Good morning everybody. We will be continuing Violinist in a hand Basket today.
I'm gonna start with some gnastic and format not a really good name for or
a channel, but he's he understands that gnostic is a what do you call
it? A derogatory term. I think you may have figured that out after
read or he named his play his channel, but at least he's under under
the awareness thereof So we're going to weigh a little bit that it's gonna be
a little bit of amin, but it's gonna talk about the syllabine sibiling cult,
and then we'll get back into Ellis and a hand Basket. The video
that I had uh clipped out from myth vision too. There's actually two.
There's one from about Abraham and went about Moses. We were still working on
the one about Moses. I had a bunch of files get corrupted because I
apparently I needed room on my hard drive. So I'm actually at the moment
creating a new video and there's about thirty eight minutes left, so providing it
doesn't screw up in the process of rendering that video, I had to do
it again this morning. I think I got up early. So once da
Vinci resolved is done with that, I'll have to find a place marker where
we had left off and then we can continue on with that. For now,
let me get all right, now we're on Brydion too, and Brydion
for those of you out there on Brydion, the live streams haven't been saving
after the fact, so I for the last week probably haven't been putting anything
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afterward. But today I said, what the heck? So if you want
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or find it on the podcasts or or even on my Patreon. All
right, so let's just get this started off and we will jump into some
gnostic informant. I might skip around a little bit because that one isn't something
that I clipped out and just to get the important stuff. I don't have
time to do all that stuff. And by the way, I am looking
for an assistant. I gotta find out whether or not I have to upgrade
stream yard. Good morning, Polka. If I have to upgrade stream Yard
in order to make that work, I might not do it. But if
I can get somebody in there with like admin privileges that can pull up things
when I want them to pull up, they would probably have to have my
video files too on their computer in order to do that. I'm not one
hundred percent sure how that works, and I don't know how I would transfer
those types of files. There's a lot of technical stuff that I need to
figure out before going forward with that. But if somebody wanted to be like
a VJ video jockey pulling up stuff during these streams, the I'd make it
so that I could focus more on the presentation unless on the dicking around back
and forth with the stream yard. All the cool people have one, have
an assistant. All right, let's see, let's do this. But it's
all right. Run around and please if you please, well listen, all
right in the bence you can well, it's all right, as long as
you land your hand. You can sit around and wait for the fall man,
waiting for someone to tell you everything, sit around and wonder what your
marbles b maybe do. Well, it's all all right, even if you
see your wrong will and all right, sometimes you got in the strong.
Well, it's fall all right, as long as you get someone to leave
you well, all all right. Every day it's just nare maybe somewhere down
the road ring you think of me A wonder where I am These be maybe
somewhere down the road when somebody plays at the end of the probably it's even
when who's comes to show, it's fall everyone from on them, But it's
fall all right, remember them over. But it's all right, going to
the end of the last. Don't have to be ashamed of the car I
draft. I'm just glad to be here, happy to feel that. It
don't matter if you're badass sat up said it's fat, well, it's all
all right. Even if you're old and gray, Well it's all right.
You still get something to say. Well, it's all right, remember delivingly
Welsh, fall right, just to continue to kill for this fall right right,
it around the freeze, weird it fall right, you deliver you please,
Well, it's all right, even if the so no shine, it's
all right, going to the end of the ride, all right. I
don't know if you catch that for those of you watching, but they had
a guitar in a rocking chair for Roy. Roy had already died at that
time. So there's a little picture of him and the chairs rocking with his
guitar and it's pretty cool, all right. So we have Christians and syllabus
Emmin Hillman, this is a let me make sure I grab it. Yeah,
So contact me if you want, if you're interested in an unpaid but
highly appreciated position, if you want to help uh when you have the ability
to come on and at the same time, I'm on, and let's see
if we can make it so that we can pull up stuff if I have
to send it all. I don't know how that's gonna work. But let
us see if I can get someone else to do the tech in the background
so I can just talk instead of fumbling around with all this stuff. I
don't know if it's even gonna work that way. We'll see, all right.
So do I like Neil? This guy? My dad's name is Neil,
but it's spelled differently. That's the informant. He irritates me a lot.
There's some things he doesn't quite understand about the world that are quite infuriating,
Like when you just talking about how noble and wonderful the Ukraine is against
the ultimate evil that was absolutely retardation on his part. So yeah, there's
things about Neil I don't appreciate at all. And whenever he tries to talk
about world politics and stuff like that, he sounds like a complete moron.
So there's that. I don't know if Neil is just a really ambitious,
really exciting like I don't know, like he knows some stuff, but I
don't think his h his grasp on on the world is really quite there yet.
So that being said, when I talk about the stuff that he can
read and memorize, then he's doing alright. So let's go ahead and look
at this real quick. And we're waiting. Let's see how much more time
you have. Thirty one minutes left on the rendering of that video, it
corrupted, so I had to star, had to start a little bit now,
and after that we'll have to find our place where we left off so
I can continue on with that. But in the meantime, we've got this.
The sibiling oracles are basically what we're talking about. This all this is
going to get really interesting for a lot of people because you're going to see
how it was all what they now could consider pagan It was all part of
the early Christian and early JUDAEI and things. They just try to pretend that
they were different, and it's uh, that's where that's where the money,
that's where the money is. Right there is to see that and realize it.
Hey, thanks for that great introduction, Neil. It is fantastic to
be here. And for those of you are sitting in the audience, I
was able to hear an outline of Neil's presentation here. It's good stuff.
Man, this is graduate level work, so you should be proud of your
work. Bra nice job. I appreciate that. Yeah. You know one
other thing I would like to say, speaking of graduate level work, Shouldelli
chechoh pre Scrap Beyond Babylon highly recommend. It looks like we have a connection
ere uh oh, we're losing. We're losing here barely a signal. I
wonder what that is. I'm just gonna give it a second because it's gonna
be really great if I Okay, looks like it's all right. Back to
it. Priestcraft Beyond Babylon. You can find the links in the description.
Check it out you want to a lot of what he talks about in one
of these books called the Oh What's it called it doesn't matter. One of
his videos, he goes through all the all the gods and goddesses of the
Babylonian and Sumerian cults, that's all covered in priestcraft beyond Babylon and uh,
yeah, there you go. So without further ado, we're gonna get into
what are these sibiling books because you might know Christians, A lot of Christians,
especially Orthodox Christians, they know that the Christian sibyling oracles, they know
what these are. They consult them. They talk about aren't Gog and Magogue
and Armageddon? And those are the prophecies from their Christian sibylists. And they
still consult them today and read them and talk about how Mohammed as the Baphomet
and these are all Christian ideas that are still floating around there. But how
many of them know that before Christianity was even on the right anyone's radar,
sibiling books were consulted by Roman religion. Religion called this as well, and
they came out of that tradition. There was there were sybols all over the
empire, but you had these sibiling books that were guarded by the vessel virgins
and they would be, they would they would use them, and it was
sort of propaganda, prophecy, all types of different They would consult these books,
and for example, in two two a four BCE, I could be
off that a couple of years, say around two hundred b C. The
Romans were at war against the Macedonians and the Carthaginians as well. They were
at war on different fronts, and one of their prophecies was to go and
get Magna Mater from Phrygia. This is a famous god that people would travel
from all over the world to go and the great mother, Magna Mater.
Nicodemus and I talk about this a lot, and how she's been associated with
Airis eris not Aris, like the heiress of a But that is funny that
it's phonetically the same, right Airis and the children of Discord, the fourteen
children of Discord, fourteen that number again, And also how they equate her
to some equate her to Ashira or Nana and also to Lilith, which that's
where it gets a little murky. And that's what I'm a little curious about
now, is if there is an actual defining line there that separates them or
if there's something that is legitimate about that assumption that they're talking about the same
deity. I didn't play like to go and visit and give offerings to the
Romans, said we need to have that in Rome. The sibiling books is
what told them to go do that, according to Livy, according to others,
and this was a common thing that they would consult these books. The
books would tell them go import to God from a different land, bring it
to Rome. And so that's what I want to really show, the progression
over time from the sibyl. Any thoughts on that so far, I think
you're dealing with Egeria right off the bat. So people should know that back
in Roman history, when there were still kings and Rome was just a city
with huts at this time, there was a sibyl called Egeria, and she
transmitted to Numa. To Numa, who is a sabine, right, she
transmitted to him what would become the religion of Rome, right and supposedly an
outline of what was going to happen throughout their history, who they would fight,
when they would fight, them, very specific stuff. And she was
a nimph. They called her a nimph. So right off the bat.
It makes me wonder when you're given too much detail about your future, do
you manifest it even if it's against your will and you're trying to avoid it,
like a like a fable of Shakespeare where you know your fate, you've
talked, you've consulted the oracle, you try your very best to take precautions
to avoid that fate, and yet those precautions that you take actually end up
causing it, right, Like that became your history because of your actions,
not because an oracle was able to say anything to make us make you able
to change it, you know, like with an Oedipus is a good example.
And what the hell just said? And that's where I'm coming in today
is we're going to talk about that nymph and who that nymph is and you're
going to be surprised. But yeah, Neil, I think you're on a
Oh I love it, love the Roman flavor. Keep going, bro.
So you know the stibiling books from the I'm using as a source two different
sources. James Charlesworth has a pseudo Pigafu Old Testament text and included in here
is all the cibiling texts that they found from the Jewish sources, Jewish and
Christian sources, and so and I also have the Christian the straight up Christian
sibyling text that are from the sixth and fifth, fourth, fifth and sixth
centuries after the Christian Christians basically take over the civil but the oldest the second
going back to the second century BCE before like when it's when, when it's
just you can just say BC, there's no reason to say common era Bagan
and Jewish people using these civil text and consulting them, you have this prophecy
of you know, war and Rome, like you were mentioning and like,
let me just read that a little bit here, oracle against Rome. You
will be among evil mortals, suffering evils, but you will remain utterly desolate
for all ages. Yet it will exist, but it will remain utterly desolate,
forever, despising your soil because you, just because you desired sorcery with
you are found adulteries and illicit intercourse with boys, effeminate and unjust, evil
city, ill faded above all, a last city of the Latin land,
unclean in all things, maynad rejoicing in vipers as a widow. You will
sorry you will sit by the banks, and the river Tiber will weep for
you. It's consort. Have a murderous heart and inpious spirit. Did you
not know what God can do what he devises? But you said, I
am alone and no one will ravage me. But now God who is forever,
will destroy you and all your people, and there will no longer be
any sign of you in that land as there was formerly when the Great God
found your honors. Remain alone, lawless one, mingled with burning fire,
and habit the lawless, the lawless nether region of Hades. A lot of
the language that's being thrown around there, like here's the oracle against Rome.
You will be among mortals, like cosmic destruction. But you also have in
these texts or a lot of what you would call pagan terminology. You know,
the name is by the earth Shaker. Anyone who heard who hears that
term earth shaker, that's Poseidon. There's only one person who has that title
earth shaker. Beside it, and it even says in the top from the
Erythrean sybyl there will be also be immediately assigned for the fertile Phrygia. When
the abominaal race of Raya. They're there's no, they're not like keeping the
keep these gods out of the tax. No, they're not real gods.
No, No, they're like, no, that's these are the race.
This is the race of Raya. This is the people who worship Kayui from
Phrygia, and they're acknowledging that in these texts. I think it's fantastic.
I think it's fantastic. What's hard, you know, it's hard to tell
the difference, Neil, It's hard to tell the difference between that Raya as
a Christian goddess and as a Pagan goddess. Those terms run together. Linguistically,
they run together. This is brilliant, brother, Keep going, keep
going. I'm sorry to interrupt. No, you're fine. That was That
was a good point. And there's a lot of text. There's a lot
of talk about ages. There's a new age coming. Even Suetonius, I'm
sorry. Plutarch in his Life of Solo was talking about how learned Etruscans declare
that importance signified the advent of a new age and a new cosmic order.
They said that there are eight ages altogether, each with different customs and ways
of life, and that the God has assigned each of these ages a definitive
number of years, which is accomplished by the revolution of the great year.
Whenever one great year ends, another begins. They said, a remarkable portant
appears either on earth or in the sky, to make it clear to those
who have studied and looked into such matters, that men have a different kind
and modes of different life. So this is a thing like, this is
an understood thing universal throughout all these religions, that there's these ages, different
ages coming up. And the sibiling books really go through these ages, and
they go through the times of Caesar, they go through the times of you
know, there's there's even they even have Romulus and Remus in here, and
we pull that up real quick. The one that has Romulus and Remus.
Don't forget the sibil is the daughter of Noah, right, yeah, explain
that real quick, because this is huge, because they're okay, yeah,
go ahead, explain that real quick. Yeah. She is the one who,
through the line of Dukalian, preserves that righteousness, that place, that
voice, and so she presents herself and the oracles, especially the sibling oracles,
the early ones three and five in my opinion, or the are the
most classical. Neil's talking about a transition from purely classical to this kind of
Judeo Christian approach, and those early ones three and five, those are to
me are the strongest, and they will still contain references that are cross used
by the Christians. Remember, people, the Christians were first called by the
Pagans who thought they were a right They said they were sybilice states. They
were Sibylists, right, they were Sibylists. Yeah, and now that's that's
that's the thing is when Julian the Apostle was the emperor, they didn't That's
what Julian Aposta calls them. He just calls them sibylists. Kelsi's too.
Kelsis is saying, yeah, their religion is basically the sibyl it's based.
They're just you know, they're sibilists. He kind of kind of calls him
a degradation of it though. Kelsa's is like, they're degradating the secret rights
of the sibyl and he makes it clear that it's not the sibyl, it's
a degradation of the sibyl, which I happen to agree with they're oracle mongers.
They're oracle mongers. Now they're trying to use the oracles for their own
benefit. He says, yeah. And here almost like there's a pure art
and there's a there's a tainted form of it, and the Christianity was tainting
that pure art in the in the minds of the of the of the people
who lived the pagan line. Now this is interesting because one of the earlier
versions, right, one of the earliest versions of it, we have this
outline where it's going through all the different ages. Talks about how Cyrus will
rise up, talks about how and I can you can, Like I said,
if you want to, I'm not gonna go. I'm not gonna be
able to show all of them because it's gonna take hours. You can find
it all in here. Charles with this this is this is literally a screenshot
of this book, but it starts off with Cyrus Cyrus, Oh no,
I'm sorry, goes back even farther than that, I'm dumb. Talks about
how the Tower of Babel will be built and then it will be everyone will
be spread out across the earth. Talks about Egypt, the Kingdom of Egypt,
will rise and be a great kingdom. The Kingdom of Babylon will come
after that and be a great kingdom, and it goes through all these What
does it tell you to do and show you is how they're putting together their
later books right and what they're following as far as their blueprint, the details
that we don't see. If you're just looking at revelations as to what's going
to happen and how and how, you can tell it's being manipulated by man,
by people by the Yaoist cult that is actually the cult of Saturn and
what we're seeing throughout the world right now happening. You'll get more of the
details and understand why there's more of these references to these symbols in these cult
figures of the past. If you have the sibling oracles to go with,
to go along with the revelations, because you know, this is something that's
being manipulated and artificially produced so that people who are of faith will believe that
it's coming from God and not from Man itself. And that's where the big
mistake is, because they're following people over the edge of the cliff, a
bunch of lemmings, these different ages, and then it says, which apparently
don't actually really do that. I think that was a lie about Lemmings that
they actually like killed these animals for a video documentary and it wasn't even how
they live, it's not really what they do. And then it starts getting
into Alexander the Great will came conquer the East, and then after Alexander the
Great Rome and it then it brings you to Romulus and Remus, like wait
a minute, Romulus and Remus see and so there's no there's no borders between
religions in this time. There's no like, oh, we're we're over here
in Christian Land and we're not allowed to talk about Romulus at Reamis or the
Trojan War. No, they believe this stuff. The Trojan War. Look
at it says right here now, you wretched Phrygia, Do I be well
piteously, for on you will come captivity from Greece, which subdues horses and
terrible war. One of these will be a mighty warrior, will be king
for the sake of his brother. He will perform most evil deeds those they
will destroy famous walls of Troy of the Phrygians. When the son of Kronos
for twice five revolving years, fulfills the murderous deeds of war. A great
man from Zeus king will have the name, So there is no there's no
separation from So then I have to ask, are these revelations after the fact,
Are these like what they call prophecy, after the fact or is it
something that predated it. That would be my first question, because if it's
very accurate, my first suspicion would be that it's not just some lorical talking
about it. It's because they wrote it after it happened. That happens a
lot, especially with the Old and New Right, the Old and New Testament,
Homer in Hesiod. There's no separation the text, and you can almost
argue that the Old Testament is a euhemerization of these texts where these they're taking
these these daemons and lower gods, and part of them is making them people
basically. And you mentioned Noah, so one of the sibling texts right here
says that Saturn represents Noah. Or also look up Attrahassis or buy my book,
because I talk about the original Noah from the inuma Elish, which is
the Babylonian Genesis story the Sons of Noah, maybe Saturn, Titan Yapitus.
The flood is described forty days. This is with the gentile tradition in the
rain forty days talking about do Collon's flood. This is from Hesse. So
I also want to highlight something because they're talking about Phrygia, and they're talking
about it in a derogatory sense sometimes like Frisians Phrygia, Scythians, Goths,
Germanic people, lots of different sub sects in between. Right, those who
were favoring the marketplace to be pirates, to be lay dace and do human
trafficking, and who were being taught or corrupted by the magi or those who
you know, conduct the dark arts, they weren't. They were their own
group of people that were no longer you know, welcome in places like when
we talk about the Orlanda book. The Orlanda book describes the difference between them
and how you know, you have you have Praya, you have Leda,
and you have Finda's children. Right, so there's some overlap here, but
just say that, you know, when they say frigid, don't think,
oh, these guys are contradicting the Scythian frizzy. Another's because there's more than
one group of people, just like everything else, and some of them were
lost. According to the other ones who said, this is not how you
conduct life. You know, it's a it's a matriarchical society. Family,
you know, this is all. You know, we cheat everybody like family,
we're fair and honest, this and that. And then the other ones
who would like faver the marketplace, the bandits on the road, right,
the merchants and thieves, the cutthroats. There was a whole separate group that
went off and we're jerking around with the magic and getting into some weird stuff
like the like the burning purple. And then it says the Aramenians are derived
from the Phrygians and spoke the same language, comprehended it great as old Phrygia.
This is where Armenians, he says, Aramenians. It's Armenians. The
arc landed supposedly, right, So they're all it's all, this is all
one thing. This is not like there's no separation, there's no like borders
between these religions and it but that is interesting to say that the Armenians were
derived from the Phrygians and spoke the same language. So for some reason in
older writings, the letter F is a lot of times in place of the
letter S. So once you understand that, you can read this a little
bit better. So f is for f and f iss for s. So
it says fpoke for spoke fame, which spells fame, but it's actually in
the context it's same, right. So the saddern things interesting because you also
have Usibius later on talking about how Chronos. He says, right here,
Chronos, the Phoenicians call Elus, who was a king of the country,
and subsequently, like the allusion mysteries, Elus, right after his decree was
deified as the star Saturn, had a nymph of that country named Annobrett and
only begotten son, whom they on this accout called yeah dude, the only
begotten yeah dude being so called among the Phoenicians. And he's citing Sanko Nathan
for this, an old Phoenician priest, as you see in the second paragraph,
and his translation of Sancho Nathan about the Phoenician alphabet, says concerning the
reptiles and venomous beasts will contribute no service to mankind. So right away we're
seeing this imagery of serpents being evil and wicked, right whereas before that the
serpent was a symbol of power, and now wisdom is what it was.
But it says, I want to read this part to you because this is
kind of interesting. In this translation to the Sanctonian about the Phoenician, Alpavet
says concerning the reptiles and venomous beast, which contribute to no good service to
mankind, but work death and destruction to any in whom they inject their incurable
and fatal poison. This also he describes saying word for word as follows,
and that it goes into some more stuff. But that what what Neil is
making mistake of here is that they always revered and feared the snake. But
they, through their magic and their pharmacaea, their their their medicine, their
drugs, started manipulating and playing around with it. Because you know, when
you have slaves and captives, which again when you're talking about Frisians, they
didn't keep cactus. They either killed you or they make it made them uhde
made hospitable with those who they conquered. So again that would be another one
of those practices that the core group of the Frisians at least would not have
been partaking in, and you read about that all throughout the Orlando book.
But those who do that are also the same type that would trade and sell
those people. And that's where you get those those lays stays in the in
the the pirates on the the Berbers, right, the pirates on the on
the on the sea. I know, Berbers not the right word because it's
usually directed towards a different group of people, but you get it. The
reason why they call them that in the first place because barbarians, because they
all their languages sound like barbar bar bar That's that's why. That's why they
were called that by the by the Greeks. And they're like they said,
their language is inferior and they sound like a bunch of Neanderthals basically. So
this whole thing about the the serpent has multiple But what they're saying is it's
it's it's about who's that applying it and what they're using it for. And
there are those who wish death upon you, so therefore they're going to poison
their arrows with the venom and things like that. That will bring only death
and destruction, right, college and divinity? Yeah, you notice, you
notice that that serpent is right in there in that cult. Right. They
can't they can't be using the drugs and not make that a part of all
the imagery. Right. I love this The nature then of the dragon and
of the serpents. Tapus himself regarded as divine, and so again after him
did the Phoenicians and Egyptians, For this animal was declared to be by him
be all reptiles, most full of breath and fiery, in consequence of which
it also exerts an unsurpable swiftness by means of its breath, without feet or
in hands or any other of the external members which other animals make by their
movements. It also exhibits forms of various shapes, and in progress makes spiral
leaps as swift as it chooses. And so, I just I don't know
this is this, There's so much going on here. There's so m's like
cultic language and symbolism being thrown around here. He then says that in the
next next page over he says the mysteries of oh He says the phallus derived
as a symbol of generation to those who are being initiated the in into the
adult adulterous art, and they pay a piece of money to her as lovers
to a harlot. The mysteries of Dio, and the armorous embraces of Zeus
with Demeter his mother, and the wrath of I know not what to call
her now his mother or wife demoter on account which wrath they say she was
called Brimo. The supplications of Zeus, and the drink of gall, the
plucking out of the victim's heart, and the unspeakable deeds. These things the
Phrygian celebrate in honor of Addis and Kaibali and the cory Bantis. Wait a
minute, Wait a minute, just for the benefit of the creeps in the
audience like me, what are they doing in this riot? They're drinking the
gall. Okay, I've seen the gall of the echidnap these are that's the
specific drug. So they're drinking the gall and plucking out the victim's heart.
Wait where do we get to? Where do we get the heart in here?
And what does this have to do with that breath of fire? Right?
This is all related, people, That breadth of fires all related.
That's why people went to see Madia because she could do it through the serpent,
right, So okay, fantastic, And it's all for the celebration of
Adis and Sibley. You saw that, Neil. Now, we can't deny
it. We can't deny that that Sibilly and Adas are those is you know,
the heart And notice when the Sibil says, go get and bring Civilly
here, right, Yes, that's the whole point I was gonna say,
is the Sibiling books are the are the actual books that told her to go
get her and bring her to room? Isn't that fascinating? You can't you
can't, you can't deny that's I mean that like and you'll see I'm gonna
show you because there's the later Sybilists are trying to like trying to I don't
know how. It's like they're ashamed of their past because there's there's a Sibiling.
There's a text I'm going to show later on where the writers saying just
ignore all the pagan sibling texts. Those are all there are all fables.
Who cares about those? Like what you're just gonna throw that out there?
It's like but anyways, well, I'm gonna build up to that, because
I really want to show this. He says that they also have made up
a story that Zeus, having torn off parts of a ram, brought and
threw them into the lap of Dio, paying a fraudulent penalty for his violence,
as though he had been parts of himself. The watchwords of this initiation,
if set before you merely for amusement, well, I know, stir
your laughter, although you may not be willing to laugh because of the exposures.
I ate out of the drum. This is the secret. This is
what you say when you get initiated. I ate, and Clement of Alexandria
writes about this too. I ate out of the drum and drank out of
the symbol. I danced the kiro kiro kiro paria. Is that what it
says? Yeah, I slipped into the bridal chamber? Are not these watchwords
in outrage? Are not the mysteries of farce? But what if I shall
add the rest of the story. Demeter has child and her and her daughter
grows up again. This Zeus, who begat her, seduces his own daughter
Phara Fata after her mother do forgetting his former crime he approaches her in the
form of a serpent. It has thus proved who he was. According to
the Sabazian mysteries. The sign for this who are initiated the god gliding over
the breast, and this is a serpent drawn over the breast of those who
are initiated, a proof of the incontents incontinence of Zeus. Parafada also gives
birth to a son in the form of a bull. So you have this
this cultic imagery that they're thrown out there of these pagan rites. Right that
that whole God in the breast thing is huge nail because that's how they identified
people who are following the orphic mystery was through that symbol. And people have
argued. I've heard classicists argue about what exactly that means. What is the
God in the breast? Right? Was it some kind of mark? Was
it some kind of indication? Some kind I don't know. They flash hand
signals right when you that's what the classes are trying to figure out. When
you look at the drugs that are being used and how they're being used,
the serpent in the breast makes a lot more sense. It's going to be
those people whose eyes have been opened and they now see via that serpent vision,
that reality via the communion. So yeah, and I'm going to show
you how Mary, oh surprised. I'm going to show you how Mary does
it that exact thing. Right. They're gorgeous texts, by the way,
guys, these are gorgeous texts. You can't get I love it because it
shows you what there's that competing ideologies of religion happening in these times. And
then he says, this is the lesson what he this is the last thing
he says about this. He says, these are the secret mysteries of the
Athenian These are the things that Orpheus records. By the way, there's Christian
orphic text in this time where they're claiming Orpheus, and Orpheus is talking about
he actually in one of the texts, I wish I had it with me.
I can show it to people later where the god's name of the father
God is Zeus. Jesus is like the son of Zeus in this passage.
Anyways, these are the things that Orpheus records. But I will set before
you the very words of Orpheus that you may have the master of mysteries himself
as a witness of the shamelessness. She spake and quick her flowing robes withdrawn
showed all the secret beauty of her form. The child yachis laughing, stretched
his hand to touch her tender breast, and Babo smiled, and too the
goddess smiled with cheerful thought. For some reason, this is a really important
passage, and you see it all. It's excited by so many writers in
the ancient world. And took the shining bowl which held the draw There is
also a watchword of the Elusinian mysteries. I already said this. I fasted,
I drank the drought I took from the chest I finished. You know,
obviously worthy are worthy? Rather are the mysteries of Nicks and of torchlight,
and the great hearted or rather weak minded people of the arrest that I
and also the Greeks, men of whom remain after Uh. I can't see
that last part on my screen right now, but uh, after death,
things that they took little for sous is like really getting into this stuff.
And he's trying to what he's trying to do here is he's trying to say
that all these people who are looking for this divine child, this divine soater
child. We found him. Guys, stop looking. He's here is Jesus.
He's trying to say that all these pagan mysteries that are all looking for
this one thing are all pointed to Jesus. That's the whole point of this
book. It's called it's called the Preparation for the Gospel. And then he's
basically saying, like, you know, all the stuff that Plato wrote about,
all the stuff the Pythagorasts wrote about, they're just looking for Christian.
Christianity's the answer to all this stuff. That's what he's trying. That's what
he's trying to argue in here. But I just find it's fascinating. They
have to they have to go through the the old ways to get to this.
You know what I'm saying. I totally know what he's saying. There
was some dirty stuff and then third to last and the very last one you
put up there. Yeah, yeah, bring that up again if you can,
now, because there's something which one just the last one you put up
there, the last the last Yeah, there you go. Look at this,
she spake and quicker flowing robes with drawn. You said this one is
super important. It is. It's all over the place. Yeah, and
it's hugely in a cult symbol. Right, they talk about this passage for
its cult symbol. Right, And what is this doing? Balbo is exposing
herself and quick her flowing robes withdrawn. She's showing the child her secret Beauty's
showing the child her secret beauty. And that child is eachos that yahas is
what you are when you are in the right. Euripides shows us this,
right, technically it's a shout yah oh right, and just just to highlight
how important this is. Yeah, oh, let's that sound like? Yeah,
just to show you that when archaeologists are digging all over Greece, especially
in Athens, they find these these these idols of women exposing themselves. That's
babo. So this was a so just sort of like how you have with
priapus, like the charms. Basically they would hold they would have these in
front of their houses, you know, dick charms. There's a power to
that exposure. Right. And notice, and this part of the mystery is
watch what happens with the kid? Can we get that tex again new?
Yeah? Yeah, to touch you know, So the kid extends his hands
touch her breasts, right, and Bibo smiled. Then to the goddess smile
with cheerful thought. That goddess that they're making smile is Demeter, who is
returning back to a happy place from her from the abduction of her daughter.
Right, she's looking for the abduction, looking for her daughter. Right then
they took the shining bowl which held the draft. Remember, the only thing
that she's consuming at the time, Demeter is that opium. Right, she's
drinking that opium. The text specifically say that, So this is a very
practical, right, Right, that has to do with the child and the
exposure that brings the the new age. Right then there's a new ruler in
the underworld. Right, she's a queen. It's the only reason Demeter doesn't
walk away from everything, right is because that idiot who witnessed it said,
you know, she's a great queen. Anyway, that wonderful passage, Neil.
They thought that was hugely important in antiquity. Oh yeah, this was
like a this was a super important ritual from in Athens. And by the
way, you notice how there is no there's no epistle to the Athenians.
Christian Athens was holding steadfast to their rights. As the rest of the Greek
world was converting the Christianity, the Athenians were the last ones to stay like
where you know, it's just interesting how that is. Yeah, and it's
interesting to read to watch the history of the Romans succumbed to Christianity. That
that to me is amazing. It's sad. And so whenever a modern Christian
tells you everything in our society is built, No, no, you guys
trashed another society. Well this this was actually written about by one of the
symbols that said that Rome was going to fall because of this. And in
response to that, late like centuries later, somebody was commenting on that,
and I have the text here. It's from another Let's see where is it?
He says, woe is me? Sibiling oracles talk about the fall of
Rome. I shall see the day of which the unforfortunate to the oh Rome
most to all Italy. The soldiers imagine with anger him who ascends the Trojan
chariot who came from Asia talking about Aeneas. You know what I mean.
He is all their references to the Trojan War and how you know, Rome
is basically this founding city founded by Aeneas, and then on the bottom the
person writes the Sybil like the other poets, supposes the law that day that
Rome fell, but none can think that will be alive. Then therefore such
a fiction of former sibyls ought to not be objected against their oracles. The
Trojan Chariot like, notice how he's he's ignored. He's talking shit about the
former Sybyls because they're because of their because it's pagan, you know what I
mean. He's like, just ignore it, Just ignore the Sibyls from the
previous ages. There's a bunch of pagans. They don't know what they're talking
about. But I wanted to set this up for this because after Romulusten remiss,
we get these oracles against Rome and then start talking about Nero. See
which one do I got? I got a bunch of these different neurotexts.
Let's see. Let'll start this one. I don't know which one's in order
against an oracle against the gulls. Then there's an oracle against Ethiopians. Then
it says the return of Nero. If you guys hear something weird, I'm
gonna have to try to just test that video that just finished rendering to make
sure that it's uh not corrupted. And uh so if you hear anything doubling
over, I'll just pause it quickly. Just I just had to verify that's
gonna play that. So all you too, Corinth bewailed the mournful distry auction
within you. For when three sister fates spinning with twisted threads. By the
way, that's kind of a pagan thing, sister fates right, totally,
Yeah, beyond the bank of the is. You don't hear that in church
that are talking about the sister fates, Like they're not talking about that.
This is old terminology being used by Christians anyways. Uh who formally cut off
the rock with ductyle bronze, he will destroy and ravage your land. Also
as his decreed to him, God gave strength to perform things like no previous
king, one of all the kings. For first of all, cutting off
the roots from the three heads mightily will blow. He will give them to
others to eat, so they will eat the flesh of the parents of the
impious king. For the murder and terrors are in store for all men because
of the great city and righteous people, which is preserved throughout everything which Providence
held in special place. And then it says, let's see where to go.
This is also about Nero in the same book, The Career of Nero,
in his flight to the East, the poets will bewail thrice wretched Greece.
When a great king of Rome riched Greece. Huh, a godlike man
from Italy will cut the ridge of the isthmus him, They say, Zeus
himself begot lady Hera playing at theatricals with honey sweet songs rendered melodious voice.
He will destroy many men and his wretched mother. He will flee from Babylon,
a terrible and shameless prince whom all mortals and noble men despise, for
he destroyed many men and laid hands on the wound. He sinned against spouses,
and was sprung from abominable people. See a lot of people Christians not
like Rome. By the way, they did not like Rome. Call him
dominable people. He will come to the mid to the meetes, the means
and the kings of the person who were the Christians back then, right,
just another Judean fisade. Right, Persians, those whom he first desired to
whom he gave glory lurking with these. By the way, it was well
known that Nero was well connected with the Persian Satraps. He had a lot
of allies over there. That's why they were so afraid of him fleeing from
Rome and going to the east to set up a new army and come back.
This was what they thought. This was actually gonna happen. So it
says he sees the divinely built temple talking about Jerusalem, and burned the citizens
and people who went into it, men whom I rightly praised for on his
appearance, the whole creation was shaken, and kings perished, and those in
whom sovereignty remained destroyed. A great city and righteous people. Notice how Zeus
and Hera are in here, like it's no big deal. Zeus and Hera.
Well, imagine a Christian. Imagine going to church today, I don't
care what your nomination is. Imagine Baptists, whatever, Catholic. Imagine that
the pastor was like, I wonder what Zeus thinks about all this. Oh,
you know, let's ask Hero what she thinks about this. This doesn't
happen anymore. Those are they don't exist the way religion is now, those
these gods are there. They're fables, their fiction, their their myths.
They don't exist. But in this time period these gods existed still. They
were Damon's. Some even thought Zeus was yeah way, some thought he was
Saturn. There's different ideas floating around there. Wouldn't that be the same thing?
Like I mentioned how Soodie says the Phoenicians call l Saturn, and I
thought it was and so and not. Well, yeah, Isis also says
our father is Saturn, which is interesting A little little point on that.
There's another sibling text. I'm trying to find where it is. It's in
here somewhere. Where are they laugh They're basically making fun of Bacchus. Let's
see, is this the one? No, all right, we're gonna We're
gonna transition over. We might come back to this later when I have a
chance to edit and get to the meat of these videos. I have a
whole bunch of other things planned, including something that you'll see that will hopefully
be laughable in some respects and sad in others. But let me see if
I can even just show you real quick what I'm talking about. In case
you want to jump ahead of the game and take a look at it yourself.
It's good. Yes, I'm just gonna show you this real quick.
On my it's in my history here it was mm hmm. Well, there's
a there's a video from Danny Danny Jones where he's talking with Pertase. I
don't see it yet. It's not this one. He's talking with a guy
who is a Christian apologist, he's actually a Mormon, and he is going
on and on about the he's trying he's trying to he's trying to fix what
Ammon had said prior prior to and being there, and he does a miserable
job of it, like so bad that it makes the whole argument even worse
than it was before. So we will get to that. I don't know
why it wasn't my history until I've wanted to look for it now was not
there, but I forgot the name of the guy. I think it's like
Dan McLellan or something like that. And he was on Danny Jones talking afterward,
and he's kind of trying to do a rebuttal of him, and and
again, m it's not the be all end all of anything, but his
the points that he does make, some are valid, so it's worth listening
to the rest of the stuff that goes along with him, and you can
take or leave depending on your your preferences there. But it's, uh,
it's a little bit on the odd side, but it's the I mean,
if the Greek says what it says and they were trying to deny it or
change, this is what he's what what McClellan I think his name is h
was trying to do is just oh, it's the context. Like words mean
something, words means something different. If a Christian says it in the Bible,
it doesn't have the same definition anymore. It's basically what his argument was
the whole time, and it's it was such a bad argument. It made
it made the rest of you know, anyone else to defend. It made
them sound even worse like he did. Had the exact opposite effect of what
he was trying to do. Plus he's a Mormon, right, So I'm
not saying that's you know, whatever, but it's you know, Mormon has
a really big SRA problem, Satanic ritual abuse problem. They hide people,
they protect them, they do all kinds of strange things and they're really guilty
of a lot of the stuff that we hear about with the elites, and
a lot of the military intelligence comes out of them too, So something to
think about. Let me get to the video now, so I'm gonna have
to try to find where we left off. So it's gonna be a second.
This is again, it wouldn't have happened if it was a video didn't
get corupted. I would have already had it ready to go, but it
wouldn't play back for me, So that kind of sucked a lot. It's
gonna start playing on its own as soon as I put it up, That's
what it does, all right. So without being able to see a preview
beforehand, I have to find out where we were. Isn't that fun?
So the picture looks like that, it's a cow. I gotta find that
picture of the cow and then start playing from there. That's just gonna be
awesome. Yeah, wait, show me the cow, Show me the cow.
Big cows, no lammies, and stop stop at a whammie. Damn
it. This doesn't seem like it's the full video at all, not even
close. Hopefully I'm wrong, Yeah, probably wrong. This is a lame
I happen to find this, like one little picture is like so stupid.
It's like the worst thing you'd have to do. Let me, let me
just go and take a look one more time. I haven't paused on my
old video that I had done, but now I gotta kind of oh oh
wait, han wait where we're at? Oh so close? So that picture
right there? If I find that one, we might be good. All
right, all right, let's see. I think I was close to it.
This is stupid. Mm hmm. You know, I think we're gonna
do. I think we're just gonna play it. If we're overlapping, We're
overlapping. It is what it is. We went through that, man,
oh man, to have an assistant, to have an assistant. Uh zerk,
see we heard about that. I heard about that. I think we
might be getting closer. Yeah, let's start that off with this. Let'll
just go forward, resulting in the loss of their chance to return home.
This rebellion is notably executed while Odysseus is resting, a circumstance that I recur
in Thrinacia. In another foreshadowing instance, Eurylicus tries to discourage the crew from
accompanying Odysseus back to Cerce, even though he's unsuccessful. Here, Eurylicus positions
himself as a representative of descent, embodying the voice of those who will later
rebel in Thronachia. The next significant act of insubordination happens as the crew lands
on Thrinacia, drawing them closer to Helios's sacred cattle. Both Thysius and Circe
had cautioned Odysseus, I know we've got past this because we talked about the
sacred cattle. Ah, there's the picture right there, all right, cool,
particularly their fear of impending starvation. This mirrors Eurylicus's bleak perspective, where
he states that perishing from hunger is the worst kind of death. Subsequent to
these events, when the Israelites set up camp at Rephidim and are unable to
find water, a fresh conflict e merges between them and Moses concerning their thirst.
Moses perceives their defiance against him as tantamount to rebelling against God, posing
the question why do you dispute with me? Why do you challenge the Lord?
In several narratives, the absence of a leader plays a pivotal role in
the ensuing insurrection. This is evident in the tell, where unable to depart
from Thurnakia for a span of thirty days, Odysseus isolates himself from his crew
to seek divine intervention. Such a circumstance offers an opportune moment for the crew
to defy his instructions, seeking to further their own interests. However, it
would be incorrect to suggest that Odysseus bears the blame for their mutiny, as
some scholars occasionally assert. This perspective seemingly overlooks Zeus's fundamental proclamation on the liability
of mortals. Additionally, it fails to recognize the thematic likenesses the Odyssey draws
between the crew and the suitors, especially their engagement in rash deeds pinpointed by
Zeus. Both entities exhibit a thematic lack of restraint, which will be further
elaborated upon. Conversely, the absence of Odysseus provides insights into his character and
how he stands apart from his crew. Modern readers might be taken aback by
these traits, but Odysseus's pursuit of divine guidance reflects his moral compass and leadership's
wisdom, emphasizing the captain's devotion and virtuous aspirations. Further, as Stanford remarks,
the choice of Odysseus to commune with the deities in seclusion mirrors the tendencies
of a Hebrew prophet more so than the collective and ritualistic spiritual practices of the
Homeric hero in exitent. Yeah, and again, if you want all of
the people that you are in command of to follow your lead, why doesn't
the deity show himself to everybody? That would settle the argument really quick,
would it not? So going off in seclusion and leaving your people to fester
and wonder what you're up to and wonder what the heck if you just abandoned
them or not, and then come back forty days later and be like,
hey, what's been happening? Why didn't you just you know, like,
there's a better way to do that, and it would have settled all the
questions right away. But nah, now just take my word for it.
Everything's good. I talked to God. You can't ya, Na, it
doesn't make sense if you wanted them to follow why why wouldn't God just up
and do what he's seemingly able to do with one person. Hey, I'm
here, this is me. This is what I do. See how I
do it. You should follow this guy, because I put him in charge.
It would have been settled this thirty two. The prolonged absence of Moses
is what agitates the Israelites, a scenario reminiscent of three Nakia, where the
cruise restlessness proceed Odysseus's solitary quest for prayer due to the winds. The correlation
between Moses's absence and the israelites subsequent defiance is delineated more overtly than in the
Odyssey, as illustrated by the phrase the people saw that Moses was so long
in coming down from the mountain. Moses's absence spans forty days, and within
this timeframe in Exodus twenty four, when he departs to converse with Yahweh,
until his return in chapter thirty two, the Old Testament authors interpose an episode
which doesn't directly pertain to the insurrection, the narrative of Moses's divine engagement atop
the mountain, as captured between Exodus twenty five to thirty one synthesizes two mythological
I always thought that this thing right here in the middle with a little uh,
it looks like a camera, like they're setting up for a video or
something. It just looks funny. It's like and action goal structures an a
basis and the visionary experience. Moses has a scent or going up, referred
to as an anabasis in the septuagen is analogous to a celestial journey. As
Moses scales the peak, he metaphorically nears the heavens. Here he is endowed
with a modified visionary experience, with Yahweh serving as his otherworldly mentor. In
both tales, the leader's absence stems from their engagement or attempt to communicate with
the divine, as seen with Moses and Odysseus, while the respective followers act
in defiance of their deities intent. In moments of exacerbated impatience, people often
seek alternative leaders, who, in the absence of a direct connection to the
divine, tend to oppose sacred edicts to fulfill the demands of the disappointed.
Eurylicos exhibits such tendencies on numerous occasions. He is believed to be the unidentified
crew member who tempts fate by opening Aeolus's bag, a transgression that notably occurs
during Odysseus's slumber. Eurylicos directly confis fronts Odysseus on Ayayah and plays a pivotal
role in the decision to dock at Thrinakia in Exodus thirty two. Aaron pants
just seem to slow these people down no need, and Moses's sibling and the
high priest tasked with leading sacrificial rights, steps into this surrogate leadership role.
It's essential to note that Aaron was not originally a front runner amongst the disgruntles
in previous narratives. He was, in fact a target of their rage.
The Israelites fault him and Moses for their predicaments with Pharaoh and for their tribulations
en route to Canaan. However, it's during their prolonged stay at Mount Sinai's
base, in the protracted absence of Moses, that Aaron rises as the leader
of the dissenting group. The disparity in behavior Eurylicosis recurrent confrontations with Odysseus in
contrast to Aaron's loyalty to Moses up until Exodus thirty two becomes more pronounced when
assessing their eventual destinies in the elimination of their respective myths. Both protagonists and
the narrative share the trade of having a relative in a secondary leadership role.
Eurylica shares family ties with Odysseus, being connected through marriage has highlighted in Odysseus's
recounting. This bond becomes particularly significant when Odysseus contemplates retribution against Urylicos for attempting
to deter the crew from journeying to Circe's abode. Despite the degree of kinship
not being as close as that of Aaron and Moses, the fundamental sentiment remains
consistent. It is unexpected for a relative to exhibit disloyalty to the main leader.
Aaron's introduction into Moses' overarching narrative comes notably late. His emergence is only
recorded post Moses's marriage and extended tenure with the Midianites. Specifically, it's upon
the conclusion of the Burning Bush episode where Yahweh designates Arin as Moses's spokesperson.
Interestingly, while Moses's sister gets a mention albeit without a name in the primary
narrative. Aaron's conspicuous absence despite his significant involvement later on, is intriguing.
Some scholars underscore this delayed introduction, remarking on the absence of prior mention of
Aaron, saying no previous report of Aaron's existence had been made. The apparent
contradictions in Aaron's portrayal, ranging from being a leader of the dissenters to the
progenitor of the priestly lineage, could likely be attributed to the merging of disparate
narratives, resulting in certain incongruities. Prior to significant divergencies in their narratives,
both Eurylicus and Aaron are portrayed as collaborators with the primary protagonists. Eurylicus,
although frequently portrayed as confronting or opposing Odysseus, also aids him on several occasions,
especially in religious rituals. In the Realm of Hades, Eurylicus, along
with another crew member, Paramedes, helps with the sacrifice of two rams in
line with circes guidance, following her previous directions. When when they later confront
the sirens, it is Circe's explicit instructions that save them, detaelling how Odysseus
can listen to their song yet remain unscathed, emphasizing that should he request to
be released, his bindings should instead be tightened. When the songs allure proves
irresistible to Odysseus, it is Paramedes and Eurylicus who enforced his bindings, following
circes divine commands, evoking the ritualistic nature of the event into the Hades sacrifice
in the same vein Aarin in relation to Moses Echoes Urylicos's relationship with Odysseus,
though he later spearheads the rebellion in Exodus thirty two, Aaron's earlier representations depict
him harmoniously collaborating with Moses. His inaugural mention in Exodus reveals Yahweh's intention for
the brothers to act in concert with Aaron as Moses' mouthpiece. Throughout Moses's engagements
with Pharaoh, Aaron consistently partners with him, showcasing their collaborative spear As the
inaugural high Priest of Israel, Aaron's intimate involvement in sacrificial rights is evident their
collaborative endeavors peaque when they jointly petition Pharaoh for permission to conduct a sacrifice to
Yahweh. When Pharaoh's subsequent denial, Erin's capacities are highlighted as he executes a
series of miraculous acts, including transforming the Niles waters to blood. These acts
intriguingly foreshadow his capability to fashion the Golden calf later on, disrespecting the divine.
In his desire to avoid death by starvation, considered the most tragic demise,
Eurylicos suggests slaughtering the prime cattle of Helios, and now we know why
the communists love the star of people. As an offering to the gods of
Olympus, he then proposes to perform rights in honor of Helios once they returned
home. The transgression is artfully concealed within the framework of ritual practices. With
Odysseus away in slumber, Eurylicos and the rest of the crew proceed to see
several of Helios's cattle. They offer prayers before slaughtering, skinning, and roasting
the animals, committing a profound sacrilege. In a parallel narrative, certain Israelites,
resembling the most unnamed crew members of Odysseus save four Prayamedes, approach Erin
with a request to create and venerate idols not dedicated to Yahweh. Heating their
wishes, Aaron collects their gold earrings and crafts the golden calf, even constructing
an altar to worship it. This act of using it, they said,
we want a god we can see again. Yeah, we could have done
something about that, if you really want to do in gold jewelry can be
traced back to an earlier episode in Egypt, where the Israelites had acquired gold
and silver ornaments from their neighbors, Although Exodus thirty two two to three specifically
cites the nose rings as the source, what they're doing here also is a
parable to the Pagans and the image, because the image is what they call
the idol right, the idol worship, or whatever the image was important in
the pagan rights of the drug induced death and rebirth. They would actually even
jot down after your experience what you could what you could say in words.
They would write your experience out to see if they could find is this from
a book or justice analysis it's pulling from a bunch of different sources. I
don't know what myth vision does in the backside of their performances, but I
don't know Polka, he's quoting the Exodus an awful lot of stuff like that.
But as far as it's comparative between this and the exploration in the Greek
myth. But what was I saying about the image is that that they're kind
of with the Golden Calf, they're kind of a bringing up the idea of
the pagan being of course against Yahweh, which we were just listening to Nazik
informat and how that was that wasn't separate before. It also kind of shows
the dating to be much later in history than what they say was it was
written the Golden Calf. There's a possibility that it indirectly alludes to the jewelry
mentioned in Exodus eleven two. In both Greek and Old Testament narratives, divine
prohibitions play a recurrent and crucial role. A comparison can be drawn between Adam
and Eves violation of the ban against consuming from the Tree of Knowledge and the
Greek myths, wherein Epimetheus is warned not to receive gifts from Zeus, and
Pandora is cautioned against opening the urn. As recorded in Works and Days,
These stories symbolize the initial pairs in both Israelite and Greek mythologies. A reoccurring
theme in these tales is the failure of humans, early humans to honor agreements
with deities, especially in heating divine prohibitions. In the Biblical story of the
destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, an angel instructs Lot and his family not to
glance back while escaping. The dire consequence of ignoring the divine command is vividly
illustrated when Lot's wife, defying the command, transformed into a pillar of salt.
In Homer's Odyssey, Circe reiterates Tyresius's warnings to avoid harm nice God right
arming Heliosi's cattle, elevating a seer's warning to the stature of a divine command
central to the end. And of course that's also symbolism in cryptic language,
it's not a literal thing that happened. They're talking about some type of right
or ritual that they're conducting, and it's portrayed that way. Exodus narrative,
the Decalogue is comprised solely of divine prohibitions. By crafting the idol and participating
in the ritual, Aarin and the dissenting Israelites breach three of these decrees.
You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself
an image in the form of anything in heaven above, or on earth beneath,
or in the waters below. You should not bow down to them or
worship them. For I the Lord your God, and the jealous God punishing
the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.
That sounds like a psychopathomy and a jealous one of those who hate me Exodus
twenty three through five. Subsequent to this initial version of the Decalogue, Yahweh
expressly instructs Moses, you must not make gods of silver to be worshiped beside
me, nor may you make yourselves gods of gold. This additional divine prohibition
is also infringed upon by Aaron and the defiant Israelites. A striking similarity in
both myths is the direct conveyance of divine prohibitions by the deities Circe and Yahweh
to the pivotal figures Odysseus and Moses, respectively. Both myths depict the rebels
rituals as a skewed imitation of authentic ceremonies. In the Odyssey, Eurylicos and
his team are primarily driven by hunger, with the sacrifice to Helios serving merely
as a cover. The genuineness of their sacrifice is further brought into question by
their use of unsuitable substitutes. In place of barley, they scatter oat leaves,
and without wine, they offer water as libations. The legitimacy of their
ceremony is question disregarding the divine prohibitions surrounding the cattle. Their subsequent banquet spans
six days and is punctuated by eerie omens, including moving cattle hides and sound
of mooing from the meat being roasted. As some scholars have pointed out,
this last feast, with its unsettling omens, bears thematic similarities to the final
meal of the suitors in the Odyssey and Theoclimenis's foreboding vision of a palace drenched
in blood haunted by ghostly apparitions. A comparable narrative emerges with Aaron and the
Israelites their creation of the golden calf defies divine mandates. The following events are
marked by a day long feast where they sat down to eat and drink,
and later engaged in festivity. Scholars draw attention to the disparity between this ritualistic
behavior and their subsequent hedonism, highlighting that the people's actions mimic the Covenant's formulation
in Chapter twenty four, which also encompass sacrifice and a holy meal in the
presence of a discernible deity. In both myths, there's an association with the
same animal type, whether it's a cow, bull, or a calf.
While these animals are commonly used in sacrificial rites and represented as divine symbols,
this similarity, albeit broad, provides yet another parallel. In Exodus thirty two,
the bovine representation of the idol adds a layer of mockery. Having encountered
Yahweh, the Israelites revert to venerating a deity linked to an animal form.
This serves as a reflection of the shared sacrificial traditions between the Greeks and Israelites
evident throughout the Mosaic text. We must emphasize that the dissenters are actually conscious
of the transgressions they are undertaking. Caesius four warns of the crew's doom if
they harm Helios's cattle. Notably, both Eurylicos and Paramedes are present during this
prophecy alongside Odysseus. Later, as they sell past Tharnakia, Odysseus conveys the
essence of Teresius's warning to the entire crew, eliciting from them an oath to
refrain from killing any ox or sheep, which they duly swear. The gravity
of infringing upon Helios's cattle is not lost on them. Eurylicos's own words when
advocating for the consumption of the cattle a test to his comprehension of the peril.
Despite being fully apprised of the consequences, they consciously decide they'd prefer perishing
at sea over succumbing to hunger on Thurnachia, and their wish is tragically granted
in the context of the Old Testament. Given the relentless critiques against venerating any
deity other than Yahueh, the Israelites would undoubtedly recognize, even if subconsciously,
that they're partaking an apostasy. This apogy. If you're the creator and a
group of piece people have a different impression of what the creator is and they
worship are they still worshiping you? Because if you are the creator, you've
created that thing too, right, I don't know. State act is thematically
known to illicit Yahweh's anger, as particularly emphasized in Exodus twenty five. Both
myths incorporate discussions regarding temple construction in the honesty while persuading the crew to sacrifice
some of Helios's cattle, Eurylico's promises to construct a temple in honor of the
God upon their safe arrival. Such a subject is infrequently broached in Homeric epics.
Alfred Hubeck elaborates mentions of dedicating temples are especially noteworthy in homer considering there
are hardly any mentions of Greek temples, save for one the Temple of Athena
at Athens and another at Troy and among the Phoenicians. Historically, Dark Age
Greeks began constructing temples relatively later, perhaps influenced by external cultures. Eurylicos's commitment,
juxtaposed with his urging to harm the God's sacred livestock exudes a sense of
thoughtless contradiction. Meanwhile, the Exodus narrative in the chapters preceding thirty two,
extensively details the blueprint of the tabernacle and its associated offerings. Though presented distinctively,
this is another shared motif between the myths, strategically positioned in their respective
narratives. Eurylicos's envision temple is opulent, filled with agalmata, or offerings pleasing
to the gods. These could be sacrifices, artifacts, or even idols.
The Septuagen's translation also utilizes agalmata in similar contexts. The terms inaugural mention in
the Odyssey sheds light on its versatility. Agistos, drawing parallels to the suitors
and the crew post sacrificing animal, presents agalmata comprising gold and woven artifacts as
tokens of appreciation for winning Climenestra's affection. Like Eurylicos, Egistus offers agomata subsequent
to deeds frowned upon by the gods, as emphasized by Zeus. When nest
identifies Athena's prior presence, he pledges a gilded horned yearling cow as a sacrifice
to her. This offering, later meticulously detailed, is identified as an algomata
for Athena, echoing the gilded calf idol in Exodus thirty two. The Odyssey's
sole portrayal of the Trojan horse from the Trojan's viewpoint offers intriguing parallels. The
Trojans, after some contemplation, consider the wooden horse a divine agomata and usher
it into their city, mirroring the Israelites in Exodus thirty two. The Trojans,
in linking this wooden representation to deities, inadvertently still their fate. Odysseus
and Moses discerned the indiscretions of their people from Afar upon their return. As
Odysseus wakes up and makes his way back to the ship, he detects the
aroma of roasting meat even before reaching his crew. Similarly, as Moses descends
the mountain with the tablets crafted by Yahweh, Joshua assumes the noises are from
a battle. However, Moses more accurately discerns it is not the sound of
victory or the sound of defeat. It's the sound of singing that I hear.
I think we did catch this last week or last Monday, but uh
yeah, we'll get caught up your son, Exodus thirty two. The Septuagint
further expresses joyfulness among the Israelites, which closely aligns with the atmosphere in Odyssey
twelve, where the celebratory feast continues for six days. The text states,
I hear their voice led by wine. Exodus thirty two, Total destruction by
wrathful gods. In a celestial assembly, Helios, consumed by rage over an
affront, warns Zeus that he may refrain from illuminating the earth, saying,
if they fail to offer me fair compensation for my cattle, I will descend
to Hades and light up the realm of the deceased. As Professor Lauden references
in his book in chapter one, this represents a distinct variant of celestial assembly,
where in the supreme sky, deity such as Zeus arbitrates with an angered
god who issues threats of widespread devastation. A parallel can be seen in the
Epic of Gilgamesh. Here's another thing to consider. So if Helios is above
Zeus in the sense here, and Zeus is equated to you, yeah,
the Ahwah isn't the top dog. Enraged, Ishtar confronts Anu, proclaiming,
I shall direct myself to the nether world and awaken the deceased, causing them
to consume the living, outnumbering them. Should Helios decide to cast his lights
solely in the underworld, it would inevitably result in a cataclysmic event, extinguishing
all life on Earth. Yet Zeus adeptly pacifies Helios, convincing him to limit
his retribution solely to those humans who harmed his cattle. Upon learning of an
insurrection, Yahweh's reaction mirrors that of Helios. He is so deeply aggrieved by
their act that he contemplates annihilating all Israelites, beyond just the culprits of the
indiscretion. However, Moses intervenes similarly to how Zeus pacified Helios. As highlighted
in Professor Lauden's Chapter one of his book, Moses's conversation with Yahweh can be
viewed as a type of celestial assembly reminiscent of the Zuus Helios exchange. This
assembly is groundbreaking for two reasons. It involves discourse between a deity and a
mortal, and it portrays Moses in a role customarily associated with a supreme deity.
Several scholars have observed that in various episodes of Exodus, Moses assumes responsibilities
typically ascribe to a deity. In this distinct scenario, Moses, much like
Zeus or Au, negotiates with the wrathful god Yahue. Akin to Helios or
Ishtar, Moses succeeds in moderating Yahweh's fury, convincing him to reduce the scale
of punishment from a potential annihilation of the entire Israelite population to the demise of
a mere three thousand individuals. There are broader thematic resemblances between the narratives of
Poseidon in Homeric literature and Yahweh in the Old Testament episodes. Both deities voice
grievances about perceived disrespect, as demonstrated by Poseidon at Odyssey thirteen and Iliad seven,
by this being a prevalent motif. Considering the parallels identified between Yahweh and
Poseidon in chapter seven of Laudon's book, these deities appear to share significant similarities.
A speculative hypothesis proposed by E. L. Brown suggests that the dayon
in posiding On or Poseidon, as referenced in Homer, might be etymologically linked
to Dagon, a primary deity of the Philistines in the Old Testament tales,
given that numerous archais, which is interesting because when you read the Eugaritic texts,
which I don't understand why these people still get this wrong a lot,
and when they're doing their presentations, if they read it, Dagon was the
father of ball. Ball wasn't Elle's child, So that's that's something that I
thought would be more important to them, since he's the only deity in the
way to call the pantheon that wasn't a son of l theologists now linked the
Philistines with the Mycenaean Greek culture, the plausibility of an etymology connection between these
names is conceivable. Both Odysseus from the Odyssey and Moses from the Book of
Exodus are portrayed as figures set apart from their respective companions due to their principled
actions and avoidance of transgressions. In the case of Odysseus, during the episode
where his crew sacrilegiously slaughters the cattle of Helios, he is absent engaging in
prayer, he neither partakes in the sacrilegious act nor indulgence in the subsequent feast.
This distinction is emblematic of Odysseus's intrinsic self discipline contrasted with the impulsive nature
of his crew, highlighting his unique moral fiber. This one says what the
Hecateus is going on. Biblical authors have painted vivid portraits of iconic figures,
treating them as historical luminaries, regardless of some of the rather eyebrow raising assertions
Abraham's age of one seventy five a walk in the park compared to Adams wopping
nine hundred and thirty year tenure. Through the honals of history, historians and
ecclesiastical scholars, with fervor akin to investigative detectives, have endeavored to tether these
Biblical tells to the realm of historical accuracy, their tools intricate genealogies and comparative
historiography, striving to lend the patriarchal chronicles an air of authenticity befitting the second
millennium BCE. Yet, as times relentless march continues, our academic arsenal has
evolved providing sharper instruments for dissecting the veracity of these age old tells. The
unquestioned existence of these Biblical heavyweights was the modus apparandi even for the most discerning
scholars, until that is, the twentieth century's latter half bestowed upon us a
plot twist. Upon uncovering the intricate tapestry of sources that constitute the genesis and
patriarchal narratives, theories abounded. The documentary hypothesis, the supplementary hypothesis, and
their scholarly siblings arose, all questing to reconcile the improbability of Moses, single
handedly pinning this voluminous work. By the nineteenth century, that notion had all
but retired to the annals of antiquated thought. If there ever was an exodus,
it is absolutely nothing like the Bible describes it. The same can be
said about the United Monarchy with King David and Solomon. The more we dig,
the more scandalous it seems that the Bible is not historically accurate. But
is that the author's goal? Are they trying to convince their readers and hearers
of a fake history? As Plato recommended in his writings. In the historical
pursuit of the Biblical patriarchs, many scholars, equipped with both archaeological tools and
scripture, sought empirical confirmation of these iconic figures. In Egypt, one is
presented with names from First Immediate Period circa twenty one eighty one to twenty fifty
five BCE associated with Abraham and believed to be Amorites. This association arises because
of the phonetic resemblance to the Amuru from South Mesopotamia emerging around the same epoch.
Parallelly, the Hixsos linked to Jacob and Joseph are perceived as invaders with
Amorite affiliations. Curiously, it's the nomenclature of these patriarchs that seemingly connect these
historical dots, allowing scholars to interpret these tales as densed history of the Near
East. During the second millennium, when drafting foundational stories of a nation,
it's likely that authors might retroject their primeval figures, and here we have a
depiction of Chronos saturn Rate in front of our faces. Here they are glass
into antiquated settings, lending of veneer of authenticity. This perspective gains weight.
Considering the lack of archaeological traces for many cited cities or their emergence only in
the eighth and seventh centuries BCE, how can one validate a twelfth century BCE
conquest of cities that archaeologically appear half a millennium later. Such narratives likely embellished
retellings of pure literary creations, often weave in contemporaneous nuances, inadvertently revealing their
true temporal origins to draw a playful analogy. Discovering a gospel where Peter Cruz
is in a Honda city, I think we did go past this holdon because
we did the Honda civic thing. Let me bring it up a little Bitologists
have demonstrated a contempt for the Persian period and removed its remains to rubbish dumps
in order to get down to the real Israelite layers lemkey sites. A.
Mazar's Archaeology of the Land of the Bible five eighty six PCE as illustrative to
this attitude. As for the Hellenistic period, it should never be forgotten that
the revitalization of the ancient Near East only became a fact after the Greek takeover
boom, there you go. There was barely anything there, barely anything going
on until the Greeks were involved. It is an established fact that city life
vastly expanded after the conquest of all Lexander. Here we must realize what happened
in Jerusalem and in Palestine, innovations that were comparable, although on a smaller
scale, to the cultural developments in Syria, Mesopotamia and Egypt. Scholars may
nurse very romantic ideas about what may have happened in the nooks and crannies of
pre Hellenistic Palestine in a society considerably poorer than the one found there, for
example, during the Late Bronze Age. A more worldly and realistic assessment of
facts suggest that the Persian period was not the time when the Old Testament could
have been written down. Hardly any parallel exists to such a development, but
a lot of evidence that says the Hellenistic Age was the formative period of early
Jewish thought and literature, as witnessed by the Old Testament itself. The myriad
of laws within the the Hebrew Bible draw parallels more closely to the works of
Plato, rather than the traditions of the ancient Near East. Both Gamerican and
Philip Wagenbaum theorized that Plato's philosophical treaties were seminal influences shaping the Biblical author's formulation
of idealistic national laws. When we look at Greek literature, we can see
that the Biblical tells of the Israelites exodus under Moses and their conquest under Joshua
are quite similar to the Greek foundation stories. Even though this kind of storytelling
wasn't common in the ancient Near East, it was very popular among the Greeks
during the Hellenistic period. Land promises given to the biblical figures like Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob, and those given to heroes like Heracles and Aneas.
The stories of these patriarchs served as a prelude to the foundation of the Israelite
nation by Moses and jo Similarly, Greek tales about ancient heroes and foundational ancestors
provided a historical context for subsequent movements and conquests. The Israelites journey and settlement
into the promised land mirrors Greek myths like the Return of the Heraclids. Usually,
foundation stories, which explain how a group settled in a new territory,
begin by detailing the problems that made them leave their original home. These issues
could be overpopulation, famine, disease outbreaks, natural disasters, economic problems,
internal conflicts, forced exile, military defeats, or escaping potential conquests, and
enslavement. In one ancient Jewish story written by Hecateus of Abderrah around three point
fifteen BCE, it said that Egypt became overpopulated, leading the Egyptians to send
settlers to places including Babylon and Judea. Another tale from Beneatho, written around
two eighty five BCE, claims that Jerusalem and Judea were first inhabited by the
Hixos, foreign rulers who took over Egypt, but were later forced out by
the Egyptians due to a disease outbreak linked to the Hixos's ungodly practices. In
contrast, the biblical Exodus story, written around two seventy BCE, presents a
different viewpoint. The Egyptians faced plagues as punishment for enslaving the Israelites, and
only after suffering these calamities did the Pharaoh let them go. This narrative of
escaping from bondage fits the pattern of Hellenistic foundation stories and is a consistent theme
in Biblical tales. Their quest for freedom aligns well with Greek tells. A
pivotal moment in the Exodus story is when God chooses Moses to be the liberator
and guide for the Jewish people. This revelation occurs when Moses, in exile
from Egypt, discovers a holy site in the Sinai Desert. God informs him
that he has been chosen to lead the Israelites out of Egypt to a new
homeland with Aaron's assistance. Although hesitant and unsure, Moses accepts this significant responsibility
in the Biblical story, Moses's divine selection to lead mirrored a common trend seen
in Greek foundation tells. Typically, in these tales, an oracle, usually
at the famed del Phi sanctuary dedicated to Apollo, would choose the leader termed
oikist for a colonization mission. This oikis held various roles expedition head, military
leader, spiritual guide, and law enforcer. It was a reoccurring theme for
these leaders to be unexpectedly chosen guidance for their journey, including specific landmarks and
signs to determine settlement. Areas often came from the Delphi Oracle. On some
journeys, a prophet or spiritual guide accompanied the leader, aiding in establishing the
new settlement. The Biblical account showcases the Israelites as an organized, armed group
constantly prepared for battle as they journeyed from Egypt. Moses was their military strategist,
but their triumphs, whether in battle against various tribes or major exodus from
Egypt, were attributed to the divine intervention of Yahweh. This description of the
exodus sets the stage for the next phase, the conquest, where Joshua takes
over Moses' military role. Throughout these narratives, the main emphasis is on the
armed men. Women, children in livestock are seen as under their protection,
while the fighters are the focus of accounts and are explicitly numbered. The portrayal
of this migration, then is of an armed group transitioning from one territory to
conquer another. This depiction aligns with Greek tells, where colonization parties often journeyed
as arm contingents. It's at Delphi that Apollo, recognized as the god guiding
migrations and settlements, was consulted. In the Bible, Mount Sinai serves as
the pivotal spot where God communicates with Moses, and this return to Sinai in
the Exodus narrative is the backdrop for the profound moment where Moses climbs the mountain
and receives God's commandments. In Greek tales, the leader often revisits the Delphi
Oracle for advice on pressing issues. This trip back to the oracle sometimes left
the expedition group alone for extended times, akin to Moses's forty days stay on
the mountain. Moses, as the lawgiver, fits seamlessly within the Greek narrative
structure. In Greek tells, the oikest typically established laws for the new settlement.
Historical accounts and legends often credit ancient law codes to singular prominent figures,
such as Lycurgus or Solon, who sometimes were believed to have received these laws
directly from deities. Established processes even allowed for proposed law codes. For those
of you just listening, they show the loyal leaves around both of those coins
or Salon, and like her is same thing that you see around the United
Nations. So you got the whole club of Roman aspect. In there too,
which kind of indicates that the Roman Empire is alive and well, just
in a different form. It's to be presented at an oracle like Delphi to
gain divine approval. While Greek narratives often depict lawgivers getting divine laws via specific
ceremonial methods, the Bible portrays Moses directly meeting God at Sinai amid an awe
inspiring natural display. At Mount Sinai, Moses supervised the creation of a special
tint and its items. This tent wasn't just a place of worship, but
was believed to be the dwelling place of God. As the Israelites traveled through
the wilderness, God was thought to accompany them within this tent. Moses was
the main spiritual leader for the Israelites during their journey, much like the Oikist
in Greek stories. The Oikist was also a religious leader representing the god Apollo
during their colonization missions. Hey, I'm just going to reply to humble painter
here. He says that I read that the laurel leaves represented truth that might
be a meeting a meaning, but when it's wrapped around the entire earth,
it looks what looks more like the clamping jaws of a giant fish. It
makes me think that what they're saying is that they are the They are encompassing
and ruling of all the earth, and that's simple being equated to Roman Uh.
I think that I think there's a there's something to look at there.
When the Greeks ventured into new territories, they believed they were also relocating their
gods. A sacred fire symbolized this move, which they used for religious rituals
during the journey. Apollo's famous sanctuary and Delphi often gave them guidance on where
to settle and build their new sanctuaries. In the Bible. Before entering their
desired land, the Israelites sent scouts to check it out. However, they
were disheartened by the challenges they'd face in conquering it. As a result,
they spent forty years wandering, during which the entire soldier generation died. For
Israelites. After their forty year journey, there was a renewed emphasis on the
laws, particularly in the Book of Deuteronomy. This highlighted how they should live
once they settled. All these guidelines were officially approved by the community and were
meant to be publicly displayed in their new homeland. Similarly, when Joshua took
the people across the Jordan, Qui set up an altar and inscribed these laws,
ensuring they were practiced. Like in the Bible, Greek colonization stories also
focused on establishing foundational laws for their new territories. The leader or oikist,
who was similar to Moses, set these laws. The oikist laid down rules
about political, religious, and military structures, the society's class system, land
distribution, and citizens' rights. Just as in the Biblical narrative, these laws
were approved by the community, usually with rituals and oaths. Often these guidelines
were inscribed on stone tablets for everyone to see. When the Israelites reached the
Promised Land, they were coming back to the original home of their ancestors Abraham
Isaac, So they say, so, they say, this might be a
good time to drop this in quick, because I wanted this to be emphasized.
From the book Priestcrassed Beyond Babylon. I quote another book called The Laughing
Jesus, and I'm going to read this quote once again. After the death
of Alexander in three twenty five BC, his general Polomy ruled Palestine from Egypt.
The next century and a half saw a momentous change in Palestine as Greek
technology and customs were introduced into the region. Coinage replaced barter, agriculture was
revolutionized by artificial irrigation, water wheels, the plow, the wine press,
and other similar implements that they did not have. They did not have.
Okay, they didn't have any of these luxuries, any of these innovations.
But they were a great nation. So now Jerusalem really did become a city
skilled in many crafts. And that was a quote, as one of the
Jewish writers of the time puts it. In this time and in this same
period there was an explosion of Jewish literature after they were tut right Greek for
the first time in the history of this region. We have the beginnings of
a high culture capable of creating and sustaining a literate class for the first time.
From the beginning of the second century BC, Palestine produced many famous philosophers,
poets, satirists, and rhetoricians, some of whom even became friends and
advisors to influential Roman statesmen such as POMPEII, Brutus and Cicero. The Jews
had finally arrived on the world stage as a sophisticated people for the first time.
But ironically, they had only achieved this through an education that was thoroughly
Greek. Almost all the Jewish literature produced in this period is written in Greek.
The Jews wrote in Greek and thought in Greek. And when you understand
that there's two hundred and sixty seven thousand different definitions in over one million,
seven hundred thousand and unique words in ancient Greek to their eight thousand in quote
unquote ancient Hebrew, you understand why it means what is meant by they thought
in Greek because they expressed themselves in their language, their primary language, which
was Greek. So what came first the Hebrew Bible in Hebrew? Or was
it in Greek first? And this says the Jews wrote in Greek and thought
in Greek. And yet the Jews were never Greeks and never could be,
no matter how hard they aspired. The Greeks had divided the world into two
mutually exclusive categories, Greeks and barbaris how they talk, so they call them
barbarians. In response, the Jews divided the world into Jews and Gentiles one
upmanship, and produced a body of literature that proved, at least to their
own satisfaction, that the Jews were not only equal to the Greeks, they
were better. Heck, they taught them. Uh huh. Sure. But
what's terrible about that is the entire basis of the Bible, history, history
and air quotes here is dependent on whether or not you believe that they taught
the Greeks or that the Greeks taught them. Dick and Jacob. The story
reminds us of the return of the Heraclids in Greek tales. In both stories,
a divine command encouraged the takeover of the local people. Similarly, the
journey of Joshua and conquering part of the Promised Land matches Greek stories about the
founding of new colonies. In both the Bible and Greek tales, the deity
presents the land as a gift. The conquering colonizers believed they were not just
allowed, but obligated to take over. Of course, that's convenient. One
more thing here, we're gonna read it this part too. This is coming
from the priestcraft beyond Babylon. But it's a quote from the laughing Jesus.
Once again, it says the Jewish fantasy factory. That's the title of the
section. No sooner had the Jews assimilated their Greek education than they began to
give a novel meaning false account of how they came about it. They had
not learned from the Greeks, who just got finished teaching them. Right.
It was the other way around, of course. In two twenty BC,
the Jewish writer Hermippus recorded his opinion that Pythagoras, the first man in the
Greek world to be called a philosopher, had actually acquired all his wisdom from
the Jews. Aristobulus, writing in the middle of the second century BC,
remember these names. So when they pop up and you think, well,
that sounds Greek, he realized that's who this is, who they actually are.
Okay, it's not a it's not a it's not a Greek man.
Uh, what do you call it? Supporting the idea that the Jews came
first, it's not it's a Jew with a Greek name. Proposing that,
Aristobulus, writing in the middle of the second century, added that Plato had
borrowed his ideas from Moses. In the in the first century, Josephus claimed
that he that the wisest of the Greeks, including Plato, Pythagoras and Exaggerate
and Exagaris and the Stoics, had learned their conceptions of God from principles with
which Moses supplied them. Josephus is a door too. According to the Jewish
writer Eupolemists, however, the Greeks even owed their knowledge of the alphabet to
Moses. They didn't have a freaking mark Mark Barrett language, but that they
needed their alphabet from Moses. Yeah, he had taught it first to the
Jews, who then taught it to the Phoenicians, who in turn taught it
to the Greeks. Atripanus, another Jewish writer, tells us that Moses acquired
the name Mosaos from the Greeks because sorry mosaics from the Greeks, became the
teacher of Orpheus and conferred a whole host of benefits upon mankind, including the
invention of ships, mechanisms for stone construction, weaponry, hydraulic engines, implements
of warfare, and of course philosophy. In Egypt. Moses's achievements were even
more spectacular. He taught hieroglyphics to the Egyptian priests, divided the nation into
thirty six names, assigned to each a god it was to worship and named
Hermi, and was named Hermes because of his ability to interpret sacred writings.
During the Hellenistic period, there was no end to the Jews delight in rewriting
history and playing one upmanship with the Greeks, Egyptians and other powerful rivals.
Most of the time the native people. And why I say this, it's
not to pick on anybody, it's just more fuel for that fire that reminds
us that we have been taken over by a deceptive Yaoist Saturn cult and they've
taken all the worst elements of the past, which they call pagan too,
but they are using him anyway. The rituals, the drugs, the harming
of children, all incorporated into something that has been going on since the Canonite
times, which by the way, they are Canonites. They just re polished
themselves, gave themselves a false history and resold it repackaged. Were either defeated
and enslaved or forced to move. Sometimes the takeover was explained with a moral
reason adding it to the legend. The oikist or colony leader often became a
revered hero due to his military leadership, but starting a colony wasn't always smoothed.
The newcomers often faced challenges from locals, which sometimes made the Greeks rethink
or give up their plans, just like how the Greeks felt shame for not
taking over the lands given by their god Apollos oracle. The Israelites were also
criticized in the Book of Did you see that tephilin on his head? You
can see it right here if you can see my point or not, But
it's puking through his little hood. There that is a symbol of Saturn with
a piece of a torost girl in it, apparently judges for not fully conquering
their promised land. The tradition of the Oikist often involved the yearly celebration that
remembered the founding of the colony under the Oikists' leadership. One of the most
famous such celebrations was the dorians Carnea festival, honoring the establishments of Sparta.
I thought I cut this part out. I guess I didn't. Therah and
Syene the Carnaa was initially a festival that celebrated farming, paying tribute to karnas
an old ram god. Later this god was associated with Apollo. Apollo Carneus
signifies Apollo as the guide of migrations, much like how a ram leads its
flock. Its particular aspect of Apollo is credited with guiding the Dorian movement to
Sparta and other colonization efforts. The nine day Carnea festival had various activities like
the sacrifice of a ram and a recreation of a military journey which includes dances
with weapons and parades with miniature ships. National Foundation Myths, Greeks and Jews.
In a discerningly pinned blog post, Neil Godfrey delves into the intriguing parallels
between Phrixus and Isaac. Such a comparison, he asserts, is indispensable.
When examining Abraham's narrative, one cannot sidestep the intertwined tells of Isaac or Jacob.
Abraham stands as the proverbial patriarch of the Jews, celebrated not only for
the inaugural covenant of circumcision, but also for his heart. Yeah thanks a
lot for that. There, Abe wrenched act of near sacrifice of his beloved
son Isaac. I hear voices in my head telling me to kill my child.
I better do it. Let's base three religions on me sounds great.
Godfrey's insights are underpinned by Philip Wagenbaum's seminal work Argonauts of the Desert. Through
rigorous contemplation, Godfree offers an astute interpretation of Wagenbaum's contentions, showcasing his commendable
grasp on the subject matter. Godfree expresses it this way. A myth must
always be analyzed in comparison to its variance within the same cultural area, where
contacts between populations are proven. Wagenbaum is analyzing the Bible narratives as myths,
though he concedes they may contain some historical elements, and comparing the accounts with
narratives and laws from Greek literature. While ancient Near Eastern literature offers many laws
similar to those in the Bible, he thinks the Greek literature has not been
explored in this context to its full potential. Phrixus and Isaac under the microscope,
parallelism between the Greek myth of Phrixus and the binding of Isaac indicates a
source derivative relationship. One A Thomas, king of Beotia, married Nephii,
a cloud goddess created in the image of hera by Zeus. Gee do we
get Nephelin from her? I don't know. Two A Thomas and Nephilie had
twin children, a son, Phrixus and a daughter Helli. Three Athamos afterwards
rece Helly as an Hellenistic right, dejected Nephii and married Eno. Four.
Eno hated her stepchildren Phrixus and Helly, so plotted to have them killed by
their own father. Number five. Eno bribed messagers who told King Athemis that
the oracle of Delphi, speaking for the god Apollo, required the sacrifice of
Phrixus on Mount Lafician in order to end a famine in Biotia. Number six.
Just as A Thamis was about to sacrifice his son Phrixus, Zeus or
Nephili in other versions sent a golden winged ram to rescue Phrixus and Helly by
flying away with them. Number seven. Helly fell off, hence the Hell's
pont Helly's see number eight. The ram brought Phrixus safely to Colchis, Georgia.
Number nine. In gratitude, Phrixus sacrificed to Zeus the golden Ram that
saved him and hung its golden fleece on an oak tree number ten. Now,
while it may seem quite inconsequential, probably the most important ingredient of this
myth is that it is the prolog of the Epic of the Argonauts who will
come to Culchis years later to bring the famous golden fleece back to Greece.
We can recognize the resemblance to the binding of Isaac in Genesis twenty two.
To test the faith of Abraham, God orders him to sacrifice his only beloved
son on Mount Moriah. Abraham submits to the command and binds his son.
At the last moment, God sends an angel and interrupts the sacrifice. Abraham
sees a ram stuck in a bush and sacrifices that ram instead of his son.
But note the inversion of one small detail. In the Greek version,
the ram is killed first, then its fleece is hung in a tree,
whereas in the Biblical version the ram is first stuck in a bush and sacrificed
afterwards. This inversion of detail can lead us to wonder whether these stories could
both derive from a common source, one could derive from the other, or
that the resemblance is only due to coincidence. Therefore, we will pick up
this a little bit that's left here tomorrow and then we'll go into other topics
that are related of course. All right, so goodbye everybody. I know.
I think Speak Free video already departed because it's ten am now, but
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