Bundlish Authenticity Podcast. Hello and welcome back to the Star Family Wisdom Podcast.
I'm Jenna Leyden, your host, the founder of Star Family Wisdom, and
I'm also a former global vice president for Whole Foods Market And it's been a
profound spiritual and transformation journey that led me to this place having these sorts of
conversations with you and incredible guests. Star Family Wisdom is a paradigm shifting podcast
community and modern day mystery school for your spiritual and cosmic evolution. We're here
to help you get initiated into the mysteries of the universe, help you transform,
help you heal, help you come back into your connection with yourself,
with your Star Family your guides, and experience our multi dimensional reality in a
new way. And today's episode is a special one. You continue to just
encounter so many new soul family connections here on Earth, so it's like our
Star Family is helping me get connected to and meet all of the right people
at just the right time. And Jahan Satour is our guest today. Jahan
is also someone who has experienced profound past life recall. The recall of past
lives that are connected to Star Family off Earth, and part of Jahan's mission
is being a cognitive behavioral therapist, a hypnotherapist, a nutrition coach, a
mindfulness teacher, and expert, and he focuses specifically on subconscious self sabotage.
So Jahan has studied the mind in depth, and this is a topic I'm
passionate about because it's been a big, big part of my transformation experience,
learning how the subconscious mind works, understanding our programming, understanding what is driving
our experience of reality. So Jahan assists people in all walks of life in
how to be fully mindful and allow negative automatic thoughts about the events of our
external reality and the programs that we take on to reveal themselves so that new
patterns can be established and people can learn to operate from a place of peace
and purpose and passion. And a lot of Jahan's work focuses on removing those
disempowering thoughts and beliefs and helps you get you know better emotional control and helps
you experience you know better emotional circumstances as you do that. And Jahan really
focuses with clients on how to get them over that of going from disempowering beliefs
to an empowered state of being. As he said in the conversation, he
wants people to leave his office, his virtual office, as quickly as possible.
He wants people to be empowered, and so this conversation is all about
that. And Jahan has a special skill for language and really tuning in to
our language patterns and how that reveals where our blocks, our trauma, our
negative programming might be stemming from. So check out Jahansatur at Jahansatur dot com.
We've got his links below, and you can also check him out on
the Boundless Authenticity podcast where you get your podcast apps or on YouTube, and
you can check out my recent episode with him on his podcast. And that
was a fun episode where I was having a bad day, like I was
going through some transformation on that day, and instead of self sabotaging, which
I almost did, instead of canceling on Jayhan, I decided I need to
just be authentic and show what's going on and talk about it. So we
did that, and then in today's episode we go really deep on all aspects
of the subconscious mind and again how we transform and get our minds and our
neural networks into a different place. So enjoy this episode with Jahann and I'll
see you on the other side. Hi, Johan, Welcome, it's so
good to have you. Thanks for having me on with you. Jannon,
Oh, it's so good to have you on the show. We have so
much to talk about, and we want to talk kind of broadly about your
work in self sabotage, your work and mindfulness, your work in meditation and
mindset coaching, but you all also have some really interesting star family connections that
we want to talk about as well. So so you know, I think
this is going to be a really cool, well rounded conversation for our audience.
It's you know, important to me that when we're getting really cosmic and
out there with our journeys and exploration, that we're also keeping it grounded.
So I really appreciate that you bring that approach. So before we get into
all the things, I want to just open it up to hear a little
bit about how you got to this point. How did you even get to
being a mindset and self sabotage expert, cognitive behavioral therapist specialist, you know,
how did you even get into this sort of work? What led you
here? How much time do you have so I was a professional music for
so many years of my life. I started young. I started at fourteen,
playing my first shows on stage, and I got catapulted into the world
of sex, drugs, and rock and roll at a very early age.
I'm talking sixteen seventeen. So I started drinking and smoking pod and that led
to harder drugs and things like that. I'd had a lot of stuff going
on at homes, especially coming from my dad and my sister and stuff who
were very verbally abusive and manipulative and things like that. So I didn't know
how to deal with any of that. And back then, if you said
that someone was doing a particular set of things to you at home, you'd
get gas lit by your friends and family. They'd be like, oh,
no, not him. So I didn't know what to do with any of
that, and I guess I got stuck in a mind trap. Music took
me a lot of different places, and I was in such a low vibration
that I didn't know that good things were actually happening all around me in terms
of my career and stuff. So fortunately, after having a few really bad
experiences trying to overdose, just listening to the voices in my head, which
I actually think were entity attachments and stuff. Well, I should say think
I know they were. That makes sense that when we're in that really low
vibrational state, like that's when they attach. Yeah. Yeah. So,
after dealing with a lot of different things that led me down the road of
trying to take my own life a few times, I finally felt an actual
shift. Because I don't want to cuss on your show, but I actually
was like, wow, I can't even kill myself right, And the instant
I heard myself say that sentence out loud, something changed. It's hard to
really describe what that feeling was, but it was like a full body sensation.
I just went A light was on. So I started getting interested in
how can I better myself and those kinds of entity attachments, those lower states
you tend to reject anything that's positive. But because what I said out loud
came with such a profound feeling, opportunities that were completely opposite to what I'd
known before started coming to me. So books started showing up, and one
was a book by Sylvia Brown, The Psychic, and then it was other
things like Robert Green books and things like that, And I was so eager
to learn that. That just kind of took me on a journey of bettering
myself, and I traveled to Nashville, Tennessee to learn all about the music
industry and be a part of that. And things changed for me there because
I got exposed to the New Age spirituality at first, and then that changed
my life because I started really meditating then. And fast forward a couple of
years to being at a gig somewhere and this really tall guy walks up to
me and I'm talking to the sound engineer and I'm telling the guy, you
know, and plug this in over here. This guy's got to be over
here. The drummer should be doing this, you know, all these different
things. It's probably Boston, the guy around right. And this really tall,
blonde hair guy with blue eyes taps me on the shoulder, and I
mean, somebody looking at it must have been hilarious because I was kind of
like, what, you know, like he was that tall. I'm a
sure guy. Anyways, So he says, I notice you have a tremendous
affinity for leadership. Have you ever heard of coaching? And I was like,
now, hold on a second. I finished barking orders at the sound
guy. I turned back to the guy to say, hey, tell me
more about what you were saying, and he was gone. I searched the
entire bar for this guy. He was gone, and I thought of myself,
why would he just disappear like that? Who the hell says? Have
you ever heard of coaching? And then you dip like, right, that's
a weirdo thing to do. It's a very strange thing. So I went
home immediately. I just typed it in and then you know, stuff like
personal trainers came up and I saw Tony Robbins. I was like, hey,
I know that guy. So that's how I got involved in the coaching
aspect, and all of the with that comes along with that changed me for
the better because it got me curious. It got me aware of a different
world that was out there than what I'd known before, and it resonated on
such a high level that I just haven't looked back since then. And that
was ten years ago. Wow. Wow, what a beautiful transformation and divine
intervention. It sounds like, do you associate those moments back then of being
able to start down this new path and have that strength that willpower to do
that, and that man showing up, like, do you associate that with
divine intervention. I'll tell you what. There's a few things that I didn't
say, and it was on purpose because I was hoping you would ask me.
The first time that I tried to commit suicide, nothing happened. I
came back. I was really sick for like two weeks, and then I
got back on my feet. But then I went back down that dark path
again. But I knew something wasn't quite right with the way that I felt
that first time, so something changed. Then the second time I tried it.
It was because I still couldn't see a way out of anything, and
it was clear to me by then that nobody around me was interested in helping
me with my problems, which made it harder. And my dog woke me
up. He's gone now, he passed around this time last year, but
he was one of my guardians. He was sent here to protect me.
I found that out later. So he jumps on the bed and he puts
his paws on my face. He starts scratching my face and I could actually
feel myself slipping away. Oh, I feel my legs getting numb and everything.
And he started whimpering and scratching it. It started to hurt so bad
that it jarred me from that state. So I came back with him looking
at me and looking in my face and all kinds of stuff like that,
and I rolled off the side of the bed. And I was sick for
another few weeks or so again, and then again things seemed different, but
I just couldn't quite put my finger on what that was. So each time,
the very last time, the third time after that was a couple of
months after that. Still couldn't see a way out, Still couldn't figure out
what was different, what to do next, where to go, wasn't getting
any help. Friends weren't talking to me anymore. They thought I was kind
of crazy, to be honest. And all I had were these books and
my guitar, basically my only friend. And I was out, actually,
and I overdosed and I went into this dark, murky space. And so
all the cool kids are calling that a near death experience, right. I
didn't see any fancy lights or anything like that. It was just a dark,
brown, murky space. And I could tell that there were like what
I now know are some kinds of beings were around me. I could see
them in the corners of my vision and stuff like that, and there was
a frequency noise. I can't describe it, but that's all I heard.
All I know is is that I was out for maybe forty five minutes or
longer. Wow. And I came back in and I felt that feeling of
being sucked right back into the top of my head. And this time I
wasn't sick. Nothing happened. I just went about my day as normal.
I slept really long that night, and I was tired for like the next
week, but I didn't feel unwell or anything like that. Like something completely
changed, and I paid attention to that, but I still said what I
said. I still said, you know, I can't even kill myself,
right, what's going on? And that kind of was the key that unlocked
the door because the instant I said that. Within three days, actually we
were saying at number three. Within three days, books started showing up.
People were like, hey, you should read this book, and Aaron Beck's
book Prisoners of Hate. Aaron Beck is one of the founding fathers of cognitive
behavioral therapy. So I like to say CBT saved my life, actually,
and it was just the ideas in that book led to me getting fit,
led to me quitting all my other musical projects. And it turns out that
that stuff was holding me back because as soon as I cut ties with that,
then the next thing, you know, I was into manifesting territory.
Yeah. I started, well, I should say I was working out and
i'd run on the treadmill and I'd think of all the things that I wanted
to do. You know, when you're when you're running like that, you're
in the zero point because you're not thinking of anything else. Yeah, and
for what you can put your your focus on, right, and you're generating
a lot of energy too at the same time exactly. So at the highest
points of I guess running and stuff, i'd feel the surge of what I
thought was adrenaline going through my body. But I didn't know that I was
manifesting a whole new reality right and drawing that towards me. And so that
was when a lady showed up out of nowhere and she's like, hey,
I love your music. Is there anything I can do to help you?
It's like, yeah, I get me out of here. She was like,
well, I can't do that, but I own a gym and my
friend is this person I FBD pro bodybuilder and she sends me workout plans like
a couple of huns ndred dollars worth of supplements and stuff. She trained me
for free. Oh wow. She'd call me up yeah and tell me everything
I need to do. Then after that another lady showed up. She's like,
Hey, I'm from a radio station over here, and you know,
do you have a manager? Can I help you with anything? I was
like, yeah, you can help me with everything. And so that's how
I got my opportunity to get out of here and go to Nashville. And
so it just kind of threw me on what I think it was a redirection
of some divine intervention that threw me on this journey on purpose, including a
tall, blonde hair, blue eyed guy tapping me on the shower saying,
hey, have you ever heard of coaching? You know, it's all so
incredible, you know, these moments that emerge from that darkness, and I
just want to honor you and your experiences and your journey for a moment and
just applause you, you know, for the strength you had to to go
down that path of exploration and wellness and look at look at you now,
you know, I mean, you're such an example of what's possible and and
I think that's such a beautiful thing to share with the world. So I
just so appreciate your vulnerability and authenticity. Speaking of your podcast, Boundless Authenticity.
Thank you. You know, I think that's it's so important to have
these conversations and and that that moment of questioning, you know, it's like
that moment of you know, maybe not even asking for help necessarily, but
even just questioning reality. You know, like just questioning like what's going on
here. It's like that can be that trigger for you know, the the
beings, the team. You know that that is you know, part of
us to to swoop in and start to help in some way, to help
to help break through the illusion. Yeah, you know, thank you for
seeing me first of all. But you know that's the dualistic nature of things.
The darkness always imposes itself on you, but the light is waiting on
you to ask for help, or waiting on you to demonstrate a willingness to
change. That's why I love to tell everybody. Until your desire to change
is greater than your desire to stay the same, nothing's going to break through
for you, and something as simple as a thought like there has to be
something more than this can as well be dualistic. It can keep you in
darkness where it can lead you to the light, you know, and I
experienced both ends of the spectrum with that, right, Yeah, yeah,
wow, that the being the man, whoever that was, who showed up.
You know that. We hear lots of stories about, you know,
people in these moments of crossroads or you know, major life events or danger,
some person showing up out of the blue in a split moment with some
helpful comment, some helpful you know, physical action, whatever it is,
and then poof, they're gone, you know, like there are so many
stories like that. I just want to pause on that for a moment for
the audience, because I think that to me, you know, I had
chills the whole time you were talking, and and you know, I'm tuned
in enough now to feel truth, you know, to feel you know,
what's under the surface, and it it feels to me like like that was
divine intervention. That was divine intervention, Like that was an angel, that
was a being from somewhere else who took physical form for a moment to support
you. Yeah, that was a nudge. I mean I jokingly say all
the time, like, nobody's talking to me, like guides and stuff.
Don't talk to me the way that they talk to other people. But the
reason for that is because that's not my dominant sensibility. So I'm not you
know, I'm probably just not listening. They move stuff around in the physical
environment for me, or they bring people to me, and I am smart
enough to know to pay attention, you know, like not everybody's got guides
and stuff. They're like, hey, dude, you're doing this right,
you know. You know everybody has that luxury. Yeah, people have you
know, they have to interact with the physical world a little bit more and
look for those synchronicities to work with them, you know. Yeah, that's
such an example of how they're all all around, you know, when we
are just open to receiving them. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's so true.
They all they're always all around. Yeah. I want to I want
to talk a little bit about cognitive behavioral therapy and and and how how that,
you know, helped you in this this shift, because I haven't even
really talked about it with our audience or with you. I think that That
was a really critical part of me coming out of my darkness, when I
first started waking up spiritually and and and started gaining this awareness of how destructive
my mindset was for myself and and just how how negative and how how I
would go down these really negative spirals really easily. And and so I just
I want to highlight that for a moment, And how you just explain,
you know, what is it? And and how do you now or how
did you use it then to help yourself, you know, kind of over
this this hurdle, And then how do you use it now with clients?
Oh, first of all, let me hit you with some quotes. We
love a good quote. Ernest Hemingway said you can't get away from yourself by
moving from one geographical place to another. That was a lesson that I learned
everywhere I went there. I was, so I kind of kind of I
kind of took the Aaron Beck book as a point of awareness for myself.
When I say that, I mean it made me aware the extent of other
people's darkness. And not very many people can honestly look at their lives and
be like, oh, well, my life's not as bad as that,
And then begin to change. Because of that, a lot of people want
to stay with the ego and say, oh, well, they don't know
what they're talking about, and continue to validate that. And that's kind of
what got me started and got me looking with new eyes, as Marcel Proust
would say, you know. And then I began getting very interested in what
actually is cognitive behavioral therapy, what are the processes involved? So I started
reading things like there's a book called CBT for anxiety and things like that.
I was an anxious person as well, me too, big time. Yeah,
And as you know, anxiety and depression tend to hang out together,
yep. I had that when one goes away, the other shows up and
says, hey, I heard you were lonely. And I had to work
my way through that. And I realized that what I learned in those textbooks,
it was so clinical that it just didn't have any real substance to it
at all. Actually, So I decided that I was going to go take
a course in it, take a class in it, you know, And
once I realized how it worked, I was like, this is brilliant.
Everything is going to be good from now on because now I've got the tool
that I need, and I simplified it for myself. It's A plus B
equals C. A is the activating event or the trigger, B is your
belief, and C is the emotional consequence. So A plus B equals C
and the consequence is as a result of what you believe about the event.
And once I started walking around all day long, every day asking myself the
same question, Okay, what is it I believe about this and actually listen
to the chatter in my head and saying, okay, well I'm going to
ask you some more questions mm hm, things opened up for me. And
the meditation is what helped with that as well, because through the meditation I
could take things down a notch and get some clarity to actually hear my true
spiritual self, which is the thing that appears to be under attack twenty four
to seven from everything in the external world. Right yeah, yeah, It's
like our world is heavily designed to support the ego flourishing and to support us
going down those those darker paths of thought. I think that the whole idea
of like challenging yourself is really cool. You know, like once you kind
of gained that awareness and you're like, wait a second, hold on here,
hold on here, let me ask myself some questions about these beliefs.
I had a similar experience where I almost got mad, Like once, once
I found some of this information, I was like, whoa, why am
I? Like? How did I get this way? You know, Like,
why am I, you know, believing all these negative things when actually
there's a flip side, there's you know, the positive possibilities, you know,
and all of the positive what ifs, you know, I could be
thinking about it. It kind of fired me up, Like did you feel
that way too? Were you? Like, I'm going to get to the
bottom of this now that I've now that I've got the keys. Yeah,
it made me pick up the shovel and start digging. Really and if you
dig long enough, you'll find some beliefs and they are shocking. It's shocking
what lies under the surface, just waiting for you to address, you know.
So yeah I did, and I used that anger. In fact,
I tell my clients you've got to get to a point where you feel anger,
because if you look at the Hawking scale of consciousness, angers right before
the willingness, that's the breakthrough, right yep. And then it goes up
to neutrality, and then it goes all the way up to the good stuff
like love and enlightenment and things like that. Right, So you even in
the psychological model the change curve by Elizabeth Kogler ross Anger is a necessary step
to moving towards, you know, the things that you want. So it
did become new fire to propel me, and I never gave upon myself.
You know, that's the key. You can't expect anybody else in this world
to really invest that much interest in you, because unfortunately, the average person
is only interested in one thing, and that's themselves. Everybody's got a full
plate, you know. The sooner we understand that and not take it as
a personal attack and realize we've got to do it, We've got to do
the thing, it gets a little bit easier to be honest. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like that's self responsibility piece. You know, It's like we
we all want to be there for each other, but also also we're responsible
and should should be able to pick up the mantle and and do the work.
Yeah, that's that's what we've got to do, because ultimately, no
one's going to do it for us. Yeah, someone might provide us the
tools and help and books and you know, hold space for us. But
then we go home to ourselves and we have to arrive at insight. Yeah,
the site builds upon insight until we reach wisdom. But we get the
wisdom from applying the insight, right, right, We have to do it
on our own. And and you know, you can listen to the best
podcast, you can read the best book, and you can have the best
gurus or best psychologists or whatever. But when you are by yourself, are
you actually following through with your word? Are you are you staying in integrity
with yourself? Are you keeping yourself in check? That's how we get to
wellness, That's how we get to spiritual insight, That's how we access the
levels. And everything on the outside, like I already said, is designed
to keep us under a thumb on purpose. That's the point of Earth School,
right rights, can you spy the light? You know? Well,
it's like that. The egos also designed to keep us in this experience of
separation too, you know, it's it's and because of where we're at and
our evolution on Earth, it kind of seems like because we're at this point
where these sorts of breakthroughs are so much more possible for us now, where
we're able to gain awareness about the programming we've taken on and the negativity of
our culture and all of that. It's it's almost like our egos individually and
collectively are just fighting that. You know, They're like, no, no,
don't see the truth. Don't see the truth, don't go there.
And so there's also this like when you're kind of at that point of breakthrough
for some people, you know, I recognize there's also this this like pull
from the ego to come up with every excuse it will come up with to
not allow you to do your practices or follow through on you know, your
new beliefs whatever that is. How do you help people through that? Because
there is that very real, like beginning stage of implementing new practices, changing
your beliefs, shifting your programming that does require that follow through that practice.
And when the ego starts acting up and you know, acting like a child
and not wanting you know, to follow through with you like, how do
you help your clients through that stage of transformation? You nailed it. It's
a tug of war, it really is. And besides the CBT thing I
really got involved in hypnotherapy because when you studied life coaching and stuff, they
tell you, yeah, the subconscious mind's doing ninety five percent of the stuff
for you. They show you the Iceberg model, but then to get away
from it very quickly, and they never say, Okay, well, what
is in that ninety five percent, right, and how do you change it?
Exactly? And so self sabotage is that thing that we do subconsciously for
the majority of our lives until we become aware of the fact that we can
self sabotage our best attempts. And that's where people get stuck because when they
get to the point where they know, Okay, I am the only person
here that's messing up my whole life. How do I change that? They
panic because they don't know how to do anything about that. Yeah, and
scary place to be like that, Like that that is like this really uncomfortable
moment to be in. I've had a lot of those moments. Yeah,
you've got to get really good at knowing when you're about to self sabotage.
And what happens with clients is they just don't know how to do the things
that they don't know how to do. They don't realize that we're all in
different states of hypnosis all day long. That's what makes the Earth School thing
such a terrible thing at first, because until you know for a certainty that
you're hypnotized all the time, and that even and if that's just a function
of the brain needing to go into alpha brain wave for seven hours every day
to process all the information, I like to say that the conscious mind is
just there to keep us from bumping into stuff. And that's just about all
there is to it, you know, Like it's really I don't want to
say, I don't want to say that it's useless, but it really does
have like a very low usability features. It's kind of like a number fourteen
spanner or something. You can only turn nuts that size, you know,
you can only turn both sides right well. And this is like the paradox
of it too, you know, because it's like we think we're conscious,
right, think we think we are running the show, but it's it's kind
of like our brain's actually a computer and it's just running. It's just running
a program. Our body is just running a program exactly, and it's just
one program after the next, all day long. So what happens to people
is that your level of safety is determined by the external world and they aren't
yet rooted inside of themselves. So as I love to say, the human
body is the technology. All this this stuff that we have, like,
that's not technology. That's nothing compared to what the human body can do,
right, and it never will reach that point. So it's just something that
we have that is a vehicle for the expression of our consciousness. And we're
told from the time we are born that we don't have any power. You
know, you can't you can't do all those things that you think you can
do. And when we're you know, five six years old, we're having
all of these experiences and interacting with the home vibration, the frequencies that those
realities and our parent and tell us that we're crazy essentially, you know.
So that's the kind of the kind of reality that we're brought up in it
and it's our responsibility throughout our lives to kind of note that and say,
wait a minute, this keeps happening. But unfortunately we get programmed with things
like I'm not good enough, I'm not safe. Somehow I don't understand what
it feels like to be loved and supported by the creator. We get programmed
with resentment, rejection. We just continue to bump our heads against the threshold
of joy and success. Yeah, every chance we get, and we don't
know it's coming from all things that happened, not just in zero to six
years old, lived before that, right and ancestral trauma, you know,
because it's like whatever programming has existed on Earth for all of our ancestors,
and this, you know, a few thousand years of patriarchy that has existed,
Like we're taking on all of that too. So it's like we're we're
digging out of something big here. And I think that's also important to acknowledge
for people, because this is big work. You know. It's it's not
as easy as just awakening spiritually and poof. You know, you're you're you're
healed, You're you're you're living this life of love, joy and prosperity.
You know, we're we're having to dig out of multi generational, thousands of
years of distorted programming, a distorted reality essentially. Mm hmm. That's absolutely
correct. You're just talking about what I what I like to call the history
level. That's all the past lives or genetic memory that's in the collective consciousness,
you know. And I love to use the example of the past three
years we just went through a lot of people reacted to that situation really bad
because they remember other times. It's in our DNA too, yeah, yeah,
and they don't they don't realize. They think that their responses were perfectly
rational and perfectly normal, but really it's just our replaying of stuff that they
experienced before. So we have that stuff that happens all the time. You
know, we do crazy stuff in our lives because in a past life we
did it too, and it got us results then, you know, So
we can't just I guess what I'm going with this is, we can't just
shove everything into the childhood trauma box right right right, Yeah, It's so
multi layered. There's a lot lot going on here, and so you use
hypnotherapy to help people. I'm a huge fan of hypnotherapy. I've employed it
as well. Like you, It's like, once I figured out, oh
my gosh, like I have a really big hole to dig out of here.
You know, I have a lot of neural networking to change in my
brain. It's like I need all the tools. So how do how do
you use it and how do you use it personally? And how do you
use it with clients? Well, you know, I think the job as
a therapist or a coach or anything like that, your responsibility is to help
the people who are like you because you know that situation best and you can
kind of say, okay, here's my hand. I've been that way before.
You got to go this way to get out of it. Right,
So I don't give anybody anything to do that I haven't done myself, and
then I don't know where if it works or not. Right, So my
whole mindset is realizing human beings at the highest level of evolution, all sleepwalk.
Nobody's isolated from that. We're all sleepwalking, we're all in trance.
So you have to hack the subconscious mind in the same way that it experienced
reality every single day in a state of trance. Right. So, sometimes
meditation can be a good tool. Sometimes muscle testing can be a good tool
to diagnose beliefs. Sometimes just talk therapy can be a good tool. But
I encourage people most of all to learn how to meditate, learn how to
be consciously aware using their breath, using the body, because the subconscious mind
is inside of the body, as we know, and learn how to question
your negative automatic thoughts that we just have, which is just this egoic commentary
all day long about this thing and that thing. And what that does is
it forces you to figure out what your spiritual self is, who that is
at the core, what you value? What are your ways of relating to
the world. How do I learn? Am I an auditory based person?
Am I a visual based person? Do I mostly feel things? What is
my what is my flavor of judgment? Because everybody has their own little way
of judging things. They judge themselves the same way they judge everything else in
the outside world. Once you get used to that, you can tell the
difference between a lie and the truth very easily. So you just want to
learn how to question your reality and become a critical thinker and blend that with
the ability to induce yourself into a trance on your own. Because my goal
is to get people away from me as quickly as possible. Like you,
I don't want to see somebody coming back to me for a whole year,
you know, Yeah, you don't want them on training wheels that long.
No I just kind of want to push them off the plank. You know.
It's like clip your nose and I'm going to push you. Tough love.
Tough love from Jehan. Yeah, you kind of have to do all
of it yourself anyway. No amount of babying is to help. I'm not
into the caudal culture because it's kind of like reinstalling the same programs over again
after you do some work on it. You can want to talk about something
for so long before it gets old and stagnant, and now you're into a
lower frequency and you feel worse than you did before, right, And that
just maintains like a victim kind of mindset when we spin on the things that
are the problem and the excuses and all of that and yep, yeah,
it's the top in mud. Yeah, And it's like, we want to
get out of the victim mindset. We want to get into an empowered place
where we're we feel empowered to change. Yeah. So usually if I'm being
completely honest and frank about it, I just figure out what the programs are
the person's running, and then I say, okay, let's go into a
trance like state. And I was telling you about it before we started interview.
You just close your eyes, you look up, you look right around
here, and you begin to look up through the levels, and I have
the person take their consciousness out of the body through a series of lights and
into a space that feels like a spider's web almost, and that disengages the
rational mind. It gets the body, which is the technology involved in the
process, in a way that it understands that something is happening. It teaches
the person to feel the frequencies and the different vibrations that go along with the
different levels of awareness, et cetera. It reconnects them to their spiritual self
because when you come out of that space, you want to go into a
bright white light that you realize once you get there, it's home. It's
a part of you. You are that light, and it's a very comfortable
space to be in. And so then we just go through whatever it is
before that we came up within our the talk section of the session, whatever
the program is, we change that to the opposite. And so the language
of the subconscious mind is very simple, but it's also very strange to figure
out on your own, because when people are jumping around in front of a
mirror, doing affirmations and stuff. That's not always the right way to go
about changing it. They think that you can just repeat something a million times.
But if you say I am enough and the program is I am enough,
No, the subconscious mind is going to be like, Nope, nuh
huh, that's not what it's in here. Eactly. And if there's like
an underlying belief that is really driving, you know, whatever's going on with
someone like you might be using affirmations that aren't even like connected to bidding it
belief, Yeah, exactly. It's like a belief is like a table with
four legs, honestly, and you have to knock out. You have to
take each leg off to get to their root belief. So you could be
saying I am enough, and that's not even really the full issue. It's
connected to all those other things. Like you said, it could be I'm
not enough because I don't understand what it feels like to experience this emotional situation.
And so that's another part of the language of the subconscious I don't understand
what it feels like. The understanding of what it feels like is critical to
the equation. But you can't You also can't mimic that by feeling as much
emotion as you can and anchoring it. Like they tell you all the time,
that's not like a plaster for every store. And these techniques have a
time and a place, and so you really have to figure out what language
is being used, because I like to say, all of life we experience
through a linguistic prison. You know, we lock ourselves in one little prison
or another. It's I am not this or I am that, and we
have to figure out, well, what is it I really believe about this?
What are the thoughts that are going along with these beliefs, Because even
after you pull the I am enough no and you changed I am enough yes,
then you're going to experience, for like a week or two, all
of these different thoughts, and you're going to realize that your judgments on things
change, You're the way that you reflect on yourself changes, and you have
to do stuff with that too. So I have to take my clients through
that process to really sit with them and be able to understand what is happening
now, because if you don't, they'll self sabotage again, you know,
like they'll go back to doing things or hanging out with people who kind of
reinstall things, you know, right, it's like you have to, Yeah,
like you have to examine your whole lifestyle in a way because pretty much
everything we were carrying in terms of those beliefs came from the life we were
living. So if we're really wanting to be serious about this level of transformation,
that then has this kind of like ripple like domino effect almost in terms
of weeding out, you know, parts of your life that aren't supportive for
these new beliefs, and that that's a hard process. How how did that
go for you personally as you got into this kind of later stage of transformation
where you you really were taking on this new life, you know, a
lot changes, you know, how did you navigate that for yourself? Well,
first of all, I see what you did there, transformation. That
was good. That was nice little con trans you know. Yeah, I
I realized that it was going to be kind of like what I just said,
It was going to be this on going journey forever of being willing to
be with my breath and really trust the breath because that's the thing that slows
down the thoughts, that's the thing that keeps the limbic system, the emotional
part of the brain in check that I can then combine my rational thinking mind
with my emotional mind and try to meet myself somewhere in the middle, which
is where all the wisdom about the situation is at. And it became a
constant journey of knowing when I was having a reaction to something and judging something
or feeling the wrong emotion when I should really be trying to re reframe something
and look at it from a different way. You know, that's that's the
easiest way for me to explain it in a short way. You know,
what about relationships in your life? So I know that's probably one of the
hardest things for us when we're on this path of transformation. You know,
it requires relationship changes sometimes or changes in how we're relating to the people we
love. What was that like for you? Did you have any hard conversations
you know, as a result of this, did you have to change friend
groups? Like? What is what was that like? It was terrible?
It was terrible. I had to give up all my friends. And you
know, the biggest piece of insight I can say there is that people come
into your life, people leave your life. Everything has an expiration date,
whether you want to admit that or not. And if let's say someone is
a particular way and you don't agree with it and it's towards you, you
have to sit that person down and you have to say to them the hard
stuff. You have to say, Hey, listen, when you do or
say this thing I feel this way, don't say it makes me feel.
Take responsibility for it, because your emotions are generated inside of you. When
you say it makes me feel. Really, what you're saying is that you're
making yourself a victim over somebody else's actions, and that's not healthy for your
thought process. Say to them this thing that you do, I react automatically
by this. Can we talk about that a lot of people don't want to
have that conversation. A lot of people are like, you're the problem.
I don't do that. Yeah, and then that's how you know where you
stand with somebody. Yeah, you can. You can only be like okay,
and then you go up on your own you're like, okay, so
this person does this thing. They don't see that they do that thing.
I can't make them see that. What do I do that provokes that response
from them? Adds to the energy of that situation creates that situation with my
thinking, where do I mentally consent to that? And you work on yourself
that way, because it's kind of like that old adage, right when when
you judge somebody, when you point the finger, you got three fingers pointed
back at you, right, exactly, exactly, doesn't matter what the other
person does, right, some people are never going to change. You can
do the greatest I don't know, shamanic techniques, you can do, the
reversing techniques, all that kinds of stuff. You can forgive them till you're
blue in the face. They're never going to change, right, because that
is their frequency, right, So it's on you to make a change.
So then you have to decide how are you going to deal with this?
Exactly you stay or do you go? Like that? Sometimes that's it,
you know. I know when I was in this phase of really realizing I
had major mindset shifts that needed to happen, and I started doing the work.
Well, then all of a sudden, I started really recognizing that a
lot of my connections with people at the time, we're centering around happy hours
and drinking and discussion that was more or less negative, right, like just
griping and you know, being victims about stuff as people do, like we
tend to connect over our trauma and over those sorts of things, and so
all of a sudden I recognized, Wow, I think for me to be
healthy and to be able to successfully make this change, I can't do happy
hours like I've been doing. I think I have to cut that out of
my life at least for a while until I can, you know, really
get myself in a solidly reprogrammed, healthier place. And that's hard, you
know, it's hard saying goodbye or letting go, But like you said,
it's this process you know, we go through in all aspects of our life
that is natural. We're all okay, but not something we're really taught either,
which makes it harder. Yeah, And you know what, we are
programmed to believe that the people that are in our lives should be in our
lives forever and that things aren't ever going to change, and that actually compounds
our beliefs about the way life should be. Right. Someone can leave your
life or they can stay in your life, but it doesn't mean anything about
that person or about you. It just means that you have a mission and
they don't fit into that. It doesn't have to be this unloving thing.
And I'm very vocal about this. We see a lot of that in mean
culture, the so called personal development culture, that tells us as soon as
someone isn't who you think they should be for you, you got to cut
them off right right. Difficult people exist. That's just a hard reality,
and it's not for you to say how they should be. They can only
be who they are based on what they're programmed with, what their experiences are,
and what their level of insight is. I have people in my life
that are terrible to your own, but it doesn't bother me anymore because that's
just their thing. That's what they're here to do. They have to learn
those lessons and they have to be willing to change and be better. But
you can't want more for someone than what they want for themselves. That's what
I'm saying. Yeah, that's that's beautiful advice. We impose, we impose
our will, our expectations on people a lot. That imposition of expectation is
not love at all. Yeah, it isn't, you know. And we
we're entering a stranger time in humanity where there's a lot more stuff that we're
not gonna like, but we have to accept it so that we don't lose
our sanity, you know, and have compassion compassion, right like, if
we're if we're spiritual people and you know, are wanting to live a healthier,
more loving life. Passion as part of that doesn't mean we're condoning or
getting involved in the mix, you know, of a victimhood or whatever it
is. But we can still hold space for that and be compassionate and loving
towards those people. Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be so many times
where you're just like a what and you know, it's not for you to
understand. If you don't understand it and you can't find a point of compassion,
stop worrying about it. It's not yours to carry, it's not yours
to own. You know. We're going to see a lot of situations that
are like that coming up for the next few years or so where our ability
to empathize is going to be tested. But sometimes empathy sounds a whole lot
like I just don't understand, dude, I just don't understand what you're saying
or doing. I just and it's probably just not for me. It's past
that and you have to do your own thing, know how it goes,
because I have no idea what it feels like to be in your shoes,
have no clue. That's a beautiful way to put it. And I think
so often, you know, we come, we see a difference, and
that triggers us, right or or or we then kind of get combative,
you know, with someone in that moment because again we're like in this kind
of imposing place where we're wanting to fit them into our version of reality or
whatever. So I think that was such a beautiful way to frame up just
how to offer a statement to someone that that holds space for them and honors
them and their journey, but also kind of gives you the space you need
in it too. I think that that was so beautiful. So thank you
for sharing that with the audience. Well you're welcome. I mean, you
got to listen to people, right, You just have to listen to them.
Sometimes you just you aren't going to like what you hear, and yeah,
that's that's your problem. Yeah, more than anything else. If you
don't like what you hear, and then you got to figure out, okay,
am I right to feel the way that I do about what this person
just said to me. Right, because sometimes you are right, you know,
like it take the egoistic thing out of it. Sometimes you are right
to feel that way, you know, and you have very good reasons why
you feel that way, because it's that it goes against your values. Right,
it's not always about programming. Sometimes it goes against your values. It's
not that you're having cognitive dissonance on something. So like you just know better
because you've been there, you've been past it, or you just you know
certain things, or like truth is a big frequency that you feel, and
once something resonates at that frequency and you get good at feeling it, you
know what's truth and what's fiction. Right, Yeah, and so you kind
of, you know, to honor yourself at that point, you say,
okay, well, you know it's fine to have differences because guess what,
this is a hard one for people to get. Differences can make two people
or you and a group of people, or whatever this case is, make
it stronger, make things work right. Well, people are so concerned with
being right, But what I can be right, You can be right,
he can be right, she can be right, We can all be right
and still be in different places of awareness and still work together on certain things
that we can all agree to focus on and forget the rest of the stuff.
Right, And it's like, it's like each soul comes into this experience
with its own unique gifts and talents and skills and wisdom and perspective, and
we need all those differences to make up a harmonious whole. Like that is
the point, right, right, But it's in how we navigate those differences
together and how we recognize the beauty in those and find a way to fit
the puzzle pieces together, I guess, right. And then there's and then
unfortunately, there's going to be the other layers to that, where there are
people where you realize, oh boy, that person's brain is dangerous, the
content to that person's brain is dangerous. I have to limit my exploiture to
this person. You know. That's just to be real because a lot of
people, you know, don't want to talk about that aspect. But it's
I don't think a lot of this stuff was meant to be cut and dry,
yeah, And I think we expect stuff to be rigidly one way or
another, you know. Yeah, Yeah, the universe is complex and it's
designed like it's it's beautifully simple and complex at the same time. And that's
a whole that's a whole nother conversation, I guess, but like we probably
don't have time for that whole conversation. But but there there is something,
yeah, about this whole life experience that we often want to fit into like
a box or make it really easy or or or just not allow for the
complexity and the differences that are there. And yeah, I think that's an
interesting thing to reflect on it, especially at this time and human civilization.
You mentioned you're you're kind of expecting, you know, challenges to continue and
there to be, you know, continuing a few years of things that we're
going to have maybe some challenge dealing with or seeing or meeting. And I
want to get your opinion on that because I think there's you know, there's
also this aspect of what's happening in the world that requires us to go through
a grieving process at times, you know. So, so you mentioned recognizing
where certain behaviors or actions whatever that is, whether it's a person, organization,
corporation, government, whatever, you recognizing when that is counter to your
morals, your ethics, your truth and and I think for a lot of
people who are waking up, they're recognizing there's a lot that's counter to whatever
moral you know, integrity they feel they have, and and that's a hard
thing to face and recognize and deal with. And so, you know,
we've been talking about the like depth of distortion and programming that we're digging out
of, and our civilization is continuing to go through massive challenges as we evolve
and as we try to break through this current era of distortion. So how
do we hold both of those things and how do we how do we like,
how do we look at you know, the world around us and and
move forward with our positive programming and getting to you know what I like to
call kind of like a miracle mindset, you know, where we're really you
know, in flow with the way the universe is meant for us to engage
while also living in this reality and holding space for what's happening on this planet.
That was a lot, So you're busted over laugh, Yeah, you
made me laugh. I had to because that is such a difficult concept to
unpack. It's a lot. The main thing about it is that the more
aware you become, the more complex life seems to be because you notice all
of these different layers that were in between the layers that you first saw that
you didn't you really wait, that's another thing I haven't seen yet, And
you're like, I thought, I already figured that out, and it just
it keeps going on like da. But like I said to you, one
of the things that I talk about a lot in relation to this topic is
that everyone is programmed. And when someone is seeing through the filter of a
program, it doesn't matter what you say or what you do. You can
be like this and they can't hear you, and they can't see you,
and they're not going to They have to get there on their own time,
and they have to go through the discomfort and do the inner rewiring on their
own to be able to understand what you're saying. And and so, like
I usually I explain to people, it is a war on consciousness that we
are witnessing, especially at this time more than ever before. And to get
around that stuff, you really want to grow, you have to guard your
consciousness because we put so much stuff in our bodies, or we're exposed to
so much stuff toxic, heavy metals and things like that. Caffeine is a
big one, Sugar, all these things that affect our brains, and if
our brains aren't working correctly, our thinking is not going to be working correctly.
And we're we are in an even deeper state of hypnosis than we ordinarily
would be around certain things, and so we can't really see the daylight creeping
in, so to speak. It makes it difficult, and so we're constantly
bombarded with stuff that is darkness to kind of close the curtains on us more
and more, and we have to isolate ourselves from those things. I'm not
saying go live on a mountain in Tibet or something. You could if you
wanted to, highly recommend doing that. Actually highly recommend moving to Tibet.
While I did that, I left my life in Texas and moved to Sedona,
Arizona. So I you know, I was following guidance that I was
receiving, but it was also you know, this this moment of I need
to be somewhere else, I need to be somewhere just a little more isolated,
so I can, you know, I can really focus on what I
need to focus on and not be caught up in the rat race of city
life. Well, there's a very good reason for that. If you have
a plant and it's in too small of a pot and it's become root bound,
what do you do? You have to put it in a bigger pot.
Right. So if you eat planting seeds in the same space and you
realize it's not growing, it's the soil, it's not the seed, right.
So not everyone can get away from where they're at. Now everyone can
relocate. So what do you do. You look at the things in your
environment. But your environment is your diet too, right, So mentally,
what's your diet? Physically what's your diet? What's your nutrition? Because all
these things are factors that block our spiritual self. I tell people turn off
the damn TV. Just turn it off, right, unless you're watching the
Star Family Wisdom, to turn off the damn TV. Thank you, Yes,
programming, Conscious Awakening Network or something yeah TV, because it's putting information
into your brain that is essentially garbage. And then you wonder why you create
garbage in your life. This consciousness just replicates what it sees. Yeah,
it's looking to recreate an experience. And the limbic system is a recording device.
So when you watch a horror movie or a music video, and they're
doing whatever they're doing, and you like that. Your olympic system loves that.
It records and remembers that, and so you begin to act that way
in scenarios that are similar to that according to it, not according to your
personality. So we're being tricked because control of perception is the name of the
game, right even music, Like you talk about this also, like you're
like you're real big on media music and help people discern, you know,
between conscious media and media that is just putting garbage in our heads. Like
you said, what about music specifically? Oh? Man, No, See
this is my area because I lived that life. I became a drug dependent
narcissist because because I thought that was how I was supposed to act in order
to play in a rock and roll band or whatever. I thought I was
supposed to be that guy. And we emulate those things that we see on
the music videos and you know, the music channels. I don't even know
if they still have MTV and stuff like that. I grew up with MTV,
So Carson Daily, remember Carson Daily, DRL all those things, you
know, So, I mean, all of that affects you on a subconscious
level. It's trying to dictate to you who you should be, and it's
taking you away from your spiritual self. Your spiritual self is what informs how
you operate in this world in what is your personality, what are your values
and those kinds of things. But if you are watching something on a screen,
it's turning off the prefrontal cortex, the frontal lobe. And that's a
very bad thing because that's where your rational thinking, your critical thinking, and
your spirituality comes from. Right, And that's done on purpose. I can't
even I can't even sugar quote that that's done on purpose, Like they know
what they're doing with that stuff, right, Yeah, every operation has a
marketing team. All of the marketing teams for the most part, have a
good understanding of how the mind works and how to position things and how to
program right and these and in this day and age too, I should also
just comment, you know, people just get raised in that system like they
don't even know that that is wrong, you know, like they they're just
doing that because that's their job. And it actually is just this full scale
mind control game that has been monetized exactly, and they do stuff just to
comment on that before I get back on about the music. They have these
teams of scientists that will set up warehouses in the middle of the night to
put products on fake shelves, and they'll invite people to come to do these
studies to hook you up to brain scans and monitor your facial responses and all
these things. They've got that down to a science to try to sell you
stuff or to know whether the next episode of the Bachelor is going to have
a particular impact on you. You know, things like that. So don't
ever think for a second, or anybody that's listening, don't ever think for
a second that any of this stuff is innocent. There's a lot of people,
like you said, they're involved, and they just don't know it.
That's not that their pay grade, that's not what they do. They don't
know that stuff is going on behind the scenes. They just get a bunch
of paperwork that says this is what we're doing, and they're like, okay,
well, boss says this, we do that totally. Well I should
one more little sidebar before we get back to the music. You know,
before I was awake, you know, I was in the corporate world,
you know, for a long time, and in retail, and there's just
these aspects of retail and merchandising that are commonplace, right that the marketing you
know, processes and strategies, it's just commonplace across all of business. And
you know, for the longest time, didn't even think twice about it,
right, because I was in this like sleepwalking place, this unconscious place that
that's just what we do, you know, that's just the way the world
works. And and then as you start to wake up a little more to
it, you do start to realize, no, there really is this like
and again a lot of it's on conscious you know. So I'm not calling
out, you know, every single person in the corporate world for this,
because a lot of people are just going along with what they've been taught,
how the system has been developed. But yeah, it's just awful. Like
like if you if you, if you got to the point of, you
know, like judging a civilization based off of its spiritual integrity, you know,
we would be failing miserably, right because we're just walking around manipulating each
other constantly in this world and school. Yeah, and it's like and even
in the you know, the online business world, I just want to comment
on this for a second. You know, there's also this aspect of online
marketing and business that requires some of the same tactics. And you know,
as I've been developing Star Family Wisdom, it's like, yeah, you want
to build an email list, you want to send out some emails, you
want to connect with people. But at the same time, as I started
learning from all of these other you know, business and watching and you know,
studying what's going on out there, I just started to develop this huge
resistance to copying what they're doing because it's essentially the same thing that's going on
out there in brick and mortar retail. We've just translated it to the online
world, and we're just trying to manipulate people's you know, response time and
neural networks and triggers to get them to buy stuff. Right, It's like
utilizing this like scarcity mindset and the lack mindset and feeding off of people's you
know, worthiness issues and stuff. And the amount of anyone listening who's running
a spiritual business. This might be for you if you know the amount of
spiritual businesses out there that are operating with those sorts of tactics, and you
know, it's not to say you can't run a sale or offer something at
a discount every once in a while, you know, that's okay, But
like there's a level of that that starts to get into really playing off of
people's issues and playing off of the mind control that is possible. And so
you know, I just challenge everyone out there who's at any sort of business,
you know, to really think twice about that, and you know,
think about how we can do things differently going forward, because like that's not
the answer either. It's like we want to help people, but you know,
the amount of stuff that we get bombarded with that's just trying to trigger
us to get us to buy something is not okay. Yeah, it is
mind control and its finest and you know, I know you know this.
You don't have to be sleezy, You don't have to try to sell anything
to anyone. The right people always show up. Yeah. Yeah, like
I said to you before, the darkness imposes itself on people, The darkness
kind of pushes itself on you all the time twenty four to seven. But
the light's just waiting for you to ask for help, and anyone that wants
to come to you for help for any of your services. It's not because
you know, it's not because they're having the time of their life. They're
at they're at rock bottom. They're like, please take my money, you
know, like I'll do anything you say. Right, So you got to
keep that in mind as as a marketer and realize that you really don't have
to market yourself so hard. You don't have to push yourself on anybody,
because it's kind of like intellectual rape. Actually, yeah, in a lot
of ways, it's like we need to start asking those questions even in you
know, meeting rooms, you know, in corporate America, like is this
actually you know, in integrity, you know, if we're if we're wanting
to be good humans, you know, to each other and and not just
you know, make money, you know, the expense of people. If
they want the strawberries, they'll buy the strawberries, Karen, exactly, give
them good strawberries. That was That was our Whole Foods I should say,
you know, Whole Foods of all companies. There's a reason I stayed there
a long time. You know, Whole Foods for the most part, you
know, really is a conscious business. You know, it's it is possible
to do business in a more conscious way out there. So right, okay,
back to the music. Right, So music is actually, in itself,
is actually influencing us at a cellular level all the time. And so
what that means is that anytime we're actually exposed to music, it's affecting us.
It's speeding up or slowing down the heart rate, it's relaxing the nervous
system or agitating it. It's affecting your blood pleasure pressure, it's affecting your
digestion, it's affecting how you breathe. So everybody knows that music affects the
way that you think about yourself, and music is one of the main driving
forces behind influencing culture, besides the TV. So what happens is that,
well I should say not what happened, but what has happened to us.
It is that we have become extremely complacent and complicit to our own slavery through
music. And what we don't realize is that we had the ancient civilizations that
were very careful about what they did with music, and they knew that sound
was used to degrade the mind or to enhance spiritual development. So you had
people like Pythagoras, who basically said that music is just a derivative of numbers
and mathematics, and he said that the way he saw things was that the
whole universe was kind of linked to the same numbers and mathematical ratios that were
found in the musical skills and stuff like that, and he just kind of
knew that music influenced your thoughts, it could create certain emotions, and it
could control your bodily health. Right, So Geraldine showed me this last night
actually with Kanye talking about the eight O eight saying how his exact words,
where it f's up your frequencies, it screws up your chakras. And he's
right right, because that's we have that human hearing spectrum, which is twenty
hurts to twenty thousand killer herts. And usually when you're mixing music, you
want to cut those things out because the heartbeat is around fifty five sixty hertz,
and that's what the kick drum is at, and it's called the heartbeat
of the music for a reason. Anything below that is the sub frequency,
so that's where the eto eights are at. So they try to minimize the
amount of subfrequencies because it would blow out your speakers and make everything sound terrible
in the first place. But it's also just really not good for the hearing
spectrum and it's not good for your energetic body, right, So they try
to control those frequencies and tame them. They may have to add some back
in and stuff like that in the final process of a record, but it's
done tastefully in a particular way that it's not overwhelming. But with the ato
weights and stuff like that, it's just all on all the time, like
boo all the time, and it's a representation of the message of the music.
It's lower frequency beings that are coming in and what direction should I go
with this? Okay, So when the subconscious mind, when we're analyzing our
programming and we're out there in the field, let's say, in meditation or
something, we have access to these fragmented aspects of ourselves, and these entities
and these beings and stuff like that represent fragmented aspects of ourselves. So it's
not necessarily that it's all separate energy from us. We have that in the
field and we have to be able to take that out. So this music
kind of calls that energy into your life. It degrades your energetic body.
That makes it more susceptible for you to act out the darkest aspects of yourself
and to become that darkness, you know, invite these entities towards you rather
and cast them out of you. Right, So which music is this like
so that you're saying that ATO eights like, and what does that apply to?
So the ATO eights would be anything that's very low frequency, below like
a hundred hertz or anything like that. You're you're dealing with lower frequencies along
that spectrum because that's like one hundred hertz and below is where the base is
mainly at, right, So it's it's just so low that it's it's very
agitating on a cellular level. Imagine the hut the way you know this,
you don't even have to imagine. The higher frequency is very light, right,
right, So like the top the treble stuff is much lighter in frequency
the lower frequency. Right. So that's the easiest way to explain it.
And so what the ancient civilizations understood was that music was kind of like an
energetic formula that they used. It was free energy, right right. It
was like a zero point machine to them. Actually, and what they were
saying is that they knew that music had the power to violate free will?
Right? Is that's interesting, right, because only darkness does that? Yeah,
only darkness. Hold on a second, So yeah, so are there
people like purposefully putting out music to try to steer people away from free will?
Okay? What kind of like like like if we were just like,
you know, flipping through our iPhone and you know what's on the list,
you know what sort of songs might I'm on? That would tip us off
that that's a song we shouldn't listen to. Well take the eight away,
so out of the equation. The entire music industry was made just for that
purpose to direct culture unfortunately. So yeah, so yeah, so the best
music to listen to would be stringed instruments like shamanic drumming and you're gonna love
that classical music things like that, because they've found when they hook people up
to brain scans that those are the things that are less threatening to the energetic
body and they actually put you in a better frequency that you can tap into
your spiritual self right right. And one thing I have to say about that
is everybody needs to read a book called the Tavistock Institute of Mind Control and
Tabs. Stock is basically a think tank where they come up with all the
ideas that take culture, music, what's gonna what are the beliefs that are
going to be in society, how we dress, how we talk, all
those things. So when you talk about ideas that, well, ghost writing
and music is a big deal. There's a whole industry underlying that where six
or seven other people write the song and you think it's the artist that really
right, but it really wasn't. You know, it wasn't It wasn't Beyonce
that wrote that song. It was seven people you don't even know exists,
right, right, And it's coming from coming down the pipeline saying you got
to write about this. This is what we want them to believe, This
is how we want them to talk, This is how we want them to
act, this is you know, all kinds of things. I'm not going
to go so far into it. So wow, okay, So that's so
this is a book we have to read I'm Not Yeah, by John Coleman,
Doctor John Coleman, tat Stock Institute. Yeah. Okay, Well,
even when you listen to the lyrics in a lot of music. You know,
I haven't gone that deep in my research, so I wasn't aware of
that, Oh my goodness. But even just starting to kind of question,
like we were talking about earlier, just questioning like what am I hearing?
Why am I hearing that? You know, so many of the lyrics are
violent, you know, either like kind of a victim mentality, or it's
about loss, or you know, it's just playing off of all of the
more negative aspects of the human drama. Yeah, the same themes in music
are the same themes in television, just packaged differently. Yeah. And that's
the major point here, is that the ancient civilizations, whether it's ancient China
or Egypt or whoever, they knew that music should never be used for entertainment
because they knew that it doesn't take much to stimulate the dark side of a
human being, right, And that's why they focused on the harmonic ratios.
And that's why we see now, you know, a resurgence I guess of
some of that sort of music or sound healing, even like using sound to
expose people to those frequencies. Exactly, That's exactly it, you get it.
Because they knew that using the music as entertainment wouldn't lead to immorality and
incorrect behavior. They knew that people would begin to change the best aspects of
what it is to be a human just by listening to music. And when
you listen to older music from like the nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties, nineteen
forties, you say, oh, that's not that harmless. But then you
realize around that time that's when the music industry came into play and they really
started trying to ramp things up. And it's kind of like how extraterrestrials give
humans little bits of information, and so we reverse engineered that and we create
all these different things and we kind of act like we did it. We
didn't really do it. You know. It's kind of like the same thing
with music, where darker levels of consciousness, darker entities and stuff come through.
And I don't want to look at this through the religious route and say
demonic or satanic or use those words. I just prefer to say entity related
things. Darker frequencies come through, and something that was used for good was
perverted and now it's used for perception management and to make people ill, Like
is it Let me see it's a guy called doctor Adam Canisete. I always
kind of want to call him Knuckles or something. I don't know why,
but he he did. He's actually a musicologist and that's what he is.
And he studied the side effects of music on people, different types of music,
I shou and he said that music is a really powerful drug. Music
can poison you, or it can lift your spirits, and it can make
you sick without knowing why, right, and so it's pretty scary. It's
pretty scary because we had It's Lenin who was the founder of communism. He
said that one quick way to destroy a society was through its music. And
you can actually see there's a quote. There's a book called the Marxist Minstrels.
I posted it to my Instagram. It's a handbook on Communist subversion of
music that tells you exactly how these people think. And we're actually very much
living in a society that is run by that type of thinking to stop you
from being your true spiritual self, right, yeah, And there's this level
of that has messed with our blueprints, you know. I like to I
like to talk about the fact that you know, really we do have a
divine blueprint, you know, some sort of perfect, you know, energetic
blueprint that we can connect with that is supposed to be there in place.
But as we're exposed to this world and all of the levels of programming that
happen, that blueprint starts to get distorted. And and like when you're talking
about the musical you know, frequencies and vibrations, it's like I'm just seeing
that, you know, like just ripping apart the blueprint. And what we're
here to do, I think, you know, as a spiritual community,
as star seeds, as people who are awakening, is restore the blueprint.
Like we're here to put the blueprint back together and align with the highest level
of that blue print that we can align with, like bring that down to
the physical. And it's like that requires us not listening to all of the
stuff anymore. Yeah, And people ask me all the time, well what
can I do? It's like, go out and buy a guitar. They're
only ninety nine bucks these days. You can find somebody selling one on eBay
for less than that. Yeah. Yeah, by a singing bowl. Go
buy a piano. They're all cheap these days. Yeah. And there's one
of the thing, yoga music, you know, enchanting music you can find
you know, on the apps these days, Like there is a lot of
option out there, it's just not what we got taught about exactly. And
I actually know a company right now that they're working on high vibration music and
it's it's based on the scale of the Hawkins scale level of consciousness, Focused
Life Force Energy. I'm not getting paid to say this or anything. FLF
dot net. You can go try it out. They have a UH service.
You can put it on your phone for fifteen days free and it'll it'll
mitigate all the harsh EMF frequencies and it will blast you with frequencies over a
five hundred level of consciousness, which on the scale is love amazing. You
can I use it on my house. That's amazing. I love that.
Like every human needs that exactly so. And so there's plenty of sources out
there that doing that, are doing similar things that they're working on these technologies,
and it's important because there's research that shows that enough volume so you go
to a concert or something that can actually congeal the proteins in an egg.
Oh goodness, groncious. I did not know that wow. And there have
been heavy metal musicians and stuff that have died from standing too close to their
speakers on stage and stuff during Oh my God, it just made their heart
skip a beat because the bass frequency. Remember I told you sixty hertz in
the heart. So something low like that's coming in it goes boom boom in
the stin of your chest. Wow, you know, mess you up.
So And there's tons of research as well that tells you that plants will grow
in the presence of classical music. Yeah, well they'll die if you play
like a Miley Cyrus song or something. You know. So it's not just
heavy metal music. It's pretty much anything that isn't classical music. You know,
it's very dangerous. Yeah, there was a there was that Japanese scientist.
I'm going to forget his name again, but thank you. He did
that study on water and he shows photographs of the water molecules when they're exposed
to heavy metal music, and just the like level of destruction that has happened
with those water molecules. It should be enough to get us to not want
to listen to any of that music for sure. Absolutely. And we have
Spotify and all these things that we can get tons of classical music, ancient
civilizations and things like that. We can find their music. There's people who
have found these things in there reproducing these pieces of music. And the way
that they did stuff was they were very intentional about the way that they played
the notes. It had to resonate in a particular way. Their musicians weren't
allowed to touch the instrument. They weren't allowed to be a part of the
orchestra unless they've mastered their spiritual self. Yeah, oh I love that.
I love that. Yeah, I love that. Person. There's a book
I was reading recently called The Dimensions of Paradise which speaks, you know,
to this. Partially, it's about really understanding the sacred geometry and the mathematical
you know, like harmony that needs to be present in a civilization and you
know, any space to allow for that just natural paradise to unfold, to
allow write that down. What was that Dimensions of the Dimensions of Paradise.
It doesn't get specifically into the music side of things as much, but it
speaks to the sacred geometry and harmonic ratios that need to be in place,
and even like how a city could be planned, you know, or how
the ancients you know, planned their townships and cities and you know, all
of that to create harmony. So so we yeah, we could. We
know now there's there's harmony and there's you know, disharmony, like we can
we can, yeah, we can start to like, uh, you know,
put some rigor behind you know, how we're structuring our environment, the
music, we're listening to, what we're watching, all of these things to
allow the body, the mind, the soul to come back into its harmonic
state, you know, a truly balanced, uplifted state. Yeah. Yeah,
that's that's it. We got to guard our consciousness because what we put
in is what we get out. It's hard for people to hear, but
you know, I wouldn't tell anybody to do anything that I'm not doing in
my own life, and it helped me tremendously. Yeah. I haven't watched
a TV set in over seven years, and wow, Wow, I couldn't
care less. Wow, good for you. You're doing better than I am.
I still watch a little bit here, and they're not TV TV like
you know, Conscious Awakening Network stuff that sort of thing. But yeah,
it's it's it's like there has to be new protocol in place, and and
and for any Star Seeds who are listening to this, who have found this
like this is your mission to protect your consciousness, to to evolve it,
you know from where it's been from, you know where we got programmed in
this life. And Jehan is an absolute excellent resource for you. And that
as we're as we're doing this work to get back to who we true we
are. And I like to I like to call that place the new human.
You know, we're it's really the ancient human, but we're we're bringing
that back and we're we're doing the work to transform to become that new human.
And that's why we're on the planet right now. It feels hard,
it is big, it's a lot to take on, but it's what we're
here to do. And you know, I want to talk all about your
you know, other exploration, which is you know, past life memories you've
had in your connection with Star family. You know, I even want to
go back and talk about those beings that showed up, you know, when
you were in the darkness, and and I think we're going to have to
save that for the next episode because we have we still have so much to
talk about but I think there's there's probably going to be some really amazing nuggets
and words of wisdom in that conversation as it relates to our star family and
how we're being guided and who we really are. So Jahan, we'll have
to do another conversation really soon. Fine by me. I like hanging out
with you, Okay? Cool? How can people find you and work with
you? So if you want to talk to me directly, you can send
me an email at self sabotage info at proton dot me, and you can
follow me on Instagram at Jahansatur that's j E h A N s A T
t A. You are awesome and we've got your links in the show notes
below so everyone can grab those as well. And thank you everyone for tuning
in and engaging in this conversation. This is like deep stuff, you know,
This is important stuff to unpack and and and integrate into our lives and
into how we're operating. So I just so appreciate you for for being here,
and Ja for sharing yourself and your wisdom and your journey with the audience.
Thank you, Thank you, Jennen, and everyone tune in again soon
for part two, where we'll talk about our star family connections and some of
Jahan's other exploration and experiences that have happened, and we'll talk about how we
really get to know our true selves and that's a fun process when we start
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