WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:12.080 Good morning everybody. We will be continuing Violinist in a hand Basket today. 2 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:22.559 I'm gonna start with some gnastic and format not a really good name for or 3 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:28.160 a channel, but he's he understands that gnostic is a what do you call 4 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:31.640 it? A derogatory term. I think you may have figured that out after 5 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:36.359 read or he named his play his channel, but at least he's under under 6 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:41.439 the awareness thereof So we're going to weigh a little bit that it's gonna be 7 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:44.799 a little bit of amin, but it's gonna talk about the syllabine sibiling cult, 8 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:49.679 and then we'll get back into Ellis and a hand Basket. The video 9 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:56.600 that I had uh clipped out from myth vision too. There's actually two. 10 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.799 There's one from about Abraham and went about Moses. We were still working on 11 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:03.920 the one about Moses. I had a bunch of files get corrupted because I 12 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.480 apparently I needed room on my hard drive. So I'm actually at the moment 13 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:18.640 creating a new video and there's about thirty eight minutes left, so providing it 14 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:23.599 doesn't screw up in the process of rendering that video, I had to do 15 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:27.040 it again this morning. I think I got up early. So once da 16 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.959 Vinci resolved is done with that, I'll have to find a place marker where 17 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:37.239 we had left off and then we can continue on with that. For now, 18 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:48.200 let me get all right, now we're on Brydion too, and Brydion 19 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:53.879 for those of you out there on Brydion, the live streams haven't been saving 20 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.959 after the fact, so I for the last week probably haven't been putting anything 21 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:02.480 up on Bridion just because I didn't see the point since it doesn't stay there 22 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:07.280 afterward. But today I said, what the heck? So if you want 23 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:12.319 to find out what you're missing, just go to the Rumble channel my Twitter, 24 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:20.280 or find it on the podcasts or or even on my Patreon. All 25 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:27.439 right, so let's just get this started off and we will jump into some 26 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.159 gnostic informant. I might skip around a little bit because that one isn't something 27 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.319 that I clipped out and just to get the important stuff. I don't have 28 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:38.479 time to do all that stuff. And by the way, I am looking 29 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:43.080 for an assistant. I gotta find out whether or not I have to upgrade 30 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.400 stream yard. Good morning, Polka. If I have to upgrade stream Yard 31 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:50.919 in order to make that work, I might not do it. But if 32 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:55.960 I can get somebody in there with like admin privileges that can pull up things 33 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.439 when I want them to pull up, they would probably have to have my 34 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.439 video files too on their computer in order to do that. I'm not one 35 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:04.759 hundred percent sure how that works, and I don't know how I would transfer 36 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.159 those types of files. There's a lot of technical stuff that I need to 37 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.759 figure out before going forward with that. But if somebody wanted to be like 38 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:17.599 a VJ video jockey pulling up stuff during these streams, the I'd make it 39 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:22.639 so that I could focus more on the presentation unless on the dicking around back 40 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:30.199 and forth with the stream yard. All the cool people have one, have 41 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:46.919 an assistant. All right, let's see, let's do this. But it's 42 00:03:47.000 --> 00:04:00.319 all right. Run around and please if you please, well listen, all 43 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:08.439 right in the bence you can well, it's all right, as long as 44 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:16.279 you land your hand. You can sit around and wait for the fall man, 45 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:26.160 waiting for someone to tell you everything, sit around and wonder what your 46 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:34.839 marbles b maybe do. Well, it's all all right, even if you 47 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:42.480 see your wrong will and all right, sometimes you got in the strong. 48 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:47.199 Well, it's fall all right, as long as you get someone to leave 49 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:58.720 you well, all all right. Every day it's just nare maybe somewhere down 50 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:08.839 the road ring you think of me A wonder where I am These be maybe 51 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:18.920 somewhere down the road when somebody plays at the end of the probably it's even 52 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:28.160 when who's comes to show, it's fall everyone from on them, But it's 53 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:36.279 fall all right, remember them over. But it's all right, going to 54 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:43.920 the end of the last. Don't have to be ashamed of the car I 55 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:53.480 draft. I'm just glad to be here, happy to feel that. It 56 00:05:53.560 --> 00:06:01.000 don't matter if you're badass sat up said it's fat, well, it's all 57 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:08.480 all right. Even if you're old and gray, Well it's all right. 58 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:15.959 You still get something to say. Well, it's all right, remember delivingly 59 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:27.399 Welsh, fall right, just to continue to kill for this fall right right, 60 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:33.519 it around the freeze, weird it fall right, you deliver you please, 61 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:41.639 Well, it's all right, even if the so no shine, it's 62 00:06:41.639 --> 00:07:02.160 all right, going to the end of the ride, all right. I 63 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:08.920 don't know if you catch that for those of you watching, but they had 64 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:15.079 a guitar in a rocking chair for Roy. Roy had already died at that 65 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:20.279 time. So there's a little picture of him and the chairs rocking with his 66 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:30.600 guitar and it's pretty cool, all right. So we have Christians and syllabus 67 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:39.279 Emmin Hillman, this is a let me make sure I grab it. Yeah, 68 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:44.040 So contact me if you want, if you're interested in an unpaid but 69 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:49.000 highly appreciated position, if you want to help uh when you have the ability 70 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:54.120 to come on and at the same time, I'm on, and let's see 71 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:58.360 if we can make it so that we can pull up stuff if I have 72 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.480 to send it all. I don't know how that's gonna work. But let 73 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.600 us see if I can get someone else to do the tech in the background 74 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:11.120 so I can just talk instead of fumbling around with all this stuff. I 75 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:18.920 don't know if it's even gonna work that way. We'll see, all right. 76 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:24.360 So do I like Neil? This guy? My dad's name is Neil, 77 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.319 but it's spelled differently. That's the informant. He irritates me a lot. 78 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:35.399 There's some things he doesn't quite understand about the world that are quite infuriating, 79 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.840 Like when you just talking about how noble and wonderful the Ukraine is against 80 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:43.600 the ultimate evil that was absolutely retardation on his part. So yeah, there's 81 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:48.559 things about Neil I don't appreciate at all. And whenever he tries to talk 82 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.840 about world politics and stuff like that, he sounds like a complete moron. 83 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:58.279 So there's that. I don't know if Neil is just a really ambitious, 84 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:05.320 really exciting like I don't know, like he knows some stuff, but I 85 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:09.080 don't think his h his grasp on on the world is really quite there yet. 86 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.080 So that being said, when I talk about the stuff that he can 87 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:20.039 read and memorize, then he's doing alright. So let's go ahead and look 88 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.240 at this real quick. And we're waiting. Let's see how much more time 89 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:28.000 you have. Thirty one minutes left on the rendering of that video, it 90 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.440 corrupted, so I had to star, had to start a little bit now, 91 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.120 and after that we'll have to find our place where we left off so 92 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:41.960 I can continue on with that. But in the meantime, we've got this. 93 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:50.080 The sibiling oracles are basically what we're talking about. This all this is 94 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.480 going to get really interesting for a lot of people because you're going to see 95 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:58.200 how it was all what they now could consider pagan It was all part of 96 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:05.039 the early Christian and early JUDAEI and things. They just try to pretend that 97 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.200 they were different, and it's uh, that's where that's where the money, 98 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.919 that's where the money is. Right there is to see that and realize it. 99 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.399 Hey, thanks for that great introduction, Neil. It is fantastic to 100 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.039 be here. And for those of you are sitting in the audience, I 101 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:28.080 was able to hear an outline of Neil's presentation here. It's good stuff. 102 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:31.799 Man, this is graduate level work, so you should be proud of your 103 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.360 work. Bra nice job. I appreciate that. Yeah. You know one 104 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:43.120 other thing I would like to say, speaking of graduate level work, Shouldelli 105 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:48.279 chechoh pre Scrap Beyond Babylon highly recommend. It looks like we have a connection 106 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:52.919 ere uh oh, we're losing. We're losing here barely a signal. I 107 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:58.159 wonder what that is. I'm just gonna give it a second because it's gonna 108 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:03.159 be really great if I Okay, looks like it's all right. Back to 109 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.600 it. Priestcraft Beyond Babylon. You can find the links in the description. 110 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.399 Check it out you want to a lot of what he talks about in one 111 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.679 of these books called the Oh What's it called it doesn't matter. One of 112 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.679 his videos, he goes through all the all the gods and goddesses of the 113 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:30.519 Babylonian and Sumerian cults, that's all covered in priestcraft beyond Babylon and uh, 114 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.240 yeah, there you go. So without further ado, we're gonna get into 115 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:41.559 what are these sibiling books because you might know Christians, A lot of Christians, 116 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:46.960 especially Orthodox Christians, they know that the Christian sibyling oracles, they know 117 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.200 what these are. They consult them. They talk about aren't Gog and Magogue 118 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:56.600 and Armageddon? And those are the prophecies from their Christian sibylists. And they 119 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.879 still consult them today and read them and talk about how Mohammed as the Baphomet 120 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.960 and these are all Christian ideas that are still floating around there. But how 121 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:09.519 many of them know that before Christianity was even on the right anyone's radar, 122 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.600 sibiling books were consulted by Roman religion. Religion called this as well, and 123 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.679 they came out of that tradition. There was there were sybols all over the 124 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:22.080 empire, but you had these sibiling books that were guarded by the vessel virgins 125 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.679 and they would be, they would they would use them, and it was 126 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:31.799 sort of propaganda, prophecy, all types of different They would consult these books, 127 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:39.080 and for example, in two two a four BCE, I could be 128 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.120 off that a couple of years, say around two hundred b C. The 129 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:48.840 Romans were at war against the Macedonians and the Carthaginians as well. They were 130 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:54.080 at war on different fronts, and one of their prophecies was to go and 131 00:12:54.120 --> 00:13:01.000 get Magna Mater from Phrygia. This is a famous god that people would travel 132 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.679 from all over the world to go and the great mother, Magna Mater. 133 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.960 Nicodemus and I talk about this a lot, and how she's been associated with 134 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:16.840 Airis eris not Aris, like the heiress of a But that is funny that 135 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:24.960 it's phonetically the same, right Airis and the children of Discord, the fourteen 136 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:30.480 children of Discord, fourteen that number again, And also how they equate her 137 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:39.120 to some equate her to Ashira or Nana and also to Lilith, which that's 138 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.399 where it gets a little murky. And that's what I'm a little curious about 139 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:48.639 now, is if there is an actual defining line there that separates them or 140 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:54.879 if there's something that is legitimate about that assumption that they're talking about the same 141 00:13:54.919 --> 00:14:01.200 deity. I didn't play like to go and visit and give offerings to the 142 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:07.279 Romans, said we need to have that in Rome. The sibiling books is 143 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.879 what told them to go do that, according to Livy, according to others, 144 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.559 and this was a common thing that they would consult these books. The 145 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.960 books would tell them go import to God from a different land, bring it 146 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:22.879 to Rome. And so that's what I want to really show, the progression 147 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:28.080 over time from the sibyl. Any thoughts on that so far, I think 148 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:33.720 you're dealing with Egeria right off the bat. So people should know that back 149 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:39.039 in Roman history, when there were still kings and Rome was just a city 150 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:46.600 with huts at this time, there was a sibyl called Egeria, and she 151 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:52.120 transmitted to Numa. To Numa, who is a sabine, right, she 152 00:14:52.279 --> 00:15:00.480 transmitted to him what would become the religion of Rome, right and supposedly an 153 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:05.120 outline of what was going to happen throughout their history, who they would fight, 154 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:09.919 when they would fight, them, very specific stuff. And she was 155 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:13.000 a nimph. They called her a nimph. So right off the bat. 156 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:20.960 It makes me wonder when you're given too much detail about your future, do 157 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.639 you manifest it even if it's against your will and you're trying to avoid it, 158 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:31.039 like a like a fable of Shakespeare where you know your fate, you've 159 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:35.120 talked, you've consulted the oracle, you try your very best to take precautions 160 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.240 to avoid that fate, and yet those precautions that you take actually end up 161 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:46.279 causing it, right, Like that became your history because of your actions, 162 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:50.440 not because an oracle was able to say anything to make us make you able 163 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.840 to change it, you know, like with an Oedipus is a good example. 164 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.399 And what the hell just said? And that's where I'm coming in today 165 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.559 is we're going to talk about that nymph and who that nymph is and you're 166 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:08.639 going to be surprised. But yeah, Neil, I think you're on a 167 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:12.080 Oh I love it, love the Roman flavor. Keep going, bro. 168 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:18.799 So you know the stibiling books from the I'm using as a source two different 169 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:29.720 sources. James Charlesworth has a pseudo Pigafu Old Testament text and included in here 170 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:34.639 is all the cibiling texts that they found from the Jewish sources, Jewish and 171 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:40.320 Christian sources, and so and I also have the Christian the straight up Christian 172 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:44.600 sibyling text that are from the sixth and fifth, fourth, fifth and sixth 173 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:51.120 centuries after the Christian Christians basically take over the civil but the oldest the second 174 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:55.600 going back to the second century BCE before like when it's when, when it's 175 00:16:55.679 --> 00:17:00.279 just you can just say BC, there's no reason to say common era Bagan 176 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:07.200 and Jewish people using these civil text and consulting them, you have this prophecy 177 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:12.920 of you know, war and Rome, like you were mentioning and like, 178 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.440 let me just read that a little bit here, oracle against Rome. You 179 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:22.960 will be among evil mortals, suffering evils, but you will remain utterly desolate 180 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:26.839 for all ages. Yet it will exist, but it will remain utterly desolate, 181 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:33.160 forever, despising your soil because you, just because you desired sorcery with 182 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:41.359 you are found adulteries and illicit intercourse with boys, effeminate and unjust, evil 183 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.920 city, ill faded above all, a last city of the Latin land, 184 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:51.720 unclean in all things, maynad rejoicing in vipers as a widow. You will 185 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.400 sorry you will sit by the banks, and the river Tiber will weep for 186 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:03.400 you. It's consort. Have a murderous heart and inpious spirit. Did you 187 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:08.799 not know what God can do what he devises? But you said, I 188 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:14.559 am alone and no one will ravage me. But now God who is forever, 189 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:18.480 will destroy you and all your people, and there will no longer be 190 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.480 any sign of you in that land as there was formerly when the Great God 191 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:27.279 found your honors. Remain alone, lawless one, mingled with burning fire, 192 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:34.119 and habit the lawless, the lawless nether region of Hades. A lot of 193 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:41.279 the language that's being thrown around there, like here's the oracle against Rome. 194 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:47.519 You will be among mortals, like cosmic destruction. But you also have in 195 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:55.039 these texts or a lot of what you would call pagan terminology. You know, 196 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:59.400 the name is by the earth Shaker. Anyone who heard who hears that 197 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:03.839 term earth shaker, that's Poseidon. There's only one person who has that title 198 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:07.720 earth shaker. Beside it, and it even says in the top from the 199 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:12.480 Erythrean sybyl there will be also be immediately assigned for the fertile Phrygia. When 200 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:18.359 the abominaal race of Raya. They're there's no, they're not like keeping the 201 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:19.880 keep these gods out of the tax. No, they're not real gods. 202 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.039 No, No, they're like, no, that's these are the race. 203 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:26.720 This is the race of Raya. This is the people who worship Kayui from 204 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.119 Phrygia, and they're acknowledging that in these texts. I think it's fantastic. 205 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:34.200 I think it's fantastic. What's hard, you know, it's hard to tell 206 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:40.279 the difference, Neil, It's hard to tell the difference between that Raya as 207 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:47.279 a Christian goddess and as a Pagan goddess. Those terms run together. Linguistically, 208 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:49.680 they run together. This is brilliant, brother, Keep going, keep 209 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.079 going. I'm sorry to interrupt. No, you're fine. That was That 210 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.160 was a good point. And there's a lot of text. There's a lot 211 00:19:56.200 --> 00:20:03.640 of talk about ages. There's a new age coming. Even Suetonius, I'm 212 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:11.839 sorry. Plutarch in his Life of Solo was talking about how learned Etruscans declare 213 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.640 that importance signified the advent of a new age and a new cosmic order. 214 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:19.880 They said that there are eight ages altogether, each with different customs and ways 215 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.680 of life, and that the God has assigned each of these ages a definitive 216 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:27.640 number of years, which is accomplished by the revolution of the great year. 217 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:33.160 Whenever one great year ends, another begins. They said, a remarkable portant 218 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.079 appears either on earth or in the sky, to make it clear to those 219 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.799 who have studied and looked into such matters, that men have a different kind 220 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.440 and modes of different life. So this is a thing like, this is 221 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:52.960 an understood thing universal throughout all these religions, that there's these ages, different 222 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:56.519 ages coming up. And the sibiling books really go through these ages, and 223 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.319 they go through the times of Caesar, they go through the times of you 224 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:07.720 know, there's there's even they even have Romulus and Remus in here, and 225 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.720 we pull that up real quick. The one that has Romulus and Remus. 226 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:18.599 Don't forget the sibil is the daughter of Noah, right, yeah, explain 227 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:21.480 that real quick, because this is huge, because they're okay, yeah, 228 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:26.000 go ahead, explain that real quick. Yeah. She is the one who, 229 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:32.319 through the line of Dukalian, preserves that righteousness, that place, that 230 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:37.000 voice, and so she presents herself and the oracles, especially the sibling oracles, 231 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.039 the early ones three and five in my opinion, or the are the 232 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:48.119 most classical. Neil's talking about a transition from purely classical to this kind of 233 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:53.000 Judeo Christian approach, and those early ones three and five, those are to 234 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:59.039 me are the strongest, and they will still contain references that are cross used 235 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:03.319 by the Christians. Remember, people, the Christians were first called by the 236 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:08.799 Pagans who thought they were a right They said they were sybilice states. They 237 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:14.279 were Sibylists, right, they were Sibylists. Yeah, and now that's that's 238 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:18.839 that's the thing is when Julian the Apostle was the emperor, they didn't That's 239 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:23.319 what Julian Aposta calls them. He just calls them sibylists. Kelsi's too. 240 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:29.880 Kelsis is saying, yeah, their religion is basically the sibyl it's based. 241 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.559 They're just you know, they're sibilists. He kind of kind of calls him 242 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:38.279 a degradation of it though. Kelsa's is like, they're degradating the secret rights 243 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:44.160 of the sibyl and he makes it clear that it's not the sibyl, it's 244 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.839 a degradation of the sibyl, which I happen to agree with they're oracle mongers. 245 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:53.440 They're oracle mongers. Now they're trying to use the oracles for their own 246 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:57.920 benefit. He says, yeah. And here almost like there's a pure art 247 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:03.279 and there's a there's a tainted form of it, and the Christianity was tainting 248 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:10.200 that pure art in the in the minds of the of the of the people 249 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:14.799 who lived the pagan line. Now this is interesting because one of the earlier 250 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.039 versions, right, one of the earliest versions of it, we have this 251 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:23.400 outline where it's going through all the different ages. Talks about how Cyrus will 252 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:27.480 rise up, talks about how and I can you can, Like I said, 253 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:29.759 if you want to, I'm not gonna go. I'm not gonna be 254 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:32.440 able to show all of them because it's gonna take hours. You can find 255 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:36.920 it all in here. Charles with this this is this is literally a screenshot 256 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:40.799 of this book, but it starts off with Cyrus Cyrus, Oh no, 257 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:42.960 I'm sorry, goes back even farther than that, I'm dumb. Talks about 258 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:48.200 how the Tower of Babel will be built and then it will be everyone will 259 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.839 be spread out across the earth. Talks about Egypt, the Kingdom of Egypt, 260 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:55.759 will rise and be a great kingdom. The Kingdom of Babylon will come 261 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:57.920 after that and be a great kingdom, and it goes through all these What 262 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:03.359 does it tell you to do and show you is how they're putting together their 263 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:08.440 later books right and what they're following as far as their blueprint, the details 264 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:12.880 that we don't see. If you're just looking at revelations as to what's going 265 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:18.240 to happen and how and how, you can tell it's being manipulated by man, 266 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:26.599 by people by the Yaoist cult that is actually the cult of Saturn and 267 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:30.680 what we're seeing throughout the world right now happening. You'll get more of the 268 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.880 details and understand why there's more of these references to these symbols in these cult 269 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:40.519 figures of the past. If you have the sibling oracles to go with, 270 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:44.359 to go along with the revelations, because you know, this is something that's 271 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:51.200 being manipulated and artificially produced so that people who are of faith will believe that 272 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:55.319 it's coming from God and not from Man itself. And that's where the big 273 00:24:55.400 --> 00:25:00.160 mistake is, because they're following people over the edge of the cliff, a 274 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:06.000 bunch of lemmings, these different ages, and then it says, which apparently 275 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.039 don't actually really do that. I think that was a lie about Lemmings that 276 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:15.079 they actually like killed these animals for a video documentary and it wasn't even how 277 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:18.200 they live, it's not really what they do. And then it starts getting 278 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.759 into Alexander the Great will came conquer the East, and then after Alexander the 279 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:29.200 Great Rome and it then it brings you to Romulus and Remus, like wait 280 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:34.359 a minute, Romulus and Remus see and so there's no there's no borders between 281 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.960 religions in this time. There's no like, oh, we're we're over here 282 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:42.119 in Christian Land and we're not allowed to talk about Romulus at Reamis or the 283 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.680 Trojan War. No, they believe this stuff. The Trojan War. Look 284 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:49.759 at it says right here now, you wretched Phrygia, Do I be well 285 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:56.359 piteously, for on you will come captivity from Greece, which subdues horses and 286 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.440 terrible war. One of these will be a mighty warrior, will be king 287 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.640 for the sake of his brother. He will perform most evil deeds those they 288 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:10.200 will destroy famous walls of Troy of the Phrygians. When the son of Kronos 289 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:15.279 for twice five revolving years, fulfills the murderous deeds of war. A great 290 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:22.519 man from Zeus king will have the name, So there is no there's no 291 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:29.039 separation from So then I have to ask, are these revelations after the fact, 292 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:30.799 Are these like what they call prophecy, after the fact or is it 293 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:36.200 something that predated it. That would be my first question, because if it's 294 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:41.960 very accurate, my first suspicion would be that it's not just some lorical talking 295 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.039 about it. It's because they wrote it after it happened. That happens a 296 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:49.119 lot, especially with the Old and New Right, the Old and New Testament, 297 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:56.640 Homer in Hesiod. There's no separation the text, and you can almost 298 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:04.680 argue that the Old Testament is a euhemerization of these texts where these they're taking 299 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:10.759 these these daemons and lower gods, and part of them is making them people 300 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.519 basically. And you mentioned Noah, so one of the sibling texts right here 301 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:22.920 says that Saturn represents Noah. Or also look up Attrahassis or buy my book, 302 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:29.039 because I talk about the original Noah from the inuma Elish, which is 303 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:37.400 the Babylonian Genesis story the Sons of Noah, maybe Saturn, Titan Yapitus. 304 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.759 The flood is described forty days. This is with the gentile tradition in the 305 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.920 rain forty days talking about do Collon's flood. This is from Hesse. So 306 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.799 I also want to highlight something because they're talking about Phrygia, and they're talking 307 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:56.400 about it in a derogatory sense sometimes like Frisians Phrygia, Scythians, Goths, 308 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:03.000 Germanic people, lots of different sub sects in between. Right, those who 309 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:11.799 were favoring the marketplace to be pirates, to be lay dace and do human 310 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:18.079 trafficking, and who were being taught or corrupted by the magi or those who 311 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:25.160 you know, conduct the dark arts, they weren't. They were their own 312 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.640 group of people that were no longer you know, welcome in places like when 313 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:37.079 we talk about the Orlanda book. The Orlanda book describes the difference between them 314 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.559 and how you know, you have you have Praya, you have Leda, 315 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.279 and you have Finda's children. Right, so there's some overlap here, but 316 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.720 just say that, you know, when they say frigid, don't think, 317 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.039 oh, these guys are contradicting the Scythian frizzy. Another's because there's more than 318 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.319 one group of people, just like everything else, and some of them were 319 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.000 lost. According to the other ones who said, this is not how you 320 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.720 conduct life. You know, it's a it's a matriarchical society. Family, 321 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.160 you know, this is all. You know, we cheat everybody like family, 322 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.160 we're fair and honest, this and that. And then the other ones 323 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:18.559 who would like faver the marketplace, the bandits on the road, right, 324 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.920 the merchants and thieves, the cutthroats. There was a whole separate group that 325 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:27.920 went off and we're jerking around with the magic and getting into some weird stuff 326 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.960 like the like the burning purple. And then it says the Aramenians are derived 327 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:40.279 from the Phrygians and spoke the same language, comprehended it great as old Phrygia. 328 00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:44.880 This is where Armenians, he says, Aramenians. It's Armenians. The 329 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.759 arc landed supposedly, right, So they're all it's all, this is all 330 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:53.519 one thing. This is not like there's no separation, there's no like borders 331 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:59.640 between these religions and it but that is interesting to say that the Armenians were 332 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:04.000 derived from the Phrygians and spoke the same language. So for some reason in 333 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.400 older writings, the letter F is a lot of times in place of the 334 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.240 letter S. So once you understand that, you can read this a little 335 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.440 bit better. So f is for f and f iss for s. So 336 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:21.359 it says fpoke for spoke fame, which spells fame, but it's actually in 337 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:26.079 the context it's same, right. So the saddern things interesting because you also 338 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:33.839 have Usibius later on talking about how Chronos. He says, right here, 339 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:45.720 Chronos, the Phoenicians call Elus, who was a king of the country, 340 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:51.960 and subsequently, like the allusion mysteries, Elus, right after his decree was 341 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.920 deified as the star Saturn, had a nymph of that country named Annobrett and 342 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:02.720 only begotten son, whom they on this accout called yeah dude, the only 343 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:08.119 begotten yeah dude being so called among the Phoenicians. And he's citing Sanko Nathan 344 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.640 for this, an old Phoenician priest, as you see in the second paragraph, 345 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:17.440 and his translation of Sancho Nathan about the Phoenician alphabet, says concerning the 346 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.319 reptiles and venomous beasts will contribute no service to mankind. So right away we're 347 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:27.160 seeing this imagery of serpents being evil and wicked, right whereas before that the 348 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:33.839 serpent was a symbol of power, and now wisdom is what it was. 349 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.839 But it says, I want to read this part to you because this is 350 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:42.599 kind of interesting. In this translation to the Sanctonian about the Phoenician, Alpavet 351 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.359 says concerning the reptiles and venomous beast, which contribute to no good service to 352 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.440 mankind, but work death and destruction to any in whom they inject their incurable 353 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:59.160 and fatal poison. This also he describes saying word for word as follows, 354 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.400 and that it goes into some more stuff. But that what what Neil is 355 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:09.279 making mistake of here is that they always revered and feared the snake. But 356 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:15.440 they, through their magic and their pharmacaea, their their their medicine, their 357 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:20.279 drugs, started manipulating and playing around with it. Because you know, when 358 00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:24.279 you have slaves and captives, which again when you're talking about Frisians, they 359 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:30.519 didn't keep cactus. They either killed you or they make it made them uhde 360 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.920 made hospitable with those who they conquered. So again that would be another one 361 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.039 of those practices that the core group of the Frisians at least would not have 362 00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.720 been partaking in, and you read about that all throughout the Orlando book. 363 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:49.759 But those who do that are also the same type that would trade and sell 364 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.640 those people. And that's where you get those those lays stays in the in 365 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:58.000 the the pirates on the the Berbers, right, the pirates on the on 366 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.960 the on the sea. I know, Berbers not the right word because it's 367 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:05.039 usually directed towards a different group of people, but you get it. The 368 00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.759 reason why they call them that in the first place because barbarians, because they 369 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.880 all their languages sound like barbar bar bar That's that's why. That's why they 370 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.119 were called that by the by the Greeks. And they're like they said, 371 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:21.359 their language is inferior and they sound like a bunch of Neanderthals basically. So 372 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.920 this whole thing about the the serpent has multiple But what they're saying is it's 373 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.920 it's it's about who's that applying it and what they're using it for. And 374 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:36.400 there are those who wish death upon you, so therefore they're going to poison 375 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.720 their arrows with the venom and things like that. That will bring only death 376 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:47.640 and destruction, right, college and divinity? Yeah, you notice, you 377 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.200 notice that that serpent is right in there in that cult. Right. They 378 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.480 can't they can't be using the drugs and not make that a part of all 379 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:04.880 the imagery. Right. I love this The nature then of the dragon and 380 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.840 of the serpents. Tapus himself regarded as divine, and so again after him 381 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.639 did the Phoenicians and Egyptians, For this animal was declared to be by him 382 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.320 be all reptiles, most full of breath and fiery, in consequence of which 383 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:24.159 it also exerts an unsurpable swiftness by means of its breath, without feet or 384 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:30.159 in hands or any other of the external members which other animals make by their 385 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:35.119 movements. It also exhibits forms of various shapes, and in progress makes spiral 386 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:40.159 leaps as swift as it chooses. And so, I just I don't know 387 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.480 this is this, There's so much going on here. There's so m's like 388 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:49.519 cultic language and symbolism being thrown around here. He then says that in the 389 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.840 next next page over he says the mysteries of oh He says the phallus derived 390 00:34:53.920 --> 00:35:00.239 as a symbol of generation to those who are being initiated the in into the 391 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.559 adult adulterous art, and they pay a piece of money to her as lovers 392 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.760 to a harlot. The mysteries of Dio, and the armorous embraces of Zeus 393 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:16.079 with Demeter his mother, and the wrath of I know not what to call 394 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:21.840 her now his mother or wife demoter on account which wrath they say she was 395 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:25.800 called Brimo. The supplications of Zeus, and the drink of gall, the 396 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.079 plucking out of the victim's heart, and the unspeakable deeds. These things the 397 00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:35.280 Phrygian celebrate in honor of Addis and Kaibali and the cory Bantis. Wait a 398 00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.960 minute, Wait a minute, just for the benefit of the creeps in the 399 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.760 audience like me, what are they doing in this riot? They're drinking the 400 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.199 gall. Okay, I've seen the gall of the echidnap these are that's the 401 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:51.639 specific drug. So they're drinking the gall and plucking out the victim's heart. 402 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:53.360 Wait where do we get to? Where do we get the heart in here? 403 00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:59.000 And what does this have to do with that breath of fire? Right? 404 00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:00.760 This is all related, people, That breadth of fires all related. 405 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.679 That's why people went to see Madia because she could do it through the serpent, 406 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.119 right, So okay, fantastic, And it's all for the celebration of 407 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:13.440 Adis and Sibley. You saw that, Neil. Now, we can't deny 408 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:17.159 it. We can't deny that that Sibilly and Adas are those is you know, 409 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.599 the heart And notice when the Sibil says, go get and bring Civilly 410 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.599 here, right, Yes, that's the whole point I was gonna say, 411 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.119 is the Sibiling books are the are the actual books that told her to go 412 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:35.679 get her and bring her to room? Isn't that fascinating? You can't you 413 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.639 can't, you can't deny that's I mean that like and you'll see I'm gonna 414 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:44.920 show you because there's the later Sybilists are trying to like trying to I don't 415 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:46.760 know how. It's like they're ashamed of their past because there's there's a Sibiling. 416 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:51.960 There's a text I'm going to show later on where the writers saying just 417 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.519 ignore all the pagan sibling texts. Those are all there are all fables. 418 00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:59.960 Who cares about those? Like what you're just gonna throw that out there? 419 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:01.920 It's like but anyways, well, I'm gonna build up to that, because 420 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:07.199 I really want to show this. He says that they also have made up 421 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.559 a story that Zeus, having torn off parts of a ram, brought and 422 00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:15.119 threw them into the lap of Dio, paying a fraudulent penalty for his violence, 423 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.920 as though he had been parts of himself. The watchwords of this initiation, 424 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:23.280 if set before you merely for amusement, well, I know, stir 425 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:28.320 your laughter, although you may not be willing to laugh because of the exposures. 426 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.039 I ate out of the drum. This is the secret. This is 427 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:36.079 what you say when you get initiated. I ate, and Clement of Alexandria 428 00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.639 writes about this too. I ate out of the drum and drank out of 429 00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:46.440 the symbol. I danced the kiro kiro kiro paria. Is that what it 430 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:52.480 says? Yeah, I slipped into the bridal chamber? Are not these watchwords 431 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.960 in outrage? Are not the mysteries of farce? But what if I shall 432 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.960 add the rest of the story. Demeter has child and her and her daughter 433 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:07.159 grows up again. This Zeus, who begat her, seduces his own daughter 434 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:14.360 Phara Fata after her mother do forgetting his former crime he approaches her in the 435 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:17.960 form of a serpent. It has thus proved who he was. According to 436 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:24.840 the Sabazian mysteries. The sign for this who are initiated the god gliding over 437 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:30.159 the breast, and this is a serpent drawn over the breast of those who 438 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:37.639 are initiated, a proof of the incontents incontinence of Zeus. Parafada also gives 439 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.920 birth to a son in the form of a bull. So you have this 440 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:47.599 this cultic imagery that they're thrown out there of these pagan rites. Right that 441 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:54.119 that whole God in the breast thing is huge nail because that's how they identified 442 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:59.880 people who are following the orphic mystery was through that symbol. And people have 443 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.039 argued. I've heard classicists argue about what exactly that means. What is the 444 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.400 God in the breast? Right? Was it some kind of mark? Was 445 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.719 it some kind of indication? Some kind I don't know. They flash hand 446 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:15.679 signals right when you that's what the classes are trying to figure out. When 447 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:20.239 you look at the drugs that are being used and how they're being used, 448 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.039 the serpent in the breast makes a lot more sense. It's going to be 449 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:30.000 those people whose eyes have been opened and they now see via that serpent vision, 450 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.480 that reality via the communion. So yeah, and I'm going to show 451 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.559 you how Mary, oh surprised. I'm going to show you how Mary does 452 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:44.239 it that exact thing. Right. They're gorgeous texts, by the way, 453 00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.920 guys, these are gorgeous texts. You can't get I love it because it 454 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:52.360 shows you what there's that competing ideologies of religion happening in these times. And 455 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:53.840 then he says, this is the lesson what he this is the last thing 456 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:59.199 he says about this. He says, these are the secret mysteries of the 457 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:04.960 Athenian These are the things that Orpheus records. By the way, there's Christian 458 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.199 orphic text in this time where they're claiming Orpheus, and Orpheus is talking about 459 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.800 he actually in one of the texts, I wish I had it with me. 460 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:16.840 I can show it to people later where the god's name of the father 461 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.639 God is Zeus. Jesus is like the son of Zeus in this passage. 462 00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.000 Anyways, these are the things that Orpheus records. But I will set before 463 00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.880 you the very words of Orpheus that you may have the master of mysteries himself 464 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:37.599 as a witness of the shamelessness. She spake and quick her flowing robes withdrawn 465 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:44.119 showed all the secret beauty of her form. The child yachis laughing, stretched 466 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.719 his hand to touch her tender breast, and Babo smiled, and too the 467 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:52.039 goddess smiled with cheerful thought. For some reason, this is a really important 468 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.559 passage, and you see it all. It's excited by so many writers in 469 00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:00.800 the ancient world. And took the shining bowl which held the draw There is 470 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:05.840 also a watchword of the Elusinian mysteries. I already said this. I fasted, 471 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.639 I drank the drought I took from the chest I finished. You know, 472 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.519 obviously worthy are worthy? Rather are the mysteries of Nicks and of torchlight, 473 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:20.960 and the great hearted or rather weak minded people of the arrest that I 474 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.119 and also the Greeks, men of whom remain after Uh. I can't see 475 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:29.840 that last part on my screen right now, but uh, after death, 476 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:37.360 things that they took little for sous is like really getting into this stuff. 477 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.800 And he's trying to what he's trying to do here is he's trying to say 478 00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.760 that all these people who are looking for this divine child, this divine soater 479 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.920 child. We found him. Guys, stop looking. He's here is Jesus. 480 00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.880 He's trying to say that all these pagan mysteries that are all looking for 481 00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.280 this one thing are all pointed to Jesus. That's the whole point of this 482 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.480 book. It's called it's called the Preparation for the Gospel. And then he's 483 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:05.679 basically saying, like, you know, all the stuff that Plato wrote about, 484 00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.119 all the stuff the Pythagorasts wrote about, they're just looking for Christian. 485 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.480 Christianity's the answer to all this stuff. That's what he's trying. That's what 486 00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.320 he's trying to argue in here. But I just find it's fascinating. They 487 00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:22.159 have to they have to go through the the old ways to get to this. 488 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.519 You know what I'm saying. I totally know what he's saying. There 489 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:30.920 was some dirty stuff and then third to last and the very last one you 490 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.360 put up there. Yeah, yeah, bring that up again if you can, 491 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.239 now, because there's something which one just the last one you put up 492 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.480 there, the last the last Yeah, there you go. Look at this, 493 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.840 she spake and quicker flowing robes with drawn. You said this one is 494 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:46.760 super important. It is. It's all over the place. Yeah, and 495 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:52.920 it's hugely in a cult symbol. Right, they talk about this passage for 496 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:58.559 its cult symbol. Right, And what is this doing? Balbo is exposing 497 00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:07.679 herself and quick her flowing robes withdrawn. She's showing the child her secret Beauty's 498 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:13.719 showing the child her secret beauty. And that child is eachos that yahas is 499 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.679 what you are when you are in the right. Euripides shows us this, 500 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:22.800 right, technically it's a shout yah oh right, and just just to highlight 501 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:28.840 how important this is. Yeah, oh, let's that sound like? Yeah, 502 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:34.480 just to show you that when archaeologists are digging all over Greece, especially 503 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:40.800 in Athens, they find these these these idols of women exposing themselves. That's 504 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.639 babo. So this was a so just sort of like how you have with 505 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:51.960 priapus, like the charms. Basically they would hold they would have these in 506 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.000 front of their houses, you know, dick charms. There's a power to 507 00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.400 that exposure. Right. And notice, and this part of the mystery is 508 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.239 watch what happens with the kid? Can we get that tex again new? 509 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.880 Yeah? Yeah, to touch you know, So the kid extends his hands 510 00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:14.840 touch her breasts, right, and Bibo smiled. Then to the goddess smile 511 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:20.679 with cheerful thought. That goddess that they're making smile is Demeter, who is 512 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:27.159 returning back to a happy place from her from the abduction of her daughter. 513 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:32.280 Right, she's looking for the abduction, looking for her daughter. Right then 514 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.079 they took the shining bowl which held the draft. Remember, the only thing 515 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.719 that she's consuming at the time, Demeter is that opium. Right, she's 516 00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:46.639 drinking that opium. The text specifically say that, So this is a very 517 00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:51.559 practical, right, Right, that has to do with the child and the 518 00:44:51.800 --> 00:45:00.079 exposure that brings the the new age. Right then there's a new ruler in 519 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.719 the underworld. Right, she's a queen. It's the only reason Demeter doesn't 520 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:07.039 walk away from everything, right is because that idiot who witnessed it said, 521 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:12.360 you know, she's a great queen. Anyway, that wonderful passage, Neil. 522 00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.760 They thought that was hugely important in antiquity. Oh yeah, this was 523 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:22.039 like a this was a super important ritual from in Athens. And by the 524 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.400 way, you notice how there is no there's no epistle to the Athenians. 525 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.719 Christian Athens was holding steadfast to their rights. As the rest of the Greek 526 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:36.239 world was converting the Christianity, the Athenians were the last ones to stay like 527 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.599 where you know, it's just interesting how that is. Yeah, and it's 528 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:45.199 interesting to read to watch the history of the Romans succumbed to Christianity. That 529 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:50.400 that to me is amazing. It's sad. And so whenever a modern Christian 530 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.719 tells you everything in our society is built, No, no, you guys 531 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:58.639 trashed another society. Well this this was actually written about by one of the 532 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.280 symbols that said that Rome was going to fall because of this. And in 533 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.440 response to that, late like centuries later, somebody was commenting on that, 534 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:12.039 and I have the text here. It's from another Let's see where is it? 535 00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.800 He says, woe is me? Sibiling oracles talk about the fall of 536 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:22.320 Rome. I shall see the day of which the unforfortunate to the oh Rome 537 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.719 most to all Italy. The soldiers imagine with anger him who ascends the Trojan 538 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.840 chariot who came from Asia talking about Aeneas. You know what I mean. 539 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.199 He is all their references to the Trojan War and how you know, Rome 540 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.760 is basically this founding city founded by Aeneas, and then on the bottom the 541 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:46.280 person writes the Sybil like the other poets, supposes the law that day that 542 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.639 Rome fell, but none can think that will be alive. Then therefore such 543 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:55.440 a fiction of former sibyls ought to not be objected against their oracles. The 544 00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:01.480 Trojan Chariot like, notice how he's he's ignored. He's talking shit about the 545 00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:07.559 former Sybyls because they're because of their because it's pagan, you know what I 546 00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.719 mean. He's like, just ignore it, Just ignore the Sibyls from the 547 00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:14.920 previous ages. There's a bunch of pagans. They don't know what they're talking 548 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:21.760 about. But I wanted to set this up for this because after Romulusten remiss, 549 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:27.840 we get these oracles against Rome and then start talking about Nero. See 550 00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.320 which one do I got? I got a bunch of these different neurotexts. 551 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:31.960 Let's see. Let'll start this one. I don't know which one's in order 552 00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:37.920 against an oracle against the gulls. Then there's an oracle against Ethiopians. Then 553 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.760 it says the return of Nero. If you guys hear something weird, I'm 554 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:46.199 gonna have to try to just test that video that just finished rendering to make 555 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:52.239 sure that it's uh not corrupted. And uh so if you hear anything doubling 556 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.159 over, I'll just pause it quickly. Just I just had to verify that's 557 00:47:54.159 --> 00:48:00.280 gonna play that. So all you too, Corinth bewailed the mournful distry auction 558 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:06.840 within you. For when three sister fates spinning with twisted threads. By the 559 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:12.519 way, that's kind of a pagan thing, sister fates right, totally, 560 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.360 Yeah, beyond the bank of the is. You don't hear that in church 561 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.800 that are talking about the sister fates, Like they're not talking about that. 562 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:24.280 This is old terminology being used by Christians anyways. Uh who formally cut off 563 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:29.320 the rock with ductyle bronze, he will destroy and ravage your land. Also 564 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:34.119 as his decreed to him, God gave strength to perform things like no previous 565 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.280 king, one of all the kings. For first of all, cutting off 566 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.840 the roots from the three heads mightily will blow. He will give them to 567 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:46.360 others to eat, so they will eat the flesh of the parents of the 568 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:52.880 impious king. For the murder and terrors are in store for all men because 569 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.559 of the great city and righteous people, which is preserved throughout everything which Providence 570 00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:07.440 held in special place. And then it says, let's see where to go. 571 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:13.320 This is also about Nero in the same book, The Career of Nero, 572 00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.159 in his flight to the East, the poets will bewail thrice wretched Greece. 573 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:22.280 When a great king of Rome riched Greece. Huh, a godlike man 574 00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:28.000 from Italy will cut the ridge of the isthmus him, They say, Zeus 575 00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:35.719 himself begot lady Hera playing at theatricals with honey sweet songs rendered melodious voice. 576 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:39.039 He will destroy many men and his wretched mother. He will flee from Babylon, 577 00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:45.440 a terrible and shameless prince whom all mortals and noble men despise, for 578 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.960 he destroyed many men and laid hands on the wound. He sinned against spouses, 579 00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:57.360 and was sprung from abominable people. See a lot of people Christians not 580 00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.760 like Rome. By the way, they did not like Rome. Call him 581 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.360 dominable people. He will come to the mid to the meetes, the means 582 00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.360 and the kings of the person who were the Christians back then, right, 583 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:14.880 just another Judean fisade. Right, Persians, those whom he first desired to 584 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.119 whom he gave glory lurking with these. By the way, it was well 585 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.039 known that Nero was well connected with the Persian Satraps. He had a lot 586 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:27.760 of allies over there. That's why they were so afraid of him fleeing from 587 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.159 Rome and going to the east to set up a new army and come back. 588 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.000 This was what they thought. This was actually gonna happen. So it 589 00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.440 says he sees the divinely built temple talking about Jerusalem, and burned the citizens 590 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:45.119 and people who went into it, men whom I rightly praised for on his 591 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.639 appearance, the whole creation was shaken, and kings perished, and those in 592 00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:53.400 whom sovereignty remained destroyed. A great city and righteous people. Notice how Zeus 593 00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:58.280 and Hera are in here, like it's no big deal. Zeus and Hera. 594 00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:01.239 Well, imagine a Christian. Imagine going to church today, I don't 595 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.840 care what your nomination is. Imagine Baptists, whatever, Catholic. Imagine that 596 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:09.840 the pastor was like, I wonder what Zeus thinks about all this. Oh, 597 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:14.559 you know, let's ask Hero what she thinks about this. This doesn't 598 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:20.519 happen anymore. Those are they don't exist the way religion is now, those 599 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.800 these gods are there. They're fables, their fiction, their their myths. 600 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:28.039 They don't exist. But in this time period these gods existed still. They 601 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.920 were Damon's. Some even thought Zeus was yeah way, some thought he was 602 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.000 Saturn. There's different ideas floating around there. Wouldn't that be the same thing? 603 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:44.800 Like I mentioned how Soodie says the Phoenicians call l Saturn, and I 604 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:49.360 thought it was and so and not. Well, yeah, Isis also says 605 00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.559 our father is Saturn, which is interesting A little little point on that. 606 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.599 There's another sibling text. I'm trying to find where it is. It's in 607 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:04.239 here somewhere. Where are they laugh They're basically making fun of Bacchus. Let's 608 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.440 see, is this the one? No, all right, we're gonna We're 609 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:13.000 gonna transition over. We might come back to this later when I have a 610 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.280 chance to edit and get to the meat of these videos. I have a 611 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:24.159 whole bunch of other things planned, including something that you'll see that will hopefully 612 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:32.079 be laughable in some respects and sad in others. But let me see if 613 00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:36.039 I can even just show you real quick what I'm talking about. In case 614 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.599 you want to jump ahead of the game and take a look at it yourself. 615 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:46.559 It's good. Yes, I'm just gonna show you this real quick. 616 00:52:49.039 --> 00:53:07.079 On my it's in my history here it was mm hmm. Well, there's 617 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:15.079 a there's a video from Danny Danny Jones where he's talking with Pertase. I 618 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:22.800 don't see it yet. It's not this one. He's talking with a guy 619 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:29.679 who is a Christian apologist, he's actually a Mormon, and he is going 620 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:34.840 on and on about the he's trying he's trying to he's trying to fix what 621 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:39.199 Ammon had said prior prior to and being there, and he does a miserable 622 00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:44.800 job of it, like so bad that it makes the whole argument even worse 623 00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.519 than it was before. So we will get to that. I don't know 624 00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:50.400 why it wasn't my history until I've wanted to look for it now was not 625 00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.119 there, but I forgot the name of the guy. I think it's like 626 00:53:53.360 --> 00:54:00.360 Dan McLellan or something like that. And he was on Danny Jones talking afterward, 627 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.440 and he's kind of trying to do a rebuttal of him, and and 628 00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.360 again, m it's not the be all end all of anything, but his 629 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:09.440 the points that he does make, some are valid, so it's worth listening 630 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:14.280 to the rest of the stuff that goes along with him, and you can 631 00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:17.519 take or leave depending on your your preferences there. But it's, uh, 632 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:22.920 it's a little bit on the odd side, but it's the I mean, 633 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.360 if the Greek says what it says and they were trying to deny it or 634 00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:29.760 change, this is what he's what what McClellan I think his name is h 635 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.000 was trying to do is just oh, it's the context. Like words mean 636 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.599 something, words means something different. If a Christian says it in the Bible, 637 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.639 it doesn't have the same definition anymore. It's basically what his argument was 638 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:45.079 the whole time, and it's it was such a bad argument. It made 639 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:50.079 it made the rest of you know, anyone else to defend. It made 640 00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.639 them sound even worse like he did. Had the exact opposite effect of what 641 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:59.039 he was trying to do. Plus he's a Mormon, right, So I'm 642 00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:00.679 not saying that's you know, whatever, but it's you know, Mormon has 643 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:06.480 a really big SRA problem, Satanic ritual abuse problem. They hide people, 644 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:10.199 they protect them, they do all kinds of strange things and they're really guilty 645 00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:14.239 of a lot of the stuff that we hear about with the elites, and 646 00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:20.440 a lot of the military intelligence comes out of them too, So something to 647 00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:30.360 think about. Let me get to the video now, so I'm gonna have 648 00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.159 to try to find where we left off. So it's gonna be a second. 649 00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:36.119 This is again, it wouldn't have happened if it was a video didn't 650 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:37.920 get corupted. I would have already had it ready to go, but it 651 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:43.960 wouldn't play back for me, So that kind of sucked a lot. It's 652 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.639 gonna start playing on its own as soon as I put it up, That's 653 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:52.880 what it does, all right. So without being able to see a preview 654 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.280 beforehand, I have to find out where we were. Isn't that fun? 655 00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.800 So the picture looks like that, it's a cow. I gotta find that 656 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:04.800 picture of the cow and then start playing from there. That's just gonna be 657 00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:09.079 awesome. Yeah, wait, show me the cow, Show me the cow. 658 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:14.800 Big cows, no lammies, and stop stop at a whammie. Damn 659 00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:23.960 it. This doesn't seem like it's the full video at all, not even 660 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:34.320 close. Hopefully I'm wrong, Yeah, probably wrong. This is a lame 661 00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.440 I happen to find this, like one little picture is like so stupid. 662 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:42.519 It's like the worst thing you'd have to do. Let me, let me 663 00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.000 just go and take a look one more time. I haven't paused on my 664 00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:50.039 old video that I had done, but now I gotta kind of oh oh 665 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:54.639 wait, han wait where we're at? Oh so close? So that picture 666 00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:58.679 right there? If I find that one, we might be good. All 667 00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:00.079 right, all right, let's see. I think I was close to it. 668 00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:15.480 This is stupid. Mm hmm. You know, I think we're gonna 669 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:17.679 do. I think we're just gonna play it. If we're overlapping, We're 670 00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:30.960 overlapping. It is what it is. We went through that, man, 671 00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:37.719 oh man, to have an assistant, to have an assistant. Uh zerk, 672 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:45.199 see we heard about that. I heard about that. I think we 673 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:50.599 might be getting closer. Yeah, let's start that off with this. Let'll 674 00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:52.719 just go forward, resulting in the loss of their chance to return home. 675 00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:59.880 This rebellion is notably executed while Odysseus is resting, a circumstance that I recur 676 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:07.000 in Thrinacia. In another foreshadowing instance, Eurylicus tries to discourage the crew from 677 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:13.679 accompanying Odysseus back to Cerce, even though he's unsuccessful. Here, Eurylicus positions 678 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:19.000 himself as a representative of descent, embodying the voice of those who will later 679 00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:24.079 rebel in Thronachia. The next significant act of insubordination happens as the crew lands 680 00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:31.840 on Thrinacia, drawing them closer to Helios's sacred cattle. Both Thysius and Circe 681 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:37.239 had cautioned Odysseus, I know we've got past this because we talked about the 682 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.480 sacred cattle. Ah, there's the picture right there, all right, cool, 683 00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:47.880 particularly their fear of impending starvation. This mirrors Eurylicus's bleak perspective, where 684 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.480 he states that perishing from hunger is the worst kind of death. Subsequent to 685 00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:57.840 these events, when the Israelites set up camp at Rephidim and are unable to 686 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:02.320 find water, a fresh conflict e merges between them and Moses concerning their thirst. 687 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:07.679 Moses perceives their defiance against him as tantamount to rebelling against God, posing 688 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:13.920 the question why do you dispute with me? Why do you challenge the Lord? 689 00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:17.519 In several narratives, the absence of a leader plays a pivotal role in 690 00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:22.719 the ensuing insurrection. This is evident in the tell, where unable to depart 691 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:29.119 from Thurnakia for a span of thirty days, Odysseus isolates himself from his crew 692 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:34.400 to seek divine intervention. Such a circumstance offers an opportune moment for the crew 693 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:38.280 to defy his instructions, seeking to further their own interests. However, it 694 00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:43.639 would be incorrect to suggest that Odysseus bears the blame for their mutiny, as 695 00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:50.679 some scholars occasionally assert. This perspective seemingly overlooks Zeus's fundamental proclamation on the liability 696 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:57.119 of mortals. Additionally, it fails to recognize the thematic likenesses the Odyssey draws 697 00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:01.760 between the crew and the suitors, especially their engagement in rash deeds pinpointed by 698 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:07.840 Zeus. Both entities exhibit a thematic lack of restraint, which will be further 699 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:13.920 elaborated upon. Conversely, the absence of Odysseus provides insights into his character and 700 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:17.320 how he stands apart from his crew. Modern readers might be taken aback by 701 01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:23.199 these traits, but Odysseus's pursuit of divine guidance reflects his moral compass and leadership's 702 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:30.639 wisdom, emphasizing the captain's devotion and virtuous aspirations. Further, as Stanford remarks, 703 01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:36.000 the choice of Odysseus to commune with the deities in seclusion mirrors the tendencies 704 01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:39.599 of a Hebrew prophet more so than the collective and ritualistic spiritual practices of the 705 01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:45.280 Homeric hero in exitent. Yeah, and again, if you want all of 706 01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:51.239 the people that you are in command of to follow your lead, why doesn't 707 01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:59.880 the deity show himself to everybody? That would settle the argument really quick, 708 01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:05.840 would it not? So going off in seclusion and leaving your people to fester 709 01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:08.280 and wonder what you're up to and wonder what the heck if you just abandoned 710 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:12.639 them or not, and then come back forty days later and be like, 711 01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.719 hey, what's been happening? Why didn't you just you know, like, 712 01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:20.440 there's a better way to do that, and it would have settled all the 713 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.480 questions right away. But nah, now just take my word for it. 714 01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:28.639 Everything's good. I talked to God. You can't ya, Na, it 715 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:32.559 doesn't make sense if you wanted them to follow why why wouldn't God just up 716 01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:39.440 and do what he's seemingly able to do with one person. Hey, I'm 717 01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:43.480 here, this is me. This is what I do. See how I 718 01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.280 do it. You should follow this guy, because I put him in charge. 719 01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:52.039 It would have been settled this thirty two. The prolonged absence of Moses 720 01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:58.039 is what agitates the Israelites, a scenario reminiscent of three Nakia, where the 721 01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:04.639 cruise restlessness proceed Odysseus's solitary quest for prayer due to the winds. The correlation 722 01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:10.119 between Moses's absence and the israelites subsequent defiance is delineated more overtly than in the 723 01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:15.920 Odyssey, as illustrated by the phrase the people saw that Moses was so long 724 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:20.679 in coming down from the mountain. Moses's absence spans forty days, and within 725 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.079 this timeframe in Exodus twenty four, when he departs to converse with Yahweh, 726 01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:30.039 until his return in chapter thirty two, the Old Testament authors interpose an episode 727 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:36.159 which doesn't directly pertain to the insurrection, the narrative of Moses's divine engagement atop 728 01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:42.199 the mountain, as captured between Exodus twenty five to thirty one synthesizes two mythological 729 01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.639 I always thought that this thing right here in the middle with a little uh, 730 01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:49.880 it looks like a camera, like they're setting up for a video or 731 01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:54.880 something. It just looks funny. It's like and action goal structures an a 732 01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:00.519 basis and the visionary experience. Moses has a scent or going up, referred 733 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:06.679 to as an anabasis in the septuagen is analogous to a celestial journey. As 734 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:12.079 Moses scales the peak, he metaphorically nears the heavens. Here he is endowed 735 01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:16.719 with a modified visionary experience, with Yahweh serving as his otherworldly mentor. In 736 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:22.239 both tales, the leader's absence stems from their engagement or attempt to communicate with 737 01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:28.440 the divine, as seen with Moses and Odysseus, while the respective followers act 738 01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:34.320 in defiance of their deities intent. In moments of exacerbated impatience, people often 739 01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:37.599 seek alternative leaders, who, in the absence of a direct connection to the 740 01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:43.400 divine, tend to oppose sacred edicts to fulfill the demands of the disappointed. 741 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:50.559 Eurylicos exhibits such tendencies on numerous occasions. He is believed to be the unidentified 742 01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:55.440 crew member who tempts fate by opening Aeolus's bag, a transgression that notably occurs 743 01:03:55.559 --> 01:04:03.159 during Odysseus's slumber. Eurylicos directly confis fronts Odysseus on Ayayah and plays a pivotal 744 01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:09.800 role in the decision to dock at Thrinakia in Exodus thirty two. Aaron pants 745 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:14.559 just seem to slow these people down no need, and Moses's sibling and the 746 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:19.199 high priest tasked with leading sacrificial rights, steps into this surrogate leadership role. 747 01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:25.280 It's essential to note that Aaron was not originally a front runner amongst the disgruntles 748 01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:29.039 in previous narratives. He was, in fact a target of their rage. 749 01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:34.199 The Israelites fault him and Moses for their predicaments with Pharaoh and for their tribulations 750 01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:39.719 en route to Canaan. However, it's during their prolonged stay at Mount Sinai's 751 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:44.559 base, in the protracted absence of Moses, that Aaron rises as the leader 752 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:50.480 of the dissenting group. The disparity in behavior Eurylicosis recurrent confrontations with Odysseus in 753 01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:57.639 contrast to Aaron's loyalty to Moses up until Exodus thirty two becomes more pronounced when 754 01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:02.599 assessing their eventual destinies in the elimination of their respective myths. Both protagonists and 755 01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:08.039 the narrative share the trade of having a relative in a secondary leadership role. 756 01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:14.280 Eurylica shares family ties with Odysseus, being connected through marriage has highlighted in Odysseus's 757 01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:20.800 recounting. This bond becomes particularly significant when Odysseus contemplates retribution against Urylicos for attempting 758 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:26.480 to deter the crew from journeying to Circe's abode. Despite the degree of kinship 759 01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.800 not being as close as that of Aaron and Moses, the fundamental sentiment remains 760 01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:34.840 consistent. It is unexpected for a relative to exhibit disloyalty to the main leader. 761 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:41.800 Aaron's introduction into Moses' overarching narrative comes notably late. His emergence is only 762 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:46.800 recorded post Moses's marriage and extended tenure with the Midianites. Specifically, it's upon 763 01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:53.159 the conclusion of the Burning Bush episode where Yahweh designates Arin as Moses's spokesperson. 764 01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:58.800 Interestingly, while Moses's sister gets a mention albeit without a name in the primary 765 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:03.920 narrative. Aaron's conspicuous absence despite his significant involvement later on, is intriguing. 766 01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:11.239 Some scholars underscore this delayed introduction, remarking on the absence of prior mention of 767 01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:15.599 Aaron, saying no previous report of Aaron's existence had been made. The apparent 768 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:20.880 contradictions in Aaron's portrayal, ranging from being a leader of the dissenters to the 769 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:26.880 progenitor of the priestly lineage, could likely be attributed to the merging of disparate 770 01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:32.519 narratives, resulting in certain incongruities. Prior to significant divergencies in their narratives, 771 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:40.360 both Eurylicus and Aaron are portrayed as collaborators with the primary protagonists. Eurylicus, 772 01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:46.000 although frequently portrayed as confronting or opposing Odysseus, also aids him on several occasions, 773 01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:50.480 especially in religious rituals. In the Realm of Hades, Eurylicus, along 774 01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:56.000 with another crew member, Paramedes, helps with the sacrifice of two rams in 775 01:06:56.159 --> 01:07:00.119 line with circes guidance, following her previous directions. When when they later confront 776 01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:06.400 the sirens, it is Circe's explicit instructions that save them, detaelling how Odysseus 777 01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:12.559 can listen to their song yet remain unscathed, emphasizing that should he request to 778 01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:16.760 be released, his bindings should instead be tightened. When the songs allure proves 779 01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:24.119 irresistible to Odysseus, it is Paramedes and Eurylicus who enforced his bindings, following 780 01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:29.880 circes divine commands, evoking the ritualistic nature of the event into the Hades sacrifice 781 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:34.920 in the same vein Aarin in relation to Moses Echoes Urylicos's relationship with Odysseus, 782 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:42.199 though he later spearheads the rebellion in Exodus thirty two, Aaron's earlier representations depict 783 01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:48.280 him harmoniously collaborating with Moses. His inaugural mention in Exodus reveals Yahweh's intention for 784 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:55.119 the brothers to act in concert with Aaron as Moses' mouthpiece. Throughout Moses's engagements 785 01:07:55.159 --> 01:08:00.519 with Pharaoh, Aaron consistently partners with him, showcasing their collaborative spear As the 786 01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:05.599 inaugural high Priest of Israel, Aaron's intimate involvement in sacrificial rights is evident their 787 01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:12.599 collaborative endeavors peaque when they jointly petition Pharaoh for permission to conduct a sacrifice to 788 01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:17.520 Yahweh. When Pharaoh's subsequent denial, Erin's capacities are highlighted as he executes a 789 01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:24.359 series of miraculous acts, including transforming the Niles waters to blood. These acts 790 01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:38.920 intriguingly foreshadow his capability to fashion the Golden calf later on, disrespecting the divine. 791 01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:45.000 In his desire to avoid death by starvation, considered the most tragic demise, 792 01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:48.920 Eurylicos suggests slaughtering the prime cattle of Helios, and now we know why 793 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:54.720 the communists love the star of people. As an offering to the gods of 794 01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:59.960 Olympus, he then proposes to perform rights in honor of Helios once they returned 795 01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:05.039 home. The transgression is artfully concealed within the framework of ritual practices. With 796 01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:11.239 Odysseus away in slumber, Eurylicos and the rest of the crew proceed to see 797 01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:16.439 several of Helios's cattle. They offer prayers before slaughtering, skinning, and roasting 798 01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:23.520 the animals, committing a profound sacrilege. In a parallel narrative, certain Israelites, 799 01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:30.640 resembling the most unnamed crew members of Odysseus save four Prayamedes, approach Erin 800 01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:35.760 with a request to create and venerate idols not dedicated to Yahweh. Heating their 801 01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:43.359 wishes, Aaron collects their gold earrings and crafts the golden calf, even constructing 802 01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:46.039 an altar to worship it. This act of using it, they said, 803 01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:49.399 we want a god we can see again. Yeah, we could have done 804 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:53.640 something about that, if you really want to do in gold jewelry can be 805 01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:58.119 traced back to an earlier episode in Egypt, where the Israelites had acquired gold 806 01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:03.520 and silver ornaments from their neighbors, Although Exodus thirty two two to three specifically 807 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:08.720 cites the nose rings as the source, what they're doing here also is a 808 01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:14.479 parable to the Pagans and the image, because the image is what they call 809 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.199 the idol right, the idol worship, or whatever the image was important in 810 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:24.399 the pagan rights of the drug induced death and rebirth. They would actually even 811 01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:29.399 jot down after your experience what you could what you could say in words. 812 01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:35.640 They would write your experience out to see if they could find is this from 813 01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:40.880 a book or justice analysis it's pulling from a bunch of different sources. I 814 01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:46.600 don't know what myth vision does in the backside of their performances, but I 815 01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:51.600 don't know Polka, he's quoting the Exodus an awful lot of stuff like that. 816 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:58.000 But as far as it's comparative between this and the exploration in the Greek 817 01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:02.159 myth. But what was I saying about the image is that that they're kind 818 01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:08.079 of with the Golden Calf, they're kind of a bringing up the idea of 819 01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:17.079 the pagan being of course against Yahweh, which we were just listening to Nazik 820 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:21.640 informat and how that was that wasn't separate before. It also kind of shows 821 01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:28.079 the dating to be much later in history than what they say was it was 822 01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:33.079 written the Golden Calf. There's a possibility that it indirectly alludes to the jewelry 823 01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:39.359 mentioned in Exodus eleven two. In both Greek and Old Testament narratives, divine 824 01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:45.079 prohibitions play a recurrent and crucial role. A comparison can be drawn between Adam 825 01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:48.920 and Eves violation of the ban against consuming from the Tree of Knowledge and the 826 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:55.000 Greek myths, wherein Epimetheus is warned not to receive gifts from Zeus, and 827 01:11:55.119 --> 01:12:00.560 Pandora is cautioned against opening the urn. As recorded in Works and Days, 828 01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:05.880 These stories symbolize the initial pairs in both Israelite and Greek mythologies. A reoccurring 829 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:12.079 theme in these tales is the failure of humans, early humans to honor agreements 830 01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:16.119 with deities, especially in heating divine prohibitions. In the Biblical story of the 831 01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:20.720 destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, an angel instructs Lot and his family not to 832 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:27.359 glance back while escaping. The dire consequence of ignoring the divine command is vividly 833 01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:31.479 illustrated when Lot's wife, defying the command, transformed into a pillar of salt. 834 01:12:31.720 --> 01:12:39.800 In Homer's Odyssey, Circe reiterates Tyresius's warnings to avoid harm nice God right 835 01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:45.920 arming Heliosi's cattle, elevating a seer's warning to the stature of a divine command 836 01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:50.560 central to the end. And of course that's also symbolism in cryptic language, 837 01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:58.159 it's not a literal thing that happened. They're talking about some type of right 838 01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:04.239 or ritual that they're conducting, and it's portrayed that way. Exodus narrative, 839 01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:10.960 the Decalogue is comprised solely of divine prohibitions. By crafting the idol and participating 840 01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:15.119 in the ritual, Aarin and the dissenting Israelites breach three of these decrees. 841 01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:20.039 You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself 842 01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:26.840 an image in the form of anything in heaven above, or on earth beneath, 843 01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:30.760 or in the waters below. You should not bow down to them or 844 01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:38.399 worship them. For I the Lord your God, and the jealous God punishing 845 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:43.199 the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation. 846 01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:50.359 That sounds like a psychopathomy and a jealous one of those who hate me Exodus 847 01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:57.479 twenty three through five. Subsequent to this initial version of the Decalogue, Yahweh 848 01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:03.520 expressly instructs Moses, you must not make gods of silver to be worshiped beside 849 01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:11.439 me, nor may you make yourselves gods of gold. This additional divine prohibition 850 01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:16.039 is also infringed upon by Aaron and the defiant Israelites. A striking similarity in 851 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:23.319 both myths is the direct conveyance of divine prohibitions by the deities Circe and Yahweh 852 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:30.479 to the pivotal figures Odysseus and Moses, respectively. Both myths depict the rebels 853 01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:36.159 rituals as a skewed imitation of authentic ceremonies. In the Odyssey, Eurylicos and 854 01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:42.000 his team are primarily driven by hunger, with the sacrifice to Helios serving merely 855 01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:45.920 as a cover. The genuineness of their sacrifice is further brought into question by 856 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:51.800 their use of unsuitable substitutes. In place of barley, they scatter oat leaves, 857 01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:58.640 and without wine, they offer water as libations. The legitimacy of their 858 01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:05.399 ceremony is question disregarding the divine prohibitions surrounding the cattle. Their subsequent banquet spans 859 01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:13.000 six days and is punctuated by eerie omens, including moving cattle hides and sound 860 01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:16.439 of mooing from the meat being roasted. As some scholars have pointed out, 861 01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:23.680 this last feast, with its unsettling omens, bears thematic similarities to the final 862 01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:30.600 meal of the suitors in the Odyssey and Theoclimenis's foreboding vision of a palace drenched 863 01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:36.920 in blood haunted by ghostly apparitions. A comparable narrative emerges with Aaron and the 864 01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:43.479 Israelites their creation of the golden calf defies divine mandates. The following events are 865 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:46.479 marked by a day long feast where they sat down to eat and drink, 866 01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:53.439 and later engaged in festivity. Scholars draw attention to the disparity between this ritualistic 867 01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:59.840 behavior and their subsequent hedonism, highlighting that the people's actions mimic the Covenant's formulation 868 01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:03.600 in Chapter twenty four, which also encompass sacrifice and a holy meal in the 869 01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:08.720 presence of a discernible deity. In both myths, there's an association with the 870 01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:12.159 same animal type, whether it's a cow, bull, or a calf. 871 01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:15.960 While these animals are commonly used in sacrificial rites and represented as divine symbols, 872 01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:21.520 this similarity, albeit broad, provides yet another parallel. In Exodus thirty two, 873 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:27.920 the bovine representation of the idol adds a layer of mockery. Having encountered 874 01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:31.520 Yahweh, the Israelites revert to venerating a deity linked to an animal form. 875 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:38.199 This serves as a reflection of the shared sacrificial traditions between the Greeks and Israelites 876 01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:44.399 evident throughout the Mosaic text. We must emphasize that the dissenters are actually conscious 877 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:50.079 of the transgressions they are undertaking. Caesius four warns of the crew's doom if 878 01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:58.319 they harm Helios's cattle. Notably, both Eurylicos and Paramedes are present during this 879 01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:04.760 prophecy alongside Odysseus. Later, as they sell past Tharnakia, Odysseus conveys the 880 01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:11.880 essence of Teresius's warning to the entire crew, eliciting from them an oath to 881 01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:16.600 refrain from killing any ox or sheep, which they duly swear. The gravity 882 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:23.760 of infringing upon Helios's cattle is not lost on them. Eurylicos's own words when 883 01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:28.800 advocating for the consumption of the cattle a test to his comprehension of the peril. 884 01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:33.560 Despite being fully apprised of the consequences, they consciously decide they'd prefer perishing 885 01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:40.000 at sea over succumbing to hunger on Thurnachia, and their wish is tragically granted 886 01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:45.279 in the context of the Old Testament. Given the relentless critiques against venerating any 887 01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:50.680 deity other than Yahueh, the Israelites would undoubtedly recognize, even if subconsciously, 888 01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:58.560 that they're partaking an apostasy. This apogy. If you're the creator and a 889 01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.479 group of piece people have a different impression of what the creator is and they 890 01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:08.239 worship are they still worshiping you? Because if you are the creator, you've 891 01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:14.520 created that thing too, right, I don't know. State act is thematically 892 01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:19.720 known to illicit Yahweh's anger, as particularly emphasized in Exodus twenty five. Both 893 01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:27.439 myths incorporate discussions regarding temple construction in the honesty while persuading the crew to sacrifice 894 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:31.439 some of Helios's cattle, Eurylico's promises to construct a temple in honor of the 895 01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:38.159 God upon their safe arrival. Such a subject is infrequently broached in Homeric epics. 896 01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:45.920 Alfred Hubeck elaborates mentions of dedicating temples are especially noteworthy in homer considering there 897 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:50.199 are hardly any mentions of Greek temples, save for one the Temple of Athena 898 01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:57.399 at Athens and another at Troy and among the Phoenicians. Historically, Dark Age 899 01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:04.880 Greeks began constructing temples relatively later, perhaps influenced by external cultures. Eurylicos's commitment, 900 01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:11.600 juxtaposed with his urging to harm the God's sacred livestock exudes a sense of 901 01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:16.359 thoughtless contradiction. Meanwhile, the Exodus narrative in the chapters preceding thirty two, 902 01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:25.039 extensively details the blueprint of the tabernacle and its associated offerings. Though presented distinctively, 903 01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:30.640 this is another shared motif between the myths, strategically positioned in their respective 904 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:36.520 narratives. Eurylicos's envision temple is opulent, filled with agalmata, or offerings pleasing 905 01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:42.239 to the gods. These could be sacrifices, artifacts, or even idols. 906 01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:49.680 The Septuagen's translation also utilizes agalmata in similar contexts. The terms inaugural mention in 907 01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:56.920 the Odyssey sheds light on its versatility. Agistos, drawing parallels to the suitors 908 01:19:57.279 --> 01:20:04.119 and the crew post sacrificing animal, presents agalmata comprising gold and woven artifacts as 909 01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:15.119 tokens of appreciation for winning Climenestra's affection. Like Eurylicos, Egistus offers agomata subsequent 910 01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:18.840 to deeds frowned upon by the gods, as emphasized by Zeus. When nest 911 01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:27.520 identifies Athena's prior presence, he pledges a gilded horned yearling cow as a sacrifice 912 01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:32.520 to her. This offering, later meticulously detailed, is identified as an algomata 913 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:39.399 for Athena, echoing the gilded calf idol in Exodus thirty two. The Odyssey's 914 01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:45.520 sole portrayal of the Trojan horse from the Trojan's viewpoint offers intriguing parallels. The 915 01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:53.520 Trojans, after some contemplation, consider the wooden horse a divine agomata and usher 916 01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:58.760 it into their city, mirroring the Israelites in Exodus thirty two. The Trojans, 917 01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:04.039 in linking this wooden representation to deities, inadvertently still their fate. Odysseus 918 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:11.279 and Moses discerned the indiscretions of their people from Afar upon their return. As 919 01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:15.119 Odysseus wakes up and makes his way back to the ship, he detects the 920 01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:20.479 aroma of roasting meat even before reaching his crew. Similarly, as Moses descends 921 01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:27.640 the mountain with the tablets crafted by Yahweh, Joshua assumes the noises are from 922 01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:33.119 a battle. However, Moses more accurately discerns it is not the sound of 923 01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:39.159 victory or the sound of defeat. It's the sound of singing that I hear. 924 01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:44.239 I think we did catch this last week or last Monday, but uh 925 01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:47.560 yeah, we'll get caught up your son, Exodus thirty two. The Septuagint 926 01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:55.039 further expresses joyfulness among the Israelites, which closely aligns with the atmosphere in Odyssey 927 01:21:55.159 --> 01:22:00.079 twelve, where the celebratory feast continues for six days. The text states, 928 01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:12.640 I hear their voice led by wine. Exodus thirty two, Total destruction by 929 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:17.720 wrathful gods. In a celestial assembly, Helios, consumed by rage over an 930 01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:24.279 affront, warns Zeus that he may refrain from illuminating the earth, saying, 931 01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:28.560 if they fail to offer me fair compensation for my cattle, I will descend 932 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:32.359 to Hades and light up the realm of the deceased. As Professor Lauden references 933 01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:38.960 in his book in chapter one, this represents a distinct variant of celestial assembly, 934 01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:43.920 where in the supreme sky, deity such as Zeus arbitrates with an angered 935 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:48.800 god who issues threats of widespread devastation. A parallel can be seen in the 936 01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:55.039 Epic of Gilgamesh. Here's another thing to consider. So if Helios is above 937 01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:59.399 Zeus in the sense here, and Zeus is equated to you, yeah, 938 01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:04.239 the Ahwah isn't the top dog. Enraged, Ishtar confronts Anu, proclaiming, 939 01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:09.399 I shall direct myself to the nether world and awaken the deceased, causing them 940 01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:13.960 to consume the living, outnumbering them. Should Helios decide to cast his lights 941 01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:18.920 solely in the underworld, it would inevitably result in a cataclysmic event, extinguishing 942 01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:25.960 all life on Earth. Yet Zeus adeptly pacifies Helios, convincing him to limit 943 01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:30.479 his retribution solely to those humans who harmed his cattle. Upon learning of an 944 01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:36.119 insurrection, Yahweh's reaction mirrors that of Helios. He is so deeply aggrieved by 945 01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:42.880 their act that he contemplates annihilating all Israelites, beyond just the culprits of the 946 01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:49.199 indiscretion. However, Moses intervenes similarly to how Zeus pacified Helios. As highlighted 947 01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:56.159 in Professor Lauden's Chapter one of his book, Moses's conversation with Yahweh can be 948 01:23:56.239 --> 01:24:00.640 viewed as a type of celestial assembly reminiscent of the Zuus Helios exchange. This 949 01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:06.479 assembly is groundbreaking for two reasons. It involves discourse between a deity and a 950 01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:13.640 mortal, and it portrays Moses in a role customarily associated with a supreme deity. 951 01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:18.680 Several scholars have observed that in various episodes of Exodus, Moses assumes responsibilities 952 01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:24.439 typically ascribe to a deity. In this distinct scenario, Moses, much like 953 01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:30.039 Zeus or Au, negotiates with the wrathful god Yahue. Akin to Helios or 954 01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:34.640 Ishtar, Moses succeeds in moderating Yahweh's fury, convincing him to reduce the scale 955 01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:40.960 of punishment from a potential annihilation of the entire Israelite population to the demise of 956 01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:45.640 a mere three thousand individuals. There are broader thematic resemblances between the narratives of 957 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:51.920 Poseidon in Homeric literature and Yahweh in the Old Testament episodes. Both deities voice 958 01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:59.520 grievances about perceived disrespect, as demonstrated by Poseidon at Odyssey thirteen and Iliad seven, 959 01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:04.199 by this being a prevalent motif. Considering the parallels identified between Yahweh and 960 01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:11.840 Poseidon in chapter seven of Laudon's book, these deities appear to share significant similarities. 961 01:25:12.079 --> 01:25:16.039 A speculative hypothesis proposed by E. L. Brown suggests that the dayon 962 01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:23.840 in posiding On or Poseidon, as referenced in Homer, might be etymologically linked 963 01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:28.840 to Dagon, a primary deity of the Philistines in the Old Testament tales, 964 01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:33.239 given that numerous archais, which is interesting because when you read the Eugaritic texts, 965 01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:36.239 which I don't understand why these people still get this wrong a lot, 966 01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:41.479 and when they're doing their presentations, if they read it, Dagon was the 967 01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:48.720 father of ball. Ball wasn't Elle's child, So that's that's something that I 968 01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:54.560 thought would be more important to them, since he's the only deity in the 969 01:25:56.039 --> 01:26:01.760 way to call the pantheon that wasn't a son of l theologists now linked the 970 01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:09.079 Philistines with the Mycenaean Greek culture, the plausibility of an etymology connection between these 971 01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:14.279 names is conceivable. Both Odysseus from the Odyssey and Moses from the Book of 972 01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:18.439 Exodus are portrayed as figures set apart from their respective companions due to their principled 973 01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:24.119 actions and avoidance of transgressions. In the case of Odysseus, during the episode 974 01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:29.960 where his crew sacrilegiously slaughters the cattle of Helios, he is absent engaging in 975 01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:33.640 prayer, he neither partakes in the sacrilegious act nor indulgence in the subsequent feast. 976 01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:41.199 This distinction is emblematic of Odysseus's intrinsic self discipline contrasted with the impulsive nature 977 01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:48.439 of his crew, highlighting his unique moral fiber. This one says what the 978 01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:59.399 Hecateus is going on. Biblical authors have painted vivid portraits of iconic figures, 979 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:06.399 treating them as historical luminaries, regardless of some of the rather eyebrow raising assertions 980 01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:14.000 Abraham's age of one seventy five a walk in the park compared to Adams wopping 981 01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:17.800 nine hundred and thirty year tenure. Through the honals of history, historians and 982 01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:26.000 ecclesiastical scholars, with fervor akin to investigative detectives, have endeavored to tether these 983 01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:33.680 Biblical tells to the realm of historical accuracy, their tools intricate genealogies and comparative 984 01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:42.159 historiography, striving to lend the patriarchal chronicles an air of authenticity befitting the second 985 01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:47.920 millennium BCE. Yet, as times relentless march continues, our academic arsenal has 986 01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:56.640 evolved providing sharper instruments for dissecting the veracity of these age old tells. The 987 01:27:56.800 --> 01:28:02.840 unquestioned existence of these Biblical heavyweights was the modus apparandi even for the most discerning 988 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:10.640 scholars, until that is, the twentieth century's latter half bestowed upon us a 989 01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:16.439 plot twist. Upon uncovering the intricate tapestry of sources that constitute the genesis and 990 01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:25.720 patriarchal narratives, theories abounded. The documentary hypothesis, the supplementary hypothesis, and 991 01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:32.680 their scholarly siblings arose, all questing to reconcile the improbability of Moses, single 992 01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:40.279 handedly pinning this voluminous work. By the nineteenth century, that notion had all 993 01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:45.520 but retired to the annals of antiquated thought. If there ever was an exodus, 994 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:49.159 it is absolutely nothing like the Bible describes it. The same can be 995 01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:54.760 said about the United Monarchy with King David and Solomon. The more we dig, 996 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:59.479 the more scandalous it seems that the Bible is not historically accurate. But 997 01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:03.560 is that the author's goal? Are they trying to convince their readers and hearers 998 01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:09.479 of a fake history? As Plato recommended in his writings. In the historical 999 01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:15.199 pursuit of the Biblical patriarchs, many scholars, equipped with both archaeological tools and 1000 01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:20.800 scripture, sought empirical confirmation of these iconic figures. In Egypt, one is 1001 01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:27.079 presented with names from First Immediate Period circa twenty one eighty one to twenty fifty 1002 01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:33.560 five BCE associated with Abraham and believed to be Amorites. This association arises because 1003 01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:41.960 of the phonetic resemblance to the Amuru from South Mesopotamia emerging around the same epoch. 1004 01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:47.039 Parallelly, the Hixsos linked to Jacob and Joseph are perceived as invaders with 1005 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:55.000 Amorite affiliations. Curiously, it's the nomenclature of these patriarchs that seemingly connect these 1006 01:29:55.239 --> 01:30:00.319 historical dots, allowing scholars to interpret these tales as densed history of the Near 1007 01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:04.680 East. During the second millennium, when drafting foundational stories of a nation, 1008 01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:11.920 it's likely that authors might retroject their primeval figures, and here we have a 1009 01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:16.079 depiction of Chronos saturn Rate in front of our faces. Here they are glass 1010 01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:24.359 into antiquated settings, lending of veneer of authenticity. This perspective gains weight. 1011 01:30:24.520 --> 01:30:30.159 Considering the lack of archaeological traces for many cited cities or their emergence only in 1012 01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:35.880 the eighth and seventh centuries BCE, how can one validate a twelfth century BCE 1013 01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:45.359 conquest of cities that archaeologically appear half a millennium later. Such narratives likely embellished 1014 01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:55.399 retellings of pure literary creations, often weave in contemporaneous nuances, inadvertently revealing their 1015 01:30:55.479 --> 01:31:01.239 true temporal origins to draw a playful analogy. Discovering a gospel where Peter Cruz 1016 01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:04.600 is in a Honda city, I think we did go past this holdon because 1017 01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:11.640 we did the Honda civic thing. Let me bring it up a little Bitologists 1018 01:31:11.960 --> 01:31:16.800 have demonstrated a contempt for the Persian period and removed its remains to rubbish dumps 1019 01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:21.600 in order to get down to the real Israelite layers lemkey sites. A. 1020 01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:28.359 Mazar's Archaeology of the Land of the Bible five eighty six PCE as illustrative to 1021 01:31:28.439 --> 01:31:32.920 this attitude. As for the Hellenistic period, it should never be forgotten that 1022 01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:41.119 the revitalization of the ancient Near East only became a fact after the Greek takeover 1023 01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:46.720 boom, there you go. There was barely anything there, barely anything going 1024 01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:56.359 on until the Greeks were involved. It is an established fact that city life 1025 01:31:56.800 --> 01:32:02.840 vastly expanded after the conquest of all Lexander. Here we must realize what happened 1026 01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:10.439 in Jerusalem and in Palestine, innovations that were comparable, although on a smaller 1027 01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:16.880 scale, to the cultural developments in Syria, Mesopotamia and Egypt. Scholars may 1028 01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:23.000 nurse very romantic ideas about what may have happened in the nooks and crannies of 1029 01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:30.439 pre Hellenistic Palestine in a society considerably poorer than the one found there, for 1030 01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:35.439 example, during the Late Bronze Age. A more worldly and realistic assessment of 1031 01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:41.560 facts suggest that the Persian period was not the time when the Old Testament could 1032 01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.960 have been written down. Hardly any parallel exists to such a development, but 1033 01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:51.960 a lot of evidence that says the Hellenistic Age was the formative period of early 1034 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:58.640 Jewish thought and literature, as witnessed by the Old Testament itself. The myriad 1035 01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:03.439 of laws within the the Hebrew Bible draw parallels more closely to the works of 1036 01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:09.439 Plato, rather than the traditions of the ancient Near East. Both Gamerican and 1037 01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:17.520 Philip Wagenbaum theorized that Plato's philosophical treaties were seminal influences shaping the Biblical author's formulation 1038 01:33:18.199 --> 01:33:24.920 of idealistic national laws. When we look at Greek literature, we can see 1039 01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:30.119 that the Biblical tells of the Israelites exodus under Moses and their conquest under Joshua 1040 01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:35.720 are quite similar to the Greek foundation stories. Even though this kind of storytelling 1041 01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:40.720 wasn't common in the ancient Near East, it was very popular among the Greeks 1042 01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:45.920 during the Hellenistic period. Land promises given to the biblical figures like Abraham, 1043 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:50.079 Isaac, and Jacob, and those given to heroes like Heracles and Aneas. 1044 01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:58.039 The stories of these patriarchs served as a prelude to the foundation of the Israelite 1045 01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:05.239 nation by Moses and jo Similarly, Greek tales about ancient heroes and foundational ancestors 1046 01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:15.520 provided a historical context for subsequent movements and conquests. The Israelites journey and settlement 1047 01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:20.680 into the promised land mirrors Greek myths like the Return of the Heraclids. Usually, 1048 01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:26.640 foundation stories, which explain how a group settled in a new territory, 1049 01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:32.319 begin by detailing the problems that made them leave their original home. These issues 1050 01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:41.640 could be overpopulation, famine, disease outbreaks, natural disasters, economic problems, 1051 01:34:42.039 --> 01:34:47.760 internal conflicts, forced exile, military defeats, or escaping potential conquests, and 1052 01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:56.399 enslavement. In one ancient Jewish story written by Hecateus of Abderrah around three point 1053 01:34:56.399 --> 01:35:03.119 fifteen BCE, it said that Egypt became overpopulated, leading the Egyptians to send 1054 01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:11.039 settlers to places including Babylon and Judea. Another tale from Beneatho, written around 1055 01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:16.239 two eighty five BCE, claims that Jerusalem and Judea were first inhabited by the 1056 01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:21.880 Hixos, foreign rulers who took over Egypt, but were later forced out by 1057 01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:30.119 the Egyptians due to a disease outbreak linked to the Hixos's ungodly practices. In 1058 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:35.560 contrast, the biblical Exodus story, written around two seventy BCE, presents a 1059 01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:43.720 different viewpoint. The Egyptians faced plagues as punishment for enslaving the Israelites, and 1060 01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:48.880 only after suffering these calamities did the Pharaoh let them go. This narrative of 1061 01:35:49.159 --> 01:35:57.600 escaping from bondage fits the pattern of Hellenistic foundation stories and is a consistent theme 1062 01:35:57.800 --> 01:36:03.680 in Biblical tales. Their quest for freedom aligns well with Greek tells. A 1063 01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:09.560 pivotal moment in the Exodus story is when God chooses Moses to be the liberator 1064 01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:14.880 and guide for the Jewish people. This revelation occurs when Moses, in exile 1065 01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:20.199 from Egypt, discovers a holy site in the Sinai Desert. God informs him 1066 01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:26.359 that he has been chosen to lead the Israelites out of Egypt to a new 1067 01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:34.680 homeland with Aaron's assistance. Although hesitant and unsure, Moses accepts this significant responsibility 1068 01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:43.159 in the Biblical story, Moses's divine selection to lead mirrored a common trend seen 1069 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.800 in Greek foundation tells. Typically, in these tales, an oracle, usually 1070 01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:54.760 at the famed del Phi sanctuary dedicated to Apollo, would choose the leader termed 1071 01:36:54.920 --> 01:37:03.359 oikist for a colonization mission. This oikis held various roles expedition head, military 1072 01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:10.880 leader, spiritual guide, and law enforcer. It was a reoccurring theme for 1073 01:37:11.039 --> 01:37:17.920 these leaders to be unexpectedly chosen guidance for their journey, including specific landmarks and 1074 01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:25.640 signs to determine settlement. Areas often came from the Delphi Oracle. On some 1075 01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:30.239 journeys, a prophet or spiritual guide accompanied the leader, aiding in establishing the 1076 01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:38.520 new settlement. The Biblical account showcases the Israelites as an organized, armed group 1077 01:37:39.159 --> 01:37:45.640 constantly prepared for battle as they journeyed from Egypt. Moses was their military strategist, 1078 01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:49.920 but their triumphs, whether in battle against various tribes or major exodus from 1079 01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:57.000 Egypt, were attributed to the divine intervention of Yahweh. This description of the 1080 01:37:57.079 --> 01:38:01.479 exodus sets the stage for the next phase, the conquest, where Joshua takes 1081 01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:08.399 over Moses' military role. Throughout these narratives, the main emphasis is on the 1082 01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:14.399 armed men. Women, children in livestock are seen as under their protection, 1083 01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:19.520 while the fighters are the focus of accounts and are explicitly numbered. The portrayal 1084 01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:26.359 of this migration, then is of an armed group transitioning from one territory to 1085 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:33.720 conquer another. This depiction aligns with Greek tells, where colonization parties often journeyed 1086 01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:42.239 as arm contingents. It's at Delphi that Apollo, recognized as the god guiding 1087 01:38:42.439 --> 01:38:55.920 migrations and settlements, was consulted. In the Bible, Mount Sinai serves as 1088 01:38:55.960 --> 01:39:00.479 the pivotal spot where God communicates with Moses, and this return to Sinai in 1089 01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:06.560 the Exodus narrative is the backdrop for the profound moment where Moses climbs the mountain 1090 01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:14.000 and receives God's commandments. In Greek tales, the leader often revisits the Delphi 1091 01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:19.600 Oracle for advice on pressing issues. This trip back to the oracle sometimes left 1092 01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:26.760 the expedition group alone for extended times, akin to Moses's forty days stay on 1093 01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:31.920 the mountain. Moses, as the lawgiver, fits seamlessly within the Greek narrative 1094 01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:39.279 structure. In Greek tells, the oikest typically established laws for the new settlement. 1095 01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:45.640 Historical accounts and legends often credit ancient law codes to singular prominent figures, 1096 01:39:46.199 --> 01:39:51.840 such as Lycurgus or Solon, who sometimes were believed to have received these laws 1097 01:39:51.960 --> 01:40:00.039 directly from deities. Established processes even allowed for proposed law codes. For those 1098 01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:04.920 of you just listening, they show the loyal leaves around both of those coins 1099 01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:11.159 or Salon, and like her is same thing that you see around the United 1100 01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:14.279 Nations. So you got the whole club of Roman aspect. In there too, 1101 01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:19.680 which kind of indicates that the Roman Empire is alive and well, just 1102 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:26.640 in a different form. It's to be presented at an oracle like Delphi to 1103 01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:32.560 gain divine approval. While Greek narratives often depict lawgivers getting divine laws via specific 1104 01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:40.680 ceremonial methods, the Bible portrays Moses directly meeting God at Sinai amid an awe 1105 01:40:40.760 --> 01:40:46.399 inspiring natural display. At Mount Sinai, Moses supervised the creation of a special 1106 01:40:46.520 --> 01:40:51.560 tint and its items. This tent wasn't just a place of worship, but 1107 01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:57.439 was believed to be the dwelling place of God. As the Israelites traveled through 1108 01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:01.880 the wilderness, God was thought to accompany them within this tent. Moses was 1109 01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:08.279 the main spiritual leader for the Israelites during their journey, much like the Oikist 1110 01:41:08.479 --> 01:41:15.119 in Greek stories. The Oikist was also a religious leader representing the god Apollo 1111 01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:21.119 during their colonization missions. Hey, I'm just going to reply to humble painter 1112 01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:28.399 here. He says that I read that the laurel leaves represented truth that might 1113 01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:31.039 be a meeting a meaning, but when it's wrapped around the entire earth, 1114 01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:38.680 it looks what looks more like the clamping jaws of a giant fish. It 1115 01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:42.960 makes me think that what they're saying is that they are the They are encompassing 1116 01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:49.840 and ruling of all the earth, and that's simple being equated to Roman Uh. 1117 01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:54.319 I think that I think there's a there's something to look at there. 1118 01:41:54.680 --> 01:41:59.920 When the Greeks ventured into new territories, they believed they were also relocating their 1119 01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:05.319 gods. A sacred fire symbolized this move, which they used for religious rituals 1120 01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:12.319 during the journey. Apollo's famous sanctuary and Delphi often gave them guidance on where 1121 01:42:12.359 --> 01:42:16.600 to settle and build their new sanctuaries. In the Bible. Before entering their 1122 01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:23.520 desired land, the Israelites sent scouts to check it out. However, they 1123 01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:29.680 were disheartened by the challenges they'd face in conquering it. As a result, 1124 01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:35.680 they spent forty years wandering, during which the entire soldier generation died. For 1125 01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:42.159 Israelites. After their forty year journey, there was a renewed emphasis on the 1126 01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:46.000 laws, particularly in the Book of Deuteronomy. This highlighted how they should live 1127 01:42:46.159 --> 01:42:51.039 once they settled. All these guidelines were officially approved by the community and were 1128 01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:57.800 meant to be publicly displayed in their new homeland. Similarly, when Joshua took 1129 01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:01.399 the people across the Jordan, Qui set up an altar and inscribed these laws, 1130 01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:08.039 ensuring they were practiced. Like in the Bible, Greek colonization stories also 1131 01:43:08.199 --> 01:43:13.760 focused on establishing foundational laws for their new territories. The leader or oikist, 1132 01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:19.000 who was similar to Moses, set these laws. The oikist laid down rules 1133 01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:26.359 about political, religious, and military structures, the society's class system, land 1134 01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:30.920 distribution, and citizens' rights. Just as in the Biblical narrative, these laws 1135 01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:35.520 were approved by the community, usually with rituals and oaths. Often these guidelines 1136 01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:41.479 were inscribed on stone tablets for everyone to see. When the Israelites reached the 1137 01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:45.520 Promised Land, they were coming back to the original home of their ancestors Abraham 1138 01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:51.479 Isaac, So they say, so, they say, this might be a 1139 01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:56.159 good time to drop this in quick, because I wanted this to be emphasized. 1140 01:43:57.399 --> 01:44:00.760 From the book Priestcrassed Beyond Babylon. I quote another book called The Laughing 1141 01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:04.199 Jesus, and I'm going to read this quote once again. After the death 1142 01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:11.359 of Alexander in three twenty five BC, his general Polomy ruled Palestine from Egypt. 1143 01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:15.159 The next century and a half saw a momentous change in Palestine as Greek 1144 01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:23.680 technology and customs were introduced into the region. Coinage replaced barter, agriculture was 1145 01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:29.960 revolutionized by artificial irrigation, water wheels, the plow, the wine press, 1146 01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:32.560 and other similar implements that they did not have. They did not have. 1147 01:44:32.840 --> 01:44:38.359 Okay, they didn't have any of these luxuries, any of these innovations. 1148 01:44:39.279 --> 01:44:44.720 But they were a great nation. So now Jerusalem really did become a city 1149 01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:47.319 skilled in many crafts. And that was a quote, as one of the 1150 01:44:47.359 --> 01:44:53.119 Jewish writers of the time puts it. In this time and in this same 1151 01:44:53.199 --> 01:45:00.720 period there was an explosion of Jewish literature after they were tut right Greek for 1152 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:05.680 the first time in the history of this region. We have the beginnings of 1153 01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:14.239 a high culture capable of creating and sustaining a literate class for the first time. 1154 01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:20.520 From the beginning of the second century BC, Palestine produced many famous philosophers, 1155 01:45:20.600 --> 01:45:26.479 poets, satirists, and rhetoricians, some of whom even became friends and 1156 01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:34.119 advisors to influential Roman statesmen such as POMPEII, Brutus and Cicero. The Jews 1157 01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:40.720 had finally arrived on the world stage as a sophisticated people for the first time. 1158 01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:47.640 But ironically, they had only achieved this through an education that was thoroughly 1159 01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:54.720 Greek. Almost all the Jewish literature produced in this period is written in Greek. 1160 01:45:55.479 --> 01:46:00.800 The Jews wrote in Greek and thought in Greek. And when you understand 1161 01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:04.720 that there's two hundred and sixty seven thousand different definitions in over one million, 1162 01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:13.399 seven hundred thousand and unique words in ancient Greek to their eight thousand in quote 1163 01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:17.039 unquote ancient Hebrew, you understand why it means what is meant by they thought 1164 01:46:17.079 --> 01:46:23.520 in Greek because they expressed themselves in their language, their primary language, which 1165 01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:31.560 was Greek. So what came first the Hebrew Bible in Hebrew? Or was 1166 01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:40.439 it in Greek first? And this says the Jews wrote in Greek and thought 1167 01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:44.600 in Greek. And yet the Jews were never Greeks and never could be, 1168 01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:48.560 no matter how hard they aspired. The Greeks had divided the world into two 1169 01:46:49.279 --> 01:46:56.640 mutually exclusive categories, Greeks and barbaris how they talk, so they call them 1170 01:46:56.680 --> 01:47:02.159 barbarians. In response, the Jews divided the world into Jews and Gentiles one 1171 01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:06.520 upmanship, and produced a body of literature that proved, at least to their 1172 01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:11.479 own satisfaction, that the Jews were not only equal to the Greeks, they 1173 01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:17.680 were better. Heck, they taught them. Uh huh. Sure. But 1174 01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:26.560 what's terrible about that is the entire basis of the Bible, history, history 1175 01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:31.399 and air quotes here is dependent on whether or not you believe that they taught 1176 01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:38.960 the Greeks or that the Greeks taught them. Dick and Jacob. The story 1177 01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:44.840 reminds us of the return of the Heraclids in Greek tales. In both stories, 1178 01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:48.800 a divine command encouraged the takeover of the local people. Similarly, the 1179 01:47:48.920 --> 01:47:55.640 journey of Joshua and conquering part of the Promised Land matches Greek stories about the 1180 01:47:55.800 --> 01:48:00.239 founding of new colonies. In both the Bible and Greek tales, the deity 1181 01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:05.279 presents the land as a gift. The conquering colonizers believed they were not just 1182 01:48:05.399 --> 01:48:12.279 allowed, but obligated to take over. Of course, that's convenient. One 1183 01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:15.800 more thing here, we're gonna read it this part too. This is coming 1184 01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:21.359 from the priestcraft beyond Babylon. But it's a quote from the laughing Jesus. 1185 01:48:21.439 --> 01:48:26.479 Once again, it says the Jewish fantasy factory. That's the title of the 1186 01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:31.560 section. No sooner had the Jews assimilated their Greek education than they began to 1187 01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:39.399 give a novel meaning false account of how they came about it. They had 1188 01:48:39.479 --> 01:48:43.359 not learned from the Greeks, who just got finished teaching them. Right. 1189 01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:46.920 It was the other way around, of course. In two twenty BC, 1190 01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:55.800 the Jewish writer Hermippus recorded his opinion that Pythagoras, the first man in the 1191 01:48:55.840 --> 01:48:59.479 Greek world to be called a philosopher, had actually acquired all his wisdom from 1192 01:48:59.520 --> 01:49:05.680 the Jews. Aristobulus, writing in the middle of the second century BC, 1193 01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:08.960 remember these names. So when they pop up and you think, well, 1194 01:49:09.039 --> 01:49:11.840 that sounds Greek, he realized that's who this is, who they actually are. 1195 01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:15.840 Okay, it's not a it's not a it's not a Greek man. 1196 01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:19.720 Uh, what do you call it? Supporting the idea that the Jews came 1197 01:49:19.800 --> 01:49:25.319 first, it's not it's a Jew with a Greek name. Proposing that, 1198 01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:30.199 Aristobulus, writing in the middle of the second century, added that Plato had 1199 01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:40.039 borrowed his ideas from Moses. In the in the first century, Josephus claimed 1200 01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:45.000 that he that the wisest of the Greeks, including Plato, Pythagoras and Exaggerate 1201 01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:51.479 and Exagaris and the Stoics, had learned their conceptions of God from principles with 1202 01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:59.319 which Moses supplied them. Josephus is a door too. According to the Jewish 1203 01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:08.680 writer Eupolemists, however, the Greeks even owed their knowledge of the alphabet to 1204 01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:14.039 Moses. They didn't have a freaking mark Mark Barrett language, but that they 1205 01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:17.119 needed their alphabet from Moses. Yeah, he had taught it first to the 1206 01:50:17.239 --> 01:50:21.039 Jews, who then taught it to the Phoenicians, who in turn taught it 1207 01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:29.079 to the Greeks. Atripanus, another Jewish writer, tells us that Moses acquired 1208 01:50:29.119 --> 01:50:36.800 the name Mosaos from the Greeks because sorry mosaics from the Greeks, became the 1209 01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:44.039 teacher of Orpheus and conferred a whole host of benefits upon mankind, including the 1210 01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:49.119 invention of ships, mechanisms for stone construction, weaponry, hydraulic engines, implements 1211 01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:59.319 of warfare, and of course philosophy. In Egypt. Moses's achievements were even 1212 01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:03.600 more spectacular. He taught hieroglyphics to the Egyptian priests, divided the nation into 1213 01:51:03.720 --> 01:51:08.439 thirty six names, assigned to each a god it was to worship and named 1214 01:51:08.760 --> 01:51:14.039 Hermi, and was named Hermes because of his ability to interpret sacred writings. 1215 01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:17.640 During the Hellenistic period, there was no end to the Jews delight in rewriting 1216 01:51:17.760 --> 01:51:24.239 history and playing one upmanship with the Greeks, Egyptians and other powerful rivals. 1217 01:51:29.199 --> 01:51:31.279 Most of the time the native people. And why I say this, it's 1218 01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:38.000 not to pick on anybody, it's just more fuel for that fire that reminds 1219 01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:44.680 us that we have been taken over by a deceptive Yaoist Saturn cult and they've 1220 01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:49.520 taken all the worst elements of the past, which they call pagan too, 1221 01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:56.880 but they are using him anyway. The rituals, the drugs, the harming 1222 01:51:56.960 --> 01:52:00.840 of children, all incorporated into something that has been going on since the Canonite 1223 01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:06.960 times, which by the way, they are Canonites. They just re polished 1224 01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:14.640 themselves, gave themselves a false history and resold it repackaged. Were either defeated 1225 01:52:14.720 --> 01:52:19.199 and enslaved or forced to move. Sometimes the takeover was explained with a moral 1226 01:52:19.359 --> 01:52:26.920 reason adding it to the legend. The oikist or colony leader often became a 1227 01:52:27.079 --> 01:52:31.640 revered hero due to his military leadership, but starting a colony wasn't always smoothed. 1228 01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:39.239 The newcomers often faced challenges from locals, which sometimes made the Greeks rethink 1229 01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:44.159 or give up their plans, just like how the Greeks felt shame for not 1230 01:52:44.319 --> 01:52:49.279 taking over the lands given by their god Apollos oracle. The Israelites were also 1231 01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:55.840 criticized in the Book of Did you see that tephilin on his head? You 1232 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:58.119 can see it right here if you can see my point or not, But 1233 01:52:58.199 --> 01:53:02.159 it's puking through his little hood. There that is a symbol of Saturn with 1234 01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:09.760 a piece of a torost girl in it, apparently judges for not fully conquering 1235 01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:15.199 their promised land. The tradition of the Oikist often involved the yearly celebration that 1236 01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:20.079 remembered the founding of the colony under the Oikists' leadership. One of the most 1237 01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:27.800 famous such celebrations was the dorians Carnea festival, honoring the establishments of Sparta. 1238 01:53:28.319 --> 01:53:30.680 I thought I cut this part out. I guess I didn't. Therah and 1239 01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:36.880 Syene the Carnaa was initially a festival that celebrated farming, paying tribute to karnas 1240 01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:44.760 an old ram god. Later this god was associated with Apollo. Apollo Carneus 1241 01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:49.720 signifies Apollo as the guide of migrations, much like how a ram leads its 1242 01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:56.319 flock. Its particular aspect of Apollo is credited with guiding the Dorian movement to 1243 01:53:56.439 --> 01:54:02.920 Sparta and other colonization efforts. The nine day Carnea festival had various activities like 1244 01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:10.279 the sacrifice of a ram and a recreation of a military journey which includes dances 1245 01:54:10.439 --> 01:54:16.680 with weapons and parades with miniature ships. National Foundation Myths, Greeks and Jews. 1246 01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:24.520 In a discerningly pinned blog post, Neil Godfrey delves into the intriguing parallels 1247 01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:31.560 between Phrixus and Isaac. Such a comparison, he asserts, is indispensable. 1248 01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:39.960 When examining Abraham's narrative, one cannot sidestep the intertwined tells of Isaac or Jacob. 1249 01:54:41.119 --> 01:54:46.239 Abraham stands as the proverbial patriarch of the Jews, celebrated not only for 1250 01:54:46.439 --> 01:54:53.319 the inaugural covenant of circumcision, but also for his heart. Yeah thanks a 1251 01:54:53.359 --> 01:54:58.279 lot for that. There, Abe wrenched act of near sacrifice of his beloved 1252 01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:01.199 son Isaac. I hear voices in my head telling me to kill my child. 1253 01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:05.840 I better do it. Let's base three religions on me sounds great. 1254 01:55:06.520 --> 01:55:15.760 Godfrey's insights are underpinned by Philip Wagenbaum's seminal work Argonauts of the Desert. Through 1255 01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:27.039 rigorous contemplation, Godfree offers an astute interpretation of Wagenbaum's contentions, showcasing his commendable 1256 01:55:27.159 --> 01:55:33.760 grasp on the subject matter. Godfree expresses it this way. A myth must 1257 01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:40.319 always be analyzed in comparison to its variance within the same cultural area, where 1258 01:55:40.479 --> 01:55:47.039 contacts between populations are proven. Wagenbaum is analyzing the Bible narratives as myths, 1259 01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:55.680 though he concedes they may contain some historical elements, and comparing the accounts with 1260 01:55:55.840 --> 01:56:01.199 narratives and laws from Greek literature. While ancient Near Eastern literature offers many laws 1261 01:56:01.279 --> 01:56:06.119 similar to those in the Bible, he thinks the Greek literature has not been 1262 01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:12.560 explored in this context to its full potential. Phrixus and Isaac under the microscope, 1263 01:56:12.920 --> 01:56:17.359 parallelism between the Greek myth of Phrixus and the binding of Isaac indicates a 1264 01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:26.760 source derivative relationship. One A Thomas, king of Beotia, married Nephii, 1265 01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:31.319 a cloud goddess created in the image of hera by Zeus. Gee do we 1266 01:56:31.359 --> 01:56:36.359 get Nephelin from her? I don't know. Two A Thomas and Nephilie had 1267 01:56:36.479 --> 01:56:45.079 twin children, a son, Phrixus and a daughter Helli. Three Athamos afterwards 1268 01:56:45.199 --> 01:56:51.680 rece Helly as an Hellenistic right, dejected Nephii and married Eno. Four. 1269 01:56:53.600 --> 01:56:59.560 Eno hated her stepchildren Phrixus and Helly, so plotted to have them killed by 1270 01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:05.520 their own father. Number five. Eno bribed messagers who told King Athemis that 1271 01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:12.439 the oracle of Delphi, speaking for the god Apollo, required the sacrifice of 1272 01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:18.720 Phrixus on Mount Lafician in order to end a famine in Biotia. Number six. 1273 01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:27.039 Just as A Thamis was about to sacrifice his son Phrixus, Zeus or 1274 01:57:27.279 --> 01:57:33.600 Nephili in other versions sent a golden winged ram to rescue Phrixus and Helly by 1275 01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:40.039 flying away with them. Number seven. Helly fell off, hence the Hell's 1276 01:57:40.199 --> 01:57:46.960 pont Helly's see number eight. The ram brought Phrixus safely to Colchis, Georgia. 1277 01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:53.279 Number nine. In gratitude, Phrixus sacrificed to Zeus the golden Ram that 1278 01:57:53.479 --> 01:57:58.920 saved him and hung its golden fleece on an oak tree number ten. Now, 1279 01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:03.319 while it may seem quite inconsequential, probably the most important ingredient of this 1280 01:58:03.479 --> 01:58:08.920 myth is that it is the prolog of the Epic of the Argonauts who will 1281 01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:14.399 come to Culchis years later to bring the famous golden fleece back to Greece. 1282 01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:18.479 We can recognize the resemblance to the binding of Isaac in Genesis twenty two. 1283 01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:23.920 To test the faith of Abraham, God orders him to sacrifice his only beloved 1284 01:58:24.039 --> 01:58:29.119 son on Mount Moriah. Abraham submits to the command and binds his son. 1285 01:58:30.319 --> 01:58:34.760 At the last moment, God sends an angel and interrupts the sacrifice. Abraham 1286 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:40.960 sees a ram stuck in a bush and sacrifices that ram instead of his son. 1287 01:58:41.800 --> 01:58:45.399 But note the inversion of one small detail. In the Greek version, 1288 01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:49.800 the ram is killed first, then its fleece is hung in a tree, 1289 01:58:50.439 --> 01:58:57.279 whereas in the Biblical version the ram is first stuck in a bush and sacrificed 1290 01:58:57.319 --> 01:59:02.039 afterwards. This inversion of detail can lead us to wonder whether these stories could 1291 01:59:02.119 --> 01:59:06.840 both derive from a common source, one could derive from the other, or 1292 01:59:06.920 --> 01:59:13.359 that the resemblance is only due to coincidence. Therefore, we will pick up 1293 01:59:13.760 --> 01:59:17.279 this a little bit that's left here tomorrow and then we'll go into other topics 1294 01:59:18.279 --> 01:59:23.199 that are related of course. All right, so goodbye everybody. I know. 1295 01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:27.560 I think Speak Free video already departed because it's ten am now, but 1296 01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:30.199 hopefully Bill Gil catch it on the replay when I send over the file. 1297 01:59:31.600 --> 01:59:34.479 All right, that was the day. Come back on the at eleven am 1298 01:59:34.760 --> 01:59:40.800 and you will see eleven am Pacific. You will see doctor Peter Lidden probably 1299 01:59:41.840 --> 01:59:46.680 all right, and check out the description. How about the show? Thanks