WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:55.159 The following is a presentation of Playfly Sports properties in Michigan State Sports Properties. 2 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:04.480 Good evening, it is Thursday, May eleventh, twenty twenty three. No, 3 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:08.680 you did not log into the wrong show today. I am your host, 4 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:15.239 Alicia Straehorn, and this is Sparta MSU. Little known fact. I 5 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:18.120 am actually the one in the family with a journalism degree from Michigan State. 6 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:23.760 Yet my husband Jason is the one with an eighteen year broadcasting career. I 7 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:29.000 guess that's proof of the long life versatility of an MSU degree. So if 8 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:34.599 you're a few first time viewer, normally the show hosts are three bona fide 9 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:40.640 football Spartan dogs. Obviously I am not those things. But tonight we are 10 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:44.560 bringing you a special Mother's Day edition of the show to honor some of our 11 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:49.719 Spartan athletes, moms and the guys. Let me host selfishly. I'm super 12 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:55.120 excited about this. I have some questions myself, so before we get into 13 00:01:55.159 --> 00:02:00.000 it, I need everyone to close the live chat, hit like and subscribe 14 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:05.519 buttons, then come back to the live chat. Want to receive updates from 15 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:10.560 us between shows. This is how thanks for tuning in to This is Sparta 16 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:15.360 MSU interested in hearing more from us, be sure to follow us on Facebook, 17 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:20.919 Twitter, Instagram, and even TikTok. Click on the link in the 18 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.159 bio to head to our link tree for more information. 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Doctor Peggy had a dance. Doctor Peggy was just at a 29 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:14.840 dance with her son. And Lisa Harris. I'm sure to have to do 30 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:20.199 something for Darien, even though it's not even a player anymore. Ladies, 31 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:27.520 welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me I're excited to 32 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.719 have you here. If you want to each tell us just who you are 33 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:36.800 and who are the little people who call you mama Doctor Peggy. Would you 34 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:39.719 like to start? Yeah, I'll start. I'm Peggy. I have five 35 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:44.960 boys and a step daughter that goes in Michigan State. So I have one. 36 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:51.800 Oh my god, I can't believe you showing. My youngest is nine. 37 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:58.080 I have a sophomore at bill Him Jig, and I have a junior 38 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.960 at Bilbo High School Jerem Maya. And I have a senior at Belva High 39 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:08.360 School, Joshua. And then my oldest, Malik car is a junior at 40 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:14.960 Michigan State. So my stepdaughter's name is Kayla. She also attends in Michigan 41 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:18.360 State as well. Look at the little Southfield Falcon. We were Falcons for 42 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:27.879 a year in Jeremiah. Yeah, Joshua's going to Farris State next year to 43 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:31.319 play football. So wow, you're super excited. Yeah, Haggy, you're 44 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.399 running the whole gamut of all the seasons that we're going to get into about 45 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:40.920 the football mama life. Yeah, Lisa, can you tell us a little 46 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:46.800 bit about yourself? Sure? One of my children is walking across the table 47 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:55.879 at the moment, it's a it's driving me crazy, but human children, 48 00:04:56.040 --> 00:05:01.079 the director of Player Relations and Programming, the atsman in the MSU program, 49 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:06.079 and former linebacker number forty five. And then I have a younger son, 50 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:13.000 Jordan, who is twenty five and a graduate of Yale University with a degree 51 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.279 in psychology, and he's my theater kid. So I had kids who were 52 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:25.920 sort of completely different and they kept me running between football games and the stage. 53 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:30.000 I can't wait to talk about that dichotomy of that. I'm super excited 54 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:39.160 about that. Sherry, Yes, yes, yes, I am Sherrie Tatum. 55 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:45.360 All these are my Babs, Raven, Dylan, and Cameron. And 56 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:49.079 Cameron is the youngest. We are at her track meet, and my daughter, 57 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:56.199 Raven is also the track coach here at WB as well. And my 58 00:05:56.519 --> 00:06:05.160 son is Dylan Tatum, number swimming one can do some for me, girl, 59 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:11.920 Spartan squad. So Darren and I we're here at the track meet together. 60 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:18.680 We have raised these three wonderful children to become productive citizens in society. 61 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:25.800 Then y'all didn't just raise some productive citizens between the three of you. First 62 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:29.800 of all, you're being very humble. Let me just say this I've done 63 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:34.959 some research. So Miss Lisa's other son is the first black male valedictorian of 64 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:40.199 his high school. Yes, he didn't just go to any college and become 65 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:46.000 a theater major. Again, he's at Yale. Doctor Peggy has five children, 66 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:47.759 all of which seem that are going to go to college on some sort 67 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:55.279 of athletic scholarship. Not to mention she was an incredible athlete in her own 68 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:59.879 right in basketball, and Cherry has track stars. As you guys can see, 69 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.879 are doing their thing right now. So some people are just lucky if 70 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.920 they can get one out of the house. And y'all are set in the 71 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:14.399 world on fire. So as we were planning this episode, I realized tonight's 72 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:18.079 show number seventy five, And actually seventy five is special to me because it's 73 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:21.759 the jersey number of my oldest son, Kayden. Oh see, I didn't 74 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:26.639 know this other stuff was hastening. He first made me a football mom. 75 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:30.959 And as this is show seventy five, I feel a spirit here making me 76 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.000 a bit less nervous, even though I probably sound a little nervous still because 77 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:40.040 I know but I know he's here, so help me are get comfortable. 78 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:44.920 We are going to put off the show with special messages for each of you 79 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:51.360 from your kids, Peggy Evans, Peggy Carr, Mecmichael. I just wanted 80 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.639 to say Happy Mother's Day. Mom. You're the best mom in the world. 81 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:59.800 Will you, hey, Mom, because you're oldest son if you couldn't 82 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.240 tell, just want to wish you a very, very happy Mother's Day. 83 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:07.920 There aren't enough thank yous in the entire world for me to show the gratitude 84 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.240 that I have to you and what you've done for of course me and Jordan, 85 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:18.399 but now being a BBT Naomi and mother in law to Olivia and pseudo 86 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:22.240 mom to all of my friends and just so many people. You embody what 87 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.439 it is and what it means to be a mom. And I love you 88 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:30.519 so much, Just incredibly grateful that you are my mother and for everything that 89 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:35.320 you've done for me and taught me over the years and what has you know 90 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.240 allowed me to, you know, now be a parent and passed those things 91 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.679 down in Naomi and then watching you be a grandmother every single day is as 92 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:45.960 meaningful as it gets and as important as it gets. And I know you 93 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.600 learned a lot from your mom and the sacrifices that she made to help you 94 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:54.600 and Dad take care of us, and you're doing the same for Naomi. 95 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.519 Now. You know, at the drop of a dime you fly out here. 96 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.120 You you are obviously the best babysitter that we could ever ask for. 97 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.879 And I just love you incredibly much. And I'm really looking forward to seeing 98 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.759 you soon and bringing Naomi home to Maryland to see everybody and see the fam. 99 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.759 So enjoy your day. For me, every day is Mother's Day, 100 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:18.559 but enjoy your special day. See you incredibly soon. Love you. Happy 101 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.399 Mother's Day out there all the mothers in the world. I want to give 102 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:24.840 a really special thanks to my mother, shay Tatam. I love you, 103 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:30.480 momcial like my number one rod up. We'll do anything together. And I 104 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.240 just appreciate you for everything you love for me and my sister so far. 105 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.480 You're great mother and my number one. Love you mom. Happy Mother's Day, 106 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.480 Mom. Thank you for being the woman every girl needs in my life. 107 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:46.320 I love you. Bye. Happy Mother's Day, Mom. Thank you 108 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:48.080 for going through all the good times at bad times with me. I love 109 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:54.919 you. What's up? Mom? I just wanted to wish you happy, 110 00:09:54.200 --> 00:10:01.200 happy Mother's Day and thank you for all the sacrifices that you made for me 111 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.559 and Cody and Gabby, and let you know that we all love you and 112 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:09.200 appreciate you. I know you're a great You're a great role model, especially 113 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:16.159 for Gabriella, for her, I mean as a female. I mean a 114 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:18.679 lot of women look up to you and say they want to be a mom 115 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:22.399 like you, And I think that's just really powerful. And how you lead 116 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:31.039 us to God and everything. You know, thank you for being faith based 117 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.960 with us, because that's the key to life, is the Bible, and 118 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:39.759 thank you for installing that in us and making sure we're in private school and 119 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:46.240 all those things. And yeah, so I just want to wish your happy 120 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:52.080 Mother's Day. I know, I'm sorry I can't be there, and I 121 00:10:52.159 --> 00:11:05.919 love you. I'll see you soon. Oh my god, I was just 122 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:13.720 most a surprise y'all now here we are all together. I think it was 123 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:22.919 all incredible goodness. The future looks bright, ladies, Yes, truly, 124 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.279 so, given how terrific your young men are, we are all excited to 125 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.480 talk to you a little bit deeper. So I'm just going to ask a 126 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.879 question. You can each have a chance to respond. I just want to 127 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.960 start from the beginning, at about what age and what occurred when you realized 128 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:52.360 your son was going to be a special athlete? Okay, sure, I 129 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:58.240 mean We're at a basketball game at the y m C A n. A 130 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.440 man came up to me. I was like, your son needs to play 131 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:03.919 football. It's like my son not playing football. He's a basketball player, 132 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.840 because you know I played basketball. I wanted my sons played basketball. And 133 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:13.679 his name was coach Muhammad. He became Elik's coach mentor and from that day 134 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:18.000 on like he's followed Malik and supported Malik, and he saw something in them 135 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:22.200 that I didn't see. And when they say it takes a village, it 136 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:28.759 really does take a village. Everybody has sown into my kids, from my 137 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:33.399 family to their teachers, to their coaches, to the programs that have been 138 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.679 in and so I think you can sometimes you don't notice, but other people 139 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.879 notice for you. And in this case with Malik, I think he noticed 140 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:43.840 what he was going to be. I want him to be a basketball player 141 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.080 even though he still played, but football is really his love. I love 142 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:56.240 it. Lisa, how about you? We had started Darien in soccer when 143 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.480 he was a little boy, and then at seven he said that he wanted 144 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:05.440 to try to join the local youth football program because he liked football a lot. 145 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.399 He also loved basketball, and side note, basketball is actually his favorite 146 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.480 sport. But he excelled at football, but not at seven because at seven 147 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.360 I took him out to sign him up. His dad was at work and 148 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.320 we got there and the whole situation was so overwhelming. He came running off 149 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:24.399 the field and was like, Okay, I don't want to do this, 150 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:28.080 and I was like, neither do I That's fine with me. He ran 151 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:35.519 home and then at age eleven, it all took off. It all took 152 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.120 off from there. I mean he had done you know, he had continued 153 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:43.480 to do soccer from like seven to eleven, karate, baseball, basketball, 154 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:50.799 but once he started football at eleven, that that was it and it stuck. 155 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:54.759 He fell in love with it, and we just knew that that was 156 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.159 going to be where he was going to go all the way through high school. 157 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:05.120 I love that share a yes. Yes, Dylan started playing soccer at 158 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.840 three and he was a beast. He always wanted to be out on the 159 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.759 field and I was Dylan had to wait to turn. Everybody has to get 160 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:20.879 a shot. And then we were we moved to a new city and we 161 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.240 were riding our bikes and we took our bikes through one of the neighborhoods and 162 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:30.039 when we went through the neighborhood, saw these kids playing football and Dylan was 163 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:33.759 like, I want to do that at the age of five, So we 164 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:39.200 signed him up for the youth league. He played flag football and took off 165 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.320 from there. He's been playing, was playing since he was five years old, 166 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.159 and he fell in love with it. Did all the other sports, 167 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:54.320 but football was his his love right there. So the common theme is all 168 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.840 these boys had a ball or something competitive in their hands and once it took 169 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:03.480 off, it never changed. Yes, So I was not an athlete growing 170 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:07.919 up. I think, you know, some moms are and some moms aren't. 171 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.840 When we realized our kids were going to be athletes, I asked Jason, 172 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.799 like, how do I support them? And he said, you need 173 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.399 to get them reading, writing, and running, and I said, well, 174 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.279 reading and writing, I've got covered running. At that point, I 175 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.399 was like, I thought I would die if I ran like too long, 176 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:31.759 Like I never even ran a mile straight. So I got into running and 177 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:37.480 they were obviously my biggest why So that was how I kind of contributed, 178 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.639 and I wanted to ask you whether you were athletes or not yourself, and 179 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:46.200 if you were or you were not, how did that impact your role as 180 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:52.200 their mom in supporting their athletic dreams. Okay, So I was an athlete 181 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.799 growing up. I came from a track family. But when I went to 182 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:58.440 country to day, we had to play three sports, so I did ind 183 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.200 or aldert t. I was like, what am I going to do for 184 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.960 my other sport? So my coach, a Country Day coach Orlando, said 185 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.919 why don't you try basketball? That didn't know anything about basketball, didn't know 186 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:15.080 none of the rules, tried basketball, fell in love with it. So 187 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:19.399 I was an athlete and my parents were very supportive, followed me everywhere, 188 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:23.960 went everywhere with me. So as a parent, I kind of used the 189 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.960 tools that I saw them used with me that worked, and then made some 190 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:33.480 adjustments for this new era of kids. So I tried to let my kids. 191 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.799 It was very hard for me to go to college so because my parents 192 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:41.480 went everywhere with me, so I was homesick and things like that. So 193 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.039 I said that with my kids, when they got old enough, I would 194 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:48.279 let them travel some by themselves or with their team. And then I would 195 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:52.559 go with them sometimes even if they traveled with their team, I would go 196 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.039 and meet them there, but just so they can get that time away from 197 00:16:56.039 --> 00:17:00.480 me, so they wouldn't be real homesick when they leave home. So I 198 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:03.919 just used those two as my father always taught us, to work hard, 199 00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:07.720 give one hundred and ten percent, and whatever you do. I try to 200 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.359 instill that in our kids, and I try to tell them whatever they start, 201 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:17.039 finish and finished strong. And I think those things have stuck with my 202 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:22.440 kids along the way. And athletics and I probably have embarrassed them some because 203 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:26.200 I'm wild at some games, but I've learned as I gotten older to quiet 204 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:30.480 down a little. But I think overall I made some adjustments based on how 205 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:36.799 my parents raised me and being in sports. Love that. How about you, 206 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:42.160 Lisa. I most decidedly was not an athlete at all. Hated pe, 207 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:48.079 didn't like money, none of none of that. This was not good 208 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.559 at it. Uh. My sister and I grew up. Our thing was 209 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:57.200 was music, so we both played violin and piano, so that was sort 210 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:00.119 of what my mother was running behind the two of us with taking us to 211 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:07.599 orchestra rehearsals and private lessons and music camp and all that sort of thing. 212 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:12.279 So we there was there was pretty much no no athletics in my family, 213 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:17.759 my mother, my sister, and me. So this was new. This 214 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:22.200 was brand new. And Darien's dad played football at Virginia Tech, so he 215 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:29.680 of course had the whole background to bring uh to help support Darien. And 216 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:34.519 I viewed my role as sort of like watching, learning, listening and anything 217 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:40.440 my boys wanted to do that was a passion for them, Just getting behind 218 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:42.079 them and seeing where I could help. So being you know, a team 219 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:48.519 parent and providing refreshments and signing people up for different things, or being the 220 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.240 communication parent and providing information, you know, sort of about where we're supposed 221 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:56.279 to be when and all of that sort of thing. So and then learning 222 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.440 the game because I really, you know, I sort of liked football on 223 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.880 the fringes, you could say, because you know, I had like aunts 224 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.839 and uncles and not my mom, but aunts and uncles who were big Washington 225 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:14.559 the big fans of the Washington team, and you know, Thanksgiving we'd be 226 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:18.119 watching the game. So you know, I kind of liked football from afar 227 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.720 but didn't really understand it. So I just made it my business to really 228 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:27.319 sort of understand it, and then it became my thing to if it was 229 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.799 required that I needed to stand in the rain. There was a lot of 230 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:34.079 standing in the rain watching the high school games or the youth games before he 231 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:37.960 got to high school, running from here to there. He was playing basketball 232 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:44.880 too, so just you know, pretty much just running behind them and trying 233 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:49.279 to support them as an involved parent, which went all the way through through 234 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:56.519 college because I was the co lead of the Spartan Football Parents Association will while 235 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.559 he was playing. So whatever I had to do to get behind them on 236 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:04.599 behalf of moms everywhere who receives communications from moms like you, We sure appreciate 237 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:14.599 you your integral to the planning process, Sherry, how about you? Who 238 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:21.160 I come from a very athletic family. My brothers played football, my sister 239 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:26.759 played basketball, my dad played football, my mom played basketball, and I 240 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:33.119 ran track myself in some cross country, but more the speed stirt. So 241 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:41.640 always been a part of sports. Love it and we and our family art. 242 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:48.599 Our family were competitive. We'll even find out a way too, who 243 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:56.440 has the most bags coming from the car, Who wins that Every little thing 244 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.039 is a competition. Darren Darren wants to be the first one to get in 245 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.559 in the bed. I don't under saying that they always run into I'm like, 246 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:11.039 okay, so it's always a competition. Your house sounds yet it's like 247 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.440 ridiculous. So you know, when we were on I just want to share 248 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:21.119 this story when we were on lockdown for those two years, well that that 249 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:23.039 whole ninety days. I'll just say that we had to come up with that 250 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:27.759 family night. Each of one of us had to come up with the something 251 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:34.799 per night. So Raven had the paint idea, Cameron had the yoga, 252 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:41.839 and Darren had picture night, and I had something. It was like a 253 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:48.799 talent show. And Dylan was like everybody has to do his workout. No 254 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:53.519 one wanted to fool with him. It was ridiculous. He was coming up 255 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:57.440 with some things that we're like, what is this? What do you what? 256 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:03.240 We had to do? It's just like every how you turn around, 257 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.440 it's like who cares, No one cares. You gotta work harder, and 258 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:11.559 you would always say that be better. So it was a constant It's constant 259 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:17.680 competition in our house. It's sports all around all. I love it. 260 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:25.119 I love it. So life is never just a perfect trajectory climbing straight up 261 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:26.920 right, especially as a mom of an athlete. In the life of an 262 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:32.119 athlete, there tends to be a lot of ups and downs. That's just 263 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:36.680 how life is. Right, And when they're home and feel discouraged, you 264 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:41.279 can cook them their favorite meal and wrap your arms around them and mama can 265 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:45.599 fix it. One of my son's favorite comfort foods is pean cakes. So 266 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:49.480 shout out to show partner. I hop We're going to pivot to a commercial, 267 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.599 but when we come back, I would like to discuss how do you 268 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:56.400 support your sons from afar now that they're not always under your roof and they're 269 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:02.039 at school. So viewers, please drop your pancakes in the chat, hit 270 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:10.559 a like and subscribe button, and let's roll the commercial. Yes, introducing 271 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:17.079 Ie Hops New Eggs Benedicks. When you take a poached egg added to a 272 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:22.440 crispy English muffin, buy a roasted pablano peppers and shredded beef with our rich 273 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.920 and buttery Hondaise sauce. No, you don't just get our handcrafted New Eggs 274 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:32.440 Benedicts on your plate, you get a smile on your plate. New Eggs 275 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:41.559 Benedicts in four delicious flavors only for my hop and that commercial always makes me 276 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:48.720 hungry. So, ladies, once your babies go off to college, how 277 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.799 do you support your sons when they're discouraged or they're experiencing obstacles and you're not 278 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:59.480 there. I think one thing I do for Malak, he's the only one 279 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.680 that's gone on my house right now. Every day we talk, but on 280 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:10.599 those days that he's discouraged, just giving him either a scripture or an encouraging 281 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.440 quote to say, basically say, I know what you're going through, but 282 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.559 this not gonna last long. It's just like I call him growing pains. 283 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.880 So I tell him it's just a growing pain. We're gonna get through this 284 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.880 together. If he needs me, we'll talk. Sometimes he wants to talk, 285 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:30.319 sometimes he doesn't, and that's okay, And I kind of try to 286 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.599 support him either way to keep them positive and know that you know he's special 287 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.279 and no matter what you're going through, you know at the end of the 288 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.599 day, you're still on the LEAE card. You're a great person, you're 289 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:45.680 a good athlete, and everything will be okay and work itself out at the 290 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:52.880 end. Great advice, Lisa, how about you when Darien was playing, 291 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.160 so when he was a student, trying just trying to keep an ear out 292 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:04.519 for when he seemed to need more than than usual. Darien usually stays pretty 293 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:10.039 even keel, which means that I could tell when something was really bothering him 294 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.559 or when he needed to talk. So I would just kind of prod him 295 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:15.480 and say, seems like something's up, you know, you want to talk 296 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:19.559 about it, And usually I was right and then and and he would want 297 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.839 to talk about it. He would also be very clear if he thought he 298 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:26.440 could handle whatever it is, and then I would just sort of sit back 299 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.839 and let him handle it, but let him know that that if he needed 300 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:36.359 me, we could we could talk about it. We spoke primarily by texts 301 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:40.519 and still do. That's kind of just a fun way that we we stay 302 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:45.640 in touch. And actually with with both my sons, I communicate a lot 303 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.000 with hearts up greenheart for Darien obviously because of ms U and and blue hearts 304 00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:55.400 for Jordan for Yale. So just you know, just sort of those constant 305 00:25:55.440 --> 00:26:00.319 little messages each day to keep them kind of lifted and and just trying to 306 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.720 keep an ear and a heart out two sense, you know, when they 307 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:11.880 might need something. Love that, Sherry. Yes, when Dylan would get 308 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.920 discouraged and in any way, we would talk. We love to laugh. 309 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.000 He and I love to laugh. We love to crack jokes, and so 310 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:29.359 we always just would connect and I'd be like, okay, Dylan, you 311 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:33.279 know, let you I would allow him to talk to me and then we 312 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.240 would just talk, and then we would just okay, let's move on, 313 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:41.680 let's find something else. We'll we'll talking and laugh and we want all We 314 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.079 might even go go out and get some ice cream. He loves ice cream, 315 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.240 so you know, And when he comes back, I'd be like, 316 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.359 let's go, let's go get some ice cream. But as he's away, 317 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:59.759 I always try to send him a message and encouraging him every day to just 318 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.440 space start and be better. Few his own words back in, just be 319 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:10.559 better, whatever you know, whatever you need to do to just calm your 320 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.640 nurse. And we would just the laughing part is what we would do the 321 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:18.400 most, just laugh. We love to laugh. I love that. Yeah. 322 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:23.400 So raising kids can feel all consuming at times, and their world becomes 323 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.599 your world on top of your world. Look at Sherry, she's out of 324 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.359 tracking right now. Right. So the practices and games and extra training and 325 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.599 scrubbing the uniforms and all the things. They say, you're going to miss 326 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.640 this, You're going to want this back right when they go off to college. 327 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.319 I feel like you're probably, I mean, you feel pretty disconnected from 328 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:49.279 that. How did that feel and how did you deal with it? I 329 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.599 didn't get a break because although Malik was gone, I still have four more 330 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:59.160 here. But I remember when we first took Malik off to school, when 331 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.599 we came back to the house, it was just like walking in the house. 332 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.079 Something was different, because Malik's like the light, the life of our 333 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.000 house, the loud one, the one that cracks the jokes, the one 334 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.440 that gets everybody to play in the family games and things like that. So 335 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:18.200 you could feel something was missing. But I get my fixes with him with 336 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:19.519 that. When I go up there, I'll wash his clothes. When I 337 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.200 go to Michigs State, I'll watch his clothes, take him out to dinner, 338 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.759 or you know, do the things that we miss. He might just 339 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:32.000 sit around his apartment and watch a TV show to make sure I'm still staying 340 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:37.200 connected with him. But in my case, it was just like a little 341 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.400 relief at home. But then you miss it from from time to time, 342 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.720 but Malik, being the communicator that he is, he keeps in touch with 343 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.079 me every day, so I enjoyed that piece as well. That's sweet. 344 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.880 Lisa. Well, first of all, I hate it being that far away. 345 00:28:55.160 --> 00:29:02.839 I still do. He's way too far away. Agreed, We're going 346 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.359 to need to make some adjustments. Yeah, how do I get to you 347 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.720 or you know? And I couldn't get to every game either, you know, 348 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.400 whereas with high school obviously I could, and that's what we were used 349 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.799 to like, if your your son had something to do, you were there. 350 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.400 So suddenly there were times that that I couldn't be there and that that 351 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:25.039 was hard when he when he first went off to school, Jordan was still 352 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:30.200 here. Jordan was in eighth grade, so sort of similar to what peg 353 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:36.039 Peggy was saying, there was still things to do around here. But I 354 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.960 will say, like it really hit me. I was kind of fine when 355 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.759 we when we left him there. It was I think it was like July 356 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.400 third, twenty eleven. I pretty much remember the date we left him there, 357 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.839 and I was pretty okay coming home. But then a couple of days 358 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.680 later I went grocery shopping and realized that I did not need to go down 359 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.079 this one particular aisle. It's the isle that has ovaltine, which is one 360 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.799 of his favorite things to drink, like several times a day, and especially 361 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.640 right before bed. And I was like, I went, I went down 362 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.880 the aisle and then was like, oh my god, you don't need to 363 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.880 go down this aisle because you don't need this because he's not here. I'm 364 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:17.519 in the middle of giant grocery store and literally burst. I was like, 365 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:22.200 I don't think I like this very at all. I was not ready to 366 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.200 be an empty nester. And that's that's what my blog was supposed to be 367 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.079 about, Like I was not ready, very reluctant. So we're going to 368 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:36.599 talk about that blog a little bit later. Sherry, Yes, it hasn't 369 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:44.440 really, because still it seemed like he's home all the time. I mean, 370 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.839 no, I don't want I'm not that paint. I want them all 371 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.960 to be around all the time. But it's just the one time though. 372 00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:56.759 At the when he left early the early enrolled and everybody had gone to see 373 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:02.160 him, and he said to me, like every weekend somebody was going up 374 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.039 there. Somebody had seen him, And he said, Mom, do you 375 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:08.440 realize you haven't been up here yet, it had been like six weeks. 376 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.680 But I would see I would still see him, but I hadn't been up 377 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:17.319 to seek. I hadn't been to his place, to his his his thorn, 378 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.759 his daughter, and that that kind of bothered him. And I was 379 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.880 like, you know, I was just trying to step back. It's like, 380 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:33.480 I don't need you to do that. Yeah. So I was trying 381 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:40.599 because because my husband said, if you showed them when Raven left, this 382 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.400 is what he said with Raven. He said, if you show her that 383 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:48.160 you don't want her to leave, she's not going to see So I had 384 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.279 to kind of just kind of step back. And when the same thing with 385 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.799 Dylan, and so that's why I was trying to be like, let me 386 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.359 just be cool. I'll just go into their rules when I feel it. 387 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.480 When i'm I need to see them, and that's what I was trying to 388 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.119 do. But when he said that, that told me it's okay, here, 389 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.839 go ahead, because you see yourself, it's okay, he still needs 390 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:17.200 you. Yeah, yeah, okay, I can do this. It's always 391 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.160 like it's your job to launch them, and you want to know they can 392 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:28.400 launch, but secretly you don't always want them to launch not at all at 393 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:32.440 all. So people have a lot of questions about how to raise kids, 394 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:38.279 right, But on the flip side of raising kids is how the kids actually 395 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:45.559 impact our lives as moms and evolving women. And I'm curious, how has 396 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:52.519 raising athletes made you a better woman? Well, that's a tough one. 397 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:58.119 I think raising athletes have has made me a better woman because they my kids 398 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:04.799 always keep me on my toes there it's with my job, working out, 399 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:08.319 whatever I'm doing. They always keep me on my toes and kind of keep 400 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:15.319 me forced forced me to be organized with the schedule and what I have to 401 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.279 do to get everything done. Because certain things that they want, you know, 402 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.839 my cook My kids like a home cooked meal. When I don't cook, 403 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.279 you know, they think something's wrong. So just making sure I can 404 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.880 provide them the things that they want and they they that they need as athletes. 405 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.559 But I think it kind of keeps it keeps you humble as to when 406 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.480 you see your kids growing up. It keeps you humble as as a as 407 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.799 an athletic mom. It keeps you humble, and you kind of learn as 408 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.559 you as you get older. I can say like when I was younger, 409 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.240 I probably was more aggressive in the stands and things like that, and as 410 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.599 they get older, they just kind of teach you to kind of chill out 411 00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:00.759 and just enjoy the moment. And that's what I'm trying to do a maleak 412 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.880 right now. Sometimes I get allowed in the stands, but I try to 413 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.480 just enjoy the moment, enjoy their time, and like live and live what 414 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:13.639 they're living for them because I've already done it myself, so just seeing them 415 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:20.760 do it brings me joy inside myself. Love that Lisa share. You decide 416 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.239 who wants to go first, next I can, I can jump in. 417 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:29.559 I think one thing is it helped make me more organized, because you have 418 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.000 to be. There's so much to stay on top of and keep track of. 419 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:39.360 So that's that's one thing. But the other is I feel like not 420 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.679 not just daring, like it's it's been the same with theater with Jordan, 421 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:49.199 because they both picked. They both sort of picked these areas that you have 422 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.719 to be out like they have to be out there and they're seen and people 423 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.760 have stuff to say, and you know, you can get like you can 424 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.559 you can like not make it or it might take longer to make it, 425 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.719 or you know, all that sort of thing. And what they've taught me 426 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.800 is that when you care about your passion and when you really really want it, 427 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:14.239 you are willing to just take on things and let them sort of roll 428 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:19.039 off you, which is not anything that I'm good at. Like I feel 429 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.519 everything, I absorb everything, I take everything in. I'm like, yeah, 430 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:28.119 I worry, I stress and all of that. But watching them sort 431 00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.360 of deal with these really sort of high profile kinds of like very exposed kinds 432 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.719 of passions that they have, it's been eye opening for me. And so 433 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.920 I feel like they've they've been teaching me, which has made me I think 434 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:51.280 a better mom. How about you sharing I was I'm glad to hear that 435 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.880 they said they're organized, Lisa and Thanky. I don't see how you can 436 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.000 do it. I'm not organized. I feel like I'm all over the place 437 00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:04.320 all the time. But what what my kids have taught me is that I 438 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.800 need to listen. I listened to them, and they talked to me, 439 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:15.079 and I hear what they're saying and we have our conversation. So and if 440 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:22.079 I'm not listening to them, it hurts them. So it just has taught 441 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:30.239 me to be cognizant. Of what it is that they need their in being 442 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:36.679 athletic, Like like, okay, two years ago, when when Cam couldn't 443 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:42.119 run and I had to listen to her, I had to say, Okay, 444 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.000 you know I really want her to run. Okay, I need to 445 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:52.599 sit back. When Dylan got hurt in the game and the Vikings go Vikings 446 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.320 Viking, mom shout out real quickly. But when he was playing and they 447 00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.559 heard his tip in the game, I had to sit back. You said, 448 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.440 Mom, I have to sit down, and I was like, okay. 449 00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:08.400 So it has fought me to listen in order to be just hear them 450 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:15.960 out and see something different. So that's what I can said. You guys 451 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:22.880 are great so keeping one child on track through high school and school and other 452 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:28.039 hobbies, like one kid is enough, but you all have multiple who are 453 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:35.360 all multiple high achievers. Like how did you balance each of the kids hobbies 454 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:39.239 and gifts and make sure that they all felt supportive, supported? And how 455 00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:45.159 did you make sure everyone felt what they needed and got what they needed. 456 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.880 For me, I think it's we have a really I have a really good 457 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:59.639 support system with my family, sisters, my brothers, but especially our extended 458 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:06.079 family, like their coaches the programs they're in, like the Falcons and Salmi. 459 00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:12.639 Somebody has poured so much into my kids, all the at at Belleville 460 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.639 at Oak Park when when Malik was there, like all the coaches kind of 461 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.480 and and all the support people kind of poured in to my kids. But 462 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.880 what I do is make sure that I recognize that they all are different, 463 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:30.480 they all need something different, and try to provide that. So Malik was 464 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.599 my outgoing kid, so I didn't have to help him with the social piece. 465 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.880 He had that down pad, so he needed more support, you know, 466 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.360 reminded him of how important academics is, and now he has that, 467 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.920 like he understands that piece. And then I have some kids that are more 468 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.320 shy, and I need to I want to show them like you need to 469 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.639 have some social social skills like go out with your friends, do this and 470 00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.880 that. So just recognizing their deficiencies and what they what they're good at, 471 00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.159 and then what they need to improve on and try to help them that way. 472 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.119 But to be honest, like the village when they say it takes the 473 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:12.000 village, I didn't know what that meant growing up, but it really takes 474 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:17.199 a village. Like it's been many nights and days that I've called their coaches 475 00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:24.239 or their teachers, support steth that that poured into my kids because sometimes they 476 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.119 get tired of hear them from their parents. They need to hear a different 477 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:32.679 voice. And I thank god that we had some good people in our lives 478 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.679 and still do that are pouring into our kids and saying the same things that 479 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:42.119 we would say. And so that was important to me to surround them around 480 00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.280 people that would say the same thing that I would say, but give them 481 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:51.480 a different voice and somebody else to talk to. I love that, Lisa. 482 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.199 I think also I agree with Peggy about honoring what your children, you 483 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.400 know, want to do and what interests them. That was sort of the 484 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.639 big thing for us. You know, it was clear early on that Darien 485 00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:08.400 was gonna was going to want to be deeply involved in some manner of athletics. 486 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:14.599 That was that was very clear. Jordan started out doing some you know, 487 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.480 like I think he did, like baseball and soccer. They both did 488 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.119 karate for quite a while, but it was also very clear early on that 489 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.719 Jordan was going to tend more toward the arts and wanted to focus there, 490 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:28.440 and they both also did music for a while. As well. Darian played 491 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.039 saxophone actually all the way through high school, and then Jordan played. Jordan 492 00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:37.079 tried three different instruments, I think, but theater was really what stuck with 493 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:42.159 him and Karate for a little while. It was really a matter of in 494 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.119 terms of making sure they got what they needed, listening to what they had 495 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:50.159 to say. So when they were you know, when one of them would 496 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.360 say, I really don't like this, even if I wanted them, like 497 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.960 I really wanted Jordan to keep playing violin, and Jordan didn't want to keep 498 00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:01.559 playing violin, so you know, to let that go, so you know, 499 00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:06.559 and they were both in Scouts, and they both decided at some point 500 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.239 they were done with Scouts. They didn't want to do that anymore. And 501 00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:15.800 so, you know, I just I think sometimes, you know, especially 502 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.119 I think my generation, we sort of come from the generation of you know, 503 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.800 you should really be directing your children, and you should be making sure 504 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.159 that they get this thing, this thing, this thing, and this thing. 505 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.960 And for me, it really was a matter of what is it that 506 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.599 you love, what is it that you care about, and whatever it is, 507 00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.360 we will get in the car, we will go, we will buy 508 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.199 the equipment, we will get the lessons, we will sign you up for 509 00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:46.440 the theater program, whatever it is. And we also needed the village. 510 00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:53.360 My mother was was front and center, Alan their father, his parents, 511 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.320 and aunt were His mom and aunt were front and center. And then we 512 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:04.480 had neighbors who were into once Darien started playing at Michigan State, because if 513 00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.559 we had to travel and Jordan needed to stay home and couldn't go, you 514 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.199 know, we had really really good friends. Who would take who would keep 515 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:15.079 Jordan because he was only in eighth grade when when Darien first came to MSU, 516 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.519 so I sort of echo the same things that Peggy was talking about with 517 00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:25.320 the village, but also especially just the listening, and that matters so much 518 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.920 because when you see your children in their element, that's all. That's all 519 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:36.480 I've ever needed. When Jordan is on a stage, it's just like when 520 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.880 Darien, like I think it was, I'm trying to remember which game it 521 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:43.119 was, I can't remember, but I have this video of him coming out 522 00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:46.960 leading the linebackers out and he just was like you could see he was in 523 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.920 the zone. He was just bouncing down the sideline as they were getting ready 524 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.079 to do their warm ups, and you know, same thing I just there's 525 00:42:54.119 --> 00:43:02.159 nothing better than that. There really isn't so true about yes, the same 526 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.760 thing. Uh, as far as the village is concerned, we had this. 527 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.880 We have a tight knit group with the starting with the Vikings crew, 528 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:17.360 the guys and their wives. Just the crew has been a big part of 529 00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.599 rearing our kids, all three of them. Even though Dylan was the one, 530 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.280 the football player, they reared all of our kids with us. And 531 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:32.960 we also celebrated. We celebrate everything, and my family we celebrate everything, 532 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:38.280 and we make sure we celebrate. We make sure that we celebrate whatever it 533 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:45.199 is that our kids are doing, we're celebrating it. And just so one 534 00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:49.920 doesn't feel slighted over the other, just so it could be the smallest thing 535 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:55.679 and your tooth came out, we're gonna celebrate it. We're gonna celebrate it. 536 00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.760 And when we had dare friend's mom and his grandma and his aunt blessed 537 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:08.320 their their souls they're no longer here. They made sure they celebrated our kids 538 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:15.360 as well, and it was just always a celebration. And then acknowledging is 539 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.880 this what you want to do, and making sure this is what you want 540 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.239 to do, and listening to them so each of them had their own they 541 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:30.760 I don't think they can tell you right now that we never let them slide 542 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:37.760 on anything and slight it to let them or slighted them on anything. I'm 543 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:45.039 sorry. Yeah, So that's how we made sure everybody was intact. I 544 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:51.280 love it. I love it adjusting the football life from afar like from high 545 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:55.039 school to college. You all have navigated that, Lisa has actually navigated the 546 00:44:55.079 --> 00:45:00.679 next season that you'll all and people in the chat and niece day we'll all 547 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:02.960 have to cross And just saying it out loud is probably make me tear up 548 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.599 again. But when football life is done, it's such an integral part of 549 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.800 your family experience. But when the cleats are hung up and you get to 550 00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:15.960 the other side, do you have any hindsight advice to help us adjust to 551 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.519 that things that worked for you, things that didn't, things that you think 552 00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:25.440 we should try to adjust to, sort of like the parent life post football. 553 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:30.440 Yes, it is. It is a big It's a big change because 554 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:36.239 suddenly, like you're you know, for a hot minute, we thought was 555 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.119 sort of going to continue in the same way for a little bit because he 556 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:46.800 went to Cincinnati, like in the preseason and then didn't make the fifty three 557 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.639 man roster. So you know, for a while we were like, Okay, 558 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.920 well we're still in the middle of this, and then we were like, 559 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.639 okay, we're not really in the middle of this anymore. And it 560 00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:01.760 is it's it's a jolt, but I think recognizing that that it is a 561 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:09.199 huge difference for your son is sort of the bigger thing to to adjust to 562 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:14.079 whatever it is. Whatever the transition is, whether they're they're in the NFL 563 00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.880 or whether they're beginning a career or whatever. It's different. It's not like 564 00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:25.840 the same as being an ms U spartan on campus in college. So I 565 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.679 think sort of being ready for that transition and be so that you can, 566 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:37.119 you know, support your son however and whatever they might need in making that 567 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:42.239 transition, because they've been on this trajectory from like youth, you know, 568 00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.000 most kids like from five to six seven, you know, all the way 569 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:54.719 to to now. And it's a big difference afterward. For me as a 570 00:46:54.760 --> 00:47:01.800 football mom, I think really just sort of staying connected, to staying connected 571 00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:10.800 to other families, maintaining friendships that you made along the way, remaining a 572 00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:15.199 Spartan fan. I mean, I spart your Spartan mom for life like that, 573 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.320 just that just is I'm the games are on, I am right front 574 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:23.480 and center. I will come up for games. And I mean obviously Darien 575 00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:27.840 is on staff, but I mean I would still could be coming up, 576 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.039 I think for games even if he had a job somewhere else. And in 577 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.960 fact I did before he before he was on staff, I was up there 578 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.480 for games. It's just it's such a community. It is such a family, 579 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:46.000 and it spans the generations. And so I just think staying staying connected 580 00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:51.039 and tapped in and acknowledging that you are part of the family, like it's 581 00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:55.440 not it's not over, it's not over afterwards, and then just that being 582 00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:01.800 that support and being aware that it is a big change I think for our 583 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.800 sons. Yeah, I agree, And as that now you know that we 584 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.760 have this resource here, so we hope that all Spartan moms will forever stay 585 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:15.800 in our show, watching the chat and connecting here with other Spartan fans. 586 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:17.960 So you're always welcome here. Yes, your Spartan mom's for life for sure. 587 00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.079 So I want to shift to some fun stuff, if that's okay with 588 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.840 y'all, because I think we've gotten very emotional and it's time to lighten it 589 00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:29.639 up a little bit. I'm going to take a cue from Chu Chu. 590 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:31.920 And we always ask the players. One of the things he loves to ask 591 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.719 is game day, what's in your playlist? And we always talk about like 592 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:43.039 football is a family experience. Game day at our house is exciting. Everybody 593 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.039 walks a little taller, Mom's a little bit more happy. Right, So, 594 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.559 game day, ladies, what are you listening to in the car or 595 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:58.880 in the house to get high? It's okay, go ahead, tell us 596 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:06.719 in mine. Honestly, I'm listening to the fight song. I am obsessed 597 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:12.679 with the with the MSU Martin band, like absolutely obsessed, and every time 598 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:17.519 they come out there from the very beginning with the you know, the the 599 00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.920 drum major coming out of it and doing the little back bend, the whole 600 00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:25.679 thing. So I'm I'm like, seriously, I'm listening to the Spartan to 601 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.039 the MSU Fight Song and trying to do the little routine that I will that 602 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:36.920 I still need to get Olivia to teach me. He was a captain of 603 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:42.280 the cheerleading spot. So yeah, I don't think I have a favorite song. 604 00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.239 It's whatever. Like my kids kind of play whatever when we're on the 605 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.519 way to the Leak's game, and I just kind of listen to their songs. 606 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.400 But since I'm over the since me and my husband are over the Spartan 607 00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:58.440 Football Parent Association, you know, we get excited for meeting the parents there 608 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:02.760 and then we have music playing there and so just we like that part of 609 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:07.480 it, getting to know different parents, have another parents come and to be 610 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:13.280 honest, Malik is a transfer to Michigan State and the parents that we have 611 00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.920 in Michigan State compared to where he came from, even though it was COVID 612 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.920 then, like our parents at Michigan State is something different. And I'm just 613 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.840 being honest, Like they're supportive, they come out, we're like a family, 614 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:31.079 and that's what we like. The home games, the Spartan Football tailgates, 615 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:37.400 all the food and drinks and everything, all the families that come out 616 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:39.599 and just everybody having a good time with their family before we go out to 617 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:51.840 the field, sharing what are the tatums listening to. We listened to listen 618 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.000 to some blues. My husband loves blues, but we listened to house music. 619 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.880 House music gets this hype. But if I must say one song when 620 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.639 I listen when I'm by myself and I'm getting ready for any of my kids, 621 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:22.119 I love Ludacris, move yes loudly, and then I'll see them, 622 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:30.760 and then I'll act like I never even love it. The other thing that 623 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.239 we always ask is where the where the guys like to hang out if they're 624 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.519 gonna go, you know, have a pop or a little you know, 625 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.400 just relax at And let's face it, parents deserve to have fun too. 626 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:45.079 So when you guys are any slancing, if somebody's looking to find you, 627 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:50.159 where are you hanging out at? Tell us the pizza house. I can 628 00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:57.400 answer that one real quick. We're at We're at the pizza house. We 629 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.119 don't i'mna be honest. We're at the games. We don't really have and 630 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:05.679 go as much as this the tailgate and then after the game we're usually with 631 00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:09.119 Malik at his apartment with his friends or whatever. But it's a place that 632 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:13.199 a Spartan I can't remember the name of a place, but the restaurant where 633 00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:17.519 it's a former uh, it's a Spartan football player owns it. A social 634 00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:21.119 place. We like to go there, though I can't remember the name of 635 00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:25.280 it though, Cherry, where the Tatum's at. You're all you are at 636 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:30.960 the barbecue. We're healthy yet, Yeah, we are still learning places. 637 00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:43.719 Yeah we uh h to be loser. She knew it, Cherry, you 638 00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:55.239 knew it. She joined it there up she went back. Somebody is messing 639 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.239 with me. I don't know that. I'm not doing it. Okay, 640 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:06.440 all right, we're still learning. But we have gone back to the tailca 641 00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:10.519 area after the game and hold out and that's been fun. And then we'll 642 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.719 head on back to Farmington Hills. I got you, Peggy. I think 643 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:21.119 the spot you're thinking about is Gregory's, which is always an outstanding spot for 644 00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.519 soul food and music. So shout out to Gregory's and our friends the Chat 645 00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:29.400 who hang out there. Each of you. Really, I can sit here 646 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.440 and talk to you forever. I thank you so much for your time, 647 00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.320 for being honest with us and being open. And I'm getting a notification that 648 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.159 it's time for me to get off the air, so I'm going to turn 649 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:45.800 the show over to the actual professionals. Jason, Otis and ju They would 650 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.199 like to wish you a happy Mother's Day and see you all. Thank you. 651 00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:57.159 This is Yes, it was a lot of fun. Thank you so 652 00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:02.440 much. Happy Mother's Day. Hey, that was the phenomenal show, ladies. 653 00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.639 I mean you guys carry you that very very good. You know, 654 00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:08.679 me and Cody listening to those show, I'm out doing you know, the 655 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:14.000 football dad duties, but I'm outstanding content. I'm gonna have to go back 656 00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.280 and listen to a lot of those tips that you guys brought us because that's 657 00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:22.800 gonna help us all. I mean that that was great. I appreciate all 658 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:24.320 of you doing what you did. And you know, happy Mother's Day, 659 00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:28.320 have a special special week. But every day, like I like what Darien 660 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.000 said, every day is Mother's Day. It really is. But God bless 661 00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:37.719 you all. Thank you, and we love you. Thank you, thank 662 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:39.760 you, thank you so much. Yes, it's a lot of fun. 663 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:44.519 Got a problem, all right, Well you know at this time, I 664 00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:47.239 guess we'll we will let you guys go and uh you enjoy that track meet 665 00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:53.280 bring them home, bring home that championship, all right, we will all 666 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:59.679 right, right, all right, Well, great job at Lisha. That 667 00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:01.840 that was. That was outstanding. You know, I was we were supposed 668 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:07.400 to hold those last those those Happy Mother's Day from your kids like till now. 669 00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.480 But it all came out. It almost messed you up. But I'm 670 00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:14.280 proud of you because you got through it. That was you weren't expecting that 671 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:20.559 at all. Little heads up would have been nice. It was about surprising 672 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:22.559 you, That's what it was, because that's what mothers need, a little 673 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:24.920 bit of that excitement in their life. You know, with all the things 674 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.679 that you do as a mother. Thank you so much for everything you did. 675 00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:30.519 That was a Hey, I gotta watch myself here. You're gonna end 676 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:35.239 up taking my job from me. I'll handle something else, you know, 677 00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:38.840 the other duties not quite as well as you do. Thank you so much. 678 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:45.199 Watching you over the years has helped me out. So I appreciate you. 679 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:51.280 Are we closing out or we is just you know what? Look I 680 00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.119 think jay you look oldest is on assignment right now in Detroit. Jay you 681 00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:59.760 maybe somewhere in east Land scene crawling out of a bar. He is an 682 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.440 a to do it. I'll make sure those guys, you know, do 683 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:07.519 their Mother's Day things next week. I know there's a very special something that 684 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:12.360 Jayu has in store for everybody on Tuesday, and we can go down a 685 00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:15.679 lot of a laundry list of things happening in Michigan State football and athletics. 686 00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:21.679 But until then, you know for Alisha Strayhorn. I'm Jason Strayhorn. This 687 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.920 is part of MSU. Everybody, have a good night, God bless and 688 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:42.159 go green. This is part of MSU as a combined presentation of Playfly Sports 689 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.400 properties in Michigan State sports properties. The show is produced by Pete Manez with 690 00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:52.119 additional support from Tony Costella Operations and Social media support is provided by Alicia Strayhorn 691 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:58.840 with support from Cecily Max Brown on location. 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