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You're listening to the downbeat on ninety
seven to one. The Freak did a

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local barbecue war happening and over in
Fort Worth of a first tan account of

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someone who's at the messy game last
night as well, and much more.

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But uh, let's go ahead and
do right now Sports at seven, because

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the MAVs do do the bed last
night and now the Sports at seven.

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It's kind of a wild NBA night
last night. Michael had some more on

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that in just a second, but
first let's do the MAVs portion of this

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is they got beat one nineteen to
one, ten, and yes it's a

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kind of a nine point game,
and it was really double digit trailing for

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a lot of this game. So
that's ah, it was not a good

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one last night. I don't know
how much you guys got to catch the

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game, but I watched most of
it. I did keep switching over to

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the Minnesota game because Karl Anthony Towns
was going nuts. And I do want

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to talk about the NBA as a
whole on the moment. Yeah, I

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don't know. I mean, Celtics
just better team even without yeah Chris STAPs.

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It kept reminding myself the Celtics were
one of the best teams in the

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league. I think as it was
all going down, and I'm like,

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yeah, I think they're the best, right, Uh, maybe they're thirty

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four and ten. Yeah, Mavericks
twenty four to nineteen. It's it's we're

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just like Luca had thirty three,
but it felt like he was working for

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every bit of it. He takes
a beating, he does take a beating,

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and he also had to go and
get eighteen rebounds for the team last

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night too. Kyrie had twenty three, and it felt like he was having

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to earn everything. And they're,
you know, Boston's they said they're a

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really good team. Last night.
The Mats got a lot from Tim Hardaway

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Junior, which is good, except
he's not like a great defender. And

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if you were getting any offense out
of the Grant Williams or Derreck Jones,

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then you could kind of, you
know, feel like you're playing a little

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bit better team defense. But they're
just not getting much out of those guys.

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Yeah, the inconsistency across the board, across their roster, aside from

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from uh, Luca and Kyrie,
that's why they don't win consistently, because

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not only do you have to have
Luca and Kyrie show up and put up,

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you know, fairly decent numbers.
Man, they got to have a

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guy that is kind of consistent with
them, and they don't have that third

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that night and night out you can
count on to give you nineteen. They

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just don't. Tim Hardaway disappears and
then it'll streak, and then he'll disappear.

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You looked at that that Celtics lineup, and they pointed this out.

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I don't know if you guys saw
this graphic. Later in the game,

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they showed their starting five. I
mean, the the thick ass puction you

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get from every dude in that starting
five, the contributions that you get.

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You don't put up those kind of
season numbers being inconsistent. Mavericks don't have

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that. They got Luca and Kyrie, and dudes that might show up might

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not, and god forbid if Luca
or Kyrie have a rough night. Yeah,

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it's the thing. It's a flawed
team, man, it is flawed,

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and the problem is mainly on defense
for the most harm. Buttu're right,

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if Luca and Kyrie are not giving
you thirty plus every single night,

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you're kind of like, Okay,
who else is gonna do it, and

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they get a little help from Tim
last night, but no one else said

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Grant Williams and he's did a big
interview. He's hurt, he's playing through

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it. Yeah, and you get
healthy then who knows. You have production

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from Josh Green early. But yeah, middle of that second quarter, the

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game was over those guys. Boston
gets a fourteen point lead. That's that's

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the thing. They are so consistent
even without KP. They got production from

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everybody. Everybody that they needed to
produce. They did. The Mavericks just

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don't even Al Horford's out there on
the elbow knocking down threes. Yahnk.

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He has been for our whole lives. So it's crazy. Yeah, I

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mean they're just a really good team. They were still shorthanded, and I'm

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pretty sure Celtics were on the back
half of back to back. Yeah,

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they didn't have KP. Yeah it's
not either, yeah, right, and

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they got off to a slow start, so the maps were good early.

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I mean, males are like hit
threes, win, miss threes, lose,

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yeah, miss, it's it's not
get stops, Like, it's just

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not gonna be that yeah, because
they're not They're not gonna suddenly have that

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ability. Really, I mean,
they can have good nights defensively, and

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since Christmas, they're not a bad
defensive team when you talk about like points

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per possession on defense and everything.
But yeah, if they hit threes,

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they win. If they get over
like fifteen threes, they win almost every

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game. And they were I mean
I think that thirteen or fourteen yesterday they

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weren't. It wasn't nightmare. But
that's it. Yea. They get shooters,

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the ball a hook it. If
it goes in, the MAVs win,

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then it's too volatile of a thing
to rely on for winning in the

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postseason. True, you know,
yeah, they missed the MAVs. I'm

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sure you guys saw this too.
So many layups and shots right at the

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rim. Oh yeah, but Luca
missed a but yep, lots lots of

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sad bunnies floating off the front of
the rim. Phoenix Tomorrow night rivalry week,

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so it could be fun. Phoenix
is I think fifth of the West.

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The MAVs are out of the top
six in the West. But all

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it takes is one or two wins
and then you're back into You know,

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it's weird because the West is like
still kind of they're like Minnesota, Oklahoma

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City, Minnesota second Oklahoma City.
Denver is not as dominant as they were

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last year. The Clippers might be
the team to watch because they're all gelling

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right now and they will do they'll
make trades and try whatever. And I

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think that's where you get to average. Gonna have to do something. You're

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gonna have to add to this otherwise
it's just not gonna be enough to even

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talk about being competitive with those top
teams. And how much are you willing

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to give up? You don't have
a lot of draft inventory. These are

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some out who's available and things like
that. Like, dude, it's not

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like Dorian Phitty Smith has been thrown
out there getting him back, which would

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be great, but not at the
price the Nets are wanting you to give.

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So I don't know how much you're
gonna be able to help this thing.

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Like I think he would help a
lot. Oh, Luca loves him.

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Yeah, he's defense. Well,
imagine him starting and bring Josh Green

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off the bench. You have to
give up Josh Green in that deal too,

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right, Yeah, which you know. So I was watching a bunch

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of NBA last night actually because there
was Twitter was blowing up and there's strange

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things afoot. So yesterday was the
eighteenth anniversary of Kobe Bryant's eighty one point

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game, and there was some weird
stuff that happened in the NBA, and

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it'll lead to I guess, part
of a different discussion. But Joel Embiid

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scored seventy points yesterday. That dude
is out of his brain right now.

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He's averaging forty for the month.
He averaged forty all of January or all

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of last month. He is,
yeah, seventy and then bad games points

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wise, thirty three, thirty six, but forty one, forty one.

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He scored fifty one a few days
ago, fifty last month. I mean

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he's just hanging massive numbers. He
scored seventy last night. Was he doing

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this? Just dominates dude? Eighteen
rebounds due, Yeah, it gets a

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lot of free throws. He sure
shot twenty one of twenty three from the

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line, but he got no accident
to average forty since the beginning of December.

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Yeah, him and Luke Ara like
some of them, the sure thing

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thirty plus point guys. Yeah,
and then the other one, Karl Anthony

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Towns from Minnesota was lighting up,
you end up scoring sixty two last night,

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So I kind of do you think
that they have this discuss. I

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mean, probably not Embiid, but
maybe Karl Anthony Towns and they realize what

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day it is. It's Kobe eighty
one day, and it would be kind

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of a fun thing that I didn't
really tell your coaches and be like,

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all right, today's the day one
of us goes for it. And it

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probably not eighty one, but you
go for fifty. Like time to go

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individual effort. Because Anthony Edwards,
the other leading scorer for Minnesota, basically

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didn't shoot the ball in the first
half and Karl Anthony Towns shot everything.

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I almost just picture them rock paper
scissoring before the game, like, all

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right, whose night is it?
You know who's going for this tonight.

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I know those guys pay attention to
stats and things like that during the games,

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so yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. I think it's the support where

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they think about those things the most, too, like basketball, like,

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yes, a tribute to Kobe or
something like that. Screw tonight. So

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here's audio real quick. Minnesota was
playing Charlotte and Karl Anthony Towns had forty

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four at halftime. So every you
know, that's why I switched over and

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missed some of the mass games,
so I wanted to see the end of

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that. And boy, they just
kept handing him the ball and hugging it.

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And Minnesota, by the way,
blew an eighteen point lead in the

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fourth quarter and lost the game.
Oh wow, Yes, because when he

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dropped sixty two and they lost and
they lost him comeback fashion, and their

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coach is like irresponsible, He called
it, I think because he's like,

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look, you gotta play defense,
not just try to find this guy and

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have him keep hucking it. But
anyway, he made his Uh. Karl

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Anthony Towns made his eight three point
right at the end of the first half,

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and the Charlotte Hornets announcer was all
worked up. That's the Hornets announcer.

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The Hornets announcer too, that's the
opposing announcer. Was he scared?

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Was he calling a three? Or
did he see a ghost? Howard Dean,

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Charlotte Hornetson anytime Carling any Town has
comes up, I can't help but

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think of the voice changing situation.
Guys heard of that? No, and

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you know, hey, I'm not
saying anything but he does change his voice

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drastically depending on where he's talking.
So here's just the thing. This is

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him. The first half is him
doing a postgame on court interview where it's

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you know, in full basketball mode, and then the second half is him

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as part of like a podcast type
thing. So get him, So get

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him? Yes, uh, well, good practice. Just go get him.

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I really don't know another way to
explain, and just take the shots

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being super aggressive, altra aggressive,
and be willing to make a mistake in

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the aggression. Right, okay,
pretty normal? Yeah, all right,

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And this was him in a podcast
setting crazy because after all that, they

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took him off the court to put
him even locker. So I was like,

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whoa. I mean, hey,
you can have your game day voice

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and your uh your chill voice,
chill voice. Huh. I just can't.

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I hate it because I love Carl. Town's really good and he is

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probably with Dirk in the argument of
best shooting big man of all time and

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something passed. I'm gonna be honest, that's not what I expected to hear.

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Really know, what I expected to
hear is, you know, media

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voice. I'm going to speak very
neutral, but when I'm comfortable with my

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friends. Oh, like, play
it up a little bit, you know,

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talk like you would around people that
you're close to. I didn't expect,

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Hi, guys, it's me.
I don't know Krusty the clown or

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after all that they took him off
the court to put him even closer locker.

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I mean, you went from measured
media man to rupe Paul. Well

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you practice, go get him,
Go get him. It's different, way

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different. Sixty two points, big
night for Crawl Anthony Town, despite the

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crumbling loss to the Charlotte Hornet.
The disgusting performance of immature playing. Yeah,

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yeah, exactly. The coach discussed, and he basically was mad.

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He was kind of saying that without
exactly saying, Okay, you guys are

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just trying to get him to score
what fifty sixties the game? Yeah,

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you guys cause us a game.
I hope that was worth it for you

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because we just lost. Yeah.
Fishes, fishes, God, that's wild.

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Okay, Well that is some basketball
stuff. Kind to catch you up

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on basketball swears. Let's switch gears
wrong. How about a zesty barbecue war

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here in the Metroplex. I think
I saw this song like Dallas, Dallas,

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Texas TV. Yeah, well,
it's he's kind of all over the

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place. I saw it in the
Forward Star Telegram or the Dallas Morning News.

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It should probably be. Yeah,
I saw in the Telegram. Mm

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hmm. Panther City Barbecue is the
place. They had an Instagram post on

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Sunday it said, over the past
three weeks, we discovered a good old

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fashioned crime ring which involves another local
Fort Worth business slash restaurant owner. And

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in the post, I don't know
if I've seen the post, get pictures

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of a white van. It's parked
and the Telegram's naming the diner, but

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does sound like they might know,
but they said they're not naming it because

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charges have not been filed. The
same white van was seen leaving the scene

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of a theft in Arlington back in
December. The owner of Panther City Barbecue,

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Chris mag Magalon Magalaniso's because then we
would know magillanis Magalanis. He shared

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security footage of the van driving near
his restaurant days before some of the smokers

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were stolen, and then police trace
the stolen smokers to a field near the

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diner through trackers that were attached to
the smokers. Yes, those ain't cheap

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man smokers. Yeah, like the
big industrial ones. A lot of them

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are custom made for your specs.
They ain't cheap. I thought you meant

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the trackers cheap too, not super
cheap. I mean you just get one

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of those little you know, eh
tags or whatever, and you get the

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one fargo that he put under the
car with a one button. No,

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that's all. That's all it had, the one like a little lever.

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How much sweaty breaking Bad would get
when Walt would have to go put the

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GPS on gusses underneath gusses. Yeah, you know, trying not to be

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seen at the chicken restaurant. We've
advanced past the shoe box sized transponder.

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You just have like a little disc, kind of like the little plastic donut

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from Doo Dooo Kangaroo. They're about
that size, tiny edible disc. You

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should get Malcolm a bunch of tracking
discs for his birthday this year, the

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smallest ones available, and paint him
up like a glazed donuts. That's showing

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that it's inside a boy a better
way to say that. Yeah, the

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Magalon is the Panther City Barbecue said
he saw the van numerous times outside the

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dinery. He tracked it to a
property in South fort Worth and he observed

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the driver unloading three oven ranges,
so he caught him. Police confiscated the

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van on Saturday because he reported seeing
it outside the diner. The diner owner

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told this the Telegram yesterday that he
had no knowledge of the theft. He

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said, people come in and out
of his diner all the time, and

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it's not his job whether their thieves
are carrying stolen property. It's not his

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job to check to see if their
thieves or their carrying stolen property. That's

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kind of fair, Yeah, because
anyone could come in my place. It's

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I don't do a background check on
every person that comes to my restaurant.

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Well, you did just say that
they found one of the smokers in a

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field behind the restaurant. Explain that. Yeah, he's threatened. Yeah,

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but he's threatening to sue Panther City
Barbecue over their post over alleging that he

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stole their equipment. Yeah. Now
he hasn't said the name of them,

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probably on purpose because he's probably trying
to figure out if I'm going to press

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charges or not. But the white
van is an independent it's not owned by

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the guy who owns the diner doesn't
sound like it, okay, but it's

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consistently at that diner, at that
diner. Magalanas said he has hours of

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surveillance footage connecting the diner to the
thefts. He has turned it over to

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the police, and police and letting
them do the investigators love the idea of

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amateurs loots conducting surveillance on their own
and following a vehicle that you put your

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little Amazon tracker on. Exciting.
It is a little exciting. Also on

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Kevin's car and track him barbecue home. They they they've always considered themselves a

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family, local barbecue. All rest
the local barbecue. The local barbecue considers

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themselves the local barbecue community. They're
connected. So who let me talk out

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your accusations? Now, who did
it? I'm not gonna I'm gonna play

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this game with you. I'd like
to clear the name of Travis him.

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How can you do that? Yeah, you can't do that. It's best

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not to say any time time.
My guess is this isn't somebody from that

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connected barbecue community. This is probably
an outlier, right, you know,

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so someone though this is the Hurtado
bandits. I don't think there areta bandits,

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the wild family of barbecue. There's
out of barbecue bands. Uh,

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boy, have you put something that's
worth ten g's or twenty g's or whatever.

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These smokers are out back. You
gotta think that thing's chained up,

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and I guess they cut to the
chain. So do most barbecue places have

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uh because they're outside? I mean
do they have a little shed that they've

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built a security shed? That's usually
how it looks. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, like the one in Deep
element Pecan Lodge. I mean you can

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see them, but they're kind of
contained. It would be really difficult to

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steal those without, you know,
raising some type of suspicion. There's no

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way this is the hard eight hijackers
right here we go. All right,

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let the alliteration comedy begin, because
it's good. It's better that way.

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What else do you get? Uh, the Cooper's capers. Okay, barbecue.

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Now they need to get the Dickies
detectives on this, like hold on

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national chain here, less stuff.
We have the resources to do the proper

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s advan. It's kind of like
bringing in the FBI, you know,

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Dickies. Go ahead, Mikey.
I've been working on a few but nothing's

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ready. This water ain't boiling us
slow bo but already used sleuths. I

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bet okay, And I don't know
if it's sort of like the beer community,

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you know, because you know,
our Rollertown friends s Ben Skin are

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always saying how the beer community supports
itself, and there is definitely some level

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of that. Yeah, and I
bet Barbecues is kind of the same.

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But I bet, real deep down, when you're alone in the darkest of

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the night, wish success on the
person right across the street front you.

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Yeah, probably, I bet barbecue
because it's so competitive. Yeah, they're

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both very competitive, but like everybody
wants to claim that they have the best,

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you know. Yeah, I bet
there's some gritted teeth and just jealousy

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of oh my god, a third
store. Yeah, you're right, but

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you know, if everyone's doing well
too, that's the whole thing. Like

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they're on FM now, our friends. I truly mean this is I have

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friends at the ticket and the fan. You guys have friends over at the

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ticket. Of course I want them
to do well as long as we're doing

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well too, And that's just not
the case right now. No, we

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need some listeners to come try our
barbecue. God, please try our radio

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barbecue. It's really good. Give
it a chance. We have breakfast barbecue.

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Yeah, right, breakfast, It's
so true, that's what we want

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them to do. There is a
tipping point to even barbecue in Dallas,

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right like, there can't. It
can't. Everyone can't succeed, you know,

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And the levels of success are determining
how well you're doing, how famous

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you get, and how much you're
selling. Articles written about you and people

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talking about in the radio. I
mean, that's how it all works.

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Yeah, I mean, just like
any of the restaurant imagine hundreds of barbecue

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joints of open and closed just because
you can't make it work well. And

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nowadays, dude, I can't even
imagine. I can only imagine what it

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would be to try to do a
startup barbecue spot because when we've heard this

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from the Hurtado guys that we've talked
to, man, the cost of what

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of the goods that it takes to
make this stuff is basically doubled from what

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it was five six years ago.
It is so expensive to do barbecue and

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the labor that's involved in that,
I mean, think about it. You

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know, we've all got friends that
have. Hey man, I'm doing a

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brisket and they're up all night setting
alarms every two hours to go out and

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check the temperature and all of that. You know, it's a time consuming

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task, chaotic, and it's art
as is I suppose all totally, but

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it's a perfected art. I mean, you know, Travis Heimes started just

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doing it and then it got a
little trailer and he's like, this is

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good. We might want to sell
some of this. And then I mean

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it's a really cool, like Texas
success story, and there's so much nuance

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involved in every little every little ingredient
in every little technique matters. And then

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to figure out how you turn what
you did at your house, like,

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oh my god, to mass produce
it, to mass produce it and somebody

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else do it and have it happening
twenty four and not maybe about twenty four,

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but and retain the same quality that
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Yeah, no, thank you.
Yeah. Keep an eye on the Goldies

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gangsters. Yeah, I was thinking, as we try to solve this case,

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you may want to keep a close
eye on the Ferris Wheelers Steelers.

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Oh my god, you know.
Yeah, yeah, as far as that

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peep, please tell me you have
more stories in the scuttle Buck, Kevin,

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I have so many more stories.
Let's get to them next. And

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a first hand account of what happened
last night at the Cotton Bowl with Messi

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intown next to ninety seven to one
the Freak