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And of course we have entered our third hour New Marrow trace on this Saturday
May fourth, twenty twenty four. Jenny is with us as well, and
we just heard shake it Up by the great Ray Coats, who is with
us via Skype all the way from the UK. Ray Are you there,
I am hey, Hello, Really excited to talk to you today, of
course, Uh, we've got you're here to talk about the soundtrack to Fall
Guy. The soundtrack of John Chatham's life. And by the way, John
very kindly sent me a book, sent me the book. I've not had
a chance to read it yet, but i will as soon as I have
time, because I'm very anxious to. But congratulations on this sound track.
Thank you, Thank you, Matt. When you pick it up, when
you pick up Full Guy, you won't be able to put it down.
It's gripping. It's gripping reading. Yeah, I got that impression from the
last time we had you on. You were talking about John's story and you
know not. I mean, it's a miracle, just based on what you
told us, that he's even been able to survive what he's been through.
It's really remarkable completely And I think another miracle is how John is taking that
experience and channeling it into more for yes himself, but also for others.
And his is one of those great untold stories. And the more I find
out about John, the more I spend time with him. They tried to
silence him in the country that he was shot in. He had to was
forced to sign almost like a secrecy pat swearing that he wouldn't divulge any of
what happened, and nothing happened, and then when he came back to the
UK was met with ultimately apathy because there was a lot of fuss over the
fact he was shot by the Bulgarian mafia and all of the things that ensued
afterwards. But then things went very quiet. So there was an initial buzz
around his experience and then things went very very quiet. So we are we're
making in roads into an incredible life, and John represents all of us in
a way because at some stage in life we all experienced I think where perhaps
people don't know the fullness of the experience that we've had, and that's one
of the fundamental reasons why John is sharing his life through the book, through
the music, and ultimately through a book to film as well. Yeah,
I mean it's certainly relatable in the sense that people can you know, everybody
experiences things that they maybe didn't expect or or you know, challenges. But
I will say, and I think I had said this too the last time
you were with us, that probably very few people have experienced being shot by
the Bulgarian mafia. So most of us, hopefully we'll get through this life,
not haven't experienced that, does John? I mean not that. I'm
sure you don't want to speak for him necessarily, but does he is there
any worry on his part about about putting putting all of this out there the
way that he has through the book and now the soundtrack and everything. I
mean is that, I mean, I assume, after what he's been through,
there's got to be some element of him looking over his shoulder sort of,
perhaps literally, if not, if not metaphorically. But I mean,
does he worry about this day to day? I think in conversations with John,
because I can not speak for him, so I completely get what you
mentioned just a moment ago. But we are so close, We genuinely are.
We're not just spending time writing the songs, which are a very very
deep level as well anyway, but we've spent lots of other time together in
discussion, and there were times in the past where John very much paranoia.
He's a chronic PTSD experiencer. I can't remember the exact figure. I think
it's fifty two or fifty four, and sixty is the top. It's obviously
not a rating you particularly want, but John is still experiencing PTSD to that
cute level. Now it's fifty two or fifty four. I can't remember the
number out of sixty. So it's incredible how he's functioning. But I know
years ago when he began to share what happened to him, that there were
of course grave concerns over this becoming public and others becoming apparent. But one
thing John does beautifully in the book is changes the names. Now it is
such a specific account of his life that in a way, even with doing
that, this is not something that happens on a regular basis, certainly not
that I'm aware of anyway. So it does take courage. It does take
courage and strength. But I think the decision John's made, and to some
extent myself by supporting this life of John's being told, is the passion to
desire to do that is greater than the fear of what could be possibly repercussions.
And it was such a complicated incident. I mean, John shared a
post and he said, at times, we all have those days where we
go to work and unexpected things happen. And he's so tongue in shake the
way he shares what happened to him. He said, because it's not every
day that you go to work and your shop by the Bulgarian mafia, and
he refers to it as an incident. And I've stood next to him when
he's been sharing his life with others, and he said, I was involved
in an incident that took place in Bulgaria. And I stand there with John
and say, John, I think it was a little bit more than an
incident. But that's his way of managing what happens. So in answer to
your initial question, originally, yeah, John had very very great concerns and
he was literally looking over his shoulder. But he's growing beyond that in the
sense of what he's achieving by sharing what others try to silence and is if
nothing else, it's tremendous courage from John to do that. Well, something
that we talk about a lot on the show, and I'm sure we've discussed
it with you and and Uh, but it comes up a lot. It's
a consistent theme and when talking with musicians and creative people generally, is you
know, all the terrible things that happened to us in this life, if
you can take negative things and and UH and do something positive with them.
In fact, we won't go into details, but Jenny just created a new
art piece that's that is a great example of that something negative, you know,
but but doing something creative with it, and and in doing something creative
with it, and and something that is you know, in the case of
what Jenny has done, because she you know, she makes these does these
beautiful paintings, so you know, to to take a negative experience and create
something positive and something that's nice to look at, that's appealing. Uh visually
is I thought you called it disturbing? Yes, well a good way,
but in a good yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah,
it is disturbed. It is a disturbing painting to look at. But but
but but again, but it's it's the positive part is creating art, making
art, making art from trauma, making art from tragedy, making art from
being treated unfairly or whatever it is. If you can make art from it,
you know, and a lot of music comes out of that. Obviously,
a lot of stand up comedy comes from and a lot of the great
comics will tell you, you know, they there it's a way of using
humor and making other people laugh. It's a way of of working through their
pain, you know, whether they're addressing something specific in their act or maybe
their jokes have nothing to do with anything that happened to them, but but
it's still a way of working through it. So uh yeah, Well,
often when I think of comedians, it's it's painful truth, isn't It's painful
truth at times, and that's that's why we laugh, Yeah, because we're
hearing a times painful truth. And when you said to Jenny, Hello,
Jenny, I hope you are well, Yeah, I'm good, thank you,
disturbing, disturbing. And if you think of creating anything, it requires
a bit stirring, a bit stirring, a bit of movement, a bit
of something that creates ripples, if you like. And I think art is
a wonderful version of that music likewise because it's vibrational. But of course those
vibrations at times do come from from pain, from sadness, from trauma.
And then the wonderful thing is, over time they then reform into versions of
the conversion of that experience, but also they can grow into victory as well.
I just recorded something and I shared the message that the steps we take,
the steps we we may not see them as strides, but ultimately the
steps we take are the beginning of the strides. Towards victory. So even
if we're sharing something which within itself could appear to be dark, shadow were
traumatic, that's crucial. That's crucially important because these are not things to be
avoided because they are part of our human experience. And I know at times
in the past I have I've tried to create musical art that not quite but
almost pink and fluffy, and you know, everything's wonderful, but of course
it isn't. So it's just interesting the way you described Gen's art work as
being disturbing, And I think art should disturb us, should disturb us,
and music should disturb us and make us think about things, perhaps at times
that we find challenging to face. And the more we do that, the
better will be. Can you tell us about the process of creating this soundtrack,
because if I remember correctly, so, is it that John came up
with the lyrics and you came up with the music or I mean, I'm
sure it's more complicated than that. But can you kind of take us through
the process of how this works creating this soundtrack pretty much pretty much as you've
described. John is a lyricist, a poet. His website is John cheatumpoetry
dot co dot uk. And that tells you. That tells you fundamentally the
mainstay of John he is a wordsmith. He's a wordsmith. So on occasion
we have sat together, we have sat together. So John has had some
words that perhaps he's originally sent to me, and I've started forming ideas.
I'm very impulsive creatively. I don't sit down and technically think, right,
this is going to have this vibe. I go I'm a lyricist myself,
so I go deep into the words. I go deep into the emotion that's
been conveyed, and then generally my fingers start touching the keyboard and I start
to form a chord structure, notes, and I start playing around until I
feel that some music and melody is representing the emotional energy of the lyrics.
So that's either one less so at the moment, and I think that's probably
because of time more than anything else, that John initially was with me fall
guy. For example, We've got video of me creating a chord progression,
and John had already sent me the lyrics, and he was in the same
room, in the room that I'm speaking to you now. And so a
couple of songs have been for that way, but others have been John sent
me lyrics I might have at times rearranged. I'm not massively digging myself up.
But if a minority report Tom Cruise means anything to you, that's how
I create. It's almost the same where I start. I have this screen,
this visual screen in front of me, idea wise, and then I
start moving words around and a musical form around, and it's a process.
And I know you'll appreciate this as well, Matt, that I haven't got
anywhere close to growing tired of yet. I just love the experience of receiving
and then transmuting and ultimately transmitting. So it's really the lyrics. The lyrics
for me, and particularly in the experience with John, they are They're the
blood. They're the blood really that pumps through the veins of the song.
Has Obviously, as you mentioned, John's a natural lyricist because he's a poet.
Has he always been a poet or is that something that or do You
may not know the answer, but I'm curious if that's something that he got
into after his experience with the Bulgarian mafia, or is that something that he's
always been that he's always had, always been, but not to the degree
that he is now. And I think to some degree it's similar with myself
musically. I've had that for many, many years, for well over forty
years from when I started forming songs, but not to the degree that it's
happened in the last few years. And again, within that experience of John
and myself, there's a message for others, which is it's never too late.
It's never too late to begin to open up more of the reason why
we're here, and creativity in whatever form it is, is such a good
way of doing it. So that's become more so for John definitely in the
last few years. How did the two of you meet and wind up working
together a local radio station in the on the Filed Coast, and John was
associated with the radio station. Of course, I'm a singer songwriter, so
I was creating music and grateful for it to be played, as is always
the case, and we were introduced to each other as a potential possible collaboration,
and we had an original meetup and it's a day I will never forget
because it's one of those moments in the film rocket Man. Rocketman, the
depiction of Elton John and Bernie Taupin. And when the moment happened that Elton
John is handed lyrics that are Bernie Taupin's, It's like a Hallelujah moment in
the film if you've ever seen it. And I genuinely feel that way with
John, that this was an experience that, in some form or another,
which I can't explain and don't understand, was meant to happen because we just
have such an ability together to form and John every single song, every single
song has so many gifts within it lyrically, and the lyrics stand on their
own, and then when you're adding music in they become even more. So.
We've spent time, so we met. Initially, we talked, John
shared his life and I was gobsmacked, as most people. He shows me
he's got a credit card with a picture of him and Pele on it.
And John's that type of person. He'll just bring out his phone. He'll
show you a selfie of him with a famous box. He'll show you a
signed portrait of al Pacino, and he does it in a way that it's
just a matter of fact. Oh look, you know, here's here's a
painting that I received a signed from al Pacino and what so. Yeah,
it's just it's just it's just an incredible person to be around him, and
we do have a good laugh as well. Now, who who else is
on these songs? Because you a lot of it. You do yourself right
in terms of playing the instruments, Yes, keyboard predominantly for me. Okay,
some songs on branching a little bit into bass. Guitar, Mark Walker,
I remember you gave a lovely commendation last time for the for the drum
track. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah on check it up spin
one. So Mark is the sound engineer but also guitarist on all of the
music I currently record. Michelle, Michelle, my partner is on a song
we're not playing today, but cry, which is one of mine and John's
co written songs. A lot of vocalists I'm working with at the moment,
but predominantly musically, it's myself and Mark Walker with the music that's released under
the name Ray Coats. Yeah, I think I remember now making that comment
about because yeah, the drums just sound so good. There's a lot of
music that well, you know, I'm a trained audio engineer and I'm always
complaining about production on you know, not openly, but in my mind,
I'll be listening to music and I'll be thinking, Jesus, if I'd been
in the studio, I would have done it this wear that way in terms
of production. So when I hear when I hear really good drums, I
often say, you know, I'm not a big fan of some of our
listeners. Of course here in the United States will probably relate to what I'm
gonna say, but you know, I often I'm not a big country music
fan. But I have to say in Nashville, they've really got it figured
out in terms of production and the drums. Any modern country song that comes
out of Nashville, the drums sound incredible because they've really figured out how to
how to mix the drums. So that, yeah, that always impresses me.
Now, are you working on as this is going on, and as
you're working on all of this with John with the soundtrack, are you concurrently
produce, producing and creating other music as well? Or because it seems like
you've always got more than one thing going on, right, Well, it's
like I've tried cooking, for example, a roast dinner, and I never
cease it never ceases to amaze me how people can keep all of these things
simmering at the same time and can currently bring a meal to completion, Because
that's not that's not something I've developed the ability to do. But I guess
musically that is what I do because I always feel like I want to have
something simmering in the background, and I think then it creates the opportunity of
the thing that is currently being shared doesn't necessarily have a shelf life. For
example, with John's project, this is this is going to be ongoing and
is going to become part of more. But because I love the creative process,
and because I also realize it's a content volume based experience. And what
I mean by that is the more you create, then the greater chance you
have of certain things becoming a bigger thing. And of course in that process
there are elements of things that you think that was okay, that was all
right. Most of what I've written I'm comfortable with, but some things are
becoming even more. So the answer is yes, at the moment, there's
some incredibly big projects and I can share them here publicly because I feel I
want to. One is with a very very famous eighties band in fact,
actually their tour in the US soon, which is Madness. Madness and myself
and John have actually written a song that we're making a social media project out
of, which is a song called Penguin Island and it's a song that's written
for Madness and basically we're tracking them down. We went all the way to
London from the northwest of the UK to chase Madness and it's beginning to become
a very very lighthearted it's a little bit like a musical version of the stun
Cops and we're chasing this band for them to play the song that we've written
for the Penguin Island. We had a saxophonist in the studio, Lewis,
who is absolutely incredible because Madness very very well known for sax in their song.
So that's one and that's that's going to be approaching soon and we're going
to be sharing video content our purshoot, our pursuit of the group cool And
the other one is Tyson Fury, who I'm sure is well known in America
as well the boxer, yes, and not exclusively but the boxing world and
mental health. So we've written an absolutely stunningly beautiful song which has some amazing
backing vocals on as well, which is likening life to training and the boxing
ring. So the song is called the Ropes of Life, and funny enough,
I've just protected the song this morning so I can share it now.
And basically the idea is that feeling of isolation when the boxer goes into the
ring knowing that they're going to get hurt, knowing that there's going to be
pain involved their training regime, and that basically is the illustration for all of
us because effectively, we show up in life every single day and at times
we know we're going to experience pain, but we still show up. So
this is a real strong song. The cover artwork I've just finished this morning
and it's very, very powerful. And I'm beginning to become more public about
the stuff that's going on on the back burner, so to speak, because
I know this is growing into more and that's why I'm allowing enabling that to
happen. So we've got loads of projects. The today project, I guess
you could say, is, of course John and fall Guy Run for the
Roses, released this weekend, which ties in with the Kentucky Derby as well,
which there is relevance and connection with John's life, the property in Bulgaria,
the land. The American who got John to go there and purchase the
land wanted to turn this land into a race course. Yeah. Yeah,
So there's so many so you now get without jumping ahead as well, the
further song as well on the soundtrack album. So there's real, real deep
meaning and relevance in the world of horse racing. And ye, John's a
magician, a magician with his life and with words. Well, let's since
you mentioned it, now would be a good time to play Run for the
Roses. We'll give this a listen. Next, of course, if you're
just joining us, we have Raycoats skiping in from the UK and we'll give
this a listen. This is of course from the soundtrack of John Cheatham's Life,
and this is called again, this is Raycoats. This is called Run
for the Roses. Let's uh check this out and then we'll we'll talk with
Rays more. I'm gonna run for the Rose. Lying alone in my own
code wa bed it seems I came back from the day. A tourist screeched
to a halt outside it's the green light to go. If they decide if
the best you lin, then I must be sorry for you. It isn't
terrible bed. As I leave you today with you you in my trail,
you can bet on your line. I'm gonna run. Fall on the road
says thing. You can bet on your lie. Running the fall says,
And if you enjoy one time drimp, I play feeling like I was just
in my taking a residence in the bird's home. I found some feet above
the black sea coach. If a bullet is the best that you can do,
then I'm must be a sorry for you. Dad is a terrible old
fan. As I leave you today with you in my trail, you can
bet on your lie. I'm gonna run sas and bad and I running U
sys run aroun, I'm heading bought the coach to jail. Run around,
so you go back home home on my way, You bully, it is
the best that you can do, then I must be sorry for you.
Sell the folks back home home on my way, and the fog is leaving,
said you can man your life. I'm going around here fall the rove
says, you can bet all my life. Running the fall the ro says,
round around and I'm really going up coast today. Run shall go back
home? How all my work I'm doing, he says, men on my
life, I'm going to run, says Shell. The folks back home,
the full guys leaving to do that has run for the Roses. That is
Raycoats from Fall Guy, the soundtrack of John Chatham's Life, and we have
Ray Coats with us on Scype all the way from the UK. Ray what
time is it there, by the way, It is just after half four,
just after half four in the afternoon, in the afternoon. Okay,
very good, very good? Yeah? Now how many how many tracks are
on the album total? Well, at the moment, that's again a great
question. We are the album is a work in progress. We've got all
of the songs written. But I'm hoping that you will agree with this that
we've we've set up a go fund Me, so we've already organized that.
We're promoting that. That's a very common thing within the arts these days,
where whether it's musicians a band set up a go Fundme to complete an album
or filmmakers do likewise as well. Sure, And we've got a target of
six three hundred and ninety nine pounds sterling, and we're promoting it because we
need support because recording time cost money, time to travel to the studio,
and this figure that I've just given you will also be the production of the
album. So for example, those that donate to the gofund me and we've
created a link for that will receive a CD copy, a USB key copy,
souvenirs we're going to get printed souvenir, but also we're looking to convert
the album into vinyl, and of course to print vinyl that costs money and
that's included in that figure that I've just given. So basically, we've got
four songs that are released as singles and they're finished, they've been released.
We've got another song that I know we're going to be sharing in the show,
which is a demo mix version. It's a better version than the original
one. And we've got another four songs. So we've got another four songs
written, but we need it's difficult to say time wise because it depends on
each individual song, but a good few weeks in the studio to complete the
album. Hence that's where the support comes from. But it's one of the
tracks is also going to be a version of four Guy, a song that's
already released that's actually going to include John's voice and it took John four and
a half years to learn to talk again. Wow, So this is this
is not sideline stuff. This is just like a It can be a commercial
project, but not solely, and that's not me trying to put worth and
value on what this is. It's incredibly powerful and a lot of the songs
are very very upbeat. Run for the Roses released this weekend, so that's
available spot of iTunes, Amazon Music, YouTube, everywhere. Is effectively John's
victory song. So we've reached an initial finish line, which is where we
are with the four songs. We've got a fifth that's underway, but we've
got another four that we desire to complete for the entire album project, and
that's where we welcome the support of others. We're also looking, which is
why we're promoting for sponsors, investors, and this is an incredible life story.
We know it's leading to more. There's a screenplay currently being written,
so anybody who connects with myself and John, it's the beginning of something that's
happening anyway. So it's a really, really good time to be involved and
to support what we're doing. You mentioned it took him what did you say,
four and a half years for him to be able to speak again.
Was was he what? Was he shot in the throat? No, he
wasn't. He was shot in the leg, but because of the fall.
So basically he was shot on a bridge and then pushed over the bridge.
Oh wow, So I think it was a twenty five foot drop. Oh
my god. So that the injuries that John sustained also the bullet was left
in him because it was a hatchet job in terms of what could be very
brutally deemed as surgery in Bulgarian a very very crude, what can't even be
termed as a hospital. And all of this comes out in the book.
John was was beaten up as well by the local police with the threat of
not sharing what happened, and effectively fled and escaped Bulgaria. At the time
Bulgaria went in the EU. And in this I just want to say as
well, there's no there's no political statement. It's being made even against the
country that I live in, the UK, But I'm making a statement of
fact because this is a human being who wasn't supported in his own country when
he returned, and that's why it's such an important life to share and others
can support us in that because it's when you read Fall Guy, I can't
capture it within the time that we're spend together. It's astonishing that John is
still here and doing what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. In addition to
the book and the music, has he done anything else? Has he participated
in, you know, the making of any kind of a documentary or anything
about what happened to him? Not yet, not yet, but that's part
of what we're looking at. Whether it will either be I should imagine it
will be a dramatization of his experience, but I also think because this is
becoming bigger, that's why we're creating the songs as well to profile this,
and that's why we're looking to others who have far further reach than we have
the world of social media. We do the best we can and things are
growing and the awareness is growing, but we're also reaching out to others.
So we're actually going to be setting up events very soon in the local area
and then expanding so effectively an evening with John Cheatham and it will be me
asking questions of John what happened. It will be very very lighthearted at times
because that's me and John, and there'll be Q and A from the audience.
There'll be a few songs, some book signing. So we're looking to
do things like that so that, again, we can generate the varieties of
energy that we require in one of those of courses, financial and also the
momentum, the momentum to take this wider spread the word for it to grow
into what it's already becoming. And I want to emphasize again there is a
screenplay that's taking place that's been written currently, so progress is being made.
Definitely. Yeah, very good, very good. We should well, let's
go ahead, and I want to play this track Horsepower, which you know
you mentioned this is a demo version, but so I've been kind of teasing
people with it. You know that this actually includes my voice on it,
and I'm very I was very honored that you asked me to do this.
So what else should we know about this song before I play it? Ray?
I think it's incredible what happened, Mat. I sent the words that
John had written for a piece for you to effectively narrate without actually knowing the
context of what it was going to become a part of. Yeah, And
effectively horsepower is another reference to the world of horse racing and a comparison with
John life. And it came to me recently it's like that that race.
I'm not massively a fan, to be honest with you, I'm not condemning
horse racing, but of course tragically that there's a loss of life within that
sport, as there are within others. But effectively, John more than stumbled
at a herd of fell and got back up, and effectively the analogy of
the horse, the horse race and the horse power. Horses are tremendously powerful
creatures. Yes, so effectively that turning of being out of the race and
then coming back into the race, and it's very similar to Run for the
Roses. And I want to say this because it's from the heart, Matt,
and I've heard those that have heard it, which is not many,
by the way, because I'm very close guarded with certain things. What an
absolutely incredible job you've done. It adds so much to the song, and
the song is growing and we want to add more to it. But I
just want to say thank you so much. Answer Jen as well for all
of your organization of the work you've done on horsepower and we can't wait to
finish in Oh oh, thank you, Ray. I appreciate that very much
and no, like I said, I'm honored to be a part of it.
Well, without further ado, let's we'll give this a listen. This
is a demo version of horsepower and I'm on the track, so here it
is everybody. He stumbles out on the gate and can't find this stride,
trying to complete the first step, so trying to beat his record time,
he spading quickly and finds himself propping up the back of the sack. He
keeps his mind as I'm hogings today as quickly needs it. Back on tracks,
another slashing us going through the next for a walk, the rest of
the packet, final quarterfall, here's the final belt. I'm not sure if
he's destined for heaven or health. Guardian angels are calling him at this point,
saying we are not ing this thorough bred today. There's no chance of
the devil standing in our way. Drinking Black Eyed Susan's with raven head,
blue eyed bloom seas somewhere in the cookie state, I'm falling away from home
I must be laid by. When I's on the phone, my body's strung
out like Monday washing. I can hear the bye no bell hearts Poe,
the race up his life husp. Is this the replay from her? Back
at the back and sinewing with fun? Realize my work is done? Another
one say from an early grave where no one belongs, perhaps only a boat
claw or maybe in a song. I can hear that by and no bear
hasp The race sup he is live? Hasper? Is this the race from
hell? Has the race? Save? Here is live? Hat? Is
this the replay from hell? I can hear the fire of bell the double
one. God decided to toss a coin to seal his faith, but isn't
too late. The devil has a double headed coin and is about to rejoice.
The angel step in and, feeling there is no choice at the finishing
host, the thorough red is saved and they realized there's no stopping him today.
There's no stopping him today. There's no stopping him today if you can
all right. That is the demo of horsepower. Ray Coats is with us
via Skype all the way from the UK. Of course, that is from
a fall guy the soundtrack of John Cheatham's Life, and yeah, thank you
again Ray for asking me to do that. That's okay, I really like
it. How do you feel about it? How do you feel about it?
How do you feel how's it worked out for you? Because obviously you've
heard it. Yeah, yeah, no, I like it in the context
of when you recorded your vocal that was without the music, if you get
me right right, Yeah, yeah, I mean you did give me some
guidance in terms of of, uh, you know what what I should how
I should approach it were you you've done it, You've done it, which
was helpful. But no, I appreciate it, and yeah, it's wonderful
to be a part of that. I did notice too. I like how
the lyrics at the end of it kind of reference the other track, they're
Run for the Roses, brilliant. Thank you. That was actually in the
studio Wednesday of last week and it just came to me and I thought it'd
be wonderful too, very very appropriately bookend. So the opening lyrics to fall
Guy, which was the first single that we released, and one of the
lyrics, as you've just said, from Run for the Roses, If a
bullet is the best you can do, then I must feel sorry for you.
And this is where it's such a powerful message. It really really is
that it could be. I'm not saying it is, but I guess some
people could think, wow, this is a bit you know, challengeing,
traumatic, dark Yes, there were elements of that, but my goodness me,
it's the victory of the human spirit. That's really what this whole project
is. Because John's lyrics, his words, his life. If a bullet
is the best you can do, then I must feel sorry for you.
I mean, if that's if that's not courage and strength, I don't know
what is. He's saying, You've not You've not got over me. And
John is about victory, not vendetta. So he's about sharing the power of
his experience and they try to get rid of him and it didn't work because
he's still here and he's standing toil. Yep. Yeah, absolutely very good.
Now, so you probably don't know at this point when I mean,
do you have an idea in mind of when you'd like to have the full
album out? Like you said, there's a great question. There's some crowd
crowdfunding involved. I know, yeah, great question. Originally it would have
been June, which would have been nineteen years from the incident that I'm using
the word incident now that happened to John. I can't remember the exact date
off the top of my head. That was an original plan. Of course,
when we're not we're not going to achieve that. So it's a difficult
one because I don't want to I don't want to sound like it's a poor
cry, because it really really is. But I'm working like many people,
and within social media it does at times feel like we're banging a bit of
a help us out drum, but we do need support, so there's no
getting away from that. And the simple answer is when we reach our target
that will enable us to complete the album, and the more people that can
donate, even what could seem to be a small amount. The gofund me
the minimum is five pounds UK sterling. I'm I'm not sure what that translates
to in US dollars, but yeah, it's a reasonable sum. But people
can donate, for example, twenty five pounds UK sterling and they'll receive a
vinyl copy of the album, but that's subject to us meeting our target.
So it's one of those where we need to still keep shar but effectively,
the more people that donate, that figure is going to go up massively,
which is the whole idea of a crowd fund. So I'd love to answer
a question, but at the moment, I can't give a specific date.
I mean, I think somewhere before the autumn would be wonderful, But we
really need to get this fund rising. Yeah, that's a necessity. So
also equally, if anybody has any expertise or ideas on that, we're open
to suggestion and certainly open to support. All right, very good, very
good, Ray. The time goes so quickly. We are approaching the top
of the hour. But I want to make sure that our listeners know where's
the best places to go online to keep up with you with everything that you're
doing, and of course to follow along with this project and and everything you've
got going on. What should people know about where to find you online?
Well, Raycoats, it's r A Y co O A T E s all
of the music. I've got a Spotify artists page, iTunes, Amazon Music,
YouTube website. I need to do a little bit of work on which
I'm planning to do so Raycoatsvoice dot com, across social media, Raycoats or
Raycoats Voice and John John is John Cheatham. That's John C. H.
E E. T H A M. Poetry dot co dot uk and between
us and individually we're working on a number of projects as well. All right,
fantastic, fantastic, Ray, Thank you so much. This has been
wonderful as always, and again thank you for including me in the project.
And wonderful to talk with you, my friend. And we will do it
again soon. You're always You've always got stuff coming out, You're always working
on stuff, so I'm sure we'll talk you in the near future. Fantastic.
Thank you so much, Matt, thank you Jen, and thank you
to your listeners as well. All Right, thank you, Ray, take
care, cheers them, bye bye, all right, bye bye, all
right the great Ray Coats. And just before we wrap, I actually am
I didn't. I didn't tell them that I am going to play one more
Ray Coats song, the track fall Guy, which he did reference during the
interview, so I was like, you know what, I'll play that one
to end the show. But we want to remind people too. So your
art at Mosaic, yes, yes, it's the painting's been dropped off and
the opening will be actually next Saturday, on the eleventh, at four pm,
will be the official opening of the resurgence art of the Botanical Juried Show
and everything will be on display there from the sixth this coming Monday, until
I believe it's the twenty eighth. Okay, what does that mean? By
the way, a juried does that mean it's like a jury of people who
decide what side what gets in? Yes, exactly, that's exactly it.
Yep, okay, and all of the Mosaic are collective shows are jury.
To my knowledge, this is my second time making it in to one of
their shows, and I'm very excited about that. It's really great. Yeah,
you can see that painting and find out more information on me. Lots
of new videos of me in Minnesota and Washington, DC at Gencoffee dot com.
J E N N C O F F e I dot com. Very
good, Very good, all right, and uh if you miss any part
of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at w
n H Radio dot org and in my website Matt Connorton dot com. And
uh oh, I knew there was something else I wanted to mention. Tomorrow
night will be at Run Like Thieves, Run Like Run Like Thieves is planning
Conquered in the Bank New Hampshire Pavilion. It's the Yes, the Bank Newhampshire
Stage in Conquered, Yes, at six pm, Yes, six, and
we will be there, Yes we will so come say hi. Yeah under
the Run Like Steve's show tomorrow night starting at six and conquered. We'd love
to see you. Yeah, we had them on the show recently. We've
had them on a couple of times. Great band, great guys, great
guys and uh yeah, really looking forward to that tomorrow night. I knew
there was something else I wanted to make sure we mentioned, So I'm looking
forward to see who we're going to see at the show. Yes, yes,
be fun. All right. With that, we will wrap up with
here's one more track from Ray Coats. This is called this is Fall Guy.
This is from the soundtrack that we've been discussing and we will finish off
with this. And that's going to do it for us for now. I
will talk to you all a little bit later. Bye everybody, Bye bye.
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ramp racing through that cold water. Happened? Do you rest up? Signs
fusefully telegraph lights. Days you shine at days you hide the pain whilst looking
down on your scene the fate. You know. Sometimes it's just to make
the sun signs. We are made to take a farm no matter, I
said, no man, Oh don't know the raisonne up became the fall guy
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white coat wool all over way too soon. Heavies came and throw me away.
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down, dampen the last since I days then you shine and days you hide
away. I was looking down on your seeing fate you nor Sometimes it's just
a main sun signs. We are made to save your father. No man
said, no man until no reason why that became for fun girl when laid
down until a firmer grand I can stay near the angels amplified sound. Now
this no escape. Out's fine. I've just simply lost my life to some
signs. Be un made to take a poone. Don't never howl saying,
no matter how to tell, know the reason why I became to the front,
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