WEBVTT 1 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:42.359 Well, happy, Mark cass whether we Wednesday here, busy day, Welcome 2 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:46.280 to the first part of our double header today, should be exciting talking it's 3 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:50.560 CFL Week fifteen, and then lots of news on the XFL front. Another 4 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:54.240 merger here. I was just telling like, we've lived through this before and 5 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.280 nothing new. Here here we go again, Jim Carrey and that what was 6 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.200 that? Me and myself and Ireen or whatever? Here we go again. 7 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.359 I think that's going to be the theme for Friday. Should be excited here. 8 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.159 But first we are talking CFL. We have Jason and Evan here midweek. 9 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:11.319 Jason, how's your week going pretty good? I mean the weekend was 10 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.239 great. I'm really great week on a football on both sides of the border, 11 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.680 So I'm happy from that perspective in my week's going pretty well so far. 12 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:19.480 Evan, I know we have lots of other things. We'll get to 13 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:23.959 XFL here at four or forty five Pacific. How how's your life going here 14 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.560 CFL and otherwise? Yep, it's been a busy week, man, lots 15 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:33.239 of news coming out on so many different fronts. I think I've touched every 16 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:37.840 league this week to some capacity. But sticking to the x CFL. Excuse 17 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:41.680 me, kind of be careful there sticking to CFL with this st you know 18 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:46.159 obviously what the stream is about. You know, it was a great slate 19 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.760 of games over the weekend. I think I was pleasantly surprised. You know, 20 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:52.840 every game I felt like was really close. And this was the first 21 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:56.280 weekend in a long time where I was actually able to sit down and watch 22 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:00.680 you know, every game since it was equally divided up between day and Saturday. 23 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.400 So I worked out really well and I was very pleased with the football 24 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:07.239 was played. Yeah, and again you know late this week. I appreciate 25 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:09.240 everyone, but we've made the commitment. I'm feeling it's important to do this 26 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:12.800 every week on here. I had to work Saturday, Sunday, Monday, 27 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:15.719 Tuesday all day every day, so this is the first time we could do 28 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:19.400 it today. Evans got class. I appreciate it, you know, I 29 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.800 think it was Tuesday last week and Wednesday this week, but darn it, 30 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.599 we've made a commitment here. I had a great weekend at Commanders at two 31 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:29.680 and o two and oh here left hand up. I don't want to hear 32 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:34.000 any of that hating on that taking down Russell Wilson and then the BC alliance. 33 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.680 I really was about to Mariners got swept by the Dodgers at home. 34 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.360 BC. I thought was going to get you know, like I said, 35 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:45.520 you cannot lose into Ottawa at home. This is a must win. Looked 36 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:49.080 like they were going to until about the last few minutes. Jason, are 37 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:53.039 we after Labor Day games county more? Are you feeling like the CFL is 38 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:57.960 peaking at the right time? Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I just compare 39 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.879 it to the previous two seasons since we came back from COVID, and this 40 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:06.199 season has easily been way more exciting than twenty twenty two or twenty twenty one. 41 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.840 I just think we've had so many more close games and you know, 42 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:14.000 dramatic finishes down the stretch, and a lot more offense this year just in 43 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.560 general. So I think it's been great from that perspective. Yeah, Evan, 44 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.240 I feel like this is kind of what was promised online because we all 45 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.840 got into this obviously during the other merger talks, and you know, the 46 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:25.879 twenty twenty one season was a little sleepy. I think, in as much 47 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:30.280 as CFL apologists wanted to say, you know, hindsight, whatever, are 48 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.080 you feeling. You said, you sat down and enjoyed the whole slaty games 49 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.479 we had, you the dual dueling double headers. You feel like everything worked 50 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:38.039 out. Yeah, I mean, you know, I've talked a couple of 51 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:43.000 times of this season about how I feel like there were peaks and this was 52 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.560 the best football that we've seen since you know, CFL came back from COVID 53 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:51.000 and the canceled season in twenty twenty. I've been overall, Yeah, I've 54 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.120 been really impressed. I feel like in this third season back, you know, 55 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.120 teams are finally getting things together, and of course, you know, 56 00:03:57.159 --> 00:03:59.759 I think we still know who the top teams are and we still know who 57 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.319 the bottom teams are. You know, I don't know if that's changed too 58 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:05.560 much. Well, Toronto's I think definitely been surprised, but you know, 59 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:11.280 Winnipeg's still there and all that. So, you know, some things I 60 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.800 think have stayed the same. But ultimately, you know, there have been 61 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.920 a lot of surprises and there's been a lot of shakeups. You know, 62 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:19.879 a lot of the season, you know, even though there's only nine teams 63 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:24.399 in this league, a lot of it has been extremely unpredictable. Even for 64 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.680 I think people who have devoted you know, more time than myself to covering 65 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:31.240 this league and have been a fan for longer. So yeah, overall, 66 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.240 I've been very impressed, and I think, you know, this is we 67 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:40.600 are sort of peaking again, like this season has been the best since COVID, 68 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:44.399 and I don't think it's necessarily close. Yeah, so let's get into 69 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.240 this. So, you know, I'm looking at the CNNs here obviously, 70 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.560 and I was filming. I was filming. I do work for a elderly 71 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:56.199 service provider. They do, like they do transportation and meals and housing and 72 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:59.040 all that. So they have this game on and they were going to do 73 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:02.079 they like cornhole and you could do like giant you know, Chess and Jenga, 74 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.600 and they had bands and stuff, and you know, I think they 75 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:08.360 probably expected, you know, a few hundreds of people to come, and 76 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.639 there was maybe fifty people there, so, needless to say, by about 77 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:15.040 the third the fourth hour of this event, I had a little time on 78 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.800 my hands. I had my phone mounted to my camera walking around turned on 79 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.879 because I'm kind of tracking the score for the first little bit of this Winnipeg 80 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.879 Hamilton game. And then I'm like, what the heck is going on. 81 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.360 You know, I turned it on. I guess we'll get to that game, 82 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.800 you know, in full. But but it had so many ramifications leading 83 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:38.079 into this BC game. Jason, did you think that the BC was going 84 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.639 to take advantage of kind of the Winnipeg loss. I mean, it really 85 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:45.160 did seem my kind of a weird outing for BC. Yeah. I mean 86 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.639 they just kind of, you know, saved their chance there. I think, 87 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:51.759 uh, what do you call it? Like, you know, it 88 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:56.360 didn't look like they were going to take advantage of that until those final few 89 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.759 minutes where Audible really just gave the game away to BC to give the BC 90 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:02.639 credit as well. But I mean, at the same time, it looked 91 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.519 like the Lions did their best to try to give this game away through three 92 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:11.279 quarters, and then ultimately they turned it on in the fourth and h B 93 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.279 scored. BC scored twenty three. You see that right down the screen, 94 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.240 twenty three fourth quarter points. Yeah, you're not gonna win many games if 95 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:20.360 you're oddwa if you do that. Yeah, Vernon, here a little bit 96 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:23.279 of a messy game three and three. Evan, Like I said, I 97 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:28.240 started watching this game after the Winnipeg literally turned it off kind of in disgust 98 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.560 and then had it back onto the bar kind of seeing that, you know, 99 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:31.879 the final three and a half four minutes and that when did you make 100 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:36.040 of this game overall? Yeah? Well, you know, very rarely do 101 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:42.480 I turn off a game, you know early. I always like to ride 102 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.480 things out, you know, stick it through. But I just had a 103 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.399 gut feeling this game was over when Ottawa had that picks six. I think 104 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:54.120 Vernon, if I remember correctly, had an interception and then I think you 105 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:58.120 threw another one and ended up being a pick six. And after that, 106 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.000 I was just like, you know what, I think this game's over. 107 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.560 And usually I'm right. Usually I whenever I turn a game off that feels 108 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.079 two out of reach, I have been correct in the team who was leading 109 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:12.120 wins. But this was a rare exception where BC just had some sort of 110 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.959 fire in the fourth quarter and they said, you know what, Hamilton, 111 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:21.240 you know, blessed us in a way with their you know win over Winnipeg, 112 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:26.079 and now we're in a position here to to really you know, make 113 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:30.600 things interesting late with the standings. So they really took advantage of that, 114 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.279 you know, and hats off to BC, you know, forgetting it done. 115 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.160 At the end. But I think really that the main storyline coming from 116 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:41.160 this game is it's another Ottawa collapse. We've seen this happen so many times 117 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:45.000 where they just can't finish, you know, and it's unfortunate. Bob Dice, 118 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:46.480 you know, who's a coach, been in the CFL for a long 119 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:50.519 time, somebody that I very much respect. But you just can't have that, 120 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:54.800 you know, you you just can't do that. And a loss like 121 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.759 that is a loss that will you know, it can cost you a job. 122 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.199 You know that that's a real red flag, I guess you would say 123 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:05.759 on the resume or on the slate. And it's not the first time that 124 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:07.959 you know, something like this has happened to Ottawa, but this was definitely, 125 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.279 I guess one of the ones that happened in more dramatic fashion. I 126 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.240 think we can all agree, uh, you know, BC pulling this out. 127 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.040 I don't know what the odds are, you know, I don't know 128 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.079 what the percentage was, you know, after Ottawa went up whatever it was 129 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.519 thirty seven to twenty or something. I don't know what the you know, 130 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.959 odds were that they were gonna win, but I have to imagine they were 131 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.159 pretty damn high. And you know, I was honestly stunned when you know, 132 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:35.279 I was. I had turned the game off by that point, I 133 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:37.320 was watching you know, college football by then I'd put on another game, 134 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.159 and you know, I was talking to Andy and he was like, yeah, 135 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.840 man, like BC's right back in it. You know, like they 136 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:48.399 the decision again, and this is not the first time there's been a specific 137 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:54.600 questionable coaching decision decision. Sorry, I can't speak today on behalf of Ottawa 138 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:58.639 and their coaching staff where they you know, they kicked that field goal the 139 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:03.480 fifty yard or I think it was, and you know, kicker misses and 140 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.440 then the ball is you know, returned all the way back for a touchdown 141 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.080 and is a coach. That's kind of like the ultimate face palm moment, 142 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.519 you know, And that was what, really, more than anything, spearheaded 143 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.960 the BC comeback. I think that was the point in the game where everybody 144 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.600 knew like, Okay, there really is a chance now, and ultimately they 145 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.600 went on to win it with the lucky Jackson are not lucky Jackson, lucky 146 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.799 whitehead excuse me, touchdown, you know, and that was that so very 147 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.480 surprising game. Definitely, I think more disappointing for Ottawa. You know, 148 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.200 if you're BC, you know, great comeback win, but you know that 149 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:41.159 the game shouldn't have been that close and you definitely escaped with one. But 150 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.080 yeah, honestly, I was just I was amazed that they were really able 151 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.519 to pull that off. And it says a lot about you know that that 152 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.600 teams I think, you know, culture and ability to win in tight moments. 153 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:54.639 BC has been you know, criticized more on the road, I guess 154 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.120 than at home this year when it comes to you know, certain games where 155 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.080 they just seem out of here character, you know, when you're not really 156 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.080 sure what to make of him. But I still believe this team, you 157 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.159 know, can't go to the Great Cup, and this game proved it to 158 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:09.159 me with the way that they played at the end. Yeah, I have 159 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.639 a couple of questions and obviously, like you know, my manute minute recollection 160 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:16.679 of all of this game is a little cached right now, especially after the 161 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.320 weekend and working then whatever, But you know, to have a couple of 162 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.879 like big picture of things, because the two takeaways from this was it really 163 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.480 feels like this is the first time that people are calling for Bob Dyce's head 164 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:30.679 here. You know it's calling, and like he's in the hot seat and 165 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.960 we've had discussions on here, and you know, he came in last year 166 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.000 and you've got no Missoli and you know he's trying to ripe the ship and 167 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.120 people gave him a lot of credit. I interviewed him in the off season 168 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.919 and the CFL media day and even this year, you're like, okay, 169 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.960 well you're you know, you're fighting through everything and you're losing Missoli and Arbuckle 170 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:50.879 didn't work out and Tyree Adams right in my right and that didn't work out. 171 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.879 Now we're onto this, uh this play. You know, Bob Dice 172 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.120 was a special teams coach, Like you know that that is kind of the 173 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.480 first one of this. But Jason, like are you It feels like the 174 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.360 tide has has shifted here where people now are kind of Antibob dies am I 175 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.840 missing? Was this before now? Or is this really where it's sorry to 176 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.679 come out? I think yeah, I think now there's starting to be some 177 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:16.240 heat under Bob DICE's seat in Ottawa. But I think the thing is when 178 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.120 you look at this, in the struggles that the Red Blacks have had, 179 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:24.519 they've had multiple general meagers, multiple head coaches, multiple starting quarterbacks during this 180 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:30.639 four year period where they've been just so bad. I mean, without being 181 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.320 that twenty two game home losing shriek, we would have been talking about Ottawa 182 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:39.799 since the beginning of this season and just you know the seasons struggle pad and 183 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.519 I mean does epic fails this season and failing to close games. They've been 184 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.279 a very competitive team for a lot of this season. But I think at 185 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:50.600 the end of the day, you know the game I went to Montreal and 186 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.879 Ottawa they had eleven point lead with four minutes left. They blew that one. 187 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.759 This one, There've been other games they've been in that they haven't been 188 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:00.559 able to clothes out as well. So they could have a much better record 189 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.960 than they have right now. And I mean, obviously they've had some bad 190 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.720 luck with the quarterback injuries, but you can look around the rest of the 191 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.360 league and say a lot of other teams have had bad luck as well. 192 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.960 So yeah, I think the Red Blacks the hot seat is heating up for 193 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.879 Bob Dice Jas. Let's see if your internet's peaky just a little bit. 194 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.080 Let's see if it catches up here, Evan, because That's that's the thing. 195 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.639 Like we deal a lot with this, and I especially like the USFL 196 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:28.360 or Well US and L and XFL. But you had a lot of like 197 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.320 Trull Buckley this last season, like, hey man, I had to build 198 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.720 a team from scratch, Like it was really hard. And you're like, 199 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.519 yeah, so I did every other head coach, Like this is not a 200 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.480 unique problem. And like Jason said, that's a great point. Obviously, 201 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:43.679 Ottaway has had the injury bug, especially at quarterback, but you know, 202 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.759 other teams have been able to navigate that. Evan, are you thoughts on 203 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.360 Bob Dyce? I know you said high on him, but do you feel 204 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.120 like kind of the walls are closing in on him a little bit? I 205 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:58.159 do, you know. And it's more because Ottawa has just struggled so much. 206 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.159 I feel like, you know, people might not be calling for his 207 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.120 head as much if Ottawa wasn't going through such an extended rebuilding period and maybe 208 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:09.120 had they won more before, you know, we wouldn't be sitting here right 209 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:13.399 now talking about his job being at risk. But again, football is a 210 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:16.399 winning business, you know, and that goes without saying. And Ottawa has 211 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.519 had their fair share of controversy to say the least, not just this season, 212 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.279 but over the past couple of seasons really, you know, since they've 213 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.279 returned again from that COVID year, there's just every year it just kind of 214 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.799 feels like a disappointment and I can't imagine. You know, I have again 215 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.120 a lot of respect for everybody in that building. I know they're all great 216 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:37.879 people, but when you don't win games, it's just harder to have a 217 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.879 happy atmosphere. And Ottawa, you know, again, there was a point 218 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.960 this season where everyone was really high on Ottawa. It looked like they could 219 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.679 go to the playoffs. You know, they could stunt everybody. That the 220 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.039 crumb sanity that we always talk about. Now all that is long gone, 221 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.879 you know, now it's back to I might have said it on the show 222 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.320 last week, but it's just kind of like you already feel like, you 223 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:01.559 know, you're getting ready for twenty twenty four. Yes, there's still a 224 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:05.600 couple of weeks to play in this season, but it almost feels like, 225 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.240 you know, the white flag has been waived. And that was really what 226 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.399 I felt like when I watched this game. You know, it was like 227 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.039 such a winnable moment. I mean, for a team like that to go 228 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.000 on the road and win against one of the top teams in your league, 229 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.240 that's not you know, in your division, is a really big deal. 230 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.559 You know that that was going to be a monumental win for Ottawa, And 231 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.799 to be honest, had they did pull that off and BC just kind of 232 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.480 stagnated in the fourth quarter, I would probably be, uh, you know, 233 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.519 talking about a completely different thing right now, I'd probably be saying, 234 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.799 you know what, Ottawa still has some firepower in them. You know that 235 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:41.440 they still have a drive and a motive, and I understand it. There's 236 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:46.159 good players there, you know, but right now, it just it feels 237 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.879 like there's still pieces missing to that puzzle. And I don't know, I 238 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.679 don't know if changes the right answer, because they've already had so much change, 239 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.840 and you know, you can only change a team around so much before 240 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:00.519 it just becomes a mess and it might not necessarily improve the same situation. 241 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:03.759 So we'll see what happens. You know, definitely a team to watch, 242 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.720 and again one of these teams where I'm really interested to see what they do 243 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.559 in the off season, particularly with you know, free agency and again, 244 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.080 you know, possible coaching changes. Who knows what happens with the front office. 245 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:18.159 There's a lot that goes on there when you don't win. But you 246 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.360 know, I agree the excuses, I think a kind of running out. 247 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.440 Yes, you know, you had a difficult season, You've lost some people 248 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.840 that you thought were going to, you know, turn things around. But 249 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:31.440 as a football team, you're supposed to win. You know, you're supposed 250 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:35.080 to find ways to win, and other teams have been able to do that. 251 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.320 I mean, you look at Hamilton. There was a point in this 252 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.879 season where it looked like they were going to throw in the towel as well 253 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.679 and just kind of move on in twenty twenty four. But I'll talk I'll 254 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.159 talk more about them later, but ultimately because again I've always thought that they 255 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.559 had better personnel and some better experience, Like they still have a lot of 256 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.279 concrete pieces there from the times that they were in the Great Cup, they 257 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.919 still had an opportunity to turn that around. And now it looks like they're 258 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:00.600 a playoff team. You know, they're coming off a huge win this weekend 259 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:04.240 against winnip You know, I thought that that was one of Hamilton's best games 260 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.360 of the season. And again we'll get into that in a minute, but 261 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.519 just bringing it back to Ottawa, it's you know, I understand things are 262 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.759 tough, but you know, football's a winning business and the CFL season, 263 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.840 in my opinion, is long enough to where you should be able to turn 264 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.600 it around if you are struggling, and unfortunately they have not been able to 265 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:23.879 do that so far. Yeah, I said, I like the I like 266 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.240 the Bob hiring. I know that there was a lot of you know, 267 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.759 he came in, and I like the idea of, you know, the 268 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.960 guy that was elevated that's kind of been able to write the ship as much 269 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.840 as they can during the season to get a full shot kind of the next 270 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:40.720 year. Okay, let's let's do that. Let's not hire in. I 271 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:44.039 saw a criticism and oh, you know, Bob Dice is a lazy choice 272 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:45.840 or that, but I don't know. I mean, I think you got 273 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.080 to give him this season. I think, like we said, he's had 274 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.559 a lot of different adversities to work through. My other question and we'll go, 275 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:56.240 Jason will see if how you're internet is or else, we can figure 276 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:00.039 that out. You know, the BC finally wake up here because I feel 277 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.159 like we've kind of been in the fog for about a month, and I 278 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:06.200 would just like it kind of felt like maybe they finally got their heading gear 279 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.160 and like, oh we are you know, because this was a gift. 280 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.079 You know, Winnipeg locy was a gift. Okay, let's get with you 281 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:14.519 know, at least get one be able to get one game on them. 282 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.160 You know, I'm watching the Mariners right now in the Al West, and 283 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:19.359 you know, you're hoping when the other team loses that you're going to be 284 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.319 able to capitalize that. I was very afraid that, Like I said, 285 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:29.640 I think the optics and now three and ten team be a beating you at 286 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:33.279 home, this unbeatable defense and doing that boys and Ryan Phillips and all that. 287 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.000 I think the publicity around that would have been quite bad. Do you 288 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:41.720 think BC finally woke up here there's such a weird team, because I think 289 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.920 they're a team that's capable, you know, beating any team in this league. 290 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.039 We saw them going in to Peg win convincingly. But they're also a 291 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.319 team that's capable, like god, you know what we saw this past weekend 292 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.039 a couple of weeks ago against Hamilton losing to any team in the league. 293 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.880 So I think at the end of the day, you know, BC, 294 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:03.440 They're just a strange game to try to figure out because they're never truly out 295 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.640 of a game, because they are capable of making a lot of big plays. 296 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:11.359 I mean, like Justin mckinnis had a massive game and this one he's 297 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.119 really like their fifth or sixth best receiver when all their guys are healthy, 298 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.960 and I mean, it really just shows you the depth of off fence. 299 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.960 And I mean, if Vernon Adams can avoid the turnovers that he had in 300 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.680 this one, because I think that's the only thing that really kept this game 301 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:29.400 close and really gave Audible that lead. So I think at the end of 302 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:34.400 the day, if Vernon could avoid those turnovers which have plagued this season this 303 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:40.000 year, I think this team is right in the thick of things up to 304 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:41.559 get first place in the West. And I mean that's a huge game up 305 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.519 in a few weeks. Evan, it has BC like, do we just 306 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:48.559 not run the ball anymore? Here? Like if we just completely like if 307 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.240 we traded James Butler, like Vernon, we just throw it all over we 308 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.519 as long as he gets three hundre yards like we got Mizzelle here thirteen yards 309 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.000 rushing I mean Vernon scrambling. This isn't see to be looking at the stat 310 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.640 line. Well, you know, it's a couple of things. I mean, 311 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.599 I think losing James Butler in the offseason has proven to be a very 312 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.119 significant loss given what he's been able to do in Hamilton. And he's really 313 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.599 you know, carried a large person that offense throughout the season, or at 314 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:18.559 least up until you know, Taylor Powell has found his stride. But you 315 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.400 know, I think this game, uh, it was a bit different. 316 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:25.279 You know, typically when you're playing down that late in the game, you're 317 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:29.559 not going to be running the ball that much. You're going to rely on 318 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.680 the pass game and throw it more. You see this really in any you 319 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.839 know, level of football, whether it's NFL, college, anything like that. 320 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.839 So you know, it doesn't surprise me, especially because you know BC 321 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:44.079 has again, I mean, you know, their entire offense I feel like 322 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:48.039 has been a past first system for this entire season. You can't not throw 323 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:51.480 it given the receivers they have, you know, key On Hatcher, Alex 324 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:55.319 Hollins, all of our favorites. So yeah, I mean, you know, 325 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:59.680 you could maybe argue that Mizell should be getting a bit more work, 326 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:02.720 but in this game in particular, I just feel like, you know, 327 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.039 there was no point in running the ball, you know, when you're down. 328 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:08.839 You know, however, many points of seventeen or whatever, you know, 329 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:12.680 going into the fourth quarter. So it's something that's uff for debate, 330 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:15.279 but personally, I feel like, you know, they're fine doing what they're 331 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:18.720 doing, and obviously they were able to win the game, you know, 332 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:21.839 just kind of throwing it and then having that boost on special teams with the 333 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:26.400 return touchdown. I think that was all the funny tweets I had for this 334 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.920 Farhan was on the call. He you know, good for him and being 335 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.400 able to you know, be their live and call that. You know, 336 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.640 the nineteen point fourth quarter comeback the largest in BC Alliance history. Jason, 337 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.160 anything else on this one because I want to deep dive this Hamilton Winnipeg situation. 338 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.160 Anything else from you? H No, I think let's move on to 339 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.720 the next game. Okay, so we had here. Let me get out 340 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.000 of this all recent Like I said, I'm I'm filming the old folks get 341 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.640 together here listening to the Hamilton because I'm like texting the group chat, like 342 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.279 what the heck is going on. I'm tracking the score. I got my 343 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:03.880 my selfat score with ever going on here? You know, Winnipeg following to 344 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.440 Hamilton. Jason, were you at this game? And what was this like? 345 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.599 Unfortunately I had something to attend to that day, so I had to 346 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.400 watch it on TV. But I mean I was just as happy watching it 347 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.519 on TV as I would have been if I was there, because, I 348 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:19.839 mean, one of performance from the tie Cats totally unexpected. I mean, 349 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.319 something weird about Winnipeg playing in Hamilton's Zach Calaris is actually the last tie Cats 350 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.759 quarterback to lose to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers at all. That's been quite a 351 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.880 long time since Claire's played for the tie Cats, So I mean, just 352 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.359 something weird happens when Winnipeg travels to Hamilton. But as a fan, I'll 353 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:42.519 take it a three. Evan, what did you make of this one? 354 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:45.079 Jason, Let's see if we can get you logged off and log back in 355 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.480 here. Evan, Like I said, kind of, I just couldn't leave 356 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.079 this. I turned this on. It didn't you know? To me, 357 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:55.480 Winnipeg always kind of feels like, Okay, we can work our way way 358 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:56.839 back. We can work our way back. It really felt like this leads 359 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:02.160 to a safe even if the score was a little closer the end. Yeah, 360 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:04.640 this game was a surprise and I watched the full thing, and the 361 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:08.039 entire time I just kept telling myself, Winnipeg will find a way. You 362 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:11.119 know, they're gonna find a way. They're a winning team. This is 363 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.799 not a game that they can lose. It just didn't seem like, I 364 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.160 don't want to say, it didn't seem like a losable game for them. 365 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:18.799 But again, we've seen what they're capable of doing. They're one of those 366 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.559 teams where every time you think that they're gonna let something happen, they don't. 367 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.759 They come right back in it. There's a big play and they kind 368 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:29.680 of pull through. But Hamilton just kept going, you know, they kept 369 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.240 you know, finding things. I thought one of the most interesting plays that 370 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.480 game was I think it was a miss. It wasn't a missfield goal, 371 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.960 it was a missed extra point, and Entyreet mccaaluister returned it all the way 372 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:44.279 back for two points. I thought that was a very I guess you could 373 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:45.799 say pivotal play in the game, even though it was only worth two points 374 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:49.680 as opposed to six, But you know, things like that. Really just 375 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.079 you know, I feel like it was the little things in this game that 376 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.519 you know, killed Winnipeg in the long run. And I wouldn't say it 377 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.880 was an outstanding performance by Hamilton. I feel like it was you know, 378 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:02.279 I mean, obviously they didn't enough to win, but I don't feel like 379 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.880 it was anything. You know, it wasn't a blow your socks off type 380 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.519 of game. I mean, yes, they beat Winnipeg. Obviously that's a 381 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.599 big deal given you know, Winnipeg's past, and I think there is a 382 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.759 bit of maybe bad blood between those teams, given the two Gray Cups, 383 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:22.480 and I'm sure Hamilton is that they definitely feel probably disrespected, you know, 384 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.079 considering that Winnipeg beat them twice in the Gray Cup, and again one of 385 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:27.839 them was at home, so that makes it you know, that's a whole 386 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:34.160 nother thing. But yeah, you know, I was impressed by Hamilton and 387 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:37.480 this one and the fact that they were able to win this type of game 388 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:41.319 further proves my point that I made several weeks ago about how I thought that 389 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:45.000 this was going to be this surprise playoff team, because again, it all 390 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:49.119 comes down to you know, experience, and again I mean, I think 391 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.839 it goes without saying Hamilton's roster. While they might not have performed well at 392 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.440 all points throughout the season, it's been very up and down. I feel 393 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:03.480 like they just have so many different dynamic playmakers like they have on paper, 394 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.480 one of the stronger rosters in the league. And again that's why I still 395 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.640 viewed them as one of the top teams going into this season. There were 396 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:11.599 a couple, you know, things to be concerned about, and I think 397 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:17.079 some of those issues were amplified throughout the season. But Hamilton's rolling right now. 398 00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:18.720 You know, I feel like they're in a really good spot. I 399 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:23.000 feel like they're confident and you know, maybe they maybe there's some chance some 400 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.119 way, And I'm not saying this is gonna happen, but hey, you 401 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.039 know, Gray Cup's gonna be in Hamilton. We're all gonna be there. 402 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.599 It would be really cool to see that team at home and the Gray Cup. 403 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:34.319 Again. I know Jason for one, would would probably enjoy that. 404 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.240 But again, there's no guarantees. You know, again, I'm not gonna 405 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.839 I'm not gonna make any predictions like that, but ultimately, I like what 406 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.880 they're doing right now, and you know, I want to say this was 407 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.480 the most surprising game of the week, but I think the next game that 408 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:52.640 we're gonna get to Saskatchewan Edmonton might have surprised me a bit more. Yeah, 409 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.240 I love this, And you know, if if Taylor Powell gets the 410 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.200 High Cats here to the playoffs, And it was kind of the same thing 411 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.200 where we had Air and Rogers go down for the Jets and everyone's like, 412 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:04.119 well, you know if they make it to the playoffs, like you know, 413 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:07.319 Air Wilson's gin. It's like if Zach Wilson gets the Jets to the 414 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.920 playoffs, like Zach Wilson's probably going to be played in the playoffs, Like 415 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:12.960 if you know, if by God's will Taylor Powell here you know, gets 416 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.480 the tie Cats saying like I don't know how you bring real rusty ass of 417 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.960 bow back after eighteen whatever weeks, like a right bo get in here, 418 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:23.000 Like, Jason, what did you make of this? Because you know, 419 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.480 Taylor Prowl had a pretty pedestrian game here. I mean, all things consider, 420 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:32.119 obviously Winnipeg and the interceptions they're d really taking over. We talked about 421 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.160 the miss field goal or the miss extra point that for you know, first 422 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:37.759 of my godly reason, there's only two points going the other way, which 423 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.440 I don't understand. What did you make? What did you attribute Hamilton's victory 424 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.359 too well? I think there's certain things and elements of this tie Cats team 425 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:49.359 that are coming together over the last month or so, the connection and chemistry 426 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:53.359 between Taylor Powell and Tim White. Tim White over the last month has been 427 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.960 arguably the best receiver in the CFL. We saw that last year where he 428 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.200 had a slow first half of the season and really turned it on. So 429 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.720 that's good to see. I think they've had a commitment to the run that 430 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.960 they have not shown over the last several years. You know, when they 431 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.640 had Tommy Condell as the offensive coordinator, They've really committed to the run and 432 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.519 James Butler. Even though James Butler I think average under four yards per gary 433 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.920 in this one, they committed to him, gave him like twenty two carries. 434 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.759 I think it was, so that's good to see. I think, 435 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.119 you know, they had really good commitment to stopping the run in this one. 436 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.119 Brady olivera who was really just chewing everybody up in the running game throughout 437 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.079 this season, has you was kind of shut down in this one, So 438 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.480 that was really good to see from the tie Cats. I think there's elements 439 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.559 of this team that have improved steadily the last several weeks, and you know, 440 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.319 they're peaking at the right time. And the Tiecats, it's worth noting 441 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.720 they've always kind of been a second half of the season type of team. 442 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.160 I think there was one year where they were like one and seven and they 443 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.599 finished nine and nine. I forget what year exactly that was sometime in the 444 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.880 last ten years, but they've been a second half of the season type of 445 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.279 team before. So baby, I shouldn't be surprised, but given how Polly 446 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.559 the first half of this season went, I definitely was not expecting this, 447 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:08.720 especially the victories against Winnipeg and BC a couple of weeks ago. Well, 448 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:12.640 I mean, and I know that like never I'm just looking at the standing 449 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.359 jail, like if you had told me that it's a three game swinging between 450 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:19.960 the tie Cat season and the and the VC Lion season, Like I feel 451 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.759 like Hamilton's and we we're poo pooing every week and though you know, the 452 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.559 end of the world and welfare checks on Jason, and then you look here 453 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:32.039 like VC's got three more wins, Like it's like it's really not that big. 454 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.920 I mean, all things considered here and I know the divisions and all 455 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.839 of that they're playing, but it does feel interesting. I had a tweet 456 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:42.400 here a friend of the show, Rod Peterson, who just I guess Plug 457 00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:47.559 will be on the Rod Show this Friday, coming up talking and I gotta 458 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.319 get the XFL guy on again. We got XFL news. But Rod is 459 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.119 staying the good times are over for the Bombers. I like this hashhake for 460 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.960 the l Evan Like, you know, Bombers, this has been the least 461 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.039 dominant season we've lived through them. And I mean, obviously they're still kicking 462 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.440 the crowd out of many teams, but I kind of a different world. 463 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.880 What do you make in the Winnipeg Well, I don't know if the good 464 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:08.880 times are over, you know, I think once we get to the playoffs, 465 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.759 we might see a different level of aggression from this team. And hell, 466 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.559 I mean we've we've already seen a good chunk of aggression from them at 467 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.279 times this season. I mean, look at the I guess it was Banjo 468 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.599 Bull against Saskatchewan, you know, fifty one to six, Like they came 469 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.720 out there and you know, destroyed that team. We all know that they're 470 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.480 still capable of doing that, but there has been several times this season where 471 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.200 Winnipeg has looked you know, I guess you would say uncharacteristic. I don't 472 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.119 think they're as complete as they were on the previous you know, great Cup 473 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.759 runs. And again doesn't mean they're a bad team. I still feel like 474 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.119 they could easily, you know, go back and we might be seeing them 475 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.359 in November in Hamilton. I don't think that's out of the question at all. 476 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.240 But it's you know, they have lost a couple of games where you 477 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.079 do scratch your head and you wonder, like, you know, will they 478 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:56.200 let this happen when it really matters. You could say that about a couple 479 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.359 other teams too, like BC I think will be even more interesting when it 480 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:06.400 comes time for playoffs. But yeah, I mean Winnipeg right now, you 481 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.400 know, I feel like that there's still some questions and you know again that 482 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.319 there's there's no denying. There's never there's no denying. Like you're gonna get 483 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.880 some people that say, well, the dynasty's over. You know, Toronto 484 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.200 will win again, and you know that that's very I I feel like if 485 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.240 Toronto does win this Great Cup, you know, if you're Winnipeg, you 486 00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.200 do have some bigger questions to answer in the offseason than maybe you anticipated. 487 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.559 But right now, I know they've had a couple of losses, and I 488 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:36.480 know this game again was a surprise to a lot of people. But you 489 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.079 know it's not. It's not the end of the world, right Like it 490 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.519 was just it was one of those days. And as Jason pointed out before, 491 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.640 when Winnipeg travels to Hamilton, it seems that weird things just happened, 492 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.960 you know, and specifically for Calaros, I think weird things happen too. 493 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.960 So I don't know. I you know that that can be debated, but 494 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.920 me personally, I think Winnipeg is gonna be fine. I feel like I 495 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:00.920 kind of have like a trust factor here, and you know, I feel 496 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:06.279 like if if the Toronto Argonauts were a person, I have ultimate trust, 497 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:07.680 Like you can watch my house while we're out of town, you know, 498 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.400 take care of our dogs. Like I have total faith in that year ten 499 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.359 out of ten, Winnipeg is right there. Like I have zero faith in 500 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.119 the BC Lions right now, Like I wouldn't you know, I would pay 501 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.440 the BC Lions to stay away. I have zero trust in them. Uh, 502 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:26.440 but you know, just like I just feel like we're last year Winnipeg, 503 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.440 there was just so many more like this is a guaranteed win, and 504 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.039 the games that Winnipeg has dropped has been kind of surprised in this year. 505 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:34.920 Jason, what do you think, what is your trust factor of Winnipeg here? 506 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:41.119 Well, I do still trust them because I think a weird thing that 507 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.400 I've realized what I looked at there. Like, you know, the last 508 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:48.359 couple of years, they've played worse against the East than they have against the 509 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:49.960 West. It seems like they really bring it. With the exception of the 510 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.279 Labor Day game this year and that a game earlier this year against BC, 511 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.559 you know, they've been pretty dominant against West Division opponents, which are ultimately 512 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.960 the ones you're gonna have to go through to get to the Great Cups. 513 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.759 So I feel pretty confident. If BC and Winnipeg play in the playoffs this 514 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.559 year, I would probably be taking Winnipeg. Even if maybe it was in 515 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.880 BC place, I probably would still go with Winnipeg. But I think at 516 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.160 the end of the day, you know, there are some cracks in this 517 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.000 team. That have not been shown over the past couple of years. You 518 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.920 know, they're giving up a lot of big plays on defense. They've had 519 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.559 some pretty poor performances on defense this year that we haven't seen the last couple 520 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.680 of years, So I mean that's concerning from that perspective. Zach Clariss has 521 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:36.000 I believeteen or fifteen interceptions on the year, so that's pretty high. Had 522 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.920 three of them in this one that was really huge for the Tycats and getting 523 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.920 to win. So I think there definitely are some issues with the Bombers this 524 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:45.680 year that we haven't seen in the past. But I think, you know, 525 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.519 there's still one of the teams that, you know, I would just 526 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.279 put them right behind Toronto right now as the second best team in the league. 527 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.519 Still. Yeah, spoiler alert. Like whatever a home field advantage BC 528 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.480 has, like being inside in the dove whatever, it's like pretty beneficial on 529 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.200 the boat. I think Winnipeg's home field advantage. I'm like, we're used 530 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.680 to playing in the frozen tundra and you're not, like our water bottles are 531 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.000 frozen on the side of the sidelines, Like I think that, you know, 532 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.000 even if it was at BC plays like I don't I think it's a 533 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.839 Washington. I think Winnebeg has a home field advantage. I think anyone kind 534 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.400 of comes in there. Evan other thoughts on this? I had a you 535 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:27.279 know, where was my tweet here about you know, Sergio Castillo missing again. 536 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.039 He's a friend of the show, been on right former, he was 537 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.720 in the XFL and you know Chris and Mark Leggio is real. Then letting 538 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.079 him go. I'll be curious. I have Derek Taylor, a voice of 539 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:38.519 the Bombers, coming on this week on the BI, curious to get his 540 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.559 thoughts. I kind of discollapse that. Evan, any other thoughts on this 541 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.640 and anything else on the game, I don't think so. I'm really interested 542 00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.759 to talk about this next game between Edmonton and Saskatchewan. Had a lot of 543 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.920 takeaways from that one. All right, Jason, anything else from me, 544 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:58.000 we'll go on. Oh yeah, let's move on. All right. So 545 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.039 we have here Evan chomping at the bit to talk Edmonton Elks. This is 546 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:06.519 Scatchean rough Riders. This has to be at least the most point to Edmonton's 547 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.680 put on the entire season. I'll give Evan the four here. You seem 548 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:13.039 excited for this one. Yeah, Well, you know, I'm excited for 549 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.759 this one because you know, I've started to notice something that I think is 550 00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:20.920 really positive for Edmonton and I haven't pointed it out on the show yet, 551 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.119 but we talked at the top of the show about, you know, how 552 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:29.000 Ottawa has been unable to close games. You know, Edmonton now has had 553 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.039 a couple big fourth quarter rallies, and I feel like in this one it 554 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:37.960 really stood out, you know, just I you know, Edmonton now, 555 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.599 I think I projected them, you know, having maybe three wins this season, 556 00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.359 and with this game, they were able to surpass that. And you 557 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.000 know, keep in mind there's still you know whatever five six weeks left in 558 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.000 the season, so they could very well win a couple more. I haven't 559 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.720 looked at their schedule, haven't looked that far forward yet, but there were 560 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.000 a lot of positives in this game from the Edmonton side of things. And 561 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.240 the other really big takeaway on that side of the ball for the Elks that 562 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:07.039 I had, you know, Kevin brown Man, he has really become the 563 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:12.159 saving grace for this season. We've talked about Trey Forward at nauseum. You 564 00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.239 know, We've talked about Gino Lewis you know, and what he was hoping 565 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.480 to bring to that team, you know, being one of the top receivers 566 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.199 in the league. But Kevin Brown has absolutely exploded. And if I'm not 567 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.239 mistaken, I believe he's second in the CFL and rushing yards right now behind 568 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.440 Brady olivera in Winnipeg. So yeah, Kevin Brown, man, hats off 569 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.199 to you. It's, you know, what a fun player to watch and 570 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.719 really someone who you know has been leading i'd say the offense. I mean, 571 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:42.320 he had more rushing yards than Trey Ford had passing yards in this game. 572 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.559 And now I just you know, I feel like I've been watching him 573 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.840 the past couple of weeks and you know, he's doing all these really good 574 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.320 things, but we haven't been given him enough credit. Maybe it's because it's 575 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.880 Edmonton. You know, it's not necessarily a winning team. We're still focused 576 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:58.840 on some of the drama and struggles that they've had before. They've been able 577 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:00.960 to win a couple of games year in the second half of the season, 578 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.880 but a lot of improvement, you know, a lot of improvement across the 579 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.039 board, and Edmonton you know, continues to impress, which is not something 580 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:14.000 I thought I would be saying, especially after all the mid season you know 581 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.920 shift between Victor Quee, I thought, you know, they still might not 582 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.400 be at a point where they're winning right now. But fortunately they've been able 583 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.719 to turn some things around again under the guidance of Trey Ford. And that 584 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:29.679 continued against Saskatchewan in Regina, which was really surprising to me. I thought 585 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.719 that Saskatchewan would would win that game, and they do it, you know, 586 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.440 by a decent margin, but I guess not, you know, and 587 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.039 Saskatchewan now, you know that they're I don't want to say they're on a 588 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.320 bit of a slump, but you know that whole ever since you know that 589 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:51.000 Banjo Bull loss where they got decimated by Winnipeg, I feel like they're still 590 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.360 recovering from that a bit. And you know, they didn't play poorly in 591 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:57.360 this game. There was a lot, uh you know about this game that 592 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.920 I thought, you know, things things still looked all right. Really. 593 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.480 One of my main takeaways too, not necessarily about this game, but about 594 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:09.079 Saskatchewan is there was something brought up on the TSN broadcast. I forget which 595 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.400 game it was, but it was about you know, looking at you know, 596 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.119 quarterbacks for next year. Uh you know what some of the top options 597 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:20.920 might be. And you know, Drew Brown was brought up in Winnipeg. 598 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.880 Obviously he's played a bit this season and in place of Zach Colaros. But 599 00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.039 the guy that I can't stop thinking about here is Jake Dela Galla and the 600 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.599 impression that he's made over the past couple of weeks. You know, obviously 601 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.639 Mason Fine gets hurt. You're going to Dela Galla. No one's really sure 602 00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.079 what's gonna happen. He's kind of an unproven guy, but he's coming and 603 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:40.559 he's been really impressive, you know, a week after week and even in 604 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:45.559 this loss, still had three touchdown passes. You know, I really wonder 605 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.559 because I think Trevor Harris will come back to Saskatchewan next year, and that 606 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.880 kind of, you know, begs the question, you know, is Jake 607 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.519 Dela Galla gonna stay and take that reserve role behind a veteran guy, or 608 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.400 you know, is he ready now to kind of you know, go on 609 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.400 to another team, find a new opportunity and you know, start for a 610 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.239 quarterback needy team, wherever that may be. Obviously, I think there'll be 611 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.039 a couple of teams that you know, could be in that position if they 612 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.480 don't feel confident about who's there now. So I feel like jackdol Gala could 613 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.159 definitely challenge a couple guys at this point, and he'll be an interesting name 614 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:23.000 to watch going forward into twenty twenty four. You're talking here, you know 615 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.719 Edmonton, and he said, all you know, looking at their schedule ahead 616 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.760 and whatever, I'll tell you next week BC at Edmonton, I would not 617 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:35.159 be surprised at all of Edmonton beats BC atoll. I'm like, at all, 618 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.880 Like I completely think responsible Jason thoughts on that BC here going into Edmonton, 619 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.559 I I gu said, my faith on BC is about a negative point 620 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.400 five. Yeah, I think the way with that Edmonton is playing right now, 621 00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.000 they could beat almost any team in the CFL. I mean they have 622 00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.239 such you know, unique formula right now in terms, you know, running 623 00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.800 the ball. They're averaging almost two hundred yards games since pray Board took over 624 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.320 as the starting quarterback, which are basically just like video game or college football 625 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.440 like numbers, and that's just really impressive. And I mean it's hard to 626 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:13.599 consistently win like that in the CFL. Right now, it's working, and 627 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.480 I mean it comes to the Elks in their hopes of making the playoffs. 628 00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:20.719 I mean, I just don't see a way that they get in because of 629 00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.400 that tiebreaker that they lost to Saskatch One. I think back to that twelve 630 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:28.239 to eleven game earlier this season with the one you know, with that game, 631 00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.400 the way that Edmonton tiebreaker. Right now in one game behind Saskatch one. 632 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.360 So I mean, if they just had one less loss right now, 633 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.360 they'd be riding the thick of things. But I think ten losses, it's 634 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:43.960 just a little bit too far behind to catch up unless they somehow run the 635 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.440 table here. Yeah, I you know, playoffs or not. I still 636 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:52.119 they're gonna make I've really messy here. And I mean I'll tell you I'm 637 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.599 tracking the Mariners here, and you know we you know, at the time, 638 00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.320 I think we were in second in the division going in the key Kansas 639 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.880 City. Who is he bounces between the worst or the second the worst team 640 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.800 in the in the you know the league. Uh. I mean they ran 641 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.280 us the extra Indians every night, and maybe you know, hey, like 642 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.719 we we love playing spoiler here and you know, we're still professionals and we 643 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.880 got a lot to do. Like I just like if I'm BC, you 644 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:20.119 cannot go into that game sleep blocking here at this point, like we need 645 00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:24.239 to keep up whatever was was found in this comeback. Yeah, who would 646 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.760 have thought, like the comeback victory against the Ottawa and Dustin Crumb like united 647 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.039 you can you need to kind of keep that going. Evan similar I questioned 648 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:37.639 you about else here against BC as as we're looking forward, Well, you 649 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:42.519 know, you can't rule it out. I would say maybe it's upset alert, 650 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:47.360 especially you know after that again tremendously close game the BC played against you 651 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:52.639 know, Ottawa. I do feel like BC is a bit overconfident sometimes and 652 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.199 I think that's been the reason to blame on a lot of their losses this 653 00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.800 season. And I know you've brought up read like Rick Campbell, the way 654 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.840 that he kind of goes about him self and and sort of handling you know, 655 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.920 the team in those situations where they lose a lot of it. I 656 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.679 know you said, uh, you know, talking about like move on to 657 00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:09.679 the next game or whatever, and you want them to sort of reflect on 658 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.000 things and think about it. But I don't know, I feel like, 659 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.400 you know, we don't need that much negativity, right, Like you need 660 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:21.280 to think about it to think about it. Hey, man, I get 661 00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.159 it. Look, I understand, you know, there are some frustrations in 662 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:28.039 BC. You know, is far from perfect. They definitely have slowed down 663 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.480 a bit, I think, in the second half of the season compared to 664 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.000 their hot start. But I will say, you know, BC, again, 665 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:36.760 despite everything that's gone on with them, I still feel like they are 666 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.719 an extremely strong team. And again, it's one of those situations where you 667 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.199 look at experience and personnel and the combination of those two. I feel like 668 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.000 BC if they do lose this game against Edmonton, which I'm not going to 669 00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.000 rule it out, I feel like there's a chance for anything to happen. 670 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.519 If they were to lose that game to Edmonton, I would start to question 671 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.960 some of the things I have said. But I think for now, I 672 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.559 think for now, yes, even with the Ottawa game, even with a 673 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.159 couple of games before that that we're really close and we're you know, what 674 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:07.440 you could call an excusable losses, I still feel like this team is in 675 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.920 a prime position to go into Edmonton and hey, maybe go beat them by 676 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:14.239 thirty. You know who knows? Right, Like Edmonton as much credit as 677 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.199 we've given them, you know, I don't think it's going to take much 678 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:21.960 to find their weak spot or their soft spot, and you know, then 679 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.800 they could just go back to the way things have been or the way things 680 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.880 were at the beginning of the season. So you know, it goes both 681 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.320 ways, right, And I feel like every game, you know, there's 682 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:35.639 no guarantees, especially in a league like this where you know, teams are 683 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.719 meeting each other so many times during the season and it's so long. I 684 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.760 mean, you have an opportunity, you know, to really beat everybody. 685 00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.599 It's not like the NFL, where you know you're not playing every team, 686 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.719 uh, you know, every season, So you know that that's something to 687 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:53.880 keep in mind. I think, you know, I understand, you know, 688 00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:59.039 there is some worry about BC, and again they're another team where if 689 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:00.920 they don't get it done this here, you know, do you think about 690 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.280 maybe making some significant adjustments. I mean mean personally, I like what they 691 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.440 have. I don't think you change anything even if they do, you know, 692 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.119 if they don't advance to the Great Cup this year, but you certainly 693 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:16.039 have to consider it. Right, They've been so so close now for what 694 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.840 feels like a while, and you just watch them this season and there's times 695 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.800 where you think they can do it, and there's other times where you feel 696 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:25.880 like they're still right at the edge, and you know if they if there's 697 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:30.760 one little thing that goes off, then then maybe that could just derail things. 698 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:32.400 Because I will say one of the things with BC two my last point 699 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.000 about this, which is a bit random, but I'll point it out anyway, 700 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.840 Like I noticed this against Ottawa and it happened like in the Toronto game 701 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.800 too. You know that was a long time ago now, but you know, 702 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.519 BC, at least on offense, like or especially with Vernon, it 703 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:53.239 seems like sometimes you know, they make a mistake and then they just can't 704 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:55.840 really get over it. You know, Vernon, it's like if he throws 705 00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:00.440 an interception, well you're know he's gonna throw two more after that, because 706 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:04.519 I think he sometimes struggles to get over that hurdle and whether that's just you 707 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.760 know, just mental or just not you know, recognizing the certain things, 708 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.840 not moving off to play quick enough and you know, making decisions because your 709 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.400 mind's note in the right place. Like I don't know, I'm not in 710 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.400 his head. And again he's still a very good quarterback. That's nothing against 711 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:20.239 Vernon. I just think. You know, that's something that I've noticed in 712 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.760 a couple of games where BC's lost, where it's like they have one little 713 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:27.559 mistake where you know it's not gonna end the game or anything, and you 714 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.360 can easily move off that, get the ball back, go score a touchdown. 715 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.880 But then suddenly everyone goes in the panic mode and it's like, okay, 716 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.239 like we have to start making all these adjustments, and I'm like, 717 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:37.719 you just gotta, you know, keep it together, stay collected. I 718 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.760 think if they, you know, just stayed true to that a bit and 719 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.960 kind of road things out, you know, like I've seen other teams where 720 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:46.480 it's like they make a mistake, but then they just, you know, 721 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:52.559 they don't they just keep going, you know, they don't think about that, 722 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:53.440 and it takes them a bit of times, you know, get back 723 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:57.159 into things. But those teams, you know what, we'll find ways to 724 00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.800 make a game competitive, and even if they don't always win, you know, 725 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.159 those are still some of the better teams in the league. So I 726 00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:05.119 know that's a lot. I know that's a bit of a tangent and definitely 727 00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:07.719 some weird niches in there everything that I've just explained, But I feel like 728 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.519 That's all important, you know, because BC is one of these teams where 729 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.639 people are really eager to see what happens. And uh, they're again like, 730 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.800 you know, they're one of the best in the CFL. But are 731 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:21.840 they Winnipeg good? Are they Toronto good? We don't know, you know, 732 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.840 we gotta we gotta figure that out. So we'll see two questions here. 733 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.800 I'll ask Jason kind of back to back and I hate you know, 734 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:30.800 and then we're talking a lot of BC. But you know, we're kind 735 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.199 of midweek here and we're you know, we'll hit the last game and we'll 736 00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.440 get out of here. You know, I was talking with obviously, we 737 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.400 had some of the BC social team down here last week. I'm going to 738 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.119 the Mariner game and we're talking and you know, I can't wait for Great 739 00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.519 Cup next year and oh my god, it's going to be so exciting and 740 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.199 whatever, and like I just I, you know, every team kind of 741 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:51.880 has a window right that they're going to win them. You know, I 742 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.599 know a Buffalo Bills right is is you know your NFL team, I think, 743 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.639 and like very yeah there, I mean, their their window is very 744 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.559 shrinking right now, and they're their win that might have already shrunk, but 745 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:04.079 like, yeah, you have the work thing and then you have Vernon. 746 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.679 Like it's not like Vernon's the problem, right, It's not like the receivers 747 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.039 of the problem, like the defense some of the time, Like what do 748 00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.599 you attribute Like if they don't make it this year, what do they do 749 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.000 going in the next year, like to be in to host like the game 750 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:21.159 is going to be there? Like I just I don't know how you extend 751 00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.440 this window more than what they're doing, except just Winnipeg is that much better. 752 00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:29.400 I think that the running game is a big, you know, separating 753 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.599 factor from them in Winnipeg. I think, you know, BC's I think 754 00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:36.039 the worst team in terms of running the ball this year. I guess that 755 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.360 Winnipeg is number one or right up there as the number one team running the 756 00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:44.920 balls. That's a massive problem between these two teams, especially if BC has 757 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.159 to go on the road in the playoffs to Winnipeg. That's just an element 758 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.360 that's completely missing from their game. I think as much as the CFL is 759 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:53.639 a passing league, I think you still do need to have that change up 760 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.960 element. And I mean, maybe you bring back James Butler. We're pretty 761 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.360 happy with him in Hamilton, but I think, you know, you know, 762 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:05.840 a guy like him, they really missing from this offense, and I 763 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:07.800 think, you know, that's something that BC just doesn't have right now. 764 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.480 And I mean I feel like, you know, sometimes they're just not you 765 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.880 know, awaked. A lot of these games there, they kind of played 766 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.199 down to their opponents. So I mean, it's gonna be very interesting to 767 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:24.039 see how they their season shakes out, because I think, excuse me, 768 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:28.639 I think that you know, they're right in the thick of it. They 769 00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.440 easily could make the Gray Cup this season, but I also could see them, 770 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.280 you know, getting blown out in the West Final. I think the 771 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.599 variance with them is very high. Like I just don't, you know, 772 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.880 I get that, like they're sleep blocking, you know, they're kind of 773 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:43.719 I'm like, well, I don't know what else you're wanting to do at 774 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.760 this point. Like I feel like, you know, you're in the CFL 775 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.559 and like, you know, the money's fine and it's not great, and 776 00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.400 we've had all, you know, the discussions that you know, axebl and 777 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.079 lot football, like you're there, like I always want to kick ass and 778 00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.800 take names, and like, I just don't understand some of these weeks, 779 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.440 Like you said, they show up and like I feel like I'm sitting there 780 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.719 and you know, I'm throwing my remote through the TV and I'm more passionate 781 00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:06.719 than it feels like. And I know that that's not the case, and 782 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.880 I'm given, you know, one percent of the effort that they're doing every 783 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.639 week. It just doesn't always translate it on the field that way. My 784 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.599 other question, Jason, then we'll get Evan's thoughts. You know, Chris 785 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.519 Jones, it was like fire. Chris Jones and I have this football database. 786 00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:22.760 It's just kind of interesting, like if you look, you know, 787 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:24.639 olivera obviously, like twelve hundred yards, we got you know, tach On 788 00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:29.000 miss l half the half the rushing yards you'll lead rusher here for BC. 789 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.039 People calling for Chris Jones's head earlier. I can't remember which guest I was 790 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.119 talking about on the podcast last week, but like, you know, Chris 791 00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:38.639 Jones could be like coach of the year now with the turnaround, Like, 792 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:40.880 Jason, what do you make of that? And then we'll get Evan's thoughts, 793 00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:45.880 like how Jones is doing now that we finally played tray forward. It's 794 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.760 so weird, Like I mean, as you said we had this conversation a 795 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.320 month ago. I'd be like everybody would have expected that Chris Jones would be 796 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:57.039 let go at the end of the season, but oddly in a I mean, 797 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.920 you know, the decision to not tray board for a long time could 798 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.119 be a reason to fire him, but also the fact that he drafted tray 799 00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.800 Foard the first place showed that he had faith in him in the first place. 800 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.239 And I mean, I just don't know what was going on earlier this 801 00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.000 year. I think they're, you know, a little bit you know, 802 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:19.199 committed to Cornelius because of that guaranteed portion of his contract next year. But 803 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.159 I think at the end of the day, you know, maybe with this 804 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.360 strong second half of the season, Chris Jones is going to be safe in 805 00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.480 terms of his head coaching job here in Edmonton, because I mean, you 806 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.920 know, I think it's kind of going in the right direction now. They've 807 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.280 kind of found a formula on how to win and you're starting to see a 808 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.320 lot of these pieces come together, and I feel like they're gonna be a 809 00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:45.800 very exciting team next year if we have the same nucleus together. Evans same 810 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:46.800 thoughts on that, and then we'll get to the last game. I mean, 811 00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:50.719 Jones is like, you know, we're talking, we're gussion over Edmonton. 812 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:52.480 Here, we're a couple of weeks ago. Well, I guess like 813 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.480 a month ago now certainly wasn't the case. Yeah, you know, it's 814 00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:00.039 it's mixed feelings. I mean, I think we've talked at NAGYM about you 815 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.199 know, Edmonton's turnaround and how staggering that this really is, you know, 816 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.599 in the second half of the season. I mean, it's two different teams, 817 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:08.400 you know. But the one thing that I can't get over, and 818 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.039 I'm not saying I'll say, well, I'll say this much. I think 819 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.079 Chris Jones job is safe now. I feel like at this point, you 820 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.039 know, it's just a lot easier to go into the offseason and build with 821 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.880 him knowing that you've now won a couple of games and there is actually something 822 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:28.960 there despite everything that happened earlier. But I just can't get over the fact 823 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.880 that for so long, you know, we said, like, you know, 824 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:35.840 the only thing that that team really needed to do was, you know, 825 00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.719 get Cornelius out of the lineup and insert forward instead. And you know, 826 00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:40.920 in the back of my mind, I always thought that there was maybe 827 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.000 a bit more than that, but there really wasn't you know. Once Trey 828 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:46.440 Forward came in, it was a completely different game. Again, it was 829 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.679 it was two different seasons, and it's just staggering to see, like it 830 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:55.320 was such a simple adjustment that wasn't made that early. And to be honest, 831 00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.320 I mean, I think, you know, maybe we all agree here, 832 00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:02.119 but had trey Ford started at the beginning of this season, Edmonton might 833 00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:06.000 be, you know, competing for certain spots in the West. I mean 834 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.280 they might be up there, you know, winning big games on a weekly 835 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:13.159 basis, and they would have you know, they would have never even got 836 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.159 to that you know, home losing streak record or whatever, because they probably 837 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:20.440 could have just taken care of that earlier. Again, it's just such a 838 00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.159 weird, such a weird kind of dynamic. And I think this is one 839 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:28.119 thing, regardless of you know, what happens to Edmonton here in the next 840 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:30.280 couple of weeks, this is one of the things that I will remember most 841 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:36.079 about the twenty twenty three CFL season was not having trey Ford play earlier. 842 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.920 Because again, like that's all it really took. They have not made any 843 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:43.159 major adjustments, Like yes, that there was a couple of things on the 844 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:47.400 coaching side, I suppose, but you know, like again I just can't 845 00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:52.079 believe that. Like we were sitting there, you know, literally calling for 846 00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:53.960 trey Ford's name, and then he started, and then it was like everything 847 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:58.199 was fixed. Everyone was happy again. And you know, I almost feel 848 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:00.719 bad for a guy like Vick your Qui, where the second he left the 849 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:05.800 organization everything started, you know, being great again. They won a home 850 00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:07.719 game, you know, they won other games. Trey Ford was the talk 851 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.800 of the town in the CFL and still is to a great extent, one 852 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.639 of those players where it's a new highlight every week, and you know, 853 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.960 just to not you know, do that earlier and to possibly cost your team 854 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.960 a spot in the playoffs. I mean, I think there's going to be 855 00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.960 people that, you know, go both directions when it comes to you know, 856 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:30.039 Chris Jones and where he stands, you know, like whether he should 857 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:31.360 be there next season or not. Again, I think he should be just 858 00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.400 because, like you know, if you get rid of him, that removes 859 00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.239 everything that you've built in the second half of this season. And I understand, 860 00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:44.880 you know, it's been it's been difficult, right and you can't forget 861 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.119 what happened, you know, for all those games, you know that they 862 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:50.599 lost at the beginning of the season where it looked hopeless. You can't forget 863 00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.079 about that. But you know, at the end of the day, like 864 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.440 if they, you know, get rid of Chris Jones, he wears so 865 00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.719 many hats, Like who else are you going to bring in to replace all 866 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.519 that? I don't think they can afford word really, to go through another 867 00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:04.599 rebuild. I mean, hell, it just seems like yesterday when you know 868 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.519 him Alizondo was the head coach, you know, and it was a completely 869 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.000 different team. But you know, to get rid of all that again, 870 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:13.119 I just don't think that's a good idea now that they've at least won a 871 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.559 couple of games. Was it didn't I have Stephen Dunbar on the podcast and 872 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:19.239 he was talking about like I love you know, I love Chris Jones, 873 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.159 and I love and the guys, because I say, like, was there 874 00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:22.119 ever, you know, was there ever any doubt of any of that? 875 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.480 I will think, you know, it's kind of like the Elks winning once 876 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.599 Victor Qui left. It's kind of like if you're like maybe like dating someone 877 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:32.800 and it's kind of wrong and then you break up and then maybe you end 878 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.280 up getting a new job or you move on with your life and do something 879 00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.000 good, Like was that you know, was that because of the past relationship 880 00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.639 or was it in spite of the past relationship? Kind of curious where that 881 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.280 goes. Let's get into this last game, because then we're gonna we'll flip 882 00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:46.960 the channel here, we'll start the new stream, we'll get on the XFL. 883 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.719 This probably at least surprising game, maybe just because it was close. 884 00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.920 I mean, alolettes here really seemed to be on the slide. Jason thoughts 885 00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.519 on this one. I mean Toronto comes in, takes care of business, 886 00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:01.679 and moves out. Well, I would argue this is the worst game that 887 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:06.800 Toronto's played the entire season to this point. Yet they still were able to 888 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.440 claw their way back and win it at the end of this game. And 889 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:13.639 I mean both teams had a sloppy first half. It was pretty low scoring. 890 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.440 But you know, Montreal in particular, really got it going in the 891 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.840 third quarter of this game. They had I think a seven point lead. 892 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:22.159 Late in the fourth quarter, Toronto was able to tie it up. They 893 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:27.639 had a situation where they were third and three from their own eight yard line 894 00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.000 and then Toronto went for it. They get a big pass interference call on 895 00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:36.960 Demonte Coxie and that springboards the game tying drive, and then the next drive 896 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:42.119 when it's already when it's tied up at twenty, Bajardal throws a killer interception 897 00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.840 and that leads to the game winning field goal for Toronto. But Montreal was 898 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:47.239 able to get the ball back with a little bit of time left, get 899 00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:52.079 into field goal position and they get their field goal blocked on the last play. 900 00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.000 So heartbreaker for the Alouettes. They let one slip away here, But 901 00:53:55.360 --> 00:54:00.159 I think Toronto it really shows even if they're not playing well, they can 902 00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.559 still win a lot of games in this league. Yeah, very reminiscent here. 903 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.119 Blatched field goal of a different, different Toronto black field goal player, 904 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.119 and it made a little bit more infamous when from my last year, the 905 00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:15.519 great cap Evan what's wrong with my friend Kedy Frigar? Though I don't know, 906 00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:20.360 you know, in this game, I'm not even a Montreal fan, 907 00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.920 but my heart kind of sank when he threw that interception on that you know 908 00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:28.119 what, that second to last drive. I watched that entire game and the 909 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.639 entire time I thought Montreal was gonna win. I said, this is their 910 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.880 chance. You know, Toronto they've won obviously, they win all the time, 911 00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.840 you know, but that game, like it just felt like the opportunity. 912 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.960 You know, they've played Toronto, like this was the third time that 913 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.360 they played Toronto the season, and they had an opportunity to take down one 914 00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:49.039 of the probably the best team in the CFL right now, arguably at home, 915 00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.320 you know, in Montreal, in front of their great fan base, 916 00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:55.360 and they couldn't do it, you know, and they were so close too, 917 00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:59.519 that that's the part that just really hurts, Like it. I again, 918 00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.159 I'm I'm not a Montreal fan. I'm not connected to that city in 919 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:05.920 any way. But with the second Fajardo, you know, through that pick, 920 00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.639 which was a really bad pick by the way, you know, I 921 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.000 just it was kind of like a face palm. I'm like, and that's 922 00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:14.800 your game. Yeah. I know, Montreal was able to get the ball 923 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:19.079 back and you know, obviously have an opportunity to tie. They weren't able 924 00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.639 to do that with the field goal block, but it really felt like, 925 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:24.960 you know, Figardo was just gonna drive down the field right there and put 926 00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.960 the game away with a touchdown and that was gonna be it. You know, 927 00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.440 Toronto wasn't even gonna have a chance, you know, to do any 928 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:32.960 of that, and there wasn't gonna be need for overtime or anything. But 929 00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:37.719 you know, it happens. It happens, and you know that. The 930 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:44.039 reality is it's just you know, I it's another week of you question you 931 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:46.639 know, Cody Fajardo and you know where he's at, and I mean, 932 00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:50.840 I, you know again, I still think, you know, there's a 933 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.880 lot of promise there. He hasn't looked terrible this season. But again, 934 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.559 Montreal, for like what feels like the millionth time, is unable to beat 935 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.800 somebody, you know, superior to them. And I understand Toronto's a tough 936 00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:06.920 task, but it was right there for the taking. It felt like Toronto 937 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:10.199 played so slowly that they were just giving Montreal these opportunities, and while they 938 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.280 took advantage of some of them, it wasn't enough, you know, And 939 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:15.119 that's all that really matters. At the end of the day. People are 940 00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.480 just gonna look at the final score and think, oh, well, you 941 00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.679 know, Montreal drops another one to a top opponent, and then we're right 942 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.559 back to our discussion last week about you know, where does this team stand 943 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.559 going into the playoffs and what is it going to look like them? Obviously 944 00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:32.119 going into the next season, they've already kind of their big period of adjustment 945 00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.599 happened last year. You know, they shifted a lot of things, including 946 00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.079 ownership. So I think they're just gonna stick with what they have now. 947 00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:43.000 But there's just gotta be some sort of mindset change, you know, some 948 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.000 I feel like this is a team, you know, a team that can't 949 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:50.239 beat people above them, that beats everybody below them, Like that's the definition 950 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.719 of content, right. It kind of just feels like they've stagnated, and 951 00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.159 it sucks because I thought this was again the game where Montreal was going to 952 00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.840 get over the hump and they were going to really you make a statement, 953 00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.960 especially again late in the season. You know you've played Toronto. I guess 954 00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.840 this was the third time they played each other. You want to close out 955 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.239 that, you know strong, and they just couldn't do it. They just 956 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:13.119 couldn't do it, And uh yeah, it's it is what it is. 957 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.840 I you know, there was a lot again, like they showed plenty of 958 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:20.199 promise in this game. Tyson Philpott, you know, who is one of 959 00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.079 the greater stories coming into the league Canadian. I believe, you know, 960 00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.280 had a nice game, kind of the first time we've really been able to 961 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.119 talk about him in this season. And you know, again, but it 962 00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:35.360 doesn't matter, like it just it doesn't matter. And I know, I 963 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.000 know Montreal is gonna go to the playoffs. I get it, like they'll 964 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.000 be they'll be fine. They can you know, ride things out. But 965 00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:44.079 you know, it's it's difficult. It's difficult, and I you know, 966 00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:45.559 I don't know. That's just kind of where I'm at on it now. 967 00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:50.760 It's it sucks. Yeah, like you said, it's you said, well, 968 00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:52.760 I saw I cut, you cut, you throw that terrible pick, 969 00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.440 and it's like they're always terrible, Like they're always terrible, like it's always 970 00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.760 in double coverage or this is that whatever, I Jason, I'll give you 971 00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:01.960 the final stand here and then we'll get out of here and we'll reset XFL 972 00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:07.480 stream coming on at four forty five Pacific, seven forty five Eastern. We're 973 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:08.800 gonna reset here and hop over to that stream. What do you got, 974 00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:13.880 Jason? Yeah, So I think the big takeaway a half from this game 975 00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:17.639 and no big takeaway off in the weekend in general, is because they lost 976 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.719 this game and Hamilton's won on Saturday. They're now tied. Now, you 977 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:27.039 know, Hamilton's in that conversation for that home playoff game. As we go 978 00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.360 down the stretch here, Montreal still has that typebreaker that didn't look like it 979 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.760 was possible for this week, but now it looks like it's definitely a possibility. 980 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:38.280 You shouldn't be exciting. I mean, they you know, people always 981 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:40.159 poop with the ease. I don't know. I like this year, I 982 00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:44.920 like Winny Pig dropping something. I like they're being just a little bit more 983 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:46.840 than you know, Winnipeg's ten and one and going through you know, our 984 00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:52.000 our argos here are still kind of kind of the the one outlier of that. 985 00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:53.599 But I think otherwise this than that, I think kind of anybody can 986 00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:57.400 at least keep it close. You know, we just talked to it kind 987 00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.920 of Ottawa and DC and kind of all that stuff late episode here this week. 988 00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.320 Jason, are you going to be doing a preview coming up on your 989 00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:08.400 channel? Yeah, I'll be dropping one probably by tomorrow night. I still 990 00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:13.800 have another video tomorrow, so it'll be two videos coming out on my channel 991 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:16.199 most likely tomorrow, I'm going to be doing just a full out examination of 992 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:21.639 the playoffs all the different scenarios as we have like five games lapping the season 993 00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:23.840 for each team. So check that out on my channel. Well, it 994 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:27.239 should be exciting. Like I said, Evan's gonna hop over with me. 995 00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.800 We'll put the you know, go to the YouTube, it's up on there, 996 00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:31.559 pinned on, I'll pin it on Twitter if you want to do that 997 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:36.000 as well, talking xfl US and l Merger. Evan's going to be there, 998 00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:37.639 We're gonna have Anthony Miller joining us, Mike Mitchell is going to be 999 00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:40.760 coming on live, and then you know, we'll say comments and if people 1000 00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.000 want to hop on and kind of talk to that stuff as well. We'll 1001 00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:47.119 probably go for our fifteen or so and then we gotta go. We gotta 1002 00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:51.760 big like trivia party thing to another. I gotta go to So check out 1003 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:53.920 Jason stuff. Thanks guys, Like I said, making time this week and 1004 00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:58.719 late and everything else, but we did it. You know what is a 1005 00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:14.280 week fifteen here in the buck. So we'll see you guys next time. M hm