WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:07.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and jaken Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:14.199 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure your most Prized Possessions, Katie z 3 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:19.280 R Two said at iHeart Radio Station, play good afternoon, Everybody, Welcome 4 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:22.800 to Why on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera 5 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:27.239 alongside partner Jaken Zois. It's funny how things just puff up and kind of 6 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.719 the show interrupts what you're doing. You know, Steve, we've been doing 7 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:32.240 this for nearly three years, right, we're going on three years. We 8 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:36.200 have showing three months, yeah, next month. It's amazing to me that 9 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:40.600 we are still surprised by three o'clock. By three o'clock that it's three o'clock 10 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:43.479 on our shows about this started, we still like, oh, we gotta 11 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:47.880 get going now. It's surprises. It's funny. It's funny. I think 12 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:50.240 part of our charm, and we talk about this every now and again, 13 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:52.560 is how we kind of add live a lot of craft that we do. 14 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:57.479 We had everything pretty much, which is kind of cool. I think we 15 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:00.079 don't script anything or do anything. We'll have subjects that we talked about. 16 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.079 Uh, and that's kind of just the back and proNT that we have. 17 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:06.879 If we could just have a beer or two, that would be even better, 18 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:08.719 can you imagine? Because that's kind of how we should be, you 19 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:11.719 know, Yeah, just a couple of guys if we smoked a cigar. 20 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.680 Hey, you know remember that time? Remember that time? Yeah? You 21 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.400 know we think we do? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, probably are drunk 22 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.439 talking right exactly what do you say? He didn't pronounce that? Hey, 23 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.319 so I'm reading hate me and this is why I'm going to hell. This 24 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.400 is what I'm going to hell. I read Facebook quay too much and people 25 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.159 commenting on stuff. I'm gonna see if I can find that one I read 26 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.719 to you. It was what did I tell you? I found it somewhere 27 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:44.000 right. It was about a complaining about h He was surprised about everyzone and 28 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:48.480 losing out to recruits because of it's a number one program or well world program, 29 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:53.959 probability everything history, right, uh, the style of play. But 30 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.319 he missed missed one thing. Money. Money? Yeah, how'd you lis 31 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.439 a guy to Alabama? Money? How did you a guy who can zney 32 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:04.680 money? And guess what? That's the New World Age? Okay? So 33 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:07.359 they so I asked you what about this topic? And this week kind of 34 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.599 discussed this maybe for five seconds. People, if you were the commissioner of 35 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:15.840 the team, how would you fix things? How would you fix things? 36 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:23.680 Is it fixable? Oh? God? You know, um, it's it's 37 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:27.599 hard to know because in some cases money is a big deal, but in 38 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.479 some cases it might not be right. It might not all be about the 39 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:32.479 money. But certainly it's more about the money than it used to be. 40 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.759 Sure when it was even last year, then it's six months ago. When 41 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.599 you see how how this has developed over the last couple of years, that 42 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:46.319 you know, they're just this assumption. You'r Arizona should be able to get 43 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:50.479 whoever you want. But if Arizona doesn't have, you know, a half 44 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.560 a million dollars or two hundred thousand dollars to say here you go, kid, 45 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:59.080 they might not get that guy. And you know when you when you 46 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:02.520 read me that text message or that that Facebook posted, a person saying, 47 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:07.599 how does Arizona lose to lose a player to Alabama? What is the one 48 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:13.240 thing that Alabama has at Arizona does not money? Money? Money and a 49 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.479 rising program and a program that's in the in the news right, Why why 50 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:21.039 is it rising? Right? Here's the right, right, No, of 51 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:23.039 course, because they're probably getting more money. It's got a football program that's 52 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:27.400 bringing in a lot of money, and and and isn't the what did the 53 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.599 former a D say? Athletics is the ports of the of the front parts 54 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:34.719 of the of the school of the school. So and they're doing pretty well. 55 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.560 Here's the here's the eleve mentioned the guy's name. Because I don't need 56 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:42.280 to astounding to discover that Arizona basketball is unable to attract top talent from the 57 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:46.879 transfer portal given their national ranking, loyal family base, let me take that 58 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:51.000 first line, please please, okay, we can breaking down. Unable to 59 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:54.840 attract top talent from the transfer portal? How do you know that? Right? 60 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.400 Right? And they got they got they got a couple of pretty good 61 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.319 guys last year. Tom and Tommy is out there recruiting. How do you 62 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:06.199 know that he's not attracting top talent? You don't know that until you know 63 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.840 what the team looks like, until they say this is our team. How 64 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:15.080 do you know that given their national ranking? Okay, okay, okay, 65 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.600 top still top program, loyal fan base. Let's have questions. I have 66 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:23.240 questions about the fan base of what it's become over the last especially these last 67 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:27.360 two years, where Tommy has come in here and done everything you've asked him 68 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.439 to do short of getting to the final four, and yet all we hear 69 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:34.560 is the complaining right to the point where I'm gonna just say it, and 70 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.759 I believe this happened. They ran a point guard out of town. It 71 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:42.120 was pretty good. It was. I think it's partially that money and money, 72 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.040 right, money, because but what he loved. But you know, 73 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:47.079 if he really loved it here would if Kirt Creasa would have stayed here, 74 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:49.800 right, I don't need this be yeah, yeah, you know you couldn't 75 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:56.759 have bought him out of sure like to go to West freaking Virginia okay, 76 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:02.680 okay, so iconic arena okay, and a fast paced style of play okay, 77 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.120 they want to play that, no question about that. But no mention 78 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:11.000 of nil, no mention of money, no mention of that. And to 79 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.399 me, that's the number one thing. He buried the lead. In fact, 80 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:17.680 he didn't even put the lead in there. One would think that Arizona 81 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.839 is a coveted destination. However, the opposite seems to be true with the 82 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:27.360 likes of Alabama being chosen over Arizona. What is the problem. First of 83 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.879 all, the opposite is not true. Arizona is still a top program that 84 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:35.439 players want to play for. But again, the factor that has entered into 85 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:40.759 this now is the money. So there was twenty eight likes or dislikes, 86 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.240 laughs or whatever, one hundred and fifty four comments. And I've said this 87 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.079 to you a few times. I spoke to some people today. If one 88 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.360 hundred and fifty four people commented or their comments, put ten dollars every time 89 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:56.639 you comment in there that you're bitching or whatever, that's gonna be what one 90 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.839 thousand and fifty fifty's to the add that to the nil money? Right, 91 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.399 give them that money and not to help solve some problems. For how many 92 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:08.560 of those people did zero? I would? I would if so, five 93 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.959 percent, if that. But if you're going to be part of the solution, 94 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:15.560 part of what you think you have a solution, then be part of 95 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.600 the solution. But don't don't say, don't question, and then not have 96 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:23.560 an idea how to fix it, right right? Yeah? You know? 97 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:25.879 And that and that's kind of the problem that I had with a lot of 98 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:28.959 the comments been made both by the public and some of the media in this 99 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.240 town saying, you know, Tommy can't recruit anymore. You have to question 100 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:34.639 his ability to recruit if he can't get the kid who went to Gonzaga, 101 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:41.800 right, Yeah, you have to question what is Arizona have to offer anymore. 102 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.639 If it doesn't have the money to offer a kid like that, you're 103 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.279 not gonna get them. You know, if if all things are equal, 104 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:50.720 and one school is offering a whole bunch of money at that another one isn't. 105 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:56.000 They're taking the money because a lot of these kids realize I've got to 106 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:58.879 get my money now because I may not get to the NBA. So if 107 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:02.519 I can make six figures at a school, you don't help me do whatever 108 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:05.040 I want to do when I get out of school, I'm gonna take that. 109 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:11.959 It's it's ridiculous. Yeah, And to anybody's point, if you're gonna 110 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.680 be to anybody's pointing, to my point, if you want to help help, 111 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.199 if you have any answers, suggest yeah, but I doubt if you 112 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.839 do, Yeah, don't stand there and bitch if you don't have a solution, 113 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:27.759 solution or just a suggestion, and what it is it's gonna come down 114 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.480 to money. It's like the good looking do that high school and saying, 115 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:32.519 the girls aren't asking me, they're not following me anymore. What the hell 116 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:38.120 happened? Maybe you're just a jerk. You smell back. You don't realize 117 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:42.720 it. I you know, Steve, I think I think what we're looking 118 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.720 at though, is that this is this is going to continue to get more 119 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:49.560 and more frustrating. Oh sure, people don't take into account all the factors 120 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:58.040 that are now affecting recruiting players staying you know, I mean like when those 121 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:01.360 when those three guys went to USC. Mhmm, you're not okay, what 122 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:03.879 do you What more do you want? You're starting at a major college program. 123 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.120 What more do you want? Well, I want to go to USC 124 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.720 where not only am I a bigger and better program, they've got money to 125 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.519 give me. Well I'll even go before that, which is a great point 126 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:20.439 of yours softball, right to the best women's softball players on this team, 127 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:24.879 right right both to where you see why, Oh it's a better program. 128 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.720 Yeah, and it has been, it has been, and it is right 129 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.399 now. Would you blame them? You know, I don't. It's just 130 00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:37.759 the way of the world man way of the world. It's while while so 131 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:43.399 many people have been slow, I've been quick to criticize and complain, they've 132 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.759 been slow to understand how much it's changed. Without question, and it changed 133 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:52.200 like boom overnight. It wasn't like a gradual It was a boom like in 134 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:56.200 the last couple of years. And then and then maybe Arizona was a little 135 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:58.279 late to the dance. But the thing is, I know that I know 136 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.399 about Arizona. I could be talking. I don't know about other schools because 137 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:05.279 I'm just not covering that team. They could have been late to the answer. 138 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.440 I know they're working their butt off to try to catch up, right 139 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.840 or trying to generate what they can. We had uh the assistant, we 140 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.639 had Adam Adam Lazarus, who's they're doing a trying to do a great job 141 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.679 specific for basketball. And then the wilbur and Wilma there's they have technical So 142 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.360 if you want to help, there's your avenue. Right, you're the fan 143 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.799 in the room, like I told them, the sporting I'm the guy who's 144 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:31.679 kind of just observer. But it needs it needs to happen. It just 145 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.600 does well. It's it's a whole it's a whole other level of support that 146 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.879 fans have to engage in if they want their programs to get better. And 147 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.559 if they don't, you're gonna you are gonna fall behind. Sure, And 148 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.360 I think I think this kid going to Alabama, where he went to Alabama, 149 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:50.360 he visited Alabama, had a visit scheduled to Arizona. Whatever they said 150 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:58.200 at Alabama, he said, I'm in there's McDonald's bag under the seat right, 151 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.720 you know. And and when the issues that we have and that we 152 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:05.480 don't know is how much how much money is it is in play for some 153 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.240 of these Did they say, you know, you come here, you get 154 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:11.960 two hundred thousand dollars? Is it a half a million dollars? Is it 155 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.840 a million dollars? What is it? Right? Well, you don't know 156 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.879 that. We've already discussed with you. And I can argue this when we 157 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:20.120 have in the past in the pecking order of the PAC twelve, right, 158 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:26.799 Arizona falls smile six seven. That's just before all this. This is before 159 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.120 all this. Now where does it land with this? It could have fallen 160 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.440 not your two and then so you have to we have to make up. 161 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.799 Yeah, And the funny thing is if I've heard, we hear stuff, 162 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.720 right, do you hear stuff? I've heard that Arizona has lots of money 163 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:48.159 to offer and has offered, has given players, certain players oodles of money. 164 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.200 And then have also heard that's camp that cam'p beat your Arizona doesn't have 165 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.960 that kind of true, So we don't. We just don't, even probably 166 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.200 from good sources both ways, ways, right right, I'm also talking about 167 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:03.559 automobile things like that, that you know that basketball players would get in the 168 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.120 court of a million dollars. Yeah, you know, I'm like, I 169 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.279 can't believe that that's true, and then said it's not true, that's not 170 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.279 happening. Yeah, you know, I think is a very reliable song. 171 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:15.000 Yeah yeah, And I've heard the same, just the opposite. So so 172 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:16.600 it's, um, it's who do you believe? But I do know that 173 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.600 this is a new world, and in order to conquer the new world, 174 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.639 you have to have the Benjamin's you just you just do. And I say 175 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:30.759 that because I'm twelve years old or like you or whatever. You start Benjamin's 176 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.480 uh, and that's the only way you're gonna be able to compete. It's 177 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.279 just lessen. We're gonna talk to uh, you know a later. Right. 178 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.039 I don't know how much it impacts her life, but I'm sure it 179 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.519 does because we've talked to every coach. Right, yeah, so far, 180 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:46.799 you know. I mean we had we had we oh, we had, 181 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.200 we had Delaney Schnell. Right. She said, yeah, she's gotten some 182 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.840 stuff. You know, she's got some endorsements and things like that. Yeah, 183 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:54.559 and she's a you know, a swimmer, right, Olympic sport, 184 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:58.480 right. I mean it's not a minor sport to her, but it's not 185 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.360 football and it's not basket sure yet there there, there you go, there's 186 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.600 a you know, an Olympic athlete who's getting stuff. Well, at the 187 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:07.360 beginning of all this, I thought it was gonna be like that, like 188 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:13.440 she Okay, she's this fantastic diver, this swimmer, and she'll get whatever 189 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.480 endorsement, Who give me a swimming product or whatever? She's not getting on 190 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.320 some kind of nutrition. Okay, the involves that. And then they went 191 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.240 after their own stuff and they were able to get paid. But now it's 192 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.279 like, well, the school's got to be involved kind of really, well, 193 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:30.720 you got these collectives got to hand out money right in some form to 194 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:33.120 keep it. Okay, they're gonna hand it. You're gonna give me x 195 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.360 amount, and all I gotta do is go to a couple of community events 196 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.480 and I get paid two hundred dollars. Yeah. Well, and I thought 197 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:43.240 it was gonna be like, you know, Dolora going out and and slinging 198 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.279 of football, and now, hey, this is my football, the Delora 199 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:48.879 football. More of the each individual going out and chasing their own stuff. 200 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:54.639 But it's beyond that. I would love to sit out with a Jade Delora 201 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.679 A maybe not as Zulus, but you know, I don't know whoever comes 202 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.919 up, you know, as you know Kylin Boswell, Yeah, you know, 203 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.919 I'm there was a he posted something on social media gave me the impression 204 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:11.159 that he's he's endorsing, like, uh, some sort of a closing line. 205 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.919 You know, I'd like to get somebody like that. It's okay, 206 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:18.039 what are you? Please tell me what you're getting. I'd like to know 207 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.399 how much you're worth, so that we have some context. We have no 208 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.679 context on any of this. You know, you hear that Caleb Williams at 209 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:31.639 USC is getting seven figures. You know why you worry about the NFL? 210 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.840 Yeah, exactly, And That's what I'm saying. You know, so I 211 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:41.559 we have no context to any of this. You know, we're guessing, 212 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:46.600 and it's NAT's what's driving people crazy. And you know people make comments like 213 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:52.960 that when they don't know of the story. Yeah right, I mean most 214 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.159 of what's happening. They don't know what's happening. We have no idea. 215 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:00.879 Where's before it was like, okay, you know, we know Lewis Holmes 216 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.919 got a you know, a brand new Hummer where you know, where did 217 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:09.919 he get that from? But you know, you think of now where it's 218 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.639 you know, so many people were getting stuff. How do you keep up 219 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:15.840 with all? Yeah, and you don't and and how do you getting motivated? 220 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.799 We talked about all this before, so it was just a new world. 221 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.720 We're gonna talk to UH coach of Laura Ardello hearing about five to six 222 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:24.480 minutes, and then we're gonna have John Fino on the other side. We'll 223 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.519 talk more about this because his son plays right, he plays at UCLA, 224 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.919 right, but we're gonna talk mostly about the draft. We want to talk 225 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:33.159 to him about the draft out being a first round draft pick. I want 226 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.480 to know did he know he was gonna run that kind of stuff. All 227 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:39.159 right, let's go and take our break. We'll be back, Arizona Women's 228 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.679 golf coach Laura And now it will be with us. 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Subscribe 285 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.599 now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio while just surgery. I on the 286 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:12.839 Ball. Hey, welcome back to our on the Ball here on Fox Sports 287 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:17.200 fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jagon's ols. Now on the phone, 288 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:21.400 we have Laura Iml, the Arizona women's golf coach. Coach, how 289 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:25.480 are you? I'm good, Thanks for having me. We always talk to 290 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:27.799 you at this time of year. You're we have a great success rate at 291 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:32.400 this time of year. Again, you guys did well in the in the 292 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:37.440 tournament we did. We just got home from the Pact twelve Championship up in 293 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.559 Phoenix, UM, this last week, and we're getting ready for the Ncuba 294 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.039 regional next week. So do you do you do you have any idea do 295 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:48.119 you get a sense going in that Okay, we're playing well, we're not 296 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.079 playing well because you know, I mean, all the so many of the 297 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.119 teams are really good in the Pac twelve. Well, what are you guys 298 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:59.519 say? I was gonna say and ask her about momentum? Yeah, okay, 299 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:00.880 hey, because but you know, all of a sudden, you know 300 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:04.480 you're you're playing really well you're finishing the top four, you get you get 301 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:08.160 to go to the regionals. But when do you know that things are going 302 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.880 to go well? Maybe even for an entire week. You can always kind 303 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:18.240 of tell, I think the mindset of your team the week leading up to 304 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:22.359 a tournament. You know, you get a vibe at practice to see how 305 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.480 everybody's feeling. Are they confident, are they in a good mindset? Is 306 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.440 their technique on point? So I would say, like we kind of can 307 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:34.880 tell the momentum into a tournament the week before. But again, it's golf 308 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:38.599 and anything can happen. You could be hitting it, you know, not 309 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.759 great, but then come out two days later and win a tournament, right 310 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:45.680 right, No, that's the question. That's why I asked a momentum. 311 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:49.160 Jay believes in it. I kind of don't, because it's how you play 312 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.839 that day. Especially in golf. You could hit the hecku ever on Thursday, 313 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.799 come back and not hit it on Friday, and do the opposite on 314 00:20:56.839 --> 00:20:59.400 Saturday. For Saturday, it's every day is a season. To me, 315 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.720 It's true golf. Golf is that way, and I think so much of 316 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:10.759 female sports and women in general. Women can play good, they have to 317 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:14.799 feel good, you know where I don't think that is as important with men. 318 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:18.319 Yeah, well that's an interesting comment. So tell me what you mean. 319 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.039 What do you mean by that? I like, I feel like I've 320 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:22.880 got a dress good to play good. We Steve and I have that argument 321 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.160 all the time, Right, what are the uniform? Right? You play 322 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:27.960 better? But you know when you said there's got to be a feel what 323 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.599 tell me a little bit more about what you mean by that. Well, 324 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:34.559 I just I just think, you know, women that we are emotional creatures. 325 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.599 And I think if if everything in our life is going well, where 326 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:42.000 we feel good, we feel in control, and the relationships in our life 327 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.880 are going well, and maybe schools going well, if we feel good, 328 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:51.480 that will lead to us playing good where I feel like, you know, 329 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:55.440 men they are not as emotional creatures at leak from my experience, and so 330 00:21:55.599 --> 00:22:02.279 you guys can deflect relationship issues or you know, school and really just like, 331 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:06.279 um, you have to play good to feel good. Does that make 332 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:07.880 sense? No, that's that's funny. Used to say that because I I, 333 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.559 who have coached both, you know, in high school, coach both 334 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:15.559 boys and girls. You're right, I mean coaching girls was different because of 335 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.640 all those things that you talked about. Do I need to pay you fifty 336 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:23.640 dollars from that? From that that analyst, Blue Cross, blue shield. 337 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.519 You can just But that's great because it's true. I'm hoping my relationship will 338 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.519 take so so. Coach. So you go in on on Monday of the 339 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:36.519 Pac twelve Championships, You're in second place. You shoot minus six. Obviously 340 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:41.000 you felt good. You're tied for first. Uh you know on Thursday, 341 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:44.440 I mean, things we're going just the way you wanted them too. Now 342 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:48.240 you ended up in fourth place, but you're coming out of it. I 343 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:52.000 mean, where were you what were you shooting for? Uh? Realistically going 344 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.480 into the tournament and you know, is that about where you ended up? 345 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.880 Yeah? Well, we we had struggled the previous weeks before conference. The 346 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:06.559 energy on the team was low. I felt like we had we had not 347 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:10.559 a good vibe on the team. I feel like everybody just didn't seem super 348 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:14.720 motivated. We had a great team meeting before Pac twelves and just try to 349 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.839 remind the ladies of like, you know, their wise and you know, 350 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:21.119 why are they here? Why do they want to compete? The Arizona standard 351 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.720 is to win and to be mindful of that and to remember, you know, 352 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:29.799 what are our goals? And so I think that week before Pac twelve, 353 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.799 I knew we are I knew we were the caliber of team to go 354 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.119 in to have a chance to win because I know we're that good. And 355 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.720 then when we put ourselves in position to win, I was really excited because 356 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.440 I really believed in this team and that they can win, and they could 357 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:49.200 win. The last round, you know, the conditions got a little tough 358 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:52.799 and we just didn't execute, and we had some some minor airs, a 359 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.880 lot of three puts, and we weren't hitting the ball close enough to the 360 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.680 hole to where we could convert the birdies. So, um, hats off 361 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:04.200 the USC and they played some tremendous golf that final round and it took the 362 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:08.559 title. But but overall this this is a very good women's golf team and 363 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:14.319 I have I have known that this entire year, even with the high finishes 364 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:18.279 and the low finishes, Um, we we've definitely got what it takes. 365 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.640 Yeah, in fact, you played well, it doesn't um uh. You 366 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:26.240 know you play well, you play well, but the other teams played well 367 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.079 too, so you know, your success doesn't necessarily mean that you can win 368 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:33.519 at all, because if they play well well, their chances just as good. 369 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:38.880 You know what I'm saying, You have no control over them. Yeah, 370 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.720 and the PAC twelve is deep. You know, you're looking at the 371 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:47.000 some of the best teams in the country with Stanford USC, Oregon USC la 372 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:49.880 um. Uh, I mean it's we are we were I think we went 373 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:55.079 in to the conference to a su the conference. We were sixteed, you 374 00:24:55.079 --> 00:25:00.200 know, so, um, that's how competitive the conference is. Well and 375 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.279 then and so you know, finishing fourth, you had to feel pretty darn 376 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.759 good about that, right, I mean we not really. I mean I 377 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.559 would say that since we were in the opportunity to have a chance to win, 378 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.799 we wanted to have that chance to win. I mean, I think 379 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.200 anytime you finish in the top five with the Pact World Championship, you're pretty 380 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.400 happy. But I mean we were. We were happy with the finish, 381 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:26.319 but I mean we definitely would have preferred to have won. So so what 382 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.000 do you do for for two weeks now? You know, because this this 383 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.960 tournament was last week. The regionals aren't till May the eighth, so you 384 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:37.039 know, are they taking a break? You're getting away recharging how do you 385 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.400 what do you do with this couple of weeks before you start regionals. Yeah, 386 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.079 we we gave the ladies this last weekend off. We had practice on 387 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:52.000 Friday, we had practice this morning. Golf is not a game that you 388 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.599 can take too much time off because you don't want to lose your field, 389 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:59.960 but definitely given a couple of days here and there off with finals, final 390 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:06.200 dams coming up because we play the Nuba regional during finals. We so just 391 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.960 trying to make sure that the ladies are confident, caught up in school and 392 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:11.640 but no, we just keep doing what we're doing, practicing, you know, 393 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:17.079 five days a week and you know, fifteen hours working together playing on 394 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:21.759 the golf courses, working on technique and drills and doing everything we need to 395 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:26.200 be confident going into regional. Okay, let's let's talk about something else real 396 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.319 quick. We've been talking about this all week and last week in the last 397 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.839 few months. And Il you've been here a while now, right, you 398 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.480 want a title not too long ago? How has the world changed athletically at 399 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:45.240 your place involving women's golf, women's golf, you're seeing the elite female athletes, 400 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:49.759 you know, like the women like rose bangs and the top American girls 401 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.240 like Rachel Heck, they are the ones that are I think committing pretty good 402 00:26:53.240 --> 00:27:00.079 and il deals with clubmakers like Callaway or Titlists. And but as for like, 403 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:06.759 um, just the normal average female golfer n il is is not too 404 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.359 apparent in our world right now. I think that will change in time. 405 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:15.160 But um, you know pretty much you can get paid to play now. 406 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.279 You know, everything that was illegal two years ago is now legal. You 407 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:23.640 know, these these kids are making big money in big checks. I don't 408 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:30.079 really envy the basketball and football world because they're they're the ones that are really 409 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.720 dealing with it, might say more than us, but but it's coming for 410 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.279 sure. Do you do you like it? Do you not like it? 411 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.240 Or does it not matter whether you like it or not? You just gotta 412 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:44.279 deal with it. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of it, 413 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:49.240 just because I feel like the wealthier schools are, especially with football and basketball, 414 00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.960 are going to have an advantage in the end. But but again it's 415 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.519 it's the way of the world. Like these programs, these universities are making 416 00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.279 so much money off of these student athletes that it does make sense though that 417 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:04.599 they should get a stipend from that, so it's it's hit or miss. 418 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.640 But it's definitely changed the world of athletics. So let's kind of maybe I'll 419 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:12.680 go back and forth with you. Uh in golf a few how many years 420 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.440 ago was it that you won the title? It doesn't seem that long ago. 421 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:22.000 For okay, five years ago. Did you come up with some great 422 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.480 speech you guys had a great run or do you give those or how would 423 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:32.160 you give those a steep before we Yeah, yeah, you don't like one 424 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.599 of those Rockney type of things. Or do you look at say, this 425 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.480 is tennis, this is right? Does that come into playing golf? Individual 426 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.880 sports? But not really because you're still a team. Oh no, yeah, 427 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:47.720 you definitely have team pow wows before everybody teas off. And I mean 428 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.880 you definitely got to get together and like seize the day and seize the opportunity 429 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:56.119 and and let those those team members know that you're there for them as coaches, 430 00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:57.400 that you believe in them, and that they need to play hard for 431 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:03.160 each other. And um you know, really, team team get together before 432 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.240 those type of events. They're just as apparent in golf as it is in 433 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:11.319 football or any more. Um I guess athletic sport interesting interest. So give 434 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.200 us a little bit of a rundown of you know, who's who's been key 435 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.599 for you this year? Um, you know how and what you're expecting, 436 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.000 you know, with with some of your players, I mean, who's got 437 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.640 a shot to go out and you know do something really special? Uh? 438 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.440 In the NC double as well, we have um, two girls that got 439 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:36.599 All Pac twelve is Gilai Bita Starku from Lithuania and then I have Carolina Malgratti 440 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:41.799 from Italy who also just played in the Augusta National women vamitter. So, 441 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.440 um, those two ladies are definitely leading the team. I have a star 442 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.920 freshman from Kansas, Um, Julia Meismer. She's a um five foot ten, 443 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.759 hits the ball a long way, very strong, you know. So 444 00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.359 we've got we've got a lot of Um. We've got two the freshman, 445 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:03.480 two sophomores in one team year. So we're young and these ladies are are 446 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.240 competitive. It's fun to watch. Okay, I'm i'm I'm looking at your 447 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.240 roster and I see the Carolina is five foot one. Am I she gonna 448 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.920 embarrass me if I go out there and you know she hits it a mile 449 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.640 and you know she's eighty yards ahead of me. I mean, tell me 450 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:23.279 about her and how she plays. What kind of a player is she? 451 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.960 She's a little she's a little uh, she's a mixture of mighty mouse and 452 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.759 then I don't know what other cartoon is like the little the mouse with the 453 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:41.839 sombrero that's always running around like she is um fiery, she hits the ball 454 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:47.119 a long way. She's a she's definitely a presence on the golf course. 455 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:52.799 Her her with her Italian accent, and but she's tremendous, she really is. 456 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.720 Is there a difference between the international players and the United States players in 457 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.440 terms of how they think about the game or just mentality about the sport. 458 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.640 I would say that the international student athletes there, they come in a little 459 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.200 bit more seasoned, a little bit more mature. I think overseas they're used 460 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:17.799 to traveling over the world, where I think most of our domestic student athletes 461 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:22.799 are strictly really probably only used to traveling within the United States. So the 462 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:29.920 international kids are definitely more well rounded and worldly and experienced different types of cultures 463 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:37.400 compared to the Americans. Would would appreciating things be part of that. I 464 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.079 don't necessarily think that in regard, but they just have a different view of 465 00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:48.319 the world. Yeah, in what way politically? Just overall? Yeah, 466 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:55.400 I just think the just understanding the different differences between you know, the French 467 00:31:55.519 --> 00:32:00.400 culture compared to Italian, or the Russian compared to the Lithuanian or you know, 468 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.680 or Thailand compared to Taiwan. I just think that they're they're more knowledgeable 469 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:10.200 of the world rather than just being I guess, more knowledgeable of just the 470 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.279 United datis right. It makes sense. So as a coach, I mean, 471 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:16.680 obviously you put a team together, you find out who's good players, 472 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:22.200 But how much actual instructing goes on with the players? Are you just help 473 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:27.640 them fix things or are you teaching them how to play better golf? I 474 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.759 guess as the way I would put that, it's a mixture. We are 475 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:35.559 a maintenance crew, you know. I think got coach Justin Bubster, my 476 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.240 assistant coach. He's a PGA pro and he definitely helps with the technical work. 477 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:44.240 We both worked with them on short game technique. All of my ladies 478 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:50.640 have their own instructors and we work very closely with them on monitoring these players 479 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.839 games and having good communication. But but then there's some days where we know 480 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.880 we just we let them practice and we let them work on what they need 481 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.079 to work on. It's it's it's a holistic approach. It's it's natural where 482 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:06.559 some ladies need more maintenance where some, you know, don't. You're right, 483 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.200 right, and I would assume that you're a coach that kind of coaches 484 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:14.640 to the individual. Now you don't just have this blanket coaching style. Does 485 00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.200 that make sense? Right? Yeah? How does that work? Or I'm 486 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.359 sure that's just why you've done it all your life. Well, I mean 487 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:27.759 I've been coached for fifteen years now. So every year when freshmen come in, 488 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.599 you kind of just slowly learn what does this player you know want and 489 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:37.359 need to be successful, you know, from the coaching staff and from themselves. 490 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.440 Because some ladies might only require, you know, twenty hours a week 491 00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.440 for practice, where you've got other girls like, you know, like Hayley 492 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.640 Moore. Haley Moore needed thirty hours of practice, So you need to make 493 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:52.920 sure that she had that availability to her to where she could get confidence by 494 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:58.799 getting what she needed in because everybody was Golf is so different. Yeah, 495 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.599 Okay, well thanks coach. Good luck to you or the rest of the 496 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:06.039 way. Well, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it. 497 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:07.599 Thank you. Yeah, that's the luck. At the regionals. We'll keep 498 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:10.960 an eye on you, so go get them, all right, Well, 499 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.960 we'll see you hopefully on TV. It's the national championship, all right. 500 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.440 Thanks a much. Thanks by guy from Laura, you know, from you. 501 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.119 You know, I just the thought of getting on a tea box with 502 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:28.119 somebody who's five foot one, whether it's a male or female, and watch 503 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.760 him just swap one out there. You want her a partner and me, 504 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.039 yeah, me just go. You know, I'm just not even gonna Hittner. 505 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.400 Bring him, bring him, bring him in for a scramble. But 506 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:39.320 you know, I you know, somebody asked me, asked me a question. 507 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.320 Well, I know we need to go to break, but they I 508 00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.920 gottask, do you you know how much women's golf do you think men watch? 509 00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:50.079 And and I thought, you know, that's a good question. And 510 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.639 to me, their game is closer to my game than the man. I 511 00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:59.360 can't do what royal Yeah, right, is a change game. But now 512 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.800 that's even and even their games are I mean, they're really good. I 513 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.119 got to play in the women's progam here several years ago, and it was 514 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:08.719 it was a golfer. She was, you know, not one of the 515 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.400 top golfers. And I'm she's really good. No, you know, even 516 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.639 the ones that aren't good a right, are really good. And I but 517 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.599 I watch I watched lot, I watch a lot of it. But because 518 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.320 it's gotten so much better, yeah, I have it. You couldn't tell. 519 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:23.880 I couldn't tell your name. I used to cover in Dallas with all 520 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.119 these girls and they were they were the ones that came through maybe fifteen twenty 521 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.199 years ago, and I was I knew her when she was fifteen or twelve 522 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.559 or whatever. Look at them and then but they come through a lot, 523 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.519 they're really really Yeah, it's just some believable way different. It's not like 524 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:42.000 three or four great ones. And then everybody else there's a lot of and 525 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.039 the international players some kind of taking over, haven't they They have, But 526 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.559 there's a ton of really good, really good players out there. All right, 527 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:51.760 let's go and take our next break. We're gonna come back and we'll 528 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.280 look, we'll kick some things around. We'd love to hear from you and 529 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.440 your thoughts on you know, what's going on with n I Ellen, are 530 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.599 you gonna do anything about it? Right? All right, so we'll be 531 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:14.599 right back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been 532 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.320 successful for newly forty years. Now. Take a look back at the Ludolson 533 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.000 era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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They will go 583 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:01.719 back to why in the ball here? Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, 584 00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.079 He's Jay. We have about twelve minutes if you just want to call 585 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:07.960 for five two four one six seventy four forty. Give us your thoughts on 586 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:12.760 nil. If you had a magic one, how would you solve the problem? 587 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:20.000 Hit the lottery? Maybe Arizona needs to hit the lottery. They do, 588 00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.159 they do, they do but there's so many things, Jay, and 589 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:27.039 I know you're you're you're alum. You you donate money, and you give 590 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:29.840 money to the problem, you buy tickets. Uh, that's all part of 591 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.480 it. I don't I'm not I'm not an alum. I'm a media guy. 592 00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:38.159 I am trying to help buy certain areas. But but if you want 593 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:42.360 to help help, well, you know. And and the thing is, 594 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:47.159 look, there's already enough pressure on fans and boosters and whatnot to you know, 595 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.679 put money into the program to keep up correct, right to correct. 596 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:57.679 And you know, over the years Arizona has had, for lack of a 597 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.079 better word than me, I hope they people. This is just you know, 598 00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:06.119 sugar daddies. You know certain people that have contributed to the program. 599 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:12.119 You know, the the davis Is who built the you know the uh whose 600 00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:17.880 name is on the football Stevens, the Stevens, the facility, um of 601 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.119 Jenny Clemens who built you know, the academic center, and uh, you 602 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.880 know all of those people. UM, tell me, tell me where you're 603 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:28.480 going this. I think I know where you're going. Those people seem to 604 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.719 have always been around. Yeah, we've we as fans have always leaned on 605 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.360 that to come up with the big money when you needed to come up with 606 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.199 the big money, whether it was to build something or fire a coach. 607 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.719 Right, let me say this. I came up. I heard a term 608 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.400 this morning that I thought, it's fantastic. There's donor fatigue. Yes, 609 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.960 donor fatigues. That's where I'm going. And the will is gonna shorten up 610 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.599 and drive. It's gonna make mead right. And in Tucson is not Los 611 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.840 Angeles. It's not even Tuscaloosa as it relates to that, because in Tuscaloosa 612 00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.800 and at Alabama or at in bad and Rouge, at LSU or State, 613 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.840 or at Athens Georgia or Ohio State or Michigan, you know, there's a 614 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:15.639 there's there's a long history of fans giving everything they've got to those programs. 615 00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.800 She's on Arizona is not that just on Arizona. You know, people love 616 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.400 their Arizona football, they love the Arizona basketball, but not to the point 617 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:28.119 where they're going to give up the kind of money that fans and in and 618 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:32.440 Arbor and Columbus to do to that level. And uh yeah, you know, 619 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.639 and you feel like now because you've had all these boosters who give hundreds 620 00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.280 of millions of dollars, and we've always been saying, well, you know, 621 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:44.920 they'll get it something right. Now, it's like those of us who 622 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.360 can only do one hundred or a thousand or you know whatever in a year. 623 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.199 There's a lot of pressure on those fans now, and to your point, 624 00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:58.800 those are the ones that complain the most. Right. You know, 625 00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:02.280 as I say, empty barrels make the most noise, right, do do 626 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.559 the davis Is who built the you know, the football facility. Are they 627 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:13.400 bitching as much as you know that guy who's on Facebook who's just you know, 628 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:16.440 typing something up on his phone maybe maybe their own way, but not 629 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:21.239 publicly like or they're going yeah, or they they have an open door to 630 00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:22.719 you know, to go to into Jet Fish is obviously, look, you 631 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:27.039 know you gotta do something, you know or whatever, or to go to 632 00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.960 Tommy White and say, you know, you gotta get better players, but 633 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:36.119 you know it's you. I think there's more pressure on the average fan now 634 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:40.440 sure to participate in this, because if you're not, they are into Tuscaloosa, 635 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.360 Sure they are in at Clemson, Sure they are at at LSU, 636 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:52.159 they are at Ohio State. And if we don't hear. Well, guess 637 00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.920 what you'll be. You'll be uh, you'll be uh the Colorado States, 638 00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:00.000 you'll be the new Mexico's and uh, and you'll get what you get. 639 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:01.639 You get what you get, which is unfortunately right, but it is. 640 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:05.960 But you know what, that's still of course, I mean, come on, 641 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.320 we live in that world. We live in that world. Yeah, 642 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:12.800 it's crazy. The expectation will still be sure, be competitive, win some 643 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:17.079 championships, yeah, particularly in football and basketball, even though your hunt maybe 644 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:22.000 tens of millions of nine hundreds of millions behind these other schools. So I'll 645 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.519 make this public because it happened to me last weekend. I tell you somebody. 646 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.320 I got into it somebody last week and I made the point was we 647 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.440 have all these people complaining and the worst thing that happened was this was their 648 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:35.440 number, their title in ninety seven, right, and they hang on that, 649 00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.039 and and our callers have been calling it's happened so long ago. They're 650 00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:42.400 kind of agreeing me. They have the one title. So they entitled the 651 00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.519 Bitch about It and complain and how come this? How come that? And 652 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.360 one of the guys, I guess he's a Facebook frian I really don't know. 653 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:51.519 He says, well, Steve, he gave me some big exploitations. 654 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.480 And by the way, if they hadn't won that, no one would know 655 00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:59.159 who the hell you are talking about with me, I says, in my 656 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:00.599 mind, I'm thinking that's kind of a good point. But then I said, 657 00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:04.960 you would not be known as I waited a while and I said, 658 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.880 well, I guess better to be known than unknown, right, because okay, 659 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.639 yeah, okay, here we are this years later, this years later. 660 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.239 Now I don't know if he's trying to help solve the issue or try 661 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:20.360 to donate or whatever. But everybody has an answer, right, but they 662 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.400 don't have the questions. Yeah, well they don't have the answers either. 663 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:29.039 Why did they throw stuff out? They have the questions like that email that 664 00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.000 you're at, Why isn't it Why is an Arizona doing better? Why did 665 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:35.079 they lose a guy to Alabama? Why did they lose a guy to Gonzaga. 666 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.639 They have all kinds of questions, yeah, but no answers. Well, 667 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.000 and they what they answered, or they think they have answers that aren't 668 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.800 answer you know, I mean, they're just well, that's it right there. 669 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:47.239 They think they have the answers, and they don't. Yeah, um, 670 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.880 and they're not on the inside. You don't know. I don't know. 671 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.320 We know what we know, but it's not always the right answer. 672 00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:58.360 Yeah, and and and until there's some sort of which I don't think there 673 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.840 will ever be some sort of a rule or something that says all this has 674 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:07.079 to be transparent. I mean, you know, we can't go ask a 675 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.880 kid how much do you make? Right? We could, but we can 676 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:15.280 ask, but we shouldn't have the right to know. People want the right 677 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:17.239 to know. Not everybody has not every question has an answer. Yeah, 678 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.199 people want the right to know all these things. They want took the right 679 00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:24.880 to know. Why did x X go to Alabama? You know what did 680 00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:28.400 he get? People say, I want to know that. Well, you 681 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.639 don't get to know that, right. It's funny. I was at the 682 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.800 doctor last weekend and didn't know him the first time. Going says, so, 683 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.159 why are we losing all these players this doc? When was the last 684 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.000 time you gave to the to the program? You start laughing, and he 685 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.320 says, a good point. Yeah, there you go. We gotta call 686 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:50.039 we gotta call higher on the army on the ball. Hey, guys, 687 00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.480 how you doing from the trip. Howard, you made this, you survived 688 00:46:53.559 --> 00:47:01.119 South Dakota someone totally right. But um, as far as basketball goes, 689 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:04.440 I don't. In football they stay two to three years, right, if 690 00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.880 they go hardship, do they get to get to leave after two years? 691 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:13.039 Is how it is? Foot football? No, it's an age. It's 692 00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:17.760 an age requirement. And people, well people don't know is that the NBA 693 00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:22.119 thing is also an age requirement. You know, so if you're if you've 694 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:23.880 been held back a couple of years, and you know, in school, 695 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:28.400 and you're a senior in high school and you're twenty years old, you can 696 00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:31.679 go to the NBA. Right, Yeah, I think they should move it 697 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.880 twenty one or two years in college. I think they unlike some idiot like 698 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:43.880 coach k because he had so many one duns, he said there should be 699 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.760 no one and done. Yeah, you see such an idiot. Okay, 700 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:52.079 oh wait, I'm I'm wrong. I am wrong. In the NFL, 701 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:57.000 it is it is, it's two years. It's not an age requirement. 702 00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.920 Yeah, it says what it says. To be honestable for the NFL Draft, 703 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.079 a player must have been out of high school for at least three years 704 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:09.239 and must have used up their college eligibility. That doesn't seem right. So 705 00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:13.000 what's your point, Howard? What are you calling about this? Okay, 706 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.199 Well, because they're in i L. That's why that's my point. Because 707 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.519 they're going through the transfer portal and all this, so they're spending way more 708 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:24.920 time in college within I L and transfer portal. Anyway, that's what I'm 709 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.280 that's my point I'm making. Okay, all right, did you miss us? 710 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.360 More? More important? More important? Hey, as far as I 711 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.840 want to have one comment on big idiot Draymond Green, there was an article 712 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:45.159 out. It's not so much we're all tired at least time of his act, 713 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.039 but this article, this guy wrote an article. I didn't read it. 714 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.199 He said, I'm sick of the apologists, the people that are apologizing 715 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:57.519 for him. That was it was an article as lead. I know you 716 00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.239 probably didn't get reception in North Dakota or wherever you were South Dakota. I 717 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.960 said when he was out for that one game, I said on the air 718 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.039 that they're better off without him. They played better, that's more fluid, 719 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:13.280 and they have less drama. Whether that and granted he's very talented and he 720 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.119 helps the team does he's a critical part of it. But there are days 721 00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.519 when they played better without him, and they did. He's on his Yeah, 722 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.119 he's on the downward of his career, and when he signs his contract, 723 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:29.400 the baggage, they're not gonna want it. And they won. They 724 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.960 won the championship last year despite of him. Everybody that knows basketball, they 725 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.719 said he did not have a good championship round. Well, I think it's 726 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.159 gonna be. It's gonna be the Lakers. No, no, no, 727 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.719 Golden State and your sons, right, if they advance, is that what 728 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:47.000 it is? Well, we have to beat We gotta beat up Denver first. 729 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:52.199 Okay, that's right, that's right, Yeah, okay, yeah, 730 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.119 yeah. So well I'm not I'm not watching the game the night, but 731 00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:58.599 very Denver game. I'll watch him, watch him. I just listened on 732 00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:00.559 the radio. Okay, I'll go to watch all the Denver games. That's 733 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.079 gonna be a good one. Thanks. We're gonna clock them. But you 734 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.159 guys, Golden State won't make it that far. They won't. They're getting 735 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:12.519 past don't lose. Don't lose to the Lakers. Even if they get by 736 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.599 Sacramento, they're not making it. That's I'm tired of winning dinners and wine 737 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:20.800 from you, so they're not gonna make it. I'll just say it. 738 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:27.119 We don't go back because period. Okay, we'll see how get by to 739 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:29.960 die. I can't even win any more stuff from one hours. Okay, 740 00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.559 to close the loop on that question. By the NFL draft, it says 741 00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:37.199 you must have been out of high school for at least three years and must 742 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.280 have used it up your college ealagability. But if you've not used up all 743 00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:44.920 your college salability, you can request uh the league's approval to get you to 744 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:47.960 answer the draft early. I've never heard of anybody after their three years to 745 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.199 be to request and not be allowed with the draft. Um bion, how 746 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.360 many years did he play? Three for? Yeah? So that's that's what 747 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:58.760 it is, right. Yeah, is not gonna say, Bijon, we 748 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:00.960 don't want you here. Of course, it's it's a man. They should 749 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.679 stay at least three it's a man's league, man, it is, that's 750 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.000 for their safety. Yeah, okay, Hi, first hour win value very 751 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:13.800 quickly. Hope to get some call a ready man, I'm glad you saw 752 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:20.840 the clock, all right? Yeah, yeah, I got there's some breaking 753 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.480 news and then we're gonna have John feen We're gonna talk about the NFL Draft 754 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:27.840 from the perspective of somebody who got drafted in the first round. Is it's 755 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.960 been thirty years ago for John, thirty one years for John. But um, 756 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:32.800 you know, well we'll talk him whatout, you know, what was 757 00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:36.199 that like? It's kind of like what's it like to get to the show, 758 00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.199 right, So we'll be right back and then we'll be breaking news and 759 00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:40.480 then John feenus stick around.