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Hey, everybody, Jay Widener,
Reality Jacket like and subscribe and all that,

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and I kind of a special show
today, kind of out of the

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unusual because I have as my guest
writer Lee, who is most famous for

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directing jfk X Solving the Crime of
the Century. Hey, writer, how

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you doing? How's it going?
Ja? And honor and a privilege to

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be with you here today and my
friend thanks for having me on. Yeah.

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So back when we were making jfk
X, I remember having dinner with

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you or something, and I said
something like, expect some weird stuff to

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occur after the film comes out.
And I couldn't tell you what because I

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didn't know what, but I just
knew that this was going to elicit that

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film was going to elicit some kind
of weird response. So the film went

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up on am is, on Prime
and a few other platforms on July eleventh.

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On September tenth, almost exactly three
months later, is the announcement or

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I guess, the interview in the
New York Times of the secret Service agent

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who was supposedly writing on the foot
of the car behind jfk who we really

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can't see in disaboter film at all. And now I'm gonna, in fact,

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i'm gonna get to this. I'm
gonna read this article, at least

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some of it from the Daily Mail. Secret Service. Go ahead. Yeah,

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it's really interesting that after sixty years, this gentleman, Paul Landis just

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now decides to come out about his
involvement with the magic bullet. It's really

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interesting timing. And like you said, and like you mentioned, we said

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on several interviews that there's going to
be more evidence that's going to be coming

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out up until the sixtieth anniversary,
which happens this November. And yeah,

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I think that Paul Landis should be
prosecuted. That's just what I think.

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Is going to completely agree. So
let me go through this and then we

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get into that because I think he
should be prosecuted. I guess there's what

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do you call it, the length
of time or whatever, but still there,

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it's really disturbing and it's well,
let's just let's let me just read

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this for anybody who doesn't really know
what's going on. A former Secret Service

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agent was President President at President Kennedy's
assassination has come forward with a new claim

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that would debunk the magic bullet theory
and Rais's question about whether there was a

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second shooter. Paul land This eighty
eight broke his silence on Saturday, at

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nearly sixty years after Kennedy was shot
dead in a motor passing through Dallas,

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to share his bombshell recollection with The
New York Times. Landis, who in

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sixty three was a young Secret Service
agent assigned to protect First Lady Jackie Kennedy,

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said that in the chaos following the
shooting, he picked up a nearly

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pristine bullet sitting on the back seat
of the open limousine, which means it

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had to have been at the hospital
because we know it drove away who was

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just behind where Kennedy was. It
was just behind where Kennedy was sitting when

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he was killed, he says.
Landis said he took the projectile and placed

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it on the President's hospital stretcher to
preserve it for the autopsy investigators. That

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bullet, the first piece of evidence
logged in the murder investigation, has for

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six decades, been said to have
been found on the stretcher of Texas Governor

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John Connolly and hypotheized that to have
fallen from a wound to his thigh Landis

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thinks the bullet may have rolled on
too Connelly stretcher from Kennedy's while they were

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next to each other. That's a
stretch his long been known as the magic

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bullet. The bullet that supposedly passed
through Kennedy's neck from the rear, then

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entered Connolly's right shoulder, struck his
rib, exited under his right nipple,

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passed through his right wrist, and
hit his left eye. Yeah, but

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Land's assertion that had been actually exited
Kennedy in his Cadillac could lay waste to

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the magic bullet theory and bolted the
claimant. Lee Harvey Oswald did not operate

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alone, and we have some photographs
and according to the Warrant Commission, Kennedy

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was killed by alone got even Lee
Harvey Oswald, who fired three shots at

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the Motorcade from sixth floor of the
Texas Book with a six point five millimeter

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Man Liquor Carcano rifle. According to
the report, one of the shots mister

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Motorcade, another was the magic bullet, stroke both Kennedy and Connolly, and

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the final round fatally struck Kennedy in
the head. Now Landa says he believes

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the bullet he retrieved from the limo
may have been under charged and dislodged from

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a shallow wound in the President's back
falling back onto the limousine seat when the

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fatal shot hit his head. He
theorizes that after he placed the bullet on

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Kennedy stretcher, it may have fallen
onto Connolly stretcher when they were jostled together.

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Is also possible at the hospital staffer
who found the bullet and handed it

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over the Secret Service misidentified which stretcher
it came from, or that his account

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was mangled by investigators. The bullet
which had been fired was nearly fully a

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technical It was fully intact. That
is, bs there was not a scratch

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or a chunk of anything missing from
that bullet was possibly matched to Oswald's man

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liquor carcano through ballistics analysis, But
if Landis's claim is true, that's adjust

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a bullet tagged as evidence Q one
was not responsible for the injuries to Connolly

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and there was no so called magic
bullet. Almost done here. James Robinot,

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an attorney and historian, I'd like
to find out what his reel background

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is, who worked with Landis on
a book he plans to release in October.

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Believes the new accounts suggest the possibility
of multiple shooters. If what he

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says is true, which I tend
to believe, it's likely to reopen the

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question of a second shooter. If
not even more, If the bullet we

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know is the magic or pristine bullet
stopped in President Kennedy's back, it means

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that the central thesis of the Warren
Commission, the single bullet theory, is

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wrong. The infamous the Bruder film
shows that there was roughly a second between

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the physical reaction of Kennedy and Connolly
to being shot. Yes, there was,

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let me show that in the film. Yeah, we show that in

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the film. All right, So
I look an worry anymore with it.

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But basically he's saying, Uh,
this agent is saying that he heard the

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shots, So I heard the shots. So what this is looking like is

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and I don't know any about this
guy, what his background is anymore.

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He quit right a few months afterwards
after the assassination, he quit the Secret

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Service. But this looks like a
just an attempt to discredit our film,

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is what I'm thinking, And that
it doesn't really discredit our film though,

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it just throws more garbage into the
heap to confuse everybody and everything. Because

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here's the thing about the bullet.
It had no blood on it unless he

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wiped the blood. He's not telling
us if he did. He destroy evidence.

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You know, he planted evidence,
so he might as well have destroyed

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evidence as well. I mean,
years without telling anybody that you put a

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bullet on the stretcher with JFK.
How is that even possible. The dude

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should be prosecuted for tampering with evidence
and for obstruction of a crime scene.

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Absolutely, there's about ten crimes this
guy committed and they're not talking about any

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of that. How unbelievable it is
that he would find evidence the bullet that

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may or may not. It's not
his job to figure out if that bullet

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killed Kennedy or not. And it's
not his job to speculate that it came

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out of his back. He doesn't
know any of that. This is the

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raw speculation. The real point is
is that there was no damage to that

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bullet and there was no blood on
that bullet, all right, So I

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would say that he was involved and
as he planted the bullet and he walked

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into the hospital with this pristine six
point five millimeter and dropped it on maybe

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even the wrong stretcher, we don't
know. And he was Jackie's probably one

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of Jackie's top secret service agents.
So he actually worked with the family.

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He went to Greece in October of
nineteen sixty three with Jackie while she visited

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Aristotle Onassis, her soon to be
husband. Right, he was there the

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whole time. He actually babysat the
kids on the island with her. I

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looked into his background. He was
very familiar with the family. He ate

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dinners with them. And then you
know, he quits just a few months

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after the incident, right, which
is kind of strange that you're twenty eight

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years old and you worked your but
to get to this position, and why

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would you quit? And that's very
strange too. And and I can't say

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this is all speculation. I don't
know, but I know that there are

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three months is more than enough time
to write a book. I know that

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I ghost written many books in my
life, and I've written books in sixty

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days. If I've already got the
plot, I know exactly where everything is

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going. It's really just a rudimentary, like a carpentry job. It's just

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putting the two by fours up and
getting it all done so it's easy.

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These intel agencies have reams of riders
working for them, putting out counter info,

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counter info and so. And also, if this is true and he

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did plant the bullet, then that
means that the Warren Commission's investigation is even

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more botched than what we showed in
JFKX Solving the Crime of the Century.

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We already showed you that the Bruder
film has been altered several times. And

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if this is true in him saying
that he planted this bullet, and that

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bullet was basically the whole where the
whole theory came came from. So if

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the bullet is planted, then that
means that the Warn't commissions whole theory of

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what happened is even more wrong than
we originally thought that it was. And

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he sat on it the whole time. That's even more incredible to sit on

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that kind of information. That bullet
shouldn't have been touched. He should have

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called in the FBI, they would
have come in. They would not touched

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that bullet had probably had it could
have had fingerprints on it. You don't

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know. He just completely botched the
outside of the brewer, from the single

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most important piece of evidence in the
whole Kennedy assassination is now just called into

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question on everything. And I personally
believe that this is a counter offensive to

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the film. I really do.
I've seen this happen before, and I'm

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going to bet I'll buy the book
when it comes out in October. I'll

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bet it's really rushed. I bet
the the writing job is a really rushed

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job, which will be the indication
that this was a major freak out that

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started probably on July twelfth, twenty
twenty three, as they all ran for

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cover because they just don't want it
all to come out. And it is

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going to come out, but in
some ways, you know, first off,

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I don't believe his story that he
found it on the seat. I

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don't. I don't believe his story
at all. I believe that he somehow

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he just planted it because first off, when did he see it. He's

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not really very clear as to when
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possibly seen it in the zu Bruder
film that he isn't anywhere around. So

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yeah, the only secret service stage
and we see in the Zubruter film is

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Clint hill. Yeah, clinting on
the back of the limousine. Yep.

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And so I don't know what he's
what he what he's doing. Is he

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through his narrative, he says,
I was on I was riding in the

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car on the foot footstep of the
old cars used to have, and I

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heard the shot and I turned around
to look right. So he's like,

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this is like brand new evidence confirming
that there were shots going on right now,

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now we have it somebody who says
they reacted to the shot going on

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right. Then he heard the second
shot go on, right, and he

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reacted to that shot going off also, he says. So he's we're saying

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in the films that nobody reacts to
the shots and nobody nobody can hear any

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shots, And he's refuting those two
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Okay, So that's the first thing
that has to be kind of a

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fourth here. And then he somehow
is acting as if he was like right

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there and saw the brains flying out. He says he saw the brains flying

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out, So he's now confirming that
the brains flew out right, which is

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again, so three points of most
important points that we try to make in

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our film, he is literally refuting
with the story and and admitting that he

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broke the law, several laws actually
in the crime of the century. He's

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willing to come forth and say that
I'm a lawbreaker. Although none of the

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news articles ever point this out,
not one yet has pointed out that this

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is, you know, destroying evidence
or not destroying manipulating evidence, and it

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should have been. You know,
I am absolutely sure that they are taught

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in the Secret Service academy that you're
not supposed to touch evidence in a murder.

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Well, that's not the only thing
that they messed up with on the

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whole investigation. The FBI in the
Secret Service both did reenactments of the JFK

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assassination, and during one of those
reenactments they literally use the gun that was

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Oswald's Carcano rifle. They used the
rifle that was supposedly used in the murder

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of JFK for the reenactment. What
kind of nonsense is that you're going to

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use the actual supposed murder weapon that's
evidence for your reenactment. Why would you

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ever do that? Makes absolutely zero
sense. And this whole thing with the

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bullet actually kind of does enforce our
the statements and the things that we talk

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about in jfk X, solving the
Crime of the Century, and the fact

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that there wasn't any gunshots fired that
day, right, we will talk about

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that in the film. And if
he planted this bullet, it's a pristine

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bullet, right, And I don't
know. I think people realize how bullets

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work. There's a there's a shell
casing around a bullet, and then when

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the bullets fired, the bullet comes
out of the shell casing. But the

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shell casing was around the bullet that
was found in on the stretcher, Like,

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how can you say that that was
a fired bullet? And Paul Landis

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is now saying that it was.
He found it lodged I think in the

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backseat of the limousine. That's what
it says in that article. But there's

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another article that I read that stated
that he said that he thought that the

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shots weren't gun shots, that they
were firecrackers. Yes, now that is

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that is also about several witnesses say
that they thought somebody had lit firecrackers behind

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the grassy knoll, and I think
it's actually somebody did. I think it

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was all part of the sky op
that they had somebody planted back there who

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has you know, little small black
cats or something, and just let them

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off right at the state, right
at the moment, just to cause more

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confusion and everything. But when I
heard the audio of that, the warr

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commission said three shots ron it.
I could say that there could have been

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some firecrackers going off in the background, you know, I really could,

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but not gunshots, not nothing piercing
like that, right, Like, so

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I don't know, but I know
that, you know, here's the thing.

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The Secret Services in on it.
We show it in the film.

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So the Secret Service, how's as
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here, and so they're taking action
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the enough disinformation is thrown out there
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the film. And it's not going
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of time. It already is.
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And I would look for some more
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I would look, you know,
he's eighty eight year old witnesses.

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It's like the like giving money to
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way of how how old are they? You know what I mean,

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It's like, holy crap, you
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fifty. And so, you know, bringing out this old guy, nobody's

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gonna arrest him, and nobody's gonna
criticize him. They'll fact. Nobody's bringing

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out the fact that he altered evidence
in the greatest crime ever. Nobody's even

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bringing it up. So they're giving
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one of the reasons I wanted to
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him to have a free ride.
We need to bring these questions up.

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And we can't just let this guy
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of statements unchallenged, especially when it's
absolutely a fact that he broke a whole

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bunch of laws and really messed up
the investigation, rankly, really messed it

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up. So yeah, yeah,
we show in JFKX Solving the Crime of

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the Century how screwed up the investigation
already was with the alterations from there's a

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Brooder film, the missing frames for
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No one was ever made to come
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be how they got there. And
then with the it's like it's just another

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thing thrown in there with all of
the another muddying of the waters, more

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muddying of the waters, and to
throw people off of what we what I

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think that we discuss in our film, right, and I think it's people

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really need to realize that conspiracy whenever
conspiracy theorists discover that they're a part of

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a conspiracy theory, to use conspiracy
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that's really what's happening here. And
this is the inception of the conspiracy theory.

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And when you go back and you
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and everyone is wrong about everything,
all the creations of all the theories that

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they've come up with. Just like
sixty years later, we're just now finding

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out supposedly that the magic bullet really
wasn't a magic bullet. But that's what

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the Warren Commission used. They used
as a Bruder film which was altered as

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their timeline of events to figure out
what happened. And now they're using a

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planted, fake magic bullet that a
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JFK. How more convoluted and nonsensical
can you get? No wonder? Conspiracy

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theories are so easily propagated and take
on a life of their own, and

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they just get compounded upon a time
after time after time, a new generation

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of people come along, and then
they just compound all of their theories on

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top of old existing, pre existing
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none of it's right. And and
you know, the incongruities that we point

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out in the film, like the
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Brooder film, right, So that's
what's got them worried, is those the

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incongruities that we keep pointing out.
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and create another round of conspiracy theories, is that's what this is going to

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do? Now, create another boring
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another shooter somewhere, you know,
the dal text building or somewhere right,

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Well, I mean, you see, this is a Brooder film. Does

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Kennedy expose his back to anybody?
No? No, his back is not

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exposed exactly, and where did in
the autopsy doesn't say that Kennedy has a

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wound to the back because I'm pretty
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what's he talking about? You know, the evidence doesn't show that. The

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evidence of the War Commission doesn't talk
about a wound to the back. There's

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a wound to the neck and a
wound to the head. That's what they

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said, right, That's exactly what
you see in the autopsy pictures. You

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see a wound to the neck and
a wound to the head. In the

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Bruder film you see no wound to
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side of the head. So all
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and I think they had to send
the send the damage control squad out

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as fast as they could when I
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Kubrick out Apollo in two thousand and
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eleven. I remember they put out
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the The Great Desolation or something,
right, Brian Eno wrote the music,

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and you know, and it's a
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and without showing in that documentary,
they hardly showed any film of the astronauts

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on the moon, because if they
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saying, right, So they just
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them on the moon. So it
was just a disinformation campaign. And that's

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what this is going to be.
And I'm going to say that we're going

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to see at least two more documentaries
that are going to be disguised as documentaries

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but are really going to be veiled
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I don't really think that's going to
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leading the community on. It's exactly
like what you said. It's something to

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keep everybody on the hook about because
unfortunately, the conspiracy community and the truth

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or community has become an industry.
It's an industry. It's a way to

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make money. It's very little truth
and evidence or a prove backs up any

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of this stuff, you know,
and it just keeps getting pushed out there.

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It's exactly like the UFO community in
ufology. It's they keep reverting back

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to a singular event like Roswell,
like that's their go to all the time,

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every single time it's it's Roswell.
And it's the exact same thing with

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the JFK assassin issue. Now they're
they're reverting back, They're they're changing their

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story, they're switching it up just
a little bit, just to keep all

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the conspiracy theories going because I believe
that we literally legitimately solved it. And

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what's in that movie JFKX Solving the
Crime of the Century is the reason why

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the JFK files are never going to
be released. They're never going to release

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them. That's what was in those
files. And I think that also that

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was a way during the Boston bombing
as well to destroy some of the evidence

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of that at the Jfkmeomorial Library into
that let's go into that. Tell us,

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what are you talking about. So
during the Boston Marathon bombing, a

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few people they only they don't realize
that there was a third bomb that went

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off. Two apparently went off at
the bust of marathon race, but there

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was a third bomb that went off. A little, very little well known

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event that happened. But you can
google it and you can look at bombing

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at JFK Memorial Library and you'll see. And they tried to kind of cover

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it up by saying that it was
a it was just a fire. But

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there's a police chief that made a
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that there was another bomb that went
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So that there's another bomb, a
third bomb that went off at JFK Memorial

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Library at the archives department. The
fact that we don't know about this,

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are you kidding? The same day
as the Boston marathon bombings the JFK and

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where the library is bombed and we
don't know about that, that should be

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bigger news all but well, I
guess people died at the marathon, but

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but still that should be big news
and it's not. So there must very

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little information is on that as well. It's very difficult to find information.

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But it absolutely did happen, and
it is a factual information. And why

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would they do that. Why would
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Memorial Library unless they were trying to
get rid of some evidence, Unless there

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was some kind of mind blowing evidence
that was in the JFK Memorial Library.

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Someone used to go through there and
go through those documents that are still left

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to see what's missing, to try
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to try and figure it out.
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to get rid of evidence that could
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they realize that and the only way
that they could do it was blow it

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up and bomb it. And they
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in order to take out the JFK
Memorial Library. Man, I'll tell you

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what, I know a lot about
the Boston Marathon bombing. Dave McGowan of

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the Laurel Canyon Fame wrote an incredible
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And what he did was he took
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day. You know, there was
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like forty photographs from d two different
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indexing them. And there's there's something
so wrong with the Boston bombing that I

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can't even begin to describe it.
But I can't because I'll get kicked off

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YouTube, so I'm not so anyway, we should ask him if he knows

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about the I'm sure he would have
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World Library if he's researched it enough
and looked into it. I can't remember

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if he talked about that in his
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again. He would not be the
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important. But I never thought about
it until you brought it up. I

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mean, I really never thought about
the angle. But then again, you

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know what we did in jfk X
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weird nuggets that no one had ever
brought up, like the fact that they

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exhumed the body in nineteen sixty seven, Like the fact that none of the

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CBS, ABC and NBC did not
send camera people although they did two d

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lee Plaza that day. Those are
the kind of nagg thing I think that

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really make the film so effective.
And then, of course, you know

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being you know, showing audiences a
four K high quality version of There's a

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Brooder film where you can clearly see
that there's no brains splattered on the back

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of everybody's drunk. Collie says,
there was brains splattered all over the back.

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He didn't even turn his head to
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doesn't turn back to see what's on
the hood of the car. He

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dives under the seat as soon as
everything starts. So if you remember when

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we were making the film and I
was I called you and I was like,

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I'm watching this is a Brooder film
right now, and I don't see

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Connolly or his wife. I didn't
realize that until I looked at it in

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slow motion. There as soon as
JFK's head explodes, they're nowhere to be

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seen. They're just gone. They're
they're gone, They're not even there,

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they're not looking anywhere. They're ducked
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that was really interesting because I was
going through because I suctioned out that little

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part of the video to put it
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film, and I call it Jay. I'm like, Connolly and his wife

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aren't in this footage at all,
and you're raced over. You're like,

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no, they're there, they're just
ducked down anything, just donning the floor.

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Yeah, probably Connolly is laying on
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you see, because he's got to
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No, just kidding, So yeah, And I think that's what makes the

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film so powerful, is that all
of the little nuggets that we stick together,

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string together one after another of unknown
things that people just never talk about

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like the fact that nobody reacts to
guns going off, and the fact that

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you know so many in the tip
it, no one ever brings up tipp

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it. You know, we do, right, And so there's that.

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I think that's what makes the film
not only really powerful as as a film,

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but I think also even today,
sixty years later, they have to

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preserve the BS story. And that's
what this is here. This is the

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first their first salvo in attempting to
do a limited hang out by saying the

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Secret Service actually did something wrong,
something unlawful that day. Inexplicably too.

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By the way, why would he
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is his fingerprints on the on the
bullet, Did he wear glove, did

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he put it in a kerchief around
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like all this does is raise one
hundred other questions about everything, right,

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And the fact of the matter is
is that bullet had been fired, probably

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from the carcano they found on the
sixth floor, But it was fired into

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like a mattress or something that soft
stop it, not into hard bone because

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it would be cracked, there would
be chips off of it. Anybody's ever

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hunted. But know that so they
they just you know, he planted it.

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I don't know if he was working
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working for the people, but I
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what was really going on that day. Rankly. Yeah, I think so

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too. Within the fact of not
telling anybody that you did it, Why

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would you not tell your superiors or
somebody else that was running the investigation that

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you found the bullet in the limousine
and that you put it on the stretcher,

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and and who You're trying to cause
more confusion and muddy the waters even

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more than you would do that.
Right then, after sixty years, then

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finally coming out and seeing that,
oh yeah, I to put that bullet

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on the stretcher, and that's what
the Warren Commission is. And everyone's talking

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about this magic bullet when there wasn't
any magic bullet. It makes absolutely no

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sense. Why would you do that. You're a secret Service agent, You're

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like one of the agents in the
government President's wife. I mean, you

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were a highly trusted guy, and
this is what you would do. It's

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outrageous. It really is outrageous that
nobody's calling him forth on any of this,

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and that's The main reason I want
you to come on because I wanted

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somebody to rage against the whole idea
that this guy can be allowed to say

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he did this. I mean it, it's outrageous. But he's saying and

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I mean, there's no explanation.
And like I said before, we you

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and I watched as the Brewer film, probably more than anybody on earth at

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this stage. And I can tell
you what. He never exposes his back

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until he rolls over at the very
end. That's the only time that Kennedy

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exposes his back, all right,
and that only for a second because he's

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down underneath where you couldn't get him
with a gun anywhere that you were.

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So, and I guarantee you have
gone through all of the autopsy stuff.

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There is no mention of a wound
to the back. There's a wound to

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00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:39.320
the neck and a wound to the
head. And so even the autopsy disagrees

405
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:45.920
with this guy. So and also, if you just like that guy that's

406
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:51.039
doing the UFO stuff right now,
what's his name, Bruce or whatever?

407
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.119
Yeah, okay, so if you
follow, if you actually listen to that

408
00:35:54.159 --> 00:36:01.360
guy and doing an content analysis of
the languaging that he is using he's not

409
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:07.679
saying anything, all right, he's
not actually saying anything. The same thing

410
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.800
with this guy. Oh, the
bullet must have been lodged in his back

411
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:14.960
and it fell out. Well did
you see the bullet lodged in his back?

412
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.360
Or he was making an assumption here? And since there's no wound to

413
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:25.719
the back in the autopsy report,
how do you reconcile that? You know?

414
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.880
And so I think that this guy
needs to be questioned a lot more

415
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:36.360
through than he has been so far. Yeah, I think he needs to

416
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.639
be questioned. I think he needs
to be prosecuted. But just like you

417
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:45.599
mentioned with David Grush, people aren't
asking David Rush the hard questions. They're

418
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:52.119
not asking him for proof and evidence
for his claims that he's made about non

419
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:59.119
human biologics and non human craft.
Right, people aren't giving him the heat

420
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:02.639
that he needs. I mean,
he is literally in front of Congress telling

421
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:12.440
people that the government has non biologica
that means bodies that they've recovered from a

422
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.039
crash retrieval. Well, where's the
proof and the evidence to back up those

423
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.079
claims? Like, how are you
going to sit in front of Congress and

424
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.960
tell them a bunch of wacka doo
nonsense stories that have been regurgitated in the

425
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:31.639
community for decades now that we're inevitably
made up by Richard Doughty, freaking disinformationalists

426
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:37.320
from the Mirage, a man that
was going around giving disinformation to UFO contacts

427
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.800
in the UFO community in the seventies
and the eighties. You know, it's

428
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:46.079
a regurgitation of a story that has
compounded upon it. Then it gets to

429
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:52.440
be accepted truth in mythology within the
community, and everybody that talks about these

430
00:37:52.440 --> 00:38:00.119
topics has been guilty of this.
They're they're talking about regurgitated information over and

431
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:06.559
over and that wasn't proven back when
it was originally talked about it. Oh

432
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:14.239
yeah, I mean there's like,
uh, and the conspiracy community is doubling

433
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:20.400
down. I'm sure you've noticed on
all their their on all their conspiracy things,

434
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.360
and that's fine, but uh,
we're right. I'm sorry, But

435
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.559
the film is right, and the
fact that there's going to be all this

436
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.639
flat coming out trying to disprove it
is just more proof than it's right.

437
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.639
So you know, years will go
by and then it'll be accepted and that's

438
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.119
the way it goes. But This
guy did a pretty good job of a

439
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.679
counter intelligence I got to give him
credit. It was actually a pretty good

440
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:54.199
salvo. It's completely meaningless and it's
not gonna work, but I think it's

441
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:58.440
the best thing could come up with. I really do. And I think

442
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:05.199
he Isn't he the last remaining Secret
Service probably that time, Yeah, probably

443
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.840
twenty eight, so he had to
be one of the younger ones. Yeah.

444
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:14.840
You know, the fact that he
had really close ties to Jackie I

445
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:20.480
find to be quite telling actually,
because you would want, you know,

446
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.119
the guys that you're closest to.
So Clint Hill and he were the two

447
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:30.960
closest Jackie's secret Service agents, right, And they were both right there.

448
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.360
In other words, they were at
the front of the car, the Secret

449
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:39.199
Service car, following JFK's car,
right, So they were the front witnesses,

450
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:45.760
these two guys who were Jackie's pretty
much her right hand secret service agents.

451
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.880
Right. So yeah, you can
take that with grain as salt.

452
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:55.760
But I mean, if any of
the government theorists and the conspiracy theorists want

453
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:59.800
to come at us about this film, tell us what's on the side of

454
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.679
JFK's face. Yeah, tell us
what that is? What is that no

455
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:08.159
one's been able to come up with
a good explanation of what that is.

456
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.719
And I was back and forth a
lot with making this film. I was

457
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.320
calling Jay like every day. I
was like, Jay, I don't know.

458
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.280
You know, I'm like, it
might have been in the CIA,

459
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.239
it might have been the mob,
because I'm doing all the research for it,

460
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.679
and I'm realizing that the Kennedy brothers
were legitimately going after the mob like

461
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:31.239
hardcore. They were literally trying to
take down organized crime, governmental organized crime.

462
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.519
And I was like, maybe it
was the mob. Maybe they really

463
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.480
did kill him. And then once
I got farther into the film, and

464
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:44.920
then I'm really closely looking at this
A Brooder film, the highest definition version

465
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.880
of the A Brewder film ever made
that's in our film. I seen it

466
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:54.880
and I'm like, wow, this
really was a huge fabrication. And I

467
00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:00.280
was back and forth on it just
as well and jaking a test. But

468
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.800
once you see the footage and what
we're presenting, there's really no way around

469
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:13.000
it, Like what can you come
up with to disprove what we're showing you

470
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.159
as evidence in the film. I
mean, this would be the perfect way

471
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:21.079
to do it, is to bring
a secret service agent from sixty years ago.

472
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.960
That's like eighty three, eighty four, eighty five years old, talk

473
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:28.559
about eighty eight. It was even
older, eighty eight years old to talk

474
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:35.079
about that he planted a magic bullet, which then, just what we were

475
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:40.760
doing is we wanted to come in
and demolish all of the conspiracy theories that

476
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.760
were surrounding the JFK assassination and actually
solved the crime of the century. And

477
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.559
I believe that we did. But
now they threw in this new piece of

478
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:54.559
evidence that makes it seem like they
are then solving the crime of the century

479
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.440
in a way, right, because
it has to make everyone go back in

480
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:06.880
and let's start all over again when
we already did it. We already did

481
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.760
it. That's exactly right. And
that's why I know that this is a

482
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:15.800
uh some kind of sciop because of
the way that the guy structures everything,

483
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:22.400
and it's like it's like a counter
not a very good counter, but a

484
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.119
counter to our felm An attempt,
like a counter punch, and it's a

485
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.079
very weak counter punch, and it
doesn't make any sense, but it was

486
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:35.480
so, yeah, hey, they
did it, So how could they even

487
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.480
let him come in How could they
even let him come out with that.

488
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.320
That's the thing that's boffling me,
Like, how can a secret service a

489
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.599
drink come out and admit to a
crime? Like you're admitting to a crime

490
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:53.320
right there. I'm sure a statue
of limitations the assassination of the President of

491
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:58.440
the United States, so he can
be prosecuted. He should be. Actually,

492
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.519
yeah, that's tampering with evidence.
That's tampering with an active investigation and

493
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:09.599
active crime scene. Like those are
huge charges. Oh man, he altered

494
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:16.360
history, literally altered history. I
want to ask you another question. Give

495
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:23.440
us a list of names and times
we rough, times that you told other

496
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:28.880
people this. I want to hear
other witnesses come forth and say, yo,

497
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.960
yeah, Paul told me that.
Oh yeah, right, because why

498
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:37.360
did you say something? Then these
witnesses that he's told, So are you

499
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.719
telling me that you didn't tell your
wife or your best friend or anything for

500
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.719
sixty years and he just suddenly went
to the New York Times and told them

501
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:52.559
and they decided to run with it. And Nope, not in the midst

502
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.199
of the release of our film.
Nope, nope, nope, nope,

503
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:00.920
nope, nope, nope nope.
Then also the limousine being destroyed soon after

504
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:07.320
the assassination. Why would they do
that? That's like, that's prime evidence.

505
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.719
And as we found out after we
made the film, the limousine that's

506
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:20.079
at the gerald Ford Museum in Michigan
that they are saying is the Kennedy limousine

507
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.199
isn't. It's a four seater,
it's not a sixth seater. So I

508
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:28.880
don't know what that is. I
probably a backup limo that they had and

509
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:30.960
they put it in the museum,
But it's not the same limo. It's

510
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:37.559
closed. It's Cadillac, but house
only has four seats. And also I

511
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.159
don't think that the time of the
Time Life magazine pictures of the limousine isn't

512
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.840
the same limousine either, right right, Yeah, the picture of that time

513
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:49.880
one week after the Kennedy assassination,
Time Life had a big, huge photograph

514
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.800
of the Jackie's roses and the blood
on the back seat of the limousine.

515
00:44:54.039 --> 00:45:00.840
But it's a four seater the limousine
in Time Life magazine, you know.

516
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.760
And those guys should be arrested for
tampering with the evidence too, as we're

517
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.679
proving the film they altered. There
was a Brooder film. It removed at

518
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:20.159
least four frames, so man,
so much tampering with evidence has been uncovered.

519
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:28.000
It's amazing, and it's just to
serve to create more to the convolute

520
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.480
the story even more. And then
you think, oh, well, why

521
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:37.760
would they do that, Why would
they intentionally create why would they intentionally muddy

522
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:43.920
the waters? Right? And they
think it's for they don't. Yeah,

523
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.960
they don't have a choice. They
have to keep the whole thing going,

524
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.760
and you're going to see more of
it. I would. I'm gonna bet

525
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:59.960
you also that uh, nasty stuff
is going to start coming out about Aristotle

526
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:07.199
Anassis. You watch I say that, because once you go down this whole

527
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:15.840
thing what we're saying in JFK X
solving the commissentary, Aristotle Nassis becomes a

528
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.960
much more important character, all right
than he was before than just some rich

529
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:25.360
guy who married Jackie. He now
becomes something more important to the narrative.

530
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.199
And it's important to know that he
was one of the major contributors to the

531
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:36.239
Kennedy campaign in nineteen sixty by the
way, was Aristotle and gave millions to

532
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:40.239
JFK to run for president. And
of course he was the one that sheltered

533
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:52.840
Jackie afterwards. And you know,
I've talked to several people from Greece who

534
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:58.840
are like my age, and they
said that they many times we talked to

535
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.800
people who would go to Scorpios Island
to work maids and carpenters or whatever,

536
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:10.679
and they would see two guys in
wheelchairs and one of them looked just like

537
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.480
JFK. And if he did have
he did have Addison's disease, he probably

538
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:22.199
would have been relegated to a wheelchair
eventually. So you know, those are

539
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:27.159
all speculations. But writer, it's
been really good having you on. I

540
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.199
wanted to get this out because he
says nagging at me, and I'm so

541
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:35.519
glad I have this platform because more
of the stuff's going to come out.

542
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.320
So I'm going to be bringing you
on every time they do a counter insurgency.

543
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:43.480
We're going to come back on,
and I expect a bunch more,

544
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:47.639
especially as things heat up in the
sixtieth anniversary approaches. Here we're after Labor

545
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:51.760
Day, so now this is going
to be one of the major topics of

546
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.599
conversation for the next two and a
half three months, and I want to

547
00:47:54.599 --> 00:48:01.679
make sure that our voice is one
of those taught voices and so get prepared

548
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:08.440
for battle. I guess yeah.
I mean it's a he committed an a

549
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:15.239
tregious crime. He tampered with evidence, he tampered with an active crime scene

550
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.199
and didn't tell anybody about it.
That is that he should be prosecuted.

551
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:23.719
There's no other way around it.
But they're not going to because you said

552
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.159
he was eighty eight years old.
They're not going to prosecute an eighty eight

553
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.960
year old man, especially when he
already has a book deal already ready and

554
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.960
has probably the book was written by
AI or written by the intelligence community.

555
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.519
Put out some more discs and misinformation
surrounding surrounding the assassination. But I really

556
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:45.239
implored people just to watch the movie. It's going to be on twenty one

557
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:50.519
different platforms here, so it's going
to be on two b I believe here

558
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:57.239
soon and on YouTube YouTube with ads
to be of course has ads, so

559
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:01.800
three though, and it's international on
those platform to me is Canada, Mexico,

560
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:09.880
Australia, and the United States.
YouTube with ads is international, so

561
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:13.960
you'll be able to watch it there. It's on Amazon Prime, but it's

562
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:20.000
going to be on Apple Television.
She's I'm gonna put a list out of

563
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:24.119
it. But weirdly enough, film
Hub, our distributor, has gone down

564
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:28.360
for the next two weeks. I'm
not sure what's going on there, so

565
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:30.840
I can't even give you the list
because I can't even check my account.

566
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:36.079
So it's like film Hub, what
you're supposed to do is you write the

567
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:40.000
software first, and then you do
it at three in the morning. Okay,

568
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:45.159
you don't put the software up and
do testing while we're sitting around wanting

569
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:50.039
to look at how things are going. So am a little disappointed in film

570
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:53.880
Hub right now. But I think
we crashed the servers there for a minute

571
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:58.440
because there were several people that were
hitting me up and telling me they couldn't

572
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:02.960
access the film was first release.
I think that they weren't expecting as many

573
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.920
people to purchase it and rent it
as uh as we had. And that's

574
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:13.760
uh, that's amazing because it tells
you how great the film wasn't And you

575
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.000
know, right now you can find
it on Amazon four dollar ninety nine to

576
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:21.760
rant and four ninety nine to purchase, and I highly recommend doing that because

577
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.079
you know, we're just doing this
out of our own pocket. We don't

578
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:29.760
have any big production company behind us
or backing us. And it's important to

579
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:35.960
support independent filmmakers because that's the direction
that things are going in Hollywood is collapsing

580
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:38.679
right now. Netflix hasn't made any
money. I don't think Netflix has ever

581
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:44.119
made any money. They've They've been
in debt this entire time. It's unsustainable.

582
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.039
These streaming services are completely unsustainable,
and it's going to switch at some

583
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:53.280
point and it's going to go to
Uh, independent filmmakers. I absolutely one

584
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:58.159
percent beliefs. So thank you for
the people that has supported so far and

585
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.440
watched the movie and bought the movie
or rented the movi. I you really

586
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:05.360
appreciate it. Just be on the
lookout because we got to more films that

587
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.639
we're going to be in the process
of shooting here very soon, and uh

588
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:13.559
you know, we're gonna need your
guys to support on that too, because

589
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:16.199
this is how it's done. It's
a it's a grassroots word of mouth thing.

590
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:21.199
And if you can't purchase it or
you can't rent it, send it

591
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.599
to your friends, send it to
your family members, put it in Facebook

592
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:29.320
groups, just share it on on
social media anywhere and everywhere, because I

593
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.440
guarantee someone will be interested in it, and uh, thanks so much Jay

594
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.760
for having me on. And anytime
this kind of stuff happens, I think

595
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:42.159
it's important that and call it out. Yeah, we have to, that's

596
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:46.800
that's one of the main reasons I
started the channel was to call out on

597
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:52.039
personal attacks, you know, or
on my work, right, because you

598
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:53.840
know, we're just happening all the
time, and I needed to have a

599
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:59.280
platform that made people who are going
to come after me pause for a moment

600
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:07.039
because my platform is usually you know, people by very active people. Right.

601
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.519
So anyway, thanks writer, And
the film is jfk X Solving the

602
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:16.440
Crime of the Century. You know, Amazon, Prime and twenty one different

603
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:22.239
platforms. It's everywhere, literally everywhere, and please go watch it, and

604
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:28.880
please get your friends to watch it. Please start discussion groups. And we

605
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:34.599
have to counter balance the things that
they're doing because you know, they get

606
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the New York Times to do their
interview, they get big publishing company to

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do their their books. We can't
compete with that. So writers, right,

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you know, we're small but strong
and mighty, and we shall defeat

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the beast eventually. All right,
I'm watching see you

