WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:08.359 Bundlish Authenticity Podcast. Hello and welcome back to the Star Family Wisdom Podcast. 2 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:12.480 I'm Jenna Leyden, your host, the founder of Star Family Wisdom, and 3 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:17.120 I'm also a former global vice president for Whole Foods Market And it's been a 4 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:24.719 profound spiritual and transformation journey that led me to this place having these sorts of 5 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:32.640 conversations with you and incredible guests. Star Family Wisdom is a paradigm shifting podcast 6 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:40.039 community and modern day mystery school for your spiritual and cosmic evolution. We're here 7 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:44.479 to help you get initiated into the mysteries of the universe, help you transform, 8 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.880 help you heal, help you come back into your connection with yourself, 9 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:55.200 with your Star Family your guides, and experience our multi dimensional reality in a 10 00:00:55.240 --> 00:01:02.079 new way. And today's episode is a special one. You continue to just 11 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:08.079 encounter so many new soul family connections here on Earth, so it's like our 12 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:15.280 Star Family is helping me get connected to and meet all of the right people 13 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:23.079 at just the right time. And Jahan Satour is our guest today. Jahan 14 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:30.000 is also someone who has experienced profound past life recall. The recall of past 15 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:36.840 lives that are connected to Star Family off Earth, and part of Jahan's mission 16 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:42.079 is being a cognitive behavioral therapist, a hypnotherapist, a nutrition coach, a 17 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:49.239 mindfulness teacher, and expert, and he focuses specifically on subconscious self sabotage. 18 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:57.640 So Jahan has studied the mind in depth, and this is a topic I'm 19 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.480 passionate about because it's been a big, big part of my transformation experience, 20 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:08.560 learning how the subconscious mind works, understanding our programming, understanding what is driving 21 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:15.759 our experience of reality. So Jahan assists people in all walks of life in 22 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:23.439 how to be fully mindful and allow negative automatic thoughts about the events of our 23 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:29.240 external reality and the programs that we take on to reveal themselves so that new 24 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.800 patterns can be established and people can learn to operate from a place of peace 25 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:39.080 and purpose and passion. And a lot of Jahan's work focuses on removing those 26 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:46.800 disempowering thoughts and beliefs and helps you get you know better emotional control and helps 27 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:53.800 you experience you know better emotional circumstances as you do that. And Jahan really 28 00:02:54.240 --> 00:03:02.599 focuses with clients on how to get them over that of going from disempowering beliefs 29 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:07.800 to an empowered state of being. As he said in the conversation, he 30 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:13.240 wants people to leave his office, his virtual office, as quickly as possible. 31 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.960 He wants people to be empowered, and so this conversation is all about 32 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:22.199 that. And Jahan has a special skill for language and really tuning in to 33 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:28.960 our language patterns and how that reveals where our blocks, our trauma, our 34 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:38.240 negative programming might be stemming from. So check out Jahansatur at Jahansatur dot com. 35 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:42.080 We've got his links below, and you can also check him out on 36 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:49.159 the Boundless Authenticity podcast where you get your podcast apps or on YouTube, and 37 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.879 you can check out my recent episode with him on his podcast. And that 38 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.759 was a fun episode where I was having a bad day, like I was 39 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:01.840 going through some transformation on that day, and instead of self sabotaging, which 40 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:09.280 I almost did, instead of canceling on Jayhan, I decided I need to 41 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:13.639 just be authentic and show what's going on and talk about it. So we 42 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:17.680 did that, and then in today's episode we go really deep on all aspects 43 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:25.160 of the subconscious mind and again how we transform and get our minds and our 44 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:30.680 neural networks into a different place. So enjoy this episode with Jahann and I'll 45 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.199 see you on the other side. Hi, Johan, Welcome, it's so 46 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:38.959 good to have you. Thanks for having me on with you. Jannon, 47 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:41.720 Oh, it's so good to have you on the show. We have so 48 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:48.920 much to talk about, and we want to talk kind of broadly about your 49 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:57.160 work in self sabotage, your work and mindfulness, your work in meditation and 50 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:03.040 mindset coaching, but you all also have some really interesting star family connections that 51 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.560 we want to talk about as well. So so you know, I think 52 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:13.160 this is going to be a really cool, well rounded conversation for our audience. 53 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:16.279 It's you know, important to me that when we're getting really cosmic and 54 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:21.959 out there with our journeys and exploration, that we're also keeping it grounded. 55 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:29.079 So I really appreciate that you bring that approach. So before we get into 56 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.759 all the things, I want to just open it up to hear a little 57 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:38.560 bit about how you got to this point. How did you even get to 58 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:46.319 being a mindset and self sabotage expert, cognitive behavioral therapist specialist, you know, 59 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.519 how did you even get into this sort of work? What led you 60 00:05:49.560 --> 00:06:02.079 here? How much time do you have so I was a professional music for 61 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.480 so many years of my life. I started young. I started at fourteen, 62 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:12.959 playing my first shows on stage, and I got catapulted into the world 63 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.879 of sex, drugs, and rock and roll at a very early age. 64 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:24.319 I'm talking sixteen seventeen. So I started drinking and smoking pod and that led 65 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:29.879 to harder drugs and things like that. I'd had a lot of stuff going 66 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.560 on at homes, especially coming from my dad and my sister and stuff who 67 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:42.519 were very verbally abusive and manipulative and things like that. So I didn't know 68 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.199 how to deal with any of that. And back then, if you said 69 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:53.079 that someone was doing a particular set of things to you at home, you'd 70 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.600 get gas lit by your friends and family. They'd be like, oh, 71 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.879 no, not him. So I didn't know what to do with any of 72 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:02.759 that, and I guess I got stuck in a mind trap. Music took 73 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:09.600 me a lot of different places, and I was in such a low vibration 74 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:15.079 that I didn't know that good things were actually happening all around me in terms 75 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:23.560 of my career and stuff. So fortunately, after having a few really bad 76 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:29.319 experiences trying to overdose, just listening to the voices in my head, which 77 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:34.279 I actually think were entity attachments and stuff. Well, I should say think 78 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:38.959 I know they were. That makes sense that when we're in that really low 79 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:46.560 vibrational state, like that's when they attach. Yeah. Yeah. So, 80 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.040 after dealing with a lot of different things that led me down the road of 81 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:55.480 trying to take my own life a few times, I finally felt an actual 82 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:00.680 shift. Because I don't want to cuss on your show, but I actually 83 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.439 was like, wow, I can't even kill myself right, And the instant 84 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:11.959 I heard myself say that sentence out loud, something changed. It's hard to 85 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.079 really describe what that feeling was, but it was like a full body sensation. 86 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:22.680 I just went A light was on. So I started getting interested in 87 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:31.080 how can I better myself and those kinds of entity attachments, those lower states 88 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:39.080 you tend to reject anything that's positive. But because what I said out loud 89 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:46.600 came with such a profound feeling, opportunities that were completely opposite to what I'd 90 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:52.879 known before started coming to me. So books started showing up, and one 91 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:56.279 was a book by Sylvia Brown, The Psychic, and then it was other 92 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:01.159 things like Robert Green books and things like that, And I was so eager 93 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:07.960 to learn that. That just kind of took me on a journey of bettering 94 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:11.559 myself, and I traveled to Nashville, Tennessee to learn all about the music 95 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:16.200 industry and be a part of that. And things changed for me there because 96 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:24.559 I got exposed to the New Age spirituality at first, and then that changed 97 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:31.720 my life because I started really meditating then. And fast forward a couple of 98 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:37.879 years to being at a gig somewhere and this really tall guy walks up to 99 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:41.840 me and I'm talking to the sound engineer and I'm telling the guy, you 100 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:45.440 know, and plug this in over here. This guy's got to be over 101 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.000 here. The drummer should be doing this, you know, all these different 102 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:56.720 things. It's probably Boston, the guy around right. And this really tall, 103 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:00.720 blonde hair guy with blue eyes taps me on the shoulder, and I 104 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.679 mean, somebody looking at it must have been hilarious because I was kind of 105 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.039 like, what, you know, like he was that tall. I'm a 106 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:11.759 sure guy. Anyways, So he says, I notice you have a tremendous 107 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.720 affinity for leadership. Have you ever heard of coaching? And I was like, 108 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.000 now, hold on a second. I finished barking orders at the sound 109 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.039 guy. I turned back to the guy to say, hey, tell me 110 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:26.000 more about what you were saying, and he was gone. I searched the 111 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.639 entire bar for this guy. He was gone, and I thought of myself, 112 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.480 why would he just disappear like that? Who the hell says? Have 113 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.639 you ever heard of coaching? And then you dip like, right, that's 114 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:45.600 a weirdo thing to do. It's a very strange thing. So I went 115 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.440 home immediately. I just typed it in and then you know, stuff like 116 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:52.200 personal trainers came up and I saw Tony Robbins. I was like, hey, 117 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:58.039 I know that guy. So that's how I got involved in the coaching 118 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.840 aspect, and all of the with that comes along with that changed me for 119 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:07.600 the better because it got me curious. It got me aware of a different 120 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:13.600 world that was out there than what I'd known before, and it resonated on 121 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.720 such a high level that I just haven't looked back since then. And that 122 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:24.440 was ten years ago. Wow. Wow, what a beautiful transformation and divine 123 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:31.559 intervention. It sounds like, do you associate those moments back then of being 124 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:39.559 able to start down this new path and have that strength that willpower to do 125 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.080 that, and that man showing up, like, do you associate that with 126 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.039 divine intervention. I'll tell you what. There's a few things that I didn't 127 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.919 say, and it was on purpose because I was hoping you would ask me. 128 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:58.799 The first time that I tried to commit suicide, nothing happened. I 129 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:03.440 came back. I was really sick for like two weeks, and then I 130 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.360 got back on my feet. But then I went back down that dark path 131 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.559 again. But I knew something wasn't quite right with the way that I felt 132 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:15.799 that first time, so something changed. Then the second time I tried it. 133 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:20.279 It was because I still couldn't see a way out of anything, and 134 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.039 it was clear to me by then that nobody around me was interested in helping 135 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:30.000 me with my problems, which made it harder. And my dog woke me 136 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.240 up. He's gone now, he passed around this time last year, but 137 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:37.759 he was one of my guardians. He was sent here to protect me. 138 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:43.159 I found that out later. So he jumps on the bed and he puts 139 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.200 his paws on my face. He starts scratching my face and I could actually 140 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:52.120 feel myself slipping away. Oh, I feel my legs getting numb and everything. 141 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.759 And he started whimpering and scratching it. It started to hurt so bad 142 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.840 that it jarred me from that state. So I came back with him looking 143 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:05.080 at me and looking in my face and all kinds of stuff like that, 144 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:11.320 and I rolled off the side of the bed. And I was sick for 145 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:20.240 another few weeks or so again, and then again things seemed different, but 146 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:26.000 I just couldn't quite put my finger on what that was. So each time, 147 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:30.080 the very last time, the third time after that was a couple of 148 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:33.279 months after that. Still couldn't see a way out, Still couldn't figure out 149 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.360 what was different, what to do next, where to go, wasn't getting 150 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.720 any help. Friends weren't talking to me anymore. They thought I was kind 151 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:48.960 of crazy, to be honest. And all I had were these books and 152 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:56.840 my guitar, basically my only friend. And I was out, actually, 153 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.399 and I overdosed and I went into this dark, murky space. And so 154 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:07.039 all the cool kids are calling that a near death experience, right. I 155 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.519 didn't see any fancy lights or anything like that. It was just a dark, 156 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:15.000 brown, murky space. And I could tell that there were like what 157 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.480 I now know are some kinds of beings were around me. I could see 158 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:24.519 them in the corners of my vision and stuff like that, and there was 159 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.840 a frequency noise. I can't describe it, but that's all I heard. 160 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:37.879 All I know is is that I was out for maybe forty five minutes or 161 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.200 longer. Wow. And I came back in and I felt that feeling of 162 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:46.159 being sucked right back into the top of my head. And this time I 163 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:52.080 wasn't sick. Nothing happened. I just went about my day as normal. 164 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.879 I slept really long that night, and I was tired for like the next 165 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:01.399 week, but I didn't feel unwell or anything like that. Like something completely 166 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:05.960 changed, and I paid attention to that, but I still said what I 167 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.000 said. I still said, you know, I can't even kill myself, 168 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.639 right, what's going on? And that kind of was the key that unlocked 169 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:20.759 the door because the instant I said that. Within three days, actually we 170 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:26.320 were saying at number three. Within three days, books started showing up. 171 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:31.039 People were like, hey, you should read this book, and Aaron Beck's 172 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:37.080 book Prisoners of Hate. Aaron Beck is one of the founding fathers of cognitive 173 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.480 behavioral therapy. So I like to say CBT saved my life, actually, 174 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.559 and it was just the ideas in that book led to me getting fit, 175 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:52.799 led to me quitting all my other musical projects. And it turns out that 176 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.279 that stuff was holding me back because as soon as I cut ties with that, 177 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:58.919 then the next thing, you know, I was into manifesting territory. 178 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:06.639 Yeah. I started, well, I should say I was working out and 179 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:08.559 i'd run on the treadmill and I'd think of all the things that I wanted 180 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.559 to do. You know, when you're when you're running like that, you're 181 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:17.000 in the zero point because you're not thinking of anything else. Yeah, and 182 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.639 for what you can put your your focus on, right, and you're generating 183 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:25.759 a lot of energy too at the same time exactly. So at the highest 184 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:32.399 points of I guess running and stuff, i'd feel the surge of what I 185 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:36.399 thought was adrenaline going through my body. But I didn't know that I was 186 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:41.120 manifesting a whole new reality right and drawing that towards me. And so that 187 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.200 was when a lady showed up out of nowhere and she's like, hey, 188 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:48.480 I love your music. Is there anything I can do to help you? 189 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:49.279 It's like, yeah, I get me out of here. She was like, 190 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.559 well, I can't do that, but I own a gym and my 191 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:57.679 friend is this person I FBD pro bodybuilder and she sends me workout plans like 192 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:03.160 a couple of huns ndred dollars worth of supplements and stuff. She trained me 193 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.880 for free. Oh wow. She'd call me up yeah and tell me everything 194 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.720 I need to do. Then after that another lady showed up. She's like, 195 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:12.839 Hey, I'm from a radio station over here, and you know, 196 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.240 do you have a manager? Can I help you with anything? I was 197 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.359 like, yeah, you can help me with everything. And so that's how 198 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:23.200 I got my opportunity to get out of here and go to Nashville. And 199 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:29.960 so it just kind of threw me on what I think it was a redirection 200 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:37.519 of some divine intervention that threw me on this journey on purpose, including a 201 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:40.319 tall, blonde hair, blue eyed guy tapping me on the shower saying, 202 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:44.680 hey, have you ever heard of coaching? You know, it's all so 203 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:52.519 incredible, you know, these moments that emerge from that darkness, and I 204 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:57.519 just want to honor you and your experiences and your journey for a moment and 205 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:02.920 just applause you, you know, for the strength you had to to go 206 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:08.559 down that path of exploration and wellness and look at look at you now, 207 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:14.480 you know, I mean, you're such an example of what's possible and and 208 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.759 I think that's such a beautiful thing to share with the world. So I 209 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:25.640 just so appreciate your vulnerability and authenticity. Speaking of your podcast, Boundless Authenticity. 210 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:29.599 Thank you. You know, I think that's it's so important to have 211 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.799 these conversations and and that that moment of questioning, you know, it's like 212 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:40.599 that moment of you know, maybe not even asking for help necessarily, but 213 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.640 even just questioning reality. You know, like just questioning like what's going on 214 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:51.400 here. It's like that can be that trigger for you know, the the 215 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:55.319 beings, the team. You know that that is you know, part of 216 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:59.720 us to to swoop in and start to help in some way, to help 217 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.480 to help break through the illusion. Yeah, you know, thank you for 218 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:10.000 seeing me first of all. But you know that's the dualistic nature of things. 219 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:14.640 The darkness always imposes itself on you, but the light is waiting on 220 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.279 you to ask for help, or waiting on you to demonstrate a willingness to 221 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:22.240 change. That's why I love to tell everybody. Until your desire to change 222 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.119 is greater than your desire to stay the same, nothing's going to break through 223 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:32.680 for you, and something as simple as a thought like there has to be 224 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:36.640 something more than this can as well be dualistic. It can keep you in 225 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:41.039 darkness where it can lead you to the light, you know, and I 226 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:47.640 experienced both ends of the spectrum with that, right, Yeah, yeah, 227 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:52.079 wow, that the being the man, whoever that was, who showed up. 228 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.880 You know that. We hear lots of stories about, you know, 229 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:03.640 people in these moments of crossroads or you know, major life events or danger, 230 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:10.799 some person showing up out of the blue in a split moment with some 231 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:14.599 helpful comment, some helpful you know, physical action, whatever it is, 232 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.240 and then poof, they're gone, you know, like there are so many 233 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.799 stories like that. I just want to pause on that for a moment for 234 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.440 the audience, because I think that to me, you know, I had 235 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:29.319 chills the whole time you were talking, and and you know, I'm tuned 236 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:33.279 in enough now to feel truth, you know, to feel you know, 237 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.240 what's under the surface, and it it feels to me like like that was 238 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.359 divine intervention. That was divine intervention, Like that was an angel, that 239 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.920 was a being from somewhere else who took physical form for a moment to support 240 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:51.279 you. Yeah, that was a nudge. I mean I jokingly say all 241 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:52.880 the time, like, nobody's talking to me, like guides and stuff. 242 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:57.119 Don't talk to me the way that they talk to other people. But the 243 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:02.720 reason for that is because that's not my dominant sensibility. So I'm not you 244 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.759 know, I'm probably just not listening. They move stuff around in the physical 245 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:11.920 environment for me, or they bring people to me, and I am smart 246 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.160 enough to know to pay attention, you know, like not everybody's got guides 247 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.039 and stuff. They're like, hey, dude, you're doing this right, 248 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:23.359 you know. You know everybody has that luxury. Yeah, people have you 249 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:26.759 know, they have to interact with the physical world a little bit more and 250 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.799 look for those synchronicities to work with them, you know. Yeah, that's 251 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.680 such an example of how they're all all around, you know, when we 252 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:38.240 are just open to receiving them. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's so true. 253 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:42.880 They all they're always all around. Yeah. I want to I want 254 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:51.319 to talk a little bit about cognitive behavioral therapy and and and how how that, 255 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:53.880 you know, helped you in this this shift, because I haven't even 256 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.799 really talked about it with our audience or with you. I think that That 257 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:02.720 was a really critical part of me coming out of my darkness, when I 258 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:11.599 first started waking up spiritually and and and started gaining this awareness of how destructive 259 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:17.519 my mindset was for myself and and just how how negative and how how I 260 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:22.640 would go down these really negative spirals really easily. And and so I just 261 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:27.440 I want to highlight that for a moment, And how you just explain, 262 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:33.200 you know, what is it? And and how do you now or how 263 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:36.319 did you use it then to help yourself, you know, kind of over 264 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:40.599 this this hurdle, And then how do you use it now with clients? 265 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.640 Oh, first of all, let me hit you with some quotes. We 266 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:49.319 love a good quote. Ernest Hemingway said you can't get away from yourself by 267 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:55.319 moving from one geographical place to another. That was a lesson that I learned 268 00:22:55.799 --> 00:23:02.720 everywhere I went there. I was, so I kind of kind of I 269 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:11.559 kind of took the Aaron Beck book as a point of awareness for myself. 270 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:17.240 When I say that, I mean it made me aware the extent of other 271 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:22.079 people's darkness. And not very many people can honestly look at their lives and 272 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.200 be like, oh, well, my life's not as bad as that, 273 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:29.400 And then begin to change. Because of that, a lot of people want 274 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:30.799 to stay with the ego and say, oh, well, they don't know 275 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:37.559 what they're talking about, and continue to validate that. And that's kind of 276 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:44.480 what got me started and got me looking with new eyes, as Marcel Proust 277 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:52.000 would say, you know. And then I began getting very interested in what 278 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:59.680 actually is cognitive behavioral therapy, what are the processes involved? So I started 279 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.960 reading things like there's a book called CBT for anxiety and things like that. 280 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.480 I was an anxious person as well, me too, big time. Yeah, 281 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:11.000 And as you know, anxiety and depression tend to hang out together, 282 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:15.000 yep. I had that when one goes away, the other shows up and 283 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:21.400 says, hey, I heard you were lonely. And I had to work 284 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:25.799 my way through that. And I realized that what I learned in those textbooks, 285 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:30.359 it was so clinical that it just didn't have any real substance to it 286 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:36.200 at all. Actually, So I decided that I was going to go take 287 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.440 a course in it, take a class in it, you know, And 288 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:44.160 once I realized how it worked, I was like, this is brilliant. 289 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:48.160 Everything is going to be good from now on because now I've got the tool 290 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:53.960 that I need, and I simplified it for myself. It's A plus B 291 00:24:55.119 --> 00:25:00.279 equals C. A is the activating event or the trigger, B is your 292 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:06.400 belief, and C is the emotional consequence. So A plus B equals C 293 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:12.359 and the consequence is as a result of what you believe about the event. 294 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.279 And once I started walking around all day long, every day asking myself the 295 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.640 same question, Okay, what is it I believe about this and actually listen 296 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.680 to the chatter in my head and saying, okay, well I'm going to 297 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:30.640 ask you some more questions mm hm, things opened up for me. And 298 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:37.200 the meditation is what helped with that as well, because through the meditation I 299 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:42.519 could take things down a notch and get some clarity to actually hear my true 300 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:48.960 spiritual self, which is the thing that appears to be under attack twenty four 301 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:53.160 to seven from everything in the external world. Right yeah, yeah, It's 302 00:25:53.240 --> 00:26:03.839 like our world is heavily designed to support the ego flourishing and to support us 303 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:11.000 going down those those darker paths of thought. I think that the whole idea 304 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:15.920 of like challenging yourself is really cool. You know, like once you kind 305 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.519 of gained that awareness and you're like, wait a second, hold on here, 306 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.640 hold on here, let me ask myself some questions about these beliefs. 307 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.559 I had a similar experience where I almost got mad, Like once, once 308 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.680 I found some of this information, I was like, whoa, why am 309 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.400 I? Like? How did I get this way? You know, Like, 310 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.000 why am I, you know, believing all these negative things when actually 311 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:45.880 there's a flip side, there's you know, the positive possibilities, you know, 312 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.720 and all of the positive what ifs, you know, I could be 313 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.160 thinking about it. It kind of fired me up, Like did you feel 314 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.640 that way too? Were you? Like, I'm going to get to the 315 00:26:55.640 --> 00:27:00.759 bottom of this now that I've now that I've got the keys. Yeah, 316 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:07.079 it made me pick up the shovel and start digging. Really and if you 317 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:14.160 dig long enough, you'll find some beliefs and they are shocking. It's shocking 318 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.319 what lies under the surface, just waiting for you to address, you know. 319 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:21.200 So yeah I did, and I used that anger. In fact, 320 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:25.519 I tell my clients you've got to get to a point where you feel anger, 321 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:29.519 because if you look at the Hawking scale of consciousness, angers right before 322 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.400 the willingness, that's the breakthrough, right yep. And then it goes up 323 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.000 to neutrality, and then it goes all the way up to the good stuff 324 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.160 like love and enlightenment and things like that. Right, So you even in 325 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:47.559 the psychological model the change curve by Elizabeth Kogler ross Anger is a necessary step 326 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:53.279 to moving towards, you know, the things that you want. So it 327 00:27:53.400 --> 00:28:00.920 did become new fire to propel me, and I never gave upon myself. 328 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:06.279 You know, that's the key. You can't expect anybody else in this world 329 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:11.039 to really invest that much interest in you, because unfortunately, the average person 330 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.079 is only interested in one thing, and that's themselves. Everybody's got a full 331 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.839 plate, you know. The sooner we understand that and not take it as 332 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.119 a personal attack and realize we've got to do it, We've got to do 333 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.119 the thing, it gets a little bit easier to be honest. Yeah. 334 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.759 Yeah, it's like that's self responsibility piece. You know, It's like we 335 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.799 we all want to be there for each other, but also also we're responsible 336 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:41.440 and should should be able to pick up the mantle and and do the work. 337 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.039 Yeah, that's that's what we've got to do, because ultimately, no 338 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:45.920 one's going to do it for us. Yeah, someone might provide us the 339 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:52.720 tools and help and books and you know, hold space for us. But 340 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:59.480 then we go home to ourselves and we have to arrive at insight. Yeah, 341 00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.440 the site builds upon insight until we reach wisdom. But we get the 342 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.640 wisdom from applying the insight, right, right, We have to do it 343 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.359 on our own. And and you know, you can listen to the best 344 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.799 podcast, you can read the best book, and you can have the best 345 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:22.039 gurus or best psychologists or whatever. But when you are by yourself, are 346 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.559 you actually following through with your word? Are you are you staying in integrity 347 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:32.480 with yourself? Are you keeping yourself in check? That's how we get to 348 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:36.440 wellness, That's how we get to spiritual insight, That's how we access the 349 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:41.200 levels. And everything on the outside, like I already said, is designed 350 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.720 to keep us under a thumb on purpose. That's the point of Earth School, 351 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:52.559 right rights, can you spy the light? You know? Well, 352 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.160 it's like that. The egos also designed to keep us in this experience of 353 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.400 separation too, you know, it's it's and because of where we're at and 354 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:04.480 our evolution on Earth, it kind of seems like because we're at this point 355 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:10.000 where these sorts of breakthroughs are so much more possible for us now, where 356 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:15.319 we're able to gain awareness about the programming we've taken on and the negativity of 357 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.720 our culture and all of that. It's it's almost like our egos individually and 358 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.039 collectively are just fighting that. You know, They're like, no, no, 359 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.880 don't see the truth. Don't see the truth, don't go there. 360 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.400 And so there's also this like when you're kind of at that point of breakthrough 361 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:36.400 for some people, you know, I recognize there's also this this like pull 362 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:41.799 from the ego to come up with every excuse it will come up with to 363 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.119 not allow you to do your practices or follow through on you know, your 364 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:51.440 new beliefs whatever that is. How do you help people through that? Because 365 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:56.279 there is that very real, like beginning stage of implementing new practices, changing 366 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:03.039 your beliefs, shifting your programming that does require that follow through that practice. 367 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.759 And when the ego starts acting up and you know, acting like a child 368 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.839 and not wanting you know, to follow through with you like, how do 369 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:17.799 you help your clients through that stage of transformation? You nailed it. It's 370 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:23.359 a tug of war, it really is. And besides the CBT thing I 371 00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:30.960 really got involved in hypnotherapy because when you studied life coaching and stuff, they 372 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.079 tell you, yeah, the subconscious mind's doing ninety five percent of the stuff 373 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.200 for you. They show you the Iceberg model, but then to get away 374 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.960 from it very quickly, and they never say, Okay, well, what 375 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.279 is in that ninety five percent, right, and how do you change it? 376 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:52.960 Exactly? And so self sabotage is that thing that we do subconsciously for 377 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.319 the majority of our lives until we become aware of the fact that we can 378 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:02.119 self sabotage our best attempts. And that's where people get stuck because when they 379 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.319 get to the point where they know, Okay, I am the only person 380 00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.000 here that's messing up my whole life. How do I change that? They 381 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:14.839 panic because they don't know how to do anything about that. Yeah, and 382 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:20.839 scary place to be like that, Like that that is like this really uncomfortable 383 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.119 moment to be in. I've had a lot of those moments. Yeah, 384 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:28.279 you've got to get really good at knowing when you're about to self sabotage. 385 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:37.119 And what happens with clients is they just don't know how to do the things 386 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:44.359 that they don't know how to do. They don't realize that we're all in 387 00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:50.240 different states of hypnosis all day long. That's what makes the Earth School thing 388 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.839 such a terrible thing at first, because until you know for a certainty that 389 00:32:54.880 --> 00:33:00.759 you're hypnotized all the time, and that even and if that's just a function 390 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:09.039 of the brain needing to go into alpha brain wave for seven hours every day 391 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:15.799 to process all the information, I like to say that the conscious mind is 392 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:20.519 just there to keep us from bumping into stuff. And that's just about all 393 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.279 there is to it, you know, Like it's really I don't want to 394 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.160 say, I don't want to say that it's useless, but it really does 395 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:32.640 have like a very low usability features. It's kind of like a number fourteen 396 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.480 spanner or something. You can only turn nuts that size, you know, 397 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.839 you can only turn both sides right well. And this is like the paradox 398 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.319 of it too, you know, because it's like we think we're conscious, 399 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:51.680 right, think we think we are running the show, but it's it's kind 400 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:55.720 of like our brain's actually a computer and it's just running. It's just running 401 00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.400 a program. Our body is just running a program exactly, and it's just 402 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:05.000 one program after the next, all day long. So what happens to people 403 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:10.199 is that your level of safety is determined by the external world and they aren't 404 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.559 yet rooted inside of themselves. So as I love to say, the human 405 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:21.199 body is the technology. All this this stuff that we have, like, 406 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.320 that's not technology. That's nothing compared to what the human body can do, 407 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:32.519 right, and it never will reach that point. So it's just something that 408 00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:37.360 we have that is a vehicle for the expression of our consciousness. And we're 409 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:43.559 told from the time we are born that we don't have any power. You 410 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.599 know, you can't you can't do all those things that you think you can 411 00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:51.119 do. And when we're you know, five six years old, we're having 412 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:57.679 all of these experiences and interacting with the home vibration, the frequencies that those 413 00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:01.079 realities and our parent and tell us that we're crazy essentially, you know. 414 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:06.880 So that's the kind of the kind of reality that we're brought up in it 415 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:12.440 and it's our responsibility throughout our lives to kind of note that and say, 416 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.760 wait a minute, this keeps happening. But unfortunately we get programmed with things 417 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:21.000 like I'm not good enough, I'm not safe. Somehow I don't understand what 418 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:27.239 it feels like to be loved and supported by the creator. We get programmed 419 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:37.599 with resentment, rejection. We just continue to bump our heads against the threshold 420 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:43.559 of joy and success. Yeah, every chance we get, and we don't 421 00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:47.159 know it's coming from all things that happened, not just in zero to six 422 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:53.280 years old, lived before that, right and ancestral trauma, you know, 423 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:59.800 because it's like whatever programming has existed on Earth for all of our ancestors, 424 00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.920 and this, you know, a few thousand years of patriarchy that has existed, 425 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.960 Like we're taking on all of that too. So it's like we're we're 426 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:12.559 digging out of something big here. And I think that's also important to acknowledge 427 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.760 for people, because this is big work. You know. It's it's not 428 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:22.519 as easy as just awakening spiritually and poof. You know, you're you're you're 429 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.800 healed, You're you're you're living this life of love, joy and prosperity. 430 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:32.000 You know, we're we're having to dig out of multi generational, thousands of 431 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:39.800 years of distorted programming, a distorted reality essentially. Mm hmm. That's absolutely 432 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:44.320 correct. You're just talking about what I what I like to call the history 433 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:51.039 level. That's all the past lives or genetic memory that's in the collective consciousness, 434 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.239 you know. And I love to use the example of the past three 435 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:59.880 years we just went through a lot of people reacted to that situation really bad 436 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:06.239 because they remember other times. It's in our DNA too, yeah, yeah, 437 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.559 and they don't they don't realize. They think that their responses were perfectly 438 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.320 rational and perfectly normal, but really it's just our replaying of stuff that they 439 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:21.480 experienced before. So we have that stuff that happens all the time. You 440 00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.280 know, we do crazy stuff in our lives because in a past life we 441 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.960 did it too, and it got us results then, you know, So 442 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.159 we can't just I guess what I'm going with this is, we can't just 443 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:38.920 shove everything into the childhood trauma box right right right, Yeah, It's so 444 00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.199 multi layered. There's a lot lot going on here, and so you use 445 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.559 hypnotherapy to help people. I'm a huge fan of hypnotherapy. I've employed it 446 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:51.039 as well. Like you, It's like, once I figured out, oh 447 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.880 my gosh, like I have a really big hole to dig out of here. 448 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:59.239 You know, I have a lot of neural networking to change in my 449 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.199 brain. It's like I need all the tools. So how do how do 450 00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:07.840 you use it and how do you use it personally? And how do you 451 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.639 use it with clients? Well, you know, I think the job as 452 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.920 a therapist or a coach or anything like that, your responsibility is to help 453 00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:23.239 the people who are like you because you know that situation best and you can 454 00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:27.119 kind of say, okay, here's my hand. I've been that way before. 455 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:29.519 You got to go this way to get out of it. Right, 456 00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:35.400 So I don't give anybody anything to do that I haven't done myself, and 457 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.760 then I don't know where if it works or not. Right, So my 458 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:49.280 whole mindset is realizing human beings at the highest level of evolution, all sleepwalk. 459 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.639 Nobody's isolated from that. We're all sleepwalking, we're all in trance. 460 00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:59.960 So you have to hack the subconscious mind in the same way that it experienced 461 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.440 reality every single day in a state of trance. Right. So, sometimes 462 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:12.400 meditation can be a good tool. Sometimes muscle testing can be a good tool 463 00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:19.079 to diagnose beliefs. Sometimes just talk therapy can be a good tool. But 464 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.719 I encourage people most of all to learn how to meditate, learn how to 465 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:28.960 be consciously aware using their breath, using the body, because the subconscious mind 466 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:35.440 is inside of the body, as we know, and learn how to question 467 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.519 your negative automatic thoughts that we just have, which is just this egoic commentary 468 00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.480 all day long about this thing and that thing. And what that does is 469 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.280 it forces you to figure out what your spiritual self is, who that is 470 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:57.639 at the core, what you value? What are your ways of relating to 471 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.760 the world. How do I learn? Am I an auditory based person? 472 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:07.760 Am I a visual based person? Do I mostly feel things? What is 473 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:13.800 my what is my flavor of judgment? Because everybody has their own little way 474 00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.840 of judging things. They judge themselves the same way they judge everything else in 475 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:21.800 the outside world. Once you get used to that, you can tell the 476 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.880 difference between a lie and the truth very easily. So you just want to 477 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:30.599 learn how to question your reality and become a critical thinker and blend that with 478 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:35.159 the ability to induce yourself into a trance on your own. Because my goal 479 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.599 is to get people away from me as quickly as possible. Like you, 480 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.719 I don't want to see somebody coming back to me for a whole year, 481 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.360 you know, Yeah, you don't want them on training wheels that long. 482 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.920 No I just kind of want to push them off the plank. You know. 483 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.960 It's like clip your nose and I'm going to push you. Tough love. 484 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:57.440 Tough love from Jehan. Yeah, you kind of have to do all 485 00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.760 of it yourself anyway. No amount of babying is to help. I'm not 486 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:09.360 into the caudal culture because it's kind of like reinstalling the same programs over again 487 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.280 after you do some work on it. You can want to talk about something 488 00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:19.159 for so long before it gets old and stagnant, and now you're into a 489 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.719 lower frequency and you feel worse than you did before, right, And that 490 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:28.239 just maintains like a victim kind of mindset when we spin on the things that 491 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.400 are the problem and the excuses and all of that and yep, yeah, 492 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.400 it's the top in mud. Yeah, And it's like, we want to 493 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.440 get out of the victim mindset. We want to get into an empowered place 494 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:45.280 where we're we feel empowered to change. Yeah. So usually if I'm being 495 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:50.920 completely honest and frank about it, I just figure out what the programs are 496 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:53.920 the person's running, and then I say, okay, let's go into a 497 00:41:53.960 --> 00:42:00.599 trance like state. And I was telling you about it before we started interview. 498 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.679 You just close your eyes, you look up, you look right around 499 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.559 here, and you begin to look up through the levels, and I have 500 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:15.519 the person take their consciousness out of the body through a series of lights and 501 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:22.519 into a space that feels like a spider's web almost, and that disengages the 502 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.920 rational mind. It gets the body, which is the technology involved in the 503 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:31.000 process, in a way that it understands that something is happening. It teaches 504 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:36.280 the person to feel the frequencies and the different vibrations that go along with the 505 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.400 different levels of awareness, et cetera. It reconnects them to their spiritual self 506 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.440 because when you come out of that space, you want to go into a 507 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:50.559 bright white light that you realize once you get there, it's home. It's 508 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.800 a part of you. You are that light, and it's a very comfortable 509 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:58.840 space to be in. And so then we just go through whatever it is 510 00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:05.000 before that we came up within our the talk section of the session, whatever 511 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.079 the program is, we change that to the opposite. And so the language 512 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:12.840 of the subconscious mind is very simple, but it's also very strange to figure 513 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.480 out on your own, because when people are jumping around in front of a 514 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.599 mirror, doing affirmations and stuff. That's not always the right way to go 515 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.639 about changing it. They think that you can just repeat something a million times. 516 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:28.679 But if you say I am enough and the program is I am enough, 517 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.320 No, the subconscious mind is going to be like, Nope, nuh 518 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.559 huh, that's not what it's in here. Eactly. And if there's like 519 00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:42.280 an underlying belief that is really driving, you know, whatever's going on with 520 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.880 someone like you might be using affirmations that aren't even like connected to bidding it 521 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.199 belief, Yeah, exactly. It's like a belief is like a table with 522 00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.760 four legs, honestly, and you have to knock out. You have to 523 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.800 take each leg off to get to their root belief. So you could be 524 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.079 saying I am enough, and that's not even really the full issue. It's 525 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:04.920 connected to all those other things. Like you said, it could be I'm 526 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:14.480 not enough because I don't understand what it feels like to experience this emotional situation. 527 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.760 And so that's another part of the language of the subconscious I don't understand 528 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:21.840 what it feels like. The understanding of what it feels like is critical to 529 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:27.679 the equation. But you can't You also can't mimic that by feeling as much 530 00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.920 emotion as you can and anchoring it. Like they tell you all the time, 531 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:36.960 that's not like a plaster for every store. And these techniques have a 532 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.800 time and a place, and so you really have to figure out what language 533 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:45.320 is being used, because I like to say, all of life we experience 534 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:50.480 through a linguistic prison. You know, we lock ourselves in one little prison 535 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.599 or another. It's I am not this or I am that, and we 536 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:59.920 have to figure out, well, what is it I really believe about this? 537 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.280 What are the thoughts that are going along with these beliefs, Because even 538 00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:10.280 after you pull the I am enough no and you changed I am enough yes, 539 00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.360 then you're going to experience, for like a week or two, all 540 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.679 of these different thoughts, and you're going to realize that your judgments on things 541 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:23.760 change, You're the way that you reflect on yourself changes, and you have 542 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:29.239 to do stuff with that too. So I have to take my clients through 543 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:37.039 that process to really sit with them and be able to understand what is happening 544 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.960 now, because if you don't, they'll self sabotage again, you know, 545 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:46.719 like they'll go back to doing things or hanging out with people who kind of 546 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.559 reinstall things, you know, right, it's like you have to, Yeah, 547 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:57.880 like you have to examine your whole lifestyle in a way because pretty much 548 00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.800 everything we were carrying in terms of those beliefs came from the life we were 549 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.119 living. So if we're really wanting to be serious about this level of transformation, 550 00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:14.159 that then has this kind of like ripple like domino effect almost in terms 551 00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.360 of weeding out, you know, parts of your life that aren't supportive for 552 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.840 these new beliefs, and that that's a hard process. How how did that 553 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:29.000 go for you personally as you got into this kind of later stage of transformation 554 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.400 where you you really were taking on this new life, you know, a 555 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:38.199 lot changes, you know, how did you navigate that for yourself? Well, 556 00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.000 first of all, I see what you did there, transformation. That 557 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:50.480 was good. That was nice little con trans you know. Yeah, I 558 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:58.480 I realized that it was going to be kind of like what I just said, 559 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:04.039 It was going to be this on going journey forever of being willing to 560 00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:08.679 be with my breath and really trust the breath because that's the thing that slows 561 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:14.159 down the thoughts, that's the thing that keeps the limbic system, the emotional 562 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:20.679 part of the brain in check that I can then combine my rational thinking mind 563 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.039 with my emotional mind and try to meet myself somewhere in the middle, which 564 00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:30.079 is where all the wisdom about the situation is at. And it became a 565 00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:38.480 constant journey of knowing when I was having a reaction to something and judging something 566 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:45.440 or feeling the wrong emotion when I should really be trying to re reframe something 567 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.320 and look at it from a different way. You know, that's that's the 568 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.719 easiest way for me to explain it in a short way. You know, 569 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.920 what about relationships in your life? So I know that's probably one of the 570 00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:02.280 hardest things for us when we're on this path of transformation. You know, 571 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.440 it requires relationship changes sometimes or changes in how we're relating to the people we 572 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:13.960 love. What was that like for you? Did you have any hard conversations 573 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:15.719 you know, as a result of this, did you have to change friend 574 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:21.039 groups? Like? What is what was that like? It was terrible? 575 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:27.599 It was terrible. I had to give up all my friends. And you 576 00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:34.000 know, the biggest piece of insight I can say there is that people come 577 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.800 into your life, people leave your life. Everything has an expiration date, 578 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:45.039 whether you want to admit that or not. And if let's say someone is 579 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:52.519 a particular way and you don't agree with it and it's towards you, you 580 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.840 have to sit that person down and you have to say to them the hard 581 00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:00.760 stuff. You have to say, Hey, listen, when you do or 582 00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:06.320 say this thing I feel this way, don't say it makes me feel. 583 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.480 Take responsibility for it, because your emotions are generated inside of you. When 584 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.880 you say it makes me feel. Really, what you're saying is that you're 585 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:21.599 making yourself a victim over somebody else's actions, and that's not healthy for your 586 00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:28.119 thought process. Say to them this thing that you do, I react automatically 587 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.639 by this. Can we talk about that a lot of people don't want to 588 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:35.480 have that conversation. A lot of people are like, you're the problem. 589 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.519 I don't do that. Yeah, and then that's how you know where you 590 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:43.559 stand with somebody. Yeah, you can. You can only be like okay, 591 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:45.320 and then you go up on your own you're like, okay, so 592 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.480 this person does this thing. They don't see that they do that thing. 593 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:57.119 I can't make them see that. What do I do that provokes that response 594 00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:02.039 from them? Adds to the energy of that situation creates that situation with my 595 00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.360 thinking, where do I mentally consent to that? And you work on yourself 596 00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.599 that way, because it's kind of like that old adage, right when when 597 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.599 you judge somebody, when you point the finger, you got three fingers pointed 598 00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.519 back at you, right, exactly, exactly, doesn't matter what the other 599 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:22.360 person does, right, some people are never going to change. You can 600 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:24.760 do the greatest I don't know, shamanic techniques, you can do, the 601 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:29.239 reversing techniques, all that kinds of stuff. You can forgive them till you're 602 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:34.239 blue in the face. They're never going to change, right, because that 603 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.639 is their frequency, right, So it's on you to make a change. 604 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.840 So then you have to decide how are you going to deal with this? 605 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.880 Exactly you stay or do you go? Like that? Sometimes that's it, 606 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.920 you know. I know when I was in this phase of really realizing I 607 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.920 had major mindset shifts that needed to happen, and I started doing the work. 608 00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.599 Well, then all of a sudden, I started really recognizing that a 609 00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:05.360 lot of my connections with people at the time, we're centering around happy hours 610 00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:13.119 and drinking and discussion that was more or less negative, right, like just 611 00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:19.480 griping and you know, being victims about stuff as people do, like we 612 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:23.360 tend to connect over our trauma and over those sorts of things, and so 613 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:30.360 all of a sudden I recognized, Wow, I think for me to be 614 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:36.000 healthy and to be able to successfully make this change, I can't do happy 615 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.159 hours like I've been doing. I think I have to cut that out of 616 00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:44.039 my life at least for a while until I can, you know, really 617 00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:49.599 get myself in a solidly reprogrammed, healthier place. And that's hard, you 618 00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:53.639 know, it's hard saying goodbye or letting go, But like you said, 619 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:58.519 it's this process you know, we go through in all aspects of our life 620 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:02.679 that is natural. We're all okay, but not something we're really taught either, 621 00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.239 which makes it harder. Yeah, And you know what, we are 622 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.880 programmed to believe that the people that are in our lives should be in our 623 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:15.679 lives forever and that things aren't ever going to change, and that actually compounds 624 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.159 our beliefs about the way life should be. Right. Someone can leave your 625 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.480 life or they can stay in your life, but it doesn't mean anything about 626 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.639 that person or about you. It just means that you have a mission and 627 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.280 they don't fit into that. It doesn't have to be this unloving thing. 628 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.760 And I'm very vocal about this. We see a lot of that in mean 629 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:39.039 culture, the so called personal development culture, that tells us as soon as 630 00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:44.639 someone isn't who you think they should be for you, you got to cut 631 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:50.559 them off right right. Difficult people exist. That's just a hard reality, 632 00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:58.400 and it's not for you to say how they should be. They can only 633 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.840 be who they are based on what they're programmed with, what their experiences are, 634 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:07.000 and what their level of insight is. I have people in my life 635 00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:12.079 that are terrible to your own, but it doesn't bother me anymore because that's 636 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.840 just their thing. That's what they're here to do. They have to learn 637 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:21.119 those lessons and they have to be willing to change and be better. But 638 00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.800 you can't want more for someone than what they want for themselves. That's what 639 00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:30.400 I'm saying. Yeah, that's that's beautiful advice. We impose, we impose 640 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:35.480 our will, our expectations on people a lot. That imposition of expectation is 641 00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.199 not love at all. Yeah, it isn't, you know. And we 642 00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:45.000 we're entering a stranger time in humanity where there's a lot more stuff that we're 643 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.119 not gonna like, but we have to accept it so that we don't lose 644 00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:52.400 our sanity, you know, and have compassion compassion, right like, if 645 00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:57.920 we're if we're spiritual people and you know, are wanting to live a healthier, 646 00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.880 more loving life. Passion as part of that doesn't mean we're condoning or 647 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:07.559 getting involved in the mix, you know, of a victimhood or whatever it 648 00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:13.079 is. But we can still hold space for that and be compassionate and loving 649 00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.199 towards those people. Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be so many times 650 00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:22.079 where you're just like a what and you know, it's not for you to 651 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:27.559 understand. If you don't understand it and you can't find a point of compassion, 652 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.519 stop worrying about it. It's not yours to carry, it's not yours 653 00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:35.639 to own. You know. We're going to see a lot of situations that 654 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:40.199 are like that coming up for the next few years or so where our ability 655 00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:46.639 to empathize is going to be tested. But sometimes empathy sounds a whole lot 656 00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:51.400 like I just don't understand, dude, I just don't understand what you're saying 657 00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:55.119 or doing. I just and it's probably just not for me. It's past 658 00:54:55.199 --> 00:55:00.800 that and you have to do your own thing, know how it goes, 659 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.679 because I have no idea what it feels like to be in your shoes, 660 00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:09.840 have no clue. That's a beautiful way to put it. And I think 661 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:15.840 so often, you know, we come, we see a difference, and 662 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:21.880 that triggers us, right or or or we then kind of get combative, 663 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.880 you know, with someone in that moment because again we're like in this kind 664 00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:30.440 of imposing place where we're wanting to fit them into our version of reality or 665 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:36.559 whatever. So I think that was such a beautiful way to frame up just 666 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.880 how to offer a statement to someone that that holds space for them and honors 667 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:45.199 them and their journey, but also kind of gives you the space you need 668 00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.480 in it too. I think that that was so beautiful. So thank you 669 00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:53.840 for sharing that with the audience. Well you're welcome. I mean, you 670 00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:57.280 got to listen to people, right, You just have to listen to them. 671 00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.440 Sometimes you just you aren't going to like what you hear, and yeah, 672 00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:06.079 that's that's your problem. Yeah, more than anything else. If you 673 00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:08.519 don't like what you hear, and then you got to figure out, okay, 674 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:13.519 am I right to feel the way that I do about what this person 675 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.039 just said to me. Right, because sometimes you are right, you know, 676 00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.440 like it take the egoistic thing out of it. Sometimes you are right 677 00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.159 to feel that way, you know, and you have very good reasons why 678 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:27.280 you feel that way, because it's that it goes against your values. Right, 679 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.639 it's not always about programming. Sometimes it goes against your values. It's 680 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.880 not that you're having cognitive dissonance on something. So like you just know better 681 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.800 because you've been there, you've been past it, or you just you know 682 00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.960 certain things, or like truth is a big frequency that you feel, and 683 00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.000 once something resonates at that frequency and you get good at feeling it, you 684 00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:51.320 know what's truth and what's fiction. Right, Yeah, and so you kind 685 00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.880 of, you know, to honor yourself at that point, you say, 686 00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:57.920 okay, well, you know it's fine to have differences because guess what, 687 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:02.480 this is a hard one for people to get. Differences can make two people 688 00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:07.360 or you and a group of people, or whatever this case is, make 689 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:13.000 it stronger, make things work right. Well, people are so concerned with 690 00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:15.800 being right, But what I can be right, You can be right, 691 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:17.960 he can be right, she can be right, We can all be right 692 00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:24.239 and still be in different places of awareness and still work together on certain things 693 00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:29.639 that we can all agree to focus on and forget the rest of the stuff. 694 00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:35.039 Right, And it's like, it's like each soul comes into this experience 695 00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:40.280 with its own unique gifts and talents and skills and wisdom and perspective, and 696 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:45.679 we need all those differences to make up a harmonious whole. Like that is 697 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:52.239 the point, right, right, But it's in how we navigate those differences 698 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:57.519 together and how we recognize the beauty in those and find a way to fit 699 00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.159 the puzzle pieces together, I guess, right. And then there's and then 700 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.880 unfortunately, there's going to be the other layers to that, where there are 701 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.480 people where you realize, oh boy, that person's brain is dangerous, the 702 00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:10.639 content to that person's brain is dangerous. I have to limit my exploiture to 703 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:14.480 this person. You know. That's just to be real because a lot of 704 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:19.079 people, you know, don't want to talk about that aspect. But it's 705 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:22.280 I don't think a lot of this stuff was meant to be cut and dry, 706 00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:28.639 yeah, And I think we expect stuff to be rigidly one way or 707 00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:32.920 another, you know. Yeah, Yeah, the universe is complex and it's 708 00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.519 designed like it's it's beautifully simple and complex at the same time. And that's 709 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.880 a whole that's a whole nother conversation, I guess, but like we probably 710 00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:46.079 don't have time for that whole conversation. But but there there is something, 711 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:52.199 yeah, about this whole life experience that we often want to fit into like 712 00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:57.880 a box or make it really easy or or or just not allow for the 713 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:02.599 complexity and the differences that are there. And yeah, I think that's an 714 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:09.519 interesting thing to reflect on it, especially at this time and human civilization. 715 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:15.440 You mentioned you're you're kind of expecting, you know, challenges to continue and 716 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:21.679 there to be, you know, continuing a few years of things that we're 717 00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:29.320 going to have maybe some challenge dealing with or seeing or meeting. And I 718 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:31.719 want to get your opinion on that because I think there's you know, there's 719 00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:39.679 also this aspect of what's happening in the world that requires us to go through 720 00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:46.159 a grieving process at times, you know. So, so you mentioned recognizing 721 00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:54.320 where certain behaviors or actions whatever that is, whether it's a person, organization, 722 00:59:54.519 --> 01:00:01.039 corporation, government, whatever, you recognizing when that is counter to your 723 01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:07.360 morals, your ethics, your truth and and I think for a lot of 724 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:13.079 people who are waking up, they're recognizing there's a lot that's counter to whatever 725 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:17.280 moral you know, integrity they feel they have, and and that's a hard 726 01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:21.920 thing to face and recognize and deal with. And so, you know, 727 01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:27.480 we've been talking about the like depth of distortion and programming that we're digging out 728 01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:34.079 of, and our civilization is continuing to go through massive challenges as we evolve 729 01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:38.800 and as we try to break through this current era of distortion. So how 730 01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:45.840 do we hold both of those things and how do we how do we like, 731 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.639 how do we look at you know, the world around us and and 732 01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:55.239 move forward with our positive programming and getting to you know what I like to 733 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.199 call kind of like a miracle mindset, you know, where we're really you 734 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:04.039 know, in flow with the way the universe is meant for us to engage 735 01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.880 while also living in this reality and holding space for what's happening on this planet. 736 01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:13.960 That was a lot, So you're busted over laugh, Yeah, you 737 01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:19.079 made me laugh. I had to because that is such a difficult concept to 738 01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:24.639 unpack. It's a lot. The main thing about it is that the more 739 01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:30.519 aware you become, the more complex life seems to be because you notice all 740 01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:35.920 of these different layers that were in between the layers that you first saw that 741 01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:42.360 you didn't you really wait, that's another thing I haven't seen yet, And 742 01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.159 you're like, I thought, I already figured that out, and it just 743 01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:51.320 it keeps going on like da. But like I said to you, one 744 01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:55.199 of the things that I talk about a lot in relation to this topic is 745 01:01:55.239 --> 01:02:02.199 that everyone is programmed. And when someone is seeing through the filter of a 746 01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:07.679 program, it doesn't matter what you say or what you do. You can 747 01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:10.719 be like this and they can't hear you, and they can't see you, 748 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.079 and they're not going to They have to get there on their own time, 749 01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:21.239 and they have to go through the discomfort and do the inner rewiring on their 750 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:30.480 own to be able to understand what you're saying. And and so, like 751 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:37.480 I usually I explain to people, it is a war on consciousness that we 752 01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:43.280 are witnessing, especially at this time more than ever before. And to get 753 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:45.199 around that stuff, you really want to grow, you have to guard your 754 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:52.239 consciousness because we put so much stuff in our bodies, or we're exposed to 755 01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:58.800 so much stuff toxic, heavy metals and things like that. Caffeine is a 756 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:06.320 big one, Sugar, all these things that affect our brains, and if 757 01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:09.480 our brains aren't working correctly, our thinking is not going to be working correctly. 758 01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:15.960 And we're we are in an even deeper state of hypnosis than we ordinarily 759 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:22.480 would be around certain things, and so we can't really see the daylight creeping 760 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.840 in, so to speak. It makes it difficult, and so we're constantly 761 01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:30.079 bombarded with stuff that is darkness to kind of close the curtains on us more 762 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:34.239 and more, and we have to isolate ourselves from those things. I'm not 763 01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.480 saying go live on a mountain in Tibet or something. You could if you 764 01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:43.440 wanted to, highly recommend doing that. Actually highly recommend moving to Tibet. 765 01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:47.199 While I did that, I left my life in Texas and moved to Sedona, 766 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:52.400 Arizona. So I you know, I was following guidance that I was 767 01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:55.920 receiving, but it was also you know, this this moment of I need 768 01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:59.719 to be somewhere else, I need to be somewhere just a little more isolated, 769 01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:01.800 so I can, you know, I can really focus on what I 770 01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:05.960 need to focus on and not be caught up in the rat race of city 771 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:11.199 life. Well, there's a very good reason for that. If you have 772 01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:15.960 a plant and it's in too small of a pot and it's become root bound, 773 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.320 what do you do? You have to put it in a bigger pot. 774 01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:24.159 Right. So if you eat planting seeds in the same space and you 775 01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:29.119 realize it's not growing, it's the soil, it's not the seed, right. 776 01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:33.559 So not everyone can get away from where they're at. Now everyone can 777 01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:36.920 relocate. So what do you do. You look at the things in your 778 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:42.960 environment. But your environment is your diet too, right, So mentally, 779 01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:46.199 what's your diet? Physically what's your diet? What's your nutrition? Because all 780 01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:50.719 these things are factors that block our spiritual self. I tell people turn off 781 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:56.400 the damn TV. Just turn it off, right, unless you're watching the 782 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.800 Star Family Wisdom, to turn off the damn TV. Thank you, Yes, 783 01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:09.320 programming, Conscious Awakening Network or something yeah TV, because it's putting information 784 01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:14.880 into your brain that is essentially garbage. And then you wonder why you create 785 01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:20.039 garbage in your life. This consciousness just replicates what it sees. Yeah, 786 01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:26.800 it's looking to recreate an experience. And the limbic system is a recording device. 787 01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:30.320 So when you watch a horror movie or a music video, and they're 788 01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:34.920 doing whatever they're doing, and you like that. Your olympic system loves that. 789 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:40.880 It records and remembers that, and so you begin to act that way 790 01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:45.599 in scenarios that are similar to that according to it, not according to your 791 01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:51.920 personality. So we're being tricked because control of perception is the name of the 792 01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.960 game, right even music, Like you talk about this also, like you're 793 01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:01.639 like you're real big on media music and help people discern, you know, 794 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:08.119 between conscious media and media that is just putting garbage in our heads. Like 795 01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:13.440 you said, what about music specifically? Oh? Man, No, See 796 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:17.679 this is my area because I lived that life. I became a drug dependent 797 01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:26.159 narcissist because because I thought that was how I was supposed to act in order 798 01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:30.079 to play in a rock and roll band or whatever. I thought I was 799 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.800 supposed to be that guy. And we emulate those things that we see on 800 01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:41.800 the music videos and you know, the music channels. I don't even know 801 01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.039 if they still have MTV and stuff like that. I grew up with MTV, 802 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:51.480 So Carson Daily, remember Carson Daily, DRL all those things, you 803 01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:57.920 know, So, I mean, all of that affects you on a subconscious 804 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.320 level. It's trying to dictate to you who you should be, and it's 805 01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:08.639 taking you away from your spiritual self. Your spiritual self is what informs how 806 01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:13.320 you operate in this world in what is your personality, what are your values 807 01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.400 and those kinds of things. But if you are watching something on a screen, 808 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:24.039 it's turning off the prefrontal cortex, the frontal lobe. And that's a 809 01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:29.360 very bad thing because that's where your rational thinking, your critical thinking, and 810 01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:35.920 your spirituality comes from. Right, And that's done on purpose. I can't 811 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:40.400 even I can't even sugar quote that that's done on purpose, Like they know 812 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:44.800 what they're doing with that stuff, right, Yeah, every operation has a 813 01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:47.840 marketing team. All of the marketing teams for the most part, have a 814 01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:54.719 good understanding of how the mind works and how to position things and how to 815 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:59.639 program right and these and in this day and age too, I should also 816 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:04.239 just comment, you know, people just get raised in that system like they 817 01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:08.599 don't even know that that is wrong, you know, like they they're just 818 01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:15.079 doing that because that's their job. And it actually is just this full scale 819 01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:23.159 mind control game that has been monetized exactly, and they do stuff just to 820 01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:28.359 comment on that before I get back on about the music. They have these 821 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:33.279 teams of scientists that will set up warehouses in the middle of the night to 822 01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:38.399 put products on fake shelves, and they'll invite people to come to do these 823 01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:44.600 studies to hook you up to brain scans and monitor your facial responses and all 824 01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:48.159 these things. They've got that down to a science to try to sell you 825 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:53.760 stuff or to know whether the next episode of the Bachelor is going to have 826 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:58.159 a particular impact on you. You know, things like that. So don't 827 01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:00.039 ever think for a second, or anybody that's listening, don't ever think for 828 01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.239 a second that any of this stuff is innocent. There's a lot of people, 829 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:05.000 like you said, they're involved, and they just don't know it. 830 01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:09.159 That's not that their pay grade, that's not what they do. They don't 831 01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:11.680 know that stuff is going on behind the scenes. They just get a bunch 832 01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:15.640 of paperwork that says this is what we're doing, and they're like, okay, 833 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:18.199 well, boss says this, we do that totally. Well I should 834 01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:20.960 one more little sidebar before we get back to the music. You know, 835 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:24.319 before I was awake, you know, I was in the corporate world, 836 01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:27.840 you know, for a long time, and in retail, and there's just 837 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:32.399 these aspects of retail and merchandising that are commonplace, right that the marketing you 838 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:38.079 know, processes and strategies, it's just commonplace across all of business. And 839 01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:41.640 you know, for the longest time, didn't even think twice about it, 840 01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:45.520 right, because I was in this like sleepwalking place, this unconscious place that 841 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:48.720 that's just what we do, you know, that's just the way the world 842 01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:53.199 works. And and then as you start to wake up a little more to 843 01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:57.600 it, you do start to realize, no, there really is this like 844 01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:00.760 and again a lot of it's on conscious you know. So I'm not calling 845 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.880 out, you know, every single person in the corporate world for this, 846 01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:06.720 because a lot of people are just going along with what they've been taught, 847 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:13.439 how the system has been developed. But yeah, it's just awful. Like 848 01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:17.279 like if you if you, if you got to the point of, you 849 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:21.439 know, like judging a civilization based off of its spiritual integrity, you know, 850 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:28.560 we would be failing miserably, right because we're just walking around manipulating each 851 01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:33.720 other constantly in this world and school. Yeah, and it's like and even 852 01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:38.920 in the you know, the online business world, I just want to comment 853 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.960 on this for a second. You know, there's also this aspect of online 854 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:48.239 marketing and business that requires some of the same tactics. And you know, 855 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:50.760 as I've been developing Star Family Wisdom, it's like, yeah, you want 856 01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:53.840 to build an email list, you want to send out some emails, you 857 01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.439 want to connect with people. But at the same time, as I started 858 01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.840 learning from all of these other you know, business and watching and you know, 859 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:05.600 studying what's going on out there, I just started to develop this huge 860 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:13.600 resistance to copying what they're doing because it's essentially the same thing that's going on 861 01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.720 out there in brick and mortar retail. We've just translated it to the online 862 01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:21.000 world, and we're just trying to manipulate people's you know, response time and 863 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:27.079 neural networks and triggers to get them to buy stuff. Right, It's like 864 01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:31.840 utilizing this like scarcity mindset and the lack mindset and feeding off of people's you 865 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:40.079 know, worthiness issues and stuff. And the amount of anyone listening who's running 866 01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:43.359 a spiritual business. This might be for you if you know the amount of 867 01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:49.279 spiritual businesses out there that are operating with those sorts of tactics, and you 868 01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:53.720 know, it's not to say you can't run a sale or offer something at 869 01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:57.760 a discount every once in a while, you know, that's okay, But 870 01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:02.159 like there's a level of that that starts to get into really playing off of 871 01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:09.600 people's issues and playing off of the mind control that is possible. And so 872 01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:13.600 you know, I just challenge everyone out there who's at any sort of business, 873 01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:16.239 you know, to really think twice about that, and you know, 874 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:20.199 think about how we can do things differently going forward, because like that's not 875 01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:24.199 the answer either. It's like we want to help people, but you know, 876 01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:29.680 the amount of stuff that we get bombarded with that's just trying to trigger 877 01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:33.640 us to get us to buy something is not okay. Yeah, it is 878 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:38.800 mind control and its finest and you know, I know you know this. 879 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:42.159 You don't have to be sleezy, You don't have to try to sell anything 880 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:45.880 to anyone. The right people always show up. Yeah. Yeah, like 881 01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:49.000 I said to you before, the darkness imposes itself on people, The darkness 882 01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:53.920 kind of pushes itself on you all the time twenty four to seven. But 883 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:58.560 the light's just waiting for you to ask for help, and anyone that wants 884 01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:02.239 to come to you for help for any of your services. It's not because 885 01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:05.920 you know, it's not because they're having the time of their life. They're 886 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:09.880 at they're at rock bottom. They're like, please take my money, you 887 01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:14.279 know, like I'll do anything you say. Right, So you got to 888 01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:16.880 keep that in mind as as a marketer and realize that you really don't have 889 01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:20.640 to market yourself so hard. You don't have to push yourself on anybody, 890 01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:25.760 because it's kind of like intellectual rape. Actually, yeah, in a lot 891 01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:29.119 of ways, it's like we need to start asking those questions even in you 892 01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:31.840 know, meeting rooms, you know, in corporate America, like is this 893 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:36.039 actually you know, in integrity, you know, if we're if we're wanting 894 01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:40.960 to be good humans, you know, to each other and and not just 895 01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:46.760 you know, make money, you know, the expense of people. If 896 01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:53.760 they want the strawberries, they'll buy the strawberries, Karen, exactly, give 897 01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:57.319 them good strawberries. That was That was our Whole Foods I should say, 898 01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:00.199 you know, Whole Foods of all companies. There's a reason I stayed there 899 01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.399 a long time. You know, Whole Foods for the most part, you 900 01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:06.600 know, really is a conscious business. You know, it's it is possible 901 01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:13.279 to do business in a more conscious way out there. So right, okay, 902 01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:17.479 back to the music. Right, So music is actually, in itself, 903 01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:23.079 is actually influencing us at a cellular level all the time. And so 904 01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:28.600 what that means is that anytime we're actually exposed to music, it's affecting us. 905 01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:31.720 It's speeding up or slowing down the heart rate, it's relaxing the nervous 906 01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:36.359 system or agitating it. It's affecting your blood pleasure pressure, it's affecting your 907 01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:45.560 digestion, it's affecting how you breathe. So everybody knows that music affects the 908 01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:49.319 way that you think about yourself, and music is one of the main driving 909 01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:58.039 forces behind influencing culture, besides the TV. So what happens is that, 910 01:14:58.079 --> 01:15:00.880 well I should say not what happened, but what has happened to us. 911 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:12.000 It is that we have become extremely complacent and complicit to our own slavery through 912 01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:19.560 music. And what we don't realize is that we had the ancient civilizations that 913 01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:26.680 were very careful about what they did with music, and they knew that sound 914 01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:32.800 was used to degrade the mind or to enhance spiritual development. So you had 915 01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:39.119 people like Pythagoras, who basically said that music is just a derivative of numbers 916 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:45.199 and mathematics, and he said that the way he saw things was that the 917 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:51.319 whole universe was kind of linked to the same numbers and mathematical ratios that were 918 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:57.800 found in the musical skills and stuff like that, and he just kind of 919 01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:02.439 knew that music influenced your thoughts, it could create certain emotions, and it 920 01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:11.520 could control your bodily health. Right, So Geraldine showed me this last night 921 01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:15.239 actually with Kanye talking about the eight O eight saying how his exact words, 922 01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:19.720 where it f's up your frequencies, it screws up your chakras. And he's 923 01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:26.479 right right, because that's we have that human hearing spectrum, which is twenty 924 01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:31.199 hurts to twenty thousand killer herts. And usually when you're mixing music, you 925 01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:38.239 want to cut those things out because the heartbeat is around fifty five sixty hertz, 926 01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:41.760 and that's what the kick drum is at, and it's called the heartbeat 927 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:45.640 of the music for a reason. Anything below that is the sub frequency, 928 01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:48.239 so that's where the eto eights are at. So they try to minimize the 929 01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:53.880 amount of subfrequencies because it would blow out your speakers and make everything sound terrible 930 01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:58.800 in the first place. But it's also just really not good for the hearing 931 01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:01.800 spectrum and it's not good for your energetic body, right, So they try 932 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:05.920 to control those frequencies and tame them. They may have to add some back 933 01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:12.840 in and stuff like that in the final process of a record, but it's 934 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:17.800 done tastefully in a particular way that it's not overwhelming. But with the ato 935 01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:20.800 weights and stuff like that, it's just all on all the time, like 936 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:28.600 boo all the time, and it's a representation of the message of the music. 937 01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:34.600 It's lower frequency beings that are coming in and what direction should I go 938 01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:38.560 with this? Okay, So when the subconscious mind, when we're analyzing our 939 01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:42.520 programming and we're out there in the field, let's say, in meditation or 940 01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:50.319 something, we have access to these fragmented aspects of ourselves, and these entities 941 01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:56.279 and these beings and stuff like that represent fragmented aspects of ourselves. So it's 942 01:17:56.279 --> 01:18:00.640 not necessarily that it's all separate energy from us. We have that in the 943 01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:05.279 field and we have to be able to take that out. So this music 944 01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:10.399 kind of calls that energy into your life. It degrades your energetic body. 945 01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:15.159 That makes it more susceptible for you to act out the darkest aspects of yourself 946 01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:21.720 and to become that darkness, you know, invite these entities towards you rather 947 01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:26.560 and cast them out of you. Right, So which music is this like 948 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:30.199 so that you're saying that ATO eights like, and what does that apply to? 949 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:35.479 So the ATO eights would be anything that's very low frequency, below like 950 01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:41.600 a hundred hertz or anything like that. You're you're dealing with lower frequencies along 951 01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:45.760 that spectrum because that's like one hundred hertz and below is where the base is 952 01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:54.920 mainly at, right, So it's it's just so low that it's it's very 953 01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.840 agitating on a cellular level. Imagine the hut the way you know this, 954 01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:01.479 you don't even have to imagine. The higher frequency is very light, right, 955 01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:06.960 right, So like the top the treble stuff is much lighter in frequency 956 01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:10.520 the lower frequency. Right. So that's the easiest way to explain it. 957 01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:15.359 And so what the ancient civilizations understood was that music was kind of like an 958 01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:18.920 energetic formula that they used. It was free energy, right right. It 959 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:24.800 was like a zero point machine to them. Actually, and what they were 960 01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:30.359 saying is that they knew that music had the power to violate free will? 961 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.640 Right? Is that's interesting, right, because only darkness does that? Yeah, 962 01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:40.600 only darkness. Hold on a second, So yeah, so are there 963 01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:45.800 people like purposefully putting out music to try to steer people away from free will? 964 01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:50.960 Okay? What kind of like like like if we were just like, 965 01:19:51.079 --> 01:19:57.520 you know, flipping through our iPhone and you know what's on the list, 966 01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:00.319 you know what sort of songs might I'm on? That would tip us off 967 01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:04.279 that that's a song we shouldn't listen to. Well take the eight away, 968 01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:09.600 so out of the equation. The entire music industry was made just for that 969 01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:15.680 purpose to direct culture unfortunately. So yeah, so yeah, so the best 970 01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:23.800 music to listen to would be stringed instruments like shamanic drumming and you're gonna love 971 01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:30.079 that classical music things like that, because they've found when they hook people up 972 01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:34.720 to brain scans that those are the things that are less threatening to the energetic 973 01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:41.359 body and they actually put you in a better frequency that you can tap into 974 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:45.520 your spiritual self right right. And one thing I have to say about that 975 01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:51.960 is everybody needs to read a book called the Tavistock Institute of Mind Control and 976 01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:59.159 Tabs. Stock is basically a think tank where they come up with all the 977 01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:04.079 ideas that take culture, music, what's gonna what are the beliefs that are 978 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:09.439 going to be in society, how we dress, how we talk, all 979 01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:12.560 those things. So when you talk about ideas that, well, ghost writing 980 01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:15.920 and music is a big deal. There's a whole industry underlying that where six 981 01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:19.239 or seven other people write the song and you think it's the artist that really 982 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:24.960 right, but it really wasn't. You know, it wasn't It wasn't Beyonce 983 01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:28.960 that wrote that song. It was seven people you don't even know exists, 984 01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:33.439 right, right, And it's coming from coming down the pipeline saying you got 985 01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:36.399 to write about this. This is what we want them to believe, This 986 01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:39.319 is how we want them to talk, This is how we want them to 987 01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:43.479 act, this is you know, all kinds of things. I'm not going 988 01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:46.640 to go so far into it. So wow, okay, So that's so 989 01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:50.600 this is a book we have to read I'm Not Yeah, by John Coleman, 990 01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:57.399 Doctor John Coleman, tat Stock Institute. Yeah. Okay, Well, 991 01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:00.079 even when you listen to the lyrics in a lot of music. You know, 992 01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:02.840 I haven't gone that deep in my research, so I wasn't aware of 993 01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:08.840 that, Oh my goodness. But even just starting to kind of question, 994 01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:13.119 like we were talking about earlier, just questioning like what am I hearing? 995 01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:15.479 Why am I hearing that? You know, so many of the lyrics are 996 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:21.039 violent, you know, either like kind of a victim mentality, or it's 997 01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:25.520 about loss, or you know, it's just playing off of all of the 998 01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:30.239 more negative aspects of the human drama. Yeah, the same themes in music 999 01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:36.800 are the same themes in television, just packaged differently. Yeah. And that's 1000 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:43.760 the major point here, is that the ancient civilizations, whether it's ancient China 1001 01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:47.800 or Egypt or whoever, they knew that music should never be used for entertainment 1002 01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:54.720 because they knew that it doesn't take much to stimulate the dark side of a 1003 01:22:54.800 --> 01:23:00.439 human being, right, And that's why they focused on the harmonic ratios. 1004 01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:04.520 And that's why we see now, you know, a resurgence I guess of 1005 01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:10.720 some of that sort of music or sound healing, even like using sound to 1006 01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:16.000 expose people to those frequencies. Exactly, That's exactly it, you get it. 1007 01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:23.199 Because they knew that using the music as entertainment wouldn't lead to immorality and 1008 01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:28.920 incorrect behavior. They knew that people would begin to change the best aspects of 1009 01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:34.560 what it is to be a human just by listening to music. And when 1010 01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:39.800 you listen to older music from like the nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties, nineteen 1011 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:42.560 forties, you say, oh, that's not that harmless. But then you 1012 01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:46.159 realize around that time that's when the music industry came into play and they really 1013 01:23:46.199 --> 01:23:54.840 started trying to ramp things up. And it's kind of like how extraterrestrials give 1014 01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:59.439 humans little bits of information, and so we reverse engineered that and we create 1015 01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:01.319 all these different things and we kind of act like we did it. We 1016 01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:05.479 didn't really do it. You know. It's kind of like the same thing 1017 01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:12.319 with music, where darker levels of consciousness, darker entities and stuff come through. 1018 01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:16.079 And I don't want to look at this through the religious route and say 1019 01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:21.159 demonic or satanic or use those words. I just prefer to say entity related 1020 01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:29.239 things. Darker frequencies come through, and something that was used for good was 1021 01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:33.720 perverted and now it's used for perception management and to make people ill, Like 1022 01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:45.359 is it Let me see it's a guy called doctor Adam Canisete. I always 1023 01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:46.960 kind of want to call him Knuckles or something. I don't know why, 1024 01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:54.039 but he he did. He's actually a musicologist and that's what he is. 1025 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:59.600 And he studied the side effects of music on people, different types of music, 1026 01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:03.000 I shou and he said that music is a really powerful drug. Music 1027 01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:06.960 can poison you, or it can lift your spirits, and it can make 1028 01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:15.279 you sick without knowing why, right, and so it's pretty scary. It's 1029 01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:25.079 pretty scary because we had It's Lenin who was the founder of communism. He 1030 01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:30.359 said that one quick way to destroy a society was through its music. And 1031 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.840 you can actually see there's a quote. There's a book called the Marxist Minstrels. 1032 01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:40.239 I posted it to my Instagram. It's a handbook on Communist subversion of 1033 01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:45.039 music that tells you exactly how these people think. And we're actually very much 1034 01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:50.960 living in a society that is run by that type of thinking to stop you 1035 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:58.239 from being your true spiritual self, right, yeah, And there's this level 1036 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:03.239 of that has messed with our blueprints, you know. I like to I 1037 01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:08.439 like to talk about the fact that you know, really we do have a 1038 01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:12.520 divine blueprint, you know, some sort of perfect, you know, energetic 1039 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:18.880 blueprint that we can connect with that is supposed to be there in place. 1040 01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:26.159 But as we're exposed to this world and all of the levels of programming that 1041 01:26:26.359 --> 01:26:30.840 happen, that blueprint starts to get distorted. And and like when you're talking 1042 01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:35.439 about the musical you know, frequencies and vibrations, it's like I'm just seeing 1043 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:42.000 that, you know, like just ripping apart the blueprint. And what we're 1044 01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:45.760 here to do, I think, you know, as a spiritual community, 1045 01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:50.560 as star seeds, as people who are awakening, is restore the blueprint. 1046 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:59.479 Like we're here to put the blueprint back together and align with the highest level 1047 01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:01.439 of that blue print that we can align with, like bring that down to 1048 01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:09.039 the physical. And it's like that requires us not listening to all of the 1049 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:13.399 stuff anymore. Yeah, And people ask me all the time, well what 1050 01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:15.239 can I do? It's like, go out and buy a guitar. They're 1051 01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:19.239 only ninety nine bucks these days. You can find somebody selling one on eBay 1052 01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:23.039 for less than that. Yeah. Yeah, by a singing bowl. Go 1053 01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:26.239 buy a piano. They're all cheap these days. Yeah. And there's one 1054 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:30.520 of the thing, yoga music, you know, enchanting music you can find 1055 01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.520 you know, on the apps these days, Like there is a lot of 1056 01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:38.479 option out there, it's just not what we got taught about exactly. And 1057 01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:43.720 I actually know a company right now that they're working on high vibration music and 1058 01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:49.560 it's it's based on the scale of the Hawkins scale level of consciousness, Focused 1059 01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:55.560 Life Force Energy. I'm not getting paid to say this or anything. FLF 1060 01:27:55.760 --> 01:28:00.359 dot net. You can go try it out. They have a UH service. 1061 01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:05.159 You can put it on your phone for fifteen days free and it'll it'll 1062 01:28:05.159 --> 01:28:13.399 mitigate all the harsh EMF frequencies and it will blast you with frequencies over a 1063 01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:16.680 five hundred level of consciousness, which on the scale is love amazing. You 1064 01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:20.239 can I use it on my house. That's amazing. I love that. 1065 01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:26.800 Like every human needs that exactly so. And so there's plenty of sources out 1066 01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:31.319 there that doing that, are doing similar things that they're working on these technologies, 1067 01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:42.399 and it's important because there's research that shows that enough volume so you go 1068 01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:46.319 to a concert or something that can actually congeal the proteins in an egg. 1069 01:28:47.039 --> 01:28:51.600 Oh goodness, groncious. I did not know that wow. And there have 1070 01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:57.000 been heavy metal musicians and stuff that have died from standing too close to their 1071 01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:01.239 speakers on stage and stuff during Oh my God, it just made their heart 1072 01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:05.560 skip a beat because the bass frequency. Remember I told you sixty hertz in 1073 01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:10.359 the heart. So something low like that's coming in it goes boom boom in 1074 01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:13.359 the stin of your chest. Wow, you know, mess you up. 1075 01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.399 So And there's tons of research as well that tells you that plants will grow 1076 01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:23.079 in the presence of classical music. Yeah, well they'll die if you play 1077 01:29:23.159 --> 01:29:27.720 like a Miley Cyrus song or something. You know. So it's not just 1078 01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:31.239 heavy metal music. It's pretty much anything that isn't classical music. You know, 1079 01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:36.039 it's very dangerous. Yeah, there was a there was that Japanese scientist. 1080 01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:42.359 I'm going to forget his name again, but thank you. He did 1081 01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:46.239 that study on water and he shows photographs of the water molecules when they're exposed 1082 01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:51.600 to heavy metal music, and just the like level of destruction that has happened 1083 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:56.239 with those water molecules. It should be enough to get us to not want 1084 01:29:56.239 --> 01:30:00.520 to listen to any of that music for sure. Absolutely. And we have 1085 01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:06.039 Spotify and all these things that we can get tons of classical music, ancient 1086 01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:10.600 civilizations and things like that. We can find their music. There's people who 1087 01:30:10.680 --> 01:30:14.840 have found these things in there reproducing these pieces of music. And the way 1088 01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:17.840 that they did stuff was they were very intentional about the way that they played 1089 01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:21.800 the notes. It had to resonate in a particular way. Their musicians weren't 1090 01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:25.600 allowed to touch the instrument. They weren't allowed to be a part of the 1091 01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:30.119 orchestra unless they've mastered their spiritual self. Yeah, oh I love that. 1092 01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.800 I love that. Yeah, I love that. Person. There's a book 1093 01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:38.479 I was reading recently called The Dimensions of Paradise which speaks, you know, 1094 01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:44.319 to this. Partially, it's about really understanding the sacred geometry and the mathematical 1095 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:49.399 you know, like harmony that needs to be present in a civilization and you 1096 01:30:49.439 --> 01:30:57.239 know, any space to allow for that just natural paradise to unfold, to 1097 01:30:57.319 --> 01:31:00.840 allow write that down. What was that Dimensions of the Dimensions of Paradise. 1098 01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:06.079 It doesn't get specifically into the music side of things as much, but it 1099 01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:12.159 speaks to the sacred geometry and harmonic ratios that need to be in place, 1100 01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:15.880 and even like how a city could be planned, you know, or how 1101 01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:20.239 the ancients you know, planned their townships and cities and you know, all 1102 01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:25.119 of that to create harmony. So so we yeah, we could. We 1103 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:29.600 know now there's there's harmony and there's you know, disharmony, like we can 1104 01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:32.560 we can, yeah, we can start to like, uh, you know, 1105 01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:39.840 put some rigor behind you know, how we're structuring our environment, the 1106 01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:42.960 music, we're listening to, what we're watching, all of these things to 1107 01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:47.399 allow the body, the mind, the soul to come back into its harmonic 1108 01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:55.960 state, you know, a truly balanced, uplifted state. Yeah. Yeah, 1109 01:31:56.159 --> 01:31:59.760 that's that's it. We got to guard our consciousness because what we put 1110 01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:01.720 in is what we get out. It's hard for people to hear, but 1111 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:05.680 you know, I wouldn't tell anybody to do anything that I'm not doing in 1112 01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:11.199 my own life, and it helped me tremendously. Yeah. I haven't watched 1113 01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:17.439 a TV set in over seven years, and wow, Wow, I couldn't 1114 01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.720 care less. Wow, good for you. You're doing better than I am. 1115 01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:24.880 I still watch a little bit here, and they're not TV TV like 1116 01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:30.560 you know, Conscious Awakening Network stuff that sort of thing. But yeah, 1117 01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:34.079 it's it's it's like there has to be new protocol in place, and and 1118 01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:40.079 and for any Star Seeds who are listening to this, who have found this 1119 01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:45.239 like this is your mission to protect your consciousness, to to evolve it, 1120 01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:48.159 you know from where it's been from, you know where we got programmed in 1121 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:56.039 this life. And Jehan is an absolute excellent resource for you. And that 1122 01:32:56.199 --> 01:33:00.159 as we're as we're doing this work to get back to who we true we 1123 01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:02.520 are. And I like to I like to call that place the new human. 1124 01:33:02.800 --> 01:33:06.079 You know, we're it's really the ancient human, but we're we're bringing 1125 01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:12.199 that back and we're we're doing the work to transform to become that new human. 1126 01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:15.119 And that's why we're on the planet right now. It feels hard, 1127 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:17.960 it is big, it's a lot to take on, but it's what we're 1128 01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:24.880 here to do. And you know, I want to talk all about your 1129 01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:29.960 you know, other exploration, which is you know, past life memories you've 1130 01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.520 had in your connection with Star family. You know, I even want to 1131 01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:35.800 go back and talk about those beings that showed up, you know, when 1132 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:40.600 you were in the darkness, and and I think we're going to have to 1133 01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:44.800 save that for the next episode because we have we still have so much to 1134 01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:49.600 talk about but I think there's there's probably going to be some really amazing nuggets 1135 01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:56.239 and words of wisdom in that conversation as it relates to our star family and 1136 01:33:56.279 --> 01:34:01.960 how we're being guided and who we really are. So Jahan, we'll have 1137 01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:08.239 to do another conversation really soon. Fine by me. I like hanging out 1138 01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:14.239 with you, Okay? Cool? How can people find you and work with 1139 01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:17.520 you? So if you want to talk to me directly, you can send 1140 01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:26.880 me an email at self sabotage info at proton dot me, and you can 1141 01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:31.000 follow me on Instagram at Jahansatur that's j E h A N s A T 1142 01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:35.800 t A. You are awesome and we've got your links in the show notes 1143 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:43.439 below so everyone can grab those as well. And thank you everyone for tuning 1144 01:34:43.479 --> 01:34:47.479 in and engaging in this conversation. This is like deep stuff, you know, 1145 01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:54.720 This is important stuff to unpack and and and integrate into our lives and 1146 01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:59.279 into how we're operating. So I just so appreciate you for for being here, 1147 01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:03.920 and Ja for sharing yourself and your wisdom and your journey with the audience. 1148 01:35:03.960 --> 01:35:10.399 Thank you, Thank you, Jennen, and everyone tune in again soon 1149 01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:15.960 for part two, where we'll talk about our star family connections and some of 1150 01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:23.199 Jahan's other exploration and experiences that have happened, and we'll talk about how we 1151 01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:27.760 really get to know our true selves and that's a fun process when we start 1152 01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:31.239 to have those sorts of experiences. So well, we'll come back with another 1153 01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:36.640 conversation. Comment below or leave a review, let us know what you thought 1154 01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:42.600 about this chat, and we'll see you next time in the next episode. 1155 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:49.239 Bye for now. You're listening to the Bouldless Authenticity podcast where we discuss everything 1156 01:35:49.319 --> 01:35:55.680 related to the evolution of human consciousness. That's very nay. Will you to 1157 01:35:55.800 --> 01:36:00.960 understand the United States bills bunkers, which are big sucluse cities on your ground 1158 01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:06.439 every three months. Basically when you dream into your self conscious cities, your 1159 01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:15.920 loves and your intuition or creativity and imagination unchanged some conscious reason and rect aold 1160 01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:20.079 your laws quote for the soul by how I are consciousness spectology cultures of where 1161 01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:24.760 your right. We live in a multi dimensional reality, whether it comes through 1162 01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:30.319 esitary information in the spiritual realms or the UFO people experiences, or mainstream on 1163 01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:33.640 the physics and through natrem science. Now realizing that parallel dimensions probably exists. 1164 01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:38.199 We're all spiritual means, we're all having these human experiences. We've heard that 1165 01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:41.920 place over and over and over, But what does that really need? You 1166 01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:45.079 know, all of the questions of why do we have these answers inside of 1167 01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:48.560 our soul, We're ultimately studying the nature of what it is to be human, 1168 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:51.439 good and evil, our psychology, how we think, our health. 1169 01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:56.880 That's why I love Bruce Lee's great quote, all knowledge is ultimately self knowledged. 1170 01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:00.560 Foundage Authenticity Podcast f