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However, it was based on a radio play 18 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:14,639 from November eighth, nineteen forty nine, and the title is The Big Bar. 19 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,479 Ladies and gentlemen. The story you are about to see is true. 20 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:51,599 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. This is the city, 21 00:02:52,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Los Angeles, California. I work here, I'm a copy. It was 22 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Tuesday, February third, was cold in Los Angeles. We were working the 23 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,360 night watch out a homicide detail. My partner is Frank Smith. The boss's 24 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,479 Captain Lorman. My name's Friday. It was eighteen minutes past two am when 25 00:03:12,479 --> 00:03:15,479 we got to number fifteen San Jose Street, the green Light tavern. A 26 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,400 killer was loose in the city. His weapon, a thirty eight caliber revolved 27 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:32,759 his objective robbery and murder. Ambulance on the way, Jarge can't use it. 28 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:36,240 They're both dead, wife and husband. You call a crime lab there 29 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,199 on the way. Okay, we better take a look in that back room. 30 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:46,800 Right is the way you found him, Carley. Nothing's been touched. 31 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:50,879 Safe was up when we got here, cleaned out, shot twice through the 32 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:52,840 back, both of them. They both dead. When you got here, 33 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:55,520 the old man was she wasn't. Did she say anything? She said the 34 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,000 whole guy wanted all the money in the safe. The old man gave it 35 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:00,560 to him, pleaded with him to shoot. Yeah, well, I was 36 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,479 handing over the money. The old man dropped a ten dollar bill. He 37 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:06,240 said he was sorry, stooped to pick it up. The guy shout him 38 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,240 through the back. The woman said, she turned to grab her husband. 39 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,960 Guy shot her through the back. She get a description. She didn't last 40 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:17,160 that long. What were their names? Mister and missus Enrique Couta. They 41 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:21,720 ran the place, good people, they always are. How much money the 42 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:30,480 guy got? Not enough to pay the check. Sergeant Allen and the crew 43 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,680 from the crime lab arrived and went to work. They dusted for fingerprints, 44 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:38,199 took pictures of the back room, the safe, the victims, Every object 45 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,879 that could have any possible tie in with the crime was photographed. Captain Norman 46 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,839 was with him. Looks like that job over on the East Side last month's 47 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:49,399 kipper. Same a mo kid with Ramsey get the witness. Yeah he worked 48 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:51,920 for the Katas, didn't he? Yeah? Bar boy, handy man. 49 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:56,079 You know Ramsey's getting no place with him? What the matter? Spanish can't 50 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,319 speak English? Well, how's your Spanish? Frank still high school Spanish? 51 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:05,720 All right, let's give it a try. Is he the only one here 52 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:11,079 when we got here? Yeah, trabaja komar boy. They're done senor three 53 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:18,319 months. Mister come saa pompeio in casa. The whisper is what's he saying, 54 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,600 Frank? Well, his name is Juan Padillo. He's been working here 55 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:25,839 for about three months. He lives next door in the rooming house. Claims 56 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:28,600 he got along fine with mister Kata. Ask him to tell us how it 57 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:33,920 happened. Everything one kerem saber exact demente come past soesto deigns the toto lo 58 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:44,120 ke se queda of tempo ka tanta henta abiya kennis ran totos lost ditayas tomasu 59 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:55,240 tiempo see timp mister andrente. He says it happened around closing time, five 60 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,279 minutes to two. Mister Katerra had locked up the front door. Sigo one 61 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:12,720 see you LaVar samos limp piano and sulugar LaVar. Lavara one was behind the 62 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:15,120 bar with missus Katerra. They were cleaning up the glasses and pulling them away. 63 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:18,079 There was only one customer left. He was sitting at the end of 64 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,959 the bar. That stow him back there. Go ahead, Frank Siga one 65 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:29,600 march, i'm a Pete. It's Tuaki simp, he says. The customer's 66 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,639 name was Pete. Was then last night, the night before, I always 67 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:41,160 stayed until closing time. One siga Senora Restor, he said, Cordras Lain 68 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:48,319 Stai Sto Marcaniell. He stimed Repete Muto. He says, about two o'clock, 69 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,959 missus Kota took the money from the cash Re just turned went into the 70 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,279 back room. Lofiicina. Yeah, in the office, and mister Kata sat 71 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:58,879 down and had a drink with this guy Pete. All right, what happened 72 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:08,959 then? Aweg okay pass When a joke in Pilo's Bassos comunos quantus minutosa stub 73 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:18,839 a kroki comosinko minutos cocondo rio bang bang caeso andansas the vo bang bang and 74 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:27,839 says Correa beer mister and missus coos and lsuelo a'bi a Sandri it's dombre pizza 75 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,879 infrently, what's he saying? Frank, he says, A couple of minutes 76 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,240 past two, he went back to the store room with a case of empty 77 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:35,839 bottles. It was back there about five minutes when he heard gunshots. He 78 00:07:35,959 --> 00:07:40,160 ran out and saw Tearo and his wife on the floor. The skuy Pete 79 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,639 was going out the door la porta infrente. Yeah, the front door, 80 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,079 just a minute where the conna sayer. I asked the ombre Pete, si 81 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,920 love de nuevo? Who sing? He says he no Pete if he saw 82 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,079 him again? Does he anything about him? Where he lives, where he 83 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:58,120 hangs out? Sabbees don de viva pete one, don de coome, don 84 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:05,279 de semi. No, it's st Pete was in there for the past three 85 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,759 nights, That's all he knows. Ask hi if he remembers what Pete was 86 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:13,480 drinking when you Yeah, one said querta lo esta ombre Pete stab at tomando 87 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:24,959 look stabiendo s senor Scotchi water plain water, scotch and water. Drank the 88 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,279 same thing all night, same guy. Well, it ties in with that 89 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,839 other job over on the east side, wherever the guy works unconsciously seems to 90 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,960 order the same thing to drink. Then they dispense me, dispenser your official. 91 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,879 Y'll go, mask, I'll go, Masqueliso mine. You remember something 92 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:50,519 else? One the k masser, the musica cambio, He says, Pete 93 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:58,080 played the jukebox alone, signor miss Melodia, the Welta, the one said 94 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,519 she said, your back, wud benga calli signori? What's he doing? 95 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,399 He wants to show us the jukebox he said, he played the same tune 96 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:15,799 all night a senior official esta, the Welt the wilt funny man. That's 97 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,960 the one. Number fourteen two might be another one of his habits. Let's 98 00:09:22,000 --> 00:10:00,559 play it. Go ahead, you got dame, thank mm hmmm. See 99 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,480 is ice? He says, that's the one. Must be in every juke 100 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,639 box in town. What does that prove? It was not going to be 101 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,039 very much. Helped a lot of people like that too. Only one man 102 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:22,360 who murdered to it. Ten minutes past three am, Tuesday, February third, 103 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:24,559 Captain Lorman Frank and I left the green Light tavern and we took one 104 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:28,200 video the young bartender back to the office with us with the help of an 105 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,919 interpreter. A police stenographer took down his statement and then we showed him three 106 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,960 volumes of coming out mugshots. Padillo and Frank started looking through him. Captain 107 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,679 Lormon and I went across the street to the old City Jail building, the 108 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:43,879 crime lamb to see Russ camp and ballistics. How's it going, Russ? 109 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,639 I was still working on It was pretty tough. Why what's the matter? 110 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,759 Right here? This is a bullet that killed that east Side bar on our 111 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,440 last month. Yeah, from a thirty eight Colt special. We know that 112 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:58,000 it's a metal piercing bullet and slugs some good shape. We weren't that lucky 113 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:01,960 tonight? How do you mean rust? Well, here's the four bullets they 114 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:03,840 fired in the back room of the green Light tavern tonight. What happened to 115 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:07,480 them must have had a heavy load. They penetrated the bodies and buried themselves 116 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:11,480 in the wall and floor, badly deformed. Yeah, it's going to take 117 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:13,039 some work. I can't tell you. I tried, now, what can 118 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:16,159 you tell us, Russ? Well, I checked the bullets, examined the 119 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:20,600 lands markings. They got a left hand twist and they came from a Colt. 120 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,039 Yeah, thirty eight Colt special same type gun killed that man last month. 121 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,399 Enough to go to court with visits. Enough for us right now, 122 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,639 we should get a make on one of these four bullets. Take a little 123 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,600 time. You see these two slugs, lands, grooves, straations. They're 124 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:39,279 pretty badly mutilated. There's no chance for any fancy work there. But we 125 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:41,639 still have a good bit left down here at the base of the bullet. 126 00:11:41,759 --> 00:11:43,720 With any kind of a break, you can match them, I hope. 127 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:48,879 So you have a lead, Joe, Yeah, I got it, Prime, 128 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:54,600 I have Friday, Jeaff Rank Yeah, bry A Way Smith Yeah. 129 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:07,399 One. Patio just identified the killer. There's his picture, there's his package. 130 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,639 It's one sure, that's the right man. He spent some monsieur ld 131 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:22,120 hoss. That's Agura as to slumb, what's he senor essay? Let's choice? 132 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:26,200 Be sure now. According to his OAR card, Albert J. Stacy, 133 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:28,799 White, male American, five ft, eleven hundred and seventy pounds, 134 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,399 brown hair, blue eyes. Here's a red flag in his index card. 135 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,799 Violation of pro got out of San Quentin eighteen months ago. Burglary, auto 136 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:39,720 theft, armed robbery. He's used a gun before. That makes him number 137 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:52,679 one by four am an APB in a radiogram on Albert Stacey had been dispatched. 138 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,960 The man hunt got underway at ten o'clock that morning. Sergeant Allen reported 139 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,360 on his findings at the scene of the murder. No fingerprints, no additional 140 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:05,200 physical evidence. We counted on getting the suspects prints from the glass that he 141 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,360 was drinking from at the bar, but either Missus Kotera or Juan had unknowingly 142 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:11,919 given the killer his first big break. All the glasses had been washed, 143 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,399 wiped, and neatly put away before the shooting. The Prince had been destroyed 144 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,360 in the process. Just after lunch, Russ Camp and Ballistics came up with 145 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:24,960 an answer. The bullets which killed mister and missus Kotera came from the same 146 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:28,159 gun which killed the East Side bar owner a month before, a thirty eight 147 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:39,759 Colt Special homicide Laman, Yes, Carley, where good? Thanks? I 148 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:46,759 just picked up Stacy. They're bringing him in. Six pm, Tuesday, 149 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:50,200 February third, Albert Stacey was booked at the Main Jail on suspicion of one 150 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,840 to eighty seven PC. Murdered on his person was found a thirty eight Colt 151 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:58,759 Special. The gun was immediately taken to the crime lab for examination. Stacy 152 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,000 was up to the interrogation room. Frank and I questioned him for four hours. 153 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,679 He denied any connection with the two robberies and the murders. At ten 154 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,279 o'clock that night, we set out for coffee and sandwiches. Stacey ate heartily. 155 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:13,879 He was worried, but he didn't have the attitude of a trap murderer. 156 00:14:15,159 --> 00:14:18,000 The questioning went on. Midnight came. Stacy hung on to his story. 157 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:20,559 He refused to say where he was at the time of the killings. 158 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:24,240 He had nothing to do with the robberies, nothing to do with the murders. 159 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,039 At four am, Frank and I took time out for a smoke. 160 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,039 He's bound to break. He's got to. Either he's a great actor or 161 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:33,879 I'm tired. He doesn't strike me as a guilty man. Well, I'm 162 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:37,399 with you, But what about his record and the mugshot? The kid picked 163 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:45,519 that? See how's it going? Nothing? Us Campus called about Stacy's gun. 164 00:14:45,679 --> 00:14:48,240 Yeah, they were found the right man, We got the wrong gun. 165 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Eleven am, Wednesday, February eleventh, we were refused to complaint against 166 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,399 Albert Stacey by the District Attorney's office. On the grounds that we were unable 167 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,600 to present sufficient evidence against him. We then filed on Stacy for violation of 168 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:13,919 the State Penal Code, Chapter three thirty nine Statutes of nineteen twenty three, 169 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,440 as amended nineteen forty seven, sub to an ex convict with a gun. 170 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,679 We put a hold on Stacey for his parole officer. He was to be 171 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,679 returned to San Quentin. Frank and I started all over again from the beginning. 172 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,759 A complete description of the suspect, along with his method of operation, 173 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,360 was distributed to every tavern and cocktail lounge in the city. A special detail 174 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:35,639 of men from the Metropolitan Division was assigned to stand a special watch between the 175 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:39,279 hours of midnight and three am. During the month that followed, we set 176 00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:46,159 trap after trap for the killer. He failed to take the bait. Another 177 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,320 month passed. We watched, and we waited. One am, Saturday, 178 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,000 April fourth, Frank and I were cruising the central area. Attention all units 179 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:58,440 all units A two eleven and shooting in the bar on the corner of Brown 180 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:02,840 View and Allison. Eleven and shooting in the bar on the corner of Bell 181 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:07,720 View and Allison. Suspect left the scene on foot. Suspect is wearing black 182 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:15,200 quote light trousers one R five take the call quote three let's go one Katie 183 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,840 one k oh, one K eighty. Go ahead on that call of Belleview 184 00:16:19,879 --> 00:16:22,720 and Allison. We are in the vicinity. We will have him one K 185 00:16:22,879 --> 00:16:29,600 eighty. Roger one KTI. Any further description on the two eleven suspect one 186 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,639 K eighty, well for the details. Suspect wearing black quote light trousers left 187 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:40,879 the scene on foot O three, let's roll it. Two minutes later, 188 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Frank and I got to the Windsor buffet. The robbery victims were the owners, 189 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:52,039 mister and Missus Ernest Weinberger. Missus Lienberger did all the talking. One 190 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,120 five am. Frank and I continue questioning mister and Missus Linberger. Their description 191 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,879 of the suspect, his m O and all of his actions matched those of 192 00:16:57,919 --> 00:17:02,120 the man who had shot down Missus from Missus Katara two months before and the 193 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:06,200 east Side Barrow a month before that. The Weinbergers told us that the suspect 194 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:10,440 drank only Scotch in plain water and that he played the jukebox incessantly the same 195 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:14,200 tune. Funny man, that's right, funny man, that's what he played. 196 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,359 I got a good look at his wrist too, his right wrist. 197 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,480 What about it? He's got a picture tattooed on the underside. What kind 198 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:26,240 of a pictures? Like a cat? A black cat? Did you have 199 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:29,000 any chance to have the glass that he was drinking out of? Yeah, 200 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:33,000 it's over by the door, smashed the bets sure, I threw it at 201 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:38,559 him when he ran out the door. Two twelve am, Frank and I 202 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,720 drove mister and Missus Limberger to the office where we took their statements and filled 203 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,160 out a crime report. After that, we went down the hall to R 204 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,960 and I and had one of the officers on duty checked through the oddity file 205 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:51,599 for us that said Joe the only guy in the file with the tattoo of 206 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:56,359 a cat on his wrist. Yeah, he's got a different tattoo on his 207 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:02,839 left wrist. He's only got one name, Wesley R. Gutridge. We 208 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,359 pulled his mugshot. He was almost a dead ringer for Stacy. We compared 209 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,880 descriptions. They matched almost perfectly. A radiogram was sent out on him and 210 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,559 communications broadcast to Want for murder Captain Lorman. Frank and I checked our informants 211 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:21,960 and all our available sources of information for the whereabouts of Wesley Gutridge. There 212 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:25,400 was no trace of him. Two days passed. We continued cruising the central 213 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,960 and Hollandpech Park area. Unit run A five up for seven KMA three sixty 214 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:37,559 seven. Correction seven I six that's two four two one Beverly Boulevard are probably 215 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:45,240 now KMA three six seven. Attention all units. Attention all units at Fifth 216 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:51,359 and Winston. The bar at two eleven and shooting code three. Suspect left 217 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,839 the scene on foot. Suspect was headed west on Fifth Street. Attention all 218 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:10,000 units. All units at fifth and one. The name of the place was 219 00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:14,319 Doris and Jim's. Inside we found a man lying on the floor, face 220 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,480 down. He was dead. There were three bullet wounds in his back. 221 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,400 Jim gave him the money, every penny of it he had. Jim gave 222 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:29,440 it to him. He didn't never insure him to kill him. We gave 223 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:44,960 him the money. Shut that thing off with him. Five am, Tuesday, 224 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,960 April seventh, Frank and I sat in on a meeting with Captain Warman. 225 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,559 Plans for a citywide dragnet operation to apprehend the killer were discussed and formulated. 226 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,480 By seven am, an overall plan was set in motion. Every available 227 00:19:56,519 --> 00:20:00,680 man was ordered up for special duty in the Central area, the Newton Street 228 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:04,039 Division, the University Division, and the Holland Beckon Highland Park areas. Additional 229 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,599 men from the Metropolitan Division, plus an extra complement of forty five radio and 230 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,240 detective cars, were assigned to the manhunt. The search for Gutridges went on 231 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,839 all that day, all that night into the following morning. No sign of 232 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:21,440 him. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, still no signamim. The 233 00:20:21,519 --> 00:20:26,359 twenty four hour watch continued five days, ten days, two weeks. Tuesday, 234 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,200 April twenty eight, it was the end of the third week. Our 235 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,359 relief showed up a few minutes before midnight. Before we went home, Frank 236 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,319 and I stopped by the office to check with Captain Lorman. They told us 237 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,599 in homicide that he was down the hall in communications all units old units, 238 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:48,200 but's still in skipper just a minute all units two eleven and a shooting in 239 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:53,599 the bar at twelve thirty one North three Month one two three one North three 240 00:20:53,680 --> 00:21:00,200 Month one K six one Adam's call CO three one K six one Roger K 241 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,519 six one. That's Ramsey and Crowley. I mean all units. Two eleven 242 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,640 suspect has been identified by victim as west League Guttridge murder suspect the twelve hundred 243 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,519 block of North freemonts in the stakeout area. Isn't it right on the edge 244 00:21:11,519 --> 00:21:23,240 of it? I think, yeah, here it is right here. Petridge 245 00:21:23,319 --> 00:21:26,519 is going to have a rough time. The neighborhood here should be pretty well 246 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:30,160 covered. All units on the two eleven un shooting at twelve thirty one North 247 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:36,039 Fremont. Suspect left scene in a light ten nineteen fifty Ford sedan license seven 248 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,759 Tom seven nine seven to two seven Tom seven to nine seven to two. 249 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Suspect headed south on Fremont. Suspect headed south on Premont. One K sixty 250 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:52,799 one, one K sixty one. We have spotted two eleven suspect ten Fort 251 00:21:52,839 --> 00:21:56,559 sedan licensed seven Toms seven nine seven to two. Suspect is traveling at high 252 00:21:56,599 --> 00:22:02,839 rate of speed west on Third now crossing Lucas. We're in pursuit one K 253 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,319 six one Roger. All units on all frequencies stand by. One K sixty 254 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,200 one is in pursuit of two eleven murder suspect. Suspect is heading west on 255 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:17,079 Third Street, now crossing Lucas Avenue. One K sixty one. Pursuing suspect 256 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,599 west on Third Street, now crossing Union Avenue. Push it, Jim, 257 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:26,079 don't lose it. One K six one Roger all units. Suspect headed west 258 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,680 on Third Street, crossing Union Avenue. Units one, R one three, 259 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:37,359 one A one seventh, one R one nine block the intersection at Westlake and 260 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Third Street, R thirteen, Roger one A one seventh Rogers on nineteen Roger 261 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,359 units one, R one one and one A one two block the intersection at 262 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:56,160 Third Street in Vorado one R eleven Rogers closing in on them. One K 263 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,279 sixty one, one K sixty one. Suspect now in north on Burlington, 264 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:06,000 crossing mirror Marn. North on Burlington, crossing mirror mar what's a truck, 265 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,200 Jim, Yeah, one K sixty one Roger all units. Suspect now headed 266 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:17,200 north on Burlington, crushing mirror Marn. North on Burlington, crushing mirror Marn. 267 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,559 Maybe they got in block one K six one one K six one go 268 00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:26,359 ahead. Still pursuing suspect north on Burlington, now mossing Second Street. Looks 269 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:37,240 like a dead end. I think we got in block he's turning around once 270 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:44,000 at Jim. Here he comes. Look out, there goes our windshield. 271 00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:47,599 You see all right, Jim. One K sixty one, one K sixty 272 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:51,240 one. Maybe you heard it. He got biased. Suspect now headed east 273 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:55,519 on Beverly Boulevard, crossing Belmont. Are you receiving us? One K sixty 274 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:57,960 one, We are receiving you. All units. Suspect now headed east on 275 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:02,920 Beverly Boulevard, now crossing Bilmont. One K sixty one is in pursuit. 276 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,160 One K sixty one. Suspect just turned off properly on the Bigueroa, heading 277 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:15,839 north on Pickeloa, crossing Temple, just to kind of hold it. Just 278 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,599 turned down Alpine. Hold it turned again. Suspect now headed north on Alabeda, 279 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,240 headed from the Southern Pacific Train Yards. File crossing North Broadway, going 280 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:30,440 into the yards. Sore losing Jim. All units. All units converge on 281 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:36,279 Southern Pacific Train Yards. All units converge on Southern Pacific Train Yards from North 282 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,880 Maine to the river, from Alabra Avenue to Macon Street. Suspect is in 283 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,319 the yards. Suspect is in the yards, not making it easy. It's 284 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:53,680 got nothing to lose one K sixty one, one K sixty one, one 285 00:24:53,799 --> 00:25:03,480 K sixty one. Come in, one K sixty one, Come in, 286 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,839 one K six one. We have suspect in customers. We have suspect in 287 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:17,240 customs. One K six one, Roger all units, one K sixty one 288 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:22,559 has suspect in custody. Return to your districts. Return to your districts. 289 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:27,720 All frequency is clear real, I guess that does it? That sounds like 290 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:30,839 nobody was hurt. They didn't ask for an ambulance. Big night, Lucky 291 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,200 one. Well, I'm going home, see Hollers the morning. Good night's 292 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:45,920 givery, good night, good night night DM A three sixty seven time check, 293 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:52,079 go thirty am. How about that? As a matter, it's first 294 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,640 watch of mine. You would have worked the whole thing over, give it 295 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,599 a complete overhaul. Look at that, Joe, five minutes slow, Wa't 296 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,480 I talk to that jeweler? How long do you work on it? Just 297 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:10,000 four or five years ago? Why? Good night, Frank, Yeah, 298 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:45,680 the time you've got Lieutenant. On August twenty eighth, trial was held in 299 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:49,319 Department eighty two, Superior Court of the State of California in and for the 300 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:59,240 County of Los Angeles in a moment. The results of that trial, the 301 00:26:59,359 --> 00:28:18,519 suspect was tried and convicted of murder in the first degree. Welcome back. 302 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:26,400 The weird thing about this is the scene with Franking Spanish. If anyone was 303 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:33,920 watching the TV series and paying really close attention to continuity, which people didn't 304 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,279 tend to do back in nineteen fifty four, they get a little bit confused 305 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:44,119 because in this episode Frank Smith speaks and understands Spanish to the witness. In 306 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,000 an episode a few weeks later on TV The Big Boys, Smith has to 307 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:57,400 filter his own questions to a Spanish speaking young woman through another officer who acts 308 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:03,680 as a translator. Now, of course this script was originally with Barton Yarnborough 309 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:10,160 in mind, but so was the other script. I listened to the Big 310 00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:15,319 Boys episode in that particular scene, and that one aired in nineteen fifty and 311 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:22,880 it did have Barton Yarborough's character filter his questions in English to the Spanish speaking 312 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,039 officers. So apparently, if the radio script for this episode was the same, 313 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:33,640 both Brank Smith and Ben Romero were able to speak Spanish until they weren't. 314 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:41,079 I will say that the conclusion with the police cars tracking the suspect works 315 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:48,400 a whole lot better over audio than on television, as the TV version gives 316 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,240 us quite a bit of Joe Friday and Frank Smith looking around the room awkwardly. 317 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,920 You know, in terms of a story, it goes to a theme 318 00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:06,480 that Dragged Now shows its willingness to cut against the typical dramatic narrative of police 319 00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:11,279 shows and detective programs, because, of course the heroes are at the center 320 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:17,200 of the action. They're the ones who catch the bad guys and are always 321 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,279 there at the big moment, and Drag that as a series is like, 322 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,160 no, that's not how things work. Sure, sometimes that happens, but 323 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:33,319 sometimes you spend a lot of time investigating a case identifying the suspect, but 324 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,000 someone else is able to make the caller. And even though the majority of 325 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:45,400 the time they do have them as the ones apprehending the suspect, this is 326 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:51,160 a series that locks to mix things up by putting in that realistic ending where 327 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:55,480 that's not how it works out. I should also note that I did cut 328 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,559 a little at the end. There was a visual gag with Frank Smith asking 329 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,880 the lieutenant for the time that relied on facial expression and body language, but 330 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:11,279 was silent, and I think that that was something that was added in to 331 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:19,039 reflect Ben Alexander's comedic stylings but didn't transfer well to audio, so that part 332 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,440 a trim back. Other than that, though this works very good in its 333 00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:29,240 original medium. The script does, and I'm glad we've got these TV episodes 334 00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:33,640 out there so we can enjoy these stories that were originally broadcast over radio, 335 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:40,000 although it'll be nice to get back to actual radio programs next week. Now 336 00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:44,960 we turned to listener comments and feedback, and we've got some comments on YouTube 337 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:52,599 regarding the truck hijacking listener rits in helpful or not ed. Bastrand is my 338 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,599 favorite character. I wish he had made it to the TV version. Well, 339 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,480 I think we'll get to hear some more ed Bastrand. I'll talk little 340 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,359 bit later on as to why that. I don't think he ended up making 341 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,200 the transition to television. And then a comment from Ryn, Sir, parly 342 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:15,079 Bear is the corner at the end quest he is everywhere. Well, I 343 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:22,200 thanks so much, and I've definitely been noticing parly Bear more. It's funny 344 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:27,119 because I think over the years he's been in hundreds, if not thousands, 345 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,039 of episodes we played, just hasn't stood out to me as much as he 346 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,319 has to some other listeners, and that's because I'm not as big a fan 347 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,400 of the Westerns and haven't listened a whole lot to gun Smoke, which I 348 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,960 think is what a lot of listeners connect to him. But with the tales 349 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,680 of the Texas Rangers, where you know, he was all over that series, 350 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,880 and I think we've heard some others, you know, particularly some of 351 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:59,559 these Johnny Dollar stories recently, and yeah, even Dragnet, where he's definitely 352 00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:04,240 a press. There are so many actors, you know, and it's hard 353 00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:10,240 to track because they put such a significant role in the Golden Age radio based 354 00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:15,759 on the sheer number of guest appearances they made. You know, you've got 355 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:23,559 Howard mcneer, Virginia Greg, Betty lou Gerson, Paul Freese, William Conrad, 356 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:30,160 Big Perrin, Peggy Weber, and you start to list them, and 357 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,279 it's almost seems like an endless less and if you try to list them, 358 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:39,640 it seems like you've forgotten one who was really significant. I mean, these 359 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:46,200 performers might have hundreds of episodes in circulation, but they probably made thousands of 360 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,079 appearances and the fact that you had these actors who could be so versatile, 361 00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:57,599 who could play all of these different sorts of roles, really is part of 362 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:02,640 what made it economical to be able to have the Golden Age of radio and 363 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:10,360 have the sheer amount of scripted programs that you had on air during this time. 364 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:15,840 So I go through different phases where I'm like starting to recognize more and 365 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:20,679 more different actors, and I am starting to notice a lot of Parly Bear 366 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,800 right now. Thanks so much for the comment. Now it's time to thank 367 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,800 our Patreon supporter of the day, and I'll want to go ahead and thank 368 00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:32,760 Russell. Russell has been one of our Patreon supporters since October twenty sixteen, 369 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,599 currently supporting the podcast at the shamous level of four dollars or more per month. 370 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,360 Thank you so much for your support, Russell, and that will do 371 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,639 it for today. If you are enjoying the podcast, please follow us using 372 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,559 your favorite podcast software. And if you're enjoying the podcast on YouTube, be 373 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,800 sure to lock the video, subscribe to the channel, and mark the notification 374 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,719 bell. We will be back next Saturday with actual drag Net Radio episodes. 375 00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:07,800 Public Domain Video Theater returns tomorrow with an episode of Dangerous Assignment. Check that 376 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,280 out at video Theater dot Great Detectives dot net or in our YouTube channel at 377 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,760 YouTube dot Great Detectives dot net. And we'll be back on Monday with the 378 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,840 Adventures of the Falcon where somebody kill him own. Yeah, that's why I'm 379 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,039 here. I need a detective. Heard a lot about you. Always figure 380 00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,519 anybody has a reputation, he must have something on the ball. Oh, 381 00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:31,159 concede the point, So we go inside and talk business. No need, 382 00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:35,199 I'll only be a minute. I discovered the body. See, so I'm 383 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,320 on a spot. Cops just put me through the ringer. Any reason you 384 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,679 should be suspected other than discovering the body, and they suspect everybody. Oh 385 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,360 and you've got nothing to worry about, no more than anybody else. All 386 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960 Right, it's like this, See who likes his agent all the time? 387 00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:52,159 Gripes? How come am I doing more for me? Frexing me? Head 388 00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,440 words often loud words. Uh, but he's my meal ticket. I'm going 389 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,239 to knock off my own meal ticket. Yes, the Golden Goose, Get 390 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,119 out of what are you wearing? Okay? Helleren try da Vaughan war at 391 00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:05,320 the Zigzag Club. You think she did it. If she makes up in 392 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,119 it, how do you know she's a dame. FX's current I believe me 393 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,840 and a thing like this always include the dame in. I'll make a note 394 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,360 of it. Dame's at trouble. You can count of nothing but trouble. 395 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,800 Alerin you're speaking of the women I love. Thank it for me wearing nothing 396 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,639 but trouble. I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime, 397 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,360 do send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net, follow us 398 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:30,039 on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, 399 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,559 dot com, slash Great Detectives from Boise Adohol. This is your host, 400 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,440 Adam Graham signing off.