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Hello, This is Deb from Debs
Data Dojo, part of the Calling All

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Beings podcast network. Today, I'm
talking to Lady Caprov, who is a

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spiritualist, poet, singer and artist. She is a medium that has seen

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many spirits and entities. She communicates
with them almost daily. She joined the

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dojo today to provide her perspective regarding
the phenomenon. Also with me today is

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co host Keaven. He is an
art based musician, member of Calling All

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Beings and a behavioral technician. Thank
you for coming, both of you,

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Welcome to the dojo. Hello,
thank you for having me. Thank you

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for having me. So, I
was really excited to finally get to bring

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a medium to the dojo. I'm
very interested in your spiritual abilities, and

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I guess I thought we could start
with maybe your history. How did you

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discover your gift? Well, it's
something that I've had since I was a

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child. But with the background that
I come from, I come from kind

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of like I'm from the South,
kind of like a Southern Baptist background.

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So me being kind of different from
everyone, the gifts that I had,

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they were kind of frowned upon and
kind of I was kind of told,

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you know, don't do that,
get crazy. But it took me getting

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out on my own and that's when
my guides kind of they basically they put

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me in a trance, you know, so that I can see them and

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know that because every one of my
family and I don't want to speak into

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it in kind of like a negative
way now because I'm over that. I

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know it was something that I had
to overcome to get to where I am

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now. But they had to,
you know, put me in a position

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where I had to listen and know
that they're my guides, my ancestors.

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They are anything to harm me or
anything to be scared of. So that's

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how I am here now. Okay, I'm so very very young. You

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started, and when you first got
the communication from them, how was it

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that you got it? Was it
a visual thing or did you hear them

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it was an auditory Well, I'm
very gifted, and I kind of like

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to use that loosely because people can
tap into their gifts if they balance their

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choker as well. No, I'm
gifted. Okay, yeah, I'm gifted.

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I have a very strong fameo Gland. I can see I see a

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lot of dreams. One of my
strongest gifts is clear audience, and that

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is something that I've had since I
was a child. I would hear creatures

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and things and I was like,
what is that? And I would tell

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like, did y'all hear that?
They're like, no, we didn't hear

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that, and I would just wonder
what it was. But my strongest gift

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is clear audience and the dreaming.
Okay, so I'm gonna have to ask

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what creatures were you hearing? That's
actually really interesting. I can only say

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what I think it is. I
can't say exactly the name, but they

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sound like aquatic animals. Basically,
I have an idea of what it could

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possibly be. But now with all
the things that I've learned over this short

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period of time, I just don't
like to give names to things. Yeah.

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So, actually, one of the
conversations that we had that were kind

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of led to you coming to the
dojo was we talked about, you know,

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a lot of people are trying to
adapt FI with the UAP phenomenon and

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the occupants of the UAPs, and
we talked about, you know, could

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they be extraterrestrial? Could they be
something else like future human? And you

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gave the perspective that they might be
something like angels. Yes, I think

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that extraterrestrials, aliens, spirit beings, they're all just angels. They're just

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all different names for them, that's
it. They're all on different frequencies from

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different galaxies on dimensions, but they're
all angels. Demons, Yeah, they're

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demons, but you have to be
on that frequency of a demon to it.

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It's more so of a fear thing. But just think of it as

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there are more angels nam demons.
So I'll just say that, Kevin,

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Okay, Well, I think it's
interesting that you you you're interpreting them as

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angels, because there's a long history
of that. Actually even in the Bible.

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I mean, you've got Ezekiel,
right and his Ezekiel's wheels, the

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UFOs, all the spokes. He
calls them angels in his eyes. You

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know. Also, in fact,
there's sightings from Russian cosmonauts. They they

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see they see humans you know,
that have wings, you know, and

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they have halos and these are in
space. There's something cosmonauts have reported like

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in the eighties. So I was
wondering, based on the angelic thing,

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is there a way that you regularly
contact them maybe? Is it through meditation

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or is there a controlled way to
do it? Well? Since I was

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younger, I've always noticed, you
know, certain angelic presences around me because

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of the clear audiences. I don't. I think you could possibly be a

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little clear audience. If you aren't, you are, I feel like you

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are. But but you know,
when you hear a certain frequency, when

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you hear a certain sound, you
know when they're around. But when I

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have different ways that I communicate with
them. When I was really starting out

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with mediumship, I would use you
know, the candle and the meditation like

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you just spoke of, but you
know, as it grew, it would

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just be kind of like that.
I don't currently do readings right now because

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taking a break and kind of studying
more about what my ancestors did and their

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spirituality, because it just resonates so
much the more I learned about it.

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It's just like this is just another
language of what I'm doing right now.

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So, yeah, that's what I'm
doing right now. Yes, I was

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just reading about indigenous cultures and how
they have a different perspective on all of

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this. Also, they tend to
call the others sky or star people.

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Yes, and then they often say
that some of them are their ancestors,

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which is, you know, kind
of lines up with other statements people have

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made about us possibly being hybrids and
things like that, and there's like a

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really long history connecting humanity to these
others. So do you get that sense

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when you communicate that there might be
a long history that they that these beings

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may be more ancestors than extraterrestrial Yes, most definitely, because we're beings of

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light. We are it's literally in
the word soul, think of it sol

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solar system, sun energy light.
Yes, most definitely, and that's all

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they have to stay on there right
right. And and to you, are

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you able to see like ORBS tends
to be a big aspect of the phenomenon

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and spirituality, are you also able
to see orbs? Yes, every day,

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every day, yeah, mm hmm. And and so overall the FaceTime

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what you said earlier, you get
a benevolence from all of that, Yes,

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all of it. For them,
for the most part, they never

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tried to you know, push me
over, hurt me, do anything to

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me. So like I was like, hmm, maybe you know it's not

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bad. I mean, if they're
not trying to hurt me, So yeah,

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And you said you've also, you
know, had connection with guides,

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so I mentioned that they've been actually
more helpful than harmful. Of course.

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Yes. And I'm not around you
know, low vibrational beings too much because

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usually when I'm around them, they
kind of skidattle. But I can tell,

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you know, when it's something that
I'm not supposed to be around the

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way that I feel in my body. So yeah, but that doesn't happen

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much. It's just an inner knowing
that they're not bad and I'm supposed to

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be speaking with them. Okay,
Kevin, do you have something you wanted

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to say? It looks like you
wanted to add something. Well. I

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wanted to know if you've ever used
your abilities to help to help anybody.

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Yeah, in my readings in my
mediumship, yeah, I helped them through

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a lot of things cool, like
what you'll like, give advice about,

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advice about relationships, advice about getting
through hard times in their life, because

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I've been through many. Yeah,
I'm not ashamed to say that at all,

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because I wouldn't be here where I
am now if I didn't. And

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and helping them especially with coming to
terms with past levels and when someone comes

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I'm sorry go ahead, Kevin.
No, I was gonna say, when

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someone comes to talk to you about
past loved ones, how did how did

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the the the people who have passed
make themselves known during that? It's so

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hard to okay, being the clear
audience. It's just it's it's an annoying

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and it's just an extra voice that
you hear. That is the best way

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that I can explain it. It
sounds crazy, but that is the best

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way I can explain it. That's
how it happened. But I would say

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I did not do though so much, because it felt like I did more

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of you know, when the people
came, I was kind of like a

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voice of the ancestors, because if
you you should know, the ancestors are

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close to God. So they were
leading me and telling them what they needed

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to hear when I was doing readings. I'm not the person to play with

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you and tell you, oh,
yeah, you should get back with them

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and do this to do that.
No, I'm going to tell you what

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you need to do, what's best
for you for you to be happy.

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So yeah, I make sure it's
heard clearly what you need to do.

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Okay, So they probably kind of
push what the message should be right onto

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you? Is that the impressions like
the kind of yeah, No, do

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you mean like the people that I
helped the spirits? Yes, because that's

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what too wition is is here from
your guys. So yes, So basically

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you're you're saying, it's a frequency. So basically you're able to tap into

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this frequency. It's almost like it's
like music. Because I'm a musician too,

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I can I can pitch this with
anything. I can reproduce pretty much

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any song. It's that's interesting that
a lot of artists also have this,

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this kind of ability to tap into
different frequencies. I think do you think

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that maybe it's well, we had
a guest on Cab recently where we had

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a discussion about what was it was
inspiration, and we think maybe artistic inspiration

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may be also on this frequency that
artists can tap into. What what do

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you think about that? I always
thought that was pretty interesting. Do you

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find that? I think and artists
and musicians are spirit mediums, especially when

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it comes to writing songs and the
composing of the songs, because you're putting

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together a work of art, you're
putting together emotions and you're getting that from

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somewhere. Yes, it's some of
it is from you, but you're also

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putting out a message. Okay,
So yeah, I think a lot,

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if not all musicians and artists are
spirit mediums and high vibrational angels a lot,

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especially especially when you think of people
like Michael Jackson and Beyonce. I

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know, Beyonce isn't everybody's favorite for
some reason, but especially when you think

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of them, they are definitely high
vibrational angels. You know, when they

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just walk into a room and people
just go crazy. There's a reason for

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that. People like to call them
witches, which is a European word,

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but they're just high vibrational angels.
Well, I definitely feel like music itself

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also enhances vibrations. I've been playing
with different frequencies when meditating, and I

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can sense some of them really make
me feel, you know, something internally

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that you know, you can call
it like triggering chakras or changing your frequency,

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whatever you want to call it.
But some of them, I feel

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like nothing, and I'm like,
why are they selling this as a meditation

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song? I don't feel anything from
this, But but some of them,

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you know, it's really profound.
So so I guess you could say that

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music can be witch people, right, Yes, the word is so funny

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to me. Oh sorry, but
yeah it can be. It is,

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and I mean everything is witchcraft.
What we're doing right now, just speaking

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words is a spell, so I
mean so yeah, yeah, music is

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witchcraft because it makes you feel a
certain kind of way. So yeah,

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it affects you. So yeah,
you're right, You're right, it does

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it. You're totally right. It
can, yeah, you can. It's

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expression, it can evoke emotions totally. I never thought of it that way.

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Thank you for that. That's very
insightful. That's what I was actually

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hoping to get something like that.
That's cool. Thanks. I feel like

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Claire's going to create a song soon
that's going to be witched me hopefully.

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Hopefully it's going to help with my
meditation. That's what I'm looking for right

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now. I've only found one song
so far. It's really good for that.

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It's like really powerful. But I've
also heard people say that we don't

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just change our frequencies when we're doing
art. But I think it was doctor

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Pasolka who said that you actually kind
of touch into another dimension altogether when you're

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doing art, be it music or
painting, that you might actually just be

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touching another plane of existence. Do
you feel like that might be accurate third

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eye? Because when you're creating art, that is something that's the closest to

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your soul, because you don't just
create create art just to do it.

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That's not something that you're just going
to do. I'm just going to create

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art even though I don't want to
do it. You're doing it because you

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want to do it. So that
is something that you do when you're tapping

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into your third eye, because you
also get that vision to create whatever you're

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creating. That's interesting. So do
you think that if some of them were

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to keep exercising an artistic practice,
that's going to enhance their abilities with the

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third eye? Yes, she's nading. People can't hear the nodding, but

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she's nodding. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. How about you, Flair,

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do you feel like when you do
the art? And by the way,

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his name is Kevin, I just
call him Flair at like it's like

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a pet name thing. But any
who, Flair, do you feel like

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when you do the art you feel
like you're touching upon maybe another dimension that

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you might be enhancing your abilities to. Uh, well, I know that

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when inspiration hits, it's just like
a flow that you just don't stop.

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It's it's hard to explain. It's
like you are connected with something else and

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it is almost like look listening to
music that you like, like like like

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she's she said, it's very cool. But yeah, yeah, it's what

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was the question whether or not it
enhances your third eye abilities? You know,

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I've never I don't wouldn't even know
how to apply it that way.

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Actually I don't. I only know
how to apply it in channel through art,

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you know. I would like to
learn how to do it other ways.

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I just don't know how at this
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in. Maybe you have something to
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are because, like I said,
practice makes perfect. You're doing more of

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what you love. So when you
do that, you get closer to your

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soul. Okay, your soul would
never lead you astray. Yeah, So

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I actually wanted to touch on the
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know it's going back a little,
but you said you had some difficulties in

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your childhood because you were raised in
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of your spirituality, And actually I
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and I was raised to be Catholic, but I could feel that I was

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drawn towards what some people call more
of a New Age spirituality. Do you

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feel like the two can reconcile that
they're not necessarily in conflict. It sounds

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like, you know, when we
talk about angels and demons, you've already

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done that work. But I thought
maybe you could expound on that a little

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bit so people who are going through
this elsewhere in the community can understand they're

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not alone. They can have their
religion and their spirituality. Well, you

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can definitely have your religion and your
spirituality, but christ consciousness is where it

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comes from. Spirituality. It's nothing
but frequency. People have to realize they

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have to let go of these things, because that is the biggest problem is

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the ego. They don't realize that
all of these heads of these religions are

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They basically have the same stories,
they do the same things, and they're

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meant to guide you and lead you. You aren't meant to worship them and

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forget about yourself. You're meant to
learn from what they've been through. You're

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meant to learn from their stories instead
of putting them on a pedestal higher than

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yourself and making them a larger god
than you are. But to deal with

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the things, you know, when
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it's just in the DNA, and
some people just cannot let go of it

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easily because something that a lot of
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think that's crazy. A lot of
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so you know, their minds are
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go of it. So it's not
as easy for everyone to see what's really

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real. So at that point,
you just, you know, you have

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to believe in yourself. You don't
have to worry about what they think about

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you. You don't have to worry
about explaining yourself to them, because I

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mean, it's not worth your time. Your journey is not for them to

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believe you. It's for something else. It's for your own enlightenment. And

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for those that do believe you,
that's fine, But you don't have to

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worry about the people that don't.
They have things that they have to let

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go of, and we just have
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I feel like that's currently a conundrum
for some people when it comes to dealing

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with the phenomenon you know, which
which of course encompasses spirituality, and it

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encompasses a lot of other issues.
It seems that the phenomenon is connected to

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the paranormal in general, including you
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and orbs and all of it seems
to be somewhat connected. So people are

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currently trying to reconcile the idea of
putting aside the religious stuff and accept the

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you know, the world may be
different than they thought, the reality may

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be different than they thought. And
I've actually, you know, run into

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some really interesting things while doing meditation
that I found out other people have also

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run into. And one of them
is the term God source. Have you

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heard of that before? Yeah,
I've heard of a lot of them.

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you get from that. Sounds like
just the energy frequence that your own.

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Sounds like a divine gateway. And
I'm just describing what it sounds like.

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Sounds like information continuously come again all
the way from the crown. I mean,

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it sounds like you're very tuned in
God source. That's what that sounds

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like to me. That's really interesting
because basically, you know, I saw

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it as a big ball of energy. That's how it was shown to me.

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And then it was explained to me
that it was not God. It

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is just like almost like a connector
to God. You know, it's like

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a nude that connects to God.
But it's my Yeah, it's like my

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personal one that I was being shown, which was so interesting. So yeah,

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but then I looked it up after
I had this experience in my meditation

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and they told me, I mean, I'm sorry. I looked at it

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and I saw the other people had
had used that term God source. It

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was near to me, so that's
why I was interested to see what your

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perspective on that was. So yeah, it's not something that I use all

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the time. I just usually say
spirit Creator in my spirituality. It is

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all arn a little worried Supreme Creator, the almighty Supreme. We believe that,

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you know, we don't believe that
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This woman and man, divinity,
feminine and masculine energy. That's what

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we believe. But yeah, I
agree with you when we get in that

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state of meditation and we tap into
the gostels. You're just tapping into your

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crown chakra and all the chakras above
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your heart as well. It's just
what you're tapping into. Yeah, I've

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had it easier time actually feeling the
energy from the heart to I guess the

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gut, right, those chakras.
But I was talking to Quantum, which

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from Quantum which Cafe about like trying
to access the third eye and how to

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do that, And it was really
interesting because her advice was basically to like

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amplify with quartz, right, and
she was saying, you should do it

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from behind and go through with quartz, try to like make it like a

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beacon. Have you listened to what
Gary Nolan has said about the brain?

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And there's a reason I asked that
because because she was it was about the

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intuitive part of the brain, which
is where Priscilla was. Priscilla was mentioning

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like we should amplify from there to
the penial gland, right. So it's

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like there's an interesting parallel between the
actual biological aspects of our brains and the

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spiritual It's really yeah, everything just
ties in together the same for me.

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The more that I learned about it, everything just goes together. Mm hmm.

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It's really just crazy how everything just
goes together. Yeah. Even you've

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got the eye of Horus on your
and that's just that's the pinial gland.

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You know, my name, I'm
surprised that you guys didn't know. My

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name is an Egyptian god and it's
my birth name, the god of the

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morning Sun. It means the beautiful
rising of the sun. But it's the

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guy of the morning Sun, the
rising Sun. Awesome, it's sort of

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a portriotous good omen. Yes,
the scar of Beetle, Yeah, it

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is. Can I ask you a
question, Okay, what are the numbers?

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I don't know much about. Is
it numerology? I don't know much

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about that. Oh yeah, the
numbers are numerology. That is something really

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big for me because kind of it
was a very big part of my spiritual

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awakening, being the numbers, especially
eleven eleven. I remember when I first

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started going through it, you know, I thought I was losing my mind.

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It's so funny. I thought I
was losing my mind because every time

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I would look at the clock,
it would be eleven eleven, and my

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ears would ring so loud and I
was going crazy. It was funny.

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But the numbers, yes, eleven, eleven is a really big spiritual awakening

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number. Angels they communicate in different
ways, but they you know, most

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people are not really paying attention to
their gifts. You know, most people,

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you know, they would think clear
audience is probably something's wrong with them

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or something. Probably most people will
probably think that. But when you think

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about the average person, they aren't
paying attention to you know, the natural

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spiritual gifts that most of us already
have. But you know, when you

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keep seeing a number over and over, you're gonna say, wait, what

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what is? You know, you're
going to look it up because you don't

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know what's going on. But that
is their favorite way to communicate. It's

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with the angel numbers. And I'm
sure you see them because that's why you

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ask. Probably, Well, that's
because I have a student. I work

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with special needs kids and one of
them diagnosed with autism, and he writes

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numbers, just numbers all over the
place, and yeah, I need to

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pay attention and see what these numbers
are. Now he writes numbers all over

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the place, Yeah, just numbers. Something to go along with that with

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disorders, I think they're very highly
spiritual beings as well. I can't really

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explain it, but I've learned some
things when it comes to my ancestor spirituality.

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When i've and it's not just mine, you know, I see a

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pattern in all of these things when
it comes to theirs as well. They

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have names for these things, and
you know, it's for a reason.

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Even something that I found out,
I was like wow when I found this

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out. Tribes, mostly in Africa, they think of, you know,

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like people that are lesbian gay trends. They think of them as like highly

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spiritual beings, spirit mediums. That's
the first thing they think of. They

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don't think of, you know,
oh boy girl. No, they think

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of you know, oh this person
is divine basically because they know both halves

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in a sense, they're in both
worlds. Yeah, yeah, what you're

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saying, Yeah, so what a
too? I ask a question related to

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the I don't know if y'all we're
aware that the Archives of the Impossible is

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happening right now. Leslie King was
talking on a webinar last night from the

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Archives of the Impossible about mediumship,
and I wanted to ask if you had

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any familiarity with ectoplasm, because she
said that was something that interested her in

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working with mediums, that it was
something that she physically saw while working with

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a medium who's been studying this for
decades. If that was something that you

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were aware of used, et cetera. I was gonna say, I'll be

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honest, I don't know what that
is. Like I told you, I'm

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not very familiar with the names of
things, and I'll bet you it's possible

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that I've seen it before, but
I don't know what that is. What

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is it? Is it like a
substance? Yes, So apparently she was

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describing it as something that comes out
of the medium's body and may transform into

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a spirit when the medium is channeling
a spiritual form. So it's almost like

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it can be used to mirror something
that's being channeled or make a picture of

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it, so to speak. Almost. And then she was saying also that

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it's a very sensitive thing and the
lights have to be kept off because if

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a light was turned on, it
would make the ectoplasm rush back into the

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medium's body and could be damaging.
It's really interesting. So I will say

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though that the term itself the first
time I heard that I'm pretty sure was

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Ghostbusters. So I'm not sure that
that's the best best term to use.

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It's probably better to come up with
another term for it. And actually scientists

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nowadays have a different word that I
like that has a lot to do with

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the energies in the body, called
the biofield. So I guess I'm just

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asking if you're familiar with that idea
of a physical element in addition to a

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spiritual element when you're doing your work. Not that exactly. No, I

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can't say that I've seen that exactly. I've seen a lot of different things.

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I've been through a lot of a
few different things myself when it comes

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to energy. But ecoplasm, no, I've never seen that. I've never

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come in contact with that. I
also am learning how to do reiki because

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I know how to do reiki on
myself when it comes to my spiritual gifts.

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But you know, I just have
to get startified and learned the things

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you know to do it. But
ecto pleasant, No, I mean it

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sounds interesting, like I would like
to see that. Of all the things

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that I've seen, I would like
to see that. This sounds really cool.

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I've seen something, but not ectoplasm. Yeah, so I don't know.

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I was just curious that one.
I think most mediums probably don't see

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that either, to be honest,
but I was curious if you had,

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because it was something that this particular
person used so much. But you know,

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one thing I've definitely found interesting is
that everyone has different gifts for accessing

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these abilities, right, they have
different ways of doing it. I think

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I'm more what they call clear sentient
rather than being able to hear things.

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But since you do hear things in
another interesting point to make is that there's

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been talk about with the UAP phenomenon
that there's like a sound that's I think

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it's called infrasound. This is a
sound similar to what you would hear before

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on earthquake that people sometimes can hear. Very few people can hear, and

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that might be what some of the
people like yourself or some of the other

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people who have said they heard UAPs
before they came or picking up. Also,

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most people can't hear it. Yeah, a lot of people aren't.

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It's clear audience. I can't say
that I've heard it exactly because again I

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don't know what I don't know what
that is, but I mean it's possible

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that I've heard it. I've heard
a lot of crazy stuff and a lot

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of my clear audience. You know, I've learned that a lot of it

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is exaggerated and kind of comical when
it comes to pointing to things that happen

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in my life and world events.
Especially, my guys are very comical when

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they explain stuff to me. I
guess they just say, you know,

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why not just make it fun.
But yeah, that's important. You gotta

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be fun. Yeah, yeah,
to ask your question, so I get

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something called sleep paralysis. Do you
are you familiar with that? Like do

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you feel like something on your chest? Yeah, when you wake up and

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you can't move sometimes a lot of
times you can't see. And how how

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do you people in your field explain
that? Or sir, I want to

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scare you, Okay, go ahead, sweet paralysis really because I've experienced it

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before when I was kind of in
the early stages of my awakening. It's

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really like a low vibrational being that
is trying to attack your dreams. Do

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you have dreams? I do?
Yeahs mm hmmm, very okay, but

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yeah, just you have a very
strong spirit. Just just assert your boundaries.

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Whatever height beings you pray too,
it doesn't matter. They'll come to

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your rescue. Even if you just
believe even yourself as a higher being,

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think of the highest part of yourself
to get it away, because they really

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just want to torture you. I
kind of like to think of them as

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the thing like right when you're about
to and most people don't make it to

407
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this place because they think, you
know, sleeparalysis is just normal. It's

408
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:28.360
just something that I have to deal
with. But most of the time when

409
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:32.119
those beings come, it's like it's
right before you're about to make a big

410
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:44.639
leap into something. But yeah,
yeah, it's not something good. I'm

411
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.199
not gonna lie like it's something good, and it's not just a disorder.

412
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:55.199
It's an energy that's around causing it
seems like a lot of abductees get it

413
00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:00.800
so, you know, I think
it's interesting. You said it seems like

414
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:08.440
a lot of get it so,
but sleep paralysis m hm, oh yeah,

415
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:16.760
yeah, yep, yeah, it
seems like it seems I was gonna

416
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:21.960
say, it seems to be like
a control mechanism, you know, either

417
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:28.519
from the you know, possible extra
terrestrial or whatever we want to call them.

418
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.719
It's hard to call them that sometimes, but others it's hard to say

419
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:38.119
if it's them controlling or if it's
another kind of entity controlling, which honestly

420
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:42.719
sounds a little bit like a suck
of us or an ink of us.

421
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.320
Is that what that is? This? I mean, I wasn't gonna say

422
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.119
the name, but I mean you
said it. That's what it is.

423
00:42:50.800 --> 00:43:00.480
That's what it is. But when
I think of love, viberational beings are

424
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:05.559
more powerful than we are. But
when you think about the normal person when

425
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.840
they have sleep paralysis, you know
they're gonna freeze because they don't know what

426
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:15.800
the heck is going on. And
then there are some that can feel the

427
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.920
presence and they're gonna freeze as well
because they don't know what's going on and

428
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:28.079
they're scared. So when it comes
to these beings, the best thing for

429
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:34.559
you to know is that you're more
powerful than it. And the reason that

430
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:39.639
it's there at that moment is trying
to take that little bit of courage that

431
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:44.519
you need, that that little inch, and you know, just take you

432
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:50.880
all the way back down and make
you feel powerless. But yes, sleep

433
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:57.679
paralysis, I don't get it anymore. Something else that can help with it

434
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:05.960
is not sleeping on your back,
that's the big thing. Sleeping with crystals

435
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:08.960
underneath your pillow. That is something
that I do every night. I sleep

436
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:15.440
with amethyst and my piece la.
I didn't need my pillow. It really

437
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:20.559
helps the activity in my third eye. I'm doing it. I'm going to

438
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:25.360
do it. Yeah. I've actually
heard that a lot lately, and the

439
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:30.960
people playing like the quartz. Actually
I hold quarts a lot when I do

440
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.599
dojo, so that's why I have
a quartz. But having a quartz above

441
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:43.039
their head and stuff while they're sleeping
nightmares. I hear about that. Okay,

442
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.400
I'm going to do it. Yeah, we got one right here.

443
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.559
We keep one right the computer area, so I'm like, why don't I

444
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:54.360
keep one next to me you know
when I sleep? Yeah, Clennite Silenite

445
00:44:54.440 --> 00:45:06.679
is one of my favorites too,
angel cry mhm selen night. Yeah,

446
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:17.639
everyone's safe, h Sometimes I am. Most of the energies that I work

447
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:22.159
with are water beans, so I've
noticed that. You know, I don't

448
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:29.679
really have to barn much stage.
I use Brits to cleanse my area and

449
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:36.719
crystals cool, so I don't really
have to barn much stage. So you

450
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:43.519
have a you have an altar and
or what? How? Yeah? Mm

451
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.440
hmm, I do what were you
gonna ask? You say? How?

452
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.519
Oh? I was wondering. I
don't know. I'm just I just like

453
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.280
this kind of stuff. I think
it's really interesting, that's all. Yeah.

454
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:01.039
Alterns. You know, when you
think of Okay, when you think

455
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:06.000
of guys, just kind of think
of them. There are ancestors. They

456
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.679
came before us. They did these
wonderful things you know that we read about,

457
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.400
and an alter is just something honoring
them. You know, you think

458
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.920
about when you put on an altar, you think about the best things that

459
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:23.199
they did and you put it on
that altar. So when you honor those

460
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:28.119
things that they did, you're honoring
that part of yourself as well. So

461
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:34.119
the more you spend time with it, the more you're spending time with yourself

462
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:44.760
and loving yourself. And that's really
what spirituality is through and through knowing yourself.

463
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:51.320
So I have a question that goes
into spiritual aspect a little bit more.

464
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:57.239
I have previously spoken to a medium, but not on the dojo,

465
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:04.880
and I was told about out some
of my past life experiences a little bit

466
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:09.960
stuff that I did not know and
stuff that made sense, but it was

467
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.239
interesting. I was just wondering with
what your thoughts were on past lives.

468
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:24.960
Past lives. I've seen a lot
of mine. I think when we see

469
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.960
you know, because when it comes
to past lives, we all have to

470
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:37.000
learn a listen in these past lives
and believe it or not, it's crazy

471
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.519
as some of the things are that
happen in our lives. Some of these

472
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:45.800
things were planned. Even some of
the people that we know. All of

473
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.119
the people that we know, we're
planned for us to meet and go through

474
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.639
certain things. And when we peek
into our past lives, there's something to

475
00:47:54.760 --> 00:48:01.519
learn from it, always that you
can apply to this life, something that

476
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:10.840
can help guide you. Like me, I've had visions of myself laying in

477
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:17.400
sand and like looking up at the
at the sky and they were like stars,

478
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:25.000
like crazy stars, like nothing like
what the sky looks like today.

479
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:35.360
I had some crazy past life experiences
and like I just said, you just

480
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:40.119
have to think about think about what
what was told to you. I know

481
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.760
you said she told you about them. Think about the subject that she kind

482
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.880
of spent time on, and that's
something that you can apply to your life.

483
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:54.519
I don't think past lives are anything
crazy at all. And I think

484
00:48:54.519 --> 00:49:01.559
it's something great that people need to
tap into because it helps them. It's

485
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:06.159
going to help them get through whatever
it is they're going through in their life

486
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:13.519
at that moment. Now, do
you think that we may not always have

487
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:21.960
our past life on Earth? Yes, most definitely. All of our ancestors

488
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:28.960
and guys they don't come from Earth. Yeah, so yes, that's kind

489
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:34.119
of what I was curious about.
And and the ancestors and guides, do

490
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:38.519
you think that any of them could
possibly be interdimensional or do you think that

491
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:46.480
they are from like like their spirits
or like how how would you describe them

492
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:54.800
other than you know them having an
ancestral connection. Yes, most definitely interdimensional.

493
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:07.239
They are. There are so many
different angels out there because like I

494
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:15.559
said, we are angels ourselves,
and I feel and I kind of hate

495
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.679
to get to what I feel because
I feel so many different things because there

496
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:23.599
are so many different theories and none
of them just add up enough to me,

497
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:30.000
like Okay, it's kind of like
okay, but then then but then

498
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:36.119
this, but I feel like us
on Earth, this is honestly, to

499
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:42.800
be honest, I feel like this
is like this is nothing compared to where

500
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:52.039
we're going when we transcend this place. So yeah, there are so many

501
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:58.840
different beings and so many to it. So yeah, to your question,

502
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:09.039
yes, there's way too many.
Okay, And I guess I wanted I

503
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:14.639
know we're almost out of time,
but I guess I wanted to ask how

504
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.519
you think, hm, you know, with people trying to deal with the

505
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:27.239
phenomenon and UAPs, how you think
your gifts connect to that UAP issue,

506
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:32.719
because you know, obviously that's one
of the things that I'm really interested in,

507
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:45.159
uh, the UAP phenomenon or UFOs
if you prefer so. I know

508
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:50.000
you called it an issue, but
really and truly, I feel it's only

509
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:55.199
an issue because of like I feel
like y'all can kind of feel like my

510
00:51:55.239 --> 00:52:04.079
stubtic of this whole entire conversation people
that it's not aware of the things that

511
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:09.199
are around us, Like you're never
alone. It's so funny to me as

512
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.960
a medium, there are people actually
out here that think they are alone for

513
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:21.519
like a minute, and you are
never alone. There is always some other

514
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:28.559
energy around you because you are stacked
on many different dimensions. But when it

515
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.760
comes to an issue, I feel
like, you know, like I said,

516
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.519
there are many different types of angels. I feel like there are certain

517
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:40.159
angels that are just coming here watching
us, and I bet you there are

518
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:46.880
some that laugh, you know,
at the people that are wondering what they

519
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:53.760
are and think it's silly. So
yeah, when it comes to that,

520
00:52:53.920 --> 00:53:00.599
I feel like people should just open
their eyes a little bit more. But

521
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:02.800
at the same time, the price
they will come with that, people are

522
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:09.280
going to realize so many other different
vibes and there are some people out here,

523
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:17.239
bless their hearts, they're probably gonna
lose their mind. So yeah,

524
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:24.119
people, people really just need to
pay attention more. We are more than

525
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:32.039
what we think we are. Yeah, that definitely seems to be something I've

526
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:37.320
heard a few times that there's a
lot like we don't even fully understand ourselves

527
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:44.679
at this point. Like I think
we only just mapped the human DNA,

528
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:51.599
what was it like within the last
decade, right, We just finally kind

529
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:55.719
of and we still don't know everything
about that. We certainly don't know everything

530
00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:00.880
about our own brains, you know
not, And that's not even touching on

531
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:06.119
we don't even know everything about our
own planet. Like we haven't even seen

532
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:10.480
all or mapped all of the oceans
like, we still don't know everything.

533
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:19.280
We certainly don't know that much beyond
our galaxy. So there's just a ton

534
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:24.280
that we have to figure out still, like right like, just like you

535
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:29.599
just said, like what are we
even doing? Think about what we don't

536
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:37.639
know? And then I think about
all the people out here fighting because of

537
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:43.760
what they think is just you know, the absolute truth. Like you you've

538
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:49.559
only been here for so many years
and you're reading a book that you know,

539
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:52.960
you don't have proof that it was
written at the beginning of time.

540
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.760
So you know, if you do
a little research, there's so many other

541
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:08.119
different books that have similar the things
and can compare timelines. So and I

542
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:14.920
speak about this so profoundly because religion
is the main thing that controls most people.

543
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:23.719
Gotta let it go. That is
the main part that people just have

544
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:30.199
to let it go, because if
you can't realize that you don't know everything,

545
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:42.159
you'll never really know yourself. So, Kevin, do you have any

546
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:50.079
final questions for tonight? No,
no, no, I just wanted to

547
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.760
say thank you. I appreciate your
insights. That was a great conversation.

548
00:55:54.199 --> 00:56:00.519
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, I definitely appreciate that you came.

549
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:06.320
Please let everyone know where they can
find you on you know, on Twitter,

550
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.519
et cetera, on SoundCloud. We
were listening to your song by the

551
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:15.159
way. We think you have a
great voice. Yes, yes, yeah,

552
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:21.280
you're a fantastic Thank you so much. That is something that I'm going

553
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.880
to be getting more into. Like
I said, I took a break to

554
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:30.679
kind of learn more about what my
ancestors did because they were calling me,

555
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:39.119
giving me tea and things like that. So anybody can find me on social

556
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:46.360
media. I am the Lady Capra
everywhere. So that is it the Lady

557
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:52.159
Capra. Okay, and is there
any final messages that you would just want

558
00:56:52.199 --> 00:57:02.800
to feel like you need to send
out before we closed for today? People,

559
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.400
And I hate to say the word
need, but it is something that

560
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:15.599
people need to do desperately. Stop
worrying about what anybody else is doing,

561
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:22.199
and love yourself first, because if
you're worrying about what anybody else is doing,

562
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:29.880
especially when it comes to them,
worrying about what you're doing, because

563
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:35.360
that's what most people are doing these
days, you are not doing the right

564
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.400
thing. So love yourself. It
is not selfish to put yourself first.

565
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:47.639
And that is all I have to
say. Okay, I always say it's

566
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:51.639
you know, if you don't love
yourself, you can't love other people right

567
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:58.239
because you won't know how to love
you right. Nope, Kevin, can

568
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.639
you please let people know where we
come from? I you also, m

569
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:07.840
hm. You can find me on
Twitter. I am hilarious Kevin at Hilarious

570
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.599
Kevin at Twitter. I'm on Instagram, but my link tree is just on

571
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:16.119
Twitter. It's easier just to go
there. Okay, and calling all beings

572
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:21.480
also, Okay, Well, thank
you both for coming in tonight. I'm

573
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:27.840
gonna go ahead and say goodbye to
everybody. This was Deb from Deb's Dot

574
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:32.079
a dojo, part of the collin
Al Beings podcast network. You can find

575
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:39.800
me on Instagram, the LinkedIn,
Twitter, Facebook, and on YouTube with

576
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:45.480
callin All Beings, Bye everybody.
To you later.

