Hello, Christina Here, before this episode starts, I do want to give
a trigger warning. We are discussing the case of Serio Andreve and Gloria Trevi.
If you're familiar with the case and you know that it involves things that
need trigger warnings. Teenagers were abused physically and sexually, so we're going to
talk about what happened in the case. So just start trigger warning for child
abuse rape. If you can listen to that, feel free to skip this
episode and we will catch you on the episode after after this, because after
this we're going to talk about Part two and it's going to be more of
the same stuff. Hi. Everyone, this is Christina and this is another
episode of As Spooky Tales, the podcast for all Things as Spooky and no
MJ or Carbon Ladies. Here, Lenny Hubbs back in the building. Yes,
she is now the official co host, not guest co hosts mm hmmm.
Oh wait my bad, No, oh my god. I could never
official guest co host. When I trying to start a war, yeah,
I'm Jay's been having computer problems and doesn't have anything to record out of And
then when I ask Carmen, I learned that she lost her voice because she
went to the Vesa Me Mucho concert that happened in La over the weekend,
and yeah, she doesn't have a voice. She sounds like don't dunk.
And I was like, I can't even hear you talk right now because I'm
like, this is so unserious. You sound terrible and I can't even listen
to you anything you're saying right now. Oh my god, a ghost to
her voice or I cursed her. We'll never know. We'll never know because
she's here for her spot. So yeah, Laney, I asked you like
last minute, and thankfully she was like, yeah, I have time.
Oh I always have time. I'm clocked in for my shift, baby,
thank you, thank you today. We I don't know why. Oh,
I guess I had been wanting to talk about this topic forever. But there's
so much to it, and it was almost daunting to like even start researching
it. Yeah, researching it. But it's the Gloria Trevi Serio Andred like
cold. I guess it was a cool Yeah, I mean truly I would.
It's you know, it reminds me of the Twin Flames thing, right,
have you seen that documentary or anything? Yes? I have. It
makes me think of R Kelly. M hm. Oh, that's an even
better example. Yeah, that's almost almost very similar. It's you know,
yeah, the Mexican R Kelly shout out, not a good not a good
book for us, shut up, not good for my people in particular.
Right, yeah, yeah, I remember watching like as a kid, just
parts of like Ventanando. Did you ever watch that show? No? Okay,
well, it's like a Mexican gossip show. It was on every day,
like I don't know, two, three in the afternoon something like that,
and they just shared all the gossip, all the tea. Patti Cha
Boy was one of the four hosts, and I don't remember the other three
name the other three, just her because she was like the most iconic to
me. But I feel like they were a huge and just sharing all the
things they were hearing about. And Gloria on the trial. M h That's
most of what I remember about it. And then at some point she was
also on the show Christina di Jiroach defending and all like two thousand, late
nineties before they were arrested in like Brazil. But we we'll get into all
that. But how do you feel about Gloria Trevi? You know, I
really didn't have a lot of exposure to her in terms of like my awareness
of her when I was little and stuff, because we I mean like Selena
was it for me most of the time, and I was listening to Sahano
music more than anything else when I was younger, like do Hana was it
for us in my house and everything, Like I was listening to Bronco and
all that stuff. So I didn't really have a ton of exposure until I
was slated to do this episode. Like I had heard of her obviously,
and same for Sergio. I'd heard about both of them, And then when
I was slated to do this episode for Crimes of Passion, I was all
like, what, Like this is crazy. Yeah, And I got a
lot of feedback, like from my mom and like different family members who had
heard it and stuff, and they're like, oh yeah, you know,
like with Crimes of Passion, you don't really go a super in depth with
anything. I'd liken it to like a Lifetime Movie Network movie. It's like
the audio version of a Lifetime Movie Network. So it really focuses on like
the drama, the psychological aspect of things, and then just the the interpersonal
stuff that's going on between these two people mostly, but and it really didn't
talk about truly the effects that linger after going through something like this. And
so I would love, honestly to see like a long form documentary on this,
because this is something that's really I think pro within the music industry.
It's not isolated too obviously, you know, the Spanish side or anything like
that, I think in Western music and maybe even beyond that, it for
sure is super prevalent. Yeah, yeah, I I didn't know any of
this, like obviously until it all started coming to light in the Spanish news
and we were watching it as it was coming out. But I didn't understand
it because I was a kid. But I'd been listening to her music for
a long time. Like there's a song, what's it called something about having
your hair down? Is like the name of the not that's not the name
of the song because that's way too long. It's called Pelosto. It may
be just called Pelosto. But that was like one of our favorite songs because
we had like, you know, big curly hair and we were just singing
and dance to it and like rock our hair back and forth. And uh,
before it was cool, Yeah, before Willow Smith did it and all
my dieas like everyone like loved her music and yeah, everyone left her music.
She was like this, I mean like Madonna, she was yeah for
Mexico. Yeah, And I mean even now I listened to her songs and
I'm like, man, that's so crazy that this happened, like I don't
know it is. And she was super young too, So there's a lot
of like, I think, a lot of levels. Yeah. I think
everybody, in their own way, minus Sergio, is a victim in this.
Even Gloria, I would say, for sure, but she still has
some accountability, I think, or she needs to have some accountability. Yeah.
But before we get into the episode topic, I guess a spooky story
A listener story. Yes, Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. I
thought I would come to the table with a spooky story from one of my
listeners. Her name is Amelia. She submitted a story back in September over
this and so it was one of those stories. I think when you get
those, they stick with you for a little bit. Ooh. I don't
know about you, but for me, I love when people send in their
story. Is like actually to like our email or through the social media channels
because it shows like they're invested in your show. They are excited about wanting
to hear it when I listened to and that's why we drink or two Girls,
One Ghost and stuff like way back in the day, I sent in
my stories and I was like amped. I was like, oh my god,
I hope they read it so like there's an excitement too, and yeah,
yeah, I always want to like give people that same feeling that I
had when I was reading my story. So I literally like, if you
send it in, I will read it. It may not be like the
next episode, but it will definitely be in the episode at some point it'll
make it in. Yeah. So this is the story from Amelia, and
she said, ever since I was little, I've had a strong connection with
the paranormal. I have photographic memories, so it makes it easy to remember
these things when I wish I could forget. I vaguely remember when I was
two. Two. Oh, I know, I have no memories of two.
I saw different entities or spirits, whatever you want to call them.
The first was a little girl, I called her little. She would stand
at the top of the stairs and scream, and she would stand in corners
and scream, oh my god, and I'd be like, no, thank
you. Can you imagine how scare you would be? Too? Like my
kid is too right now, and I'm like, I would hate if she
was seeing something like that. I have a two and a half year old
now and I can't even put him pointing like little and I'm like, what
are you putting out? What the fuck? I would little? Who?
Who? My daughter did that recently, not saying little, but she she
has like night terrors and stuff, and she always like wakes up when she's
asleep and talks. And she sleeps just like my husband, like he sleep
talks everything, so she's just like him. But she got up one day
she was like dead asleep, and she's I have her bed in my room
because I'm just one of those moms. I'm like, you can sometimes sleep
with me, or you can sleep in real bed. Yeah, But she
like straight up woke up bed of a dead sleep, not really awake.
Her eyes were still closed, but she like sits up in bed and she
goes, what's that and goes lin Lea's back down. I was like,
well, that was probably a ghost. I mean, what do you want
me to say? What do you want me to say? So I was
terrified. I was like, oh my god. Oh. I was like,
there better not be anything here. And I was just like, leave
my baby alone if there is something here, because I'm trying to sleep.
Yeah, oh my god, it's crazy. Okay, so she goes.
There was also the gray Man. He had a bluish grayish green. He
had a bluish grayish greenish green, Oh my god, skin tone right though
it was mostly gray. He has serious balding with his white hair, and
he had fingernails maybe seven or eight inches long, that curled inward. He
would poke my palms and my feet when I was asleep, but when I
would wake up, I would only see him for a split second. When
I was four, I started to remember things very clearly, so I still
remember this like it was yesterday. I was watching Me and My Arrow,
a movie from the seventies, even though this was the early two thousands.
There was a scene in the movie about a pile of rocks called the rock
Man. Since he was so tall, he could point you in any direction
of where you needed to go. And went to bed after the mo and
woke up the next morning looking to my right out of my window. I
lived right next to Beaumont, Texas at the time, in some really bad
apartments. I guess you could say I'm from the ghetto, not sponsored.
Same this is not sponsored by the ghetto. Oh okay, I thought,
I always say I joke about that because I'm like, you know, I
was like, some people were like, this isn't sponsored. I'm like,
not sponsored. The ghetto is not sponsoring this. These apartments were so poor
that at some points random people would walk into the apartments. But when I
woke up that morning, I heard the voice of the rock band saying the
first line he said in the movie, I Am the rock Man. I
sat still. I am the rock Man. I heard once more in the
same tone, and I asked hello in a louder, angrier voice. I
heard, I am the rock Man. I calmly jumped off my bed and
went to my accordion door closet. There was no one. I walked out
of my room to my mom and told her what I had heard. She
said, you were probably still have a sleep in imagining things. So I
thought so, but I was still creeped out. At around noon, I
walked back into my room and heard it in its original calm tone. I
am the rock Man, I told my mom again, and she just ignored
me. I only went back into my room that night to sleep, and
I didn't hear it since. But ever since that night, I've always got
the gut wrenching feeling that something's watching me. To this day, I try
to calm myself thinking it was another creepy old man in the apartment. But
how is his voice the same as the rock Man? Why couldn't I see
him when I looked in my closet the end? Who me? No?
Did you ever watch like Unsolved Mysteries and stuff? Yes? Okay, So
there was this really prominent ghost story that happened in terms of like, you
know, a child having a ghost experience and stuff like that, and seeing
a person who had died in that house, I think. And then and
they did some research found out he's a real guy, mister Gordy. Did
you listen to that one? Okay? Right? And then that family was
like all over all of the other like paranormal channels doing like my kids haunted
kind of things, and they were always talking about it. So that story
always like stuck with me, and I was all like, oh, my
god. I hope my kid never has a mind like a mister Gordy who's
like pushing her on a swing or something. I was like, we ain't
having a swing set at this house. You guys know that here? No,
no, So it kind of reminds me of that, Like it gives
me like, I feel really bad for Amelia because you know, I think
having paranormal experiences when you're that young and you can't really understand absorb the gravity
and understand what the issue is or why it's happening, I think that makes
it really confusing, and it also makes you question as you become an adult
your experience, right, it makes you think like, oh did I make
it up? And I wish like her mom would have validated her a little
bit, you know, but different different times. I mean it was early
two so at that time, you know, everybody was just like go to
sleep. Yeah. Well, I mean even today, if my kid comes
and tells me that, sure, I would love to val to him,
but I wouldn't be scared shitless myself. So I throw up and be like,
I don't know, I don't feel like I guess we're burning it down?
Does that work? De fire? Help. I deny it too.
You sound nothing actually right, you were just sleeping. Oh my gosh,
what about dream? But no, I could see. That makes it worse
and we're confusing because then later you're like, did I really see something or
was it just my imagination? But that's so weird that it was the same
voice as the movie she had just been seen. Yeah, it most makes
you think it's like a mimic, and it was just like because they're horrible.
Look. Yeah. No, So that was my contribution to the show.
I will see you guys later. Oh, thank you so much for
I'll just tell you're like, so what do you think about Glrie trev Yeah,
let's let's get into the top. So Gloria Trevi, like I said
earlier, she was like the Mexican Madonna. Still she's still making music.
She was at that best I'm much concert. Oh shut up, yeah,
yeah, I'm pretty sure Carmen says she saw her. Wow, it's so
I don't know because you listen to it and you're like, people are like,
oh, you have to separate the artists from the music. Well they
say that about MJ too, Yeah, but you also have to think she
was also abused too, but then, like you said, she also has
some accountability to go through herself. H But she does make good music,
she does, And that's what I'm saying, Like it is really hard to
distinguish from you know, like I think, like I hate using the MJ
thing, but this is kind of the same in the same instance that like
MJ was never he was prosecuted but never convicted of anything. Same for Gloria,
Like they go through a whole trial and she's not convicted, even though
they had like lawsuits recently, I think, and there's a recent one from
this summer. I want to say, yeah, yeah, So it's like,
you know, it's still I think if MJ was alive today, he
would still likely be going through the same process of like every few years,
you know, a new allegation or new claim or somebody trying to get something
out of him. But you can't deny the impact their talent has had on
the music industry and the culture, right, Like, yeah, it sucks
that he had this kind of terrible history, saying for Gloria, like it
sucks that they had this history, but they did impact the culture, and
I think you can, yeah, appreciate the impact without praising the individual beautifully
said that is very true. But her music it's always been very political.
It was filled with sexual innuendos, which was like culturally shocking at the time
because nobody was really doing that, which is I think why she's like compared
to Madonna, who was doing the same kind of like feminist type of music.
She talked about religion, human trafficking, war, drugs. She would
invite men onto stage and then like take their clothes off, have them on
stage and just their underwear. All the older Mexican moms are like, oh,
she's a she's a slut. Yeah, she's a Slut's this is a
bad influence, while like everyone like I don't know, probably thirty and younger
at the time, were just they loved her, all about her. Yeah,
she empowered them, you know, she gave them an opportunity to to
really own their sexuality, which women are shamed for quite you know generously in
our Hispanic culture, is what I would say, especially it doesn't discriminate across
you know, the border, if you will, but we deal with a
lot more misogyny in our culture than I think, you know, across the
you know, in the Western side or whatever. There's still a misogyny,
but it's not as I think intense as it can be within our own culture,
where you're like, you're expected to do things just because you're a girl,
and it's totally fine if you're not allowed to do something like just in
general, if you have an older siblings, like, yeah, of course
the boys can date and go and do whatever. You can't because you'll get
pregnant and ruin your entire life and ruin our family's reputation. Yes, And
it was just so wild to think that she was speaking on all these things
and then behind doors she was a victim of the patriarchy herself and abuse from
a man. It's it's wild, like it's difficult to comprehend even but she
was at the top of her I don't know career when in nineteen ninety six
or seven. I want to say it was ninety seven, but when she
was arrested when she quit turing and they it was under the guise of helping
her, producer said Hendrade recover from cancer and they went to Spain, so
she went basically into hiding and that's what they told the media at the time,
but just to talk a little bit about Glare. She was born Gloria
de Los Angeles Trevino Ruiz on February fifteenth, nineteen sixty eight. She was
the oldest of five siblings and she wanted to be a star. Her parents
were divorced and in nineteen eighty she left her home to go alone to Mexico
City, and she paints a picture of like she was alone, disowned by
her family for disobeying and leaving, and she had like nothing, But there's
there's accounts that her mom and her dad were paying for her apartment in see
that, Mexico, and they did go visit her, but they did let
her like they let her go by herself. But she wasn't completely abaddond like
she makes it seem that she was like yeah, hustling and begging for money
or doing all these crazy things alone, like she she had support. There
are definite holes in her story for sure, in continuity. Yeah m hm,
but you know what, she had a picture to paint, you know.
So there was a contest held by Televisa to find and Luceito's look alike.
I remember and Luceito Lucero, she's another artist. She was like this
teen star, but sat and was her producer, and he was obsessed.
He was obsessed. He was disgusting. But now we know why. Now
we know why. Back then nobody knew why. And so I almost want
to say he was actually the one who put this contest together to find like
a Lucerito lookalike, but that could be wrong because he was working at the
Levisa putting together shows like for artists to come and sing yes. So the
way that happened was she was in like a talent school at the time in
Mexico City, and she knew that her she was, you know, she
was looking for jobs to hopefully like break into the entertainment industry. She was
really talented and stuff. And her mom like not for nothing. I mean,
well, you know, her mom had a background as a dancer and
stuff, and so she really kind of pushed Gloria. I think this kind
of this victimization starts started at home in terms of with her mom and stuff.
Yeah, and then led her into this, you know, relationship with
Sergio. But like her mom was a former dancer and all this stuff.
And it's that classic story of parents who didn't make it wanting to live through
their children and pushing them to make it. Oh, vicariously lived through their
children. It's like that baseball dad who's like, you got to practice every
day because I never made the major legs, you know, and it's like
bro or like what's the show called dance Moms, Yeah, just like that.
It's she was like original dance mom basically, and so like everybody had
a puberty phase right in their life and maybe didn't look so great or had
like the baby fat as they say, you know, whenever you're like in
your teen years and stuff like that, or growing into your teen years.
Like that's what Gloria was. Her mom was like fit and thin, spelt
all this stuff, and Gloria wasn't. She was a little bit overweight and
all this stuff, and her mom like instilled really unhealthy habits in her to
like essentially like starve herself and work out to get skinny, which is what
led her through, you know, finding the look alike because she was beautiful,
right. But anyway, so she ends up going into this town school
because she's basically been trained by her mother and looks the part of what somebody
would want in the industry at that time, right before we were into the
whole body positivity and things like that. So she goes through this talent school,
she's not finding any prospects, Like she's a great and talented songwriter,
good singer, you know, she can't she hasn't really like found her niche
if you will. So she ends up meeting a friend that she knew and
he's like, hey, I actually had just signed this like record deal with
a friend through a friend, and that's how she meets Sergio. He's like,
I can introduce you to them if you want to. But it was
this before or after the look like show. She won the contest for the
Lusaito lookalike and it came with the contract and then that ended and then she
had like no work. The Lusito thing was before she met Sergio because she
had no prospects at the Lusaito thing. This when she met this guy you're
talking about, because that guy's also a singer, Ricky Yeah, Ricky Luis,
Ricky Luis. He tried to make it as a singer but it didn't
go well very well. But he also was like a producer at the lusam
h he was the one who yeah, who who was like this guy just
produced my city, which is what Sejandreda and he took her to meet him,
and at that time, Saijndrede was forming a girl groups. Yes,
when I had to record that, I was like, oh my god,
this is the lamest name I've ever heard. Actually, the name apparently comes
from Sere was found the name through a Argentine in Argentine. How do you
say Argentinian? Argentine Argentine Tinian Argentinian guy artists who wrote a song about a
man and his three lovers and in the in that song they say yeah,
And that was his inspiration for a teenage group. Weird name discussing yeah,
And she's like to paint the picture of this age gap that exists. He's
fifteen years older than her, yes, Like he's thirty years old when he
meets her, essentially or like in his thirties and she's like fifteen. Yes.
Ricky Louise takes her over to audition for this girl group. There's a
bunch of people there. She arrives at four pm. It does an audition
until two am. Insane and apparently this audition didn't last very long. It
was like very short compared to other ones. So they never really talks about
what went on in that room. According to Ricky Louise, when Gloryda Therapy
came out of the room, she was like all of a sudden stand offish
with him, didn't like talk to him anymore, and then they were like
never friends again, even though they were friends before. So he thinks he
was already like, you can't talk to anyone if you're going to be a
part of this, you can't talk to any guys, because that was one
of his rules. He has so many rules for anyone, any teenage girl
he worked with. Yeah, because they are the only people that listen to
him like this because he knows how to manipulate them, and they're young and
they want to be famous. Yep. So when she came out, she
no longer talked to him, and I did find also, so she was
the last person, the last girl to join the group. He already had
the other three members at that time. One of them was Maria Bokita's and
she has a podcast called Enbrocasa. Initially it was only ten episodes about all
this whole case. So through her podcast, I found that she was already
like being abuse at this at this time, but nobody knew and so she
writes, or she says in her podcast that she was in one of the
back rooms during the audition again it was like two and she heard like a
voice like no other. She was like, oh, I heard ada because
she has like a Gloria has like a very raspy kind of voice. Right,
yeah, So she was like, and it was a voice like no
other. It was so she it was a real audition, like by all
into some purposes, even though some people trying to make it seem like it
wasn't even an audition, Like he just was like you got a good body,
great, yeah, exactly, which how some of the auditions did go
yes, yeah yeah. But also one thing I wonder is still if he
was the one who put together that Lusarito looked like showed that would be so
creepy because he was obsessed with her. And then I'm sure he did because
Gloria Trevi won that contest, and like this man never stopped being obsessed with
Luca Tito, Like we'll see it again and again that he brings her up
throughout this whole thing. Yeah, it's it's like a point of pride for
him because his whole thing, like I mean if you want to look up
the word like egotistical in the dictionary, you'll see him narcissist. You'll see
him like he thought he was just like the best in the world, you
know, and I mean talented, I'm sure because he did create, you
know, good artists. The way he went about creating the artists not so
great, right, exactly, tortured these kids to get the product essentially that
he wanted and was successful at getting the product, but at the cost of
her mental health and well being, you know. Yeah. And then just
because we're kind of at a point where we're gonna begin focusing a little bit
on Sere, I'm gonna talk a little bit of it about his background,
not a lot, because like he sucks, but he was born in guasalcos
Vera, Cruz, Mexico, on November twenty sixth, nineteen fifty five.
I think the only thing really we need to know is that he has an
older brother that his family loved more than him, and that older brother was
involved in Mexican politics. He was like a senator can relate, right,
I can relate. I feel like every child of Mexican, every girl that
has a brother of oldest son yeah, oldest son, yeah, there you
go, or even youngest son. Oh for real, yeah, just study
in general in general, yeah yeah, yes, So he studied music from
a young age. His first like professionally recorded music happened in nineteen seventy seven,
and then he started getting like really good producing jobs. He produced for
artists like Veronica Gastro, huge, huge artists. In nineteen seventy nine,
he became the youngest musical director of CBS Mexico, where he also produced for
artists like Judith Chaves or Gabby was her artist's name. I don't know who
that is. I'm not that Mexican, I guess, but I think she
was also another teen star before Luceto. Three years after that, he left
CBS Mexico and began producing independently for Televisa, and here he produced programs like
aleriaz Melo, Melovia Me No Sorry a melodia and this was like a program
where artists came in formed, which includes Luceito. This is the first time
he actually like was dear her in person, and he was like obsessed with
her, and he was like, I have to produce for her, and
he did. He produced songs like her famous Osito Panda or elso again like
Little Teddy Bear songs. She was thirteen, Yeah, and yeah, he
became obsessed with her. To this day, Lucetto herself, she's very private
about whatever happened with said she just not talked about it. When she's asked
about it, she will say things like, I don't remember those times.
It was a long time ago. I don't blame her Gio who Yeah,
I don't know him. Yeah, we don't know her. Yeah, that's
basically what she does, and I do not fault her. No, protect
your peace. Yeah. There were a bunch of rumors about what actually happened,
but from what I gather, Lusetto's mom started noticing that her daughter was
changing, and that said ko Andrade was putting more like excuses on why he
needed more and more time with her, and that's when she was like,
no, this is getting weird, and she like took her daughter and they
left and cut contact with him. There's other rumors that Lusa Rito's mom walked
in on them and like the media released this as having sex. But again,
she's thirteen, so really he was raping her. Yeah, because she's
thirteen, she can't consent. Right, and so that's how the media like
released the story and that after she saw that, she took her daughter and
they left and cut all ties with him. There's another rumor that they started
noticing her acting different and this is what Lusa Rito said, Oh but I
love him, and they were like, what the fuck, You're thirteen,
you don't love anyone like and and she had a brother that's a police officer,
and then he went and like warned, said Hendread to stay away from
her and threatened him, and then they took her and they cut all ties
with said Hendrade. There's another story that Lusato told her mom her and said
he we're going to run away together. He was going to steal her,
like they said back in the day where they were like, oh, like,
I'm gonna take your daughter, and that's when they cut all ties.
Point is that something happened. They cut all ties with him. They protected
her, they kept them away, which is what not a lot of parents
did at the time. But I think another thing we had to realize is
that Luceto was already famous. She already before working with him. Yeah,
they weren't trying to make their little girls dreams come true. They were already
coming true. She was already famous, because I think a lot of what
happens later with other parents you'll see is like he'll use that excuse of like
I'm the only person that's gonna make her famous. You have to do this
or she'll never her dreams will never come true. And parents wanting to make
this happen for their children, and that paycheck is also really nice. That's
you know, like not everything was altruistic with these parents either. It was
like, you know, he's working them to the bone, literally torturing them,
and the payout is nice, you know. I mean, child stars
across Hollywood would be ike. It takes a very exploitative ye on all sides,
on all sides. But after Lucid too cut out ties with him in
nineteen eighty five, we're after that. In nineteen eighty five, he started
to decide he was going to form the girl group called Balas. Welcome to
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comes from a discussing idea. Some of the members were already people that he
girls, that he had already been working with, and this brings us to
Maria raquelent Portillo, also known as Maria Bokitas and then the other members were
Claudia Rossas, Pilar Ramirez, Monica Moor, and then Grodia Trevi was the
last member of Bokita's Pintalas. This group lasted a year, but after the
group fell apart, Gloria Trevi and Maria Bukita stayed by his side, not
by their choice, which we'll learn. Yeah. In her own podcast in
Rocacerada, Maria raquelen Portillo, she gives some insight on her own relationship with
said Conrade before before and all of that. So, Maria had dreamed of
being a star, like she sang before she could even talk, and her
parents like noticed, like, oh my god, she's like talented, and
so they wanted to help her make her dreams come true. They so they
traveled with their daughter Maria from where they were from to Suda, Mexico,
Mexico City, where Candrea worked and auditioned for him. He said he could
make her famous, and even the audition was confusing because he never even he
like showed no emotion. But this was all part of his ship, like
all the things he did, like the manipulation, Yeah, because that makes
you want to do it better, right, that makes you think you didn't
do a good job, and so you're like, I need to perform better
at the next one, Like I got it. He's he's still not smiling.
It's like the Simon Cowell thing. Yeah, oh my god, it's
exactly that. That just like the non emotion, non emotive kind of thing,
and you're just like sitting there going give me something like give me a
smile, like let me change something. So it compromises your own confidence,
yeah, you know, and that's what he wants. He did this all
the time. But he made them wait hours, like she said that they
waited like at least eight hours before even auditioning. It's just something that he
regularly did. Like we saw he did the same thing with Gloria Trevi So
he like said nothing about her performance. He just said, Okay, start
showing up every day at this time because you need work, you need training,
you need to get better. And her dad was even like, well,
we were only here for a month, like we have to go back
to work, and he was like, no, you guys need to go
all in or she's never going to make it. And so what they did
was her dad went back to Tamolipas, and her and her mom got an
apartment at the Ovehical so that she could keep training with him every single day.
And then he told her mom, and you know, once the dad
was gone, he told her mom and Maria Abukitas that they whenever they were
doing training or seeing you know anything, she had to be alone in the
room with him because it was too distracting for her mom to be there.
And so her mom, her mom didn't leave the premise. There was like
rooms in the back, and her mom was in the lobby waiting area the
whole time, but there was back doors, there was like other ways you
could get out without being in the lobby area. And so it all started.
Like she did her training and the whole time he was also like that
same serious, not really giving tips, nothing like that. But then once
she was like more and more alone with him, this is when the grooming
began. So like step one is get her alone, wrote which he had
successfully done by telling the mom you can't be in the room as to distracting,
And so then he started like sweet talking to her, paying her more
attention than her own parents, telling her things like, oh, your parents
are never going to understand you because like you, you have a dream,
you want to be famous, you're talented. They're not. Only I can
understand you because I can make it happen. She would ask how she was
doing, how her like family situation, like just paying her way more attention
than any adult was doing at this point in her life. And that's how
it starts. That's what he's doing. And then one day he told her
he wrote a song for her, like after their training or practice was over,
which also, like you mentioned, was like very gruelly in practice,
like play the piano and who your fingers are bleeding? Singing and seeing and
seeing and no breaks and like no food, nothing like that. I was
the regular training before she was even abused, like or this was abuse,
but before he fully groomed her, I guess you could say. And so
one day after that, a day of practice, he told her he wrote
her a song and it was a love song. Weird. I'm like,
what are you doing singing that to a thirteen year old? Oh? No,
sorry she was? How old was she at this point, fourteen fifteen
or even know anymore? Non consenting age? Yes, that is the point
of inappropriate love. Yeah. And so after that point, she began to
feel like she loved him. Oh, she was fifteen. I wrote it
right after I was going to ask myself. That's why I wrote it.
This is a reminder to take your met You're right, you're right. Yeah.
So after that she began to feel like she loved him. And again
she was fifteen and said, Yondrada, this was all part of his pun
like he knew this was going to happen. That's why he was paying her
all that attention and telling her all these things. And so after this song
happened, he began sneaking her out of the studio while her mom was in
the lobby, like thinking she was training. They were sneak out, go
on quote unquote dates and this is like when you know the it's not a
relationship, but yeah, like went on to the next step or whatever.
Yeah, and she thought she was the only one. And then he told
her like randomly, he was going to start a group and she had like
no choice in the manner. And this is when all the auditions happened.
And by other counts say Glorida was fifteen when she auditioned, but Maria Maria
Rekolleen said she was seventeen that Clorida was seventeen when she auditioned. I'm like,
oh, that's weird. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure she was fifteen.
She was fifteen. Yeah. Her and Gloria became instant friends. Maria.
Glorida would ask her like, oh, do you have a boyfriend,
and she would be like no, but this whole time said he was her
boyfriend quote unquote boyfriend. Yeah. At some point Gloria did tell or not
Glordida. Maria did too. Gloria that she was with said hell yeah during
this early even like this early in their relationship, said. He would continuously
tell Maria like, you're not gonna treat me like lucea Ito. Right,
She would ask again and again, like Lusaito broke my heart. He would
cry. He would start crying, oh my gosh to her and she yeah,
and she had to hold him and promised that she was always gonna listen
to him, she was gonna tell anyone about them, because what he would
tell her is that luce Ito broke his heart because she told her her mom
about them, and then he wasn't allowed to see her anymore. So he
was like, you can't tell anyone or the same thing's gonna happen. Hu
Citi too broke my heart. And it's just so creepy because they all look
like her. Yeah, like like every girl that he would go on to
abuse, Maria Bokita's Doriatrevi, they all look like her too. Oh so
creepy, disgusting, and he forbade her from talking to other boys, and
these were rules he had for all the members. And so after a while
of their relationship, Maria somehow ended up telling her mom that they were together,
and then they like were freaking out and then said he went and told
them like, oh no, she just she's obsessed with me. But as
her teacher, I keep it business. Yeah, this cannot happen. Obviously,
I'm an adult, and you know what, it's better that she likes
me and she's not out there with boys her own age. I imagine what
boys her own age would be doing, Like, no, we're just professionals
here, and that's what he told them. But no, the whole time
he had been abusing their daughter. And it's just and these people are like
charming convinced. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like Groomer's handbook one
on one, you know, is that you can't be a mean like you
can be a mean person, I think, but you ultimately like get the
past because of how charming you are exactly, and so her mom believed him,
and whatever time went on. So I think there was like a because
you know, families will go to another town for like the entire month of
like December for Christmas or whatever. Her family was going to go somewhere for
like a whole month, and she was crying and freaking out. Her mom
was like, why are you acting like this? This is so weird,
Like, yeah, she didn't want to be away from said huol for that
long, and so it was during that time that he told her I'm going
to fix this. And then he went and told their parents they were gonna
get married, and they were like what the fuck, Like you guys weren't
even what are you talking about? Yeah, how did this happen? Yeah
exactly, And he ended up convincing them in the same way like this is
the for the best, Like this is I'm going to make her so successful.
Think about how successful she'll be now being my wife. You know,
pretty much the same the same shit, same lines, and so they let
it happen. They did it and her, Like in Mariabuqita's this podcast,
her mom actually goes on and they asked her like, well, why did
you say yes? Why did you let this happen? And I think it's
a story that we hear time and time again, but she said like,
well, I didn't want to lose my daughter completely, Like I knew it
was wrong, but I thought that if I fought it, she would turn
against me. Mm hmm. I was like, well, if I let
this happen, like even though he's an older man, like, she'll be
safe and I and she won't hate me. And so she ended up saying
yes, And so he didn't let her have a King Signetta because again she's
fifteen. Yeah, so he was like, there's no King Signeta that's going
to happen. We're going to get married instead. But then instead of a
normal big lavish wedding where he randomly one day he got he talked to her
and he was like, we're going to get married right now, and she
had like an hour to tell her parents and they quickly went and got dressed.
They found a random witness like that's how like it was like spur of
the moment yeah, spur of the moment, like nothing was planned. Then
he's like, all right, we're gonna go to our honeymoon in New York.
And they said they're goodbyes, and then she was like, all right,
we're going to New York. And then they ended up going back to
Susan, Mexico to one of his houses where his mom lived, and they
never went to New York. He trapped her in the house for like ten
days. This is where he beat her. He raped her. His mom
would make Mariac clean until her fingers were like bleeding and everything had to be
spotless, or he would come back and beat her because something was wrong,
she didn't like clean the way she was supposed to something, and then didn't
let her go anywhere. Then after ten days of all that, they just
went back to Susan, Mexico and like nobody questioned anything. Nobody asked why
she was covered in bruises, like nothing. And again it's because these these
people, these men have I don't know, people willing to carver for them,
people that they're like, oh, that's just how they are. Yeah,
I mean, I don't think a lot of people even were talking about
domestic violence even then no, maybe not especially then I think it. I
mean, it was bad in the US right, like where people were like,
it's not my relationship, not my business, like it's not my problem
to deal with. I only imagine that. It's like ten times that sentiment
of like that's their family, that's their relationship, we don't get involved in
it, like we're not gonna go against him, and stuff like that,
and so exactly, you know, I can't I can't ever understand a mentality
like that of seeing somebody go through something like that and then not wanting to
do something. Yeah, you know, yeah, and yeah they went they
went back and it was like time to train again for the group of and
then he told the Budas that they were gonna all grab their stuff and live
together in that same house that she had just been in Maria Bokita's. They
were all to go there and live and spend every single minute together because they're
I don't know, I don't know why. Honestly, according to Sadyo,
the it was like how the group would bond or whatever. They were only
together a year and then he told them it was going to be disbanded.
But during that year that the Boksas were living together, they like trained and
trained often eighteen hour days. Satyondrada was cruel when the girls made mistakes and
during that time when they were like not training back in the house, Maria
began noticing that Gloria was like more and more reserved with her, especially when
she would talk about Sakyo and then oh and then I forgot to mention.
But this entire time her marriage to Setyondrada was to be kept a secret.
I think right before they were going to move into the group or everyone was
going to move into the house, he told her that she needed a new
name because she ran into a family member or someone that was like, oh,
Maria Raqanell because she went by Drakanet mostly that's her middle name. And
she ran into a friend or something who was asking her if she was going
to go to Tamaulipas to visit family, or that they knew her family from
back home. Somebody somebody recognized her Draconel and then her last names, like
somebody was like, I know your family from back home, how have you
been? And one Sitcomda noticed this. He was like, oh, you're
changing your name. Your name is too your last name plus your middle name,
it's too well known. People know that you're from Tamaulipas. From now
on, you're going to be Mariaboquitas. That's your new name, because it's
more anonymous and that way no one can find you, and you're gonna just
going to be more like hidden. And from from that moment on, she
was Mariabokitas. Yeah. See, and I hear two different things. I
heard that story, but then I also heard the one where she like wanted
to change it to honor his creativity. It's probably a little bit of both.
Yeah, it's like, you created this group, and I want to
honor it for like ever and show you like how dedicated and passionate I am
about it. And so she changed her last name to kind of honor that,
and I'm like, that's so sad, and she still goes by it,
so like I mean, it's you know, you can't it's you can't
do much with things like that because that's kind of your brand at that point,
you know. But it is sad to think about her being so young.
I mean, she wasn't even twenty one, you know, like she's
super young. No, she was so what fifteen during all this, Yeah,
just a it's a really sad mentality in terms of like the manipulation that's
happening and across the group, you know, like it was. I think
when people think of girl groups, they already imagine like the cattiness and all
that stuff, like a hundred times worse than this. Yeah, you know,
like he he created an environment for them to distrust each other when they
could have relied upon each other and leaned on each other for support a hun
he was like, I think he knew that, So I think he intentionally
created that environment so that none of them felt safe with each other and they
were all kind of looking to get the other person in trouble for his favor.
For sure, that's exactly what he was doing. And yeah, I
forgot to mention all that, but that's why I'm here girl the official co
host. Yeah, yeah, official, just kidding, feel better, germent.
So yeah, during all this time, Maria began noticing Gloria was more
and more reserved and spending more time was said. And then she also noticed
that said he was spending less time with Maria and with herself. And then
when the group was disbanded and everyone left, Gloria stayed and Maria was like,
what is happening. Why is Gloria still here if the rest of the
group left, But she didn't want to believe it. And then one night
she saw Gloria Trevi leaving said he was room late at night, and so
then she asked, said he if he was with Gloria and then he after
hitting her and all that, like was like, oh, that's what you
get for not listening. I told you not to tell anyone about us.
And again, if we like go back to a little bit in this episode,
she did tell Gloria about them m hm, and so he was like,
this is what you get. I told you not to tell anyone about
us, and you did, so this is what happens. And Maria,
again still young in love, abused. She felt like she had no choice
to accept it, but she was like surprised. In her own podcast,
she says she was surprised that the rebellious she got that Belosto, the girl
with her hair down, had also fallen for the same abuse that she had.
And these are her words like again, this just to me goes to
show that anyone can be groomed, anyone can be abused, regardless of who
they are, and because I think something like so many people when they talk
about the story Passed Over, is that they were both so young, Yeah,
so young, and he was fucking an old ass man like yeah,
comparatively speaking to them like I'm in I'm older than Sergio was at the time
this was going on, right, like I'm thirty five. Oh no,
wait, I'm thirty six. Mother, so neither way, like he was
still in his thirties, like he I mean, like not even in his
mid thirties. He's in his early thirties. Yeah, like thirty two thirties
some shit. But there's you know, I can't even begin to imagine the
type of mind frame you'd have to find a fifteen year old. I would
like pass you know, like makes me want to throw up, but don't.
I would say, you do you? But in this instance, don't
do you? Like, do not commit a crime? I don't understand it.
And you made a really great point here too, Like it's really easy
to villainize the women in this case, right, Like in the story,
it's really easy to say, like, oh, they should have said something
or they you know, Glodia is like known as this trailblazer for feminism in
Mexico, right, Like all of her songs deal with the kind of empowerment
and all this stuff. Like maybe now she's not known that, but at
the time people were like looking at her like you're amazing, Like you're speaking
for us and you're empowering us and all this stuff. And people who aren't
educated about violence are grooming and how it works. It's easy to blame the
victim. It's I mean, it's kind of like a knee jerk reaction to
be like, well you should have or I would have done. You don't
know how you would truly react, and you don't same thing like joining cold.
It can happen to anybody, and these were all kinds. This was
a very layered approach that he had. Not only was he grooming, he
was also you know, engaging in domestic abuse with more than one person.
But then he was also really, oh my gosh, what was I saying?
I didn't take my meds. I had a point, and I'm sure
it was great. It was going to be good. It was going to
be good. Just imagine it was great. I think so, yeah.
But all have to say is that he is a pos exactly in all he's
a piece of shit. Yes. So then in nineteen eighty six things started
going very wrong for Set. The wedding, the marriage to teenager Maria Bokitas
went public, not by her choice, rumors had been going around for a
long time now, but she was at a show or something. It was
like a television show, and the anchor, who was friends with Sea was
like howding her, like, oh, you're married, How you're married?
You guys are married, And at some point she had like no choice but
to be like, yeah, we got married. And so this came to
light, it was confirmed, and then at the same time, a father
of one of setnads former clients began looking for him and was public about it
because his daughter was pregnant. I can't even find this girl's name. I
think she's anonymous. Yeah, that has to be it. But that this
was all happening at the same time, and then this led said he had
to go into hiding, and he didn't tell anyone where he went. He
didn't even tell Maria, his wife, where he was going. And then
he also didn't tell Gloria Trevi. But all three of them had to be
living together at the time. Yeah, so he was gone for almost two
years. During this time, Gloria Trevi's own whereabouts are not really known.
They changed, like she the details of what was happening during this time changed
from time to time. She says she spent time singing and the bus for
money, teaching yoga, just trying to get by, but she was not
like singing or anything like career wise, and then said her resurfaces after almost
two years. She finds him again, and she wrote a bunch of songs
during this time period and they were good. He was like, Wow,
these are really good, and so she wanted him to produce her music because
like he was still insanely talented, Like you could see all the names he
had worked with before. He agreed to produce it, but he made her
pay for it. Yeah, Like isn't that crazy. I was like I
remember reading through that part and I was like, how are you going to
sit here with this as a multi millionaire? Like, yeah, his business
was not affected as greatly as like Gloria and the rest of the girls of
the group, like they had nothing when they left, right and even like
even though he was married to Maria, like still same things. It's not
like you went into hiding with her. He was like, no, he's
out, it's with me by myself. I'm taking care of me. Like
that was crazy to me because it was like she had again it's the coercive
control kind of thing. It's like, I'm going to make it so difficult
for you to exist on this planet that the only thing you want to eat
for breakfast, lunch, and dinner is my approval. Like that's literally all
it is. Yes, So he's like, yeah, figure it out if
you want to be famous. I'm broke, but I'm about to go to
my vacation home, so just let me know. Pretty much. She ended
up paying for it, and it was an instant success because she she was
also insanely talented. It wasn't just him his producing Like I would say,
she could have done it without him. But obviously at the time she didn't
know she had already been abused by him. She was so young at this
point, she was eighteen, but she had been abused by him since what
age fifteen, Like that doesn't go away over nine, obviously, so she
thought she him. Yeah, and she didn't have the confidence. I mean,
her confidence had been like drilled down to nothing, you know. Yeah,
at some point. He reconnects also during this time period with Maria Abukitas,
who had no idea where he was. Nothing about him Again, she's
also eighteen, they're still married. They're still married. So he tells her
he's going to open up like a talent school for teaching girls and then makes
her like the person that does everything. He might admin everything for everything.
Yeah, it's very strange, and so just like they had been living before
he disappeared went into hiding, he convinced, not convinced them, but like
force them that they were all going to be living together again. They were
both going to be with him, and they had no choice in this manner.
Yeah, so then they were all living together again, and he was
with both of them. He controlled everything, they did, abuse them,
they couldn't talk to what. I found one account that said they were forced
to live in like whatever office was in that same yes, in the they
were supposed to they lived in the uh sorry I had to adjust my chair
living in the uh the office building that they were in. But they weren't
even like I'm trying to think of a movie that was like this, but
they were like they weren't even allowed to be around the employees so like their
employees of this of this establishment, but they're like you stay back there,
and you know, again, deplorable conditions for these you know, alleged superstars
mm hmmm, yeah, especially Groya Trevi, who on the outside was this
rebellious figure, this feminist figure. In this entire time, she was being
abused too, right. So in her podcast in Boca, Mariabokitaz talks about
an incident that happened during this time period that Setiyo was furious because somebody had
eaten his tuna can and nobody would say who who was, Like Gloria and
Maria were like, it wasn't me, both of them. So then he
told Maria and trigger warning because this part is horrendous, but this whole episode
actually needs a trigger warning. I forgot to say that up top. I
will say it later and put it in there. But he told Maria to
undress herself, to get naked and then like lay face down, and then
he forced gloriad to come inside and then he kept asking Gloria, did you
eat the tuna can? And every time Gloria said no, he hit Maria
and this went on until he got tired because Grodad never admitted that she ate
it, and then Maria also said she didn't eat it, so he kept
hitting her until he got tired. And this he did things like this to
train them both basically to not like you were saying earlier, that they couldn't
confide in each other, they only had him and everything was up to him,
and this was just another way to further abuse, coerce them, make
them more scared, things like this, because he regularly did things like that.
He decided which one of them was going to sleep with him, because
they had it was like a house, and when they were they were not
in the office. Each person had their own room and he had the master
bedroom, and he would decide, Okay, tonight you sleep with me.
The next night you sleep with me. But even if they were chosen to
sleep with him, they didn't sleep in the bed with him. They slept
on the floor at the foot of his bed. Oh my god, and
that something yeah, insane. And during the same time period, Maria Bokitas
was forced to do all the household like cleaning the admin stuff of this talent
school, and Setu and Gloria were working on Grogatre Vis's solo career, which
again was doing good, was taking she was taking off. And then at
some point Setyo told Maria Bukitas that all three of them were going to go
to some promotional event in Pachuka, Ialgo. So all three of them went
and this is where they met Sonya Rios. She was a thirteen year old
girl. She was working at a stand with her mom. Said he'll convince
the girl's mom that she was going to work with them at this convention for
the like three days that they were there, and then convinced the girl's mom
that Sonya was going to make more money if she wants to see that,
and may he go with them. She was gonna be safe, she was
going to help them out because they were like very poor. He would make
her famous. Blah blah blah, the same shit, same shit as always
right, So he convinced this mom to basically give over give her daughter to
him like and she went with them, and so now Glodia was This is
what he told Maria Bukitas and Greye Trevi that Sonya was now part of the
family, that's what he called themselves. She was the first like girl after
them to become a victim of this like sect or cult or like, yeah,
whatever you want to call it. So and again she was thirteen.
At some point Media's family tried getting her out of this because they couldn't get
a hold of her. He didn't like let them talk to their family at
all, of course, right, he completely isolated them. Yeah, and
so they were like they desperate to see her. And I think at some
occasion they learned where she was, just through like Colleen offices something. I
don't know exactly how. Yeah, so she called the she called the recording
studio because it was one that he had used in the past and she knew
about it. I think I forgot how she found out, but she basically
asked the employee like, oh, hey, I'm trying to like get a
hold of him, and I can't remember where he's where he's staying and stuff.
And so that person was like, oh, no problem, he's staying
here and here's his room. And I was like, hello, safety security,
you guys. But I'm glad obviously, Yeah, she said something,
but that's how she found out. I almost feel like that was a different
location because then what I wrote was from her own podcast, and she says
that her and Clodia I met with her family at some point. Oh,
I'm thinking of Alene, my bad. Oh that's who. Yeah, because
that happened too. Yeah, like it sounds so familiar. And that's that
sounds so familiar. It's like basically the same. Yeah. Well we'll get
to add Oh my god. And this is only part one. This is
how bad this is. So Madia's family dragged her into a car and left.
Apparently at some point her dad paid Gloria because Glorida was trying to like
stop them from taking Maria. Then Saidio found where her family was at.
He had two cops with him, and they pointed guns at Maria's dad,
demanding he released Maria, and her dad pleaded like she's underage, blah blah
blah, and was like that doesn't matter. She's my wife. Now,
you have no rights over her. I'm like her guardian now because they're married,
which is disgusting. M oh true. And then Seidio grabbed a gun
from one of the police officers and like put it on her dad's head and
was like let her go. And so she Madia herself was like let me
go because she didn't want her dad to die and like they were so scared
they let her go and it's just and allowed to like intimidate them. It's
crazy, insane. Yeah. So after this all was happening, after they
found Sonya to join their quote unquote family, Gloria and Maria were in charge
of finding girls at the academy that said he could abuse. Though through her
podcasts and Brocasda, Maria Bukitas maintains that Gloria Trevi was better at it and
that because she was the more public figure, so she was really the one
finding girls. Now, Mariabokitas, we don't know how true that is,
but although I could see it because Gloria was the famous one, Mariabokitas was
basically hidden and like in charge of everything behind the scenes. Yeah, Gloria
Trevi was the face the fame. She'd be able to disarm somebody a lot
easier because you're admiring, like, oh my god, I gotta trust her.
She's a trusted figure, you know. And so in nineteen ninety,
Gloria brought thirteen year old Alene and Nanez, who Gloria through a friend that
was a dancer of hers. Of Gloria Trevis and so she auditioned with Gloria
and said you're in the room, and then like the audition was like they
all went. He was all still awake and serious and the same shit as
always, right, But then after the audition, Gloria Trevi told her that
there was another audition and that this was like standard, this was normal in
the industry. That said, he'll need it to see her naked basically or
like undressed, and she was like reluctant. Again, she's thirteen. She
doesn't want to address herself in front of a man. But Gloriac convinced her
that like this is what this is. Everybody does this basically. It's like
everybody in the industry does this. Like if you if you're going to be
serious about this, you have to be uncomfortable. And to some of the
credit, yes, that does happen, right, like you have quick changes
behind stage and you're like fully naked changing into your costumes and things like that.
But those are adults for the most part, those are not you know.
Yeah, yeah, so she's not wrong in that sense, but I
think you know, again, she's not been charged with anything. I mean,
she's been charged, she's not been what is likes she was not found
guilty in the eyes of the law, right, but she's had what do
they call like not personal loss with civil brought against her. Yeah, you
know, and those are easier to you know, the burden of proof isn't
as strong. It's more so like do you think this could have happened?
Of course, So you know, I think it's really disheartening to see how
that manipulation it's like a mold for them, Like it starts with Sergio,
but then it kind of like, you know, every every hit he takes
it and chips away at them as a person, they take on a part
of his personality because they know that's what happens. Yeah, this is something
that we see again again in all these types of cltes, where then the
abuse that were abused for a young age hit in adult age and now they're
tasked with finding new victims for the abuser exactly. So this this is a
thing, This is something that happens, and it's it's sad and you know,
like discussing at the same time. Yeah, and again doesn't take away
from their accountability exactly, you know, they should have it, but yeah,
it is sad to see that she used her own position to do what
was happening to her and what happened to her to somebody else who just had
a dream the other Yeah, I didn't know any better. So this was
Gloria her role in the because now it's like known as the Andrade trevi Coult,
which just goes to show how much blame they're putting on her. She
is also getting. But yeah, that that was her role. And so
said, Yo was obsessed with Alene and he started like he always did,
promises of fame and album, just like he did with Maria with Boitas,
and soon he began abusing her Alene and Nane this just like he did with
the other girls, the same thing. And then again like he had with
Maria Bokita's, he brought up lu Serito again. Yeah, I'm like,
what do you is? This like insane to me? The same shit he
would tell her, like, don't be like her, don't tell your parents.
She told her mom, don't leave me, broke my heart, don't
leave Yeah, don't leave me, blah blah blah, crying and shit like
discussing because you know, she was abused and a young girl. She believed
him and they had a I didn't want to call it a relationship, but
he was abusing her, and so then he announced to her parents that they
were gonna get married, just like he had with Maria Boqita's his parents,
same scenario. He forced Maria to sign divorce papers for him so that he
could marry now fourteen year old Alena ed Nanez, and then she moved into
the house with them. So now it was Maria, Gloria, Sonya and
Alene and the acts of abuse fighting new victims is continued for years. Some
girls came and went and didn't stay like the other four that were already part
of the house during this time. Sonya the first girl from Cado, where
they aren't even I lost track of where they were at whatever. From the
fruit stand. That girl she had a baby. She had a baby girl
and then a baby boy, and said, Hyo didn't want another quote unquote
man in the house, so he just gave her baby away the boy.
Oh my god, so disgusting, because you only wanted girls. Yeah,
so now you can add like what human trafficking to ye his a list of
crimes. So now there's more young girls Gloria Maria said jo all In this
house, right, and they're all being sexually abused, they're being starved,
they're being beat by him. Then we got to nineteen ninety four. Now
this has been going on for years, but like nobody knows about it.
In nineteen ninety four, twelve year old Karina Yapod and her mom were waiting
to meet Gloria with the hopes of Katina working with Setiyo, and they got
their wish. Gloria put together meeting like an audition for the talent school that
didn't really exist, right, it was a traffic school, yes, basically
it was not a talent school, and so she auditioned. And I guess
all these editions involved singing a song of Gloria Trevi and then acting like a
rich person and a poor person to show that they could act. Although the
what I read in Spanish was that it was like, you have to act
like an India or India and I'm like, oh, I'm not going to
use that word, but culture. Yeah, they had to act like the
slur for an indigenous person. That was part of the audition. Insane.
She passed the audition she was to join, and then Saidkyo did what he
always did he went to the parents said he needed this paper sign because being
part of this talent school required them to fly around from country to country,
and this paper would make it easy for him to let Karina fly with his
group from country to country. And so they signed it, not understanding what
they just did. They just signed their parental rights of Karina over to Seryo.
But they did when they said the paper, they weren't expelling what it
was. They just signed it because their little girl out to be famous,
right, Yeah, So then Karinaya was moved into the house. She became
part of the quote unquote family and then exposed to the same abuse, forced
orgies, sexual abuse, beating, starvings, and like you know. Another
crime that could be added on to Setiondada is that he would force the girls
to into like sex parties with like local police officers, politician like yeah,
gross as things. So he was s trafficking them. On one occasion,
Karina escaped the house, found a cop car that was driving by and told
them that she had escaped the house or she was being health captive and abused
by Setjio. They put her in the car and brought her right back to
him, where she received one of the worst beatings and she ended up in
the hospital. That's how bad it was. Alena and Nanez herself brought in
another thirteen year old, Madelina Galderon, because Alene, you know this whole
time, she also was supposed to be a start, She was supposed to
be like another Gloria Trevi, but this wasn't happening. Instead, she was
forced to become Gloria's backup singer and said he told her like, well,
you need to find a singer to replace you if you want me to make
your album. But really this also meant find a replacement for you in my
cult, disgusting cult. Yeah, and so she did because she wanted her
album. And so this brings Marilyne Kalderon into the cult, another thirteen year
old, and Alena's album was released, but it was a flop. It
was not good, and by this point she was seventeen. She managed to
escape the cult after this because like none of none of what was supposed to
happen, the reasons she wasn't during all this shit, like it went to
shit, Like, yeah, her album was made and it wasn't good.
The situation was getting worse so she escaped but said he didn't even care.
She just Alena just left a little note that said I'm not going to tell
anyone, and she left. And she was seventeen by this point. And
at this time, Clorida was bringing in so much money because she was I
mean, she was killing it. Yeah, she she had made three movies.
She yeah, she was killing it. And her fame made it so
easy for her to bring victims for him. And even though she was extremely
famous, her career was taking off. She wasn't allowed to talk to anyone.
She would do her performances and then just kind of go into hiding.
People began to notice this that she was just wasn't making any appearances nothing.
And then around nineteen ninety five, it was like this became even more evident.
Patticha boy wanted to sign her unto a contract with It was probably the
Levisa I'm guessing, and like u s and Gloria, well not really Gloria,
but Seed Conradees just like kept making excuses, kept adding ridiculous like shit
to the contracts, and this went on her months and then and then he
went with the opposing network. And this was like Patti was like, what
the fuck fuck this? So he made like an enemy out of Patticha Boy
and if anyone ever watched Bintaniando, like, you don't want Patticha Boy as
an enemy, she will come for your throat, and she did. She
had, like many others, had heard rumors about what happened going on for
years now, but nobody really looked into it. And she was like,
well, I'm gonna look into this. Yeah, So she began digging around
and this led her to Alene or Alena found her. I'm not sure.
I think she Elena had reached out to her, okay, And so Alene
told Patia Boy everything. Pattia Boy began like telling everyone. She began talking
about it everywhere she could. She was like telling people about this. At
the same time, Alena Ranez was working on her book like Gloria the Glory
for Hell and this is like also not a pun, what is it?
I don't know what the right word is, but like a metaphor. It
has a name, Yeah, it does, Yeah, because it's a play
on words for her name. Yeah, basically that's what. Yeah, because
of Gloriavis's name. Right, there's somebody who's going to be listening to this.
That's like it's a delay, dummies. Yeah, and then they'll give
you a one star review for not remembering the name. Yeah. And I'm
going to say to that, keep it inside, don't let it ruin Christmas
spirit. Yes. And so so Patti Cha Boy, the rumor or the
knowledge that Alena was almost done with her book, and Gloria's pin up calendar,
all these things like merged together because at the same time Serio Andrede released
Gloria Trevis, her annual pinup calendar. She had one every year. Every
year was all these like riska poses and costumes and stuff. This year,
though, for whatever reason, he decided to include pictures of his underage captive
girls in the calendar, and everyone was disgusted. Also to add on that
his victims were clearly malnourished. They did it on healthy people could tell,
Yeah, And so people were disgusted at the calendar. So this just kind
of like brought the heat that was already around him, like to one thousand
plus Patti Cha Boy starting to talk about his abuse, and the book was
about to release like April of the following year. So all these things merging
together. The accusations were where you could even find clips of Gloria Trevi.
Did you ever watch the show? Christina did ask that, Yeah, I
probably didn't. Yeah, that's okay. You can find Gloria Revi defending s
on the show, Cristina, there's clips of all this time, all this
happening, all these things together. Said, he was like, we need
to go, we need to escape. And even though Gloria Trevi was at
the top of her like fame and success, she went with him. She
dropped it. Yeah, her career, it was over. Basically, she
she went with him. They all went into hiding. Nobody knew where they
went at the time, but they had fled to Spain. And this is
where we will end part one, which is already like an hour and a
half long, two hours song. It's just yeah, it's a it's a
really intricate case. I mean, like there's so many things you could mention,
you could deepe dive into pretty much everybody's story, you know, yeah,
every every individual victim you yeah, yeah, And so you know,
I'm glad you're doing it because I think it's a good good reminder for people
to recognize that like this abuse can happen again to anyone, and it can
I mean a global superstar, you know, or a national superstar for Mexico
at least, like was willing to lose everything for this person, for her
abuser yea. And then like we said, it's like she also needs to
be held accountable because that's her point. Later on she became an adult and
she was also yeah, but she doesn't need to be held more accountable than
Sergio, which is what people try to do is they try and say but
her, and it's like, if no Sergio existed, we wouldn't have this
issue. Mm hm. So you got to start kind of at the source
of the whole of the whole thing, so exactly. And I also wanted
to talk about it because now there's like even more we're getting more and more
snippets of like the abuse and music industry with all the have you seen the
allegations not I mean they probably did really happen, but against P Diddy,
Oh yeah? And how I mean this California law, which is so great
I think for victims and everything that's come out where it's allowing them to do
this like look back period of being able to take their abusers to court.
I personally know somebody a fellow podcaster who's doing the same thing to her abuser
and is able, you know, And I'm so proud of her empowerment of
feeling the you know, the desire to do what she feels is best for
her and to bring hopefully justice, you know. But it's still it's it's
so great I think in some way and then tragic in another way that this
even had to be a law. Yeah, one hundred percent agree, you
know, it's it seems like kind of a duh, like you would think
you should protect victims, but I mean, you see time and time again
they're not, you know, So not to be a downer, you know,
but it's still there's still a lot of work to do, and so
it just I think people need to walk away with the understanding that this started
with Sergio, yes, you know, and a lot of the people you
know, Yes, like Gloria did some really atrocious things that she should be
accountable for, same for every other person who was manipulated by him in some
capacity, Like you're not absolved of the sin essentially just because you were victimized
too. So, you know, hopefully, I can't wait to hear part
two. Yes, yes, and before we go, do you have anything
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yeah, ooh, spooky recommendations. I will say, I just watched The
Exorcist Believer. Oh how is that? I've heard good things. I think
it's on Peacock now or Max. I can't remember which one. Peacock,
right, yeah, yeah, Peacock. It's actually not bad. This is
what I would say. I love the original Exorcist. Like I went to
the movie theater to watch it. Not the original obviously because I'm not one
hundred years old, but no shade, but to the one that was like
the twenty fifth anniversary or whatever, like when and saw that. So like,
I'm an originalist when it comes to the Exorcist franchise and movies, and
I thought they did a really good job. I was disappointed with some things,
but not surprised because it's a remake, you know, or it's a
it's a new thought on the Exorcist and how it works. But I thought
it was I thought overall it was good. I would give it to a
spookies, Okay, like that. It's not bad. Two point five is
Spookies. You know that's not bad. Yeah, I'll definitely, I'll definitely
watch it. It's a good Christmas movie, good snuggle, snuggle and cuddle
movie. You know, put on your Christmas pajamas and your hot cocoa with
the family. Nothing says nothing says Christmas quite like the Devil, quite like
Satany. Yeah, well, thank you so much. Yes, thanks for
having me. And yeah, everyone, I don't know, I don't have
like a cheesy line to end this on, so just stay a spooky hold
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