WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:05.919 You. Chilly Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com and listeners like 2 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:16.199 you Now and Now, Grated Noise and Omnia Check December one, twenty twenty 3 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:20.399 three, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, and I bet 4 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:25.359 if you're a regular listener to the show, you can hear already that I 5 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:31.760 have been under the weather and still am. But we're we're dragging me to 6 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.759 the mic tonight. We're gonna make sure that we do a show. My 7 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.280 co host Bpete is with me. If I didn't have a co host, 8 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.079 I would have bailed on this one as well, because screw it. I 9 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:46.960 can barely talk. I've been suffering from fevers. I'm pulling things together and 10 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:51.240 trying to keep it going so off the top, let's see how we can 11 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:55.479 do this. You guys could help me out by calling in and doing the 12 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.359 talking, but because you haven't heard from me much this week at all anywhere 13 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:03.479 in any ways, they perform also had internet down and all kinds of problems 14 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:07.560 too. But anyway, all this stuff going on, uh, it feels 15 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:11.680 like odd and fun timing. And by the way, I'm not the only 16 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:17.760 one who's sick. But we'll get to that. Actually, funny thing is 17 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:19.959 I got a report from somebody who was at the conference who is you know, 18 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:26.000 very much in line with the regular sort of Corona reality, and they 19 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.200 went and got themselves tested. They are positive for the for the rona and 20 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:36.560 all that kind of thing after the conference. But okay, so could be 21 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:40.840 that that was traveling around at the conference. I guess mister coffing Man didn't 22 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:44.879 just give us a cold. Be pete. Anyway, I need you guys 23 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:48.959 to call in and participate, otherwise we'll run this We'll run this thing short 24 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:53.079 tonight, the hell with it, because yeah, still not up for it. 25 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:55.879 But next week, whether I'm up for it or not, I have 26 00:01:55.959 --> 00:02:00.200 to make this show roll. I had to delay everything this week because I 27 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.680 just you know, two out of it jacked up fevers, pounding headaches. 28 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.200 There was no way I was gonna think straight, do a proper show, 29 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.560 or do anything correctly. So it didn't get done this week. But we're 30 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:15.639 gonna put out some podcasts. I got another if you're a rated Why listener, 31 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:17.800 I got a Rated Why coming up. I've got a bunch of stuff 32 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:22.319 that needs to get out there, needs to get done, and December is 33 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.240 when we're gonna heat it all up. So let's roll it, because twenty 34 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:30.240 twenty four is going to be a big year on ohlly dot com one way 35 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:36.080 or another. Anyway, your help tonight with this show. You talk three 36 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:39.680 one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call. 37 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:45.360 Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. You join us, 38 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:50.080 You become the show tonight, because I dare say that even though be 39 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.800 Pete might be in slightly better shape than me, I don't think it's that 40 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:58.599 much better because, uh, my understanding is you might have suffered over this 41 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.080 ten day period, is well well, and I barely have any news on 42 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:08.759 my mind outside of what George Santos got him self bounced finally. Huh yeah, 43 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:14.919 so that's interesting, interesting politicking there in Congress maybe, and what the 44 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.759 network TVs are doing with it is funny. But outside of that, I 45 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:22.000 haven't cared, haven't looked. I mean, we could be involved in a 46 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:23.479 new war and I would not know it, but the shape I've been in 47 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:29.400 this week, so hopefully that's not true. But then again, the way 48 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:31.680 things go, even if it was reported or wasn't, it could or could 49 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:36.840 not be true. What was that oh right, rumors of wars and wars 50 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.759 of brumers always going on. Are we at war with Oceania? Does Oceania 51 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:44.800 exist? By the way, is Eurasia at war with us? Are they 52 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:50.400 the enemy? What time is that minute of hate? Yeah? Why not? 53 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.199 We could go there nineteen eighty four New World, Brave, New World, 54 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.560 that is, mix them together, throw them in a pot and spit 55 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:02.240 them back at you. Maybe not nine five two seven five zero one six, 56 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.560 or reach out to me Charles dot Ocelli on Skype. I will drag 57 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:11.560 you into the show. But otherwise three one nine five two seven five zero 58 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.879 one six, join us, b Pete. I turn it over to you, 59 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.360 my brother. What is on your mind? What do you have to 60 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:25.120 say to open the Friday open mic? Well, since we've heard from the 61 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:29.319 whib side of the the man Flu, you know you just guys like you 62 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.480 chucked that. Let's women give us a bad name about overacting when we're six. 63 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:38.959 Oh. Now, I've had what you've had since we well since Monday 64 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.519 when I got back after dropping you off and I told you it was coming, 65 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.319 and you're like, uh, I'm fine, no, no sniffles, 66 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.079 just my throat that was from talking I'm okay, and see what came back 67 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:53.959 to get you. It did. See, it had to give your body 68 00:04:54.319 --> 00:05:00.120 and grow, and the virus just had to multiply enough to walk up to 69 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:06.240 all of your tea cells and everything else and basically sucker punched them. And 70 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:13.079 now you're dealing with sievers and headache and aches and pains, and it didn't 71 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.399 help. Your back was hurting on top of it. Let's see, I 72 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.000 went to work all week, all week long. Yes, went to work 73 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:24.079 feeling like crap. So I don't want to hear any complainting, none, 74 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:28.120 not any Wow, you want to cut it short, we'll cut it short. 75 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.759 But we got a few headlines we can go over and toss it around. 76 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:36.839 I'm feeling al of a lot better than I was last Friday, So 77 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.399 okay, Yes, there is a tunnel. You just got to let it 78 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.879 run its course. Yeah. Well, look, you started feeling like crap 79 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.519 on Monday, and you were blaming me for giving it to you, and 80 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.120 I said, wait a minute, I'm not in bad shape. Matter of 81 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:53.079 fact, I was okay. I started to you know, my throat was 82 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:59.319 hurting, but I should I breeder. See, you was fresh in your 83 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:01.839 system when you gave it to me, and that zapped your strength. He 84 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:04.800 had to cook a little more, and he had nobody else to give it 85 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:09.279 to except those in the household and the dogs, and boom, see it 86 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.360 caught up with you. So no matter, no matter what I say, 87 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:17.800 it's going to be my fault. Right, Well, you know, if 88 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:23.920 Frankie got sick for like two days, boom, he's better. I mean 89 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:27.800 you know that that that's what happens when you don't plunge a bunch of vaccinated 90 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:32.839 crap into him. Huh uh. Yeah, so he's okay. But uh 91 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:36.519 no. And I got reports from others that they that they had to actually, 92 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:41.000 you know, tested positive for the rona afterwards, and I'm like, 93 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:46.560 oh, bo but this this ain't rona. I've had rona. This a. 94 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.040 This is the flu. This is just a common variety of flu that 95 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:56.160 goes around. And somehow the one strain that would bother me happened to end 96 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.480 up in Dallas at the same time I did. Yeah, that I don't 97 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.759 have had in centuries. The last time I had anything that was close to 98 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:05.560 the flue was after taking a flu shot, and that was the last one 99 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.399 I've ever taken. I've never taken another one. I've never had a problem 100 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:14.639 to this year. So this is going around the creeping crad. Everybody's getting 101 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.079 out. It wouldn't surprise me that the RONA did make the rounds. That 102 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:23.519 was a lot of people at that hotel. Well, I still say it's 103 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.279 that guy who was outside with us though, going Oh by the way, 104 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.959 I'm sick and leaving, but let me talk and cough on you for a 105 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:32.480 minute. Anyway, I still say it's that guy. That guy's fault right 106 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:38.480 there, that's who did it. Seriously, he could have got it from 107 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:41.519 somebody else there and aim after being there one day, I've had this stuff 108 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.399 hit me. When I took that flu shot. We took it like seven 109 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.120 thirty in the morning. By five thirty that night, I was just like 110 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.680 I am now, nose running, like to say it, coughing like hell, 111 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:55.399 fevers, chills, I mean, the flu, aches and pains, 112 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.920 no doubt about it. And you know they tell me, you know you 113 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:01.759 can't get it from the sean. It's a coincidence that you caught it at 114 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:07.879 the very time that we gave you the vaccination. Okay, whatever, So 115 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.079 do you know how this is? I feel great compared to last week. 116 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:13.759 Last week, I was feeling bad. I mean, I sat here through 117 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.240 thanks and thank god there was football honor. I'd have gone absolutely crazy. 118 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.439 Yeah, but you are right. I am the wib site of the You 119 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.199 know what, when I go down, forget it. I'm down. That's 120 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.839 that's it. You know, let me sleep is pretty much where I go. 121 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:31.879 And you know, it used to be that I got over things quicker 122 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:37.159 than everybody, but now I'm getting old now, so it doesn't work that 123 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.039 way. When I was in Switzerland, I caught a brand of the flu 124 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:46.399 over there that was kind of unique. But I didn't catch it until everybody 125 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:50.320 else in the house had gone through it. And when they went it, 126 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.360 I thought they were going to die. It started with a sister, and 127 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.559 then the sister's boyfriend, and then the other sister, and then the mom 128 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:01.720 and then finally me. And when I had it, nobody else had it. 129 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.279 They were completely over it. So I had to start listening. She's 130 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.000 my girlfriend was from Great Britain, so I had to start hearing about bitching 131 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.759 about the man flu. And I thought I took care of every one of 132 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:18.120 you idiots for the past two weeks while this thing made the rounds and you 133 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.320 can't even give me two days to feel bad. Screw you sound like, 134 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:30.120 yeah, well no, there's a worldwide where is a worldwide effort to make 135 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.799 men feel guilty to being sick. And that's where all this man flu crap 136 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.000 comes from. Old man, they were were at where they just sick that 137 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.200 you know, they're just they're worst. Now that's bullshit. Okay, I 138 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.320 thought that's what you were saying about me. Meanwhile, we do have a 139 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:50.679 caller. You are a perfect example of why women complain about man flu. 140 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:56.840 You got to fight through it, you red bull or you know, drink 141 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:58.399 more coffee. Maybe that's the problem. You don't drink enough coffee. Don't 142 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.480 drink enough CoFe, you know, smoking enough cigarettes. Uh well, I 143 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.159 do admit that when I when I started to smoke more, I felt better. 144 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.799 But but you know it's and and I drank gatorade and I got back 145 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.440 listen, I did a lot of stuff, but I just wasn't my head 146 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:18.360 was not ready to be figuring out how to book everybody. You know, 147 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:24.440 it's just absolutely some pedia light. It does so much better bottle fies. 148 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:28.559 I mean, it's so much better for you just with a couple of small 149 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.960 bottles of the Pedia light. Knock one of those out of the day, 150 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:35.879 right, it really helps, well, And I did finally, I mean 151 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:41.320 after after about like four or five days, I finally had missus ogo get 152 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.000 you know, a couple over the counter things like let's cut down on some 153 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.519 of these symptoms, because it was ridiculous, it was running a long time. 154 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.360 Monday, when I got back the first place I stopped, I tried 155 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.960 to find some as I can, because I could feel it coming on in 156 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.399 my throat and I thought, okay, this is it. Man. I 157 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.759 couldn't find any of the store was and I didn't want to drive another twenty 158 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.399 miles I should have, right, So that's why I bought a bottle of 159 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.360 night Quill. And it took me two bottles of night Quill to get to 160 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.039 the point that I could, you know, feel human. Well, something's 161 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.559 going on in this part of Georgia too, because you know, all the 162 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.440 Zycam, all of the Zequill, all of the Nike will seem to have 163 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:24.120 been out of all of the stores locally, which, yeah, it's going 164 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.720 around. Then there's a pneumonia outbreak. I want to understand a couple of 165 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.080 States. I think we've got one out in the western board the state, 166 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.360 you know. I mean, it's that timing. You're gonna start catching stuff, 167 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.039 you know exactly. Look, and I had it a few times as 168 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.320 a kid because of poor living conditions. I had got pneumonia a few times. 169 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:43.080 So I've got you know, the scar and the lungs and that kind 170 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.919 of thing, which you know, how with it, I still have better 171 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:50.639 lung power than most people, which is weird because they always questioned me, 172 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.759 like, you've been smoking how long? When they test my lungs, you 173 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.240 know, when they do the lung tests, my lungs are still pretty strong, 174 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:00.799 so you know, even though the rest of me hurt and everything else. 175 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.440 Anyways, enough out of me and the complaints. Let's roll forward. 176 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.720 We got a caller, so I'm gonna bring him on and let him do 177 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:09.759 his job, or you know, one of his jobs. Anyways, and 178 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.399 we are going to get back to I've got backed up guests, all kinds 179 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:18.559 of stuff ready to roll, and there's gonna be some new features coming up 180 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:22.240 too. I've got a couple of people that have agreed so far to do 181 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:26.799 op ed pieces where we're gonna have very short podcasts from some interesting characters. 182 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.480 The first one of interest everybody will be Alan Dale, and he's going to 183 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.440 start doing at least a monthly installment onoceelly dot com and I am not giving 184 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:43.080 him any sort of script or guidelines. Whatever Alan Dale feels like people need 185 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:48.360 to be, you know, informed about, is gonna be what Alan Dale 186 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:50.600 talks about. And I've got a couple other people lined up that are gonna 187 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:56.039 do very short, like say, under twenty minute podcasts, which won't be 188 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.639 really podcasts, it will just be their op edd of sorts. Alongside of 189 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.799 publishing some articles on the front page. I published Mike Swanson's article before the 190 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.720 fevers grabbed me. And in December we're going to see all this start to 191 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:13.000 roll out. So there's gonna be more content coming at of ocelly dot com 192 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.679 than normal. And I'm gonna go back to my four day week schedule that 193 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:18.960 I planned on going to in the first place. So let's get to the 194 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:26.240 caller, and that would be Jimmy James. Jimmy, did you catch the 195 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:33.799 creeping crud that b Pete mentioned? It seems to be everywhere, you know 196 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:39.639 what. I'm the only one that has been stricken with it. Whatever's going 197 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:46.559 around. My buddy, he's got that same junk pretty bad. I do 198 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.799 agree with B Pete though it's not the rona, but it is like a 199 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.159 flu, and it's it's pretty it's a pretty good one. It's not like 200 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:58.399 a twenty four hour bug. It's a pretty massive one. I've been creeping 201 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.440 on it for ten days, I'm telling you. And I thought it was 202 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:09.080 okayone good everyone's saying it. It just lingers, it sticks. Yeah. 203 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.960 It was weird because I thought, you know, okay, sore throat, 204 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:15.960 and I was worn down. You know. I kept moving that whole weekend 205 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:20.240 and I put in a lot more work than I would normally, and physically 206 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.720 I didn't really sleep much and I did a lot, you know. So 207 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.639 I thought, I'm just worn out and my back hurts because it's a long 208 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.879 car ride, you know, And that's that. Uh. And Nbpete came 209 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.960 up sick and I said, okay, well maybe I'll get sick. And 210 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.120 I didn't expect, you know, ten days later, jeez, I'm just 211 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.919 kind of coming out of it now, still hurting, and you could hear 212 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.679 my voice is not right. But it's weird. It's weird, So you 213 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:50.320 haven't gotten stricken with the creeping crud. No, but if it makes you 214 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:56.519 feel better, I pretty much always had that jump. Okay, well it 215 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.960 doesn't make me feel any better, Jimmy, I don't want to see any 216 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.279 what he's sick, but look enough for a sick talk. Right, let's 217 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.399 let's get on with what is now. The only headline that I took notice 218 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:13.759 of in the weird reaction from the MSM so far is uh is Santo's getting 219 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:18.240 booted from the house? Right in politics and all that, I haven't been 220 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:24.720 paying attention to anything really this whole excuse me week? What do you want 221 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:28.440 to throw on the table? You'll you'll be informing me with something fresh and 222 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:33.759 new, whatever it is, go for it. I can't say I've been 223 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:39.000 too hot and heavy into the news this week for even a few weeks, 224 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.840 actually too much news. But I did see. I think they did toss 225 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:52.440 and I think Santos is out right right right definitely. And I'll tell you 226 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.480 the you know, the JFK week stuff. I still have follow throughs. 227 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.200 This week we'll hear from Larry Hancock on the show. Oh no, no, 228 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.000 not Larry this week. Actually, next week will be Larry Hancock this 229 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:06.159 week. We'll hear from Mike on the show on Thursday about probably a little 230 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:08.039 bit more about the conference and stuff like that. I'm gonna let some other 231 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:14.279 people fell in about that and a few other interesting people that came out of 232 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:18.879 that, but also some people of interest you might not expect to hear from 233 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.519 that we haven't heard from in a long time. And some new people have 234 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.080 approached me, So we're going to have some fresh guests coming up, and 235 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:30.000 it's gonna be gonna be an interesting couple of weeks here for sure. And 236 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:33.440 like I said, I hope to get this op Ed thing rolling so that 237 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.960 we have a small group of people that produce for you guys, you know, 238 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:42.919 very very random pieces of importance that we'll get introduced as like mini podcasts 239 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:47.480 too. So it's gonna be it's gonna be a good, rolling bit of 240 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.639 content, despite the fact that the past couple of weeks have been really lame. 241 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:53.600 I mean I was away for a week and then sick, so I 242 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:57.360 mean, I know, we barely put out anything, but it's about to 243 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:02.360 change. So uh, I hope you guys enjoy all that. Uh. 244 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.920 Anyways, but Jimmy so outside of that. I mean that, and what 245 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.680 football you had? Did the Lions lose their game and on Thanksgiving? I 246 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:18.000 I forgot? Let yes they good. Yes, it was a disgrace lost 247 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.160 to the Packers. I see. Well, I always think of that cartoon 248 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.799 where the guy says to the to the lion like a physical lion, he 249 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:27.960 goes, hey, wait a minute, Thanksgiving. Aren't you supposed to be 250 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:33.319 in Detroit losing a football game? I always think of that car So, 251 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:38.039 you know, I don't know. I think they said, they said, 252 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:41.640 this is the eighth or tenth one in the in the world we've lost. 253 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:47.759 That's pretty sad. Well, you know, tradition is tradition, Jimmy, 254 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:53.319 right, look at it. At least your teams one in ten like mine 255 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:57.160 is. So you're having a good year one in ten. Oh the Panthers 256 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:02.759 are doing that bad? Yeah? Hell yeah. They just fired the coach, 257 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:07.000 which I don't understand why they didn't do it before. Now, wait 258 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:11.480 a minute, so I'm scared. Does this mean that the Jets are doing 259 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.359 better than the Panthers right now if they have more than one win? Hell, 260 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:26.960 yes, that's horrible. If you know I think Jets, don't think 261 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:32.480 I'm gonna don't kick up. I'm gonna check the standings. Guys. I 262 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:34.640 gotta see this because I got to see where the Jets and the Browns are 263 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:38.279 standing. Because if your teams are not doing as well as the Jets, 264 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:42.000 are, the Browns your beat. I mean that's terrible. Sorry, well 265 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:47.160 everybody above the Panthers. So everybody's having a good year. And and the 266 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.000 thing is, look, even if we get another first round draft pick out 267 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:52.319 of it like we did last year, what good is it gonna do it? 268 00:18:52.680 --> 00:19:00.759 I mean, that's terrible. Okay, Now, if I could speak 269 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:04.319 to missus Ford, missus Ford, you need to open up the pocketbook, 270 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:11.079 let the mosquet all float it out and everything here that thing out. Pull 271 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.000 out a few stacks of money. And we need some free agents to start 272 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:21.400 with dominn Sue. This isn't the time to cheap out. Don't say, 273 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:25.039 oh, next year, There is no next year. Okay, old woman, 274 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:30.359 this is it in our lifetime. This is our one stats. Okay. 275 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.440 Let me let me inform the listener in case. I know we don't 276 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.240 usually do football talk, but this is funny to me. The Carolina Panthers 277 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.039 are currently one in ten. The Jets are currently, they have four wins 278 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:45.519 the Jets. I just saw, So the Jets are doing better than the 279 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.759 Panthers. Now wait a minute, let's see about the Lions, because if 280 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:52.880 they're doing better than the Lions, I mean, it's bad. Well, 281 00:19:55.079 --> 00:20:02.119 we won't mat and lost three. We're repeatable. We'll get the It's just 282 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:06.519 it's just a couple of games that the Lions had problems with. Otherwise they 283 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:08.000 d ten and one. I mean, they've had a pretty decent year. 284 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:12.759 But yes, they've got their act. On Thanksgiving they just happened. They 285 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:18.079 just had to take their Thanksgiving l But other than that, yeah, they're 286 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:19.559 they're at the top of their division. It looks like to me, so 287 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:26.200 that's not so bad. They just you know, you got to keep the 288 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.319 tradition. Jimmy James, I mean, what are you gonna do the Oh 289 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:33.640 my god, the Browns. You ready for this, guys, The Browns 290 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:40.079 have a seven and four season right now. That's aw bizarre. Yeah, 291 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:44.720 and uh, if it wasn't for the Revens, I'm sorry. The playoffs. 292 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:49.000 Just you're good. Everybody's surprised. The Brown's still carried over a lot 293 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.599 of talent, you know. They they've they've got a team. Instead of 294 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.400 being a bottom dweller, they're a mid dweller ended up doing the top, 295 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.240 you know, depending on which division you're looking at. But yeah, they've 296 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:02.920 got We've got a quality team this year. Look at what Seattle's doing, 297 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.200 you know, look at some of these big names. San Francisco has been 298 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:11.480 doing great since we sent all of our damn players to them. It's amazing. 299 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:15.039 But yeah, we're just relying on the draft again. I hope we 300 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.839 need I'm like Jimmy James. We need to, you know, so crow 301 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.240 bar and a wallet and start buying some free agents that are worth something instead 302 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:26.200 of dumping all your money on quarterbacks who can't stay in the pocket. What's 303 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:32.720 scary is if the Ravens were not at nine and three, the Browns could 304 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.880 potentially be leading their division because they're tied with the Steelers at seven and four 305 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:44.839 in the AFC North. Wild. Okay, well, you know, usually 306 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.640 it's like you don't even need to check with them. Cleveland Browns are doing 307 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:52.519 I mean, but that's wild. Okay, Well, I stand totally corrected. 308 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.359 But the Jets still with a poor losing season as per usual, better 309 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:03.119 shape than the Panthers though. Okay, always Buffalo has had some great games 310 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:06.480 and they started out big guns, but they've had a few games that they 311 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:10.400 should have won that that's knocked them back down the standings. I mean, 312 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:12.720 look at the look at the Giants, they're sucking this year. They look 313 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:18.920 at Jid Washington, they're sucking. Well. The Bills have a split season 314 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:22.519 six and six, so I mean they're you know, they're at five hundred, 315 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.519 they're okay, uh, but they're I don't think they're going to be 316 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:27.519 in the playoffs. The Dolphins are ant eating three. I mean, you 317 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.839 know, that's the way that is. But the Jets are definitely out of 318 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:36.079 it at four and seven. Uh. Anyways, it's just interesting to take 319 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.119 a look at it and unusual to me. If they won the rest of 320 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.279 their games, they'd be at what nine and nine and seven, they'd be 321 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:48.240 possibly wild card. They could do it. Yeah, Okay, well I 322 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:52.720 doubt they will though, because they're the Jets. But you know, okay, 323 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:53.759 fair enough. Oh, I got knocked out of my chat room. 324 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:56.240 By the way, we do have a live chatroom Atchelli dot com. And 325 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:00.640 no, we're not going to just talk football tonight. We will talk whatever 326 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.359 it is you guys bring up and by all means take over the show, 327 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.000 as you call in. So anyway, Jimmy, I pulled you around a 328 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:12.160 whole bunch of different things. Is there anything else on your mind though that 329 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.519 you saw that you noticed that you think should be discussed at the moment? 330 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.440 Let's see. So first day, are you guys going to be discussed in 331 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:27.400 that Limpkin article? Then yes, I was hoping to do that. So 332 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:32.039 you did see the Lumpkin article? You got the document and all that, 333 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:37.759 Yeah, okay, yeah, because I published it also, I republished on 334 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.680 o'celly dot com. Added a few more things there, including the file if 335 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.680 you want to download it for PDF, which I don't think Mike did, 336 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:52.359 but but I put it out. And the Assassination Records archive website also published 337 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.839 the article. So you know, it's not an exclusive, but it's an 338 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:06.200 interesting art. It's an interesting piece, don't you think? Yeah, okay, 339 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:18.240 I believe it. It sounds correct. Yeah, oh you know what 340 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:26.599 I mean? So Jimmy right that no one could identified supposedly, well, 341 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:32.119 he was invited to discuss things with the motorcade and all that, and nobody 342 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:36.400 could seem to figure out because according to other documents, somebody else was invited 343 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:40.599 to that meeting that also shouldn't have been there. There's some weird stuff going 344 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:45.519 on with regard to the Motorcate planning, you know, which again is interesting. 345 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:49.440 I don't know if it's going to reveal anything huge, but but you 346 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.640 never know, you know. More rocket kickover. Hey, I had a 347 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.400 question for you, actually, James, from a couple of weeks ago. 348 00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:02.079 Well, yeah, just real quick, a couple of things. You had 349 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:06.279 mentioned that you might be able to lay your hands on a twenty six volume 350 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:12.559 set from the Warrant Commission. Have you made any progress with that? Not? 351 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:17.799 This week? Do you do all? The snow town has been pretty 352 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:22.680 empty every day? Okay, no problem. I was just wondering, because 353 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:27.960 yeah, I'm rooting for you man pretty much. If if the schools closed, 354 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:32.799 they close, they don't bother to work, okay in their two hour 355 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:36.839 workday. Yeah well yeah, a little bird civil servants, what are you 356 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:41.160 gonna do? But sure? All right? Well look keep me posted on 357 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.839 that though, because I love it when somebody gets ahold of them. You 358 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.319 know. The cheapest one I've seen is about twenty three hundred lately, for 359 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.640 a full set, you know, so if you can get a hold of 360 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:57.519 one small yeah, from nineteen sixty four, that costs fifteen hundred, So 361 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:03.400 I guess it ain't really, no, it's not. I saw the hearings, 362 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.680 just the hearings without the exhibits, you know, the first half like 363 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:12.200 one through fifteen or something like that, or one through thirteen, I forget, 364 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:17.559 But the first half of them available for like eight hundred bucks. I 365 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.839 saw that recently, and I was surprised. But a complete set, you 366 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:26.279 don't see them for less than two thousand, ever, and they're usually about 367 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.000 three grand. So I mean, I'd love to see you get a hold 368 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:30.319 of one. I've been trying to get hold of one for many years. 369 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.599 For a little while, I was collecting individual volumes, but you know, 370 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:38.880 ex wives, they destroy that as we go, and so you know, 371 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:42.400 I lost those, even though I was acquiring those at about thirty fifty dollars 372 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:48.319 apiece, which would have cost me much more than you know, what would 373 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.839 have been forty six hundred dollars and fifty dollars apiece, right, so it 374 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:57.880 would have been it would have been a mess. But you know, anyways 375 00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:07.359 that I'm glad you brought the h C H h C C as they had 376 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.519 those two I didn't remember reading them. They could have if they had one 377 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:18.440 set. Yeah, well they're there. They were not as many of the 378 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.319 hs C A volumes printed, but I've come close to getting a hold of 379 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.920 one of those for about a grand a full set. Uh but uh but 380 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:32.160 but just you know, the guy got a better deal, like last minute 381 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.200 on me the one time. It's like the dc A film, which, 382 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:41.359 by the way, you know the Dallas Cinema Associates film. You know what 383 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:47.079 I'm talking about, Which film, the d c A film, Dallas Cinema 384 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:56.880 Associates which movies. It's not no, it is out of Dallas. He's 385 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:03.599 got a compilation. What was it, Four individuals that had short sections of 386 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:08.680 film got together and they combined them. It's a little a little closer. 387 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.920 I think it's more than four. Yeah, yeah, okay, it's more 388 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.759 than four by now. I think originally it was three and then they added 389 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:21.759 more to it. Basically, it's a compilation of little short segments and I 390 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.599 mean just a few seconds, and he shows activity around the school book depository. 391 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.599 It shows some other footage from some of the other buildings, there's really 392 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:36.720 not a lot in it, except that it's very useful in placing people in 393 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:42.200 other films and correlating them. Yes, that person was standing here, so 394 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.880 their perspective as this has been really helpful. Well, there's also a piece 395 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:52.359 of the film done by Charles Mentisana who who filmed the police seizing a rifle 396 00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:57.359 at the time of the school book depository search, which does not appear to 397 00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:03.519 be the carcano, you know, which is interesting because they don't show another 398 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:10.119 rifle in inventory that they took, but clearly they're seizing a rifle in the 399 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.440 film. Now, what's weird about this is that a lot of people don't 400 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:18.799 know, and you know, the presentation was made at Lancer by Alex Harris 401 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:25.400 regarding this that at a certain point the people got together and created a home 402 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:30.920 movie version of this that they sold in a local store. So for a 403 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.599 little while. Yeah, yeah, well listen, they told the Cinema Association 404 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:41.400 to be able to distribute it, right, and they were a little group 405 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.720 of again home movie makers who got together and decided to put their assassination footage 406 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.039 together. Now it had been shown in a couple of Dallas movie theaters and 407 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:53.720 again it was for sale. That poster that I got while we were at 408 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.960 the conference there, that one poster I was trying not to bend or anything, 409 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:04.119 was actually the advertisement for it for that store. So I had that. 410 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.359 I almost got one of those films a couple of years ago off of 411 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:14.759 eBay, and I was, Yeah. It was also very influential in establishing 412 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:19.720 that the guy in the outions photo was Billy Lovelady based on the he showed 413 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.559 he was wearing and everything else. And that was a lot of the footage 414 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:27.559 that was referred to which in the position, and then like I said, 415 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:32.759 from others, they could they could determine other people that were in both films 416 00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:37.759 or in other still shots. So it's very good. It's a very it's 417 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.640 a very well, I wouldn't say very influential, but yes, it has 418 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:42.359 a lot of influence in a lot of little areas well. It's got a 419 00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:47.599 lot of good stuff for researchers who were trying to put things on a timeline. 420 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:55.000 And the truth is grown this material, were this material have ended up? 421 00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:00.559 And that other thing, the oh you know that two hour combo of 422 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.160 news footage that they did like twenty years ago, Well that's what I was 423 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.279 just gonna say, Yeah, that's what I was just going to tell you, 424 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.400 is that if you remember, Groden put out a VHS a long time 425 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:17.039 ago that then became a DVD later that he called the Assassination Films, which 426 00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:21.559 had you know, pretty much full versions of most of the films that he 427 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.680 was able to collect, and that there was a version of the DCA film 428 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.920 on there as a bonus I think, or maybe it was one of the 429 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:32.160 fis. It might have been one of the main films or a bonus, 430 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.720 but either way, it was on there. So that's usually the only place 431 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.480 people ever saw it. And I think, you know, YouTube, I 432 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:44.079 think has a cut down version of it somewhere up on somebody's channel, unauthorized 433 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:48.079 completely, so on and so forth. But that film has kind of been 434 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.160 seen by some people, and it has allowed people to place things like Love 435 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.400 Lady and I wonder, you know, a good study of it. I 436 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.920 wonder what that would have to say about prayer Man, you know, as 437 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.200 far as can we track down prayer Man for real in that film? I 438 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:13.000 think so, but I haven't done it yet. Anyways, Love Lady and 439 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:19.240 prayer Man be both Lady, well, no norway Man and prayer can't be 440 00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.119 both be the same dude. No, but but maybe we could Yeah, 441 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.559 no, absolutely, they're two different people, but we could maybe identify prayer 442 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.000 Man. I think through the DCA film if somebody carefully studies it. Uh 443 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.680 But anyway, I was saying to you about eBay. I had almost gotten 444 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.160 one of those films that was sold in that department store a couple of years 445 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:45.319 ago, and I found out just this week who beat me for it. 446 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.160 It turns out that film that Alex was holding during his presentation when he showed 447 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.839 everybody, here's the film in the box that they sold, that was actually 448 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:58.240 Kenneth's film Gabby's husband, Right, it's actually his. He's the one who 449 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:04.839 beat me on eBay for it. Uh So I found that really amazing. 450 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.039 It was like, oh, look, I actually have run into the How 451 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.839 often do you run into somebody who beat you on eBay for something? Right? 452 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.680 Yeah? About ago? Two links, two links in the room. 453 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:23.720 One is a DCA film, The Final Hour, the other is some other 454 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:29.839 DCA footage. So they've got several versions from off the net, so they've 455 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.039 got good quality and bad quality. But I just threw those in the room 456 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.839 for people Jimmy, you can go and look at this. It might refresh 457 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.240 your memory. You've probably seen these before, you just didn't know it was 458 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:44.680 the DCA film, right. And I think Rodent specifically excised the mental sound 459 00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.400 a part that I was talking about on one of his presentations. Uh. 460 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:52.480 And those those DVDs or or VHS's are still really useful because you don't have 461 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.839 a collection of films anywhere else outside of Rodan's collection that that you know, 462 00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.960 that you can get in one shot. You know, another thing I want 463 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:12.039 to get I was, uh uh uh? Who was the who is the 464 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.400 guy that was always arguing with Jerry Henny, the Jewish guy that started the 465 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:23.239 Defamation League and all that? Oh what? The guy who was with Ruby? 466 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:30.960 No, no, he's still alive. He's uh always the guy that 467 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:36.480 did the Dylan analogy. Oh uh oh oh you mean you mean the guy 468 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:43.760 who did the chronology in Fetzer's book. Yeah, he did it. You 469 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:50.159 know he's got the capsules. M Now you got me there. I don't 470 00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:53.360 know, I don't know who you're referring to now. Sorry, the guy 471 00:34:53.480 --> 00:35:00.599 that you can't remember he was he's always arguing with Bob Dylan argues the first 472 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:07.039 dylanology. Oh, I don't know. Do you know who he's referring to 473 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:15.079 be. He's the only guy older than John Berber in the JFK community. 474 00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:22.559 I don't know. Hold on, you're not talking about Malcolm Blunt. I 475 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.960 mean, he's been around forever, but I don't think he's in his nineties 476 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:36.559 yet. Nuh, this is Oh, come on, you don't mean Peter 477 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:44.519 Dell Scott. Oh look, I mean that's what That's what I'm trying to 478 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.880 do now, I can't. I mean, the Anti Defamation League was started 479 00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:52.719 by Sigmund Livingston, who was a lawyer in Chicago, but he had I 480 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.639 know who I he's talking about. I can't think of the guy's name. 481 00:35:54.679 --> 00:36:04.280 It's not it's not. What the hell? Oh, here we go all 482 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:08.559 of the nation around. This is crazy. I know who he's talking about. 483 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:20.639 I cannot think of it. It's not Sigmund, it's you're talking about 484 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:28.639 the guy in the wheelchair. But anyway, look, while they're searching around 485 00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.159 for this name, you guys listening can join us three one nine five two 486 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.880 seven five zero one six. That's the number to call, and you can 487 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.239 change the subject at any time in case this is boring you the JFK stuff 488 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:43.920 or the football discussion or whatever. But I'm fully open here and might take 489 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:49.280 a break shortly so I can go cough more off, Mike, you know, 490 00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.880 just in between. But love to hear from you about whatever's been going 491 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.599 on this week or for the past couple of weeks, whatever you want to 492 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.599 throw on the table. Totally available to you. Uh, sounds like that 493 00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.760 we need are getting act him in the other room. Matter of fact, 494 00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:06.159 I might just take a quick break here just to not have things slow down. 495 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.119 And uh, we'll continue with the Ocelli effect, open mic here on 496 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:34.440 this Friday night. Wallstream, Window dot dot, go Silver, the stock 497 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:42.320 market Rallstreamreindow dot dot. Perhaps you're invested deeply, Perhaps you're not in deep 498 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:46.119 enough. Maybe you're thinking about getting started. Wall Street, Windows dot com, 499 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:51.239 doos dot com. Michael Swanson, the brilliant author of the War State, 500 00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.800 understood these trends professionally for many years, and now he gives you the 501 00:37:54.800 --> 00:38:04.320 benefit of his knowledge. Wall Street, go there, now go there, 502 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.559 now go there. Now. Do you like history? 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It exposes things about the Bay of 512 00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.320 Pigs and no one has ever written about before. It shows why it really 513 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:07.519 failed and why the United States did not earn from it. It also shows 514 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:12.400 why other countries today are doing secret operations with more success. This is the 515 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:16.280 book that puts what some want to deny into the light. In Denial, 516 00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:23.239 Secret Wars with Air Strikes and Tanks Larryhancock. For more information, go to 517 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:29.320 Larry hyphen Handcock dot com. Pick up your copy of In Denial at Amazon 518 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:34.000 dot com in digital or physical, oh Chili dot com. Go ahead calling, 519 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.800 I'm about the Jfay assassination. Right, Well, what do you want 520 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:43.000 to know Judy Baker's wild claim Oswal girlfriends he knew Ruby and Barry handswer weapons. 521 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.719 Really, I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It doesn't 522 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.360 make me a wagon. But okay, Oswal was on the building and trying 523 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.559 to prevent the murder of John Kennedy. Come on now has a real effort 524 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:59.079 on the Dafay assassination. Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her 525 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.840 own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy of a book where 526 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:07.119 Walt Brown utilizes her own words and the known evidence in the case to get 527 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:12.840 at well a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith Ary Baker in 528 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.880 her own words from the author himself, signed if you request it by contacting 529 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.480 doctor Brown at k I A S J F K at aol dot com. 530 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:28.079 It's a fun book and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims Judith 531 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.639 very Baker in her own words, thank you for all the great information. 532 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:47.440 Get ready for segment number two of the Friday Night open Mic. And indeed, 533 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.400 I am uh not sounding like myself, but hopefully you will join us 534 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:57.360 three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six, that's the 535 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.599 number to call. Yes. Indeed, I have not been product too lately, 536 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.199 but we're about to start to roll full steam ahead, and there's gonna 537 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.199 be a lot of new features coming out on the network, new people, 538 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.320 hopefully. I've invited a few extra people to do op eds and we'll see 539 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:16.159 what develops during the month of December. But either way, all by myself, 540 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.760 I got plenty of content. I got to get to lots of guests, 541 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.519 new people, some people we haven't heard from in a while, and 542 00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:28.519 new books, new publications, new films, new stuff to tackle onochelly dot 543 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.840 com. Oh VPTE, I think you got your noise for your chat room 544 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.840 open wide because I just heard that knock noise, So maybe mute that. 545 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:39.159 Jimmy James is on the line, and I think we have another caller. 546 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.480 So, Jimmy, you were talking about and see there's that knock noise from 547 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.760 the chat. Jimmy, you were talking about somebody whose name you couldn't remember. 548 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.559 So I want to give you a chance to mention that, talk about 549 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.519 it on air, and then we'll turn over and pick up Harlan and whoever 550 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.480 else calls in three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six 551 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:06.719 Jimmy, Yeah, and of course the mo went to break came to me 552 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.480 a J. Weberman of course, even once I said it, all three 553 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:19.880 of us that A yeah, Well I haven't thought of him since he did 554 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.519 that book where they had the overlays, you know, and he was trying 555 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:27.559 to prove that uh what's his name hunt was in dealy Plaza and you know 556 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.760 which I disagree with, but he had interesting overlays in the book. Remember 557 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:37.639 that that was a unique kind of book that him and his co author was 558 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:44.320 that was that the Anthony Summer's book was cooked conspiracy. No, it was 559 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.679 something like that. I remember that book. Yeah, yeah, No, 560 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.400 it was a neat book. Uh, it was interesting at the time. 561 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:52.760 Like I said, a lot of stuff in it has you know, since 562 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.840 been kind of debunked naturally through the process. But but Weberman was a really 563 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:01.719 uh interesting author in at his time. And you know, you know who 564 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:08.320 used to actually know I think he knew him directly was Bob Wilson. Knew 565 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:12.760 him. Of course, Bob and I don't talk anymore, but Bob I 566 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.039 think knew him. Directly, either him or his co author one or the 567 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:22.039 other he knew directly here. I'd like to talk to him. Well, 568 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:24.840 he wasn't mad at me for some reason. I'm sure Wilson wouldn't take it 569 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:29.119 out on you. Yeah, he wouldn't take out on you all at him 570 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:34.800 a Robberman, He's pretty unpredictable, quite frankly. Yeah, that's my understanding 571 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.880 of him too. I've never really dealt with him myself. That's one author 572 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:42.840 I never dealt with, so h. But the reason he was bringing up 573 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.199 his books is he put out one is five ten years ago. A fact, 574 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:50.719 I think it was ten years ago. I just can't believe it, 575 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:54.679 but I think it was for the fiftieth And it's just loaded with good, 576 00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:02.519 rare pictures and awesome where as. And that's another thing that I definitely want 577 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:09.880 to buy. I think his Pictures of Assassination pass well. Pictures of the 578 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:15.840 Pain is Richard Trask's book that is an excellent reference book, Pictures of the 579 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:21.159 Pain that that has a lot of strips in it. It's very small strips, 580 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.800 but you can actually see a lot of times. You know one famous 581 00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:28.239 photograph, but you don't know the others that were taken by the same photographer, 582 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.880 and Trask actually shows you a lot of the here's the rest of the 583 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:35.840 Altkins photos, you know, here's the rest of the slides, here's the 584 00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.320 rest of Uh. He put together a lot of that stuff, Trask, 585 00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:45.559 Richard Trask. But uh, then, now was was that that was that 586 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:52.039 other? Uh? The older book, wasn't it? That's it? Yes, 587 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.519 Kudeta in America or something like that. Yeah, or maybe it was 588 00:45:54.519 --> 00:46:01.639 just kud Either way, Kudeta is part of the title. Yes, that's 589 00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:06.000 a pretty good book at for the time. I mean, knowing that the 590 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.440 documents really what right? You did some good interviews with Hamming and all the 591 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:19.719 characters love them that have anyway, So hand it over to you. Guys. 592 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.840 Get to Harry. Absolutely. Look we're gonna get to Harlan. I'm 593 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.000 gonna put you on hold, Jimmy, we'll get back around to you. 594 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:28.480 Though. We got Harlan on the line. We got at least one two 595 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:34.920 other callers, so let's get to them. Let's see Harlan. Hey, 596 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.920 Harlan, before you pitch me on having somebody on about Pipe the Bimbo and 597 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.639 Red again. Uh, it's already in the works. I'm working on it, 598 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.760 so I'm just uh, I have to actually read the book. Uh, 599 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:47.880 And I have to get the book, so as soon as I do 600 00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.280 that, i'll have that on in case that's what you're calling for. How 601 00:46:52.320 --> 00:47:00.599 you doing, Harlan, Well, I was and survivalist and the big truck 602 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:06.000 was cooking a little bit and one of my trees it's got a hole in 603 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.480 the bottom of it. So I've got sweet potato juice running out here on 604 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.880 the floor and down my leg. But you know, I'm a trooper and 605 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:19.719 I'm in here, you know, for everybody tonight? Has everybody else well 606 00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.960 doing? Okay? Did you happen to catch the creeping crub this week or 607 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:28.320 this past few weeks? Did you catch anything? Man, I've had something 608 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.639 since I was about thirteen when I first started smoking, So you know, 609 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.840 it kind of comes and goes all right, but I've not got it. 610 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.880 I mean, you know, me being in different climates and stuff, I 611 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.800 mean, you know, you get choked up somewhere and there. Well, 612 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:47.960 last week I was home and I forgot about the show to probably, I 613 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.840 guess an hour after it was out off and I sent to advance a text. 614 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.679 I say, I forgot about tonight or say it well, yeah, 615 00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.480 actually Vance is on hold right now, so I'll get to him shortly. 616 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.360 But man, look, you had something since you're thirteen. As long as 617 00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.480 it ain't the collap I think you'll be all right, you know what I 618 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.320 mean, that's right, yeah, or the chlamydia or you know some of 619 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.280 these other cottage cheesus diseases I've heard about over time. That's a I called 620 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:22.880 then when you was on Coast to coast and basically, you know, the 621 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.639 segment run out of time, they'll just let you stay on hold, you 622 00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:30.079 know, during one segment and you have to hang up Kyle back. I 623 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.800 want to mention you know that there was probably I was one of the tens 624 00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.639 of thousand Hotel Effect listeners that was there. Than that, I was gonna 625 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:45.400 mention Don's new book, but I didn't have opportunity to, right, I 626 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:51.320 might, I might try to talk to mister law about that book actually, 627 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:57.480 or Don or both. I'm not sure you know the schedules depending so, 628 00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:59.840 but but I want to read it first so I know what the hell's in 629 00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:07.159 it. You know. Well, I've been meaning that to ask Don if 630 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:12.360 there was another place that was available at but about a week ago I went 631 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.400 to order it on Amazon that said somebody's gonna be January or February four. 632 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:20.039 It was available, but I didn't go look anywhere else, and I just 633 00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:24.679 slipped my mind bashed on. Oh wow, Okay, Well, as far 634 00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:29.320 as I know, if some physical copies have gotten out, I don't know 635 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.440 through what, but I'm told that some have gotten out, and there's some 636 00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:37.559 digital copies out there. I don't know who got them or how because I 637 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.920 have not received one yet, but I'm told they are available somewhere, so 638 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.559 I don't know. Yeah, I thought there was, although I mean I've 639 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:51.760 just been lazy folks. You know, you could probably look around and find 640 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:57.840 something. Don had a show last week with his co offer. Is the 641 00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:04.119 guy's name William Male It is William Mattson Lows, an excellent author on the 642 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.440 case, wrote in the Eye of History, was really hoping that he was 643 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:12.639 going to go to Dallas in person. Promised me though, that if I 644 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.679 go back next year, that that he will next year go uh if just 645 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:21.360 to meet meet up with me there in Dallas. So I'm more than happy 646 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:25.360 to figure that one out. I've never actually shook mister Law's hand. You 647 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:31.639 know, I like him though I've always appreciated his work. What how did 648 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:35.440 that go? I missed last week? Showman. Did you have a good 649 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.480 trip with you guys? You know? Well? To catch you up? 650 00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.920 Yeah, to catch you up. I thought the conference was really great. 651 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:46.960 You know, we're gonna let some other people talk about it coming up, 652 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:52.239 be Pete. We we we had a little fun with how bad the hotel 653 00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.559 was. But the hotel is not the conference. The conference was was very 654 00:50:55.639 --> 00:51:00.639 good. The hotel was not so good. But and I was busy as 655 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:04.719 hell. I didn't get to do that much. I went to Dealey Plaza 656 00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.639 for about forty five minutes. I ate at Campezes once, and then I 657 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:15.599 don't think I really left the hotel, Be Pete did. I me? 658 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:21.199 Pete might be talking to his mute button. But you know, I know 659 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.199 that I didn't leave the hotel much outside of our trek to seven to eleven 660 00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.000 in the middle of the night, where I think both of us were worse 661 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.840 for wear by the time we got back. But I mean between that forty 662 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:37.239 five minutes from Dalely Plaza and a trip to Campezies once on Thursday night, 663 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.679 when we got there, I didn't really leave the hotel. I pretty much 664 00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.440 had my foot nailed to the floor because being MC wasn't just announcing people. 665 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.519 There was a lot of other work, which I happily did, and we 666 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.679 kept the conference running and it was really good. I thought we had some 667 00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:59.760 technical difficulties, some troubles here and there. People got a little nasty with 668 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.800 me and there, and one jerk was coughing on us toward the end. 669 00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.960 Thanks, And me and BPTE had both been sick ever since. But of 670 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.800 course he thinks I'm being a worst about it, and he's much a tougher 671 00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:15.440 guy than me. So for the past ten days, I've been sick real 672 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:20.039 bad, you know. So I have not put out shows at all, 673 00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.280 and really you haven't gone live since last Friday. But we're going to change 674 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:30.320 that this week, so you know, there you go. Still my throat 675 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.679 is thrashed. Be Pete, you're back with me yet? Yeah? Okay, 676 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.280 So I was saying, I don't think I left the hotel room, 677 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.679 or not the hotel room. I don't think I left the hotel outside of 678 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.840 Campezes seven to eleven and forty five minutes to Daily Plaza. I think I 679 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:52.440 didn't leave outside of that. Is that about right? Yeah, because Campezes 680 00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:57.360 was the first night we got there, so the conference hadn't started yet once 681 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.519 it started Friday morning. Yeah, you didn't leave that hotel. Well, 682 00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:02.159 they just think it was you had to take with coast to coast two Saturday 683 00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:05.679 night, so you know, the only free time you would have had, 684 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.719 you know, taking a nap before you stayed up for the radio. So 685 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:14.800 yeah, you were very limited in Harlan tried to call in during that. 686 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:16.880 I really wish you would have gotten on there because there were some wacky people 687 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.000 and I mean it's tough going in between those casuals. By the way, 688 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:24.280 Harlan, did you hear how tight that was in between the commercials where it 689 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:29.639 was like I had almost no time to answer most of what was being thrown 690 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:34.199 at me. Did you get that sense? Yeah? Yeah, well it's 691 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.840 like I was. I believe it was advance. I told somebody else I 692 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.119 was talking too. It was luck you didn't have enough time to get kicked 693 00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:44.119 in gear, you know, to get in the chuck. So you know 694 00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:49.480 what I mean, because it may usually a lot of this stuff once you 695 00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.800 get to talking about it, you're just bomb bound back. You just keep 696 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.920 letting it roll, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and it did 697 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.119 sing like you was kind of constraint then time, you know, you you 698 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:00.760 got to the college. I mean the lady, the producer, you know, 699 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:07.000 she was real nice. That put me in line. I was the 700 00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.320 next one to go on before the last one. But you know, I 701 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:14.480 guess we're getting so close to the hour. They was trying to give you 702 00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:19.079 enough time to kind of recap or throw out whatever you hadn't mentioned before. 703 00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.760 But yeah, I could you know tell that you just did. You wouldn't 704 00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.440 hardily, you know, had enough opportunity to get in your zone on your 705 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.480 issues. You know what I'm saying. I could tell you was kind of 706 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:36.159 you know, trying to just think about what to say quick as you could 707 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.599 say it. I guess does that makes sense? Yeah? I just hope 708 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.320 that, you know, for you know, I hope that people got some 709 00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.679 information out of it, because I tried to pack, you know, some 710 00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.960 really good stuff into each piece as quickly as I could. And again I 711 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.719 had no warning or script on it. Uh. And he sort of knocked 712 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:57.480 me off balance with the personal stuff right away. Uh. And I just 713 00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:00.800 said all right, fine, you know, let's go. But yeah, 714 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:05.280 I mean I was trying really to answer everything I could. I know, 715 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.800 the one caller dropped that Judy Baker thing on me and they went to break, 716 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:14.000 and I was like, oh crap. I was mad about that, 717 00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:16.599 And I think when I came back from break, I said, yeah, 718 00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:21.480 okay, before we go anywhere else, first of all, yeah, Judy 719 00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:27.480 bang okay, next, you know, so I think I might overstep my 720 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.119 bounds there and kind of you know, like you know, just didn't even 721 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.039 answer what he was saying. Right that. I was like, yeah, 722 00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:37.400 I got to address Judith Baker before we go any further because the caller brought 723 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.760 it up. But so I did that, and I think I mentioned Walt's 724 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:49.719 book on there too, right, Yeah, Well one most thing before I 725 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.199 forget about it. Has anybody else I've not had a chance so far, 726 00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:59.559 because I saw something that you'd have to be on a Foxy streaming platform to 727 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:05.639 out the debate between the Santas and newsm I was just wondering maybe if anybody 728 00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.719 else would sew any of that yet from last night or the other night or 729 00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:13.480 VP you know, saw anything about it. Oh, did the Santas and 730 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:20.599 Newsom have a debate separately. Do some I would have missed it. Yea, 731 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:29.800 from what he sometime back as a red state versus blue state debate and 732 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:35.679 from what I saw De Santa's pretty much has now created an open field for 733 00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.400 the Democratic primary because he knocked knew some right out of the park. I 734 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:43.679 mean, he just nailed him on everything. And when he reproduced the poop 735 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:50.440 map of San Francisco, it was all, well did that. Eventually Newsom's 736 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.519 life came in and said, no, that's it, we can't go, 737 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.480 and they were going to go longer she came into it. The town said 738 00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.559 no, that's it. We've got another, you know, arrangement to another 739 00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:01.960 meeting that we've got to get too, So we're quitting right now. Nice. 740 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:05.840 Yeah, he got his, but do them well. You know what 741 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.880 what I will do is review that for next week because I guarantee it'll be 742 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.800 of interest. I think it's uh, you know, there's been some legal 743 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.360 uh you know, rulings also on the Trump case. There's been a bunch 744 00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:21.480 of things gone on this week, but I'm only vaguely aware of that. 745 00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:27.199 I don't know what has happened, uh, just of the Trump Kates in 746 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:32.239 New York with Leticia James. During the prosecution, they had they had a 747 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:37.000 guy from the deutsch Bank come in and test five and it was supposed to 748 00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:40.920 be for the prosecution. But he gets up there and explains that, uh, 749 00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.960 yeah, it's not you know, it's not uncommon that a bank would 750 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:51.199 reduce a customer's assets by fifty percent to still approve alone, which is what 751 00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.679 they did for Trump. Uh he said, you know, yeah, Trump 752 00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:59.519 gave us his opinion of his value. We set our own value. We 753 00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.400 basically reduced his assets by fifty percent, but we still gave him the loan 754 00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:07.480 because he qualified. Right, I'm gonna put it's just a whole hole in 755 00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.079 her case. Right, I'm gonna put Harlan on hold for a minute. 756 00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:13.719 We're gonna go over to Vance in a minute. But look, what I 757 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:19.639 have contended about this all along is that it's not an unusual thing that Trump 758 00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:22.599 got. Look, if you're of a certain kind of rich guy, this 759 00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:28.320 is my complaint. If you're at a certain level, you can be millions 760 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.840 of dollars in debt. Now, if you or I try that VP, 761 00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:35.840 we ain't gonna have it happen. Right, But you get to a certain 762 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:39.000 privileged position in the banking world, in the business world. Yeah, you 763 00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:44.840 can lose millions of dollars. You can blow fortunes and they'll give you loans 764 00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.320 to cover it. You can screw up your loans, they'll give your loans 765 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:52.280 to cover it. Now you or I bounce a car note and we might 766 00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:55.199 not get a credit card for five years. You know. These guys though, 767 00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:58.920 it's like the more they lose, it seems like, well, the 768 00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.000 more the bank kind of shovels on to him for credit. And that's just 769 00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.440 the way of the world. If you're a rich guy, you get to 770 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.719 do this, right. Yeah, it's just representative of everything else. There's 771 00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:12.840 a you know, a two to at least a two tion system when it 772 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:15.480 comes to banking. If you're big enough, it doesn't matter what your losses 773 00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:20.079 are, as long as your assets are a certain amount on a balance sheet. 774 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.960 Don't give well, I'll give you, yeah, better rates and you 775 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.400 get a average car loans. So yeah, it goes on all the time. 776 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.559 I mean, that's what banking has been since banking has been around. 777 00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:32.280 The more money you got, the more money you can get. Right, 778 00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:37.400 the faceless thing I can give you a faceless example. You can't take this 779 00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:42.280 personally. Ready. Netflix lost money for about, I don't know, a 780 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.440 decade. Basically, they were losing money year after year, millions of dollars, 781 00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:52.039 millions of dollars. Did their stock price drop No? Did the value 782 00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.119 of the company drop? No? And yet they were a losing entity. 783 00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:58.400 Now, if you try and run a corner store, okay, at a 784 00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:02.960 thirty thousand dollars a year, you ain't gonna stay in business. Your texta 785 01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:09.039 gonna look at Amazon? How lane? Did Amazon show a negative on the 786 01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:14.400 profit sheets for what fifteen years? Yeah? Before they finally turned around and 787 01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:20.440 started making bazillions. So yeah, you know, it's just when Trump goes 788 01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.280 to the bank. It's not like you and me walking into the bank. 789 01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:27.559 So it's a totally whole different level. Right, So the idea is that, 790 01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.280 according to the way you and I have to do business, yeah, 791 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:34.760 he's getting away with murder. We couldn't possibly go near that. You know, 792 01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:38.880 if you or I report an asset incorrectly, even to an insurance company, 793 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:43.679 and we have a fire in our house and we want our TV replaced, 794 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.800 okay, and they find out somehow that we told them we got you 795 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:52.239 know, a five thousand dollars plasma TV as opposed to a you know, 796 01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:57.159 a three hundred dollars black light special over at freaking Walmart, right, And 797 01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:00.360 we try and push that through on the insurance to get them to cut check 798 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:04.440 or replace the cheaper TV with the you know what, we're going to get 799 01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:08.039 in trouble. A guy like Trump can do that throughout a whole hotel and 800 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:12.519 it's not an issue. It's a slide rule issue, that's it. You 801 01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.280 know, he could he could ask for the whole hotels TVs to be replaced 802 01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:20.000 because of a power surge, and the insurance company won't bat an eye even 803 01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:23.280 if they catch it. You or I tried to do that with one electronic 804 01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:28.960 and you know they'll be threatening us with charges dropping our insurance, telling us 805 01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:30.800 they're not going to pay for anything else. You know, screw you in 806 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:36.239 your house. You lied on the form. Well, it's a long averages 807 01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:38.679 too. You know you're going to pay a whole lot higher premiums on an 808 01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:45.000 insurance policy covering a thirteen story hotel as opposed to my residential unit where you 809 01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:49.159 know, most people don't have a kissing or a window that's saw it out 810 01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:52.760 of So yeah's you're talking two different things. You know, if I've got 811 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:54.760 the assets, if they look at a balance sheet, they see the assets, 812 01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:59.880 they're going away, Okay, can I make this loan and not getting 813 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:01.960 the guys paid us back on everything else, So we'll go ahead write the 814 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:06.199 loan. I mean, postman dealing with Deutsche Bank for quite some time, 815 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:09.480 and it's because Deutscher Bank will on his loans. That's why he goes there, 816 01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.519 and he knows he can do businesses them and they'll back him even if 817 01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:16.639 he blows it, even if he doesn't make your payments exactly. We'll think 818 01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:22.079 about right. But the thing about this prosecution is the state is going after 819 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:30.280 him to say you are profiting somehow illegally. But there's no victim in this. 820 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:35.440 In this civil suit, they just want the two hundred and fifty million 821 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:39.320 dollars for themselves. They're not compensating any victims by going after the two hundred 822 01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:44.400 and fifty mili, which is part of the case. Now. So you 823 01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:46.800 know, you bring in somebody to testify and guy says, hey, you 824 01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:51.159 know this isn't fought. This goes on every day. Banks do it every 825 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.440 day. We knew what he's put on his sheet was his opinion, and 826 01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:58.800 he said, you know, Trump's values were his opinion. It's our job 827 01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:01.400 to come up with our own opinion, and based off that opinion is what 828 01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:05.679 we do to decide where we're going to float the loan when they did. 829 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:08.480 It happens every day, not just with Trump. Like you said, Netflix, 830 01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:14.719 Amazon was in the hole for years and years and years. Other companies 831 01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:16.760 have been on the verge of bankruptcy and been able to get loans to float 832 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:22.320 their business for another year before they eventually claimed bankruptcy. Happens on time, 833 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.440 Okay, So it's going to be interesting to see how this case goes from 834 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:29.280 being on out because it was so bad that Lachiefu James had to issue a 835 01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:34.599 statement after the testimony to try to imply, hey, you know this doesn't 836 01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.079 affect our case at all. Well, I can't wait, yeah, no, 837 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:42.039 And I can't wait to see what happens when people actually burst the Twitter 838 01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.800 x bubble, cause you know that multi billion dollar deal. I guarantee you 839 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:52.519 that platform is not near worth what it was that was forked out for it. 840 01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:54.039 Is anybody going to get any of that money back? I doubt it 841 01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:59.920 and musk just like Trump is using a lot of other people's money when he 842 01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:03.280 does this, so you know it's going to be a lot of people. 843 01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:09.199 See OPM has funded the business world now for the past, you know, 844 01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:13.880 bazillion years. You always I mean that that was the mean back during the 845 01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.920 house flipping market. How to make money off real estate using OPM all the 846 01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:20.559 people's money? You got it. It's it's way away. I why should 847 01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:24.800 I risk morel if I can risk yours? Exactly. So with that, 848 01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.280 we got Advance on the line too. So let's get over to him and 849 01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:30.239 see what he wants to throw on the table. I dare say it'll be 850 01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.440 something different. Uh, you know, but I've been sick this week. 851 01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:36.800 Vance next week, though, we're going to get rolling full steam. I 852 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:41.960 wanted to do it last week. But whatever the hell this flu was, 853 01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:45.360 and not the rona, I'm sure, although I have reports of people having 854 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.599 caught the rona at the conference. I got to check with creative accidents. 855 01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.599 See if he's okay. Actually I didn't ask him if he was sick. 856 01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:56.400 I bet you he's not. Be Pete, what do you think? I 857 01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:00.719 bet you didn't get it? He didn't hang around long enough to catch it. 858 01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:04.400 He's here and gone off to another event. So you know, I'd 859 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:08.559 be curious to know too. Oh quick, little tidbit before you get to 860 01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:17.039 Vance was able to use the Heimlich maneuver on Jody Ernst to save her while 861 01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.599 she was choking on her food. You know, interesting little thing. We 862 01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:24.280 learn how to do these things and we think, ah, I've never used 863 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:29.559 this, and here we have an actual physician sitting down to eat and having 864 01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:32.800 to perform a Heimlink maneuver on one of his coworkers. I use, I 865 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.679 mean I did not hear about that either. See, I've been out of 866 01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:39.920 the loop this week. Vance, What do you got on your mind this 867 01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.639 week? Though? I'm sure it doesn't ran Paul in the Heimlich maneuver? 868 01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:49.239 But maybe what do you got There's a lot of people could try to use 869 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:57.119 a good Heimlich maneuver. One thing, one thing before I forget is, 870 01:05:57.239 --> 01:06:01.719 uh, we never got the answer to these riddle last two weeks ago or 871 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.280 whatever it was about what's more important than life? For what? I can't 872 01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:12.079 even remember now exactly exactly? Okay, let's definitively before you go any further, 873 01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:15.559 hold on, let me put Jimmy on the line and let him go 874 01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:19.239 back over his riddle and give the correct answer. I think we did get 875 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:23.440 to it, but let's make sure and make sure that we got it right. 876 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:28.760 I don't want to misquote Jimmy James after all. So Jimmy, you're 877 01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.559 back on the line. Jimmy, and uh that riddle that you gave us, 878 01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:34.280 right? Do you remember the riddle exactly? And could you give us 879 01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:43.280 the answer? Now? Okay, let's see what's more important than money? 880 01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:54.480 Less important than that? Yes, guys gave who let's freedom? And uh 881 01:06:55.800 --> 01:07:08.480 one was yes? So whattanding yes? Prom be more than one answer? 882 01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:18.400 The absolute your honor? All right, that is the answer from Jimmy James. 883 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:23.719 But your honor? I think freedom is an acceptable answer though, Jimmy, 884 01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:27.360 But but honor is the one you were looking for. So that's the 885 01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:32.079 correct answer to the Jimmy James version of that riddle. Oh, it would 886 01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:36.960 be hard to be sure. What did you do with freedom if you're dead? 887 01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:43.920 Dang? That's it's well, there is what's good being alive? That 888 01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:47.880 she ain't free? There you go, right, there's the paradox. Uh 889 01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:55.199 so it depends I guess it depends if you're an a Gelvin cage tree. 890 01:07:55.559 --> 01:08:02.719 I'm a little smaller, fair enough, Jimmy pre range deep philosophical thought, 891 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:10.320 just be free range. Sorry good, I was just going to say it 892 01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:14.599 would just be free range slaves. You know. There you go, and 893 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:18.399 I would argue Jimmy just just again, I accept it's the Jimmy James riddle. 894 01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.600 So the Jimmy James answer is as it is. It is your honor. 895 01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:27.920 But to me, indeed death could be equal to freedom as well, 896 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.720 depending on your circumstance. So you know that's just me and there's my dark 897 01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:35.399 philosophy. So there you go, Mance, you got the answer. Finally, 898 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:39.439 it is your honor. That is the thing he was looking for. 899 01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:46.279 Well, my answer will be freedom. You stand by your answer as well. 900 01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.800 It could be integrity, you know. Yeah, there's you know, 901 01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:56.199 plenty of ways you could, you know, correctly, logically or whatever you 902 01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:59.920 know, answer that question. But you know, I'll stick with freedom. 903 01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.920 And like I said last week, I don't want this show to anymore, 904 01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:06.119 not on Fridays anyway, to be about my opinion any longer. So I 905 01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:10.760 want all of you guys to express yourselves and new people to come on and 906 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.439 express themselves as well. That's what I want. So you know, by 907 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:17.239 all means, you know, contradict me, point out what it is you 908 01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:21.880 want to point out, each of you do it your way, because that's 909 01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:26.960 what this is about. Okay, So anyway, go ahead, Vancey. 910 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:29.239 You you got to the riddle, what else did you have on your mind? 911 01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:38.840 Well, I guess along that line of the freedom aspect, I'd be 912 01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:45.760 interested to hear Jelle's opinions on my kind of one of my biggest kind of 913 01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:48.720 concerns right now is that you know, what, what do you I suppose 914 01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:53.960 it happened, is between now and the election? You know that there is 915 01:09:54.000 --> 01:10:00.680 an organized terrorist attack for Mohammas, you know, or Iranian terrorist organization that's 916 01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:05.920 you know, snuck across the border that was conveniently open and all that. 917 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:11.560 You know, I think that would affect the dynamic of what's going on. 918 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.199 Well, I'll leave that to others to answer. A matter of fact, 919 01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:18.399 I'd like to first go to be Pete on that. How do you think 920 01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:25.960 a you know, a terrorist attack between now and selection time might affect the 921 01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:31.359 dynamics and the selection? Would that be the correct question? Bance? Well, 922 01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:34.920 maybe it directly, you could not even have an election if we get 923 01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:39.880 put on martial law. Well, that would be one way the selection process 924 01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:43.640 would be affected, right, So okay, be Pete, what are your 925 01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:47.039 thoughts on that. Do you think that there could possibly be a terrorist attack 926 01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:55.319 in between now and November of twenty four that could affect that big selection time? 927 01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:00.399 Yeah, it's I think it's highly possible that one could happen in the 928 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:05.399 next year. But I think if we do have one that hits, you 929 01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:11.199 can forget Biden or any Democrats' chances in the election. If something would happen, 930 01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:14.760 Let's say six months from now, something happens, we're getting into the 931 01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.680 we're in the middle of the primary grounds, and we're getting ready to go 932 01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:23.720 to conventions. I'm gonna tell you, now, we get hit with something, 933 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:27.640 you can forget a Democrat getting elected. It's not gonna help them one 934 01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:31.079 bit. Biden has already been over backwards to give as much money as aganned 935 01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:36.319 iron and they're sitting there funding everybody that's creating turmoil in the Middle East and 936 01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:42.720 other places. So now I think if anything would help bring might help bring 937 01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:47.479 Trump in, although taking consideration, Trump might not be there he might have 938 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.560 been found guilty of something and knocked off the ballot in a few places. 939 01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.880 It's going to change a lot of things. But if we get hit, 940 01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.279 I guarantee you Biden's not going to respond to do anything about it. We're 941 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:02.960 just gonna have to suck it up, and then we'll have a Republican come 942 01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.680 in and then it'll be kind of like two thousand and one. Well, 943 01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:10.359 okay, look what they did to us, Let's go get them, and 944 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:14.600 we dive right back into something, which is strange when you consider that Trump 945 01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:17.600 was the only one who didn't have us really at war or get us into 946 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:21.439 anything new while he was in there. Of course, he pulled the Nixon 947 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:25.359 and Chip said he was going to get us out. He was waiting for 948 01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:30.199 his next term to do that, and unfortunately he lost. So, yeah, 949 01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:33.319 it's going to create a big difference in the Democrat's chances to get elected. 950 01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:36.840 I think. Other than that, I don't think it's going to have 951 01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:40.399 much effect. It's going to take off a lot of the public and they're 952 01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:43.159 going to shake their head and say, I told you so. But we 953 01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:46.039 haven't done a damn thing to fix anything, you know, with the board 954 01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:50.119 that's causing these problems in the past. How many fifty years? When was 955 01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:55.319 the amnesty back in the seventies. We haven't done anything since then for us, 956 01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:59.680 for it is not going to get fit Reagan when he first went in, 957 01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:00.880 I think, good, an amnesty type thing, and then it you 958 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:04.279 know, it's still amounted to nothing. Let's let's see what each of the 959 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:08.039 other callers thinks about this. I put Vance on hold, but I think 960 01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:12.359 this is a great question to pass around. So let's go to Harlan and 961 01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:15.880 you know, Harlan, what do you think about the idea of some sort 962 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:20.960 of terrorist attack coming in and affecting the selection process, you know, in 963 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:28.159 November? What what's what's your thoughts on that? Well, I'm you know, 964 01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:32.920 I'm pretty much on page with BP. He's you know, laid out 965 01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:35.439 about high half of what I was going to say, so I don't have 966 01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:41.239 to repeat it. But far as who that he would help in the election 967 01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:45.680 goes on the Republican side, I think there's still some variables there. I 968 01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:50.560 think after we see the first primaries, we're going to see how strong you 969 01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:56.399 know, that chosen one he is, and we're going to see, you 970 01:13:56.439 --> 01:14:00.479 know, how strong the destantus is because you know, oath of their supporters 971 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:06.840 on Twitter is you know, making the best case both sides accusing the other 972 01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:12.279 side of propaganda, line polls and blah blah blah. But I think it 973 01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:17.880 would number one. It would be according to when it happened before, during 974 01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:24.960 or after the primaries, before or after, you know, both set the 975 01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.640 nominations was over with. I think that would have a lot of bearing on 976 01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:33.560 it. But I also think one of the reasons why I don't believe that 977 01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:39.880 that is that has a high likelihood of happening, is because there's so many 978 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:44.319 people as talked about it, kind of expecting it, you know what I'm 979 01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:48.079 saying, And I'm not saying that it couldn't happen. But if this had 980 01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:53.000 been ten years ago, I think if that was going to happen, we'd 981 01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:58.439 already seen it. Because you know, the seastar hits over with now a 982 01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:03.520 lot of this stuff is just sabad on that Yahoo, so they've had to 983 01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:08.960 kind of peel back off, you know, some of the response towards the 984 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:13.960 just the average, everyday average, you know Palestinian, That's kind of about 985 01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.079 where I'm at. But you know, I sure hope that doesn't happen, 986 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:20.840 because then we're gonna go right back to you know, war on terror, 987 01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:27.800 blah blah blah, brown paper, bad mister Muslims. And then you're gonna 988 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:30.159 have a crowd of people, you know, screaming hiss the Jews around the 989 01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:34.560 world, blah blah blah, and that's just gonna amp all that stuff like 990 01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:38.760 that. It now, I hear you, Okay, So I'm gonna put 991 01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:42.239 you on hold, and I'm gonna turn to the guy who's probably gonna be 992 01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:45.359 the most fiery on this, and again, Jimmy, I want you to 993 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:48.760 keep in mind, I'm not saying that anything about this yet. I've said 994 01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:54.239 nothing. I'm just asking the question Advance put to us here, which is, 995 01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:57.800 you know, how do you think that that could affect the twenty twenty 996 01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:01.359 four selection if this occur. I'm not even talking about whether it's organic, 997 01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:08.600 or it's staged, or it's one side or the other, or it's something 998 01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:14.359 entirely new, you know, new sort of al Qaeda has re emerged, 999 01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:17.119 who knows. I didn't go into any of those details. I just put 1000 01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:20.800 the question the same way Vance did, what would happen if that happens in 1001 01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:26.920 between now and then, and Harlan says there's nuanced because of whether it happens 1002 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:32.720 during the primaries after et cetera, et cetera. But for your particular thoughts, 1003 01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.479 let me see you. Where's Jimmy. There he is, Jimmy James, 1004 01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:39.920 and we have another caller. I'm gonna get to next, So Jimmy, 1005 01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:47.840 go ahead. I want to get to this martial law thing, the 1006 01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:56.640 toys. I'm always hearing people say that Donald Troup or Joe Biden or schmuckle 1007 01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:00.600 Telly or whoever's gonna Oh, they're gonna declare my r slong. Well it's 1008 01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:05.439 not that damn easy. I'm gonna explain the process in a minute. Yeah, 1009 01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:13.520 all right, now I'm the Trump thing, uh or terrorists? Thanks 1010 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:23.880 for what the schmuck o Kelly, thanks for that good I wasn't either going 1011 01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:27.920 for your name. I don't know how that came out it did I do? 1012 01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:32.960 I often do they smug Otelly, I've been saying it for wait before 1013 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:41.319 I knew you, though, Oh thanks, I had nothing to do with 1014 01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:45.239 you even in the nineties. I don't know how it started. I think 1015 01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:53.159 we're watching some movie and I asked the men, Okay, who's the blah 1016 01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:57.239 blah the one to see him h And they said some command And I said, 1017 01:17:57.279 --> 01:18:01.960 now, wasn't no commander schmuck at tell it was a damn patty officer, 1018 01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:12.039 a mechanic bah blah blah, Marvin J. Shields one anlyst uh where 1019 01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:15.920 we uh? Yeah, you were talking about this martial law and you said 1020 01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:18.279 I'll get to that in a minute about how hard that is to do, 1021 01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:26.680 but go ahead, okay, Yeah, Well, obviously if some anything bad 1022 01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:31.840 happens, usually the buck stops here at the top man, that's the correct 1023 01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:36.359 answer. A cat that goes down at the ship, hit the spaghetti, 1024 01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:44.880 hits the fan. You know, eleven million bill eagal alien friends roaming about 1025 01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:48.239 from all four corners of the world. I say that it's highly likely we 1026 01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:54.600 will have some kind of some kind of attack from one of some of these 1027 01:18:54.720 --> 01:19:01.560 characters. As far as people always so sick of hearing that word martial law, 1028 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:06.760 martial law. Now there won't be no martial of law unless first the 1029 01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:12.680 first we have to be in a state of war. Congress will have had 1030 01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:18.039 to have declared a state of war, and then the president can only first 1031 01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:24.119 there has to be good reasons to have martial law unless the war's happening here 1032 01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:29.720 in our like the Civil Wars the last time this happened. And even then 1033 01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:32.960 he has to go to Congress. But Lincoln didn't do it. I know 1034 01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:41.479 that is because the Confederate Army was literally holding half of Congress behind enemy lines. 1035 01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:45.560 So he just had to do it. And as soon as the Congress 1036 01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:50.640 did finally meet, they did vote and make it legal. Okay, Okay, 1037 01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:54.399 I guess that's what they got to say. Fair enough. All right, 1038 01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:58.560 So we got a new wireless caller and they're unidentified, so let's see 1039 01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:00.880 what they have to say about this. The question caller, by the way, 1040 01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:04.800 before I take you off hold, is what are your thoughts on the 1041 01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:09.960 possibility of some sort of terrorist attack due to the tensions that are going on 1042 01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:15.319 and our circumstance at the moment happening in between now and the selection in twenty 1043 01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:19.359 twenty four. How will it affect that and what effect might it have? 1044 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:24.399 That is the whole of the question the Advance posed to all of us. 1045 01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:29.960 So first of all, please identify yourself and then tell us what your thoughts 1046 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:36.000 are on that question. Yeah, this is Wilson. I think I'm actually 1047 01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:43.680 curious what would the situation with the cottage cheese disease be under Marshall Watt. 1048 01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:46.880 Wow, that's a really good question. Cottage cheese disease. I think that 1049 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:53.359 was brought up by Harlan. Yeah, okay, well maybe we should turn 1050 01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:56.840 to Harlan and ask him about that. I'll put you on hold there, 1051 01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:02.159 hold on, wireless caller. Let's see Harlan. What would be the cottage 1052 01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:10.760 cheese disease situation under martial law. I don't know about under martal law. 1053 01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:13.359 I mean, you know, and I've heard some stories, you know how 1054 01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:16.399 it is like, you know, underclothes and you know, drawers and tinies 1055 01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:21.720 if you will. I'd heard some years ago a friend of mine was talking 1056 01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:30.039 about his ex wife before last had actually caught clamydia off her ex husband's toilet 1057 01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:33.199 file. She was there using the bathroom even though he lived, you know, 1058 01:21:33.239 --> 01:21:36.319 an hour and a half away, and nobody can figure out what she's 1059 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:41.760 doing her. But anyway, he said that it looked like cottage cheese. 1060 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:46.399 Okay, rounding down at them, okay, under Marshall law, you know, 1061 01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:49.880 they may you know, go back to Sarah Karnam, I don't know, 1062 01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:54.279 no problem, Harlan. I'm putting you back on hold and we'll go 1063 01:21:54.359 --> 01:21:58.720 back to the wireless caller. Since apparently Harlan has now become our from under 1064 01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:02.760 cheese expert, I don't know how that happened. But anyway, wireless caller, 1065 01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:08.159 anything else that you'd like to add? All you? Yeah, No, 1066 01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:12.000 that was a great that was a great answer. No, I was 1067 01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:16.880 genuinely curious about that. And yeah, I think we're ripe for another terrorist 1068 01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:24.159 attack any moment. Okay, would that be due to the illegals or would 1069 01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:26.960 that be just because of the tensions in the world. And do you think 1070 01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:30.159 it would have an effect on the twenty twenty four selection? Is really what 1071 01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:36.800 Vance was asking. I think it would totally be in line with the selection 1072 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:43.600 process, and that's why it would happen at all. So there we go. 1073 01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:45.680 I'm going to put you back on hold and go over to Vance and 1074 01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:49.880 let's see if I can do this quickly enough. So, Vance, what 1075 01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:59.960 do you think of the answers that went around the horn there? I shouldn't 1076 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:04.680 see all those points of view, and you know, I guess I'm I'm 1077 01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:10.159 more cynical about it like the last the color just mentioned, you know that 1078 01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:14.640 in my mind it would be you know, part of the the I mean, 1079 01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:16.600 let me just back up and let it all on the nine. You 1080 01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:21.720 know, I believe the the Harmos attacks on you know whatever seven. You 1081 01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:25.800 know, I think that was a false flag. Okay, so you know 1082 01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:30.600 that that that's just like they say, Israel's nine to eleven the false flag, 1083 01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:36.239 just like ours and both of them and uh to whatever degree you know. 1084 01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:41.920 Uh So, so that's my ideal is like, you know that when 1085 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:45.600 I add up artists, you know, here the border has been open and 1086 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.319 and everybody's doing anything about it, and that you know, all this pasturing 1087 01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:51.960 and all the you know, story about you know, nobody knows who these 1088 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:57.439 people are and they're all terraces, and you know, lately, the you 1089 01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:02.760 know, in the recent past, the focus shifted to a big percentage of 1090 01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:06.359 these people are military aged men, you know, single men. And then 1091 01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:11.159 then after the last attack, well it's terrorists, you know, known terrorists 1092 01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:14.680 you know, been you know allowed to cross the border. So it just 1093 01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.079 seems like a perfect setup for me to have you know, a terrorist attack 1094 01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:20.640 you know, kick off over here, and you know, I don't remember 1095 01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:28.279 the last time that Congress you know, uh, voted to go to any 1096 01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:30.600 state of war that we've been in since nine eleven, I don't think Congress 1097 01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:34.720 voted to you know, start the war on terror, which is still ongoing, 1098 01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:41.640 and possibly you know, we're still under whatever special authority that they had 1099 01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.600 you know then, which we still are because they keep renew in that Act 1100 01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.079 and all that. So that's what I'm saying. Just seems that it seems 1101 01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:50.199 like that makes a whole lot more sense about why that was happening. And 1102 01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:55.239 so, you know, the economies, you know, in the biggest bubble 1103 01:24:55.319 --> 01:24:59.039 ever and could you know, crashing any time, so you know, terrorist 1104 01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:01.399 attack you can go ahead and crash the economy, you know, so that 1105 01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.680 you're you know, we got to ground everybody up with so many you know, 1106 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:09.079 billions of people, so we got to shut everything down and start going 1107 01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:13.760 door to door and picking up illegals and deporting them and putting them in camps. 1108 01:25:14.279 --> 01:25:16.119 I'm sorry, you know, That's that's the way my mind goes. 1109 01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:19.680 I hope that makes sense. Well, I hope that Look, I see 1110 01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:23.680 that's the way your mind goes. But at the same time, I'm hoping 1111 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:27.880 you're wrong, you know, because I don't want to. I don't want 1112 01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:30.239 to live through that crap that you're describing. But look, I'm gonna put 1113 01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:34.680 you on hold again and we're gonna take one more break because I can barely 1114 01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:39.359 freaking breathe. And uh I want my co host to sort of take over 1115 01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:43.560 in the next segment here a bit because he is due to do so, 1116 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.399 and uh I think he should. So what we're gonna do is continue on 1117 01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:51.680 with this discussion. Maybe we should go to a little chaos thing. I'll 1118 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:56.479 talk to be Pete about it during the break, and you guys can stay 1119 01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:59.960 tuned to The Ocelli Effect Live Open Mic, which is here on a Friday 1120 01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:04.359 night and three one nine five two seven five zero one six or Charles dot 1121 01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:08.920 O'Kelly on Skype. 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Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba, but 1135 01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:18.520 knew that there were short range missiles on the island armed with nuclear warheads that 1136 01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:23.560 they could not destroy because they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have 1137 01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:27.840 led to a Third World War, and they wanted to go to war anyway. 1138 01:27:28.119 --> 01:27:30.960 The War State by Michael Swanson reveals why, and we'll show you what 1139 01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:38.359 President Kennedy was up against. For more information, The Warstate dot com going 1140 01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:48.840 to Chuck o'celley. You're Schacho Shelly. You know it is Charco Shelley. 1141 01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:53.880 You are about doing market upon the regular state. The eyes of the world 1142 01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:58.800 are upon you. 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It didn't, did it? But here on 1152 01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:58.000 o'ceelly dot com Radio network things work out a bit better, don't they? 1153 01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:06.520 Much better and understanding about the programs, the programs much clear, getting live 1154 01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:13.199 people into it. They really have a good conversation going much better, so 1155 01:29:13.239 --> 01:29:16.319 much better. Scene. I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and his ninches and 1156 01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:20.720 listen to the o'chelly dot com radio network. I agree. It's straight to 1157 01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:25.920 the point, straight talk, and I like that idea. Oh Chelly dot 1158 01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:30.079 call, go ahead, call it the truth about the DAFA assassination. Right, 1159 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:32.119 Well, what do you want to know? Dy Baker's wild claim Oswald 1160 01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:36.119 girlfriends he knew Ruby and Barry answer weapons. Really, I imagine I could 1161 01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:39.960 claim I have four wheels. It doesn't make me a wagon. But okay, 1162 01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:43.840 Oswald was on the building and trying to prevent the murder of John Kennedy. 1163 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:45.800 Come on now has a real effort on the day of Hay assassination. 1164 01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:51.039 Book into playing. Go to Amazon dot com, enter Judith Baker in her 1165 01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:55.800 own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy of a book where 1166 01:29:55.920 --> 01:30:00.079 Walt Brown utilizes her own words and the known evidence in the cave to get 1167 01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:05.079 at well a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judithbary Baker in her 1168 01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:11.079 own words from the author himself, signed if you request it by contacting doctor 1169 01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:15.000 Brown at k I A S JFK at aol dot com. It's a fun 1170 01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:20.880 book and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims Judith very Baker in 1171 01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:30.800 her own words. Thank you for all the great information. This is James 1172 01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:41.039 Mormon at bordermart dot com if you're listening to the dot com Ochili dot com. 1173 01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:47.000 In Denial Secret Wars with air Strikes and Tanks by Larry Hancock. Secret 1174 01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:53.039 wars became a staple of US covert operations center, still happening today. Larry 1175 01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:58.159 Hancock's book In Denial rips the cover off many of them, using new files. 1176 01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:00.560 It exposes things about the Bay and Page that no one has ever written 1177 01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:05.000 about before. It shows why it really failed and why the United States did 1178 01:31:05.039 --> 01:31:10.520 not learn from it. It also shows why other countries today are doing secret 1179 01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:15.159 operations with more success. This is the book that puts what some want to 1180 01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:19.960 deny into the light. In Denial, Secret Wars with air Strikes and Tanks 1181 01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:27.159 Larry Hancock. For more information, go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com. 1182 01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:30.640 Pick up your copy of In Denial at Amazon dot com. In digital or 1183 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:41.680 physical work? What are the dynamics of a crop? How do you move 1184 01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:44.239 a mob? How do you expect? How do you make them feel? 1185 01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:49.039 Is fun with you? I'll join them first? Join this. When you 1186 01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:51.720 speak to them, speak to them as if you were a member of the 1187 01:31:51.800 --> 01:32:00.880 mow. Speak to them in their language. One. If they talk to 1188 01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:03.800 them of publisher because they are afraid, talk to them of their feet. 1189 01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:08.920 If they are angry, give them object for the anger. Most of the 1190 01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:14.960 all most of is that you'll make this money. An extension of how they 1191 01:32:15.079 --> 01:32:33.319 do devolation through conversation well as about God damn time at wait they wake up 1192 01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:39.600 now. I've been talking about this since nineteen sixty nine, about the corruption, 1193 01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:48.920 the incredible lies deception of the entire superstructure of Western civilization and the incredible 1194 01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:59.159 treason, lunacy, lies deception. It's just amazing how much has been done 1195 01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:06.039 in these one hundred years of the human families. That was Jolden, Maxwell 1196 01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:13.720 and the Cherry Effects. For more pods with Jorden and Chuck searchochelli dot com, 1197 01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:17.520 along with hundreds of other shows and topics as presented by Chuck o'chelly on 1198 01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:36.560 Cherry dot com. Thanks for listener, Uncle. I'll bet you remember the 1199 01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:43.039 time when Benjamin Fulford said that the Asian Secret Society was going to dispatch ninja's 1200 01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:45.239 to take out the illuminati, to change the entire world for the better. 1201 01:33:46.039 --> 01:33:49.960 That ain't never gonna happen. And never did it. Never did they didn't. 1202 01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:55.399 Yeah, because there's a lot of false promises. It's fools. I 1203 01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:59.239 did zoom. We better not say and be polite, but there are no 1204 01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:02.239 false prom is at the dot com radio network. That's exactly it not. 1205 01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:10.479 It's true. The point, why to the point, and this is what 1206 01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:17.399 I like, straight to the Pointylli dot com. Listen now, listen revelation 1207 01:34:17.640 --> 01:34:30.840 through conversation again. Get ready for Chuck O'Kelly. If you've been so many 1208 01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.840 years of supplying the FK researcher specializing in llydat be involvement in multiple assassinations, 1209 01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:41.000 PROBAGAIND and other Google priminal operations in the twenty to twenty first centuries and extreme 1210 01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:54.239 now most aggregated void and in all media. Kelly also joined by my co 1211 01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:58.399 host b Pete and you the callers, along with the people already on the 1212 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:00.760 line. You've got a little bit of time to jump in. Three one 1213 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:05.119 nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call. 1214 01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:09.119 I can hardly breathe, but what the hell we're going to finish this? 1215 01:35:09.239 --> 01:35:13.600 One three one nine five two seven five zero one six or reach out to 1216 01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:16.239 me, Charles todoceelly on Skype, and uh, I will put you on 1217 01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:19.159 my friend list, but I can't guarantee I'll keep you there. You can 1218 01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:24.520 call in internationally that way for free, but I have to call you into 1219 01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:28.319 the show if you reach out to me on Skype otherwise three one nine five 1220 01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:33.039 two seven five zero one six. So b pete, where shall we go 1221 01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:36.680 next? Do you want to drop a headline? Shall we just start opening 1222 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:41.279 up, flushing the lines out and seeing what happens with a little chaos? 1223 01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:44.199 All up to you, my brother? What do you? Uh? My 1224 01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:48.960 travel companion who kept me going there in Dallas despite the fact that we both 1225 01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:55.239 got sick, uh and all that. So uh, where where shall we 1226 01:35:55.319 --> 01:35:58.840 go now? My friend? Well, you know, we've had a couple 1227 01:35:58.840 --> 01:36:02.159 of things happen during the week, you know, headline wise. Of course, 1228 01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:06.399 Santos just got ousted from Congress, which is like the sixth time it's 1229 01:36:06.439 --> 01:36:11.800 ever happened since the beginning. I think three of them were during the Civil 1230 01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:17.960 War because they were actually supporting the South in their efforts, and so it's 1231 01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:20.720 an interesting thing to happen. It was kind of you know, it was 1232 01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:25.600 kind of kind of projected. They voted on it twice before and let it 1233 01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:28.039 drop, and they finally went through with it on this one. But we've 1234 01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:32.840 had a few other things that happened. One very interesting story here, the 1235 01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:42.359 Attorney General of Texas is now seeing Pfizer over their testing of the COVID vaccinations, 1236 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:46.640 in that they're going after them basically on a flaud charge. And I 1237 01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:51.239 was listening to Jesse Case Show the other night and one of the last things 1238 01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:56.199 that he had on there was somebody talking about this. Apparently when they came 1239 01:36:56.319 --> 01:37:01.359 up with the initial vaccine, Piser used this special process of inserting this DNA 1240 01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:10.520 section of COVID and produced this thing, went through the testing and said, 1241 01:37:10.520 --> 01:37:13.960 okay, we've got approval. Now. This was during the emergency phase. 1242 01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:17.239 Then they had to come up with the vaccine to get out to the populace. 1243 01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:21.760 And on that one they only tested this vaccine with two hundred and fifty 1244 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:27.720 people as opposed to the forty thousand people that they claimed had been tested on 1245 01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:32.600 or was the requirement for testing. So the Attorney General has kind of gone 1246 01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:40.640 after them under a fraud charge, false advertisement and then colluding to hide the 1247 01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:45.720 evidence and suppress discussion online about it. I thought that was very interesting. 1248 01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:48.720 I'm going to see how that comes out. Another thing that I came across. 1249 01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:51.880 Okay, I want to ask you before you move on to the next 1250 01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:56.039 thing, though, let me ask you something real fast. I know you 1251 01:37:56.119 --> 01:37:59.039 and I have both been sick this week, so we're talking around our devices 1252 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:03.560 about being sick. Probably have you been getting pummeled with the weird ads that 1253 01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:06.600 are now saying, you know, look, we have an m RNA vaccine, 1254 01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:10.520 and you know they had to change it, so the scientists have been 1255 01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:14.640 working so we have a new Corona vaccine. But also we don't just have 1256 01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:17.680 the m RNA. We now have a protein based vaccine. They're calling it, 1257 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:23.640 uh, which is weird. Uh. Have you been getting those ads 1258 01:38:23.680 --> 01:38:28.560 where they're trying to sell you the vaccination uh on your YouTube or any of 1259 01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:33.239 your What I've seen has been uh, get your get your COVID vaccine, 1260 01:38:33.239 --> 01:38:35.399 when you go to get your flea shot. You can do them both. 1261 01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:39.880 They won't interact with each other, and it's fine to do. We have 1262 01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:42.039 a place for you down here, come get it, of course, And 1263 01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:46.159 of course governments not for the free vaccines anymore. So yes, they're they're 1264 01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:51.479 pushing to sell them. It's big business. You look at how much money 1265 01:38:51.479 --> 01:38:54.640 they've made so far on it, So yeah, they've got it. They've 1266 01:38:54.680 --> 01:38:57.920 got to push it. Otherwise they're losing a lot of money produced to this 1267 01:38:57.960 --> 01:39:01.520 stuff and it's sitting on a shelf of fortune. The populace is not really 1268 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:06.720 conducive to taking vaccines after all the craft they've been handed over the first one, 1269 01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:11.119 so they kind of created their own problem. Should we go to that 1270 01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:16.239 seeing more of a get your COVID shot just like your flu shot, as 1271 01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:20.640 if this thing has already been mainstream to the point that they expect people to 1272 01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:25.800 do it just because the government says do it right. And again, Friday 1273 01:39:25.880 --> 01:39:29.560 Night's no longer about my opinions. So should we go to the callers about 1274 01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:34.800 the vaccination situation and the lawsuit in Texas or should we add something else to 1275 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:40.239 you, well, just another headline on that way. The Navy, there's 1276 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:45.359 a whistle blow in the US Navy that has exposed a study that they've done, 1277 01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:51.319 so there's a nine hundred and thirty seven percent surge in heart failure among 1278 01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:56.119 all of their vaccinated pilots. You know, and that was an issue in 1279 01:39:56.159 --> 01:40:01.439 the military when they were mandated to get it forward get kicked out. We've 1280 01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:05.960 seen lawsuits where the government has been held accountable that says, no, you 1281 01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:10.720 shouldn't fired these people and you ought to put them back on with back pay. 1282 01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:14.439 That's fighting its way to the courts. I mean, the decision has 1283 01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:17.960 been made. The government strewed up and firing people over getting or not getting 1284 01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:24.640 the vaccine because they didn't honor the exemptions that they said they would so these 1285 01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:27.920 people. So it's going to be interesting. You know, we've got a 1286 01:40:28.039 --> 01:40:30.880 lot of studies that are coming out, have been out in the past few 1287 01:40:30.960 --> 01:40:34.079 months showing just how much damage this thing has done. And yet we've got 1288 01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:42.960 the government and these health organizations and medical organizations and businesses pushing it. So 1289 01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:46.319 now we're going to see a whole bunch of button heads over why should we 1290 01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:49.520 take it? If you lied to us about the first one, what makes 1291 01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:53.640 this one okay? It's going to be interesting to see how this one plays 1292 01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:57.920 out over the season where everybody is, you know, debating do I have 1293 01:40:58.039 --> 01:41:01.239 COVID or have I got the flu? It's gonna be interesting to see how 1294 01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:05.840 this one unds out. Absolutely, So, look, you decide which callers 1295 01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:10.319 we should go to next before I go to the callers, just real fast. 1296 01:41:10.399 --> 01:41:16.199 I want to make everybody aware that we are starting to take new memberships 1297 01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:19.479 at o'ceelly dot com and that is going to be the main way. I 1298 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:24.479 mean today I ended up with a Patreon payment and by the time I was 1299 01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:27.760 done paying for fees and everything else, I got less than ten bucks out 1300 01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:31.119 of that. So yeah, the Patreon I'm probably gonna cancel. We're just 1301 01:41:31.199 --> 01:41:36.520 gonna go with the new supporter wall thing and in twenty twenty four, if 1302 01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:42.680 you sign up this month and you get on the mailing list starting in January, 1303 01:41:42.760 --> 01:41:47.039 I'm gonna send out my archive to everybody who is a member at ochelly 1304 01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:51.239 dot com. So it's that simple. You're gonna get zip folders with the 1305 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:58.319 entire archive because my plans to post it online went south. I had an 1306 01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:02.960 assistant who got sick, uh permanently sick, and I'm just going to give 1307 01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:08.079 it to you that support us at Ocelli dot com. It's that simple. 1308 01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:12.159 If you sign up for a membership, whether it's on a monthly basis or 1309 01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:14.920 you sign up for the one time I want to be on the supporter wall 1310 01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:17.680 and get an image up there and get a link and everything else. Either 1311 01:42:17.800 --> 01:42:21.159 way, I'll put you on the twenty twenty four mailing list and mail out 1312 01:42:21.239 --> 01:42:28.680 the entire first decade of ohelly dot COM's work and the Ocelly Effect to you 1313 01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:31.600 in zip folders on a monthly basis. You'll get a couple of zip folders 1314 01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:34.800 full of stuff. That's the way it's going to go. And I'm gonna 1315 01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:40.960 give away the entire archive instead of selling it, but only for people that 1316 01:42:41.159 --> 01:42:46.199 support ocelly dot com. Pretty simple. So if you're supposed to be on 1317 01:42:46.279 --> 01:42:50.720 that mailing list already, send me an email info at ocelly dot com or 1318 01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:57.159 BLINDJFK researcher at gmail dot com. Make me aware. I will be building 1319 01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:00.920 the mailing list throughout the month of December, so you get on it at 1320 01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:03.119 the beginning. If you get on it later, that's fine too, but 1321 01:43:03.479 --> 01:43:08.560 you'll miss part of the archive if you're not on it before the first of 1322 01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:12.039 the year. So it's that simple, okay. Now, the thing that 1323 01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:16.920 be Pete wanted us to keep in mind is this controversy once again over the 1324 01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:20.000 vaccination. So Be Pete, who should we go to? We've got, 1325 01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:27.520 We've got Wilson on one line. We've got Jimmy James, we've got Harlan, 1326 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:30.239 and we've got a dvance still, and anybody else could join us at 1327 01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:34.319 three one nine, five, two seven five zero one six for the home 1328 01:43:34.399 --> 01:43:39.039 stretch here of the Friday night open mic. You can join us and we 1329 01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:42.880 might go a little over if you know, if we need to, but 1330 01:43:43.479 --> 01:43:45.720 otherwise we're going to probably end in a little less than thirty minutes. So 1331 01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:50.840 up to you, b Pete, who should we go to? Oh, 1332 01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:57.880 we can go in the reverse order and start with Wilson and we're going back, 1333 01:43:58.319 --> 01:44:00.359 all right, Let's get Wilson first, and then I think that would 1334 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:03.800 mean that we get a vance after that, and Harlan after that, and 1335 01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:08.279 Jimmy James would be last because he was first. So that's the way we're 1336 01:44:08.319 --> 01:44:11.279 going. So let's go to Wilson first. See what he's got to say 1337 01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:17.079 about this or anything else. Go ahead, Wilson. Do you guys think 1338 01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:21.800 that this ties into the mysterious illness out of China right now? Because that's 1339 01:44:21.840 --> 01:44:26.760 what it sounds like to name. That's an interesting point. I know a 1340 01:44:26.840 --> 01:44:30.520 lot of people are talking about it in alt media land, for sure, 1341 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:34.199 again, not my opinion matters here tonight. But what do you think, 1342 01:44:34.279 --> 01:44:41.840 Ppte, I don't know. I've been trying to catch stories on that when 1343 01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:46.399 to see what's going on there's another respiratory Uh is he running around China? 1344 01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:51.279 I don't think. I don't think what you and I went through was connected 1345 01:44:51.359 --> 01:44:55.279 to that. I think it's just a case of too many people in two 1346 01:44:55.359 --> 01:44:59.079 closer quarters. Well, I think you and I got the flu from mister 1347 01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:01.359 We got a on the way out, even though we're sick. Guy. 1348 01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:04.520 I think that's what we got, is some kind of flu. But outside 1349 01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:08.079 of that a lot of people have been talking about this and saying, you 1350 01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:13.399 know, Biden meets with the g over there, right, and the next 1351 01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:18.079 thing you know is China's reporting that they have some massive pneumonia problem and maybe 1352 01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:27.560 yet another you know, COVID type issue happening in China exploding again. And 1353 01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:30.560 does the mainstream pick up on it, not so much, but the alt 1354 01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:35.680 media screaming about it like, well, maybe it's being weaponized, it's being 1355 01:45:35.720 --> 01:45:41.520 staged. Specifically, forget about the terrorist attack before the selection. Maybe it's 1356 01:45:41.960 --> 01:45:48.720 the bio weapon, in some people's opinions, to bolster the selection process. 1357 01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:53.279 Maybe put it in a place where we have to do what the mail in 1358 01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:57.000 ballads again, right, Maybe they'll be masking, maybe they'll be new mandates. 1359 01:45:57.199 --> 01:46:01.119 This is what the supposition is from many, many who are out there 1360 01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:04.840 podcasting and such. So I mean, what are your thoughts there? Do 1361 01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:08.279 do you have any thoughts on that? I mean, I'm just asking the 1362 01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:13.960 question the tale on to Wilson here. Well, you know, yet, 1363 01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:17.800 when we've already had some school systems start trying to mask kids in certain classes, 1364 01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:20.920 I don't think the public is going to be so quick to put up 1365 01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:25.680 with this crap. And you're going to see people at schoolboard meetings asking what's 1366 01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:28.920 going on and why are you doing this? And here's the studies that show 1367 01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:30.800 it didn't work the first time, why are you trying to do it now? 1368 01:46:32.039 --> 01:46:38.680 The government may be a little cautious to jump on the bandwagon of pushing 1369 01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:43.920 mandates and closures. But I'll go ahead and tell you the girl that's running 1370 01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:53.279 the what is it word? Not World Health? The was it Health Units 1371 01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:57.399 Services? No, whatever the medical organization is in the lighthouse, whatever that 1372 01:46:57.520 --> 01:47:03.239 secretary is, she's leading basically Fauci's whole job. I guess she's leading the 1373 01:47:03.319 --> 01:47:06.159 way. She was one of the big proponents here in North Carolina that pushed 1374 01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:12.560 for mandates and closures and everything else. So just be prepared. If you've 1375 01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:15.000 got any questions, you can look up what went on in North Carolina during 1376 01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:24.079 the whole thing and see where her I don't know her ethics come from, 1377 01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:27.159 let's put it that way, because there wasn't very little shown in this state. 1378 01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:30.880 They basically shut everything down, put everybody out of work, created a 1379 01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:33.479 big blip in the economy, and for what for nothing. So I'm not 1380 01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:40.000 too fond of their new spokes a lady for the White House on these issues. 1381 01:47:40.439 --> 01:47:43.039 It's going to be interesting. I think they're going to try to push 1382 01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:45.439 it, but I don't think I don't think the public is going to put 1383 01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:48.760 up with it. I think they got their field during the last the last 1384 01:47:49.399 --> 01:47:53.720 pandemic. Well, I'm thinking because of the last moves to do this, 1385 01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:57.039 the way it went and the damage to the economy and the fact that we're 1386 01:47:57.079 --> 01:48:00.199 still suffering from it, is going to make a lot of peace. People 1387 01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:04.119 say, you know what, No, I'm thinking that that's going to happen 1388 01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:08.960 among the general populists because they saw enough businesses die and stuff like that. 1389 01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:12.920 Here I am with my opinion again. I'm sorry, Wilson back to you 1390 01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:16.000 on this. Is that an adequate response? And maybe we should pass this 1391 01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:20.640 around to everybody about this? What do you think about the new thing coming 1392 01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:24.479 out of China? What's that got to do with it? But you got 1393 01:48:24.479 --> 01:48:28.199 any other thoughts before I move on to another caller, because I do want 1394 01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:31.600 to try and get back around everybody again if I can. Yeah, I'd 1395 01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:34.840 like to get everyone's take on it. And I think there was reports that 1396 01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:43.079 some people in Ohio might actually came down with it. I'm not sure high 1397 01:48:43.159 --> 01:48:46.800 possibility. So with that v Pete, I'm gonna put Wilson on hold, 1398 01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:53.079 and we got another wireless caller, So I want to go to that wireless 1399 01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:57.640 caller and see if I can get their take on this before we jump back 1400 01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:01.279 to I guess what is it, Harlan the advancing in Ireland? Excuse me? 1401 01:49:01.920 --> 01:49:06.000 Uh so let's uh, let's do that. So you're a new wireless 1402 01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:10.600 caller and we are talking about what's going on, you know, in China, 1403 01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:14.039 and is this uh you know, part of what's going to hit us 1404 01:49:14.199 --> 01:49:18.119 next? Are we looking at another viral situation in time for the selection and 1405 01:49:18.199 --> 01:49:20.720 all that. I guess. Uh, but first, who are you? 1406 01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:24.560 And uh yeah, go ahead and tell us about what what's going on. 1407 01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:29.000 Good. Hey, my name is Jay, and thank you for taking my 1408 01:49:29.079 --> 01:49:31.960 call. I think it's all of the above. I think this is all 1409 01:49:32.039 --> 01:49:36.600 coming out convenient timing wise. But one thing I wanted to reach back on 1410 01:49:36.720 --> 01:49:40.680 and I called in a little late. Uh you all were talking about the 1411 01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:45.239 mass migration, right and you know, being military age men and stuff like 1412 01:49:45.319 --> 01:49:48.800 that. I would I would correct and say they're working age men. If 1413 01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:54.239 you go back and look at you n documents going back decades, they knew 1414 01:49:54.640 --> 01:49:59.039 somehow, they magically knew that Western nations that were getting heavily vaccinated in the 1415 01:49:59.119 --> 01:50:02.319 vaccines timed this. They knew that we were going to have declining populations. 1416 01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:09.359 If you look at the statistical charts and stuff like that, we have our 1417 01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:14.039 fertility rates are way way down. We have people that are aging populations. 1418 01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.800 They call them aging they meaning they're not working. And now the government owes 1419 01:50:16.840 --> 01:50:20.079 them money because they paid into a system that the government can't pay them back 1420 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:24.680 for. That's what the vaccines play a role. They have to kind of 1421 01:50:24.760 --> 01:50:29.920 like kill off the current population and then bring in a new working population. 1422 01:50:30.279 --> 01:50:31.399 That's kind of my theory on it. I don't know, I just want 1423 01:50:31.439 --> 01:50:35.760 to d answers take on that. Now. I appreciate that take because I 1424 01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:41.399 always see those grander you know, much like the guy who first introduced me 1425 01:50:41.479 --> 01:50:45.760 to the idea that indeed, you know, part of the purpose for you 1426 01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:51.800 know, inserting us into Vietnam may have been to reduce the working population so 1427 01:50:51.960 --> 01:50:57.479 that unemployment wouldn't become as big of an issue as it would become in later 1428 01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:01.359 years. I thought that was crazy idea when I first heard it, and 1429 01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:04.800 then I started looking at the statistics and what it was was being done and 1430 01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:09.920 what happened to, you know, again the working age man, that that's 1431 01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:14.640 coming into the job market. And indeed it started to make a little bit 1432 01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:17.760 of sense. You know, if you redirect them into the military, then 1433 01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:23.319 you have a jobs program for them, and look if they don't make it 1434 01:51:23.439 --> 01:51:26.800 back, oh well that means there's you know, more jobs for others. 1435 01:51:26.960 --> 01:51:30.520 Right. I mean, that's one way to look at it if you're engineering 1436 01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:35.399 things. Uh so I've always said about it that way. Yeah, that's 1437 01:51:35.439 --> 01:51:39.600 a good point. Check bringing them into the military, because if you noticed 1438 01:51:39.640 --> 01:51:43.960 it all, I think all of these different things play key roles in a 1439 01:51:44.079 --> 01:51:47.399 grand scheme. And they have got the military, so you know, we're 1440 01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:51.359 bringing a whole new population. You know, we can we can give you 1441 01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:55.479 the past for a while, and we can give you some pretty stuff. 1442 01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:59.039 But eventually they're going to you know, have them change stilled on their wrist, 1443 01:51:59.239 --> 01:52:02.359 you know, and there's a fast track. They're becoming the military. 1444 01:52:02.399 --> 01:52:05.800 You get that green card faster, and yeah, that's a good, a 1445 01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:10.399 good thing to take that, you know. Well, and simultaneously, look, 1446 01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:15.079 if we get involved in certain adventures overseas, whether they're justified or not, 1447 01:52:15.760 --> 01:52:19.119 if we get involved in enough adventures to thin the population down, well 1448 01:52:19.159 --> 01:52:23.319 there's a bunch of guys who pay in for a decade or so that never 1449 01:52:23.399 --> 01:52:28.319 get to collect anything, right, Uh, you know, so just just 1450 01:52:28.479 --> 01:52:30.239 math. I'm not trying to say that this is, you know, anything 1451 01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:33.439 other than math. But I always wonder that, by the way, you 1452 01:52:33.520 --> 01:52:36.079 know, the amount of people that never quite make it to when they tell 1453 01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:40.319 me that sold security is broke, I say, okay, I get they 1454 01:52:40.359 --> 01:52:44.159 could be broke. But same time, what happened to all the money from 1455 01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:47.119 the people that never got to collect anything, because there's a whole lot of 1456 01:52:47.159 --> 01:52:51.159 people that never lived to that retirement age, and did they you know, 1457 01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:56.880 does their money just completely evaporate. I've always wondered about that. Well, 1458 01:52:57.279 --> 01:53:00.439 yeah, and that's exactly right, Chuck, right, because I've always said, 1459 01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:04.319 if a person dies before they reached you know, whatever the payout was, 1460 01:53:04.760 --> 01:53:08.840 why doesn't that go to their family, you know? Or what if 1461 01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:12.159 they die in a motorcycle crash or a car crash and they paid in, 1462 01:53:12.279 --> 01:53:15.880 where does that money go? And you know, I was doing some research 1463 01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:19.520 on how long they could sustain of security and we're looking like twenty twenty eight, 1464 01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:24.199 twenty twenty nine or something before they can't sustain it. That's what they 1465 01:53:24.479 --> 01:53:27.920 then comes out the credit Jeb, you know, and then all the you 1466 01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:30.199 know, the elderly and the young. I mean, it's prime. It's 1467 01:53:30.439 --> 01:53:36.880 it's prime picking to replace the population with some people from a third world nation. 1468 01:53:38.039 --> 01:53:41.079 They won't ask questions and just do what you say, Like you said, 1469 01:53:41.159 --> 01:53:45.840 their military age, they're working age. This is a working populace. 1470 01:53:45.960 --> 01:53:48.359 This is a you know, a two kid system or you know, I 1471 01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:53.840 mean, you know, Feudi system. If you will right. No, 1472 01:53:54.039 --> 01:53:57.359 Jay, all great points. I'm only putting you on hold for times shake 1473 01:53:57.520 --> 01:54:00.800 because I want to get back around to everybody at least more of at least 1474 01:54:00.840 --> 01:54:04.640 one more time. So let me try and do that. I believe we're 1475 01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:09.640 up to getting vance on the line in reverse order. Is that right? 1476 01:54:09.720 --> 01:54:17.119 BPTE believe Wait a minute, he came home before halland so oh it should 1477 01:54:17.119 --> 01:54:21.840 be okay, you got it. I'll put Harlan on next. If I'm 1478 01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:26.520 incorrect in the order, my mistake. But we're still mixing it up properly. 1479 01:54:26.680 --> 01:54:30.119 So Harlan, what are your thoughts on what's been brought up so far? 1480 01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:32.720 And of course we started with the just the lawsuit in Texas and all 1481 01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:38.479 that, the deception and the interesting things going on. What's gonna, you 1482 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:41.960 know, happen in the future. Do we have a new viral thing happening 1483 01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:45.640 from China, et cetera. Plus what Jay brought up. What are your 1484 01:54:45.640 --> 01:54:49.479 thoughts, Harlan, Well, I'll try to go down the list here and 1485 01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:55.039 hit them mile a little bit. First off, from on the lawsuit down 1486 01:54:55.079 --> 01:54:59.800 in Texas. You know, that's just something that you know, Nadie debate. 1487 01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:03.000 I'm glad somebody, did you know, break down and do it. 1488 01:55:04.119 --> 01:55:09.600 There was something several months ago, if not last year to or the scientists 1489 01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:14.640 was bringing a grand jury together, but it was news for a few days 1490 01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:16.800 and then that just poof. You know, it's got like a fart in 1491 01:55:16.840 --> 01:55:20.279 the land. I've not heard anything else about it. See now wait wait 1492 01:55:20.560 --> 01:55:24.840 as well, and real quick, real quick with DeSantis though, is it 1493 01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:28.960 more of a political move or was he actually looking to do it? Is 1494 01:55:29.079 --> 01:55:32.159 my question because yeah, I question everything with him at this point because he's 1495 01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:36.119 looking to find a way to climb up the ladder as far as you know, 1496 01:55:36.239 --> 01:55:41.439 his contention for the GOP nomination, right, So, I mean it's 1497 01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:44.520 you always got to ask that question. Is this, you know, for 1498 01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:46.920 the political face or is this for the reality? Don't you think that's a 1499 01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:51.640 fair question or no, Well, I think there's a very good change that 1500 01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:56.119 it could have been, you know, for just for politics, because like 1501 01:55:56.239 --> 01:56:00.159 I said, I've not heard anything else about it. You would think that 1502 01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:06.039 the fro the Santus crowd on Twitter would be pumping that if it was going 1503 01:56:06.039 --> 01:56:10.119 anywhere but here again, you know, folks, you could go google it 1504 01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:14.520 and pretty much whatever the date is on it add two or three weeks to 1505 01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:16.359 it, and I've not heard nothing since then, right, I mean it's 1506 01:56:16.399 --> 01:56:18.600 been a while, right, So go ahead. What else did you have 1507 01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:24.560 you throw in there? What was about what the collars talking about in the 1508 01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:30.960 new alleged you know, Chinese virus. I've not seen anything about that yet. 1509 01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:35.840 I know before the war broke out in Israel that a lot of the 1510 01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:44.479 all independent and art media was all had been following its mouth more or less 1511 01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:47.560 fan probably about a month that you know, lockdowns is coming, blah blah 1512 01:56:47.680 --> 01:56:51.439 blah, and you know it was it kind of you know, became obvious 1513 01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:57.520 that that was just you know them mostly click baiting, and that's what it 1514 01:56:57.640 --> 01:57:00.399 turned out. I'm not saying, you know, folks, you know, 1515 01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:02.720 screaming that I ain't kind of putting some of this shit in check, but 1516 01:57:02.880 --> 01:57:08.800 getting people you know, back ready, but you know, show me, 1517 01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:11.840 you know what I'm saying, that's that's got to go around me. And 1518 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:15.399 if it happens, okay, you know, thank you for trying to warn 1519 01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:17.640 everybody. If not, well, okay, I guess you had something to 1520 01:57:17.680 --> 01:57:21.199 talk about. Yeah, no, I absolutely see what you're saying. There 1521 01:57:21.279 --> 01:57:26.479 is there was seemingly an intent at first to warn and then after that. 1522 01:57:26.640 --> 01:57:30.399 I think there was a dog pile afterwards in media land, alleged aut media 1523 01:57:30.479 --> 01:57:35.760 land, where there was clickbaiting after that because they saw success and you know, 1524 01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:39.680 some of those guys like Malone and all those, through their substacks, 1525 01:57:39.720 --> 01:57:44.079 were the first people trying to warn, you know, the typical guys, 1526 01:57:44.279 --> 01:57:47.279 right, because I get their stuff every day. And yeah, definitely I 1527 01:57:47.359 --> 01:57:50.680 think they were fully with the intent to try and warn people. But I 1528 01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:56.319 think a lot of you know, opinionators out there just piled on. Yeah, 1529 01:57:56.680 --> 01:58:00.800 I agree with you, so go ahead. Anything else then, well, 1530 01:58:00.239 --> 01:58:05.079 I definitely want to agree with what the other caller said about working age 1531 01:58:05.199 --> 01:58:10.680 men. Yes, I think it is more about the working age men versus 1532 01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:13.279 the military age men. I mean, you know, here again, folks, 1533 01:58:13.439 --> 01:58:16.720 I'm not saying that something couldn't happen if you look at it on paper. 1534 01:58:17.520 --> 01:58:20.159 Yeah, we've got a lot of folks from other countries in there, 1535 01:58:20.319 --> 01:58:25.840 and from countries that you know doesn't really like the so called American way, 1536 01:58:25.880 --> 01:58:29.079 even though some of that's because of the hypocrisy of the American way. You 1537 01:58:29.159 --> 01:58:33.680 know, probably there's a good chance of but you know, I do agree 1538 01:58:33.720 --> 01:58:36.319 with him. I think a lot it was more about you know, my 1539 01:58:36.680 --> 01:58:44.199 my private company having you know fresh you know, slave labor versus you know, 1540 01:58:44.520 --> 01:58:46.680 military age men that you know, we're going to be out here fighting 1541 01:58:46.760 --> 01:58:50.920 in the streets. You know that that would not happen in a bigger city. 1542 01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:54.039 But you know, I don't think it's gonna happen out in the middle 1543 01:58:54.079 --> 01:58:58.840 of you know, East Tennessee or you know, Missouri, color Rather or 1544 01:58:58.920 --> 01:59:00.039 whatever. But you know, I, in fact, there's a lot too 1545 01:59:00.159 --> 01:59:03.239 that. And I also think that that's you know, been the main driver, 1546 01:59:04.399 --> 01:59:09.520 you know, of the illegals. I mean, Tucker crosses South about 1547 01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:15.239 it over the years. And you know, Jimmy mentioned earlier about eleven million 1548 01:59:15.319 --> 01:59:18.800 illegals. Tony Aardman said within the last year as a listed one of his 1549 01:59:18.920 --> 01:59:24.000 shows, and he said he'd heard eleven million since he was a kid. 1550 01:59:25.079 --> 01:59:29.359 Well, I've heard that eleven millian for the last twenty or better. And 1551 01:59:30.159 --> 01:59:34.960 at the same time this looked this while Biden's been president, how many articles 1552 01:59:34.960 --> 01:59:39.840 have we seen two hundred and seventy five a week, one hundred thousand a 1553 01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:43.720 week, fifty thousand a week. You know, hilf a million this month, 1554 01:59:44.439 --> 01:59:46.920 you know, supposedly just came in. Well did they stop counting alvos? 1555 01:59:47.960 --> 01:59:51.039 You know? I mean I would say that he would probably have to 1556 01:59:51.119 --> 01:59:55.800 be closer to I mean, I'm most say it have to be thirty or 1557 01:59:55.840 --> 02:00:00.279 forty million. I mean it's a baron bones. I mean I've been, 1558 02:00:00.439 --> 02:00:02.920 you know, screaming in all eleven. I mean, are they not counting 1559 02:00:02.960 --> 02:00:08.399 the children? But few? Yeah? No bye by the math. Look 1560 02:00:08.439 --> 02:00:12.359 you got to keep adding them together, that's true. So and there you 1561 02:00:12.479 --> 02:00:15.760 have it. So let's go to vance on this next because he's next in 1562 02:00:15.920 --> 02:00:24.880 order, right be Pete, there we go, I got advanced. Okay, 1563 02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:30.800 thank you, sorry, So back to it advance you know here here 1564 02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:34.640 it is all these considerations. Of course, this is something to be looked 1565 02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:39.359 at. There there is the fast track for the illegals of course, with 1566 02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:43.279 you know, going to military service. But I think they're right about this, 1567 02:00:43.479 --> 02:00:45.199 the the idea that there's going to be I mean, what was the 1568 02:00:45.239 --> 02:00:48.720 big complaint the past couple of years, right ever since the lockdowns? Not 1569 02:00:48.960 --> 02:00:54.079 enough labor? Not enough labor. So what do you do? He got 1570 02:00:54.199 --> 02:00:58.079 to source it from somewhere at least until AI takes it all over and we 1571 02:00:58.159 --> 02:01:14.279 have automation eliminate everybody, right Vance? Oops? Wait a second? Oh 1572 02:01:14.399 --> 02:01:17.359 boy, all right, I thought I clicked Vance on and maybe it's not 1573 02:01:17.479 --> 02:01:23.760 letting me. Huh, But no, I think I have I'm muted and 1574 02:01:23.800 --> 02:01:26.359 I'm trying to get there. He goes, Vance, can you hear me 1575 02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:30.239 now? Yeah? Yeah, you unmuted me and then it went back on, 1576 02:01:30.560 --> 02:01:33.560 said back on mute. So I'm sorry how it happened, but sorry 1577 02:01:33.560 --> 02:01:41.359 about that at any right, you know, the China virus thing or whatever, 1578 02:01:41.560 --> 02:01:45.239 the new thing over there. I hadn't heard anything until y'all mentioned it. 1579 02:01:45.399 --> 02:01:47.880 But you know, it seems to me that you know, every year 1580 02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:51.479 you get a new strain of a new virus, because you know about you 1581 02:01:51.600 --> 02:01:56.479 know, the whole narrative. So you know, it kind of wreaks some 1582 02:01:56.600 --> 02:02:00.399 fear porn to me. And you know, I don't even know part of 1583 02:02:00.439 --> 02:02:04.159 you determine if you got the flu or if you got COVID, because you 1584 02:02:04.239 --> 02:02:06.600 know, as far as I know, the test is the same and the 1585 02:02:06.720 --> 02:02:11.640 test as COVID. I mean, I tested positive for COVID, but I'm 1586 02:02:11.920 --> 02:02:15.479 certain I didn't have COVID. Have any respiratory effects or anything. But the 1587 02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:19.000 test said that I was positive for COVID, right, so you know, 1588 02:02:19.119 --> 02:02:26.479 I'm I'm I'm still confused about you know, what's the difference in COVID versus 1589 02:02:26.640 --> 02:02:30.640 the flu, you know, because it seems that the symptoms are all very 1590 02:02:30.800 --> 02:02:35.720 similar, et cetera. And you know, regardless, regardless, I mean, 1591 02:02:36.039 --> 02:02:42.359 you know that I don't discount. I'm fully aware that that research for 1592 02:02:42.520 --> 02:02:47.800 that dis posed coronavirus technology whatever started here then went to China. So I'm 1593 02:02:47.840 --> 02:02:51.680 not aboard, do you know? It's all China. You know, perpetrating 1594 02:02:51.760 --> 02:02:56.199 this on us is some evil plied or whatever. But the you know, 1595 02:02:57.119 --> 02:03:00.680 regardless of what it is, it seems to me that the vact seen is 1596 02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:05.560 what's killing more people than anything and harming more people, and so for whatever 1597 02:03:05.760 --> 02:03:10.359 reason, and for all the reasons, you know, this is basically a 1598 02:03:10.439 --> 02:03:14.000 demicide that's going on on all front. You know, there's the demoside with 1599 02:03:14.159 --> 02:03:18.199 the vaccines, and the demoside with the Israeli stuff and the Ukraine stuff, 1600 02:03:18.319 --> 02:03:24.119 and you know, we don't really have much industry left here, you know, 1601 02:03:24.359 --> 02:03:28.239 so it's not like everything ain't already being made in Mexico, and China 1602 02:03:28.319 --> 02:03:31.720 and you know elsewhere around in the world and Vietnam and everywhere else, and 1603 02:03:32.840 --> 02:03:36.039 so you know, the you know, I guess we need more road workers 1604 02:03:36.520 --> 02:03:43.079 and you know cement finishers and stuff like that, which they've always been available, 1605 02:03:43.359 --> 02:03:46.000 you know, in the past. But you know, the economy and 1606 02:03:46.119 --> 02:03:51.359 everything, it's not so much that there's not enough workers. It's just that 1607 02:03:51.439 --> 02:03:56.239 they've made it to where it's it's you know, for some people, you 1608 02:03:56.319 --> 02:04:00.319 know, easier not to work than to go and work because you can't really, 1609 02:04:00.439 --> 02:04:03.520 you know, you go bust your ass on that hot pavement, you 1610 02:04:03.640 --> 02:04:08.520 know, like I'm sure be peeping. I'm sure they probably pay their guys 1611 02:04:08.600 --> 02:04:12.279 good. But you know what I'm saying, I'm digressing here. But the 1612 02:04:13.079 --> 02:04:15.119 you know, that's that, you know, there's no doubt in my mind 1613 02:04:15.239 --> 02:04:19.880 that these people know what they're doing. And and you know, the the 1614 02:04:21.319 --> 02:04:25.760 there needs to be accountability, you know, had for that. And when 1615 02:04:25.800 --> 02:04:29.359 they keep you know, bringing another new thing up, you know, every 1616 02:04:29.840 --> 02:04:33.399 every you know, season and whatever, then you know, there's it's real 1617 02:04:33.479 --> 02:04:38.600 hard for anybody to to I don't know, you know, how do we 1618 02:04:38.680 --> 02:04:41.359 make a stand against that? How do we how do we get relief. 1619 02:04:41.399 --> 02:04:45.840 How do we get someone to go and and and pay attention to the obvious 1620 02:04:45.359 --> 02:04:50.399 statistics and evidence that these people don't know what they're talking about, have presented. 1621 02:04:50.760 --> 02:04:54.359 They're just gonna, you know, ignore it and keep you know, 1622 02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:57.560 doing it again, right, And look, I've got an open mind about 1623 02:04:57.600 --> 02:04:59.479 all this. I'm gonna put you on hold, but I got an open 1624 02:04:59.479 --> 02:05:03.720 mind about all all this. I tend to hear from you that you think 1625 02:05:03.880 --> 02:05:10.319 the general culling is occurring, and why not use a lot of different methodologies. 1626 02:05:11.079 --> 02:05:14.439 That's the way I see it too. But you know, I'm a 1627 02:05:14.640 --> 02:05:18.640 crazy conspiracy theorist. So what can I do anyway? Again, not about 1628 02:05:18.680 --> 02:05:21.520 my opinion, but b Pete, this is a pretty spirited conversation. I 1629 02:05:21.560 --> 02:05:25.399 think we got to go to Jimmy James before we go back around to Wilson. 1630 02:05:25.680 --> 02:05:30.199 What do you think? Yes, yes, definitely anything you want to 1631 02:05:30.199 --> 02:05:35.079 add though, before I get to Jimmy, Well, I agree with a 1632 02:05:35.159 --> 02:05:42.439 lot of the things that have been said to speak to Vance's point. Yes, 1633 02:05:42.960 --> 02:05:47.960 it was determined even before the first real big, huge outbreaks when they 1634 02:05:48.000 --> 02:05:53.079 started talking about COVID, that it was a technology that was being used here 1635 02:05:53.399 --> 02:05:57.960 in North Carolina, University of North Carolina Med School, they were working on 1636 02:05:58.039 --> 02:06:00.560 it, and there were several other labs involved at some of these other institutions, 1637 02:06:00.600 --> 02:06:04.720 some of them governments, some of them educational, And when the band 1638 02:06:04.880 --> 02:06:10.880 was put on this experimental gain of function research, they just you know, 1639 02:06:11.039 --> 02:06:15.119 buttoned up the operation and took their samples with them and went over to Wuhan 1640 02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:19.079 and that's where it continued. So yeah, it's not just China. I've 1641 02:06:19.199 --> 02:06:21.880 from the very beginning of this, I've been pointing out to people that this, 1642 02:06:23.079 --> 02:06:26.920 you know, we've been funding this stuff and we disallowed it to happen 1643 02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:30.399 here. So, you know, like all the other clan to sne stuff 1644 02:06:30.439 --> 02:06:32.840 that we see going on, take it to another country and fund it over 1645 02:06:32.880 --> 02:06:35.840 there, That's exactly what happened, and it came back to bite us. 1646 02:06:36.359 --> 02:06:41.359 This recent outbreak I've not heard much on. It's a resptory distress that's going 1647 02:06:41.439 --> 02:06:44.359 on in China, so I haven't been able to find out more than that, 1648 02:06:44.600 --> 02:06:46.640 and it's contained to a couple areas. But you know, some of 1649 02:06:46.680 --> 02:06:50.119 these people in some of these labs are in China might be the ones that 1650 02:06:50.640 --> 02:06:54.880 you know, they get told by their boss Okay, you've been exposed to 1651 02:06:54.960 --> 02:06:57.319 this. Now go hang out at the wet market for a week. So 1652 02:06:57.399 --> 02:07:00.319 we've got something we can blame it on later when we see the pandem mixed 1653 02:07:00.319 --> 02:07:03.000 start and I'm wondering if you know the employees are sitting around looking at it. 1654 02:07:03.079 --> 02:07:05.640 Hey, I had to go start the last pandemic. Gets your turn, 1655 02:07:05.960 --> 02:07:09.960 you know, I quit picking on me. Well, fair, if 1656 02:07:10.000 --> 02:07:13.640 that's what it's coming to. Fair, Yeah, it's a method, right 1657 02:07:14.279 --> 02:07:15.640 go ahead. Oh no, I'm sorry. What I was gonna do is 1658 02:07:15.680 --> 02:07:19.399 say we we should get to Jimmy and then allow everybody to get into final 1659 02:07:19.479 --> 02:07:24.840 word because we're over the two hours and it'll probably take us another half hour 1660 02:07:24.920 --> 02:07:27.680 to get through everybody's final word, because I want to give everybody a chance. 1661 02:07:27.680 --> 02:07:30.199 Whs on the line to uh, you know, give us a final 1662 02:07:30.319 --> 02:07:35.279 something, let advance promote his podcast, uh, and so on. Harlan 1663 02:07:35.319 --> 02:07:39.359 will probably have something he wants to drop on us. But before we go 1664 02:07:39.520 --> 02:07:44.279 there, we got to let Jimmy James chime in on all this and U 1665 02:07:44.920 --> 02:07:46.880 and also let Jimmy get his final word in when he's done. So, 1666 02:07:47.119 --> 02:07:53.399 Jimmy, your thoughts on the whole vaccination viral discussion, China, et cetera, 1667 02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:56.760 et cetera. That's gone on here, and then give us your final 1668 02:07:56.840 --> 02:08:03.920 word for the week, and we'll go through everybody after that. All on 1669 02:08:03.239 --> 02:08:11.600 vaccines, Traditionally I would have said, your children apparently should get the first 1670 02:08:11.760 --> 02:08:18.199 several the months of rebella, et cetera. But I no longer would even 1671 02:08:18.319 --> 02:08:24.439 trust them to do that, just my opinion. They bag about how they 1672 02:08:24.560 --> 02:08:31.720 could put COVID vaccines in et cetera and other things. So unfortunately, on 1673 02:08:33.159 --> 02:08:37.560 my recommendation for what it's worth, which is nothing because I'm not a doctor, 1674 02:08:37.920 --> 02:08:46.520 nonetheless, I would not recommend people get their children vaccinated at all until 1675 02:08:46.600 --> 02:09:00.880 there's some accountability. It's the vaccine situation now, as far as pants silent 1676 02:09:01.039 --> 02:09:09.359 Jay and mister Wilson, if it is in detail name various allegations of opening 1677 02:09:09.520 --> 02:09:16.239 the borders to increase the workforce and then to kill them with the virus. 1678 02:09:18.640 --> 02:09:24.560 I guess for some reason. Uh well, of course, of course it's 1679 02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:30.920 true. Plently, question is isn't it? Is it the insect isoids or 1680 02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:35.840 the insept zoids, the insect, is it effectoids or the insect? Who's 1681 02:09:35.920 --> 02:09:39.560 the top man? Is it? The insect is isoids or accept azoids. 1682 02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:45.840 Could just be the could just be the king of the sociopaths that happens to 1683 02:09:45.920 --> 02:09:50.479 be at the top of the hill at the moment right Oh, the most 1684 02:09:50.600 --> 02:09:56.720 crazy. Yeah, so maybe Briden is in charge after all. You not 1685 02:09:58.239 --> 02:10:01.640 bad, Jimmy. So there you go. Oh you just rounded it all 1686 02:10:01.720 --> 02:10:05.199 out perfectly. Any final word you want to put on this one for the 1687 02:10:05.279 --> 02:10:16.039 week. I just talked everyone a good weekend and it's continue who just support 1688 02:10:16.159 --> 02:10:22.800 the Ukrain Israel, our allies for God's sake, it's not not our own 1689 02:10:22.920 --> 02:10:31.319 country. Crumble. Everyone have a good one for Uncle. Yeah, that's 1690 02:10:31.359 --> 02:10:35.000 gonna be a good one this week, exactly, thank you, Jimmy. 1691 02:10:35.560 --> 02:10:37.000 Uh, We're gonna have a good Uncle show this week. We're gonna have 1692 02:10:37.039 --> 02:10:41.079 a lot of good o'celli stuff and some new op ed pieces coming from some 1693 02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:45.600 people that are not necessarily part of the network but are gonna contribute to it 1694 02:10:45.680 --> 02:10:50.520 anyway. So you know, I'm gonna have them contribute at their leisure and 1695 02:10:50.720 --> 02:10:52.720 we do have new stuff. To sign up for it Ocelly dot com if 1696 02:10:52.720 --> 02:10:58.199 you want to support and get the entire archive the decades worth of an archive 1697 02:10:58.680 --> 02:11:01.239 email to you. You just got to figure out a way to become a 1698 02:11:01.279 --> 02:11:05.560 supporter at ochelly dot com. Email me if you're already owed in archive because 1699 02:11:05.560 --> 02:11:09.560 you're on the list. I will be assembling it throughout the month of December. 1700 02:11:11.119 --> 02:11:13.159 So we'll keep Jimmy on hold just in case we get back around to 1701 02:11:13.239 --> 02:11:16.000 him for some reason. But what do you think, b Pete, You 1702 02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:20.960 want me to randomly pull people on and get their final word for the week, 1703 02:11:20.039 --> 02:11:26.439 whatever it might be. Sure, all right, so let's just roll 1704 02:11:26.520 --> 02:11:31.760 the dice here on my screen, and looks like I'm going to Harlan first 1705 02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:37.119 for his final word of the week. Harlan, it's on you, hey 1706 02:11:37.239 --> 02:11:41.760 man, it's you can put the monkey on my back. It's all right, 1707 02:11:41.079 --> 02:11:48.560 all right, Well, if everybody has a good week. Bat one 1708 02:11:48.640 --> 02:11:50.680 thing left that I've got, says, if we're trying to wind this down, 1709 02:11:50.880 --> 02:11:58.760 is, you know, back to BP's original storyline about the lost sizer. 1710 02:11:58.840 --> 02:12:03.720 I actually have a fun that the doctor's even told him that his heart 1711 02:12:03.880 --> 02:12:09.880 problems he's about forty nine fifty years old, is from getting the jabs. 1712 02:12:11.960 --> 02:12:15.159 That's something that's went on here for the last you know, five or six 1713 02:12:15.279 --> 02:12:18.119 months, so you know, more and more of that stuff is starting to 1714 02:12:18.199 --> 02:12:24.119 come out. That's just one person that I know that I know that wouldn't 1715 02:12:24.159 --> 02:12:26.640 lie to me or just get dramatic, just you know, to be getting 1716 02:12:26.720 --> 02:12:31.199 that way. I mean, this ain't a far left loan that just got 1717 02:12:31.319 --> 02:12:35.319 you know, a jabbst remorse. I guess you could call it, but 1718 02:12:37.000 --> 02:12:46.640 I like that. Sorry, good yeah, yeah, good try you know, 1719 02:12:46.079 --> 02:12:48.880 I mean, and you know, if you ever come up with the 1720 02:12:50.079 --> 02:12:54.399 with the cottage Jesus, you may have remore from men jabbed of another nature. 1721 02:12:54.479 --> 02:13:05.239 But anyway, Jeb, yes, nice, Yeah, a lot of 1722 02:13:05.399 --> 02:13:11.199 us we're going anyway. I want to just pass it on around and give 1723 02:13:11.199 --> 02:13:13.920 everybody else a change. So I know there's other collars on there. It's 1724 02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:16.680 not got to as much as I do. But if you want to check 1725 02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:20.680 out my new rumble channel, this only has one short video on it. 1726 02:13:20.840 --> 02:13:24.000 I'm gonna start doing some streams here and there when I get everything say it 1727 02:13:24.119 --> 02:13:28.359 up. You know, some of them are just gonna be wide open, 1728 02:13:28.439 --> 02:13:30.640 just say what you want. You know. Some of them's gonna miss more 1729 02:13:30.680 --> 02:13:35.199 serious issues of the local nature around my home area. Once I get going, 1730 02:13:35.359 --> 02:13:41.840 If that doesn't fall through cool Harlan stone forty five. Harlan Stonewall forty 1731 02:13:41.920 --> 02:13:48.680 five is the Rumble Channel. Yes, all one word. I guess you 1732 02:13:48.720 --> 02:13:50.840 could say, you know, it's just my profile on there. I've not 1733 02:13:50.960 --> 02:13:56.119 looked into actually, you know, starting a channel. You know, yeah, 1734 02:13:56.239 --> 02:13:58.880 I may just try to just you know, keep it out on there. 1735 02:13:58.960 --> 02:14:01.119 You go to get intwo or three, it just goes to confusing everybody. 1736 02:14:01.159 --> 02:14:05.840 And I'm Auso on Twitter, real Harlan and Harlan stone Wall on Facebook. 1737 02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:13.039 There you go. So we we got a little promo clip and indeed 1738 02:14:13.119 --> 02:14:18.039 we got Harlan's final word and he is now officially our from under Cheese expert. 1739 02:14:18.720 --> 02:14:26.399 So let's go to next on the roll of the dice. Wilson is 1740 02:14:26.600 --> 02:14:31.439 up next. Wilson, your final word of the week, Avoid the cottage, 1741 02:14:31.520 --> 02:14:37.439 change disease and vote for Jimmy James. Harlan Stonewall, twenty twenty four. 1742 02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:41.680 Thanks very much. There it is Wilson with his final word of the 1743 02:14:41.720 --> 02:14:50.520 week, and let's advance final word of the week. Well, just as 1744 02:14:50.560 --> 02:14:56.680 everyone else said, have a great weekend, and I don't really come on 1745 02:14:56.800 --> 02:15:00.720 here to promote my show, which something it's not mine I'm just a guest 1746 02:15:00.800 --> 02:15:05.039 host, but I guess I'll say anybody that's interested. That's a Saturday night 1747 02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:13.760 anarchy show on PMP on Rumble and seven o'clock to usually ten. We went 1748 02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:20.840 four hours last time and I was about beat after that. But similar conversations 1749 02:15:20.920 --> 02:15:22.680 to everything here. So you know, if you'd like to call in here, 1750 02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:26.520 call in over there, and you gotta you have to text her like 1751 02:15:26.720 --> 02:15:31.399 chat or in the chat, you know, to bring you on. You 1752 02:15:31.479 --> 02:15:33.680 have to be linked log on through a link. I forget the name of 1753 02:15:33.760 --> 02:15:37.039 the app that you got to, you know, get a link to to 1754 02:15:37.920 --> 02:15:41.960 log on. But if you'll just make comments or whatever, we'll get you 1755 02:15:41.039 --> 02:15:48.279 in there. And that's live on Rumble and Twitter too, right, I 1756 02:15:48.399 --> 02:15:52.000 believe it's on Twitter as well. I'm sorry, that's the only place I 1757 02:15:52.159 --> 02:15:56.600 watch it and I don't do Twitter and all that, so no problem. 1758 02:15:56.640 --> 02:15:58.880 I'm just trying to help you out, you know, whichever way. Appreciate 1759 02:15:58.920 --> 02:16:01.800 you for calling in, that's for sure, and uh, you know, 1760 02:16:03.119 --> 02:16:07.479 wish you luck with that over there. So that's Van's I think we still 1761 02:16:07.520 --> 02:16:13.119 have j On well hold on, hold on one second, hear I think 1762 02:16:13.159 --> 02:16:16.840 we still have j On the line. Let's see that might be Jay. 1763 02:16:18.039 --> 02:16:30.399 Is that Jay? Hello? Is this Jay? Nope? Oh okay, 1764 02:16:30.760 --> 02:16:33.959 sorry I rolled the dice and rolled to the wrong line. All right, 1765 02:16:35.600 --> 02:16:37.120 it looks like we got everybody, Unless you want to go back around, 1766 02:16:37.239 --> 02:16:41.760 Bpete, it's on you for the final word of the week. Well, 1767 02:16:43.200 --> 02:16:46.479 you know, the vaccually seasons upon us, and we're going to be dealing 1768 02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:50.760 with this for the next few months. It would be curious to see what's 1769 02:16:50.799 --> 02:16:54.319 going to come out as the main debate debate topic on each side, because, 1770 02:16:54.360 --> 02:16:58.559 like I said, I don't think the public is ready for another mass 1771 02:16:58.600 --> 02:17:03.000 clothes or I don't think it's going to get that far. It'll be curious, 1772 02:17:03.040 --> 02:17:11.280 though, we have the capability of anything hit us. You know, 1773 02:17:11.360 --> 02:17:15.799 it was this time of year that COVID really started taking off around the world. 1774 02:17:16.440 --> 02:17:18.559 We didn't really get into it hard until March of the next year. 1775 02:17:18.760 --> 02:17:24.840 So who knows what's been released on us up till now. But you know, 1776 02:17:26.040 --> 02:17:30.440 put your faith in your doctor whatever he tells you. I'm not going 1777 02:17:30.520 --> 02:17:35.120 to be getting any vaccines from anybody anytime soon, regardless of the situation. 1778 02:17:37.079 --> 02:17:39.319 So we'll see how it carries out. We're at the beginning of the flu 1779 02:17:39.479 --> 02:17:43.799 season. Let's see how bad it gets. Other than that, you know, 1780 02:17:45.799 --> 02:17:48.239 never trust the government, especially in the next year, because they're going 1781 02:17:48.319 --> 02:17:52.000 to be pulling this way and that to try to get a decision out of 1782 02:17:52.120 --> 02:17:56.079 you. It's a shame. We don't have any better choices than we have. 1783 02:17:56.040 --> 02:18:00.760 But we're going to have a long year ahead of us. Starting in 1784 02:18:00.879 --> 02:18:03.239 January, they're gonna start pounding this left right left right, left right. 1785 02:18:03.399 --> 02:18:07.120 I would advise everybody to cut the cable, cut the TV off, get 1786 02:18:07.159 --> 02:18:11.120 as far away from it as you can, because you're going to be politically 1787 02:18:11.239 --> 02:18:16.719 added to death. And it's unfortunate that that's how our system works, but 1788 02:18:16.879 --> 02:18:20.440 it's the only system we got right now, until some people come to in 1789 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:26.319 their senses, we get rid of some of the blockages towards modernity that we've 1790 02:18:26.399 --> 02:18:28.799 got in our Congress, in our Senate, right, you know, So 1791 02:18:30.120 --> 02:18:33.079 just keep your chin up over the next year. If you get sick, 1792 02:18:33.680 --> 02:18:37.559 pump the vitamin C, you know, drink plenty of fluids, get plenty 1793 02:18:37.559 --> 02:18:41.559 of rest, and we'll make it through this exactly. Well, look, 1794 02:18:41.559 --> 02:18:45.040 I'm sweating and apparently spiking another fever. But one way or another, I'm 1795 02:18:45.079 --> 02:18:46.680 going to get rolling by next week. In the next couple of weeks, 1796 02:18:46.719 --> 02:18:52.120 we'll hear from what We'll get to Passing the Torch with Larry Hancock, We'll 1797 02:18:52.159 --> 02:18:56.159 get an update from Mike Swanson about his recent article regarding Lumpkin. We'll get 1798 02:18:56.280 --> 02:19:01.239 into it with Pipe of Bimbo and Red if I can get my hands on 1799 02:19:01.319 --> 02:19:05.239 that book, which I'm supposed to shortly, well, we'll get to a 1800 02:19:05.280 --> 02:19:09.280 bunch of things, and in fact we might even hear from Doc Ram Richard 1801 02:19:09.319 --> 02:19:13.879 Allen Miller in the next week or so, maybe two weeks. But by 1802 02:19:13.920 --> 02:19:16.200 the end of December, you're going to hear from a lot of people on 1803 02:19:16.319 --> 02:19:20.200 the network that a you haven't heard from in a while and some you've never 1804 02:19:20.360 --> 02:19:24.840 heard from before. Also, I'm planning on getting together with Alex Harris again, 1805 02:19:26.319 --> 02:19:31.799 maybe talking about some of the films involving JFK. Some nine to eleven 1806 02:19:31.879 --> 02:19:35.520 people that are weird might come on, and a couple other people from coast 1807 02:19:35.559 --> 02:19:41.559 to coast am contacts that came through, because that was weird as hell some 1808 02:19:41.719 --> 02:19:43.920 of the emails I got. No, I'm not going to bring on the 1809 02:19:43.959 --> 02:19:48.319 guy who claims to be channeling JFK to tell us the truth from the grave. 1810 02:19:50.120 --> 02:19:54.680 Not my style, but who knows, maybe, maybe, just maybe 1811 02:19:54.719 --> 02:19:56.079 we'll get there. If you guys demand it, I might do it. 1812 02:19:56.719 --> 02:20:01.760 So get in your support at otell do that, because that's what's gonna keep 1813 02:20:01.799 --> 02:20:05.000 us running over the next year. And I want to send the free archive 1814 02:20:05.079 --> 02:20:09.600 to as many people as possible. So if you're a supporter at Ocelli dot 1815 02:20:09.639 --> 02:20:13.280 com, either you're on the supporter wall, or you're on the mailing list 1816 02:20:13.360 --> 02:20:16.920 because you're a monthly subscriber. Whatever, get on the mailing list. Send 1817 02:20:16.920 --> 02:20:22.040 to me info at Ocelly dot com or blind JFK researcher at gmail dot com. 1818 02:20:22.639 --> 02:20:26.239 Either way, let me know that you need to be on the mailing 1819 02:20:26.319 --> 02:20:30.840 list or find out how to get on the mailing list. I'm gonna send 1820 02:20:30.879 --> 02:20:37.600 out a decade's worth of archive shows to everybody on that mailing list in twenty 1821 02:20:37.719 --> 02:20:41.479 twenty four. That's the way that's going. That's my little ad for the 1822 02:20:41.520 --> 02:20:46.920 week. And that's all I got to say about that. This one is 1823 02:20:46.959 --> 02:20:50.239 in the books. So I thank Vpete, I thank Vance, I thank 1824 02:20:50.319 --> 02:20:56.520 Wilson Jay, and let's see Harlan uh And of course Jimmy James for making 1825 02:20:56.600 --> 02:21:01.120 this show possible, as well as executive producer, which is what's going to 1826 02:21:01.159 --> 02:21:05.920 happen from now on. Regarding supporters of the show. Executive producer for tonight, 1827 02:21:07.680 --> 02:21:11.280 I believe her name is Mica m y Ka, and I'm just going 1828 02:21:11.360 --> 02:21:16.319 to use first names. You're the executive producer for tonight because you chipped in 1829 02:21:16.520 --> 02:21:20.040 at oelly dot com. So anybody who does that from now on gets a 1830 02:21:20.079 --> 02:21:24.639 shout out on air. Thanks a lot, and we will do this again 1831 02:21:24.959 --> 02:21:28.200 next week. Until then, I am merely O'Kelly, and all of you 1832 02:21:28.479 --> 02:21:31.159 are indeed the effect. Goodnight,