WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:44.359 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. There's something awesome about texting back and forth 3 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.640 with the fellas talking about, Hey, what are you doing for the game? 4 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:51.600 You're still going? You want to get some beers before, you know, 5 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.560 that kind of stuff. It's awesome. It's one of the things I 6 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:58.600 love about being, you know, a Louisville fan and having great friends and 7 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.479 family that are Louisville fans, and you know, usually do that during football 8 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:04.640 season, during basketball season. Doesn't often times happen during the month of July. 9 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:08.519 But here we are. The TBT is just days away. Louisville will 10 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:14.000 get started on Saturday, I think the first game for everybody. We're not 11 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:15.840 for everybody, but for some of the teams we'll be on on on Friday 12 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:21.040 here. But yeah, I looking for I'm looking forward to to seeing this 13 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.400 team in action, and I hope to see a great crowd on hand on 14 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.519 Saturday afternoon. I keep wanting to say the Young Center, but it is 15 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:32.680 at Freedom Hall, and that alone provides some nostalgia. And last year, 16 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:34.680 again I didn't get a chance to go in person because I was out of 17 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:41.599 town, but I think at that time only two players on that roster had 18 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:45.640 actually ever played in Freedom Hall, which really tells you just how long it's 19 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.079 been since that was the home for for louisvill men's basketball. But Peyton played 20 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.760 his freshman season there. I don't think Russ was ever there. Kyle Kurrick 21 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.680 of course shut that place down in epic fashion, and really unfortunate that Kyle 22 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.599 can't can't play. I don't know what's what the situation is with his family, 23 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:06.159 but hopefully it's nothing too serious. But they have finalized the roster and 24 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.479 added a couple of guys, and I'm glad to see that one of the 25 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:14.680 players that is returning from from last year's team is not a not a Louisville 26 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.159 Cardinal, but a Louisville native that I'm sure a lot of people around here 27 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:23.199 are familiar with. He played for Louisville's team last year, and you know, 28 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:25.960 I think he I think he's somebody that can that can certainly help. 29 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:30.199 And the name is Chris Dao, who played at Eastern and then went on 30 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:31.879 to Bellarman, had a great career. I know as of last year he 31 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:37.879 was still playing high level basketball professionally overseas. So the final roster is Rus 32 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:39.800 Smith, Payton, Siva Montrez, Harrold, Chris Jones, David Johnson, 33 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:44.280 Shane Behanon Shanan I want to walk you, Dylan Avar, Nick Mayo, 34 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:49.479 Omar Pruitt, Chris Dow and Derek Walker. So, Dylan Avar was on 35 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:52.039 the team last year. So is Nick Mayo, and so was Omar Pruitt. 36 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:53.840 For those who aren't familiar with those guys, I mean Nick Mayo was 37 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:58.199 a was a notable player for last year's team. I mean gave him great 38 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:02.240 energy off the bench, a really good place player professionally, and you know, 39 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:06.680 I'm glad to see he's back on the roster. And then Christal same 40 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:07.680 thing. And then Omar Prude is from out in the state, I believe 41 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.960 for Montgomery County. He played I think at William and Mary which is a 42 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.240 Division I school, and he's also still playing pro overseas. So Derek Walker 43 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:19.039 is the name that I got, to be honest with you, I wasn't. 44 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.000 I mean, I don't know that. I still don't know the connection. 45 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:24.120 I don't know how he ended up on Louisvel's roster, but he was 46 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:30.639 a really good player at Nebraska, so I think he graduated from Nebraska in 47 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:35.439 twenty twenty three. So he's a young guy and was honorable mention All Big 48 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.680 Ten in his last season, and in fact, in his senior season he 49 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:44.840 averaged let's see here, I can't pull up his stats from college, but 50 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:47.520 yeah, he's another young body. Again, He's a guy who just finished 51 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.000 playing college not that long ago, which, to be honest with you, 52 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.960 I think this year's team they have added some youth. I mean makes me 53 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:59.800 feel old to say that Peyton and Russ aren't young guys, but neither is 54 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.759 my and I guess neither is Chris Jones. But David Johnson is still very 55 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:05.000 young compared to a lot of guys that are going to be playing in this 56 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:10.199 and you know, I think he'll have a big impact. So really excited 57 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:14.120 to see this game on Saturday. If you remember, they're taking on a 58 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:18.519 Bellerman team that should be pretty challenging. I mean, I know we're talking 59 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:21.040 about some of the all time greats here at Louisville when it comes to these 60 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.480 names, but Bellerman, some of their all time greats are going to be 61 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.480 playing as well. And although they didn't have the same level of success in 62 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:30.600 college at you know, winning national championships, going to final fours. I 63 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:31.839 mean, these guys, some of these guys won a championship at the D 64 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:35.839 two level for Scotti before they made the jump to Division one, and are 65 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:40.079 really familiar with a lot of these guys. I mean, I know when 66 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:45.800 Peyton Russ and Shane and Chris and all those guys, even Nanu like. 67 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.279 I don't know if it still happens now, but a lot of the summer 68 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:54.399 runs with you know, during the summer was against Louisville Bellerman players. I 69 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:58.319 mean, and I know some of these guys have played against each other for 70 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:00.279 years. Rather it be whenever Louisville and be Lemon would play in an exhibition 71 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:04.199 game, or when they would play, you know, in these pickup games 72 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:08.800 that were highly competitive. Heck, some of these guys have probably played against 73 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.639 each other, maybe with each other, depending on where they've played professionally since 74 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:16.560 they left college. So it's a it's a let's see one o'clock. 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For those just now joining in, 92 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:16.160 we did talk once again a little bit about conference realignment, not because of 93 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:25.079 any big news about expansion in other leagues, but Florida State was handed some 94 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:29.959 humble pie earlier today, courtesy of Brett McMurphy of the Action Network. And 95 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:31.879 look, maybe they don't believe it, Maybe they think it's nonsense. Maybe 96 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:35.800 they think that hey, as soon as we're available, we'll see if one 97 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:39.879 of these leagues, the SEC of the Big Ten, don't give us an 98 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:45.439 invitation. We're Florida State. But it sounds as if that is exactly like. 99 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:49.680 They're fighting like hell to get out of the ACC. They're the ones 100 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:54.360 who first and I give them credit at least they weren't just acting as everything 101 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.839 was okay. They were willing to complain and then they took action by filing 102 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.519 a lawsuit. Now I still don't think they have a good chane of winning 103 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.519 said lawsuit, but you know, they want out of the ACC. They're 104 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:08.000 not making any secrets about it, but they don't have anywhere to go. 105 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:12.519 There's no invite coming from the SEC. It sounds like and the Big Ten 106 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:16.480 is not interested at all, not only or not just because they don't ever 107 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.959 want to expand, but because they don't have any interest in Florida State. 108 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:26.399 So I don't know, like if Florida State does find out that everything that 109 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.759 was told to Brett McMurphy about the potential chances of them landing in the SEC 110 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.680 or the Big Ten. And by the way, these weren't just random sources 111 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:41.000 from Brett McMurphy. These were the people he talked to that he quoted without 112 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:45.839 using their name of course, in this article. I mean these are university 113 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:51.600 presidents, conference personnel, athletic directors, network executives, consultants. I mean 114 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:57.040 he got quotes from all different kinds of people within the college, you know, 115 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.279 the high level college athletics world, and each and every one of them, 116 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.920 for the most part, in some former fashion, basically said yeah, 117 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.439 no thanks, we don't need Florida State. They don't do anything for us. 118 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.160 So I'm curious get if they get confirmation that that's legit and they and 119 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:16.319 they really feel as if, Okay, we're fighting like crazy, those billable 120 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:18.920 hours are racking up for the lawyers that we have trying to find us an 121 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:24.480 exit strategy from the ACC. Maybe we should just call it quits and realize, 122 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.959 hey, let's just try to make this work. I mean, they've 123 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.960 already gone this long, you'd have to wonder if they're if they would just 124 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:39.480 stop now. But again I've always said that I don't know why the Big 125 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.440 Ten of the SEC would just randomly add Florida State. And I say that 126 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:48.399 knowing that they would have more value as far as brand and reach than Louisville 127 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:52.320 and a lot of the schools in the ACC. But what never gets discussed 128 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:58.519 in all the different conference realignment stuff that does get discussed. You don't expand 129 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.399 just to expand nobody does that. That doesn't make any sense. That's a 130 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.159 waste of time and it's a waste of money because again, if you're bringing 131 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:07.639 in members just to bring in members, you know what that means. You've 132 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.279 got to put a plate down at the table to feed somebody else. Why 133 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:16.559 would you do that? Right, This makes no sense. So, you 134 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:22.440 know, Florida State, I think they clearly are a top level college football 135 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:26.639 program. Historically, they've got a huge fan base, great tradition, But 136 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.480 like that doesn't mean that it makes sense for the SEC or the Big Ten 137 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.840 to want to add them to to the lead or yeah, the SEC the 138 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.919 Big Ten to want to add them. So some more from this article, 139 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:43.600 and this is this is in regards to the the I guess the academic component 140 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.559 here. Let's see. Let me find the right part of this article I 141 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.799 was referencing. So, uh, well where is it? Yeah, it 142 00:09:52.799 --> 00:10:00.440 says, uh, Florida State's Association of American University status is an their red 143 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:05.720 flag in regards to the Big Ten. So every Big Ten school is a 144 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.320 member of the prestigious AAU. And when I say AAU, a lot of 145 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:15.039 people are thinking basketball. But again it's the Association of American Universities. So 146 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:20.360 all but Nebraska are members, which was which wasn't a member when it joined 147 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.759 the Big Ten but currently is not. I'm not sure how that played out, 148 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.000 but Florida State is not. So it's not a requirement for the Big 149 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:31.679 Ten to be an AAU member, but it is a preference. This is 150 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.759 another quote from one of these sources that Brett McMurphy sided says. It's it's 151 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.679 klubby among the presidents and AU membership is significant to them. Remember, these 152 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:46.000 are presidents and chancellors that make these expansion decisions. That's another thing that I 153 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:50.440 feel like it is not often thought about or mentioned whenever we talk realignment. 154 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.360 It in't just your ad, it's the it's the president, the board, 155 00:10:54.399 --> 00:11:00.000 the chancellors, these people who, by the way, are there not because 156 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:05.840 of athletics. They are there for the academic educational component of I mean again, 157 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:07.840 these are schools. It's hard to remember that at times, especially now 158 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.080 that it's pro sports at the college level, because that's exactly what it is. 159 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:16.679 But these people who have the most influence and power are not sports people. 160 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.559 Now. I think if they're good at what they do, they would 161 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.639 understand that athletics can be the biggest, the biggest marketing tool that you have, 162 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.960 and if you're successful and you invest in it, it's good for everybody 163 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.399 involved, not only the athletic side of things, but also the university as 164 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:35.039 a whole. There are a lot of people across the country that have decided 165 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:41.600 to go to a certain school because of the impact that that school had during 166 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:46.840 their childhood in sports. I mean, maybe it didn't make them a super 167 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.559 fan, but they were familiar with Hey man, look at these games at 168 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:52.720 Ole Miss. That looks like a hell of a place. What kind of 169 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.080 programs do they offer there? I might go there, like athletics is super 170 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.919 important when it comes to that when it comes to that stuff in Florida State, 171 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:05.519 you know doesn't even doesn't even check that box. In fact, I 172 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.600 think they've had some they've had some real messes on their hands when it comes 173 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.519 to the academic side of things. I think it was last time there was 174 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:13.799 like an I don't know if it's an annual thing, but they you know, 175 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:18.480 they they they grade out these universities as far as like which school is 176 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.720 considered to be the best as far as you know academics only, and schools 177 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.840 that Florida State clearly thinks they're better than, and are and they are better 178 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:30.600 than in sports than South Florida and Central Florida. But those are actually better 179 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:35.639 schools as far as you know the academic side. And while it seems silly 180 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.240 to think that that matters in a major way, it's got to matter a 181 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:45.159 little bit because again we're talking chancellors and and presidents and board members. These 182 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:48.759 are people that really, you know, they wouldn't like it if one of 183 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:54.679 their peers in their league, you know, is basically a junior college academically 184 00:12:54.759 --> 00:13:01.759 compared to their prestigious academic institution. So Clemson, you know, Clemson is 185 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:07.919 uh is is a different story. And I think they would have some value, 186 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:16.600 but not enough to where you just randomly add one team I mean Florida 187 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.799 State. I mean, what do you think, John, I mean, 188 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.240 we'll never know, I mean until until we you know, until it plays 189 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.200 out. But if I'm Florida State, like and I'm and I'm and I'm 190 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.679 getting this information and doing some vetting on my end to like confirm, I 191 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.399 mean, you would you wouldn't think that they would go through this process and 192 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.440 spend millions of dollars to get out of the ACC if they didn't already have 193 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:45.080 an invitation to go somewhere else. But it doesn't sound like they do. 194 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.159 So therefore, like if they get if they're learning this the hard way, 195 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.639 like, I don't think it's crazy to think that they might just decide to 196 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:54.480 take the gloves off and you know, go back to the table with the 197 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:56.200 ACC leadership and say, look, let's try to figure out how we can 198 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.919 salvage this because we can't go anywhere. Yeah, they've they've kind of been 199 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.679 the annoying kitten class and that might be a corny way to reference it, 200 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:09.440 but they've they've been the loudest school at least from the ACC's perspective in terms 201 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.240 of how to get that wanting to be out of the ACC. Yeah, 202 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:16.600 they've made it quite clear with their actions that they think they're above everyone in 203 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.840 this league and they're not going to stand for it anymore, right, I 204 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:20.960 mean, yeah, and now, if the big boys don't want you, 205 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.960 you're just kind of embarrassing yourself and really quite frankly embarrassing the rest of the 206 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:30.120 league. I feel like, yeah, I mean, if everybody was was 207 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.960 you know, locked in together, which technically they are, but if there 208 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:41.919 was truly a if there was some unity that made it to where everybody just 209 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.519 realized, we we can't leave. So let's do everything we can. Let's 210 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:52.679 work collectively as a conference to try to find revenue streams to close that gap. 211 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.039 Let's see if we can make ourselves more valuable in some form or fashion 212 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:01.559 to where we could get more money in our you know, media rights deal. 213 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.320 And that's not easy. And if that, if there was an easy 214 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.360 way to do it, they would have already done it long ago. Let's 215 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:11.480 be real. But they're stuck together, man like again. The thing that 216 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.799 that is viewed as the potential death blow to this league is also the one 217 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.840 thing that is still keeping it alive, and that is the fact that they're 218 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:24.960 all stuck together. And there are some new revenue incentives for league members who 219 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.159 have success, like you are going to be you're gonna you know, you're 220 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:33.440 gonna be rewarded more than others if you are a school that is winning at 221 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:37.159 a higher level, and that's the way it should be. But I don't 222 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.240 know, like, if we're all being honest with ourselves, everybody in the 223 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:43.240 ACC, if you could get in, like if there was a way for 224 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.720 you to do it without paying a gazillion dollars and you knew you had an 225 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.440 invite, every one of the everybody in the ACC would happily go to the 226 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.840 Big ten or the SEC. But now that that just appears to be so 227 00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:02.600 unlikely, you know, I think maybe could get some unity here. It 228 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:07.279 may not be for the right reasons, but it's at least something because unless 229 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:12.799 there's some level of like everybody coming together to try to change them morale and 230 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.480 be proactive and trying to fix the situation rather than filing lawsuits and trying to 231 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:22.919 leave, I mean, unless that happens, I think this is a never 232 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:29.720 ending situation where we're just like the league is just for years going to be 233 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:33.039 discussed as this league is essentially dead, but you know it's actually not because 234 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:37.480 they're all stuck, you know, like and it's not fun. It's not 235 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.200 a fun league to be in. And look, I'm sure there are like 236 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.360 a lot of ace Like again, it's just Florida State mostly. I mean, 237 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.679 Clemson's also filed a lawsuit, but they've not been as public about you 238 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.399 know. I mean I remember whenever there were stories coming out of those board 239 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.440 meetings that were taking place in Tallahassee of the things that were said, and 240 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:57.480 you know, I think they looked I mean, Florida State quite literally looks 241 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:04.440 at themselves as much superior school program than anybody in the ACC. And although 242 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.359 that may be true when it comes to like tradition and I guess brand I 243 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.720 mean, they haven't really been that successful and you know, in a long 244 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:15.920 time. Last year was a big breakthrough for him, no doubt. But 245 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.319 I've become anti Florida State because of how they've handled this thing, which is 246 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:23.200 kind of weird because in a way it doesn't really impact Louisville and in any 247 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:29.160 way, but wouldn't it be weird if they just like out of nowhere, 248 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:33.920 announced their independence, like they were seceding from the ACC and just said come 249 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.119 get us. Well, they'll be by ourselves until somebody takes us. But 250 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.079 that would that would they can't even do that exactly, and I know they 251 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:41.359 can't, but it'd be funny if they did something more well, because but 252 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.039 here's the thing, if they found a way out, I feel like that 253 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.960 would be you know, that would be the only thing they could do, 254 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:49.960 and they wouldn't be on a network like it would be you know. And 255 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.319 by the way, that is why that number gets so astronomical, is because 256 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.759 you know, you could the amount of years on that deal, like it's 257 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:04.880 something about like, for example, if they were able to get out of 258 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:08.240 like this is something I read a few weeks ago that you know this because 259 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.039 I was digging to try to find if is there anybody out there that's a 260 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:15.599 legal expert that is covering this lawsuit that has given some kind of an opinion 261 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.359 on which way this is going to go, and if if Florida State or 262 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.880 Clemson might have some leverage or whatever. And the only thing that I saw, 263 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:23.920 and it made it even more confusing, is that like, even if 264 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.400 they did find a certain amount of money, they could they could get a 265 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:32.079 reduced buyout, and it really wouldn't be a buyout, but it would be 266 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.359 your way of saying, because because the ACC is foolish to give them any 267 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:37.720 buyout, they just they would be they'd be silly. But they could pay 268 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:41.799 a certain amount that is not the you know, half a billion or whatever 269 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.960 it is. But yet they couldn't have games on TV until twenty thirty four 270 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.519 because the ACC owns that. Still. That's why, that's why that number 271 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:53.039 is so big. It's because it's for it's for that many amount of years. 272 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:57.319 So I mean, we'll see, I mean I I once once, 273 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:02.279 you know, season getting what alignment really is a big talking point in July 274 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:07.000 because we're just anxiously, you know, impatiently waiting for the season to start. 275 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:10.319 And typically this I feel like this is the time of the year when 276 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:12.759 we always spend time discussing realignment, and more often than not, it's all 277 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.119 for nothing. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other 278 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.680 side, taking you up till six o'clock. We'll stick around right here on 279 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.759 Sports Talk seven ninety. I'd say there are a lot of bars around town 280 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:29.440 right now, really everywhere across the planet, that as of five thirty pm, 281 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:32.039 they're still on happy hour. Some places don't offer happy hour, but 282 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:34.400 a lot of places do. And you know, it's a place to it's 283 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.640 the time of the day where you can get drinks and maybe some appetizers for 284 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:42.359 cheaper than what you get them any other time of the day. And this 285 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:47.079 story is one that I really wouldn't believe was real until you know, I 286 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:51.960 see that it is coming from legitimate news sources. But the state of Massachusetts 287 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:56.839 is on the verge of overturning its forty year ban on happy hours. So 288 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:02.519 for forty years it has been illegal for or bars, restaurants, establishments you 289 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:07.000 know that serve alcohol to have some. I mean, I don't know what 290 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.759 the actual regulation is of a happy hour as far as like what has to 291 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:12.000 constitute as a real happy hour. Would to say, it's just when you're 292 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.359 giving people a certain window of time where they can come in and get drinks 293 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:21.759 for a reduced price. And forty years ago, in nineteen eighty four, 294 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:26.559 they did ban it in Massachusetts. This is from Boston News twenty five. 295 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.319 It says happy hours one step closer to making a comeback in Massachusetts. On 296 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:34.839 Thursday, the Senate approved an amendment and a larger economic package to let bars 297 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:38.880 offer discounts on alcoholic drinks before ten pm. The amendment is part of a 298 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.880 two point eight billion dollar economic bill filed by one of the senators who represents 299 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:49.720 the Cape and Islands. This is a quote from from Let's See. I'm 300 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.559 not sure who it's from, maybe it's from this senator, but it says 301 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:56.839 it's been forty years since the happy hour ban was put in place. Massachusetts 302 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.160 was the first state in the nation to have a happy hour ban, and 303 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:03.759 at the time in nineteen eight before it probably made some good sense where the 304 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:07.519 dangers of happy hour and with the dangers of happy hour and especially drunk and 305 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:12.759 driving at a rampant rate across the country. So now they're going to go 306 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:17.480 back and change it. So shout out to those in Massachusetts that may be 307 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:21.000 able to have happy hour again, even if you're not really saving that amount 308 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:26.920 of money, Like drinking during happy hour kind of feels awesome, Like it 309 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.079 feels better than when you're drinking and enjoying a drink when it's not happy hour. 310 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.880 Even if it's maybe the same price and you're just told, hey, 311 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:40.440 it's happy hour, there's gonna be an added vibe and it's awesome. It 312 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:44.640 feels very anti Massachusetts don't even have a law like that. I agree. 313 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:47.559 Now, Back in the day, though, like I mean, I know 314 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.000 what it costs to you know, get a gallon of gas was much cheaper 315 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.440 forty years ago. And what it mean, like, obviously the cost of 316 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.039 living has is clearly going to always rise. But with alcohol, you know, 317 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.319 the same beer you're drinking now, I mean, you could get it 318 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:08.440 for like a quarter during a happy hour, and like you could make the 319 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:14.559 case that maybe beer draft beer at a restaurant or a bar. I mean, 320 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.720 what has gone up in price more than that since nineteen eighty four. 321 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:22.480 I mean, I'm sure you could find something that the percentage of of I 322 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.319 mean, it's way more expensive as far as just you know, but like 323 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.519 I've heard stories from my you know, family members that are older than me, 324 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:34.839 just people I know that are you know, a lot older than me 325 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:40.200 that talk about how, you know, they could go out and just get 326 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:45.160 completely tanked and spend a couple bucks, which sounds crazy and I'm probably exaggerating 327 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.119 a little bit, but you know you can't do that now. Like, 328 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:52.880 one of the things that I think at times can keep people from over indulging 329 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.680 is that it's just not affordable. I mean, heck, you go to 330 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.160 dinner and you're not looking to get ham. I wouldn't think, but like 331 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:08.319 it's an investment to drink alcohol at a sit down restaurant. I mean especially 332 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:14.799 you know, it's like, for example, I feel like any Mexican restaurant 333 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:18.720 you go to now, like if because my wife and I, she always 334 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:22.319 is going to get a frozen margarita and I'm always going to get one of 335 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.240 those thirty two ounce draft beers. That's just our go to when we go 336 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:29.000 to a Mexican restaurant. And you know, they always tell you if you 337 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:32.119 try to order one that's you know, smaller, like a twenty two ounce 338 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:34.519 instead of a thirty two ounce, or a medium sized margarita instead of the 339 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:38.000 jumbo, Like they always tell you, what, hey, this one's this 340 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.319 one's a better deal, you know, and it probably is because of the 341 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:44.759 amount you're getting, But you know, we really don't need that amount. 342 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.279 I mean, I could just get a smaller beer and be fine with eating 343 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:52.559 my meal, but you know, like that it ends up being super expensive 344 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:53.599 because of that. Like we've at times looked at our bill and thought, 345 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:59.200 man, if we didn't get it, you know, get a drink of 346 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:03.079 you know, it's got water or maybe even like a coke or something instead 347 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:04.160 of a beer and a Margarita're like, you know, how much money we'd 348 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:08.079 save. But we're degenerates. We like drinking, so we don't ever. 349 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.319 I mean, if we're gonna sacrifice, we just won't eat what is drink 350 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:12.720 and let our kids eat. I mean I say that kind of jokingly, 351 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:17.440 but also kind of not joking, because you know, I could eat at 352 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:22.880 home and be fine. So yeah, shout out to Massachusetts for being able 353 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.400 to potentially get happy hour back. And again, I bet there's people listening 354 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:32.200 right now on their way to catch a happy hour real quick before six o'clock 355 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:33.799 because a lot of them, I don't know, I guess a lot of 356 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.240 them cut off different times, and it varies, but I feel like usually 357 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:40.680 that's one of the things about this gig. We're always on the air during 358 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.599 happy hour, and that's you know, that's that's the price. Peo Page 359 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.359 on to be drivetime Radio on the biggest sports station, you know, as 360 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.839 far as reach and signal in this in this state, there are benefits though. 361 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:53.079 We don't have to sit in traffic like some of these. That is 362 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:59.839 so true. Yeah, I mean getting home at six point thirty seven, 363 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.720 I've gotten used to it by now and it's really not that late. But 364 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:04.880 whenever I was getting ready to make the move to afternoons, I did think 365 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.759 like, oh, this is going to be a big adjustment for me, 366 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:10.599 me not getting off work till six o'clock and not being able to like meet 367 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:14.960 the family or get home until closer to seven. I just felt like it 368 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:17.880 would be a big adjustment, and it wasn't at all. It's actually kind 369 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:21.119 of awesome because we miss all the hustle and bustle of everybody end in their 370 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.920 day. I mean, most people by six o'clock that are downtown have already 371 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.559 left. I mean, it's not a ghost town. But I rarely hit 372 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.440 any traffic downtown when we leave here. Yeah, me neither. The only 373 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.839 thing. The only time I ever hit traffic is if you know, there's 374 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.799 an accident. Yeah, and that's I mean, that's usually pretty rare too. 375 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:41.279 I mean, and I feel like this really speaks to the amount of 376 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.480 people who usually have finished their commuting for the day when we leave. There 377 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.279 could be an accident that I feel like if it happened an hour before we 378 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.319 were there, we'd be sitting for many hours. Whereas it six o'clocks or 379 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.720 six thirty or whatever it may be, Like, you can, you know, 380 00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:57.039 might hold you up for you know, just a little bit of just 381 00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:00.759 a little bit of time. All right, Le's go to text one five 382 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.559 O two six five three zero seven nineties the number if you guys would like 383 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:06.920 to text in this text, says Nick. Any clue. Coach Lieberman decided 384 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:10.400 not to coach this group in the TVT once again. I felt like he 385 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.880 was a big part of last year's success. Yeah, I don't know why 386 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:19.000 he did not want to participate in in coaching once again. Mark did a 387 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.480 great job last year and he's a hell of a coach. I would imagine 388 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.880 that his decision to not do it this year is because he just got a 389 00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:29.279 new gig. He's now coaching at Holy Cross High School here in town, 390 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:32.680 so I know he's putting a lot of his energy and effort into taking over 391 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.079 that program. And I'm sure he's happy to be back coaching to where that 392 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.799 is you know, his his gig, his you know his I mean, 393 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.920 he's a lifelong coach, made Louisville his home whenever he moved here to join 394 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:47.519 Rick Patino's staff and had some great years and I know his his daughter is 395 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.400 still here in in the area, which is why I think he's made Louisville 396 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.680 home. And uh, yeah, my guess would be that is why he 397 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:57.960 is. He's not coaching, but Rhys Gaines uh is going to be leading 398 00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:03.160 this group and you know he can he can pick up where where coach Lieberman 399 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.400 left off. All right, So do you I don't think, well, 400 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.880 I don't know, now that I think about it, I probably have, 401 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.920 but I don't know if you have. Are you an emoji guy? Do 402 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:17.960 you text with emojis? John? I mean not excessively, but sometimes I'll 403 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.319 kind of tag a text message with an emoji. That's so that I don't 404 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.440 I think that's different. I think that when you say tagg, do you 405 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.559 mean like, because you can you can hold like and respond with one of 406 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.400 those emojis, right, Yeah, What I mean by tag is like, 407 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.079 I'll say a couple of sentences and if I want to show emotion with the 408 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.160 very last thing I'll put could be an emoji. Okay, that makes sense. 409 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:38.920 I do the same thing and it's not. I'm with you, and 410 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:44.920 I don't think it's like excessive, and I don't think I mean, this 411 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.799 is a survey that that you know, I never know how legit it is, 412 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.920 but this is by s WNS Digital. It says forty percent of Americans 413 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:56.160 think a text feels naked without an emoji. I'd say nine out of every 414 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:59.440 ten texts I said don't have an emoji, but I will throw it in 415 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:02.960 there when I feel like it. Like, to me, it's the vibe 416 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.279 emojis have replaced the LOL, Like LOL just became so played out and such 417 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:12.680 a lie because ninety nine point nine percent of the time when somebody says LOL 418 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.839 and a text message or on a post, you know what, they're not 419 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:21.319 really laughing out loud. It's a lie. They're misleading you. And by 420 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:26.039 the way, did LOL come from like the chat room world and carry over 421 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.640 to texting? It wouldn't surprise me, because the longevity of LOL really surprised 422 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.880 me. Yes, I feel like so the very first time I had a 423 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.599 cell phone that could text. It was one of those flip flips, the 424 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.720 flip phones, And I feel like it was way more commonplace back in those 425 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.799 times to use you know, shorter words or things that weren't even words, 426 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.839 but like text could be txt instead of t e xt. It would be 427 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.440 silly stuff like that, and there was more work on a on a flip 428 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:57.720 phone. And really the early like pre smartphone, even early age of smartphones, 429 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.440 I feel like it is harder to text, Like it wasn't as convenient 430 00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:06.119 to where you can just I mean, and you weren't using your phone for 431 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.440 anything like that at the time because these phones didn't have the Internet. Now 432 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:14.319 we use these things so often that typing out a forced sentenced text message is 433 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.880 really a breeze because of how often we use to type on these things anyway, 434 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.359 you know what I mean, like emails and I mean, heck, 435 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.160 social media, that kind of stuff, like I mean, I know I 436 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.400 know people who have I mean, and this makes sense. This isn't you 437 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.640 know I mean, this, this doesn't this isn't that crazy. I was 438 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.839 about to present it as if it's like you wouldn't believe this, but I 439 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.599 guess it's actually the new world now is that I know people whose jobs like 440 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.480 they have a work computer and they occasionally might need to like, you know, 441 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.119 put together a PDF, but like they just use their phone, you 442 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.640 know when it comes to making calls, text messages, emails, research information, 443 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.799 Like you can really do anything on your phone. So you know, 444 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.880 the emojis do they come? I mean again, I should know this as 445 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.440 an iPhone guy, but like you don't have to have like an app to 446 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.799 be able to have access to like all the emojis, do you? No, 447 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.240 not for any smartphone that I'm aware of. Yeah, maybe I'm thinking 448 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:08.680 of like the Yeah, because there's an app I have on my phone that 449 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.400 I'm not even really sure if I still need it, But it's like a 450 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.960 it's a Jiff app, And I feel like if I didn't have that app 451 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.000 when I go to send a Jiff in a text, it wouldn't Yeah, 452 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.920 Jiff keyboard. I have that on my on my iPhone, and I feel 453 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.200 like that's what that's that's what is utilized whenever I try to send a Jiff 454 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:32.000 through text. Yeah, the most I mean, the laughing emoji is what 455 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:37.160 I use often. Yeah, now that I'm looking at all the available e 456 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.559 mojis, I feel like I have used of more than maybe I maybe I 457 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.759 realized. But the most frequently used mojis, according to the survey, is 458 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.119 just the standard smile face, coming in at number one twenty three percent. 459 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:55.240 Right behind it at twenty one percent is the red heart. I don't think 460 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.799 i've ever sent that. I have You're a lover, that's right, thumbs 461 00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:03.200 up eighteen percent. I've sent that one. That's probably the most common one 462 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.119 that I send. Yeah, roll yeah, Actually, now that I think 463 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.920 of it, I think that's like if somebody, yeah, somebody asked me 464 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.720 a question, I'll hit them with the thumbs up. Yeah, that's that's 465 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.720 usually my quick way to respond. Rolling on the floor laughing. I don't 466 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.240 use that one very often. Tears of joy. I do use that, 467 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.880 in fact, the tears of joy, laughing tears essentially, that's probably one 468 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:34.319 of my more commonly used emojis. And let's see here, there's one that's 469 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.920 blushing. So yeah, I don't know if i'd say that. I feel 470 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.640 like a text message feels naked without it. But this conversation and just looking 471 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.039 at all these emojis has made me realize that I do, in fact use 472 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.039 it more than I realized, all right, quick break, we'll come back 473 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:49.720 on the other side. Put the finishing touches here. On a Tuesday edition 474 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.799 of the show, again, it's coffee and Company. Feel by Thornton's on 475 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:57.319 Sports Talk seven ninety I'm not sure if this has become like a huge story 476 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.880 in the world of sports. If so, it's probably just because of, 477 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.839 you know, the time of the year. But I did find it refreshing 478 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:10.799 to see someone that is, you know, a caliber star like Jalen Brown, 479 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:16.240 you know, understand perception matters right, be able to read the room. 480 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.400 And what I'm getting at is he was spotted at the Summer League watching 481 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.240 the Lakers play last night, and he was with someone, a woman, 482 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:29.359 and he looked over and they happened to have the camera on him at the 483 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.519 worst possible time for him, I suppose, But he was I mean, 484 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:35.200 it was quite clear he in fact, he was sitting somebody who was in 485 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.720 but I guess it was his girlfriend. But Angel Reese was next to him. 486 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:45.039 But he says, I don't think Brownie is a pro, And it's 487 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.599 quite clear that's exactly what he said, Like you can read his lips. 488 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.920 There's really I mean, I don't know. Have you ever seen those videos 489 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.519 where they yeah, like that makes it to wear. Okay, No, 490 00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.799 now that you have changed to what you've changed the words of what was actually 491 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.519 said. As crazy as it is, it sounds, and I know it's 492 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:06.279 not real, like I would believe it because you know, I guess that's 493 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:07.640 actually a good sign that you can't actually read lips the way that you think 494 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.440 you can. But he didn't deny it, like he didn't once every button 495 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.880 once he became a story and everybody started sharing the clip of him saying it. 496 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:15.640 You couldn't hear him, but it was clear that he was saying, 497 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.720 I don't think Bronni's a pro. You know, it was just another another 498 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.960 hit to this whole charade that is Lebron James finessing the Lakers into drafting his 499 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.480 son. And I mean, I can't fake emotion that's not there. Like 500 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:35.200 I'm not like genuinely sad about it, but like the whole thing is sad, 501 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.319 not as if like he's a victim. I mean the guy. I 502 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.319 mean, even if he never played in the NBA, he's gonna always have 503 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.759 a lot more going for him than most of us because he's Lebron James's son, 504 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.720 he'll never go without. Like he's I mean, his name is Lebron 505 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.160 James Junior. He's just called Bronni, So I mean, like he's he's 506 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:52.720 gonna be okay even if it doesn't work out in the NBA. And there's 507 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.119 others that if it doesn't work out in the NBA, you know, hopefully 508 00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.279 they can find, you know, a career elsewhere. But I just, 509 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.079 you know, this whole like it's pathetic. It really is, like I 510 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.720 you know, and I don't take this out on Bronnie. He's a kid, 511 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:15.039 but like there's no way Lebron James can actually believe that anyone sees this 512 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:20.119 as anything other than what it is. So again, the comments from Brown 513 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:24.719 took off on social media, and you know, I'm sure he wasn't happy 514 00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.320 that that was the case, and he didn't deny it, but he did 515 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.039 say this. This was something he tweeted out, which he hadn't tweeted in 516 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:37.320 a while, but he said this on Twitter. He says, well, 517 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.159 I don't have the actual tweet, but the article I'm referencing here says bron 518 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:45.000 later clarified or Brown later clarified his comments symphesizing the greatness and longevity of lebron 519 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:50.559 James and expressed his anticipation for Bronnie's growth, indicating that Bronnie has all the 520 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:55.159 tools to be successful. The discussion also touched on Yeah, the rest of 521 00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.280 the article just goes on to talk about how you know, it's on fair 522 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:06.039 for Bronnie because he now has expectating even if his dad wasn't doing what he's 523 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.719 doing. And I also at times feel uncomfortable claiming like, oh, what 524 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.920 an awful guy, because he's just I mean, he's he has leverage, 525 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.079 and if you're gonna use your leverage to help your children, I can't really 526 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.559 fault you, because I feel like that's human instincts to do that kind of 527 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.280 stuff for your kids. But then again, like you know, it's also 528 00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:25.960 making you look bad in your workplace, if that makes sense. But again, 529 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.559 you have the ability to look bad and not it not matter to you 530 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:30.800 at all because you are, you know, one of the best that's ever 531 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:37.079 done it. But even if his dad wasn't you know, trying to pull 532 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.360 this whole charade on everybody that his son is legitimately like an NBA prospect, 533 00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:45.320 an NBA future NBA player. Just being Lebron James's son and playing basketball would 534 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.000 come with like a lot of things that would suck again off the floor. 535 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.519 It's not like you're going without You're gonna probably be okay, But the pressure 536 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:58.000 of being the son of one of the best players that's ever played is is 537 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.880 a lot man And I think Bronnie for the most part, always handled himself 538 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:05.800 really well until you know, he got drafted and acted as if he never 539 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:07.800 had even thought about But I never even thought about being in the league with 540 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.639 my dad. I just know you own Like, I mean, come on 541 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.920 now, he's a chip off the old block, right ye apple, don't 542 00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.840 fall far from the tree as far as just you know, not having any 543 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:22.320 real clue of how you come off to people. Like I'm curious, like 544 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.239 if he spends two years in the G League and like he doesn't produce there 545 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.880 and like he's just you know, on the bottom of that roster whatever the 546 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.920 Lakers G League team is, I mean, does he just I mean, 547 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.400 like, what do they do? Like it wouldn't surprise me if they do 548 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.719 like a fake injury type of thing where he's sitting out and just never plays 549 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:44.360 ever. And that's just his way. His legacy, I mean sucks, 550 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:45.840 but I mean, who knows, I would believe anything. There's got to 551 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:51.159 be an exit strategy for him if it doesn't work out, because there have 552 00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.840 been guys who were young, undeveloped, just raw that you know, don't 553 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:58.719 show much potential and don't show a whole lot right out of the gate when 554 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.159 they get to the pros and the summer legue. And maybe that's Browny here, 555 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:05.199 but there's also really been never any there's never been any level at any 556 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.559 point that shows that he's like that good of a player. He's clearly talented 557 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.519 and skilled in athletic and he's got great jeans. But like I mean, 558 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.000 even at the high school level, I mean, he was probably not a 559 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.840 top one fifty player, and yet he ended up there because you know, 560 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.679 he's Lebron James junior. All Right, everybody, have a good night. 561 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.599 We'll be back at it tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven ninety