WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:06.360 Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. They have their eye on the ball on Tucson 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:12.519 Sports A yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live on the iHeart Radio app. 3 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.880 Hey, welcome back to win the ball general Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Oh 4 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:20.719 Steve, you're Jay, and now we have Henry was breaking news his eye 5 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:26.399 on the ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. Next season 6 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:30.960 will officially be the last season of the NBA on TNP, as the NBA 7 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:36.000 has signed an eleven year deal with Disney, NBC and Amazon Prime to broadcast 8 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:41.240 the games. Did so t Well, I'm just reading the statement by TNT 9 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:47.560 who thinks that Wait a minute, here's here's a statement, because they think 10 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.759 that they because they've matched the They're saying they've matched the Amazon offer so that 11 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:56.719 contractually they should be able to get what Amazon is allegedly getting. Here's their 12 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.799 statement, we have matched Amazon offer as we have a contract right to do, 13 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.640 and do not believe the NBA can reject it, and doing so, 14 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:06.879 they are rejecting the many fans who can do yeah all this stuff like we're 15 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:08.799 great, yeah yeah, but basically saying they say, we think they have 16 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:14.840 grossly misinterpreted our contractual rights with respect to the twenty twenty five twenty twenty sixth 17 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:19.280 season and beyond it. We will take appropriate action, probably sue. We 18 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.359 look forward, however, to another great season of the NBA on TNT and 19 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:29.359 Max including our are iconic inside the NBA. So they're saying that whatever Amazon 20 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:33.519 is getting that TNT should be able to get that. Yeah. Well, 21 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:37.400 if that's the case, Charles, that's a bad marriage. Yeah, they're 22 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:41.200 they're they're fighting, Charles, and in a separate room, Charles is you 23 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.719 know, the disgruntled kid who doesn't want to you know, he wants to 24 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.359 stay, but he doesn't want to stay in Yeah, talking crap about the 25 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.400 parents. So I'm that's funny because I just read this. I said, 26 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.560 Oh, it looks like TNT is staying no. No, they're not so 27 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:57.640 responding. They're responding to this contract that allegedly has been signed. Ah. 28 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:01.120 Interesting. You know what from these big companies get do this and guess who 29 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:06.879 makes all the money The lawyers. Oh yeah, of course the lawyers. 30 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:09.919 Well no, because they usually have their own lawyers. But anyways, interesting 31 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:15.000 stuff, Okay, cool. Red Sox manager Alex Korra has agreed on a 32 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:21.599 three year contract extension for twenty one million dollars with the team. He's still 33 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:27.599 the big cheater. But okay, the Red Sox, you said, Yeah, 34 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:29.560 okay, that's why something. They got their butt hat on to him 35 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:36.680 today. Now the Dodgers swept him. Okay, all right, we're putting 36 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:42.120 a little limit to the Dodger talk. You didn't get the memo. Ellie 37 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.800 de la Cruz stole his fiftieth base of the season today, and he has 38 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:50.120 nineteen more stone bases than any other player in the MLB. Yeah, he's 39 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:53.840 a gazelle a yard today too. He's just he's doing all kinds of crazy 40 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.759 stuff. Yeah, he's he's a different player. There aren't other players like 41 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:01.159 who I mean, just like there's no other players like show him well in 42 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:05.039 a different way. I was gonna throw those names at you. Top top 43 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:12.000 five players today, showy show Hey Dela Cruz, Judge, Aaron Judge, 44 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:19.039 Paul Skeins. What about the Kansas City short stop Bobby with Jr. Yeah, 45 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:22.439 yeah, what about you gotta hit the home runs you Oscar? Yeah, 46 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:23.919 No, he's a good he's a really good player. He's just hot 47 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:30.039 right now. Who else just you know, you show show he's a different 48 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.680 player. What are you things about him that are different? Aaron Judges missing 49 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:39.240 Sodo, Mookie bets and he's a good spot Mookie who can play shortstop, 50 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:43.360 second base, the outfield, hit for power, steel bases, YadA, 51 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:47.280 YadA. And then he's got a broken hand. But still Aaron Rodgers was 52 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:53.039 fine for missing two day mini camp last month as he was in Egypt on 53 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.560 vacation. He was in one of those holes that he does therapy, doing 54 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:03.560 the psychedelic academics stuff. He's crazy, he does this purpose. How did 55 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.719 he get so weird because he wasn't weird like that? Well, because you're 56 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.400 not. When you're young, you're happy to be there. He he he. 57 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:13.840 I remember he won that Super Bowl and I thought, what a great 58 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:15.079 guy. You know, he's the kind of guy that you want to win 59 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.399 a super Bowl. He went on Letterman and he was really funny, and 60 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:24.079 he's and then he just got whack. He's just kind of the smartest guy. 61 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:29.399 Bad Water in Green Bay or you know, psychedelics man going into the 62 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:30.920 forest over there. No Love is doing the same thing. What's it up 63 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:35.399 with the quarterbacks up in Green Bay? Of themselves? Jordan Love hasn't done 64 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:41.759 squat and he's holding out and thinks he should be the highest quarterback. Right. 65 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:46.120 It's like far but you know far, but now rogers are now Love 66 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:53.959 Jordan Love a fifty million dollar quarterback. Come on, no, all right, 67 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:59.639 come on. The Olympic men's soccer started today and France defeated US. 68 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:05.639 A read don't know did you see uh soccer? Was it the girls with 69 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:11.839 the with the the Canada thing with the drone? I guess the I guess 70 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:15.879 the Canada was getting ready to pay somebody Austria, Australia or somebody, and 71 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:19.360 they were spying with them with spine on them, with unusual drones with drones. 72 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:25.360 So they had they fired the Canadian coaches or they quit because they were 73 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.319 they were finding out stuff about their their game plan or something. If you 74 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:32.120 if you, if you google, you wait the Canada coaches being spied on 75 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.879 the Canada. They were spying on the other team. Canada was spying on 76 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.680 New Zealand with the drones, and they the peer saying, well, that's 77 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:43.360 weird, what do the drones doing up here? So they did an investigation 78 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:47.079 found out it was the Canada in Canada and they fired their coaches. Well 79 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.600 that and and then then the equestrian stuff. There's a lot of things going 80 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:57.000 on before the actual event, you know, there's I don't got to go 81 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.279 through. There's a funny conversation that I heard today about about Michigan and their 82 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:05.199 their cheating thing from last year, and it was a point that I hadn't 83 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:11.399 thought of. The fact. Think about the fact that had that not come 84 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.879 out, you know, all the you know, the spying stuff, had 85 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.040 that not come out until after the season was over, after Michigan had won 86 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:21.519 the national championship, how different it would have been, and how different people 87 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:27.680 had thought about the Michigan Championship because they would have thought, you want it 88 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.240 because of that, Whereas because it came out when it did, and then 89 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.040 they still won all those games when they allegedly weren't cheating anymore, that people 90 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:39.439 feel that the championship was way more legitimate than they would have felt if it 91 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:41.959 would have come out afterwards. People would have thought, oh, you want 92 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.720 it because you cheated, whereas they can say, look, okay, we 93 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:47.480 got caught, we didn't cheat anymore, and we still won the thing. 94 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:51.439 So there's no uh, what do you call an asterisk or whatever on the 95 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:54.800 championship. I thought it was a very interesting point that I thought of. 96 00:06:54.920 --> 00:07:00.160 All Right. The WNBA announced a new eleven year media deal today with Disney, 97 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:05.600 Amazon Prime in NBC for around two point two billion dollars. The Caitlin 98 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:10.800 Clark effect, man, you know, eleven years, she's gonna hold up. 99 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:15.120 I guess it'll hold up until she's well, you'd like to think somebody 100 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:16.560 else. You know, they're already talking about this Page Becker's you know, 101 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:21.079 a girl from from Yukon that Arizona actually played against several years ago. That 102 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:25.560 she's like, she's the one that's gonna get all the attention this year, 103 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:30.199 the whole Caitlyn Clark uh treatment this year. And she would have lested, 104 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.079 but she got her. She got hurt, right right, That's all I 105 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:38.800 got. All Right, got a couple more so. Uh. The n 106 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:44.759 C Double A Committee no n C double A coming out of this lawsuit, 107 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.399 you know, the House versus n C double A. Because one of the 108 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:50.000 issues that they've been talking about was roster limits, and so it looks like 109 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:56.800 they're going to propose a roster limit of one oh five one hundred and five, 110 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:03.199 uh from one hundred and twenty, which includes walk ons and stuff like 111 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.360 that, but that you'll be able to give as many scholarships as you want. 112 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:13.680 It's so increasing the eighty five player scholarship two one hundred, and you 113 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:16.920 can do one hundred and five or however manue you want, you want to 114 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.839 keep doing eighty five or whatever, but that that the scholarship limit will go 115 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:22.920 to the one oh five, but the roster limit will drop to one oh 116 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:28.319 five, and that that's expected to be uh expected to pass. So I 117 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.920 don't see how any universe is going to be well, not any smaller. 118 00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:37.200 And then in baseball, where the scholarship limit had been eleven point seven, 119 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:43.879 that the roster and scholarship limit will now be thirty four. So again you 120 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.559 know, they're kind of getting rid of the walk ons, is what they're 121 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.159 doing. Everybody's going to get a scholarship, but now are you going to 122 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:52.240 you know, you're you're not going to have or maybe you just say, 123 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.360 okay, we're gonna you know, you can walk on. We're not giving 124 00:08:54.360 --> 00:09:01.320 you a scholarship, and they or give them a partial Baseball does that they 125 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:03.240 can give as many scholarships as they want. You know, people down at 126 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.279 the end of the roster, you know they might be getting something, whereas 127 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.200 well, you saw that Arizona men's basketball is only gonna have eleven scholarships on 128 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:16.000 their roster this year because that's just how we want it. And everyone talks 129 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.679 about depth. I don't really coach as I used depth. You know, 130 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.759 Sean didn't, Lout, didn't, Tommy doesn't. Yeah, and you saw 131 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.960 my story. I start posting something on my Facebook page. If anybody's a 132 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.159 friend of mine and looks at it, Uh, Philip were reaching it. 133 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.000 Uh ended up at you Max Sell. We've talked about that, right, 134 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:41.519 and he was a little candid about his situation here. Yeah, so let 135 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.200 me get the quote up in my up in my thing. He you know, 136 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.080 he loves it there. They're gonna give him free reign because that's what 137 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.759 he wanted. He wants to shoot and he'll be able to shoot there because 138 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.960 they need somebody like him. And here was the quote I posted, just 139 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.559 end the story. Actually at Arizona and here there's a lot of talented players 140 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:03.799 and just hard sometimes, you know. Uh, I felt differently. I 141 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:09.399 felt I definitely could have played at Arizona. But that's a coach's decision and 142 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:13.320 he's paid for that. That's pretty much it. There you go, and 143 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.720 you could tell, well, he was my breakout guy that we both thought 144 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:18.159 he was. You know, he won the three point shooting contest. You 145 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:22.919 saw that he has a lot of talent and who's the other guys? And 146 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.000 you saw that he could have played too, but there's only a certain amount 147 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.480 of time that you could play. And well, again you look at the 148 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:33.600 roster, who is he gonna play ahead of exact there are some deficiencies, 149 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.840 defensive positions, deficions. So you know, he's I think he's gonna have 150 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.519 a fantastic career because they're gonna let him do what he wants to do. 151 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.759 Here not so much, you know, yeah, I hear you. Yeah. 152 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:46.960 There was also, Oh, Henry, let me ask you a question, 153 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.080 how old your dad? So kind of our wheelhouse? Do we sound 154 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.679 like gold dudes to a young dude like you because we complain and we you 155 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.360 know, get and you know you're just say older, but I wouldn't say 156 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.559 okay. So when your dad talks about stuff like this, do you say, 157 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:11.559 like, dad, shut up? Yeah? I see, so you 158 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.399 kinda do right because you're your dad will be cooler when you're thirty. Yeah, 159 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:18.559 but you know what, that's why because we sound at least when I 160 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.840 was talking about bitching about this and says, I wonder what Henry thinks about 161 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.919 it, he says, God, give me this internship out of here is 162 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:31.039 like being in the room with my dad. I mean, he was complaining 163 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.440 to me today about Lebron holding the flag. He thinks some other athletes should 164 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.919 do it because someone less known so but that was the reasoning, Yeah, 165 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.440 to give them the honor. Right, Yeah, that's kind of that's a 166 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:50.240 jet Henry. Mister, Henry, give us a call, Dad, Henry, 167 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:52.080 Dad, Henry. Yeah, I just want to because because we sound 168 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:56.399 like we're just kind of old dudes talking about stupid stuff. All right, 169 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:58.799 here's the one that Steve Arizona's gonna go to a Rose Bowl and soon. 170 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:05.279 Oh there's a trick to this, there is. The Rose Bowl has requested 171 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.840 and to be left out of the semi final rotation for the college football playoffs. 172 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.720 They just want to be a quarterfinal game played on January one, you 173 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.159 know, because they're six bowls right the new year six are rotating and they 174 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.679 get their turn as being a semi final. They want to They just want 175 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:26.720 to have their game on January one. Stay. They want to stay with 176 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:30.480 their game on January one. They want to stick to the tradition. So 177 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.679 if they're a quarterfinal game every year, all Arizona's got to do is win 178 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.919 the Big Twelve and they could get into they could be in a quarterfinal game 179 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.879 in the Rose Bowl. That's a better shot than they've had for the last 180 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:46.399 thirty years. All I have to do is get Christy Brickley to call me. 181 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:56.279 All I need to do simple the the what's this guy? He's the 182 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.159 what's his name? Laura? Oh, her name Laura Farber, she's a 183 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.559 Rose Bowl Management committee chair just said, quote, we prefer to have a 184 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.799 game on January one. You want to stay who we are. Yees, 185 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.720 they'll be flexible about their starting time, which has been two o'clock, you 186 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:20.600 know, for the sunset and all that kind of stuff. But that Rich 187 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.799 Clark, the CFP executive doctor, said the big pieces are done, but 188 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.120 there's still some finer details to be worked out. But it looks like the 189 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.840 Rose Bowl will just always be a quarterfinal game that'll be played on January one, 190 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.279 which means Arizona, Arizona's chances of getting in the Rose Bowl are better 191 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:41.759 than ever. All I saw her, do you say there was YadA YadA, 192 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.600 YadA YadA. And I can touch it. I can touch it. 193 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:48.879 I can touch it. Maybe I can't. It's right there, stee, 194 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.080 it's right there, touching. I can feel it. I've been sixty five 195 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.440 years. I can feel You're the old lady on Titanic is eighty four years. 196 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:00.639 I can feel it. Okay, last one, because we've got a 197 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:01.960 minute, so we got let's get this one. Okay. If I were 198 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:09.679 to tell you that you could buy Babe Ruth's jersey that he was wearing allegedly 199 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:16.159 wearing during his called shot, which there's even a debate whether he was calling 200 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.840 the shot, how much would you be willing to pay for that? It's 201 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:24.039 up for auction right now? What's what's the price? You throw a number? 202 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:30.360 Thirteen point two million? Yeah? Yeah, what do I know? 203 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:33.080 And and it's it's there's still be there's still bating on it, and there's 204 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:39.320 still and and there have been a couple of a couple of places that have 205 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:43.840 verified, but there's one very respected company that does that verification that said it's 206 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:48.960 not a match, such a baiting. It's still thirteen points. 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Let Arizona Pest Control get rid of 263 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.200 your bad bugs, termites, bees, or rodents. Serving Tucson and Southern 264 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.519 Arizona since nineteen forty seven. Go to azpest dot com to schedule your free 265 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:52.880 evaluation Today. Three Live Honey, iHeartRadio app. This is Eye on the 266 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:59.519 Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacob Salez Hot Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, 267 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.000 welcome back tying the ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve, He's Jay. 268 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:07.599 Now we have a former U of A basketball coach, Scott Thompson now 269 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.960 one of the great guys, a friend of the show, Hawaii coach. 270 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:17.680 I'm doing fun. You've been all over the place and just recently or recently 271 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.720 in Vegas, see you guys. Steve Kerr, how was that? Well, 272 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:25.440 it was nice. It was nice. He invited me up to watch 273 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:30.960 the USA team practice and and so I was there the first couple of days, 274 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:37.200 and it's you know, I've had the experience of being a USA coach 275 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:45.319 years ago and knowing Steve and knowing the staff and so forth. It was 276 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:49.559 just fun to watch because there's so much talent. Let me ask you something, 277 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:53.000 because you know, when you when you see the career that he's had 278 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:56.319 both as a player and then now as a coach. And I's a coaching 279 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.359 the Olympic team. When you were coaching he was like, you know, 280 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:03.359 a little you know, wet behind the years kind of kid. When you 281 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.200 when you got to deal with him over here at Arizona, did you see 282 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.200 something that made you think, you know, he's going to be really good 283 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:18.000 at all these things? Was there anything that you could sense then to what 284 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:26.920 to where he's gotten today? You mean with having eight rings being a definite 285 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:33.319 Hall of Famer, Uh, definitely not. But the success he's had, 286 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:40.839 I mean, I mean, look at what he's accomplished is staggering. And 287 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.799 uh yeah, I mean you talk about a guy that they're not many like 288 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:49.759 him, where there's no one like him, and so yeah, I I 289 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.599 we you know you could. You didn't know that at the time, but 290 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.400 he's always been kind of a special guy. Well. The funny thing is, 291 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.440 and I've said this a number of times on this show and in the 292 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.640 books I've written, Harvey Harvey Mason says, part of the success of the 293 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:07.160 teams back in the day was they played their ass off, not only for 294 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.720 Loot, but they didn't want to disappoint Lut and they didn't want to disappoint 295 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:18.960 Steve. That's interesting, That's that's an interesting call. Steve just he was 296 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:23.920 kind of this natural leader and he was, yeah, he was. But 297 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:29.599 you know when his first few years he was a you know, he was 298 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:33.400 a good shooter and that kind of thing. But it wasn't until that and 299 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.119 and again I talked about this a lot when he blew out his knee on 300 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.960 that USA team I was part of, and and the doc told him he 301 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:48.000 may never play again. And then he came back that that his red shirt 302 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:56.640 senior year. He was just really mature and uh and he was Ludelson's perfect 303 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:02.319 type player. He was a perfect player for Loodoles and style system. You 304 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:11.039 know what's interesting is that, So I'm up there watching practice and mood always 305 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:15.920 had the first fifteen minutes of practice going through you know, these various drills 306 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:22.599 and pivots and different things, three lines at the end of the court, 307 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:30.160 getting up and down the court slowly and going through these different things. Well 308 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:37.119 guess what they did at the practice that I was watching. Steve still does 309 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:42.359 those on each of his practices that goes three lines and the players going through 310 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:48.400 different change of directions and pivots and things like that. And it's really interesting 311 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.000 to see that. Well it would because you know, these guys can do 312 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.839 this stuff in their sleep, right, but yet he feels that it's important 313 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:02.880 to still have them do that. It's an interesting approach. Uh And and 314 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:07.519 I guess it works, right, I agree. I mean, yeah, 315 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.440 it's worked on on all levels. Uh. You know, I don't know 316 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:18.559 what Popovich did and and some of these other coaches that he had coached with, 317 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:23.400 but he still has some of that Loodolfsen Uh you know, the what 318 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:30.079 the whatever lot Loot had which I used when I was coaching and and so 319 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.039 forth. So it was really a special thing. So I won't ask you 320 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:37.200 how old you are, but I know you're older than me and maybe Jay's 321 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.240 age. But for someone like you, do you even get giddy when you're 322 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.000 out watching them? Or what's your thoughts when you're going to watch them? 323 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:56.480 Watch? Watch watch cool guys. Here's here's I'm I'm a Steve, my 324 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:03.119 biggest supporter, and I'm want to support Steve again because of recruiting him. 325 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.039 And like I said, I was there the first one to his room the 326 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.599 night his father was assassinated, and I was to carry him off the floor 327 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.000 in Madrid when he blew out his knee. So I've kind of been there 328 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:21.440 various times. The thing that I view this team, this team has so 329 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:26.839 much talent, and everybody looks at the team like, Okay, you know 330 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.920 what, They're just going to waltz in and blow everybody away. And I 331 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:37.640 just think there's a whole lot of pressure. And I feel for Steve because 332 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:42.039 he's going to be the coach of a team that's supposed to be the gold 333 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.680 medal and if they win, well you're supposed to win. If they don't, 334 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:51.759 everybody's going to blame him, right, And so that that's what I 335 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:57.119 see when I'm out there watching this practice. I thought Lebron was excellent. 336 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:03.319 He was being a real leader, but and I think you have all these 337 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:08.240 egos, Steve and his staff have to manage those right, and the chemistry 338 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:14.680 is going to be so important. But there's so many things that Steve they 339 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:18.920 have to handle. Like he's kind of trying to coach the referees how to 340 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:26.920 be like international referees because these referees have not been NBA referees. They're international 341 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:32.880 referees, so they're going to call things a little bit different and having where 342 00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:37.759 the guys have to be able to accommodate to that, both mentally and ego 343 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.880 wise, so they're just a lot of different things. Is the is the 344 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:47.359 international game still like what it was back when you were with that World championship? 345 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:51.160 I know this thirty years ago, forty years ago almost, but has 346 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.839 the is the game still kind of the same or has it changed? Here's 347 00:25:55.039 --> 00:26:03.920 here's here's my views on this is that I think international game is because all 348 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:10.440 these international teams and these players, these players have grown up playing soccer and 349 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:15.880 so internationally, these guys, you know, we're taught at a young age 350 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:22.559 soccer and soccer is basically, you know, moving without the ball, playing 351 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:29.039 as a team. One guy can't win in soccer. You've got to have 352 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:33.640 a strong team. So you've got to make your teammates better. And I 353 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:40.720 think international teams that's their foundation is playing like that. I think American basketball 354 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:45.160 has unfortunately gotten to where it's one on one, you give me the ball, 355 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:52.039 I'll make some moves and I'll take I'll take it from here type basketball, 356 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.200 individual basketball, and I think that's where the difference. In answer to 357 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:03.839 your question, that's where the difference is that the American teams have to play 358 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:08.119 really good defense and have to play together, and I think that's one of 359 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:14.359 the biggest challenges is you got all these guys out there, and you know 360 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:21.559 what, they got to meld together and play together. And that's the part 361 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:26.559 that's not easy to do in a three week span. So in nineteen ninety 362 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:29.319 I don't know where you were, probably of coaching in Rice or somewhere, 363 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:34.319 but I remember going to a thing in Phoenix with coaches. Talked to Lude, 364 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:38.200 talked to the Cincinnati coach. I've mentioned this a few times on the 365 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:45.440 show Who Got Fired at West Virginia Huggin Huggins, those guys, thank you 366 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.359 guys, and they were and you might have been part of this, going 367 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.440 to overseas to Europe, coaching the guys up in Europe and teaching them how 368 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:57.680 to play basketball, and look what they've created. Yeah. No, but 369 00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:07.039 I think I think television and I again, since since that time, shoot, 370 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.039 and I go all the way back to the seventy two Olympics, when 371 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.960 all of a sudden, people will start saying, you know what, we've 372 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.359 got to start playing our professional teams are professional players. And it didn't happen 373 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:27.440 untill ninety two, but as our television and there was so it went around 374 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:33.240 the world and then these tours, just like you're talking about Steve, where 375 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.799 the coaches were going out and doing clinics and teaching and so forth around the 376 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.920 world. The whole world started getting better and better, and and then these 377 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:49.480 players started getting are really really good. There's some kind of story I saw 378 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:55.160 today. Back in ninety two, there were there may have been I'm going 379 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:59.519 to throw a number at you, ten, ten or twelve NBA players from 380 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.640 from overs back in the day with Dream Team, right, so they had 381 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:07.319 no really big competition although they were really good. Now there's like under sixty 382 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.640 Europeans in the NBA, so that the times have changed. Yeah, and 383 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.839 it's gonna get and it's gonna get better and better. I mean, it's 384 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.279 gonna get more and more again because these players come and they play well together, 385 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:26.440 and they're it's a different and they're not just one on one players, 386 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.039 and so it's a I mean, you're exactly right. I mean, the 387 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:36.160 NBA is gonna change because it's a worldwide game. Yeah, and and and 388 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:40.000 it has I mean, as much as we want to think that you know, 389 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:44.119 this team that's that Steve kurrz got has got, you know, should 390 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.200 win the gold medal, that they've got everybody's got NBA players now and it 391 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.559 and it's you know, look, I'm usually in France, right They've got 392 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.000 Victor Web and Yama, Rudy Gobert and I don't know who else. You 393 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.319 know, Australia is good, Canada is good. All these teams are so 394 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:04.039 good. I think we need to temper ourselves, don't you think? I 395 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.759 think so too. But the thing, and I know Steve is good, 396 00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:14.440 is we used to be able to have down games and still win, right, 397 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.759 she used to have off games and still win. You can't do that 398 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:23.880 anymore. And and that's the part that's the dangerous thing, because if you 399 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.799 don't come ready to play, and you don't have guys playing together. And 400 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.680 again, I look at Steve's situation, and you know he's trying to decide, 401 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.119 Okay, am I gonna substitute or am I gonna play platoon system, 402 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:42.799 you know where you play your five and then the new five comes in and 403 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:49.279 and things like that. All those things are gonna it's gonna it's just gonna 404 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:53.599 be really interesting to see how how he's going to be able to do that. 405 00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.519 Yeah, yeah, no question. In fact, they've struggled a little, 406 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:02.680 at least by our naked over the last week or so. It's funny 407 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.440 we had Steve on maybe six or seven weeks ago, maybe in two months 408 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.680 ago. I joked with him, you know, I've always wanted to be 409 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.359 Steve Kirk for a weekend. And then I said to myself, No, 410 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.920 that's a lot of best to deal with with, you know, Draymond and 411 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:17.920 all the other guys, and now this because every decision you make is probably 412 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.559 the wrong one. Well, you know, when you're at that level he 413 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.759 is, yes, I mean, he's so well respected, but he's supposed 414 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:33.559 to make these you know, just magically make all these right decisions. But 415 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.960 you were right. How would you like to manage Draymond? I mean I 416 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:47.440 was at the Scenic Sun's game the last December when Draymond got kicked out for 417 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.599 throwing that elbow or whatever. After the game, I talked with Steve and 418 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.440 and he was saying, hey, you know what, it's a great day. 419 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.079 You know, I'm a coach in the NBA, and just trying to 420 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:07.680 be as positive and as he could be and so forth, in a difficult 421 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:12.640 situation. I know, and so and not. You know, Steve's one 422 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.920 of those you just learned not to make too big of a situation out of 423 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:24.440 anything, right, except that he talked about them disco disco, turn off 424 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:30.160 that music. I love love real quick. We've been talking about this for 425 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.400 a while, this whole ninety minutes of the show. Tell him about the 426 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.279 Stoops things. Yeah, so Scott so Mark Stoops. Uh. He's coach 427 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.880 at Kentucky, coached assistant coach here for a number of years with his brother 428 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:47.559 Mike. He was complaining at SEC media day today, but how hard it 429 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:51.240 is, and it's tough, and all I do is have to raise money. 430 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.599 I hardly get to coach. And he's just griping about what had football 431 00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.559 coaches have to do now? And then the kicker he's making nine million dollars 432 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.519 a year doing it, and so people are like all over him saying, 433 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.640 look, you you're making nine million bucks a year. Suck it up. 434 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.839 I mean, I mean, I get it. It's hard to be a 435 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.880 coach now with all the other stuff you got to do, But you know 436 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.599 the money's there. Is there for a reason, right, Yeah. Well, 437 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.319 I think the biggest thing in this is college and this is for another 438 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:31.279 conversation, but college sports has changed this last year so much A year from 439 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:36.640 now, it's going to be so much change. I mean, these changes 440 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:44.960 are happening to where now the game has gone beyond just coaching and used to 441 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:51.599 recruit, well, now it is fundraising and and doing all of the nil 442 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:57.200 stuff and all of the I mean, it's the college coaches. It's it's 443 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:01.039 so much better. And this is my view, so much it's easier being 444 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:12.159 a pro coach than college now because college has added so many other things where 445 00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:16.760 you've got to worry about all kinds of other things as opposed to just coaching. 446 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.639 You've got a lot of other things on your plate. So, I 447 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.440 mean, I know what you exactly what you're saying. He is being paid 448 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:30.639 all this money and whatever. He's basically saying, you know what, it's 449 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.519 just a harder job than it used to be. And so without questions, 450 00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:40.960 and then we hear that Texas Tech Picture is going to be paid one million 451 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:47.679 dollars a little over one million dollars in il deal and it's just starting. 452 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.079 And again, who do you think is going to have the better teams? 453 00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:01.079 The ones that have big nil money are the ones don't, right? And 454 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.199 and then is that how college sports is supposed to be. How well, 455 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.280 how would you have handled how would you You're a mild mannered guy, you're 456 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:14.000 a good coach, but I know you're probably glad you're out of it, 457 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:24.239 But how would you have handled this stuff? You got a minute? No, 458 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.400 no, you know what it is. You're gonna see lots more turnover, 459 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:37.599 lots more turnover of coaches just because there's going to be left patients with 460 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:45.519 with coaches and and so forth. And uh, I you here, you'd 461 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:51.920 have to be able to have here's what's happening with college coaches. They're becoming, 462 00:35:52.719 --> 00:36:00.599 uh where you're kind of the CEO of of a organization and you've got 463 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.199 to have your fundraising going on, you've got to have your recruiting going on. 464 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.679 You've got to have dealing with the university. I mean, how about 465 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:13.960 that. Yeah, I mean that's a whole another because the university, you're 466 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:19.400 part of the university. So you've got academics, and you've got Title nine, 467 00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.599 and you've got all these different things that you have to deal with. 468 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.920 It's part of the university that regular. I mean, if you're an NBA 469 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.400 or NFL, you don't have to deal with you don't have to deal with 470 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:35.639 fundraising. You don't have to deal with all these other things and having your 471 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.679 players be academically ineligible. But when was the last time you heard somebody being 472 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:45.400 academically ineligible? You don't hear about it anymore. But at the end of 473 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.239 the day, Scott will leave you with this. Every month, there's a 474 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:54.480 check for one point two million dollars. Everyone, I've got my little violin 475 00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:00.360 out break. Thanks coach, Yeah, thanks coach. Okay, appreciate it, 476 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.719 Scott, thank you, great to visit what you got here. Thank 477 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:07.400 you, mam, thank you. Hey, I just got the word to 478 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.480 have your said you guys. Unfortunately have been interrupted a couple of times because 479 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.760 of thunderstorm mornings, flash floods there. We had no windows here, so 480 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.840 we have enough idea what's going on. We're going to go out to My 481 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.800 car is still on its four wheels. I hope my roof is holding though, 482 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.840 exactly all right, we'll take our last break, we'll come back. 483 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.320 It's our last break of the week, So this is our last show of 484 00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:30.960 the week. So if you want to get in and talk about any of 485 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.239 this stuff, now's the time. Five two zero four one six seventy four 486 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:38.679 forty We're going to have about twelve thirteen minutes to talk about whatever you want 487 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.440 to talk about, and again last one of the week, so I'll stick 488 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.599 around. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful 489 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.239 for nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the Ludelsen era in 490 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.880 my new book, Lessons from Loot. It was a labor of love through 491 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.559 the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight 492 00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.559 to the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, and 493 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:02.079 inspired them. 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We want 519 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.199 you to join the Action eighteam Off is a fun and exciting opportunity to work 520 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:05.800 in the sports and entertainment industry, with flexible schedules that are perfect for those 521 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.119 looking for a part time job or a second income. Come be a part 522 00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:14.079 of a winning team the A team apply online today at a Team security dot 523 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:22.039 net breaking down all the exes at alls. It's Steve Lamara and Jagen Salvins. 524 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.880 This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, 525 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.639 welcome back, joining the ball hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve here, 526 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.079 Jay. We have Henry with us, thirteen minutes left for the week. 527 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.280 You want to call us please due five two o six five two four 528 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.800 one six thirty four forty. I was gonna give you a sell them. 529 00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.920 Don't call me. Don't call you. You know, I was, you 530 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.719 know, thinking about Scott Thompson. The question I asked him about Steve Curling, 531 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.599 What what did you see? Right? Uh? And I get you're 532 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.400 not going to see that he's going to be a six treme NBA champion, 533 00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.920 you know, coach and all that stuff, But there are certain things you 534 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:00.280 had to see, no question, right. And I remember, you know, 535 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.360 I tell you that. You know, the first year I covered basketball 536 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.360 was eighty six eighty seven season, which was the year that he sat. 537 00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.599 Yeah, okay, but he was on all the trips. Yeah, you 538 00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:15.320 know, he was a practice, He was around all the time. I 539 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:21.840 feel like that year of him sitting on the bench and watching all this and 540 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.559 watching this team, which was very immature team, I'll just put it that 541 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.320 way. First of all, I just looked up the rash. There was 542 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:31.400 one senior on it and it was Bruce Fraser. Okay, so he didn't 543 00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.840 you know, he didn't play a ton, but all the guys who played, 544 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:39.000 none of them were were seniors. And him, I think him sitting 545 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:44.639 on the bench may have helped set him up for what he's doing now because 546 00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:46.079 he got to watch from the sidelines. He got to watch Luke coach, 547 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:50.960 and he got to watch coach a team that was had a lot of issues. 548 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.719 Yeah, you know, well this may be stupid, but I think 549 00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:59.239 we've said this before. Had he not gotten hurt, the trajectory of the 550 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.480 better about squall would totally be different. It would be totally different. Yeah, 551 00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:07.239 But that that year, you know, that was the team that you 552 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.280 know, Sean Elliott was a Fred was a sophomore, Anthony Cook was a 553 00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.559 sophomore, Kenny Lofton was a sophomore. You know, guys like Joe Turner, 554 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:20.280 you know was Joe Turner was a junior. Craig McMillan was, you 555 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:25.119 know, was a junior. That team it came together that year during that 556 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.039 time, and Steve was there and I think he was a big part of 557 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:34.719 that and and may have done a lot of things that a coach would have 558 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.400 done. You know, I've told you the story that you know, the 559 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.199 time they got the hell beat out of him at U C l A. 560 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.679 And after the game, I ran into him in the elevator and it was 561 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:49.400 just me and him and and uh and they just were awful. They were 562 00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.800 just awful. And I said, Steve, what the hell something like that 563 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.679 like, and he was just he was just pissed. He was mad that 564 00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:59.599 they had played the way they played and and he he that was where he 565 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.840 reference and Pete Williams and said, this team needs somebody like a Pete Williams 566 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.920 who gets on the court and just plays mad. And and he was seeing 567 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.119 those things right as a as a college well he was. He was in 568 00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.360 his fourth year of concert. He was a college senior. But he was 569 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:22.719 seeing those things that to me, as I think about it later, those 570 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.679 are the kinds of things that I think are wife. Steve has been so 571 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.760 good in his career, both as a player in the Cup. Well, 572 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:32.360 he what makes him special. He's a people person. He understand understands them. 573 00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:37.159 He understands them, and he's dynamic with their personality. He knows how 574 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.880 to deal with Come on, you have to be you have to be free 575 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.760 to deal with the teams that he's coached. Yeah. Right. It's funny 576 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.360 about four or five years ago, I was with a group of people and 577 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.119 the guy says, well, I could do it because I could coach do 578 00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.079 what Steve's doing. Look at all the talent it is. It doesn't work 579 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.559 that way. It doesn't work that you have to deal with the Beagles you 580 00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.679 have to deal with the egos and make sure everyone's happy or tried to right. 581 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:02.519 And here's the here's the kind of a weird example. Okay too, 582 00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:07.800 because on the one hand, he was the he was the grown up on 583 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.960 the team in nineteen eighty eight, he was the grow He and Craig mcpill 584 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.199 were like the two norths. Craig said four words, right, so he 585 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.719 really you know, well, Craig was sort of a lead by example kind 586 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:21.320 of guy. He wasn't a raw rock guy. He you know, he 587 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:28.760 never he never talked Steve for the example I was gonna use. And this 588 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.920 was the year before. We were on the plane too, and we used 589 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.159 to fly with the team in these flight commercials. We would fly with them. 590 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.679 We were on the flight to to they played at Illinois in January of 591 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:45.239 that year, long flight from Tucson to there. And on the one hand, 592 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:46.079 he was sort of the grown up in the room. But on the 593 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:50.199 other hand, there were times when he was a kid just like the rest 594 00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:54.079 of them. And I think that's where players maybe got a little bit of 595 00:44:54.199 --> 00:45:00.039 a respect for him, an attachment to him, because on the one and 596 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:01.440 they felt like he was one of them, but on the other hand, 597 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:05.920 as you said, you know, Harvey Mason said, we didn't want to 598 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.599 disappoint him, So he was at on the one hand, you know, 599 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:10.639 one of them, but on the other hand, the father figure in the 600 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.519 show. I think different stages of his career. Two. I don't know 601 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.119 if you remember this, but Eddie and Eddie h Pete uh talked about him 602 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.760 seeing him because they were he came on the scene and he was they're playing 603 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:27.000 in the gym blah blah blah, and the ball rolled on the sidelines. 604 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.920 He was not playing with the guys yet. He just come on to the 605 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.320 campus. He got them and it was like on on the side side of 606 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:35.559 the sideline out he picked it up and he shot it. Of course it 607 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.679 went in from not not a short disk right and and Pete still remembers that, 608 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.559 saying, and that's the guy we saw for the rest of his career, 609 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.639 just a guy who can shoot the shots. And Thompson says it perfectly. 610 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.840 He was. He was perfect for for for lout, for loot and 611 00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.199 the funny stuff. I know you haven't read my book. You up when 612 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:58.280 he was when he was being recruited, Bobby and and Luke went to go 613 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.880 see him, right, yeah, because I had that part. It was 614 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:05.079 and so what did she say, You're gonna get this guy? The guy 615 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:10.480 can't play it. He's just not good enough. Short, his shot was 616 00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:15.079 awkward, he was gonna get it blocked or whatever, and they brought him 617 00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.760 in. The rest is history, and the rest is history. And then 618 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:25.239 you know, again, six NBA Championships or five five rings rings as a 619 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.400 player, and then total and then a bunch of the coach. But yeah, 620 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.119 you know, so there are times when you do see that. But 621 00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:34.920 he was you know again, he was a kid, right, he was. 622 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.920 He was Henry's age. Holy cow. Yeah, well all our careers 623 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.559 genery compared to her, you know. But but I think one of the 624 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:49.199 things that that again talking about what you saw, is that he I don't 625 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.119 think he's ever and when he's come on the show even he's ever thought of 626 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:59.880 himself as this figure. Right. He's a normal dude. Yeah, he 627 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.960 he's a normal dude. He's a bob down, he's he's a dirt bags 628 00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:06.320 dude. Yeah, he's just you know, I've told you about the day 629 00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.800 that I did sort of my preseason. It was about the season about to 630 00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:12.559 start. We did my Okay, he's a senior. He's leading the team, 631 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.079 Hadi YadA, and so he did the all encompassing thing. I got 632 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.320 to go spend an afternoon with him. But I picked him up at McHale 633 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.760 after a practice, and he had a bike. He had this beat up 634 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.960 bike that he rode to practice. And you know, he didn't have a 635 00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:29.159 fancy car and you know all this stuff. He had this beat up bike 636 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.000 that he rode to practice. He lived over there in what he used to 637 00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:36.599 be in elementary school on Park and Speedway behind the circle k there and there's 638 00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.639 okay there now there's a it used to be a school and now and they 639 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.320 made it into apartments and that's where he lived with Bruce Fraser, and he 640 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.000 would ride from there to campus every day. And and that day we threw 641 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.920 his bike in the back of my car and I gave him a ride and 642 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.960 we went and got a sandwich and went to his apartment. But he was 643 00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:57.320 just kind of like, I'm just a guy, you know. Well here's 644 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.320 I think I said this on the show too while back. How do you 645 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.519 know? They asked me, how do you know the kids are how they 646 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.639 are? If you have good parents? If you have good parents, you're 647 00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:09.400 good kids. You have good kids, you raised good kids. He was 648 00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.079 obviously one of those, one of those. Luke was one of those because 649 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.400 Susy and Bill did great jobs with their kids. They're not they're not ego 650 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:21.159 driven there, They're just people. Sean Elliott, Sean and and and his 651 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.000 parents just guys. The influence that his mom had on him, all that, 652 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:29.199 all those times, right right, right right, and that's why those 653 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:31.159 are those guys. And then you have other guys who are paying the next 654 00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.400 who don't give a crap and have egos and whatever. And I've met those 655 00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:38.000 guys too, We've we've met all of them. And it was actually at 656 00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:43.960 the end of Luton's career the demise of because the times had changed, you 657 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.440 got older, and there are guys that kind of tested him, the tested 658 00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.599 him, right, The Steve Kurz and the L's were fewer and far between. 659 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.920 Now we're talking about talent, you're talking about the type of people were 660 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:58.639 you know, because of you know, the way you know, aau Ball 661 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:02.440 and all that stuff developed. Yeah, said, those kids just came up 662 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.880 and nobody ever told them other other than you're great, and that's all they 663 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:09.159 ever heard. That's part of the problem because they get here and they have 664 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:13.159 to kind of be reprogrammed. You're not in you're in the system. And 665 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:17.599 it doesn't surprise me that Steve uses some of those methods of loot. It's 666 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.760 fascinating to me that he's got you know, Kevin Durant and and Lebron and 667 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:27.239 out there and he's doing you know, dribbling drills and those kinds of things, 668 00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.440 and that they're doing it. Yeah, right, that they're doing it 669 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.400 and don't and don't seem to have a problem doing it well, you know, 670 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.559 because they they listen to the coach. Sure, sure, you know, 671 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.760 I mean, does Katie really want to do that stuff? But if 672 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:44.079 all the other guys are doing it and the press, you know, there's 673 00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:49.239 the peer pressure to do that and be a team player. That's what he 674 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.360 gets these guys to do. One of the things about him too, you 675 00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.880 know, he had his camp here, very bright dude. By the end 676 00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:59.559 the boy and I did those stories where he had like a hundred kids by 677 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.400 the end the first day, he would know the first names of all the 678 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.280 kids. I mean, come on, we have a hard time remember yesterday's 679 00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.360 no he he still knows my son Adams. Yeah, and Probaly would see 680 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.079 him like that, you know Adam. And then when I covered him in 681 00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.119 ninety seven when he hit the game six shot, did a big story. 682 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.840 Talking to Margo, he's kind of tight and he's made all the study. 683 00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.880 He still never cast those checks he was he wasn't spending that money he was 684 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.440 making with the US because he had money. Yeah, he had money. 685 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:29.000 I was not using that money, right. She said, Oh, that's 686 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.039 just who he is, and she dated him since college. Yeah, yeah, 687 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:36.039 no, yeah, it's it's it's yeah, he's a fascinating story. 688 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:37.639 I mean, he really is well continues to be. Yeah. I mean 689 00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:45.639 today, who's more famous than him in Arizona Lums, nobody, nobody a 690 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.199 second Yeah, yeah, Uni Fish, Jenny Finch, Sean Sean all baffort 691 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.519 used to be not anymore. Yeah, it's Steve's kerr. No, it's 692 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:58.119 not you say you you say to somebody just friend for you say name me 693 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.119 an athlete from Arizona today today? Today? Yeah, you say today, 694 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.559 nameing somebody you know that went an athlete or somebody in sports that went to 695 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:08.480 Ari Zone. Who was it? And yeah, you're right, Steve Carr 696 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:12.480 is going to be the top of the list, They might say, somebody 697 00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:16.079 like uh, Mike Baby, Sean Elliott. Yeah, yeah, but not 698 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:21.199 today. Back in the day it was so Jenny Richard. Richard might be 699 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.239 another one because he's so visible on in media, but it's probably Steve Richard. 700 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.960 Maybe even pinched now baffort used to be completed. He was in there 701 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:36.599 winning the triple crowns. No, yeah, it's it's it's Teddy Bruski, 702 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:40.760 Teddy Bruski. Yeah, gronk, gronk, those kind of five ish because 703 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.239 you're still out there a good show. We put together something. We bitched 704 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:50.159 a lot in the First Tower. We didn't bitch Mark Steuth's bitching and we're 705 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.360 talking. Yeah, we were bitching about Mark Steuth's bitching. Okay, yeah, 706 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.400 thank it's Mark top of Let's get through the first Tower. Thanks Henry 707 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.960 for not making us look old. A million dollars to pitch softball. Steve 708 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:07.920 I asked to who's our intrin history, Bryan, how old's old? How's 709 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.599 old? What's old to you? Seventy oh, look at that listening to 710 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.639 the show yesterday, No, seventy he said, seventy two. Because some 711 00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:24.280 people I thought, maybe say fifty, that's me. I know those people, 712 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:28.000 seventy years old. Seventy old. Okay, we're not there. My 713 00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:34.239 three brothers are all day. We're not there yet. I was making fun 714 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:38.360 of day, and I was realizing all three of my older brothers have handicap 715 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:43.880 plates. Oh really yeah, and that's scary. Next, I don't want 716 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.719 to have one. I don't want to once you get parking close to the 717 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:52.079 any one of those, any one of those, they're all we've got canes 718 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:53.599 and stuff. It's like, man, thank you, Henry, thank you 719 00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:55.880 for today. Henry. Hey, nice job, Henry. Appreciate it. 720 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.480 All right, last show of the week. We're not going to be here 721 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.880 tomorrow and Friday. I'll be back with the show on Monday. Steve will 722 00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.559 still be out, but he'll be here Tuesday. We'll have a Crepit press 723 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:07.679 conference with Brent Brennant on Tuesday, so we'll see what he's got to say 724 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:12.480 as they get started with practice. So we will see you on Monday. 725 00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:13.239 Thanks for being here.