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the guy who won't shut up about
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a quick note before we start this
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This was actually one of the very
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it runs the gamut. Come on, Mike. Anyways, we hope you

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enjoy this excellent Jeopardy episode of You
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the show. Welcome everybody to a
very special episode of You Should Know Better,

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the trivia podcast that tests your knowledge
and a little bit of your patients.

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playing for shortly, but as for
right now, let's jump right into some

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questions and answers with our first of
four rounds, our General Knowledge Round Round

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one, General Knowledge Thinking, caps
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go. There are eight questions in
the General Knowledge Round. Here is question

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number one. Who was the first
woman to seek the Democratic nomination for President

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of the United States. I need
to know the name. Last name is

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fine the first woman to seek the
Democratic nomination for president. That is question

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number one. Do you guys need
a hint or no? We'll see right

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on. All right, We'll move
on to question number two in round one,

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Nicklas Kapernicus, who formulated the heliocentric
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we're we're revolving around the sun boys
and girls, not the other way around.

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I want to know what country is
he from? What country is Nicholas

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Copernicus from? Where does he hail
from? For question numerodos Moving on to

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question number three. Samantha B is
the host of what TBS show. She's

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got her own show on TBS.
Samantha B. Name her show the former

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Daily Show correspondent, Samantha B.
Name her show on TBS for question number

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three. Moving on to question number
for a little literature literature question, the

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character Vronsky v r O n Sky
is a main character in What Tolstoy Work?

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Vronsky is a main character in What
Leo Tolstoy Work? How are we

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feeling so far? Thus far?
Confident? Pisted, rusty, fantastic Question

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number five there's eight questions in round
one, the General Knowledge Round. We're

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already on question number five. What
soul music legend had albums titled Talking Book,

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Inner Visions and Music of My Mind. Name the soul music legend that

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had albums titled Talking Book, Inner
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my favorites of all time. For
question five, all right? Number six

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is your sports question in the General
Knowledge round. Named the late great college

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basketball coach who coached the Tennessee Lady
Valls from nineteen seventy four to twenty twelve.

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Very famous ladies basketball coach from Tennessee
again, Name the late great college

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basketball coach who coached the Tennessee Lady
Valls from nineteen seventy four to twenty twelve.

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Question number seven A little world geography, World geography. What I need

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from you gents? What is the
capital of the African nation of Burkina Fosso.

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Burkina Fosso has a capital that is
one of the greatest things of all

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time. And that's why I know
it because it's my favorite. So I

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had to ask that, So I
hope you both got that. Oh not

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at all sounded out. Use your
phonics on this one. Finally, question

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number eight our final question in round
one, our general knowledge round. Which

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leader was famously not invited to the
Yalta conference in February of nineteen forty five

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and the conference was focused on dealing
with Germany and post war Europe. Which

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leader was famously not invited to the
Yalta conference in February of nineteen forty five,

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and that conference was dealing with Germany
and post war Europe. That is

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your final question in this general knowledge
round. All right, let's meet our

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contestants before we get to these answers. Let's meet our contestants. We've been

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talking to him, We've been gabbing
this whole time. Two incredible Jeopardy champions.

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I'm so excited to have you both
here. First, let's introduce all

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the way from gross Point, Michigan. He's a choral music teacher. He

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won the twenty twenty Teachers Tournament and
was on just this spring, the Tournament

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of Champions. And did you guys
play against each other in a game?

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Yeah? He beat me. Oh
what a what a rat bastard? He

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is daily double. It could have
been a very very different night for his

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come up and revenge it's a rematch, it's a grudge match. Um,

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all the way from Gross Point,
Michigan. Ben Henry is here. Welcome

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Ben. That's Mike. It's a
real pleasure to be on. I'm grateful

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that you thought to invite me on
here and anything that comes with trivia,

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I'll come, I'll come along.
That's awesome. Yeah, I think,

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I think so Trivia Jeopardy bringing us
all back together is all good. And

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what charity are you playing for today? So the charity that I'm playing for

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is the Pancreatic Cancer Awareness Network.
Obviously a lot of your listeners will know

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that pancreatic cancer is what Alex was
struggling with into life. It is one

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of the forms of cancer that has
the lowest survival rate once it's diagnosed,

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and it is also the former cancer
that unfortunately took my wife's mom about four

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years ago. So it was very
surreal being on stage with Alex knowing what

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he was going through, and having
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through through my own personal connections and
through my mics. So, um,

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it's a it's an important cause.
Any anytime I have an opportunity to or

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people nowadays it's it's for Christmas when
you're getting together with family and you're like,

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well, I'm an adult and I
can get my own stuff, So,

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you know, make a donation to
such and such in my name,

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and Pancreatic Cancer Action Network is always
one of the first ones. And tastic

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what's a pleasure to have you here
and so glad you're playing for that charity.

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Um, we're going to have a
good time. Let's meet your opponent,

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the guy that beat you in the
Tournament of Champions. Weirdo Beardo over

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here all the way from Burbank,
California. We're neighbors, Kevin. We

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need to go have a drink,
so sometime soon. Um, what do

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you What do you do for a
living? The story analyst at Ambling Partners

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Streamworks fantastic Um. He was a
producer on the award one of the producers

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on the award winning twenty ten documentary
Marwin Call, which is one of my

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favorite documentaries about Mark Hogan. Campum. You were a five game winner on

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Jeopardy and you were in the recent
Tournament of Champions where you beat Ben.

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Mister Kevin Walsh is here. Thank
you, Mike for that very glowing introduction.

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You're quite cruel to Ben, who
doesn't deserve it. Truth, Man,

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I lost in a good game.
You know. It was a good

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game, one daily double that I
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I'm glad you got it. Let
me just say that much. And Kevin,

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who are you playing? What charity
did you pick to play for today?

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I opted for the American Heart Association
for big reasons, primarily because they're

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They're the main reason that I currently
have a fiance. My fiance, Kate

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was born with the co general party
condition, the defect that at acquired to

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get surgery when she was two and
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yeah, So she spent her whole
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and the research that the American Heart
Association helps to fund has been integral in

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keeping her alive and healthy and having
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would like to give back to that. That's incredible, and we're glad she's

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w with you. And we'll talk
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fiances with each other, because that's
got another Jeopardy tie in that some listeners

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might not know about, which is
one of the coolest and cutest things I've

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seen all year, something that we
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Jens, thanks for being here,
Thanks for picking these awesome charities. We'll

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talk a little bit more about the
charities and you guys along the way and

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our journeys on the show Jeopardy,
our favorite show of all time. All

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right, let's get into some answers
in round one our general knowledge Round Question

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number one was who was the first
woman to seek the Democratic nomination for president?

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I'll start with you, Ben.
What did you put for number one?

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Well, first I said Victoria Woodhall, but that was not the Democratic

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Party, was some other party.
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thought there must have been someone before
Hillary Clinton who was running. So I

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put Geraldine Ferraro. That's a great
guest, Kevin Walsh, what did you

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put? I had the inverse.
First, I thought Jodan Farraro in anything,

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Well, that wasn't President shy,
and then I went to Woodhall and

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that's where I stuck. All right, party, so we have both.

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We have Woodhall and we have Geraldine
Ferraro. You are both incorrect. Nineteen

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seventy two. She was also the
first person of color Shirley Chisholm nineteen seventy

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two. That's a tough one,
that's a deep cut. But Shirley Chisholm,

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Yeah, first woman and black black
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president back in nineteen seventy two.
There's a great documentary called Chisholm seventy two

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that I would recommend. Number two
Nicholas Copernicus, nicky cops, that's what

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I call him. No one calls
him that. Nicholas Copernicus, who formulated

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the heliocentric model of our universe.
Was from what country? Kevin? I

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went with Poland and Benjamin, what
did you put? I also said Poland,

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you are both correct. You're on
the board. One point there.

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Excellent, you guys are on the
board. Breathe easy, all right.

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Number three I kind of fumbled this
one, so I had to changed the

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question. Former Daily Show correspondent Samantha
Bee has her own show on TBS named

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the title of the show. Ben
that's full frontal, Kevin, what did

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you put? Full frontal? I
added with Samantha b but mainly full front

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it is full frontal with Samantha by
give yourselves a point, full frontal on

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TBS with Samantha b. She is. She's very smart and hilarious. Question

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number four it was our literature question. Vronsky is a main character in What

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Leo Tolstoy Work? Kavin. I
threw a dart at this one and hit

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the Crime and Punishment, Crime and
Punishment, Benjamin Henry, what did you

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put Count Vronsky? I do believe
is from Anna Karenina. The correct answer

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is Anna Karen No, no,
no no. Question number five, what

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soul music legend had albums titled Talking
Book, Innervisions and Music of My Mind?

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Ben As a little Stevie Wonder Kevin
Walsh? What did you put little

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Stevie Wonder? Steve Land Morris,
better known as Stevie Wonder is correct.

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That answer deserves a huzzah. Question
number six was our sports question named the

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late great college basketball coach who coached
the Tennessee Lady Vaals from nineteen seventy four

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to two thousand and twelve. Kevin, See what I object you here is

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you keep coming to me first on
the ones that I don't know, I'm

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just going either or I'm sorry.
I have the famous idea, Uh you

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know, I'm gonna say Jane Wooden. I'm just gonna make up a name.

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That's that's a great guest because John
is the king of all college basketball

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coach, So that's great. Jane
Wooden is a great guess. Ben Henry,

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did you have a guess? I
believe this is Pat Summit. Pat

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Summit is your correct answer, Pat
Summit, coach of Lady Valls. Yeah.

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I'm not sure how many titles they
want, but it was multiple titles,

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and they were always in the final
four. Question number seven, what

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is the capital of Burkina? Fosso
one of my it's my favorite capital.

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Take Gousi. Gulpa is a close
second, but this one takes the cake.

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Ben, what did you put h
Uagadoogu? Kevin, did you get

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Uagadoogu? Oh? Yeah, that
was That was very much in the COOC

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training manual. No kind of Central
African capitals or West western Africa Central.

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It's kind of near there. Yeah, Ouagadoogu, Burkina Fossio. Um.

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I gotta go there. I have
to. That's like another that's like,

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now that I've reached Jeopardy, my
new bucket list is I gotta go stay

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in Ouagadoogu, Burkina Fossio. Finally, question number eight, which leader was

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not invited to the Yalta conference in
February of nineteen forty five, and that

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was the conference focused on dealing with
Germany in the post war Europe. Um,

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we're going to Kevin on this one? Did you know this one?

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We're going to be because they didn't
know it? Um? No, I

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again, even though I'm almost certainly
probably had to be there, But I

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want to Stalin. You put Stalin
Ben? Did you pick Stalin as well?

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So? I originally wrote Stalin and
I and I cannot remember through Yalta

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and Potsdam and then wasn't there a
third? There was a third one in

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Casablanca, I think, And I
don't know who was at all of them.

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There's the famous picture of the three
of them, but I don't know

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from which one it was. So
I nixed Stalin and I don't even think

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he was the president of France at
this point. But I said de Gall.

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The correct answer is Chuck de Gall
Charles. Those three were kind of

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like the mean girls and didn't let
Charles come to the cafetorium table that they

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were sitting at. U. Yeah, at Yalta in Russia. Yeah,

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Charles de gaul was not there to
to carve up Europe and talk about Germany

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and stuff. So after round one, Ben with seven and Kevin with four,

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it's a three point game. It's
seven to four. After round one,

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that's that's a okay. So before
we move on to round two,

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which we'll get in very quickly,
I just wanted to know your guys' story

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of like getting on the show.
How long did it take for you guys

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to finally get on the show,
or to get on the teachers tournament or

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whatnot? How long did it take? So Kevin, we'll start with you.

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What was your journey like to just
make it to the show. One

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way of looking at it took took
years and years and years. The other

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way of looking at it, as
it happened almost immediately. But when I

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was a teenager, I tried out
to the team tournament and passed the test

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and got to play a MOP game, and Alex came out and sort of

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said hid everybody, which he was
there was great, did not pass muster

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after the mop game, didn't get
the call, and so years past I

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just watched the show. Fiance Kate
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We watched together, we got back
into it. I was like, oh,

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the t online, Now I can
give that a shot. And so

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it was last January that it took
the test. That was your first time

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taking the online test. You got
holy shit, that's awesome. That is

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not what I did. No,
I gather from now experience that that is

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an atypical process. I think also, well, I had my follow up

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and they let me do it on
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was by then we were in lockdown. Yeah, that that interview, and

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then it was just okay, we'll
see if we come back when we come

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back. And then I guess about
six weeks maybe before we actually started shooting,

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at a call, they said we're
back on and you're in. And

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I think a lot of that had
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drink to Sony. To be honest, Yeah, that was that was that

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was part of it. Are you
close? But that's what's so cool.

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That's a big reason why I want
to do these shows is no one really

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knows these these journeys of any of
these players that we get to know and

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we like on the show. But
then they're gone and you kind of lose

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touch with what like that you almost
made the teen tournament a million years ago,

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and then you're like just watching the
show and you're like, I'll take

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the test and you get it,
and you go on and you win five

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shows and get on the awesome I'm
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that's true. I was gonna say, you know that old Mike Gray,

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and yes, it's very Yeah,
that's that's an incredible story. Ben.

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How about you? What was your
journey to get on the show? So

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I started taking the online test probably
in twenty ten, twenty eleven or something,

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and I took it several times.
Uh, And I got an email

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in twenty thirteen to do an in
person in Detroit, and I got that

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and I was in the contestant pool
for eighteen months and never heard back.

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I got put in the contesting pool
again in around twenty seventeen. Eighteen months

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went by, never heard back.
So finally I took the test, the

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online test again, and it would
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twenty nineteen, give or take.
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same time and did better than me, and then I got an in person

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in August, and then I got
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do the taping at the end of
February, two or three weeks before everything

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shut down. So you know,
all that long, long waited time,

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and if it had been if the
timing had been just a little worse,

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it may not have happened. So
it's very fortunate from all sorts of different

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sides. Yeah, that's because that's
an interesting point is you can take the

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online test, and I think I
think they threw out some numbers when you're

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when you're at Jeopardy where it's like, you know, a couple hundred thousand

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people take the test every year,
and out of that maybe the four thousand

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get the call to take the second
battery of tests. So it's already one

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hundred ninety six thousand plus people like
you didn't make it. But we'll talk

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more about our our our journeys on
the show after round two. But let's

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get to round two, which is
your pop culture grab bag. Round two

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pop culture grab Bag, We're going
to the movies for round two, and

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more specifically, these are movies that
have this actress in them. She's one

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of my favorites Rosario Dawson. These
are Rosario Dawson films. So we're talking

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from like the mid nineties to current
times, movies from that era, so

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we've all been alive during these movies. She's done. She's done some she's

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done some deep cuts, but she's
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we'll see how this goes your your
knowledge of Rosario Dawson films. Here we

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go question number one. In round
two, I'll give you the year and

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a brief synopsis. You just give
me the title of the film. So

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this one is from nineteen ninety five. I believe this is her very first

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film. Nineteen ninety five. Harmony
Corinne directed this film about a day in

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the life of a group of teens
as they travel around New York City skating,

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drinking, smoking, and deflowering virgins. That is the IMDb synopsis of

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this film. Once again, nineteen
ninety five. The director Harmony Corinne directed

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this film about a day in the
life of a group of teens as they

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travel around New York City skating,
drinking, smoking, and deflowering of virgins.

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That is question number one. Question
number two. More recently, twenty

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nineteen. Remember that, remember for
the pandemic, Remember that twenty nineteen.

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All right, here is the synopsis. In this sequel, Columbus, Tallahassee,

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Wichita and Little Rock moved to the
American heartland as they face off against

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evolved zombie, fellow survivors and the
growing pains of the snarky makeshift family.

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So I would need the full title
of this sequel sequel to an earlier film

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twenty nineteen. In this sequel,
Columbus, Tallahassee, Wichita and Little Rock

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moved to the American heartland as they
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and the growing pains of the snarky
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All right, question number three in
round two your pop culture grab bag.

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Rosario Dawson Films. Two thousand and
five is the year for number three.

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This is the film version of the
Pulitzer or Pulitzer and Tony Award winning musical

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about bohemians in the East village of
New York City struggling with life, love

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and aids and the impacts they have
on America. Name that film once again.

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Two thousand and five. This is
the film version of the Pulitzer Pulitzer

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and Tony Award winning musical Bohemians in
the East Village of New York City,

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Struggling with life, love and aids
and the impacts they have on America.

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That was question number three. Question
number four were Almost Halfway Home in the

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Rosario Dawson Movies Around. Question number
four is from twenty ten. Is the

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year twenty ten. With an unmanned
half mile long freight train barreling toward a

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city, a veteran engineer and a
young conductor race against the clock to prevent

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a catastrophe. Name that movie twenty
ten. With an unmanned half mile long

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freight train barreling toward a city,
a veteran engineer and young conductor race against

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the clock to prevent a catastrophe.
Question number five. Question number five is

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from two thousand and two, Cornered
by the d EA, Convicted New York,

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A Lot of New York Questions.
New York drug dealer Montgomery Brogan reevaluates

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his life the twenty four remaining hours
before facing a seven year jail term.

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In this Spike Lee directed film two
thousand and two, Cornered by the d

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EA, convicted New York drug dealer
Montgomery Brogan reevaluates his life in the twenty

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four remaining hours before facing a seven
year jail term in this Spike Lee directed

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film, Question number six is from
two thousand and seven. Two thousand and

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seven, two separate sets of voluptuous
women are stalked at different times by a

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scarred stuntman who uses his cars to
execute his murderous plans. Once again,

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from two thousand and seven, two
separate sets of voluptuous women are stalked at

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different times by a scarred stuntman who
uses his cars to execute his murderous plans.

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I just watched this for the first
time during lockdown. No hints,

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no need for this one. Yeah, all right, number seven. We're

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moving on to number seven. Another
more recent film from twenty seventeen. Twenty

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seventeen, A Cooler than Ever.
Bruce Wayne, voiced by Will Arnette,

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must deal with the Unusual Suspect the
Usual Suspects as they planned to rule Gotham

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City, while discovering that he has
accidentally adopted a teenage orphan who wishes to

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become his sidekick. I need the
full title for that one. Twenty seventeen

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a Cooler than ever. Bruce Wayne
voiced by Will Arnett, must deal with

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the usual suspects as they planned to
rule Gotham City, while discovering that he

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has accidentally adopted a teenage orphan who
wishes to become his sidekick. We good

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on Numero siete thumbs up. Yes, Kevin's gave kind of a sort of

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thumbs up, kind of a A
csc mah. We'll see question number eight

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your final question in this the pop
culture grap bag Rosario Dawson Films is from

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two thousand and five. Two thousand
and five an exploration of the dark and

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miserable Basin City and three of its
residents, all of whom are caught up

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in violent corruption in this Noirish crime
thriller co directed by Frank Miller, Robert

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Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino. Name that
film from two thousand and five, an

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exploration of the dark and miserable Basin
City and three of its residents, all

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of whom are caught up in violent
corruption in this Noirish crime thriller co directed

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by Frank Miller, Robert Rodriguez and
Quentin Tarantino. Do you need any repeats

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from those eight questions. I don't
think anything's gonna help me. I feel

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like I did pretty well. I
feel like I did pretty well if I'm

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being honest. That's good. That's
good, because yeah, this was not

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I don't think this was impossible,
but I don't know I did better.

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All right, Let's go through our
answers for round two. Rosario Dawson and

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Films Number one, nineteen ninety five. Harmony Krin directed this film by the

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Day in the Life of a group
of teens in New York City doing a

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bunch of terrible things. Kevin,
what did you put for number one?

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Kids? Benjamin Henry? What did
you put? That? Is also what

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I put? It is correct,
kids. I saw that in college.

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Was disturbed but enthralled at the same
time. Very Harmony Korean right there.

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Yeah, totally groundbreak. I was
just like, I feel, I feel

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kind of bad and dirty watching this, but incredible Chloe Savini seeing her for

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the very first time in a film, too, Rosario Dawson, kind of

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incredible, kids? Is your answer
for number one? Question? Number two?

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Twenty nineteen. In the sequel Columbus, Tallahassee, Wichita and Little Rock

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moved to the American Heartland as they
face off against evolved zombies. Blah blah

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blah blah blah, Ben, what
did you put for number two? So,

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I don't know how nitpicky you're going
to be on exact wording. I

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don't know if there's a two in
the title, but I put zombieland double

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tap and Kevin, what did you
put for number two? I put the

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two in the title, So I
don't know if it's a I'm gonna I'm

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gonna give it to you. I'm
gonna give it to you if you put

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it or didn't put it. I
think that's fine because you guys got the

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title zombieland double Tap. But if
you put it two in there, I'm

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not going to cut against that.
I'm not going to be like Judges.

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No, we're playing for charity,
win or lose, it doesn't matter.

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It's just I'm playing for pride and
revenge, playing for keeps. Yeah.

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Question number three was from two thousand
and five. This film a version of

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Bohemians in the East Village of New
York City, struggling with all those predicaments.

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Kevin, what did you put for
number three? Yeah? That was

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Rent, Ben, what did you
you got this? Please say you got

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this? So this is this is
Rent Rant? Is your answer? Number

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four was from twenty ten that freight
train headed for that city. Chris Pine

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and Denzel Washington are trying to get
it to stop. What are you gonna

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do? Ben? What did you
come up with for that one word title?

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For number four? I'm pretty sure
this is unstoppable? Kevin? What

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did you put? I think Ben's
right, but I was like, I

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had like runaway or something. I
knew it was Tony Scotts last film,

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wasn't I don't know. I think
you might be right. We'll have Annie

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looked that up. Was that Tony
Scott's last film? The correct answer is

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unstoppable? Unstoppable? Question number five
from two thousand and two, cornered by

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the DA convicted New York regular Montgomery
Brogan, who's played by Ed Norton.

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He was the protagonist in this film
that we were looking for, the Spike

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Lee film. Kevin, what did
you put for number five? I do

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not know this one, so I
don't even think this is a Spike Lee

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film that I guess, but I
just put where the Devil Knows You're dead?

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Trying to think of crime film.
That's a great guests because Philip Seymour

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Hoffman was in that film. Ben, what did you put so I think

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you may put a little hint in
there twenty four hour because I think this

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film is called the twenty fifth Hour. That is correct, twenty fifth Hour.

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Spikeley did not write it, but
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I had no idea. But when
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and I've never seen it, but
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one with that Norton. It came
around the same time as twenty one Grams

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and Blow and some of those other
heavy drug correct, yeah, because that

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came out, yeah, in two
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the movie where one of them lives
in a high rise in New York City

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and it's overlooking ground zero, like
you see like ground zero they use in

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the film because that's like a time
sets the time right there where they're at.

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But I bought I bought a cool
hand loop poster, which is one

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of my favorite things I own in
my home based on there's a poster at

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Ed Norton and Rosario Dawson's apartment that's
the coolest cool hand Loo poster I'd ever

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seen, So I was like,
I must own that, thank you.

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Twenty fifth hour question number six from
two thousand and seven. Two separate sets

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of sets of voluptuous women are stalked
at different times a scarred stuntman, Ben,

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who is who? What is that? So the stuntman I believe was

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played by Kurt Russell? And that's
death Proof? Kevin? Did you get

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death proof man? Mike right?
Deathly? Yeah? Make death Proof.

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It was part of that twin Build
Grindhouse feature with plant? Was it Planet

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Terror was the other one? Terror? Yeah? Death Proof is your answer

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for round six. Question number seven
was from twenty seventeen to Cooler Than Ever

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Bruce Wayne voice by Will Arnett.
Can you give me this movie title?

403
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.440
Kevin? I feel like there's a
subtitle here that I'm missing, But so

404
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.079
I just went with Lego Batman?
Ben? Would you put? I said,

405
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.039
Lego Batman movie? It is the
Lego Batman movie. I will give

406
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.759
you both, the point being very
lenient. I'm not charging for me twos

407
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:51.079
or movie. It's like we got
it's Lego Batman, the Lego Batman Movie.

408
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:53.680
Question number eight your final question two
thousand and five, an exploration of

409
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.200
the dark and miserable Basin City.
This was shot in black and white,

410
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.599
looked like a comic book. Ben, what did you put for number eight?

411
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.759
Well, when you said Basin City, I was like, all right,

412
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.920
then, so this is sin City. That is the correct answer,

413
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.680
Kevin, did you get Sin City? I hope? Oh yeah, I

414
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.079
have. I have some Frank Miller
print stuff on my wall in my round.

415
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.480
Awesome. I was going to say, you own the graphic novel that

416
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:23.640
Frank Miller wrote, that it's based
off of Sin City is correct. So

417
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:31.039
let's get your scores after around two, Kevin, you've gotten six? Ben,

418
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.000
did you get them? I did
goodness for the twenty fifth hour,

419
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.640
and I was on an Ed Norton
kick at that point in my life,

420
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.759
even though I never saw it.
Nice. So we gotta I forgot to

421
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:47.359
update our scoreboard. How how okay? Well? Ben's got fifteen, you're

422
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:52.680
doing blue and Ka Boogie's got ten. You're already at double digits. Don't

423
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.519
feel bad. It's fifteen to ten. We're at halftime. We're at halftime

424
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.759
of you should know better with Mike's
Nelson, that's me. We're playing with

425
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:07.480
two former Jeopardy Jeopardy champions, Kevin
Walsh and Ben Henry. So, yeah,

426
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.920
when you guys were on the show, you guys actually got to play

427
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.599
with our dear departed Alex Trebek.
So do you guys have any stories of

428
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.720
just what it was like to to
meet Alex and then and play your games

429
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:25.759
with him on our favorite show.
It's strange you don't see him until the

430
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.559
show begins because he gets he gets
paid too much to be out there for

431
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:35.839
dress rehearsals. But we did get
the great privilege of doing some promotional things

432
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:40.000
with him before the episodes began,
so, you know, a couple of

433
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.079
photographs with him and things like that, and that was that was really special,

434
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.759
consummate professional. And one of the
things that your listeners might not know

435
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.240
is that if you ever go to
a taping of Jeopardy or went to a

436
00:33:53.240 --> 00:34:00.480
taping, he would answer audience questions
during commercials and he was always so gracious

437
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.240
and had a great sense of humor. You know, a couple of people

438
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:07.880
said, what should we name our
dog? You know, and you know

439
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:13.840
other people say, what do you
think the the Canucks chances are this year?

440
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.719
Or whatever the case may be.
And you know, some clearly trying

441
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:23.199
to cater to his Canadian sensibilities,
but he had infinite patience. I just

442
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:28.840
count myself very fortunate to have been
able to shake his hand and share the

443
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.880
stage with him. Fantastic, Kevin. Do you have any stories from from

444
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:36.960
meeting the man? The myth and
legend? Just three moments stuck with me

445
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.880
because people might not know as well. When the game's over, he has

446
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:43.320
that little chat that you see over
the credits and then they're like okay,

447
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.519
cut and then he's gone. He
just turns to and he's just and that's

448
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.280
by design because he's not supposed to
fright or eyes outside of the game and

449
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:55.079
everything like that, but it is
a little disconcerting. So there was one

450
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:58.840
moment, and we didn't have an
audience, so there was no banter with

451
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.920
him during the commercials right like that. He would just do his pickups and

452
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:07.559
that was it. But I do
recall I was very happy during one interview

453
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.920
where I elicited what felt like a
genuine chuckle from him, and so I

454
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.559
was like, that's a bucket list
item. I got out laugh. Yes,

455
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.360
I made Alixtra Beck laugh. I
got a Canadian geography question wrong,

456
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:24.920
and so I got to endure that
the wrath the rath. And then there

457
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:30.000
was a moment and I like my
third or fourth game and we were doing

458
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.920
final Jeopardy and I had to rewrite
my wager because it was my penmanship was

459
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.480
poor. And he was at it. He was at his he was at

460
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.920
his lectern. He didn't even look
up. He just said, come on,

461
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:47.480
Kevin, you've been here before.
And oh, that's so great.

462
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:51.960
Piteously made me feel about this big, but also made me feel awesome because

463
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.360
I'm like, yeah, we've got
banter now. He knows, he knows

464
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.239
I can take it right, buddy, Right, pal Alex, you're best

465
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.480
friends now. So it was really
special, awesome. Thanks for those stories,

466
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:07.159
gents. Well, we'll talk a
little bit more of our Jeopardy journeys

467
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:14.519
as we get going. But now
it's time for the Lightning round round three.

468
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.320
The Lightning round round three, which
is a little bit different. Yeah,

469
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:22.280
sound effects, thunderbolts, thunderclaps,
lightning bolts, all that jazz.

470
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.679
We'll add that. Well, fix
it in post again, Like you guys

471
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:30.519
aren't gonna know what the hell these
are all about until we just until I

472
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.000
Sam, So this is the Lightning
Round. It goes by very quick,

473
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.039
but it's just using a different part
of our brains to see, like how

474
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.880
quick our recall is, because it's
very easy to just hear the question and

475
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:45.440
be like, oh man, and
there's five seconds gone. All right.

476
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.800
So the wide range of categories,
so I hope these I hope you guys

477
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.519
pick good categories that you guys can
have some fun with. So we're gonna

478
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.719
have our Kevin's gonna go first.
He's down fifteen to ten heading into round

479
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.760
three, the Lightning Round. You
can choose from these three girl groups.

480
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.559
Again, they don't have anything to
do with the question or the answers,

481
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:09.559
but you can pick between three of
my favorite girl groups TLC and Vogue or

482
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:17.679
Destiny's Child TLC and Vogue or Destiny's
Child. Well we gotta go, s

483
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.800
Beyonce. Right, let's do Destiny's
Child. All right, You're gonna do

484
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:27.400
Destiny's Child. So Ben, you
need to pay attention because you're gonna get

485
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:32.000
your five second rebuttal like right after
Kevin goes for twenty seconds, I'm gonna

486
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.679
I'm gonna say this question twice,
your question twice and then say the word

487
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:37.679
go and then hit start and then
you'll have twenty seconds after that. So

488
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.440
your category. Kevin, here we
go. Clear your mind, take a

489
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:46.559
deep breath. I need for you
to name the twelve disciples of Jesus Christ.

490
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:53.280
Name the names of the twelve Disciples
of Jesus Christ. Go Simon,

491
00:37:53.480 --> 00:38:01.880
Peter, Paul, Timothy, Oh
jeez, Judas Iscariot, um uh Andrew,

492
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.719
oh boy um. You know I
memorized these at one point. There

493
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:15.400
are two uh they're either two Simon's
or two Peters. Stop. You got

494
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:17.480
at least four of them. I
think you got Peter, Andrew, Judas,

495
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:21.559
Iscariot, and Simon the Zellott.
All right, I'm coming to you

496
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.599
for your five second orbuttal Benjamin and
go Thomas, James, the Greater James,

497
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.519
the Lesser John, Timothy, Bartholome, you Thadty. You got the

498
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:36.679
two James is for sure, you
got Thaddeus. You got Thomas. That

499
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.679
was really quick. I was trying
to think of all did you write him

500
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:45.199
down? We'll go, I said, Bartholomew. Yeah, Bartholomew or Nathaniel.

501
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.079
You could hear there's a couple of
those that like they had two names.

502
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.800
So it's like Bartholomew or Nathaniel,
James the lesser or younger Jude or

503
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.960
Thaddeus. You got Thaddius, So
you got three? You got at least

504
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.760
five. Did you say Philip?
I did not say Philip. Would you

505
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.159
say Matthew that's one of my brothers, and say math not one of your

506
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:07.719
close brothers. Oh, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, although he is.

507
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.519
There's a twelve year age difference between
the two of us. Would you say

508
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:14.480
John, I said John, but
Ken I couldn't. I was. It

509
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.599
was very quick. Don't get so
good. I can't even see what I

510
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:22.880
wrote. Probably not. You can
go to the tape. Yeah, we'll

511
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:24.199
have to go to the tape.
I think we got at least ten out

512
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.519
of the twelve. We didn't get
Philip. And then did someone say Matthew

513
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.039
or Levi okay, I think that
one. Yeah, that was a tough

514
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.280
one too. So Philip and Matthew
LEVI I don't think we got so.

515
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:43.320
I think Ben you got six and
Kevin you got four in the twelve Disciples

516
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.760
of Jesus Christ. Amen. That's
over right. Oh my god, I

517
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.320
think the wrong category. Um,
all right, So Ben, it's your

518
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.920
turn in the barrel twenty seconds on
the clock for you. You could take

519
00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:01.679
TLC or end voke TLC. Should
I free my mind or should I chase

520
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:06.440
waterfalls? I think I'm gonna being
as this is a trivia podcast, I'm

521
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.920
gonna free my mind and the rest
will follow. Oh, this is a

522
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.440
great one. I like this one. You might hate me, but I

523
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.880
think this will see an interesting question. So Kevin, be on the ready

524
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:22.760
for your rebuttal, I need you
to name the twelve US presidents that had

525
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:29.280
facial hair. The twelve US presidents
that had some sort of facial hair.

526
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:35.880
A go, Grant, Hayes,
Harrison, Garfield, Cleveland, Roosevelt,

527
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:43.800
Theodore Roosevelt, h Harrison. I
said you Kennon Van Buren, Adams,

528
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:52.880
No, Johnson McKinley, No,
he didn't. Taft. I thinks you

529
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.840
got Taft under the wire. You
got four or five? Six? You

530
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.679
got seven out of the twelve.
Well you got John Quincy, Adams,

531
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.280
Rothford, B. Hayes, James
A. Garfield, Grover, Cleveland,

532
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:08.599
Benjamin and Harrison, Teddy, Roosevelt, and Taft. Did say, Grant,

533
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:12.159
that was the first one I saw. Did say, Grant? You

534
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.679
have eight? Um? All right? So you have your five second or

535
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:21.000
buttle Kevin twelve presents said had facial
hair. Go who knows? Still more,

536
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:29.119
pierced h Harrison, h Coolidge,
Hoover stop, any of those have

537
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:34.800
fair I don't believe. So I
missed Chester Arthur. That's facial hair.

538
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.360
Chester A. Arthur had some facial
hair. Um, did you guys?

539
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:52.239
Either of you guys say Lincoln No, that answer deserves a spluche. That's

540
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.079
that's why I love the Lightning Round. I love the Lightning Round because of

541
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.559
that. Yeah, one of you
guys got Benjamin Harrison, right, Yeah,

542
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:02.679
I went through the Gilded Age almost
in order. Okay, so yeah,

543
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:06.039
I think ben got it first,
but I think you said it.

544
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.880
So I almost wanted to give Kevin
Benjamin Harrison. But yeah, like the

545
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.800
Lightning Round again, you're like you're
thinking of all these deep cuts. You're

546
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.760
like, oh, um, the
other ones we didn't get. I don't

547
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:21.000
believe was Martin van Buren. I
said, maybe I didn't. I thought,

548
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:22.280
I said Ben Buren. I don't
know if you said it again.

549
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:27.360
This is tough to gauge because it
was so quick. And Zachary Taylor Old

550
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.440
Ruffin Sady has some head, some
head, some choppage. So we'll just

551
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.400
we'll just go with that because you
did great Ben in that that round you

552
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.760
got you got eight of them.
But yeah, Abraham again, it's so

553
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.360
weird that like that happens all the
time, where you get all excited and

554
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.159
you're like, oh, I forgot
George Washington, I forgot I forgot the

555
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:50.679
obvious ones, I forgot the big
one. So we're updating the score here,

556
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.800
Ben, holy smokes in the lightning
round. That was a hell of

557
00:42:53.840 --> 00:43:00.239
a lightning round. I got lucky. It's a president's thing again. Four

558
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:05.280
team, we're up to twenty nine
points. That dude, that's impressive.

559
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.119
Ben. You're really showing off.
This is a grudge match. You are

560
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:13.199
really like exacting Revengean sorry, I
wasn't gonna say anything else after I said

561
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.079
it like four times, Like all
right, you're beating a dead horse here

562
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:22.079
is really piling on this port.
I just keep thinking about your brother spitefully

563
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:24.000
going on Jeopardy just to be like, it's not so hard. How is

564
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:30.920
it that you haven't been done?
It will say, Kevin's memorabilia room far

565
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.320
out strips anything I could ever hope
to have in my life. It's incredible,

566
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.239
all right. That was the crazy
nutty Cuckoo where we forgot about honest

567
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.760
Abe who for the umpteenth time I
just read today he was. They do

568
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:49.360
that every twenty years. They judge
all the presidents and ray who's the best

569
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:53.679
and who's the worst. And Abe
took the prize again number one for like

570
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:59.760
eighty years run or whatever. Um, guys, we're here with Kevin Walsh

571
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.079
and Henry. They're both former Jeopardy
champions that are joining us here on you

572
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:07.000
should know better playing for we got
the American Heart Association. Kevin's playing for

573
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.480
Very Near and Dear to his Heart
and Ben Henry is playing for the Pancreatic

574
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:15.480
Cancer Action Network, both incredible charities. Were very lucky to have you both

575
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.599
here with us. What has happened
since your guys run, Because you guys

576
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:24.400
had different runs than most Jeopardy contestants
where you got to be on Ben,

577
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:28.639
you were in two tournaments and Kevin
you had a nice five day run followed

578
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.280
by the Tournament of Champions and like
talk about you know what what's happened since

579
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.840
then? And like the camaraderie of
this last Tournament of Champions just seemed like

580
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:40.599
it was there was something special about
this last group of contestants where you guys

581
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.280
have become very close. If you
guys want to tell some stories about that.

582
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:50.760
I called Ben our champ counselor because
when we were at the tournament and

583
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:55.400
everybody who's in the staged in the
Wheel Fortune audience area, Ben was one

584
00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:00.400
who carry came to the forefront in
terms of bonding group and the icebreakers and

585
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.679
so as the over the course of
the you know, the four days or

586
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.360
so, that really facilitated feeling like
a group, like a co wort,

587
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:16.519
as opposed to something super competitive and
antagonistic. I regretted in my initial run.

588
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.079
And you have this experience too,
I'm sure, Mike, since we

589
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.159
shot during COVID when that was tougher. Yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't

590
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:28.400
really mix and mingle with the contestancy. So that was something I was really

591
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.480
hoping to experience with the tournament,
and it happened in a way that I

592
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.719
beyond my wildest dreams. Um,
it's just a really great group of folks,

593
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:42.239
the alternates as well, everybody who's
just super cool and so it's it's

594
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.960
really been the second best thing to
come out of Jeopardy for me easily.

595
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.239
Yeah, yeah, we'll get We'll
get to that very best thing, uh,

596
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:52.280
in a little bit, because that's
that's that's a that's a topper.

597
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.239
Well we'll end with that because that's
such a beautiful story, Ben, Do

598
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:59.039
you have any stories from the Teachers
Tournament or the Tournament of Champions that you'd

599
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:04.440
like to talk about? Much the
same Immediately when we all got together,

600
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:08.719
we had this thing in common,
right, we're all teachers, and Jeopardy

601
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:15.199
is also in itself a bonding experience
of going through the show itself is kind

602
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:19.000
of traumatic, right. You know, you're talking about high stakes, the

603
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:21.760
potential to win lots of money,
lose lots of money. It's in a

604
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.519
way, it's kind of like gambling, but you know, with a little

605
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:30.199
bit sort of a different mechanics in
place, and it can really most people

606
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.360
who play, most former contestants I've
talked to, they remember more of the

607
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.719
wrong answers they got than they do
the correct answers. And that's coming from

608
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.000
multi day champions, right, And
we're sort of programmed to think about the

609
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:45.360
negative things around it. And I
want to give credit to Lauren Schneider Lipton,

610
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.000
who was one of the contestants in
the Teacher Tournament, who was really

611
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.880
proactive about making sure that we put
a Facebook group together and got our numbers

612
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.159
together as many of us as possible. And I just took that model and

613
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.480
rolled with it for the tournament and
champions again. You immediately have something in

614
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.199
common with all the people they are
a love of knowledge, a love of

615
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.400
learning, a curiosity, a hunger
for it, the Socrates thing of the

616
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:13.719
I know I'm the wisest man because
I know that I know nothing. So

617
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.320
that quest for knowledge, I think, is also a thing that ties us

618
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:22.000
together. And it's just really easy
to keep in touch with everyone because because

619
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.559
of those commonalities. Yeah, it
was cool to follow you guys on social

620
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.880
media, and that's how I just
kind of I didn't know of this whole

621
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.199
fraternity or alumnis association that happens to
Jeopardy until I was done. And then

622
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.800
someone invited me to the Facebook group
and I was following to certain people had

623
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.880
befriended me, and I started befriending
other people and just to follow you guys,

624
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:43.679
and seeing like, you know,
the group meals you know that you

625
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.800
guys had because it was still doing
a pandemic. But like, you guys

626
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:47.280
were just going out and eating at
picnic tables together, and it was like,

627
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:51.400
what a cool thing because you're all
from different parts of the country and

628
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.079
you're all staying at the hotel rooms
and stuff. But that you guys found

629
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:57.440
time to bond right there. I
was like, man, that's awesome.

630
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.480
That's that's what Jeopardy is all about. And again I reached out to a

631
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.000
handful of you. So some of
your friends are are geared up to match

632
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.119
up against each other very very soon
too. So I'm excited to hopefully get

633
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.760
the whole, the whole cast of
characters back together on these one on ones

634
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.440
in the very near future. So
again, thanks for thanks for being here

635
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:19.920
and sharing those stories. And yeah, I think it's just so cool.

636
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.599
I'm just I'm geeking out on all
this jeopardydom that we're talking about that doesn't

637
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:29.119
talked about enough. All right,
So after I think our judges have updated

638
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:34.920
score, it's still a bloodbath right
now, twenty nine to fifteen in favor

639
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:39.559
of Ben Henry going into our final
round, the Theodore Double Duty Radcliff round

640
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:46.400
where points are doubled. Round four
the Double Duty and instead of eight questions,

641
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:51.039
there's always nine questions, so there's
eighteen points on the board. So

642
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:55.639
we're gonna need Ben to not know
anything about this next category and Kevin needs

643
00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:00.760
to just run the table. This
is all Marvel and d see comic books,

644
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.960
right, yea yeah, looking from
what's on your wall, it's all

645
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.280
Marble versus DC. That is the
category. Okay, No, that would

646
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:13.519
be great. No. The category
for your final rounds of the Theodore Double

647
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:17.320
Duty Radcliff Round where points are doubled
is US Geography. There are nine questions

648
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:23.199
that kind of run the ganbent of
US geography. Are you ready? Yes,

649
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:30.760
sir? Tough shit. Here we
go. Question number one in your

650
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:37.559
final round, what is the fourth
largest state in size in area with the

651
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.039
square mileage of over one hundred and
forty seven thousand square miles? Not one,

652
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.360
two, or three? But what
is the fourth largest US state?

653
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.440
That is question number one. I'll
give you a few seconds to think about

654
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.480
that one again. Question number one, US geography. What is the fourth

655
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:59.519
largest state in size coming in around
one hundred and forty seven thousand plus square

656
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:07.760
mile The question numeral those Question number
two, what city is the home of

657
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.519
the Negro League Hall of Fame.
We all know Cooperstown, New York is

658
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.960
the home of the Baseball Hall of
Fame. But there is a Negro League

659
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:20.239
Hall of Fame that I want to
go to very soon. What city is

660
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:25.719
that in? That was question number
two. Question number three in your US

661
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:31.039
Geography final round. Mount Saint Helens, which literally blew its top on May

662
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:37.559
eighteenth, nineteen eighty is part of
what mountain range? Mount Saint Helens is

663
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:42.599
part of what mountain range in the
Pacific Northwest? Mount Saint Helens, which

664
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:46.920
literally blew its top on May eighteenth, nineteen eighty I was forty one years

665
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:52.800
ago, yikes, is part of
what mountain range? That is question number

666
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:58.320
three. Number four. We're moving
right along question number four. Mammoth Cave

667
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:01.440
is in? What state? In
the state that Mammoth Cave resides in?

668
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:10.480
For question number four, Question number
five is a state capital question. State

669
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.000
capitals? We know most of those, right, I hope. What is

670
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.719
the capital of the New England state
of New Hampshire. What is New Hampshire's

671
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:27.159
capital city? Maybe a little lesser
known than most the capital city of New

672
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:34.480
Hampshire For number five, Question number
six, what is the smallest of the

673
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.239
Great Lakes in terms of surface area? In terms of surface area, what

674
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:46.559
is the smallest of those great lakes? Question number seven? What wyoming beaute?

675
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.559
Is featured in the film Close Encounters
of the Third Kind? What wyoming

676
00:51:53.559 --> 00:52:00.199
beaute? Don't hear that a lot
is featured in the film Close Counters of

677
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:07.000
the Third Kind? For number seven? All right? Final two questions in

678
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:13.239
your final round Head to head Ben
Henry versus Kevin Walsh. Question number eight,

679
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:15.920
Name the three rivers that meet up
in Pittsburgh, PA. Pittsburgh,

680
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:22.000
Pennsylvania, the famous Three Rivers Stadium
of Pittsburgh where the Pirates played. Name

681
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.760
those three rivers. I need all
three of them for you to get the

682
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:30.119
two points for number eight. Again, spelling does not count against you.

683
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:42.000
A question number nine, The most
populous of the Clark Counties is in what

684
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.559
state? There's a number of Clark
counties in a number of states, But

685
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.559
I want to know what is the
most populous Clark County? What state is

686
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:55.440
that in? For number nine?
Your final question in round four US geography

687
00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:00.880
was your category in the double Duty
Radcliffe round? All right? This is

688
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:09.679
that Kevin, make the greatest comeback. Probably not all right, guys,

689
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:14.159
Let's go over your answers and the
US geography round here. Question number one

690
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.119
was what is the fourth largest state
in size at one hundred and forty seven

691
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.199
thousand plus square miles? Ben,
what did you put for number one?

692
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.480
That's Montana? Kevin? What did
you put from number one? I also

693
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:30.800
put Montana. The correct answer is
Hannah, Montana. You both get the

694
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.880
two points. It is Montana for
question number one. Question number two is

695
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.760
what the city is the home of
the Negro League Hall of Fame? Kevin,

696
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.559
do you have a guess? It
is a guess. It's a completely

697
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:44.679
wild guest. I just went with
Atlanta, Atlanta, great guest, Ben,

698
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:46.679
what did you put? Great minds
think alike? My guess is,

699
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:53.880
as you are both incorrect, I
want to go to this place. The

700
00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:00.400
Negro League Baseball Hall of Fame is
located known for their barbecue. Kansas City.

701
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:05.480
Kansas City, here I come.
Question number three. Mount Saint Helens

702
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:08.840
blew its top in nineteen eighty and
is part of what mountain range? Ben?

703
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:14.480
I believe this is the Cascades.
Kevin, what did you put?

704
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:19.280
That's my answer as well. The
Cascades You're both corrected. Is the Cascade

705
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:25.360
Range and the Pacific north Ust Question
number four, Mammoth Cave is in what

706
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:30.599
state? Kevin? You know?
I should I've heard this before. I

707
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.800
guess Kentucky. Ben, What did
you put? It is Kentucky? It

708
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.719
is the Bluegrass State, Kentucky,
Bourbon and Caves. Question number five?

709
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.559
What is the capital of New Hampshire? Mister Henry Conquered? Kevin Walsh?

710
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:49.840
What did you put? Well,
my fiance is from New Hampshire, so

711
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:52.039
if I got this wrong, I
wouldn't have a fiance anymore. Probably.

712
00:54:52.559 --> 00:55:00.559
I also put conquered named after those
that grape jelly. Concorde delicious is the

713
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.719
correct answer? Concord, New Hampshire
the capital city. Question number six,

714
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.599
what is the smallest of the Great
Lakes in terms of surface area? Kevin

715
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:12.199
Well, unlike some people on this
podcast, I don't live near the Great

716
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:17.039
Lake Great Lakes burd Bank. I
had to kind of trying to conjure mental

717
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:21.360
image. I went with Erie Erie
is your guests? Ben? What did

718
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:30.559
you put Ontario? The correct answer
is Lake Ontario. Question number seven,

719
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:35.519
I think you both had this in
your wheelhoe wheelhouse. What Wyoming Butte is

720
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:44.000
featured in Close Encounters of the Third
kind. Ben, this is Devil's Tower,

721
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.079
Kevin Walsh. Did you get Devil's
Tower. Yeah, my my fortieth

722
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:52.239
anniversary Close Encounters poster is just over
there tower. Where would it rank?

723
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:57.360
Is it in your top ten films
of all time? Close Encounters? Oh?

724
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:00.599
That's top top twenty five to twenty
five easily get okay, top twenty

725
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:04.800
five, easily is in there?
Okay, Close Encounters twenty okay, top

726
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.599
twenty Close Encounters. It is Devil's
Tower. Question number eight. Name the

727
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:15.000
three rivers that meet up in Pittsburgh
PAA steel City the terrible towels, Kevin

728
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:19.119
Walsh. I went the Delaware of
the Monogahela in the Susquehanna, Ben,

729
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:22.280
what did you put for the three
rivers? I had the Ohio, the

730
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:29.400
Alleghany, and the Mononghela. Now
a wagadoogu, but fairly close sounding to

731
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:36.440
those. We have the Ohio,
the Alleghany, and the Monongahela. The

732
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:40.360
Ohio, the Alleghany and the Monongahela
all converge and meet right there at that

733
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:46.559
crux of the beautiful city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Question number nine, our

734
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:52.960
final question, the most populous Clark
County in the United States is located in

735
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.920
what state? Ben? I said, Nevada. Kevin, what did you

736
00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:00.800
put for number nine? I put
Illinois. The correct answer is Nevada.

737
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.440
That is Las Vegas's big county.
So every time there's an election, they're

738
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:09.320
always like, we're waiting for Clark
County to come in. It is Nevada,

739
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:15.119
folks. We're doing the tabulations.
Ben with a very impressive win.

740
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:20.039
You are You are, without a
doubt, the smartest person in the world

741
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.960
for one week. Ben Henry beats
Kevin Walsh in their grudge match. Their

742
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:29.360
rematch. Well played, both of
you. That was super fun. So

743
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.079
the show's not over. The game
between you guys is over. We're gonna

744
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:37.400
give to your charities anyways. Pancreatic
Cancer Action Network and American Hardesty Association.

745
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:39.800
That's easy for me to say,
are both getting donations from you should know

746
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:45.559
better. So thanks for bringing those
great charities to the floor tonight. I

747
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:47.679
want to get to this story though, before we get to the final throwdown.

748
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:52.440
We're gonna take a little break because
Kevin has a great story that of

749
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:57.519
how his Jeopardy Tournament of Champions ended
in maybe the coolest fashion. Some of

750
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.440
you might know this story, but
some of you don't. So Kevin takeaway

751
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:05.079
what happened at the tail end of
your journey on Jeopardy. Well, this

752
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.719
is something that I was hoping to
do the first time I was on Jeopardy,

753
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:09.800
I was hoping to find some way
to do this, and the moment

754
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:15.400
never really presented itself. But when
I lost in the semi final of the

755
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.760
tournament champions, I said, I'm
never gonna have another chance to do this.

756
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:21.800
So as I was leaving the stage, I asked the content, the

757
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:25.840
contestant coordinator, the test producer,
their Koeena, if I could possibly use

758
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.719
the stage and just record a proposal
to my girlfriend, like just take my

759
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:36.519
phone and just recorded them as well, And she talked to the powers that

760
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.840
be while they were recording the next
semifinal and got back to me during one

761
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.480
of commercial breaks and said, okay, we're going to do it. So

762
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:49.239
when we broke for lunch and they
recorded a winner Circle interview with Jennifer who

763
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:51.519
just won her semifinal, and then
everybody else want to lunch, and I

764
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.440
stayed behind. They brought me up. They took me to the mark where

765
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:59.119
the host stands for Final Jeopardy,
they put up on the board as the

766
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:06.519
category the final question, and I
I got to propose to my girlfriend at

767
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:13.079
the time, and then came a
month of keeping it from her, trying

768
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:19.199
to arrange a zoom watch of the
episode with both of our parents, who

769
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.039
I clued into what was going to
happen. I had to enlist Ben and

770
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:29.719
the other members of the tournament cohort
who knew the score that for two things,

771
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.639
Hey, we were doing kind of
zoom trivia and I'm like, please,

772
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:38.079
everybody just be aware that Kate doesn't
know. And b since Jeopardy wanted

773
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:43.400
reaction footage, I had to spin
a whole lie about they asked us all

774
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:45.679
to record watch party footage, and
so I asked everybody, I said,

775
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:51.960
it comes up, just validate that
story's great. And then I had an

776
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:53.840
awkward situation where I was able to
tell our folks that was going to happen,

777
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:58.079
but I was not able to divulge
any of the results of the tournament.

778
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:00.880
So as far as they knew,
it was going to happen at the

779
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:06.000
quarterfinal game. But because of the
nature of the video where I give away

780
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:09.559
that I'm at at the tournament.
Jeopardy released the video until the next week,

781
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:12.280
so I couldn't do it that night, and so there was a very

782
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.079
awkward end to that evening where I
was basically like, well see next week,

783
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:19.719
I guess, and the Terns were
like, okay. I thought there

784
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.480
was going to be a proposal anyway, though. It was an awkward four

785
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.960
days, but we managed to get
to Tuesday and she was genuinely surprised and

786
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:32.119
she said, what is Yes,
she answered in the form of a question

787
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:37.880
like a true Jeopardy lover Jeopardy nerd. So for Jeopardy to allow her to

788
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:43.119
kind of be a part of the
show in that way very special to do

789
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:47.920
both of us. You gotta get
her. I'm working on it. Yeah,

790
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:52.760
she's next, She's got to get
on the show. But yeah,

791
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:54.480
again, like I hope this is
just the start of more of this,

792
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:58.599
and again I want to get Like
Jimmy and Sarah from the Clue Crew,

793
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:00.039
I think it would be really great
to have that on to tell their tale

794
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.800
of having the coolest job for the
last twenty years of traveling the globe and

795
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:07.679
being with Alex that much, and
Johnny Gilbert and the crew, and yeah,

796
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.719
just so that they we can see
them outside of you know, them

797
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.880
just telling us you know what a
Bunsen burner is or you know the Bavarian

798
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:21.119
chocolate they're eating part too. Are
just two awesome people. There's like everybody

799
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:22.239
they're a Jeffrey as you mentioned,
it is very cool, but Jimmy and

800
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.559
Sarah you know, handling the contestants
in between, and kind of incredible.

801
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:31.480
They're just amazing people. Yeah,
really really supportive and warm and nice.

802
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:35.480
Then again, yeah, that that
place is a well oiled machine, but

803
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:39.519
they have just incredible, gracious,
lovely people that make it an even better

804
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:45.000
experience than you expect, and your
expectations are through the roof. So all

805
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.400
right, we're not done with the
show. We still have the final Throwdown.

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The Final Throwdown. This is where
me and Ben go head to head

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now on a producer's question. Our
producer Annie has come up with a one

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off question. It could be anything, it could be totally bs where we

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both don't get it, we both
get it right, one of us gets

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it right. It's just a fun
little thing where I get to play at

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one time during this whole thing.
So this is the final Throwdown. Me

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against Tournament of Champions Alumni and teachers
Tournament champion Ben Henry. So Annie's gonna

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share her screen and Ben, you
get first dibbs since you're our guests.

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So we'll see if we can get
this up here. All right, here

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is the question. I will say
it. I'll read it to you,

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Benjamin, for all of our listeners
at home. Who was the first female

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to win multiple Grammy Awards? Who
was the first female to win multiple Grammy

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Awards? Can I ask for clarification? Sure? Is this in the same

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awards ceremony or over the course of
their career, like they won multiple in

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the same night, or they won
multiples over the course of their career?

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The first female to win multiple awards
on the same night at the Grammys.

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All right, so, I you
know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go away

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from my first instinct and I'm gonna
go and I'm gonna say Whitney Houston.

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Whitney Houston, the first woman to
win multiple Grammys on the same night.

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I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
just way off the beaten path. I'm

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gonna go a lot earlier. I
don't know why I'm doing this, I

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don't know what I'm thinking, but
I'm gonna go with Ella Fitzgerald. That

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was one of the ones I was
thinking, Ella Fitzgerald, I'm gonna go

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with. So she Annie's gonna reveal
her answer. We have, the correct

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answer is Ella Fitzgerald. Ben,
You're still the smartest man in the world

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for one week, but I beat
you in the so I got I got

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a little little street cred for forgetting
that one right. It is good for

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you. The first Lady of Song, Ella Fitzgerald. So here's some tidbits

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about miss Ella, the Queen of
scat too. The first Grammys took place

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in nineteen fifty eight, which Fitzgerald
won Best Vocal Performance Female and Best Jazz

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Performance Individual. Overall, she won
a total of thirteen Grammys over her career.

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She is the first woman to receive
Grammy's Lifetime Achievement Award. I did

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not know that. And additionally,
she was the first woman to perform at

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the Grammys in nineteen fifty nine.
So Ella did all the stuff at the

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Grammys. So now we know that
going forward, if there's a female Grammy's

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question, we're all gonna know that
Alla Fitzgerald is a great. Guess.

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01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:30.719
Well, Kevin, I'm curious what
would you have said? Were you thinking

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a third person or one of the
ones we chose? I was, but

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it was wrong. I was.
I was going to throw it into James.

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01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:40.800
Oh that is a James. That's
another name that pumped in my head.

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01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.159
That's a good one. Yeah,
I didn't know what I thought.

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01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:45.039
Maybe Billy Holliday, and then I
thought made Dolly Parton. But then I

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was like country music. I happened
at the first award ceremony. Yeah,

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they did get it right, I
guess from the start. Yeah, they

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01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:56.840
got it right right away. Shame
on me for not having more faith in

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the Grammys again, guys, Ben
Henry having Walsh Um, we're we're going

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to make some donations to the Pancreatic
Cancer Action Network for Alex Trebek in memory

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01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:12.000
of our dear departed friend Alex Trebeck
in the American Heart Association. It couldn't

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01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.440
have been more fun having you guys
here. I hope, well we'll have

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01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:17.719
you back and have more Jeopardy champs
come back. But this was just a

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01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:20.559
thrill. So thanks so much for
being here. Thank you, Mike.

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I was having such a good day
today and I really needed to be brought

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01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:28.320
back down to earth. So thank
you, thank you for kee beating me

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01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:31.480
out. Yeah, yep, you
were on your high horse coming into this,

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and I really was. I was
talking a lot of trash. No,

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it was great. I hope you
had fun, and I hope you

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01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:42.559
guys would would would would come back
if you had enough enough fun. So

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01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.840
yeah, absolutely, yeah, this
was a lot of fun. I want

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all in this together, and in
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01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:14.480
long everybody, You Should Know Better. As produced by Annie Roberts and myself

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01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.440
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