WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:21.079 Thank you for listening to Depictures Media Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights, 2 00:00:21.079 --> 00:01:00.640 the show about the government, policy and human rights. Welcome have to policy 3 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:07.319 and right here in Depictions Media Radio, I'm your host Michael Cloggs with ongoing 4 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:17.120 issues in Moli and of course violence in the area kicking up, with problems 5 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:23.000 in coups in Niger and dangerous places to be able to send into refugees and 6 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:33.719 so forth. It looks like the United Nations Multi Dimensional Integrated Stabilization Mission in 7 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:40.719 Molli is pulling out there. They are attempting to leave behind of programs to 8 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:48.599 help the people and hopefully that things do stabilize in Moli so that they can 9 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:56.799 go back and finish the work that they've actually started. But that has has 10 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:08.439 to be seen. And in the next recording from the UN Security Council that 11 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:15.639 they had a meeting about this and a vote on how things should proceed. 12 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:28.840 So why don't we listen to that now and we'll be back with final thoughts. 13 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:32.240 The nine thousand, four hundred an eighth meeting of the Security Council is 14 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:42.759 resumed. The provisional agenda for this meeting is the situation in Mali, agenda 15 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:50.879 is adopted. Security Council will now begin its consideration vitam two of the agenda. 16 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:57.039 Members of the Council have before them documents S Slash twenty twenty three Slash 17 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:04.840 six three eight and S twenty twenty three Slash sixty three nine, each of 18 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:10.479 which contains the text of her separate draft resolution. I wish to draw the 19 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:15.639 attention of Council members to document S Slash twenty twenty three Slash five seven eight, 20 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:21.199 a letter dated August third, twenty twenty three from the Panel of Experts 21 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:25.759 on Mali, established pursuant to Resolution twenty three seventy four addressed to the President 22 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:31.400 of the Security Council. The Council is ready to proceed to the vote on 23 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:38.919 the first draft resolution before it. I now give the floor to those members 24 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:43.199 of the Council who wish to make statements before the vote. I now give 25 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.280 the floor to the United Arab Emirates. You on the floor. Thank you, 26 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:51.400 mister President, and let me start by thanking all Council members for their 27 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:58.080 flexibility and engagement throughout the negotiations on the draft resolution we have before us on 28 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:03.039 the Security Council sanctioned regime concerning Mali. We also thank France for partnering with 29 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:08.360 US as copenholders and for the extensive work they and their team have put into 30 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:12.759 trying to find a compromised text. In the past weeks, we have engaged 31 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.319 with Mali, with the wider Region and with Council members several times, and 32 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:20.800 entabling the draft resolution, we kept front of mind the United view of the 33 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:27.680 Council, the Agreement on Peace and Reconciliation in Mali is central for achieving lasting 34 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:31.399 peace in Mali. The Security Council established the sanctions regime in twenty seventeen to 35 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:36.720 help respond to challenges associated with implementation of the peace Agreement. Indeed, the 36 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:42.360 signatories to the peace Agreement invited the Security Council to fully support this agreement, 37 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.800 to follow its implementation closely, and to take any necessary measures against those who 38 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:53.319 hinder its implementation. As the Special Representative of the Secretary General for Mali informed 39 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:57.639 the Council just two days ago, the implementation of the peace Agreement is facing 40 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:02.480 difficulty and the UN continues to believe its implementation is essential. In addition, 41 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:08.199 we are conscious that MANUSMAS draw Down and withdrawal our ongoing the first phase of 42 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:12.279 Manusma's drawdown has occurred successfully. However, we need to bear in mind that 43 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:16.439 the second phase is still ongoing and it will be important to maintain as stable 44 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:21.199 an environment as possible for the sake of achieving a safe and orderly draw down. 45 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:26.439 In putting the draft resolution forward, we have paid careful attention to the 46 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:30.720 views of Molly's transitional government, in particular the request for the lifting of the 47 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:35.279 sanctions regime as contained in the Molly Foreign Minister's Letter dated fifteenth August twenty twenty 48 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:40.120 three. We have also engaged with Molly at all levels to hear their concerns, 49 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:46.160 and we think this draft resolution acknowledges Molly's request and it emphasizes the Council's 50 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.800 readiness to review at any time the continuation of the sanctions measures contained in Resolution 51 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:56.720 twenty three seventy four. Mister President, Today's draft resolution comes at a critical 52 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:00.360 time for supporting implementation of the peace Agreement, in support of the peace and 53 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:05.000 stability of Marli and of the broader region. Thank you. I thank the 54 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:10.160 Representative of the United Arab Emirates for their statement. I now give the floor 55 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:18.720 to the Representative of the Russian Federation mister President. Today's meeting was preceded by 56 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:29.319 good work on the sanctions regime in Mali which met the needs of regional players 57 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:34.800 and the Security Council, But we have to note that the draft unfortunately does 58 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:42.079 not address these issues. We are convinced that the adoption by the Council in 59 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:48.879 of this with which flouts Bamaco's desire to get rid of the sanctioned regime, 60 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:55.600 will just undermine the sanctions regime and it will not help the Malian peace process. 61 00:06:55.720 --> 00:07:02.000 It would just further antagonize the parties. In fact, we all recall 62 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:09.160 the regime was the sanctions regime was set up by the Security Council specifically in 63 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:15.240 response to an official request by the Malian authorities and Soughts to help implement the 64 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:21.160 peace agreement. There is no doubt that the attempt to put guardianship on Mali 65 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:29.240 without the Malian authorities agreement is pointless. The use of the authority of the 66 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:35.560 Council to push forward approaches that are not suitable to the Mali will really hamper 67 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:43.959 further cooperation between BAMACO and UN and given the current withdrawal of MINUSMA, this 68 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:48.800 is particularly worrisome. So we must not allow that. Based on these considerations, 69 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:53.560 the Rudder Federation is not in a position to support this draft resolution. 70 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:59.720 We would urge our Council College to demonstrate wisdom and pragmatism and to support our 71 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:09.240 alternative resolution because it takes into consideration the African country's view that the sanctioned regime 72 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:15.560 needs to be maintained in order to uphold the peace Agreement. However, it 73 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:22.759 is fundamentally important that the UN Security Council sanctions are purely to deal with that 74 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:26.240 issue and not to be used as a way of foreign influence on Mali, 75 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.960 and that is something that the Panel of Experts of the Security Council has been 76 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.679 involved in. We do not agree with the opinion that the Panel is the 77 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:45.480 only thing available to the Council to address this. It is clear that for 78 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:50.480 one of its parties, for a whole number of reasons, the panel is 79 00:08:50.559 --> 00:09:01.279 no longer needed. And secondly, the Council needs to work in line with 80 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:07.440 the parameters and the resources available. However, it is only with the consent 81 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:13.960 of the participants in the peace process. So given this, we have the 82 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:22.200 alternative resolution to disband the Panel of Experts, and really we would say that 83 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:28.200 for the sanctions regime that will be the final extension in our resolution. Thank 84 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.879 you. I want to thank the Representative of the Russian Federation for their statement. 85 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:41.399 I shall put to the vote the draft resolution contained in document s backslash 86 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.159 twenty twenty three backslash six three eight, submitted by France and the United Arab 87 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:52.279 Emirates. Well, those in favor of the draft resolution contained in document s 88 00:09:52.279 --> 00:10:11.120 Slash twenty twenty three slash six three eight please raise their hand. Those against 89 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:26.200 abstention. The result of the voting is as follows, thirteen votes in favor, 90 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:41.919 one vote against, one abstention. The draft resolution has not been adopted 91 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:54.200 owing to the negative vote of a permanent member of the Council. I now 92 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.960 go the floor to those members of the Council who wished to make statements after 93 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:07.799 the vote, and I'll get the floor to the representative of Mozambique. You 94 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:18.559 know the floor. It's a president. Thank you for giving us the floor. 95 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:31.720 The political and security situation in Mali continues to be of great interest to 96 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:41.840 the A three and the why the international community in support of that engagement. 97 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:50.759 We have voted in favor of the renewal of the resolution extending the measures against 98 00:11:50.840 --> 00:12:01.960 those who take actions to abstract or a threatened the implementation of the two thousand 99 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:11.519 and fifteen Agreement on Peace and Reconciliation in Mali. The implementation of this agreement 100 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:22.279 remains critical for the long term peace and stability of Malay. D A three 101 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:30.960 has given due consideration to the requests of the transition Government of Mali, but 102 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:41.240 assesses that at this stage the measures should continue. We believe that the measures 103 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:50.200 established in support of the effective implementation of the peace Agreement would benefit Malay and 104 00:12:50.279 --> 00:13:01.279 the million people in their quest for peace, security and prosperity. With the 105 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:11.039 withdrawal of immunosuma and its potential negative impact on peace agreement, maintaining the measures 106 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:24.360 would help mitigate any adverse impact on the peace Agreement. We take this opportunity 107 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:35.879 to thank the copenholders, France and the United Arab Emirates for their continued efforts 108 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:48.519 during the negotiations to garner consensus. We deeply regret that a compromise was not 109 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:58.039 found. We further regret that due to the use of the Vito, the 110 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:07.879 resolution could not be adopted. Now more than ever, we should support and 111 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:18.159 encourage and intensification of efforts be higned the implementation of the twenty fifteen peace Agreement. 112 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:31.679 The international mediation led by Algeria, along with the regional organizations you know 113 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:41.759 US and the other UN agencies should be ready to support the mediation and monitoring 114 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:50.720 mechanisms with the concerned parties. The momentum of the implementation of the Algias Accord 115 00:14:52.720 --> 00:15:05.480 should be increased urgently. The peace, stability and territorial integrid of Mali depends 116 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:13.559 to Alige extant or need. I thank you as our president. I thank 117 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:20.320 the representative of the Government of al Zambique. I now give the floor to 118 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:26.399 the representative of the United Kingdom the other for so thank you President. The 119 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:31.279 United Kingdom thanks France and the UAE for all their efforts on this resolution, 120 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.279 despite having to make a number of difficult compromises. We voted in favor of 121 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.799 the resolution because of our strong support for the renewal of the Malis sanctions regime 122 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:48.000 and the Panel of Experts mandates. These are important Security Council tools in support 123 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:54.000 of peace and stability in Mali. For this reason, the United Kingdom deeply 124 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.440 regrets Russia's reckless use of the veto. This will reduce the Council's oversight and 125 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:07.559 engage on Marley's peace process at a critical juncture against the backdrop of Musma's withdrawal 126 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.279 from Marli. What we need now is renewed commitment to maintain the peace agreement 127 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:19.720 in the face of violations of the ceasefire in Timbuktu and Kiddal regions. The 128 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:25.120 United Kingdom cannot support Russia's proposal to dissolve the Panel of Experts on Marli, 129 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:30.200 nor its attempt to predetermine the termination of sanctions measures. We pay tribute to 130 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:36.039 the dedication of the members of the Panel, whose rigorous work in challenging challenging 131 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:42.480 circumstances we firmly support. We remain deeply concerned about the worsening political, humanitarian 132 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:48.080 and security situation in Marli. Despite the outcome of today's vote, the UK 133 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:55.720 remains committed to supporting Marley's peace Agreement and pursuing accountability for human rights violations and 134 00:16:55.879 --> 00:17:00.080 abuses. Thank you. I thank the Representative of the United Kingdom for their 135 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:04.119 statement. I now give the floor to the Representative of Switzerland. You have 136 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:11.480 the floormat. Thank you, mister President. I wish to begin by thanking 137 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:18.079 the penholders for their facilitation and their major efforts in achieving a consensus. We 138 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:23.119 also acknowledge the commitment of the members of this Council. Switzerland voted in favor 139 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:27.920 of the draft resolution because we believe, like the vast majority of other members 140 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:33.680 do, that it represents an acceptable compromise. Switzerland regrets the fact that the 141 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:38.400 use of a veto by a single member of the Security Council calls into question 142 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:45.440 the renewal of these sanctions regime. These sanctions aim to support Malli in implementing 143 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.519 the Peace and Reconciliation Agreement. The decision is all the more regrettable given the 144 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:55.960 backdrop of growing insecurity leading to population displacements, and given the departure of Minosma 145 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:03.240 Under tense conditions, the adoption of today's resolution aimed to maintain sanctions measures which 146 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:08.319 themselves aimed to encourage the implementation of the Peace and Reconciliation Agreement. The maintenance 147 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:15.160 and implementation of this agreement by all parties is essential in order to achieve stability 148 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.079 and security in the long term in Mali and in the region. This is 149 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:23.440 also the conviction of Switzerland, which has been present in Mali for over forty 150 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:27.200 years now. As such, we will continue to work with the Malian authorities 151 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:33.799 and with all stakeholders to achieve this goal. The progress that Mali has made 152 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:41.759 with the international community must not be imperiled. In the interests of protecting the 153 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.400 population and peace and security in Mali, Switzerland will continue its engagement in a 154 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:51.799 constructive fashion to find a compromised text. We call on all members to do 155 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:57.559 the same. We particularly point to the fact that when this Council adopts sanctions 156 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:04.559 measures, its decision should take into account the information provided by the Group of 157 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:11.440 Experts which assesses the implementation of sanctions measures, including the humanitarian, political and 158 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.799 security situation. Given the withdrawal of Munisma, we call upon the Malian authorities 159 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:25.039 and all stakeholders to mobilize their political capital to enable a peaceful transition and to 160 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:30.559 work towards stability in the region. I thank you and thank the Representative of 161 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.960 Switzerland for their statement. I now give the floor to Representative of the Russian 162 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:44.400 Federation the other floor. Mister President Russia voted against the draft resolution on extending 163 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:49.160 the Malian sanctioned regime. Unfortunately, despite the fact that we repeatedly urged for 164 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:55.519 a constructive approach and a sensible compromise to be reached. The text did not 165 00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:00.000 in any way taking a consideration the concerns of the Mali side or the Russi 166 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.160 Confederation's position. Before the vote, we clearly laid out our reasons that were 167 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:10.160 behind our decision to vote against. We didn't hide these views during the negotiation 168 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:15.039 process. We worked completely transparency, based on a specific proposals with a desire 169 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:19.599 to achieve an acceptable compromise. There was every chance an opportunity this would work 170 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:22.799 right up until the last minute. However, we will get to note that 171 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:27.960 the position of the Russian Federation was not taken into consideration, nor was any 172 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:33.720 substantive effort to accommodate the official request of Mali either. Therefore, our vote 173 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:38.599 against was highly unlikely to be unexpected to anybody. We do hope that in 174 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:47.200 the future sponsors of resolutions will make a top priority wisdom and pragmatism to avoid 175 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:55.279 unnecessary confrontation in the Security Council, in particular in circumstances when compromise agreement was 176 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:00.480 completely achievable if the political will had been there. Thank you. I thank 177 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:04.160 the representative of the Russian Federation for their statement I now give the floor to 178 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:10.119 the Representative of Albania. Thank you, Thank you, President, and the 179 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:15.559 Albania would like to thank also France and the UAE for their leadership during the 180 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:19.880 challenging negotiations on the renewal of the sanction regime in Mali. We voted in 181 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:25.960 favor of the resolution as we see value in maintaining the targeted sanctions and the 182 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.480 Panel of Experts. While the current text does not address many of our concerns, 183 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:37.759 we made consensions in spirit of the compromise. President. Discussions within this 184 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:42.880 Chamber earlier this week highlighted the fragility of the peace Agreement and the csfire violations 185 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:52.440 following hostile activities between the Malian transitional government and signatory armed groups. As menusement 186 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.680 departs, it is imperative the Security Council maintain its focus on the situation and 187 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:02.880 the implementation of the agreement, which remains a crucial instrument for securing long term 188 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:07.519 peace and stability in Mali. The sanction regime and the Panel of expert as 189 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:15.359 a crucial role to play in assisting Mali in implementing the peace Agreement. Therefore, 190 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:21.319 we regret that one member used its veto power to day preventing the Council 191 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:26.039 from reaching unity on this matter. I thank you, thank Youania for their 192 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:32.319 statement. I now get the floor to the representative of Japan. Thank you. 193 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.559 The two thousand and fifteen piece Agreement is the only existing and viable framework 194 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:44.839 to achieve durable peace and reconciliation in Mali. Now that MENUSMA must withdraw from 195 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:48.960 Mali, it is imperative to safeguard and promote the implementation of the agreement. 196 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:55.559 And Furthermore, any action that japatizes the security and stability of Mali is a 197 00:22:55.640 --> 00:23:00.920 concern of the Security Council as they are inextricably linked to those of the Sahel 198 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:07.960 and West African region. Such actions include transnational organized crimes, abstraction of humanitarian 199 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:15.279 assistance and abuse, and violation of international human rights and humanitarian law. Many 200 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:19.039 sanction regime plays a vital role in both of these regards. Therefore, Japan 201 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:25.079 deeply regrets that the Security Council failed to adopt the draft resolution due to the 202 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:29.839 veto by one Council member. I wish to remind that the members of this 203 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:36.200 Council have a solemn duty for the maintenance of international peace and security. Despite 204 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.680 the regrettable outcome, we need to keep on working for the peace and security 205 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:45.880 of Africa and Japan is ready to do so with other Council members. Thank 206 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:51.200 you Sandor of Japan for their statement. I now get the floor to the 207 00:23:51.279 --> 00:24:03.119 representative of China to mister President. China's position on the issue of Security Council 208 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:07.880 sanctions is consistent and clear. China always believes that sanctions are a means to 209 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:12.319 an end, not an end in themselves. Sanctions imposed by the Security Council 210 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:18.759 should not be indefinite, but should be reviewed, adjusted and lifted periodically in 211 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:26.319 light off the situation of the country's concerned. The Council established the sanctions measures 212 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:32.440 in twenty seventeen at the request of the government of Mali. Relevant measures have 213 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:37.839 played an important role under the circumstances of that time in monitoring cease fire and 214 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:42.079 supporting the implementation of the peace Agreement in Mali. In recent years, the 215 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:48.880 situation in Mali has continued to change. The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Mali, 216 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:52.799 Mister Diopp, recently wrote to the President of the Security Council expressing the 217 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.880 view that the sanction measures could no longer meet the needs of the situation and 218 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:03.279 expressing this atifaction with the work of depend of experts of the Sanctions Committee. 219 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:10.000 Mister President, I'd like to point out that this time around, the Security 220 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:15.799 Council had the opportunity to conduct in depth discussions and make reasonable adjustments to the 221 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:22.640 relevant sanctions measures, and China had also conducted active interaction with parties concerned and 222 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:33.160 put forward positive proposals appealing to give diplomatic mediation a chance and more time. 223 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:38.400 However, it is regrettable that some members pushed through a vote that ignored the 224 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:42.759 desire and efforts of other members to continue the mediation efforts and a process, 225 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:53.160 an outcome that neither contributes to the resolution of the modey and issue nor helps 226 00:25:53.480 --> 00:26:02.680 the Council to play a positive and constructive role. Lastly, I wish to 227 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:07.400 appeal once again that maintaining peace and stability in Mali and the region as a 228 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.799 whole is in the common interest of the international community. The international community and 229 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:18.680 the UN should continue to provide assistance and support based on respecting the sovereignty and 230 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:26.240 leadership of the country's concern. China will continue to support Mali in safeguarding its 231 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:32.279 sovereignty territorial integrity, national security, and stability, and will continue to make 232 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:37.359 further contributions to the peaceful development of Mali through bilateral and multilateral channels. Thank 233 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:42.319 you, mister President. I thank the Representative of China for their statement. 234 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.839 I shall me I'll make a statement in my capacity as representative the United States. 235 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:55.279 The United States is disappointed by the outcome of today's vote. Once again, 236 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.319 Russia has imposed its will on the Council in the face of the position 237 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.200 of countries from the region. The Council's failure to agree on the urgent and 238 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:11.680 necessary renewal of Mali's sanctions regime due to Russia's actions threatens peace and security not 239 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:18.359 just in Mali, but the entire region. We voted in favor of this 240 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.200 text because the Panel of Experts reporting is a central source of information on the 241 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:27.880 situation in Mali. The travel ban and asset freeze remained necessary to stem the 242 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:34.119 illicit financial transfers and ill gotten gains both from Mali and into a region in 243 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:41.559 which numerous malign actors operate and have sadly proliferated. Too many people continue to 244 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:47.559 suffer from the ongoing violence and due to Russia's actions. This Council has failed 245 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:52.960 to renew some of the most important international initiatives for addressing this crisis. The 246 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:59.160 provisions of this resolution remained critical to peace and security in Mali. The United 247 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:03.680 States is committed working constructively with the Security Account with Security Council colleagues in the 248 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.519 coming days to achieve a mandate renewal that accurately reflects the dire situation on the 249 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:15.920 ground and this Council's primary role to maintain international peace and security. I now 250 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:22.559 resume my function as President of the Council. Council is ready to proceed to 251 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:29.079 the vote on the next draft resolution before it, I shall now make a 252 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:36.839 statement in my capacity is represented of the United States, we find the Russian 253 00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:45.079 draft for the sanctions regime disingenuous and lamentable. First, Russia's draft was introduced 254 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:51.920 with no opportunity for discussion or negotiation. Although the text calls for maintaining the 255 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.920 travel ban and asset freezes, the draft ends the panel of experts reporting mandate. 256 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:02.559 One also must question why Russia is seeks to renew the sanctions for only 257 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:07.519 six months and then at a sunset clause. The situation in Mali requires our 258 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:15.000 sustained support. The text Russia is put forward falls lamentably short in that objective. 259 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.000 Following the withdrawal of MNUSMA, the Panel of Experts is the only UN 260 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:26.400 mechanism left to monitor and report on human rights abuses as well as facilitate efforts 261 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.519 to implement the peace Agreement. The panel's elimination, as called for by Russia, 262 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.880 would render the regime ineffective and not useful for Moli. Russia seeks to 263 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:45.440 eliminate the Panel of Experts mandate to stifle publication of uncomfortable truths about Wagner's actions 264 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:51.559 in Mali which require attention. Russia is putting its own interests above those of 265 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:57.440 the region. Russia's repeated refusals to engage in negotiations, followed by its submission 266 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:03.400 of an alternative text the eleventh hour, our egregious breaks in procedure which failed 267 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:11.559 to respect the integrity and transparency essential to Council deliberations. It is for these 268 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.960 reasons that the United States must oppose the Russian drafted resolution, and we urge 269 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.759 others to do so as well. For the sake of the Malian people. 270 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:29.000 I now resume my function as President of the Council. Oh, the Russian 271 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:34.440 Federation has asked for the floor. Please, mister President, I didn't intend 272 00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:41.160 to take the floor, but I really have to make one clarifications in your 273 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:48.839 statement in your national competee, you say that you urge Council colleagues to demonstrate 274 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:56.599 wisdom and pragmatism, and it was based on the African countries. The African 275 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.440 this is what we said in fact that we do need to maintain that, 276 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:11.200 and the US delegations talked about a six month period. I just want that 277 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.799 to be clear for the members of the Council, so maintain it, to 278 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:22.839 try to harness it to help implement the Algiers Agreement. But it's very important 279 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:29.000 for sanctions to be targeted to resolve specifically that issue and not to turn into 280 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:38.039 a instrument for the external imposition of blanket solutions on Mali, and in particular 281 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.480 the panel of experts, the panel of experts we've seen in Guinea Bissau, 282 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:49.119 for example, what it did and nothing dramatic happened after that. So please 283 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:53.720 do heed our words and vote in favor of this draft. And I would 284 00:31:53.720 --> 00:32:00.720 like to say once again to the US representative from this mic that if this 285 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:07.480 is not adopted, then there's no coming back, rather to discussing any further 286 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.519 resolution on this matter. Thank you. I thank the Representative of the Russian 287 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.960 Federation for their statement. I shall now put to the vote the draft resolution 288 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:22.160 contained in document s Slash twenty twenty three slash sixty three nine submitted by the 289 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:29.039 Russian Federation. Will those in favor of the draft resolution contained in document s 290 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:45.200 Slash twenty twenty three slash sixty three nine please raise their hand? Those against 291 00:32:52.880 --> 00:33:09.559 abstentions. The result of the voting is as follows, one vote in favor, 292 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:24.759 one vote against, thirteen abstentions. The draft resolution has not been adopted, 293 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:32.880 having failed to obtain the required number of votes. I now give the 294 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.319 floor to those members of the Council who wished to make statements after the vote. 295 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:47.640 I give the floor to the Representative of France. Thank you, mister 296 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:53.839 President. France deeply regrets the veto used by Russia to prevent the adoption of 297 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:59.759 the draft resolution renewing the sanctions regime in Mali. France, jointly with the 298 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:04.720 Night Air Emirates, has worked tirelessly in recent recent weeks to present a balanced 299 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:09.800 text following the conclusion of an in depth consultation process which listened to the views 300 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:15.559 of all member states of these Security Council. We are delighted at the unanimous 301 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:20.199 support we've seen from the African members of this Council. In particular, whilst 302 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:27.159 Russia very regularly underscores the importance of cooperation among states based on a relationship between 303 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.880 equals, we regret the fact that it has put to the vote a draft 304 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.320 text which was not subject to discussion among the members of the Security Council on 305 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.840 a topic as crucial as this one, at a juncture as crucial as this 306 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.280 one for Marley, the region and the implementation of the Peace Agreement. The 307 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:51.639 choice made by Russia follows the participation of Wagner Meseries in fighting in Beer and 308 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:57.039 in Aryan airstrikes at Anna Fees, which imperil the Seaspire and the Peace Agreement. 309 00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:01.199 I recall that the members of the Panel in its undated includes investigation into 310 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:07.400 human light violations committed across all all of the Malian territory and looks at perpetrator 311 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.880 of those crimes. Thank you France for their statement. I now give the 312 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:20.280 floor to the representative of China. Thank yous to President, I wish to 313 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:31.880 emphasize that China built in abstation against the resolution by the Russian Federation. It 314 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.320 is all for technical reasons, because we haven't received instructed from our capital. 315 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.800 I have to part out that with the card to some of the content and 316 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:47.639 elements in the Russian draft, China certainly supports all those elements contained in resolution 317 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.679 with support and understand them. Thank you. I thank the representative of China 318 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.719 for their statement. I now give the floor to the Representative of Malta. 319 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.440 Malta delivers this explanation of vote in line of the two resolutions presented to this 320 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:09.119 council. Mortar Tanks, France I United Arab Emirates for their tireless efforts and 321 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:15.639 extensive consultations on the former text towards an outcome which continues to support Mali's security 322 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:22.599 and stability. We believed that the draft prepared by the Kopens reflected this and 323 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.599 this is why we voted in favor of it. Our position also reflects our 324 00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:31.519 steadfast support in retaining the sanctions regime and the mandate of the Panel of Experts 325 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:37.079 at a time when they are needed the most. We deeply regret that the 326 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:43.599 Kopens text was vetoed by the Russian Federation and that an alternative text was tabled 327 00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:47.000 by the Russian Federation. We have abstained on the second draft as it seeks 328 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:52.280 to eliminate these same measures that would have assisted Mali on its path towards genuine 329 00:36:52.320 --> 00:37:00.440 security and stability. In light of Minosma's departure from Mali, the sanctions regime 330 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:06.719 plays a critical role as the UN's sole source of monitoring the implementation of the 331 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:12.920 Peace Agreement. This approach also aligns with the Security Council's duty to uphold peace 332 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:20.360 and security in Mali by enforcing measures against any actor hindering the agreement's implementation. 333 00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:27.639 President, as the situation in Mali remains deeply concerning, we urge the Malian 334 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.880 authorities and all parties to the agreement to respect the Peace Agreement. We condemn 335 00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:39.079 all violations of international human rights law and international humanitarian law, as well as 336 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:45.000 violence against women and children. Given the outconjuring the session, we resolved to 337 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:50.480 continue engaging in discussions to find their way forward. I thank you the Representative 338 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:58.280 Malta for their statement. There are no more names inscribed on the list of 339 00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:13.840 speakers. This meeting is adjourned. So we heard from the United Nations Security 340 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:24.039 Council on resolutions for Molly and how they proceed. The United Nations is is 341 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:30.400 a peaceful organization and they actually do do their best to try to stay out 342 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:39.880 of any type of conflict and they work towards ensuring that there's a stable government 343 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:47.280 for the for the people at hand, that it whatever whatever that looks like, 344 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:55.199 that the people themselves want to put in place. They they try to 345 00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:02.599 take the neutral stance and and things so that things become stable and providing humanitarian 346 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:08.719 efforts for those who actually need it. And Molly at this point in time 347 00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:16.440 does need those humanitarian efforts to stay in place. O food things like that 348 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:25.920 are actually needed and that particular region of Western or to say, yeah, 349 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:35.679 Western Africa needs the help and they need the food that supplies and everything because 350 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:45.639 of ongoing not just political issues but also because of weather and other issues that 351 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:52.440 are that are happening in the area and to help control things like infectious disease 352 00:39:53.440 --> 00:40:01.760 as well as malnutrition and starvation. So the UN peacekeepers do need to stay 353 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:09.840 safe and they do need to actually ensure that the mission can be can continue 354 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:19.360 with little hindrance so that people have a stable environment to live in. 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