919 01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.679 They don't have anything to do with their financials, including Vicarious Visions was making 920 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.719 a three D Donkey Kong platform or game. The code was Donkey Kong Freedom. 921 01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:58.199 It was going to be like Donkey Kong Country and in three D. 922 01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.119 Hence the free him it was. He was also gonna be there. It 923 01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:06.159 mostly took place on January sixth, Yes, exactly. Yeah, ideas where 924 01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:12.960 was Donkey Kong is a good question. Donkey Kong would have been able to 925 01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:18.239 climb those walls better than Yeah. For sure, it was gonna have Diddy 926 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:21.960 Kong in it. Vicarious Visions seemed to be down for it. Nintendo seemed 927 01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:26.480 interested. Activision was like, no, go, we make more Call of 928 01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:30.199 Duty and they and they helped on that. Obviously. Vicarious Visions then eventually 929 01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.800 became part of Blizzard, But this was before all that. This was back 930 01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:36.320 when it was like, no make Call of Duty. Vicarious Visions basically made 931 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:40.719 Diablo, right, Is that like, is that the Okay, So yeah, 932 01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:45.280 they basically made Diablo I think they really helped with the Diablo to remake 933 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.280 and everyone was really happy with that or remaster whatever it was. And then 934 01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.760 they're like, oh, hey, you should really maybecome Helpless Diablo for. 935 01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.239 And that team basically went in and made sure Diablo For was as good as 936 01:05:56.239 --> 01:06:01.280 it was great. Uh. There's also a rumor unannounced Nintendo game that has 937 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:05.519 the code name Banquet. And this is from Madori, that leaker we've been 938 01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:11.159 talking about recently that's very good at Sega and Atlas rumors. Uh, so 939 01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:14.000 no one knows what this Banquet is referring to. Do you all have any 940 01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:16.400 guesses? Because I think I have a guess. I'm an idiot. I 941 01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:21.800 heard you say banquet, and then it registered in my head. Bank wet 942 01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:27.039 oh. I was like, okay, all right, so Kirby maybe Kirby's 943 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:30.960 dry and this bank is wet, yes, bank, Kirby Bank robbing game. 944 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:34.360 Sure, yeah, I know what it is. Please. It's a 945 01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:43.840 quadruple a expansion for the Likatungu Sushi game in Pokeon Stadium. Wow. I 946 01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:48.719 mean it's going to be a one and twenty hour long experience where you get 947 01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:57.360 to be each individual taste bud on the lickatungue tongue. So okay, well 948 01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:01.400 there you go, everybody. It's also possible it could be uh Mario at 949 01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:04.239 the Paris Olympic Games. Why would it be that? Why would it be 950 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.679 that? Why? Yeah? Why? Like? Why is that a rumor? 951 01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:10.800 Though? Like they always make that game like that's because it hasn't been 952 01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:16.039 announced yet. They haven't. They've never confirmed that that one existed. I 953 01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:20.639 think you're right about that. Yeah, Like what was the last Paris to 954 01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:27.039 Paris is this year? Yeah? Whatever? Like that thing? That one 955 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:31.360 had cool eight bit games in there, like you can all the time. 956 01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:35.719 There was like a two D fighter in there. There was like a very 957 01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:40.400 loose two D fighter and you could yeah, egg man and kick the ship 958 01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:44.760 out of Amy. That was cool, Jeff Becklar Do the Olympics still matter? 959 01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:48.679 Great question? Well are you asking me? Are they important or do 960 01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:51.119 they matter? These are two very different things. Can we get both? 961 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:59.320 Uh? They are not important, but they matter? Yes? I would 962 01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:02.960 be even agree. Okay, all right then, but it's only the Winter 963 01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:09.000 Olympics as well. That's nobody gets hot Olympics wrong. Incorrect but I do 964 01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:15.880 think that hot Olympics sports. The hot Olympics Olympics sounds like something that happened 965 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:20.760 on the Chive dot com. Yeah, exactly, gross. I do think 966 01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:28.560 that the Olympics has the opportunity to hit a little bit like eight does, 967 01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:34.479 because I think the Americans are in the sports that we are good at, 968 01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:39.560 are going to be very good in a way that we haven't been since two 969 01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:43.039 thousand and eight. Wow, you keep track of this closer than I do. 970 01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:45.960 What does that mean? Our basketball is going to be very good? 971 01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:50.520 Will be pretty pissed poor lately? Right, We've been okay, we've Europeans 972 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:54.640 got good at basketball. Europeans got really good at basketball. And I think 973 01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:59.239 that tournament, tournament wise, is going to be really good. We're really 974 01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:01.720 good at swimming again. Oh yeah, figure that out. That's good. 975 01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:05.479 We figured. Yeah, after Michael Phelps. There's a girl Michael Phelps, 976 01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:13.279 Katie Ladecki. She's great. Our gymnasts are great again. We took a 977 01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:16.159 fat l to China couple right the last time. Yeah, but now we 978 01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:19.359 got Livia done, so get fucked. Yeah, our soccer is going to 979 01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:24.399 be great. Soccer is the only thing I really paid yeah, so it's 980 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:26.960 going to be a good Olympics. I think, Okay, you heard her 981 01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:33.560 first folks skateboardings in the Olympics. Skateboardingsoh we're going to lose, but it 982 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:39.920 was so sick in Tokyo. Also, like it's the first Olympics with people 983 01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:44.880 since Rio, so like, I think that it's going to be huge too. 984 01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:48.000 Like no one watched the twenty twenty Olympics because they were a in twenty 985 01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:51.600 twenty one and boy could go, so like, I think, I think 986 01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:56.119 this Olympics is going to be pretty sick. And then we have the ones 987 01:09:56.279 --> 01:10:00.800 after that in Lah Yeah, oh cool, Well all right, you've got 988 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.760 your work cut out for you. Yeah, Calvin Vos says, is Livy 989 01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:06.920 Dunn even Olympic gymnasts And I don't, I don't care. Who knows. 990 01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:10.840 I don't. Yeah, it's impossible to know. I need You don't need 991 01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:14.560 to know until Bob Costas tells you to care, right, yeah, once 992 01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:17.439 Bob Costas now comes on your TV, and yeah, absolutely lose. The 993 01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:20.840 skateboarding so bad. Oh, we're gonna lose for like the next fifty years. 994 01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:25.720 They're like so good in South America and in like Japan and a bunch 995 01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:30.520 of places. Yes it's nuts, but hey, Skateboarding and Activision rejected Tony 996 01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:34.000 Hawk's pro Skate three plus four in favor of supplementary call of duty work. 997 01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:40.199 It's claimed this was also part of like the Vicarious Vision stuff. They were 998 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.720 originally gonna add three and four to the original game. They're like, oh, 999 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.000 okay, instead, let's just put some of the moves into one plus 1000 01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.239 two and then we'll make three and four later. One or two sold better 1001 01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:50.039 than any Tony ok game before, so they assumed, hey, we'll be 1002 01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:54.560 able to make that. And they're like, no, go help with call 1003 01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:57.840 of duty and then go help Diablo. Those are that's your job. Now. 1004 01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:01.880 That's said. I I have heard some rumors that maybe something's happening with 1005 01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:08.319 Tony Hawk's so I'm hopeful bully if they right, Like, yeah, there's 1006 01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:12.560 there's a there's a bit of a gap. A skate flour seems like it's 1007 01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:16.039 not going to come out until twenty twenty nine, twenty six, like somewhere 1008 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:20.079 in that way, some there in that range. This game sold more than 1009 01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:26.680 any of them have ever sold. Nope, and so like it's really good. 1010 01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:29.119 It's really good. I hope they just are able to make three plus 1011 01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:32.560 four that way. Just really worry that they might follow like the weird Tony 1012 01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:39.079 Hawk pattern of having something really good and amazing and just like fumbling the bag 1013 01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:45.119 so hard and an activision or Microsoft being like, let's revisit Tony Hawk ride. 1014 01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:50.520 Yeah, connect his back. Yeah they'll I think they'll play it's safe 1015 01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:53.439 for this next one. But you're right, if they try to keep making 1016 01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.399 Tony Hawk after that, who knows all this off? If they want to 1017 01:11:56.439 --> 01:12:00.640 add skateboards to Call of Duty, that might get me back. Hmm. 1018 01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:02.560 Okay, there you go. Kind of make it call like Fortnite with each 1019 01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:06.880 That's that's a great, great point. I would feel so differently about this. 1020 01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:10.920 I call Duty was different in every single way. Yeah, if it 1021 01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:14.439 was a bit different game, I would feel different Duty, right Yeah. 1022 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.119 Uh. The Witcher three's official mod editor launches this month. CD Project Red 1023 01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:21.800 will release the official mod editor, the Witcher three Red Kit for the Witcher 1024 01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:26.680 three Wild Hunt on May twenty twenty four. Uh. Boy, that's a 1025 01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:30.079 game that's just gonna live forever. Huh uh. Not like a huge Witcher 1026 01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:31.000 fan, I tried playing Witcher three. I played it for a while. 1027 01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:33.640 It's just didn't click with me. Yeah, I thought it was a little 1028 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:38.760 boring, But people like this game a lot, and boy mods is seems 1029 01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:41.039 like a good way to get people to like keep coming back to it. 1030 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:44.439 There's already I'm sure a ton of mods for Witcher, but having the tools 1031 01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:47.199 will make that a lot easier and should increase the number and availability of them 1032 01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:51.319 going forward. Uh, let's see. Hell Divers two PC players have started 1033 01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:57.479 an operation to reverse negative reviews. Hell Divers two players have launched Operation clean 1034 01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:01.800 Up to flood the Steam page with positive review after Sony reversed its controversial plan 1035 01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:08.560 to require a PSN account for PC players. The community had protested the requirement 1036 01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:12.319 by flooding the page with negative reviews, but now they are attempting to reverse 1037 01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:15.720 that protest and restore the game's user scores. The player base still has a 1038 01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:18.479 long way to go, but more than seventy two thousand positive reviews have been 1039 01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:23.399 uploaded since May sixth, that's yesterday. This is good news for the developer, 1040 01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:27.000 Arrowhead Games or Airhead Studios. After a tough week of criticism. There 1041 01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:29.560 was more than like two hundred thousand negative reviews, so yeah, a long 1042 01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:36.720 way to go step resist yah steep video. Yeah, did you think it 1043 01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:40.920 made much of a change change? Or was it like once people started refunding 1044 01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:45.560 the game and once that started more like and it got delisted from Steam into 1045 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.720 one hundred and seventy countries, that's what does it? And like now you're 1046 01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:55.159 it's like such a weird apologia, right, It's like, oh we were 1047 01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:59.560 we maybe probably took it a little overboard. It's like, yeah, you 1048 01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:02.199 did so weird frish cleanup. It's like it's like, oh, we made 1049 01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:04.840 a huge mess in the street, but now as you clean it up, 1050 01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:09.840 yeah, we're going to clean it up, but not to the it's still 1051 01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:14.000 gonna be dirtier than it was before. Yeah. Yeah, is this help? 1052 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:17.319 And things aren't like this isn't like changing everything going forward. A Ghost 1053 01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:20.960 of Sushimom on PC. While it doesn't require a PSN account for the single 1054 01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:24.720 player game, because that would be nuts, they would definitely get roasted for 1055 01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:30.119 that, they are still requiring one for the online Legends mode, the cooperative 1056 01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:32.159 mode that they added to the game after came on PS five after a few 1057 01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:36.479 months or PS four after a few months, that will require a PSN account 1058 01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:41.640 still, so all not really all that different, although I guess the difference 1059 01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.560 series like this will be available and you'll have to sign in right when this 1060 01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:46.800 game launches, whereas with Hell Divers two that was only up for like a 1061 01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:49.199 half a day and then they got rid of that to help with the connection 1062 01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:55.359 issues. Sure, Resident Evil nine could be released in January, it's claimed. 1063 01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:59.760 According to insider Dusk Gullum, Resident Evil nine is set for an early 1064 01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:02.439 te twenty five release and should be revealed soon. The insider claims that the 1065 01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:06.479 development began in twenty eighteen as one of the potential options for Resident Evil eight, 1066 01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:11.680 but when Resident Evil Village took that spot, they shifted development back over 1067 01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:15.640 to this after some time and Receival nine reportedly is the most ambitious title in 1068 01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:18.680 the series, with the biggest budget and longest development time. It's also one 1069 01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:23.760 of the games that's reportedly going to be a more open world. It's going 1070 01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:27.399 to be using the same tech that made Dragon's Dogma to open world. So 1071 01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.920 we'll see how that. Where are they going to put the the numbers? 1072 01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:35.159 Oh, the number nine they go back. It's like they just flip the 1073 01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:39.680 draft upside down, right, So the draft blow dropping out just being dude. 1074 01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:43.600 It's actually that is true. That's a different that's a whole different sexual 1075 01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:47.520 position for that diraffe than I all. It's new brand all contortionally speaking. 1076 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:53.359 But no, like it's super easy because it's IX, Like IX is the 1077 01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:59.319 easiest thing. Rexit in evil? Is that what you're saying suggesting like rexident 1078 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.439 evil? You know something cool? I X like, I don't know put 1079 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:06.439 the word in there. They did it for village, they'll find it for 1080 01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:15.399 resident people's krillics. I don't know what they're to do, like with the 1081 01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:21.239 I NX capital, Like, oh boy, that's pretty good. Yeah. 1082 01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:26.079 Capcom's gonna have uh dragons, they had dragons on with two. They're gonna 1083 01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.880 have Monster Hunter Wilds that's already confirmed. That's coming out relatively soon. And 1084 01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:32.640 then this game coming out early next year lines up with how they've done this 1085 01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:38.960 stuff in the recent past. So this isn't too surprising, especially believing that 1086 01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:42.520 it's been in development for so long. What are your hopes for Residubal nine? 1087 01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:44.680 Uh? I guess the big question do you want it to be first 1088 01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:46.720 person like seven and eight, or do you want them to make a departure 1089 01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:51.039 from that, I don't care, like they could do whatever they want because 1090 01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:59.039 with you, yeah exactly, like talk about just like consistency and uh, 1091 01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:04.479 reputation, like it is just been a magnificent one after the other since seven, 1092 01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:09.239 which I guess is only two but you know, yeah, but I 1093 01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:15.039 mean like it's been a it's been a as close to a flawless track record 1094 01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:17.960 as you can really pull off in this in this industry. So I welcome 1095 01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:19.560 all of it. And people are like, oh, what do you mean 1096 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:24.159 open world? That's crazy? Well, like you know, eight was basically 1097 01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:27.960 open world in a lot of ways, like you could decide, Yeah, 1098 01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:30.880 you could decide like which bosses to kind of go to next, right in 1099 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:34.319 some way? Right, Yeah, just remembering that it doesn't matter this, 1100 01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:39.000 I don't care. Do what you need to do. I will be happy. 1101 01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:42.159 I'm just I need this in my life. It's the only real game 1102 01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.560 that I kind of look forward to anymore. If we're being honest, Give 1103 01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:48.520 me a big boat, Okay, Okay, do you want to do you 1104 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.560 want it to take you places only? Or do you want to pilot the 1105 01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:58.560 boat? May maybe we get like a snow piercer situation. You know was 1106 01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:03.359 there was there a a big cruise ship in Resentable Revelations or Revelationships. Revelations 1107 01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:06.520 was about a boat, right, let's go back to the boat. The 1108 01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:10.960 beginning was the boat. Okay, hey, yeah, just visit the boat? 1109 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:13.439 Sure? Why not? Yeah? And there's boat stuff at the end 1110 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:15.079 of isn't there boat stuff at the end of the boat stuff? One of 1111 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:21.000 them? Two recently? Uh, like seven or four had some boat stuff 1112 01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:24.840 definitely like getting like a boat at the end of Resue four and yeah, 1113 01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.920 driving all the fire and stide seven. Yeah, seven had boat stuff at 1114 01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.119 the end. Thank you, bacha Ard, don't lie, you said the 1115 01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:32.600 only thing to get excited about Resident Evil. You also get excited for Batman 1116 01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:38.079 Arkham Shadow announced in coming exclusively to the Metaquest three. Yeah, you had 1117 01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:41.880 me until Metaquest three, but I feel like, you know, I have 1118 01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:44.279 a meta Quest three. I play it. I think it's really impressive. 1119 01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:49.079 I think it's fun. But uh, if for me to get excited about 1120 01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:51.880 a Batman game, it's it's like a it's like a non VR Batman game. 1121 01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:55.399 I'm going to list all of the interactions in this game. Are you 1122 01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:58.600 ready? You're going to pick something up you're going to go like this, 1123 01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:00.640 You're going to rotate it and you're gonna be like wow, and you're gonna 1124 01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:03.359 detect yeah, and then you're gonna do a detect and then you're gonna press 1125 01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:08.039 a button on the controller and it's gonna turn your home into detective mood. 1126 01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:12.479 And then the Riddler is going to be in your house, and then you're 1127 01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.600 gonna walk up to like your desk, and then you're gonna like pick something 1128 01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:18.680 up, and it's gonna be like, oh, the Riddler is Riddler, 1129 01:19:19.279 --> 01:19:21.600 and then he's gonna be like, oh, I'm scary. And then you 1130 01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:25.279 put it down, and then you're gonna pick something else up, and then 1131 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:28.399 you're gonna rotate it a lot and you're gonna put it back down and that's 1132 01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:32.960 the whole game. So this would be better if it was nineteen sixties Batman, 1133 01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.399 right. I thought, you're like, it's gonna say the nineteen sixties, 1134 01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:42.399 and like, yes, this would be advanced technology. Crub like holding 1135 01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:46.239 up a cartoonish bomb over your head, running around a pier right in the 1136 01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:49.800 big red phone that commissure Gordon calls you on and stuff like that, Like 1137 01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:54.800 I don't need another Arkham version of this. Yeah, if it was close 1138 01:19:55.199 --> 01:20:00.319 job simulator than it was to a real Yeah, this was Alfred game, 1139 01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.560 you know. Okay, God, that would be so fucking sick. You 1140 01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:08.199 have to cook this, yes, and it's just like you have to cook 1141 01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:10.680 him. You have to cook him food, you have to clean, get 1142 01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:14.319 the vacuums. It's just job sitting leader, except your Alfred. But you 1143 01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:15.920 could. You would still be doing heroic stuff like you would find out like 1144 01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:19.640 oh, like it's like Inspector Gadget right where Penny's actually the one doing all 1145 01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:24.239 the stuff. It's not in the field. I mean, let's not in 1146 01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:28.680 the field like he's Yeah, he helps like Batman remembers, you know, 1147 01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:32.840 special bulletproof underwear or whatever. Typing right, Yeah, Okay, I'm into 1148 01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:38.920 it. This is being developed by Camouflage that people did Republic and Iron Man 1149 01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:42.359 VR. If that does anything for you, I I just I know myself, 1150 01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:44.720 No way I'm gonna play this game. I like the medical way. 1151 01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:48.479 Okay, there's not no way, but I'm it's very unlikely. I'm never 1152 01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:51.079 going to decide. But even if they send me a code, because I 1153 01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:54.399 definitely had like some of the YR games, I'm like, Oh, I 1154 01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:58.560 should go play that. I just don't. Yeah. I think you think 1155 01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:08.560 Batman plays like in his costumer Yeah? Probably? Okay, last story here, 1156 01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:12.840 bad saber? That's good? What here? Here's Here's what I wrote 1157 01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:15.640 down for the headline. What does the Drake and Kendrick beef have to do 1158 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:19.279 with the PlayStation showcase? Great question? A rap feud between Kendrick Lamar and 1159 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:25.439 Drake has gained much attention online rumors suggests that Kendrick's next track is being held 1160 01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:30.439 back due to a marketing conflict with Sony's rumored May PlayStation showcase. Oh this 1161 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:34.479 has taken such a lame turn. The claim originates from a Twitter post by 1162 01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:40.319 Real Radick, who alleges that DJ Academics, a known Drake supporter, a 1163 01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:45.319 known Drake deleted an Instagram posts suggesting that this was happening. However, the 1164 01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:48.119 lidy of this claim is in question, as Real Radick is a less known 1165 01:21:48.159 --> 01:21:54.479 figure. The story specify could easily be disproven if untrue, and Kendrick's recent 1166 01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:58.119 release of four tracks in four days adds to the doubt. So is the 1167 01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:03.880 theory that can Drick has another song in the hopper, but he also has 1168 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:09.960 a deal with Sony. But what is what is what could he have possibly 1169 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:15.000 said in this MP three that is disqualifying him from releasing it? That isn't 1170 01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:18.920 gonna make Sony If this is also this is also true, it also like 1171 01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:24.920 removes so much sort of like fun and credibility from like all this ship, 1172 01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:28.319 right, it just strips it of its like authenticity. Well, I mean 1173 01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:32.399 but I don't think it's true. Oh it's not true. O. Cool. 1174 01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:36.760 In the diss he gives us the number of Terra flops and the release 1175 01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:45.159 date and like exactly the right there. Yeah, it is a pack in 1176 01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:54.279 with the PS five pro. This is just just this is the point of 1177 01:22:54.359 --> 01:22:56.359 like, hey, yeah, this is how absurd. Thanks for getting out 1178 01:22:56.359 --> 01:23:01.119 there. That PlayStation showcase is happening this month still apparently, but whether it's 1179 01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:04.560 next week or the week after, I honestly don't could be the end of 1180 01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:08.960 the month, but I won't be surprised this does actually happen next week. 1181 01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:13.239 It could happen at any moment. I don't think Kendrick Lamar will be involved, 1182 01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:16.039 but who knows. We'll see, We'll see. All right, that 1183 01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:18.359 does it for the news, jan I'm handing the show back over to you 1184 01:23:19.279 --> 01:23:28.760 half what holy ship, big news astro Boto? Okay? What is the 1185 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:34.640 why train? That's a great question, the big Sony crash. They don't 1186 01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:45.199 own him anymore. No, that rap that that uh demot oh it is? 1187 01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.479 Ok is that him? Is that they? Okay? So he's one 1188 01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:55.359 of the big three, So calm. He part of the and then Gary 1189 01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:58.680 siffenfilter yep, yeah, there we go. Oh and there's four. Actually, 1190 01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:04.560 Derek Kills is the James kills him. What's what's the sife Fielder guy's 1191 01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:18.560 name? Gabe? Okay, Danger Gabriel, Gabe Logan. Okay, listen. 1192 01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:24.119 Kendrick is not even signed to Sony. He's a Universal music group. 1193 01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:28.039 Man, it's called a crossover. Hey you they could still pay them. 1194 01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:39.479 I don't think they would. What if it's the rapper, but it's Kendrick 1195 01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:45.479 as the voice of that's pretty cool. I'm back in. And instead of 1196 01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.039 like like cut chop, cut chop, it's just what what what? Yes? 1197 01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:53.680 Yes, yes, yes, all right, Sony, let's let's talk 1198 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:57.239 and then he can and then the rapper can say I'm whooping feet when he 1199 01:24:57.439 --> 01:25:02.479 kills cradles. I love yeah, disputable, I love everything about this, 1200 01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:05.720 We're gonna go take a quick bricky break because that was a long news segment, 1201 01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:09.880 and then we'll talk about video games. I guess right after this, 1202 01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:15.640 you know, with all this talk about the Kendrick Lamar and Drake Beef and 1203 01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:18.199 j Cole getting out of it, Rick Ross stepping in it, stepping out 1204 01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:25.880 of it, Metro Boomin just inciting violence, Jeff Grub, I think you 1205 01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:30.279 would have a very very good seawalk. I would, yeah, And like 1206 01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:33.159 I could just imagine, like you know, we we run up to the 1207 01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:39.560 live show on June ninth at the Bellevue Theater, tickets available now get get 1208 01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:44.760 them while you can, folks, and then like maybe it's maybe it's Emma, 1209 01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:49.800 maybe it's Nikky, maybe it's Dan introing the show. And then like 1210 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:56.640 we we we say like and now you're host, Jeff Grub, and then 1211 01:25:56.760 --> 01:26:00.479 like we play the Kendrick song or for whatever reason, one of them, 1212 01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:03.640 and then like Grub just comes up, like shoulders up, and then like 1213 01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:09.159 he takes he pulls out a bandana out of his back pocket because has changed 1214 01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:14.039 him, and then he swipes the shes and then like he he he gigs 1215 01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:17.520 and like he does Nikky. What if Grub hit the smeez and then he 1216 01:26:17.720 --> 01:26:25.319 landed in his chair? How much budget do we have to get a choreographer? 1217 01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:28.720 What's that budget? Like? There? No, we have plenty of 1218 01:26:28.720 --> 01:26:32.640 money there. We'll just pull up a TikTok between you and YouTube video right 1219 01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:35.880 now, walk for beginners, A nice British ladies tell me how to do 1220 01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:44.279 it? Basically, Oh God, I bet you, I bet you. 1221 01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:46.880 Lucy James can can can see walk? I bet you? Yeah? Absolutely 1222 01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:51.399 totally totally, man, God, yeah we should. We should just come 1223 01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:58.119 up with a choreograph number for the big show. Actually like it coming, 1224 01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:04.560 the big Show's coming? Uh? Kind of his knees really messed up, 1225 01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:11.760 looking Yeah, just one that one of them. It's like we're pronated, 1226 01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:19.039 almost like pronated where it's like plas no, don't he hit me with the 1227 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:30.159 pro Lashka. Okay, cool, very cool, Everything's very cool. Everything's 1228 01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:34.840 awesome. Manor Lords is a game that has been blowing up on the internet. 1229 01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:38.880 Jeff, Grub, you played it last week? Uh? And then 1230 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.119 because of the pleasant time you had, Nikki was also hanging out, so 1231 01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.920 is lucky. Uh. I tried to get into it, Grub, I 1232 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:50.920 really tried. I fired enough. What's your history with city builders? Non 1233 01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:55.359 existent? Pretty much like you know, I'll dip into a sieve. But 1234 01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:59.840 sieve isn't quite the same as like how manner lords is. But grub you 1235 01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:01.640 see like you're having a great time. Yeah, I mean, here's the 1236 01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:04.920 thing. Do you have any bastard children? Janachoa? Not that I know 1237 01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:09.079 of? And that's why you're not a dad. I mean, what else 1238 01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:14.640 there's no responsible answer? Yeah, I look, it's a dad game. 1239 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:16.479 It is, And it's it's hitting that where I'm like, Okay, I'm 1240 01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:19.319 in charge of my little town and management and I got well, I need 1241 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:23.119 I'm gonna need some more OX and let's let's get to work on that. 1242 01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:25.279 Oh to get that, I need to do this and this and that, 1243 01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.920 and that bar is filling up, and now I get to sit here and 1244 01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:30.159 wait enjoy the fruits of my labor. And while I'm doing that, I'll 1245 01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:32.199 think of three other things I want to do. And the good thing about 1246 01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:39.600 the game is it's very it's it does a really good job of making every 1247 01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:45.520 one of these actions have a strong visual representation on the screen. So when 1248 01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:48.800 that when that OX is carrying that log, across town. Someone is standing 1249 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:53.000 right with with with that ox and they're they're walking it and they it has 1250 01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:55.960 to physically walk over there. And then once the log is in place, 1251 01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:59.680 a builder will come over and use it to actually build the building. And 1252 01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:04.319 all those things being so visually represented makes it easier for the abstraction to sort 1253 01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:09.000 of meet you as a player and give you that strong sense of dopamine. 1254 01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:12.319 Is like, Oh, I'm accomplishing something. The decisions I've made to place 1255 01:29:12.359 --> 01:29:15.079 this building next to that the set of supplies is paying off because the building 1256 01:29:15.119 --> 01:29:18.399 is getting built even faster than it would have otherwise, and all those like 1257 01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:24.920 small little decisions build up to make everything feel that much more satisfying. I 1258 01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:27.520 haven't had much more time to play it, really, I really want to. 1259 01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.840 I did finish Mini shoot Adventures, so it's like I have a little 1260 01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:31.720 bit more time now. That's one of the things I want to get back 1261 01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:35.840 to. But yeah, I see why it is taking off with so many 1262 01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:39.840 people. It's a genre that has, you know, a few entries here 1263 01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:44.119 and there, and I think people just want slight changes and then they want 1264 01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:46.319 a lot of attention to detail, and that's what this game has lots of 1265 01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:50.159 little details, and it feels like the developers fully understood what the assignment was 1266 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:55.560 with those things, and the lording around in there is pretty good. Yeah. 1267 01:29:55.640 --> 01:29:58.439 Yeah, you could press walking on the keyboard and you can walk around 1268 01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:00.159 as the lord and just like stand by peop while they're doing their work and 1269 01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:04.800 you have a peak. Yeah yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, okay, 1270 01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:10.600 grubbing your experience with city Builders? Is this any more approachable than others are? 1271 01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:15.079 I mean, I think they have a pretty decent onboarding ramp, where 1272 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:16.800 you know, there's definitely things where it's like, Okay, what does this 1273 01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:19.920 do? That's how these games go. You need to sort of just experiment, 1274 01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:24.479 and at the very least, it didn't feel too punishing, where when 1275 01:30:24.520 --> 01:30:26.560 I'm like, oh, I didn't know how to fully take advantage of this 1276 01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:30.119 thing, mostly because it's like, Okay, the big things going into the 1277 01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:32.439 winter are do you have enough food and do you have enough fuel? And 1278 01:30:32.479 --> 01:30:34.520 it's like, Okay, that seems like that could have been a problem if 1279 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:36.920 we've got to winter and that wasn't set up. But I was able to 1280 01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:41.079 like process that pretty quickly with the help of chat. But it's like, 1281 01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:43.840 once I'm like Okay, I need logs. Oh I thought I had logs. 1282 01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:45.960 Isn't that fuel? It's like, no, no, you need firewood. 1283 01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:47.520 It's like, okay, that's right there in the bar, the guy 1284 01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:51.159 that makes firewood setting that up right next to the stockpile of wood, and 1285 01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:55.840 go from there, and it's all that stuff is like it makes sense. 1286 01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:59.000 It's like common sense. And then the game like does a pretty decent job 1287 01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:01.439 of making sure that it's you in the direction of making those right choices. 1288 01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:05.560 So I feel pretty good about that. It's not like Babies first city Builder. 1289 01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:09.319 Honestly, if you want one of those, and babies is like, 1290 01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:11.479 you know, a pejorative. I don't mean it that way, but that 1291 01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:16.199 Steam World Build game is very does a lot to like sort of funnel you 1292 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:19.680 into the right decisions, and then it has the whole other layer of and 1293 01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:24.239 then there's sort of a defense game happening on the bottom layer under underground and 1294 01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:27.119 things like that to keep you busy. So I was really happy to play 1295 01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:30.680 that. But this one is like fulfilling actually the fantasy of running a town 1296 01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:33.000 better. And so this one feels like it's going to have a higher ceiling 1297 01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:38.159 for me personally, and there's a stink meter. Well yeah, I mean, 1298 01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:43.079 listen, it's a stinky time. And I knew that because Mike Natty 1299 01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:45.159 was there telling me that's why he doesn't like the look of the game, 1300 01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:48.039 because it looks like people smell. He's right, He's right, right. 1301 01:31:48.439 --> 01:31:55.159 Yeah, I'm curious to see what I guess late a late game level or 1302 01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:58.760 map would look like Grub because when you zoomed out of your little instance there, 1303 01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:02.439 it was pretty as yeah, and like I was playing in the sort 1304 01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:06.600 of no battling mode, but apparently like there's a second mode that's for people 1305 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:09.720 who have played through that already if you want a little bit more of a 1306 01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:13.479 challenge. It's like you can be building your town in this region, and 1307 01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:16.239 then other towns in other regions might come and do something. I don't know 1308 01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:18.439 the attack. I'm not exactly sure how it works, and I know you 1309 01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:20.880 could take over those towns. I don't know if it's just by force. 1310 01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:25.079 It seems like you can also do like the cultural victory thing where it's like, 1311 01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:27.680 hey, we just got a better religion than you. Now everyone wants 1312 01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:30.960 to be part of us or something like that. So yeah, I'm interested 1313 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:33.640 to see how that all plays out. Our God is cool. Yeah, 1314 01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:40.720 we got those cool guys. Our God is a cool god. Well, 1315 01:32:41.079 --> 01:32:46.199 well, you have been building a civilization and climbing up the ranks in terms 1316 01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:51.920 of building a lovable, beautiful, slightly smelly town. I have been climbing 1317 01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:56.680 a mountain in Surmount. I played a little bit of this too, neat 1318 01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:00.920 do y'all? Remember Donkey Kong, King of Swing? I think about it 1319 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.560 every day. Fantastic, I'm finally that's why you and I get along. 1320 01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:09.319 So uh where in King of Swing you are Donkey Kong and you are pretty 1321 01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:13.279 much just controlling with the shoulder bunts to swing around. Yes, that is 1322 01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:18.520 surmount pretty much. But instead there is an accessibility option for you to auto 1323 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:24.800 swing depending on which arm you grab onto something with. But with the your 1324 01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:28.920 arms are controlled by the shoulder buttons and you're swing controlled by by the shoulder 1325 01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:30.760 buttons. Right in this one, it's a little bit different. Yeah, 1326 01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:34.560 keep going and then you're swinging around and using that momentum to propel yourself and 1327 01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:40.079 to like catch on with your your hands. Again, climbing game is really 1328 01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:44.880 hot, really really hot. I like climbing in games in general. Uh, 1329 01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:46.960 like I like like the Quop came out, and then they had GARB, 1330 01:33:47.079 --> 01:33:50.560 which is like the it's like Quap but climbing. I really love that, 1331 01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:55.439 and I like some of the climbing VR games. I was really looking 1332 01:33:55.479 --> 01:33:57.039 forward to this. I was trying to I'm like, oh, it doesn't 1333 01:33:57.039 --> 01:33:59.239 feel exactly like king a swing, so I'm like, it's gonna take a 1334 01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:01.399 second for me to get into it, I think. But overall, I 1335 01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:03.960 think they did a pretty good job. I like that. You know, 1336 01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:08.319 it is okay, you have your your grip here and then you want to 1337 01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:10.760 get over to this next part of the wall where you can grip it again, 1338 01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:14.319 but there's a gap and you need to swing in a circle to get 1339 01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:16.880 enough momentum to have the physics carry you over and you grab the wall once 1340 01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:19.760 you're there. That move in general is something I like, and I think 1341 01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:24.439 they do a pretty good job with executing it. Yeah, because it's realistic, 1342 01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:28.479 right, that's how you climb right, spin around. Yeah, I've 1343 01:34:28.479 --> 01:34:30.920 been to a bouldering gym before. People constantly do That's what I'm doing every 1344 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:36.359 fucking time. Yeah. Yeah, my shoulders don't work. You you have 1345 01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:40.359 to balance your stamina and there is occasional points where you can kind of like 1346 01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:45.119 hook on, similar to Juice, where you can kind of let go and 1347 01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:51.319 just like dangle for a bit to just help recover some stamina. There's the 1348 01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:57.119 neat part is that there are some regular boundary walls that you can just climb 1349 01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:00.760 up to and you can kind of cartwheel your way up. This game is 1350 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:03.560 more involved than I thought it'd be, because I was assuming this would just 1351 01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:09.079 be kind of like a fun, neat platformer, like what's the other climbing 1352 01:35:09.079 --> 01:35:17.319 game where you can fart on your friends? Your friends the farting climbing. 1353 01:35:18.239 --> 01:35:24.079 Yeah, I thought it'd be more simplified like that, But it turns out 1354 01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:29.439 there's a whole less story insurmount that I was not expecting. That you kind 1355 01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:38.840 of activate a a cursor like a god climbing god or whatever. I haven't 1356 01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:43.840 gone super deep in yet. I've just done a couple missions. It seems 1357 01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:49.039 like there's there's there's a bunch there and they're playing around with the different materials 1358 01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:50.960 you can climb up. They do the thing like in King of Swing, 1359 01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:58.319 where there's certain pegs that you can climb up, certain types of walls where 1360 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.279 you recover stamenough you hold on to them. So I'm interested to see if 1361 01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:06.119 this game is supposedly like eight plus hours, how you're going to stretch out 1362 01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:10.880 that climbing mechanic and fill that out with stuff. They have things in the 1363 01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:14.600 early levels where there are these air rings that you like, if you swing 1364 01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:16.920 yourself into, it'll provide you a little bit of a momentum where you kind 1365 01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:25.079 of like zip through them all and you find a little Pathman exactly like Superman 1366 01:36:25.199 --> 01:36:31.960 and Sonic, the two of the Big Three. And then there's also like 1367 01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:35.159 a little quest you're doing. You're you're meeting a bunch of like weird dudes 1368 01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:40.279 as you're climbing through these levels mountain climbing. That's what happens when you do. 1369 01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:44.800 I've seen Free Solo. Yeah, it's a bunch of little weirdos everywhere. 1370 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:48.520 It's it's neat. I think the thing with this game, though, 1371 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:55.479 it doesn't feel quite the best playing it on Steam Deck, and I don't 1372 01:36:55.479 --> 01:36:59.199 know if that's just because of the analog sticks. I was having a better 1373 01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:02.119 time when I was using a dual sense on my my PC. Okay, 1374 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:08.159 but I also suffer from that thing similar to when we all play double Dutch 1375 01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:14.439 where the hesitation to jump in yes, factors into the hesitation to let go 1376 01:37:14.520 --> 01:37:17.880 and actually get the right momentum in the swing never look go. So I 1377 01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.520 think that's where I suffer from, and you should maybe should not play this 1378 01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:27.920 game under the influence of anything, because you start to tense up and you 1379 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:31.039 just never let go and you just keep swinging spin for you, just spin 1380 01:37:31.119 --> 01:37:33.720 forever. Do you think it would be better if if the name, instead 1381 01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:39.239 of being Surmount as like you're surmounting an obstacle, if it was Sir Mount 1382 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:46.039 Si r Mount and that was the character's name. Yeah, okay. Can 1383 01:37:46.079 --> 01:37:49.680 you imagine like you're just clinking, clunking around with a pseudo armorless whole time. 1384 01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:54.840 Uh. The neat thing with Surmount though, is that the physics in 1385 01:37:54.880 --> 01:38:00.000 it are a factor in super duper hard. So if you have a very 1386 01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:04.880 weird anchor point of where you're climbing, latching on and swinging and your legs 1387 01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:09.800 might hit like a nearby wall, they will hit the nearby wall and factor 1388 01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:12.560 in where it's like, ah, crap, like oh, this is gonna 1389 01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:15.359 mess up my momentum. And the mess up part though, is that it 1390 01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:19.199 also factors in your anchor point rope. So if your last anchor point was 1391 01:38:19.239 --> 01:38:24.399 super far away and that rope is just stretched out as you were swinging, 1392 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:27.920 you are pulling out more of that rope, so that rope is just slapping 1393 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:32.800 the wall as you're going through slap you know good? Like, Yeah, 1394 01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:36.239 it's neat. I think I'll stick with it and and see how far I 1395 01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:41.439 can climb up this hill. I forgot that there were bosses in Donkey Kong 1396 01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:45.720 King of Swing, so I'm wondering if, yeah, maybe Surmount is gonna 1397 01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:51.119 throw in similar things. I saw the dev saying that obviously King Swing was 1398 01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:55.359 a massive influence, so I wonder what else they might have pulled. You 1399 01:38:55.359 --> 01:38:58.600 can eat fruit in this game as well. Is this game out or is 1400 01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:01.880 it in really access I want to say it is out. Okay, yeah, 1401 01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:05.920 I think it's out, and I am going to turn on that accessibility 1402 01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:09.680 option you said where it's like, so if I hold down, if I 1403 01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:12.720 grab with R and I hold that down, he'll keep spinning in the right 1404 01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:16.199 directions direction point which way you want to go with the analog stick? Okay, 1405 01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:20.399 okay, cool, So instead of like constantly spinning it, which does 1406 01:39:20.439 --> 01:39:27.079 get tiring after a while, especially if okay, dumb thumbs like me just 1407 01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:30.600 holding that. But it wasn't it didn't feel quite well playing it on the 1408 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:31.880 Steam deck. I didn't try that out with like the dual sense, so 1409 01:39:31.880 --> 01:39:34.960 maybe it'll be a little different. Okay, I'm I'm mess around with a 1410 01:39:34.960 --> 01:39:38.640 little bit, because I was definitely like I like in King of Swing, 1411 01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:40.680 where it's like you're just you're holding the thing and you just spin on the 1412 01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:42.920 whole time and you just got a time it and that's it by letting go 1413 01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:46.119 and then you grab again to grab. Uh. This is it's pretty similar. 1414 01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:48.479 But I'm just it just wasn't what was what I was expecting. So 1415 01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:50.920 I think I'm gonna try to fudge with it a little bit more. There's 1416 01:39:50.960 --> 01:39:56.000 also a multiplayer mode that maybe we should check out on an over that'd be 1417 01:39:56.039 --> 01:39:59.720 great. Yeah, that's a good idea. Another game, speaking about Unprofessional 1418 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:04.359 Fried Days, that we all checked out, was a a Biotic Abiotic factoryiotic 1419 01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:11.840 A. Yeah, sure, this is it's it's a crap. It's a 1420 01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:18.159 crafting survival half life. Yeah. You are in a scientific facility that has 1421 01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:23.439 had something bad happened. There are monsters, and you need to go through 1422 01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:28.239 a bunch of processes to uh continue building stuff so you have the ability to 1423 01:40:28.279 --> 01:40:33.840 survive. It's multiplayer, and it has the what the trend right now of 1424 01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:38.840 of proximity voice chat, so you know your voice is gonna echo and you 1425 01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:42.319 can hear people around the corner and things like that. And I thought, 1426 01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:44.439 I thought it was pretty interesting. I think it's one of those ones where 1427 01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:45.840 like, oh, we need to be playing a lot longer to get to 1428 01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:48.800 the meat of it. It's not like some of the like Lethal Company or 1429 01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:53.319 Content Warning, where it's like it's immediately you understand what you're going on these 1430 01:40:53.359 --> 01:40:56.399 runs and every run has its own value. It's like this you are, 1431 01:40:56.640 --> 01:40:58.720 you know, building up to the point until you have like one of the 1432 01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:01.680 later weapons and stuff like that, and like we all have roles, Like 1433 01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:06.279 I think you were didn't factor in. That was the thing, like it 1434 01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:12.079 felt, and I think for us right like we are we are playing this 1435 01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:15.000 game, yes, but also we are playing for a game for an audience, 1436 01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:19.520 right right. It changes the way that we interact with the game and 1437 01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:23.720 interact with the systems, by which I mean I didn't look to see what 1438 01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:28.279 any of the fucking abilities that I had. So like, I'm sure if 1439 01:41:28.279 --> 01:41:30.079 we were playing it differently and a little more intentionally, it would have felt 1440 01:41:30.079 --> 01:41:35.760 better. But it did feel very slow to like get going. And every 1441 01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:40.399 time it felt like we were moving, we would hit a wall that would 1442 01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:44.159 be like, oh, actually, now we need to craft this thing, 1443 01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:45.680 and it would do one thing you have to do to other things, and 1444 01:41:46.399 --> 01:41:50.199 every with every single thing. Yeah, but I think there still seemed to 1445 01:41:50.239 --> 01:41:55.039 be a decent amount of you know, emergent fun with us interacting with each 1446 01:41:55.039 --> 01:41:58.199 other or the world, and you know, my character pooping himself because I 1447 01:41:58.600 --> 01:42:01.399 find the negative character trait of well I have a small bladder and that was 1448 01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:05.560 a big problem. And yeah, it was fun and funny. It just 1449 01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:11.079 isn't like the immediate crowd pleaser some of these other games that it looks similar 1450 01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:15.800 to, right, I think if we we did spend more time with it, 1451 01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:17.399 and maybe if we didn't have as big of a group, maybe we 1452 01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:20.800 had four people versus six, we could kind of define the roles a little 1453 01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:26.560 bit better. Speaking about the proximity voice chat, something that this game that 1454 01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:30.800 does I absolutely love is it has like mouthflap, and not enough games have 1455 01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:35.800 I saw some of that mouth flap in it, yes, but really watching 1456 01:42:36.039 --> 01:42:42.560 Mike's character mouthflap around and he looks like a one from one like my high 1457 01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:45.920 school theater teacher, and it just freaked me out. That's the cool dude, 1458 01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:50.359 right, that theater teacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah he Also I'm 1459 01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:53.920 going to say a game of the year because it lets you sit in a 1460 01:42:53.920 --> 01:42:59.319 wheelchair and it properly a wheelchair. I just heard. I heard you and 1461 01:42:59.399 --> 01:43:02.399 Mike go and and I look around and see you guys rolling away. Okay, 1462 01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:08.039 this is a good game. Yeah, I think it needs maybe a 1463 01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:13.159 little bit more of overt handholding though, Yeah, I think so. Yeah. 1464 01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:15.319 So what we did have is like there's an on screen icon as a 1465 01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:19.039 waypoint, and were you all seeing that or is that just me? I 1466 01:43:19.079 --> 01:43:24.279 would only see the waypoint for like the workbench. Yes, oh okay, 1467 01:43:24.399 --> 01:43:26.239 okay, so that okay, well, see, you know what, I'll 1468 01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:29.199 take some of the blame. I thought you all could see that, so 1469 01:43:29.279 --> 01:43:30.840 I just assumed, Okay, we all know we're kind of the general area 1470 01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:33.239 where we're supposed to be going, and everyone else is just goofing off. 1471 01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:36.960 Okay, So I should have been like communicating that more because the game it 1472 01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:40.079 was my world and I could have said, hey, we need to be 1473 01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:42.399 going over here, and I did a couple of times, but again I 1474 01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:46.000 assumed everyone saw that. So I think that is like the handholding idea of 1475 01:43:46.039 --> 01:43:47.920 like, Okay, here's the general idea. You're gonna have to figure out 1476 01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:53.119 how to get there yourself, because it is like a stitch together world where 1477 01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:56.720 you're gonna be making shortcuts and solving those problems. Yeah, it was also 1478 01:43:56.880 --> 01:44:02.880 so long ago that we had so like I oh sure, sure, but 1479 01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:08.720 yeah, either definitely, only remember that it was Friday, it was third 1480 01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:15.840 it was like seven pm. I think, no, it was it at 1481 01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:20.039 the very least. I think that they probably will speed up some of those 1482 01:44:20.039 --> 01:44:26.000 things a little bit more and early access. Yes, it's the early access, 1483 01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:27.760 and I think they'll figure it out. I think they have a strong 1484 01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:30.960 foundation though. I like what they're going for. Maybe give everyone a weapon 1485 01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:35.920 please? Yeah? Yeah, but that would reduce my power as the security 1486 01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:40.199 guard because I started with a billy club, and really I think I should 1487 01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:44.880 have the weapon. You died first, Well, no, because Mike Naughty 1488 01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:46.479 murdered me. He pushed me off and it killed me. Right, we 1489 01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:49.159 have video proof of that. That's what That's what I and that's how I 1490 01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:54.079 remember it. Greb, do you still have that uh voice drop of Mike 1491 01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:59.520 talking about a treasure trove of duct tape? I probably do somewhere here. 1492 01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:01.199 Let me see out. Nope, it's it's off the coxlar. I could 1493 01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:04.880 see that all the buttons are dim Damn damn well, lost another one. 1494 01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:14.039 Damn uh well, mister Grubb, since you may not have been properly guiding 1495 01:45:14.119 --> 01:45:15.640 us, it seems like not only were you the lord of this manner, 1496 01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:18.319 but you also may have been the master of our doom. And you've been 1497 01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:24.439 checking out Masters of Doom. Yeah. I read that book because of Dai 1498 01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:28.680 Katana, which I'm playing for Blake Club. I got curious about mister Romero 1499 01:45:28.840 --> 01:45:31.479 and his exploits. And I've heard a bunch of times how good that book 1500 01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:36.760 is, and it is fantastic. It is really really good. It was 1501 01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:40.760 like the entire story was riveting. They're all, you know what, turns 1502 01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:44.279 out, all kind of punks and assholes in their twenties when they were making 1503 01:45:44.319 --> 01:45:45.880 games, and it's like, I wonder which one of these guys are going 1504 01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:48.479 to be kind of the bad guy in the situation and they all just took 1505 01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:55.479 turns being the one another. It's how it went down. I think it's 1506 01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:59.680 a fascinating time, right nineties and early three D computer graphics and honestly early 1507 01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:02.760 because like, these are the people that got scrolling and working on on PC 1508 01:46:02.960 --> 01:46:05.840 with Commander Keen, and then they figured out three D with Doom, and 1509 01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:10.960 then they figured out full three D acceleration with Quake and reading like oh yeah, 1510 01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:14.319 John Carmack was just making the engine and John Romero was one guy that 1511 01:46:14.319 --> 01:46:16.119 could really make that those engines sing. It's like, oh yeah, these 1512 01:46:16.119 --> 01:46:20.159 guys were really were that talented, and it was it was pretty cool to 1513 01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:24.880 read that story and see how it all built up and then fell apart and 1514 01:46:25.079 --> 01:46:28.920 sort of ended with hey and Diakatana's coming, and people don't really like that. 1515 01:46:29.800 --> 01:46:31.439 So yeah, I recommend that book. And that did get me like 1516 01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:34.800 wanting to go back and check out a bunch of other ID games. So 1517 01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:38.720 I have played a little bit of Commander Keen and I've been playing some Doom 1518 01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:42.560 and Castle Wolfenstein and stuff like that, so just in an ID mood, 1519 01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:46.520 and who could blame me? After playing some di Katana for you love good 1520 01:46:46.600 --> 01:46:50.479 video games here. That's right, That's that's right, taste. I can't 1521 01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:58.760 get the visual of you screaming and Discord just cutting the audience out of the 1522 01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:05.560 stupid one like I like I watched the from that first episode of uh Grub 1523 01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:14.359 Grub Katana. Yeah, it's all now, we can't that. When Mike 1524 01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:19.560 tricks you into walking into that fucking laser fence, his reaction could power a 1525 01:47:19.720 --> 01:47:28.239 sun. Oh it is so good. It's so peopure, like you could 1526 01:47:28.239 --> 01:47:31.520 feel like all. Oh, everything he has said in the last like ten 1527 01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:34.399 to fifteen minutes has been leading up to this point. As soon as I 1528 01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:38.359 walked in this room and he started shouting, sew do you remember this? 1529 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:42.960 Do you remember this? I should have known something was up. And then 1530 01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:46.479 he gets some like poker face after that the entire time, So I don't 1531 01:47:46.520 --> 01:47:48.760 know, maybe just struggling through the door. I don't know. Maybe we'll 1532 01:47:48.760 --> 01:47:53.439 be safe now, Like okay, he you know, for folks who don't 1533 01:47:53.479 --> 01:47:56.840 know, Mike has a very long headphone cable. Uh, and I in 1534 01:47:56.920 --> 01:48:02.039 my head just saw him actually rolling around the floor. Yeah, he became 1535 01:48:02.199 --> 01:48:08.840 a raffel copter. Yeah, that was a special moment in what was a 1536 01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:11.319 pretty good stream. Maybe people should go check that out if they happen. 1537 01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:16.000 Yes, a new episode hitting Hitting. I gotta I gotta set up the 1538 01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:29.159 game scent what No, don't tilt it. No, it's dirty? Used, 1539 01:48:32.159 --> 01:48:41.840 why is it wet? That's the game juice Nikki's that. This was 1540 01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:44.880 sitting on my kitchen counter and I'm like, ship, I don't want to 1541 01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:47.079 deal with this. So I came down and just did my job, and 1542 01:48:47.119 --> 01:48:53.159 that come up later and my wife was like, what is this? What 1543 01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:57.520 is this fucking abomination? Both me and your daughter touched it and now our 1544 01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:00.439 hands wreak, Like, yeah, that's the game set. Sorry, orifices 1545 01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:08.079 are like leaky, I don't know, leaky gaming holes, disgusting in the 1546 01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:12.039 trash. So I got Now I gotta smell Katana. What do you think 1547 01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:19.960 It smells like mosquitoes, tire fire. Oh I should not have actually, 1548 01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:26.560 Oh, I'm like that is I am kind of upset and not just now. 1549 01:49:27.439 --> 01:49:30.199 If you look on this podcast, that'd be all right for the audio 1550 01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:33.159 listeners. For the audio listeners out there that that have never seen a game 1551 01:49:33.239 --> 01:49:36.479 sound and made oh boy, grub, it's just recoiling. It's on my 1552 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:47.880 hands ew okay, uh game of the week yees to do that? Do 1553 01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:50.399 that? That just came out. I mean, how much could anyone have 1554 01:49:50.399 --> 01:49:55.439 really played it? That game? He played thirty five hours the video game 1555 01:49:55.520 --> 01:50:01.399 haities to what what for about a week? What I looked at my theme 1556 01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:05.960 friends list, I was like, oh, tarm played this much. Uh, 1557 01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:09.159 so and So played that much. So and so played that much. 1558 01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:14.119 And then I see Nicholas Grayson and I'm like thirty three hours. So okay, 1559 01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:15.960 So here's what happened. So I think it's actually probably closer to like 1560 01:50:17.159 --> 01:50:24.920 fifteen hours. But I left my PC on over night once and I wasn't 1561 01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:27.840 playing the game, but the game was running, so I counted the kind 1562 01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:31.560 of so I put in like fifteen hours. I did see Chris Person playing 1563 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:34.159 a lot like over the last week when we got we got the codes, 1564 01:50:34.199 --> 01:50:38.319 and I was I'm like, man, Chris is playing a lot forty five 1565 01:50:38.399 --> 01:50:42.359 point three hours for pop a p sho oh boy, that's crazy. Yeh, 1566 01:50:43.800 --> 01:50:46.600 folks, they really went and just made more hades and like fundamentally, 1567 01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:50.000 the thing that's so nuts to me that I was like kind of afraid of, 1568 01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:56.399 I think, is that like for a game I wouldn't call Hades perfect. 1569 01:50:56.920 --> 01:50:59.960 It's close, though, like legitimately, I do think it is close 1570 01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:06.640 in insofar as, like with the intentions that it has for what it wants 1571 01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:11.479 the player to do and the story that it wants to tell and the way 1572 01:51:11.520 --> 01:51:15.680 that it wants to tell it through both narrative and mechanics. I think it 1573 01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:21.520 hits every fuck it like that first game. I think hits every single mark, 1574 01:51:21.880 --> 01:51:26.439 right yep. The fear that I had when they said we're making a 1575 01:51:26.520 --> 01:51:29.760 video game called Hades too, I was like, okay, but like, 1576 01:51:30.880 --> 01:51:33.560 he did it so good the first time, like you could just walk away 1577 01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:38.560 from it and never touch it. And then Greg and his friends were like, 1578 01:51:38.680 --> 01:51:40.359 no, no, no, no, no, sweet summer child, 1579 01:51:41.119 --> 01:51:45.479 Honey. Well, honey, what I've got for you is simply more Hades, 1580 01:51:45.840 --> 01:51:49.239 and yeah, you could see more. Haites said, you know what, 1581 01:51:49.279 --> 01:51:53.159 Greg, you were right. Yep, you were right. If you 1582 01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:57.520 just make more Hades, it's gonna be good. Milina Way is Zag's sister. 1583 01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:03.680 She's a witch. So it changes up fundamentally your your ability set and 1584 01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:10.800 changes your cadence, which I think is really important in these fights. It 1585 01:52:11.760 --> 01:52:15.920 I don't fucking know, dudes, like it's so good, Like it feels 1586 01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:20.279 just as crunchy as the first one. There's so much more, there's additional 1587 01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:25.319 and like I think that, like my fear coming into it was like, 1588 01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:30.720 oh, it's early access, right, Like how how it's it's gonna stop 1589 01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:31.680 after the first But no, no, no, no no. If they 1590 01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:38.800 put this game out today, yeah, I think it would go crazy. 1591 01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:42.560 Did they literally say it at this moment has more content than Haities Won? 1592 01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:46.000 Yes? Yeah, And and they still they're not as far as like the 1593 01:52:46.079 --> 01:52:50.439 stuff that they've said, it's not gonna come out this year probably right, 1594 01:52:50.479 --> 01:52:56.399 if it comes out this year is coming out in December, So okay, 1595 01:52:56.920 --> 01:53:02.159 that seems all good and fine, but also like, can someone give me 1596 01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:09.680 like a really compelling reasoning for like early access in this specific example, like 1597 01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:15.479 it better, but your game seems to be beyond early access right away. 1598 01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:18.119 But no, I think they're like, this is the early access version of 1599 01:53:18.159 --> 01:53:20.399 Hades two, and this is where we're starting, and we're going to make 1600 01:53:20.399 --> 01:53:25.600 it better. I mean, look, I guess it's just a label thing, 1601 01:53:25.720 --> 01:53:30.800 really exactly, It's just a label. Yeah, Like I would say 1602 01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:33.920 for most people, if you are curious by Hades two. You could play 1603 01:53:33.960 --> 01:53:38.319 it now almost certainly, play through all the content that is there and feel 1604 01:53:38.359 --> 01:53:40.600 like you got a full game, and then when War comes out, it's 1605 01:53:40.640 --> 01:53:44.840 like, oh episode two is here, or or the DLC is here. 1606 01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:46.399 Basically, look at it. Look at however you need to look at it. 1607 01:53:46.439 --> 01:53:48.199 But I think you're going to be able to have a really good time 1608 01:53:48.199 --> 01:53:53.399 with this game as it stands right now without any of the concerns that people 1609 01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:57.039 typically have about early access, which I personally think are overblown to begin with, 1610 01:53:57.039 --> 01:53:59.960 but I get it's a mental thing for a lot of people. Under 1611 01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:04.479 then where you're coming from this specific example, those things are just not really 1612 01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:09.920 a concern. Yeah you Yeah, if you play the video game haites to 1613 01:54:10.199 --> 01:54:13.680 call an early access right now, you will have a complete experience, and 1614 01:54:13.720 --> 01:54:17.319 like, I just think that that is how it goes. There will just 1615 01:54:17.359 --> 01:54:21.520 be more of it later, yep, yeah, I mean right as of 1616 01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:27.680 right now, there's when you when you go to like the weapons selection little 1617 01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:30.920 screen area, there's like, yeah, what two three, Yeah, there's 1618 01:54:30.119 --> 01:54:33.760 there's a couple of weapons that aren't there, Like some of the characters don't 1619 01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:38.920 have art or models yet, and you're like, oh, like oh yeah, 1620 01:54:39.039 --> 01:54:42.000 like you're still working on this, but also fundamentally, it feels like 1621 01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:45.079 there's three little video games in this video game, and like every time it 1622 01:54:45.520 --> 01:54:49.399 like, I, how spoilery do we want to get? Cause like that's 1623 01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:53.720 That's one of the things that I do struggle with, like in conversation about 1624 01:54:53.720 --> 01:54:58.920 it, is that like I don't want to talk too far because I've played 1625 01:54:58.960 --> 01:55:01.000 so much of it. People aren't gonna want to hear the story spoilers. 1626 01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:04.279 But there's like, uh, you know, gameplay spoilers. I think those 1627 01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:08.079 are to me, I care about more about those than anything, but I 1628 01:55:08.119 --> 01:55:10.640 should probably get away with some of that stuff. I don't know. I 1629 01:55:10.680 --> 01:55:15.960 here's here's how I'll frame it. You are the game has it does a 1630 01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:20.279 really good bait and switch on you where it's like, oh, like you're 1631 01:55:20.359 --> 01:55:24.119 like, oh, there's it's it's simply more hades. I go down, 1632 01:55:25.479 --> 01:55:30.319 I go down to get out, and then you get to the doorway where 1633 01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:34.079 you go down, and then to your left or behind you there's there's up 1634 01:55:35.960 --> 01:55:41.199 and then you're like, okay, now what's this? Now? What could 1635 01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:45.039 this possibly be? And then you like get through the thing and they're like, 1636 01:55:45.399 --> 01:55:48.800 I think you should go up, and then you go up, and 1637 01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:53.159 then there's just there's there's more fucking video game up there. You just go, 1638 01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:57.079 oh, so you go down and then they're like, oh, actually, 1639 01:55:57.199 --> 01:56:00.920 like you remember Hades, You remember how when zag would go up to 1640 01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:09.800 the planet and the planet Earth. It's like little Nikki right when it's exactly 1641 01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:15.239 like that. You go up and then and then and then there's a little 1642 01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:23.000 curated like run based thing where you play one stage and the game tells you 1643 01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:26.560 what items and boons you get, and it's rare. It seems to be 1644 01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:29.279 randomized. And this part isn't as fleshed out. This is a part that 1645 01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:33.680 it's like there are only three of these things. But like when you go 1646 01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:39.439 up, it's open. It's like branching like dead cells, and you can 1647 01:56:39.560 --> 01:56:42.039 pick paths, and some of the paths if you go down them, it 1648 01:56:42.079 --> 01:56:47.359 cuts off other paths. It's like I was so like, oh, like 1649 01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:55.000 I didn't even think about up as an Okay, it's fucking good, y'all. 1650 01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:57.840 The music is the game I'm playing now, this is it. I'm 1651 01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:00.640 all in, Like I'm I don't care about any other stuff. I just 1652 01:57:00.640 --> 01:57:02.920 want to be playing more Hades too. Yeah, one and like they have 1653 01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:08.640 really I have not gone as far as Nikki, but the parts where I 1654 01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:14.520 have gone two, they've they've like I don't want to say perfected because that's 1655 01:57:14.680 --> 01:57:19.039 very generous, but like they have really nailed the loop aspect. Yeah, 1656 01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:23.279 where even in Hades one, I, when I had a bad run, 1657 01:57:23.319 --> 01:57:27.000 I still felt like I made some type of tangible progress because you know, 1658 01:57:27.039 --> 01:57:30.920 you could further advance your little relationships you're getting whatever, et cetera. But 1659 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:39.000 here, because of the different I guess, different available currencies or different mats 1660 01:57:39.039 --> 01:57:43.840 that you were grinding for your subtool that you're bringing out to each run, 1661 01:57:44.279 --> 01:57:46.920 right, it winds up mattering because of like okay, like I have enough 1662 01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:53.600 silver, I guess I'll just switch it to this other tool instead. And 1663 01:57:53.600 --> 01:58:00.640 and it has The other thing about like that mechanical stuff is that you can 1664 01:58:02.119 --> 01:58:06.800 It's so interesting because you know how in Haites one, when you would really 1665 01:58:06.840 --> 01:58:10.600 feel like you were going on a good run and it felt like the game 1666 01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:15.199 was like seating you boons that were conducive to the build that you were making. 1667 01:58:16.039 --> 01:58:20.039 Now each boon has an element. Yeah, so there's earth, water, 1668 01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:24.840 fire, air, and then the fire Nation attack et cetera, et 1669 01:58:24.920 --> 01:58:30.199 cetera. And each of those boons they give you a credit basically, so 1670 01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:33.520 if you get like you like, you can have like two air points depending 1671 01:58:33.520 --> 01:58:36.920 on which God is giving you the boon, two airpoints and an earth and 1672 01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:44.000 whatever. Then they're in. They're called infusions boons. And if you have 1673 01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:48.119 x number, so if you say you have four or above earth, it 1674 01:58:48.239 --> 01:58:53.560 gives you like an epic modifier on all of the boons. So it's like 1675 01:58:54.399 --> 01:58:59.840 it it incentivizes you to as you build your as you create your build, 1676 01:58:59.880 --> 01:59:03.800 as you're going through, pay attention to like so many different factors. There 1677 01:59:03.800 --> 01:59:09.359 are perks. Now you have a perk bar. There's so many fucking meters 1678 01:59:09.399 --> 01:59:11.960 in this game. You have a you have a thing called Grasp and you 1679 01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:15.199 have ten it's ten points, and you go up to this thing and there's 1680 01:59:15.560 --> 01:59:18.279 a thing of tarot cards and it starts as six tarot cards. And as 1681 01:59:18.279 --> 01:59:20.560 you start, I was like, oh cool, like what a cute little 1682 01:59:20.600 --> 01:59:24.439 like, oh it's an early access. There's like six little cards. You 1683 01:59:24.560 --> 01:59:28.840 unlock one card and it unlocks another card like diagonal both ways, and then 1684 01:59:28.840 --> 01:59:31.239 you unlock more cards and on that screen is so fucking big for me. 1685 01:59:31.319 --> 01:59:35.479 Now there are so many kids growing. I have a question about so many 1686 01:59:35.520 --> 01:59:40.840 modifiers. I don't I don't understand the currency for that, so that so 1687 01:59:41.479 --> 01:59:45.479 go no, go ahead, jen Uh. It starts with with ash or 1688 01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:50.840 like the like the the white whisky stuff. Yeah, goop ok, And 1689 01:59:50.840 --> 01:59:55.319 then you get that depending on which route you choose. Yeah, right totally 1690 01:59:55.359 --> 01:59:59.560 in arabis right. Uh. You there's other means of acquiring that as you 1691 01:59:59.600 --> 02:00:04.479 go along, and then you spend that ash to get those specific cards and 1692 02:00:04.720 --> 02:00:11.680 Nikki, it's primarily like that's the uh what you use ash for, right 1693 02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:15.560 is yes, unlocking the cards. Yeah, and then there are some recipes, 1694 02:00:15.680 --> 02:00:17.159 you know how like in Haites one you would go to the store and 1695 02:00:17.199 --> 02:00:19.199 be like, I want to buy this, like because she's a witch. 1696 02:00:19.199 --> 02:00:24.000 There's a big cauldron in the middle of the that a bunch. Yeah. 1697 02:00:24.039 --> 02:00:27.680 So like sometimes the ash will be used as an ingredient there, but mostly 1698 02:00:27.720 --> 02:00:30.800 it is for the tarot cards. And then in those tarot cards is where 1699 02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:40.279 you get like a death defiance or it'll be like your cast is like twenty 1700 02:00:40.279 --> 02:00:45.640 percent bigger, but each of them, each card has a point value attached 1701 02:00:45.640 --> 02:00:47.880 to it. The thing I can't figure out and it's maybe maybe. Oh 1702 02:00:47.880 --> 02:00:50.199 wait, so you can only have so many cards unlocked at a time. 1703 02:00:50.600 --> 02:00:55.680 You can only activate so many cards. Yeah, that's what I'm That's the 1704 02:00:55.720 --> 02:00:57.399 thing I was was hanging me up. I'm like, I think I have 1705 02:00:57.520 --> 02:01:00.000 enough to unlock this thing. No for to give me the Yeah, you 1706 02:01:00.039 --> 02:01:04.479 can only have turned on the card. I'm this is something that I'm confused 1707 02:01:04.479 --> 02:01:09.000 about. Now I get it. I don't know if you can unlock. 1708 02:01:09.239 --> 02:01:13.079 It is literally the pick ten system from Call of Duty. Yes, actually 1709 02:01:13.079 --> 02:01:18.439 it is exactly. And then there are cards that are like, you can't 1710 02:01:18.560 --> 02:01:21.880 use this card unless you have a card that is worth one, two, 1711 02:01:23.039 --> 02:01:26.479 three, four, and five, and then that will crocs the sixth. 1712 02:01:28.000 --> 02:01:30.479 Oh. Christian is saying in chat that you can upgrade the power liamit I 1713 02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:31.880 don't know how to do that. Can you please message me on Twitter to 1714 02:01:31.920 --> 02:01:38.119 tell me how to do that? Please? This game is great and it's 1715 02:01:38.159 --> 02:01:43.000 so it feels feature complete, and I think that's the thing where I really 1716 02:01:43.159 --> 02:01:48.479 want folks to not take this experience away from themselves by being like I don't 1717 02:01:48.520 --> 02:01:53.439 want to play an early access game because A it's bullshit. It doesn't matter 1718 02:01:53.720 --> 02:01:59.199 play the game again later, but also it does not feel like it is 1719 02:01:59.279 --> 02:02:04.000 not complete. You will have such a robust and complete experience playing the video 1720 02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:11.880 game Haites two. You can then be cheaper now than when it was. 1721 02:02:12.439 --> 02:02:17.960 When it comes out, it's gonna be charged three hundred dollars. There's also 1722 02:02:18.199 --> 02:02:23.600 so much where it is right now, yes, right, like it is 1723 02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:27.680 not only like really like with that tarot card system, there's like a different 1724 02:02:27.840 --> 02:02:31.720 like objective system like hanging in the background as well that you're also taking care 1725 02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:34.840 of, and it feels like you're just constantly making progress as you were playing 1726 02:02:34.880 --> 02:02:41.079 the game. Yeah, that's that's huge because in Haites one, there definitely 1727 02:02:41.159 --> 02:02:45.760 were runs where you came back and felt like you would get a little bit 1728 02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:48.239 of a voice, like a little bit of a conversation where you would feel 1729 02:02:48.279 --> 02:02:51.439 like, oh, like that that was that was the run. It was 1730 02:02:51.520 --> 02:02:55.000 kind of short. Everyone's gonna they're not gonna make fun of me, but 1731 02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:57.520 they're gonna be like, I died in two seconds, huh. Get good? 1732 02:02:58.199 --> 02:03:02.079 But now, like you still have those conversations as conversations still do exist, 1733 02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:06.840 but you did make progress on at least something You can plant stuff like 1734 02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:15.439 you can collect seeds and each engagement, each encounter is uh time is like 1735 02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:18.560 time for those seeds to grow. There are recipes that take x number of 1736 02:03:18.640 --> 02:03:25.520 encounters to proc like every single action, even if you have a bad run, 1737 02:03:26.760 --> 02:03:30.319 it did something for you. Yep. That's that's the thing for me 1738 02:03:30.399 --> 02:03:33.479 about about Hades and now Hades too is seeing like them, understanding the potential 1739 02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:39.000 of the loop and using every ounce of the loop. I mean, Jen, 1740 02:03:39.079 --> 02:03:42.279 you talk about like the sub weapons and having your subtool get you know, 1741 02:03:42.319 --> 02:03:44.479 getting the pick and realizing, oh, now that I'm out there, 1742 02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:45.760 I have another thing to do. And it's like, Okay, they're just 1743 02:03:45.760 --> 02:03:49.520 gonna keep layering stuff, lawering more and more on top, and I'll be 1744 02:03:49.520 --> 02:03:51.880 able to do more and more every time I come back. And it's like, 1745 02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:56.960 oh, that's such a clever idea of making sure that like every run 1746 02:03:57.000 --> 02:04:00.199 feels like it accomplished something and doing that in a variet have different ways instead 1747 02:04:00.199 --> 02:04:02.199 of just like, well, you fought things, so we're just gonna give 1748 02:04:02.199 --> 02:04:05.319 you a different currency. It's like you're gonna have a different verb attached to 1749 02:04:05.359 --> 02:04:09.880 that, and then that that unlocks more verbs back in the home base. 1750 02:04:10.279 --> 02:04:13.600 It's uh, I think they are They were the masters of that stuff with 1751 02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:16.479 Haites. I think another like good examples is a Steamroll dig too. I 1752 02:04:16.520 --> 02:04:18.680 think that's a really good loop. It does a lot of similar stuff. 1753 02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:23.960 This feels like it is taking that idea to the next level. And it's 1754 02:04:24.000 --> 02:04:26.439 one of the reasons I you know, I'm just already and I am in 1755 02:04:26.439 --> 02:04:31.039 love with this game. Yeah, this is it's so appropriate that you are 1756 02:04:32.239 --> 02:04:38.720 fighting Uh it's it's known who you're fighting now, right, yeah, it's 1757 02:04:38.760 --> 02:04:42.039 time. Yeah, yeah, you're fighting Chronos, they say, they say 1758 02:04:42.079 --> 02:04:45.880 depth to Krotos is one of the first words. Like sorry if that's a 1759 02:04:45.920 --> 02:04:48.880 spoiler to you, but like, uh, also, hey, that's that's 1760 02:04:48.920 --> 02:04:55.359 what Percy Jackson is about. Sorry for spoiling a ya novel from like ten 1761 02:04:55.439 --> 02:05:00.840 years ago. Listen, Copeland is in that pro okay, and he's doing 1762 02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:06.520 his best work. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, he's all 1763 02:05:06.600 --> 02:05:12.720 right in it. But like it's so appropriate that like time Kronos is the 1764 02:05:12.720 --> 02:05:15.800 big bad and this is killing so much to Yeah, this is wasting so 1765 02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:18.720 much, eats it up. I think it's it's a metaphor for it so 1766 02:05:18.840 --> 02:05:25.119 deep for me, I'm sorry if after all that, like I'm still not 1767 02:05:25.119 --> 02:05:27.680 going to play it. I just need you to admit it's because you love 1768 02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:30.800 having an excuse to not play games. Like that's what Patrick's like. It's 1769 02:05:30.840 --> 02:05:33.960 like, I just like have an excuse to not do something until it's time 1770 02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:38.319 to do the thing. And I'm like, I can respect that. Yeah, 1771 02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:41.319 I love I'm the same way. I love to hear that that's totally 1772 02:05:41.359 --> 02:05:48.039 fine. Uh haities too early? Don't just just do it on the version 1773 02:05:48.119 --> 02:05:55.079 number it says zero point nine two. Yeah, yeah, kind of almost 1774 02:05:55.079 --> 02:05:57.880 there. Yeah, But the same time, they're like, and it's not 1775 02:05:57.920 --> 02:06:00.560 going to launch it till next year, but what how much should access through 1776 02:06:00.600 --> 02:06:05.880 the end of the year at least? Like and that's so what do you 1777 02:06:05.960 --> 02:06:14.079 mean you know? Yeah, yeah, it's like yeah, yeah, I 1778 02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:17.920 think I don't know who else has as good of a relationship with the idea 1779 02:06:18.039 --> 02:06:25.000 of early access. The super for for sure, but like they seem to 1780 02:06:25.000 --> 02:06:30.159 have like really maximized their relationship with the idea of early access. Absolutely, 1781 02:06:30.960 --> 02:06:34.000 yeah, they them, And like I mean I think, like you know, 1782 02:06:34.079 --> 02:06:36.520 Minecraft was like the one like basically one of the adventures of it, 1783 02:06:36.840 --> 02:06:39.880 and then since then, I don't think anyone's done it better than the super 1784 02:06:39.960 --> 02:06:43.119 Giant. The other aspect that I don't think we've really touched on is like 1785 02:06:43.199 --> 02:06:49.520 how much they've adjusted the combat in terms of just adding a charge move. 1786 02:06:50.159 --> 02:06:55.079 Yeah, Like you have a second meter, right, so yeah, you 1787 02:06:55.119 --> 02:06:57.720 have you have a magic meter. She's a witch. I need to I 1788 02:06:57.760 --> 02:07:00.920 like really need to nail this because it's so important to this character. She 1789 02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:05.359 does magic. So you have you have, you have all of your you 1790 02:07:05.399 --> 02:07:09.920 have your normal abx, A, b X Y abilities. All have a 1791 02:07:09.920 --> 02:07:14.800 modifier that you charge that takes this meter. Each of the weapons has a 1792 02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:18.399 second like they're all different per weapon, except the cast, which like puts 1793 02:07:18.439 --> 02:07:24.600 a circle down and like little spirits come up, like shades come up and 1794 02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:29.000 they hold the guys in place. Except there are some boons that modify the 1795 02:07:29.039 --> 02:07:33.720 way that the cast is placed, which gets kind of crazy. And like 1796 02:07:34.319 --> 02:07:38.680 they made the sprint useful. That's one of the things that like I really 1797 02:07:38.720 --> 02:07:44.800 appreciate about, like very tiny change this sprint in Haities one didn't really feel 1798 02:07:44.840 --> 02:07:47.039 like a useful thing. And I don't really remember if there were any boons 1799 02:07:47.079 --> 02:07:50.760 that modified the way that the sprint behaved like there, but they were they 1800 02:07:50.760 --> 02:07:54.880 were pretty few and far between. A couple runs where sprinting was like, 1801 02:07:54.880 --> 02:07:57.000 Oh, I'm just going to sprint through all these enemies, but that was 1802 02:07:57.119 --> 02:08:01.359 rare. But there are now enemies where it's like, oh, you gotta 1803 02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:05.520 you need to sprint so you don't get hit. And then in order to 1804 02:08:05.680 --> 02:08:07.000 justify that, they're like, okay, well, if we're gonna ask the 1805 02:08:07.039 --> 02:08:11.760 player to sprint all the time and incentivize them to sprint, we should probably 1806 02:08:11.760 --> 02:08:16.399 put an ability tied to the sprinting. So now you can like there's a 1807 02:08:16.399 --> 02:08:20.680 Poseidon boon that gives you a wave that pushes enemies back when you run through 1808 02:08:20.800 --> 02:08:24.800 the mirrors. There's a there's one that its days like, it's so sick. 1809 02:08:28.239 --> 02:08:33.560 Did you get the one where it's if you're sprinting, any projectile will 1810 02:08:33.560 --> 02:08:37.439 disappear and it will catch the person who sent the projectile at you on fire. 1811 02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:39.000 So anytime I was like, okay, I'm attacking, anytime I see 1812 02:08:39.000 --> 02:08:43.199 a projectile, I'm just running right up the projectile. They evaporate before me, 1813 02:08:43.439 --> 02:08:46.680 and then I see the little dude one hundred feet away like catch it 1814 02:08:46.720 --> 02:08:48.680 on fire. I'm like, hell yeah. That rules. The last thing 1815 02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:52.640 say about Hades two, and then we'll take another quick bricky break and head 1816 02:08:52.680 --> 02:08:58.720 the emails. Saw Jordan Midler tweet yesterday that the boss of the second area 1817 02:08:58.760 --> 02:09:01.880 of Hades two is the best in both games and maybe any worldlike and my 1818 02:09:01.960 --> 02:09:05.960 man is a percent. It's so fucking true. I like, I all 1819 02:09:05.960 --> 02:09:09.920 I want to do is talk about it, but I won't because it is 1820 02:09:09.039 --> 02:09:16.159 so there. They're mechanic. There, there is a think I can't. 1821 02:09:16.279 --> 02:09:20.479 I can't. It's so fucking good, like it's just it's already one of 1822 02:09:20.520 --> 02:09:26.279 my favorite moments in games this year, and it's and it's may Jeff craft 1823 02:09:26.319 --> 02:09:31.479 crub. Yeah, how how many times did it take you all to beat 1824 02:09:31.520 --> 02:09:39.640 hecate the first? You say it delicious hakat with a little line in there, 1825 02:09:39.920 --> 02:09:46.159 God a third run? I was kind of fucking around the first two, 1826 02:09:46.680 --> 02:09:48.720 but maybe I think I was the third one. But how many times 1827 02:09:48.760 --> 02:09:50.720 against the boss at least? Though? How many times did you like fight 1828 02:09:50.760 --> 02:09:58.199 the boss herself? Three? Okay before I beat Yeah, before you beat 1829 02:09:58.199 --> 02:10:01.720 her? Yeah? Three? Okay? I beat a first tribe. But 1830 02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:03.680 Mike did as well, and he texted me because he was like, oh, 1831 02:10:03.720 --> 02:10:05.880 I want you to know I beat it first try I'm like, yeah, 1832 02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:09.800 I get it. I did too. Problem. Yeah, I I 1833 02:10:09.840 --> 02:10:13.000 purposely threw it the first time, you know, Yeah, for sure I 1834 02:10:13.000 --> 02:10:18.359 wanted to. Yeah, I had a I had this awesome boon that made 1835 02:10:18.399 --> 02:10:22.439 my my my spear attack just do it twice every time I hit the button. 1836 02:10:22.479 --> 02:10:24.399 She just does it twice. And I was just crazy. Yeah, 1837 02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:31.600 it was quite easy actually with that, there's so few when it fucking chugs, 1838 02:10:31.680 --> 02:10:35.760 like it goes, like when when all of this stuff is popping off, 1839 02:10:35.800 --> 02:10:39.560 and it feels like the game is really like in the flow, like 1840 02:10:39.880 --> 02:10:46.239 there's nothing like it, Like it really does feel like so rewarding when you 1841 02:10:46.239 --> 02:10:50.479 are faced. And also those little moments right where you're sitting at the crossroads 1842 02:10:50.920 --> 02:10:54.000 and you're like, okay, do I have enough money to buy a thing? 1843 02:10:54.079 --> 02:11:00.039 But there's an enhanced boss version of this boon behind this door. I 1844 02:11:00.039 --> 02:11:03.319 want to go buy this stuff and then take the Like that decision making is 1845 02:11:03.319 --> 02:11:11.279 so nice, it's it's like a video. I understand watching folks play like 1846 02:11:11.279 --> 02:11:16.439 a roguelike can be frustrating, but I do really enjoy watching uh friends play 1847 02:11:18.359 --> 02:11:22.000 Hades too, and Original Hades as well, just because of how different everyone's 1848 02:11:22.039 --> 02:11:26.199 builds are yeh like I saw a little bit of Mike playing and I saw 1849 02:11:26.199 --> 02:11:30.000 a little bit of Bailey playing it yesterday. I'm like, huh, we 1850 02:11:30.039 --> 02:11:33.560 treat this game one hundred per different. Don't wait differently, miss me with 1851 02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:39.399 I don't give a fuck what. I just like I like looking. I 1852 02:11:39.560 --> 02:11:41.359 just like looking. Yeah, I'll look at her. But I got jack. 1853 02:11:41.399 --> 02:11:46.640 Got plenty of JPEGs for that. You know that's true. That's true, 1854 02:11:46.680 --> 02:11:48.359 plenty of JPEGs. Good, good, good good. Well, folks, 1855 02:11:48.600 --> 02:11:54.800 we're gonna take another quick breaking break and we'll be back with your emails 1856 02:11:54.039 --> 02:12:09.159 right after this emails. Pomcast at john bomb dot com is the email addressed 1857 02:12:09.159 --> 02:12:11.920 to send your emails to. If you were looking for your Chili's receipt from 1858 02:12:11.960 --> 02:12:18.800 the other night for your one alcoholic beverage, I guess hit me up if 1859 02:12:18.880 --> 02:12:24.159 you need that for finance purposes. Also, please stop what. I freaked 1860 02:12:24.159 --> 02:12:28.520 out when I saw an email hit the thing saying like your Chili's order, 1861 02:12:28.680 --> 02:12:31.039 here's your Chili's receipt. I thought like, oh no, my my air 1862 02:12:31.079 --> 02:12:37.840 base card got fudged. Oh no, got I got hacked. And then 1863 02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:41.359 I saw that someone just sent me their chili's receipt, So thanks, thanks 1864 02:12:41.359 --> 02:12:45.680 for that. What was was that? What was Dan like worried about it? 1865 02:12:45.760 --> 02:12:48.840 Packs with like a card? Wasn't there something like weird snanigans? I 1866 02:12:48.920 --> 02:12:50.920 was like, Oh, he's worried. I can usually ignorm at this point. 1867 02:12:52.800 --> 02:12:56.840 Yeah, this pidding. Just take a deep breath, say oh honey, 1868 02:12:56.359 --> 02:13:01.159 oh honey, he's just like what is it like your hand rainfall his 1869 02:13:01.239 --> 02:13:07.720 face? Yeah, you know, I'm just like put a blanky over him. 1870 02:13:09.159 --> 02:13:13.680 Look it's nighttime now. Uh, send your fun emails with if you 1871 02:13:13.720 --> 02:13:20.399 want to avoid a social interaction or you want to co write an email with 1872 02:13:20.800 --> 02:13:22.479 someone you're on your first date with. Have you ever thought about that on 1873 02:13:22.520 --> 02:13:26.159 a first date? That's a good that's a good idea, right, exactly, 1874 02:13:26.279 --> 02:13:31.800 Like to send an email both of you send an email to this. 1875 02:13:31.439 --> 02:13:35.600 That's quaint. Ye, It's like a thing to do. It's the thing 1876 02:13:35.640 --> 02:13:39.319 to do. Uh. I had a really good friend tell me that his 1877 02:13:39.479 --> 02:13:45.359 ideal first date and I don't know what his success right for this was was 1878 02:13:46.039 --> 02:13:50.600 bro Like, I think taking someone to do laundry is a good first date, 1879 02:13:50.880 --> 02:13:56.119 and like, what are you fucking talking? There's just no way that's 1880 02:13:56.159 --> 02:14:01.600 true. I mean that has a sentiment quicker have sex with a person than 1881 02:14:01.680 --> 02:14:07.479 do that. Yes, Like I think like you would have to like be 1882 02:14:07.600 --> 02:14:11.800 on some sort of like dating app that agrees for like a laundromat. For 1883 02:14:13.159 --> 02:14:16.399 like, There's no way you could just like spring that on somebody million dollar 1884 02:14:16.439 --> 02:14:22.079 idea. We make a dating app. Okay, please drop the name SuDS 1885 02:14:22.119 --> 02:14:28.640 and Buds. Okay, SuDS and Buds like it. After you you get 1886 02:14:28.680 --> 02:14:35.600 matched with someone, the app will suggest a miscellaneous random activity. That s 1887 02:14:35.960 --> 02:14:39.680 right, but we can still call buds. You can't suggest like the laundry 1888 02:14:39.720 --> 02:14:43.119 things. That just makes it sound like you want them to see your dirty 1889 02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:46.720 under Yes, I have soiled these underwear and I want you to see that. 1890 02:14:46.960 --> 02:14:50.079 Okay, see like I was approaching it from such a freaking wholesome place. 1891 02:14:52.159 --> 02:14:56.199 You know, I want people to see your dirty underwear. Jeff backlar, 1892 02:14:58.920 --> 02:15:01.359 I never have. I never we asked how much launder he was doing 1893 02:15:01.359 --> 02:15:05.520 on this first date. But then you know, also I don't believe he 1894 02:15:05.600 --> 02:15:09.119 got many second dates from this weird Yeah, this is also the same thing. 1895 02:15:11.119 --> 02:15:13.520 This is also the same friend that apologized to me because he ate a 1896 02:15:13.520 --> 02:15:16.520 whole ice cream cake that we were saving for someone's birthday, and I'm like, 1897 02:15:16.560 --> 02:15:22.680 wow, so his underwroum was fucked up. You can't eat a whole 1898 02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:26.039 ice cream cake like you can't? Let me tell you. Put one in 1899 02:15:26.079 --> 02:15:28.079 front of me. Let's see what happens. Korean Johnny, you ate that 1900 02:15:28.159 --> 02:15:31.520 whole he ate that whole cake? Gro could you? You couldn't eat like 1901 02:15:31.560 --> 02:15:35.920 a whale ice cream fudgie the whale cake? Could you not? Not? 1902 02:15:35.960 --> 02:15:39.800 Really? Now? I couldn't even know who cheese alone cake fucked if I 1903 02:15:39.800 --> 02:15:43.279 had old pizza. But I could not a whole ice cream cake, no 1904 02:15:43.319 --> 02:15:46.720 way. See. I used to do like this thin crust pizza challenge in 1905 02:15:46.800 --> 02:15:50.199 high school. I've I did a seven or eight times and that was fine. 1906 02:15:52.319 --> 02:15:56.720 No way now, no fucking shot, my dude, no way. 1907 02:15:58.720 --> 02:16:01.439 I you know, I feel like I could do it, but then I 1908 02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:07.119 can barely stay up past eleven PM. Now you'd be walking around all floatsy 1909 02:16:07.319 --> 02:16:11.039 and weird, and yeah, I'd be in a bad way for sure. 1910 02:16:11.199 --> 02:16:13.680 Yes, shot, I think out of all of us, Dan is the 1911 02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:16.319 most impervious to cheese. Can you imagine if that? I don't know, 1912 02:16:16.520 --> 02:16:20.079 he was pretty bad. It's like, fuck them up, pretty bad on 1913 02:16:20.159 --> 02:16:24.039 numerous occasions. At this point, lactose intolerance, I think is a mindy 1914 02:16:24.079 --> 02:16:26.880 issue. You're right, I agree. I think we can you can rise 1915 02:16:26.920 --> 02:16:33.319 above it. I think like if you take enough lactate, it's instead of 1916 02:16:33.319 --> 02:16:37.600 mine over matter, it's mine over Mazzarella. Ay ay, all right, 1917 02:16:37.760 --> 02:16:45.719 First email, real life blight club. This comes from a buddy high and 1918 02:16:45.760 --> 02:16:48.760 glorious Bombsters. I've come up with real life blight club circumstances for each of 1919 02:16:48.760 --> 02:16:52.120 you, fellow Bombsters. Do you believe these people would make it to the 1920 02:16:52.239 --> 02:16:56.239 end? FYI, no time limits, all difficulty. Dan, you are 1921 02:16:56.239 --> 02:17:01.639 on a reality cooking show and Gordon Ramsey is the judge. Keep competing until 1922 02:17:01.680 --> 02:17:05.239 you win. It is you and you alone on your team. Oh. 1923 02:17:05.440 --> 02:17:13.000 I forgot to mention that this is top Step Junior. He would get caught 1924 02:17:13.079 --> 02:17:16.399 up yelling at the other the other kids, caught up yelling at the kids. 1925 02:17:18.200 --> 02:17:22.639 Gordon is gonna make dang cry in the pilot. Yeah, and then 1926 02:17:22.639 --> 02:17:26.159 he will be just like taking down a gigantic peg or two, and then 1927 02:17:26.200 --> 02:17:31.079 all the kids beat up on him. I'm not sure I've been more excited 1928 02:17:31.079 --> 02:17:33.879 about a fictional thing in my life. I think, Dan would do. 1929 02:17:35.120 --> 02:17:37.200 He would do it. But do you think you would learn how to cook 1930 02:17:37.239 --> 02:17:41.719 through this? Yeah? I actually I actually do think so. Well, 1931 02:17:41.840 --> 02:17:45.840 okay, because the thing is the problem would be he would get so used 1932 02:17:45.879 --> 02:17:50.200 to the kitchen setup at the show that he would go home and it'd be 1933 02:17:50.280 --> 02:17:52.319 drastically different. Right now, he would forget it all. He have to 1934 02:17:52.360 --> 02:17:58.639 remodel his home kitchen to look like this setup, right chef cameras and everything. 1935 02:18:00.360 --> 02:18:05.239 Hey, Top Chef fantastic show. If you ever have Top chef z 1936 02:18:05.440 --> 02:18:11.239 list Internet celebrity, holler boy, Yeah, the rewards lady's name Chris, 1937 02:18:11.920 --> 02:18:16.639 Chris and Kish. Chris, come on the show, Chris and Kiss you 1938 02:18:16.639 --> 02:18:18.360 want to pop on the dump truck? Please? Come on the dump truck 1939 02:18:18.479 --> 02:18:24.440 Chris and Kish Please? I love her. She's great. Uh, Sophia 1940 02:18:24.559 --> 02:18:28.000 Rowe, you want to come on the on the program the program. I'm 1941 02:18:28.000 --> 02:18:31.399 on the couch. That's why I want to make a funnel cake now. 1942 02:18:33.719 --> 02:18:37.239 Oh grub Nikki, I forgot to take pictures of this because I may have 1943 02:18:37.239 --> 02:18:43.040 been under the drugs I made. I made the savory funnel kick. I 1944 02:18:43.120 --> 02:18:46.319 was Oh you did it? Was fucked up? Nick I took I took 1945 02:18:46.360 --> 02:18:50.000 your suggestion. Yeah, I put. I bought some carnitas from the taco 1946 02:18:50.120 --> 02:18:52.520 truck out there, and then I sprinkled some cotilla and that ship and some 1947 02:18:52.600 --> 02:19:03.120 salts because I was pretty How does that happen? I don't understand, Gordon. 1948 02:19:03.799 --> 02:19:07.159 Was it similar to a gordina? It's like, you know, two 1949 02:19:07.200 --> 02:19:09.520 hours? I bet? No, no, no, The meat was pre 1950 02:19:09.600 --> 02:19:16.559 cooked. The funnel cake operation easy peasy. Uh. Have you ever gotten 1951 02:19:16.559 --> 02:19:20.959 a chiloupa from Taco Bell? Of course, it's like that. Okay, 1952 02:19:20.360 --> 02:19:24.239 it's like that, So it's like it's it's soft, it's chewy. I'm 1953 02:19:24.239 --> 02:19:30.239 gonna get a chiloopa today. Hell yeah, if I you know what upf 1954 02:19:30.760 --> 02:19:33.920 Maybe we'll start the pre stream early and I'll just make a funnel cake again. 1955 02:19:33.079 --> 02:19:39.239 Yeah, let's do it. Uh. Backlar, you must spend an 1956 02:19:39.440 --> 02:19:43.120 entire day at Magic Kingdom with Dibb and Minati parentheses. Your wife stayed at 1957 02:19:43.120 --> 02:19:48.959 home, and your goal is to ride every ride the park has in one 1958 02:19:48.040 --> 02:19:54.239 day. Jeep is genuinely interested in everything Minati has to say, and constantly 1959 02:19:54.280 --> 02:19:56.760 ask him how the Kingdom Heart's lore fits into each area of the park. 1960 02:19:58.079 --> 02:20:03.280 It is July and you have no sunscreen every time you sigh. Every time 1961 02:20:03.319 --> 02:20:09.559 you sigh, the day starts again. Wait a fucking minute. Okay, 1962 02:20:09.920 --> 02:20:16.000 this is so dumb because I just I guess, I just die like I 1963 02:20:16.000 --> 02:20:18.639 guess, I just every time you sigh. But you are living for the 1964 02:20:18.639 --> 02:20:22.920 rest of your life. I'm sorry. So screened be a thing here that 1965 02:20:22.239 --> 02:20:26.040 is withheld from me? What are we doing? You just go buy one 1966 02:20:26.079 --> 02:20:31.079 of those umbrella hats. Guess what. It's called reflections and the light is 1967 02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:35.239 really good at doing it. I will get but it's okay because the reward 1968 02:20:37.200 --> 02:20:41.319 is your immune to the sun. Ask him. That's a that's the thing. 1969 02:20:41.360 --> 02:20:45.079 I don't think I want either. I think like I would. Everything 1970 02:20:45.200 --> 02:20:50.639 about this sounded delightful. I would absolutely go to Magic Kingdom for an entire 1971 02:20:50.719 --> 02:20:54.760 day, have Mike Manatti be our freakish little tour guide and Dib and I 1972 02:20:56.479 --> 02:21:01.680 shotgun learning all about the little nooks and crannies of the Magic Kingdom. Do 1973 02:21:01.719 --> 02:21:03.799 you think it would be the Groundhog Day where it's like, you know, 1974 02:21:03.840 --> 02:21:07.159 he is doing that for ten thousand years or whatever. Do you think it 1975 02:21:07.200 --> 02:21:09.959 would be like that long before you'd be able to accomplish this without sighing? 1976 02:21:09.040 --> 02:21:13.520 I'm never gonna do it, yeah, because it will never happen. Uh. 1977 02:21:13.680 --> 02:21:16.680 Maybe it's the secret to living forever, but that's what's gonna happen, 1978 02:21:16.799 --> 02:21:24.200 because I won't have sighed because of the knowledge or the uh you know, 1979 02:21:24.280 --> 02:21:26.719 existence of what. You don't figure out the sighing thing until like the third 1980 02:21:26.799 --> 02:21:33.000 or fourth run. I'm just saying, the sun will cook me to death. 1981 02:21:33.280 --> 02:21:37.239 I die before I can sign, or the sigh will be your last 1982 02:21:37.280 --> 02:21:41.479 breath. Yeah, And the sign is like the one way to guarantee you 1983 02:21:41.520 --> 02:21:43.040 don't wake up with that sunburn the next day. So it's like, oh 1984 02:21:43.079 --> 02:21:48.799 my god, way out you guys. You don't even know what it's like 1985 02:21:48.920 --> 02:21:52.440 to be sunburn. Maybe you do, Grub, I definitely do. And 1986 02:21:52.840 --> 02:21:54.799 if you, I think you could still be worse than me. And if 1987 02:21:54.840 --> 02:22:01.000 that's the case, oh boy, you are that's terrible and men fucking star 1988 02:22:01.920 --> 02:22:07.399 it is not okay, I know. It's how life came the great Okay, 1989 02:22:09.239 --> 02:22:13.000 it's the bane of my existence. I am that shadow hopping video game. 1990 02:22:13.799 --> 02:22:20.879 That is me. Your reward backl are sun immunity and sun quality time. 1991 02:22:20.399 --> 02:22:26.440 Oh I love the half of that Grub. You must go to Nintendo 1992 02:22:26.479 --> 02:22:31.520 headquarters and you must convince Nintendo to take you off their blacklist. Crap. 1993 02:22:31.920 --> 02:22:35.159 I forgot to mention that you don't have an appointment and you have to sneak 1994 02:22:35.200 --> 02:22:37.840 in and if you get caught, you must start over. Also, you 1995 02:22:37.879 --> 02:22:41.719 are cosplaying as a warrior for all of it. No save scumming the conversation. 1996 02:22:43.079 --> 02:22:45.120 Well then no, no, I definitely won't be able to do this 1997 02:22:45.200 --> 02:22:48.440 if I can't save scum like Baclar can. If I don't have a Grindhog 1998 02:22:48.479 --> 02:22:52.719 Stay situation, I get like probably shot and killed in this scenario. Do 1999 02:22:52.760 --> 02:22:58.280 you think you learn each run or listen? If I if I got a 2000 02:22:58.399 --> 02:23:01.239 run, if it was run based, I would eventually do it. But 2001 02:23:01.399 --> 02:23:03.280 nothing here says that it's run based. I can't say some of the conversations 2002 02:23:03.440 --> 02:23:07.479 conversations, it doesn't sound like I'm not doing a Groundhog Day situation. So 2003 02:23:07.840 --> 02:23:13.319 I assumed these were all run based. Oh now now it has been added 2004 02:23:13.319 --> 02:23:16.840 to the email. It's run based now, Nikki, Okay? In that 2005 02:23:16.920 --> 02:23:24.959 case, one million percent. I love early access emails. You're in a 2006 02:23:24.000 --> 02:23:28.200 ground of the scenario. I think I could do most things eventually that you 2007 02:23:28.200 --> 02:23:31.600 would probably be like a thousand years. But I would be able to do 2008 02:23:31.639 --> 02:23:33.799 it. I figured out the exact scenario of being in a Warrior constume and 2009 02:23:33.840 --> 02:23:37.760 getting me a Moto to give me his blessing. Yeah. Oh, but 2010 02:23:39.040 --> 02:23:41.920 you would do it in less than a thousand years probably, Yeah. I 2011 02:23:41.959 --> 02:23:46.360 think it would take you probably two weeks. Yeah, I think very quick. 2012 02:23:48.200 --> 02:23:52.639 Your reward you're off the blacklist lifetime supply of Nintendo discounts. Oh, 2013 02:23:52.760 --> 02:23:56.559 those coupons you want to cool? Five up at that five dollars coupon they 2014 02:23:56.559 --> 02:24:00.440 put in a magazine for when they like broke a off. Yeah. Uh, 2015 02:24:00.760 --> 02:24:05.440 Minati, you must protest. You must protest the new Hollow Night Silk 2016 02:24:05.479 --> 02:24:11.120 Song game outside of Team Cherry's studio every day until the day it releases. 2017 02:24:11.159 --> 02:24:16.680 In one point zero, advocating for bug rights, the developers boycott you in 2018 02:24:16.719 --> 02:24:20.000 a fit of fury, denouncing the Minati name on all social media platforms. 2019 02:24:20.280 --> 02:24:24.799 You addressed as a caterpillar and hashes a butterfly each day in a performance or 2020 02:24:24.920 --> 02:24:30.719 fashion, proclaiming the bugs should create their own sequel. The more believable you 2021 02:24:30.840 --> 02:24:33.360 protest, the suitor the game comes out. The less believable your protest, 2022 02:24:33.440 --> 02:24:37.760 the more it is delayed. I think I think he could do it too. 2023 02:24:37.879 --> 02:24:41.639 Yeah, he'd get it done in like two hours, right. I 2024 02:24:41.639 --> 02:24:43.760 don't think you would like if it was a situation where like, no, 2025 02:24:43.840 --> 02:24:45.639 you have to do this, We're making you do this, I think he 2026 02:24:45.680 --> 02:24:48.600 would go all out, go all out and make it happen. Yeah. 2027 02:24:48.799 --> 02:24:52.879 Yeah. Reward you get to play silk Song first, and Team Cherry admits 2028 02:24:52.920 --> 02:24:54.760 you were a marketing stunt. Oh cool, so you get let off the 2029 02:24:54.760 --> 02:25:00.399 hook. All right, Yeah, buddy from an island in Florida'm gonn ask 2030 02:25:00.479 --> 02:25:03.760 you you email again and fill out the rest of the GB roster. I'd 2031 02:25:03.760 --> 02:25:07.959 love to see Nikki's flight, Bailey's blight, TAM's blite, Lucy's blight, 2032 02:25:09.440 --> 02:25:13.440 and then finally myself. You must drive read this for you show. Okay, 2033 02:25:13.239 --> 02:25:16.479 Jen, You must drive an urgent mission to supply the East coast with 2034 02:25:16.600 --> 02:25:22.159 Pokemon cards. You are riding shotgun with a semi driver hauling booster boxes of 2035 02:25:22.200 --> 02:25:26.440 Pokemon cards. They are chatting with you over all things Pokemon. You must 2036 02:25:26.559 --> 02:25:31.079 never say the word Pokemon and can never say a Pokemon's name. You have 2037 02:25:31.239 --> 02:25:33.959 to keep the conversation going and not ignore him. There is a slot machine 2038 02:25:33.959 --> 02:25:39.239 in front of you. One in the cab with one to twenty odds to 2039 02:25:39.319 --> 02:25:43.639 skip an hour of the drive, and it has a thirty minute cool down. 2040 02:25:43.760 --> 02:25:46.479 It's a forty five hour drive. Fail the slot or say a forbidden 2041 02:25:46.520 --> 02:25:50.479 word and you start over. The driver is also Donald Trump. Oh my 2042 02:25:50.879 --> 02:25:56.639 god, this went from okay to hell on fucking Earth. I was thinking, 2043 02:25:56.799 --> 02:26:01.079 like, oh, I could like to just smoove my through a conversation. 2044 02:26:01.280 --> 02:26:05.799 I could pretend to sleep. Perhaps that's so he's very lazy. The 2045 02:26:05.840 --> 02:26:11.079 people the same, he's very lazy. Also, what the fuck? Well 2046 02:26:11.200 --> 02:26:15.200 one out of twenty to skip one hour? In no way are you ever 2047 02:26:15.799 --> 02:26:18.920 like incentivized to try and do that. That's crazy. Well, it doesn't 2048 02:26:18.959 --> 02:26:24.159 seem like there's a losing no day, start starts over. The day starts 2049 02:26:24.159 --> 02:26:26.879 over, the drive starts over. I'm jumping out of the truck. Is 2050 02:26:26.920 --> 02:26:33.239 that thirty Fail the slot or say a word, you start over? Also 2051 02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:39.760 behind the wheel? Yep, little boy, fucking crazy. I could do 2052 02:26:39.840 --> 02:26:43.239 it. I know, it's like, I know it's not I could probably 2053 02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:46.639 do this for like, I could probably hit shotgun with with Trump. Forty 2054 02:26:46.680 --> 02:26:50.959 or five hours is rough? Forty five hours? Well, I mean, 2055 02:26:50.200 --> 02:26:54.000 listen, you don't have a choice, right, so I have like I 2056 02:26:54.239 --> 02:26:56.159 try. I'm sleeping for most of it. No, you have to keep 2057 02:26:56.159 --> 02:27:03.879 the conversation going. Yeah, here's the thing I think I would. I 2058 02:27:03.920 --> 02:27:09.440 think I would try and baffle him with bullshit so he would wind up being 2059 02:27:09.559 --> 02:27:11.959 quiet, and then I would become the annoying one in the situation. Okay, 2060 02:27:11.959 --> 02:27:16.159 I wouldn't you know? This is how the turntables and everything right, 2061 02:27:16.639 --> 02:27:20.479 good point? All right, the reard semi truck of Pokemon cards and an 2062 02:27:20.479 --> 02:27:24.040 extra truck for barbier Jan. All right, if barbier Jan's on the line, 2063 02:27:24.079 --> 02:27:28.879 then I will Yeah, I'll buy it from an island in Florida. 2064 02:27:30.040 --> 02:27:33.280 Buddy, buddy, thank you so much, very detailed and that was great, 2065 02:27:33.319 --> 02:27:35.879 buddy, good job. All right, that was a long email. 2066 02:27:37.159 --> 02:27:41.959 Let's just read maybe one more. Uh. This comes from Quentin, also 2067 02:27:43.000 --> 02:27:46.799 from Florida. This is about disc golf. Hello Bombers, longtime listener, 2068 02:27:46.879 --> 02:27:50.040 first time emailer. I always wanted to send an email, but never knew 2069 02:27:50.840 --> 02:27:56.760 quite what to say or what junk subscription to subscribe you guys to Never in 2070 02:27:56.879 --> 02:28:01.000 my wildest dreams, what would I have imagined? The only other thing in 2071 02:28:01.079 --> 02:28:03.639 my life as important as video games to me. As video games would be 2072 02:28:03.680 --> 02:28:07.600 brought up on this podcast, disc golf is truly so much fun. Oh 2073 02:28:07.719 --> 02:28:11.719 cool. I'm happy to hear a member of the BombCast enjoyed playing and might 2074 02:28:11.760 --> 02:28:13.799 bring a new audience to the game, no question, just the word of 2075 02:28:13.920 --> 02:28:18.639 warning for anyone curious about the sport. I started playing during the pandemic to 2076 02:28:18.680 --> 02:28:22.280 stay active because I was sold on the idea of a cheap hobby. Four 2077 02:28:22.360 --> 02:28:26.159 years later and hundreds of discs purchase, I can say you say, I 2078 02:28:26.200 --> 02:28:30.440 will never be able to financially recover from this hobby, but in all seriousness, 2079 02:28:30.520 --> 02:28:33.440 I highly recommend giving it a shot. It truly is a great time 2080 02:28:33.520 --> 02:28:35.760 getting out there, as it's one of those easy to pick up, hard 2081 02:28:35.799 --> 02:28:41.239 to master things. Happy throwing Quintin from Florida. Yeah, I'm not better 2082 02:28:41.319 --> 02:28:45.959 than disc golf. I think like there's certainly like I'm maybe I'm I'm I'm 2083 02:28:46.000 --> 02:28:50.559 like a fall autumn disc golf person is probably the season for me. But 2084 02:28:50.639 --> 02:28:54.479 it sounds lovely. I'm super into it. Yeah, and it's got to 2085 02:28:54.479 --> 02:29:01.840 be like cheaper than like buying clubs for actual hundreds of discs, But still 2086 02:29:01.920 --> 02:29:03.959 like, I think it's more affordable than a lot of other sports. So 2087 02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:09.920 I'm looking at Chavez Ridge disc golf course and that's only gonna be it's right 2088 02:29:09.959 --> 02:29:15.760 behind Dodger Stadium, so that's only dot com. It's minutes. I don't 2089 02:29:15.799 --> 02:29:18.399 think any place can be a disc golf course, right, Like, I 2090 02:29:18.479 --> 02:29:20.000 feel like, yeah, if you get a trash can, yeah, anything 2091 02:29:20.239 --> 02:29:22.479 you just need, like chains in a trash can, right, like a 2092 02:29:22.559 --> 02:29:28.719 bucket, Yeah, yeah, y'all fuck with can jam yeah, sometimes beach 2093 02:29:28.799 --> 02:29:33.079 thing, yeah, can jam. It's it's two trash cans and one of 2094 02:29:33.079 --> 02:29:37.479 the trash Both of the trash cans have slots, little like male slots in 2095 02:29:37.600 --> 02:29:41.040 them. You get more points if you if you eat the disc through the 2096 02:29:41.120 --> 02:29:45.840 slot. Otherwise you're trying to slam the disc into the top of the bin 2097 02:29:46.440 --> 02:29:52.440 as it's tossed to you. What's the mini trampoline ball game too? What's 2098 02:29:52.440 --> 02:29:56.840 that called spike spike ball? Slam ball ball is the greatest American passy. 2099 02:29:58.200 --> 02:30:01.920 Well, that's the trampoline basket a ball, Yeah, the great American pastime 2100 02:30:01.959 --> 02:30:05.440 spike ball. Yeah, he's nest all right. I found mine. Sland 2101 02:30:05.520 --> 02:30:11.479 Ball's coming slamp ball's coming back soon a couple of weeks. Oh, lawsuits 2102 02:30:11.520 --> 02:30:13.879 have been settled. Is that the Olympics because it came back. It came 2103 02:30:13.920 --> 02:30:18.040 back last year. Uh in Vegas? Can you believe it? They'll let 2104 02:30:18.079 --> 02:30:22.399 you do it in Vegas. Oh my god? Weird? You know, 2105 02:30:22.559 --> 02:30:26.559 I think going back to disc golf, it's funny. Like one time I 2106 02:30:26.040 --> 02:30:31.799 saw like a disc golf a hole with the chain and I was just like, 2107 02:30:31.879 --> 02:30:35.040 what you see it? And You're just like, what kind of alien 2108 02:30:35.159 --> 02:30:41.600 contraction is this? No wonder prison? Yeah, like what a strange prison, 2109 02:30:43.079 --> 02:30:50.159 some sort of aviary prison. Birds was torturing these these these sparrows. 2110 02:30:52.479 --> 02:30:56.200 Uh, it's a weird, weird looking thing, that's all. How much 2111 02:30:56.399 --> 02:30:58.840 is it? S? Yeah? I was just doing that, like twenty 2112 02:31:00.120 --> 02:31:05.520 to your middleman, don't forget grab middle film, all right, Yeah, 2113 02:31:05.520 --> 02:31:07.600 I'm gonna get the overall pick here, the one that is forty dollars. 2114 02:31:07.639 --> 02:31:11.280 I'm gonna go with that. How many discs in that bad boy? Is 2115 02:31:11.319 --> 02:31:16.719 it just three? Let's see here The in Nova disc Golf starter set. 2116 02:31:16.799 --> 02:31:20.200 Colors may vary one hundred and sixty to one hundred eighty grams. It's got 2117 02:31:20.239 --> 02:31:24.799 a disc golf putter, a disc golf driver mid range PDGA approved disc golf 2118 02:31:24.840 --> 02:31:28.600 set, frisbee golf disk set. It looks like there's six or five total, 2119 02:31:28.959 --> 02:31:33.559 or maybe six if a little one counts. What makes a frisbee a 2120 02:31:33.719 --> 02:31:35.879 putter? Like, I know, I know, it's the weight I think, 2121 02:31:37.079 --> 02:31:39.360 and it's like heavy. It's probably heavy. Yeah, yeah, it's 2122 02:31:39.440 --> 02:31:43.040 denser, so you uh, you know when you're when you're putting, you're 2123 02:31:43.079 --> 02:31:48.479 just right there versus like a big wobbly boy. There's a bunch of numbers 2124 02:31:48.479 --> 02:31:52.760 on these. I don't understand a fairway driver mid range disc. They all 2125 02:31:52.760 --> 02:31:56.280 look kind of the same in terms of shape. So it must speed seventy, 2126 02:31:56.440 --> 02:32:01.079 glide five, turn zero, fade two. This one has a turn 2127 02:32:01.200 --> 02:32:05.719 rating of negative two. You know how they are driving ranges for for golf, 2128 02:32:05.879 --> 02:32:09.040 right, Yeah, I just want to a disc golf driving range just 2129 02:32:09.360 --> 02:32:15.600 to stretch a frisbee the park. I want to get a park bucket of 2130 02:32:15.760 --> 02:32:20.559 discs we just come out. Also, let's also do ultimate frisbee in l 2131 02:32:20.639 --> 02:32:26.399 a ultimate frisbee, So now that is that is a sweaty sport. Like 2132 02:32:28.719 --> 02:32:33.120 once you hold the frisbee, you have to stand. Yeah, you're there's 2133 02:32:33.120 --> 02:32:35.280 a ton of running. What are you talking about? Okay, I'm trying 2134 02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:39.159 to get you to play ultimate. I played Ultimate. I'll that Hell yeah, 2135 02:32:39.319 --> 02:32:45.360 this okay, this is the most triumphant story from my high school experience. 2136 02:32:45.680 --> 02:32:48.799 Uh you know, yeah, what made you prom king? Okay, 2137 02:32:48.959 --> 02:32:54.440 maybe second most triumphant. Wow, we don't need to relitigate this. But 2138 02:32:54.840 --> 02:32:58.559 I was never the most athletic. I dreaded pe because, like, I 2139 02:32:58.600 --> 02:33:01.319 could not dribble a basketball to save my life. I'm not one of those 2140 02:33:01.399 --> 02:33:09.000 Filipinos. I could kind of swing a ball and swing a bat for baseball 2141 02:33:09.040 --> 02:33:11.920 and all these other sports. Hated when we were running a mile on Fridays. 2142 02:33:13.319 --> 02:33:18.719 But then when our pee teacher introduced us to the beautiful game that is 2143 02:33:18.840 --> 02:33:22.719 ultimate frisbee, I got paired with like all the other fellow people that were 2144 02:33:22.840 --> 02:33:31.600 uncoordinated, but we fucking won medals team because for whatever reason, my group 2145 02:33:31.719 --> 02:33:37.040 of hooligans understood the game. And then we would always just do the hammer 2146 02:33:37.159 --> 02:33:41.559 toss, which is just throwing it vertically and just whiffing that and just tailmarring 2147 02:33:41.639 --> 02:33:46.319 that bad boy. We'd make it across Ultimate frisbee. It's a great sport. 2148 02:33:46.319 --> 02:33:50.840 We should we should do it. He play ultimate frisbee. What's kind 2149 02:33:50.840 --> 02:33:58.639 of funny doing again the beach games instead of playing dodgeball, Let's play ultimate 2150 02:33:58.680 --> 02:34:03.479 frisbee. Get five. I feel like snow snow Bikeael is probably so good 2151 02:34:03.559 --> 02:34:07.559 at well, he's gonna be he's gonna rally the troops. He's gonna be 2152 02:34:07.559 --> 02:34:09.440 a real problem. But we'll just take him out first. Go along, 2153 02:34:09.479 --> 02:34:16.639 Greggie, I'm gonna get your budge. Oh he's here. It's so funny. 2154 02:34:16.280 --> 02:34:20.920 And he's fucking eleven feet tall too, Like you don't realize how tall 2155 02:34:20.000 --> 02:34:24.520 Bikeael is, you know how like people will spin a basketball on their finger, 2156 02:34:24.840 --> 02:34:26.559 that'd be snow bikel with like a frisbee. He'd just be like a 2157 02:34:26.760 --> 02:34:31.280 jan I'm spinning the disc, buddy, I got you, righty A gent 2158 02:34:31.440 --> 02:34:33.600 Yeah for sure. God, it's so good. Tobaccla, you're you're a 2159 02:34:33.680 --> 02:34:37.479 man. You're like Pistachio disguisio. Has anyone ever told you that? Many 2160 02:34:37.559 --> 02:34:43.680 times? Many times? You're not the first, And I hope you tell 2161 02:34:43.719 --> 02:34:46.639 me about nine to eleven. So yeah, that's exactly exactly Pistachio disguising. 2162 02:34:46.760 --> 02:34:54.200 Yeah, uh God, is there is there a bastard disguised video game that 2163 02:34:54.239 --> 02:34:58.200 we could fool Jeff back like I wish, God, I wish, but 2164 02:34:58.239 --> 02:35:01.600 I don't think so. Imagine the world where that was the franchise to take 2165 02:35:01.639 --> 02:35:07.440 off and not Austin Powers. Uh huh god god uh. Folks, that 2166 02:35:07.639 --> 02:35:11.280 is it for emails. Thank you for sending all of your emails into bombcasts 2167 02:35:11.319 --> 02:35:16.600 at giant bomb dot com. What do we got going on for the rest 2168 02:35:16.639 --> 02:35:18.520 of the week. It's a whole bunch of stuff as all. I mean, 2169 02:35:18.799 --> 02:35:24.120 if we do we even really know in our hearts uh Daikatana Returnsdika Gubb 2170 02:35:24.239 --> 02:35:31.159 Grubbatana tomorrow. Well. Also, I'll also be playing some more New Vegas 2171 02:35:31.239 --> 02:35:33.760 tomorrow as well, so that'd be fun. There will be game mes mornings 2172 02:35:33.799 --> 02:35:37.520 the rest of the week. Thursday, what are we doing Thursday during the 2173 02:35:37.559 --> 02:35:41.479 day? I forget we uh maybe checking back in with hell Divers too. 2174 02:35:41.600 --> 02:35:45.879 Now that the whole snaff who is kind of situated to the dust is settled 2175 02:35:46.040 --> 02:35:48.559 and stuff sounds good, yep, and then we will do upf We'll have 2176 02:35:48.719 --> 02:35:50.920 BCR this week. It'll be a good time, yes, And we have 2177 02:35:50.959 --> 02:35:58.040 a voicemail Dump Truck especial special duel time special time. It is an hour 2178 02:35:58.159 --> 02:36:01.399 later than it normally is h seven oh seven Exit flu send your voicemails. 2179 02:36:01.440 --> 02:36:05.920 Not about any Marky wrestling shit, just about cool guys shit. Because we 2180 02:36:07.000 --> 02:36:13.479 will have friend of the site Evil who Know and Adam Cole Bababe Babebee on 2181 02:36:13.879 --> 02:36:16.520 the pod, so that'll be fun. Love Evil, who know, love 2182 02:36:16.559 --> 02:36:20.559 Evil whatever the guy they're awesome chugs. Also, very very sweet individual, 2183 02:36:22.120 --> 02:36:24.360 greb. Did you mention Blake Club? You did, right? Yeah, 2184 02:36:24.440 --> 02:36:28.760 Blake Club at three pm tomorrow. Yes. Also, Hey, this Sunday, 2185 02:36:28.799 --> 02:36:33.200 folks, it's Mother's Day, So get that shit figured out. Take 2186 02:36:33.239 --> 02:36:39.399 care of these or don't or don't yeah no, or don't for real because 2187 02:36:39.479 --> 02:36:41.719 like not everyone has a great uh you know situation there. Yeah, I 2188 02:36:41.879 --> 02:36:46.200 understand that. Do what you need to do, buy yourself flowers in that 2189 02:36:46.280 --> 02:36:50.920 instance. Yeah, sometimes you're your own parent and that's valid and okay too, 2190 02:36:50.079 --> 02:36:54.479 So give yourself the space if you need the space. We're just if 2191 02:36:54.520 --> 02:36:58.920 you are obliged, we're just the helpful reminder, helpful reminder, helpful reminder, 2192 02:36:58.559 --> 02:37:01.040 and you know, but this is also a helpful reminder because you know, 2193 02:37:01.120 --> 02:37:03.920 we're just gonna go over what we What did we learn today? Yeah, 2194 02:37:05.159 --> 02:37:07.360 what do we learn? What do we learn? This is the wrong 2195 02:37:07.479 --> 02:37:09.479 music cue, but we're gonna go with it anyway. Yeah, what the 2196 02:37:09.600 --> 02:37:13.239 fuck is this? I don't know rules, Donkey Kolong adjacent. We learned 2197 02:37:13.280 --> 02:37:18.440 that maybe we can't trust big corporations. We learned that the hot Olympics might 2198 02:37:18.479 --> 02:37:22.399 not matter anymore, and then the cold Olympics are far superior. We learned 2199 02:37:22.399 --> 02:37:26.520 that Kirby's mouth could be cold, dry more hades is good, and don't 2200 02:37:26.600 --> 02:37:30.440 let the game re juice touch your hands. Sometimes you also go up. 2201 02:37:30.879 --> 02:37:33.319 We also learned that we all have plenty of JPEGs, and hey, we'll 2202 02:37:33.360 --> 02:37:39.280 never know Backlar's pain and relationship with the sun. It's true, the folks, 2203 02:37:39.280 --> 02:37:41.000 That's what we learned this week. I love it, just like I 2204 02:37:41.040 --> 02:37:43.399 love this podcast. And we'll do another one of these podcasts later in the 2205 02:37:43.440 --> 02:37:48.319 week, BCR. Maybe we'll do the Hottest Moms in Gaming or best Moms 2206 02:37:48.360 --> 02:37:52.760 in Gaming. Who knows. I'm gonna take a topic suggestions and we will 2207 02:37:52.799 --> 02:37:56.200 see you next week for or another episode of the Giant BombCast. Oh, 2208 02:37:56.319 --> 02:38:03.719 this is the old music's not playing? Stop lad, it's a good podcast. 2209 02:38:05.920 --> 02:38:15.440 Oh God, too many thoughts. What's happening, what's happening. I 2210 02:38:15.680 --> 02:38:16.440 charged the rock